#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Day 7 Shutdown Chaos, Schumer Health Plan, Trump Threatens Pay, Bondi Hearing Fire, Kyren Lacy Case

Episode Date: October 18, 2025

10.7.2025 #RolandMartinUnifltered: Day 7 Shutdown Chaos, Schumer’s Health Plan, Trump Threatens Pay, Bondi Hearing Fire, Kyren Lacy CaseIt's day seven of the government shutdown. Senate Min...ority Leader Chuck Schumer lays out the Democrats' plan to hold the line for American healthcare.The twice-impeached, criminally convicted felon-in-chief, Donald "The Con" Trump, is saying furloughed federal workers aren't guaranteed back pay, and airports are seeing major delays. California Congresswoman Sydney Kamlager-Dove will join us to talk about all of this. Today, in a heated hearing on Capitol Hill, Attorney General Pam Bondi testified regarding the Department of Justice. We'll show you some of the exchanges she had with Illinois Senator Dick Durbin.The Louisiana NAACP is calling for accountability in the Kyren Lacy case. State police have released body camera footage that may explain why Kyren was blamed for the fatal crash.We'll speak with another candidate who wants to be the next mayor of New Orleans. In our Shop Black Star Network Marketplace segment, we will feature fashionable scrubs specifically for healthcare professionals.#BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseThis Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing.Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV.The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:59 about the Democrats' plan to hold the line for American health care. Also, twice impeached, criminally convicted felon in chief Donald McConnell Trump is saying furloughed federal workers aren't guaranteed backpaid. Airports are seeing major delays. We'll be joined by California Congresswoman Sidney Kamlaugadov about all of the drama.
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Starting point is 00:04:00 It's time to bring the funk on Rolla Martin Unfiltered. On the Blackside Network, let's go. He's got... Whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine. And when it breaks, he's right on time, and it's rolling. Best believe he's knowing. Putting it down from sports to news to politics.
Starting point is 00:04:21 With entertainment just for kicks, he's rolling. It's Uncle Ro-Royo, y'all. Yeah, yeah. It's rolling Martin, yeah. Rolling with rolling now. Yeah. He's bonky,'s fresh, he's real the best you know, he's rolling, Martin now. Folks, Day 7, the government shutdown.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Today, House and our leader, Hakeem Jeffers, rejected a short-term extension of Obamacare, the Fidable Care Act subsidies as part of efforts to reopen the government. The shutdown is disrupting air travel nationwide. Staffing shortages have led to significant delays in airports, now federal. employees may not get back paid
Starting point is 00:05:17 when the government reopens. During us right now is California Congresswoman, Sidney Cum LaGerdot. Glad to have you back on the show. Lots of drama at the Burbank airport. People on planes and there were no air traffic controllers. How the hell does that happen? I don't know how that happens.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But it's happening because we're a day seven of a government shutdown completely preventable by Donald J. Trump and his Republican cronies. I have to tell you I have toured air traffic control towers. These folks have highly stressful jobs. They are under-resourced, under staff.
Starting point is 00:05:51 They need all of our support. So I'm not offended that they said we can't do this. But it does show you how important, how pervasive government services are and why Republicans need to come back to the negotiating table with us because we don't want planes dropping out of the air, do we? One of the things that, you know, when we talk about this whole deal here, And I keep hearing this, and I ask this question of Senator Schumer as well, people are sitting here saying, hey, if Democrats, if you're going to swing, swing, don't, don't cave, don't buckle, and force these people to confront the issue of health care. And the polling numbers show more people are blaming the Republicans for this, and they also want those subsidies.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Absolutely. So, you know, we've been to this rodeo before, and Democrats were upset that Chuck Schumann. Schumer wasn't riding with his house set. You know, where I'd come from, that's what you got to do. You got ride with your set. So Democrats in the House said, we are not voting for a clean CR because it is not clean. It is dirty. It is doubling down on the health care cuts that we saw in the big, ugly bill. So we are voting. No. Now, if you want to cancel the cuts, then, you know, we're here for this. But they're not willing to do that. And so here we are. I have to say that Medicaid, Medicare is on the table. People are already getting letters from their insurance companies telling them that their premiums are going to double. Deductibles, co-pays are going to double. Donald Trump, because he's so
Starting point is 00:07:25 nasty, has already cut whick and snap food assistance for hundreds of thousands of mothers with their new hungry babies. I've got 32,000 mothers and new babies in my district that don't have wick or snap because Donald Trump just decided to be extra cruel while we're in. this government shutdown. And when you can have Marjorie Taylor Green Post and say, hey, Mike Johnson, let's start negotiating with Democrats, because even my kid's insurance is going to double, then that's when you know that they are full of, you know what. So, look, we saw last night, we saw the vote in the Senate, the fifth vote there as well. And you've got Trump and you've got his people who are kind of like,
Starting point is 00:08:16 you know what, who gives it them? Let them starve. You've got Russell Vaught wants to do what he wants to do. You've got crazed, deranged, white supremacist, Stephen Miller as well. I think the only way this works is also, I think, what Democrats have to be doing. I get
Starting point is 00:08:31 politicians showing up doing media as well, but they also have to be putting a face on this. Putting out there, Dr. Bishop William Barber always talks about show impacted people. I think that's also critically important, so people understand that when we talk about, you know, government shutdown, furloughed workers, people not working, those are individuals, those are families as well who are being impacted. Absolutely, Roland.
Starting point is 00:09:00 We know that federal workers, many of them, are living paycheck to paycheck, and they are showing up every day to help us. I think about Sandy. Sandy's a constituent of mine. She actually helps families manage through their Medicare. I had to call Sandy for my dad. I was so grateful that she was able to answer my call and help me navigate the Medicare system for my dad. Oh, my God, if Sandy's furloughed or not able to work
Starting point is 00:09:25 and help other families like mine. I think about so many students who are on GI bills who now are getting letters saying that, you know, they're not going to get their benefits. I'm thinking about so many of the mothers that I see in the doula classes in my district, you know, who have to deal with the potential, of maternity wards closing because the hospitals don't have the money to keep the doors open.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I think about the thousands of folks that I saw last week that are working at St. John's Community Health Care Clinic. It's a clinic that services, you know, a lot of L.A. County, 10 million people roll in. And A, their jobs are in jeopardy if reimbursement stop. And B, thinking about all the folks that are not able to go to them anymore because they are looking at their health care cuts, at the health care cuts happening or health care costs doubling. These are families that look like yours and mine. I've been to the WIC offices.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I've seen the mothers with the new babies, the young mothers with the new babies, and they're trying to get, you know, diapers, and they're trying to get baby formula. What have they done to deserve this? What do you say to the person who says, you know what, this doesn't affect me? I'm unbothered. you should get bothered. A, if you're a Christian, you should be bothered. B, three-fourths of A, C.A, Obamacare, Medicaid enrollees are in red states that Trump won. So this isn't just about, you know, hurting Democrats. It's about hurting Americans. You are impacted, even if you're
Starting point is 00:11:05 not on any of these health care services by the government, because your premiums are still going to go up because the insurance companies are going to have to raise your rates to cover for what they're not getting because the government has shut down and because these cuts are coming. You know, I'm not on any of those services, but the doctors that I see get reimbursed because of the patients that are on Medicaid or Medi-Cal in California or Medicare. And I want to go to see my doctor, but if my doctor has to shut their doors because of all of this nonsense coming from, you know, the Trump administration, then we all hurt. And let's not forget, we're also talking about jobs, hundreds of thousands of jobs that are in peril.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And then we could go on about how Donald Trump is continuing to attack black people. That's a whole other conversation. But everyone's impacted by this, on top of the tariffs, the cost of living going up, you know, your insurance costs, doubling. So they need to negotiate with us, and they know they need to, but they also don't know how to eat humble pie and come out of this hole they dug for themselves and figure out when it's, It's time to start fighting for the American people rather than bowing down to Donald Trump. I do want to ask you about farmers. We have seen a lot of these red state farmers whining, complaining about how they are losing money and how they're getting screwed because of terrorists. And it's hard to say, but I literally said the hell with them.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm sorry. If you are in Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, if you are in Ohio, all those states in Arkansas, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, they all voted for drunk. So when they vote, they voted for this. And so what's crazy to me is they want Democrats. Oh, they want Democrats to bail them out. They want Democrats to stand with them. And I'm going to be honest, y'all are not going to get rewarded. These folks aren't going to remember that.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I remember the first stimulus bill of Obama. He saved the asses of Elkhart, Indiana. Numerous, those towns of Indiana were for stimulus. Did they support him? Nope. Nope. They did not. And so to me, I, hey, this is where hashtag, we tried to tell you,
Starting point is 00:13:45 y'all go talk to them because that's your savior. That's your cult leader. He screwed you. Not only this time, but he did you last time. Did y'all forget? Yeah, this is the find out phase. I'll tell you, Roland. I had a strange experience.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I had someone from Mississippi come to my office, and a businessman has an investment, has a plant in Brazil. You know, Brazil is being hit hard with these tariffs because Donald Trump is ragged with Bolsonaro, you know, rather than the entire country of Brazil makes absolutely no sense. And the man from Mississippi said, well, can you help? Because I know you're on foreign affairs. And these tariffs are terrible. And I said, you know, I think you voted for him. So I don't understand why now you're complaining. And if these are going to hurt you so much, these terrorists, I don't know why you're talking to your, why you're not talking to your representatives from Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:14:43 What do they have to say? And he said, well, the Republicans, you know, it was crickets. They didn't have anything to say to him. So he was coming to a Democrat. And, you know, we had a real honest conversation about that. And the farmer's role, and you know, now Donald Trump is saying, oh, we're going to give some money back to the farmers, but you wouldn't have to do that if you were not tariff, if you hadn't put these tariffs out there, which are actually only impacting and hurting American consumers and producers. So, in fact, Donald Trump is saying, I'm just going to give your money back to you rather than giving you any additional help, A, and then B, real talk. Is this money actually going to go to local real farmers, people that we're thinking about, like the guy in the overalls, milk and the cows? Or is it going to go to these big agro businesses? And that money is not going to help the small people that we're talking about. So they need to have real conversations about what's really going on and how this money is continuing to be stolen from the coffers of the taxpayers, you know, our coffers, and really sort of shuttled into the bank accounts of the
Starting point is 00:15:49 super, super, super rich at the expense of everyone else. And everyone else has to ask themselves, why do they continue to want Democrats to bail them out when they keep voting against their own self-interest? Yep, I'm with them. Go talk to your people. Go talk to Cindy Hyde Smith. Go talk to Marshall. Go talk to your people. Go talk to them and see what they can do because that's who you keep voting for. That's what I told. told him, he was so sad. He looked at me. He looked at me. He was so sad. And that's what I just keep thinking about. Right. And I just think, it's like, I'm sorry. You're not going to sit here and vote against your
Starting point is 00:16:25 interest, but then you want Democrats to bail your ass out and you want to keep rewarding them. And then I love us here. Oh, well, we didn't vote for this. Yeah, actually, it came with it. It came with it. Yeah. It all came together in one package. It's not like, Oh, no, no, I voted for this, not that. Yes, you voted for all of it. You voted for all of 2025, and it was in there, and everyone kept telling you about it, okay? And they do have a section in there
Starting point is 00:16:53 about what they're going to do to farmers, about how they're going to erode the USDA, about how they're not going to give subsidies, about how they want to shut down the small farmers and make everything, you know, go to the super big agro businesses. They talked about all that. They want your food to be more expensive.
