#RolandMartinUnfiltered - COVID-19 pandemic; Biden extends lead, Sanders won't quit; Megachurch pastor pleads guilty to fraud

Episode Date: March 19, 2020

3.11.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: WHO declares the Coronavirus a pandemic; Biden extends lead over Bernie; Sanders won't drop out of 2020 prez race; Houston Megachurch pastor Kirbyjohn Caldwell pleads guilty of fraud; Harvey Weinstein sentenced to 23 years in prison; Chicago Alderman blows up because Blacks are not included in a multi-million dollar building project; Bankrupt Ebony Magazine settles defamation suit; Kid who roasted cops forced to apologize. #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Hey folks, today is Wednesday. Ooh, it's been a brutal day. Coming up on Roller Martin Unfiltered, the World Health Organization declares an international pandemic due to the coronavirus. NCAA March Madness, we play with no games with fans. San Francisco and Seattle ban all outdoor events. The Golden State Warriors will now be playing in front of no fans with fans. San Francisco and Seattle ban all outdoor events. The Golden State Warriors will now be playing

in front of no fans as well. A sister test positive for coronavirus at the Black Enterprise Women of Power Summit will give you all of the details breaking down the impact of the coronavirus. Also today, Senator Bernie Sanders goes before the cameras to state what his plans are when it comes to Democratic race.

He's not getting out, but he realizes, yeah, he's got a problem. Also, Ebony sells a half-a-million-dollar settlement with the family of an FBI detective. They wrote a piece where they said that his sons were involved in the death of a young black man in Georgia. Well, they used a fictitious character. What the hell were they thinking?

So we'll tell you all about that as well. Yo, it's a jam-packed show, folks. And also, a Houston pastor, Reverend Kerber John Caldwell, hugely known all across the country, pleads guilty to an investment scam. I'll give you all those details. It's time to bring the funk and roll with my unfiltered. Let's go.

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And talk about how things have changed dramatically since February 25th when the Trump administration came out and said look we pretty much got the airtight this thing under control Donald Trump said we got this thing down to zero well that's the case why we have more and more and more cases being confirmed every single day all right folks if you look at here, here's the problem. We are extremely, we are so far behind in the testing. So look at this. As of right now, as of March 8th, in the United States, we've tested 1,707 people. Based upon our population of 329 million, that's five tests per one million. Look at South Korea. They've been far more aggressive in this.

They've tested 189,000 people. That is nearly 3,700 per one million. They have a total of 51.3 million. This, folks, shows you what happens when you have idiots who are running the whole process. States all across the country have been saying that, look, we need some sort of leadership from the United States. Well, Dr. Fauci, who testified today before Congress,

yo, he, look, he said this thing is going to get worse before it gets better. Listen to this. Based upon the current trajectory, how many people do you think will get this new trajectory, how many people do you think will get this new virus and how many people do you think will die? You cannot predict. I know you can't predict, but there must be, you know, we have a graph, we have the beginning of a graph, we know this is going to go up, we have the experience of China, we have the experience of Italy. Can you

give us some projections? It is going to be totally dependent upon how we respond to it. So I can't give you a number. If we now sit back complacently... I'm not asking to be complacent. I'm asking for a realistic... I mean that's what the public is looking for. I can't give you a realistic number until we put into the factor of how we respond. If we are complacent and don't do really aggressive containment and mitigation, the number could go way up and be involved in many, many millions. If we taught to contain, we could flatten it. So there's no number answer to your question until we act upon it. Okay. Based upon the current trajectory, how many people?

All right, folks, that is Dr. Anthony Fauci. He is the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, one of the best and brightest in this country. Unfortunately, you do not have the best and brightest who are actually running this whole process when it comes to the White House. They've been given so many conflicting information, especially the problem is coming from Donald Trump himself. In fact, he was just tweeting today complaining about everyone else and what they are doing as opposed to focus on focus on trying to keep America's calm, America's calm. In fact, here was a tweet that was sent out that I thought was quite interesting right here.

Go right here, folks. Jim Sciuto, this is what he put it out. Trump last week, coronavirus cases going very substantially down. Fauci today, the bottom line, it's going to get worse. Trump will have a vaccine in months. Fauci, vaccine in the year to year and a half. Trump, the death rate is going to be way under 1%. Fauci, death rate 1%, 10 times more lethal than the flu.

Y'all, that's what's going on here. Also, Muriel Bowers, the mayor of Washington, D.C., has declared a state of emergency in the nation's capital as well as a result of this. You've also had Jay Inslee. Of course, Jay Inslee, he is the governor of the state of Washington. He stood before the cameras and declared that they are barring any events taking place out with 250 or more people in three separate counties. He has been, of course, been one of the folks who has been extremely vigorous in combating this whole issue. The problem, though,

is you've had over here, well, Donald Trump constantly fighting with him, calling him out, calling him utterly ridiculous as well. And so that's what's going on here. I told you in San Francisco and Seattle, they've banned large gatherings. As a result, the Golden State Warriors,

they are not going to be playing their NBA games in front of fans. Also, the NAB, one of the largest media shows attracting thousands every single year, they postponed their conference in Las Vegas. NCAA made their decision that no fans will be present during March Madness. All games will be played, but there'll be no fans will be present during March Madness.

All games will be played, but there'll be no fans present as well. This shows you exactly how folks are worried to death with what's going on. You also have, of course, in New York State, where the National Guard has established this perimeter around New Rochelle as well. It just goes on and on and on. Let's go to our panel.

A. Scott Bolden is the former chair of National Bar Association Political Action Committee. Lauren Victoria Burke, writer with NNPA, and Derek Holly, president, Reaching America podcast political analyst. Folks, again, what we are facing here is, I mean, I can't, I can't, I reiterate this again. Yesterday, I played the video of Larry Cutlow, the president's chief economic advisor, going on CNBC on February 25th saying, this is quote to airtight contained.

That's literally what he said, Derek. The crazy thing is, is you had Trump going to the CDC, interrupting the experts. If anybody wants a test, they get a test.. If anybody wants a test, they get a test. Anybody. They want a test, they get a test. That's a lot. And so the problem here is this is, and this is the thing that jumps out. For all these MAGA folks who run their mouths, this is where you want government.

This is where government matters. And you have somebody who came in and just gutted government in many ways, lots of jobs that are unfulfilled, and now we're seeing what happens when you don't have a proper response to

a growing crisis. Well, you know, power. I said Derek. It's a growing crisis, yeah, you know, power. I said Derek. It's a growing crisis, yeah. And yeah, Trump puts his foot in his mouth a lot with this whole, from the beginning on this particular issue. But I think it comes down to government, as you stated, but it's going to be local

government that needs to get involved in this. And I think that's what the case is. They had a governor on, excuse me, a mayor of a town in New Jersey who had one of the first cases in New Jersey. A 67-year-old woman passed away. But they feel like right now that they've gotten a handle on the whole entire situation. And he's pointed to the fact that most of the people,

they're going to have to, the result is that we're going to have to deal with local government. You also talked about... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Finish your point, finish your point. The last thing I'll just add before you dump it. Yeah, they can't get the test. That's a problem. Wait, wait, wait, finish your point. The other thing, the point add before you dump it. Yeah, they can't get the test. That's a problem

The point I was gonna make is what Media is not talking about is a number of people who have recovered From this coronavirus and I think that's a huge. I think that's something huge. It needs to be put out there Okay, he talked about the number of people in his community He talked about the number one person who died but he don't talk about the thousands of people who have recovered Okay, but he is but okay, the thousands of people who have recovered. Okay, but here's the issue here, and this is where you have to understand. I get this whole idea of it's local government,

but the federal government was the one that rejected the World Health Organization offer help when it came to the testing. Now, we develop our own. You look at what's happening in Australia. They literally have drive-through testing. Hasn't even happened here.

They announced, oh, we're going to have a million tests by the end of the week. Then we get to Friday, we're not going to have those. And so, that's the problem here. Local and state governments, again, I used to say Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington state. Here he was trying to lead. You've got Trump slamming him and trashing him because he was critical. I'm sorry. In a health crisis,

you do not need the president of the United States trashing governors who are dealing with people who are getting sick or who may very well die. Yeah. This is the non-reality, though. And this is where his lies and promotions, if you will, of everything's fine and positive, the rubber meets the road when you're talking about a health crisis,

a world pandemic health crisis that's been labeled by the World Health Organization. On these local governments, though, they're relying on the world health organization on these local governments though they're relying on the federal government to have these tests i know two people who who have the corona have gone to the hospital and their doctors to be tested and the kits aren't available here in the dmv here in the dmv and so the president i said i knew them i didn't say i was hanging out with them but the president and there's I knew them. I didn't say it. I was hanging out with them. But the president and his... Well, there's some hospitals that don't even want to test.

Exactly. It's like, look, we don't want to know what you got because the moment they test positive, it changes their whole protocol. Exactly. Okay, that's kind of scary that a hospital's kind of like, hey, hey, I need you to go ahead and home. We ain't testing you.

Oh, but they have to quarantine them. And then that's a huge expense. And insurance care. Watch and see what the indirect or the secondary cost is. So, for example, in Washington, it is gala season. There must be 10 or 12 galas in the next three to six months. In Washington? Around the country. Okay, around the country, right?

First of all, game this whole thing out. Nonprofits and galas. Church services. I'm already getting text messages from people who are saying that they are going to church online.

So here's the whole... So all of a sudden, when you start talking about, Lauren, what's really... what's happening right now, stock market, again, down huge today as well.

Okay? Now it's lost more than 5,000 points in the past couple of weeks. Now it's settin', now it's going on and on and on. I mean, look, Bob, look, we're sitting here, we share an office with the folks at 50Can, the Education Reform Group.

Their staff work at home for the rest of the month because most of the people take the subway. And so, I don't think people really understand. And airlines have said that this is already, this is twice as worse than what they dealt with after 9-11. Yeah. Well, obviously, I mean, 9-11, though, had that element at least in the coming week there

of sort of knowing that it was, quote, over only because we stopped getting a tax break for the first initial thing. This, of course, has the element of a complete sort of aura of unpredictability. You have absolutely no idea what's going to happen. There's no bottom. And there's no protocol from this government.

There's no plan. Obviously, the president's going to get on TV tonight at 9 o'clock and probably confuse everybody further. Because, as you know, as we sit here, Nancy Pelosi and him are not even on speaking terms. She has already said that the government has to continue working. They are out of session, at least the House is next week. So anything, obviously, that involves people gathering

in a large sense is going to be canceled or disrupted, and that, of course, is going to have a rippling economic impact, to say the least. I actually do think that because power does love a vacuum, these state and local governments are going to have to step in. They really have absolutely no other choice. No choice.

Of course, the problem is they don't have the power to do what the federal government can do with regard to resource, with regard to anything. So we're learning a lot more watching MSNBC and CNN and the doctors that are on there than we are from the president of the United States. And now, hold on a second, now we're getting that Trump is going to be speaking

in a primetime address on coronavirus again. It shows you how idiotic this man is where he dismissed this. He was like, hey, this thing is going to go away. All this little stuff along those lines. Every single day.

He's a real estate agent. And he's a dumb real estate agent, right? He's a real estate agent that got $5 million from his dad to have his start because he's not self-made like Michael Bloomberg. So this is a guy who apparently knows nothing about just the basics of strategy and planning in a crisis, right?

I mean, you don't really have to be an expert in everything. You don't have to be Dr. Fauci. But you've got to listen to the experts and give them the access to- I'm sorry, this is the same person who had the CDC who said, the doctors told me that I know so much about this, that maybe I should have gone into this instead of running for president.

Like, you know, my uncle was a professor at MIT. And so smartness runs in our family. This idiot actually said that. He's got exactly the wrong personality to fix any sort of problem, but particularly something like this that requires him to give deference to others who have expertise.

