#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Call For White Women To Rally for Harris, Harris Endorsements, Sonya Massey Bodycam Released

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

7.23.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Call For White Women To Rally for Harris, Harris Endorsements, Sonya Massey Bodycam Released  Black men and women have rallied behind Vice President Kamala Harris' ...presidential campaign.  A white woman is trying to get white women to do the same.  I'll talk to Shannon Watts about her challenge to those who have primarily voted Republican since the 1950s.  Kamala Harris was on the campaign trail today as she picked up two major endorsements from Sen., Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader. Hakeem Jeffries.   The family of a black Illinois woman who called for help ended up being shot in the face by a sheriff's deputy who is now facing murder charges.   We'll show you the bodycam video of when Sonya Massey was killed in her own home.   The president of the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives about another unarmed black person getting killed by law enforcement. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Martin! Today is Tuesday, July 23rd, 2024. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network. Black men and women have called a rally behind Vice President Kamala Harris's presidential campaign. Now a white woman says it's time for white women to stand up as well. I'll talk to Shannon Watts about her focus to get win with white women campaign started. Can't look for that conversation. Speaking of the vice president, she's on the campaign trail today as she
Starting point is 00:02:46 picked up two major endorsements from Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. The family of a black Illinois woman who called for help and she ended up being murdered by sheriff's deputies at Jeppes now facing murder charges will show you the body cam footage of
Starting point is 00:03:03 when Sonia Massey was killed in her own home president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives will talk about this tragic tragic case folks it's time to bring the funk i'm roland martin unfiltered on the black star network let's go Whatever the piss, he's on it Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine And when it breaks, he's right on time And it's rolling Best belief he's knowing Putting it down from sports to news to politics
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Starting point is 00:04:37 seeking Democratic nomination. Now, Latinos and white women say, guess what? It is time for us to unify. Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand, posted this on social media. She said, time to organize a white women's conference call like the black women and men have. They have to support Vice President Kamala Harris. Who's in? Well, Shannon joins us right now.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Shannon, glad to have you back on Roland Martin Unfiltered. So you saw this energy going on and you posted a series of tweets that I thought were so important where you said, white women, it's time for us to step up. Well, Roland, thank you so much for having me on. But more than that, thank you for all of your amazing work and your leadership on this. It's truly been, you know, informative you for all of your amazing work and your leadership on this. It's truly been informative. We stand on your shoulders. We stand on the shoulders of Win With Black Women. There was a clear clarion call on that call with so many black women and then so many
Starting point is 00:05:37 black men, and that was, white women, it's your turn. And it is our turn to use our economic power, our political power to make sure that Kamala Harris wins. And it's a little bit more than that, too, which is we all know white women haven't been voting the right way. They haven't been voting to protect all Americans instead of their own communities and their own families. And they need to get outside of their bubble. We have voted for the Republican presidential candidate in every single presidential race except for two since the 1950s. So we have a lot of catching up to do. And I think we can do that when we come together to support the
Starting point is 00:06:18 movement as a whole. So this is one initial call that we're hosting on Thursday night to, again, tap into the economic and political power of white women, to educate them and to deploy them to help Kamala Harris win. But at the end of the day, we are all one movement. You know, one of the things that jumped out as I was listening to you talk, and I go back, 2016, 52% of white women voted for Donald Trump. After all the things that he said and all the things that he did, that number went up in 2020. Yeah. What do you think, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:06:55 Well, I mean, we live in a racist, sexist society. We know that. And unfortunately, when you have someone who is a fear monger, like Donald Trump, who lies and who pretends as though he is helping people when he's actually hurting them, and then you combine that with women who are—white women who are steeped in this patriarchy, in this racism, then it's sort of the recipe for electoral disaster. And that's what we saw in those election cycles. It is incumbent, though, I think, on white women who voted the right way to galvanize, educate, and convert that other 52% or so of white women who did not vote the right way
Starting point is 00:07:48 and that happens in our communities that happens in our homes you know that happens in conversations with our fathers and brothers and sons to push back and to be independent thinkers and independent voters and it is also about making sure we're at the grocery store or we're at childcare or we're dropping off and picking up our kids. We aren't shying away from these conversations. We are thinking about and talking about the destruction and havoc a Trump presidency would wreak. And it really is, if we can shift even just some of these women who voted the wrong way the last time and bring them back and get them to help support Kamala Harris, we win. But I think, yes, we need those women who voted the wrong way to vote the right way, but we also need the women who voted
Starting point is 00:08:35 the right way to do the work. This isn't going to happen if you make one donation. It's not going to happen if you have one conversation. If you show up for one call, you have to be in this for the long haul. And no, it doesn't end even the day after Kamala Harris is elected president. We have to keep doing the work. Alice Walker said, you know, activism is the rent I pay to live on the planet. And it's something that we as white women need to get out of our bubble and get used to doing. Well, the other day, unfortunately, the man who was killed at the Donald Trump rally, when his wife talked, she said that Vice President Joe Biden reached out, but she wouldn't take his phone call.
Starting point is 00:09:21 She said because her husband was a hardcore Republican and he wouldn't want her to do that. And I remember seeing some comments from white women saying, see, this is the problem. We have a lot of white women who literally just do whatever their husbands tell them to do. And I've heard that a lot that, oh, husband says we're voting this way, we're voting this way.
Starting point is 00:09:48 You agree with that? Well, I think it's egregious, so I don't agree with it in that sense, but I do agree that that is what happens sometimes. You know, Brittany Packnett Cunningham has this amazing quote about white women who sort of do the bidding of white men, and it is that the patriarchy won't save you. Your whiteness won't save you from what
Starting point is 00:10:10 the patriarchy has in store for you, right? Like, if you think that voting the way your husband votes is going to somehow help and protect you, it's absolutely not true. In fact, look what happens with Donald Trump as president. Look what's happened to the Supreme Court. Look what's happened to our reproductive rights and freedoms. Look what's happened to the Supreme Court. Look what's happened to our reproductive rights and freedoms. Look what's happened to our safety when it comes to gun violence. President Biden has done an amazing job of trying to protect people, but so much damage was done and so much more destruction will happen if we vote Donald Trump into office again. So this idea that somehow you are protected if you vote the way a man, a white man tells you to vote is so incredibly misguided. And I think, again,
Starting point is 00:10:52 that white women who are on the right side of this issue are very well equipped to have those conversations of conversion. We know these women, right? We're friends with them. We're their daughters. We're their sisters. We're in their neighborhood. And we have to be uncomfortable. We have to get comfortable being uncomfortable. What has been the response so far from your clarion call? It has been overwhelming. You know, I think there's a real feeling, particularly among black women, of like, OK, you know, it is your time to shine. Come together. Do what we have done on these calls.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And then, you know, don't organize yourself separately as white women. Don't create an organization. Don't make this the movement. Have this moment. Have this call. Do what we have done. And then let's come together to make sure that Kamala Harris wins. And that's exactly what we intend to do. In fact, there's talk after this call that we're having, and you mentioned other calls, Latino women and Southeast Asian women and on and on are all having similar discussions where they're raising money and educating, then we all come together and, you know, really do the work, roll up our sleeves, and in the next 100 days, elect Kamala Harris as president. You're absolutely right. We have seen the information. You know, Anna Navarro was on the Black Women, win with Black women call and she was like, hey, y'all need to help us Latinas to do this, well guess what? That call is actually taking place
Starting point is 00:12:34 and that's actually happening tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern and they sent that out though. So it's just very interesting just watching the energy but what it also says, Shannon, it also says somebody has to start it. I always talk about movements. And the reality is you found it in Mom's Demand. And listen, y'all went from this to this. What I'm always saying is a movement has to start with one person and one idea
Starting point is 00:13:02 who tells another person, who tells another person, who tells another person, then it exponentially grows. And that's really what happened here. Those black women, they've been meeting for four years. Now I know that because I know many of those women and I know they've been meeting every Sunday night. And all of a sudden, that thing, and even they said they were not prepared for that thing to go viral normally
Starting point is 00:13:26 their meeting is closed and off the record and they were just shocked and stunned how viral it went and then of course brothers when they called me and said hey man we got to do something then that happened on Monday and now you're seeing this but this is what I'm always trying to explain to people no movement begins without an idea and that's what we mean by taking a moment and turning it into a movement. Yes, that's exactly right. And you mentioned the word energy. I am old enough to remember what it felt like when I knew that Barack Obama was going to be the candidate and the president. This feels very much like that.
Starting point is 00:14:03 It feels like such a historic moment, such a novel moment, given the way we got here. And I think we can ride this energy all the way to November and handily elect Kamala Harris. But as you said, everybody needs to have this idea. It isn't just me or any woman or any person who decides we're going to create this big movement to support people. That matters, but maybe not even as much as the little movements in your life, right? The decision to have the conversation with the woman who you know about would have for Donald Trump last time and to have an open conversation and try to persuade that person
Starting point is 00:14:42 or your family or whoever it is, like those little micro movements are just as important as the big movements because you never know when your words will stick with someone and help change their minds. And that includes knocking doors, making calls, sending postcards, doing what I call the unglamorous heavy lifting of grassroots activism. That is how Kamala Harris will win. It is not by white women sitting on the sidelines. Shannon Watts, we appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Thank you. All right, going to go to break. We come back, chat with our panel. You're watching Rolling Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene, a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence.
