#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Byron Allen slaps McDonald's w/ $10B suit; 3rd Reconstruction Act; George Floyd Act not ready
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All right, folks, today in a courtroom,
Byron Allen filed a $10 billion lawsuit against McDonald's,
alleging they have discriminated against his company, Entertainment Studios.
This is what the press release states that he issued today. Byron Allen's Allen Media Group, Division Entertainment Studios,
and Weather Group, LLC,
filed a lawsuit on May 20, 2021
against McDonald's Corporation
seeking $10 billion in damages
for racial discrimination
and contracting in violation
of federal and state law.
According to the lawsuit,
McDonald's intentionally discriminated
against Entertainment Studios
and Weather Group
through a pattern of racial stereotyping
and refusals to contract.
Entertainment Studios,
a media company owned by African-American entrepreneur Byron Allen, owns and operates 12 high-definition TV networks that are carried by over 60 multi-channel video programming
distributors, including Comcast, AT&T, U-verse, Charter Spectrum, Dish Network, DirecTV, AT&T Now,
and Verizon Files. These networks feature lifestyle content with general audience appeal
and are widely distributed to over 180 million cumulative subscribers in all 50 states.
In 2018, Allen acquired Weather Group, which owns and operates the award-winning cable news network,
The Weather Channel, and the streaming service Local Now.
McDonald's is the world's largest, world's leading global food service retailer with over 39,000 locations
that generate over $100 billion in annual revenue.
African-Americans represent approximately 40% of McDonald's U.S. sales,
with McDonald's taking billions of dollars each year
from African-American consumers.
But of its approximately $1.6 billion
annual television advertising budget,
McDonald's spends less than approximately
$5 million each year,
listen to me, each year on African-American-owned media. And it has refused
to advertise on entertainment studios networks or the Weather Channel since Allen acquired the
network in 2018. Per the lawsuit, the McDonald's president and CEO, Chris Kempczynski, makes
approximately $11 million per year,
which is more than double what McDonald's spends per year
on all of black-owned media combined.
The lawsuit alleges that McDonald's refusal to contract
is a result of racial stereotyping
through McDonald's tiered advertising structure
that differentiates on the basis of race.
The primary advertising tier for McDonald's is referred to as general market, and it constitutes
the vast majority of McDonald's advertising budget.
McDonald's, however, created a separate African American tier with a much smaller budget and
less favorable pricing in other terms.
McDonald's contracts with a separate ad agency, Burrell Communications, for this African American
tier, thereby creating separate and unequal tracks
for black-owned media companies to earn advertising revenue.
McDonald's has created a discriminatory environment
that is separate but not equal.
According to the lawsuit,
McDonald's relegated entertainment studios
to the less favorable African-American tier,
even though the companies own and operate TV networks
that have general market appeal and do not specifically target African-American tier, even though the companies own and operate TV networks that have general market appeal
and do not specifically target African-American audiences.
McDonald's does so because the companies are owned
by Allen and African-American.
Through this stereotyping,
McDonald's prevented entertainment studios
and with Weather Group from accessing
McDonald's general market advertising budget
and deprive the companies of advertising revenue
that otherwise would have been paid if McDonald'srive the companies of advertising revenue that otherwise would have
been paid if McDonald's treated the companies the same as similarly situated white-owned companies.
Now, Byron sent this out. This is the quote that he used. This is about economic inclusion
of African-American-owned businesses in the U.S. economy. Says Byron Allen, founder,
chairman, and CEO of Allen Media Group, McDonald's takes billions from African-American consumers and gives almost nothing back.
The biggest trade deficit in America is the trade deficit between white corporate America and black America.
And McDonald's is guilty of perpetuating this disparity.
The economic exclusion must stop immediately. Now, folks, today, today, this morning, McDonald's released
a made a release, the press released stating what they were going to be spending or increasing their
spend with black owned media. I'm going to pull it up in just one second. And what they did was
in this particular statement, they announced that they are going to be.
Give me one second. I'm going to pull this up right here. Just give me one second here.
I want to show you guys this. This is going to be a what I'm showing you is actually from is actually from AdAge. So AdAge posted this particular story. It posted this particular
story today. And this is what it says. McDonald's will more than double ad spend with diverse-owned
companies. Then it says in the article, McDonald's is promising to more than double its U.S. investment
in diverse-owned media companies, production shops, and content creators by 2024.
Over the next four years, it will increase its U.S. advertising spending with platforms owned by Black,
Hispanic, Asian American, female, and LGBTQ people from 4% to 10%.
Then, actually, the article goes on to say that they actually were going to be spending,
there's a press release that was sent out, they're going to be spending their resources, they're going to be going
from, and let me just find that because I want to show you what McDonald's sent out.
What they sent out was that they were going to be also increasing their black spin from
two to five percent. Now, why does all of this matter? increasing their black spin from 2% to 5%.
Now, why does all of this matter?
Now, y'all know, you've been watching this show,
you've been seeing us talk about these particular issues.
Yeah, this is the press release that McDonald's sent out today.
In this press release, you see where it says they will increase their spending from 2% to 5% of national advertising spend over the next three years.
Okay.
Now, allow me to, first of all, let me read this quote here.
We've been making serious commitments that are guided by our values,
and with this latest move, we're taking action to advance diverse-owned companies across the marketing supply chain, said Morgan Flatley, Chief Marketing and Digital Customer Experience Officer at
McDonald's USA. We're using our resources to support these platforms and businesses,
which keep the brand at the center of culture while creating deeper relationships with our
diverse customers, crew, and employees. Now, what Byron Allen also published was an open letter
that, if y'all have the open letter, go ahead and pull that up, please.
That was an open letter that he also published that was signed by several of us.
I am one of the signatories on that particular letter.
And what that letter stated, it was speaking to the issue of lack of a spin with African-Americans and why it is important now
Let me go ahead and pull this up so I can like literally folks. This just came down
That the lawsuit just came down and so so forgive me for being slightly
Out of breath here, but I want to pull this up so I can show you. So the signatories on this letter,
Byron Allen, also Todd Brown, Butch Graves with Black Enterprise, Munson Steed with Rolling Out,
and also Junior Bridgman, of course, who is a Coca-Cola bottler who also owns Ebony Media. He bought Ebony Media. Now, in this particular letter
that we all agreed to sign, this is what Byron Allen states in here. Again, he says that
McDonald's has spent approximately $17 billion in advertising promotion and very little went
to black-owned media, not to be confused with black-targeted media. Simultaneously, as this
is occurring, he wrote a letter to the CEO.
He said your your own personal compensation package
for 2020 total just under 11 million, more than double
the approximate five million
that McDonald's spent with all of black owned media
combined last year. This is indefensible.
Now, this is what he also says.
He says we're not. He said point blank.
He said that says in here that McDonald's
as a racist and very toxic culture.
He said, to be clear, this concerns black-owned media
and not minority-owned media.
Because minority includes white women
and large corporations like McDonald's
often hide behind and tout their minority diversity records
while continuing not to do business
with black-owned media companies. Now, let me speak to this. Here's the argument that we have been making
for quite some time. African-Americans are representing a significant market share
of various companies. McDonald's, General Motors, Toyota, Target, and we can go on
and on and on. Yet when you start asking how much of that money is coming back to black-owned
businesses, it's not even remotely the same. In fact, what we're seeing is that there's a wide
disparity. About $170 billion is being spent every single year
on advertising in the United States.
Prior to our campaign,
black-owned media has been getting 1%.
You heard me last week talk about the Fors Marsh Group.
They receive a significant number
of federal contracts for advertising
How much of that is going to African Americans well according to a 2018 study asked for by Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton
The federal government over five years spent five billion dollars
black media got
51 million out of the 5 billion. Let me repeat that.
Black-owned media got 51 million out of the 5 billion.
That's on a federal level.
McDonald's announced they're going to go from 2% to 5%. That means that all this period, African-American,
black-owned media had only been getting 2%.
According to Byron Allen's lawsuit,
African-Americans represent 40%
of
McDonald's customers.
2%.
40%.
Now, I know for a fact
that there have been black executives
at McDonald's
and black McDonald's franchisees
who have been pushing
the company to do more.
For the last two years, I keynoted
the National Black McDonald Operators,
Owners and Operators Conference the last two years.
I spoke about economic apartheid and economic inclusion
and how these companies must do better.
So the lawsuit from Byron Allen should not be a surprise
when we start talking about the lack of inclusion.
There are some of you who may be watching,
and you might be saying,
okay, Roland, I don't really understand,
like, really, what's the big deal?
Folks, this is why we're broke.
Economic apartheid is being practiced in America.
If black-owned companies are not getting advertising dollars,
are not getting legal dollars, bond dollars, accounting firms,
engineering firms, architecture and design firms.
I mean, I can go on and on and on.
I'm not talking about companies hiring a couple of black consultants and paying them 60, 80 or a hundred thousand dollars.
I'm talking about what happens when we're not getting 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 million dollars.
So let me just give you another example so you can understand the difference that this makes. So let's say we,
let's say we, let's say we here at Roland Martin Unfiltered, let's say we, all of a sudden,
let's say we, all of a sudden, go from where we are now and we, all of a sudden, we, let's just say, go to $25 million a year.
Okay?
I want you to think about this.
Let's say we go from $2 million a year
to $25 million a year.
Let's say I decide to pay a reporter $100,000.
Let's say I decide to pay a reporter $100,000. Let's say I decide to hire 20 reporters at $100,000 each.
That's $2 million.
Okay?
So let's say I decide to hire five editors to supervise those 20 reporters at $150,000.
Then that comes out to $750,000.
Okay?
Which means
I could hire 25 staffers
and spend, you throw in benefits,
things along those lines.
Let's say I would spend
upwards of $4 million.
Let's just push it to $5 million. I got $23 million more. I'm left with $18 million.
That means we cannot spend money on advertising and marketing. That means we can actually hire
more producers. That means we can upgrade our technology. That means we can build capacity.
But when that doesn't happen,
when we don't get those dollars,
we can't do that.
If y'all want to understand
why black America is in the condition
that it is in right now,
it is because in the history of the United States,
economic apartheid has been practiced.
In the history of the United States,
we have been frozen out of every sector of this society.
And folks want to say, hey, but we're all equal.
The argument that I make is very simple.
If you are a company in America
and you are receiving significant dollars from black people,
money should be coming back to black people.
What do I want to see at McDonald's?
I don't want to see 200 black franchisees out of 39,000.
I want to see 13% of the franchisees at McDonald's are black.
So let me do the math.
You said that McDonald's has 39,000 franchisees.
