#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Colleges Cut DEI Ties. Supreme Court Blocks Trump Tariffs. Roy Cooper Senate Bid

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

2.20.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Colleges Cut DEI Ties. Supreme Court Blocks Trump Tariffs. Roy Cooper Senate Bid The rollback of DEI programs under the thug Trump administration continues -- and now more than a dozen colleges are quietly cutting ties with organizations that help students of color. I'll speak with the President of the PHD Project, one of the programs affected, later. He helped lead North Carolina, and now, former North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper wants to flip a Republican seat in the U.S. Senate. I had the opportunity to speak with him, and we'll play that next. The Supreme Court Strikes down on Trump's Tariffs. The president of the Black Farmers Association will join us to talk about the impacts of the ruling. And as we continue honoring the life and legacy of Reverend Jesse Jackson, we'll hear from Civil Rights leader Ambassador Andrew Young and Rev. Dr. William Barber on what his work means for the movement today Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You dig 26 coming up on Roland Unfiltered streaming live on the Black Star Network I'm here in College Station, Texas where the state conference of Alpha by Alpha and Attorney Corporated is holding their state conference.

Earlier today, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, spoke to the brothers here. And I'll also be talking to the gentleman who's going to be leading the effort to mobilize or organized black men in this state to get out to vote in the midterm, when, of course, the primary on March 3rd

or the general election in November. Also, on today's show, the attacks on DEI continue. 45 universities are cutting ties with various organizations of dealing with people of color. One in particular that helps to get

African American PhD students in universities. They are also having ties cut including the links as well. We'll talk to the president of the PhD project about how they are being impacted by Donald Trump's attack

on African Americans. Also in today's show, folks, Donald Trump got a huge loss by the Supreme Court. We've declared He, most of his tariffs are unconstitutional. He is not happy about that. But guess what?

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It's time to bring the funk. I'm Roland on Filcher on the Black Star Network. Let's go. And so you've got nearly 600 brothers from around the state who are here earlier today, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. She spoke to the brothers here. Of course, the primary March 3rd, she's facing the state representative James Tellerico. And so those efforts are taking place.

And I actually, as you can see, you see my sticker, I'll step in, you see my sticker right here. right here. I actually voted. I flew in the Dallas, voted in Dallas County, then drove down to college station. I'm going to be, of course, speaking Sunday in Houston. And so it's, of course, I'll be all across this state, it's a busy weekend. And so a little bit later to show you talking to the brother whose task we're trying to organize and mobilize alphas all across Texas. But beyond that, black voters to make sure they're casting their vote. In this state, African Americans,

have the largest number of black voters in any state in the country. In fact, when you look at minority folks in this state, 60% of Texas people of color, yet 60% of the folks that vote in Texas are white. And so that's what's happening here. So we'll talk about that. Now, one of the things that we have been looking at in dealing with is what we have laid out, and that is the absolute, the targeting of African Americans, the effort by Donald Trump and MAGA to defund black America.

And so what they have been doing is attacking colleges and universities, forcing them to make massive changes to a variety of things. Again, I'm here in college station. My alma mater of Texas-Anem University being led by this right-wing governor in Texas, Greg Abbott and this nutcase right-wing lieutenant governor, Dan Patrick, they have been forcing the Board of Regents to do away with race and gender. University of Texas took some action today, saying that they want to keep students' rights.

having to take what they call controversial classes. That makes no sense whatsoever. But what we're seeing here, some 45, 50 institutions are being cut. We're talking about places where they have programming that's about reaching out an increasing number of African Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asian Americans, and colleges and universities. Well, Donald Trump's anti-Black, anti-D-EI, anti-binary administration is hitting these folks hard. And so now all of a sudden, these universities are scared to death, but they literally are cutting ties with a variety of organizations. The Washington Post had a story, if y'all having the control room pull that story up. The Washington Post had a story laying out these cuts in California. They literally are cutting ties with a chapter of the lynx. The lynx president was quoted as saying, we didn't know anything about this, but the one that also, I saw a tweet before I came live, Clemson is cutting ties with the next. The next president was quoting. The next one that's saying, number of conferences. In fact, I remember I spoke in Clemson, they have actually a conference

for men of color. More than likely, that conference goes out the window. So people have to understand what we are seeing is a massive attack by Donald Trump and MAGA against efforts that to recruit and retain African-Americans. So what have I said they're trying to do by defunding Black America? They're trying to cut off access to colleges and universities. They're trying to cut off access to contracts. They're cutting up access to grants and things along those lines. And so there is a wholesale assault on black America taking place as we speak and folk need to wake up and understand what's going on. Joining me right now on the show folks is the president of the PhD

project Alfonso Alexander. Alfonso, glad to have you here on Rollin Martin on Filcher on the Black Star Network. This is it's devastating. Again, I talked about Texas A&M. That was a conference where they were sending some folks and the whole goal of the conference is to actually recruit

minority PhD candidates. Well, Greg Abbott finds out he orders the president and says to the president that president has since resigned if you do not cancel the travel to this, I'm going to fire you. And so what you have right now, Alfonso,

are university administrators who are scared to death because what Donald Trump is doing is saying, I'm going to take away your federal funding, your research grants, if you support any of these programming. And so talk about how these ties being cut. How is it affecting your organization, the Ph.D. project? Sure. Thank you. Thank you for having me, Roland. And it's affecting us significantly. We have been a tremendous asset to the academic community by providing access for talented individuals that normally wouldn't necessarily know about how they could get engaged and become PhDs, which then they impact the students that come through, and students of all color benefit from having diverse faculty that they're interacting with. And so what has happened for us specifically is, you know, we had over 200 universities that partnered with us last year prior to the changes that the administration had put in place. And now, you know, it's less than 100 that have partnered with us in that same capacity.

Some of them have been forced. Some of them were part of that list of 45 that you referenced earlier and others because of some of the things and the information that they are having. to abide by within their state, that's caused some of those issues too. So we're wrapping up, we're working on other ways to be able to still provide access to young people through faculty who have a diverse level of understanding, diverse mix of individuals so that they can still impact our country so that we can be better and continue to grow. But it's been very challenging for us from a financial standpoint, a significant financial hit has come our way as a result of this and we're working through to fight through so that we

can continue to provide opportunities. So for folks who are unaware, so what exactly was the PhD project doing for these students? Were you funding their travel? What was actually happening? And first of all, for folks who don't know, how long have you all been around? Sure. So PhD project has been around since 1994. And what we have been done has been able to create a community, a community that includes individuals that were already PhDs mentoring PhD students. PhD students learning and growing and understanding how to be better researchers, how to be better teachers as a part of the process and how to create that community so that they have a positive impact on students that come through both undergraduate and graduate

level programs in business schools. And what we do is provide a forum for those students to get together with those faculty members. We provide access to resources that can help them. You know, one of the challenges and one of the misconceptions that was out there was that we were giving funding to students that fit certain ethnic groups, but not to others. Well, we don't provide funding. We just provide access to information and partnerships that they can then seek opportunities through those. But the influence of the organization has been great in the 30 plus years that we've been around. And that's been what has been a challenge for those who feel like we're helping people who we have traditionally helped and don't think that's necessary.

So here's the question that is, as a result of this, is this going to, in your estimation, lead to a drop? in the number of minority PhD candidates, or are you all working to try to find other ways to keep them involved? Because, and this is the thing that I keep trying to explain to people, that what this is is literally cutting off access to not higher education, but the upper echelon of higher education. So the trickle-down impact of this is that the affirmative action decision in college universities, Well, listen, if you can wipe out black students and other minority students from these Ivy League institutions and then these other institutions, and you start, and it's so bad that we see that Auburn, black alumni, oh, taking their scholarships out.

We're seeing scholarship programs are being impacted, fellowships are being impacted. And what Donald Trump and MAGA is saying is that, oh, this is hurting white students. Yet when you look at the numbers, it's not even remotely close to see how many white students are getting PhDs on an annual basis that far exceeds the combination of black, Latino, Asian American, Native American. It is absolutely, you absolutely correct. So yes, the numbers will decline. And here's the impact that that makes. So there are programs that have been funding research. There are institutions that have been funding research and research that helps people understand how individuals lead research that helps people understand how businesses are built in different economies and different markets. And those funds are being cut. And so the research funding is being cut.

And so if you have individuals that, let's just say, hypothetically, they focused on research where they understood how women leaders lead in comparison to how men leaders lead. Well, now that is deemed as research that could be discriminatory. So the funding could be pulled from that. And then, therefore, we now have a gap in learning and understanding how women leaders lead versus how men leaders lead. Now, if you take that and look at from a gender, beyond gender, and look at from an ethnic standpoint, any diversity-related programming, many... Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are at them.

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and therefore it just gives the opportunities for those who already have those opportunities to get more and the ones who have limited opportunities to have less. Well, and not only that, what they also did is they're trying to change the requirement, if you will, or the classification of people who go to nursing school to say that's not in the medical field, and then what they're also doing, they've capped what folks can get in terms of financial aid for those postgraduate programs. And so the problem is, if you're a black, listen, we know the numbers don't lie.

If you're a black student, you're a Latino student, you know, and Native American student, Asian American, you're talking about you don't have access to those dollars. And so now by capping that, folks are like, wait a minute, if I don't have the extra $20,000, now I can't get my PhD. And this is what I've been trying to explain to my audience since the inauguration of Trump last year, that what we are seeing, how I framed this,

is a massive effort with Project 2025 to defund Black America, that they are attacking multiple institutions and that is having a profoundly negative impact on our people. Well, absolutely. There's an organization that you and I both are affiliated, and part of what we do is try to get to know the best of one another. We, through some scholarship funding, have provided hardship scholarship dollars for,

to distribute to students that are in need. We've had two universities to tell us that they can't accept those funds because of who those funds have been traditionally going to. So they can't even help students that are in hardship through funding from us as an organization now. So it doesn't just impact what we see and what's overt in terms of some of these things where you have programs that are going away. but they're students who maybe fell on hard times because they had a car that needed repair and could not afford books or could not afford to pay their bill

for the rest of that semester. It impacts the academic system overall. Well, first of all, you're talking about Sigma Phi Fraternity Incorporated, the Bullet. I ain't got a problem actually saying it. But let me tell you, this is what Tom Joyner did. Let me tell you what Tom Joyner did.