Starting point is 00:15:26 On that soil, you will not replace us. White people are losing their damn lives. There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash.
Starting point is 00:16:03 This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white people. Good job, good pay, good life. Would you be willing to walk away from it to achieve real wealth? Well, that's exactly what this woman did. And boy, did it pay off.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Once you make the decision that this is the direction that you're going to go in, I do believe that there's power in having a decided heart. Hear her story on the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's Wealth Coach, on Blackstar Network. Bruce Smith, creator and executive producer of Proud Family, Louder and Prouder. You're watching Roland Martin Unkilled. Folks, we are seeing tremendous, as we said, energy taking place all across the country. And as a result of the change on Sunday when President Joe Biden announced that he was not going to be seeking the reelection,
Starting point is 00:17:40 it has been a remarkable, remarkable two and a half days for Vice President Kamala Harris as she held an event today, as she, of course, spoke to the campaign staff on yesterday, as we see what is happening over and over and over. And it has been blowing folks away. I just got an email where Reed Hastings, the founder of Netflix, has contributed $7 million to a super PAC. Those major Democratic donors have ponied up almost $200 million since Sunday evening. And, of course, the small donors, more than $100 million raised through ActBlue, and 62% of all those dollars, first-time donors. My panel is Randy Bryant,
Starting point is 00:18:30 DEI disruptor out of Washington, D.C., Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for environmental justice at the EPA in Washington, D.C., Joy Chaney, founder of Joy Strategies out of D.C. I'm gonna start with you, Joy. When you, again, look at that intensity from, that intensity from that
Starting point is 00:18:57 Win With Black Women call, and then you see the call that took place on yesterday, last night with the brothers. 53,000 brothers. Matter of fact, let me get the correct number. Let me see here. The number of actual participants, 53,862. Folks would be shocked at that number, Joy. You know, they would be shocked by that number, but we are not. First of all, Roland, you called them, so they were coming. But Joteka,
Starting point is 00:19:37 Edie, and Holly Holiday called black women beforehand, four years ago. And when they called, they didn't know who was coming. I think they started with 20 or so people. I joined about a year in. And we've been meeting ever since. We've met through Ketanji Brown-Jackson. We've met through, really, Kamala Harris. We've met over and over again. And now we are meeting as she is moving into the role of Democratic nominee. It's just an example of you just have to go out there on faith and then know that if you're doing the right thing and you're creating a space that people are going to answer, if you build it, they will come. And that is what has happened. And now we're seeing our Latina sisters,
Starting point is 00:20:22 our white sisters, our Asian American sisters come. We're seeing, hopefully, our brothers of all those nationalities come as well. Anyone who's seeking to separate us is going to make a mistake this time. As Ms. Watts had on Shannon before, this is feeling awfully like Obama. And earlier on, we are ready. This is the moment our nation has been waiting on. Here's the thing here. Here's the thing here for me, Mustafa,
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Starting point is 00:24:08 that iconic phrase, if you build it, they will come. And what I'm always trying to say to people is that stop complaining about we need this, we need that. Start it. Start it. Start it. And once you start it and you tell some other people,
Starting point is 00:24:32 you never know how it's going to blow up. And that to me I think is one of the big problems here, Mustafa. People are afraid to start. They're afraid to, Jamal Bryant said something the other day that who was the Bahamian pastor who passed away in the airline crash? Oh, it's escaping me. Miles Monroe.
Starting point is 00:24:54 He said, Miles Monroe would often say, the place in the world with the greatest ideas is the cemetery because so many people were afraid to actually live their dreams out. That's powerful. You know, I'm reminded also, Sam Jackson says, why don't you raise a ruckus and you can make a change? You might not be popular, but by the end of the day, you'll be able to see how things have actually moved forward.
Starting point is 00:25:25 You know, last night was incredible. The night before was incredible. I was blessed to be able to listen in a little bit. Man, it was crazy. So my man Kenan just hit me and said, people are still registering and watching the replay on StreamYard. So we've added an additional 1,100 folks who've registered. That's crazy. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:25:49 There's a hunger, right? There is a hunger in our community and beyond our community to make real change happen and to be a part of it. And often folks do wait until somebody lights the match, if you will, that initial flame to get folks going. You know, when I was, it was amazing because I hadn't felt this way in a long time. The last time I did, I was a student organizer for a Million Man March. And when we were in that sea of blackness, of all these amazing black men who were committing to their community to do the things that were necessary to make change happen was one of those moments in the not-so-distant past. And then last night, to once again to be surrounded by all of these folks who are committed, committed in action, committed in actually making and giving resources.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And you all know who are watching this show, to get black folks to give up their money means that they got to feel and know that there is something real that's right there. And you could feel that energy. But it wasn't just about energy. It was about actually taking tangible actions and strengthening those black men's organizations who are actually out there on the ground, knocking on doors and talking to folks, making sure the resources make it to the vice president so that she has what she needs to deal with all the things that are going to come to her. But as you said before, it all starts with that first person who says, you know what, we can do this, and reaching your hands out.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And, you know, I wrote that poem that a whole bunch of people have talked about today, where you've got these Black men in that moment who are interlocking their hands, placing their arms virtually around each other, and saying, no matter what comes, we are going to stand with this sister. We are going to protect her. We're going to uplift her. And yes, once she is elected,
Starting point is 00:27:44 we are going to hold her accountable We're going to uplift her. And, yes, once she is elected, we are going to hold her accountable. But in this moment, we demand to make sure that she has the opportunity to become the next president of the United States. And we are going to play a significant role. And our sisters, who actually helped to lead us by being the first out the door, planted the seed. And then we are going to continue to water that seed. So when others say that they want to be authentic allies in this space, you know, we welcome them. But of course, we are also going to keep our eyes open to make sure that if white women say that they are going to stand in solidarity, then we're going to check to see if that's real. For our Latino brothers and sisters, we're going to make sure the same thing.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So it is a welcoming space where we all have the opportunity to actually make these ideals that America has talked about for hundreds of years become a reality by making sure that the next president of the United Party doing what they do. I saw this video where, and this representative from Tennessee always is showing how racist he is. And you got the usual people. And boy, these Republicans, you know, you can't say the N-word publicly, but they sure can't say DEI. And so listen to Larry Cutlow on Fox talking to that idiot Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And of course, her whole history is DEI, diversity, exclusion and equity. I mean, inclusion and equity. I mean, what does that tell you? It's totally woke and it's anti-cops, among all the other things, putting the economics aside. More DEI, defund the police, eliminate ICE, never even talk to the chiefs of the border patrol. I mean, really? How's she going to stand up to that? Well, she's for globalization. She's for one world government. She's for this country going the way of socialism, maybe even farther than that. There's no way the American people are going to go for that. They're going to have to do a great selling job, and she's going to have to change her tune.
Starting point is 00:30:09 But she's not able to do that. She is from California. She believes in that nonsense that they've put that great state of California in. And we've seen what's happened there. They've almost, they have put them under. We bailed them out several times from the federal government. So it's not going to be easy.
Starting point is 00:30:25 It's going to be hard because we know what we're fighting is trying to get President Trump across the finish line. But thank God he's safe, and let's go. Thank you, Senator Tommy Turnbull. They are just going on and on and on, Randy. And again, Tim Burchette, Burchett, that's who it is. I'm going to try to find his little comment. And it's the usual little nonsense that they're trying to play. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I mean, DEI is the new N-word. And there is this assumption that if a woman or a person of color has made it to any level of success, that it must be something that was granted to them and something that they do not deserve, which is based on white supremacist ideals. It's insulting, as I have watched the last 72 hours and what's been going on. And, of course, I'm reading the insults thrown. In fact, hold on, Randy. I want you to finish your point, but I want to play you a Burchette had to say. So listen to this.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Biden said, first off, he said he's going to hire a black female for vice president. And that not just skipped over. What about what about white females? What about any other group? Just when you go down that route, you take mediocrity, and that's what they have right now as a vice president. Are you suggesting she was a DEI hire? 100%. She was a DEI hire. He said he was going to hire, and then she didn't.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Her record is abysmal at best. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, whatever, Tim Burchett. Go right ahead. Right, and again, I mean, it is so interesting to me that white men are immediately assumed to have the qualifications. How people who have a felon and almost a failed businessman as their leader could dare suggest that highly accomplished Kamala Harris as a DEI hire is incredibly insulting, but it certainly is not new.
Starting point is 00:32:32 This is what we women, we Black people face every single day, that it's not that we're good enough, no matter how much education we have and no matter how much experience that we have. And so that's something that we're going to have to confront on this campaign. But it's easy because the differences between the two candidates is large and grand. So I'm going to enjoy tearing people apart when it comes to this. It's a strategy that they're using, but I believe that it's a flimsy strategy because she's too strong. So it's going to be, you know, kind of fun tearing them apart, particularly when you consider the candidate they have. But it's the same. We saw what happened with the FBI leader. Every time,
Starting point is 00:33:15 it's always a DEI failure and decision. And even when they say, what did she do as vice president for Biden? I never heard anyone ask, what did she do as vice president for biden i never heard anyone ask what did biden do when he was president for obama or pence women or pence or quail or or gore uh or chain i mean again that's so hilarious to me everybody knows that the vice president's job is really you just the next in waiting. I mean, come on. But this whole, oh, my God, she's been horrible. Her policies.