And here's the deal. Here's the deal. Okay, even though he absolutely screwed up how they handled the whole HIV needle issue in Indiana, actually, Derek, the person who, I mean, in this crisis, the person who is actually looking like a leader is supposed to lead is Vice President Mike Pence in terms of having twice daily briefings, pulling folks together.

And then again. And getting out of the way. And you've got this toddler over there who's kind of like, hey, hey, hey, can I get on the microphone? It's sort of like bringing your child to a news conference. No, I'm telling you, dealing with Trump is the equivalent of, I guess, when Stephen Curry had Riley, his daughter, and she would be grabbing the microphone and she'll be like pointing to the press. That's Trump. It's like dealing

with a grown ass child. Can I say something about local governments though? Obviously Trump, he's out of bounds on a lot of this stuff right now. He's out of control and he's lost with this. But at the same time, as you pointed out,

I'm glad that Pence is here to navigate this whole thing. And most of the time, as the president, you're supposed to look to your people and shut up. Unfortunately, he does not. Or get out of the way. And the problem here, Scott, the reason why this is such a problem is because what we're seeing with financial industry,

what we're seeing with, I mean, all these different sectors, what is the one thing he jumps to? Oh, we need a payroll tax. But the payroll tax only through the election. Right. See, again, what he's not doing is sitting the hell down and saying, okay, team, what we're about to endure is an economic

calamity. And this is our strategy. And we need to... Let's come up with a strategy. What is our short term, our mid-term, our long term? Look, I'm on the board of the National Association of Black Journalists. We've got regional conventions

coming up in the next two months. I'm Vice President of Digital. We've got a national convention coming up in the next two months. I'm vice president of digital. We've got a national convention coming up in July 8th through 12th, which is the biggest economic... That convention, what we make from that convention funds our entire organization. For the year. So, as a vice president, what do I do?

Call our executive director. What's your plan? What are we doing? We'll hear our conference calls when it comes to whether or not we're going to cancel our regional conventions, whether we're going to continue them. If we do, are we offering refunds? I mean, we can go down the line into all the things that we're doing. We're not sitting here jumping,

okay, cancel the convention. No, because we want to see what happens in March and April and May before we determine what we do in July. It's a methodical approach. What it's not is this, hey, no. Trump literally put a tweet out.

Hey, good time to buy some stocks. I mean, he literally put that out there and was like, dude, do you see what's going on? You're lucky. We'll see tonight. I was thinking that tonight. Whether he makes it worse is the question. Frankly, I think the governors and the

state and local officials, the mayors, etc., should really ignore him. The problem is they can't completely ignore him because the federal funding and the federal money is real. So hopefully the members of Congress... They asked Congress for $8.3 billion on this whole deal. And hopefully the Republicans on the Senate side will figure out how to get him

out of the way so he can just sign whatever he needs to sign. And the $8.3 billion will specifically go to the states. Right. I mean, this is where, going back to January, this is where in moments of crisis, where again, all of a sudden it's, okay, we got to move billions now. Where can we take it from? Right. Where can we get it from?

What can we do without having to, even before we even go to Congress, because you've got to put together the right bill. Because here's the other piece, Scott. You've got to know what to ask Congress for. You've got to know whether, okay, are we asking Congress for $4 billion or are we going to ask for $8.3 billion and then all of a sudden, damn, we've got to go back a week later and ask for $10 billion.

I mean, it is understanding this process here and the problem is, so you're dealing with the... And you're dealing with, okay, all the crazy conservatives who were at CPAC, who was running around going, this not real, this not real. And guess where one of the first cases in Washington, D.C. came from? CPAC.

But these local and state governments have to do something to manage their businesses in their region. So, for example, these nonprofits, the National... NABJ is in the summertime, but some of these conferences and galas are happening right now. The hotels, up until today in D.C.,

were trying to enforce those agreements. They were accepting money. They got money, but they... And they were enforcing these agreements. And nonprofits accepting money. They got money, but, but, but they, and they were forced enforcing these agreements and nonprofits and several of my clients were arguing on the phone with me about what can we do about this? They're forcing us to put a thousand people in a, in a dining room for a gala when we know that's unhealthy. Wow. Hold on one second. Hold on one second. Breaking the Senate GOP just blocked an emergency paid

sick leave bill intended to deal with the fallout of a global pandemic. Well, that's actually not that bill. If that's the bill, I think it is. Is that DeLauro? I'll pull up in a second. Keep going. Keep going. That bill is not the actual sort of AA for the emergency. Right, right, right. But this bill put forth

by Democrats would guarantee 14 days of paid leave for workers affected by the coronavirus. Because here's the problem right now. Here's the problem right now. Right. Trump and his folks are only thinking about the corporation, how it impacts them. Right, right, right.

The stock market. Here's the problem with what you're talking about. Okay? We just saw this with South by Southwest. Okay? They camped South by Southwest. Monday, they laid off a third of their full-time staff. Exactly, that's the second part of what I was gonna say.

You mentioned the hotels. And again, I'm not taking up the hotel side, but here's the problem here. Hotels, you know who understands the hotel business, a lot of those businesses in Austin, their year was predicated on South by Southwest. Right. That gets canceled.

Now it's like, oh, my God. So what then happens? Then all of a sudden, you might then have hotel layoffs, restaurant layoffs. Stomino. All of a sudden. So now what's now happening also, again, before I came on, two CBS News employees

also now have coronavirus. Now before i came on two cbs news employees right uh also now have coronavirus now they're moving on it i talked to one woman who's a contributor for another network she said because another employee at that network memtistic positive they said hey why don't you do your hit by skype what people don't understand is they they gotta look beyond just okay well you know this event i can so oh march madness, March Madness, no fans. Okay, understand what March Madness, no fans means. No jobs. Not just any of the people who work inside of the stadium.

We're talking about all of the companies that were sending employees who had activations during March Madness. Sure. At the stadiums, things outside. Concerts. So now we're talking about folks who, I was talking to someone yesterday, this guy's a corporate, he's a planner. He's already had $100,000 in contracts

that have been canceled. His business is conventions and planning, stuff along those lines. This thing, and this is why the government response is so important. This is why the testing was so important. And Trump's whole deal, I don't want to get them off the cruise ship

because I don't really want the numbers to go up. No, you need to have a complete handle on what's going on here and how you separate, to your point, those who have gotten well and then those who sick. Italy, in 24

hours, 200 died in the last 24 hours. That's how real this thing is. And you can't have folks who are joking around. But look at the irony that Trump's misleading statements or just lies and only being concerned about the stock market is actually contributing to the demise of the economy, which is one of his strongest political points, by him ignoring the reality of corona, by him saying that it's going away, that it's contained, there are lots of kits and so forth and so on. But, Lauren, this is where... He had a previous idiot habit

of always saying something stupid right before a market opened, usually about China trade, and I can never figure out why. To keep the stock market rolling. Right, no, no, no, but the point is, this is where, again, you cannot be a one-trick pony. He's not even a one-trick pony.

Right, I mean, this is one of those things where leaders have to step back and go, okay, this is not just about the stock market right this is literally about the entire economic infrastructure i mean there is going to be no choice for your local and state and your your state particularly state governments frankly what is going to happen is that his decisions will be overtaken on the local level because they have no choice without any leadership with nobody leading from the top, you are going to have to make decisions that is...

Like, you saw what Mayor Bowser just did. She's not waiting for the federal government to do anything. But there's only one... The hospitality business or give some of these nonprofits cover for when they're trying to renegotiate these contracts. Right, the problem is when the money, when you need that money that you're losing on the business... There you go. That's the problem is when the money, when you need that money that you're losing on the business, which... There you go.

That's the problem. So, so, so, so, when Trump's farmers were losing money because of his tariff screw-up, $30 billion. Boom, here's $30 billion. And so, not only that, all the badgering he did at the Federal Reserve,

pissing them off, to force him to lower the interest rates because he wanted the economy to keep humming. Here's the problem. This is actually when your economic stimulus is even more so important. You shot your wad because your dumb ass pushed through this tax hike, this tax cut that cost $3 billion, $3 trillion, $3 trillion. And then the government already has had fewer, smaller revenue coming in.

And so now you now make yourself even, it made it even more difficult to make a financial move. Which is why he keeps trying to cut food stamps to pay for that tax cut, right? So now you don't have that revenue coming in for that tax cut that you gave away to the top 1%. I just... So there's that.

I just... I just want people... He's a piece of work. And again, here's the deal, though. Here's the deal, though. All the people who are watching, I want you to be clear. I am not...

This is not about creating panic. But you do have to pay attention to what is very basic. As you begin to see what is happening in other countries, the countries that moved quickly are the countries that are ahead of this game.

People may say, oh, yeah, no, no, no, no. This thing percolated in January. We pretty much screwed off a month. And when you're dealing with a pandemic, a month is a problem. When you overrule your CDC and the State Department says,

put infected people on an airplane with people who are not infected and don't tell anybody. I know. You overrule the health people. Right. It's a problem. And so we're actually playing catch up right now

because here's the other thing, Derek. The federal government is the only entity that has the power in an emergency to say, pharmaceuticals, come in. Mask makers, respiratory, come in. Mask makers, respiratory, come in. We can exert a level. They're the only people who have that.

Well, states, depending upon your state, how much power your governor has, but nobody has a level of power the federal government has. And we're playing catch up right now. And I've been talking to people who are local and state state officials and they said we have been put behind the eight ball because of this sort of just who's on first thing in the federal government. I agree with you. There's a lot of confusion going on. I mean, the next the messages are mixed coming from the White House and the president needs to chill, be quiet. But where I don't

agree is that where somebody else is, another country is ahead of us on this right here. And I just, I look at that because I look at it as the number of deaths in this country compared to other countries. How can you say that they're ahead of us when we have less

deaths? Because they've tested more people. Yes. We don't know what we don't know. They've tested more people. But more people have died in other countries than here, so how the hell are they ahead of us? Wait a minute. Follow here. How the hell are they ahead of us?

I will show you. I will show you. And I will use... I don't think there's any other metric other than death. No, no, Derek. It's also when did it start? Perfect example. If you're... If I'm alive, I'm still here. No, Derek, Derek. It's also, when did it start? Perfect example. If you're...

If I'm alive, I'm still here. No, no, Derek, follow me. Derek, so if on your... So let's say you're America. That's true. Let's say you're America. That's a hell of a metric. No, no, Derek, wait a minute.

You're America. Scott, Scott's Europe, okay? I don't want to be Europe. Deal with it, okay? So Scott's over here is China, Europe, and all that sort of stuff. It's called making its way. Now, follow me here. So, if it's been there for like a month, month and a half,

and it's been building and numbers have been growing, it's making its way. I mean, it's building. Then, also, as it makes its way, you're obviously going to have fewer numbers because it hasn't spread. Now, let me stop right there. Let me go back to February 25th.

Trump says, go back to that date. What were we told? We got, you know, maybe about, you know, about 15 cases. That's 15. Where are we now? Pull the chart up. Where are we now?

We don't know because we ain't got any news. No, no, no. We do know. Stop right there. Right there. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Wait a minute. So we've gone from, that's tested. That's tested. Correct. We had less than 100 that was tested three weeks ago. Now, here's the deal. You just said it. We haven't even tested enough people.

I agree with you. We haven't tested enough. But ain't nobody dead. Wait a minute. Is that the metric that we're talking about right now? Here's the deal. The way you deal with this is you don't wait for people to drop dead. You got to actually...

What I believe, this thing was here in the United States long. Oh, here comes the conspiracy. I'm sorry. Another conspiracy. It's conspiracy. It's conspiracy. They saw what? Therapy. You and I talked earlier.