When Tom Joyner had the time join, and this is what I think our black nonprofits is going to have to do as well. When Tom joins his foundation, he did not send the money to the schools. He sent the money to the students. And I think what's going to happen is, with these organizations going to say, well, you can no longer have your black alumni scholarship through the Alumni Association. That's where we say, okay, fine.

We're going to keep our money. Then we're going to send the word out. If you're a student, if you're an African American student, you've got a hardship, you let us know, and then we're going to do it. And then we're going to do it that way. Alfonso, what I have been saying all across this country, if that this is a moment where African-Americans, to be perfectly honest, are going to have to return

to how we moved and flowed during Jim Crow, where we are, where we are, frankly, insulating ourselves, but we are pulling our resources. And I'm like, look, he's going to be there three more years. The attacks on black people are going to continue. And so what we have to be doing right now is saying, okay, since y'all are putting up these barriers, we're going to find another way to ensure

that our black students are going to be funded and taken care of, and they're not going to be followed by the wayside because of this white nationalist agenda as coming out of the White House. We have to make sure that we create opportunities for everybody who deserves it, like our people, to be able to have the academic success, the opportunities that they deserve.

And you and I both know that you can go to any inner city in the country and seek talented young people that just need to be inspired and need an opportunity. And we've got to figure out to the point that you made how we work together to be able to create these opportunities and continue to create these opportunities at the lowest level of academia. So K through 12 all the way up to the PhDs because if we don't have the PhD's teaching, and that's why I can appreciate many of. of the panelists that you bring on, they help to bring knowledge in spaces that people aren't able to get them in academia right now. And with all of what you mentioned that's happening in Texas and other places

where they're trying to remove certain classes and certain opportunities for people to know and understand how to better integrate or to better live on their own academically, then we have to fill those gaps. And to your point, the way we, we fill those gaps is we bond together and work together to figure out new ways to be able to create opportunities for success. And that's part of what we're trying to do now with the PhD project.

We realize that we have to create new programs that are self-funding. We have to also call upon the alumni who have come through our programs to help us with funding, to replace the funding that the universities had typically given us as part of the partnerships that they aren't able to do at this point. Absolutely. Give folks the website if they want to be of assistance to the Ph.D. Project. Sure.

It's www. phdproject.org. And we have an area there where you can join what we call the Vanguard Society and the Vanguard Society. Just people that are interested in helping to propel academia through the programs that we offer. again, that's PhDproject.org. The Vanguard Society has a specific page there, and you can join us and really be engaged in supporting it. Even if you're not a person in academia, but you're a person that's interested in educational access for all.

That's what we're trying to protect and build and grow upon. All right there. Now, Fonzo, I'm Hamler. I appreciate it, bro. Thanks a lot. All right, thank you. And I'm glad that all of that other black and gold left from behind you because the purpling

goal is really what we like to back. Hey, hey, hey, no, first of all, let's be clear. It's alphas all around here, so you know we outnumber y'all amegas at any time except in prison. Oh, no, that's not right, man. You know, Pagia just got better in 1911. They started in 06, but in 2011, they got better. You opened that door.

You opened that door. I wasn't trying, I was not trying to go there, but I closed that door. Hey, you got the mic last, so I'm going to quit while I can. Yeah, and the only reason I'm not rocking an alpha shirt today because tomorrow is the 61st anniversary of the assassination of Malcolm X and his daughter Il Yasser Chavaz sent me this shirt and their partnership with active black. That's the only reason you ain't seen me dripping in black and old gold.

And don't remember. Hey, Lanny is one of my favorite. Lanny is one of my favorite people in the world, man. So thanks for supporting him. And you guys have a great convention. And, you know, sometimes you got to get some love where it's due. I appreciate it. Thanks a much.

Let's bring it by panel, Matt Manning, Sylvice, Attorney out of Corpus Christi, Texas. Wancouni, Sianch. She's the co-founder of Power Ticking Out of D.C., Michael M.O.T. host African History Network show out of Detroit. Let have all three of you here. Wincolny, I want to start with you. Again, I'm trying to explain to people. This is a direct attack on.

black America and people need to stop playing around and wake up to see what is going on by Donald Trump and MAGA. This is a white nation's administration that does not want to see black folks succeed. The number one way that you address and dismember of black communities to start with their educational system rolling. This is why they wouldn't let black people read back when we were enslaved peoples. And so now they're doing the similar thing by trying to this member organizations like the PhD project, by severing them, by cutting their funding,

by making universities scared to partner with them. My question, Roland, would be, why aren't we looking into organizations like Turning Point USA that are all over college campuses throughout this nation? Is it because they're not racially motivated? Is that what's coming down from this administration's pipeline? It's really frustrating to see that organizations

like the PhD project are being unfairly and unjustly targeted, simply on the behest of race when we see organizations like PhD Project, the links, the boule, doing things to uplift the African American community, but not only the African American community. I think what the links president said was really, really fair in saying is that we know that the links are doing things

nationwide to help people all different races, all different socioeconomic statuses, and so it's really unfair targeting. Look, Matt, I mean, I've got some folks, who are concerned that they're going to come after the black Greek leader organizations. And here's the deal. Alpha was integrated before the armed services was. I mean, and so this is, but people have to realize that, again,

there's a bullseye on the target of black people in all minorities, and what they want to drive is a white agenda, and that's what this is all about by trying to cut off access the colleges and universities. I think you're exactly right. And the two things I'll add to that is first, you know, colleges, as I've said on this show many times, colleges and universities are supposed to be places where in society we think it is sacred for diverging opinions, diverging positions to be bandied about, to be debated. That's the whole reason you go to college, not only to learn, but to further cement your thought process and some of your own beliefs.

So the idea that that's being attacked as an institution, if you will, across the board. in the country is really just a really terrible thing for the country, not only from a scholarship standpoint, but from the idea of culturally we need to have these places where we think it's sacred, not only to learn, but to really fight about and grapple with ideas. But the second thing that really sticks me as stupid in this instance is as the United States of America sees greater competition from China, India, and all these other countries around the world, it just makes sense to do the opposite. It makes sense to get as many. people as possible into the highest levels of academia and the highest levels of learning.

So that translates to American progress as it relates to science and mathematics and all the other things around the world where we see ourselves losing significant ground. So even if you take this from a nationalist standpoint, being proud of America and wanting America to be advanced, this is directly counter to that idea because it's instead about the white agenda, as you've mentioned. But to me, it makes no sense if the whole idea is trying to make America as strong as possible. Yeah, but they don't care, Michael, because they believe that white people are losing opportunities, which we all know is a lie. And so that's why they're targeting black people and people

of color. Absolutely. And Roland, I was just about to go back to that article from April 1st, 2024 for maxios.com, that predicted what would happen. It's called Trump Allies plot anti-racism protections for white people. And it talks about what would happen in the second Trump administration and it said allies of Trump want to dramatically change the government's interpretation of civil rights era laws to focus on anti-white racism

rather than discrimination against people of color. And when you read the information coming from the Department of Justice, their rationale in Associated Press as an article on this, the Department of Education cites Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act,

which bars discrimination on the basis of color, race, or national origin. So Leonard McMahon is saying that the PhD project is in violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. At the same time, when Donald Trump at the inauguration, January 20th, 2025, said they want to fulfill Dr. King's legacy, fulfill his dream. Remember that?

Okay? And now they're destroying everything that Dr. King and Josea Williams and Jesse Jackson and others fought for. So this is what we were warning black people about. Now, my question is, where are all the black people who say, do for self? Where are your programs to help offset this? Yeah, well, first of all,

they're usually those various civil rights laws against us. I think when Cooney's right, we need to be going after those folks suing them as well. We need to understand what their entire game plan is. Folks, hold tight one second. We're going to go to a quick break. We come back. We're going to talk about what's happening here.

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what is used to be the Audubon Ballroom where they're going to be, of course, commemorating that events. If y'all can show that, that'll be great. And so if you go to the event bright, you will see it right there. And so the 61st annual commemoration of El Hajman Leek, El Shab. So that's taking place again tomorrow. Taking place again tomorrow. Now show the website if y'all want, listen, a lot of y'all buying bootleg stuff.

going to buy Malcolm X. Gear, buy it from their site because the funds are supporting that location and the program that they have there as well. So if y'all have the website, so please, this is the actively black website. So they have a number of, to the partnership with the Shabazz family, and so the proceeds, they get a portion of that. So please, if you're going to wear Malcolm X. Gear, please support them in doing that. Folks, as I said, I'm here in College Station, Texas. As you see, I lay in earlier. I'm still registered vote in Dallas County, so I flew to Dallas, voted, and then drove here to College Station where my frat there office a meeting for their state

conference. Nearly 600 brothers are here. You've got regional conferences that are coming up as well this year. And listen, we're in the election year. And I've been making a point that what we have to understand is that we have to be maximizing our power, especially in the state like Texas. Texas has more eligible black voters in any state in the country around 4.5 million. The problem is when you look at

turnout, we're not maximizing our numbers. Y'all have heard me say numerous times that we should be trying to hit a 70% minimum threshold. And so when we are voting at 48, 50, 52%, then what then happens is we're not maximizing our vote.

