#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Civil Rights Act 60th anniv., Biden Supreme Court reform, Black voters not swayed by Harris attacks

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

7.29.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Civil Rights Act 60th anniv., Biden Supreme Court reform, Black voters not swayed by Harris attacks President Joe Biden celebrated the 60th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act. We'll share what he had to say about this historic moment in American history.  President Biden also unveiled a comprehensive plan to reform the Supreme Court. We'll break down what he is asking Congress to do and what this could mean for America's highest court.  The Howard University Initiative on Public Opinion conducted a recent poll showing that Black voters are not swayed by the GOP's latest attacks on Vice President Kamala Harris. We will share the poll results and what black voters are concerned about in this election.  Comedy and social media are changing how people get election information. Renowned Comedian and Actor Earthquake will join me to discuss election comedy and how it influences political engagement.  We have more National Urban League Conference interviews and a speech from Basketball great Jalen Rose's Golf Tournament.  I will also share a past interview with Alma Johnson Powell, wife of the late Secretary of State Colin Powell, as we mourn the loss of this extraordinary woman.  #BlackStarNetwork partners:Fanbase 👉🏾 https://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseCurl Prep 👉🏾 Visit https://www.curlprep.com/ for natural hair solutions! Us the discount code "ROLAND" at checkout Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am here at the Detroit Golf Club where Jalen Rose is having the 14th annual Jalen Rose Golf Classic, benefiting the Jalen Rose Leadership Academy, his charter school here in Detroit. You will hear from Jalen a little bit later. Also, a couple of the students who are participants in his academy will have that for you as well. On today's show, President Joe Biden was in Austin commemorating the 60th anniversary of the signing of the Civil Rights Act. We'll show you what he had to say. We'll talk about Vice President Kamala Harris preparing for her trip to Atlanta tomorrow as she continues to make the case why she should be the Democratic nominee for president of the United States. Howard University are focusing on what a black voter is thinking. We'll talk to

Dr. Greg Carr about that. Also on today's show, folks, some sad news. Alma Powell, the wife of Colin Powell, the widow of retired General Colin Powell, passed away at the age of 86. And, man, I was shocked and stunned when I got the news that my girl, my buddy, Erica Ash, passed away at the age of 46 last night after battling cancer for the last 18 years. We'll have our tributes to both of them, including my interviews with them, on TV One. Also, we'll hear from Master P and Ben Kropp, who I talked to at the National Urban League Convention in New Orleans. It is time to bring the funk on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network.

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We'll start off, though, with President Joe Biden calling for significant changes to the Supreme Court, including term limits as well as massive reform. Of course, this has been called for by lots of progressives. Many of those say he falls short, because they say he should be expanding the Supreme Court. Joining us right now is Stasha Rhodes. She's campaign director for United for Democracy. She joins us right now. Stasha, glad to have you here. Walk us through the reforms that President Joe Biden is proposing. Look, a lot of people not happy with the Supreme Court. They feel as if they're extremely hardcore right wing ideological. And so therefore, folks have been calling for reform.

And then we know, of course, what has happened when it comes to the gifts. Some five million dollars going into going to Supreme Court justices over the last 20 or 30. Clarence Thomas has gotten $4 million of those gifts. And then not reporting flights, yacht trips, things along those lines. So many folks have said that reform from the Supreme Court is long overdue. Roland, thank you so much for having me. And most importantly, thank you for covering this important issue. We are excited. United for Democracy is excited about the president's announcement for reforming the Supreme Court. We believe it's a vital step towards ensuring a court that truly reflects the values and

needs of the American people and not just the wealthy few. For too long, the integrity of this high court has been compromised by undue influence and partisan maneuvering. The integrity of this high court has been compromised by undue influence and partisan maneuvering. And so President Biden's commitment to reform is, for us, a testament to his dedication to restoring faith in our democratic institutions. As you mentioned, it is no secret that today's court is too biased, corrupt, and way too powerful.

In recent years, the court has overturned longstanding precedents that protect our fundamental freedoms. This court has gutted civil rights protections, taken away a woman's right to choose, and now granted presidents broad immunity from prosecution for crimes they commit in office. At the same time, ethics scandals involving the justices and the supermajority have caused the public to question the supermajority have caused the public to question the fairness and independence that are essential for a court to faithfully carry out. So, these reforms are welcome.

You mentioned the president's reform. He has three. He just gave a speech in Texas at the LBJ Library. And the three reforms are no immunity for crimes a former president commits in office. The president has said that the founders believe that the president's power is not limited—is limited. And so, it's really important that we're able to sort of ensure that no one is above the law.

The second is term limits for Supreme Court justices. Congress approved term limits for the presidency over 75 years ago. We believe that it's possible for Supreme Court justices as well. And then, finally, a binding code of ethics for the Supreme Court. I would like to say just a second about court expansion and other reforms. I think it's really important for folks to understand that there are a number of reforms that have been on the table for quite some time. It's not just court expansion. There are several others. We believe that this, though, is a step

in the right direction. The Supreme Court, the issues we face with this court, we are facing multifaceted problems that will require a package of reforms, not just one. It will require a comprehensive package of reforms. And advocates should continue to push for a number of those. But we believe that this, from the president, is a sea change and allows us the conversation on a national stage to talk about why this is important. Well, and again, when we talk about ethics, I mean, you've had Supreme Court Justice Kent. Oh, absolutely. No problem.

Sasha, how are you? Can you hear me? I can hear you. Awesome. This is Omeg Congo, the bingo guest host and Roland Martin and filtered and Monday panelists as well. I was listening to to Biden's speech. And one of the questions that one of the things that I learned was that this idea of term limits, is it something that it's not a new idea? This is something that kind of happens with every presidential administration throughout the year. So can you talk to the fact that people are acting like this is a novel idea, when this is something that has always been proposed in some way, shape or form? Well, it's certainly not new. And I think I would go a step further and say that it's popular. Recent polling shows mounting support for term limits.

The American people are not in favor of justices serving lifetime terms. And for many administrations, advocates across the judicial space have been asking for Congress to enact term limits to ensure that we have an opportunity to rotate justices and ensure that we have justices who are able to meet the current moment and are able to sort of judge in a modern time. And so it's not new, but most importantly, the American people want it. We're seeing mounting evidence of that. And so, Sasha, what do you think about those of us who have been saying this is this is good, like everybody is down for these particular reforms. But some are just like, yo, can we get the hookup on on the court expansion? Do you really feel like this is something that we know Biden is not going to suggest it?

But do you feel like this is something that is just going to be completely off the table going down the line? And what is the position of your organization on this? Yeah, look, I think right now we have to sort of understand this in a couple of phases. One, the president is a known institutionalist. He has been not the quickest to critique the Supreme Court and certainly not the quickest to offer up structural reforms to our democracy, and particularly the Supreme Court. And so, this is a big deal for the president to use his platform to say, yes, not only should we do this, but Congress has the authority and the ability to reform the Supreme Court.

For us, this opens the door for us to talk about why the Supreme Court is an issue. The justices are a problem, but the structures of our democracy are not meant to work in 2024, and so we should structurally reform and change it. And now we have a national conversation about why that is possible and why it needs to happen. The president's reforms, his announcement today, opens the door to have that conversation. And so, advocates who have bigger, deeper, bolder ideas should continue to beat the drum on those reforms and should see this as an opportunity to add more things to the president's package.

This is his first step. This is his sort of, I think, door-opening opportunity for all of us to say, and what about these things, too? But right now, we are excited about the three reforms that he's offered up, because they are—these are not low-hanging fruit, I should say. These are pretty important reforms that will take a lot of work for us to pass. But to your point, there are a number of us who believe in not just court expansion, but things like jurisdiction stripping, so ensuring that the

Supreme Court is not taking the power of other branches of government. We're seeing them do that. We're seeing the Supreme Court make decisions that take power away from Congress. In this last term, they have taken power away from the executive branch. And so we also believe in reforms that take that power away and really ensure that we have a Supreme Court that works for the American people, but also allows the other branches of government to govern as well. And so my last question for you is, do you feel like—I mean, we know Speaker Mike Johnson said

this is dead on arrival, blah, blah, blah. Do you really feel like there is any possibility that maybe there are some potential Republicans who maybe are seeing what's going on in their own districts? You know, is there any possibility that this could actually get some form of Republican support, even if it's not enough to make the changes needed? But do you think it's a complete unanimous decision? Is it really dead on arrival? I don't know. I will phrase my answer in a different way and say that if we all get out and vote in November, we have the opportunity to create a governing moment where a robust, comprehensive package of reforms will be on the table in a real way. And President Biden has opened the door for that. We know that Vice President Harris supports these as well. The ultimate way to make these a reality is to show up in November.

And I think we have to start telling people that. We have to start talking about what you are voting for. We're asking people to show up in large numbers. And that's good, but we have to tell them why it matters. And it matters because, if you are able to have a governing society, these packages are not dead on arrival. We have a real opportunity to pass reforms to the Supreme Court and change this democracy and strengthen it for a lifetime.

All right, folks. Well, LaTosha, look, this is a critical issue. And we'll certainly see if Congress moves on it. Some of the Republicans don't want to do that. But this is a major issue for Democrats. And it should be something that's talked about when it comes to the election. So we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thanks for having me.