Starting point is 00:33:52 But she serves at the behest of the president. Absolutely. That is it. That is it. But we're going to be scrutinized more critically and harshly just for the simple fact that she is a woman and that she is of color all right hold tight one second gotta go to break we come back more on roland martin unfiltered the black star network don't forget support the work that we do join our brina funk fan club senior check and money 20037-0196.
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Starting point is 00:35:32 It's all at curl prep.com. Use code Roland lowercase letters to get a 15% discount. On a next next a balanced life with me dr jackie how are you being of service to others doing for someone beside yourself is such a big part of living a balanced life we'll talk about what that means the generation that missed that message and the price that we're all paying as a result well now all i see is mama getting up in the morning going to work maybe dropping me off at school, then coming back home at night. And then I really didn't have any type of time with the person that really was there to nurture me and prepare me and to show me what a life looked like and what service looked like.
Starting point is 00:36:19 That's all on the next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, here at Blackstar Network. Hey, what's up? Keith Toney in a place to be. Got kicked out your mama's university. Creator and executive producer of Fat Tuesdays, an air hip-hop comedy. But right now, I'm rolling with Roland Martin. Unfiltered, uncut, unplugged, and undamn believable. You hear me? So before I go to my next guest,
Starting point is 00:36:54 you can always count on black people doing extra stuff. So when I'm playing video from my iPad, so when you're on Twitter, what happens is you play the video straight. So normally we download the video, but listen, we rockin' and rollin', you can just play the video straight on Twitter. Now Twitter used to, when you played the video,
Starting point is 00:37:18 it will stop at the end of the video. Well, they changed their algorithm, so now it just jumps to whatever the next video. So when I played that Tim Burchette bite, the next video was two big asses. Actually, it looked like four hams. And it was Jonathan Slocum, the comedian, who of course sent me a text message
Starting point is 00:37:43 where he said, be careful, bro. Go to my iPad. And so he took a screenshot of him watching the show on his Mac computer, and I'm like, Jonathan, this is how this works. I said, but don't worry about it. I said, watch this. It's coming up next. So I think this was really Jonathan just trying to get a shout-out on the show.
Starting point is 00:38:05 So, Jonathan, you got it. All right. I've said here many times that Vice President Kamala Harris is the weapon the Democrats needed. Now that she is headed to become the presidential nominee, it looks like I, along with others, was right. Author and columnist Steve Phillips published this article, Running Kamala Harris May Actually Be a Political Masterstroke for the Democrats. He's the author of Brown is the New White and How We Win the Civil War. He joins us from San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:38:36 OK, Steve, why do you say it's a masterstroke? So it's great to be with you, Roland, and you were 100 percent right on Kamala being the one. So, lost in this concern about the polls, everyone's talking about how badly Biden was doing in the polls, et cetera, is that, ironically or interestingly, his numbers with white people were fine. He had 42 percent support among whites in the CBS poll that had him down four or five points. And that was a thing that I kept emphasizing.
Starting point is 00:39:10 A week after the debate, my man Terrence Woodbury, the top poster, sent me this text message to that point. I'm going to let you finish that, Steve. So he sent me this. I'm trying to pull it up. We were talking about his numbers, and he said, I think Biden still can win this. He said, Democrats gotta stop trashing their own candidate. But what he told me was what you just said about those white numbers.
Starting point is 00:39:35 What he told me then was, this was, everybody think I'm lying, this was July 12th. The date was June 27th. He said, path to victory isth. It was June 27th. He said, path to victory is clear. Biden is winning white seniors, white women, white college, white suburbs. That's about
Starting point is 00:39:53 70% of the electorate, and they are the hardest for Dems to win. Biden was doing better among white voters than Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama. And I said, my biggest concern, Steve, was if they force Biden off the ticket, will that white demographic hold? Now continue. Exactly. And that is the challenge that we're going to have to look to. And so,
Starting point is 00:40:22 but the reason it's a masterstroke is because if, in fact, as those polls were showing, that the number, the percentages of support among people of color was low. They had African-American support at like 73 percent. No Democratic nominee has ever gotten less than 83 percent. And so that was the underlying problem. And so you had Latinos down at like 50-something percent. Biden got 65 percent. So if you can galvanize and mobilize and inspire the voters of color, shore that up, bring up the enthusiasm, that's going to bring the overall numbers back up significantly. I expect, based on what happened with the Black Women Call, the Call You Organized, the Black Men Call, and all these different pieces, I expect that Kamala's going to have Obama-like numbers
Starting point is 00:41:06 among African-Americans, which then gives you a little bit of wiggle room in terms of the white support. You can actually lose a little bit of the white support. You could really go down to around 39, 38 percent. Obama got 39 percent in 2012 in his reelection, but he had such large black support that he was able to carry the day. But I think what people need to understand, and again, this is excitement is one thing, but I think the Dobbs decision is the wild card. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Here's what I mean. We had, of course, we just had Shannon Watson, she's like, white women, we got to step up. So the reason I think the Dobbs decision changes what is historical, 52% of white women went for Donald Trump in 2016. The Dobbs decision has woken a lot of white women up. Exactly. School shootings has as well.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Those white women in Tennessee, those women, they were calling moms demand. Those white women were putting pressure on legislators. And so the unknown here is with Vice President Kamala Harris centering reproductive rights, and we look at all of these special elections, these state referendums, this may be the year with her at the top that causes Republicans to lose less than 50 percent.
Starting point is 00:42:35 If Democrats could shave off three points, white women, game over. Right. A hundred percent. That's what you're talking about. So Dobbs, that progressive vote, the Democratic vote in Kansas, in Ohio, places where Democrats never win, or at least in Kansas, rarely win. In Ohio, very rarely win as well.
Starting point is 00:42:58 The right was stunned. And that's why Donald Trump, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to have a national abortion ban. I'm not going to have it. They are scared to death of the post-Dobbs political fallout. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And so if the progressive, Democratic-backed policies are winning in places like Ohio and Kansas, then this is a different moment. And this is a different period in time. And that Dobbs has waken people up. And so you take that, as well as the larger cultural dynamics in terms of the place, the success of the movie Barbie, Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, the culture is having more embrace of women's perspectives, women's point of view, women's independence. This really could be the
Starting point is 00:43:46 moment to run a woman at the top of the ticket and a woman of color on top of that as even an added benefit. Questions from the panel. Randy, you first. Hi, thanks for being here. What I am wondering when we talk about how we need to just get a few, a small percentage of white women, what do you think the key is to that? I mean, just referencing back to the guests before, what do you think is going to make the difference in that now? Well, I think that the Dobbs piece is the most promising aspect of that. And not only hopeful, but that's the evidence that we're seeing, in that the last time—I mean, we had a moderate Democratic governor in Kansas, but really, we don't win in Kansas.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And so was that a one-off? Democrats have lost statewide, I think, almost every election since 20—since the last time Sherrod Brown ran in Ohio, statewide. And yet that ballot measure around women's reproductive freedom did extremely well and passed. So you take that, and then you juxtapose that with who we're running against, a man who is on tape bragging about grabbing women, a man who has been found civilly liable for sexual assault, a man who has found 34 criminal counts for paying off a porn star. And then you juxtapose that with
Starting point is 00:45:16 this movement around women's rights and women's equality and women's bodily autonomy. That's a very sharp contrast that does give the opportunity to shave off some of that support among white women. Go ahead. I just hope that their memories are long, because it seemed as if there was a lot of rhetoric before the last election. But when it came down to voting, when it actually were more white women voting for Trump, I was absolutely surprised. So I hope that this campaign this year does a good job of reminding white women about Trump's history when it comes
Starting point is 00:45:51 to, and Trump's, you know, what his decisions are now when it comes to women. Yeah, and I think it's actually going to be all of us. And so with, I think you've been talking about it on the show here, but, you know, those of us who were there early in the Obama years, in 07 in particular, this is like that in terms of its feel, it's the movement cause, the intensity of it. And so that level of grassroots enthusiasm is going to also reverberate out and impact other white women, frankly,'ll be in a relationship with them that they have a chance to. Well,
Starting point is 00:46:30 you mentioned the white women call on Thursday. The Latina call tonight. Go to my iPad. South Asian women for Harris, they having a call tomorrow. I mean, so, Steve, again, you're seeing that momentum, how that ball call tomorrow. I mean, so, Steve, again, you're
Starting point is 00:46:45 seeing that momentum, how that ball is rolling. Joy? Yeah, Mr. Phillips, I'm so glad you're on. I agree with so much of what you're saying. I mean, you know, my question for you is, you know, yes, we want to count votes and we want to count
Starting point is 00:47:03 constituencies, but how much of this is about us moving from, yes, we would have won, to us having to blow, being able to blow it out of the ballpark so we can definitively put down this anti-American, anti-democracy, frankly, anti-holy campaign and movement of Donald Trump and MAGA. I feel like we've got to do more than just barely squeaking it out. We would have taken it. But with Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket, we have the ability to put down what has really been a destructive movement in our nation. And frankly, what was creeping across the world and other countries are putting it down, authoritarianism in their worlds, we got to do it in their countries and we got to do it in ours. And this is an opportunity for us to do it with Kamala. Absolutely. There's so much. Isabel Morrison in her book, Caste, talks about comparing what happened with Trump in 2016
Starting point is 00:48:01 to a pathogen being unleashed. And that's what has happened in this country and within this world. And so, if you've seen people like Elon Musk and other people and all these attacks on DEI, et cetera, they have been emboldened and empowered to give rise and give voice to their most pro-white sentiments in ways that people wouldn't have said before. But now to go up against a movement and a candidate who's a woman of color and who's talking about the diversity of the country, unifying people, not this division and hate, it's so inspiring that it is very much like 08 in ways that Obama galvanized the electorate in
Starting point is 00:48:39 ways that had large ripple effects. The House is in play. We really should take back. We should never have lost the House, frankly. The Senate, holding the Senate and then winning the White House, creates an opportunity not just to make history to elect Kamala to the White House, but to pass a policy agenda. All it takes is a majority vote in Congress and the signature of the president to expand the Supreme Court, which has been hijacked by Trump and by the right wing. And then you can move forward a whole significant agenda, a public policy agenda, which speaks to the growing multiracial majority and not to the reactionary and fearful minority. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
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Starting point is 00:52:11 but over the next four to eight years is enormous. That's right. That's right. Oaks Mustafa. Mr. Phillips, thank you for your scholarship. Oaks Mustafa. OAKS MUSTAPHA, OAKS MUSTAPHA CORRESPONDENT, OAKS MUSTAPHA CORRESPONDENT, OAKS MUSTAPHA CORRESPONDENT, OAKS MUSTAPHA CORRESPONDENT, OAKS MUSTAPHA CORRESPONDENT, OAKS MUSTAPHA OAKS MUSTAPHA. MR. PHILLIPS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SCHOLARSHIP. I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO READ A COUPLE OF YOUR BOOKS AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE MOST RECENT
Starting point is 00:52:31 GUARDIAN ARTICLE. YOU KNOW, IN THE TWO PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD WITH THE PANELISTS, I'M CURIOUS. WE TAKE A LOOK BACK TO OBAMA AND HIM DOING HIS DUE DILIGENCE IN DECIDING WHO HIS VICE PRESIDENT WOULD BE AND THROUGH THAT CALCULUS FIGURING OUT IF IT HELPED HIM TO BE ABLE TO Obama and him doing his due diligence and deciding who his vice president would be, and then through that calculus figuring out if it helped him to be able to garner the votes that were going to be necessary. What type of person would be necessary for Vice President Harris to be able to shore up these votes that we've been talking about here over the last few minutes?