The reality is this. If we're voting here and white folks are voting here, if we take it up, we actually win. In this state, in this state, black, Latino, Asian American, Native Americans comprise 60% of Texas, yet of the people who actually vote 60% white. That's why Republicans have controlled Texas for the last 30 years. They control all statewide offices because we're not maximizing our vote. Earlier today, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockin, who's running for the United States Senate,

she actually came to the conference and spoke, and I believe also representative of James Chalarico spoke as well. My next guest, step on over, J-Swah Robo, Eina Bakeri, Deputy Director of Texas Council of Alpha Chapters, joined me right now. And so walk us through what are you, what are the brothers doing to really, first and foremost, make sure that every Alpha in this state is registered, is going to vote. But how are we utilizing Alpha's capacity? Because what I keep have been saying for years is that if you look at the number of D9 chapters in every single state, we are significant,

but we're not using that power appropriately. Let me just make sure your microphone is on here. I don't think I turn it on. And so I just think that a big issue for me is that we talk about GOTB efforts and things along those lines, but we can actually be doing more. So right now, we're at an inflection point in our country. And an inflection point means that significant change may happen,

Not that it will happen. And so right now the zone is being flooded. As a black person, you're probably overwhelmed with all of the things that are being attacked. Every piece of black culture, black society, black identity is being attacked by this white nationalist government. There's just slide this right way here. Keep going, keep on. And so what we have to do is we have to, one, You're right, make sure that every brother is voting.

So we have to make sure that every brother is knowledgeable of the issues. Next, we have to go out into our community and help those in our community understand where their pain point is on the ballot. Right. Because if we can tie their pain to an elected official that's causing it and a candidate that can relieve it, then we can then motivate them to go out and vote. Well, look, look, well, when I voted today, there are there, there, there were several constitutional amendments that were on the ballot. One of them talked about Medicaid for All.

Another talked about an affordable living. And so those are on the ballot. Typically, again, people ignore propositions. But this is how we can change that. And what I have been saying is that it's not just a question of, okay, hey, we hope folks turn out. It's also how we actually do it. And I think what Alpha and other denouin chapters can do

is go get the voter data and break it down by precinct to say, okay, how many people are eligible in this precinct, how many people voted in this precinct, and now we cannot go door to door in this area versus trying to do what I think are a waste of time, larger GOTB efforts where you're not actually reaching people? That's what we're doing in Fort Worth. We're actually taking that voter data,

and we're doing maybe once or twice a month, We're going and we're knocking on doors and we're doing door hangers. And that's something that we're trying to talk to other chapters to get them to do because of the fact that if you're looking at the numbers and you're seeing those who haven't voted that could vote, that's low-hanging fruit there. And like you said, right now, all we have to do, we can get our voting up to 70%. You can see dramatic change in the state of Texas. Now, when you talk about trying to get the other chapters, are y'all establishing a template and saying, hey, this is already a. tried and true. Follow these six, eight steps. You don't have to sit here and recreate the wheel. Follow these six, eight steps. This is how you do it. You implement it. Then you're

going to see the results. Yes, we have a statewide committee that's talking about best practices and they're doing things such as that so that we can align our chapters so that when we are trying to approach this voter turnout. Right now, because of the fact that it's game time, there's no time to recreate the wheel. We have to go with what already works. And so that's what we're doing. You said in Fort Worth, first of all, every black organization should be locked and loaded on Fort Worth. You've got a racist DA there who's been trying to put Crystal Mason in jail in prison for the last nine years. That man's on the ballot. You've got a racist county judge who led the effort to block Elisa Simmons.

They gerrymandered her district. She's not running against him. And so this is one of those moments where every black, you've had black folks run for mayor of the positions. This is where, again, black organizations must be saying we're going to hit every brother and sister in Fort Worth to take those folks out because they are a detriment to black folks in Tarrant County. I was in Alicia Simmons district until I got gerrymandered out. So I'm a victim of it myself. So you're definitely correct. And the thing is that there are enough votes right now in Taryn County for Alicia Simmons to win.

The thing is that we have to get those voters out. Yep. Black people alone, there are enough votes. And so the thing is that we just have to focus. This is not the time to get distracted. This is not the time to get sidetracked with different squabbles. We got to focus on a unified mission right now. Right.

And also, again, we look statewide, East Texas, rich in the votes, but again, not always organized and mobilizing. So this is a massive effort. Obviously, it's a huge state. 254 counties, but what I always say, we have to maximize where our people are, and where you look at black folks in Texas, you really are talking about Harris County, Dallas County, Travis County, Tarrant County, East Texas. That's where we are now. We have other parts as well. You talk about Longview and other parts of the state, but if we lock and low in those places, we can actually see the change. So hopefully we'll see a lot of brothers out there in the Black and Gold. And the point I keep saying, you're putting about the community. One of the reasons people complain about D9, because they don't, that we are so insular in our own business, if we're out there knocking on doors,

if we're doing block walks, and people are seeing us out there doing that, then they probably have a different understanding of what we do. Exactly, exactly. I appreciate it. All right, thanks a bunch. Appreciate it. Folks, we'll go to a quick break.

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and you're watching Black Star Network. Trump, today at the Supreme Court, in a 63 decision, they declared that his use of tariffs in case nearly all of them is unconstitutional, that Congress has the authorization when it comes to those tariffs. He was a little hot, upset, because this has been the cornerstone

of his economic policy. It's been, frankly, schizophrenic. It's had a negative impact on the economy. If you look at in the final quarter of 2025, the GDP only grew at 1.4%. The economy is expected to be 3%. But the folks who also are happy with this here, a number of companies that rely on trade with partners across the country, but also American farmers. John Bored is president of the National Black Farmers Association. He joins us right now.

And John, listen, you deal with this directly. Farmers have gotten screwed because Donald Trump's tariffs have been schizophrenic. crazy, how he's been penalizing and targeting a number of countries. And so this decision is going to have a positive impact. Now, granted, he already has come out and say he's going to use some other law, but trust me, they're going to file a suit there. But for you, you say this is great news. Roland, guess what, brother, I've been on your show at least five times talking about

the terrorists. The president lost, and I won, roller, I won. by 6 to 3. And I've talked on your show before about how the terrorists are illegal, illegal. And for the first time, I think, in my life, the Supreme Court really said, you know, John Boyd is right on this one. The president tariffs have put Americans farmers out of business, put us into bankruptcy, foreclosure. We have our farmers that are committing suicide. and the names that this president was calling the Supreme Court justices, you know. And now we haven't always agreed with their decision, but the names that he called the Supreme Court justices from the White House.

And then on top of that role, and he used the White House today. To me, he violated the Hatch Act. He said, vote Republican from the microphone right there in the White House. So the president is deplorable in my standpoint of what he's doing. But for the day for a few minutes, we won and he lost. Well, first of all, they always violate the Hatch Act. They don't give a damn by violating the law because they do whatever the hell they want to do. So that's no shock right there.

But again, people, I saw one story that said last year, 15,000 farms shut down, the highest number in years. And listen, a lot of these farmers, they voted for Trump. They're getting screwed by the same fool. And so I don't understand why these farmers, these white farmers, I don't understand why they ain't marching on Washington, D.C. I mean, this man's economic policies are destroying family farms, destroying jobs, leading to suicides and bankruptcies. And the rally is they still support this idiot.

And they voted for them three times, man. They voted for them three times. And guess what? The only farm I saw on the 24-hour news. cycle was me. I haven't seen any white farmers who are on a brink of losing their farms, speak out and say, you know what, the Supreme Court made the right decision. They're still supporting this president. They're going down supporting this president. And the last time we was on the show, I mentioned to you how they kind of disinvited me to the White House, the White House

meeting. All this stuff, didn't have a black farm at the table, didn't have a black farmer. in the audience. So today is great news for me that this president got up with some bad news. He's been giving us bad news for a whole year, Roland, but today he got some bad news. And you can see from his emotion from the White House that he was angry. He was angry. And these 10% proposed tariffs that he has, it can only last for 100 plus days. So it's just something to try to take away the steam. Yep, 150. Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, 150 days.

And you talk about not being invited to that meeting. All of those dancing, laughing Negroes I call the help who were at the White House for Trump's Black History Month reception, didn't see a damn thing. And so they claimed they support black people, but they were real quiet when you were not invited to the table, but that's really how they are. And so we certainly will see what happens when it comes to these tariffs, but certainly this is actually since he's been there. This is the first time this Supreme Court has went against Donald Trump. He thought he had been locked up. He thought he had it locked up and you're right. He

made direct appeals to them, but it was a 63 decision. Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the majority and it's no shock that that non-carrying Negro Clarence Thomas, the of Samuel Lido and Brett Kavanaugh, they were the three votes. They were allowed. Trump to do what he wants to do. And so it was Amy Coney Barrett and John Roberts joining with the three liberal slash progressive justices. And so certainly good news. And I really hope they rule against him as some other cases.

I doubt they're going to rule against rule in our favor in the Louisiana versus Cali case. But I certainly hope it happens. And, you know, this is the truth. All right, John. So, John, so hold of John says you decided, you know, come on the show. Just do understand. I did come back home. So let me go ahead.

Let me go since you got your black hat on. Yes. So I'm here in Texas. So I had to rock my Stetson. So it's just, you ain't going to be the only one coming on this show with a black cowboy hat.

Hey, Rowling, you look good, man. You look good. You look good, man. But you know what? This ain't the first. Yep. You look good, man. This is the first time

that the President of the United States got a hard no in this country. This is the first time that the Supreme Court really stood up to him and said, no, because the other decisions, they were soft, gave him soft language, and gave him a way out and around stuff. But this time, it was a clear no, 6 to 3

that his tariffs are illegal. That's the word I've been using on your show. They're illegal. And the Supreme Court supported that definition that I've been using, and these tariffs have put America's black farmers out of business, man, and it's hurt white farmers

even far more. So, this president gets what he deserves on this one. It was a low blow to his whole platform. Well, it certainly hurts his ego as well. John Boyd, we appreciate it a man. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Ronald, for having me, brother.