All right, folks. Here's some President Joe Biden today in Austin at the Lyndon Baines Johnson Presidential Library. I was in college at the University of Delaware in the early beginning years when I heard the news that President Kennedy had been assassinated. I remember exactly like anybody in my generation remembers exactly where they were sitting, standing or walking. I was on the steps of one of the halls, one of the university halls called Hullion Hall at the university, listening on transistor radio with three other people. Seemed unbelievable. And then, later watching President Johnson help the nation find a way forward. In his first address after the tragedy, President Johnson said, and I quote,

nothing could more eloquently honor President Kennedy's memory than the earliest passage of the Civil Rights Bill. That's what he said. As a kid coming up, I always admired President Johnson for his public service, whether it was a school teacher in southern Texas, south Texas, master of the United States Senate, historic vice president and president. His philosophy was simple. In a great society, in a great society,

no one, no one should be left behind. He'd say, it's time for us to come to see that every American gets a decent break and a fair chance to make good. And as Andy Young said, President Johnson met repeatedly with the civil rights leaders and built a coalition to bring that vision to life. And he did. He brought it to life.

Over 50 years, the LBJ Foundation has convened this symposium to reflect one of the crowning achievements, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, a defining moment that has since opened doors of opportunities for all Americans, regardless of race, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religion, national origin. Together with the Voting Rights Act and the Fair Housing Act, these three landmark laws he signed are remarkable in their scale and their scope. Taken together, these three acts have made this nation fundamentally more fair, fundamentally more just, and most importantly, fundamentally more consistent with our founding principles. For real. And we're a better nation because of them.

We must be clear. Their work, our work, is not done. It's not done. We do not celebrate these laws as part of our past, but as critical components of our future. President Johnson understood, or President Lincoln understood in his own time, that the courts would determine the scale and scope, the scale and scope of our laws. Over 100 years after the Emancipation Proclamation, President Johnson vowed, in his words, to do this job that Lincoln started, to do this job that Lincoln started by challenging the court to live up to its constitutional responsibility.

He did that by nominating Thurgood Marshall as the first black justice of the Supreme Court. By aggressively defending civil rights. for us. By aggressively defending civil rights... All right, folks, that was President Joe Biden. We live-streamed that particular speech. If you want to see the full speech, go to Black Star Network app. You can also, of course, go to our YouTube channel. All right, folks, let's talk about this with our panel, of course, joining us right now.

Anita Shannon, former Georgia State Representative. I'm a Congo Domingo Senior, a professor of lecture, School of International Service, American University. Dr. Julianne Malveaux, of course, she joined us as well. President Merida, Bennett College. Julianne, we've talked about, obviously, Civil Rights Act, critically important. Then we talked about what Biden said today when it comes to court reform. I mean, listen, Republicans have always run on the court.

Democrats have not. They have not focused on it. The reality is the state of the Supreme Court, the federal judiciary is vitally important. What progressives have better understand, if Donald Trump wins in November, they're going to attack this court hard, right? You're likely going to see two conservatives retire, potentially three. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.

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years. Well, you're absolutely right. They'll find much younger justices, probably in their 40s, like Amy Coney Barrett, find younger justices who have an opportunity to stay on the court longer. They'll find more conservative justices with no possibility of swaying them, as they've occasionally been able to do with the chief justice, or recently on a couple of occasions with Comey Barrett. So they will own the court.

And the fact is that, and seeing Hillary talk about the court, people didn't care. People didn't get it. They didn't connect the dots. And so now here we are with six hard-right justices, a couple of whom can occasionally be swayed, but hard-right justices. Justice Uncle Thomas, who has already opined at OSHA, the Organization for Safety Health Administration, that he thinks that's an illegal agency. After Chevron, we expect to see more administrative agency attacks. And let's not talk about abortion. let's not talk about GBLTQIA rights. He talked about the fact that that is a law that could go back.

So I don't care what people think about—you know, you have a few. They don't want Kamala. They say they won't vote for her. Vote for yourself, fool. Vote for yourself, because this Supreme Court is not for human rights. It's not for black rights or women's rights or gay rights or any rights. They are for the rights of predatory capitalists and for consolidating the power of the autocracy. And look, Renita, look, look, Renita, the reality is here. What this court has done, this court has, we talk about overreach. I mean, in the case of the Dobbs case, in that particular case, the Mississippi law wasn't even asking for Roe v. Wade to be overturned. They went just, we're going to go ahead and do it.

The same thing in the Trump immunity case. They are not even looking at the existing case in front of them. They are creating and coming up with hypothetical situations by which they rule. How the Supreme Court has been acting more like lawmakers instead of folks who are supposed to interpret the laws that have already been passed by actual lawmakers. And so you're right. They are coming up with hypothetical situations in order to move their will through the court. And so that's why, you know, I do think that for a lot of people who are having hesitation about the switch in nominee for Democrats, I think that this is a really

good moment for new presidential nominee Vice President, to really talk about what will be her vision for the Supreme Court. We know that when we, you know, were trying to press President Biden to expand the court, we were met with, no, I'm not even going to think about that, and that was not something that he was wanting to do. I'm hoping that now we can really double down on what needs to be done with the Supreme Court in addition to the reforms that we heard about today, we also need more reforms similar to what—around what you were talking about, which is justices not being able to just overturn constitutional precedents just with the stroke of a pen.

There needs to be a much higher bar for them to overturn these constitutional decisions that have been made a long time ago that many laws today really do take their backing from. I'm a Congo. Look, I'm the type of person who has often said, don't just be a single-issue voter. But to be quite honest, on this election, we need to be single-issue voters and voting on the courts, which is what Republicans have always done, because the courts have put their finger on the scale of every single other issue. So whether we're talking abortion, whether we're talking everything Dr. Malveaux already said, if we make the courts the issue, it automatically deals with everything else we've

been looking at, from student loans to affirmative action. The list goes on and on. And too many times over the years, the Democrats, people within the Democratic voting bloc have often not dedicated enough sophistication to understanding that it is all about the courts. Look at Biden's appointments and look at Trump's appointments below the Supreme Court and things that we're going to have to fight for decades. So, as much as it's terrible what the Supreme Court has done, the good thing that can come out of it is that at every age range now, from teenagers, people voting for the first time, to the elderly, people are finally putting the laser focus on the courts that Republicans have been doing for decades.

And it's only going to be worth it if we get the people into power who are going to be able to do things like codify Roe v. Wade and usher in the Supreme Court reforms. So let's take this attention and actually do something with it come November. Absolutely. All right, folks, hold tight one second. We're going to a break. We come back. We're going to keep talking about presidential politics. What a comedian saying about what's happening in the political space. We'll chat with comedian Earthquake. Also on today's show, folks, we'll continue. Lots we're talking about. The Jalen Rose, of course, a golf classic here in Detroit. We'll talk about what he's doing when it comes to charter schools and helping kids here.

You also will remember Alma Powell, of course, who was very much involved in public service. And she, of course, the widow of General Colin Powell and actress Erica Ash. Shocking, dying badly, cancer for 18 years. She passed away last night at the age of 46. We'll remember them as well. You're watching Roland Martin Uncultured right here on the Black Star Network. Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene, a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence. White people are losing their damn minds. There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol.

We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at every university calls white rage as a backlash. This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people.

The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. I'm out. Hold on. Hold on. All right, y'all. Donald Trump has weaseled out of the September 10th debate on ABC, saying, oh, well, you know, Democrats, we don't know what's going on. Well, Vice President Kamala Harris has said, all right, Donald, I'm showing up. So I'm going to be there on September 10th, whether you come or not. I think, Renita, this is a brilliant move by Vice President Kamala Harris.

It is to show Donald Trump as a coward. Great, smart move. Absolutely. And the thing with this is I think one of the main reasons that he doesn't want to show up is because they don't know what their new campaign message is. They have been talking this entire time about this being a race between the strong and the weak, talking about how weak Biden was in comparison to Trump. And now that Kamala is going to be the nominee, that framing doesn't work. She's younger than him. She's had more experience, I would argue, that actually applies to the job.

She has the stamina. She's smart. And she's ready to go right now. And so I think that, you know, the framing that they have, that he has run his whole campaign on has now gone down the drain. I think that's why he doesn't want to do the debate. The other thing is they spent so much money running all of these ads against Biden and spending all this money campaigning against Biden, who is no longer the nominee. So, I mean, we're seeing it everywhere. You know, folks are pointing out that the Trump campaign is scrambling. Trump himself is scrambling because of the renewed—because of the interest around what

a Kamala presidency would look like. People are interested to see her campaign. People are interested to try to hit the reset button here and bring back the coalition that was slipping away under Biden being the candidate. So he should be he should be afraid. Well, absolutely. And I must say, I must say, I'm a Congo. Look, it's great to stand there. Remember when Clint Eastwood talked to the chair of the Republican National Convention in Tampa in 2012? That's what Vice President Harris should say. Matter of fact, what you ought to do is get a Donald Trump dummy and dress it up as a chicken and stand it there and say,

mm-hmm, he was too chicken to come here. I think that that would be amazing, right? And we know that, you know, some people say you stay petty so you don't have to get petty. I don't think she'll be petty enough to do it, but I would love to see it. But, I mean, look, the optic of Donald Trump not showing up and giving her the opportunity as a prosecutor to have the largest eyes that will be on this campaign between now and the election, and to just give her an opportunity to freestyle that joint or just answer questions from the moderators, that would be a death knell for the Trump campaign.

And so he has no choice. I think he's going to play it because, look, he's hungering for ratings right now and attention. So I think that he was planning to drop out. But I think he's also going to play this kind of play this out a little bit to keep his name in the news. Will he or won't he? Will they or won't they? Will they or won't they? And then show up and again, show up with the lowest expectations ever. Just not as Hillary Clinton said, just don't light himself on fire. And people say that he had a presidential style debate and he was great. And that's what he's going to do. So I feel like he's going to show up, but I would just love the opportunity for her to just sit there and prosecute an empty chair or Trump dressed up as a chicken.