Starting point is 00:17:07 They want it to be less fresh, and they're not looking out for you. So at the end of the day, folks decided to vote for Donald Trump because they were afraid of voting for a black woman. And now here we are in the find out phase and everything that she predicted would come true is happening in real time. And folks are running to Democrats saying, will you save us? Now, obviously, we're fighting the good fight for the American people, but we have to shade you to help you see the error of your ways and to let you know that no one can stomach
Starting point is 00:17:37 this long term. This chaos to the Constitution, to our democracy. to our rights. It's unsustainable, and it's also unnecessary. This man has never said he loves this country. And we have the most incompetent, unqualified, racist, and bigoted cabinet in the history of this country. And I'm even including Reconstruction Days. So we have to continue to talk about that. We have to continue to talk about why is Pete Heggsatz saying diversity isn't our strength? And then yelling at folks because of their weight when we are are making ourselves less safe with allies abroad? You know, why are we letting Donald Trump say crazy things about tariffs in this economy and not actually trying to figure out how to
Starting point is 00:18:23 look out for the American people? Why is Donald Trump actually lying and saying that he's going to, you know, not provide back? Michael Lewis here. My book The Big Short tells the story of the buildup and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely but lucky people who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Isman. We fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding.
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Starting point is 00:22:06 part of this pushback too well we know they've sold out for Donald Trump so I mean that that ain't happening that ain't gonna happen they've told you shade oh oh I will be at I believe in shade
Starting point is 00:22:22 they call me King Petty for a reason so I'm absolutely about throwing shade towards them all right comics woman I appreciate it thanks a lot Always good to see you, Roland. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Thank you very much. All right, folks. Senate Minority Leader, Chuck Schumer, got a chance to talk to him. We had last time he was on the show was five years ago. We caught up talking about this government shutdown and the expectations people have for Democrats. Here's our conversation. Senator Schumer, glad to have you here. It's been a while since we had you, but glad to see you.
Starting point is 00:22:55 First off, and I've been around the country a lot the last couple of weeks. And what people have been asking me, very simple. Are the Democrats going to cave? How strong are y'all going to stay in this shutdown? Well, look, they've tried five times to force us to vote on their partisan bill that doesn't do a thing to help people's health care, and we have stayed strong. The reason is very simple, Roland. This bill, the Republicans have done such damage to the health care in America, in America, for people in so many ways. by a trillion dollars of cuts in Medicaid,
Starting point is 00:23:34 the most we've ever seen, by refusing to extend the ACA tax credits next year, which will cause the average Americans premium to rise $900 a month. That is the average working family pay $900 a month. And by the way, if you're older, you pay even more. A couple making $80,000, and who is 55 years old couple will pay $25,000.
Starting point is 00:23:58 So the American people understand, we've been working for three months, talking about this, that we have an obligation to make their health care better. Rural hospitals are closing. Families are struggling. Nursing homes are telling their patients that they have to leave because there's no money. There's no Medicaid money. And vital research that helps us cure cancer and deals with issues like Alzheimer's and diabetes.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Gone. And so this is very, very bad for America. And Democrats are fighting strong, fighting hard. fighting united. We have our senators every day this week. We were on, I think we had 85 different appearances on various media shows. We're letting America know how bad this is. And we're letting them know that the Republicans want to take away their health care so they can give tax breaks to the billionaires. And that message is resonating. So our caucus is strong. Absolutely. And look, one of the other issues that we're seeing, we were seeing these
Starting point is 00:25:01 farmers out here talk about how they are being impacted by these tariffs as well and I make, listen there's a whole bunch of these folks complaining in red states, they voted for Trump and they say we didn't vote for this and I'm like, so this is all a part of the same thing. His policies are negatively impacting
Starting point is 00:25:18 the American people and these farmers, they want Democrats to helpfully bail them out and I'm sitting there going go talk to the people you voted for. You got it. You know, he said the number one thing in facing America is just higher costs. higher costs for groceries, higher costs for electricity, higher costs for health care,
Starting point is 00:25:36 higher costs for cars, buying a furniture or formula for the babies. And that's the number one issue. On day one, Trump said, I'll get your costs down. Well, they've gone up and up and up because of health care, because of tariffs, because of what he's done with electric rates, because he's done so many bad things. And you're right, the people who voted for Trump are now realizing how bad he is, extending these A.BA tax credits, you know, which would raise people's rates, $900,000. $55% of the people who voted for Trump, Roland, want us to extend those credits because they want them.
Starting point is 00:26:14 They need them. They can't live without it. And, you know, this is not just money. It's life and death. It's estimated that if his health care cuts go through, 51,000 people will die this year. At least, that's a horrible thing. Yeah, I mean, I had someone who's a panel that's on our show, whose sister or whose cousin died and really died from poverty, lack of health care also when it came to, you know, not being able to have proper nutrition. And this is where, you know, I've been very aggressive and challenging these so-called conservative evangelicals
Starting point is 00:26:51 claiming they love Jesus, but it's amazing how they vote against the policies that Jesus would have supported. You betcha. And the bottom line here is that we are fighting this fight tooth and nail. And we're doing a lot better than people think. You know, everyone thought, oh, boy, Trump will win. He'll blame the Democrats for the shutdown. Well, first, they're causing the shutdown by not even negotiating with us.
Starting point is 00:27:13 The bill that Johnson sent over, he sent over a bill that had no democratic input. And he said, take it or leave it. Can you believe this when a government shut down? He sent the House members home. So the House members are getting paid and not working, but our federal workers are working and getting not paid. It's the exact contradiction. And so the American people know that it's the Republicans causing the shutdown. And the Trump voters know that Republicans causing the shutdown.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And it's not over just a political fight. As I said, it's life and death. It's people's health care. You know, a mom whose daughter has cancer and now she's getting. treatment and they cut that off because it's from Medicaid, what is that what I'm going to do? I've got to ask you this here. I've been, granted, you've got some
Starting point is 00:28:03 2025 races coming up, but a lot of people already talking about 2026 Senate races. We saw in North Carolina more than 600,000 black voters who did not vote in 224, more than a million in Georgia. Texas, largest group of black voters in the country,
Starting point is 00:28:20 and you've got a Senate race there as well. And I've got to tell you straight, one of the great issues that I the concerns that I have, and I'm being very frank, are too many, frankly, Democratic, white democratic strategies who are playing black people small. And when I looked at the Mandela Barnes race, when I looked at the race in North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:28:40 as well, too often what I'm hearing is that, the same thing happened with, in the Texas race, and I was, you had a candidate who was sitting here a congressman, Colin Allred, who wasn't, they were not targeting African-Americans at all. this is a huge issue that it needs to be addressed the investment and the time and attention
Starting point is 00:29:02 spent on black voters and I don't think you're going to have a shot at winning seats in 226 where you have a lot of black voters if these same strategies keep playing the same game are you and others talking to them say they've got to change how they are targeting key democratic voters
Starting point is 00:29:17 especially black voters we have Corey Booker as head of our SEC and he is focused on bringing in black voter, not black voters only, but black consultants, black influencers and people who reach out to the community. All too often Democrats miss that. We have Raphael Warnock, who's active in our DSCC, Democratic Senate Campaign Committee,
Starting point is 00:29:42 doing the same. We have a woman who's from the community, Jessica Henry, who's in charge of giving out a lot of these contracts. I'll give you one other interesting thing. It's related to what you say, but not direct. We have a chance to elect the first African-American U.S. Senator in Mississippi in a very long time. This man, Scott Collum, was nominated to be the first African-American judge in Mississippi, federal judge in a hundred years, and the incumbent woman in Senate, Hyde Smith, blocked him using the blue slip.
Starting point is 00:30:19 He's running, and we're going all out. I have Derek Jackson of the NAACP working. I have Romero of the ACLU working. We're all working there. And if people are listening from Mississippi or are friends and relatives in Mississippi, we can win this seat. But we'll only win it, as you say,
Starting point is 00:30:37 by reaching out to the community from people who know the community. Well, I'm glad to hear that because that's one of my biggest issues of whether it was Sherry Beasley or Colin Allred or Val Demings and some of the other races. It was driving me crazy. as I was talking directly with their campaigns and was getting very little feedback.
Starting point is 00:30:56 And so, again, that's a lot of people are paying attention to. And we've seen the black voter drop, especially with black men, and there has to be a very specific, targeted effort to reach African-Americans. It's a lot different than what we've seen in the past decade, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:31:11 No question. We're going to do it. All right, Senator Schumer. Appreciate it. I know you're busy and look forward to having you back on the show. I look forward to coming back and take care and good health, Rowling. All right, likewise. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Air Force, we're going to go to a break. We come back. We want to chat with my panel about that conversation. You're watching Rolla on the Black Star Network. They said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are a threat, so they erase. them. After the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, Republican legislatures moved fast. New voter ID laws, polling place shutdowns, purges of black voters from the rolls.
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Starting point is 00:32:47 and the only thing they can think about is how many people they can hurt. and they got the power, that's the time for mourning. For better or worse, what makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority. We are at a point of a moral emergency. We must raise a voice of outrage. We must raise a voice of compassion.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And we must raise a voice of unity. We are not in a crisis. of party versus party. We are in a crisis of civilization, a human rights crisis, and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what? You've been chosen
Starting point is 00:33:32 to make sure that those that would destroy, those that would hate, don't have the final say, and they don't ultimately win. Hello, I'm Bishop T.D. Jakes, and you're watching Roland Martin, unfiltered. All right, folks, let's bring in my panel.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Dr. Mustafa Sautago-Leave, former senior advisor for environmental justice, the EPA out of D.C., Randy Bryant, entrepreneur, author, speaker, creator of the truthing game, also out of D.C., Joe Richardson, civil rights attorney out of Los Angeles. Glad to have all three of you on the show. Mustafa, I'll start with you. You heard with Senator Suma there had to say, and also representative,
Starting point is 00:34:17 though of that. Look, Democrats got no choice but to fight, and they cannot afford to buckle at all. No, they can't give one inch because we understand that the Republican party never does. They actually continue to take and take and take.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So they've got to stand up. They've got to make sure that they hold in this moment because people are actually counting on them. Because since they are not in control of either of the three branches of government, this is their moment. This is their moment to actually show folks that they are serious, and that the vote that they are trying to garner from them actually will be well protected. So in this moment, we will see if Democrats actually make sure that they have a spine, if they make sure that they stand up for working class folks across our country and our most vulnerable communities, and the truth will be in the pudding, as they say.
Starting point is 00:35:10 What has to happen here, Randy, they have to stay on the offensive every single day. He talked about, you know, different media hits. Listen, it has to be around the clock beginning at 5 a.m. going until midnight. They got to be hitting on all, just pounding away at Republicans. They do. To be honest, I haven't heard enough from Democrats right now. I would like to see more of them in the news. I feel as if the Republicans have become so professional at lying that the rhetoric that
Starting point is 00:35:47 the Democrats are responsible for the shutdown is taking hold. And so I really do. I'm like you. I want to see them around the clock talking and something you mentioned earlier. Let American people talk show how this shutdown is affecting everyone. I've seen a lot of news about what's happening with the airlines. People are also already being affected just on their day-to-day lives. So I think we need to highlight that and make it where they're relatable stories.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So the humanity of what's happening behind these votes. And they have to, have to stay strong with this vote. I've never seen a bully conquered by giving up or giving it. And Joe, listen, the air traffic controls this is an issue. And you've got to highlight stuff like that. the stuff that impacts regular, ordinary people, that to me has to happen. Right, for sure. You know, let people understand that at Burbank Airport yesterday.