And I look at a good Manhattan, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I appreciate it. Let me go to my panel. I'll go to you, Matt. Bomb lines is here. Thank God this Supreme Court finally woke the hell up because they were kissing his ass at every turn

when it comes to these rulings. And he needs to understand that he's not a king. And John was right. He was hot. He was meeting with a group of governors. They said his head was going to explode. He was so angry when an aide handed him a note. And he goes, I guess this means we lost.

And they were like, yes, that's exactly what it means. Yeah, and I'm glad. I like the way John framed that, too. This is the first time he's gotten a hard know. It's been a long time coming. And he got a hard know from Gorsuch and Roberts, who, in my opinion, have been complicit with a lot of the times that the Supreme Court has allowed him to do things that are either questionably constitutional or blatantly unconstitutional. So it's good that they had this force. It's good that they made a common sense ruling and showed that the statute did not allow for the interpretation that the government was taking. And I think there are a couple attended circumstances here, or collateral consequences, if you will, that come out of this. The first is the Republicans who are finally growing some gumption and wanting to step away from Trump, I think, can start to do that more. I saw that Massey and Don Bacon and some other people were rejoicing about this. Now, they're going to say it's just about conservative values.

But I think a lot of them are trying to step away, hopefully, and this will allow them to do that. Two, I think this will allow Congress to be a little more strengthened in its legislative policymaking, hopefully. And three, I hope it also lets, you know, Trump know that the Supreme Court is only going to let him go so far. I hope they start reining that in. And I think it shows that if you are a part of the Trump administration or aligned with them, you're only as valuable to them as long as you're providing them the value that they want. I mean, for the president to call the justices that ruled against him, quote, disgraceful, he's the same people he would be lauding if they let him do what he wanted to do. So that shows it's about him getting his way,

not about a true value, and hopefully people start stepping away from that plantation. Michael, I saw this one Republican senator, Bernie Moreno, say, we should have an up and down vote in the Senate, giving the authority to the Congress. And I saw a Republican strategy to say, oh, you would be handing the Democrats an absolute gift if that happened. Yeah, they would. Now, it's important for people to understand,

the ability to tax a span belongs to Congress. That's Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution. So, and this, and even though Trump said he was going to use the 1974 Trade Act to impose 10% tariffs for 150 days, if he does that, this will, this will drastically help Democrats in the 2026 midterm elections. because all see now personally personally i hope down on trump shows his entire ass for the next three years that's just me because i want everybody to look and see this is what you voted for he's the you got white you got white farmers losing their businesses committing suicide you got people 22 million people lost the affordable care act uh health subsidies things of this nature because of this idiot but if if he doubles down and does this you're going to have a lot of those Republican senators

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because of the increase in tariffs, right? And we see black people losing their jobs at the same time. We saw 8.3% unemployment for African-Americans, and a lot of that deals with the tariffs, and then we just got the news this week that 2025 was the worst year for hiring since the year 2020. Okay? So this is good news for the rule of law, but we have to stay vigilant. And once again, this is an example of how elections have consequences.

Hashtag we tried to tell you. I get a kick when Cooney out of these idiots trying to spin, oh, how amazing and phenomenal this economy is. No, it's not. and terrorists have really wreaked havoc on this economy because Trump has been so ridiculous. I mean, levying tariffs because he didn't like the tone of another country's leader. I mean, he was on a phone call with him. This shows how much of an idiot this guy is.

I mean, let's look at Brazil. He hit them with a 40% tariff. He imposed 25% levies on India as punishment for importing Russian oil. I mean, this guy really think he's the king of not only the United States, but the entire world. I'm really curious about, you know, what Costco and Crocs and Revlon are saying, they're turning to the courts and they want a refund. They want a refund on the levies that they've paid on these imports because these imports, these tariffs have already been levied, right? People have already shelled out millions and millions of dollars on this. So what happens to the major companies that don't have their money back now, right?

And so United States Treasury would be in complete havoc if all these companies started seeking their refunds. But I think they really need to because quite honestly, I think now that it's been declared illegal officially by the Supreme Court, there should be some sort of justification for people who have been spending their money on these illegal tariffs. The average household, Roland, if we go from companies to individual households, has lost 1,000, 7,000. in real income. This is the guy that said he was going to help improve the United States economy. I think not. Absolutely.

Folks, let me ask you all this here. If you want to talk about how crazy this world is, Donald Trump has a labor secretary who has been accused of sexual relations with staffers. Her husband is now barred from going into the building because he allegedly groped a couple of staffers. Can somebody explain to me why this ain't a big deal? I mean, it's crazy, Michael, to see how mainstream media goes,

ah, that's just one of those things in the Trump world. And also this here, the D.C. police have searched the office of Labor Secretary Lori Chavez de Riemer as a law. look at the allegations against her husband. I mean, this entire administration, when you just look at the corrupt nature and it's all been treated as, I mean, really no big deal.

Well, you know, Roland, when you got a man who is a 34-time convicted felon, who became president after inciting insurrection in violation of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of 1868 and who was found liable for sexually abusing E. Gene Carroll. I mean, well, I mean, yeah, you know, a lot of things were pale in comparison to that. Now,

I saw this story from the New York Times, and, you know, oh, I forgot. At the same time, his best friend was a convicted pedophile, okay? So a lot of things were pale in comparison to this, okay? But I saw this story from the New York Times, and, you know, I said, you know, way, I mean birth of a feather flocked together so you've got

Christy Knoem allegedly in the relationship with Corey Lewandowski you've got the Labor Secretary's husband who's barred from the premises you've got Donald Trump I mean

now at the same time you know a lot of people thought Obama was going to was going to embarrass America look at what what you have right here. Donald Trump show you, I hope he shows his entire ass for the next three years.

Well, the rally is nothing is going to happen, Matt. They have openly about Nazis and white nationalists and white supremacists and racist serving so they don't care. Let's see, groping, having affairs, Donald Trump

said that's the day ending in D-A-Y. Yeah, I like her you said that. That's exactly right. I think Michael hit the nail on the head. I don't have too much to add besides one thing I think is actually interesting is that my understanding is the Inspector General in the Department of Labor has started to look into some of these allegations. And I think that's so important because that's another, you know, to use Michael's term, right? That's why elections have consequences. When you have a president who wants to get rid of Inspector Generals, you want to get rid of Inspectors General because you don't want somebody checking the work that's independent of you. So if this ends up being substantiated as an allegation, it's proof. positive as to exactly why you need independent arms of the government that can't always be, you know, subject to the president's will or some other powerful person's will or whim, because what they do is they take away accountability. So if there is some meat on this bone here to these

allegations, if the inspector general is the one that uncovers it, that shows exactly why it's important to have those roles. And I think you're also right. I think this has just kind of become old hat. I mean, on one of the last episodes of this show that I was on, we talked about a potential candidate or the person they were trying to nominate to go in front of the United Nations who talks about the great replacement theory. I mean, none of this is surprising at this point. This administration is just going to try to do whatever they want, but hopefully with the Supreme Court's ruling today and some of the changing headwinds, we start to see that they're not able to do that with the impunity they've been able to do it thus far.

Winconi? Yeah, I'd agree with the two previous panelists. I think this is a discussion miscarriage of justice. And I think that I'm really happy to see that they're further investigating Chavez DeRiemer's husband. I think obviously sexual assault, sexual misconduct has become normalized in this White House. And I'll dissent a little bit from what Michael said. While I don't want him to continue to show his ass, I fear he's going to. But unfortunately, you know, the sexual assault and that being like a common practice in the White House now, it's a really scary. scary thought. The last thing we want to do is have people think that it's okay to walk

around, you know, assaulting and abusing women, and particularly when they're in a position of power, whether you're directly in a position of power or you're married to an official position of power. It's a miscarriage of justice all the way through. Unfortunately, America's not much of an example of that anymore, but I hope that at some point we can straighten up and start to fly this plane right. Absolutely. Let me think when Cooney and Michael Yeah, go ahead Go oh I was just going to say

This past weekend in addition to watching centers I also watched the becoming documentary Michelle Obama and I was just going to say She talked about how she had to parse every word Because every word was weighted in the in the microscope was on her When she became first lady And it's just amazing how like spouses of labor secretaries and things like that are not under any type of similar scrutiny.

Well, that's how they roll. All right, Michael. Win Cooney, as well as Matt, I appreciate y'all being on today's show. Thank you so very much. Folks, hold tight one second. Don't go anywhere. Coming up next, we have Ambassador Andrew Young. Of course, one Dr. Kean's closest confidence.

We'll share his thoughts and reflections on the passing of his longtime friend and colleague, Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson, Senior. Bishop William Barber, a co-founder of repairs of the brief, will also join us to share his thoughts on Reverend Jackson. You're watching, Roland Mark Unfiltered, right here on the Black Star Network. Back at a moment. Pull up a chair, take your seat at the Black Tap. With me, Dr. Greg Carr, here on the Black Star Network.

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But last night, I broke the news. that House Speaker Mike Johnson declined the request by Democrats for Reverend Jesse Jackson, seeking to lie in honor at the U.S. Capitol Rotunda. Now, keep in mind, there's only four times in American history that citizens have lied in honor. Now, an official lies in state, citizens lie in honor. Rosa Parks was the first, Billy Graham was the second, and the two cops who died in the aftermath of the January 6th, they also got that honor as well. In terms of politicians, black politicians, former Congressman Elijah Cummings was first, Congressman John Lewis was second.