Some type of physical display of that as well. Absolutely. Julianne, your thoughts? Well, first of all, I think your idea about the chicken is funny, brilliant, ain't going to happen. Kamala has too much class. She's not going to stoop to his level, and his level is pretty low. I do think that he may or may not show up for a debate. She'll wipe the floor up with him, and that's why he doesn't want to come. They basically completely upended the Trump playbook in terms of what they were planning to do.

They were planning to ridicule Biden as old and slow, et cetera. And they can't say any of that about Kamala. He's been name-calling. He's been a name-calling role. I think he called her garbage one day, a bum the other day. Really just all-time low. But where's the contrast on the issues? And if he doesn't show up,

Kamala will have a stage on what Kamala goes right, and she will shine brilliantly for that 90 minutes that they have reserved for debate. But if he does show up, she's still going to wipe the floor up with him and use those 90 minutes to make the contrast that we need to make. It's not about all this little silliness. It's really about the issues. As we said earlier, it's about the

Supreme Court. You know, it's about presidential power. It's also about the Department of Education and Project 2025. There's so many things that she can deal with with him that he he's lying and saying he doesn't know anything about Project 2025. Half of his prior cabinet has contributed to it. He's lying. I mean, why are we surprised that Mr. Trump lies?

That's what he does. So I'm looking forward to September 9th. But here's the deal though, Julianne. I'm looking forward to September 9th. But here's the deal, though, Julianne. I'm a Congo here. I got to disagree with you. And I think this is the problem that Democrats make. Democrats go, oh, it's about the issues.

It's about the issues. No, it's not. Here's the deal. You have to sometimes recognize that if you lock and load on issues, it's also about style. It's not always about substance. And I think they I think they have to mock him. They have to belittle him. They have to call him out. Because if you only focus on issues on the Congo, then it's like, well, OK, fine. He Donald Trump is doing all this other stuff

and he's loud and whatever. No, you have got to rip into him at every turn. And again, I just think if you only make it about the issues, then you do the traditional thing, they gotta just constantly hammer him

on everything. I'm a Congo. Yeah, I feel that because these guys are running dirty campaigns. And look, it's not like we're saying we got to go deep and to go really like ignorant and disrespectful. But it's fair to call out everything, you know, relating to age, everything relating to that. You know, they've taken over the last few days to calling what they're, you know, how Trump and J.D. Vance are acting weird and, you know, oh, it's just very weird. And people like, oh, that's cute. But no, call it racist.

Call it ignorant. Call it homophobic. Call it anti-Semitic. Call these, you know, call them what the actions that they're doing. Call it deplorable. Call what they're doing, you know, they're representing the lowest of the low. Donald Trump is trying to maintain his financial freedom and his personal freedom by running for president. So he's going to do everything possible. And if Democrats just stick to the issues and keep coming off as looking too nice, they're going to look like people who

are not ready to fight. So, look, I'm not saying they need to come up and make up a whole bunch of things like J.D. Vance did about, you know, the cat ladies and all this other type of stuff and children, people without kids and all that other type of stuff. But they cannot just stick to the issues. And I think especially with these younger folks who are coming into the electorate, they want to see people who are willing to fight for them because they've seen people in both sides of the party on different levels denigrate them as uninvolved and so on and so forth. So get out there and fight and fight back and fight back hard. And you can do it in a way that isn't stupid down to their level, but you don't have to try to act as this high and mighty.

This is a fight. This is a guy who said over the weekend that this could be the last election. He said to Christians, just vote for me and you won't have to vote again. Fight for that. Call that out at every single level. You got to do that. And people want to see that strength. I'm with it. Well, and listen, what he did, Renita, he called her low IQ, called her trash and all kinds of stuff. And so we know what he's going to do. And so again, I think you have to mock him. I think you have to belittle him. You can still focus on issues, but if you only listen, if you only make it about issues, remember during the debate, the president Biden talk about issues. Yes. Did Trump lie 30 times? Yes. Who did they say won the debate? The lie.

It's about both. And Kamala does have to deal with the issues because she's in a different position than what President Biden was in. She's got 100 days to go ahead and reintroduce herself to the voters. You can't just assume that Kamala is going to have the exact same policies that President Biden had. She has a chance to set her own agenda, her own policies, and to make known what she wants to campaign about. But you're right. It's about both. She's got to lead with the issues, and she's got 100 days to communicate what she is actually going to do.

But then also, the style of it, the way she communicates the issues, has to make people feel like she is going to fight for them. And a part of that is being able to take on characters like Donald Trump. I think Trump is so scared. The things that he's saying about Vice President Harris, talking about her laugh, calling her low IQ and all this stuff, that's all he has. None of it is sticking, because people know that it's not true. And I think all of this kind of backs up to why he—the last thing that he wants to do

is show up to a debate and debate her, because everybody will see for 90 minutes that she knows what she's talking about. She will get a chance to talk about the issues, and she'll get a chance to say it in a way that lets Donald Trump know she's not playing with him. Well, and Julianne, we've already seen how her campaign has been far more aggressive than President Biden's campaign was in terms of mocking him, in terms of calling him an old 78-year-old convicted fellow. So they've been doing that, and my whole deal is keep it up. I do think, I mean, I think that she does have to lead with the issues. I think, however, she can mock him.

She can minimize him. When you talk about a 74 year old getting ready to spend some time in jail, minimizing him, making people feel sorry for him or something. So if you really want to send, you know, I think that, but I think the issues, I don't disagree with either of my fellow panelists. I simply think that the issues are her strong suit. She is a prosecutor. She's well-versed in these issues. She's not identical to Biden by any step of the imagination. Go to Netanyahu about Gaza. You would never see President Biden doing that kind of thing. And then Mr. The Orange Man, to Mary, did he say she was disrespectful to Netanyahu. Well, somebody needs to be, given what's going on. And she wasn't disrespectful.

She just stated the fact that he did not want to hear. So she's got to lead with issues. But I think there are lots of ways to contrast style. Trump is blustery, braggadocious. She's elegant. And Omicron, we can be above it it we can be above it all she doesn't have to get down in the mud with him to put him in his place you know so and what she projects to me as a black woman is an elegance is a style and i think that when you contrast it to some elegant

woman who basically brushes him off like a fly you know like a little fly that's out of her shoulder bye bye bye bye bye I think that when you contrast that with this blustering buffoon who talks loud who talks over people who tells lies every minute I think even Rachel

I got you listen Julia I got you on all the elegant stuff like that. But listen, when you in a fight, you got to be in a fight. And I and I and I get it. Yes, she has to speak to issues. But you got to punch that bully in the mouth. And you got to keep punching his ass in the mouth and keep punching him. Because the reality is there are people who also vote based upon strength.

Who's a fighter? And you've got to show that as well. So you've got to show all of that. Let me go to a break. We come back more on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. We are live here. The 14th annual Jalen Rose Golf Classic benefiting the Jalen Rose Leadership Academy of the Detroit Golf Club. We come back.

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Of course, his public charter school here in Detroit serving 400 students, more than 1,000 alumni. It has been an amazing day. Had some storms about an hour earlier, but it has been an amazing day. Had some storms about an hour earlier, but it cleared up an amazing day. We're going to be grabbing Jalen in a second. He's making his way over here. So do y'all have it queued up? So last night we had the pairing party at the MGM Grand in the top golf suite where Jalen introduced a new principal of his school. And she talked about her vision of leadership for the Jalen Rose Leadership Academy. Here it is.

I was crazy. I'm like, what is he doing? I'm saying, well, you know, I was bugging. What we put on for the city, that's what we do. I just want to thank you guys for being here. This is our 14th annual and the one thing about being in the city of Detroit, this is a labor of love. Those of us who work here, live here, want to be here. Those who got on airplanes, car services, checked in a hotel, took extra effort to be here. I'm very grateful for those that did such. And this is an amazing gathering of human beings

because I've noticed something. I used to get upset about the coverage that we don't get. Uh oh, uh oh, that might be my theme music. I used to get upset about the coverage that we don't get and then I realized something. There's a reason why we don't get that coverage. Because this is a charity that makes it to the hood. So it don't matter who's president, it don't matter what is happening in life,

we're still here to give back to our community. And I'm just so very grateful for all of you for being here. I want to first acknowledge all of our great sponsors, all of our great partners, because we're open enrollment, we're tuition free, we're public chartered, we get zero, zero, zero state funding for our facility and for our athletics. Zero.

So the time, the energy, the money that you give to us is paramount. There's a statistic that says public schools won't have sports in 20 years. The state of Michigan, the city of Detroit is still playing basketball without a shot clock just think about that I know the games is like 24 to 20 and somebody get up four points it's like four corners Carolina kind of did that because us too that's another topic for another day passing the ball around right and so the time the energy and the money that you spend is very valuable to us i want to thank our jra staff like i almost feel like they should get a salary for teaching and babysitting you all agree?

It's on forever gratefulness. To each of our board members, thank you very much. Our founding members. Michelle Veselli Miller, where is she? Thank you, Michelle. She's the best. Nobody has ever talked to me without talking to Michelle at some point. And she's gotta make sure she's my gatekeeper,

and I need that, thank you. Also, I wanna do something that's extra special. I wanna do an introduction. I wanna introduce you guys to a human being that I feel like is going to revolutionize education. Somebody that's very disciplined, somebody that's very passionate, somebody that's very hardworking, and somebody that's J.R.O. Lay's new principal. So please welcome Jasmine Allen.