Starting point is 00:53:12 So it's not going to be decisive. I mean, as we're seeing over the past, you know, just 48 hours, the momentum and the movement and the transformative nature of Kamala's candidacy in and of itself, I actually believe is going to propel this candidacy and this ticket forward. And so we shouldn't get too hung up on that. So there's a very significant strategic calculation. And I don't frankly know which way to go with it, to be honest with you. It'd be interesting to see. So we can go the traditional route, which would really do what Obama did and choose more of a moderate white man to balance the ticket, calm the fears of white people, and to make a geographic play. So potentially somebody in the Midwest, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And some people are talking about Roy Cooper or Mark Kelly out of Arizona, right? You know, battleground state white guy. Or Andy Beshear out of Kentucky, the governor. Exactly, right. Andy Beshear, where J.D. Vance supposedly is from Appalachia, right? So that's one route. The other route is to do more what Bill Clinton did and double down on the gestalt of the moment. And so rather than balance a ticket, he went with another young white southerner,
Starting point is 00:54:19 which people thought was a crazy idea. But he rode the wave of that moment. And actually, I ran for office in school board in 92. And I know that there was this crazy idea, but he rode the wave of that moment. And actually, I ran for office in school board in 92, and I know that there was this generational call, this generational new leadership stepping forward attitude and mindset throughout the country. And so do you double down and choose a woman, and for all the reasons we were just talking about, and go full bore and really define that ticket on the Republican side as being the anti-women, anti-reproductive choice, anti-bottom-the-autonomy people, which they are, and then ride this enthusiasm of women and potentially bring along more of the white women in that regard as well.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I think either route is defensible, and I think either route will play out, frankly. And so it'll be interesting to see which calculation Kamala and her team makes. Mr. Phillips, can I weigh in on that? Go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to say, you know what? I think you're so right. The real story here is that we have very few bad options.
Starting point is 00:55:21 We have very few bad options here. Many people were ready to vote for Joe Biden, but he's pulled out. Many more people, I think, are ready to vote for Kamala Harris. And then we have fantastic VP candidates, really a deep bench, and that was something that we did not have for a long time in Democrats. We have a deep bench, deep bench. You want someone a little older, we got Roy Cooper. You want younger, we got Josh Shapiro, Andy Beshear. You want someone middle of the road who's a senator who has this Americana astronaut, we got Senator Kelly. And then we also, of course,
Starting point is 00:55:57 have Gretchen Whitmer. She said she's pulling out, but you never know. You never know. We love that she is a campaign co-chair. There are no bad options here. What you know is that we're ready for something new as a nation. We're ready to move into a new era. And so that's what's so exciting. And people feel it. And you are right. It feels like when we elected Barack Obama. We're ready. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this isn't the main point, but we should, you know, keep in mind those of us who have a race conscious analysis that I think there's a lot to argue for Whitmer as the VP. And if she runs as VP and if they win the White House, then the lieutenant
Starting point is 00:56:37 governor of Michigan is Garland Gilchrist, an African-American who would then become the governor of that state. If they pick Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, the governor there is black. But here's what I love, Steve. I love the fact that when Obama picked Biden, everybody kept saying, well, he needs a white man. He needs
Starting point is 00:56:56 this. He needs that. Didn't nobody call that DEI? And ain't nobody saying it's DEI picking a white man right now. It's just interesting how they never call it DEI when it's white folk. And then Trump choosing J.D. Vance, who is probably the least experienced person to ever be chosen for vice president, has been in public office for 17 months, and you haven't heard anything about his lack of qualifications for the office. So, yes, there's very much a double standards in talking out of both sides of their mouth. Absolutely. Steve Phillips, I appreciate it, sir. Thank you so very much. Thanks for having me on, Roland. Great to see you. All right, folks, we will be back
Starting point is 00:57:43 right here. Talk more politics, but also we're going to talk about this shameful, shameful story out of Illinois. Black woman murdered in her own home by the cops because she was holding a pot of hot water. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered with the Blackstar Network. When you talk about blackness and what happens in black culture, we're about covering these things
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Starting point is 00:59:07 Zelle is Roland at RolandSMartin.com. Coming soon to the Black Star Network. I still have my NFL contract in my house. Having a case. It's four of them. My four-year contract. I got a $600,000 signing bonus. My base salary for that first year was $150,000.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Matter of fact... $150,000. $150,000, so I made $150,000. Now, think about it. My signing bonus was a forgivable loan, supposedly. When I got traded to the Colts, they made me pay back my signing bonus to them. I had to give them their $600,000 back.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Wow. Yeah. I was so pissed. Because, man, I try to be a man of my word. I'm like, you. I'll give you your money back. You know, even though I know I earned that money. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I gave them that money back. I gave them that $600,000 back. But yet, I was this malcontent. I was a bad guy. I wasn't about the money. I wasn't about the money. It was about doing right. Because I was looking at it. I looked at it. Because you look at contracts the money. Wasn't about the money, it was about doing right. Because I was looking at, I looked at,
Starting point is 01:00:06 cause you know you look at contracts. Look at John Edwards, John Edwards making a million dollars. 800,000, I was making 150. I mean, I was doing everything. And I'm like, but yet I was, man, I got so many letters, you know, you, you, so I just play for free and all that kind of stuff. I mean, you don't forget that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Right. That stuff is hurtful. Hello, I'm Paula J. Parker. Trudi Proud on The Proud Family. I am Tommy Davidson. I play Oscar on Proud Family, Louder and Prouder. Hi, I'm Jo Marie Payton, voice of Sugar Mama on Disney's Louder and Prouder Disney+. And I'm with Roland Martin on Unfiltered. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
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Starting point is 01:02:02 This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 01:02:22 you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back.
Starting point is 01:02:41 In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Sh Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote
Starting point is 01:03:05 drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now
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Starting point is 01:04:49 Anyone with information about Lashundra Fallins should call the Minden Louisiana Police Department at 318-371-4226 318-371-4226. Folks. There's a stunning, stunning and shocking story out of Illinois. The body cam footage regarding the murder of 36-year-old Sonia Massey has been released. Folks, this shooting took place on July 6th after deputies with the Sangamon County Sheriff's Office
Starting point is 01:05:27 responded to a call from her of a prowler. Charging documents indicate that Sean Grayson drew his gun and threatened to shoot Massey in the face. Grayson aggressively yelled for Massey to put down a pot of boiling water. As Grayson drew close to her, he fired three times, striking her once in the face. Grayson did not activate his body worn camera until then, though another sheriff's deputy, who has not been named had his activated
Starting point is 01:06:08 after arriving at Massey's house. The entire video folks is 34 minutes. I saw a brief, I saw the video last night and even I had to turn away when I saw what was about to happen. So let me warn everyone right now. I don't want us to have to, I don't want us to have to deal with this. But I need you to turn away if you do not want to see this video.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Remember we had, was it Atiana Jefferson in Fort Worth, shot and killed in her own home? You've seen this far too many times. So, roll the video. Windows. That was something that happened earlier. Okay, perfect. So, roll the video. easier. I just need you to just drive your license and I'll get out of your hair. I want to show you all my paperwork. What paperwork? I got some paperwork. Well just get your ID. Let's get your ID first and then one task at a time here. Okay. Here grab your ID for me. Okay. Your ID. One task at a time. So let's do an ID and then you can dig around for your paperwork. I don't know where my ID is. You can check that stack right there maybe. One second. Check on the curb. I'm going to do this.