Congressman Cummings lied in honor in Stuary Hall. Louis, they happened doing COVID, so they had him on the E-steps because he was supposed to initially supposed to be in the Capitol Ritanda, but he was in the E-steps of the Capitol. And so, so media has been reporting left and right, but the rally is, I broke it last night. I got a sore suit told me that, and I got a confirmed on Capitol Hill as well. And keep in mind, these Republicans, Donald Trump lowered the flags in this country, Lord to have staff in honor of Charlie Kirk. A lot of people have been commenting on social media. Charlie Kirk did not lie in honor at the U.S. Capitol. But flags were lowered. Trump has made no such declaration, and you have this going on right here.

Let me know we've got the panel back. I want to get them the way in here. I mean, the reality is, so this is what Speaker Johnson said. They claim they really went back to the old rules that only presidents, the honor of lying in state or lying in honor, is only reserved for former presidents who pass away. But the reality is leadership can change the rule they want to. Democrats did that. They made other exceptions, and so those things have happened.

But that was the decision that was made. And so, been live talk, loud chatter on social media. about how Republicans are, you know, frankly, not properly acknowledging the contributions of Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr., but there's no, there's no shock to me that they would do this, that they would not honor Reverend Jackson in this way, because he was a thorn in their heel. And so, but in the reality they're not going to go above partisanship at all. And so you got that going on. Also, keep in mind, we told you last night, we had Congressman Jonathan Jackson, on the show. And so the funeral plans of Ribbon Jackson have been released. They're still affirming up,

so we're still waiting at the details of when he's going to lie in state at the South Carolina Capitol and what's going to be happening here in Washington, D.C. But he will be lying in the state of Rainbow Push in Chicago on Friday, February 27th, and then, of course, the following week, March 4th, March 5th, then on March 6th, You're going to have the people celebration taking place at the House of Hope in Chicago. That's where all the dignitaries and the main speakers, former presidents, are going to be on March 7th. There's going to be a private funeral taking place at Rainbow Push as well. So that's what's going on there. So do we have Matt, Michael, and Wincunee back?

Okay. So Wincunee, so we got you there. Do you just want to get your thoughts on the Republicans not going to be? granting Democrats their request to have Reverend Jackson lie in honor at the U.S. Capitol? Honestly, Roland, I think it's just another explanation of how bipartisan, how nonpartisan this House has become. It's really, really scary when you're pushing this hyper-partisanness to a level where people can't even respect people who have worked their entire, entire career equality in this country and I think it's just another exemplification of the fact that the

Republican Party is not the Republican Party that we've known it to be historically I think now we've seen it turn into a party of white supremacists and although some people may contest that that's what it was before I think we used to see there was an era of a more moderate Republican I think now what we're seeing in the Republican Party is is a lot of people that are you know uncloped as I would colloquially put it and so they are are really, really less of Republicans and more of people that are lying in and with this MAGA party. And so I think when we're thinking more so about the Republican of today's era, this doesn't

actually surprise me. But it is a slap in the face to Jesse Jackson. It's a slap in the face to all of the things that he's accomplished over the years. It's a slap in the face to Black America. But quite frankly, I think that's exactly what it's intended as. Well, of course it is. And so this is what we have long expected. And so, you know, those things happen.

We are, of course, waiting to connect with Ambassador Andrew Young at his home in Atlanta. So we're working on that as we speak. So let's do this here. Let's go to a break. And we come back. We hope to have Ambassador Andrew Young ready on the show to talk about his longtime friend, Reverend Jesse Jackson, Sr. Pass away at the age of 84 on Tuesday.

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He had style. Oh, he was cool. We'd watch him at different functions where he'd speak and captivate the audience, mesmerize them, and get them to understand the importance of the moment. All great style. But he had something else that I didn't realize until actually the 80s. I ran into him once again. We had been friends and had come across each other's past several times.

But this particular time I was on tour with a stage play going from state to state. And our paths was crossed because he was also crisscross in the country, running for President of the United States. And it was then I realized how much courage Reverend Jackson had. Because he would step on the elevator with these guys surrounding him, his bodyguards. And it was then that I realized, whoa, this man is serious. He understands the gravity of this moment. And yet, he's stepping into it. Pure courage.

Yeah. Yeah, he stepped up. He stepped up big time. That's what we need now. Who will step up in these times? Who like Irvin Jackson without putting others down, without trying to appease or get likes? Who will step up?

Who has the courage to fill this man's shoes? Reverend Jackson, he kept hope alive. I'm going to miss you. Hey, everybody. It's Yolanda. Thank you, Roland, for this opportunity. I cannot, man, the last time I saw Dr. Jesse was at Sheila Jackson Lee's service. And they were moving everybody so quick and fast and everything.

I didn't get a chance to give him a hug because I always, whenever I would see him, I would always give him a hug. We go back so far many, many moons ago in the, what was it, late 80s, early 90s, when I would come to Chicago and he would come to the concerts. And then he invited us to different functions like prayer breakfast and things like that. And he became a really hardline supporter of everything that we did. Of course, he loved gospel music, loved music, period. I just, you know, I knew as his help,

was fading. We wouldn't see him around and about as much. But I'm just grateful that the pain is gone to the Jackson family, to all of the people who have been touched by his life, his legacy, his laughter, his corny jokes. I know I'm not the only one because Durinda and Lady Tremaine and Dr. Shirley Caesar of course, Donnie and Kirk

I know they've sent you videos and stuff but this one this one is a tough one because we all love and appreciate Dr. Jesse Jackson so y'all be blessed and let's continue the fight okay because we won't be satisfied until everyone is treated equally and with the same amount of love all over the world all right thanks folks Pennsylvania State Senator Benson Hughes also shared his reflections

Hey everybody, as you know, we've lost one of the giants of American history, of international history. The Reverend Jesse Jackson just made his transition. Obviously, our thoughts and prayers and condolences go out to his family, and we want to make sure that we're embracing them through this very difficult time. You can never be prepared for a moment like this. There's a lot that can be said about Reverend Jackson. Reverend Jackson had a very close relationship with the city of Philadelphia, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

He spoke on the floor of the House of Representatives to the entire body when he was a very young man. Before he made his runs for President of the United States, he is an individual that didn't watch history being made from the work he did with Dr. King all the way up to present day. He didn't just watch history being made. He made so much history.

As I said, from watching the Voting Rights Act getting signed into law to, in fact, standing there in Chicago as Barack Obama walked across the stage, having won the election for president in November of 2008. Reverend Jackson was clearly fundamental in all of those spaces in all of that time

making history, not just watching it. And there's so much more to be discussed about Reverend Jackson, but it's a lesson for all of us that we should not stand on the sidelines, that we should always be engaged in, if you will, the passion and the action about times. Don't let someone else write the history. You write the history.

You create your story. You fight for the justice that we all deserve to live in. In fact, maybe the best testimony, the best way we can salute his work is to make sure that everybody is registered to vote, that everybody is speaking truth to power. And that we're not just registered to vote, that in fact we go ahead and vote. We go ahead and vote. You want to send a tribute to Reverend Jackson. and that's probably the best one that you can send. Thank you, Rev.

Thank you so very much for having such an impact with so many, including me. All right, folks, I want to give Wincuney and Michael opportunity to share their thoughts of the passing Reverend Jackson's life and legacy. Wincunee, you first. Yeah, I think, you know, growing up as a young person, everybody always heard of Jesse Jackson and his illustrious presidential runs,

it was so inspiring that a man could just rise up, and really throw his hat in the ring to be the commander-in-chief of this nation. And I think at that time in life, that was a position that was still held in the highest reverence, right? And I think what Jesse Jackson did was solidified the notion that we could be in those spaces.

And he championed that, even though he didn't win that election. I think he won in the hearts and minds of many Americans and really opened the door for people like Barack Obama to later run and successfully win the campaign for president. Not only that, but Jesse Jackson acted as a mentor to so many different civil rights leaders and champions. And particularly at this time in American history where we see a dearth in leadership, I think we really look through the Reverend the Reverend Jackson's of the past to see who our future leadership will be. I think we need more courage, as some of the previous speakers might have mentioned, because we need to be courageous in this time and who will take up the mantle

where our grates and our champions have fallen. And so I think this is a time of pause and reflection within the African-American community to really think about Jesse Jackson's legacy, the legacy he left and the legacy that's to come. And it's not just as children that are mourning a champion and a giant, but the black community and black America as a whole. And I think we need to challenge ourselves with the question of who will be the next Jesse Jackson's, the next Malcolm X's, who will be the champions of this new era and this new generation? Because it's really pivotal that we identify those in order to move forward in these really challenging and perilous times. Michael Yeah, you know

This is a big loss And I'm a little older Than Wen CUNY So I remember when I was a kid Growing up in the 1970s I had an Afro as well And you know We grew up with

Muhammad Ali We grew up with Reverend Jesse Jackson I remember seeing Reverend Jesse Jackson on Sesame Street Now I may have not been when they originally aired, but I was a kid, and, you know, I was watching Sesame Street. We saw him in the end.

I remember hearing him talked about on the TV show Good Times, because I remember when all those episodes of Good Times, most of them originally aired. And, you know, he was the bridge between the assassination of Dr. King and then going into the 1980s. I remember seeing him on the TV show a different world. I remember when that originally aired saying that. I remember 1984, 1988 when he ran for president. That was something huge for us. And even the nation of Islam were telling people to tell him black people to vote for Jesse Jackson.

So this is a huge loss. And also, Roland, I had the pleasure of interviewing Reverend Jesse Jackson when one of the times, I guess, hosted your nasty syndicated radio show as well. So that was an experience. But something that people don't talk about a lot is that night, it was wrong, 1981, that Coca-Cola economic boycott, which built upon what he did with Operation Breadbasket in Chicago. And that was one of the most successful economic boycotts African-Americans have had since the Montgomery

Bus Boycott. And a lot of people don't talk about that. It was about a month long. I remember seeing stories about it on like ABC news and things like this in the early 1980s. And it was about a month long economic boycott. We stopped buying Coca-Cola and it led to Coca-Cola bottling distributorships for African Americans, more jobs for them, things of this nature.

