#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Cleveland Public Safety Partnership,Possible Trump Indictment, US State Depart Lack Of Diversity
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Martel. All right, folks, it has been four months since Sean Quillen Robinson was killed in Mexico while vacationing with friends or family.
North Carolina activists, they sent hundreds of letters to Mexico authorities to demand justice in her death.
Sarah on Saturday, the group marched to a local post office to mail the pink letters asking Mexican authorities to do more to arrest the person or the persons responsible for her death.
In November, Mexican officials began investigating the incident as a homicide.
A warrant for one of the people on vacation with Robinson has been issued, but no arrest has been made.
Joining us now from Charlotte, North Carolina, is John Barnett, a national civil rights activist.
He helped organize the March and the letter campaign. So, John,
again, so they announced a
warrant, but my goodness,
three months go by, no arrest.
What are they saying to the family?
The FBI
said, you know, they're at a point where they've done
everything they can do, and this,
we have to keep in mind, this is not
in Sanford, Florida with Trayvon, this is not in
Ferguson with Michael Brown, this is in in Sanford, Florida, with Trayvon. This is not in Ferguson with Michael Brown.
This is in Mexico.
And they're very, very slow there.
A speeding ticket might take eight months, where in Charlotte it might take 60 days.
So that's our challenge.
So that's why we targeted Mexico to send letters to them to let them know how serious we are about the life of Sean Keller Robinson.
And it's very unfortunate because, you know, the FBI said we've pretty much done everything we could.
Uh, it's up to Mexico now.
So now we're applying the pressure to Mexico.
And, uh, yours truly may be going to Mexico
to initiate some civil rights demonstrations there.
I'm learning about their amendments and the whole nine.
But my goal is to go there,
and I'm giving them a time frame, 60 days,
if I don't hear nothing back from these letters,
because I'm sure by tomorrow morning,
we had to spend $1.45 to send the letters over,
which is the norm is like 40, 50 cents.
So we sent a lot of letters over.
So I'm sure they're going to get about 500 letters,
maybe more in their mailbox on this Wednesday or Thursday,
whatever time it arrives in Mexico,
including President Joe Biden.
And I want to thank you, Mr. Martin, real quick,
because your show was instrumental in us
pushing the movement for Emmett Till.
Because of your show and a couple small shows
similar to yours, we were able to,
Joe Biden actually watched the Emmett Till movie
inside the White House with the family that I work with,
Ms. Priscilla Sterling and her family.
So I want to thank you for being the first to run the Emmett Till story for us
because it was very successful.
And now Joe Biden is going to prayerfully get on board with us
about executing the warrant for her.
That's another story, though.
And obviously the FBI is involved, but the State Department,
have they said anything to you or the family?
Are they involved in this as well?
Yes, they contacted.
Actually, I had the family, the mother and the daughter at my lawyer's office, Charles Everidge here in Charlotte, North Carolina.
He allowed me to use the space to meet.
And they actually called, the FBI called while we were in the meeting.
And it was a female.
And she had basically told the mother that we're doing something very special. And they did say that they that Shankrola Robinson's case was at the top, top priority for them.
So we'll see how that works out. But they they have they really been communicating very much so with the family, I guess, from the pressure of, you know, the media exposure that she's gotten.
But it's still moving too slow for us. I told a reporter yesterday that if Shankar Robinson's name was Madonna or Britney Spears, those six individuals, the Cabo six would be locked up by now.
Absolutely. And look, it is a very long time here.
And so do you have this campaign. How many letters were actually sent? I think we emailed and we sent letters this past Saturday at Little Rock
Ames and Church of Charlotte. I would say almost close to 800 were sent.
And we did both email and we did letters. We had over close to 150 people marching with us.
And we also sent letters to President Joe Biden as well.
We're trying to get Vice President Kamala Harris to use this as a little push for her sitting in
that seat. We really was kind of targeting her, you know, to get on board with us as well. She's
a female. She should be able to connect with this case. So we sent the letters also to President
Joe Biden. He got a lot of letters.
Right then. Well, John, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
And keep up the good work and keep us abreast of what happens next in this case.
We sure will. Thank you for you.
Folks, my panel today, I'm going to talk to them when we come back. My panel, Dr. Julianne Malveaux. She is the dean of the College of Ethnic Studies, California State University, Los Angeles. Dr. Amakongo Dabinga, senior professorial lecturer, School of International Service, American University.
Renita Shannon, Georgia State representative. So we're going to go to a break. We'll chat with them when we come back about this case and some other news as well. I'm Roland Martin, unf Unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network.
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All right, let's go to my panel here.
We're going to talk about the Sean Queller Robinson story.
And Representative Shannon, I want to start with you because here's the reality. Look, when you start dealing
with international situation, it is not the same as Johnson, it is not the same as a domestic
situation. And so there's limited things the federal government, the United States can
actually do when something like this happens in another country.
Absolutely. You're right. There's a limited role that our federal government can play. And I feel
like at this point, this is almost where individual citizens do have the ability to play a larger role.
And I say that because if folks start talking about not choosing Mexico as a place to go for
your next vacation until something is actually done about this case, I do think that
you possibly would see some movement. You know, in all this time, I feel like I haven't heard
anything about this case since you last talked about it on your show, Roland. That's really
problematic because I'm just thinking that every day as time continues to go by, the folks who
were responsible for her death are not being interviewed. I suspect that they are probably not,
you know, having to put any
testimony or anything on the record. And so with that, you have time for things to change. You have
time for people to come sort of, you know, avoid telling the truth. And so this is just very,
very disturbing. It is a Congo. And the reality is what the family is doing, what the activists are doing.
All that's necessary because you have to keep the attention on stories like this.
Otherwise, let's just be real clear.
Shonkwela Robinson is not that white woman who disappeared.
What was it, Aruba? And I swear Fox News was what they still doing stories on her being missing?
This is what happens when Black women come up missing or even killed.
Every single day.
And without networks like the Black Star Network, it does not get attention.
And it's important that we continue to keep our voices raised and our feet moving on this
and the letter-writing campaigns.
And we have to do more in all of our platforms. I would add, however, that when it comes to international pressure,
I believe the United States can indeed do more, because the fact of the matter is,
we have Joe Biden, who spent a 10-hour train ride going to Kyiv, you know, as we mark the one year
commemorate, what, one year since the war in Ukraine started. And they've moved heaven and
earth in terms of the tanks and all of these other types of things. And many of us support
Ukraine independence. But can we get some vocal support at the very least? Can we get some
commentary so that people, the government in Mexico can know that we're putting the entire
nation on blast as it relates to what the leadership is going to do there?
This is a citizen of our country that was killed in their territory. And so I believe that whether it's Vice President Kamala Harris,
whether it's Biden, if they really, they've been doing incredible things, you know, to mark Black
History Month and, like, as your last guest said, showing tail in the light. But there's some things
on the ground happening right now that we need them to help lend their voice to. And the issues relating to missing Black girls
and missing Black women is a serious issue in our community and continues to be.
So, I wish that they would use some more of their influence to, at the very least,
publicly raise their voice on these issues and get the State Department and other people more
involved publicly, because they're doing a lot around the world. And this is definitely something
that they can lend their voice and do other actions as well to make something happen on the ground
there. Julian, again, so many of these stories don't get the attention. If we want to talk about racism in mainstream media, this is a perfect example.
You can't you cannot convince me that a white woman is murdered by her husband or murdered by a friend. disappeared every single network broadcast or cable would have reporters down in mexico
on this story every single day this is what happens and so again the mexican authorities
that's one thing what i'm talking about the lack of attention white mainstream media if people need
to understand why black owned media, because let's be clear,
it's a whole bunch of black targeted media ain't discussing this story. This is why we matter.
You know, Roland, you're absolutely right. And it's very galling that, first of all,
people know who did this, this woman. They have video. They know who did it.
So that, but it was done in Mexico, so therefore, nothing will happen
except for the Mexican authorities doing arrests.
And of course, the international piece
makes it more complicated. But you're right.
What was her name? Natalie Holloway.