Starting point is 01:07:54 We don't need a fire while we're here. Alright. Let me see. Okay. What are you doing? What are you doing? Away? What are you doing? Oh, away from your hot steaming water. Away from my hot steaming water? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Oh, I'll rebuke you in the name of Jesus. Huh? I'll rebuke you in the name of Jesus. You better fucking not. After we're done, I'll fucking shoot you in the fucking face. Okay. Okay, I'm sorry. Drop the fucking drop!
Starting point is 01:08:17 The fucking drop. Drop the fucking pot! Bitch. Drop the fucking pot! Drop the fucking pot! 15 shots fired just for you. Shots fired! Shots fired! Drop the fucking pop! Drop the fucking pop! Shots fired! Shots fired! Drop the fucking pop!
Starting point is 01:08:32 Bring em in, we got a headshot wounded a female. Headshot wounded a female, 10-78. Fuck. I was on, I was on. I'm gonna go get my kit. You're actually done. You didn't go get it, but that's a headshot. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:08:56 God damn it. God fuck. Dude, I'm not saying it's fucking boring. I'll let her fucking head. Hey, look. It fucking came right to our feet, too. God damn it. Fuck. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:09:10 You good? I'm good. You good? Yeah, I'm good. Let her fucking just... God. That's not what you do, man. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:09:24 You good? I'm good. All right. Fuck. Well, I mean, you know, what else do we do? I'm not taking hot boiling water to the fucking face, and it already breached us. Fuck. They got a 52 in route?
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, 1078. Sonia Massey's father, James Wilburn, was on CBS Mornings with Gayle King. And he talked about how he found out how his daughter died. I was never told that it was a deputy-involved shooting. We were under the impression that she was killed by the intruder or some other person from the street or something, and they just went in there and found her dead body. I did not find out that the deputies killed her
Starting point is 01:10:32 until my brother asked for Sonia's address, and I gave it to him, and he said, brother, this says deputies involved. And I'm like, what are you talking about? But we were all misled to believe that. And then there was a story that this was self-inflicted, a self-inflicted gunshot. Oh, my goodness. So I think the cover-up started from just right after it happened.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Thank God for the body camera footage. It's probably the most horrible and heart-wrenching thing that we've ever seen in our lives. But if it were not for the body cam footage, we would not have known that this occurred. She feared for her life. There was something, some premonition that she had. And it seems like he's just an emissary of Satan. And that's what caused him to do what he did. It's just unexplainable. Grayson, the cop who shot and killed her, who murdered her, he's worked for six law enforcement agencies in four years.
Starting point is 01:11:47 He's facing five charges, including three counts of first-degree murder, aggravated battery with a firearm, and official misconduct. Presiding Circuit Judge Ryan Cadigan said Grayson's callousness during and after the shooting, including not rendering help to Massey, was one of the reasons he ordered Grayson to continue to be detained pre-trial. Joining me now from Atlanta is Rodney Bryant, president of the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Rodney, you see that video. You hear this congenial conversation. She is boiling a pot. You hear her talk about, rebuke something in the name of Jesus. And this cop just goes crazy. Later he tries to claim, oh, I don't want to get hit with a pot of boiling. She wasn't even threatened to hit them with the water. Just share with what the hell you just watched. she wasn't even threatened to hit them with the water. What?
Starting point is 01:12:46 Just share with what the hell you just watched. Roland, you know, first of all, thank you for having us on the show. And my prayers go out to the Massey's family. This is a once again, we're reviewing a tragic situation that plays out live for our country to see. It's quite disturbing. It's disturbing for any father to be able to see that this could happen to their child. So it's disturbing to our community. I've had a number of calls as it relates to this video and the
Starting point is 01:13:25 outrage that is being poured out. But again, we're seeing this play out once again. And we can no longer just continue to pray for families. We can no longer just march. There has to be more aggressive action that take place that we make sure that this stops. We just can't be here again. I mean, you're watching it, and this sister is just talking, and she called the cops about a prowler. And here's what I don't understand. She called about a prowler. And here's what I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:14:07 She called about a prowler. Why in the hell are they inside having this extended conversation? And she ends up getting shot in the face. Yeah. You know, I can't get into, because I don't have all the answers on how they were able to get into the house and why they were able to get in the house. But clearly, the parts that we see on the video appears to be inexcusable. When people are calling for assistance, that is what they're looking for. And there was nothing in this video that we see readily
Starting point is 01:14:48 that will give us any indication that this is how this should have turned out. It was just unbelievable. And, I mean, this is the beginning of the video right here. And, you know, there are just no words for what we just saw. And this cop absolutely should have been charged with murder. Yeah, I think the attorney in that area did the right thing. They worked speedily to bring the charges and what the judge is doing as it relates to it from what we're seeing. I think that the system is at this family and this young lady, Sonia Massey. Indeed. Rodney, we certainly appreciate you joining us. Thanks a lot. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I just have no words, Mustafa. I mean, we do these stories over and over and over again. There's a black woman who thought there was a prowler outside of her home. She calls the cops, thinking they're there for protection. They're having this conversation inside. She's boiling some hot water. And this cop gets the impression that she's going to douse them with hot water. I didn't see any moment in that video where she even attempted to throw the water at them
Starting point is 01:16:35 and they shot her in the face. I mean, I mean, it's... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.
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Starting point is 01:18:44 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing nonprofit, A Sense of Home. For 10 years, this charity has been creating homes for young people exiting foster care. It's an incredible organization. Just days into the L.A. fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief program, providing fully functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Please get involved. Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to ascensivehome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our L.A. community rebuild. It takes all of us. It's hard to watch. But the reality of the situation is that they still don't see us. They don't see us as human.
Starting point is 01:19:40 And we need to stop pretending like there are officers that do. Now, that's not to say that there are not some good officers that are out there. We've talked about that before on the show. But people see us as sacrificable. So as you begin to unpack this, you have to ask the question, how is it that this officer worked at six different places in four years? Right there. Right there. Right there.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Red flag. And what was the reason why he was moving around so much? And we know that there are officers who can be bad officers and they just move over to another place. We've seen it time and time again. We also know that, and I've been a big advocate for this, I've written legislation that I tried to get passed, that we need to actually make sure that there are these psychological evaluations
Starting point is 01:20:32 of police officers every six months. And that is because it is a hard job, it is a stressful job, but there are also individuals who continue to also have mental health issues who are are carrying a gun, and who have the ability to take a life in a second. The other part of it is that that sister did nothing to justify his actions. He locked in, and he said, I'm going to shoot you in the face. He said, I'm going to shoot you in the face. That's something that you see on a TV show.
Starting point is 01:21:07 You shouldn't be hearing anything even remotely close to that. The other thing is that I grew up on gun ranges. I know that you can shoot somebody in the arm or the leg. You don't have to shoot center mass. You definitely don't have to shoot anybody in the face. This was intentional. He had made a decision to shoot this person in the face, a human being, but he didn't see a human being in front of him. He saw a black woman. He saw a black face and made a decision that he had the right to take her life away. He thought that privilege told him that he could do it. He thought he could do it because he thought that he knew he did not have his camera on and he was praying that his partner didn't have his camera on. Then the first thing you heard after the shooting
Starting point is 01:21:57 was he began to try and reframe the narrative and reframe the story so that psychologically it would be in his partner's head of what just played out, even though his partner saw with his own eyes the assassination of the sister. So we've got to understand the game that's going on, and we've got to make some decisions also. So we've been talking about our vote, right, and everybody's excited about, you know, the candidate Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 01:22:24 The question really is, yes, we should be paying attention to that, but we should be paying attention on the local and the county and the state level, the individuals that you're allowing to have this power. And are we actually asking the tough questions of individuals and making sure that they have the right mindset that we're going to give you our vote, you are also going to do everything in your power to protect our communities, to hold people accountable when they fall short. And if we're not willing to actually do that hard work, we are going to continue to be in these sacrifice zones. We are going to continue to have our lives taken away from us, whether our name is Breonna Taylor, our name is Eleanor Bumpers, or Alberta
Starting point is 01:23:05 Spruill, or Sandra Bland, or we can go on and on and on because they do not value our lives. So we've got to figure out how we're going to change that paradigm. And a part of that is by holding them accountable. And of course, the other side is the side where we have the litigation. But that is too late then, because we have already lost another individual who's a part of our family. Randy. This is a heavy one.
Starting point is 01:23:37 It almost seemed as if he came in to kill. He was aggressive with her from the minute he walked in. He treated her as an enemy from the minute he walked in. He treated her as an enemy from the minute he walked into the door. She called them to get help. So I don't know why she immediately was being questioned as if she were the criminal. And that's the problem. I believe that we are seen as criminals and viewed suspiciously from the moment that some of them are around us.
