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for D.C. is fighting back. Mayor Muriel Bowser, of course, who was, you know, going forward with their initial takeover, saying they now are overstepping their authority in the nation's capital. What you have now seen is federal law enforcement, even ICE agents, taking people off the streets and arresting them and taking them to court. It's been a whole bunch of stuff. that's been happening in the nation's capital. And now we have an escalating legal battle over presidential authority over the District of Columbia. I want to bring in reporter Lauren Victoria Burke of Black Press USA right now. And Lauren, glad to have you here. So a couple of things, Lauren, first and foremost, this lawsuit, if you will, the city is filing against the Trump

administration. They're claiming they're overstepping their bounds by, in essence, taking over the police department. The mayor says they don't have that authority to command local personnel. Right. And apparently they don't because in court today, in federal court, effectively the government, the DOJ folks got scared and left and they're going to come back. They're going to reword what they wrote and come back. Obviously, their authority is very questionable. A lot of people are asking, well, why didn't D.C. challenge the federal government on Monday and not just sort of capitulate to the idea of this state of emergency thing.

in the first place, which is not a bad question. But at any rate, this round was won by the city of D.C., by the District of Columbia, by Mayor Muriel Bowser and her AG Brian Schwab. They won effectively in court this moment. So the police chief, Pam Smith, is still in charge of the D.C. police force. It is a very questionable and big mystery as to are they apprehending people, who is being apprehended, where are they ending up? And frankly, when I was in court today, it was extremely confusing because I couldn't figure out who was in there in terms of whether it was related to ICE arrest or not or D.C. metropolitan arrest or not.

There were so many people in court that it was quite confusing. But the bottom line of your question, Roland, is that the District of Columbia did win around about 30 minutes ago. The mayor came out and made an announcement effectively that, you know, their police chief is still in charge at this moment. Talk about that what court was like, because you said it was just one of the most shocking things you've ever witnessed. Okay, I was confused, frankly. I usually do federal court-related things because it's members of Congress and federal court trials, et cetera. So I hadn't been in a municipal court in a while. This is D.C. Superior Court.

And for those who may not be familiar, close to the Capitol, in a section called Judiciary Square, there were a number of free. D.C., there's a group called Free D.C. protesters out and about, and I'd heard from one of them that, look, if they apprehended, if ICE apprehended somebody tonight, or last night, I should say, in the last 24 hours, they should be appearing in court at 1.30 in the basement of D.C. Superior Court. Really, the basement section is where a courtroom C.10 is. I go down there. There's a docket listing in an electronic board that goes on forever. At any rate, I go in. And when I say I was shocked, I mean, this whole process is just really shocking. All black defendants, and I understand, of course, that D.C. is 40. It's I think 42% black, but still, you know, there's this feeling of the sausage being made of people's lives being upended by relatively low-level crimes in there, by the way. There's nothing crazy. The judge was really sitting there gaveling everybody into, hey, you know, we're going to let you go and you can come back in 30. days, but they come in shackled.

Everybody comes in shackled. So what was sort of shocking to me it probably shouldn't have been, given the fact my dad was a prison guard at Rikers Island, but at any rate, they come in shackled at the waist and at leg ironed, and as the judge decides what their fate

will be, they become unshackled. But all black men and their families are in the audience, very young, everybody's really young, the family members, the folks coming in. So that was a jolt to me, and it was a shame because, you know, as you may know, Roland, this whole operation that Donald Trump has going on apparently costs $400,000 a day. And effectively, they're concentrating on homeless people.

Well, with $400,000 a day, you could figure out new schools, all sorts of activities, housing, affordable housing. So it's a shame when you watch up close our criminal justice system, what it does to people, it's demoralizing. There's a lot of young people going through that, and it is really sad to why. watch. Well, that is certainly the case. And to your point there, folks don't understand what's going on. I mean, are you having federal charges? Are you having, frankly, state charges, local charges, who's in control, who's doing what?

And so it's a whole lot of confusion. And that's what happens when you do something half-hazard, and you just sort of just throw it together. And even worse, Roland, I went out relatively late last night. In D.C., I decided to drive around and walk around. if I could find the same mayhem we saw on 14th Street, good for the folks of 14th Street, mostly white folks, and what D.C. would call, of course, the gentrifiers out there, but still, they did a good job at really rousing that situation up and getting ice off the street and saying, you know, get off of our streets effectively. But at any rate, I went walking around

the city, very quiet, not much going on. When I was in Uber today, I asked all the Uber drivers, hey, are you seeing checkpoints? What are you saying? Nothing. But one of the open questions about the way that Trump does things is, are these sworn police officers? We don't know that. I mean, some of these people do have insignia and have patches, and some of them don't, and a lot of them have masks on.

So it's an open question in some of these proceedings. Who's arresting them? Is it federal or local? And now you've got Pam Bondi. You have Trump's Justice Department deciding that they want to take over the police force. The question has to be asked, where is that leading?

Take over the police force to do what? So that's what the primary problem. album is here. All right, the laboratory part, we still appreciate it. In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed

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jurisdiction that's not his or hers. States generally have laws about whether that officer actually has authority to do it in that place if he's not an officer that's got, you know, jurisdiction in that jurisdiction normally. So this is kind of that kind of question. I think it implicates some of those questions. And it specifically comes from the idea that Mr. Trump is trying to exercise authority that he does not have constitutionally. And as you've talked about on this show and as I think the guest just mentioned, you know, there's a sovereignty issue, right? D.C. has its own municipal courts. As you know, I went to Howard, right?

And I've been in those very courts myself. And those courts have a field of jurisdiction, and they have officers whose decisions and whose arrest take them into those courts. The idea that the federal government can overstep D.C. sovereignty and say, now we're going to supplant the Metropolitan PD officers there with National Guard or other federal officers who don't normally have this authority is extremely problematic. and it creates the cascade effect because now it just becomes we're just going to grab

all of the authority that we want. You know, Constitution, laws, and customs be damned. And this is a tip of the iceberg, but we know that this is exactly what this administration is attempting to do more and more. Just continue to grab more power and say, check me on it. And that's what we're seeing

happen in real time, to the tune of $400,000 a day, which is absurd, especially from people who have spent so much time talking about waste, fraud, and abuse. This per se waste fraud and abuse. Michael, the Bowser administration obviously tried to placate the Trump administration

when the thing started on Monday, but clearly they recognized the go-long and get-long strategy was not working. Yeah, you know, now, you and I and the panelists know that Maria Bouser is in a different position than other mayors of other cities. But yeah, and she has to walk a tightrope. and I totally understand that.

But, yeah, the goal along to get along wasn't working, like, with the masses of people. But also, I think you have to know when to pick your battles and make sure that you're on strong legal footing to do so. This would be an example of being able to really hit back when you're on strong legal footing. Because the D.C. Attorney General said that the Trump Amendment. does not have the legal authority to put somebody that Pat Smith, Chief of Police, has to report to, okay? So we know Pam Bondy put Terry Cole, the, of the DEA in charge of the police department, and it basically stripped Pat Smith, police chief, of authority to make decisions, things of this nature.

So this is a very good legal argument, and it's this fight here. Rowland, is resonating with the base, resonating, especially with African Americans who want to see them fight back. But if I could just quickly interject here, Roland, one, we all know this is an authoritarian intent by Donald Trump to distract from the Epstein files, number one. Number two, if you really wanted to continue the decrease in crime in Washington, D.C. has made some strides in the past couple of years in bringing down crime. one, he will restore the $1 billion in mental health grants that the Biden administration put in place

because the Trump administration revoked that is $1 billion in grants for promoting mental health in schools. Yeah, but also it's not just Washington, D.C., it's grants all across the country. Cameron, that's the problem here. You can't say you care about crime. I understand one second, Cameron, you can't say you care about. about crime, but then you want to actually cut the actual crime prevention programs. Exactly, Roland. Like, we realize this is all bluster.