There was that little runaway bride
who basically... Weeks of coverage.
And she was just hiding out
because she didn't want to get married.
And so this is a dead woman, a sister who was killed.
And people are like, it's radio silent, except for Roland Martin unfiltered, except for you.
You know, we don't hear about this.
But the disappearance of black women, the disregard for black women, let's just put it that way, it's endemic. So it's the misogynoir,
as my young people say, beyond misogyny, but a special kind of misogyny that hits black women,
which means it's okay to discard us. It's okay to overlook us. I mean, this is a horrible case.
Renita has a really great point too. What if we boycott in Mexico? What if even 5 percent of the people who said they were going to Mexico said, no, I'm not going because I'm not safe?
And that would make a huge difference in terms of moving folks.
But the president ought to say something. The vice president ought to say something.
But even more than that, we ought to say something. And, you know, you're doing it here, but you're right. Black, where is, call the roll, you know, BET, call the roll, Black targeted media. We need
Black media and we need more regard for Black women. It just is not happening,
despite the fact that Black women hold up more than half of the sky in black America.
Yeah. And like I say, you have, of course, the individuals, they were her so-called friends. They went down there. You know, she she's dead.
Her stuff comes. They literally bring her stuff back to her parents.
They know they know exactly what the hell happened. So certainly what is needed is for U.S. authorities to put pressure on Mexican authorities to move
because we have seen this in other countries.
We've seen where they actually prioritize.
And the United States also, we do have leverage.
There are things that we can deny Mexico by saying, hey, we need you to get involved
in this. And so this absolutely matters. You cannot have a situation where this black woman
is killed in Mexico and an arrest warrant issued, but nothing done. That to me is also even crazier,
nothing done whatsoever. And so our parents want answers, but they also want justice.
And none of us would want to see our sister or niece or cousin, aunt or mother go there killed.
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Renita, quickly before I go to break uh you know we have this segment here
and here's again what's baffling to me we do this every single day every single day
and what ends up happening you don't see these these people being covered elsewhere i mean
black people are missing mainstream media doing nothing. Right.
And as you showed the picture of this young woman missing, two things occurred to me.
Number one, whenever we have black and missing, it's more often black women or black femmes that you are showing.
And then number two, like you said, where is the rest of black media to have a black and missing section?
Maybe if all the black media, whether you're talking about print,
podcasts, radio show,
maybe if they all got together and even just copied your list
just to amplify the folks that are missing,
maybe something would happen.
So I know we got to cut to a break,
but that's what stood out to me.
Again, we see this over and over and over again.
And Julian, I just don't understand.
And we know we have a human trafficking problem in this country.
And we do these stories, and it's crazy to me,
individuals have been missing for a month or two or three months,
and you don't hear their names anywhere.
Other than when we talk about it, you're not hearing it.
You're not seeing this raise up to a critical crisis.
You know, and if these were white people, you know, it would be on the front page of
the New York Times.
The fact is that Black life is cheap to many people.
That's why the Black Lives Matter movement is so important.
It's reminding us of Black life, the vitality of it, the importance of it, the significance of it.
When you every show roll and you've got somebody who's been missing.
And like you said, for a month, two months, three months.
And again, why does that the mainstream media do more about this?
Because they don't care and because they don't have to, because their news directors don't give a darn, because their editors don't give a darn. And I keep my language clean
today, but because they don't really care about us. And if we had the FBI has task forces,
task force for that, why not a task force of missing black women? And Renita's right. I mean,
when we look at these very rarely, every now and then, very rarely is it a young man. Usually it's a young sister.
And it probably is not only human trafficking, but some other things that are equally nefarious.
We need to keep the media accountable.
Indeed. All right, folks, hold tight one second. When we come back, we'll talk about the frauds over at Fox News
and how they supported election, the lies of Donald Trump on the air,
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They're being sued by Dominion Voting Systems, fighting to show how Fox intentionally lied to their viewers about election problems.
Last week, Dominion attorneys released parts of a 200-page legal filing from a Delaware state court alleging Fox Corporation
knowingly aired false information about its software switching votes for views and political pressure.
Dominion filed a defamation lawsuit against Fox News and its parent company in 2021 for $1.6 billion. Folks, various text messages, emails and testimony show top Fox executives and hosts
doubled doubted election fraud claims and were concerned about how the conservative audience
might receive fact checking. Fox said they covered Trump's allegations about voter fraud
as any other news organization and is protected by freedom of speech. In a public statement,
Fox said there will be a lot of noise and confusion protected by freedom of speech. In a public statement, Fox said
there will be a lot of noise and confusion generated by Dominion and their opportunistic
private equity owners, but the core of this case remains about freedom of the press and freedom
of speech. Well, not really true, Omokongo, because what it revealed is they knew there were lies. Tucker Carlson,
Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity saying one thing privately, saying something else on the air,
that's where they're going to have some serious issues.
Oh, absolutely. And let's not forget, it goes all the way to the top of the chain with Rupert Murdoch,
who brought up a couple of issues here and there, but never shut it down.
And their executive at Fox said that they were going to keep this going.
And this was all because that they were luring viewership to Newsmax.
And so they decided that they needed to go as extreme as they needed to keep their base.
The highest two network shows on cable, Tucker Carlson and Hannity, are full of hosts who
just lie.
And then, really, at the end of the day, we have seen Tucker Carlson and Hannity are full of hosts who just lie. And really, at the end of the
day, we've seen Tucker Carlson in a video late last year, and he was talking about, when I put
up against pressure, I lie. I lie all of the time. So the top network hosts are just liars. And
really, we have to understand the sponsors of these shows. They should be really concerned.
If they haven't pulled out by now, when are they going to do it? And this is why I say the insurrection is ongoing, because these guys, unless hopefully they do lose to this Dominion lawsuit, unless there's some type of technicality or something, they are part video of the insurrection, like 40,000 hours or something,
I don't know how many thousands of hours, gave it to Tucker Carlson, not every media outlet,
but gave it to him specifically for him to comb through. This is Putin loving Tucker Carlson.
Who knows what they're going to do with that video? There's secret locations that are going
to be there. And so you would think that Kevin McCarthy would have better judgment with what just came out with this news story last week about how much they lie.
But he is also in the pocket of Trump's base and of Fox News as well. And more media outlets should
be demanding that something be done. I don't know if there's any government intervention that could
be done with something like what Kevin McCarthy has done. But this network is full of liars from top, and I'm not going to say to bottom,
because there were a lot of producers and other people there that actually were trying to fact
check them. But what did Tucker Carlson do in one text exchange? He said, get this woman fired.
She's hurting our bottom line. They were scared of Trump's base, and they were scared of Newsmax,
and they were interested in profits over the truth. And now here we are.
The fact here, Julian, these are expert liars. These, what the documents really show,
Fox News was scared to death of these white conservative viewers fleeing to Newsmax or One America News. And so they chose to move forward with the lie, all out of profit. It shows you that these people have no principles,
they have no morals, they have no values, they have no conviction.
Are you surprised, Roman? I mean, this has been, here's the bottom line, though. Dominion has a
very good lawsuit against Fox, because that company, that corporation, has been basically demeaned.
They said that Dominion had lied.
This is a publicly traded company.
And so we will look at what's happened to their stock as a result of these people essentially deciding to lie on them.
Now, I'm not surprised that anything that comes out of any of them, call the roll, Tucker, Hannity, Laura Ingraham, as you say, they're all liars. And they're
practicing that. I call Laura Ingraham a high priestess of prevarication because she wouldn't
know a lie if it slapped her in the head. But all of them. But the question is, what other than
suing, what recourse do we as consumers have?
Now, not me, because I don't watch Fox, but some folks do.
But what recourse do consumers have by being because they've been misled?
Is there anything that people can do about these lies?
And the answer, under their rule of freedom of speech, is probably no.
So we're disgusted, but even as we're disgusted, we understand that this is the game they're ginning up for 2024 when there's going to be a whole nother set of lies and a
whole nother set of liars. So it's, it's just look at Ms. Dickie Haley. I'm not going to run.