I'm just going to go ahead and do this here.
I just think because I'm walking you all through this here for a very precise reason.
Because I think a lot of times we don't properly explain this.
And I think the customer needs to be fully aware.
You're the consumer.
You need to be fully aware of what I'm talking about here.
So let me see if I can go ahead and do this here.
I'm going to try to do it on my iPhone.
I just want you all to understand,
because I'm walking you through this,
because I think you need to be aware
of why the battle is going on.
Henry, can you see my calculator?
You should be able to see it in a second.
Okay, so 39,000.
There are 39,000 McDonald's franchisees.
Let's say 13% of the population is African American times.13.
That means that if you did the math and you said African Americans represent 13% of the population.
Of McDonald's 39,000 franchisees, we should have 5,070 franchisees.
Write down it's less than 300.
So let me go further.
Go back.
39,000 franchisees.
According to Byron Allen's lawsuit, African Americans represent 40% of McDonald's customers.
So we do 39,000 times 40%. That means, that means that if you took the number of customers,
African American customers at McDonald's,
and said that should be then represented by franchisees, customers, African-American customers at McDonald's,
and said that should be then represented by franchisees,
we should have 15,600 franchisees.
15,000 out of 39,000.
So to go from 2% to 5%, I'm not satisfied.
I appreciate the statement McDonald's put out.
I appreciate the comments that are in the press release.
But I'm sorry. I am unwilling to accept an increase from 2% to 5% over the next four years.
Like I said about General Motors, McDonald's,
do 5% now.
Why are we waiting?
We know the black companies that exist.
We know who they are.
We know where they work.
Folks, this right here,
this is a list of the people who signed the letter.
This is a list, and I read it.
I'm trying to get people.
See, we have been told, and I guarantee you,
Greg Carr will show you all the books behind him, how long
have we been told?
Wait. Wait.
Be patient.
Byron
Allen's company, black-owned.
Earl Butch Graves Jr.,
black enterprise, black-owned.
New Vision Media, black-owned.
Munson Steeds, CEO of Rolling Out, black-owned.
Todd Brown's Launch Urban Edge Networks, HBCU League Pass, black-owned. Munson Steeds, CEO of Rolling Out, black-owned. Todd Brown's Launch Urban Edge Networks,
HBCU League Pass, black-owned.
Ebony Media, Junior Bridgman, black-owned.
Blavity, black-owned.
I could go down the line of black-owned media companies
that exist right now.
So the question is, why are these companies saying
we've got to wait till 2025 to reach 5%?
People say, be patient.
We have been since 1619.
We've been patient since 1865.
We've been patient since 1865. We've been patient since 1877.
We've been patient since 1954.
We've been patient since 1960.
Patient since 1968.
African Americans will never, ever...
I need everybody listening to me because I need you to understand what I am saying.
We are no longer interested in talking about economic freedom.
We are interested in practicing it.
We're not interested in press releases.
We are interested in direct deposits.
We are not interested in talking about
how do we get to that gold at the end of a rainbow.
We're talking about depositing it.
This generation is simply trying to fix this for the next generation.
We're in the third reconstruction.
We're gonna talk about that in a second.
We're in the third reconstruction.
The first one failed because it didn't address the money.
The second one was good, but it didn't address the money.
We are no longer interested in just talking
about voting rights and mass incarceration
and criminal justice reform and health equities and education because folks this is america
and if you want to understand america you must deal with the money. And if we, as black consumers, are spending it,
we, as black owners, should be receiving it.
My panel, Rishi Colbert, Black Women Views,
Dr. Greg Carr, Chairman, Department of Afro-American Studies
at Howard University.
Also, Mustafa Santanteaga Ali,
Ph.D., former Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice
at the EPA.
Reese, I want to start with you.
We
folk love
talking about politically, oh, black women,
black women, oh, yeah, black women.
We can get black women to turn out.
But do you fund black women? Do you invest in black women, oh yeah, black women. We can get black women to turn out. But do you fund black women?
Do you invest in black women?
Are you hiring black women to be event planners?
Are you hiring black women to be political consultants?
Are you hiring black women to be pollsters?
Are you hiring black women to produce the radio commercials?
Are you hiring black women to produce television commercials?
Are you hiring black women to produce television commercials? Are you hiring black women
to actually place the media?
See,
folk love our
labor.
They love
us being political
sharecroppers.
They love for us
being retail
sharecroppers.
But when we start talking about us
selling the crops ourselves,
then we're told to be patient.
Not anymore.
I completely agree with you, Roland.
It's time to cut the check.
I'm tired of the,
thank you, black woman, for saving us.
Thank you, black people, for saving us.
And what do we get?
We need to return on our investment.
Point blank, period.
And it's long overdue.
And I agree with you, Roland.
We're not talking about cutting emissions,
carbon emissions, in the entire global world.
We're talking about giving us some damn money.
Y'all got the checks right now.
They got cash on hands.
So you can go on ahead and cut the check
and put that direct deposit in these bank accounts.
Anything else is nothing but rhetoric.
And like I always say, I don't care about the rhetoric.
I want to see the receipts.
And it's time to start bringing some receipts
to all of these pledges
and all of these announcements that they're making.
And as Byron Allen in the letter that you signed says,
it's not just minority-owned, it's Black-owned.
I'm trying to figure out how the hell they have this wide bucket
that pretty much captures at least 50% of the country
in terms of what they describe as diversity
and say that that whole diverse bucket is going to get 10%
within the next five years.
The math ain't math in McDonald's.
We spending the money.
I see McDonald's at the Essence Festival. I see McDonald's at the Essence Festival.
I see McDonald's at all kind of black shit.
But when it comes to paying black people,
the actual owners,
not just black targeted companies
that are still white-owned,
they got nothing but excuses.
So I'm with you 100% on this one, Roland.
It's time to cut the check.
Not five years from now, but today.
Mustafa, let me be clear. and I know many of them.
There are African-Americans.
First of all, McDonald's, our frat brother, was the first black CEO of McDonald's, Don Thompson.
18 months, and the board decided to get rid of him because they felt that he wasn't turning the company around fast enough.
And then they hired a white CEO who executed Don's plan,
and so the company rebounded. That same CEO got ran off because he was having sex with employees.
But the thing here, that means the white CEO replacement, not Don Thompson.
So here's what I do know. I know black people who have been executives working inside who have been sounding the alarm.
I know black franchisees have been sounding the alarm. I know that there are black people who are at Target, who are at GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mercedes, BMW.
I know they are in every major corporation fighting the good fight,
trying to get these corporations
to do right. They know the
data. They know black people
and what we're spending. They understand our
spending capacity.
But the corporations are playing games
when it comes to supporting.
And the thing is this here.
We know we exist.
So the reason we have small businesses can't build capacity, can't get dollars, can't build capacity. in companies giving aid to black America,
giving charity to black America,
being philanthropic to black America.
What we're saying is, no, this is investment.
This is ROI.
This is a return on investment.
We are investing in you with our dollars.
We expect you to support our businesses.
Yeah, you know, this is about power. That's what it's really about, because they know if we build
economic power, then many of the things that have been going on inside of our communities,
because we didn't have the resources to be able to properly fight back, that that paradigm then
changes. This is an old narrative that we are dealing with.
But we're dealing... We now have 21st century solutions
to this old narrative.
This is, as you led off with, about Black farmers
not being paid the same as white farmers
for bringing in the exact same crops.
This is about Black folks paying money to sit in theaters
and then being told you have to sit in the balcony
or in the back. This is about Black folks paying money to sit in theaters and then being told you have to sit in the balcony or in the back.
This is about black folks paying the same amount of money to get on a bus
and then being told to sit in the back of the bus or in the back of the train.
So this is about also disinvestment and the extraction of wealth outside of our communities.
So they will take our dollars, but then they also disinvest in our entities, in the structures that are necessary for us to be able to, one, fully compete, and two, for us to be able to also make sure that the proper narratives are being shared. and how folks would raise it, but then people would just kind of fluff it off
and say, well, you know, we're making sure
that white women and other minorities
are being taken care of in this federal contracting
and subcontracting space.
You know, whether it's McDonald's or GM or whoever it is,
if you want our dollars,
then you have to also be willing to reinvest
back into our communities at a fair share.
And until that happens, there cannot be economic justice. And we should actually be utilizing our dollars better
and saying that if these companies, these corporations are not willing to do the right
thing, then you will no longer receive our dollars because there are other choices that we can move
forward on. Now, let me let me let me I want I. I want Greg to really focus on
this one. Because I see
people in the chat going, boycott!
See, that means you haven't studied your history.
It was
Reverend Leon Sullivan who
created the apparatus that
led to Operation Breadbasket.
It was Operation Breadbasket
that he presented to Dr.
King. Dr. King.
Dr. King adopted that as the national program for SCLC.
And then he picked Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr. to run it.
I told you all, if you read Martin Depp's book, you'll understand.
Boycott was not first on the agenda. It was last.
The mistake that people make, Greg, is they yell, boycott!
But you have not informed anybody.
You haven't taught anybody.
You haven't made a demand.
You haven't made an ask.
You haven't made an ask. You haven't negotiated a deal. If you understand Operation Breadbasket, you will understand that it was after the people
were informed, the people were educated, it was after they collected the data to understand
what they were asking for.
It was after they then said, we want to see black executives, black hires.
We want to see money invested in black banks.
We want to see black businesses getting contracts.
It was when the companies refused after a period of time.
Then they went to the pulpits and said, we will now take direct action. What I need everybody listening to understand is you've got to learn to stop
being emotional
by yelling boycott
when you ain't playing nothing.
When you've informed nobody.
When you haven't taught
anybody. So people just
running around going, boycott, boycott, boycott.
No.
See, the announcement today, and again,
I appreciate the announcement from McDonald's,
that they're going to go from 2% to 5% on black-owned media by 2025.
Roland is saying, thank you.
But we're not waiting for 2025.
Do five now.
And in fact, make your goal 13. The goal for me is not five. The goal for me
is 13. If we're spending, if we represent, if Byron Allen's number is right, that black consumers
represent 40% of your market, well, the least you can do is spend the percentage that African-Americans represent in
the population. So I need black people to pump their brakes on social media when they start
hollering certain things, unless you put in the work to properly organize and mobilize your people.
Greg. Greg, we can't hold up. I think you're on mute.
OK, now we got you.
Yeah, I was because I was typing on the computer over there. I was trying to pull up the case.
I haven't read the case yet. If if if if he's following the same strategy he followed in the Comcast suit.