Starting point is 00:36:49 There were no air traffic controllers at some point. Michael Lewis here. My book The Big Short tells the story of the buildup and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely, but lucky people who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become, and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Isman. We fed the monster until it blew up.
Starting point is 00:37:17 The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan, there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release, and a decade after it became an Academy Award-winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The big short story, what it means when people start betting against the market and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, is as relevant today as it's ever been, offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics. Get the big short now at Pushkin.fm slash audiobooks or wherever audiobooks are sold. When I smoke weed, I get lost in the music.
Starting point is 00:38:04 each instrument, the rhythmic bass, the harmonies on the piano, the sticky melody. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, careful, babe. There's someone crossing the street. Sorry, I didn't see him there. If you feel different, you drive different. Don't drive high. It's dangerous and illegal everywhere.
Starting point is 00:38:26 A message from NHTSA and the Ad Council. Here we go. Hey, I'm Kelpen, and on my new podcast, here we go again. We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions. Like, are we heading towards another financial crash
Starting point is 00:39:03 like in 2008? Is non-monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lily Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to here we go again with Cal Penn starting October 21st on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you
Starting point is 00:39:38 get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
Starting point is 00:39:53 What was that? Oh my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL, visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. That's a very practical way that this shutdown is going to affect people. Let these
Starting point is 00:40:26 health care premiums hit. This is right about the time where folks are getting noticed of what their new premiums are going to be, and they're doubled to triple in some cases, in more cases than there ought to be. Let that hit, let that sink in, let that be the narrative so that people understand the practical effect right now of what it is that's going on, and then they become much more clear, all the more clear and understandable what the Democrats here are fighting for, because I'm going to tell you this, if they fall and the premiums go up two to three times, the Republicans are going to find a way to blame the Democrats for it. Now, this is a whole thing got passed with no Democratic support, the big beautiful bill and whatnot. And that's
Starting point is 00:41:07 what actually did it. But it doesn't matter what's truth and what's not true anymore. Republicans will seize a narrative in a second. Make up information. But you can't make up the fact that somebody doesn't have something that they're used to being able to have, whether it's the ability to pay for their health care, the ability to go to work, earn a check every two weeks, This first partial check ought to be hitting this week where people are going to be missing money and they need to continue to hammer on that narrative and say, this is why that is happening.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And this whole, oh, you know, you better bring us back or we're going to get rid of jobs. You've been getting rid of jobs since January 20th. Let folks know that this is what they do and this is what they'll continue to do and this is why we're fighting. Well, stop, for the point I raised with Senator Schumer regarding in these 2026 races.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I'm dead serious. These white Democratic strategists have been screwing up when it comes to reaching the black folks, black vote. The advice they've been given these black candidates has been absolutely awful.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And Schumer and others had better get the message because they're going to continue to get their asses kicked if they are abysmal when it comes to reaching out to black voters. And that means spending money
Starting point is 00:42:25 on advertising, spending time, resources. The game plan they've been running before. It's just idiotic. It don't work anymore. It most definitely doesn't work. You know, there's a quote that I was raised on and says, don't tell me you love me, but show me you love me. Because every time folks get in front of cameras, you know, they say one thing. But when it comes to making those smart decisions about not just engaging with black voters, but making sure the infrastructure is there. And part of that infrastructure is actually
Starting point is 00:42:59 the business side of the equation and making sure that you're hiring black consultants, that you're hiring those folks who can actually help to move the needle. So I'm past the rhetoric. I don't want to hear that. I want to make sure that those dollars are coming back to our communities for the folks who have the expertise who know how to reach us, who know the issues inside and out. And if you're not serious about that, then you're not serious about our vote. And that's exactly where many people who I'm talking to actually feel.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So if you want our vote, then show us that you love us by your actions. Randy. You know, it just seems to me that, you know, I was a DEI person. And so, of course, I have to go back to this. I don't understand why they think people who have never really engaged with the black community probably have not even had a black friend because three out of four white people do not have a black friend that's been proven that how those people would, you know, map out a plan to reach black people.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I don't understand why they would think that those people would know what our concerns are. And so it's insane to me that it wouldn't be logical to them that they would have to have diversity, they would have to have black people on staff to talk about how they're going to reach black people.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It just seems common sense. There is no way that we can stick with the old pattern of hiring these all-white consulting firms to reach out to a very, diverse country. And they need to wake up to what this country is now and what the people need. And Joe, I'm going to keep lighting their ass up about it.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, and this time around the republic is at stake, right? It's been at stake in being chipped away at for quite some time. And we all need to collectively and individually hammer them and say, what are you doing? I'm from L.A., but today I'm going to be from Missouri, so you got to show me.
Starting point is 00:44:55 What are you actually doing? How are you addressing this. Let me holler at all of you moderate Democrats that decide to jump on the anti-woke train. Let me holler at all, yeah, okay? And let me know. So what are you doing and why am I voting
Starting point is 00:45:11 for you and why am I not supporting you getting primary? You need to show it to us because the fact of the matter is the black vote is the reason why Democrats have one office when they have, particularly in the presidential side, et cetera, in the last
Starting point is 00:45:26 40, 50 years. So you better show me something because otherwise you're going to have a serious problem. All right folks going to a break. We'll come back. We'll talk with Steve Perry about his battle to open a new school in Connecticut. They are going tooth and nail
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Starting point is 00:48:35 Hi, I'm LaBelle. Crawford. I ain't wear a bowtie out today because I wanted to breathe. And you're watching. Roland Martin unfiltered. Folks, we talk about education in this country. We know it absolutely matters, and what we have seen have been highly successful charter schools that, frankly, should get an opportunity, and my estimation, to do more. But what happens when you have politicians who are hell-bent on stopping that from happening? That's what Dr. Steve Perry is dealing with with his charter school next year. work. He is battling in the state of Connecticut. He joins us right now. Steve, glad to have you
Starting point is 00:49:19 back on the show. Explain to people what the heck is going on there with you trying to educate more of our children. Thank you so much, Roland. I deeply appreciate this opportunity. You got me at a truck stop. I'm coming back from my schools in Harlem and the Bronx going back to Connecticut. But the state is breaking the law. Literally, the state, Department of Education through the commissioner is breaking the law. The law clearly states that the General Assembly provides money to the State Board of Education and the State Board of Education is supposed to disperse those funds. As you've seen it, any other request for proposals, the State Board of Education put out a request for proposals in 2022. They said
Starting point is 00:50:08 they want to see who could operate more charter schools in the state of Connecticut. We put in a request for proposal. We answered the request for proposal. We were chosen as the number one school, the number one school. But through some backdoor dealings and scalduggery, they thought that they were taking capital prep out of the budget. But in fact, it wasn't the General Assembly's right to do so. The only people who could take us away in this situation was the actual Board of Education.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And right now, through some very disappointed, behavior by the state's commissioner, that's Charlene Russell Tucker, and quite frankly, their attorney, a man by name Mike McKeon, they've decided to take away the opportunity that we've earned. So we're the number one applicant and, Roland, check this out. Our school is 100% black and Latin in Bridgeport, 100%. We had the number one high school in the state of the state of the state of the state of Connecticut for preparing children for four-year colleges.
Starting point is 00:51:17 So we have the number one application and we have the number one performing high school by way of preparing children for college. So we got justification on top of justification. They've broken the law and they know they've broken the law and I have the receipts to show that they have. So tomorrow there is a public hearing in Connecticut again where they're going to announce that they didn't break the law. So here's something really interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Roland. The State Department of Education's attorney, his name is Mike McKeon, wrote a letter in part with the governor's office. They didn't mention that it was he who had written the letter. He used that as the foundation for his judgment to say that he, in his role, now as the state education department's attorney, has decided that he didn't break the law. So he said that he didn't break the law. And we're asking the State Board of Education to say, enough is enough. This school deserves to open. The school, the school would serve all children, but the problem in Connecticut, like so many other states, is there's such a disparity between the performance of black children and white children. And this particular town, this is town called Middletown,
Starting point is 00:52:32 Connecticut, my actual hometown, though. So the percentage of black children are reading below grade level or half is, I mean, twice as that of white kids. I'm sorry, go ahead. So I'm confused here. You're number one. So this isn't like the number four or five ranked saying, hey, this is unfair. You're number one. What the hell is the rationale?
Starting point is 00:52:59 And this is what I've always said. And I've been very clear. And when I launched school choice is the black choice. I said point blank that if there are. traditional public schools that are killing it, study replicated. If there are charter schools
Starting point is 00:53:20 killing it, they should have an opportunity to expand. If there are traditional schools that suck, got to go. And if there are charter schools that suck, they got to go. So, what I don't understand is, and go to my iPad, Charlene Russell Tucker, the Education Commission,
Starting point is 00:53:41 That's a black woman. So this black woman is fighting a charter school that is successfully educating black and Latino kids. Because the, here's where it gets really goofy, Roland. So the state senator from one of the towns that this school would, uh, draw from is a woman by name of Jan Hockadel. That's important to understand. Jan Hockadel is a state senator and the president of the state's teachers union. I want to repeat that again. You just can't make this stuff up. Jan Hockadel is the president of the state's teachers union and she's also a state senator and she went into the budget with the Senate pro tem,
Starting point is 00:54:36 Marty Looney, and they decided they were going to pull capital prep out of the budget. But here's the problem rolling. They don't have the authority to do so. The law says that the General Assembly gives the money to the State Board of Education who then offers grants. And if there's two or more schools, one or more schools approved in the same year, but they're awaiting funding and there's not enough money, then the State Board of Education is supposed to select which schools is funded first.
Starting point is 00:55:03 We're the number one applicant. We're number one, and we're number one in our other school in terms of overall performance and preparation for college. In fact, Roland, our school in Bridgeport, Capital Prep Harbor, 100% of our children have been accepted to four-year colleges, not just for the past 10 years from that school, but they're already. That school already had 100% acceptance at the end of August. So you have a school founded by Black and Latin people that's serving Black and Latin people. that's outperforming the wealthiest white of schools in the state in some of the wealthiest white schools
Starting point is 00:55:38 in the United States of America and Charlene Russell Tucker, a woman who does not, who's never worked in a K-12 school, never. She is not a certified teacher. She's not a certified administrator. She has no certifications ever. Nothing. So she has allowed herself
Starting point is 00:55:54 to be put out there as a puppet of the teacher's union. Now here's the second part is the vice chair of the State Board of Education I won't by name of Aaron Bynum. She's also a local president of the teaching union. So you have a state senator, president of the teachers union.
Starting point is 00:56:12 You have the board co-chair, who's the president of a local teachers union, combining to create a law jam. And here's where the problem lies rolling. That you break in the law. It's not even whether you like me or don't like me or you like our schools or you don't like our schools. You like child's schools. You like child schools. The law clearly states that the state General Assembly gives money to the State Board of Education to disperse for grants for charter schools. Now, Roland, you've seen requests for proposals or RFPs all over the country, right?
Starting point is 00:56:46 They're scored, right? That's what they do, right? A department puts out an RFP, either the highest score or the lowest bidder is awarded the contract. It's just simple. That's what should happen here, but it's not what is happening. And for them, the most important thing to happen is for them to keep this under wraps so people don't see. The last thing that Russell Tucker wants, and right now, even the governor, Holden, I'm fighting the governor. So there's a Democratic governor, a black woman who's the state commissioner, I mean, state commissioner. and I'm fighting them.