She's running. I mean, they don't know truth. They don't know truth. And so because they don't
know truth, the public is being misled. And what can I don't think there's very much we can do about it except for be individually vigilant to look at your Black Star Network and, you know, the truth that you bring to the table and a few others.
But there's not a lot of other people who are dedicated to truth.
And I mean by that, the major networks who would who have that.
This should be an investigation by somebody.
Come on.
Well, absolutely.
And, Renita, look,
what is so dastardly about what these folks did,
I mean, they are giving air.
They are knowingly airing lies.
And then has
the temerity to get mad at other folks who call
them out on their lies by saying, oh no, we're fair and balanced. Oh no, it's the
mainstream media. They knew Sidney Powell was a hack. They knew Rudy Giuliani
was a hack. They even refused to let
Trump call in on January 6th.
Fox News is complicit, is complicit in the destroying of democracy in America.
Absolutely.
You're only 100% correct.
And I hope that Dominion will not only go after Fox Corporation, but go after folks like Tucker Carlson who individually spew these lies.
Yes, the press has freedom of speech. And, yes, there's such a thing as the media having a certain type of right to present certain things. But they were going much further than that. They were
saying they had evidence that these machines had flipped votes and that there was evidence of fraud.
This was their lie was so pervasive that even in Georgia, we had to sit through committee meetings,
day-long committee meetings, Rudy Giuliani coming for our community, our committee, to
talk about how he knew that there had been fraud in the elections.
But the thing that I could never understand that was so stupid about this entire strategy
for anybody who actually supports Trump is that, when you look at the data, Trump won
on the machines.
Where he lost was the absentee ballot.
So why would you attack the machines and
say that the Dominion machines had cost him the election when all the data showed Trump won on
the machines? It was the absentee ballots that actually did things like have Georgia flip in the
presidential election. And that is the reason why you saw across the country after the election,
Republicans nationwide started going after how we use and access to absentee ballots.
So the whole thing never made any sense. And like I said, I hope that Dominion not only goes after Fox Corporation, but that they go after everyone who individually told these lies.
And I hope that they get a settlement that is so large that it literally bankrupts Fox as a news channel.
Indeed. And on the Congo, it would be absolutely great to see them lose because liars need to pay for their actions.
They are the number one promoters of not only misinformation, but disinformation.
This is their brand. And, I mean, you have people
going to jail. You got the Ashby Babbage of the world losing their lives over these lies.
And so if people really still think that lies sell and that that's going to take you to the
top, especially if they lose this lawsuit, this could be the departure point, Roland,
for people to finally decide that we're going to get back to fact-based journalism
and fact-based information. Because as, was it, Johnny Cockman used to say, you hit people in
their pocketbooks and their hearts and minds will follow. I mean, we have to also remember
that not only do we have what they're doing at Fox, but as Joe Madison says, we have all of
these backbenchers, you know, on these AM dials, on these lesser-known radio stations and on the
YouTubes and in the podcasts and all of these other networks who are also magnifying the lie. And so just as
some of these court cases, they haven't fully got Alex Jones yet. Hopefully they're still going to
get him, you know, because he's claiming he doesn't have any money right now. But I think
they're still going to end up getting him eventually. If Fox get hits in the way that
Renita is talking about as well, these backbenchers, they should understand that they're going to be next.
So why not actually focus on facts? Why not actually focus on having some fact based journalism and really get to the point where you're covering your own behind?
Because it's just a matter of time before they come for you, too. But it can happen soon enough.
Indeed, indeed. All right, folks, when we come back, we're going to talk about the attack on AP Black Studies programs
from other states beyond Florida.
Also, speaking of Florida,
how do you celebrate Black History Month by putting kids in blackface?
We're going to...
My head is hurting even thinking about that.
All right, so we're going to discuss that next.
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So, all right, anytime you see an utterly ridiculous
crazy outlandish nonsensical story what automatically comes to mind must be
smarter that is the case a Miami daycare is catching lots of heat from parents
because they had a black history month program and some of the kids were put in
blackface no I am not lying the studio kids daycare that's
the name of it studio kids they care they received pictures of their toddlers whose faces were
painted blackface with black black paint with the tagline happy black history bomb courtney
polite as a parent sent the photos to the daycare's owner and she responded, I don't understand. What's racist?
The teacher, who's Argentinian, apologized.
She claimed she didn't mean to offend because blackface is a part of her country's cultural tradition.
It is unclear if the teacher is still employed.
The school has refused to comment. Um...
Julianne, take it away.
There's nothing to say.
First of all, if the woman lives in the United States,
she must live under a rock.
How dare she say it's part of their culture?
It's not part of any Latin American culture.
That's nonsense. And to subject those babies to that, good for that parent for speaking up. How dare she say it's part of their culture? It's not part of any Latin American culture.
That's nonsense.
And to subject those babies to that, good for that parent for speaking up. But, you know, like you said, only in Florida, only in Florida you get this kind of nonsense.
It's repugnant.
And not only should the woman be fired, but that day care center needs to be fully investigated.
That kind of racism toward a child is just unacceptable.
I, I'm sorry, Renita, no words.
I'm trying to figure out, if you're the owner,
how in the hell you, oh, well, she's Argentinian.
Boo, you're in America.
Roland, I have actually even less somebody working there
somebody working there somebody working i should have said hey baby um not a good idea putting
blackface in the united states well roland i actually have less words than you because i grew
up in florida so i really hate to see these types of stories come out from Florida. It's not only Florida that these things happen, but when it does, it's especially embarrassing for
the majority of Floridians who know better than this. I agree with what Dr. Malveaux said. If
you, unless you've been living under a rock, everyone at this point should know that you do
not put children, adults, you don't put anybody in blackface. That has been well established. It
has been well documented. I feel like every single year there is some sort of reminder where somebody
does something idiotic and put somebody in blackface that reminds the entire world,
don't put people in blackface. So I just can't understand how this daycare worker would,
and even the owner of the place, would not understand why this daycare worker would, you know, and even the owner of the place would not
understand why this is problematic and then have the gall to go on the internet and say, oh, I don't
understand what's racist. I mean, this is something that can be taken care of with a simple Google.
It's free to Google. Yeah, I'm not quite understanding the logic here, the Congo. And if I was a parent,
man, I'd be pissed off too.
Yeah, most definitely.
You know, this could probably be the reason why we need to have Black history taught in our society.
This is like a prime example, right?
The fact of the matter is, unfortunately,
and when I'm doing my work at these companies
and in these schools
and dealing with an international audience
in our diversity trainings, this actually is an international phenomenon still to this day.
In the Netherlands, one of their characters is in blackface called Black Pete.
In China, it's happening. In Belgium, it's still a practice. And, really, the fact of the matter is,
as far as we are behind in what's happening as it relates to teaching Black history,
many countries across the world are farther behind us. And so in many of these places,
Argentina and the like, you still don't get darker faces that grace a television screen.
I remember there was a South American version of We Are the World, and nobody in the video was
darker than Shakira. And so really, at the end of the day, a lot of countries have not made any
progress as it relates to teaching about different aspects of what's wrong, what's racist and what's disrespectful.
And if people are coming into America and they're not getting the training to understand how we do it here, they are going to end up the latest hashtag.
And this is what we have right now.
That is the case and I just want people to understand that look this is the stuff that
we have to combat on a consistent basis and then you have again the folks who want to try to explain
away by saying oh no no it's it's a whole cultural thing well guess what an American, if I go to somebody else's country, I better learn the practices and the cultural things there as opposed to go, well, I'm sorry, I didn't know I'm an American.
They're not going to take it lightly over there. And guess what? When you come over here, you had damn well better learn what is cultural here in this country and not bring that nonsense from elsewhere.
That's the issue there for me, Julian.
So we step on these shores and this is the thing that people need to understand.
You might be an immigrant from somewhere else, but when it comes to black folks, you had
damn well better learn what the hell we went through and what we still went through,
still go through in terms of how we're trying to counter our history.
And I'm not simply just excusing somebody by saying, oh, well, she didn't know.
Where were supervisors at the daycare?
Was she the only person in the building?