So that was one of the most successful economic boycotts we've done. had and you don't see a lot of that coming from civil rights organizations now. He did that, I think, remember correctly that was Operation Push, because he started Operation Push when he left SCLC and Operation Breadbasket. So this is a huge loss, and I echo Glenn terming about who's going to fill his shoes. It would probably be a collective that does at a collective organization. But we need to really study Jesse Jackson. You don't have to agree with everything he said or did because I had some disagreements with him.

But this is somebody powerful to learn from. And then after the 1988, even though he lost in 1988, didn't get the nomination, he was able to get the Democratic Party to change and go to the proportional. um yeah you know in that and that and that ira ron obama yeah go from going from where to take all go over what right going to take all the proportional uh absolutely yes i got to um i got to go to a break i got to go to a break let me thank michael mcuny for sharing your thoughts i appreciate it thank you so very much just go to a quick break hopefully we can sort out the technical issues with ambassador andrew young if not we'll come back with my interview with reverend jesse jackson uh leading up to 18, which commemorated the assassination, Reverend Dr. Martin of the King, Jr., on that Lorraine

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A couple months before that to sit down and talk to River Jackson about his work with Dr. King, and here he is that conversation. This, on February 1st, for the Sammy Dewitt Procter Conference, and that was an anniversary. of Echo Jones, Robert Weaver, the two Memphis sanitation workers who were killed. And it was very interesting being- Fiver first, right? Ferry first. It was very interesting being there and how every year when we talk about the assassination of Dr. King,

forget why he was in Memphis. And so many people don't even know those names. You know, he was organizing the public's campaign. He argued that. He said, we won the boycott of the Montgomery. We can ride the public facilities that. We don't know what he called barbarism. We won the battle of the Birmingham.

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some Latino Americans in the South West group, some of the Chavez group, from Jewish, out of New York, Al Lorenzings, police activists, and some blacks from the deep south. And then we met trying to figure how to march to Washington, have a job on income. He said, come by bus, by train, but come,

and force the country to ship from killing in Vietnam, He didn't get home. He said because bomb dropped in Vietnam. He's closed my house. So while in that kind of mood, he's because these two workers have been killed in Memphis, Jim Lawson called, and said, what you talk about,

to make it concrete, it's in Memphis. You have sanitation. Workers who work, they're working, but they work every day. And they're seeing as just garbage men. They clean the way the germ. They do want to dream one.

when they can see their child, graduate from Scottish as well. So everything about Memphis was compelling than other gains. Emotion, and I plan with dress working poor people. And so those two killings on April 1st was significant

as Jim Daxon been killed, triggering the march and... Cesar Milan, how to add years to your dog's life. Sardines. Nine. Bone broth. Raw eggs blended with the shells. Nine.

Tumric. if you can get your... In summer 1965. You talked about that meeting in January 68. I mean, the period from April 4.67, given that speech beyond Vietnam and Riverside Church to him and assassinated one year to the day. Just the pain, the difficulty that he was facing. Well, you've got pain from black Americans.

you know, the month before he was killed, about 55% the negative among African Americans was simply taking positions against him. The church had closed a full pitch to him during that season. I mean, the Flambers and more hours, I'm with you,

Mike, but I'm not with this. This guy called him Mike. I mean, the news supervisor, The Teros, they say it's a good guy to convince blacks, not shoe whites when they had been bombing him. He said, I was speaking. here, he felt the pain of rejection.

So, three of five of the black said no to not the king. 70% of white said no to him. He was killed. Everybody loved him. They rejected the marcher in versus the martyr. That's why I was so beautiful why because I knew what the talk was in front of his face, the son behind his back. He's all course.

He's all course. He's killed. He's our kind of guy. And that's why I said, we love martyrs. we can quote their poetry, but not marchers. We demand of us to act and to make something happen. And so I remember he is going into the small towns. He would come to a place like Chicago, churches have full.

That's why I developed the idea of, if I give you 50 markets, 20 churches in each market, 1,000 churches. If they convene their churches for Dr. Heng, really, with the pressures, but not the church is full. at the big thing I was to mock it in different kinds of ways. The role, I think, maybe the most graphic way is the weekend before we went to Memphis. I had to be around March 30th, I suppose. He called on Friday night about 9.

He said, I want you guys to meet me tomorrow morning. I didn't want to go. We had a break-bats meeting the next day. It would love him moving. He had been there the week before. We went to come. Bevilleville's Chicago. We said, I think, T.W.

I may have been in Cincinnati or something. So I thought we'd be there. So the kind of rap happened to call by an hour. They just said, look, Martin is challenging us to come together. And rap, I would treat that kind of heavy role for it. But he was kind of, he did the rock. He was the rock. So we soon will be there.

So now we got on O'Hare Airport. We just missed our plane. 7 o'clock. I know y'all are going to miss it. I get you on the 7.40. I know y'all going to miss that plane. And we got to Atlanta. It was about 10 of us, it was Belleville and-L-Razes and DeYoung,

about 10 of us, Darathaca. He said, it's been a tough week for me. He said, I've been with Rab. I've been with Rab and his wife on this all week. Brother and his wife, Jane. And I've been had migraine headaches. Tell him back with him. We've about done much as I can do.

I've been on this 13 years. One month, one, one, one. He said, but now I'm going to end in the war. I can't, I'm a noble peace prize. I can't propagate my sense of justice, killing in Vietnam and healing at home, killing in Vietnam and prospering at home. So I can't do that.

He said, maybe I should just become friends of a normal house. I was around and do speeches, make money, and write books. If I quit, if I turn around, around I'm and that rather and said I don't talk that way saying that be quiet no say peace peace never was no peace then we finish talking it's kind of Jeremiah they know that he's there's no peace and we get really said be quiet we listen he said uh the vacant around because sarah's up and afraid of Douglas who never gave up they wouldn't accept me

I can't go back so maybe I thought maybe about if I was fast to the form of death said it would and said right there's this unit in our movement. He said, as Stokeland, right with friends, we're just against a strategy, and George, Jim Farmer,

and from Hick, and Ron Wilkins and with the Yon, because we're friendly to come up inside. We had all armed before I would die. We could regroup right there. Things were very solemn. They said,

we can tell the minus two, plus we can go on to Memphis, give those workers, and lift them up, when that battle going to Washington, he just kind of talking about depression. I was reading up the moral law, I was taking notes. It was like the three moves of Jesus. Let this cut pass from me. As he prayed disciples slept, did not my weapon have done. He went to the same three moves.

That was that Saturday morning before. When he got through, I remember Bell was another king. We get to Washington. If we get to Washington, why not saw it against us? What's the hook? I understand. So I've blurted out. I thought, can't be good at the hook? We were, in sense, the practice, the pain he was in agonizing.

Plus, it's always that we don't know the leaders are thinking about in the first place. He said, whatever else on his mind. So he said, I don't know what the hook? I said, well, I suppose we had the 50 cities. At that time, GM was the largest company in the country. We took a line of cars, Cadillac, Chevrolet, and whatever. And we said, we were not going to buy that line of cars. and the big gym with convenience fellow cop and they would meet with

first and then. He said, well, we'll try it then. See you guys. We'll walk out the room. I left what back to Chicago, for our family was. It's a Belmont to get together. And he came to, I think, that Tuesday,

he got to it. Atlanta South America a little earlier. The plane I was on, they had to end the plane. It was three. threats because Mother came was on the plane. He said, got off and nothing happened. And he came on in, and then he saw the four of us. What was there happening?

Dr. Hinaw on the balcony. He was just coming in to Pumet Fort at that time. And... That was March 3rd. April. I'm sorry, April 3rd. It was April 3rd. That was the day before.

Y'all on the balcony? I think that April 2nd, I think. Okay. Because that that people wouldn't have met much the menaces in that. next step. We talked about how the organization. Remember in this last week you talked about just a time I'm a Coca-Cola and brought the bread. That was in that speech.

But that had happened the day before. And he said on the 30, he said, well, after talking all day, he said, you know, my dad's asleep. He said, whatever. He said, you know, pop country boy, and then I don't know how house. He came up and out of the city.

So my grandpa was sitting down and brought the church to read the Bible. And so he said, join the church property. He said, and said, once he had a dad, he had a rabbi had a daughter. So dad was all there. And his mom was a parent and private school at that point.

He said, and so dad must rather him, when he got married. And dad reviving his education, he made with education. He said, and can walk through his family tree? And his brother was born and his sister was born and all that. Then he said, I don't feel like speaking tonight. kind of dry just so you go knock on I'm just being the menace was earlier that I shot my best shots knock out of habit

so you ought to do it so the family as added to that said to grab you go so rams just let's go together so that's why rap they end up going together goes where I would always feel like a spot that way so raven not went to the church and it was raining that night that time Mason's up had a tent time work. We've got the door and the side door of the church. People cheer this. The church's about half of them. And they cheered. Right.

They shared. You understand that I cheered for us. They're saying Martin behind us. So we went out to the side of the church, the back of the Mission Temple, back where Bishop Mason is in tune. I went to telephone. Now the telephone.

It says, Martin. You come. just let's let them see you. I'll have to do a lot of talking. To our house and just that I both go to talk. So, Dr. King, we went back and told Dr. King don't know where they did share it again.