And this is a federal case. He's using that Civil Rights Act again. I was paying very careful attention as you narrated through there when he said separate
but equal.
Referring by the way, interestingly enough, to Tom Burrell, who those of you who know
the history of black advertising, and you've led us through this many times, Roland, is
the brother who all but invented the whole notion of targeted advertising when he did
it for McDonald's.
Remember that Calvin's Got a Job commercial.
That was Tom Burrell,
who apparently is getting one of these crumbs
that McDonald's is-
Well, no, no, no.
Tom Burrell, no.
Burrell, he sold Burrell,
so he no longer controls Burrell.
Oh, he doesn't-
So what is that Burrell then that they're talking about?
No, no, no.
That's the same Burrell.
He sold-
His partners, McGee, Ossie, Linden, others,
he sold the former. He retired.
He sold Burrell to them. That's right.
That's right. Thank you. Because, you know, like
you, Tom Burrell has shown some
interest in investing in HBCUs.
He created a Burrell Fellowship at Howard.
In fact, this is after his book, Brainwashed,
came out, where he's showing how this thing
manipulates, how these companies
manipulate our buying trends, which actually speaks
to the heart of what you're raising, Roland.
You know, individuals don't beat institutions.
And you can't have a boycott if there's no we.
And in this country, there is no we in terms of Black people.
Black people are a demographic.
You know, there's micro-targeting, there's the advertising, try to get us, you know,
you read Manny Marable's book, How Capitalism Gonna Develop Black America,
even the development of things like flavored sodas
was targeted with black folk.
You change the color of the sugar water,
make it red, call it cherry, make it purple, call it grape,
and then micro-target.
This is what Pepsi did, and like I said,
there's a bookshelf of stuff that's been written about this.
But what you're talking about, Roland,
there are a lot of moving parts, brother.
And it's difficult. Near the end of his life, as Dr. King said, we need to
redistribute the pain in terms of the selected buying movement. That came at the tail end
of a lot of work. And of course, Reverend Jackson continued that, expanded it, the whole Wall
Street project, the whole idea, whether it be beer distributorships or Wall Street, whatever
you want to say. I mean, the idea of targeting. But here's where I think, for me, it's just very fascinating,
because, again, this is breaking news. I was trying to look up the case. I haven't been able
to locate it on the docket, but I'm going to read it. And realizing that Byron Allen has said over
the next two years he wants to invest up to $10 billion and become the largest television network in the country. He bought, what was it, five or six television stations last month for about $380 million.
But I'm saying all that to say that we have someone in Byron Allen, and I'm the first
one to say, look, my objective is black liberation.
So, you know, I was pretty hard on Byron Allen and will continue to be.
But at the same time, recognizing that you need a Byron Allen and will continue to be, but at the same time, recognizing that
you need a Byron Allen to kick in a door because we don't have an individual with enough institutional
clout and the willingness to exercise it to kick that door in, unless you get somebody
like a Byron Allen or Oprah Winfrey or something like that.
But I'm sitting here to say this.
My questions
have a lot of questions. One would be
if he kicks in that door
because you all are signatories
to that letter.
And I read some of, you know, I read
I was able to find the letter. I was reading the letter. I'm saying
McDonald's spends
a billion six a year on advertising
and only like five
million dollars of that goes to
black-owned people.
Okay, yeah. If you can increase
that, and certainly if
the demographic is right, 40%,
then you're talking about a huge windfall. The question becomes
what does the black
control companies
do with that money? Is it like
corporate America where you basically engage in stock
buyback and then you sit back
and you put your picture
on the cover of Oprah magazine
or Essence
and say,
be like me?
Or are you going to
ride us to glory?
This is my question
with Byron Allen.
Well, here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
First of all,
Byron's company
is privately owned,
so there's no stock buyback.
Urban One
is publicly traded.
I saw a press release today
where they were praising
the McDonald's announcement
for helping their stock price go up.
Okay.
But the thing here is,
so let me unpack this,
so I need people to understand,
because again, we're talking about money here.
The reason black-owned media is small,
the reason black newspapers are small, the reason all these
entities are small, because we've been suffocated out of the dollars. I'll say it again. I got no
problem saying it. This is very simple, folks. If this company is able to get our fair share,
if we are able,
and I need everybody to hear what I'm saying,
and I got no problem for anybody coming back to check.
If we're able to secure
25 million in this advertising revenue,
30 people will be hired.
Show me, I don't know if
you got 30 black journalists at the Washington Post.
See, this is the difference.
Then we go for not one show,
but to 12 shows.
See, that's what, so all of a sudden,
you're able to build capacity.
Fox News makes a billion five in profit,
not revenue, profit.
So the reason CNN has cnn.com,
they're doing CNN films,
they've got CNN Network,
CNN International,
CNN, all these different divisions
because they're getting the advertising revenue.
So now imagine black media
now going from crumbs to a whole slice.
Now you ain't hungry.
Now, see, let me not go into academia.
Now we shouldn't be upset when the University of North Carolina
plays games with Nicole Hannah Jones for tenure because now we
can turn right around and invest that money in HBCUs and say damn them y'all
now have the money to hire folks for tenure see now and that's just a music
that's a current example what happened, where we are now, I need everybody listening to my voice to understand this.
Where we are now is
our entire
black
infrastructure
is predicated on philanthropy.
The NAACP
is solely existent
on corporate donations.
So truth be told, the NAACP does great work.
But the reason the NAACP can't really go hard
is because when you're funded by corporate America.
See, when Patrick Swigert was president of Howard University,
he came on my radio show, WVON,
and he was talking about the $250 million capital campaign
that Howard was going through.
And he proudly stated that 65% of the money
for the capital campaign came through corporate donations.
I said, Brother Swigert, that does not make me happy.
He said, well, why? I said, well, Brother Swigert, if corporate America decides not to give,
Howard falls. I said, so it should be 65 individual, 35 corporate. If people start examining our black institutions,
if we see when the corporations pay our black businesses,
then our black businesses can buy the tables.
Then our black businesses can do the fundraisers for the black politicians.
Then the black business owners,
when Mustafa is working on environmental justice,
we can say, brother, you don't have to sit here
and go to that white nonprofit
and beg them and kill yourself for $100,000.
Here's a million.
That, folk, is why we are sitting here.
Greg, you talked about the money.
And everybody listen to me again.
Let me go ahead and pull a calculator out.
This is how much money, this is how much money right here.
Matter of fact, I don't even think I can put it all on here.
I can't even put a billion on here.
So we're just going to use $170 million.
Right now, in the advertising industry, $170 billion is spent on advertising.
We get 1% of that.
That means that what we get, y'all see that's $170 million.
Pretend that's $170 billion.
This is what we get
right here. Just pretend
that's $1.7 billion.
So out of $170 billion,
black-owned media
gets $1.7 billion
total.
Y'all,
if we go from a $1.7 billion total. Y'all, if we go from 1.7 billion collective to 17 billion collective,
that completely changes the game. That now means,
oh, CNN,
y'all got satellite trucks?
So do we.
That now means not, well,
Roland and Henry and Anthony
is only three of them can go out
and broadcast remotely.
I can now send out
20 crews
to broadcast from different parts around the country.
That's how the game has changed, Reesey.
And I need our audience to understand
every time you spend in that dollar,
you should be saying,
what's the return on investment to black people?
Yeah.
Absolutely. I mean, here's the return on investment to Black people? Yeah.
Absolutely. I mean, here's the thing.
I understand where Dr. Carr is coming from.
However, we still live in a capitalist society.
At the end of the day, even if Roland Martin and Byron Allen and Blavity or whoever else
got all the money and just pocketed it
and put their faces on a magazine,
that's... it is what it is
because it's a capitalist society.
And so it's not coming out of our pockets necessarily.
It's coming out of McDonald's very fat pockets.
No, but remember, it is coming out of our pockets
because we're the ones putting it in their pockets.
That's true.
But I mean, in the sense that at the end of the day,
McDonald's is going to spend the money.
It's about how you divide the pie.
And we always have to go to the well to Black people and over and over again. I mean, actually,
Roland, I agree with your point in terms of reliance on corporate donations. But it is
kind of tiresome that every time Black people got to come up with their $5 and their $10
and their $15 and we got to scrape and scrounge to fund things. when there's plenty of money out there, it's just not coming
to our institutions and to our companies.
Now, I firmly believe
that the money going to
our institutions will have a
positive impact, as you laid out, Roland,
that it will have the impact
of our stories being told.
We have more autonomy. We have more capacity.
And we know, in this country,
if it doesn't go viral, you don't get justice.
So when this person is shot by the cops, if it doesn't become a hashtag, if it doesn't make it to CNN, that person's not getting justice.
So there are real implications to scaling up the capacity for Black businesses. point is, aside from all of that, we still gotta make demands of these
institutions, of these corporations
to give us a bigger slice of the
pie. And we shouldn't always
just be, okay,
at the same time, riding
the black institutions for what
they're gonna do for us. They ain't got
the money yet. Yes, we need to hold them
accountable, but we don't even hold the
same amount of accountability for the white. Not you, Dr. Carr, but we don't even hold the same amount of accountability for the white.
Not you, Dr. Carr, but I'm saying
as a community, we don't hold the white
companies that are receiving the other
$170 billion
accountable for what they're doing for our community.
So that's all my point is, that we
got to get the money. They got the
money. Let's get it. And then
let's then hold our institutions
accountable and say, all right, now you got this amount of purchasing power
What are you gonna do for us? Look Angela Brock? I appreciate Angela sending me a her now donation
Jarius Finney $50 donation
Do you have a Jarius had actually two $50 donations? I've had other people I deposited 30 checks last night y'all
If we are getting our fair share two $50 donations. I've had other people. I deposited 30 checks last night. Y'all,
if we are getting our fair share,
I ain't got to ask y'all
to send money via Cash App.
PayPal, Venmo,
Zelle, Money Order,
Check.
That's how they...
So, I need to see...
I need everybody listening because I need y'all to say, we connect this thing.
If they are properly advertising with us, Angela gets to keep her hundred and invest it how she wants to.
Now, granted, she's investing in the show and I greatly appreciate it.
What I'm trying to get y'all to understand is Angela now can say, well, I don't have to give Roland 100.
I can now give it to my college or a scholarship fund or my community group.
Same with Jerry's.
See, that's the thing, Mustafa.
When we step back and look at how we are systematically frozen out. I keep telling everybody who's listening,
public workers, black public workers,
collectively, are the richest group
of black people in America.
Now, somebody watching going,
Roland, I'm a schoolteacher.
Boo.