Somebody with a brain could have said, hey, baby, this ain't smart.
This will not turn out well.
And where did she get the blackface from?
Did she bring it from home?
Did she buy it?
Did they use daycare monies to buy it?
I mean, this is...
It's beyond outrageous.
I mean, we're all speechless.
But as speechless as we may be,
what we also know is,
while this doesn't happen a lot,
it does happen.
And the fact is that
this woman, firing her is the least of what needs to happen. That daycare center, from my opinion,
needs to be closed. I mean, if they do not know how to present Black History Month,
needs to be closed. But I'm really curious, where did she get the blackface from?
Was it shoe polish? Was it paint?
Did you deliberately go and buy this mess?
Did you have a requisition from the daycare to get some from,
I don't know where you get blackface from,
but where did she get it from?
This was a deliberate act.
This was not some accident.
Indeed.
Let's stay in Florida, folks.
Now, of course, we were talking about
the AP Black Studies course.
Well, obviously, other states are now trying to follow the lead in the footsteps of Governor Ron DeSantis.
And so what the Republicans are now doing in Arkansas, Virginia, North Dakota and Mississippi, now examining these same courses.
Officials there say they're going to review the course to see if it conflicts with policies on laws restricting race teaching. Montana, Georgia, Texas, and South
Carolina said no review of the AP African American Studies course is planned in the education of
freedom, enslavement, resistance, and discussions of identity and culture. However, officials
indicate they may reconsider a review later. The AP course is currently being piloted in 60 classrooms nationwide.
The pilot will continue this fall and the class will be widely available in 2024 unless states block their schools from offering it.
Look, this is what happens when you have Republicans controlling the state government.
Renita, you see there in Georgia. And this is why I keep trying to explain to people,
you've got to vote.
You've got to understand power.
You have to understand why we cannot be missing in action
because these folks on the right, they're voting
because they want to control things like this.
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right,
and it's appalling that they would mess with the AP history classes in African studies.
I remember growing up in Florida, as I mentioned before, and I took AP history and a host of other AP classes in high school.
And you expect to learn real information. The thing with this, whether they talk about banning teaching critical race theory.
Now you're trying to erase the courses that would teach African-American history from AP perspective.
All of these things make no sense because we are continuing to see in the media that people want more information about what has been the history of black folks in this country, not less.
And you can see that by evidence that now you've got the entertainment sector, for example, Hulu, they're showing 1619 Project right now.
So people want more information about this. But,
you know, every time I see something like this pop up where they are trying to,
conservatives are trying to erase our history, all it makes me continue to remember, and I hope other folks can see this as well, but all they're trying to do is basically just, it's them admitting
that the way that Black folks have been treated in this country is so poor and so embarrassing
and so devastating that they do not want that to be actually taught to people in the country.
But I think that this is an idiot's mission because people want more information,
and they are showing every day that they will learn the history of black folks in this country
one way or another, either way you slice it.
I'm a Congo.
The thing that we need to understand here,
the thing we need to understand here is going to keep happening.
They are going to use their power
and it's not going to be limited to this class.
I keep warning people,
it wasn't just critical race theory.
They want to target anything and everything dealing with equity, diversity, inclusion, multiculturalism, you name it.
Absolutely. That's why they're looking at banning books like Mouse, a graphic novel dealing with the Holocaust.
Some of these legislators have over 800 books on their banned book list that they have in these different districts.
And we're talking about books about Malala and, you know, children's books about Rosa Parks and the like.
And the reason why people need to heed your warning, Roland, is because we're actually starting to see it in Florida right now.
For all of these non-Black folks, you know, white parents and all of those folks who don't want to get out there and support what we're talking about right now, we need to understand Rhonda Santus is talking about getting rid of all AP courses if
there's bigger pushback. So you Florida parents, you got kids taking the AP exam right now who
won't get any credit for it, won't be able to take it in their junior and senior years going forward.
And if you're going to let that stand, it's all because you did nothing when they
started coming for us first. I tell
my students every week, when it comes
to activism in this country and trying
to silence voices, they always come
for Black people first because they
assume that most people are not going to speak
up. And then they start going into different
communities. And they'll start targeting the LGBTQ
community. They'll start targeting women.
But they always go with us
because they feel people will be the most complacent.
And then before you know it,
your whole experience is trash.
I mean, just look at it with black unemployment, right?
If you target the issues facing with us,
you deal with the issues facing the other communities.
We are always first on the chopping block.
So parents, right now, this is the time to join the fight
to make sure that our history is included,
the history of other non-white, cisgendered male people are included as well in the history because they're coming for you.
Then your child's education is going to suffer.
And lastly, Roland, I got to say to the college board, I appreciated a letter that you wrote about Ron DeSantis last week, but you let us down by caving in in the first place.
You had all of these scholars, prominent scholars, working on this, and they worked so hard, and you let us down by caving in in the first place. You had all of these scholars, prominent scholars,
working on this, and they worked so hard,
and you let them down.
Black professors and teachers, K-12,
and in the university level,
we're only about 7% of the teaching population in both areas.
So we're putting in our efforts every single day,
and you should have known
that this wasn't going to be politicized.
I don't know what you're going to do about it now,
but you let us down,
and you need to do a little bit more going forward as well. But lastly, once again, all non-Black
parents, they're coming for you and your kids as well. You need to get on track with us and fight
this. Folks, hold tight. When we come back, we're going to talk to a Tennessee representative
who wore a daishiki on the floor. Boy, the Republicans get besides themselves when it came to that.
We'll also talk about the Howard University swim team.
Of course, making the cover of Sports Illustrated.
And a white woman.
I'm confused.
A brother shoveling snow on the public sidewalk,
and she gets mad that he's shoveling snow.
Lord have mercy.
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They think that they're being painted by white people.
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So imagine you are elected to the Tennessee House
and then you decide to wear a daishiki and an afro.
And, Lord, these white Republicans just lose their minds.
Well, that's what happened to my next guest,
State Representative Justin Pearson, when he did so.
Boy, these folks just got all upset.
They said he was violating the dress code,
even though there's no dress code.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
He joins us right now.
My goodness.
First of all, congratulations on your election.
That's first.
Thank you so much, Roland.
I appreciate it and really grateful to serve in District 86 here in Memphis and Millington and Shelby County.
Well, Lord, now you got these white Republicans just losing their mind because, ooh, they ain't never seen a black man with a half-roat in Dashiki.
Oh, my goodness.
What's going to be next?
H-Rab Brown, berets and long guns and leather coats? I mean, what you know and what I know is it had
very little to do with wearing the dashiki in and of itself. It's what it represents.
And in a system of white supremacy and one where control is what is most important, where the
elevation of whiteness is what people want,
you will be ridiculed for anything that is subversive to that status quo.
And I think what happened when they saw our Afro and our Dashiki, which is honoring our
ancestors and paying homage to the people who made this possible, is also for them a
recognition of change.
And when you're in this culture that really prides itself on being the same,
really prides itself on being, as you know, it's white, supermajority, male, cisgendered folks.
It's not a place of inclusivity. It's not a place of true representation where Black folks' voices
and queer folks' voices and people who are different voices are really elevated. Then
we do something that upsets them by just our presence and our being.
But that's really important for us to do in this type of environment where they're taking away
HIV funding, which we know disproportionately hurts black folks, trying to retain third graders
in the state of Tennessee, which we know is going to disproportionately hurt black folks and poor
folks, continuing to allow corporations to run over the poor and not raising the minimum wage, not providing housing. They want to talk about attire and not do their jobs,
which is really representing people to help Tennesseans be lifted out of poverty
and be lifted to the point of some prosperity in a state that is getting a lot of money and
resources, but it's going to the people who are most wealthy here.
And then they even told you if you don't like it, find you a new career. Excuse me?
Listen, it is exactly who they are. And for a lot of folks who I talk with and say things about,
well, you know, you can just wear a suit and tie and this wouldn't be an issue at all,
I remind them I've been wearing a suit and tie since I was eight years old.