This is... Cameron. Can you hear me? Yes, Roland, exactly right. I think this feels like this is... Cameron there? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, Roland. I'm here, here in studio in D.C., and I think from the ground, it feels like this is a powder cake waiting to happen. Like I spent the last few days walking around, driving around D.C., trying to really get a feel for. It's almost like you're living in two D.C.'s there's tanks and Humvees and militaries over at the Union stations and foggy bottoms and a few different black neighborhoods. It's flooding all of our social media and our timeline, but then you also see it's quiet and it's quiet and you walk around the U.S. Capitol and it feels like it's everyday. It's just a normal day in August in D.C. But it feels like this is an attempt and a test, as the other panelists said, to let me try to grab all the power I can, see who tries to check me on it, and then see how many other places I can implement this. Because this is definitely a fear tactic.

Notice he's targeting big cities. These big cities happen a lot to have black mayors. And they happen to be Democratic strongholds. So anything he can do to break that will he's doing. But what I will say, and one I am encouraged by, you see so many people. Just driving here to the studio, I see so many different people of all shades with signs, posters, things to talk out against the Trump administration. So I feel like it's a powder cave way didn't happen because if this keeps happening

and people keep feeling infringed upon, you're going to see massive and more massive protests and more uprising, I think, of people looking to push back against this overreach. All right. go to a break we come back governor westmore maryland he weighs in all this drama he's got a lot to say folks you're watching rolling mark unfiltered right here the black star network back at a moment gosh y'all have got to fix the ifb i literally couldn't hear anything uh cameron is saying uh in studio i could hear got the call i was in the i was in the room he was sealing the deal it's done and i was like man congratulations you know i got

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Folks, Maryland, Governor Westmore has been very vocal about what's happening in the nation. And, of course, he had a news conference today, and he had a couple of words to say to Donald Trump. So while I was in the eastern shore, opening up a new health clinic in rural Maryland, the president of the United States took to the Oval Office to attack me. The governor of Maryland, I watched him this morning saying that, saying that the governor of Maryland, yeah. But I heard him today talking about how the National Guard or the military is not trained in police. And he attacked me because I was critical of his performative decision to put military personnel in American cities to perform municipal policing functions. I served overseas in combat. I have worn the uniform of this country.

And I know what is being asked of these men and women every time we ask them to activate. Our military, we were trained to fight and win our nation's wars, and our national guards are trained to respond when states are seeing times of emergency or crises, not to perform municipal policing functions. So if the president wants to have a real conversation about how to reduce violence, like what we have had in the state of Maryland since I've been the governor, where Maryland has had amongst the fastest drops of violent crime anywhere in the United States of America. I'm ready to have that conversation anytime, Mr. President. Folks, folks, you're on us right now, former Congresswoman, now Mayor of Oakland, Barbara Lee. Mayor Lee, first of all, congratulations on your new job. Thank you. I'm glad to be with you. I miss you, but I'm so glad to be here as mayor of this great city.

and thanks for inviting me to be with you today, Rowland. Well, I miss you as well, but now you give me a good reason to go back to the Bay Area. So we're trying to make that happen as soon as possible. Roland, you've got to come here and do one of your shows, okay? You know we'll roll out the red carpet for you here in Oaktown. All right, well, we'll make that happen. So I'll look forward to that. So we'll work on that on the planning schedule.

Let's talk about this here. You, sir, on the federal level, you now are a mayor. And surely you have significant concerns when you hear the White House talk about taking over cities and things along those lines. And look, a lot of Republicans always talk about local government, big government local control, but that should be worse to many mayors across the country. Rowland, you know what? No one in Oakland knows this man, Donald Trump, like I know Donald Trump. Remember now, I was in Congress 27 years. Four of those years were when he was president. But also, I was sitting on the floor of the House of Representatives on January 6th when he sent in his folks to thwart the peaceful transfer of power. And we barely got out of there. And so this is not a surprise. surprise to me, but it's a wake-up call. I hope for everybody in the country to understand that he wants to militarize our government. He wants to occupy cities, and he wants to dismantle

our democracy. And this is a step in that direction. And so let's use this as a wake-up call. And also, Rowan, you know, he called out Oakland, like he called out of the cities. And it's no secret that all the cities that he called out, one, have large black and brown populations, two, the crime rates are coming down, and three, they're all led by black mayors. And so look at that picture. We all know what this is about. And so we have to understand that he's not telling the truth. He's fear-mongering. And these are dog whistles also that he continues to perpetrate. And in Oakland, we're not going to stand for it. Mayor Lee, I was communicating last night with a national commentator.

One of the things that I said to this person was that, listen, here's part of the problem. It's very easy to say you want to bring down crime. But the reality is that I have interviewed numerous police chiefs, and they will tell you you cannot bring down crime with more police. And so what they have said to me is you have to address the myriad of issues that impact crime. You're talking education, you're talking economics, you're talking poverty, you're talking hunger, you're talking jobs. And so if you want to bring down crime, you go to a mayor, Brandon Scott, and say, how did you actually do it? That's what Governor Westmore was talking about the strategies were. And so it's not as simple as people throw out there.

And I think this is where people get confused where you want to have these bumper sticker phrases when the issue of crime is a multifaceted issue. Yes, it's multifaceted. First of all, we have to deal with the underlying causes and the root causes, and many are social determinants of crime, poverty, lack of equitable and equal education, housing, the cost of living, mass incarceration, you know, police, misconduct, criminal justice. All of these issues are the root causes in our communities. But also, just as in Baltimore, what we have done is we've established several. years ago, the Department of Violence Prevention and ceasefire. And our strategies are very similar to those in Baltimore, where we have, of course, the police to do policing. And the reason the crime rate is going down, though, Roland, is because we have life coaches and we have crime prevention strategies, which provide for identifying those who are most... Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought, that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense? Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during

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someone. And we get to these individuals, these young people, and we provide the pathway out of this in terms of stipends, jobs, job training, housing, whatever is needed. And so it's got to be comprehensive. And that is exactly what Baltimore is doing. That's what Oakland is doing. That's what all of the jurisdictions that the president has cited have in terms of strategies. It may or may not be part of the overall Department of Violence Prevention, strategy, but they're strategies that take into account what you just said. And so, you know, this president, if he were clear and if he were not such a fearmonger, he would say, okay, I'm going to help these communities continue with the trajectory of crime

reduction by providing those resources for housing rather than cutting housing funding. Or I want to make sure that they have educational support instead of dismantling the Department of education. Or he would say, I want to make sure that the cost of living is such that health care is available and people don't have to worry about health disparities and dying younger than other people who have access to health care. And so if he cared about our communities, he would do that. And those would be his policies. His policies are just the opposite. And we know what he's doing. And that is attacking cities, trying to provoke reactions so that they can come in and occupy our cities. And Oakland is just not going to let

that happen. We're very unified, regardless of our differences of opinions on a variety of issues. We're very unified around this. Let's talk about gerrymandering. You have two things. You have political partisan gerrymandering. You have racist gerrymandering. Those things actually take place. Supreme Court has said one is illegal. You see that your governor, Governor Gavin Newsom, is fighting back in a very strong way, launching an initiative to change the lines there. And here's what's amazing to me. 2001, there was a bill in Congress, and the question was very simple.

And that is, do you want to get rid of political, get rid of all gerrymandering? Every Democrat voted for, a Republican voted against. And so we know, we can't talk about fair districts if you aren't doing it fair. And so you're going to have this tit for tat until political leaders come to the conclusion that you have to be able to draw districts in a very fair manner. Otherwise, if it's totally partisan, you're going to see the warfare that you're seeing happen right now, obviously in Texas, and how California is responding. Sure, and I voted for that.