Pendae was there, Bishop Patterson was there. I remember that, President. Dr. H. H. H. And so, Rayf King, they cheered. And so the Ralph King was a rather long introduction. I let him buy time. I was, as a picture of me,

trying to deep brief talking to what I thought was happening. I thought was, he was already in his own song. I'm just talking. She got me and said, you know, the end of the time I could live, it should be now. You talk about when the Aristotle lived

and Aristotle needs to start to walk through history and the world history. But this is the time to be alive. And then at some point, he's shipped and said, but I'm not figuring any man. Now, in retrospect, they may have been in his mind, threats on his life,

which he would internally we would never know he was facing the threat of and our fear of death because he always told us that the defense against how Bush and sabotage so don't be afraid of death he convinced us we go to jail without fear and die without fear

we've got to that he didn't share that he said but you guys just to share the pain if the government's heard that he's become his feeling we would redistribute the pain

He said, he was in the mountaintop. I've seen the Trump's land. I may not get there. We will get there. Boy, he said, anyway, that men were crying, menacing were crying. It was like it was so authentic,

so real, so genuine. And, you know, it could happen. It was not going to happen, you know, but it could happen. And so when he got through, we turned and we embraced. The next day, we stayed most of the day, I think the commanders came out for a while

and talked about some of their issues. Around, I had been braced out there in the group of William Bennett, in Chicago, and seeing it at the ground at that night. Right, and he's still in the balcony, and you're downstairs by the car with being branched. I was down there, come across the school, you know, it was in the car, yeah, was coming in a way. We just left a carousel.

and that's just we go into the village house I set to them up and bring the house and his wife he said you don't have a long of ties said no prerequis for eating it's not a tide

it's an appetite he's crazy we laughed about as in the other one is late something he was hour late and Ben spoke to him

he said and he there had been been precious on the saxon the week before at the breakfast in the two weeks before and be in South shoot we should play at the dog doc doc he said

and somebody said get low because it was a hit and we didn't know what the hit was going to be spring so I was on the ground and the rap was in the room and think brother must have been downstairs

the ramp Bill of the cows were back so far trying to go down the steps and that's a picture of Andy with the cows and some of them just fine and then lay the point that way. That pointing is that the bullet didn't come from that way,

because he's only came from that way, and then the police were at their guards wrong, go to the way the bullet came from, that way. That's that picture. Mr. Withers, the photographer, he was there. And he scooped a couple of jars of blood. They give me one, and Ralph, one.

I couldn't touch the blood. I remember Ralph coming back and back. My son, my brother, Mitchett, I'm his dearest friend. Grab, a mom, hold on, we need to hold on home. Not, hold on. But I were gone at that point, you know. So I just got up and read my stuff off. I was standing next door, the room next door.

I called Mrs. King. She was in the bed. She said, just I didn't. I said, I've done this fine. I said, Ms. King, couldn't quite get my mouth together. I said, some readings. I said, the dog been shot, I think, in the shoulder.

I knew that I couldn't say what I had just seen. I wanted to check up in that way. I said, but you should just get him if you can't? She said, I'll be that momentarily. She got about to be it. Apparently for seven, eight minutes, someone called, you know, the press to say he was dead. Man, that's a little program.

I mean, the fires around the country. What excited me the most was, I think it was, it was Reverend, maybe Reverend Jolari said, we came that one bullet killer movement. We were with all the trauma of his death. I remember to be in the room with Parolevante and Sinifonte and Robert Kennedy. Talking about what the other King met to us. And talk on, we're in Washington and Robert Kennedy, you got killed.

Boom, move, back to back. But we'll take, so, go back. If you call Chris Scott King. And before that. he's playing there, y'all surrounding him. And we received the photos of Ralph Abernathy, kneeling next to him. Where are all of you mentally in that moment?

Where are, because, I mean, this is your leader. This is, I mean, you would just joke him. You would talk about going to dinner. Brains frozen. I mean, what do you do except somebody? I think Bill of the college got a sheet with the cup of his face. I think that somebody called ambulance

9-1-1, like was frozen. And the ambulance came rather quickly. It was too late. He was dead upon impact in my imagine. So he did and went out and blows hot out. And so I called we were in Chicago

that time, Don Canese was running the news in the World Wars, my wife and children, and the redfast in Chicago was where the spragile movement was by the time. And so I explained in the press game what happened, Oza and I was standing side by side, that's pictures of that press conference. And rather than go with them to the more of the back Chicago, my family was at, the rest of them lived in land. I lived in Chicago.

So you wanted to get back home immediately? Immediately. Get to my family and give her to come back to Atlanta because if you know, others who went to Atlanta, stayed in Atlanta. I went back to, I went back to Chicago to be with my family to organize them, frankly. And it was so, so it was tough. It's painful. And you know, I'm Clayton Eckerd and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor.

Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral.

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Listen to math and magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing starting March 19th on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A numbness. The kind of adrenaline kicks in the kind of numbness of the brain. And I remember getting home by 1 or 2 o'clock in the morning and 4, 5, 1 o'clock at the airport, lots of great back from Mrs. Lleman, Jackie, and the children and all that. I went home and fell across the bed and took him that, woke up, and sent the first of her. He was there.

He said he served by what happened last night. I got up and went down to City Hall in Chicago. And what upset me about that meeting was the same minister, and politicians who were against him. So I was on April 2nd and 3rd I went on a little more I wanted to kick a table over I mean this is so

And you were You didn't change clothes You were You slept in those clothes You go on the city hall And there's this This outpouring of It's renamed the street

Martin Luther King Drive I thought all that to be so It really been sitting symbolic There's nothing to do with what we lost I never say a $10 street sign for a billion dollar profit. And so I went back

and then and Andrew was in his blue jeans and so was James Orange and double and railroad and everything. We kind of more or less kept on what we had on three or four days. It was just kind of, we had the mule train. It was another place

with exact with suits and dives and three-bee suits if I said that, that kind of scene, you know? And I thought, I thought, Abernath was particularly good. He was doing the straight ministerial processing. And I thought it was traumatized by it in a big way.

They both think he had very clear. I think I'd clear. I don't know where I was with it. There's lots of pain. Jim Lawson said that, first of all, he would have been on the balcony with, and would have gone to dinner with y'all, but he said he promised his wife,

always do dinner with his family. He said that's why he wasn't there. He said earlier in the day that there was a court hearing and he was involved in that, but he said he went home. But he said that in the aftermath, he went straight to work. He said, we kept going. He said, it wasn't until July or August. He said, it was in July when he, when the grief hit him. He said literally between April, April 4th and May and June, he said, we had worked to do. That's what I try to say when I say adrenaline because, you know, if you play involved in the big game and your key guy gets hurt, you can't cancel the game. You can't fall for the game. You've got to suck it up. And in the name of the hurt player play, the name of the name of the deal, you can't give the killers the satisfaction. They stopped the movement. They were not successful and stop us to marching. They were not successful in someone with the resurrection. They were not successful in stopping out. drive the end the war, the impoverty. We kept moving and we already had planned the Reverend Walter

for the former floor in Washington, well, the tent city, the reservation between Lake Memorial and Washington, and Washington, and it seemed like it rained every day. And I remember one morning, Reverend Abbott said, Jesse, I want you to be a mayor of a reverendary city that may convene because everyone give instructions. The press was riding his back because he was saying a lot in Pitch, Motel, I said Pits was four seasons or something. It's a regular kind of neighborhood, black motel. And the press was just peeking at him.

He was on Martin and was right out and did one hell of a job in my judgment during his season of work. And one morning, two people that died have men in the Chinas. Men had seemed to vacate to the camp. Rob Kinney did, the White House turned his back on his same. I was looking at women's face and children for the most part. I didn't have nothing to give them, no bus fare, no food. I read the book by Howard Thurman, Jesus in this inherited.

He said, when you reduce your irreducible essence, when you send naked against the world, you still somebody. You still matter. So I said, I am somebody. They begin to respond. maybe poor, maybe I'm well, but my gun skill. That's what I came from, that moment. That's what, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, we said that, that, we're going to, that, the time.

We said that for a while long, but we kept on marching. It hit me, much later that year. I found myself, I'm afraid we're going to Memphis for a long time, which is, and I don't like to go to the Memphis now. Right. I go. Because that Memphis has a new meaning to me now, sure. Of the kingdom, to me. Atlanta was Bethlehem. He had nothing to do with Bethlehem.

And Mason Temple really was Yosemite, Mount Top. And the balcony was cavalry. In a certain way, I can send somebody going back to Atlanta. But he went to heaven from Memphis. It happened to be the place where the poor blacks of the Delta, of Mississippi and Arkansas and poor whites of Appalachian meet at that Mississippi River. That's where he died. That's where he left us. And that's still a story to be told about when blacks from the Delta of Arkansas and Mississippi and coal who would be cotton and coal mines who

did coal for having common ground, then we'll be in the Jerusalem, so to speak. Does not be said about Memphis as not as a place we was killed, but as the resurrection say, because the resurrection does not take place far from the crucifixion. Memphis has lots of challenge, and there's a new kind of South now. You couldn't have had the Memphis reasons behind the country and we've been not been successful. And down the Falcons, Dallas Cowboys,

you couldn't have had been successful. We pulled out of the country, build a whole new world, a whole whole new South, which laid Broward for new things, America. So his blood fertilized the soil and create the whole new dynamic in American politics. They expect 30 to 50,000 people to come in in Memphis to commemorate his assassination. But what do you want and in fact they expect several

former presidents to be there? I asked Trump at the White House when they that the TV anchors. Does he play on attending? He said he thought so. If Trump is there, what do you want him to leave Memphis with? And what do you want the people to leave with? It's one thing to come there to commemorate,

to remember his assassination. It's different to leave. Oh, then Trump has been to the stature on the mall. Trump's positions are, So, antithelical with Dr. King's vision, he may not be received well. Should he come? Well, it's his choice to make, I don't think he'll not be chaired. It's not like he'll be chaired.

My concern is not that people come for the service, for the celebration, commemoration. Four million blacks in the South are not rich, man. If we can rents to 2 million blacks in the South, we change the South and change the country. In spite of all of the negatives of the company, Trump season, we won New Jersey. And got a black lieutenant governor. Virginia, one guy says he was Robbie Lee in the Confederates and the flag and the statute. The opposition, we won that. And one of every five votes was African America.