There's no, I have no problem with wearing a suit and tie. That is not what is at
issue. What is at issue is what the Republican party of Tennessee says about who belongs.
See, that is what is at issue. That's the conversation that we have to have because
what they're saying is you don't belong. And in their response, first they say, well,
there are these rules. We learned there are no rules about a tie or permanent rule to only
talks about decorum. Andermanent rule two only talks about
decorum. And the speaker of the house is the one who says decorum. And so if people like for
tomorrow to be pajama day, then tomorrow you can wear pajamas on the floor. There's no rule
that has been voted on for people to wear suits and ties. But their second comment, which is,
go find another job. We've heard this before. You don't belong here. Your voice, your opinion,
your spirit, your presence, your color, your kind don't belong in this space and in this environment.
It makes us afraid. It worries us. And it is that type of spirit that the person who said this intended.
It is that type of spirit that navigates and is the rule making body, as it were, for the Tennessee State House and the Tennessee State Senate.
And so when it comes to issues of abortion and limiting people's access to health care,
when it comes to whether or not folks can do drag shows, whether or not folks can get access to
medicine, it is about control and making sure that the people who are already the most marginalized,
the people who are already being disinvested, and the folks who are already being most oppressed
never get from outside the
margins. And when, through people-powered movements, through prayers of ancestors,
when we break through from the margins and the periphery to the center, they get afraid.
And there is reason, there is reason, there is reason to be afraid, because we are not going
to perpetuate these systems of injustice and allow it to happen in silence. We're not going
to accept the violence that happens through legislating and codifying injustice and inequity to happen without us pushing back. And so they
are worried that people like us, people like me, people like District 86 are going to continue to
stand up and speak up and show up in a way that pushes back against the status quo. And they are
exactly right. That's what we're going to keep doing. Questions. Julianne Malveaux, you're first.
First of all, my brother, thank you for representing. I really appreciate it.
I also would note the cynicism of your speaker who quotes Lois D. Berry, a dear friend,
departed former Tennessee legislator, to say she's the one who started these rules. That's nonsense. But what I want to
ask you in terms of your representation is what kind of support are you getting from other
legislators? Are other Black legislators standing with you in this, as well as progressive whites?
I really appreciate that question. And one of the things that I'll tell folks, we have to make sure
that we are continuing to unify in the Democratic Party and for people who are progressive.
One of the ways that you continue to sow division is to create separation.
And I'm really fortunate there was a legislator shortly thereafter who said to me, he said, hey, actually about the budget, how we into these environments and these spaces
that have always seemingly been designed against us, that we have broken into and broken through
to be. And so you mentioned Spreaker Pro Temp, Lois DeBerry is one of those folks. I mean,
it is not just ironic. It is the cruelty of whiteness that says a now deceased extraordinary black woman legislator would have berated one of
the youngest black legislators to be in the statehouse because he didn't have a tie on
the special occasion of being sworn in.
And then for her, this extraordinary black woman, only the second black woman ever elected
in the Tennessee state House, right,
her name gets used to be a bludgeon against a young Black lawmaker. And white folks, the speaker
and all these other folks, they say, well, the rules came from this Black woman. And so that's
why you need to obey them. Again, using Black people against Black people to prop up their
systems. This is what we have to resist and have to speak
out against. And in a place that is a supermajority, white, Republican, racist supermajority,
we have a responsibility as Black legislators to unite together on the issues that our communities
care most deeply about and also elevate our people in these places and in these spaces
to show that we will show up. because too many people marched and died and fought
in order for us to get there.
And being silent and accepting the berating
without pushing back isn't something that we can allow.
I'm a Congo.
Congratulations on your work
and your win, Representative Pearson.
And the question I have for you is on a larger scale.
In this country where so much of who we are is being attacked and people are removing us from the books and people have to have the Crown Act to protect hair. Can you just share your overall thoughts about the importance in this moment now in showing up as your authentic Black self?
Well, thank you for that question.
And listen, we Black and we beautiful.
We got here not because people succumbed
to all of the trauma and the challenges
and the heartache and the pain of being Black.
It's because they embraced the beauty and the vision
and the opportunity that we have chosen to create
in this place called the United States of America, despite everything that it has done to us and against us.
We have made democracy possible here. We have made the vision that some white folks wrote on paper
but did not believe more true. And we still have a lot, a lot, a lot of more work to do.
And it is one recognizing that it isn't right that we have to have laws like the Crown Act that says you can't discriminate against someone because of the color of their hair.
It isn't right for racist white governors to say we don't need to learn about your history or critical race theory or things like this because white people and white children might learn that some of their ancestors enslaved
African Americans, some of their ancestors propped up a system of injustice that we are feeling the
vestiges of today. It is not right that we live in a country where over 4,000 people have been
documented and lynched, and we have yet to have a day of mourning or a moment of recognition
in our educational systems or in our society about those injustices. It is not right that we are forced to live under
the oppression that we do. But what is really powerful in this moment and what I think has
been a catalyst since we learned and fully grasped the understanding about the lynchings of Breonna
Taylor and the lynching of George Floyd and the lynching of Maude Arbery and the true power of their lives and the legacy after 2020 about our
responsibility as Black people in this society, which is to not accept the silences, is to
continue to shout even after the cameras have faded, we can't breathe, is continue to realize
that our fights are still here and now, and we have to elevate the voices
of our community, particularly at a time and in a place where we are facing so many people
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our lives. There's a system that is being designed against us. And we have a responsibility to recognize what is happening at
large and to resist it, even for Black men in particular, when some of those systems might
benefit us when it comes to patriarchy in particular. And realizing that until we position
our policies and our practices and our speech and our voice to elevate the person most marginalized,
which in our communities are Black women, and say what is done unto Black women will be the litmus test for the progress of this country. And if we have not made sure that equal pay really
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is the reality that i unfortunately live into each day congo Congo?
All right.
So hold on one second.
Renita.
Yes.
Well, thank you so much for everything that you're doing.
You have perfectly described the nuance of serving in these legislatures across the country. I just finished six years in the Georgia House, and every day I would wear my Black Solidarity pin and my Still I Rise pin, and I would get the same
dirty looks and questions from white male cisgender legislators asking, what is that? What does that
mean? What are you trying to do? Those sorts of questions. So, you know, frequently I would tell
folks that really serving these legislatures is really very much of a plantation-type culture,
and it is our duty to resist every
single day and be visible about that resisting. So I just want to say to you, continue to do what
you're doing. And my only question is, what is the best way for everyone to support you? Can
they donate to you year round? When is your reelection? Just what can folks do to support you?
Thank you so much for the question. I greatly appreciate it. And to your point, a lot of work is happening at state legislatures across the country. And so folks really have to pay attention to what's happening in your day-to-day lives. And we are seeing in the South and across the South
the progress that is being fought for federally or nationally
being sent back to the states due to the conservative Supreme Court.
And so working in the state legislature is so important.
Thank you for your service there.
Our speaker literally called himself an overseer, okay,
an overseer of the progressive and more liberal cities.
This isn't fake, right?
This is very real, the danger of having people in positions of power
who are harmful to our communities and view themselves as overseers
as they were on the plantations.
And so the veil of history is quite thin,
and we need more support in our movement,
and you can go to VoteJustinJ.com right now.
You will not be able to donate until June 1st, but you will be able to join our mailing
list and volunteer with us virtually because we want to continue to inform, educate, and
activate our community.
Building people power is something that we talk about a lot in Memphis, and it is elevating
our voices, and it is showing up in a way civically that makes sure those who are in
positions of
power and who have been empowered by the people do what is right and do what is just by the
communities that they serve at the local, state, and at the federal level. And so, yes, you can go
to VoteJustinJ.com, fill out that form for us, and we will be in touch over the coming weeks
about ways that you can continue to support us. If it is legislatively in the statehouse,
we'll let you know. If it's locally,
we'll let you know that too. But we are looking to build a people-powered movement that centers
the most marginalized, that listens to those most affected by the issues of poverty and injustice,
and advocate in order that people might elevate their voices to help create the change that we
need. And we are not in this for one legislative cycle or two years or three years or four years,
but we are in this for a lifetime,
believing that change is possible because we've seen it happen in our environmental justice
movement, and we are continuing to see it happen right now in Memphis, and we want to continue that
work. As Dr. King said, the movement lives or dies in Memphis, and that work continues in Memphis as
well. All right, then, Representative Justin Pearson,
we certainly appreciate you joining us.