And we both had, I had, was diagnosed as influenza B. OK. OK. You don't have corona. Yeah, you'd be dead if you had corona. Shorty, it's the same symptom. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on.

Wait, wait, hold up. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh my god. Rick, pull it, pull it up. Hold up. Pull it up. Pull it up. Hold up. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Oh, my God. Rick, pull it up. Pull it up. Pull it up. Pull it up. You were diagnosed with what? Influenza B. What were you prescribed? Theraflu. Thamaflu.

Thamaflu. Thamaflu, yep. Did it go away? It did. Okay. Do you know there's no vaccine for this? Yes, I'm aware of that. Okay. So the difference here is they can't... We don't know that, right. Yes, I'm aware of that. Okay, so the difference here is... We don't know that, right? Oh, my God, we do.

Oh, you know the difference between Corona and influenza B. We do know this. They do know the difference. First of all, one of the things the doctors... One of the things they said was... They said... One of the easiest tests, they said,

hold your breath for 10 seconds. And if you do not cough in those 10 seconds, then you more than likely aren't dealing with this because this is dealing with lungs. That's right. Okay, a very easy,

just a simple thing they ask people to do. All right? If you ask to hold your breath for 10 seconds and you start coughing after four or five, I'm just saying, you can't say, it's allergies. If you ask to hold your breath for 10 seconds and you start coughing after four or five,

I'm just saying you can't say, hmm, it's allergies. I'm just saying it's one of those things. Everybody hold their breath. Let's see what happens. If somebody starts coughing in them 10 seconds, I'm getting up. All I'm saying this year is I want people watching. We do not want people to freak out. We don't want people to panic. Y'all,

there was some video I saw yesterday about these ignorant-ass parents. One dude was spraying his son down with disinfectant. No, literally, dog. And then... No, bro. And then you had this one sister

who had her child straight ass wrapped in garbage bags. With a hat? Bro. With a skull cap. And the crazy thing is it was like holes

in the area. Matter of fact, Henry, go play it Henry Sprayed them with disinfectant spray as they took them out one day. Wiped my shoes and backpacked down when I got them out of the school. Sure did get them gloves. Sure did. Parents are doing this after they found out an employee who works at Trouble Middle and Elementary came in contact with a person who tested positive for the coronavirus in Memphis. Some took more time than others.

Even sprayed them with disinfectant spray. I wiped my shoes and backpack down when I got them out of the school. Sure did. Got them gloves. Sure did. Parents are doing this after they found out an employee who works at Treble Middle and Elementary came in contact with a person who tested positive for the coronavirus in Memphis. Some took more time to measure.

Two bags of bags. My shoes became time to. Two garbage bags. My shoes are kind of new. Two sacks. Two sacks. Leaders of the show, that employee is.. Y'all, OK. OK, so listen. I need everybody who's at home listening today.

I need people to, first of all, calm the hell down. All right, all right. I mean, really, wrapping your child in garbage bags is not gonna stop coronavirus. It's not, okay? They've already told us, first and foremost, you be washing your hands continuously. Continuously, okay?

It means getting you, getting you, Perel or whatever, needs to be 60% or more alcohol. Okay, keep it on you at all times as well. There are basic things that you can do. Okay, stop shaking hands. In fact, I was walking down the street, I saw Fraternity Brother. Hey, Frat, no, mm-mm, mm-mm, no, uh-uh, no.

The Sprout wouldn't shake my hand. That would be... The Frat, I know we used to. I know we used to. Oh, you can't shake the mighty alpha's hand? No. Oh, Corona's coming between you and your frat brother. Yep. Something coming between you and your frat brother.

Yep. Well, I'm going to beat your damn Corona. And won't be no alpha grip. And let me tell you something. If these Kappas, if these Kappas, y'all can shake hands and make a job. We don't pass corona. We don't pass corona. And both of y'all fall the hell out.

That ain't what we do. Guess what? We'll be the last one standing. Still smarter than them. So all I'm saying is I just need people to do those things. But what people also have to understand is that what is going on right now, y'all, is that there is going to be a serious economic fallout. And you have to understand,

initially in New York City, Chinese restaurants lost significant business. People were not showing up. This thing is going to go beyond Chinese restaurants because the problem is where people are gathered. And that's going to be an issue. And so I just want people, brace for that, protect themselves, but again, be smart, but realize,

and I'm telling y'all right now, hey, if you ain't got to buy it right now, don't buy it. Because I'm telling you, you better be watching your money because when this thing all of a sudden shifts and where we're going, if you start seeing far more cancellations, it's going to hit different industries and it's just going to keep spreading, spreading, spreading

until we are able to deal with this coronavirus. Watch for the layoffs. Yeah. Watch for the layoffs. That's what I'm saying. That's a part of that whole deal. So I just want us to, like, and look,... That's what I'm saying. That's a part of that whole deal. So, I just want us to... Like, and look, last point here.

Last point here. Stop this bullshit saying black people can't catch it. Okay? That's not true. Okay, I need y'all to stop that. That's nonsense. I need y'all to stop that. That is going around. I need y'all to stop that, please.

I heard you say that on one of your tweets. You a damn liar. You ain't never heard me say that. You ain't never heard me say something stupid like that about this whole deal. Stop sitting here. Also saying people in Africa have not gotten it. I'm looking now. Ivory Coast has got their first confirmation.

Nigeria has five cases. Of coronavirus. Well, only five is still five. All right. Go to my phone here, folks. This year, MGM dropped this press release today where MGM informed guests and employees at the Southern Nevada Health District

has confirmed a case of the 2019 coronavirus involving a guest at the Mirage. We were informed that an individual from New York who was a guest at the Mirage. We were informed that an individual from New York who was a guest at the Mirage and an attendee of the Women of Power Summit from March 5th through 8th, that's the Black Enterprise Summit, has tested positive for coronavirus.

Upon learning of the individual's symptoms, Mirage staff worked in coordination with the state health district to implement MGM Resort's health and safety protocol. Professional cleaners with expertise in this area are deep cleaning and sanitizing the individual's room, as outlined in the company's health and safety procedures, and in accordance with the CDC guidelines for eliminating the presence of the virus. Now, folks, I told you what happened at CPAC.

One individual who was in the proximity of a number of high-ranking people shaking hands tested positive for coronavirus. There was a priest here in Washington, D.C., shook the hands of 500 parishioners who tested positive. Now that church is on lockdown. And so you see what happens here. And so, y'all, do not shake hands. Do not shake hands, please. All right.

If you're around somebody and they're sitting here coughing, guess what? You can sit here and say, well, I'm coughing in my, no, the droplets hit the floor. It still circulates. It can hit on surfaces as well. So simply take all the precautions. All right, y'all got to go to break. We come back. We're going to talk a little politics. Senator Bernie Sanders goes before the cameras to lay out what he is going to do next. And I got a couple of things to say to this sorry-ass New York State Senator, this Latina, who had the audacity last night

to say she didn't care about any candidate who won in a Democratic deep red state. Yeah. What she really saying is she got a problem that black folk didn't support Bernie Sanders. I'm gonna let y'all know who she is when we come back.

Let you know what I had to say about her last night. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered back in a moment. You wanna check out Roland Martin Unfiltered? YouTube.com forward slash Roland S. Martin. And subscribe to our YouTube channel. There's only one daily digital show out here that keeps it black and keep it real.

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you get a discount. This is why you should join the fan club. All right, y'all. March 10th primary puts Vice President Joe Biden closer to the Democratic nomination. On the other hand, Senator Bernie Sanders, y'all, lost Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, and Idaho, and Washington State, a state where, first of all, he won North Dakota, but Idaho, and Washington State, a state where,

first of all, he won North Dakota, but a state, Washington State, where he beat Clinton by 40 points. By 40 points in 2016, he's only up 0.2% against Biden with 67.5% of the vote in. Well, he did not speak last night, but today he held a news conference

where many assumed he would buy out on what the hell they were thinking because that was not going to happen. Sanders made it clear, I'm still in this thing. Let me begin by reiterating what I have said from day one of this campaign, and that is that Donald Trump is the most dangerous president

in the modern history of our country, and he must be defeated. Tragically, we have a president today who is a pathological liar and who is running a corrupt administration. He clearly does not understand the Constitution of the United States and thinks that he is a president who is above the law. In my view, he is a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, a xenophobe, and a religious bigot.

And he must be defeated, and I will do everything in my power to make that happen. Last night obviously was not a good night for our campaign from a delegate point of view. We lost in the largest state up for grabs yesterday, the state of Michigan. We lost in Mississippi, Missouri, and Idaho. On the other hand, we won in North Dakota, and we lead the vote count in the state of Washington, the second largest state contested yesterday, with 67% of the votes having been counted. We are a few thousand votes on top. What became even more apparent yesterday is that while we are currently losing the delegate count, approximately 800 delegates for Joe Biden and 660 for us, we are strongly winning in two enormously important areas which will determine the future of our country.

Poll after poll, including exit polls, show that a strong majority of the American people support our progressive agenda. The American people are deeply concerned about the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality in this country. And the American people want the wealthy and large profitable corporations to start paying their fair share of taxes. Overwhelming support for that. The American people understand that the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is a starvation wage. They want to raise the minimum wage in this country to a living wage of at least $15 an hour. And the American people understand

that if our kids are going to make it into the middle class of this country, we must make public colleges and universities and trade schools tuition-free. The American people understand that we cannot continue a cruel and dysfunctional health care system, and it is amazing to me to see that even in conservative states like Mississippi, there is an overwhelming understanding that we are now spending twice as much per capita on health care as do the people of any other country, while 87 million of us remain uninsured or underinsured. And this crisis, this absurd health care system system is becoming more and more obvious to the American people as we face the challenge of the coronavirus pandemic that we are currently experiencing. Imagine facing a pandemic and having 87 million people who are having a difficult time going to a doctor when they need.

All right, folks, let's talk about this here, okay? So, Lawrence, Sanders says, look, if you look at the polls where people are on these issues, but they're not voting for him. And so you break this thing. And again, what you have is... And somebody has to say it, and I ain't scared of none of y'all, okay? But the Bernie supporters,

the folks who are losing their mind right now on YouTube, who are on Twitter, and who, oh, Biden's a sellout, he ain't done this, he ain't done that. This is very simple. If you running against somebody, it's my ideas against your ideas.

Whoever gets the most vote wins. Yeah. Well... And then you have these progressives who are saying... I'll play in a second. Crystal Ball, one of them. I'll play what she had to say. And I said this. Maybe the progressives need to understand

that there are actually more people who are not progressive than them. Exactly. Yeah, there's a ceiling. Sanders clearly has a ceiling. He hit that ceiling. He actually hit it with Hillary Clinton as well, who I thought was not as good a candidate as Joe Biden. Okay, and not as compelling a candidate as Joe Biden

because I think Biden is likely to attract more voters than she will for a lot of reasons, one, unfortunately, of which is she's female. But at any rate, one of the things I think the Sanders supporters have a little trouble figuring out is that, in fact, that ceiling is real. It shows itself every time we have voters competing. I mean, these candidates competing for votes. Now that we don't have as many candidates in the field, and it's effectively Bernie Sanders versus Joe Biden,

that's when you really, really see it, okay? So his numbers are not as good as they were against Hillary Clinton. We just saw that in Michigan last night. And he's not doing as well as he was, for whatever reason. And I think, frankly, and we've seen this in Kentucky and in Virginia and Alabama, people are laser-focused. People, meaning Team Blue, is laser-focused in

getting Donald Trump out of office. Okay? You probably could put almost any Democrat up there, but not any Democrat, because Sanders is not that Democrat. There is a, I think, a... He's not a Democrat at all. Well, yeah, whatever. A Democratic Socialist wouldn't be convenient to run for

President. The point is, if he did get the Democratic nomination, he effectively would be a Democrat because he would be the Democratic nominee. I mean, I get it. I get it. But he's not going to be the Democratic nominee. It's going to be Joe Biden and that's what's going to happen. So, I mean, the point is, he doesn't have enough votes. I get what their

arguments are. And actually, I think the Sanders people have a lot of good points. They're not viable arguments. They're talking. I don't know that they're not viable. Politics and elections is about one thing. Can you get one more vote than the next guy? Absolutely. Period.