Your schoolteacher money funds the teacher's pension fund.
Mm-hmm.
Who do you think are the biggest investors on Wall Street?
Pension funds.
Who do you think venture capitalists go to
to launch their firms? Pension funds. When you hear private
equity, pension funds. So all these black people are workers. You've got people on the state level
managing pension funds. Most don't look like any of us.
Then they're hiring companies, investment firms, to invest the money.
Don't look like us.
Companies got 401K programs.
They're not using Ariel.
They're not using Eddie Brown in Baltimore.
Black-owned mutual funds.
So here they are.
I need y'all to hear me.
They are taking the collective wealth of pension funds to invest in Wall Street and Silicon Valley to make white people rich.
It's connecting the dots.
Mustafa, it comes down to the money.
It's about economic power.
You know, if we get people to understand that,
then, and begin to unpack where those opportunities lie,
then that's when we can make real change happen
inside of our organizations and inside of our communities.
The resources build the infrastructure
along with the ingenuity and innovation
of the folks who lead those organizations.
And when you understand that dynamic,
then you understand why you have to
put your strategies together and push these
corporate entities that are not doing us a favor. That's the thing that we got to get people to
understand. They're not doing us a favor. They have a responsibility to move these dollars back
into the communities that are supporting them and help to build their infrastructure.
Right.
So it's time for us to be able to build our own infrastructure. And that's
why, Greg, Harvard
has a $40 billion
endowment. That's
why Columbia and Cornell
and Texas A&M.
Because when you've been sitting
on the money and when folks pass
on and they get to the university
or they drop these millions
upon millions.
And so, sure, folks are excited that Mackenzie Scott, the ex-wife of Jeff Bezos, has been
sending, you know, she's just increased the endowments of all these black universities.
But I need our people to understand when we're frozen out of all of the economic sectors
and all we've all we're getting are crumbs,
that's why it makes it harder for us to fund our institutions
because we ain't getting the dollars.
That's what happens when you got black kids
who now have significant college debt
because the mama and daddy couldn't get the high-paying jobs
which allowed them to save to be able to pay for their college.
All of these things are interrelated.
And just so I need everybody to understand
how you also create black wealth,
my wife and I don't have any kids,
which means that if I create a multimillion-dollar business
and I decided to leave it to my 13 nieces and nephews,
Roland's work with my wife
now has created 13 black millionaires.
That's what they've been doing.
And so to everybody who's like,
I don't know why y'all making this demand and lawsuit,
because this ain't about an individual.
This lawsuit is not about Byron Allen.
This fight, this fight is not
about, because trust me, I was
on the phone with Byron today before I came on the show.
Byron says he is prepared
to file three lawsuits
a week against major
companies in America because he
has the money to spend it.
Right.
And what I'm doing
is working with other black media
to say, to Greg's point,
be in position
when you receive the money
to deliver on the goods
in order,
because they're going to try to play
games with the numbers.
This is all we're saying.
But this fight we're in right now,
y'all, this, this
is what the first and the second
reconstruction was about. Don't
get just caught up in somebody saying
pass the George Floyd justice act.
No, no, no, no. You better confront the money.
Greg, final comment before I go to a break.
I'll say real quick, brother.
There's no we. That's very painful for me
to say. There's no naturally developed we. Byron Allen could say that, and I hope he follows through on it, but the simple fact of the our solidarity was stronger the farther back you go to the lash, because we were held together through apartheid into a need for collective communal work.
So when you see 1921 sitting there listening to Mother Fletcher yesterday testify in Congress about Tulsa at 107 years old, you know, the Greenwood district of Tulsa was what it was because Jim Crow held that community together.
Right.
They torched it.
They then rebuilt it bigger.
People don't understand.
In the 1940s, so-called Black Wall Street was bigger then than it was in the 20s.
They rebuilt.
But what happens is when you remove the hedge of segregation.
Right.
See, capitalism is all inclusive.
None of us are frozen out of capitalism.
Harvard has the endowment because the John Harvard had plantations in the Caribbean and
other places.
It was based on labor theft, our labor theft.
Once you have accelerated and gained that type of advantage, you never lose it.
Right.
The inequality just continues to expand.
And so I guess what I'm saying is that it's more than us just thinking that there's a we. We can't
stipulate that we. We
have to develop
that we. Right. And so otherwise
what capitalism does is, see, what
you can create is a class of
black million and billionaires who will
then move in their own class
interest against anybody.
This is why public policy
is so important. It's not a moving car. I know we've got to go on,
so this is very important.
We won't have time to talk about it today.
Maybe you can pull together
a conversation about this. This is why we have to think about
this in terms of all these moving parts.
I'll end with this.
Our HBCUs
are increasingly
reverting to the mentality that
I would closely associate with Booker Washington
at the turn of the century,
which is injecting these HBCU curricula
with basically employment agency curricula
as these same companies move toward diversity, equity,
which they're being forced to do
because of the people in the street
who do not have that wealth.
But the concession is, we'll pull a few more of you blacks in, make you a little bit richer.
And as a result, the idea of developing a common mentality is checkmated in a capitalist society where we have taken individual progress as a proxy for collective progress.
Kwame Nkrumah said it.
Seeing black millionaires is not evidence of progress.
That's evidence of what capitalism does to maintain and extend its interests.
And so I guess what I'm saying is we really have to think very seriously about this.
And so I'm glad to see Barron Allen in court.
He needs to file all those lawsuits, and he never needs to leave that table with you and the brothers and sisters who, if they had the money, would turn around and
hire everybody because I don't see any
evidence yet
that these black millionaires
and billionaires who have some institutional control
turn around and invest
that wealth in
transformational projects for the collective.
And that's where,
and again, this is the last
point before I go to the breakdown.
I need people to understand this.
There's a reason why when we have these where's our money segments and y'all hear me talk about black advertising,
you hear me mention law firms, engineering firms, architectural design firms, event planning, limousine companies, catering companies.
There's a reason why I've given the challenge to black board members.
Don't sit your ass on these boards and pick up your stock options and your check and you not sit at the table saying, no, no, no, I need to see the black folks up and down.
See, if all of a sudden,
see, if this was all about,
like I got some fool talking about,
oh, you're trying to enrich yourself.
No, no, no, no, no.
See, my grandmother had a catering business.
My brother now runs the catering business.
So I want to see black caterers get their money.
I want to see black folks run audiovisual get their money. I want to see black folks who are handling the car transportation, get their money.
See, that's where the we comes in.
And so do understand, when I'm having these conversations with Byron Allen,
we are having broad, deep conversations.
See, y'all got to look at the list who signed the letter.
Now, the names on this letter are different than the first letter. Y'all can go got to look at the list, who signed the letter. Now,
the names on this letter are different than the first letter. Y'all can go back and look at the first letter,
but the names on this one are different.
First of all, the first letter we
signed had eight names.
This one only got five.
Y'all look it up.
So, not everybody has been trying to
roll. Some folks jumped off. Why am I
saying that?
Because this fight can't be won with scared Negroes.
That's right.
I could very easily be quiet and get a small check.
I can't do that.
Because if you tell me I should be happy with 2%
when I know we should be getting 10%?
Mm-mm.
No, I'm not happy with that.
Folks, this is about we understanding
how the dots are connected.
And if we, because remember, we are talking black-owned advertising.
When you start talking about black supplier development,
it's a whole different conversation.
I'm saying we should be getting 10% of McDonald's ad spending.
We should also be getting billions in black-owned supplier development.
And I'm talking about everything they need.
Cups, janitorial, you name it, going down the list.
But I need our people to stop being scared.
I need our people to understand
scared money don't make money.
And the only reason
we're even sitting right here now, because we have some
black folks who have the courage
to stand up to systems
in this country.
When we fought CNN,
I called Bernard Shaw.
And I said, Bernard said, Roland, every generation has its turn.
Now it's your turn.
We had our turn.
Now it's yours.
I'm 52.
A young brother or sister right now in high school or college should not be fighting the 1% battle
30 years from now.
So this fight, y'all, to all you fools who are saying, oh, it's all about you.
No, actually, it's not.
Byron's 60.
It's not even about him.
It's not about Todd or Junior or Butch. No, it's actually, it's actually for black-owned media
50 years from now.
Because if we don't do this fight right now,
50 years from now,
they're going to be having a 1%, 2% conversation.
And you're going to have Negroes fighting over crumbs, happy to get 1% and 2%.
As Denzel said in Malcolm X, I'm not satisfied.
When we come back, we'll talk the third reconstruction on Roller Mark Unfiltered. Are you trying to say that as of January 20th,
that President Trump will be president?
That depends on what happens on Wednesday.
President Trump won this election.
Do you think the election was stolen?
Absolutely.
At this point, we do not know who has prevailed in the election.
This fraud was systemic, and I dare say it was effective.
This is a contested election.
President Trump won by a landslide.
Pull them this way!
The outcome of our presidential election
was seized from the hands of voters.
We have to make sure that they look into
what has been the theft of this presidential election.
Joe Biden lost and President Trump won.
Whatever happens to President Trump, he is still the elected president.
I would love to see this election overturned.
No one believes that this guy got 80 million votes. It doesn't feel right. It doesn't look right.
No ragtag group of liberal activists will be allowed to steal this election.
The president wasn't defeated by huge numbers.
In fact, he may not have been defeated at all.
Over the next 10 days, we get to see the ballots that are fraudulent,
and if we're wrong, we will be made fools of.
Hi, my name is Latoya Luckett.
Yo, it's your man Deon Cole from Black-ish, and you're watching...
Roland Martin, unfiltered.
Stay woke.
Folks, today on Capitol Hill,
Reverend Dr. William J. Barber joined members of Congress
to call for a reconstruction resolution to confront what's happening with the poor in this country.
This is what they had to say.
We know that if we're going to get the omnibus legislation necessary for a third reconstruction, fully addressing poverty and low wealth from the bottom up.
We must address several interlocking injustices simultaneously.
We can't separate them anymore.
Systemic racism as it relates to all races,
black people, brown people, indigenous people, Asian people,
and the collateral damage done to white people because of systemic racism.
Systemic poverty, ecological devastation, denial of healthcare, the war economy and militarization of our community,
and the false moral narrative of religious nationalism.
We know that the cost of not addressing inequality is too high.
This is the question we ask the media to ask,
because we already know what the criticism will be.
Well, how much does it cost?
But Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel Peace Prize economist, said for us, this is the real question. What is the
cost of inequality? What is the cost of leaving it as it is? This is a moral issue rooted in the
commitments of our Constitution that the first thing we add to is to establish justice, promote the general welfare, and
to ensure equal protection under the law.