And trust me, if you rocked some of the Dachshunds I had,
they would really be trying to run you out.
Hey, send them to me, Roland.
It's all good.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
Folks, got to go to a break.
When we come back, we'll talk with the Howard University swim team,
many called the real HU.
They made the cover of Sports Illustrated.
Yes, the Hampton graduates around here, like Henry and Anthony,
take offense to that, but they'll get over it.
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So, black folks y'all
know how we do we do all kinds of stuff and you might have seen the video that's gone viral
on how lit the howard university swim meets are uh they say look even some of the other schools
are like yo we need to come we need to do this more often howard university was featured on the
cover cover of sports illustrated of their swim. Y'all got the video.
Go ahead and show it, control room.
It's the first all-black swim team to appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
They're nearing their first conference championship in more than three decades.
The men are six and two.
The women are five and three.
That is no surprise to their coach, Nick Askew, a Howard alum who broke records while he
was a student swimmer. He joins us from Geneva, Ohio. Vic, how you doing?
Brother Roland, thanks so much for having me, man. I'm doing great.
Glad to have you here on the show. And so tell us about, again, why you decided to become head coach and
getting rid of this perception that, oh, black folks, we don't swim.
It's absolutely a myth, Roland. Let me tell you, growing up all my life, I'm from originally North Carolina.
I had very few role models to look up to.
I was blessed to have a family that swam.
Both my parents swam.
And I had two older brothers who were also Howard alums who swam growing up and pretty much had no choice but to take up competitive swimming. And especially as I continued to progress and get better and better, it was, you know, people of color were few and far between.
So it was hard for me to be able to have a group of people that I could relate to in those elite levels until I got to Howard.
Being a freshman on Howard's campus, being able to be surrounded by black excellence was a huge motivator for me. And
I just wanted to be able to bring that same motivation to
the student athletes that I now have the opportunity to be the head coach for.
Tell us about how the unique HBCU experience at your swim meets has caused you and other schools to say,
hey, man, we like coming to these swim meets here at Howard.
They do a little bit different.
Yeah, let me tell you, the environment that we have at the Burr at Howard University is unmatched.
One of the things that I wanted to be able to do in coming on board was first to fill my coaching staff with people who really were going to pour into the program.
We have one of the most dynamic coaching staffs on any pool deck.
I can promise you that.
And then the next thing we wanted to be able to do is we wanted to develop the swimmers and divers that we had a part of our program.
And then we wanted to make sure that people wanted to come to see them.
So a couple of things that we did is we first we had to change the aesthetics of the pool area.
We we got some paint. We started painting the walls. We painted the bleachers.
We put up some some branding with the Howard University logos all over the place.
And then we had to make sure we had music. Right. Where do you go that you're going to be entertained that does not have music?
So we brought on an on-deck DJ that plays at every single one of our home meets,
making sure that the energy is just electric in the entire environment.
And what's really cool about that is the fact that when there's energy in the stands,
it makes our swimmers swim faster and our divers dive better.
And then when they're winning,
that makes the energy in the stands go up that much higher.
So we have a crazy, crazy environment here
to the point now where every home meet that we host
is sold out.
And I need everybody to imagine that.
We sold out, we sell out swim meets,
every single home meet on the campus of an HBCU where the majority of people are black or brown, especially given the fact that 65% of African Americans have limited or no swimming ability.
So we're doing some really special things and we're glad that the world is taking notice.
All right, questions up from my panel.
Makongo, you're first.
This is really amazing and exciting.
And my kids are going on a tour of Howard tomorrow.
Actually, they've been talking about wanting to go to Howard.
One of the things that I've been writing about in my upcoming book that looks at this about
lives about Black people is this idea of
Black people can't swim, not because they can't physically swim, but because there have been so
many barriers to entry in our community to swimming. Can you talk about some of the experiences
that you have had or that your other students may share with you about some of the barriers
and challenges that many of us have faced in our community regarding swimming?
Yeah, I mean, we can go just very shortly back to the amount of access that we've been able to have in our communities.
And growing up in the cities, we had very limited access in my generation because a lot of the pools were under managed or underserviced.
And then they were filled in to never
be reused again. And then we can go even farther back to, you know, Jim Crow, where we were not
allowed to be able to use the facilities where we have the people moving into the rural areas and membership country club style denial of access. All of our swimmers that
come to Howard know that Howard is a special environment. As an HBCU, it's a safe haven for
every individual that enrolls at Howard. And being able to be a swimmer or diver in a sport that doesn't look like us is a special, special place that for
the once in our competitive lives, we get to be in an environment where we're no longer the minority,
where we can have the conversations on deck in the locker room about things that matter to us
that we couldn't have those kinds of conversations about. You know, I speak as a black male bald head,
but there's many conversations about hair,
which is a barrier for a lot of our people of color
because we don't have enough products out there
that will help with hair management
for the textures of hair in the black and brown community,
on down to skin care.
So those are just barriers that, again, we're able to overcome,
but the overall myth
that black people don't swim is just that myth. Thank you. Renita.
Well thank you for the great work that you're doing with the swim team. My question is how
has this affected the swimmers directly as far as morale? I mean I'm sure they have to be excited
about everything that's going on but how is affected, just their overall outlook and where they think they
can go with swimming? Let me tell you, this group of young men and young women is a spectacular
group. All season long, we've been talking about that as a group, we are the energy. We don't
have to do anything other than be ourselves, and good things are going to happen.
As we get ready to go into those conference championships,
looking to capture a conference title for the first time in over three decades,
they are on tent.
And I don't think that would be any different if there wasn't as much,
you know, as many lights that are being shined on the program right now
because that's just who we are.
One of the things that one of our captains talked about just this evening at dinner was, however,
making sure that we continue to represent the brand of Howard University swimming and diving
and making sure that we are on our P's and Q's because now the world is into our space.
We want to make sure that we're continuing to show them all the
greatness that we're capable of. Julianne. Nick, congratulations. I'm very happy for you and for
the team at Howard. You know, we know each other, you do good work, and just congratulations. Now, what's the most exciting meet that you won? I mean, I know
you're faced against PWIs and others. What was the sweetest victory? Tell me I'll beat Harvard
or something. Well, we haven't quite gotten Harvard on our schedule. There are a lot of
programs that are asking to be on our schedule and asking to come to our home meets. But it
wasn't one that we won. We did just fall short at the Battle at the Burr, which was our home opener,
which was in October of this year versus Georgetown University. And that was just a
spectacular event. We sold over 2,000 tickets. We had an overflow. We had a VIP area. We had a band.
I mean, it was just an amazing, amazing environment. The entire
natatorium was just electric the entire time. And unfortunately, our team did fall short by two
points. But we're looking forward to Battle at the Bird 2 coming at the 1st of October of 2023.
And we will have a rematch against Jack Levitt's team
over at Georgetown.
Save me a ticket.
Absolutely.
I got you covered.
All right.
Coach, we appreciate it.
Good luck.
And hope you guys do well for the rest of the season.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate you guys having me.
God bless.
Oh, hold on.
I got one question because I got two Hampton grads.
Does Hampton have a swim team?
Hampton does not have a swim team.
We need to be writing letters to all of our HBCUs because in the 70s and 80s.
He said Hampton does not have a swim team.
No, no.
We need to be writing letters to all of the administration because in the 70s
and 80s, there were no less than about 25 other HBCUs that had programs. And unfortunately,
at this point, Howard is the only HBCU that has a program, but it doesn't have to be that way.
All right, guys. Bring on the Pirates. All right, Coach, thanks so much. Good luck.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
All right. Thanks a bunch.
All right, folks.
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And so, you know, all year we've had our segments, A New You in 2023.