We win it. Go ahead. We go to Alabama. And Roam Moore and Trump shoot their best shot. win one of every three blacks after the American so that something at the energy must be turned into every high school senior man to come across a state with a plume in one end of order to go in the other in fact there's a placard there there's a placard well what my concerns right down with the black belt that's

a case that's a case important all the high schools that black principals we've been those high school seniors as you would for the crumb or for graduation. And registered, and there's no George Wallace to stop you. There's no book on to stop it. Like, do it. You know, there's 250,000 blacks in Alabama on the register.

600,000 in Georgia, unregistered. There's a time to show our love for the, the, Dr. King, and the cause, by fulfilling the dream for the full registration crusade drive. That's why when I talk about the National Civil Rights Museum, there's a, I mean, I was there for the 40th. And when I visited, I saw this,

and it has been just locked in my brain for the last 10 years. And the sign said, it was a young girl. She said, all I want for my 18th birthday is a photo registration card. I mean, out of everything in that museum, that's the one thing that is locked into my head. One thing we're doing in Chicago now is an election March 20th. The road closed February 20th. We've gotten in the little.

automatically with the registration. New York, Pennsylvania, and Michigan only have one that to vote. It's on Tuesday. Chicago, you have a month to vote. But there are 10,000 students in Chicago proper alone. We want to have all 10,000 high schools since registered by February 20th. Then that's the suburban rank. There's the rest of the state. This is to energize and unleash these new power, applied civics. All those in city colleges, I'm assuming that they can't afford the additional books, vote for them. All those in college who want tuition lower since the student loans, a greater credit card debt.

I mean, this is the time to fight, not just a criminal rate, to look forward, not just to look backwards. So I know there'll be huge crowds. There'll be those who are in the crowd marching who will not be registered. That's signal. I gave a speech in Georgia State yesterday, and I've said this in numerous speeches. that what troubles me is that every year around Dr. King's birthday, around April 4th, people talk about Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King.

And I was the same. First of all, he accepted a little piece prize for the movement. And so it was family, Hamer, Constable Baker, Michael Motley, Ella Baker. It was all of the folks who were working to make it happen. I said the trouble that I have is he has become what I call America's selfish. civil rights mascot, pull him out, oh,

the king, and makes people smile, they play some speeches, they say, oh, how great he is, as opposed to what you said earlier, what did he stand for, fight for,

and die for? Use that dollar. Economic leverage, so we have a Wall Street project. Use that vote to affect the makeup of races. You put on four million votes across the south.

South of it with Maria de Blue. Because what we proved in Georgia accepted was another fire, the vote's for another fire, in Alabama and Virginia, the southern states, and we voted in coalition with progressive whites, women and workers, we're the new majority. We got the right to vote in 1965. First of them to 85 years protected right to vote. White women couldn't serve on Jervoirists and unleashed that dimension. 18 years couldn't vote. The servant in Vietnam.

Couldn't vote on college campus. Couldn't vote by Laneville. That's three million Americans, for example. That post-Selma generation, that's what drove my campaign in 184-8. That's what drove President Brock to the White House. The post-Selma voters and fighters. And so those who benefit from that struggle have no right to expect much and give little.

I mean, and there are no more dollars. dogs barking and horses kicking and and axes howl being swung by governments to stop us and that requires really doing it and to me that's my way of saying thank you to dr king for his life and for service why did you stay on the path he sent you Chicago for breadbasket others went in different areas why did did you say No, I'm going to stay right here. I could do other stuff.

I was talking to somebody earlier. They said, they said, at Reverend Garnel, Corporate America, he could have sold anything. Had he done any other area? Oh, he could have easily been highly successful. Why did you stay? Because struggle for example just as my ministry. It is my life. My assignment was to look at those stores in the community.

But we cannot be checkout clerks. We can be produced men. We can pick up their garbage. Well, you know, you take a given change to the 10 stores. You get the leather of intent to pick up the garbage for three years. The leather credit, you can get new trucks and sludge. Sludge and swords if you're on the trucks. We built the first chains for a national T-store for the Central Academy.

We began to build a new urban paradigm. It was that. And Breadbatch became such a hot item. before you died, that's why I mentioned in the last week in Memphis, because I saw it a way to fight the economic justice. But I saw the caucus as being the political caucus, black caucus, politics, but then the capital capital of Wall Street. And that which I share, you know, economic principles are different. If you spend more than you make and vote less than you can, that's suicide. You must spend less than making more all that you can.

That's the principle. There are a few companies that can survive our sustained economic withdrawal. Therefore, I went to show with me, Hugh Lackard, and they said, first, in Silicon Valley, that we should not leverage them because aid they could withstand it.

And second of the position was that they didn't have to show the EOI report. We bought shares of stock in 25 companies. That's as opposed to picking it outside with the show was meeting. But you have Bloomberg and New York Times, New York Bureau in the back. So I said, 25% of our company stock is African-American Latino. And we'll know them on our board. We can share them about that much stock.

that we don't have to any of them, not in our C-Strees. They said, wait, wait, wait, where, we're, let's have a meeting. We met, and I must say it was a very good meeting. Now, there are four blacks on the board of HP. Jim Bell's on the board at Twitter, Google. And on the board of Facebook now, it's Ken Chen Chenal.

The board of Twitter is... Debralee. Debralee. The chair who succeeded Bill Gates at... Microsoft. John Thompson. John Thompson. Florida in, by the way. But by going those meetings and leveraging our consumer strength

and our capacity and gender coalition and imagery, that happened. So I find this to be fascinating ministry. I can see the evidence of our work. I see. working and being trained. We're turning out of a thousand treasures, to empty the sun in the school room,

and put 20 laptops and teach our children apps and codes and financial lizards and stock market gain. That may be a million jobs right now, for coders right now. And we can't wait for Trump to train our children. We do it ourselves, and we must. And we can't.

And we will. If he said, Reverend, how are you doing? I appreciate what you've done. What would your response be? Dr. King and Trump? Dr. King. Trump not going to say that.

I never surrender. I never stop. When they said Dr. King's going to Chicago, he's still there. We never stop. Dr. King's workshop meets every day. Mass. Mr. Austin spoke, Willemburne spoke, Barack Obama spoke,

Charlie Hayes spoke from that platform, Mandela spoke, Theresa South Africa, for that platform, with the Cuban brother of the president, from that platform, we've helped to change the world. His work in Chicago continues how the King's workshop is functioning. His staff is in the meeting right now. It's called Rainbow Push, but it's his staff.

Last question. just lost Wattie Walker. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final Rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would.

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starting March 19th on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. As I say, Clarence Jones, in, out of the hospital, you look at Reverend Joseph Lowry, you look at, I mean, you look at these warriors, getting up in age, but are you optimistic when you look at these young warriors?

I am. They're fearless. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them, of course, in that lineage of struggles, Reverend Al Sharpton, he's in that lineage of struggle. But what Al and I have basically done by continuing the running the circuit, there's now doors open that were not open 50 years ago. The other king used to go to the L.A. to the big civil rights rally on Oakland, on Chicago, the beach of the big civil rights rally. Now you've got kids 30 years old becoming city council people and state reps. and congress people and mayors and controllers

and handling pension funds and investors. So many more duels open. We might have all either as visible as the one they had one or two running the circuit, but that's a far bigger crowd of witnesses now. It's fighting back. And then there and then, Carly and the education of what they want to be and become. We didn't have a John Rogers doing 401K

50 years ago. We didn't have Jim Reynolds in. and Chris Williams on Wall Street 50 years ago. We would have 400 like dealerships, Cardinalship 50 years ago. We only had Al Johnson in 1967 50 years ago. So I see a generation that we know, that they have another role to play, but they're playing their role.

And in Chicago right now, you see the dynamic. They produced Harold Washington. The same Chicago that laid that groundwork. We lose three senators, Camus LeBron, Barack and the Burris, produced five congressmen.

It's produced one president's candidate and one who succeeded as president. So the fertile soil that he cultivated in Chicago. It's still bearing fruit. He's still winning every day. And with that winning, and with

this progress we've been, been on. Do you believe it was a mistake for so many African-Americans to put so much faith in gaining political power and not really studied where he was when he kept trying to say, even that last speech, economic power. That, that, everything for me, when I look at 63 to 68, constant real economics, economics, economics. The reason we see, we live in the belief, to look at the economy. Here's what I sell that. The reason why it was a certain break-through after 65,

once we became mayor of Detroit, we could then begin to give out contracts, which is the business we didn't have. As Harold became mayor, he began to redistribute pension funds and created a whole class of, and Harold Washington and Cumae-on set the pace by mayors should in fact use that base jobs you never had before, economics.

Countries never had before, economics. Lawyers that you never had before, economics. So it's a political economy, so that there's some relationship between, and I think we should appreciate that both matter. Both matter, and we have to have both, and it's not either or. It's and. It's both and, because I'm rather convinced, Even there, you cannot have a small, you cannot, you must see the nation through a door not to a keyhole.

You can have a small circle. What's cutting off urban money? When the big banks in Washington are in New York, red line where they invest, the insurance companies are red line where they insure we can't grow up. Then you develop what I call the invisible hand of racism. That's why we're going to have mayors at the Wall Street Summit. in New York because our citizens are being cut off. You become the treasury without a treasury, unless you leverage those insurance companies

who want to do business cities, look at the E.O.1 reports. Those banks that want to do one of the cities, look at the EO1 reports. And look at that primary and secondary procurement list. What the what we're doing right now? Me else can do. You should not do business with City Hall and unless you see the EO on report where they land, what their records are. The enemy, I really can do that. They just will. All right, folks, that is it for us.

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