In fact, we still voted, I voted for a couple of times the John Lewis Voting Rights Act. We still haven't gotten that passed by the MAGA extremist Republicans. You know, they, and of course, Donald Trump would never sign that into law. believe you me, gerrymandering is something that takes away political power from people, especially people of color, especially African Americans. And in fact, now the Texas decided that they were going to destroy political power for people in Texas and gerrymandar, then we have to fight back. And we must make sure we level the playing field. And that's what this is about. Now, if these states want to continue with their unconstitutional, institutional efforts to dismantle democracy and voting rights, then we've got to balance that off and make sure that here in California and in other blue states that we, we're that, those states of resistance and those states which are going to protect the right to vote for everybody and for everyone to have voting, have representation. You know, this is really a moment, a defining moment

where we can either just step back and say let them do what they want to do and time will tell or we can fight back. And let me tell you, you know me, Rowan, you know, I'm ready and willing and will continue to fight back against these terrible things that are happening in this country, which impact Oakland directly. Yep. Well, last night I had my unbought and unbossed shirt. So when you've been trained by the Great Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm, you are used to actually fighting back. I want to go to my panel with questions. Matt, Manning, your first? Mayor Lee, my question for you is,

what do you think is the most effective strategy for cities to push back right now on this usurpation of power that we see the Trump administration engaging in? What are your thoughts about the best ways to push back on that outside of the courtroom, which we know is one of the mechanisms you have at your disposal?

Yeah, the best ways are to be unified. We cannot, I think first, we cannot let Donald Trump divide our communities, and we need to make sure that black and brown and white communities stick together and push back. Secondly, we need to speak out about what is taking place and not duck and dodge and not allow the bullying to continue to drive fear into people, because we know that they're talking about withholding federal funds. Okay, what do we have to do?

We have to look at how we address these gaps. locally. Is that going to be through parcel taxes? Is that going to be through new ways of funding the safety net and housing and what he's disinvesting based on our struggle

to push back on the terrible destruction that is being taken? So we have to make sure that people understand that this is not about necessarily a specific city, but it's about a unified national

effort on his part to dismantle this dictatorship and this democracy, excuse me, and to establish a dictatorship. And if we can't say that locally, then we're not doing our job. Michael. Mayor Barbara Lee, once again, congratulations on your win. The question I had for you is that the Trump administration in April 2020. cut $158 million in community violence intervention grants that were going to major cities like Chicago, Washington, D.C., etc., and we know these grants were instrumental in bringing down violent crimes in these communities. And these came from the Biden-Harris administration, actually.

Can you talk about if those grants had an impact in Oakland, California? And if so, can you talk about a little bit how they brought down violent crimes? crime in Oakland, California, please? Sure. I don't want to say, and I arrest my case, but you're saying exactly what has happened. And I was on the Appropriations Committee and also on the Budget Committee, so I was a champion

and helped negotiate a lot of these funds. And so the violence prevention funding, which we received here in Oakland and throughout the country, throughout these cities, that he cited, where he says he wants to, he trashed us, in essence.

These are the cities where crime rates are coming down here in Oakland, for example. Violent crime has gone down by, I think it's 28% in six months. Robberies, assaults, auto thefts, 46%. You can look

at every single category, and the crime rates are going down. And so it doesn't make any sense, first of all, if he were the president of all people in this country and concerned about crime, that he would want to cut efforts that bring crime rates down. And again,

These are cities primarily headed by a black mayor, so we know what this is about. And we're in Oakland, again, we're going to continue with our violence prevention efforts, our Department of Violence Prevention and ceasefire like is happening in Baltimore and other cities. And we're going to stay on this trajectory. Is it going to be tough? Yes. But that's okay. We're accustomed to tough times.

And this man, we need to see him for what he is and call this administration what he is. Finally, I'll just say I was, again, on the Appropriations and Budget Committee all these years, and I saw Project 2025 every single day, and this was part of their playbook. I know their playbook, and this is the, you know, manifestation of that agenda. All right. Thank you for your service. Cameron. Thank you.

Cameron, congratulations, Mayor Lee. So good to see you. We miss you here in D.C. But as a former Congressional Black Caucus staffer, my question to you is that right now, so many of our three of our three largest cities are all headed by black people. We have so many African American mayors, as well as we have the largest Congressional Black Caucus ever. There feels like there is so much power there between the Congressional Black Caucus and the African American Mayors Association to be able to bring so many different people

together representing so many parts of the country, what is being done and what is being talked about amongst your colleagues, both in other mayors, along with your former colleagues in Congress, on how to really rise to this moment? Sure, and this is the moment where we do exert black political power. And I've talked with, of course, the African American Mayors Association, and we're coordinating our efforts. We're looking at how we can support each other, largest black caucus. right and believe you mean we're in the minority right now of course but as a mayor I'm still

organizing to make sure that we elect more black members and more Democrats to Congress so that we can at least while this man is in the White House form this circle this this resistance movement on Capitol Hill like we had before and so we have to coordinate very carefully though we can't say oh that's just Congress or that's just the local governments we have to exercise our political power right now. We see what they're trying to do with gerrymandered, so we have to fight back. We see what they do in terms of trying to put up barriers to registration and to make sure that we're not part of the voting process in terms of disincentives to vote. We have to push back. And so it's about us circling the wagons, both locally,

statewide, and nationally, because we are at the pinnacle of purport. of black political power now. And I think we're clear about that throughout the country. I know all members of the Black caucus, they're out there fighting hard. Black mayors are out there fighting hard. Black legislators are out there fighting hard. So this is a moment that, you know, the glass half full is this has brought us together in a mighty way.

Thank you. Mayor Barbara Lee is always a pleasure to have. We're still appreciated it. Thanks a lot. Rowland, where are you right now in Maryland or in Texas? I know. I'm actually, so I'm actually in Indianapolis, actually Westfield, Indiana. I was invited to the live golf tournament out here.

And so I landed here a little bit earlier when I landed. I did the interview with Spike Lee. And so I'm going to be here all weekend and some other great folks, Mark Jackson, former NBA player and head coach, was here earlier today and got some other great folks are going to be here. So we're going to be hanging out at the golf tournament. and anybody knows this, but right behind

media, the second thing I love most is playing golf, so if I'm on a golf course, I'm either playing or watching. Well, enjoy your break and tell Spike hello for me, and I want you all to come to Oakland. All right, then, so we'll work on doing a broadcast there at Oakland. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Okay, thanks a

million. See you later. Appreciate it. Folks, one of the Republican members of Congress, Kevin Kali, has been really complaining about what Governor Gavin Newsom is doing. So he's introduced the bill to get rid of gerrymandering, but why wasn't he said that four years ago?

Well, Congresswoman Sidney Kamlaugger Doe, she had a few words to say about her fellow California colleague. What are you hearing behind the scenes from your colleagues? So A, Kevin Kylie miraculously came up with this piece of legislation because he realized that his district was

in question. That's about as self-interested as you can be. B, my colleagues, will confirm this. We had our weekly call with our Democratic caucus, and every single one of them was grateful that California was stepping up and fighting fire with fire. They said, can you lean in anymore? Because we need a playbook for how we can fight in our states. The governor is correct. Florida is now in play. Indiana is in play. Missouri is in play. Ohio is in play. And not only are they working to gerrymander the maps to give Republicans more seats, but they are also

doing it to silence Latino representatives and to get rid of African American representatives. So it is not only a classist playbook, but it is a race-based playbook because they know who the folks are who show up and who are voting to keep Planned Parenthood, to keep health care, to make sure that costs are down, to make sure that we have jobs, to make sure that we have manufacturing. So, yes, Republicans are now crying foul, but they were not crying foul when they voted for the big ugly bill. They were not crying foul when they voted to defund Medicaid, when they voted to get rid of Social Security, when they have supported every single thing and have been complicit with every single unlawful, illegal, unconstitutional thing that this president has been doing.

and they have been silent. So don't give me your crocodile tears when all of a sudden you want to come up with a piece of legislation that says, slow your role. How about passing the John Lewis Voting Rights Act? How about calling out Governor Abbott? How about calling out what this president is doing?