This is a moral agenda, but a moral agenda from my faith tradition, this is Pentecost
week for me as a Christian, and in Pentecost, morality is not just folk coming together
and singing we love each other, it is coming together by the Spirit, building a community
where there is no
lack. So a moral agenda is also a sound economic agenda. We must preach good news to the poor.
Greg, in that first segment, you talked about public policy. That's what Barbara is talking
about. We talked about the third reconstruction, dealing with public policy and how to impact what's happening with the poor.
You're absolutely right, Roland. I mean, and listening to Representative Lee and Representative
Jayapal today as they talked about this reconstruction resolution, mind you, not
legislation, a resolution, just trying to get into the conversation, it really ties directly to the large conversation we were having just before the break.
You know, you don't transform a society in a modern world system built on capitalism.
You don't transform it through capitalism.
You have to organize people. And so what I'm saying is that when we heard Reverend Barber
and then Representative Jai Paul and Representative Lee today,
you know, when you talk about 140 million poor people
or people who are just a step from disaster,
as Representative Lee said today,
and you emphasize the fact they make up 30%,
that we make up 30% of the electorate,
then what you're saying is that public
policy is the way that those who are not the winners in a winner-take-all, zero-sum game called
global capitalism. Believe me, capitalism doesn't stop at the U.S. border. What's going on in
Palestine right now with Israel, what's going on in Africa and the Caribbean and Latin America
has a direct connection to why you pay so little for draws in Walmart.
But, I mean, without getting into that,
public policy in this country means Barber and all
are saying, we must now redistribute resources.
Because if you don't redistribute resources,
if you don't eradicate poverty from the bottom up,
as he said and as Representative Lee said today,
here's what's going to happen, because capitalism is really unsustainable.
Those people who don't have a place to eat and sleep, those people who don't have health care,
those people who don't have a capacity to earn a living wage, you know what those people are
going to say? They're going to say, well, I guess I'm a loser. I guess I'll sit down here and die.
No. As the dude told me when I was getting my doctorate at Temple, and I saw the brother here,
he said, man, they're getting around a layoff
over here. He worked on the crew at Temple.
I said, what you gonna do, man? He said, I'm gonna get this last
check and buy a pistol and a ski mask.
See, here's what we don't understand
about capitalism. It is
unsustainable. You know how you stop war?
You create a society
where people don't feel like they have
to go out and rob somebody,
damn it, because you ain't got enough police. We're going to talk about the killers a little
bit later. But what we're seeing now is the result of stratospheric inequality.
And that's what Reverend Barber, Reverend Theo Harris, the Poor People's Campaign,
and the tradition of Martin King and everybody else is trying to stop before it spins out of
control. And we all out here trying to find a gun. And that's when you're going to find out the Second Amendment
ain't worth the papers written on
because you ain't going to be able to get a gun.
See, Ray, see, this is one of the reasons why
all these companies were complaining.
They were complaining about, you know,
these unemployment benefits.
And I got a tweet earlier,
and I wish I can remember who sent it to me.
And it was one guy who
he had to raise his wages
to $15 an hour, and then he started
marketing his available jobs. Guess what
happened? They all got filled.
Then guess what happened?
He didn't see a drop off in revenue.
See,
what you're seeing
with the ban of $15 an hour,
you're seeing people say, y'all want somebody to work for $7 an hour.
You're not providing any child care.
I don't have transportation.
So, hell yeah.
If I got to go through all of that, I might as well just take unemployment if literally I can't afford the child care.
So, all these pro-lifers, the party of family values, don't like Head Start, don't like prenatal care. So all these pro-lifers, the party of family values,
don't like Head Start,
don't like prenatal care.
All of a sudden, y'all want to holler
why these lazy folks can't work.
A lot of them
want to work, but there are
other impediments to keeping them from working.
Absolutely.
I mean, and here's the thing
that's so crazy about this is there are public policy proposals.
There are politicians that are actually trying to get to the root of this problem. through this propaganda campaign, this disinformation and misinformation campaign that keeps people distracted, that keeps people dumb, that keeps people ignorant,
that actually empowers their ignorance through all of these false, through all this false
information to turn them against the very people that are actually trying to propose the solutions
that will uplift their lot. That is the craziest part about the society that we're living in.
So I understand Dr. Carr's position about capitalism and being unsustainable.
But I think one of the really pressing issues that doesn't get enough attention is how unsustainable our society is if we continue to live in a society where we don't agree on a basic set of facts, where we don't live in a fact-based society.
We don't live in a science-based society when it comes to this pandemic and the vaccine, for instance.
We don't live in a fact-based society even when it
comes to our politics. And I've seen
this. I'm not going to invoke any names
because we don't have enough time for all that.
But I will say I've seen time
and time again where people are against
the, let's just say the CBC
for example. The CBC gets
more shit than Mitch McConnell
and Kevin McCarthy and any of these
other, even Donald Trump did at the time. And they're the ones who have put forth the HR40
commission. They're the ones who have been the conscience of the Congress. They're the ones who
have for decades tried to push forth poverty reducing measures, health, universal healthcare.
John Conyers was the one who introduced it over and over again before Bernie Sanders became popular
for, for, for champ or not championing it, but for talking about it. Let me say that.
And so we have a disconnect in between where we have people that are so blinded and so
captivated by disinformation that they're actually making it that much easier to keep them down
because they're not supporting the people. And it's not a magic wand, but it does
start with actually supporting the politicians at every single level that are actually proposing
these solutions. Mustafa. Well, you know, I know policy and, you know, it's interesting when we
talk about poverty in our country, you know, it is, it is debilitating to the mind, to the body, and to the spirit.
And when you look at the policies that are connected to each of those elements, then you understand the dynamics that are happening in America.
You know, we understand the lack of investment that is happening around education and accessibility and how we are unwilling to pay folks who are actually creating the next set of leaders for our country.
So that says something about our country and where we place value on individuals.
When we talk about the body, there's no reason for folks to be dying prematurely from air pollution
or when they turn on the tap that they can't have clean water coming out or being exposed to lead.
We know that in our country right now that we got a wealth gap that's going on.
So this resolution begins to get people focused in the right direction
if they're willing to actually do the hard work.
When you got $171,000 going to white families
and $17,000 going to black families and brown families,
then you know you got a problem that you have to be able to address
if you're serious about the dynamics that are going on in this country. When you got 24 million people who are dealing with food
insecurity and living in food deserts and 25 million people who are in physician deserts and
medically underserved areas and they can't actually even get to a doctor, even in a COVID-19 pandemic,
then you know you got some problems that are going on. When you got 500,000 people who every night in this country
are going to bed homeless or housing insecure, that goes back to the poverty part of what Dr.
Barber was talking about. When you got 2.2 million folks who are in prisons and jails and internment
centers, and that you continue to feed that pipeline, when if you made the investments in
these other areas that we're talking about, you could completely feed that pipeline when if you made the investments in these other areas
that we're talking about,
you could completely change that dynamic
and you could build wealth back in black and brown
and indigenous communities
because the men and some of the women
are not going to jail,
but they're actually being utilized
with that God-given ingenuity and innovation that they have.
You can change the dynamic.
And for those brothers and sisters
who are focused on gun violence
and the 36,000 people who are dying, it is tied to poverty. People are making choices. People are losing hope
because folks won't invest in them. So when we have this resolution talking about this third
set of opportunities, and when Biden, who I support, everybody knows that, and I love Kamala, then we should be having not just a
Build Back Better campaign, but a campaign that is specifically focused on those individuals who
have been unseen and unheard. And I believe that the administration is actually trying to do that.
But sometimes we got to call it out. Who are the folks who are in pain right now? Who are the folks
who have been disinvested in? And are we serious about changing this system?
Our brother W.E.B. DuBois shared with us that the system was not designed for us.
That's right.
But I think we can change that dynamic here.
In the 21st century, we can make some decisions about if we really truly want to embrace everyone in our country,
do we actually want to truly lift everybody up?
Then that means we have to have intentionality. And we have to have intentionality in making sure
that policy, which has been infused with racism and discrimination and biases, that that is
extracted and that is no longer allowed and that there is penalties for those who continue to
utilize those types of practices, whether on the federal, the state, the county,
or the local level.
That's right.
Hear, hear.
We can leave it at that.
The George Floyd Justice and Policing Act, folks,
will not be ready for a vote by May 25th,
the first anniversary of George Floyd's death.
Congressman Karen Bass emphasized that the bipartisan group
working on the police reform bill wants to get it right.
They haven't come to terms yet. She suggested the legislation could still be voted upon in the coming weeks, You know, Recy, a lot of people keep...
Black folks been hitting me, man.
How did they pass the anti-Asian hate bill?
And they ain't moved on this.
First of all, to everybody who...
I see Greg shaking his head.
First of all, most of y'all fools
ain't read the damn bill.
Exactly.
You ain't read it. Don't hurt bill. Exactly. You ain't read it.
No.
You ain't read it.
It is not a specific Asian bill.
I mean, that's how dumb this is.
And so a bill,
the George Floyd Justice Act,
it's hard to pass the House.
It requires negotiation with their end. So these people are like, Act, it's already passed the House. It requires negotiation
with their end. So these people
are like, where's that? Where's the
anti-lynching bill? And I've been challenging
these fools. Well, how many of y'all even call your
senator?
Oop.
You're sitting there around here complaining,
where's this?
What have you
done?
That's the thing that kills me recently.
And it's like, yo, this is why it takes negotiation.
Right.
I would rather them keep negotiating than have no bill at all.
Make it happen.
Yeah, but also, I mean, here's the thing.
Like you said, Roland, people don't even look at the details.
And I think there are, and I said yesterday, there are plenty of examples of how Black people get screwed, justice is delayed, it's hard fought, or is denied altogether.
But this COVID anti-hate crime bill is not one of those. It literally creates a DOJ employee position, which, by the way, you don't even need legislation to do this.
They can easily do this on an executive level. But I understand that Congress wants to get a win,
and they put this legislation forward.
And it creates issuing guidance.
This is not some new class of protection
that's specifically only for Asian Americans.
The hate crimes has been legal
since the Title I of the Civil Rights Act,
which was for Black people, by the way.
And then in 2009, you have the Matthew Shepard
and the James Byrd Jr. Hate Crime Act that was attached to the defense authorization.
And so this isn't some, oh, all of a sudden now we care about hate crimes.
Where is the Afro-American hate crimes bill?
What are you talking about?
Did you miss the 1960s?
Did you miss the Civil Rights Act?