Starting point is 00:57:28 So you mentioned in our community. So you mentioned Charlene Russell Tucker. Who was the person you said was the vice? Who was the number two? Hold on. So the vice chair is a woman by name of Aaron Bynum. Aaron Bynum was,
Starting point is 00:57:43 watch this rolling. Aaron Bynum was the Teachers Union president in Marriott in Connecticut. Aaron Benham. So go to my iPad. This right here is Aaron Benham. Y'all, this is who she is. This is her right here. And the state rep you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:58:01 this is her right here, Jan Hockadel, the deputy-majority leader. Both teachers, unions, precedents. Michael Lewis here. My book, The Big Short, tells the story of the build-up and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely, but lucky people who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become and eventually made billions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:58:25 from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Eisman. We fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan, there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release, and a decade after it became an Academy Award-winning movie,
Starting point is 00:58:48 I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The Big Short Story, what it means when people start betting against the movie, market, and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, it is as relevant today as it's ever been, offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics. Get the big short now at Pushkin.fm. slash audiobooks, or wherever audiobooks are sold. When I smoke weed, I get lost in the music. I like to isolate each instrument, the rhythmic bass, The harmonies on the piano
Starting point is 00:59:25 Sticky melody Hey Hey Hey Careful, babe There's someone crossing the street Sorry, I didn't see them there If you feel different
Starting point is 00:59:37 You drive different Don't drive high It's dangerous and illegal everywhere A message from Nitsa and the ad council Here we go Hey, I'm Cal Penn And on my new podcast Here We go again
Starting point is 00:59:52 We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions. Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08? Is non-monogamy back in style?
Starting point is 01:00:23 And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lily Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to here we go again with Cal Penn starting October 21st on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh, my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the I Heart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Both from Meriden. You know who else is from Meriden? The former Secretary of Education.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And so these people together are working, not the secretary, former secretary, but I'm saying that they're all from the same town. They're being allowed to stop a school, but more important than stopping a school, more important to stopping a school, they're breaking the law. It's just that simple. So we sat down, Roland, I'm going to tell you the whole truth. So back in last fall, we found out that they were breaking the law. So I called the commissioner. I called her.
Starting point is 01:02:14 And Roland, she has said to me, you know, you've done these things too with people. People say, hey, Roland, you ever got a problem with me? You just call me. Just call me. Don't go around me. So I called her. Commissioner Russell Tucker I just want to point something out to you
Starting point is 01:02:28 I think y'all broke the law and she said well what are you talking about I said it says here that the State Board of Education is supposed to select with school respondent first not the General Assembly you're the State Board of Education so you're supposed to choose not the General Assembly
Starting point is 01:02:41 she said we've never done it that way before I said this look I don't think you should say that too many more times because you really are breaking the law and I don't want that to happen for you So she says, well, you know, no one's ever said this to me. No one's ever shown me.
Starting point is 01:02:57 We just never done it this way. I said, listen, here's what I'm saying to you. Please, we have a really elegant solution. The money's in the budget. It's really easy to solve this problem. Just put us on the board agenda, follow the law, and approve the school. Because the school's already been selected as the number one applicant. So you already did that.
Starting point is 01:03:17 You picked us number one. You sent us over to the General Assembly as number one. they did some backdoor stuff said that they're not going to fund us but they put money in there for a charter school which has to go to the number one school regardless of what they say it has to go to the number one school she said you know what
Starting point is 01:03:32 I got you let's let's see what we can do I'll work with you I got the text messages to prove it like you do I keep the text messages right and so when I when we start talking again she got a whole new attitude what we found we did a FOIA
Starting point is 01:03:48 she had been talking to those two the Jan Hockadel, the state senator and union president like we have the poya, we have the she was communicating with them. Yep, that one right there and we know that she was communicating with another person as a union shill, his name is
Starting point is 01:04:06 Matt Lester. And the two of them got A ratings by the teachers union and the last thing that they want is my black behind and open another school in this state. They don't care that we're educating children. They don't care that we're taking children who are two, three, four, five grade levels behind and putting them in college by the time they're seniors. They don't care about that. What they care about is they want to stop, me in particular, for us in general, even if it means they're going to
Starting point is 01:04:33 stop creating opportunities for children. Let me tell you something, Roland, that Aaron Bynum, the vice chair said. So we were in a meeting recently, we were in a hearing recently, and she said to me, and she said, what happens if the kids don't want to go to college? I said, hold on one second. You said, hold on, Steve. You said they were talking with Matt Lesser and the other state senator? Yeah, Matt, yeah. Okay, all right, go to my iPad.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Go to my iPad. All right. Matt Lesser, I'm going to tell you story about Malice and Sufford. But she said, well, what if they don't want to go to college? I said, the name of the school is capital preparatory school, like we're a prep school. If we were a Votech school, then you would ask that question. I said, but what you don't ask is these wealthy white schools, whether or not the kids don't want to go to college.
Starting point is 01:05:18 This is the mindset, brother. They don't care about our children. This is straight garden variety, embarrassing, grotesque politics. Matt Lesser, who you see right there, started to claim that he was Latin in order to get into the Black and Puerto Rican Caucus. I can't make this stuff. It's going to make it up.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Straight culture, culture. So, yeah, really. The question from the panel. Jell, I'll start with you. Well, brother, you know, I appreciate what you do. doing. You've been doing it a long time. But talk about, if you can, is this is, if this is something that you often see, the folks that are supposed to be, you know, when it comes to this, it seems to me it's important to make the point that this is not necessarily just a Democrat
Starting point is 01:06:04 Republican thing. Anyone who's establishment and is entitled can, you know, try to muscle out someone who's earned a place, who's earned a right, we know what you've done from a career standpoint. We know what you've done in other places. And then you come in number one, and the quote liberals, the quote, you know, pro-teacher union folks are trying to rub you out. Is this something that you see often?
Starting point is 01:06:31 And what does this say about just the challenges that you face in terms of delivering this incredible service of high expectation and high achievement to black and round people? children? The single most consistent obstacle to us, to our operation is the Democratic Party most specifically liberals. And it doesn't matter what color. It just doesn't. Wow. It just doesn't. And now, let's be clear. I'm not saying that the Republicans are on our side. I'm just telling you that in a state where the governor is a Democrat, where the state senators from this district are Democrats, and where we have proven ourselves. I didn't say this rolling earlier.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Capital Prep and Bridgeport serves 100% black and Latin children, but I didn't tell you this, almost 70% poor. We're one of the poorest, blackest schools in the state, and we are preparing children for college at a rate. higher than every other high school in the entire state. That's not my opinion. That's based upon the state's own assessment. That's them. I didn't say that. That's them.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I couldn't say it if it wasn't so. It's called next-gen data. And so they put together all the parts. That means our kids are taking college passes while still in high school. We have an eighth grader taking college passes. He was 13 years old. So one of the hardest parts about this role, is when I talk to the children
Starting point is 01:08:10 and I say to them, just like so many black fathers do, you got to be twice as good. And then they say back to me, but Dr. Perry, we're number one. What happens even when you're number one and people are supposed to be on your side don't share the support?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Because that's really what's happening here. It's so important that we understand. I'm not coming with hat and hands saying, please, will you give us a shot? We've been sending kids to college at a rate of 100% for 20 years. People act like that's a thing, like that ain't no thing. 100% of our Latin children graduated from high school last year. 97% of our black children graduated in four years last year.
Starting point is 01:08:56 This is from our school in Bridgeport. And 100% of our special needs children graduated. And all of those were accepted to four-year colleges, every single one. So if all the black children, all the Latin children, special needs kids had gone to one of our schools, all of them would have graduated last year. Explain to me how anybody could call themselves an educator or even somebody who cares about black and light children and stand in the way of anyone who's doing that, anyone at all. Show me an example.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Like, how can you dare say that you care about our children, yet you're standing in the way of a proven commodity, proven? We're not some project that you need to take a look at. We're in the game. And for the record, there's no long line of people who want to do this work. There's no long line. There's a teacher shortage. So you know, damn what?
Starting point is 01:09:44 There's a founder's shortage. Steve, before I go to Randy with a question, you said that you also are fighting the governor. Go to my iPad, Anthony. Governor Ned Lamont. Explain that. Governor Ned Lamont has, for reasons that are beyond my comprehension, allowed himself to be put in the middle of something. really ain't got no problem, no business doing him. He's going to struggle right now to win
Starting point is 01:10:11 his reelection campaign. He is not someone who has deep connections to the black community, not at all. And we're right now organizing black people from the biggest cities in the state, black pastors, black with moms, parents, and community leaders. He doesn't need this smoke. He really doesn't. He's going to face, even in his party, a very very much. He's a very very likely primary. And he is not, he's a very, very wealthy man, and he was able to self-fund his campaign, but in this state that claims to be blue,
Starting point is 01:10:49 I look around here and see a whole bunch of Trump signs. I mean, they're everywhere. So why would he jump in the middle? So what he's allowed himself to do is to weigh in on something that he didn't need to weigh in on. He said basically, he's going to laugh at this one, while the law says what it says
Starting point is 01:11:07 what they're attempting to do is to quote a former state legislator who had an opinion that never made its way to the law like just floor debate they just put so they're saying that the floor debate means more than the actual voting upon law
Starting point is 01:11:23 all right so here's you go I'm running out of time I got the candidate for the new owner's mayor coming up next Randy Mustafa quick question quick answer Randy go Dr. Perry just thank you for all that you do to help Quick question, quick question. I need a quick question.
Starting point is 01:11:37 My guess is waiting. What's one thing that people can do to support you? Reach out to the governor, sis. Thank you so much. Reach out to the governor and tell them, let our people go. Let me just try to open a school. They open more weed spots than they do school. We just want a school.
Starting point is 01:11:54 They can keep opening their weed spots. Mustafa. Thank you. Dr. Perry, what's your formula for success? Love? We love our kids as they're our own. They mean everything to us and the people who don't love our children don't get to work with them for very long, but we love our kids.
Starting point is 01:12:15 It really is that simple. We genuinely from our soul love our kids. So folks, these are the folks who Steve named, go to my iPad, Governor Ned Lamont, the Connecticut Governor, come on, Governor Ed Lamont, Allstate, State Senator Matt Lesser. you have here this board vice chair
Starting point is 01:12:36 Aaron Benham you also have the the secretary of the board but also Commissioner there Shirley Russell Tucker and then of course
Starting point is 01:12:46 you have State Senator Jan Hockadel we're going to be putting calls into all of them inviting them come on the show to explain all of this Steve Perry I appreciate it man
Starting point is 01:12:54 thanks a bunch what time is this form tomorrow so we're going to be there 430 in North Haven, Connecticut. So the form starts at 4.30? It does, sir.
Starting point is 01:13:07 All right, so let us know if it will state they're going to be live streaming that so we can grab that stream. Thank you. All right, appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. Folks, got to go to a break. We come back.
Starting point is 01:13:19 We'll chat with another one of the candidates running for mayor of New Orleans election in Saturday. That's next. Roland Underfiltred on the Black Star Network. On the next Get Wealthy with me, Debra. Owens America's wealth coach, we talk about the principles of mindset, strategy, and execution. This week, we're adding a fourth.
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Starting point is 01:14:18 He's from Texas. Ain't his fault. Folks, Saturday is the mayoral election in New Orleans. and there are a number of candidates who are running. It has been an extremely, an extremely active early voting period as you've seen a lot of folks turning out for an early voting. But again, now it all comes down to who could turn the voters out on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Yesterday we featured City Council Member Oliver Thomas. He is one of the top three candidates who's running, City Council Vice President Elena Marino, also there. but Louisiana State Senator Royce DePlessis is also in the top three. He joins us right now. I'm glad to have you on the show. First and foremost, what is your main priority if you are elected mayor of New Orleans? Thank you for having me, Roland.