Absolutely. You can't buy votes. Absolutely. You can't steal votes. At least arguably, you can't steal votes. They're doing a bigger thing. Their bigger thing is they want to talk about poverty and income inequality in a way that Biden won't talk about that. I agree.

I agree. But I agree. But at the end of the day, when those two names appear on the ballot, Trump, Biden, that's what this is going to be about. And so popularity contest, this idea that Biden can't win is nonsense. But the move was not big enough to win the nomination. But also here's the piece, though. And this is the thing that really bugs me. I mean, like, it... Did you open your eyes? No, you don't understand. It really bugs me.

These folks want a movement to move like a moment. Mm-hmm. When moments actually lead to movements. Movements take time. If I talked about the Black Freedom Movement, something called the Civil Rights Movement, what we're now dealing with is

December 1st, 1955. King's assassination, Fair Housing Act, nine days later, April 1968. That's 13 years. And that's not even the completion of the movement.

That's like the core of the movement is 13 years. Sanders runs for president in 2015. It's 2020. the movement is 13 years. Sanders runs for president in 2015. It's 2020. It's five years. Oh, my God!

Didn't work, oh, my God! We're not gonna vote! I'm gonna leave the top blank! You know... Well, the difference is they didn't have Donald Trump, who's a major factor in his movement. But it's five years. But the whole point I'm making is,

in order to build a movement, what you have to do is stop bitching and whining and stop, I'm going to take my ball home because I can get what I want, and realize, you know what? We got to keep building. We got to keep organizing. Reverend William Barber,

Moral Mondays. Moral Mondays started a decade ago. Let me, for all y'all Bernie people, for all y'all Bernie people who are watching right now, pull your damn notepad

out or your phone out and take some goddamn notes. Because see, this is what's pissing me off with them. Moral Monday started when 16 people got arrested in the state capitol in North Carolina. That thing built, built, built, built, built, oh, hundreds, and thousands, then multiple

thousands, all across the state. Republicans barred Reverend Barber for even coming to the state Capitol. He sues. They're fighting. They're suing. They're going after them. They're suing. They're fighting. They file a state lawsuit, federal lawsuit. All

that sort of stuff happened. Then they're sitting here voter suppression, gerrymandering. It's a North of stuff happened. Then it's sitting here, voter suppression, gerrymandering. It's a North Carolina Republican Party. It's just sitting here passing stuff, passing stuff, transferring the bathroom bill, voter suppression, all that sort of stuff. Still fighting, still fighting, still fighting.

Today, Roy Cooper, Democrat governor. Today, Democrats have a majority on the state Supreme Court, and they've invalidated most of those procedures. Today,

Democrats, because they've won the argument about racial gerrymandering, today, because of their fight, they actually got the political gerrymandering. Now you're going to see fair congressional districts. Now you're actually going to see

more potential folks elected who support the Moral of Money issues and those who are against. That was 11 damn years. If they took the attitude of the Bernie people, I'm just going to stop. I ain't going to vote.

I ain't going to vote. I'm just gonna stop. I ain't gonna vote. I ain't gonna vote. I'm not gonna vote. And that's what we're dealing with here. Movements take time to build. And if you believe in the issues, what you do is you say it for the day,

get your ass up, dust yourself off and say, we about to go back out there to organize and mobilize. That is what is driving me crazy about these whiny-ass people who, I don't know, I got some black dude, I'm going to put his ass on the show. I'm voting for Trump because Bernie didn't win. Ooh, no.

No, no. He ain't a real Bernie supporter. But here's the deal. I tweeted this. How in the hell can you say you're a Bernie supporter? And then go vote for Trump? How? How can you say you're a Bernie supporter? And Trump is the...

You just heard everything Bernie just said about Trump. Your dumb ass say, I'm going to go vote for Trump. Or I'm going to leave the top of the line blank because, you know what, they keep telling us we gotta vote for any Democrat, so I'm just not gonna vote at all. So, you don't mind four more years of this? Well, see, I think the reason that happened, though, in 2016

was they were under the stupid impression that Trump was reflecting some of Bernie's, with that sort of America first argument. And remember, Bernie was polling well against Trump, I think, for a reason. People wanted disruption. They wanted something different. But now we know, of course, for a fact that that was all nonsense.

But I think it was nonsense then, and it was easy to recognize, but now we definitely know it's nonsense. And so now everybody's completely abandoned that idea. Oh, no, I got Elijah James, Scott, right here. This ain't nothing but trying to shame black people into voting for Democrats. No, dumbass.

This is all about, I got evil over here. I got a man over here who is against everything Bernie Sanders stand for. I got a man over here who is rolling back civil rights protections in every federal agency in stands for. I got a man over here who is rolling back civil rights protections in every federal agency in the government. I got a man over here

who's appointed nearly 200 federal judges, nearly all of them white men, far right wing, many of them grossly unqualified, who if he wins another four years, likely will have appointed 500 federal judges that will be in control of a fellow judiciary for the next 50 years.

So every progressive idea that you like, if it did get passed by Congress, would get sued. And guess who would hear the lawsuit? The 500 federal judges Trump is likely going to get. But I'm trying to get somebody to vote Democrat.

No, I'm trying to get you not to vote for stupid. Well, a no vote in the election is a vote for Trump, but here's the deal. I've always thought that this election in 2020, what was really working, kind of undergirding

all of this, is the vote for Biden is really a vote for stability that we've had the we've had the Trump and the disruption and we wanted the voters wanted the disruption and we had four years of that and now I think the electorate whether you're Republican Democrat or independent those people that vote at a higher rate because I talk about the young let's not forget the young people who are for Bernie aren't voting in the numbers. They did four years ago that that the country wants Stabilization it wants some normalcy It wants to get back to American values versus Trump values and Trump values may be shared by that

40% that would vote for him no matter what. But America, black, white, yellow, or brown, wants to get back to what it's always been or what it's promised all of us to be. And under Trump, four years wears on you, and you start to believe, I don't care who you are, that, you know what, this ain't right, and we may have lower taxes for corporations than the rich folks, we may have a big deficit, even though we don't have a rehabilitation plan

or investing money to get the economy going again. That normalcy would sound good. Now, if we want a revolution, maybe we do our revolution later, but Bernie may not be around for that revolution in eight years, and he's trying to do it this time. But guess what, though? He's never going to get voters like me, though. Guess what?

And I'll make up most of the Democratic Party. Why is that? Guess what? AOC, I'd love to have free college tuition, even though all my daughters are grown. I'd love to have, what's his other free thing? Medicare for all. But in a choice between Trump and Bernie,

who would you vote for? As long as I had a choice, right? Between Trump and Bernie, who would you vote for? Well, I'd have to vote for Bernie. Bernie's not going to get the nomination. I'm just saying, though. No, no, no. First of all, question asked, question answered.

Derrick, here's the thing that, again... You're cutting me off. I had more points to make. First of all, you need to hurry the hell up. Derrick, here's the whole deal. Here's the deal here that, again, when you begin to analyze this deal, and I'm going to go ahead and play this here.

Henry, go ahead and go to my phone right here. So this is, this is, let me put it on pause. So y'all, this is Chris, this is Crystal Ball, co-host of the morning show on the Hill TV on the Young Turks with Yank Ugar, big, both of them, huge Bernie Sanders supporter. This is the kind of stupidity I'm talking about. Word message moving forward. But Chris, I got to ask, what's our alternative? I mean, are we are I don't think it's tenable for progressives to threaten to vote for Trump. I think that's nuts. I would never do that. I would never vote for Donald Trump either. But you can leave it blank. As of today, I'm an undecided voter because here's the thing, Jake. Donald Trump is awful. The next Republican will be awful. And if they always can say, look, you've got to vote for us no matter what,

you've got no other choice, then they're always going to treat us like this because you have no power in that situation if you're just going to show up and vote for them anyway. So I know people aren't going to want to hear that, but I think that is the reality of the situation that we face right now. Crystal, you brought up really fast. Derek, 2016, Eddie Glaude, who you see on MSNBC, made the exact same argument. We got to teach them a lesson, leave the top blank. I said, Eddie, you're crazy as hell. I disagreed with him then, and we were tweeting today.

I said, I disagree with your ass now. And he said, we're all in this thing together about getting Trump out, not giving him four more years. I said, well, hell, Eddie, his ass should have had the first four years. Right. And I'm like, you were part of that problem. And part of the problem... And the thing is

this here. Black people more than anybody else, more than anybody else, know you don't stop swinging. 1964, Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party goes to Atlantic City. They want to be seated.

LBJ's like, look, y'all ain't getting away in my convention, in my nomination. I got to win. Got to keep the South together. Dr. King is standing with him. Fan Lou Hamer puts that person on that table. She testifies. LBJ tells the head of the AFL-CIO,

you tell King you're going to take all of his labor money out of the movement if he don't back this compromise. Dr. King had no choice because he knew without the labor money movement, there wasn't no movement. He said, y'all take the deal. Bob Moses,

Fan Lou Hamer, all of them were hurt by it. Went back home after that angry. But they ain't stop. And that's the point I'm saying. What you don't do is get so pissed off and angry that you stop and then you run home and say,

I give up. No, you fight another day. Or you give us Trump. That's the problem with these privileged-ass millennials. That's just how they are. Uh-oh. Period. I said it. They all feel like they're privileged-ass millennials.

The Bernie bros are going to be on you in a minute. And that's the problem. That's the problem. Give me my ball, I'm going home. Because everything ain't my way. And so this girl said it right there. It said, Bernie's not on the ticket, I'm going to stay home. That's ridiculous.

If your goal is to defeat this president. It's illogical, too. It's illogical. And if the goal is to defeat this man in office, then that's not going to win. That's not going to get you there. But Biden ain't going to beat Trump either. You know, the other thing, because this is what you said.

I think Biden can beat him. Go ahead. You know what else may be at play? Because you talked about millennials. The millennials will always say to you, what are you going to do for the millennials? Exactly. Dripping with entitlement.

And my generation, I'm at the end of the greatest generation, or the baby boomers, I'm right at that end. We've always asked, what can we do for whatever the movement or initiative is? And that's a very important distinction because that mentality of entitlement means we owe them something. Exactly. And we don't owe them anything. And you've got gotta go get it

if you want it. There are not enough progressives in the U.S. for Bernie to win or for those initiatives to take place. They're not. He's tapped out. He's maxed out. Let me... Go ahead, Lauren. Go ahead. Wait, wait, wait.

In terms of what they've dealt with growing up historically, obviously the World War II generation had World War II and the Vietnam generation had Vietnam. And I think it's a different paradigm, quite frankly, when your friends are dying. We have 58,000 Americans die in a war. We have, you know, friends of yours at 18, 19 years old who are losing their life. The millennials haven't really had to deal with that type of life and death issue. Their biggest issues have been economic, like affordability for college, etc. And I think that

changes the game. When your mortality is standing in front of you and you've got decisions to make based on that, that's a lot different than previous. Nor did they go through the civil rights movement. They didn't go through the civil rights movement. Really interesting dynamic. Let me say this and I'm real clear.