Starting point is 01:24:08 You know, we talked about DEI. DEI was always created to manage or to balance out the privilege that white men receive. Here you have a white man who's been able to go to six different police departments in four years. Tell me who else could do that. Tell me who else who clearly was unsuccessful doing their job that they had to leave six times in four years that could continue to have a job, particularly a job that is as sensitive as being a police officer is, because we see that allowing something like this to happen can be dangerous, can be fatal. I'm sick to death of having these conversations all the time about
Starting point is 01:24:54 us losing innocent Black people, particularly Black people who are calling simply for help. This woman, they found the car. The car had two broken windows. Clearly, here she was, the victim already, and then to secondly, again, be victimized by the very people that she was trying to get help from. My heart goes out to the Massey family. I cannot imagine what they must be feeling right now because we're all hurting. We're all hurting when we see something like this happen. And that change has got to come. Change has got to come. Joy? Yeah, no, change does have to come. And on that, I mean, we could have had the George Floyd Justice
Starting point is 01:25:38 and Policing Act, right? And that is one of the unfinished items from this administration, from these last two congressional sessions, and it's what we're going to have to fight for. It's what's on the ballot. We have to make sure we are holding police departments and states accountable for what happens with their police officers. There has—it's not about training. This wasn't about training. This is about the fact that you can have a rogue person on the force moving from place to place. We'll
Starting point is 01:26:11 find out more about him. And I guarantee there will be red flags that suggested he shouldn't have been out there with a badge and a gun to begin with, right? He shouldn't have even been in this position of power. But we're also going to find that we, no matter what we do in terms of training and policies, et cetera, that's important. But it's almost too late. You have to also have the right type of people on the force. You have to have the ability to get rid of the people who are the wrong types of people. And you have to give people
Starting point is 01:26:45 an internal calculus. If I do this, they're going to be able to sue my family and not just take my future, but the future of my family, because I'm not going to be immune from my behavior on the force. We have to make it so that they see the cost of behaving like this, that this kind of OK corral cowboy without regard for human life is not acceptable. And their family members have to put pressure on them to say, don't be this person. Don't be this person. You could ruin our entire lives. That had that we have to change the calculus because it's not enough for us to just count on somebody not being a good cop,
Starting point is 01:27:37 taking matters into their own hands, exaggerating, hoping people don't have their camera on, forgetting that people have their camera on. That happens, too, just deciding that they can say whatever. And so, you know, we are so excited about the potential of a President Harris. But whether it's a President Harris or a President Trump, we must hold our politicians accountable for getting this under control. It is 2024. We have had a black president. We are on the cusp, hopefully, of the first black female president. We cannot have black women and black men
Starting point is 01:28:12 killed in their own home, holding boiling water of threat to no one and have two cops on camera to try to fix things up. It's just unacceptable. Time's up on that. That ends now. And we've got to hold our politicians accountable
Starting point is 01:28:32 for making it so, Democrat and Republican. President Joe Biden released a statement regarding the murder of Massey. This is what he said. Sonia Massey, a beloved mother, friend, daughter, and young black woman should be alive today. Sonia called the police because she was concerned about a potential intruder. When we call for help, all of us as Americans, regardless of who we are or where we live, should be able to do so without fearing for our lives. Sonia's death at the hands
Starting point is 01:29:01 of a responding officer reminds us that all too often black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not. Sonia's family deserves justice. I am heartbroken for her children and her entire family as they face this unthinkable and senseless loss. Jill and I mourn with the rest of the country in our prayers over Sonia's family, loved ones, and community during this devastating time. I commend the swift actions that were taken by the Springfield State's Attorney's Office while we wait for the case to be prosecuted. Let us pray to comfort the grieving.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Congress must pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act now. Our fundamental commitment to justice is at stake. Vice President Kamala Harris also released a statement regarding the death of Massey. This is what the vice president had to say. Sonia Massey deserved to be safe. After she called the police for help,
Starting point is 01:29:56 she was tragically killed in her own home at the hands of responding officers sworn to protect and serve. Doug and I send strengthened prayers to Sonia's family and friends, and we join them in grieving her senseless death. Our thoughts are also with the communities across our nation whose calls for help are often met with suspicion, distrust, and even violence. The disturbing footage released yesterday
Starting point is 01:30:19 confirms what we know from the lived experiences of so many. We have much work to do to ensure that our justice system fully lives up to its name. I join President Biden in commending the swift action of the state's attorney's office and in a calling on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, a bill that I co-authored in the Senate.
Starting point is 01:30:42 In this moment, in honor of Sonia's memory and the memory of so many more whose names we may never know, we must come together to achieve meaningful reforms that advance the safety of all communities. Got to go to a break. We'll be right back. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.
Starting point is 01:31:47 It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice
Starting point is 01:32:29 to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
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Starting point is 01:32:59 It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing nonprofit, A Sense of Home. For 10 years, this charity has been creating homes for young people exiting foster care. It's an incredible organization.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Just days into the L.A. fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief program, providing fully functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires. Please get involved. Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to ascenseofhome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild. It takes all of us. Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene, a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence. White people are losing their damn lives. There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol.
Starting point is 01:34:11 We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at every university calls white rage as a backlash. This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this.
Starting point is 01:34:43 There's all the Proud Boys, guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white people. Next on The Black Table with me, Greg Carr. We welcome the Black Star Network's very own Roland Martin, who joins us to talk about his new book, White Fear, how the browning of America is making white folks lose their minds. The book explains so much about what we're going through in this country right now and how, as white people head toward becoming a racial minority, it's going to get, well, let's just say even more interesting. We are going to see more violence.
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Starting point is 01:38:12 Me, Sherri Shebron, and you know what you're watching. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks, welcome back. We're at the top of the show. We were talking about, again, these Republicans and how their use of DEI. And thank God you have some Republicans who have honor, integrity, ethics, morals, values, and principles.
Starting point is 01:38:41 One of them is Lisa Murkowski, the United States Senator from Alaska. Now, she don't like Donald Trump. She's made it clear Donald Trump should not be at all running. She'd be the Republican nominee, and she's talked about that. So on this whole DEI issue, go to my iPad. She was asked about this here. Murkowski on calling Kamala Harris a DEI hire. Of course it's not appropriate, for heaven's sake. What? Are they just going to say
Starting point is 01:39:12 if you're not a white male, it's a DEI candidate? I'm sorry, no. That right there was the point, Randy, that I was making earlier. That and people got to stop sitting here, you know, dancing around,
Starting point is 01:39:29 not really want to call them out. No, they got to say, so white boys ain't DEI? When the white boys hire white boys, they're not DEI? That's how y'all want to roll? See, I'm not going to play their game when it comes to DEI. I'm going to call their asses out.
Starting point is 01:39:51 I'm going to talk about the book when Affirmative Action was white. I'm going to sit here and say, was it DEI when we chose like 102 straight white male Supreme Court justices? See, this is when I criticize Bernie Sanders about his criticism of identity politics. When I criticize Bill Maher about the same thing.
Starting point is 01:40:18 They always wanna criticize identity politics and it never involves white men. Right. Because they are the standard in their minds and in the way this world has set up, white men are the standard and anything different is DEI. We should question if they have the right qualifications. Whereas because they're just accepted white men, we never question their qualifications. We never question when they're in power. It's fascinating to me that we can have all, you know, president after president of companies and this country be white males almost across the board. And we never question if that's the right thing, the fair thing, the deserving thing. But the minute that someone who is not white and male is considered, that person's a DEI. That person is not qualified.
Starting point is 01:41:12 We are making exceptions for that person. Again, what I just said is that DEI was there really honestly to somehow balance out the privilege that white men have in this country and that white women have also benefited from to a certain extent. It was there to balance it out. And white men have shown themselves to be so incredibly greedy that although they still run almost everything, they are upset, will raise hell anytime anyone else is given a chance, regardless of how qualified they are. I mean, the reason why I called myself the DEI disruptor is here I have worked in this field for so long, and I was disgusted at the way that the term, that the field was being
Starting point is 01:41:59 characterized. So I had to say, oh, uh-uh, I'm going to disrupt this. I am, like you, Roland, going to call people out. That's absolutely a major insult to anyone to say the only way that this person is in the place that they are is because we're doing them a favor, because it's charity, because that person just happens to be Black. How do you look at someone with a record like our vice president and say, oh, well, she's only there because she was black and a woman? It is one thing to say we are looking for diversity because it's the best thing for our team and still have overly qualified candidates. But they don't want us to believe that. And here they are, white men who have gotten major positions,
Starting point is 01:42:45 because they get most of the positions, and no one questions it. And what I really have been talking to my brothers and sisters about is we need to think about how our own minds are colonized. Because when I hear us say, oh, but you know, can a Black woman do this or are we ready or all these things? That means that it's our own programming. So to have that way of thinking, to think that, you know, we can't do it or we shouldn't do it or America is not ready for us to do it just shows that we have been programmed. And so part of this process, part of this disruption is honestly working on ourselves, too, and saying we reject. We reject the idea that the only way that we earn anything is because of our race or because of our gender, because we know factually that that is absolutely a lie. There's nothing that indicates that we have been given any favors in this country.