Why are y'all mad about shit that has been in place for decades when we have the George
Ford Justice and Policing Act, which, by the way, when it was introduced,
what went viral that day
can take long, went viral.
So we have to get serious
about how bad we want these things to pass.
It's not cool to only bring it up
when you want to talk about,
oh, this person is getting that.
Oh, Biden is reversing transgender discrimination.
Oh, they've signed the anti-Asian hate crimes bill.
Where's our black ass bill?
Well, where is the energy to pass it?
Why did we not seize the momentum when people were out in the streets and we had a bill on the floor to pressure Mitch McConnell to get up Rand Paul's ass when he was filibustering the anti-lynching legislation that had passed two times previously under the leadership of then-Senator Kamala Harris,
Senator Booker, and even Tam Scott, unanimously.
And it had passed in the House,
and Rand Paul was the one who filibustered it.
So we have to get our shit together
and quit looking at,
well, they got this and they got that.
When we get more...
We-we focus so much more on getting cool points
and scoring viral tweets
and getting a clickbait
and being the most woke motherfuckers on the Internet,
and then we wonder why our stuff is not getting passed.
So we have to get serious.
We have to put the pressure on it.
We should have done it ten times more last year,
but we were too busy arguing
about this doesn't go far enough
and this doesn't happen,
and then a year later, everybody's complaining about the bill that they trashed and didn't get
behind last year. So get serious and let's see what happens. But I already see people trashing
qualified amenity. It might be out. Qualified amenity is probably going to be out, but we're
going to get the ban on chokeholds, which is what is addressing Eric Garner and actually addressing George Floyd. We're going to get the ban
on no-knock warrants. We're going to get the registry,
the national registry, which something like that
would have prevented the person who
killed Tamir Rice
from being able to get his job. So there's a lot
of victories in this bill if we get behind it
and quit trying to tear down
any kind of progress that we can make
so we can complain a year or two years later down the line
if we don't have any progress.
So here's what is interesting, Greg.
This is from an NPR story,
and this is for the people, again, who don't read.
It says the bill aims to make the reporting of hate crimes
more accessible at the local and state levels
by boosting public outreach
and ensuring reporting resources
are available online in multiple
languages. It also directs the Department of Justice to designate a point person to expedite
the review of hate crimes related to COVID-19 and authorizes grants to state and local governments
to conduct crime reduction programs to prevent and respond to hate crimes.
Greg, that's not only Asians. It's hate crimes.
That's everybody.
So for all the people who keep acting like,
ooh, the Asians got their bill.
Y'all, I told y'all,
all these old fake-ass YouTube historians,
Roland Martin, you did a video saying Congress can't pass a specific bill based upon race.
Y'all, the attacks on Asians precipitated the bill.
The bill ain't specific to Asians.
It's not.
If there's a hate crime that involves somebody black,
this also impacts them i don't i don't understand
why people and again this is what happens when you listen to these fake ass youtube historians
who read nothing and y'all fools get all excited and hyped about well so, so-and-so, she said this, and he said this.
If black people are a victim of a hate crime,
it could get reported under the...
Greg, go ahead.
No, brother, you laid it out. You answered the question.
We're not only not reading, we're in a
society where
literacy is not an asset.
Everything is tied to
your capacity to earn some money, to make some money.
So, you know, the least amount of time you can spend reading, thinking, you know, those things are diminished in this society.
So, I mean, I mean, so, of course, it wouldn't know.
But, yeah, having read, as I think we all have, the COVID-19 Hate Crimes Act, you know, a couple of things struck me. And then listening, of course, to Congresswoman Bass today
who said, you know, if this thing passed
the way I wanted it exactly,
after it passed, the next day,
I will be back in there moving forward.
In other words, there are no silver bullets.
And Risa, you made a very important point, sis.
When you look at that three or four years
after the end of the Civil War, 1865, 6, 7,
the Civil Rights Act of 1866, going back to Byron Allen,
that's what he's using to go into court, I suspect. Now look,
legislation and policy is only as good as your capacity to enforce
it. When you saw the deaths of Swirner, Goodman, and Cheney a century later
in 1964 in Mississippi, the reason why United States v.
Price reached the Supreme Court and they were able
to uphold a federal conviction
of those crackers who acted as a mob
in there, who acted under the
color of law, was because
the example was so
egregious that you
could charge
them and convict them on intent.
The problem with the George Floyd
Act is the problem in American law in the first place,
which is when you're dealing with non-white life,
the assumption is that there was no intent
in terms of harming non-white people,
particularly black people,
there was no intent that was racial.
All of that is about juries.
All of that is about judges.
It isn't about the letter of the law.
In fact, arguably, you would need no new legislation.
Malcolm X's birthday was yesterday.
Remember when he said in 1963 that when, uh,
when Black people took the thing in their own hands
in Birmingham after the crackers came out there,
started trying to beat up Black people,
Kennedy sent in the troops?
Malcolm said there was no new law.
There was only a decision by a policymaker
to make these words mean something
when white life was being threatened.
Why am I saying that in the context
of what we saw today with this COVID-19 act?
You're absolutely right, Roland.
Money in that act is going to be used
to create a national database.
You know who doesn't want a national database?
The five congressional Republicans
out of Georgia who voted against it,
including Marjorie Taylor
Greene. And in the United States Senate, one of the leaders of the January 6th insurrection,
young Josh Hawley out of Missouri, who was the only member of the United States Senate to vote
against the legislation. Do you know why? Because they understand that there is no silver bullet in
one bill, in one piece of legislation, but every time you win an incremental
victory, and if and when they take out qualified immunity, the George Floyd Act is a toothless
act, but it's got one more tooth than it did the day before it signed, and then we keep
going.
Every time you push a little farther, you get closer to the resolution.
This country is not going to exist in its current formation.
What these white boys are going to understand one day
is that the only hope they have
of not having to meet their maker
in the streets of these very cities
they think they're protecting
is policy that will somehow,
going back to what you said, Mustafa, a second ago,
will somehow create some safety nets for all of us.
Because if all of us don't get a safety net,
ain't nobody going to have a damn safety net. That's what all of us. Because if all of us don't get a safety net, ain't nobody gonna have a damn safety net.
That's what history teaches us.
And, uh, y'all, again,
it's the really stuck-on stupid people.
Like this dumbass who goes by Truthseeker.
He goes,
The George Floyd Act is not a bill
just for black folk either, Roland.
So Asian crime bill is for everyone,
but call the Asian crime bill.
You okay, RoRo? No, dumbass.
Go to my computer.
This is the name of the bill.
The bill is called
the COVID-19 Hate Crimes
Act.
That's the name.
It was introduced
as a result of the hate crimes attacks on Asians during COVID.
That's right.
So no, dumbass, it's not the anti-Asian hate crimes bill.
Just like the 1964 Civil Rights Act is not the black people bill.
See, for all y'all dumbasses,
and again, this is what happens
when y'all listen to fake-ass YouTube historian
slash never will be's.
I ain't calling wannabes.
They are never will be's. Don ain't calling wannabes. They are never will bees.
Don't do it, Rob.
Don't do it.
Y'all get all,
oh my God, oh my God,
oh my God,
this is what they doing for them.
For all you dumb asses out there,
you ever heard of the 1996
Married with Disabilities Act?
Hmm.
Hmm. Matter of fact, let me just go ahead. You ever heard of the 1996 American Disabilities Act? Mm. Mm.
Matter of fact, let me just go ahead.
1996 American...
..with Disabilities Act.
Let me go ahead and pull that up.
Um, to all of the fools...
OK. Um, to all of the fools, okay, do y'all know what the basis of this act is?
The 1964 Civil Rights Act.
That's right.
The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a bill that black people fought for,
that dealt with the public accommodations,
that later, because of...
I'm sorry, did you just say public accommodations?
Come on, brother.
Yes.
It applies to people with disabilities.
Again, for Indian asses who don't read,
for those of you who literally know nothing,
I mean, you know nothing,
Title IX.
I'm sorry.
Let me go ahead and type Title IX.
Don't do it.
You know there are no black women.
There are no women who are black.
Just like there are no black people who need accommodations, brother.
What is...
I know I got my last guess.
I know that.
What is Title IX?
Title IX is a federal civil rights law.
Passed in 1972.
Where did it come from?
The 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Why?
Because there was a racist from Virginia named Judge Smith
who thought that he could kill the 1964 Civil Rights Act
by inserting a provision in there about women.
What the dumbass racist didn't realize was
it actually garnered more votes.
So eight years after the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed,
guess what?
Ooh. Title IX was created. before the Civil Rights Act was passed, guess what?
Ooh, Title IX was created.
So here was a bill black people fought for,
was not named after black people, that actually us benefited from.
Let me just give the last one to the dumbasses
who ain't read nothing in school, who know nothing, and you prove your ignorance every single damn day.
Haitians, why are there ballots
in their language in Florida?
Oh, because of the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Why are there ballots in Korean?
Why are there ballots in Chinese?
Why are there ballots in multiple languages?
Oh, was that the black bill?
No.
Did black people fight for the 1965 Voting Rights Act?
Yes.
Was it to ensure our voting rights were protected?
Yes. Was that for American descendants
of slaves or foundational
black Americans or B1
or whatever?
No.
Others have benefited from it.
So for all you
fools who ain't even
read the damn COVID bill,
who know nothing about it, and how the Asians got a bill and we ain't even read the damn COVID bill. Who know nothing about it.
And how the Asians
got a bill and we ain't got one.
I ain't hear y'all
say that when Congressman Bobby Scott
got the bill passed
when it came to the police registry
that Obama signed into law when he was out on the streets
protesting with Black Lives Matter.
I ain't hear none of y'all talk all that bullshit when it came to the police registry that Obama signed into law when he was out in the streets protesting with Black Lives Matter.
I ain't hear none of y'all talk all that bullshit when Congresswoman Alma Adams inserted language
in the farm bill that led to millions going to HBCU.
Y'all talk all that shit about the CBC,
but y'all didn't say nothing.
Y'all said nothing about that.
If all y'all talking all that trash, you didn't say a damn thing about that was inserted in the COVID relief bill.
And no, the $5 billion wasn't all for black farmers.
It was for disadvantaged farmers that included African-Americans.
But it's amazing how y'all don't bring none of that up.
Five billion.
Y'all don't say nothing.
But you want to hide.
Roland, you supported the Democrats, and we ain't got nothing.
All right.
Tell me how many black businesses
without a business due to COVID-19
who didn't get PPP loans?
See?
See, since y'all want to go there.