Please give it up for her. Give her love, give her love, give her love. Give it up, give it up. And so here's the thing. You can talk about it or be about it. And this young lady got the job at the end of May. Hit the ground running in June. And you don't have to ask me.

You can ask her staff. She's focused. She's ready to be a game changer in urban education. So I'm grateful for you, thank you for being here. And say hello to your endorsers, your donors, your scholars. Roland Martin got on the airplane, look at him sitting front row, no socks on. He's handsome on. and Martin got on the airplane, look at him sitting front row, no socks on, no pants on, just did a fundraiser

that just raised like $5 million for Kamala Harris or something crazy. You know what I mean? So again, Jasmine, we thank you, we're grateful for you, and say hello. Hello. say hello very clear about what I can and cannot say I'm just so I don't really want to talk about me because it's not about me y'all come here for me I came here to talk about cheese so I want to talk a little bit about you and then talk a little bit about our kids. So just entertain me and really quickly think about the most important time that somebody told you you couldn't.

For some of y'all, it has something to do with school. For some of y'all, it has something to do with a job, a check, a house, a car, a family. But everybody in this room has a time that's really important to them where somebody told them that they couldn't. And now think about when you proved them wrong. And think about the place that you were in. At Jalen Rose Leadership Academy, we've got over 400 scholars this year who are coming in with those same values. Family, respect, excellence, and determination. They also have grit like I've never seen.

They've got perseverance. You know the kind of perseverance that they have because I was the kind of perseverance that it took to prove somebody wrong when he said you couldn't. So this year, every year thereafter, we're gonna prove Detroit, Michigan, United States and everybody else that we can because it's his Detroit and we do put on for our city.

And I just want to thank all of you for being in partnership with us. It doesn't matter who you are, whether you're a friend of ours, whether you are a staff of ours, whether you are family, because all of us will put the children at Jalen Rose Leadership Academy on our back to support them while they prove to the whole world that they can when a bunch of folks say that they couldn't. Thank you. Thank you. I've been sleeping a lot better since we hired her. You too, Reverend Jim. You sleep a lot better. I'll tell you.

Thank you to Seema and Nisha. We love you guys. Thank you to Ryan. All right, folks. And so I'm waiting to grab Jalen. So the golf tournament is over. They're about to have the awards presentation. So I'm trying to actually grab him right now so we can chat with him live.

Because one of the things that he talks about, and he said a number of times, is that the money that they get from the state, they cannot use on facilities or even sports. And so they actually have to use that money. They actually have to raise that money themselves. And so that's one of the reasons why this golf tournament actually takes place, because they have to raise those funds. And so it really is about raising lots and lots of money for their facilities, for their schools. And so that's what we are trying to grab Jalen. And so if I could get him in a second. And so what we'll do here

is actually see if we can hear some of this here so just give me a second here we go. Thank you. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.

It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott.

And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.

Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush.

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Thank you. Thank you guys CMA. Thank you. Thank you guys very much. All right. Before we get the awards started, we definitely want to say our thank yous to Tom Boers and Platinum Equity. Yes. And we'd love to bring up... And JD. I love y'all.

Yep. We'd love to bring up JD or Ed. Or both. Or both. Yes. Maybe way up here. Or both. Or both, yes. Maybe the way up here, let's clap for them. Please, John and JD, can y'all please come up? And while they walk up.

There's a time when you're a former athlete and you're retired and you're trying to figure out what's next. And you start working in the multimedia. And you think you want to open a school in your community. And you feel like you want to get people to support you and invest in you and take you serious. And each gentleman found a way to look at me and say, I actually believe in your vision, Jalen. I think that's going to be a success story. So much so, I've never seen this gentleman, and he's not giving me a check. He literally gives me a check every time he sees me.

Both of these guys. We were standing outside of what was Vandenberg Elementary, and I was talking to them about JLA. And imagine standing here, the windows are broken, it's a middle school, no plumbing is in the building, and I'm trying to tell and sell them why I'm going to start a school in this community. And so I thank my Platinum family, that's Dan, that's Sarah, that's my brother Tom Gores and his wife Platinum Equity for believing in this vision. But it started with these two gentlemen.

And I love you, and I'm grateful for you. Thank you. And they hate when I do this, but I have to. So, if you don't mind, please say it. There was no shock when I first met

Jaylen. We walked in front of the school, and I said, oh my God, this is going to be a tough, tough road. And Jaylen looked at us and said, you know, J.D., this is not about private equity. It's not about, you know, GM. It's not about big money. It's about kids. Getting an opportunity to about big money, it's about the kids.

Getting an opportunity to be the best they can be. Jaylen mentioned, actually I didn't want to go on there guys. Jaylen talked about the zip code. And you know, we kind of think that isn't the reality, but it is the reality. It is the reality. And I grew up in Michigan. I grew up in an affluent community. I'm from San Francisco, Michigan.

I live in Birmingham. I didn't know. That's right. That's right. I didn't know. I didn't realize the challenges in downtown Detroit. And listening to Jim's story and understanding his value proposition and his commitment to the kids. And Eddie and I said, you know, listen, we have to go back to Tom.

And I said, listen, let's invest in this guy because I think he's real. I used to tell the story, the first time we met, we met at a flatback shack at 730 in the morning. And I told him, it said, how many NBA athletes are going to show up at a flatbed check at 7.30 in February? It was 8 degrees out. I had a big hat on. He's all done. He walked in a bit dark. And he was so polite, and we said, he didn't even eat brain.

He had a lot of pancakes. And you didn't know how to ask for money back then i did it was interesting you made money but you did not i did not ask i didn't know and it was 7 30 in the morning anyway um and take that lesson it was 7 30 in the morning it was 7 30 in the morning i knew it and, man. Can you hear me? Yeah. So anyway, please sign it. I'd just like to say one thing. It's on behalf of Tom and Holly. You know, JD and I, after we sat that day, that morning and had breakfast with you, you know, right away, we called Tom and got him on the phone and said, listen, we just, we just said the choir of Pistons., and we said this would really be of value to Jalen, to the kids, the Pistons. And honestly, it was, there's no question, it was boom. $200,000 and let's get this guy up and running. Mm-hmm.

So Tom and Holly love children. That's the name of the game for them, and that's one of the reasons why they did what they did. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. how they love children. That's the name of the game for them and that's one of the reasons why they do it. Thank you. So the important thing is, and I'm just going to go through this, is that at MISIS-Con and how we operate, is okay, we're going to invest, we're going to work hard, but what will be the results? thousand students graduated. 92% of the students who go there graduate in St. Petersburg and in Rosemont.

Just fun little stuff. And you're bringing in teachers and the principal, where'd she go? Jasmine, she's back there. She's incredible. Yeah, she comes up and gets us all fired up. You gotta have good staff, you gotta have good investors, you gotta have good board,

but you gotta have a good guy. Here he is, hard work. Thank you. Thank you. Alright, so that was great. Can you please give those two gentlemen a round of applause? Thank you so much, Platinum Equity. All right.

Now it's time to coin the champions of the day. The champ is here. Absolutely. All right. So first up, Jaylen. So, folks, we're going to go ahead and do this here. We're going to go ahead and go to a commercial break. And we're going to come back to Detroit, where I am, of course, here with the Jason Rose Leadership Classic. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network.

Next on the Black Table with me, Greg Kahl. Democracy in the United States is under siege. On this list of bad actors, it's easy to point out the Donald Trumps, the Marjorie Taylor Greens, or even the United States Supreme Court as the primary villains. But as David Pepper, author, scholar, and former politician himself says, there's another factor that trumps them all and resides much closer to many of our homes. His book is Laboratories of Autocracy, a wake-up call from behind the lines. So these state houses get hijacked by the far right,

then they gerrymander, they suppress the opposition, and that allows them to legislate in a way that doesn't reflect the people of that state. David Pepper joins us on the next Black Table here on the Black Star Network. On a next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, how are you being of service to others? Doing for someone beside yourself is such a big part of living a balanced life. We'll talk about what that means, the generation that missed that message, and the price that we're all paying as a result. Now all I see is mama getting up in the morning, going to work, maybe dropping me off at school, then coming back home at night, and then I really didn't have any type of time with the person that really was there to nurture me and prepare me and to show me what a life looked like and what service looked like.

That's all on the next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, here at Blackstar Network. Hey, it's John Murray, the executive producer of the new Sherry Shepard Talk Show. You're watching Roland Mark. Until then. Folks, we'll come back to talk to Jayla Rose in a minute, but we wanted to recognize the passing of Alma Powell. She died at the age of 86 years old. She was an audiologist, but she also was a chair of America's Promise, the nation's largest partnership dedicated to improving lives of children and youth. She was a widow of General Colin Powell.

They were married for 59 years. He died, of course, in 2021. I had an opportunity several years ago to interview her on my TV One's News One Now about America's Promise, and here is that conversation. For the past 20 years, Colin Powell and his wife Alma have been working with America's Promise, the organization that focuses on improving the lives of children in America. They're about to embark on a two-day summit in New York to deal with this very issue. And when I talked to Alma Powell, she made it clear why children are their priority. Someone asked me once, why is it that in other countries children do so much better than they do here?