Starting point is 01:43:48 Joy. lie. There's nothing that indicates that we have been given any favors in this country. Joy? Amen, sister. I want to echo those remarks. That is absolutely correct. I mean, we, you know, Murkowski, it's funny, I had just posted that on social. I was multitasking. You know, we've had so many presidents of the United States and they've all been white with the exception of one, right? Is that not a DEI candidate? I mean, you know, why aren't we saying this? And I'm going to be honest, back to our original thing about our white sisters. Many of you guys are going to be hearing it. I have a friend who's already shared with me that she's hearing from people who have been challenging her with this DEI statement.
Starting point is 01:44:28 And she was at a loss on how to respond to it. And we have to give them the tools. They need to discover the tools themselves. Like, let's just, Lisa Murkowski got it immediately. Use her talking point. Is it that every time it's not a white man, it's a DEI candidate? Find a new trope, a new slogan. We're done with that. And honestly, I think most people are done with that. I think when you saw the congressman earlier make the statement about Kamala Harris being a DEI
Starting point is 01:45:02 candidate, you saw Mike Johnson immediately respond when he was asked about it. He walked away from that. He said, oh, no, we won't be talking about, you know, any of that, any DEI candidate. Why? Because he knows. He's done the math. He's seen the internals. And he understands that those messages do not work, including with moderate voters who they will absolutely need in order to win. They needed it if it was Biden, and they are definitely going to need it with Kamala Harris. He cannot win that way. Mustafa. I mean, we know that the system has never been set up for us. They know that. And when anytime we move into a space that is either
Starting point is 01:45:45 a new space or a space that we're coming back into, they send a very clear signal that you're not welcome here. You're not welcome here because we don't want to have to compete with you, because we understand the excellence that exists inside of your people. And that if we give you a fair chance, then we probably will be shown that our game is not as tight as it needs to be to hold the levels and positions that we have. DEI has always benefited white folks. I mean, I can give you a hundred different examples in policy, going all the way back to the Homestead Act, where we said, white folks, why don't you come on across the country? We're going to give you all this land. And we said to other folks, you can't be in this space because we're going to allow our
Starting point is 01:46:25 folks to build wealth and strengthen the economy of the United States. The GI Bill, also brothers who went and fought in foreign lands and came back and people told them, yeah, now this is not really for you, but we want to make sure that white folks have the opportunity to get educated. So, you know, there is a long history of how DEI has actually benefited white folks and continued to keep us off on the sidelines. But then we flipped the script. And when we flipped the script, that's when they got nervous. And the reason that they're nervous right now is, once again, because they know that
Starting point is 01:46:57 excellence that exists inside of us and that we are no longer willing to accept the status quo. We're going to make sure that we get what is due to us. We pay taxes, an incredible amount of taxes. We're going to get the money and we're going to get the positions. And if you can't deal with it, get the hell out the way. All right, then, folks, we're going to do a real quick break. We're going to come back. We're going to hear Vice President Kamala Harris's speech today to Democrats. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network.
Starting point is 01:47:41 This next generation social media app with over 600,000 users is raising $17 million. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.
Starting point is 01:48:13 From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes one, two, and three on May 21st and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Starting point is 01:49:31 We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. It really does.
Starting point is 01:49:45 It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here,
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Starting point is 01:51:07 I don't do Stallone, but I could do all that. And I am here with Roland Martin on Unfiltered. Thank you. Good afternoon, Wisconsin. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you. It is good to be back. Thank you all very much. Can we please hear it for Leah and her extraordinary story and leadership? And I do believe our teachers do God's work. They teach other people's children, and God knows we don't pay them enough.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Let's thank her. And it is so good to be here and be back with so many extraordinary leaders, including my friend, the great governor of Wisconsin, Tony Evers. He's here somewhere. My dear friend, Senator Tammy Baldwin. And, you know, I had the privilege of serving with Tammy when I was in the United States Senate, and she is always fighting for the people of this state and I know that the folks that are here are going to make sure you return her to Washington DC in November. Yes we are gonna elect her back to Washington DC. It is so good to be here also with Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez, Attorney General
Starting point is 01:52:48 Josh Cole, Wisconsin Secretary of State Sarah Godlewski, County Executive David Crowley, Mayor Cavalier Johnson, and the great state party chair, Ben Wickler, who I have worked with. Ben, you and I have been working together for years, and I can attest he knows how to build the infrastructure that delivers wins up and down the ballot. Thank you, Ben. So it is good to be back in Wisconsin, and it is great to be in Milwaukee. As many of you know, our state campaign headquarters are in this city.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Yes. And there is a reason for that. The path to the White House goes through Wisconsin. Yes, it does. And to win in Wisconsin, we are counting on you right here in Milwaukee. And you all helped us win in 2020. And in 2024, we will win again.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Yes, we will. So, Milwaukee, I want to start by saying a few words, and I could really speak at length, but a few words about our incredible President Joe Biden. Thank you. It has truly been one of the greatest honors of my life to serve as Vice President to our president, Joe Biden. Joe's legacy of accomplishment over his entire career and over the past three and a half years is unmatched in modern history. In one term, think about it, in one term as president, he has already surpassed the legacy of most presidents In one term, think about it, in one term as president,
Starting point is 01:55:05 he has already surpassed the legacy of most presidents who served two terms in office. And I know we are all deeply, deeply grateful for his continuing service to our nation. And it is my great honor to have Joe Biden's endorsement in this race. So Wisconsin, I am told as of this morning that we have earned the support of enough delegates to secure the Democratic nomination. And I am so very honored, and I pledge to you, I will spend the coming weeks continuing to unite our party
Starting point is 01:56:11 so that we are ready to win in November. So, friends, we have 105 days until Election Day, and in that time, we've got some work to do. But we're not afraid of hard work. We like hard work, don't we? And we will win this election. Yes, we will. So as Leah told you, before I was elected vice president,
Starting point is 01:56:51 before I was elected United States senator, I was elected attorney general of the state of California, and I was a courtroom prosecutor before then. And in those roles, I took on perpetrators of all kinds. Predators who abused women. Fraudsters who ripped off consumers. Cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. So hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump's type. And in this campaign, I promise you, I will proudly put my record against his any day of the week. As Attorney General of California, I took on one of our country's largest
Starting point is 01:58:14 for-profit colleges that was scamming students. Donald Trump ran a for-profit college that scammed students. As a prosecutor, I specialized in cases involving sexual abuse. Well, Trump was found liable for committing sexual abuse. As Attorney General of California, I took on the big Wall Street banks and held them accountable for fraud. Donald Trump was just found guilty of fraud on 34 counts. But let's also make no mistake, this campaign is not just about us versus Donald Trump. This campaign is about who we fight for.
Starting point is 01:59:17 This is about who we fight for. Just look at how we are running our campaigns. So Donald Trump is relying on support from billionaires and big corporations, and he is trading access in exchange for campaign contributions. A couple months ago, y'all saw that a couple months ago at Mar-a-Lago, he literally promised big oil companies, big oil lobbyists, he would do their bidding for $1 billion in campaign donations. On the other hand, we are running a people-powered campaign. And we just had some breaking news. We just had the best 24 hours...
Starting point is 02:00:24 ...of grassroots fundraising in presidential campaign history. All right. And because we are a people-powered campaign, that is how you know we will be a people-first presidency. And Wisconsin, this campaign is also about two different visions for our nation. One, where we are focused on the future. The other focused on the past. We believe in a future where every person has the opportunity not just to get by, but to get ahead. A future where no child has to grow up in poverty. Where every worker has the freedom to join a union. Where every person has affordable health care, affordable child care, and paid family leave. We believe in a future where every senior can retire with dignity.
Starting point is 02:02:09 So all of this is to say building up the middle class will be a defining goal of my presidency. Because here's the thing we all here, Wisconsin, know. When our middle class is strong, America is strong. America is strong. But Donald Trump wants to take our country backward. He and his extreme Project 2025 agenda will weaken the middle class. Like, we know we got to take this seriously.
Starting point is 02:02:54 Can you believe they put that thing in writing? Read it. It's 900 pages. But here's the thing. When you read it, you will see Donald Trump intends to cut Social Security and Medicare. He intends to give tax breaks to billionaires and big corporations and make working families foot the bill. They intend to end the Affordable Care Act and take us back then to a time when insurance companies had the power to deny people with pre-existing conditions.
Starting point is 02:03:36 Remember what that was like? Children with asthma, women who survived breast cancer, grandparents with diabetes. children with asthma, women who survived breast cancer, grandparents with diabetes. America has tried these failed economic policies before, but we are not going back. We are not going back. Not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back.
Starting point is 02:04:06 We're not going back. We are not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. And I'll tell you why we're not going back.
Starting point is 02:04:22 Because ours is a fight for the future. And it is a fight for freedom. Generations of America's... Generations. And we have to remember this. The shoulders on which we stand, generations of Americans before us led the fight for freedom. And now, Wisconsin, the baton is in our hands. We, who believe in the sacred freedom to vote, will make sure every American has the ability
Starting point is 02:05:07 to cast their ballot and have it counted. We who believe that every person in our nation should have the freedom to live safe from the terror of gun violence, will finally pass red flag laws, universal background checks, and an assault weapons ban. And we, who believe in reproductive freedom, will stop Donald Trump's extreme abortion bans because we trust women to make decisions about their own body and not have their government tell them what to do. And when Congress passes a law to restore reproductive freedoms as President of the
Starting point is 02:06:20 United States, I will sign it into law. So Wisconsin, ultimately in this election, we each face a question. What kind of country do we want to live in? A country... And to your point, do we want to live in a country of freedom, compassion, and rule of law, or a country of chaos, fear, and hate? And here's the beauty of this moment.