Starting point is 01:15:14 My main priority is to keep New Orleans in New Orleans. We've lost over 20,000 people over the past four years in New Orleans, Rowling. That's one of the top and the greatest loss of population that any other city has seen in the in that amount of time. So we have to keep people here because people are packing up their bags and people are leaving the city. So, you know, if we continue down this trend, we won't we won't have the city that we know and that we love. So it's about prioritizing the people who are here and while we can still have all the festivals and the events to keep people coming from around the world, the people who live here and who pay taxes here who are from here don't need to
Starting point is 01:15:53 feel secondary to visitors and tourists. Okay, but see, you want to keep them there? How? How do you do Housing, housing, housing affordability. So my plan over the course of 10 years, Rowland, is to develop and preserve 40,000 affordable units. The reason I say 40,000 is the experts tell us that we actually need 47,000. So they say, Roy, stop saying 40,000. It's too ambitious. It's too bold. I said, no, we have to do it because as you and I are having this conversation, 30,000 are being squeezed out of the city.
Starting point is 01:16:21 The cost of living is too high. So I want to develop and preserve 40,000 units over the course of 10 years. We put a plan in place. I'm going to hire the position to create the office of the chief housing officer that will facilitate what we just passed, which is a... Michael Lewis here. My book The Big Short tells the story of the buildup and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely, but lucky people who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become
Starting point is 01:16:51 and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Eisman. We fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan, there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release, and a decade after it became an Academy Award-winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The Big Short story, what it means when people start betting against the market, and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, it is as relevant today as it's ever been,
Starting point is 01:17:30 offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics. Get the big short now at pushkin.fm. slash audiobooks, or wherever audiobooks are sold. When you're high, you feel different. You think different, you talk different, you draw different, you listen to music different,
Starting point is 01:17:53 but you probably knew that. Problem is, you also drive different. and not in a good way. That's why driving high is illegal everywhere. So if you're high, just don't drive. Make a plan to get a sober ride. Because if you feel different, you drive different. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Here we go. Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, Here We Go again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions. Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08?
Starting point is 01:18:50 Is non-monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes or early. We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lily Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to here we go again with CalPEN starting October 21st on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh, my.
Starting point is 01:19:41 We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL, visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Housing Trust Fund to go towards affordable housing. We're going to have roughly $20 million annually to leverage to put towards affordable housing investments. So that's critical role.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And we have to deal with the issue also of homeowners insurance. I want to create a local fortified roof program to supplement the state program, because what we're going to do in Orleans Parish is if we get more people with fortified roofs that can withstand hurricane force winds, that can also help bring down homeowners insurance for people across this city. So housing is number one priority.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Obviously, but in order to have housing, you've got to have a job. And so how you look into grow the economic base of New Orleans when, frankly, you're so dependent upon two things, petrochemical as well as tourism. Yeah, so we're not as dependent on petrochemical as we once were. In fact, New Orleans lost significantly back in the 80s during the oil bus. But as you're right, it's been primarily tourism. I'm a believer that we have to play up our strengths, Roland. And two strengths that we have, number one, is the fact that we are a port city. We were built alongside the river. We are a maritime city. So the port of New Orleans also presents a tremendous opportunity. Currently, there is an investment underway that will create, it's a $2 billion investment for the expansion of the container terminal project. That will be jobs for distribution, warehousing, logistics, jobs on average that pay $80,000. We look at Jefferson Parish. We look at St. Tammany Parish. Both just got Amazon distribution hubs. Those Amazon
Starting point is 01:21:43 distribution hubs and other businesses like that can go in places like New Orleans East that desperately needs and deserves economic investment. That's a strength that we already have. We don't have to go out and attract new industries because it's already here. We just have to lean in and grow it. Also, health care. I talk a lot about the redevelopment of charity hospital. You know, Roland, since Hurricane Katrina, Charity Hospital has not been touched. But we have what's called the Bio District. That can redevelop and reimagine downtown, a lot more investment there in health care jobs, biotech jobs, bioengineering jobs. That's a prime opportunity. And those are the strengths that we have to play up. And then we can lean into other, other industry.
Starting point is 01:22:24 industries like aerospace. We see Alabama and Mississippi benefiting from investments in aerospace, but port expansion as well as health care are two industries that I think we can really grow in. I ask Councilman Thomas the same question. I'll ask you. How do you deal with the reality of corruption? You're dealing with the mayor right now who's been indicted. You've had previous mayors that have been indicted going to prison.
Starting point is 01:22:51 You've had council members. Councilman Thomas was involved. in the bribery situation. What do you say to the public when it comes to the need to trust that people who are elected are not going to sell them out for personal interest?
Starting point is 01:23:09 Building and regaining trust is at the forefront of what we all have to do as elected leaders. When we go out to the community, when we go out to a church, when we go out there and ask people to vote for us, We are asking for that trust.
Starting point is 01:23:25 And as you have pointed out, unfortunately, there have been one too many instances of where that trust has been broken. What I will do as mayor is ensure that I'm transparent. I will ensure that I never overpromise. And if there's something that I can't do, I will be honest. And I can accept the criticism. But it's important that we protect that trust because you know how it's impacted voter turnout. a lot of our people don't vote because they just, they don't trust the leadership. So I recognize that, and I'm sensitive to that, and a large part of why I'm running
Starting point is 01:24:02 and why I chose public service is because I want to restore a sense of nobility to public service. I want to restore some faith in the leadership that people send to work on their behalf. Questions from my panel, Mustafa, you first. Yeah, well, thank you for joining the show. I lived in New Orleans before. I've worked in New Orleans. There's about a 25-year life expectancy difference between zip codes. I'm curious how you will help to make sure that that no longer is the reality.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Well, you've been doing great work over the years, Mustafa. Look, when I was at Howard University School of Law, I founded the Howard Energy and Environmental Law Society in large part because of the work that I saw that was being done at the Environmental Protection Agency and seeing how different neighborhoods were being impacted by environmental racism and environmental injustices that have historically impacted our communities. And we saw that happen and that being unveiled in the rawest way during Hurricane Katrina. I believe that if we go to the communities and we're closest to the problems where the problems exist in our communities and we focus on addressing those needs, that's how we can best solve the problem.
Starting point is 01:25:21 And the inequity gaps, I'm sorry, well, the equity gaps that exist in New Orleans only have grown over the past several years. So I believe it's important to be proximate to the problems. When you talk about life expectancy, we have children in our community that are dealing with intergenerational trauma. We still have food deserts throughout our community.
Starting point is 01:25:42 We still have one of the worst maternal mortality rates. in the country throughout the state of Louisiana, but that's also pronounced in places like New Orleans, but I will prioritize the city's Department of Health and ensuring that we are always equity-focused and equity-driven, employing best practices so that our people who are suffering the most get the most attention. Randy? We've seen that the numbers are higher than normal when it comes to early voter turnout this year, which is great. What are you going to do in the next week to ensure that people show up
Starting point is 01:26:22 the polls on Election Day because the two aren't always correlated? Yeah, they're not always correlated, but I think it's a great indication that people are ready for change, that people want new leadership, people want a different style of leadership. So my plan is to be as visible as I can, encouraging everyone to vote. What I always say is obviously I want people to vote for me, but I want people to just to vote, understanding that this is their voice, this is their right, that don't give it away, right? Keep the enthusiasm. Before I came on the show, I was out in the hot sun waving signs in the middle of traffic. I want people to understand that the change starts with them showing up at the ballot box. We also have a charter
Starting point is 01:27:09 amendment that's on the ballot. In addition to the mayoral election and the city council election, we have what's called the second chance amendment that will protect individuals who've returned home from prison, who've served their time to ensure that they're not discriminated against for housing, employment, and education. So we want people to be aware and educated about all these things that are on the ballot. And the fact that we have more than double of the turnout for early voting than we had eight years ago is a clear sign that people are excited and they're ready for change. And we're going to work from sunup to sundown, even after sundown, to remind people
Starting point is 01:27:47 of the need to continue to show up and vote. Joe. Thank you. So mayors are on the front lines as it pertains to a relationship with the federal government. Ideally, they would be a positive relationship. There's a lot of opportunity for collaboration, et cetera, moving towards common goals. But you know what we're dealing with in Washington and what mayors are seeing. Tell me how you would deal with Washington, D.C., stepping in areas that they shouldn't
Starting point is 01:28:21 trying to provoke and pull things down on cities that are inconsistent with the city's growth, with the city's health, et cetera. Take us through that and what you do. see there. Thank you. So I currently serve in the Louisiana Senate, and the Louisiana legislature is basically a microcosm, and it's very similar to what we're seeing up in Washington in terms of this current administration and the MAGA agenda.
Starting point is 01:28:54 It's fully in play, so I've had to navigate a very hostile climate and stand up and defend the city of New Orleans, protect the city of New Orleans, advocate on behalf of the city of New Orleans. What we see and play out throughout the country in majority black cities, cities that have black leadership, cities that are majority Democrat. Right here in the city in New Orleans, you all are probably aware that the governor requested 1,000 troops, federal guard troops to be deployed throughout Louisiana, but only in New Orleans, Baton Rouge, or Shreveport. So what I would say, to the governor, and what I have said to the governor, and what I will say to the president
Starting point is 01:29:37 is that we welcome support. We want support. But the way that we want support is you ask us how we can best serve our communities. Los Angeles spent $120 million on federal troops. Do you know what we can do with that kind of money, investing in New Orleans Recreation Department, investing into the housing developments that I'm trying to talk about, that I'm talking about, investing into economic development and job opportunities for young people, we know how to solve crime in our communities. And while we've had a recent spike over the past few days, crime is down in the city of New Orleans. But we know that this is a larger play that has nothing to do with crime. It's about power. It's about trying to show force
Starting point is 01:30:18 of militarization in cities. We want to employ community policing throughout the city of New Orleans so that the people in New Orleans know who's patrolling their neighborhoods, not unnamed federal guards that are patrol the neighborhood. So I would want to concede to have that conversation with this administration, but it unfortunately is going in the direction that it shouldn't be, and I'll have to stand up and defend my city. As is here, you've got your current and former member of Congress, Cedricic Richmond, Troy Carter, both of them are endorsing Helen Moreno.
Starting point is 01:30:57 And so I've heard from people to say, hey, that black politics. in New Orleans is split. Some say, hey, who cares? We don't necessarily need a black mayor of New Orleans. What do you say to folks who say that? Well, others believe that it's critically important to continue black leadership as the mayor of New Orleans. Well, the first thing is that I say everybody has a right to endorse
Starting point is 01:31:22 who they want to endorse. But of the list of people that you name, they don't speak for the entire black community. So let me say that there. And I'm proud to say that I have a ton of black leadership support from Congressman Cleo Fields, strongly endorsed from Congressman Fields. I have the endorsement of former Mayor Sidney Badalemi. I have the endorsement of the first black Chief Justice of the Louisiana Supreme Court, Burnett Johnson, who I used to work for
Starting point is 01:31:49 and is my mentor. But outside of that, I'm proud to say that I have a plethora of endorsements from black leadership in the city of New Orleans. As it relates to the conversation around whether or not the city needs a black leader. Look, let me be clear. The city of New Orleans is still majority black. And during these times where we're seeing attacks on black leadership, I think it's important to point out that representation still matters. Now, do I think somebody should be elected mayor just because they're black?