I said because they put great emphasis on the future of their young people because they know it's the future of their country. And they provide for their education. Teachers are important. But here, whenever you want to cut the budget, it's the kids' issues that go first. And so with America's Promise, I mean, so what exactly are you trying to do to bridge that gap or to impact policymakers to say you cannot leave out the next generation? We don't deal with policymakers so much. We just go ahead and do what we're doing in the communities.

Our aim is to provide supports around young people wherever they are that give them what they need to succeed. We call those supports. We call those supports, it is the basis of America's promise, is the five promises. A caring adult in every child's life, a healthy start, safe places to learn and grow after school, a marketable skill through an effective education, and then teaching them to give back. And so this work is done in communities and schools and churches, and we have over 420 partners around the United States who are providing these things.

Caring Adult is a mentor. There is a big organization called Mentor that has grown considerably in the past 20 years since we began America's Promise. They were one of our founders. We worked through our policy arm at the time to ensure the Children's Health Insurance Plan. We'll probably have to fight for that again, but right now it is in effect. Boys and girls clubs,

all of those after-school programs that exist around, they take the place of safe places to learn and grow. How do you measure results? By the way we see young people turn out in the communities where we work. Right here in the district, we have a program, or we have assisted with a program. We didn't institute it. There is the D.C. Promise for you where the children are surrounded by all five of those promises. Early education starts at six weeks old. There's an

Educare Center there that takes care of young people from six weeks old up until kindergarten or pre-kindergarten. Elementary school next door, middle school, high school, health, things brought into the community, children's health, children's hospital brings in a medical van, there's a dental van, providing all five of those things. And children are encouraged and programs are set around to give them an opportunity to give back to their communities. That, in essence, is what we would like to see all over this country. And why this issue? Look, you could be involved in all kinds of stuff, but why this?

This is the future of our country. We have had the sheer joy of raising three children and nurturing a new generation, but to whom much is given, much is expected. And our children in this country, the most important resource that we have. If we do not provide them with the assets they need to grow up to be strong, healthy individuals, our country has no future. What type of, I understand you've done some polling to get a sense of what young folks say they want and what they say they need. We have to ask the kids what it is they need and how they are reacting to what is given to them. They have done two studies up there.

The second one was called Don't Quit On Me. And young people express that they need adults in their lives and don't just stay there for a little while. One gentleman said to me one time when I was explaining this to him, he said, oh, I got a little free time. I could mentor somebody. I said, don't start if you're not going to stay there. Because this child, whoever it is, has to be able to depend on you. You have to have his back all the time. And it is important. And fortunately, there are hundreds and hundreds of people in this country who are doing just that.

One of the things that I think is also interesting when you talk about America's future, that we don't do a good job at, is giving the proper guidance when it comes to careers, what's down the path. Because somebody says, oh I want to do this, this, this. But if the research shows those jobs are not going to be available, it's not going to happen. And I've been a huge proponent when you talk about the lack of, I think,

enough guidance counselors in high school, really giving folks the right information. I do a lot of it when I'm talking to journalism students, and they say, well, I want to go get my master's. And I go, for what? You know, in this industry, you need the skill set and you're just adding more debt. And they look at me like I'm crazy and they go, I never heard any of this stuff. Yes, we don't have enough of that. And unfortunately, guidance counselors positions among those that are first cut to when they are trying to trim down school budgets. My daughter-in-law worked as a guidance counselor in a high school where her children were.

And the year after she left, that position was eliminated and the position of the only person who could speak Spanish and talk to the parents of those children. So there were going to be a whole population there that was floundering around with no guidance. They need to start working on this, and we try to emphasize that when we talk to people about their caring adults and so forth. I just heard a discussion on the radio the other day about how many jobs there are available with nobody to take them. I spoke once to the head of the Association of Manufacturers who said, we've got jobs,

we've got nobody to take them. I said, grow your own. Grow your own. Go out there. Build your bench. That's right. Mentor young people, bring them into the business, teach them the business, and grow your own workforce. And we need to look at that as we go along in every single field. CVS drugstores used to have a program like that. I'm not sure that it still exists, but it was very effective in the first years after the summit where they went into high schools and mentored young people who were interested in science, brought them into the drugstore as interns, helped them go to pharmacy school, and then gave them a job.

And that's the kind of thing that will work to help our workforce. Let's talk about your upcoming event in New York City. Explain that. Well, the event in New York City is a recap of the summit in 1997. We are celebrating 20 years of service to the young people of this nation. It will be two days, Monday and Tuesday, with lots of sessions talking about the needs of children again and how we go forth into this 21st century. We have to realize that jobs that existed five years ago don't exist today, and some of those today are not going to exist five years from now. And so we have to talk about what is the basis that we can give children to provide them for whatever the job market is. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,

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Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King,

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So this will be focused on the first 20. What would you want the story to be 20 years from now about America's Promise? 20 years from now, I would hope that the idea of America's Promise has permeated America's society, and they know that everybody has a responsibility to these kids, that more and more people are involved in it in a very deep way, knowing that we as the adults have the responsibility for providing for our young people. All right. Alma Powell, we appreciate it.

Thanks a lot. Thank you for having me. A peaceful protest turned deadly. 37-year-old black man was shot and killed by veterans. Bill Flom, come on up here. All right, folks. Again, so sad to hear the passing of Alma Powell. And so certainly kudos go out to her children, including Michael Powell,

former chair of the Federal Communications Commission. Really, really, she was a phenomenal sister. She was more than just Colin Powell's wife. She was an accomplished woman within her own right. And so we certainly salute her as well. Folks, in this political environment that we see, a lot of energy out of here, including what's happening on the comedy stage. And so how comedians are dealing with this particular race, Donald Trump and now Vice President Kamala Harris. Well, Earthquake joins us right now. Earthquake, glad to have you with us.

And so, again, look, comedians have long made fun of this idiot Donald Trump, but you got a whole new dynamic now for Vice President Kamala Harris. What are you seeing and hearing among your fellow comedians? Well, I mean, we're trying to support the sister, and I challenge all brothers for once, can we just support a sister unconditionally? She's qualified. She deserves it. And compared to her challenger, there's no comparison. from an HBCU from where I'm from, Washington, D.C., where she went to school by way of Oakland,

to see her to be the first female president who happened to be a sister. Well, of course, Earthquake, you've got to get your thoughts on this. You've got a lot of these rappers, mostly that we never heard of, you know, vouching for Donald Trump. I can't remember that child who spoke at the convention who, they claimed she was a rapper, but I don't know what the hell she is, Amber Rose.

And so, folk been lighting them up on social media. What do you make of that? Well, I just want to tell them when his policies affect somebody in their life, don't knock on my door to ask me to march nowhere, because there's going to be consequences and repercussions that comes along if you allow him to be, you know, President of the United States. And every time we lose one of our soldiers or sisters by the hands of police. This man wants to make sure that they're immune to

prosecution because they was just doing their official act on their job. So I just don't understand it personally. I think it's just clickbait so we can talk about them. But they're going to find another way to get attention than that. For me, I'm looking at the issues where they come to. This is very important. This man is telling us right there in his own way that he's going to be a dictator. And he's already told us that if he loses, the only way he loses is because he's rigged. And a person such as myself being in the military for nine years, and the reason why we had many wars or deterred wars is because we fought for democracy

for a person to sit up there and say the only way that he could lose if it's rigged. I mean, so the same people that had so much problem with cabinet taking a knee for arms during the national anthem, and I want them to show that same energy for a person that's telling you right now that our democracy is rigged

even for one vote has been cast. Questions from my panel. Let's go to Amakongo, you first. Your question for Earthquake. Thank you so, so much for everything that you're doing and speaking up and just, you know, there's so much I want to say in terms of my appreciation for what you're doing. But my question for you is, what do you say to artists in different fields? You're talking about, you know,

comedy, but when I see other hip hop artists and other folks who have been so slow to get engaged in this political process, and some are still not speaking up now, even with Kamala. What do you say to them in terms of why they should get involved, like you are involved? Well, I mean, to be honest, it's for self-survival. I mean, for one reason in my community, when one of us something, we do something, they're looking for perfection. But when they vote for the others or anybody else, they overlook their character flaws or any flaws that they have. And I want to tell them this for once, and I challenge all black men, can we just once support a sister unconditionally? No, she is not perfect.

No one is. But compared to her competition, there ain't even no close comparison. I mean, she's more than qualified. Her competitor has no qualification. And if you was to take both of their names off of a sheet of paper and list all their qualifications, hey, man, you could see there is no comparison. I mean, so, I mean, they just don't understand the significance of this point right here and how them not, first of all, not being part of this and not using a platform to push this has affected all of us. And the ignorance can't be tolerated right now.

Please put your hands up. All right. Question, Renita, your question for Earthquake. Thanks, Earthquake, for being here. Just a quick question. What are you seeing in your community as it relates to the shift from Biden as the candidate to Kamala? You've talked a lot about black men tonight in your interview. So I guess I'm specifically asking you in the response and seeing Kamala move into this position. Well, I think Kamala is the person to articulate.

You know, unfortunately, President Biden couldn't articulate the difference between the issues the way he wanted to, so they was running roughshod around him. I think any man that dates black women, like I have done all my life, you can't beat a black woman in a debate, especially when she got the facts on her side. So I wish him the best of luck.