Yeah, man, you sitting here, you know,
Reesey, you sitting here supporting Kamala
and y'all all up here supporting the Democrats.
All right, well, tell me this then.
Did your ass cash that check?
Don't, don't, don't do it.
Did y'all cash that check
for the $1.9 billion COVID relief plan?
Holler at me if you did.
Let me know if you sent that check back to the IRS.
Hmm, hmm. check back to the IRS. Hmm.
Hmm.
And for every fool hollering,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
where the anti-lynching bill?
How many of you punk asses
called Senator Rand Paul's office?
Exactly.
That's right.
That's right.
Okay, y'all talking
all this trash about,
uh, uh, uh, where the joy and floor justice act
how many of you punk asses have called
the sinners for you from
right
see
y'all don't want to go there
all y'all want to do is sit here
and bitch and moan
man the cbc ain't shit they ain't done
nothing uh uh they ain't done
what what your ass have done
tell me that
tell me that
so again
if any one of y'all
please tell me
the Asians got they bill
read it
tell me how that bill
is specific
only to Asians.
It's not.
That's what happens when all y'all do
is listen to fake-ass YouTube never-will-bes
who are only interested in taking more of your money
and y'all fools should hear what so-and-so said,
so-and-so said, so-and-so, uh, so-and-so, uh, did this here,
uh, so-and-so said this here, uh, we need to get ours,
uh, where's our check, where's our check?
Matter of fact, all y'all talking all this shit,
how many of y'all call your congressional member
about H.R. 40?
Lord have mercy.
See,
since y'all wanted to invite hashtag team whip that ass to today's
show,
I decided
to unleash it.
Lord have mercy.
Show me
the proof of you calling
your member of Congress
every single day, five days
a week, encouraging them
to pass H.R. 40.
Show me.
Show me what all the fake-ass
YouTube historians y'all follow.
Show me how they mobilize and organize
people to actually get
that voted on. Since y'all
want to run your mouths.
Mm-hmm.
I thought so.
Y'all mighty damn quiet.
Punk-ass
truth seeker, you ain't
seeking nothing right now
because you saw today's clip and you got it.
And he's a proxy
for a whole bunch of y'all.
So y'all can stop
sending me these stupid tweets
with all the Asian goddails
and we ain't got all of us.
Please, by all means,
show me the Asian-specific bill.
By all means.
And see,
all y'all fools
who said,
Roland, you wrong.
We can't have.
No, no, you wrong.
No, everybody else
got specific bills.
That $5 billion?
Why they getting sued
by white farmers?
Say that.
Come on, Rowland.
Right there.
Put that right there.
Make sure people understand what you about to say.
See, all y'all punk asses talking all this trash.
I told y'all what happens when you do that.
That's right.
So since y'all keep saying
they need to sign a law specific to black people,
again,
why they getting sued by white farmers?
Saying you can't set aside $5 billion
for non-white farmers.
It's unfair to us.
Even though we know
less than 1%
of the more than $50 billion
that went to those farmers under Trump
only went to black farmers.
See, it's amazing what happens
when you actually read shit.
My daddy watched damn near 6- seven hours of news a day.
Read the paper backwards and forwards.
That's where I got it from.
So, excuse me, I actually read.
I actually listen.
I'm not one of you derelicts
who listen to folks with bad lace fronts and listen to other
incompetent wannabe
economists
and listen
to folk who just run
off at the mouth but who don't actually
teach you civics.
If you want something, pick the phone up.
Call.
Show up.
You ain't got to come to D.C.
Take your ass down to the district office.
Every member of the House has a district office.
You ever visit it?
You ever drove by it?
Every United States senator
has multiple offices
in the state. Have you
been there? Have you visited?
Do you know your face?
Don't tell me I know
what I'm talking about.
Mama and Daddy did it.
I spoke before the city council in Houston.
I rode the bus with my mama
with the metropolitan organization down to Austin
when they had a rally.
I went down with my mama and my daddy
when they went before school boards
and city council meetings.
Who the hell y'all think y'all talking to?
You don't think I understand how public policy works?
How activism works?
How mobilization works?
I do.
That's what we share on this show.
But too many of y'all want to sit on YouTube and Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and bitch and moan.
And what y'all going to do?
What y'all going to do?
What you going to do?
It's great.
It's education time. And bottom line, Greg,
I'm sick and tired of these people. Again,
listen to folk
who are preying on their emotions,
who are doing the same,
they doing the same thing to y'all
that Trump's doing.
Pushing your racial buttons
and you end up attacking black people
who are actually fighting for you.
Y'all can go ahead and comment before I go to break.
Go on ahead. Greg Reesey Mustafa.
I just co-signed, brother. Reading is fundamental.
That's what they said to us when we were growing up.
And my daddy was like, yo, daddy,
my daddy worked that shift at the VA hospital.
Come home, read that paper.
Front to back, back to front.
And a lot of y'all understand that because you got people like that in your families.
We all understand why everybody's feeling that way.
It's out of our pain.
Our people have been persecuted for centuries.
So this isn't an attack on their pain. It's a reminder
as John Henry Clark used to say, don't just get mad, get smart.
We can do this, but we're going to have to do it.
Everything. What did A. Philip Randolph say?
Whatever you get at that table, you have to take. And then you got to keep it.
This is a war. It's been
a war since the first person who
looked like you put their hands on you
on the coast of Africa. And Black
people sold Black people into slavery. Let's get rid of that too.
Guess what? No supply,
no demand, no supply. It wouldn't have
been no fights over there if it hadn't been a boat
sitting up there with some people who are open enemies
and now their children's children
are the ones shooting you in the face in the streets
and trying to pass legislation
to keep you out. And if you don't think
calling and protesting and doing all
this stuff isn't effective, ask yourself
this. Why
are they working so hard to
stop you from voting?
Because they understand.
It's up to us to understand now.
Recy?
Dr. Carr, I think what he said,
it's not an attack on your pain.
That is so key.
It's not an attack on your pain.
I understand, like Dr. Carr says,
why people feel like black people are left out.
We are left out all the time.
But let's focus on the battles
that we still have yet to win.
We're not sitting up here comparing shit
that we already got decades ago.
Is it as effective as it could be?
No. And neither is this new COVID-19
hate crimes bill going to be, okay?
So let's focus on what's still left to do.
Let's focus on putting one more tooth
in that mouth, you know, of these two-foot bills.
That's right. That's right. Let's focus on
who are our real
enemies. There are real
enemies, okay?
Almost 100% of the Republican Party,
we can't even get them to say two plus two equals four
and y'all up on the CBC's
ass every time I turn around.
So let's focus on the people
that are actually standing in the way
of us getting our justice,
of us making progress
and quit being distracted by
the clickbait, being distracted by
the memes,
by the tweets that are miscaptioned and the images and the headlines
and the disinformation and the YouTube scholars.
And let's actually educate ourselves
on what the solutions are,
who are the people pushing those solutions
and who are the people on the opposite side
and mobilizing that way.
Because like Dr. Carr always says,
the individual is not going to be
that we have to collectively come together.
And the sooner that we become a we,
instead of foreign factions on Twitter,
we will start to make progress, period.
That's right.
Mustafa?
Black folks, we are incredibly powerful,
but we deplete our power when we don't educate ourselves,
when we don't understand the systems and where the
leverage points are. I worked for John Conyers for two years. In the nighttime, at the end of the day,
John would come in and he would say, who called in today? Who emailed in today? What were their
concerns? Were they supporting HR 676, the universal health care bill that we were working on, and a number
of other things. Did anybody call in and ask about reparations and the bills that I'm introducing
to actually address that issue? You have power, but we give it away. We give it away to folks
all the time. Recy shared with you. I wanted to take notes while you were talking, because
if we would actually understand our power and we would continue to utilize it in this moment,
the midterms is a blink away.
What are you doing?
How are you getting prepared?
Who else are you educating to maximize that power?
If you want to actually make sure, one,
make sure you're supporting these brothers and sisters
who are fighting for you.
On Capitol Hill, it is a shark game that's going on up there. They need your support. The administration needs your support
to push them to go as far as they possibly can. If they turn around and there's nobody pushing them,
then they can't say, I got a million folks. So let's do this. Let's have a million black folks
over the next week call the folks on Capitol Hill, email to folks on Capitol Hill.
And as Roland said, or make sure you're stopping by if you got your mask on, because I still think
black folks need to wear masks. You go by their district offices and just say, you know what,
I just want to share with you what my expectations are of the member. And I'm going to support that
member if they're moving in that direction. That's what power looks like.
If you want the resources that the federal government
actually has, you got to get engaged in that.
These dollars that are going to flow from the federal
down to the state, to the counties, and to the locals,
you got to be engaged in that process.
If you don't, those dollars are going to go to the folks
who are engaged in the process.
And I'm just, like'm just, I'm just like,
I got some dumb ass Maurice Arrington called the CBC for not speaking out
against what ears are doing to the Palestinians.
Dumb ass.
Cori Bush talked about that on the floor of the car.
Don't say it, Roland.
Don't say it.
Y'all are pressed.
They talked about that.
See, this was how stupid some of y'all are.
Y'all just sit here and just tweet.
Just dumb stuff. Don't, don sit here and just tweet just dumb stuff.
Don't respond to him, Roland. Roland,
maybe I'll say this right, because you should start
with this. Just dumb. I just want to say this
right quick, brother. One of the proudest
moments I've had watching
C-SPAN and watching, when I saw Cori Bush,
Rashida Tlaib,
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
when I saw them stand up the
other day,
one after the other,
and put that Palestinian issue in,
this is why people say,
all the parties are the same, they don't vote.
Then you didn't even watch.
Don't get, look, now I'm getting mad like you.
Let me calm down.
Ignore that, Roland, because it happened, okay?
If you want to know, go look it up.
Go watch Roland Martin Unfiltered.
They all listed right there,
and you can watch the video. But don't even,
don't argue with people.
This is how ignorance works. Reese just said,
you throw something out there, and people start arguing, and before you know it,
you've been distracted from the theft.
Right. So, again,
so, dumbass Maurice Arrington,
and all y'all trash in the CBC,
this is called
Exhibit A for Idiots.
...of military occupation.
In Sheikh Jarrah, the Israeli government is violently dispossessing
yet another neighborhood of Palestinian families
from homes they have lived in for decades.
We cannot stand idly and complicitly by
and allow the occupation and oppression of the Palestinian people to continue.
We cannot remain silent when our government... Anybody else want
an ass whooping today?
I got lots of spare
ass whoopings at the office
today. Anybody else want
one today? You know what?