That is, every generation has his own issues, what he wants to focus on. What I don't do is, millennials, y'all this, y'all that. This is very simple for me. This is extremely simple, and this applies

to Gen Z, millennials, Gen X, baby boomers. This applies to every voting bloc. Get your ass up and vote. Period. Let me be clear, y'all. That's it.

That is not an attack on any generation. What I am arguing is, if you want to do something, if you want to see something change, you got to get it. What can't happen, which is where I actually thought you were going, If you want to see something change, you got to get it. What can't happen, which is where I actually thought you were going. What can't happen is for, and I've seen these tweets on my timeline.

Y'all not taking into account us. Yes, I am. It's us voting. See, here's what can't happen. You can't look to me as a Gen Xer and tell me that I need to take you into account

but you don't vote. But you don't do nothing. So what you're really saying is you want me to stay in my ass and lie. And carry it for you. What you're saying is, you want me to stand my ass in line. And carry it for you. What you're saying is, you want me to show up in the primary and the general to vote, so you don't.

Now let me be real clear. I am not saying that millennials and Gen Z did not vote. That's not, they did vote. When you look at the numbers, when you look at the available number of Gen Z and Millennial, making up 40% of the population.

I think those were the numbers. 40%. But making up, in some states, 6% and 8% of the total electorate. What that means is you're not maximizing your power. So, you can't ask

somebody else... Booyah! Right? To fight my battle if I ain't trying to fight. And that just makes... Don't make any sense. I think the numbers actually are not that bad. I think they're capped at, I think, 24 years old. And their two biggest issues

seems to be health insurance and college affordability. What numbers are not bad? Uh, voting. Voting for young people. No, the numbers are bad. I think they're not that bad. No, they are bad. No, they're not that bad. I mean, voting numbers are bad across the board.

No, no, no, no. I'm talking about... I'm talking about the number of people turn out to vote. In terms of... in terms of that 18 to 30 category... 18 to 30 category, it's been like six, eight, 10 of a total electorate. You mean statewide or nationally? No, no, no, I'm talking about in each one of these states. If you go look at those exit polling numbers.

So here's the problem. So the problem is you bitching about older voters, but older voters are voting at this level. But then you're like, but, but, but, but the problem is demographic numbers are here. So take youth out of the old. It's the same thing I've been saying to Latinos for a decade. Don't come in with your demographic numbers. Then look at your vote numbers.

So your demographic numbers are, oh, we make up this, but this your demographic numbers, but your vote numbers here. And I keep saying to Latinos, you are never going to be able to maximize your demographic numbers until you maximize your vote numbers. This is why black voters are the most important voters because we show the hell up.

Yes. Every single time. Every single time. And we show the hell up over 90% of the Democratic Party. Right. And so what I'm trying to get... All these other demographics are to me really sort of meaningless. So what I'm trying to get young voters to understand is

ain't nobody going to save you but you. But you can't keep saying to the 65, you ain't shit because you voted for Biden. But your ass didn't vote. And Biden won. The bottom line is here. This election would look totally different if the young folks who say,

I'm with Bernie, showed up. Absolutely. Bernie, let me just go ahead and cut to the... Bernie Sanders thought they were going to show up. Bernie's entire deal was, I could turn out young voters, disaffected voters, especially disaffected white voters.

He was 0 for 3. Yeah. Well, that splits in half. I mean, the white vote splits in half. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Red and blue, red and blue. No, no, no, no. No, it does not split in half.

It's a franchise. It does not split in half. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Follow me here. It's not half and half. It's not half and half. No Democrat since 64 has gotten more than 39% of the white vote. So what I'm saying is, Bernie was saying, I, my message can bring out disaffected white voters. What I'm saying is, there's absolutely no data that shows that actually happened. So one of the reasons why he's losing is because he banked on this group to turn out

and pretty much ignored that group, and that group didn't turn out. What group did he ignore? But he promises that that movement... He promises that that movement would bring others along. No, what did he ignore? I'm serious. What do you mean? What did Bernie ignore? I along. No, what did he ignore? I'm serious. What do you mean? What did Bernie ignore? I'm just asking.

What did he ignore? Yeah, I'm just asking. Relax. What group did he ignore? Really? Yeah, really. Bernie Sanders. No, when you said that this affected white, I'm talking about for white.

I knew he ignored black people. No, no. Bernie Sanders ignored 45 plus. Bernie Sanders tried to build a movement that was driven by 18 to 35. Right, okay. And that sounded great. Right.

But the problem is, if you don't bring them out, hey... I think what he was actually trying to do was sort of channel, you know, most of the country, which is middle class and lower middle class, he's trying to do a poverty thing. And I just... At the end of the day, the of the country, which is middle class and lower middle class. He's trying to do a poverty thing.

And I just... At the end of the day, the powers that be... And I'm not trying to suggest the establishment stopped him. I'm not getting into that. But I do think that that's a conversation that's very hard to have in the Democratic Party. But he couldn't get the 45 and olders to join this movement that had all this energy, because his movement theory was,

-"I excite the base. They're young. They can be black or white. I got young independents, but I can they can join and we'll come along and we'll transform not only the party, but we can beat Trump. That hasn't happened yet.

I went to a Sanders rally two weeks ago in Richmond, Virginia, and there were a tremendous number of young people there. I was really surprised at that. I mean, you can't really from a... Hold on, hold on. Hold you. No, wait, wait. No, no, no, wait, wait, wait.

What did you say? You said there was a tremendous number of young people there in Richmond. Where? Richmond, Virginia. Where? Richmond, it was... At a what? It was at a...

Rally. It was a rally. Right, it was at a rally. Yeah. Did it translate to the voting box? I guess not. That's my point. I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. There were a lot of young people there. It's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it translated to anything. No, no, no. No, but that's precisely my point. Okay. My point is, it's one...

I mean, we're talking the universe of 120 million people. So I get that one rally, does that translate into 60 million voters? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm taking your one rally and now I'm extrapolating that. I know, but I'm not extrapolating. No, I am.

I'm just saying. No, no, I am. I'm just saying it was one rally in Richmond. No, no, no, no, no. That's all I'm saying. I am. No, I am because here's why. You should stop.

No, I am. No, no, no, no. I am because here's why. All the Bernie's, a lot of the Bernie's people, and especially a lot of people in the media, my God, look at it. It's 7,000 at a rally. It's 9,000...

No, we did that with Obama. No, no, no, no. Hold up. Yeah, we did. President, hold up. We were like, oh, my God. No, no, no. Obama didn't have 79,000 at a rally. He had 100,000 in Oregon. Right. That was a whole different ball. No, but follow me here. Let me finish the point. They were like, oh my God. Joe King put in 500

people in the room. Yeah, we did do that. Right. And so... Excitement does mean something. No, no, no. Follow me here. No, no, no. Follow me here. But my point is this here. You can have 7,000 at a rally. Right. But will 70,000 show up at the polls?

And the problem is, you got to get them. Yeah. What Reverend Barber and the poor people's campaign and what they've been doing. Mm-hmm. What they have not been doing is sitting here going, y'all need to discuss poverty. They've not been having their meetings in Washington, D.C.

and just going to the DNC and the RNC. You know where they've been? Idaho. Right. Kansas. Mm-hmm. They'veC and the RNC. You know where they've been? Idaho. Right. Kansas. They've been going to North Carolina. They've been in I'm telling y'all, they've been in Idaho. They had a thousand folks at a Jewish temple

in Los Angeles. They've been all around the country. They've been going to places where nobody, Democrat or Republican, shows up. Right. Because what he understood with Moral Mondays in November is, I can't just talk about what somebody should be talking about.

You got to go to the people and mobilize and organize. And in fact, one of his... Somebody even asked him, they said, there were 2,500 people at this event and you weren't even a speaker. And he said, well were 2,500 people at this event and you weren't even a speaker. And he said, well, that's the point.

We shouldn't have to get 2,500 showing up just because I'm showing up. And that's what I'm trying, that's what I'm, I need these Bernie people to understand. That if you want to actually build a movement, you gotta build, B-U-I-L-D. Which means that you've got to do that. If you say, we need to take our progressive values

and we need to take it state to state, city to city, county to county, town to town, neighborhood to neighborhood, city, you know, block by block, street by street, house by house, that's how you build movements. You don't build movements on Twitter. You don't build movements

just talking about it. You've got to actually do it. And then once you talk to them and you got them, now you got to get the second step, you got to get them registered. Now, if you get them registered, you got to get them to the primary. Then after the primary, you got to get them to the general. It's a four-step process.

It's not, hey, we got a rally. Hope to see y'all on Tuesday. We good. But if those young people who are his core supporters won't vote in the numbers he needs, he's not going to be able to convince others like me and who are more moderate voters to join the movement. You got to keep winning to join the movement, to get someone like me to join the movement and others.

I don't know that it's an age... I mean, it's demographics. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's demographics. You know what? No, no, no. I ain't got to get you to join.

What do you got to get me to do? If this group over here, Derek, has a larger block of people, and if I focus on mobilizing and organizing this group, I can overwhelm you. The problem is if I don't mobilize and organizing this group, I can overwhelm you. The problem is, if I don't mobilize and organize this group, and I'm hoping they turn out, you can whip my ass every single

time, because you're like, yo, that ain't gonna happen. Derek, that's just real basic. It's real basic, guys, but I think, too, something else that we haven't talked about. His policies. It just didn't make sense for America. Period. And we talk about the voter not showing up, the younger voter, all that kind of stuff. policies. It just didn't make sense for America. Period. And we talk about the voter not showing up, the younger voter, all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, they probably did. The older voter, though, you look at some of the stuff that Bernie Sanders is putting out, it just don't make sense. Even some of the stuff that Biden is talking about don't make sense. What do you mean, like paying for Medicare for all? No. Or paying for free college tuition? I want you to get to your point.

Last week, I testified, I want you to get to your point. Last week, I testified, was invited back to get witness testimony before the House Natural Resources Committee for a hearing for H.R. 5435 put out by Representative Giraldo from Arizona. This piece of legislation

seeks to remove every job in the oil and gas industry by 2032. How in the hell are we going to do that? How is that even possible? What was in the bill? You went to support it or oppose it. I went to oppose it.

That's the main thing. The bill is the American Land and Water... American Public Land, water, and climate change act solution. All right. That's not a solution. Yeah, but there are a lot of high-paying

green jobs that would come from that. Scott, we cannot, you cannot change the industry overnight. I don't think the bill wants to do that. First of all,

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Hold up, hold up. Y'all not gonna tell me. Y'all gonna read the bill. Wait, but hold up, hold up, hold up. Go read the bill. I'll tell you what it's been.

Did he just say by 2032? 2032, that's 12 years from now. That ain't overnight. That ain't overnight. That's not overnight. It took 100 years to get here. It is not going to change in 12. If y'all believe that, then I got some beachfront property for you in Montana.

If y'all believe that. Believe it. Here's what I know. That's why this shit ain't working. Here's what I know. That's why the shit ain't working. Here's what I know. What I know is real simple. And I know. Is that?

What I'm saying is just. Bernie Sanders has a likability factor, too, that bars him from a lot of people. I'm not even going to go down the whole likability. That's not a rabbit hole. That's a reality. All I'm saying is this here. This is very simple. You have to be able

to move people to act and to vote. Now, let me do this here, y'all. I got to deal with this here. So last night, I was on Twitter, and there's this state senator out of New York.

Y'all, her name is Julia Salazar. And I was lighting that ass up last night. Now, what she also has done, y'all, she deleted a bunch of these tweets. But basically what she did is she tweeted that she didn't want to hear nothing about any candidate

who won in the Democratic primary from a deep red state. And that's why I'm sitting here looking for some of the tweets that she sent out, because it was it was very, very problematic for me what she was sending out. And what was interesting is that, y'all, at one point she even criticized she even criticized Mike Espy because Mike Espy was one of the folks who endorsed Joe Biden. And so she was really in her feelings last night because of this. And let me find this tweet. Like I said, no, no, no, no, because she mad. She mad because Bernie didn't win.