I have yet to have one. I think I'm great with words. Have never beat a black woman when the facts is on her side. I just like, I don't want to talk about it today. Julianne, your question for Earthquake. Okay, first of all, thank you for your work. Very commendable. Look at your school and look at the,

what do you see in 10 years with your school? Will you incorporate some global travel and some other things for the young people? Well, I'm not into this school myself, sister. I'm more of a, you know, I'm just a, I use my platform to just really, to be honest, my radio show, when I'm on stage and everything I do, just to educate the people that's in my position and say that they cannot stand on the sideline for this. And that I'll, like I just heard Ms. Powell, rest in peace, that our children is our future and we must let them know that, you know,

there's no sense of dying for Mercedes Benz 2024, cause they gonna make a one in 25, 26, 27. There you go. Well, thanks for the education that you're giving to our young people. What are your hopes and dreams for young people, though? I mean, to be better than we are, to expand us,

to show them that, personally speaking, and that's just on my personal feeling, that we're some of the greatest people that God has ever created creatively. We have done so much with so less. We're still surviving. There is no other race that could survive what we've been through. And I always tell people all the time that black people are the most patriotic people in the world because we love this country, support this country when this country didn't support and love us.

Thank you. All right. Earthquake. I appreciate it, man. Thank you so very much for joining us. Well, thank you, man. And make sure, man, tell everybody to come see me at the MGM on the 30th and 31st.

I'm going to be home in D.C. for big two shows. And Roland cannot dance. I don't know why you keep sitting here embarrassing yourself by saying that because you know you're going to get jacked up. So go on ahead. Go on. Get off. Go on. Get off this show before I embarrass you further with your no dancing

behind two left feet. I'm going to eat your chicken like that chick did. I'm going to eat you up the same way. embarrass you further with your no dancing behind. Two left feet. I'm going to eat your chicken like that chick did. I'm going to eat you up the same way. Okay, okay, Mr. Knock Knee. I'll holler at you later. I love you, man. Keep doing the good fight, man.

I love you, man. I appreciate it. Good fight. Peace. I will do. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. We got more of the show, but let me thank the panel. Let me thank Renita. Let me thank Julianna. I'm a Congo. Appreciate y'all being on today's panel.

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I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company

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They gave the awards out. Joining us right now is somebody who is a newbie to the game of golf. I have been watching her videos on Instagram. It has been quite painful. So I've had to actually send personalized videos to her to assist, of course, journalists, sports journalists, Detroit native, even though she's a 49ers fan, Jemele Hill. She's putting all my business in the street.

Well, I'm just saying. I mean, you know, I'm actually from Houston to cheer for all my teams as opposed to being from a city and you cheer for somebody way to hell on the West Coast. You don't know what that struggle was like, okay? We had the Oilers. I know. But at least they gave you –

Well, we did have a damn good team with Earl Campbell. Y'all didn't have nobody. No, it didn't start to turn a little corner until Barry. By that time, I was already too deep in my fandom. But glad to see you're in our city. And he is not lying. I will get random golf videos from Roland all the time, most of which are helpful. And I'm like, are you trying to tell me something?

I'm a newbie. Right, right, right. You're a newbie. I'm getting into this. Like, I mean, I heard you was kind of killing it out there on the golf course. That's what I heard. That's true. That's what I heard. That's true. That's what I heard.

I ain't going to lie. I was golfing my ball. But glad that you're here in our city. I know you've been here many, many times. But glad that you're here and supporting this wonderful cause. Absolutely. So talk about, again, what Jalen is doing with this school and just how crucial that is.

Oh, it's huge. I mean, listen, you know, Detroit is a city that's had many stunted comebacks, right? It's kind of gone like up, down, up, down. And Jalen is part of, you know, he got in on the ground floor. Before it was fashionable to invest in Detroit, before people really saw any real value and worth. And to do that through education is huge. And I like to think that LeBron James starting his own school in Akron, in some ways, he was influenced by Jalen Rose. Because to have a school for nearly 15 years and to produce some incredibly talented young people, I mean, Jalen is one of our shining

stars of the city. He is one of the unofficial mayors of Detroit, absolutely. So I couldn't be more proud of him. And just to see where he's taking this from, when the seed was first planted, when he first started coming out and talking about how he wanted to build a school to see where it is now, it's really remarkable progress.

And for folks who don't know, this is not Jalen just slapping his name on it. He's really, really, really involved in the school. Correct. He is really running it. And, you know, he, you could tell that he takes so much pride in making sure that it's excellent in every way. And so I just, as a Detroiter, it would be unfathomable not to support this. And I'm just really proud of him and proud of, like, all these investors that he's brought in and other people who can see that Detroit has a lot of bright spots. Like, I know a lot of times we only make the news for the wrong reasons, right?

But Detroit is one of those cities that is tough. It's got a gritty interior because nobody puts on for Detroit the way people from Detroit put on for Detroit. Last question for you. I got a text message moments ago that Donald Trump will be speaking Wednesday at the National Association of Black Journalists. Somebody just sent me a text.

I hit a couple of people, black people close to Trump, see if that's true. And I just told NABJ, don't let his ass come up in that line. I agree. Like in, in many ways, I think it's a, it's a good thing because look, Trump has continued to tout all these sort of false numbers about what he's done for black people during the course of his presidency. And this is an opportunity for him to be before, you know,

some of the most highlighted, celebrated journalists in the country who understand what it means to have a black agenda and what that actually is. So I don't know if they're picking you or who is sitting down with him for the fireside chat, but yes, he needs to be in a forum where he is questioned about a lot of the things that he's said and done. And I have to say, part of the reason why I didn't believe it was because I didn't think he had the guts to sit before 3,000 journalists and explain some of the things that he has said about our people, our community, and the policies. I mean, look, we all know what's in Project 2025 and he's tried to distance himself from that. But we know that's a lie. All his surrogates, they were the ones who came up with this.

And he has sanctioned this both publicly and privately. So he needs to answer for all those people who are like, I'm an independent thinker. All you black people have said that. Now you get an opportunity to hear what he actually has to say from people who i hope will question him in the way that he needs to be questioned but i'm shocked i gotta be honest it's still monday so uh supposed to be wednesday so well let me get this straight so i mean according to he hasn't said a debate with with vp harris and i know she's not officially he's made it he says not to participate in septth debate. OK, so he's going to sit before that many black journalists, but may or may not debate the presidential nominee. Some look some math ain't math to me. I got it. I got to see it. I got to see it. I'm waiting. So I hit one of his black people and they said he talked to one of his black people.

So they said they're talking to him at 8 o'clock, and the person's going to ask him if this is true. Again, I hope it is true, because if he has an agenda and something specific other than law and order that he would like to share with the black community, here's your forum to do it. All right, we'll see. We'll see.

I appreciate it. Okay. All right, back to the drive range. Keep sending me them golf tips. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Come on, Oakley. All right, y'all. So, All right, back to the drive range. Keep sending me them golf tips. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Come on, Oakley. All right, y'all. So, you know, one of the greatest enforcers in the NBA, Charles Oakley. Oh, he said he's the only one. For real?

You know, of course. What school you went to in Virginia? Virginia Union, you know. I want you to say, you know, everybody watching. Virginia Union. You know, one of the best historic black colleges there. There's a lot of them. I gave them a prop. I like what Deion done when he went to

Jacksonville State and made them a rental. Jackson State. Jackson State. And then what he doing? He just gave opportunity for black kids to go. It's okay to go to black school. Gotcha. And so, how's your golf game? Golf game is good. You know, you just take a lot of practice. And I'm getting there.

And like I said, Rome wasn't built overnight, so it takes time. Did you fight anybody in the course today? No, no, no. I don't do that no more. I gave it up about 10 years ago. 10? Yeah, 10 years. Official or unofficial? Official.

Alright, well, a lot of people may not realize this. You are a major chef. When did that start? It started probably like my second year in the league. I was a kid that, you know, my parents, my aunts and my, you know, grandparents were great cooks. And I think once you get into the league that, you know, you're single,

you got to make your own way around the kitchen and other places too. But it was just coming back from the road trips. I didn't want to go back out and just eat the same thing and I just, you know, just put little things together and started inviting guys over, you know. Hey, it was a good thing. Being the leader and having structure always go a long way when you've got a group of guys around.

All right, tell people quickly about your book. Great book. I've read it. The Last Enforcer. It's just a memoir about my life and how my grandparents and my mom and all my family members who helped raise me. But it just a memoir about my life and how my grandparents and my mom and all my family members who helped raise me. But it's a lot of stories about the NBA. Just a lot of good reading and laid back.

You'll really like the book. All right, man. It was always good to see you. I appreciate it. Keep handling your business. I will. You too. You the man.

Are we trying? I told you, my little nephew is an alpha. That's right. The black and gold. Tell him 06. All right. Appreciate it, baby. alpha. That's right. The black and gold. Tell him 06. All right. Appreciate it, baby. Appreciate it. All right. We tried to get Jalen. Hey, Jalen. Where's Jalen?

Tell Jalen we live. Can somebody tell Jalen we are actually live, waiting on him? I'm out here broadcasting from his golf tournament. I'm waiting to interview him, and he late. I'm trying to like, come on him. I'm out here broadcasting from his golf tournament. I'm waiting to interview him, and he late. I'm trying to like, come on, Jalen.

Mariah, where's Jalen? Can you let Jalen know we're live and I need him like in the flesh? My goodness. All right, let's do this here, folks. We lost a great sister, Erica Ash. Let's do this here. Let's play our in-memorial for Erica Ash. I'll come back, talk about her. We're going to play a package about her, and then we're going to actually interview Jalen Rose. So let's © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Folks, we were stunned. I was here playing. We were in a rain delay, and I saw a social media post. Someone texted me that Erica Ashe had passed away. I was stunned. I immediately jumped up, called her cell phone, called some folks who were in shows with her, Survivor's Remorse. She was in, you know, Real Husband of Hollywood.