We've had probably now, what, 12, 15 different folks, dietitians, fitness experts, men, women, you name it, trying to get people, not just those who are young
or middle age, but also folks who are 40, 50, and 60 plus.
And so we've been having different conversations.
And so one of the things that happens when you travel,
it is always a different deal when you're trying to stay fit
because again, you have meetings and then you're in airports, and of course,
your food is not always as consistent as it is
when you're at home, and so we came out here,
and we said, hey, let's chat with Massey Arias.
It's been a long time since I chatted with her.
I chatted with her on my TV One show,
and so glad to see her again.
I actually finally see her in person,
because I was virtual, so how's it going?
It's going well.
It's just another day in LA.
I got you. Well,
it's a little different because, you know, last time we actually had, you know, the warmer.
Yeah. So I don't know what that's been going on for the last couple of weeks in L.A. with this.
People, people in L.A. be hitting me like, man, what's up with this global warming? They like,
yo, they're like, this is just as chill. Yes. It's messing up jacuzzi nights that's what folks keep saying it's fine you need a little change uh true true so before we talk about um uh the whole piece when
it comes to fitness you said something when we chat before we came on the air you said about
this this this uh moving movement you call the fitness movement. You said moving movement. Why?
Because, you know, people have this idea of the perfect workout.
And then you start making excuses for anything.
And movement is movement.
So you can get fit by walking.
You can get fit by hiking.
You can get fit by doing the workouts I do. You can get fit by training, doing all these movement philosophies.
So there's not one way of doing things, just like there's not one way of dieting per se.
Right.
Because I don't believe in dieting either.
So whatever movement philosophy you want to acquire for whatever it is that you have in your surroundings you should be able to do that
what i'll say jamaica uh for over the christmas new year christmas new year's holiday i told
someone that i said um you know i don't actually i only worked out like one day
those are 10 days so really take out the first day you take out the last day really eight days
uh but literally walked anywhere from three to five miles every day just along the beach
exactly wasn't a power walk wasn't i mean i was taking my taking my time uh and so when i got back but literally walked anywhere from three to five miles every day just along the beach. Exactly.
It wasn't a power walk.
I mean, I was taking my time.
And so when I got back, the guy who handles my food meal prep, he's like, okay, how bad did it go?
And I said, oh, no, I lost seven and a half pounds.
He's like, what?
And I was like, yeah. And that's the thing, because we have been conditioned to think, oh, no, it has to be everything high impact, strenuous and all of that.
When it was and it's not like I was eating just salads the whole time.
I actually was eating what I wanted to eat.
But but to your point, but you're moving your body.
There you go.
I broke my wrist.
I fractured my wrist two months ago.
I just starting to move again.
So if I was not using my upper body, I was going to use my lower body.
And I found ways to think outside the box and move my body.
Got it.
You know, in the two months, I still look the same.
I have not really lost condition.
Well, conditioning and strength, it's going to come.
So when you're thinking, okay, where can I get fit?
My parents were here for three months
i got them off every single medication and all they did was walk my dad is 70 my mom is
63 going on 64 no longer on medication but i did have them here for three months one of our
guys works out black star network joe uh he he dropped 30 plus because we were on Zoom.
And I was like, Joe, what the hell have you been doing?
Exactly.
And he said, bro, walking every day.
And you can make choices.
I mean, I'm that person that is going to tell you the truth.
I'm not going to tell you what you need to hear.
I am going to tell you the truth.
You look at your choices every single day.
You look at your movement every single day. You look at your movement every
single day. What are you not doing? Because even by walking, you're creating deficit every single
day that you're just tidy, tidy up what you're eating, tidy up what you're consuming on a
regular basis. And you're going to see progress now with the Latinx in the African-American communities, what I've internalized
from my own is how do we handle stress and we're just not coping in the right ways. So
decreasing stress and overlooking at your behavioral patterns, it's going to impact
everything that you do on a regular basis.
Gotcha.
Now, one of the things, again, when we talk about traveling, you're always on the road,
whatever.
And so I saw it was one of your videos I saw because you're always doing stuff somewhere and you were in an airport.
You were doing something.
And so we can walk over here.
So we got I saw it.
I was like, you know what?
Because I spend so much time in airports.
And it was pretty interesting.
Let's just slide back right over there.
It was pretty interesting.
Whatever the exercise you were doing, you were like, no, no, get your stretches in.
You were using one of the chairs that was in the airport.
I was stretching.
Right.
I mean, when you're traveling, you're locked.
Your hips are locked. You're not really going to be moving. I need to move. You know, the more, the less you
move, the stiffer you're going to get, the more in pain you're going to be. So I was just showing,
hey, let me just stretch out. It was like a 15 minute thing, but I was just moving and I keep
pacing up and down. I never stopped moving. I don't know if that makes sense no no so I never stopped moving gotcha so it was I think
I forgot cuz you're cuz you were doing you with what it was back and legs all
kind of stuff yeah so I was using a chair I was just using a chair extending
my arms releasing my hamstrings releasing the hip flexors which usually
cost a lot of back pain.
I was just feeling stiff. Because so many people, when they fly, they don't get up.
Yes.
Which is always strange to me, because I get up several times.
I'm like, it's like a four or five hour flight, and I'll see someone sitting on the window.
They don't move the entire time.
No, and then flying is very harsh on the body.
And you should stay extremely hydrated.
You should move.
And the first thing that people do going to the hotel is going from a sitting position straight to sleep, right?
Not good.
Not good.
Move that body.
Stretch that body.
Because you have off your routine. It's not going to be so difficult for you to pack a pair of sneakers, for you to stretch out, use the facility, the gym in the facility, go for a run, stretch.
At the end of the day, you have resources if you are being taught maybe a few tips here and there.
Well, let's say there's somebody who's traveling and they might be late
and they don't actually want to go to the gym. I have bands upstairs. Obviously, you put in the
door. But let's just say we're in a hotel room and look, it's a table. It's a chair. They're in
the room. And some people also don't see this safe. We saw the video the other day of the woman
who let a guy into the gym and he almost attacked her.
And so let's just say someone's in a hotel room and you can only utilize what's in the room.
What should they do?
Well, for example, most of my programming, it's without equipment.
And that's what I'm known for.
You are the machine.
You can use your body as a machine.
All variations of planks
you have a chair that could be your bench for your step ups for Bulgarian split squats I mean there's
an infinite amount of things that you can do with your body that's right so we're talking about a or a, let's say, find me a chair.
I don't know.
Find me a chair so that I can show you.
This might be a little.
There you go.
This might be a little too.
Yeah, if I want to step.
You're not going to find a bamboo one of you.
Yeah, but if I want to step, step up.
If I want to use this, oops.
Don't worry about it.
If I want to use this as a squat and a jump or a squat, right?
There's a lot of things that you can use.
If, let's say, you don't have as much upper body strength, you can use this chair for push-ups or for modified planks, right?
So when we talk about movement, there's a lot of things that you can do with just your body
so bands planks infinite amounts of choices and then what you're laying out that's that's whether
you travel or whether you're just at home and you don't have a home gym you just use just use what's
there and you don't need tons of space you don't need tons of space. You don't need a lot of space.
You don't need a lot of tools.
Because you know how people get.
It's like, okay, I've got to have this.
I've got to have the mat.
I've got to have the app.
I've got to have the foam roller.
Again, people start going through like, oh, all this stuff costs.
The perfect outfit, the perfect tools.
You are the machine.
Got it.
You know?
And when people at home, I'm all about isometric training, right?
Making sure that your body, that you're able to use your body and master your body weight
before you even engage in outside tools, for example, or resistance training.
Right.
So I'm very strong because I know I dominate my body.
So all philosophies of training, movement, you can do a lot with your body.
All right.
Hold tight one second.
I got to go to break.
We come back more with massive areas here in Los Angeles.
Panel got some questions.
And I know Julianne, who she claims
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So we got questions from her,
Renita, on Macongo. We come back
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Every Monday, of course, we talk about Fit Live When.
We've been talking about a new you in 2023.