Starting point is 01:32:19 Absolutely not. But I do believe when you have qualified, competent black leadership, we should be always working to promote that and identify that and identify and promote that in cities that are majority black. I think it's important. And with that said, everybody has their choice. But I think in these times, we need to be cognizant of what is going on throughout this country. And, you know, people fought for us to have this representation.
Starting point is 01:32:45 And it's something that I take very seriously. And I'm proud to have the support of many, many, many black leaders in this city. And ultimately, it's going to be the support of the majority of the people of New Orleans that I'm seeking, not just black leadership, but all the voters of New Orleans I'm seeking their support. All right, Senator Roaston Plessus. We appreciate it. Good luck on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Thank you. All right, folks. Going to the break. We'll be right back. Rolling Martin on the filter on the Black Star Network. We'll talk about the case out of Louisiana of the young man, the former LSU football standout of Kyron Lacey.
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Starting point is 01:33:52 Back at a moment. They said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are a threat. So they erased them. After the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, Republican legislatures moved fast. New voter ID laws, polling place shutdowns, purges of black voters from the rolls. Trump's Justice Department didn't stop it, they joined in. In 2018, his DOJ backed Ohio's voter purge system, a scheme that disproportionately erased black voters, their goal, erase black votes and political power.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Yeah, that happened. These are the kinds of stories that we cover every day on Roland Martin unfiltered. Subscribe on YouTube and download the Black Star Network app. Support fact-based independent journalism that centers African Americans and the issues that matter to our community. If in this country right now, you have people get up in the morning, And the only thing they can think about is how many people they can hurt, and they've got the power. That's the time for mourning.
Starting point is 01:35:06 For better or worse, what makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority. We are at a point of a moral emergency. We must raise a voice of outrage. We must raise a voice of compassion. And we must raise a voice of unity. We are not in a crisis of party versus party. We are in a crisis of civilization, a human rights crisis, and a crisis of democracy itself.
Starting point is 01:35:41 And guess what? You've been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy, those that would hate, don't have the final say, and they don't ultimately win. Hey, what's up, everybody? It's Godfrey, the funniest dude on the planet. And you're watching. Roland Martin unfiltered.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Louisiana State Police, they are pushing back on allegations from the attorney of the late Kyron Lacey that he was not close to the accident where he was charged. They have, this is what they, this is, first of all, they put this video out because on Friday, his attorney said that Kyra Lacey had nothing to do with this. Folks have been calling for a local, federal investigation as well. And the footage, troopers claim all evidence points to Lacey's reckless driving and a green Dodge Charger as the trigger for the chain reaction that killed 78-year-old Herman Hall. Investigators also noted later...
Starting point is 01:36:45 Michael Lewis here. My book The Big Short tells the story of the build-up and burst of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely but lucky people who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Eisman. We fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan,
Starting point is 01:37:13 there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release, and a decade after it became an Academy Award-winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The big short story, what it means when people start betting against the market and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, is as relevant today as it's ever been, offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics. Get the big short now at Pushkin.fm.fm slash audiobooks or wherever audiobooks are sold. When you're high, you feel different. You think different, you talk different. You talk to. different, you draw different, you listen to music different, but you probably knew that.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Problem is, you also drive different and not in a good way. That's why driving high is illegal everywhere. So if you're high, just don't drive. Make a plan to get a sober ride, because if you feel different, you drive different. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. Here we go. Hey, I'm Kelpen, and on my new podcast, Here we go again.
Starting point is 01:38:27 We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions. Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08? Is non-monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lily Singh, and Bill Nye.
Starting point is 01:39:08 When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to here we go again with Cal Penn starting October 21st, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero.
Starting point is 01:39:37 We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh, my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Jones and Drew Franklin on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. She called a personal injury attorney less than 10 minutes after the crash. Here's a body cam video released by the state police from the crash scene. That's a great, my respect. I don't have a weapons incident in Circle K, 7 in the row. What are you having your hand?
Starting point is 01:40:42 What are you having your hand? Showing hands. To be advised. We got total road blockage on LA 20. That's on point. If you get a chance, can you advise? Can you advise code of injury? Civil.
Starting point is 01:41:16 He had no charge. Head on. Did you still three charges flying that way? A green charger that was going that way? I did not. There was a green charger that caused all this. S.R.T.8, he called all of it. He went to pass the cars way back there, sir.
Starting point is 01:41:29 The green charger collided with these cars? He went right with the truck, okay? He was passing up in this way. And she had no choice. She hits the broken. What's... How are the injuries? She got a broken ankle.
Starting point is 01:41:45 She got a broken ankle. I'm playing it on back injuries and then and stuff like that. So two back injuries been broken out? Yeah, I'm not, I just saw him not to move, you know what I'm saying? You said something about a green charger. Who told you something about a green charger? I'm going on 18-1 right there, sir. Okay, so you saw it?
Starting point is 01:42:04 So what did you see happen? He went to pass him, I'll say, when, uh, he went to pass in cars back there. You back there and run, um, um, um, around the, um, uh, around the curve, all right? Okay. He come down, right? When he come down, I got Mr. .
Starting point is 01:42:23 He had his brother that was that he was taken to the emergency room, to hospital or something like that, came over, something like that. But I got his number also to verify this, because he was the car that was in front of her. When they green charges came, he went cause his whole big traffic so everybody with the hitting brakes,
Starting point is 01:42:39 because the, I thought he would get the missed on the gold truck head on. So he jammed on brakes. She was coming down. They was going that way. when I saw... Which way was the charger going? The charge was going this way. She was coming this way.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Okay. They was going this way also. Mr. D. Mr. D. She went to Dodge, Mr. D. And that's when she came on. He hit them on the left side. She come over and hit him.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Which 18 wheel were you driving? The rebel. So the charger, I guess, passed you up? The charge of B-line. It was cars behind me because I'm going to take my time. And the charger passed all. It was passing all these cars in this line. And so almost hit this one head-on
Starting point is 01:43:18 It was a gold truck I got his number right here That's why I take his number in his name Almost hit the gold truck head-on Yeah That this is number and phone number of names So the gold truck What did the gold truck do?
Starting point is 01:43:31 The gold truck in these area right here The gold truck slams on brakes Stop the charger The charger swore's back in Okay Because somebody else off Whoever was behind them Okay
Starting point is 01:43:41 But then they slam the They was on no The charger He swore it in front of them They slamming on brakes. And by this time, Mr. B. He slips through, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:53 As he slips through, she's coming. She's like to ram the back of the, um, the go truck. That's what I said. She almost hit the back of Ms. Bucke's. Yeah, on Ms. B. Bucid was Mr. Bucke. No, really. He was missed. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:06 So, the truck, Mr. B. He slammed on a heat. The gold truck is right up there. Right. He slams on his brakes to avoid the charger. Yeah. This car, what? Because their car out, probably.
Starting point is 01:44:19 If I'm not mistaken. So what is this car? Do it just swerves out the way to avoid? She turned. Because I was watching it, too. She turned the wrong way. Instead of going close the post, she turned this. Okay, so she turned this way, and then this car was just coming ahead.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Yeah. I got you. And then the Georgia came around. That's the norm. That's the normal for it. Yeah, it was in the gold truck. Okay. The Georgia passed in between the mailbox in there.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Yeah, the charge just stopped. That's good because he was. That's good because he was. hit me. No. Okay. And see what happened to charge that stopped. Is it a green charger?
Starting point is 01:44:52 Yeah. It's a green charger. When he seen what happened, he almost hit me because he came right here and kept on. He's the only one that he was worried, only one that jumped out of the trailer. Everybody else hung around with the other way. He jumped out of the truck and eased through here and went on down the road. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Look, um, I know it's hurting right now, but do you think you could just tell me briefly what happened? Or do you remember? I just know the truck. the truck. It was stopping them breaks. The other car was trying to pass the other car. I was trying to dodge by not hitting them by coming around. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Do you remember how fast you were going? The speed, lady. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Lacey's family attorney released separate surveillance footage, arguing it proves Lacey wasn't responsible for the wreck and was nearly 80 feet from the crash at the moment of impact.
Starting point is 01:45:45 The Louisiana NWACP released a statement that reads in part the Louisiana State Conference of NWACP is calling for the immediate resignation of Colonel Robert Hodges following his public attempt to justify the actions surrounding the death of Kairn Lacey. NWACP is urging citizens across Louisiana to stand with them in demanding accountability from state leadership. Members of the public are encouraged to contact Governor Jeff Landry and Attorney General Liz Morel to voice their concerns and support this call for change. Michael McClanahan is the president of the NWACP, Baton. He joins us right now.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Michael, glad to have you here. So, okay, so now we have conflicting video. We have the attorney releasing the video on Friday. Now we have the state police releasing this video today. Your assessment? Well, you know, they should have, you know, the state police is the chief law enforcement officer in the state. The premier law enforcement agency.
Starting point is 01:46:45 Why didn't they release this earlier? Why didn't they do due diligence? Because we're suspicious of the state police when they issue anything anyway. You know, we still have fresh in our minds, the run of rain matter, the Erin Bowman matter, and other matters like that in which they did slack in police work. And so when you have a death like this here, a traffic accident, and you have so many moving pieces, they should have done due diligence. let us know what was going on. But they didn't. Now they're trying to backtrack and cover their
Starting point is 01:47:19 tracks, but it's too late now. Suspect police work. All right. So, again, for y'all, what now? Well, you know, we believe that if they have hidden stuff initially, that they got some more evidence that they're trying to hide. You know, they don't want to let it be seen that they did sloppy police work, and that we will be forever questioning their abilities and their sincerity and their truthfulness. And so if they don't do that, we believe that you have to start with the head, with the top people, you know, because the people at the bottom is only good as the leadership.
Starting point is 01:48:03 They sound like it is pissed, excuse me, bad leadership. So all the way down, the change of the command, at the very top three levels need to be, need to be fired, need to resign. Have you all heard from the AG, from the governor's office, anyone? No, I haven't. I haven't. I have a person.
Starting point is 01:48:25 No one's contacted the NAA or my leadership throughout this region here. All right, then. And have any response so far from, again, the attorney for the family as a result of this new video being dropped. Well, no, but what has happened,
Starting point is 01:48:47 Roland, is that, you know, we've started to get information and started to come in based upon just that one statement we made, we've gotten some information that was not privy to anyone, as I believe earlier. And, you know, it's almost seems as though this case happened, this accident happened a few months ago. This accident happened a few minutes ago,
Starting point is 01:49:07 or some while ago. And so to get information that we got coming in, clearly somebody hasn't done their due diligence. And so this is a wake-up call. This is a wake-up call for people in the state of Louisiana. If you want justice, if you want to be heard, you have to bring what you got to the forefront. And so we're doing that now because we're going to cover the truth and the matter. We're going to determine, we're going to find out what happened and what should have happened in this particular case
Starting point is 01:49:38 so that we could have eliminated some grief. at one of both ends in this matter. All right then. Well, Michael, we appreciate it, and we'll certainly see how this develops up. Appreciate you, Roland. Thank you always for your time. And, you know, we really appreciate you this weekend, man.
Starting point is 01:49:57 I've got more calls, man. I've got it for Halloween or Thanksgiving. So thank you, brother. Well, glad to hear that. And glad we had a soda audience on Saturday there in Baton Rouge. Most definitely appreciate you. and stay strong. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Thank you very much. All right, folks. We're going to go to a break. We'll be right back. Rolla mark non-filtered on the Blacksat Network. On the next get wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's wealth coach, we talk about the principles of mindset, strategy, and execution. This week, we're adding a fourth.