Starting point is 02:07:09 We each have the power to answer that question. The power is with the people. We each have the power to answer that question. And in the next one... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
Starting point is 02:07:33 But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company
Starting point is 02:07:55 dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th
Starting point is 02:08:26 Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts I'm Clayton English I'm Greg Lott And this is season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast Yes sir, we are back In a big way In a very big way Real people, real perspectives
Starting point is 02:08:42 This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding
Starting point is 02:08:59 of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corps vet. MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
Starting point is 02:09:14 What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 02:09:30 And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing nonprofit, A Sense of Home. For 10 years, this charity has been creating homes for young people exiting foster care. It's an incredible organization. Just days into the L.A. fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief program, providing fully functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires. Please get involved.
Starting point is 02:10:04 Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to ascensivehome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild. It takes all of us. 105 days, then we have work to do. We have doors to knock on. We have phone calls to make. We have voters to register.
Starting point is 02:10:24 And we have an calls to make, we have voters to register, and we have an election to win. So, Wisconsin, today I ask you, are you ready to get to work? Do we believe in freedom? Do we believe in freedom? Do we believe in opportunity? Do we believe in the promise of America? And are we ready to fight for it? And when we fight, we win. God bless you. God bless the United States of America!
Starting point is 02:11:06 President Joe Biden has made the selfless decision to pass the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris, who is ready, willing, and able to lead us into the future. Kamala Harris and her candidacy has excited and energized the House Democratic Caucus, the Democratic Party, and the nation. Vice President Harris has earned the nomination from the grassroots up and not the top down. She is ready.
Starting point is 02:11:54 She is willing. She is able to energetically and emphatically lead America into the future. Kamala Harris is a common-sense leader who knows how to deliver real results for hard-working American taxpayers. Kamala Harris is a courageous leader who has worked hard throughout her entire career to keep our communities safe. Kamala Harris is a compassionate leader who will build an affordable economy that makes life better for everyday Americans. Kamala Harris will fight for our freedom. Kamala Harris will fight for our families. Kamala Harris will fight for our future. I'm proud to strongly endorse Kamala Harris to be the 47th president of the United States of America. We're going to hold the Senate.
Starting point is 02:12:54 We're going to win the House. We're going to elect Kamala Harris as our next president in November. President Biden's selfless decision has given the Democratic Party the opportunity to unite behind a new nominee, and boy, oh boy, are we enthusiastic. Since President Biden's announcement, we've seen the Democratic Party swiftly coalesce behind Vice President Kamala Harris. When I spoke with her Sunday, she said she wanted the opportunity to win the nomination on her own and to do so from the grassroots up, not top down. We deeply respected that. Hakeem and I did. She said she would work to earn the support of our party, and boy, has she done so in quick order.
Starting point is 02:13:52 Vice President Harris has done a truly impressive job securing the majority of delegates needed to win the Democratic Party's nomination to be our next president of the United States. The vast majority of my senators quickly and enthusiastically endorsed her. So now that the process has played out, from the grassroots bottom-up, we are here today to throw our support behind Vice President Kamala Harris. I'm clapping.
Starting point is 02:14:23 You don't have to. It's a happy day. What can I say? Together, we will keep and hopefully grow the Senate majority, and under future speaker Hakeem Jeffries, we will win back the House. Democrats are moving forward stronger and more united than ever before. In just the last 36 hours, I have seen a surge of enthusiasm from every corner of our party uniting behind Vice President Harris,
Starting point is 02:14:58 an enthusiasm felt in every corner of the country, and it's contagious among Democrats. The volunteers, the small contributions and it's contagious among Democrats. The volunteers, the small contributions, they're just pouring in, in ways even beyond our expectations. Now, we all know that Vice President Harris has a tremendous record to run on, and now begins the next chapter in our quest to make sure Donald Trump does not become president. Today with one voice, we speak about the dangers he presents to working families, to our country, and to our democracy. We see very clearly how nervous the Republicans are about our new nominee.
Starting point is 02:15:43 Well, they ain't seen nothing yet. Last night, Vice President Harris secured a majority of delegates. Today, in Wisconsin and across America, we begin our next chapter, and it will be our best yet. Vice President Harris will beat Donald Trump and become the next president of the United States of America. All right, so Randy, Mustafa, and Joy. Is it me, or did I pick up on some audience shade? He thought they were going to clap, and the audience was like, yeah, we know what y'all did to Joe Biden,
Starting point is 02:16:28 but we ain't clapping on you. Am I the only one who picked up on that? Any one of y'all picked up on that? The silence said a lot. The silence was deafening. There was definitely a little shade. Uh-uh. Y'all can clap.
Starting point is 02:16:43 Mm-mm. And nervous laughter. they were like, when you done and when she coming out? Uh-huh. Mustafa, what did you think? Because I was just sitting there cracking up, because the audience is kind of like, yeah, all right, come on. I think the folks in the audience
Starting point is 02:17:02 are like a lot of folks across the country said we're going to take it from here because we're not going to allow any games. We know the games that are often played on Capitol Hill. And we're going to make sure that we are very clear about our commitment and what our set of expectations are. And we're not going to let you all muddy it up. So that's where the silence was, was letting you know you don't have as much power as you think you do, that we are reclaiming our power. So I'm impressed with the energy that is going on and that people are getting engaged and saying,
Starting point is 02:17:37 I'm going to give you my vote, I'm going to give you my money, but I'm also going to show up, and I'm also going to make sure there's accountability in the process. And I know Kamala Harris well enough that she appreciates that people are also going to hold her accountable for the things that she says that she's going to do. But folks are also going to make sure that she has the support around her that's necessary. And that means that we're going to vote on the state level, the county level, on the local level, and to make sure that all these various pieces that we often forget about or often don't get the attention that they deserve are going to be rectified this time so that everybody can make sure that no one is left
Starting point is 02:18:17 behind, as we often say. Roland, I'm going to throw my own shade uh i don't know if you can hear me yeah we got you but yeah you know when i saw george clooney come out tonight saying that he endorsed uh vice president harris i said oh that's nice that's nice but we will never forget how they treated joe biden the public nasty way in which they went about this so-called party insiders, donors, et cetera. That was offensive to people. That was offensive to people. So, yeah, we're very excited about Vice President Harris, but we can also feel that the way they put our party in a tailspin with their public, you know, hand-wringing and public backstabbing, et cetera, of Joe Biden was also wrong. Both things can be true.
Starting point is 02:19:12 And I know that's a controversial view. I believe that we are in the right place. But I can also feel that there's a way you do things in the way you don't. And so I think there are many people in that position. And what this revealed is we actually don't enjoy the sausage making. We don't. And so I think there are many people in that position. And what this revealed is we actually don't enjoy the sausage making. We don't enjoy these donors. We don't enjoy these so-called party insiders. And you know what? If Joe Biden has to focus on the presidency and retire his candidacy, he shouldn't be the only one. He shouldn't be the only one. Really,
Starting point is 02:19:44 time's up for all of that. And Vice President Harris is really focused on the people, hearkening back to her original campaign strategy, for the people, the grassroots donors, the grassroots delegates. That's what's putting her over the edge, not these superdelegates. Well, guess what? The one person, remember he called for an open convention? Boy, anybody know this President Obama, the last
Starting point is 02:20:11 one standing? Cause Nancy, Chuck, Hakeem, everybody, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, all her future rivals, everybody done endorsed her except Obama. Bueller?
Starting point is 02:20:28 Hmm? Bueller? For those old enough to remember? I'm just saying. Terry? I'm just saying. You look kind of on a lonely island. All right, y'all, that's it.
Starting point is 02:20:42 Let me thank Joy. Let me thank Mustafa. Let me thank Randy. I appreciate it. Thank you so very it. Let me thank Joy. Let me thank Mustafa. Let me thank Randy. I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Let me thank all of you for watching as well. Yeah, while we were playing the Vice President Kamala Harris segment, I actually was live on Joanne Reed's show, The Readout.
Starting point is 02:20:56 And so y'all can check that out. We'll restream that segment a little bit later. Y'all know I had a few things to say. So we'll do that. So y'all be well. Hey, support us in what we do. Join the Bring the Funk fan clubs in your check and money order. PO Box 57196, Washington, D.C. 20037-0196. Cash app is Dallas Sign, RM Unfiltered. PayPal, R. Martin Unfiltered. Venmo is RM Unfiltered. Zale, Roland at RolandSMartin.com, Roland at RolandMartinOnFilter.com.
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Starting point is 02:21:50 I'm real revolutionary right now. Thank you for being the voice of black America. All the momentum we have now, we have to keep this going. The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Black Star Network and black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't and Black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't be Black-owned media and be scared. It's time to be smart.
Starting point is 02:22:10 Bring your eyeballs home. You dig? Thank you. LA Fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief program providing fully functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires. Please get involved. Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to ascensivehome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild. It takes all of us. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 02:23:15 I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports.
Starting point is 02:23:39 This kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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