So here's go to my go to my pad. To be clear, I mean the presidential primary, which I do not associate with other federal Democratic primaries because in my state they're two months apart. But Espy also endorsed Joe Biden. So I also don't care much what his political commentary is. OK, that's that's that's one thing that she said. I'm I'm trying to find now. Now, just so you know, come back to me just Just so y'all know, the problem is, she went and deleted a whole bunch of... That's why her tweets are not... She deleted a whole bunch of tweets. But she said, I don't care about any Democrat

who wins a presidential primary in a deep red state. Why is that problematic? Because really what she is saying is, we ain't gonna win them states in November anyway, so why we even listen to the people who vote in

these deep red states, because they're not gonna matter. Okay, that's really what she's saying. Okay. Now, what she's really saying is, all y'all black folks don't really give a damn what y'all think. This was the exact thing. There were white Bernie supporters who were saying this very same

thing in 2016. The reason that offended me when she said she don't care about Mike Espy's political commentary. How y'all ask a Democratic state senator and a vowed socialist, but you say you support Democratic policies, but then you're going to shit on Mike Espy,

but you need the Senate. Right. Cal Cunningham is running against Tom Tillis in North Carolina. That's the South. You could beat Tom Tillis and pick up his seat, but you don't give a damn about deep red states and who wins Democratic primary.

You've got Doug Jones, who's either going to face crazy-ass Tommy Tuberville or Jeff Sessions in Alabama, but you want to shit on Southern states. Mike Espy lost to Cindy High Smith by 68,000 votes in 2018. If you actually mobilize people, you can actually win that because of the number of black people who were eligible but who did not vote and a number of broke-ass white folks who want them rural hospitals but if you actually care. Now you got you got a runoff Royce West, state senator, might be running for the Senate in Texas. John Cornyn, numbers a week, deep red state. So

what you don't care about that as well? I can go down the line. But this is what happens when you are a short-sighted, ignorant Sanders supporter where you're so pissed off that what you want to do is, and let's just put all the chips in the middle of the table. There are Bernie Sanders supporters who are pissed off at black people in South Carolina because that's who revived the campaign of Joe Biden. They had Joe Biden on the ropes. They had him sweating heart palpitations. His career. He was like Lazarus needing Jesus to come and blow some breath into his body.

And black people in South Carolina blew some breath into Joe Biden's body, and Bernie supporters are mad as hell. So don't see... And then she's like, well, no, y'all know I'm not talking about people who fought for the right to vote. Damn that. If you shit on black people

who voted for Joe Biden in Mississippi, you shitting on Fannie Lou Hamer, you shitting on Bob Moses, you shitting on Fannie Lou Hamer. You shitting on Bob Moses. You shitting on the Mississippi Democratic Freedom Party. All these black people who fought all these years to make it possible, but you're shitting your narrow ass in New York State,

okay, where you're comfortable in Brooklyn, but you ain't, not only that, Democrats could pick up a damn U.S. Senate seat in Georgia. Two up. But you want to shit on deep red southern states by saying, I don't give a damn who wins the primary down there when the turnout in the primaries

could affect who comes out and wins in the general. But you got folks like this who put that nonsense out on Twitter and then, well, y'all or did she block y'all y'all the hell no she ain't blocked me y'all y'all ain't support my person Bernie but then you want to trash people from the south who living in places knowing full well they're Republican legislatures but they still fighting their ass off but you want to blow them off because you don't like it because they ain't support Bernie.

Given what Abrams did in Georgia... Has Bernie been on the show? Yes. Did you tell him all this? Given Kentucky and what Abrams did in Georgia and given Alabama and Virginia... And given a Democratic governor in Louisiana. And Virginia and Louisiana, that's right.

You would think that the thinking would be quite different, but everything that you just said is just really just a reflection of what many liberal Democrats do all the time, which is really sort of disregard. You know, black people are here to help us get in power. Black people are here to help us go forward. We don't want you running anything. We don't want you in control of anything. You're you're to help us get to where we want to go. And your issues don't matter. Meanwhile, you're

supposed to help us with our shit. Okay, that's the other thing. I tweeted last night, I said, because this woman, she's, and not only that, she's a member of the Black Puerto Rican Latino Caucus in the New York State Assembly. I spoke two years

ago at the New York... Who is this? Her name? Her name is State Senator Julia Salazar. And the reason I'm spending the time to call her out, Scott, is because the problem here is this is why Democrats have not done well in

the South, because they blow it off. We ain't got no chance of winning. If Stacey Abrams did not bust her ass to register those people, find them, guess what? That state wouldn't be in play. North Carolina, if black folks did

not mobilize and organize and stop the Republicans in the last ten years, North Carolina had one of the lowest voting participation numbers in the damn country years, North Carolina had one of the lowest voting participation numbers in the damn country. When they changed their laws, when they changed their laws,

and in 2008 roll around, Obama won North Carolina by 14,100 votes. They went from the bottom to the top five, and the Republicans said, oh, hell no, we ain't gonna have this, and they changed the laws there. And so it offends me as a native texan okay who i'm watching what's happening in texas again for this dumb ass state senator right when you have 500 000 new

people moving texas every single year the suburbs in texas have changed republicans are freaking the hell out in texas dallas county where dallas is used to be a deep red county. Now it's a deep blue county. Most of them come from California. Right. And see, here's what I love about it. The Republican governors, Rick Perry and Abbott, they keep going to California, recruiting the companies, saying, bring your business to Texas, not realizing they bringing Democratic voters. But when you trash the decision of... And what she's really saying is,

y'all don't count. We should only be listening to the blue states. Because we ain't going to win y'all in November. So who y'all pick? And so it offends her with the delegates in these southern states. It's not smart either. The courts have been

looking at voter suppression in these red states and we's not smart either. The courts have been looking at voter suppression in these red states, and we've been winning a lot. Secondly, there are a lot of states in the South, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina. These Senate races, which is, in my opinion, more important in some circumstances than the presidential race, they're competitive. I mean, Amy McGrath in Kentucky is running a strong race.

Graham, Senator Graham in North Carolina, South Carolina. Jamie Harris in South Carolina. Jamie Harris running a hard race and strong race and running neck and neck in the polls. And I know that's just a snapshot, but the red states are in play. I think they've got a shot. You have over 100,000 potential Democratic votes

from the legislation in Florida for those who are returning citizens. There's a lot to look at, a lot to play with, and a lot to believe in these red states that the Dems have a shot because of African Americans. We cannot forget that. I'm not going to let nobody,

white or Latino, trash black people from the South having the audacity to vote in the election and say that this is who we want for. Because you know what? If this election was based on white folks in Iowa and New Hampshire, right now, right now,

Buttigieg would be leading, Klobuchar would be at the top, and guess what? They'd be getting crushed everywhere else. But you got folks, because they support Sanders, now you all mad. Yo, guess what? They be getting crushed everywhere else. But you got folks, because they support Sanders, now you all mad. Yo, guess what? Somebody going to lose in an election.

It's simple as that. You got to win. Just go win. But what you're not going to do, but what you're not going to do, you're not going to shit on black people. That's what you're not going to do. We ain't really talking about y'all.

Yes, you are. We ain't foolish. All talking about y'all. Yes, you are. We ain't foolish. All right, y'all. Man, I hate to report this story. Houston Mega Church Pastor, Reverend Kerber John Caldwell, pastors of Windsor Village United Methodist Church, the largest church in the United Methodist Church,

pleaded guilty today after being accused of defrauding people of millions using phony bonds. He was indicted two years ago in federal court on wire fraud and money laundering charges. Caldwell and his investment advisor partner, Gregory Smith, sold nearly $3.5 million in worthless pre-revolutionary Chinese bonds to the elderly and vulnerable investors.

Both men face years in federal prison if convicted, well, first of all, they pled guilty. And already, as a part of the plea deal, Kerber John Caldwell has to pay back a final $250,000. He's going to pay back nearly $2 million to investors before the sentencing takes place and is going to face anywhere from five to seven years in prison,

forfeit a home that he also owns in Houston. And so a lot of folks were shocked. No, that ain't my church. No, no, no, no. No, I'm from Houston. I'm at Church Without Walls. I've spoken at Windsor Village. I've known Kerber John Caldwell for years.

Many people, of course, when he was indicted, I just read the damn story. What the hell? Were you not paying attention? I'm not even done reading the story. So he was indicted two years ago, folks, and many folks were actually shocked and stunned when it happened because here's somebody

who graduated from the Wharton School of Business worked at First Boston worked on Wall Street wrote financial books sat on the board of Continental Airlines but man pled guilty today in federal court in Shreveport Louisiana in this investment scam what would he say I mean what was his defense of this if at all I'm I'm sorry. First of all, when you plead guilty, there is no defense. Well, there were statements made before that. And of course, there's always a defense. No, no. His initial defense was, I'm going to be found not guilty.

He had Dick DeGuerin to be his attorney. But when his co-defendant flipped and pled guilty on July 23rd, 2019. There's the back story. You didn't read that. No, but I didn't have to. Because guess what? When you plead guilty. It the back story. You didn't read that. I didn't have to, because guess what? When you plead guilty, it don't matter. You guilty. Nothing else really matters.

You don't have a defense when you plead guilty. Speaking of guilty, today Harvey Weinstein sentenced to 23 years in prison in New York State. He was convicted of committing a criminal sexual act, the first degree and third degree rape. He'll also be formally registered as a sex offender. His team says they will appeal the jury's decision

to convict him on two of the five charters he faced. But, folks, he's not out of trouble. He, of course, is facing charters in Los Angeles as well. Lauren, six of the women who testified and accused him of sexual assault were in the courtroom today. Some were cheering, some were crying. 23 years, that's a long damn time for somebody.

And his lawyers say he may die in prison. Many others say so. Yeah, I mean, obviously he should have gotten, um, a substantial amount of time for what he did. It was a surprising case and a landmark case in that, uh, I think it was Cy Vance who said that we no longer need evidence. I don't want to misquote him, but there was something to the effect. Right, which was

sort of like crazy. Yeah. We kind of do need evidence. But, you know, I do think that the prosecution did come perilously close to blowing this case. I mean, they were very lucky that we live in the age that we live in in terms of MeToo,

in terms of paying attention to these types of crimes, but they came very close to overplaying their hand a little bit. And Donna Rotundo was a very good defense attorney for Harvey Weinstein. She probably does have a point with regard to factual data with regard to the length of sentence, because I think the length of sentence is a little bit longer than what people usually get.

We're not on the federal sentencing guidelines, so it's a state guideline, so they may get away with that. But, frankly, Annabella Sciorra, the use of the Molyneux witnesses, a lot of that detail was very interesting and very unprecedented. It would not surprise me if on appeal something strange happened.

They had a problem with two jurors and I thought a fairly serious problem with one of the jurors. But, you know, I think at the end of the day, sort of the same thing I thought about Cosby in terms of you felt like this person is guilty, but what plays out in court often is not proven. In the case of Weinstein, you know, you feel this person is definitely guilty, but what plays out in court often is not proven. In the case of Weinstein, you know,

you feel this person is definitely guilty, but the case, the details, the arguments, and the level of proof and the reasonable doubt seem to be there, and it was sort of interesting to really watch the details of that. Well, in legal terms, what was problematic about the case and what you're kind of putting your finger on is that prior relationships,

cases like sex and domestic violence cases, if there's a prior relationship, those are the toughest cases to prosecute. And one of the women who testified said that he raped her, but they continue to have a consensual relationship. For several years. Jessica Mann, I think that was. Yeah, Jessica Mann.