And then I got a call from a very close friend of hers who's an actor who said, yeah, we lost her. She had cancer and she died last night. Stunned. I adored Erica. We had her on my shows.

Every time we saw each other, it was always great. I was in L. We had her on my shows. Every time we saw each other, it was always great. We had a I was in L.A. during COVID and we had a long conversation. We went to dinner. She had broken her back in Mexico, was almost paralyzed. And she talked about just all the stuff that she went through during COVID. And and I just lost for words because she was so vibrant. She was so amazing. She was so fantastic with full of energy, but she had been battling cancer, a mom released statement for 18 years. She never talked about it. She never talked about battling breast cancer. And so, so many people have been talking about remembering her. We sat down with her and Jesse T.

I talked to him earlier today and he was stunned hearing the news at the American Black Film Festival when I was at TV one. And so here's that conversation. Last season. And so. Disclaimer. So, you know, you might have character. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?

Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.

This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.

We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding

of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things.

Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves.

We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers, but we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. A wrap-away, you've got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else, but never forget yourself. Self-love made me a better dad because I realized my worth. Never stop being a dad. That's dedication. Find out more at fatherhood.gov.

Brought to you by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. Dies. And it was a little heavy. It was very heavy. Basically the entire season. No. It picked up in like the last two or three, but. It took a dark turn, didn't it?

Yeah. It went to dark comedy. I was kind of like, okay, did the comedy leave? Did it? Can we get it? Yeah, it turned to dark comedy. But I think we kind of... It was our homage to him and what he meant to our family.

I did, you know, I understand how some of the fans would be like, all right. But I think it kind of... I feel like it turned around after like maybe the third episode. I gave it the fifth. Really? Okay. It was still. It was a cloud that kind of, it stayed with us for a little bit. And then we had to find ways to bring the comedy back into that.

No, I understand what you mean. That's exactly what it felt like. Right. What it felt like. But I think that we did. And I think that that was one of the biggest challenges for us, like in growing our characters and figuring out what life meant after Uncle Julius. That was a challenge for the writers and a challenge for us to find the funny and what material we were presented.

And so, you know, I think when we found it, we found it. And then, of course, I mean, which is a natural part of life anyway because you experience this heartbreak. You experience things along those lines, but you still have to have, life still has to go on. Absolutely. That's true. Absolutely. All right, so this upcoming season, so the promos are saying you're back on the court. Okay, I don't really know what that means.

That's just what they say. The proverbial court, home court, if you will. Right. You're not going to sit and play basketball. That was a strategic decision, right? Absolutely. Yeah, that's a whole other can of worms you have to open. Right. You're not going to play basketball. That was a strategic decision, right? Absolutely. Yeah, that's a whole other

can of worms you have to open. Right, right. If you, you know, you have to get players, you have to get cheerleaders, you got to get, you know, thoughts.

It's a whole bunch of stuff. You got to get thoughts. You got to get thoughts. You got to get thoughts. You got to get thoughts. You got to get thoughts. What's a good playoff game without a couple thoughts?

Yeah, precisely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We wanted to keep the focus on the family. And so if you bring in that element, it takes the focus away, and then you've got to kind of juggle two storylines, two separate sides of the storyline. Right.

So really, I mean, the reality is the basketball piece has always sort of been the thing in the background. So it's kind of like, yeah, he's a player, but here's the other side of it. Absolutely. So your character was a little, has always been ignorant. Has always been ignorant. This is that defiant Paul D. No, I mean, let's just be real.

I mean, whether or not it was freaking the other woman in the bathroom at the club. We just talked about that. We did. And she was talking about how, you know, how she goes into the writer's room and, you know, she brings up these storylines and she talks about where she wants the character to go and how great they are at involving that into, you know, what comes to life.

And I was saying, so that one was. That was not mine. You sure? That was not mine. That seemed like an idea that you might have said. It was not mine. You know, like, I want to get some excitement into M. Chuck's life and I'm thinking about doing this they actually did bring that

to me and they were like okay listen we haven't gotten anything juicy from you in terms of that so can we get a little something and I was like okay let's do it so if you could if you could say in a few words what people should expect, not giving anything away, for the new season, what is that? You're definitely going to be able to expect resolution. You're going to be able to expect self-discovery. And ignorance. Lots of ignorance. As is the Lots of Ignis. As is the survivors of Black Widow.

But also a change in the power dynamic. You see that happen a lot amongst the characters, how they deal with each other as well as the world around them. It changes a lot in the fourth season. But also your show has now grown up because when you debuted, you were paired with, I think you came on Saturdays when you launched and then What they paired with it was you on we were

Alone, but I remember how they marketed now you're pushed into August Uh-huh, cuz now you're kind of like yo what what they're not gonna wait another month right? What's up for the show right and so it feels even more like you were sort of this Stand-alone show I'm watching how stars, I'm watching how they're stacking shows. I'm watching how, so I see Power debuting later in June or whatever. And y'all are launching literally two months after that. Yeah, basically when they're finished is when we're gonna jump in. You know, but last season they paired us right after Power.

So Power would air and then immediately after Survivor. That's what I'm saying. So now... Uh-huh. Now I feel like we might have, I feel like maybe we've earned uh y'all grown up we've grown up we got our own thing it's a Sunday night last season from the season before and so you know and a lot of that is people talking about it we haven't done so much more in terms of our publicity and press and so it's just that the word is really spreading you know we definitely got a leg up going after power last season so that was helpful because a lot of people just didn't know where to find us so then once they were

able to find us it's like oh wait what's this show then they got real then and then you know now we are we we have our legs underneath the social media as well being able to really go back and forth with folks oh yeah. That's one of my favorite parts about being on the show is get to talk to people like during the premiere and right after, that's one of the best parts, you know, to see their reaction to the work that we put in because we put in a lot of preparation, a lot of work. Put a lot of work.

So how many episodes this year? 10. 10 episodes, okay. Yeah. All right, we're certainly looking forward to it. And again, tell Mike Mike I'm still expecting there to be an interview moment with your basketball-playing character and an Ascot-wearing journalist. I don't understand what the problem is.

I don't understand why. Why is Roland Martin not on the show? I'm just saying. I mean, I'm just saying. We got one mission. I'm just saying. I mean, I'm just saying. We got one mission. I'm just saying. I mean, you know, there are very few shows I live tweet to my million five followers. I'm just saying.

Just saying. You know, that I put the Roro stamp on. But I'm just saying, you know, I'm just saying, Mike, you know, it'd be nice. You got other people extras. You know, I'm just saying. I mean, I'm just saying, Mike, you know, it'd be nice. You've got other people extras. You know, I'm just saying. I mean, I'm just saying. Can you have a news conference and I'm sitting there? I'm just saying.

Right, right. I mean, it ain't that hard. There's a lot of possibilities. I mean, it ain't that hard. You know what? I think, I just, I don't know why this just came to me, but maybe when we do our writers pitch meeting, why don't we pitch rolling?

I was just thinking that. Let's pitch rolling. Because at the beginning of every year, they always say, like, you know, what direction do you want the show to go in? What you thinking about the character, this and that? I'm going to say, you know, there's something that's been missing. See, I got a thinking that. At the beginning of every year, they always say, what direction do you want the show to go in? What are you thinking about the character? I'm going to say, there's something that's been missing. I got a better one.

See, when y'all let me know when y'all don't have a writer's pitch meeting, and you say, we got an idea, then boom, doors open. You're going to walk out. And he walks in. And Scott, with two cameras and some lights. And they still not going to know what the heck we talking about. Oh, they going to know. They're going to be like, figure it out.

Oh, man. I am absolutely going to miss her. Every time we got together, it was laughs and jokes and a serious conversation, too. But Erica Ash, y'all, was a beautiful soul. I adored her. It was, you know, that night we all went out and hung out and partied. And so we're absolutely going to miss her. 46 years old.

And, folks, they just tell you, you got to live life. I tell you, my hashtag is hashtag live life, love it. That's what you have to do. And you got no choice. So Erica Ash, dead at the age of 46. All right, folks, we're going to go to a quick break and come right back. We're going to chat with Jalen Rose. His golf tournament is over.

We're going to talk about his school, this tournament, and some good stuff. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network live at the Detroit Golf Club here for the 14th annual Jalen Rose Celebrity Golf Classic. Good job, good pay, good life. Would you be willing to walk away from it to achieve real wealth? Well, that's exactly what this woman did. And boy, did it pay off.

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i had scheduled issues for a couple of eating wave but was like, say, bro, you invited me to the golf tournament. I had schedule issues for a couple of years anyway, but Jalen hit me about a month ago and said, man, I got to have you at the tournament. And so we're here. And of course, you know, wherever I go, I bring my cameras with me. And so we're doing the show here. And so joining us right now is Jalen Rose. Man, you had this 14th year

for this tournament, benefiting for your school. And I was talking to you earlier early, and I tell people, you actually, it ain't like your name on it. You involved in the school. Yes. And it's a labor of love, Roland. And I thank you and Black Star Network for being here.