If you are so excited about what you've been doing in the past seven months, then run on that record. But please do not come for California and do not come for the vote. because the voters should have the right to vote for who they want to, not to be given, shoved down their throats some janky maps designed to keep this president in power. So, folks are united. Folks are asking California to lean in and do more. And we're saying we are giving you all that we've got.

And we are standing with our governor. And we are asking other states to step in and find a way to do it as well. Because this is not just about California. This is about this entire country. Well, it's not just about California. I'm here in Indiana, and the White House is putting pressure on this state. Republican leaders here to redistrict seats. here. Also, we see it happening in Ohio. Florida is talked about doing it as well. And, of course,

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in terms of how many different state legislatures and state houses and governors are Republican versus Democrat, Democrats don't have the numbers nationwide there. So this is something where we've got to fight fire with, like, lava. Like, I'm really hoping that with those five seats they're trying to pick up in Texas, they find five to seven to eight, ten seats in California. And hopefully, hopefully, as it was mentioned before, bipartisan-wise, they had a chance to outlaw redistricting or stop redistricting before. But now I'm really, really hoping that this is something that our Democratic houses

and our Democratic governors see all that. the way through. If it does pass through Texas, that they do redistrict those five seats. Absolutely. And the reality here, Matt, look, if Donald Trump did not ask Texas Governor Greg Abbott to find me five districts, you would not see any of this that set off a domino effect. And yesterday, former president Barack Obama, he addressed Texas House Dems in a video conference with them regarding their walkout two weeks ago. Watch this. What we all recognize is we can't let a systematic assault on democracy just happen and stand by. And so with because of your actions, because of your courage, what you've seen is California responding, other states

looking at what they can do to offset this mid-decade gerrymandering that is highly irregular and is not what we should be doing to balance out the maps for this upcoming election. And I think we became a little bit complacent over the years. We assumed that things would continue to get better, that our democracy would become, more inclusive, that it would become more fair, that we'd make it easier for people to vote rather than harder for people to vote, that the votes would be counted rather than suppressed. And what we forgot is that history doesn't always move in a straight line, and it's not always two steps forward and another two steps forward. Sometimes it's two steps forward and a step back.

And we're in a moment right now where not just gerrymandering, but efforts at voter suppression, efforts at questioning the results of elections, efforts at the executive branch unilaterally doing things that bypass Congress and the people's representatives, militarization of cities, politicization of our justice departments and our military, those are trend lines that remind us that this precious democracy that we've got is not a given. It's not self-executing. It requires us to fight for it.

It requires us to stand up for it. You know, Matt, it's a little hard for me to hear President Obama say, we got complacent. See, I know black folks love this from Obama, but no, he got complacent. Most of a thousand state seats were lost during his eight years. The DNC was not strong. Obama for America supplanted the DNC and they were

interesting effort that he's been working on with Eric Holder that was launched after he left office let's be real clear Rom Emanuel when he was Obama's chief of staff would often deride progressives saying I'm sick of them to talk about the Supreme Court right there that was a problem Rami Manuel James Carvey of Paul Bagalia

were critical of Howard Dean for a 50-state strategy, they want to focus on national. So when Obama says we, he got to look at the mirror. And we got to be willing to actually offer that critique because we were all there and we saw it. And a lot of us were saying, don't ignore the states. Stop focusing on national. That's exactly what happened.

Yeah, and it sounds like that critique is not only the truth, but it's timely. However, you know, it's subordinate to, the task at hand, which is do not see control, don't let them get any more seats, right? So that's a conversation that we definitely have to have and a conversation that has to be had, frankly, so history doesn't repeat itself in the future. But as for right now, I think Mayor Lee's comments in response to my question earlier are perfectly suited to respond to kind of what Mr. Obama said insofar as it's a matter of uniformity now, right? I mean,

the brilliance of this is I don't know enough of the history, and I wish I could give you an example of this. But I love the idea that, you know, Trump calls Abbott or calls him out or calls him like Raffinsberg, most likely, and says, hey, give me five more seats. And then people in other states say we can counter that by working in our own legislature to make sure that we counterbalance, you know, the gerrymandering that they're doing. And that requires not only uniformity, but it requires that everyone stand up at the same time and realize what he's doing over there he will soon be trying to do here. And we absolutely cannot let that happen. And I I think it's important to recognize that, you know, we both need to look at that necessary

critique that you're talking about, but we need to recognize that that's a conversation for tomorrow. The conversation for today is we cannot lose any further control. And in fact, we need to leverage the fact that the economy's bad. People are not happy with the militarization. They're not happy with the open fascism that they see this White House espousing. Therefore, we've got to stand up. And the time is to do that across this country in every way we possibly can, especially

on the local level and the legislative, you know, level in the state houses. And I wanted to speak to that to one end. You know, here in Texas, as you mentioned, the Democrats are talking about coming back, at least as I saw yesterday. But my local state senator is one of two state senators, at least in this area, that did not leave. And, you know, he issued a whole press release about, oh, we want to make a strong legislative record in the whole deal. But he's getting excoriated by local politicos in saying, we need you to stand up and grow a spine. This is the time that you need to dip just like everybody else and show them that we will do whatever it takes to win and that's what democrats have not done enough that's what they're called to do now

and we have to stand up together to do that well michael i'm not as good as moving on or focusing on only the now as some other people and and here's my particular point michael and and again i i know because i was there i remember in 2008 where they had the text primary and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama brought out massive numbers. Hillary Clinton, and it was called the Texas Two Step. Hillary Clinton won the vote, but then there was a second vote within the precincts, and Obama won that. That was massive energy.

Michael, I remember talking to the chair of the Texas Democratic Party at the time, and he said, finally, we are going to see. going to see money and interest and resources coming into Texas. Obama wins. None of that happened. None of it happened. He and the Democrats fly into Dallas, Houston, Austin, raised $5,000, $10 million, and they would leave. Texas, the infrastructure was not built.

You didn't have an increase in the county parties. They actually saw Republicans solidified their lead. Again, I don't need people. people are up watch. Y'all, I was there. In 2012, when Obama won re-election, I was standing there waiting to go on CNN. And I was saying, that's the senator of the interview congressman, Chris Van Hollen, now Senator, saying, don't y'all know y'all can mobilize and organize it, potentially win Texas or Georgia? He says, no, we can't. Too red. So what happened in Georgia? Well, Stacey Abrams and Raphael Warnock and others said, no, we can do that. And they actually

launched the Georgia the New Georgia Project and New Georgia Voter Project and that's exactly what they did. I remember telling Van Holla, you got 2 million Latinos who are eligible but unregistered. Texas has the most eligible

black voters in the country. No, we're not going to do that. And I said, that's the problem. I said, so you basically are conceding. And so I do believe so part of the reason we are where we are right now and Matt, this is why we got, and I'm sorry

some people got to look in the mirror, the Republicans have solidified their power in Texas because when Obama was there for eight years, they did not organize and mobilize Texas. So guess what? You don't do it for eight years, and now you're looking at a tool in 2025, and they actually have control of the legislature.

They have control of the governor's mansion, the House, and the Senate. And so people are going to have to stop saying, well, we, we, we, no, Folk are going to have to own that thing in saying, I, my, what I ignored, and I fundamentally believe that the problem that Democrats have today is that too many of them ignored what was happening on the state level over the last 10 or 15 years, and they were only focused on national elections, and Republicans played the long game and said, hey, all power is not in Washington, D.C. It's also in state capitals. Yeah, that's a good argument. And I remember when a lot of those fights were taking place. I remember when people were saying you need to build that infrastructure in Texas

and you can win, build the infrastructure in Georgia, you can win. But also Florida, okay? If I remember correctly, that same argument was made like in Florida. You don't have that infrastructure built for Democrats in Florida. And then, yes, there was Florida. Florida used to be, Michael, Michael, Michael, let's not, Michael, let's not, Michael, let's not, Michael, let's not run past it. Florida used to be a competitive state. It was a purple state.