He got 20 years, he got three years, so total of 23, plus five years probation. That'll certainly be appealed. Oh, and I'm sorry, they're running that concurrently. Right. Not consecutively.

Right. Okay, okay. But a person out there listening, explain that. That means he's got to serve 20 years, and then he's got to serve three, and when he gets out, if he's still with us, then he's got to do three. And when he gets out, if he's still with us,

then he's got to do five years probation. And so that's 28 years of being on papers, if you will. That'll probably be appealed also. The other part that'll be appealed is that this, what we call evidence of other bad acts or crimes, which are carve-outs for hearsay. That is, okay, I brought three counts from three women who said this happened, right?

Those charges and trials should have been, may have been, should have been bifurcated, but they weren't. Then they brought in a few other women who they say committed bad acts. And they were brought in by the prosecution to show, and the judge let them do this, to show that it wasn't a mistake, that it had higher probative value than the prejudicial impact on the jury, i.e., if he did these bad acts to these three women,

he certainly did these bad acts and rapes and assaults of the three women that are subject to the charges. So that'll probably be appealed to. We'll just have to see. This is quintessential Me Too movement. This is at the heart of it, if you will. And the jury has spoken, juries have spoken, but they certainly have been impacted by the media

and the Me Too movement. And that's a good thing, if you will, but we're no better with MeToo and having women not suffer in silence if individuals are prosecuted or over-prosecuted and there's an injustice within that trial. And so we have to be very careful. We can applaud the conviction and the sentencing,

but we cannot violate justice and the rights of these individuals, for they will know better than what their bad acts were. Derek, bottom line here. Gotta be really clear. This man was accused by... Did he interrupt me again? Actually, no. It's called... It's called ending your comment.

Um, that's what happens. Uh, 24 different women accused him of all sorts of different things like this. He still faces charges in Los Angeles. Right. Yeah, first of all, I'm with Cosby. That's the first thing. What do you mean you're with Cosby?

You mean he should not have been convicted? Anyway, so the man... No, was that giving him drugs? He should not have had sex with him after giving him drugs? Is that what you're supporting? Hold on, I'm trying to get to the point. First of all, if you stood up, let him finish. Go ahead.

I think there was some... I just think there was some problems with his trial, too. I think things could have gone differently. That's all I'm saying. The other one was a bad act as well. I got it. Go ahead. Now finish your point about Weinstein. Go ahead.

But Weinstein, I'm glad to see he was convicted because it went on for a long time. But Scott, I do agree with you. If there's a sentencing guideline that needs to be followed then we should look to that as opposed to just sentencing this man just there are some state sentencing guidelines i'm just not as familiar i mean but the bottom line is i think that you know again it's it's another one of these moments where you know this person is guilty, and yet you watch the court case. That's called prejudicial effect.

Yeah, I mean, you watch the court case, but you don't see the actual... And when Cy Vance made the comment about, you know, well, we don't need evidence in these cases, who that will end up hurting later on are the people who don't have the money to hire people like Donna Rotono. Right.

So the poor defendant that gets accused of something that they can't disprove... Real quick, real quick. What Sylvain was saying was they're going to try cases where it's his word against her word or vice versa versus delaying it and looking for additional, stronger corroborating evidence.

That's what he said. Testimony is evidence, right? They're not going to exactly sit on it simply because they don't have any corroborating evidence. And that's a policy change for his office. Chicago Alderman Greg Mitchell was furious that a developer who plans to convert a historic office building into a 349-room hotel

does not have any plans to include minorities in the $137 million project. The City Council's Economic Development Committee approved the property tax break needed to pave the way for the preservation and rehabilitation of the building that once served as the downtown headquarters of the City Colleges of Chicago. Mitchell threatened to hold up the tax break

in the full City Council if the developer doesn't come up with a specific plan for minority participation by the March 18th meeting. Okay, Derek, here's what's interesting about this. According to the Chicago Sun-Times, this guy rarely talks, never really says anything. This absolutely pissed him off. I mean, he went all in. People kind of like, like, damn. Right, right, right. I can just tell you, man, just years ago, I was a small contractor, 8A on GSA's schedule. And so, you know, you look for those opportunities

to come your way as a small business owner. And so most of the time when you have these contracts, there should be set-asides, especially when it comes to construction contracts, that should go to minorities. Okay, and again, they have set-asides there in Chicago. This developer's like, no, we good. And literally could not answer.

He said, what's your plan? He could have answered, no, no, no And literally could not answer. He said, what's your plan? He couldn't even answer. He said, no, no, no, you're not going to come in front of this and you have no plan whatsoever. I mean, and this is the only, Lauren, this is the only way, when you talk about African-Americans and economic power, this is where Maynard Jackson understood it.

Three Bs, the ballot, the book, the ballot, the book, as well as the book. How you use political power to create economic opportunities. And the bottom, the book, the ballot, the book, as well as the book. How you use political power to create economic opportunities. And the bottom line is here, if you do not have Black Alderman forcing this to happen, these white developers will come in there, keep building, never have to give any contracts

whatsoever, and this is the game. Yeah, but that big... Lauren, hold on. Lauren, be there. No, it's true. You gotta watch the money. Obviously, where the money goes, where the money allocated, and who gets the opportunities to make that money is the whole ballgame. And Maynard Jackson did understand that. And so many African-American...

What about Mary Berry? So many African-American politicians do not understand that. And as we know, Mary and Berry, of course, had the summer jobs program and literally put money into the pockets of young people all over Washington, D.C. People still remember that because those kids, of course,

were helping their families pay the rent. So, yeah, that was huge. Well, Mary and Barry, let me tell you something else. Mary and Barry built downtown D.C. with the white developers, but he also built Black Wall Street, if you will. Black bankers who were involved

in public and private finance, he put them on the deals. He was highly conscious of the buck and the box and whatever Rowan said. He was quite conscious of that. Okay, there were three Bs for Manor Jackson. I'm into it. The ballot, the book, and the buck.

Now, the problem is how many black mayors... And Manor Jackson wasn't alpha. Clearly, capitals don't know. How many black mayors in the top 10 urban cities of this country have the courage to enforce those set-asides or those local business enterprises to make sure they get their fair share? And that's why...

It starts with Lori Lightfoot. It doesn't start with them. Right. They're putting pressure on the new mayor, Lori Lightfoot, who's black, to say, hey, don't just be supporting this, and you ain't making sure... She signed off on this deal.

That's right. That's what I was going to say. The bid, whoever that bid came from, it should have had that in there already. We shouldn't even have this conversation. Well, I'm glad to see all of them. We're going to try and get them on the show and talk more about this here.

Y'all, real quick, Johnson Publishing Company, of course, you know, they filed for bankruptcy, reached a $500,000 settlement in a defamation lawsuit brought by the family of two Georgia high school students

who said they were falsely implicated in the death of a black student in a series of articles published by Ebony magazine. FBI agent Richard Bell and his wife Karen filed a $5 million defamation lawsuit against the now bankrupt Johnson Publishing Company for articles they allegedly indirectly linked their son to the death of Kendrick Johnson,

the black young man who was found lifeless inside a rolled-up gym mat at his high school. Now, state medical examiners concluded that the death of 17-year-old Johnson was accidental asphyxiation after he became trapped while trying to retrieve a shoe that fell into the large mat. Ebony subsequently ran a series of articles suggesting Johnson's death was no accident

and pointed an accusatory finger now And here's what interesting y'all They didn't actually appoint. Okay. Now this is the weirdest thing. They didn't accuse the brothers of This what they did is so the brothers are Brandon and Brian bail They created two other people who were fictitious, whose dad was an FBI agent.

Okay. Okay, now... Okay, that's just nuts. Now, Brandon and Brian will receive $500,000 payment from the Johnson Publishing Company Insurance Company under the terms of the proposed settlement with a schedule for a March 31st hearing in Chicagoago bankruptcy court if approved it will settle all claims by the bell family against johnson publishing okay so here's the problem i have here what do you mean

they created a fictitious no no it was an fbi no literally in these articles in these articles they created this up these two brothers Okay, whose last name was Martin. I faintly remember this. And it was like, because there were like a number of articles published or appeared. So they created this article. Ebony created this?

The writer created these fictitious brothers whose dad was an FBI agent. In real life, there are two brothers who went to the school whose dad is an FBI agent. In real life, there are two brothers who went to the school whose dad is an FBI agent. The dad in the family is like, hell, y'all talking about us. I'm just trying to understand

how the hell does a fictitious character get created in a real news story? I'll tell you. I'll answer that one for you. Journalism is now infiltrated by a bunch of people who are not journalists, right?

And they show up at these publications and they're writing a lot of opinion and feelings and all this, and they're not really getting down to the basics of journalism, which is the pyramid, you know, system of who, what, when, where, and why. But what editor allows that?

How do you know the editor was a journalist? I mean, you know, I mean, a lot of these news organizations, you know how this is. This is why there's been arguments about having journalistic licenses and this and that, which I've actually resisted, because, you know, the Constitution basically covers the press in a way that would probably not allow that. But this is a moment where you say to yourself,

maybe we should have licenses for journalism. And it's costing them $500,000. Okay, but see, you all have, you're looking at it through a journalistic prism. I'm not familiar with the article. Really? Hold on, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

So journalists will look at it through a journalistic prism? I would think a lawyer would look at it through a legal prism. Damn, really, Scott? Let me add some reality to your discussion. Now, go ahead. Go ahead. Clear my throat. Go ahead.

If these are kids and they're under 18 and they're subject of an investigation or suspects in an investigation, I could easily see a newspaper or publication using fictitious names as long as you're advising the reader that these are fictitious names. But they should have just reported that they were being investigated. Scott, Scott, Scott. But you could use fictitious names

as long as you advise the public of it. No, no, no, no, no. If they're under 18, you cannot use their name back then. You couldn't. Actually, you can. Actually, you can. You could use their name, they're under 18, and they're targets of an investigation.

Yes, you can. You could. Yes, you can. Take it from the damn journalists who've been doing it. Well, I've never been a journalist, but I've been a lawyer a long time. Well, you damn sure ain't been a journalist. And what you don't do is, you do not write a story, you do not write a story where you're using

real details in 99% and go, oh, by the way, here, wait a minute. What about in a rape case? You don't publish the woman, the victim's name. That's a policy thing. I understand. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. No. that's a policy thing excuse me excuse me excuse me excuse me no different if you do not publish

the name of the individual you do not create a false name what you will say is we are not publishing the name of the rape victim in the story you say the accuser. What you don't say is here is Brian Bell, but I'm going to create Christopher Martin and call his name. No. I'm going to create a fictitious name whose dad happens to be an FBI agent. Am I writing a novel or a news story?

I was going to raise that too. Was this a real news story or a novel? Yes. It was a real news story. I'm going to look up what you said. Go right ahead. That's why you should have done a research before the show started. I did read it. You should send better information. Nah, you just can't read. I'm not proud of being attacked by you. You just can't read.

Alright, y'all. There you go. You want me to get off your ass right now. Remember the five-mile little boy who called out the police after being accused of stealing? Well, his parents finally saw his video and you already know they were not having it. So here's the update to that story. I have a confession to make.

And I got an apology. I would like to apologize to my mother and father for my actions and embarrassing them and my family nationwide. I would like to apologize to my grandmother... Do y'all have the original video? ...on Facebook and also for my actions. I would like to apologize for using the N-word and anyone I have offended by my actions. Do y'all have the original video? I owe it to myself, my parents, everyone watching, including all my supporters to do better. Thank you.