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Starting point is 01:50:58 only on Black Star Network. Hello, hello, hello. I'm Jerry Johnson from Harlem on Prime, and you're watching the Black Star Network. Folks, folks, I've seen some crazy-ass police video. This is one of the craziest. This comes from Leon County, Florida. So, y'all, a deputy, hold on, a deputy. This dude is pumping gas. And while he's pumping gas, a deputy is driving by.
Starting point is 01:51:54 And all of a sudden, rolls up on him, pulls his gun out, because he said the guy had a weapon, but it was the gas pump. This took place at a Circle K in Tallahassee. Y'all, watch this. That's a very much much much. I don't have a weapons incident circle K, seven from the row. What are you having your hand? Show me your hands.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Okay. Okay. Stay in the car. Okay, turn around. Place your hands by on your back. What are you doing? I'm feeling no gas, can. You understand you're holding it like this, like it's a pistol, right?
Starting point is 01:52:56 No, I was showing that it's cutting the pump on. Okay, but that's not what it looks like to the motoring public on the roadway. I was just showing to the... I was just showing... to the thing to let her know to get the gas. Do you have your ID on you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Okay. Can I turn around? Yeah, that's fine right. Damn. All right. All right. But you understand you're holding it like this and it looks like a handgun, right? No, I'm just, I'm trying to let her know to pump the gas, bro.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Okay. Why you, what the fuck? You just pull the gun out of the car. Yeah, you can sit in there for me But they're like hell up the fucking... Yeah, I'm ten for, sorry. There's an individual who had something that looks like a gun in this hand, that out was really important.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Yeah, I'll be on top. Wow. I'm going to get your back. You know I'm going to get a lawsuit on you. Okay. They're showing it later. That's okay. My home, sir, I'm got a . Look at this shit.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Look, let me tell you what the motherfucker did this is. I'm getting that, man, I don't go to the hell out there. 5-2-1-7-8-7-4-4-2-4-2. The point isn't there. Yeah. Look, because I held up the thing to let them know I needed the point today. They got camera.
Starting point is 01:54:55 5-21-775. Five, eight seven, four two. Put the hands in there. Put the hands behind the back. What? I'm sure there's cameras. Mr. Rob. I ain't got nothing to say to you, bro.
Starting point is 01:55:08 I ain't did shit and I ain't being detained. I want to go. I don't got nothing to say to you. You know what you did. I don't got no rap. Well, it looks like he's holding the gun. Well, that don't look like no girl. When you see this bitch right here swinging.
Starting point is 01:55:20 I didn't see that, sir. Yeah, you saw what you wanted to see. You saw a motherfucker with tattoos. Why would I be holding the gun like this right here? Hey, who? Man, you saw what you wanted to see you profile. You're profiling. Hey, I look the badge number, though. I need all that.
Starting point is 01:55:39 It's 385. I need it. I need it all right. It's 385. I know what you do. 1650, I'm guessing. We got to be in a big of the world. We got a subject for a lot of in with us.
Starting point is 01:55:59 I don't know. I don't know. We're going to go. Yeah. Hey, how do you know? What happened? So I'm driving down the road, and he's got something black in his hand, and he's moving it like it's a pistol.
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Starting point is 02:00:10 His pump wasn't on, and he was signaling me that the pump wasn't. I'm a producer in Alabama. Okay. Yeah. Just the guy had something in his hand looked like a gun, and I was like, what are we doing? Yeah, I noticed a mess with coming up. Okay. So you saw it with the thing in his hand?
Starting point is 02:00:26 I saw it with the glass pump in his hand, yeah. Yeah, his gas pump wasn't working and he was doing, he was sick on me that, that, that, that, that the, that the, that the, that the, that the gas wasn't on the pump. Is he causing a problem at Charles, y'all store? No, he come in here every day faithfully after work. He come in here and get gas. That's important thing, you know, you're going to cause nothing. Hey, I don't want to hold the gas pump again. You'll, you'll start the gas all the time?
Starting point is 02:00:49 Yes, I will. Hey, what's your name? Woller. You'll sign the statement. You don't get kept. your picture of his thing did. I said I had some. Can I just get your name?
Starting point is 02:01:01 Yeah. J-J-A-E. Yeah. He awarded. How is what? A-U-W. A-U-W. E-O-D-A.
Starting point is 02:01:11 E-R-D-A. Yeah. In front of her. They're back to say with us today. Okay. I'm going to have to put it. And you work for who? I'm Pritchard, Police, Foreman.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Pritchard and Alabama? Yeah. P-R-I-T-C-H-A-R-D. Yeah. Okay. You spelled better at some of the locals we got. Yeah, so what did you see when you pulled that? Come on, man.
Starting point is 02:01:37 You just saw this gas pump up like this. I don't know what he had in his hand. You just kind of raised him it up. I don't know if he was trying to straighten it out or what. Okay. You can see my one-forceman ID? I know a lot of people. I know a lot of people.
Starting point is 02:01:48 I know a lot of people. All right. You have a great day. Thank you. Despite the mistake, the man did not receive an apology from the officer who got into his car and drove away. The Leon County Sheriff's Office has stated that it will review the incident for potential training purposes or further actions. However, there's been no information regarding any possible disciplinary action against the officer involved. Joe, dude could have been shot. I mean, well, you're driving by, look like you had a gun.
Starting point is 02:02:19 How about your ass, how about your ass roll up and let me. me get a better look you literally jump out of your car gun already pulled that's crazy this is this is all of us man listen you know how many of us gone to the gas station you're gonna go get you some gatorade and get you some fritos or something and and you pull up in there give them a 20 and say put the rest on number four right you know you feel me then you go out to the car and you, you know, you pull the thing out and you press the button and it's not resetting
Starting point is 02:02:56 and you're still holding it. You're not putting it back in. You're holding it and you're going like this. You're going. And so it's not in the car tank, you know, and it's not because you've already pulled it out because you expected it to start. And if that's the difference between somebody getting shot,
Starting point is 02:03:20 somebody not getting shot. Listen, we've got a serious, serious problem. It would have been very easy for this guy. I mean, and the guy was, the guy was right. He was tatted up for a second day. I thought he could have been a brother, but I looked like he was a white cat and everything else. And he told the officer, he said, you know what, you saw what you wanted to see? You know what I mean? And what do we do when folks are so uptight? You know, people can be uptight, but police with guns and badges and societies, you know, benefit of the doubt, they can't get it wrong because when they get it wrong, people die. And then it's kind of like this, oh, you know, too bad, so sad kind of thing. He cannot miss like that because all of us do
Starting point is 02:04:06 that. That could be, and you're trying to stay out of trouble, but you're going to get some gas on the way home. It's not even your option to have the gas pump done by the people that work there anymore. That doesn't happen in but one or two states. What do I do when I'm there? Now, give me a hoodie, right? You know, because I'm coming back from working out or make me look less than
Starting point is 02:04:28 having a suit on or what I'm wearing right now. And then they might be putting something on me to so on watch off. You've got to do something about this because people, police officers, folks with guns and training, apparently, purportedly, cannot make these
Starting point is 02:04:44 types of mistakes. And I'm right there with him. He had the right to be mad as heck because I don't need that kind of grief. Cops rolling up on me. He goes to the gas station every day. You know what I mean? So, you know, that might have been a good question to ask on the front end, figure it out on the front end, drive by and see, okay, the guy's just, he's got the gas pump, trying to get the gas pump to work. It's crazy, though, man, you know, just they preyed up, I guess. I'm sitting here. Dude is just
Starting point is 02:05:19 him pumping it. And he's just getting her attention. And Mustafa, the cops was like, oh, he got a gun. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 02:05:30 I've heard about driving while black, but never gassing while white, which must be a new thing down south. You know, Joe, I mean,
Starting point is 02:05:39 Joe hit it on the head. He laid it all out for you. But, you know, we're talking about profiling, right? Profiling is part psychological. It is about a type that you have in your mind that is less than, that is more likely to have committed a crime.
Starting point is 02:05:54 So that's the dynamic that continues to play out. And until we change that through pressure on police unions and police forces to actually do the additional work, to be able to, yeah, I understand that you have a job to do. But as Joe said, it is a job where you're literally holding someone's life in your hand because you have your finger on the trigger. So I'm glad that this gentleman did not get shot. I'm glad that we are having a conversation about profiling and understanding that folks who come from vulnerable and marginalized communities are the ones who often are the ones that end up falling victim. And, you know, I just pray that nobody else loses their life because a law enforcement officer profile. them and didn't see their humanity before they pulled the trigger or caused bodily harm. That's insane, Randy.
Starting point is 02:06:50 I... Because these... My man is like, I could have been shot getting gas. Right. Right. And because they walk around with guns, we need to stop being so easy on these cops and giving them multiple chances. In my opinion, that cop does not need to be a cop any further. further. One, I mean, he's a little too jittery, the fact that he is thinking the man,
Starting point is 02:07:16 you know, the guy's just getting gas what people do every day. But then it was how he acted after the incident. He was trying to build a case to justify his terrible decision making and his own jitteriness. You saw how he was asking the other cop, well, what did you see? And then he asked the clerk, well, does he ever cause you any problems? Just trying to find a way to create a case against this man who was doing nothing but trying to get gas. And we all know that if the white-tatted guy had been a brother, it could have been way worse.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Let's just keep it real. We talk about profiling. Yeah. You don't need to be a... I didn't understand why he was asking a dude for his ID. Like, why the hell I got to give you ID? It's a gas pump. Why I got to...
Starting point is 02:08:09 I'm telling you. You, yo, when I say these cops are tripping, these cops are tripping, and they, they, yeah, they tripping, y'all. They tripping. All right, let me go to this break. I'll be right back. Roll a little bit unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Next on the Black Table with me, Craig Carter. A reminder that there is always more to a story than meets the.
Starting point is 02:08:39 from book bannings, growing censorship in our classrooms, and the loss of basic human rights. The actual motivations behind those actions and others paint an even more troubling picture than most of us realize. What we need to do is bring this issue front and center to the table because the alternative is that we'll just go down slow, which is no way to go down. Master historian and educator Dr. Gerald Horn
Starting point is 02:09:08 joins us again, and we take a deep dive into the truth behind the headlines of the day and how we might be able to turn the tie. That's on the next black table here on the Black Star Network. This week on a balanced life, parents, teachers, students, administrators, oh my, are you putting in the work seeking to be a teacher, an associate principal, a principal, trying to elevate who you are and where you're going? Our world is changing for veteran teachers. We have to be able to usher in students into a ever-changing, ever-evolving worlds.
Starting point is 02:09:48 If we have this triangular effect, we will create a successful student who will be able to just thrive wherever and in any situation that they're placed in. Join us this week on a balanced life for Dr. Jackie here on Black Star Network. I'm Lisa Colbert, and you're watching The Black Star Network. All right, folks, in our shop, black star network segment, let's talk about what we know, what we know also know is smocks. Now, that ain't what the folks in the healthcare industry call them. We've seen different phrases used, and let's just be honest, for a long time, they've been really damn bland and boring. And we've got entrepreneurs
Starting point is 02:10:53 folks who say, you know what, can we please, like, make these outfits better? And our next guest, that's what they do. So they have a, they have their own line. And, you know, there are several people who I know, and they've really been focused on this. So you're talking about doctors, you're talking about nurses, some of the people in the health care profession. Because what do they want? They want maximum comfort, comfort. They want them to look good, to feel good, and that's what they are all about.