I'm going to tell y'all something
that my daddy once
told me, and I know he watching
and he got mad because I was
talking too much in class
and a teacher called
the house and was like
your son talking too much in class
now me personally I think my dad should be
apologizing to me because I was
practicing
then for what I do
now so Because I was practicing then for what I do now.
So, you know, I'm just saying.
I mean, I was practicing, Daddy.
But my dad said, he said, man, if you don't shut your mouth in class,
I'm going to stomp a mud hole in your ass.
And I stood there and I was like, damn, what's a mud hole?
That's a black man right there.
Because, you know, I saw a movie the other day.
Matter of fact, the movie where Morgan Freeman played the pimp,
and they were on the basketball court,
and he jammed his brother up who blocked his shot,
and he said the same thing.
He said, I'm going to slap a mud hole in your ass.
And I was like, where that?
I said, that's got to be a black man phrase.
I'm going to slap a mud hole in your ass.
And so any of y'all out here want to keep tweeting me and posting nonsense,
I'll be happy to start some mud holes in your asses.
Because I'm just tired of this.
I'm just tired of this.
I'm just...
Stop him, Reese and Mustafa.
Please, stop him.
I'm just tired of this, man.
I want to say one more thing.
To Dr. Carr's point,
were you watching?
I need us to challenge ourselves
to move beyond what goes viral. That's point, were you watching? I need us to challenge ourselves to move beyond what goes viral.
That's why we...
I'm kind of preaching to the choir a little bit
because you're watching Roland Martin.
I thought you were seeing this.
But please stop just focusing on what goes viral.
If you care about an issue,
follow the people that are talking about the issue.
Ayanna Pressley is not going to go viral for that.
Cori Bush is not going to go viral for that.
Doesn't mean I didn't speak about it.
So any issue that you claim to care about,
seek out the issue and seek out the people
talking about those issues, and then you help that go viral
instead of just waiting until it makes it to a meme
on the Shade Room or Bottle Alert
on your favorite YouTube channel.
You need to challenge yourselves and step up your game.
And as Mustafa said, educate ourselves.
We are our own worst enemies because we claim to care about issues,
but yet we don't want to do any of the legwork to even inform ourselves
or support the people who are actually pushing us forward on those issues.
And let me be real clear.
This is also what happens when y'all spend y'all time listening to gossip channels. Mm.
This is what happens when y'all spend y'all time
listening to dating channels.
And y'all caught up.
All this debate.
I'm so tired.
Y'all, I'm so tired of these fools
talking about what's a high net worth man,
a high net worth woman.
Oh.
When if some of y'all were real honest.
So y'all don't really want me to go there.
I know my frat brother Major is waiting, but y'all don't really want me to go there.
Because y'all love sitting here talking about, you know, you start, you listen to mess. You listen, I'm just going to go old school black.
See, you listen to mess.
You listen to mess.
See, this is what happened when y'all spend y'all time
just talking about, you know, well,
I want a high net worth man.
I want a high net worth woman. I want a high net worth woman
when your own mama and daddy couldn't make your list.
Yeah, y'all don't want me to have that show one day, do y'all?
Matter of fact, I might go ahead and do that.
I might go ahead and do that.
Well, I might as well have an hour dating show
and just go ahead and just barrel through some of y'all
nonsense because it's just
dumb. But see,
when you got folk who go,
man, I can't
stand, you know, we don't know what's going on,
but see, when you spend your time
listening to gossip,
when you spend your time on mess,
see, that's what happens
when you do that.
Whole bunch of y'all caught up in Kwame Brown
and Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes
acting like some damn 10-year-olds,
posting videos, threatening each other,
talking about each other.
Yeah, I don't cover that bullshit here.
I don't.
I don't give a damn who J-Lo's sleeping with right now.
I don't care.
I don't care who the hell somebody dating.
I don't care.
That's why you don't get that mess on this show.
Now, if y'all want to go listen to y'all want to go listen to
gossip with lace fronts
go on right ahead
there's nothing wrong with
lace fronts, Roland
no, no, no, bad lace fronts
gossip with lace fronts
bad lace fronts
bad lace fronts, yeah
if y'all want to go listen
if y'all want to go listen to people
who only get views
when they mention my name,
go ahead.
If y'all want to go listen to people
who want to call folk coons and everything else,
y'all go right ahead.
Not here.
You're going to get educated here.
You're going to learn something here. You're going to learn something here.
And what you're not going to do is come here with that BS
because we know they ain't read nothing.
All they're doing is pressing your emotional buttons
and you are responding accordingly.
So take this as a warning.
If you come at Uncle Roro,
don't come here with foolishness.
Because I'm going to check you.
I'm going to hit you square in your eyes with some facts.
And then I'm going to purposely call your name
so everybody know you a fool.
So that's why that dude Maurice,
yeah, they all gonna know your name, Maurice.
They're gonna
know how dumb you are that you don't know how to use
Google.
Because all your dumbass,
this is my last point
before Major,
if your dumbass
had just, let me just
show your dumbass how it's done.
I mean, just for y'all.
And I know somebody out there rolling you cussing,
and my daddy probably said,
son, you cussing.
I don't...
Let me show you idiots what I just did.
For the fool who said,
why the CBC ain't said nothing about Israel.
Go to my computer. Went to Twitter. And there was a fool who said, why the CBC ain't said nothing about Israel? Go to my computer.
Went to Twitter.
And there was a fool who sent me a tweet.
Went to Twitter.
I typed in Ayanna Pressley.
Hmm.
I clicked.
Matter of fact, I didn't even have to click videos.
So dumbass Maurice Arringtonton who sent me that stupid tweet.
Maurice,
I typed in
one of the 59
members of the Black Caucus.
My God,
look at the first post
that came up.
Waleed Shaheed posted it.
It's right there.
Right there.
Up, scroll to the second one.
Ayanna Pressley questions USA to Israel.
Oh, question the third one.
Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib,
Ayanna Pressley, and Cori Bush voice support of Palestine
in speeches to Congress.
Guess what, dumbass Maurice?
Three of them
are members of the CBC.
Tlaib, Bush,
and Presley.
But your simple, silent
ass
can't even use
basic damn search functions.
Again,
anybody else
would like for me to stomp a mud hole in your ass, please, by all means, step up.
I'll be back with my frat brother Major on Rolling Mountain Unfiltered.
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So here's the deal.
A lot of y'all have been asking.
Erica Wilson, who was Erica, normally is on our Thursday panel.
Erica was in a major car accident, y'all.
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We almost lost Erica.
That's how serious this car accident
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I told Erica if you need something holla,
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So we got her Cash app
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We definitely miss Erica on the show.
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So we just want to go ahead and keep praying for her again, y'all,
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Mustafa, my daddy said he liked that hat.
So I don't want to let you, my daddy said he liked that hat. I don't want to let you know.
He said he liked that hat.
He'll be sending me texts
while I'm sitting here working.
I want to give you that shout out.
Y'all be sending stuff, my lord.
Y'all be sending stuff to the show.
Reesey. Hey, Chelsea,
bring me them blankets.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh. Y'all, black people, I love bring me them blankets. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
Y'all, black people, look, I love the RMU family.
Y'all be hooking us up.
Y'all be so, I mean, I told y'all, yeah,
bring me that cane in my office.
Greg, you sold the cane, Greg?
No.
Greg, somebody sent me a Roland Martin unfiltered alpha cane.
I don't need it.
There's such a thing?
That sounds nice.
No, she made it.
So y'all, bring me that box on the front desk
with those crocheted blankets in it, and bring me my, uh,
yeah, bring me the cane out the office.
Y'all, seriously, folks be sending me, um, OK.
OK, let me do this here.
It's got a curve on the top.
Hey, dawg, yeah, it's one of them old school, it's one of them old school, uh, and let me, I need to do this here. It's got a curve on the top. Hey, dawg. Yeah, it's one of them old school.
It's one of them old school.
And let me, I need to show this too.
Remember I told y'all Angela Brock, Angela Brock,
I told y'all she'd get the $100 check.
So Angela's daughter is a journalist.
OK, I got to give her a shout out.
So let me, let me, where's all my stuff up here?
All right, here the cane. All right, so let me wear all my stuff up here. All right, here the cane.
All right, so let me read this.
Y'all, I told y'all my black people be hooking us up.
Control room, y'all just hold on.
I know we going over time, but it's all good.
Y'all, so she sent this.
My name is Angela Brock, native Washingtonian,
huge fan and avid watcher of Roma Unfiltered.
Enclosed her check for $100.
I learned so much from your panel discussions,
guests and commentary.
A day doesn't go by without me spreading the message
to my friends, family and clients about the knowledge
that I get from your show.
Hold on, let me see this again.
And pull it up right here.
And she said,
Henry, you got that?
You got that?
So she said,
I've also enclosed a T-shirt for you
that my daughter Angel Brock designed.
She is selling these shirts to get the,
drop the lower third.
She is selling these shirts to get the message out
that America needs black journalists,
now more than ever.
Her story as a news producer in local news in today's society
is interesting within itself.
She understands your plight and is passionate about the black agenda.
Read her reason for designing this shirt on the enclosed note card.
And then her website is angelbrocktv.com.
She's a news producer who received the White House Correspondents Award.
She is doing great things in her career.
Her mama, Angela Brock. So that's the shirt I wore on yesterday's
show. And so
I just want to give her a shout out.
And so Greg, one of the guests
made this here. This
has Roland Martin unfiltered.
It has Roland Martin and it has on the other side
black and gold. Mustafa, you're
a fellow alpha too. Has A5A
on it. And so yeah, she made you're a fellow alpha, too. Has A5A on it.
And so, yeah, she made that.
And Reesey, did the sister put her name in here?
Hold on, did she put it right here?
All right, so I can't make out her name.
Hi, Mr. Martin, could you please give these two blankets
to Miss Reesey, or her new baby girl.
If you're not able to, would you please donate them?
So I'm going to send them to Reese, y'all.
I got to mail them to Reese.
So Reese, this is one of the blankets.
This person crocheted for your new baby.
That's that blanket right there.
And I guess they hedged their bets because they figured that was going to be a boy.
So they went ahead and made two.
So this is the pink one.
Oh, I love it.
Right here.
So I'm going to mail those to you and get them to you.
Thank you.
So to our fans, I appreciate y'all for supporting
what we do.
And thanks a lot.
I'm going to see y'all tomorrow.
Reese and Mustafa, Greg, thanks a lot. I'm going to see y'all tomorrow.
Reese and Mustafa, Greg, thanks a bunch.
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