All right, y'all have the original video? Y'all got the original? I don't know if y'all saw the original video. Look, I agree with his parents in terms of use of the N-word. That's about it. I'm cool with everything my little man did. Call them cops stupid and fools because of what they said to him.

No, the cops... So, basically, they accused him of stealing, and my man straight up, like, look at these fools. Look at this... No, actually, it's pretty funny. Uh, you know, no, it's pretty funny. Uh, no, I mean, don't ask me. I'm like, I'm waiting on it in there.

Um, so, uh, hold up. Little boy cusses cops. Let me see if I can find it that way. Um, let's see here. I'm waiting on, okay, people, videos. Y'all got it? Roll it. Volume.

Look how dumb he look. Look. Look at him. I want all y'all badge number two. I swear to God I'm not playing. Look at him. Look how dumb they look. How dumb you look. How dumb you feel. I ain't have nothing on me, did I? Crazy. Feeling so stupid. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him, man. Thought I was stealing. Look at this man. Over here looking like the man off of, uh, bro, what? Stop playing with me, bro. They thought I was stealing. Now they feeling stupid, man, because they caught DeAnthony with

all this stuff. Now they ain't caught me with nothing. I ain't had nothing. I want your badge Show badge number show badge number. Jamin. Yup. Bo, hey can I get your badge number? Huh? No can I? You're sitting down. Bo don't put your hands on me. Hey Bo don't put your hands on me Bo. Look y'all see it right?

Don't put your hands on me. Bo can you get your hands off me Bo? Are you gonna stand up again? No I ain't gonna stand up. Get your hands off me. I want y'all badge number, too. My mom. I want y'all badge number.

I want y'all badge number because y'all badge number is about ready to pop off, y'all fat ass. I want every one of y'all badge number. I promise you, I want every single one of y'all badge number. Y'all think I'm bold. Ooh, y'all so lucky. If y'all took these badges off, I'd fire on all the bitches right now, bro. Look at him. Look how dumb he look.

You look. Look at him. Look at him. Give him dumb he look. You look. Look at him. Look at him. Look at my bag. Look at my bag. Look at my bag. Look at him. Look at him, y'all.

Look at him. Thought I was still a goofy. Goofy. Looking dumb. Stop playing with me. Looking dumb. Stop playing. I ain't had nothing in my bag.

And you sound crazy. Pocket full of money. Now how dumb do you look? Now look at him. Say hello to the live, sir. Here, look how dumb you look, y'all. Look how dumb you look. Looking stupider than...

That look stupid. Just dumb. You look pitiful. You look pitiful. You look pitiful. Because you think me and my mans was doing? You look pitiful. Pitiful.

Look at you. Look, you look so stupid. Do you believe how dumb you look right now? You look pitiful. Pitiful. Look at you. Look, you look so stupid. Do you believe how dumb you look right now? You look so dumb. You look so stupid. This is crazy. You look dumb. Hey, I'm with the man. I'm like, you gonna accuse me and I ain't got nothing? Don't encourage that. Don't encourage that. Damn that dumb. No. Hey, I'm talking. Don't encourage that. Hey! Damn that, Dom. No.

Hey, I'm talking... You cannot encourage that. I can. I just did. I'm 79 years old. Hey. Being disrespectful to the police. Give me a break.

Yeah, okay. You're gonna endorse that. Damn break. I'm glad he's not coming to live with you. Hold on. He said, he said, are you gonna endorse it? Sustain.

Sustain. Your Honor. They would have beat us. Motion for reconsideration. Sustained. Oh, my God. I'm glad he's not spending the summer with you. I ain't got no... Y'all won't be out there cursing the police.

Let's see who we can curse off. I would have helped my man look me out on his cracks. I'm glad he wrote an apology. It seems sincere. I don't know why. I didn't see the context of why the police had stopped him. Dammit, you weren't paying attention. They accused him of stealing.

They accused him of stealing something and he had nothing with him. And so they stopped him and it was a reasonable stop. Why they got to get on video and get cursed out by a seven-year-old? Easy. Don't stop me for doing nothing. But his man was stealing though. His boy was stealing. Just like last night. Well, guess what? Stop him. Just like last night in

Raleigh, the cops thought this Cat Torres was stealing a pizza. He actually paid for it, but he was running home with a damn pizza. Shot him in the abdomen. Oh, really? Yes. You asked him to stop? Shot him and thinking, oh, it was a stolen pizza.

So that was worth shooting the kid? No, but this is the problem I'm talking about. The problem I'm talking about is you got young black boys who get accused by cops of stuff, didn't do stuff, somebody young reacting a different way, take off, cop pull a gun out, fire, oh, it was self-defense

because I thought they were going to harm me. Damn that. Making punk asses look like some fools. That young man needed to be quiet, have his parents called, all the video, and all the smart-aleck talk. That may be entertaining, but I got to tell you, his life was at risk with those cops.

No, it wasn't, because he had all their asses on video. He was streaming live. And guess what? They can all lie together. And you know this. Not a single one of them cops... Not a single one of them cops. They didn't make a move. Not a single one of them cops.

They didn't make a move. They like, little man got ass on video. You didn't make a move. Right. You saw that out there. They didn't make a move. It was about five of them. And what they do off camera.

As we say. What they do off camera. Hold up. There was no off camera because they were on camera the whole time. When he went off camera, they could have abused him and denied it. Don't endorse him. You're wrong about that. Not now, one move.

You're encouraging child delinquency. You can't spell now. But not now, one move. They're like, his ass got us on video and it's straight. And then my man was like, badge. My man was like, badge, badge, badge.

If he was 10 years to five years older, you wouldn't be encouraging that because it would have been beating his ass. Yes, I would. Just like that black man, like when that cop in Chicago. I'm talking right now. Like when that black man, that white cop had the brother hemmed up in Chicago

and the brother was filming and he was like, no, no, no, bro. Know your rights. He can't stop you right now. He can't request your ID. The brother knew the whole law and when the brother was eating that cop's ass, the cop was like, okay, all right, the cop walked away because the brother knew the law.

No, no, no, no, no, hell no. When the police decide to take you, you can't talk them out of taking you on the street. Guess what? So do not encourage that on this show. First of all, Scott, you're lying. Scott, you're lying. Scott, in Texas, no, no, no. Hell no.

When they decide to take you, you cannot convince them otherwise. Scott, first of all, let me correct you again. I thought I was one lawyer on the panel. Let me check. It don't matter if you're a lawyer. Here's what I do know. You're going to get with me again. Here's what I do know.

What I do know. That brother was hemmed up by the cop, and the cop was demanding his ID. That brother did not have to give him his ID. He did. And the brother who was recording was citing the law, and that cop saw the brother with the camera, citing the law, was kind of like,

damn, I ain't going to win this one. And then he walked his ass off. Maybe that cop did, but another cop wouldn't. Just like you were wrong. You're gonna spend a night in jail over some ID that could probably clear you off the street. You know, people say... Stop it! Your argument, people say all the time,

you can't stop, you know, fight the power. You can't do this, you can't do that. Not on the street when they decide to take you. You're wrong. I'm right. Go on. Harvey Weinstein, let's get back to that for a second. Everybody said, oh, he's the most powerful producer. We can't say anything about him

because we can't bring this guy down. Well, they just brought him down. Well, that's different, though. The police. The police. Okay, well, let's talk about the police. Okay. If everybody had the reaction of what the Black Panthers did, do you think the police would have the same attitude?

Probably not. They were there legally. Probably not. At the same capital. Right? I They were there legally. Probably not. I mean, if everybody says at some point, we're not putting up with this bullshit anymore, you're going to get a different reaction. I got it.

I know you live in the world of, ooh, bourgeois, we're scared, we can't say anything. It doesn't always work. It doesn't always work. She call your ass bourgeois and scared? She call your ass bourgeois. At some point, you got to stand up. At some point, you got to stand up.

At some point, you got to stand up. You can do whatever you want. I'm talking about survivability. You want to spend the night in jail, or you want to go home? Or you want to get harassed for another 400 years. You want to get harassed for another 400 years, or you just stay and say nothing? I'm not bourgeoisie because I'm giving you facts

and support for survivability. At what point do you stand up against what's wrong, Scott? I don't know. If you're ready to spend a day in jail and get your ass whooped, so be it. But why do I have to be bourgeoisie because I'm giving advice and counsel? Why does that somehow make me weaker because I'm sharing with you what the law is and what the law requires? Because what you're saying is the exact same thing that they told Martin Luther King, all of our leaders, to stand down and do nothing, and just go along with it. I'm not telling you that.

It doesn't work. I said to get to go home or to go to jail. You can fight the power after you're arrested. You can sue. You can be made whole. You can sue the whole police department. You can file civil rights suits, what have you. What I'm talking about is survival on the streets

when you encounter these police. It's a big difference. Guess what? You shouldn't be calling me names just because I got a viewpoint. Guess what? You shouldn't be doing that. Guess what?

I don't do it to you. Guess what? I don't. Guess what? Little man calling names on video. Shouldn't be encouraging that. And guess what? You shouldn't be encouraging that.

I'm telling you right now. Well, guess what? All you cops out there, first of all, in five years, he's going to do it and he's going to get his ass whipped. All of you cops, I said it again.? All you cops out there, first of all, all of you cops, I said it again, all of you cops, all of you cops, all of you cops out there

learn to stop sitting here and to snatch at any black boy and think you're not going to get videotaped. I keep telling all y'all, always have the camera rolling at all times. And guess what? Shoot their name, shoot their badge ID, because here's the deal.

What these cops expect us, they want us to be silent. They want us to back down. They want us to acquiesce. They want us to go, okay, ain't gonna say nothing. And nobody's encouraging them. No, no, no. Take their badge number, film them, do whatever you want to do with them.

And that's the whole deal. Imagine what was going on before filming them. Engaging them, whether you're arguing with them or otherwise, whether you're 7 or 17, is not recommended on the street at that moment. You cannot disagree with that. What happened on that tape proves you wrong, of course, right? It does. You're 7 years old, and those cops just didn't want to do it.

Derek is now talking. Those cops didn't want to do it. Derek is now talking. But other cops could. Derek is now talking. It's a dangerous proposition you're promoting. Derek is now talking. I was want to do it. Those cops didn't want to do it. But other cops could. It's a dangerous proposition you promote. Derek is now talking. I was going to say, Scott, we might be a little bougie. We're Jack and Jill, OK?

There's nothing wrong with Jack and Jill. Jack and Jill is a powerful organization. Y'all are Jack and Jill. Yeah, you some bougie Negroes. It doesn't run with being bougie. We're working class people. You ain't working class. OK, class people. You ain't working class. Okay, middle class.

You ain't middle class. Okay, upper middle class. You ain't upper middle class. We drive the economy. We drive the economy. Don't get mad because we drive the economy. I just gave your organization $1,000. You ain't even grateful for it.

You know what I mean? That bougie just gave you $1,000. It should have been $10,000. And you know what? If you treat me better, you might get do? I'm gonna write bougie on it. And you take it. You're gonna take it like you take everything else. I don't hate bougie. I just call it when I see it. I've had it. I've had it. I just call it when I see it. I've had it. I've had it. I just call it when I see it.

Scott's walking off the stage right now. I'm walking. Let's go. And you're walking with me. That's what we're going to. Let's go. First of all, that's a TV monitor. That's a TV monitor.

If you don't point to the TV monitor, your bougie ass points to the camera. That's the camera right there. I'm pointing at both of them. We're leaving. Who's with me? Who's with me? Who's with me? All right, y'all. Derek, you going?

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I'm like, something black happened. I remember when the Donna Imus thing on CNN. Boy, it was so many black people on CNN. The next week with the Virginia Tech shooting, was nobody black on the air. They were all talking about Nappy Hair. It was as if black people could not comment on shooting at Virginia Tech.

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