Starting point is 02:11:27 So let's get right into it, y'all. Joining us right now from Maryland, Atlanta, Maryland, our newest product in the Black Star Network, marketplace segment is Dr. Nicky. She's the CEO of and founder of Morgan Taylor Scrubs. She's a licensed physical therapist. So first of all, Dr. Nicky, who's Morgan Taylor? Well, Morgan Taylor is the name of my first baby that I've always wanted to have because my grandmother's from Jamaica and Taylor's her maiden name.
Starting point is 02:11:59 And Morgan, since it's unisex, since I have a men's and a woman's line, And I felt that it was perfect to call it Morgan Taylor because the name of my company is actually freckled LLC since I have freckles doing business as Morgan Taylor scrubs. And I didn't feel that men should be wearing scrubs. It's called freckled. So Morgan Taylor's scroll. All right, then. So you're calling these premium scrubs, okay? So why are they premium scrubs?
Starting point is 02:12:27 Well, number one, it's the fabric. I took a long time to figure out what I wanted. I researched fabric for a very long time. It's 97% cotton, 3% spandex. Okay. And it's also antimicrobial, which means that it limits the amount of bugs you bring home. It's moisture. That's quite helpful.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Yes, and moisture working. And I actually have made designs to fit you so much better. Women with curves, men with curves, or not say curves. You know, scrubs are just not comfortable. They were just made boxy, and they were. ill-fitting, they didn't compliment you, and I completely believe that if you look good, you feel good, you definitely treat your patients the way they deserve to be treated, and that's the mission that I'm on. All right, now, that you also, were you also testing other people you
Starting point is 02:13:18 know, were you also getting their advice and counsel as well in terms of the fit and how things should be? Yes, for years, I've tested the fit, I've tested the fabric, and I listen to what my customers are looking for. They want a lot of pockets. They want something that's flattering that covers them because a lot of scrubs, when you raise your arms up or when you bend down, you show the crack of your bottom.
Starting point is 02:13:45 My scrubs don't do that. I've actually made adjustments in the waistband to make it come up a little bit higher so it keeps you covered while you're working. Okay. And so as you are going through this here, and so as we pull these out here, These are sort of like sweatpants in terms of, in terms of it.
Starting point is 02:14:06 Well, no, in terms of, I'm just, I'm talking about in terms of how they're being made, how they're being, when I'm feeling material, because even a lot of the sweatpants have actually changed, the material that they've actually changed to make them a lot different. And I can definitely tell, look, I play lots of golf. So the moisture wicker, I can easily pick up on that. Mm-hmm. Yep.
Starting point is 02:14:34 Yeah. Mm-hmm. So how many colors you got? So we have... Right now we have six colors, burgundy, black, and gray. We have some blue, purple, and a limited amount of white right now.
Starting point is 02:14:48 Okay. And how have they thus been received? I've been getting nothing but great compliments. It's repeat customers. And I'm getting requests to make different things that I'm gonna be working on, and I'm eager to see what's to come. Okay, all right, then.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Let's see here, questions from my panel. Randy, what you got? So let me ask you that usually the medical professionals buy their own scrubs or do hospitals and doctors offices supply them? Because I'm wondering, are you selling directly to the consumer? Are you selling to businesses? So it's both. Currently, I sell online, and I'm working on getting contracts with hospitals, nursing schools, and regular schools, and that's what I'm working on.
Starting point is 02:15:41 So, yes, sometimes hospitals will supply the scrubs, or you just need to purchase it on your own and also looking to work with the government as well. Thank you. Mustafa. Dr. Nikki, congratulations. Michael Lewis here. My book, The Big Short, tells the story of the buildup and burst. of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. It follows a few unlikely, but lucky people
Starting point is 02:16:06 who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become and eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Eisman. We fed the monster until it blew up. The monster was exploding. Yet on the streets of Manhattan, there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's original release,
Starting point is 02:16:30 and a decade after it became an Academy Award-winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The Big Short Story, what it means when people start betting against the market, and who really pays for an unchecked financial system, is as relevant today as it's ever been, offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics. Get the Big Short now at Pushkin.fm. slash audiobooks, or wherever audiobooks are sold.
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Starting point is 02:18:09 And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lili Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. but my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to here we go again with CalPenn starting October 21st on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones.
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Starting point is 02:19:41 So I currently have not really been hit by the tariffs yet. Once I do make my next order, I'll be able to see what changes will need to be played. but my goal is to not to raise the product price at all. My goal is to keep it where it is as easy as, as much as possible, you know, because I know times is hard right now, and I also want my customers to be happy as well. So once we make our next order, I'll be able to tell what the changes are,
Starting point is 02:20:16 but I do anticipate some minor changes, yes. Mm-hmm, gotcha. Joe? Dr. Nicky, there would seem to be a gaping hole in the market for you to do this, and I congratulate you on doing it. Does it surprise you at all? I mean, people are all shapes and sizes do work that requires wearing scrubs. Is it, does it surprise you that this is just something that somebody hasn't done or that's underdone in any event where, you know, it would really strike a court like it has, sounds like it
Starting point is 02:20:52 but is it a bit of a surprise to you that this lane is available, or are you seeing this type of thing on? I was surprised when I started the business, yes, but I do see that people are making some changes now because the fit is definitely important. You know, not everybody is slim and, you know, tiny. You know, we got to accommodate. Majority of the people are plus size.
Starting point is 02:21:21 And let's be realistic. If you were making scrubs for the majority of the people and it doesn't fit them, they're not really going to feel comfortable in their skin and they're not going to feel good about wearing your scrubs either. So I had that problem. You know, I hated the way I looked in my scrubs and it really did affect the way that I treated my patients. So I was having a conversation with my mom back in 2009 and I'm like, Ma, I really can't stand the way these scrubs fit. And, you know, my mom, who's an entrepreneur herself,
Starting point is 02:21:52 God rest her soul, I miss her dearly. She was like, well, why don't you make your own scrubs? And I'm like, yeah, why not? And that's how it started. Sizes. What are your sizes? Extra small to 4XL, and her pants come in short, regular, and long.
Starting point is 02:22:11 Extra smalls. That's from little bitty people. Yeah, we do have some itty-bitty people who have curbs, too. We can't leave them out. Well, the reason I say little idiot, be the people, so my niece is working, I think she's in a nursing program. She's some kind of medical program. So she'll be rocking these scrubs.
Starting point is 02:22:34 And so I'm quite sure she'll be checking it out. And so last question here. So you have your name on here, Morgan Taylor Scrubs. Are you able to have personalized scrubs where people can put their name on their own name on it? Yes, I have an embroiderer who is ready to do whatever anybody requests. Yes. Okay. All right then.
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Starting point is 02:23:23 So first of all, this is pretty cool. Congratulations on it and good luck with it. Thank you so much. Thank you for this opportunity. I appreciate it. All right then. Thanks a bunch. And so we are glad to hear it.
Starting point is 02:23:41 So that is it for us. I do have one more thing. Let me see here. I'll get the video sit here running so you know it's always
Starting point is 02:23:51 things happening so remember so I was one of my niece this is one of my other little nieces first of all
Starting point is 02:23:58 this was the day so she would so we were in Houston in July let me turn the audio up so y'all can hear
Starting point is 02:24:03 exactly what transpired in this here so check this out stop is the second on this niece he did
Starting point is 02:24:16 Randy hair And this is what it looks like when you're about to take the bar exam in like three days. I don't want to hear that. Well, then why? Stop. It looks like when you take the bar exam in three days. And so my niece, Chloe Marshall,
Starting point is 02:24:34 passed the bar on her first time. So, congratulations. So that means now, yeah, she's not got to pay for stuff. So that free ride is over, y'all. So, see, Joe, that's how it goes. See, Joe, listen, when you're in law school and you're studying, but now you don't pass,
Starting point is 02:24:55 ain't no free ride, Joe. Ain't no more free rides. No, no way that you didn't pass and jump on in the world. Congratulations to her. But here's the part where she gets to kick him, praise the Lord. Oh, absolutely. So, uh-uh, she can't play that. She no longer play that, that little,
Starting point is 02:25:15 I'm in school card, Randy. It's done. It's over. We had to deal with your ass going to high school, undergrad, and law school. That's it. You got a pony up. Well, congratulations to her,
Starting point is 02:25:31 and I'm sorry, I disagree with you. I think that you all still need to help her out. You know, she's going to be... You're going to lost your damn mind. You know I'm going to argue for the sister. What the hell? What the hell we got to help out?
Starting point is 02:25:45 No, no, which part did your ass miss? She passed the, she got, she is a lawyer, a licensed lawyer. You know, but, you know, she's starting out, you know. Oh, hell no. I'm sorry. You lost your damn mind. No, hell no. No, Mustafa.
Starting point is 02:26:07 See, now, now you've got to contribute to the family dinners. Now you've got to put money in. I see that free ride is over. Yeah, well, black excellence comes with a price. Yeah, it's like, like, hey, with a family gathering, and we send your ass to the store to go get some ice and some other stuff, we ain't giving you money. We ain't cash happening.
Starting point is 02:26:27 You now got to pay up. Yeah, well, that's right. She got it covered. And again, shout out to black excellence. We really need to highlight when these young people are just doing amazing things. And I'm sure she's going to contribute to the family because she's a raise. You damn right. She's going to contribute to the family.
Starting point is 02:26:45 and then if she don't, the choke hole, y'all, will be happening again. So don't think for a second, just cut, see, this was going to look like, y'all, when she don't pay up. Oh, yeah, that's right, it's going to be, Anthony, will you please come on? Dog, what are you doing, wake up?
Starting point is 02:27:03 Thank you, I pointed to the iPad, so I'm letting y'all know, you don't pay up, this was going to happen. I was right, that's right, it'll be a chokehold. It's going to be a chokehold. I'm snatching money. I'm snatching money. Roland, can't we all just get along?
Starting point is 02:27:18 Hell no. Oh, hell no. I am the family enforcer. See, everybody else soft. Right. Mm-mm. I jacked kids. I jack kids and young adults.
Starting point is 02:27:38 Everybody get jacked. You got to run that gauntlet. You got to run it. All right, then. So, yeah, so, Lord, congratulations, but now you're paying up. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, now you're paying up. All right, Joe, Randy, Mustafa.
Starting point is 02:27:55 I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Folks, that is it for us right here, Roll-a-Mont unfiltered. Shout to Bowie State. Yes, I'm rocking the Blue State's T-shirt today. I had Southern University on you yesterday, so I wanted to wear the black and gold today as well.
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Starting point is 02:30:36 on the Black Star Network. Folks, that's it. Hope you have a great one. I will see y'all tomorrow. Howell! Michael Lewis here. My best-selling book The Big Short tells the story of the build-up and burst
Starting point is 02:30:57 of the U.S. housing market back in 2008. A decade ago, the Big Short was made into an Academy Award-winning movie. Now I'm bringing it to you for the first time as an audiobook narrated by yours truly. The Big Short's story, what it means to bet against the market. and who really pays for an unchecked financial system is as relevant today as it's ever been.
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Starting point is 02:32:41 Hey, I'm Cal Penn. And on my new podcast, here we go again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask why does history keep repeating itself? Each week, I'm calling up my friends like Bill Nye, Lily Singh, and Pete Buttigieg
Starting point is 02:32:55 to talk about everything from the space race to movie remakes to psychedelics. Put another way, Are you high? Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to here
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