And the reality is of the lack of leadership. And again, I just need people to just be honest, okay? When Obama won, he got rid of Howard Dean, he put in Tim Cain. He was an awful DNC leader. Then he followed that up with Denny Wasserman Schultz. She was an awful DNC leader. And so, we just got to put it out there. when you examine the problem today,

you cannot ignore the previous 10, 20 years. You go to any doctor, and all of a sudden, you have some health issues today. He's going to say, well, how have you been living for the last 20 years? It didn't just pop up magically. And what I'm saying is people have to recognize ignoring these things 10, 20 years ago.

It's why we're in the position we are in right now. We spent too much, man. Yeah, yeah, it's dealing with the infrastructure. It's not just voting. It's not just Kamala Harris was down, I think, 7 million votes from Biden Harris in 2020 when they got 81 million votes. It's not just that. It's the lack of infrastructure built in certain states.

And speaking to the state legislature, I remember the discussion. I remember the fight and how under President Obama, and I voted for Obama twice, okay? But having these conversations, I think, is good and healthy so that we can identify mistakes that have been made in the past so we don't make them again. But I remember that in the state legislature,

the state legislatures across the country, Democrats got killed in the state legislatures, okay? And that conversation took place at that time also. And the conversation dealing with the importance of the Supreme Court. It wasn't until really, I think, after the 20, after Trump wins in 2016, that then Democrats really start realizing, oh, damn, how important the Supreme Court is, especially when Roe v. Wade was overturned.

When Trump got three Supreme Court justice nominees confirmed, okay, then all of a sudden, then people were, oh, damn, we got to focus on the Supreme Court, okay? Okay. And Republicans played the long game. And Mitch McConnell was instrumental in this because Mitch McConnell made it his lifelong mission to get as many federal judges confirmed as possible. And just very quickly, when Republicans took back control of the Senate in 2014, they blocked 103 federal judge nominations from President Barack Obama. And they blocked Merrick Garland. the nomination to the Supreme Court which left all that open for Donald Trump to do a slam dunk and these are these are lifetime appointments so we have to understand

that three branches of the federal government is not just the executive branch it's not just the president you got the legislature the federal legislature you got the Supreme Court you got you know the federal and keep in mind the state legislature also

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somebody who's played golf for 38 years. If I keep missing puts and I keep missing them to the left and missing them to the right, you know what I need to do? I need to get a video camera or get a coach who can then look at my swing and then look at the mistakes that I I am making and then give me correction to improve my golf swing, my golf putting so I can actually make more putts. This notion that you can't look at what you did wrong in order of a plan today is nonsensical. Show me a coach who has a quarterback who is if the quarterback is inefficient. We're here in Indianapolis, Peyton Manning, Hall of Fame quarterback. So guess what? If Peyton Manning's footwork is wrong. If Peyton Manning's release point is wrong, then he's not

going to be as accurate as he needs to be. So you have to actually diagnose the problem by looking at the past to assess how we got to the present in order to fix it in the future. So let's take what happening in Texas. What are you now dealing with? Republicans have the governor's mansion. control the Texas House and the Texas Senate. They have a super majority. So before you can take control of state government, you got to win one. Before you can take over the governor's mansion, the House, in the Senate, you got to win one of them. And guess what? You may not even win the Texas House. You may not win the Texas Senate, but what you have to do is you have to then win critical seats so there's no supermajority. And so now what you then do is, if you're in Texas,

See, for all you have people who keep talking about plan, plan, plan, I'm explaining y'all how plans work. You then look at the map and say, okay, are there five or eight seats in the Texas House that we can focus our resources to win those seats in the next election so at least we're not, where they have to talk to us? See, right now, Republicans in the Texas House can pass whatever they want. Will their Democrats come back for a quorum? They have the votes. They don't need Democrats. So you have to actually look at, okay, let me examine the map. Okay, you know what?

That's too red, red, red, red, red. Okay, is this a possible pickup seat? Now, how do we organize and mobilize in that district to win that particular seat? That's called a plan of action. But you have to look at what you did before, which now means, okay, do I have the candidates running in all positions? How much money are they raising? Do I have boots on the ground? Do I have a district offices and who's doing it?

That's a plan of action. See, but see some of y'all, I see y'all comments. Some of y'all, y'all so mad that I critiqued Obama because y'all think Obama is right behind Jesus when you have to acknowledge that he made crucial mistakes that, again, affected him, but he impacted Democrats down ballot. So now, how do you now restore this? And so here's what I would say, here's what I would say, President Obama, why don't you go forth and begin to say, I'm going to raise $10 million, $20 million in order to help Democrats win back to Texas House?

how about that how about you literally go down to mobilize and organize to do that see that's what I'm talking about here see and Cameron too many of us

don't want to say that too many of us don't want to challenge leadership on that and I'm saying that's what you have to do but if you not don't do it by just doing a video conference

saying oh you know we got to keep trying no you actually here's what happened to the whole database, Cameron, Obama for America. Where did it go? Where do those people go? There were millions of people who had signed up for the judge. Where did they go? You have to mobilize and organize.

I'll give Bernie Sanders credit. When he lost, he took his database and he converted that into our revolution. Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. told me this year, he said that Roland the greatest mistake than my dad did after the 1988, uh, campaign is that he did not weaponize his database. Here he had all of these volunteers, these workers, these donors, and he did not take that and then create a lasting political operation that could help candidates down the road. Cameron, that's called planning. Yeah, as a person who's set there and been at the forefront when we're, where states are we investing, what districts are we investing? The thing you always heard about Texas is that, oh, it's too expensive, it's too big, there's too many markets.

Some of these state houses can be won with a million or two million dollars. There are things that were within the margins that are within the margins of a few thousand votes. That's just organizing. That's just a tension. That's just a purposeful focus. I think Democrats, and if they haven't learned and we haven't as a party learned by now, this is no longer a defensive game. This is an offensive game. You always hear that term, the blue wall, the blue wall.

That needs to be a blue push, a blue spirit. Like, we need to be moving forward and not just playing the defense. Because to your point, like, if we, there are several different states where there are literally hundreds or only a few thousand votes that separate a Democrat from a Republican, Democrat Republican, but as a person who deals in advertising and deals in, and kind of on the digital organizing side, you would always hear

oh, we can't invest that. That costs us too money. That media market costs too much. That costs too much. Well, it costs some money to win, but it's both money, attention, and people, and focus. And to your point, I do think we have to understand what we have done wrong and pivot

to what we're going to be doing now in 25 and especially with 26 coming up. absolutely and matt again um one of the reasons you have seen republican gains in south texas is because democrats took it for granted they did not focus on the issues and they did not keep the mobilization and the organization up and they allowed the republican and what you know what the republicans do in south texas matt you're there they came in they invested time they invested resources they invested boots on the ground they played the long game because they said if we can flip two, three, four, five seats, all of a sudden

we change the trajectory. That's literally how the game is played, Matt. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. But, you know, to use your analogy earlier, if you go to a golf pro and you've got a tournament coming up in a week, they're going to take a much more honed, focused approach on how to accomplish you performing in that tournament in a week differently than they are the long game fixing your golf swing. Two things can be true at once. I literally, live in South Texas and the local county where I live in, the Democratic Party is in a mutiny right now because the person who's the party chairman is just, you know, believed to not be moving quickly enough and to not have enough long-term strategy. And there's kind of a young gun coming in to

take his position down the road. So you're right. People want action and people need action. All I'm saying is I think we can do both things. We can call Mr. Obama out for his failures, but we can also say we have to triage this situation right now. Both things can be true, and that's all I'm saying. No, what I'm doing, Matt, what I'm doing, Matt, I bet. Hold on we finish. Let me finish. We can talk about what Republicans did, and I live in a county that was blue when I moved here, and it is now red or purple, and I've seen the changes that they've made.