You know, I'm a huge fan of yours and Roland Martin Unfiltered being here to cover it. And you helped me sleep good last night because sometimes I get very frustrated because I understand that white media in a lot of ways won't promote the work that we're doing because my school is 100% black. It's in the inner city and we influence high school kids. Normally when people come to influence our community, they do it when we're small. And I'm going to teach you a reason why,

because we're not as threatening. We're not a Tamir Rice. We're not a young person that they feel like, okay, may be a threat. So they wanna get us where we're second grade, third grade, where you have parental involvement. So I opened up a school, not politically driven, not a part of a network, we're open enrollment,

we're tuition free, we're public charter. And I literally wanted to start with high school young people because we're underserved. The United States sells us a dream that you're going to get a high school diploma. You throw your hat in the air, we, but you can't work at McDonald's with a high school diploma. So we instituted a nine through 16 model, two year, four year college, cosmetology, trade school, military, whatever young people choose to get into. I'm there to support them. So 14 years, 10 graduating classes, 400 in high school, another 1,000 alums.

And I used to, like I said, get very mad at the love we didn't get. For you to be the number one person in the game doing what you do, it means everything to me for you to be here. So I thank you and your team. I appreciate it. You had the student volunteers. I talked to a couple of them earlier as well. And one of the things that you made clear why you have to have this tournament,

and look, I'm very familiar with charter schools. I've covered the issues for years, is that the resources that you get goes to the education of the kids, not the facilities at all. At all. And here's the thing about, I've been in so many legislative meetings where it's like public school versus charter school and newsflash, we are a public school. And what I learned is the UAW and the teachers union are the number one and two donors of the Democratic Party. So therefore, the teachers are fighting to keep what they consider an opportunity to keep their jobs forever. So if you come to a charter school, you forfeit that. It's called tenure. If you go and be a teacher two or

three years, you get tenure, you can put your feet on the desk, Roland, and you have to like literally like sexually assault a kid live on camera to lose your job. But those that choose to go to charter schools, they give up their tenure. And that is what makes it political. So they talk to us about stealing their students. No, we're educating young people. And as somebody that went to a public school in Detroit, that founded a charter school in Detroit, I understand the impact that this has on young people.

And so it's very gratifying to continue to raise money and put them in positions to be successful and we can't be stopped. And see, the thing that I tell folks, I mean, you might have a traditional school that's been failing for a long time. They'll build a new facility that could be 30, 40, 50, 60 million dollars, and it's no big deal, but it can't happen here. And also, it's a delivery system. There are multiple ways to educate kids. And so people always ask me, man, how can you be black? You support charter schools. I said, listen, I went to public schools my entire life. I believe in every form of

education if it works. If it don't work, my whole deal is shut it down. Anybody that says, how can you be black and believe in charter schools? It's almost like somebody is black and want to vote for Trump. Like that's literally how I digest what you just said. We are a public school. We're underfunded. We're tuition-free. We public charter. I took over an elementary school and converted it into a high school.

The building was an eyesore. The windows were broken. The plumbing was taken out. It was literally an eyesore in a community. And I took that facility and turned it into a high school to educate the high school kids that continue to support young people once they graduated from high school. So the idea that we're not doing the work that's 10 toes down and planting the seed, that's just not accurate. That's ignorant. And if you're perpetuating that tail, you just don't

understand the work that we do one of the things that uh one of the other reasons why i wanted to be here is because now we did this going back years and i was at washington watch with tv1 uh where we went to the nba all-star game and we covered all of the philanthropic things that athletes were doing so i think one of the problems that we, what media does, media focuses on athletes, they focus on cars, they focus on jewelry, they focus on all bling bling. And then when one retires, all the stories about who went broke, things along those lines, but there are many former athletes who are still involved in the community, who are still doing

work, and there's life after sports. And so it's important to show that so people understand that you can do more than just bounce a ball, throw a ball, or catch a ball. Absolutely. And I love the movie Rocky, and I use this for inspiration. It's like the world is a mean and nasty place. It'll beat you to your knees and keep you there if you let it. It's not how hard you hit, it's how hard you can get hit and keep on going.

And there are so many times I got frustrated, Roland. Like I'm the first former athlete to have a podcast or entertainer. I'm one of the only athletes or entertainers to be the founder, the president of the board and the chief fundraiser of his own school in the neighborhood that he grew up in. So when I go to bed at night,

I look at the landscape way different than everybody else. And sometimes I really get frustrated, not only at what I'll call mass media, but also our people, because I gotta tell you, Roland, you're here to cover us you ain't gotta fight nobody for elbow room ain't nobody else here right i see people with radio shows tv shows podcasts and i'm gonna challenge our people we gotta stop only showing up when we getting paid y'all come to the hood y'all want to sell us your podcast you want to sell us your weed you want to

sell us your liquor you want us to follow your movement you want us to us your podcast. You want to sell us your weed. You want to sell us your liquor. You want us to follow your movement. You want us to buy your book. But you're not showing up when you're not getting paid. And that used to frustrate me so much. And then I started to invest in the people that actually get on the air. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

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Brought to you by AARP and the Ad Council. Playing, bringing their show here and take the time to highlight the work that we're doing. To love on the people that are investing their money, their energy into our young people. And so that allowed me to kind of decompress and just continue the path forward. Because I hear a lot of false prophets in our community talking about the work they're doing talk about the work they're gonna do but we 14 years in 10 graduating classes we got 1400 students and it speaks for itself well that's one of the reasons why look i got a bunch of these people out here calling themselves new black media

and they always say oh y'all oh you ain't doing nothing i'm like but it's amazing how much black stuff i go to and they ain't never there and that's also why i tell an audience probably they gotta support us we're fighting the advertising battle against these advertisers who won't invest in black black-owned media but also why giving to shows important because their resources allows me to be able to travel here and other places and cover these stories. And as you said, yeah, there were a couple of media, but for the most part, no. And we're in Detroit. Where's the black media in Detroit? Where's the black media in Detroit?

Where's the black media on IG, on Twitter, or X? Where's the black media that has radio shows, podcasts? They talk about giving back to our culture. Like, this is what I do. I'm 10 toes down. You see the work that's happening. And it be crickets when it's time to support one another. So I'm forever grateful for you, my brother. You're a terrific golfer, but I love the fact that you brought your show here. I want you to know you bringing your show here means everything to me, my brother, because the work that we do ain't going to be on the header of your IG. It's not going to be on the front page of the newspaper. And I'm going to tell you why.

Because I'm educating inner city high school black kids. Yep. That's why if I didn't look like me and I was from a different demographic, I might could run for president of the United States. But since I'm me doing this work in Detroit, it's going to be dismissed. It's going to be ignored. So I'm going to continue to do the work. And I'm very grateful that you showed up today. For folks out there, if they want to support, where do they go? What's the website to go to to support Jalen Rose Leadership Academy? Please go to jrladetroit.com.

We have 15,000 Trojan, Detroit, Michigan, 48235. You can call the school. I basically am there all of the time. And we need your support. Let me give you an example. I went to the University of Michigan. And I love the Maize and Blue. But they've been fundraising for that school since the 1800s. They always need a new building.

They always need a new curriculum. They always need something else to support what they're doing. And they got a multi-billion dollar endowment. And so what I want to ask you is stand on it. When you come to Detroit, artists, athletes, entertainer, put up at the school. Our kids look up to you. Yeah, drive by. They idolize you. They want to be like you. They want to meet you. To any donors, put another zero on that donation. Because if you're able to allow you to any donors put another zero on that donation because if you're able to allow me to take lemons and create lemonade i've shown you i can change lives that's it my brother i love you great job congratulations keep doing the thing and glad to be here thank you appreciate it thanks

a bunch all right folks jayden rose that is it for us here roland martin on filtering the black star network i want to thank everybody. He has some wonderful celebrities. Katsu, we're here. Always good to see all of them. And so we thank all of you as well. We're going to... Appreciate it, baby. We're going to have the Master P and Ben Crump interviews. We're going to hold

those tomorrow. So here's the deal. Tomorrow, I'm going to be in Chicago tomorrow. I'm leaving Detroit tomorrow morning to go to Chicago. At noon, there's a rally for Sonia Massey that is taking place I'm going to be in Chicago tomorrow. I'm leaving Detroit tomorrow morning to go to Chicago at noon. There is a rally for Sonia Massey that is taking place in Chicago at 6 p.m. Chicago time, 7 p.m. Eastern. There's going to be a mass rally taking place for her at a church there.

Give me a second. Just give me a second. Ben Crump sent this to me. Give me a second. Just give me a second. Ben Crump sent this to me. Give me one second. Let me let y'all know where it 6 p.m. Central Standard Time. We will be live from there tomorrow with the show. That's at 7 p.m. Eastern. We'll be live tomorrow beginning at 6 p.m. Eastern, 5 o'clock Chicago time, covering the Sonia Massey news conference at noon

and this rally at a church at Mount Pilgrim tomorrow evening. So we look forward to that. So I'm still going to be on the road, not back in D.C., so we want you all to certainly support us in what we do. Again, how can you support us? Our goal is to get 20,000 of our fans contributing, on average, 50 bucks each. That's $4.19 a month, 13 cents a day. If 20,000 of our fans contribute 50 bucks each, that's a million dollars.

That goes to this show, being able to cover the stories that matter to you. Because, listen, no one paid me to come here. No one's paying me to cover the Sonia Massey events tomorrow. We cover it because it's important to our community. So you can send your check and money order P.O. Box 57196 Washington, D.C. 20037-0196. Cash Shappers, dollar sign RM unfiltered. PayPal is RM unfiltered. Venmo is RM unfiltered.

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folks. That's it. I'll see you tomorrow from Chicago, right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Oh, shout out to my sister, LaVita. Her birthday was yesterday. So happy birthday, LaVita, on your birthday. All right, folks, that's it. I'll see you out tomorrow from Chicago on the Black Star Network. Holla! Black Star Network is here.

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