And so we're here in L.A., so we hit up massive hit up massive areas and like, yo, let's talk about,
again, that new you. Many of us, many of you travel. I know we do it as well. So you're
always trying to stay fit. You're always trying to get it in. Sometimes you can't
go jogging if you want to. And so getting you to think different ways to stay healthy, to stay fit, as you say, to keep moving.
So let's take some questions from our panel.
So let's see here.
Julianne, I'm going to go ahead and go to you first.
Let's see what's your question, Julianne.
Let's go to you first.
Let's see what's your question.
I heard you clowning me.
Anyway, sister, thank you for your work.
Thank you for, I saw your video, and it was really very good.
You talked about managing stress, and I think that's a really big thing, especially for black women.
And you also, in your video, talked a little bit about depression.
Tell us how exercise works with depression as well as with stress.
Does exercise help us?
And how does it help us with those things that hit us so hard?
Well, you have four hormones that control how you feel.
You have serotonin, dopamine, you have oxytocin,
which is that love hormone that we all need, and endorphins.
And when you're exercising, the rewiring that
happens in your brain is real. Whether it's for a couple of hours, it does happen. So dopamine,
serotonin, endorphins, and oxytocin, if you are training in a open space, right, with other people,
all those hormones get rewired. So this is how exercise,
exercise and nutrition, and this is how I changed my lifestyle. It was through exercise. And I was
diagnosed with major depressive disorder. And most of us, 85% of a lot of the mental health
illnesses or emotions that we feel on a regular basis could be offset with nutrition and exercise.
That is proven.
85%?
85%.
Wow.
Literally.
So there's a lot of rewiring that happens in your brain.
So what you're trying to say is, again, because our society is so much about medication.
Well, just like I said, my dad is 70, my mom is 63, and all of their medications off.
Latinx and African-American communities, we need to change the way that we eat because we're eating poor man's food.
We're living with slaved food, if you think about it.
I'm Dominican, but we weren't slaves.
I'm an Afro-Latina, and we're still eating how we were eating as
slaves. That's not the truth now. So we do have these two resources, which is the sun, movement,
and what we put in our bodies. And I can honestly, I'm a living proof of that.
So if you want to rewire your brain, you have to be able to move. And I use movement
so much because it all takes, if I tell you right now, put on your sneakers. The first thing that
you're going to do when you wake up in the morning is get some sun, go out and walk. You will feel
completely different. This is why people in California, you pay so much money for the sun
that you get every single day
and you have seasonal depression
in areas that are cold, right?
I used to suffer a lot.
Because you can't get out.
And you can't have any sun.
So a good strategy would be
to get a lamp that simulates the sun
because it's correlated to the way that we feel.
Cool. Yes. I'm a Congo. I am a huge fan of your work and I really appreciate everything that
you're doing. And I wasn't sure. As most people say, how do you get motivated to continue to
move? If you are under a lot of stress, chronic stress, it's not only going to trigger a lot of things,
but one of the things that it will trigger is that your body, your body's actually chronically stressed.
Anyone who's watching right now, I highly suggest for them to not only start moving, but learn how to de-stress. One of the books that I have for everyone who's watching at home is
Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers by Robert Salposky.
Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers?
Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers.
Because most of the diseases that we're having right now in the Western world
are coming because of stress.
Gotcha.
And Latinx and African-Americans, we're all showing our stressors on our bodies.
See, that's why I cuss people out.
I mean, really just lower stress.
I mean, I'm not carrying stuff around.
You know, I'm not sitting here, you know, holding it in.
And it just frees you.
Or we can just all go into therapy.
That's what we vent out.
So basically, Matthew said, cuss them out or go to therapy. I'll do we vent out. So basically, Matthew said,
cuss him out or go to therapy.
I'll do the former.
All right, let's go.
Omakongo, what's your question?
I'm a huge fan of the work that you're doing
and been following you for a while.
So just thank you for all you're doing
and helping us elevate our health.
My question comes back to dieting.
You said you don't believe in dieting
and more about the lifestyle changes. I completely understand that. I wanted to know if you consider something like
intermittent fasting to be like a dietary thing. And if not, is it just wise to just not eat after
a certain hour? Like what are your thoughts as it relates to not so much what to eat, but when to
eat? Okay. I'll tell you just something very simple your body does not know
if it's for example circadian rhythm we know it's day because the sun right and as the sun sets we
know it's nighttime your body doesn't function that way so intermittent fasting is something
that i do myself right but it's because of the work that I do. So I wake up really early. I would feel very lethargic when
I eat something. So for my life, five in the morning. Oh, hell yeah. That's way too early.
That's a lot. I know intermittent fasting is great, right? But when we talk about dieting, it's very specific. This is why there's no diet that it's that is going to fit everyone. Right. So what I tell people, I believe in whole foods because whole foods, it's for few. We not only eat to look a certain way. When people look at me, oh, I want all the muscles. I want to look a certain way when people look at me oh I want all the muscles I want to look like that well I follow a very specific diet and I move a
lot is that going to say it would be conducive for someone who does not want
to look very muscular so when it comes down to nutrition, this is what I'm going to tell everyone at home.
Learn what your goals are.
If you want to look like an athlete, you're going to eat like an athlete.
If you want to be healthy, you can't really start thinking, I'm just going to eat a 500-calorie diet and think that that's sustainable. If you're yo-yoing, right, and you come back to
the same habits, think about something that you can sustain. So with my parents and how I got them
off all their medication and how I got them 40, 50 pounds down, right, over 100 pounds, both of them
in less than a year, right, I told them, get rid of alcohol. They really don't
drink. And all things that are processed, they were left with whole foods. So we were eating a
variety of foods. But when it comes to whole foods, something that is not processed, the
combinations of foods that you're integrating, they're going to have everything that you need.
Protein, fiber, micronutrients, all your macros, everything together.
So instead of me telling my mom, hey, you cannot eat a banana because you have a craving and it's 9 or 10 at night,
instead of her suffering through not having something sweet, hey, have your banana.
Let's have a bowl of fruit because that is going to be a lot healthier
than the pint of ice cream that she was having.
So over time, people need to start thinking this is not a race.
It's a marathon.
So if you're doing something that is not sustainable, you're going to quit.
This is not, I'm not the coach that is going to give you a diet
that now you're losing 20 pounds in a month.
It's that really healthy, right?
If it sounds too good to be true, you already know.
You know what you need to do.
We should not be here in denial.
So this is what I say.
I'm going to give you the tools to fly on your own. Right.
This is why I have programming that you can do. Right. But if you're listening to what I'm saying, anyone can get fit.
OK, Renita. In healthy. Renita, I got literally 45 seconds. I got 20 seconds for your question, 20 for the answer. Go.
OK, Massey, how long does it take to build a habit of working out every day?
People used to say you do anything for 21 days in a row, and you now have a new habit.
Is it the same for exercise, or what has been your experience?
Is it the same for exercise, or what has been your experience?
My experience is I don't deviate.
You guys have seen me for the past 11 years, and I don't deviate.
I've been teaching the same philosophy done in different ways for 11 years, and I don't deviate. There's never a day
that I don't move. And that doesn't mean I may just go for a walk. I literally just took my
brace off. I've been off the game for two months, but I never stopped moving. You can go walk,
you can go stretch, stop the excuses that you're telling your head based on what you see out there. It
takes a habit. Yes, three
weeks for you to make it a habit, but
it takes consistency. And
you have to ask yourself, how
much do I want this? Do you want to be
in pain for the rest of your life, or do you want to make
a change? There you go. Alright,
tell people where they can follow you.
They can follow me. My name is Masi
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And my MA365, it's now live.
I put a project together.
Cool.
I will change your life in a year.
MA365 on MasiArias.com slash links.
She changed a parent's life, so I think that'll work.
Always good to see you.
I appreciate it.
Always good to see you.
Good luck.
Thank you.
Folks, that is it.
I will see you tomorrow right here from Los Angeles.
We had a great interview with Jimmy Jam.
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And so y'all want to be sure to check us out.
And so I'll see you tomorrow right here, Roland Martin Unfiltered.
Julianne, I'm a Congo.
Renita, thanks a bunch.
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