I'm just saying right now the focus, the predominant focus, should be solving the immediate problem and not merely spending the time and talking about how the problem will rose because that is secondary to solving the problem. But your immediate problem, first of all, your immediate problem, you really can't control. Let's just be fundamentally clear, Michael. The reality is House Dems return for the quorum, maps get passed, okay? Then you're going to have the lawyers take over. But what I'm still talking about is you still have elections in 2026.

So, and we're talking now, what, 15 months, 14 months away. Somebody said here in the chat, somebody said in the chat here, they said, Obama should raise money in California, not Texas. But that's stupid. There are billionaires in Texas. There's billions of dollars in there. No, you do raise money there. The problem, Michael, was raising money in Texas and moving it out of state.

You need to raise money in Texas to keep it in Texas. Right. Because Texas can be one. You've talked about how Texas has a law. number of black voters that are not registered, if I remember correctly, you saying that road? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Texas has, no, no, no, no, no, no, let me correct. Texas has the largest number of eligible black voters than any state in America. Yeah, eligible black voters, any state in America. And I, and I also remember a few years

ago, Beto O'Rourke, if I remember correctly, Beto O'Rourke was talking about how the Democratic Party was not investing the money in Texas, and if they invested the money in Texas, they could win Texas, okay? So, Texas. And what he did was, and what he, and what he, and what he did, Michael, what he did was he ran against Ted Cruz, he visited all 254 counties, but again, he ran a campaign when the election is over, it's over. Now, he still has his organization, but Texas has two, look, it's a huge-ass state. It's 2504, counties. So you have to have massive infrastructure. One

person can't do that. That's why you have a party apparatus. That's the whole point. Yeah. And when we had these conversations, like I said, I voted for Obama twice. Okay? If he was running the third time, I'll vote for my third time. But

us having this conversation to look at what went wrong so we can fix it. is not bashing Obama. I want people understand, this is not bashing Obama. And the message that he gave to the Texas Democrats from the Texas State House, and unfortunately some of them, some of their needs are buckling and they're going to go back. The message was an inspiring message, but we also have to understand how do we get here?

What happened in 2010, 2012, 2014? We didn't just get to 2025, you know, overnight, okay? And so there's multiple parts when it comes to this political game. It's more than just showing up on a particular day voting. Right.

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I'll give you, I'll give you a perfect example. I guarantee you after my comments, yes, and last night, you've got some members of the Texas Black Caucus, boy, they are hopping mad at me. And I'm sure it's some Texas House Dems who are upset with what I had to say. But if you are mad at what I said, what that tells me is you didn't listen to what I said. And that is, these Texas House Dems, they left, they were out two weeks, then they're going back. that's it two weeks the point that i made is they raised expectations they gave the impression that they were going to hold out for the long haul two weeks ain't the long haul what did i say

last night was my greatest concern my greatest concern is that people would be frustrated that they only held out for two weeks and that potentially could depress people's energy and enthusiasm when it comes to turning out. So if you to Texas Black Caucus, are you mad? Get over it.

And in fact, if you're mad, don't show up for the quorum on Monday. See, I'm not interested in folk feelings. Everybody know what about, y'all, everybody know why I believe in the phrase FYF Cameron, what do you think FYF is?

I know. It ain't about feelings, rolling. Matt, Matt, Matt, what you think F what you think F your feelings? And what they don't understand? What they don't understand is, you said your big mama watch the show? Yeah, I'm not going to say it, but I know what it stands for.

And she probably told you at one time, F your feelings. But the thing that I'm trying to get people to understand is that you mad because I'm mad. First of all, you want me to be mad. You want me to be mad. You want me to care. You want me to be invested in this. And so I don't care.

And I'm telling you, I guarantee, I knew when I was, doing the show last night. I said, oh, but they're about to be big mad. And I said to my brother Ron Reynolds, he my frat. I appreciate that. But let me real clear. And this is for all of the members of the Texas Black Caucus. This is for all Texas House deems. And this is for any Republican, any dem, anywhere in the country. I don't told y'all my false be is. If you do good, I'm going to talk about you. If you do bad, I'm going to talk about you. At the end of the day, I'm going to talk about you. Listen, I'm on a text chain with Gene Wu. Somebody just connected me, a rep, just connected me with him. He wants to talk to me to explain

a process. Okay, we're going to talk. I'm going to still disagree. But if you mad and upset, maybe what y'all ought to do is go look at how many views the video guy. See, it's a lot of, it's a lot of folk in Congress mad at Congressman Jasmine Crockett. But it's amazing how they all call her to come do their fundraisers in their state and their county parties. See, it's amazing how, to me

it's dumb. So maybe the folk who are mad at political leaders who are fighting for the people who are resonating with the people, maybe what they should do is stop hating on them and start

asking, how are you doing it? Because we know what there's a lack of guts in politics these days and so I'm telling you right now and I was dead serious

if any of those members of the Texas Black Caucus let me just say it again for the folk in the back who don't understand what I'm saying if you are a black member of the Texas the Texas Black Caucus I'm telling you right now if you show up and let a lot of that quorum to happen

don't be surprised when I pop up in your district and matter of fact I challenge you to come on the show let me just go here and throw the gauntlet down any member of the Texas black caucus

who has a problem with what I said last night and I knew when I was saying that folk were going to be mad and upset and I was just honored Representative Jolanda Jones put that in and I was honored at the black caucus

I've keyed with them before If you got a problem with what I said, come on the show. I dare you. I dare you to come on the show, and we can have the conversation, have the debate. Because here's one thing that I know. I know exactly what the people are saying. And what the people are saying is, I need folk representing me who's got some fight in them and who are not willing to back down.

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huge role in many of these races. Again, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. This is a very conservative court found the current maps illegally packed and cracked black communities, either concentrating black voters into two few districts, or scattering them across many weakening their ability to elect preferred candidates. The court rejected Louisiana's argument that race-based protections are outdated, citing decades of press. affirming Congress's power to enforce voting rights. Now, Louisiana must draw fair maps that reflect its sizable black population, while a separate Supreme Court case over the state's congressional map is still pending.

Matt, this right here, again, huge. Listen, they weakened Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act. Section 2 is still there. Louisiana, a third of Louisiana population is African American. And for the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, listen, look, you're there in Texas. the people that this is not the Ninth Circuit. This ain't California. And so this ruling is significant if the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals found this violation, violates the voting rights of African Americans. Well, let me first say, actually, I'm sitting in Baton Rouge as we

speak, and I have to give a huge congratulations to my cousin, Shanice Manning, who got her master's in physics today and is en route to get her Ph.D. in physics from LSU. So I first got a shout out and proper. Black folks love giving shout out. Black people love giving shout out. Love shout out. Go on here with the shout out. Go ahead with the shout out, okay. And she's an AKA for what it's worse, so shout

out to her, but in any event, you know, okay, okay, anything else? Anything else? LSU, Bad Rouge, AKA, anything else? She's just an amazing person, so I'm proud of her and I want to give her flowers while I can. But in any event, Man, go ahead. In any event, the Fifth Circuit is by far the most conservative federal court of appeals in the country.

You know, I have to tell every client, yeah, you have a good case. But the Fifth Circuit is the mountain we still have to climb. And, you know, it's very tough sometimes because you see some inconsistent rulings from them. But for them to issue this ruling is really an extraordinary thing. You know, the concern is with the Supreme Court, they're making decisions every day that, to me, seem to be just violative of the basic principles of the rule of law, and we can't have assurances that our courts are going to get it right all the time, but they did get it right this time. And that's especially true when you are walking around, as I literally am, in a city like Baton Rouge. I mean, the blackness is on full

display. It's a lot of black people here, clearly in Louisiana, as the good brother, Gary Chambers comes on all the time and reminds us. And it's important for those people to have a full, you know, participation in society in terms of through voting. So I'm glad that the court upheld this. And the Fifth Circuit, I mean, frankly, if you win at the Fifth Circuit, that's an even bigger win than winning in most circuits when you have anything that has to do with voting rights, civil rights, you know, employment, anything that seems to be a civil right adjacent claim is one where the Fifth Circuit is very often hostile. So this is a huge win. I'm glad to see that this win came down. And I'm hoping that, you know, in further litigation or in subsequent litigation

like this, not only the Fifth Circuit, but all the courts of appeals, and the one at the top, the Supremes, gets it rights to make sure that people's votes count and that districts cannot be, you know, gerrymandered as they're attempting to do to cut out the full opportunity to elect the person that you want to be elected. Folks, joining us on the phone right now is Bishop William Barber the second. Glad to have him on the show. Bishop is going to be in Jackson, Mississippi for Morrill Mondays. And Bishop, there's a lot we've been talking about. obviously what was happening in Texas, California redistricting, voting, everything, but this is the thing that, and I was just talking about when, you know, President Obama, he addressed the Texas House Democrats, and what I said is, listen, listen, you can fight for, you could try to fight the break the quorum, but if you do not organize the state, if you don't mobilize the state, you can't win, news conference is not going to do it, just sitting down having Zoom is not going to do it. It literally has to be.

If we talk about hand-to-hand combat, this has to be person by person, house by house, street by street, block by block, precinct by precinct, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, state by state. Exactly, rolling. Can you hear me where rolling? Exactly. Yep, I got you, Bishop. Go ahead. And in Texas, as in Georgia, as in Florida, and is North Carolina, as is in Mississippi, the number of the number of. are in our favor if we go to the right places. The bottom line is if you look at poor and low wage voters in Texas, whether you look at black or just black or black and brown and white who have voted more progressive when they voted,

this number in Texas is something like 3% is all you need to overcome the past margins of the votes. So it's not that they have so much power is that we're not bringing all our power to the state. that's running in a House district committed to increase the number of turnouts in their district, 10%, even though they may not have competition, even though they may be in a black stack or a brown stack district. If we start thinking like that and organizing this, then these are Georgia and Virginia are the only states that can turn. North Carolina, and I want you to see, I said it here first.

North Carolina is going to take that sympathy, and it's going to turn, and it can turn by margins. I looked the other day in Mississippi. In Mississippi, Presley lost the governor's race by 23,000 votes. Over 500,000 black and brown poor and low-wage photos did not vote. But the main thing is they weren't really fought for or reached for. And so this is why we have this. You can have hand-to-hand or precinct-to-precinct combat. And what's going to Texas, I would encourage them, you and I've been talking.

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And the bottom line is it's going to take a lot of work, a lot of money. And I said that point blank. I said, listen, in Texas, I say, I think President Barack Obama needs to go to Texas. And he already needs to say, I'm going to raise $10 million. And we are going to win critical state houses to break the supermajority in Texas. We want to do the same thing in Florida. Republicans, it barely was broken in North Carolina. And that's what you have to do.

you have to look at the data and say, what are the seats that we can pick up, what can we win? So you may not be able to win the House, but if you break the supermajority as a step to winning the House or the Senate. That's right. And you've got to get a consultant that won't just use the old language, the old way, the all game. They're lazy. They don't want to go after these infrequent voters. They don't know how to talk. The other thing is Democrats cannot merely run saying we're against Trump.

They have to say, okay, this is what he did in the first hundred days, put me into Congress, Major, this is what we're doing, the first 20 days, or the first 50 days. You know, Democrats had a chance in 2020, and you told them, you said, do not just pass the COVID relief bill. I remember when you said it, we said it. You said pass voting rights, Restore the Voting Rights Act, and the COVID relief. Do it all at one time. Don't give Mansion what he wants before he commits to what he promised John Lewis before he died.

What happened? Democrats capitulated. some of them black, went after the COVID relief and said Manchin had promised them afterwards he would vote a certain way. As soon as he got what he wanted, he reneged. This is not gaming anymore. This is authoritarianism on steroids.

An expert on authoritarianism Roland told me the other day that the thing she fears the most is that this thing is moving at the speed of a military coup d'etat. And now that Trump has brought the military in to shut down cities. It's looking more and more like a military coup d'etat. And the politics we engaged this year and next year are going to be deterrentive of whether you slow it down and stop it. We have so much power.

That's why we're going to Mall Monday again in Memphis, and we're taking caskets to the senator's officers in the South who voted to basically commit policy violence, kill their own people by taking away Medicaid and creating policy. murder. But what we're also doing the role is organizing the pain. We're not going to let this leave the headlines. We're going to tell folk the truth. And then if you take 16 million people's health care, that's 16 million people. We ought to be mobilizing the vote.

If you take 20 million people off of SNAP, that pain will enable them to be organized by folks that will say, if you elect me, I will get those things back immediately with the majority. We can organize this pain. Black

pain, white plane, brown pain, native pain. But it's hard, hard, hard work. You know, I wouldn't be going down that we were invited in Mississippi and they said they want to fight. You got to go where it is, but you got to do more than just a speech. You got to organize and you have to know these numbers and stop telling our people that, well, the South, you can't do anything. Well, white people vote against their own self. And what some of them do. But the numbers tell us that that we haven't even gotten 50% of our black people to vote yet. So let's start talking about how we can get 60, 70% of black people to vote, get 20% of all poor and low-wage people who haven't voted to vote,

and let's see what that does, because that will fundamentally shift the numbers in these states. And I said that before we went to the break, I said, listen, I knew when I expressed my past deposition, yesterday. I knew it was going to be some Texas House Dems upset by that. It was going to be some Texas black caucus members

upset by that, but that ain't my problem. And if they are mad, my whole deal is deal with it. If they are mad, then guess what? Use everything in your power. Don't show up for the quorum. If they are mad, mobilize and organized. But the bottom line is here, I am concerned

as a 56-year-old black man who's 57 in November, who has nine nieces, four nephews. I got my nephew just had a baby, my niece has a baby on the way. I am concerned that my nieces and nephews and their children are going to lose power in the state where lots of blood, sweat, and tears were put in

to improve the plight of African Americans. So I ain't never going to apologize for my passion and demanding folk use every ounce of their being to change this situation. We don't need another August 19th, like we have a June team roller, where two years down the road, folks say, well, they should have, they should have, on August 19th, gotten arrested, and they didn't. And two years later, people figured out that they could have done it, and they should have done it. We don't need any more than that.

Winning the messaging ballot isn't the battle. You have to mobilize the message. And why would you not force Abbott to arrest you and then take Abbott to court, tied up in court, suing court, and then use that to mobilize the people. You know, I believe if they, if those Texas Democrats stood their ground and said, listen, we're literally going to say, if you're going to get us, you've got to come get us, and we're going to be in wheelchairs because you're crippling this democracy. You're crippling America.

And if they announced where they would be, I think, tens of the hundred thousand. I think they could put 200,000 people in Texas. and then tell them. But if they quit, people that were going to fight are going to say, see there, see, see. And you, this is a moment. I'll tell you, Bishop, I'll tell you. Bishop, I was reading, I was on the plane, I was reading Martin Depp's book on Operation Breadbasket. April of 1969, one year after the assassination of Dr. King, the Speaker of the House of Illinois, Ogilvy, was proposing a bill to cut 120, $25 million in welfare funds. Reverend Jesse Jackson, Senior, in Operation Breadbasket, they mobilized 4,000 people outside the state capital in Springfield. They put so much pressure on him that he withdrew the bill. That was one state lawmaker said he had never seen in his career

where a Speaker of the House got so much pressure that he withdrew his own bill. That's what happens when you, again, give the... the people something to fight for, and they're going to stand there. And this is all I'm trying to say. And listen, I'm going to call Representative Gene Wu. I'm going to talk to you about their strategy. But I need them to understand that in this moment, Bishop, you see this all the time. When people feel downtrodden, beating down, left out, they need somebody to give them hope.

They need something to fight for. and then when you raise the expectations and then all of a sudden you lower them, then folk go, what the hell are we doing? Why did I go to the commission and testify? Why did I do all of that if all you was going to do is sit out for two weeks?

That's my central critique. You never start a sit-in and quit. They started in December of 1955 and went 381 days. In North Carolina, when we started tomorrow Monday, we went over 20 weeks roller. And folk were arrested, but thousands of people showed up, and they mobilized. In 2014, we had 100,000 people show up at the General Assembly. And that year, when the elections came, we threw out the governor, who was an extremist like Trump,

and was one of the only states where an incumbent tea partyer was sent home, a house member, from Western North Carolina, when black and white folk up in western North Carolina, found themselves a way to come together during them all Monday. Once you commit to an act of civil disobedience, you have to stay with it. Otherwise, you mess up the courage of the people who are with you and you emboldened the people

who are against you. You know, if you could, like Jesus said, if you're going to set your face like Flint, you got to go all the way. And you know what, Roland, I want to say this in love. We cannot be the generation that does more with less with more than folk before us who did more with less.

Now, I know we might be facing arrest, but look, Texas, think about Texas. There were people who stood up in Texas in 800s and early 1900s who faced being lynched, not just merely getting arrested, you know, and going home. They faced being lynched. And every seat in Texas, every black seat in the South, is dipped in blood.

I'm going to Mississippi Black Caucus on Monday. And I'm going to remind you, every seat here is dipped in blood. There's no way in the world that we can be more afraid than folk were 70, 80, 100 years ago when they face more dangers then. Come on, y'all. And we have more ways to get people together. You've got this show that reaches hundreds of thousands of people. You've got all this social media. I mean, we come from people who didn't even have any of this and did more.

As you said, so the time is right now. Please do not disappoint the people. And there are some things that if you keep saying something is bad, it's bad, it's bad, it's terrible, it's terrible, it's terrible, it's the worst thing ever. And then you capitulate to the extremists. And you go in when you ought to stay out. You give them their majority when you ought to not give them their quarrel, excuse me, quarrel. My God, what that does to people is it says,

you know what, this is nothing but a game. And they don't turn on your adversary, they turn on you. That's the thing about it. When you disappoint people and you call them the courage and then they don't see it. They don't turn on the people

who you gave into. They turn on you. And the way they turn on you, you get 40% of the people voting. You get 50% of people voted, and 50%, 60% of the people staying home. And with those kind of numbers, you're never going to overcome this extremism and authoritarianism that we see today.

To my panel, I need quick questions for Bishop Barber. Cameron, I'll start with you. Bishop Barber, you said you're headed down to Mississippi. I think that Senate race with Senator Sidney Highsmith, probably one of the most racist senators we have. Do you feel like that's a winnable race next year? The numbers say it is. The numbers say that it is. I was just shared with Roland the other day that if you look at poor and low-wage voters, about 600,000 or more in the state, over 400,000, nearly 500,000 didn't vote. In the gubernatorial race, the margin of victory

was only 23,000 votes. The margin of victory in the last Senate, race is smaller, way smaller, than the number of poor and low-wage voters if them put money in there, if they put people on the ground in there. You remember the former Secretary of Agriculture, he almost won down there out of Mississippi. But he asked for resources and got none. He asked for help and got none. And he forced that race. I mean, he won in places they didn't think Mississippi is one of the key people.

They're like 56 black members of the caucus down there. It's only 120-some members of the whole state legislature. They have over 56 in Mississippi, of all places. If every black Democrat runs in their district like they have competition, increases the turnout by 10 to 12 percent, if they mobilize with poor and low-wage white folk and black folk, 68 percent of white Republicans said they now won't. Medicaid

after COVID. And many of them down there, you don't have to get 50%. If you can get 25% for low-wage voters, take a lot of their white voters that may either not vote or voted in another way

to vote their agenda, vote their pain. This is winnable, but it's not winnable if you keep saying it's not and you don't invest any money in it and you just write it off.

The Dems have written the South off too long, too long, and we've got to stop. They have to stop it and start truly investing in organizing the South. Thank you. Michael. Reverend William Barber, when you talk to poor and low wealth people who haven't voted in a number of years,

what are some of the key hot button issues that resonate with them that get them to realize, okay, I need to vote because this impacts my life? Well, first of the thing, we should know this. and low-wage people make $50,000 and less than family for the first time in modern history voted for a Republican candidate over 50%. They voted 51% for Trump. Prior to that, they were voting for Democrats in the majority, and it started going down after, from Obama on 40th. Now, here's why it went down. They said 19 million poor low-wage voters that voted for Biden and Kamala, when he was burned to

didn't vote. Not that they voted for someone else. They just didn't vote, okay? Cecilia Lake just did a study on it. The top reason that they didn't vote is they said they didn't hear a clear economic agenda when it came to low weight, raising the minimum wage to

a living wage and Medicaid expansion. That was a top issue, two issues, that if they had heard that clearly, they said the problem is all they heard coming from the Democrats was middle class, middle class, middle class. So, so Democrats lost 19 million voters, and the number one reason they did not vote in this past election was because they did not hear a clear economic agenda for poor

and low-wage working people. And the second reason, the number one reason they say they don't vote, according to the study we did, is they said nobody talks to them. They don't, they don't campaign in the communities, they don't come to the communities, They don't say the word poor. They don't say the word low wages. That's what's happening. If you are running for political office, people need to hear at least their name and their situation.

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said he said he probably get in trouble for saying it. I got it on camera. I'm going to get it to rolling so y'all can play it. He said, Grimbabwe, I'm probably going to get in trouble for this, but I'm going to say it tonight. The consultants tell us not to use the word poor and low wages.

They tell us that. Oh, yeah, you got to get that to me. Say that. That's crazy. Hey, excuse my friend, but that's crazy. When you got 140 million poor and low wage people in this country, 87 million poor and low wage voters, only 57 million of them voting

30 million staying home and more people state voters stayed home that voted in this past election and you're not even going to say the word poor and low wage right that is a that is a recipe for losing every time yes matt thank you thank you a very quick quick follow-up question for you for you dr barbett in that respect go ahead yes can you go ahead okay dr barbara how do you yep we got you go ahead the culture of the people how do you change the culture of the people in places like where I am, Texas, poor and low-wage people who are going to repudiate, you know, anything that's not the Republican label, even though they would be voting for their interest if they were voting for Medicaid and some of the other

programs. I mean, that's what I see as a big issue here is that people don't want to be aligned with a certain party, and therefore they may not vote, even though it's against their interest. How do you change that culture through the messaging? Yeah, okay. Well, remember what I just said in the stats. Now, I know what I know what we tend to say as a matter of saying it. But I look at stats. And let me tell you this, Roland, my wife taught me something the other day that I'm going to say to y'all that's got to become a political reality. You know, I used to be really, really, really big. I steroids and stuff blew me, you know, and I lost a lot of weight. But I kept going to the store in the same size.

For some reason, I couldn't get my mind past 60. I had been way up about 70. I couldn't get my mind. The other day we went in the store, and I went over there. She said, don't you. you go over there another time. She said, you are not that big anymore. I said, you bring your pretty skinny ass over here. Excuse me, but she said, you come on here and try on this 52. I can't want no 52, baby. She said, okay, they got me sticking in there.

Go in there. It's going to tell you the size of your elbow, your arm, your neck, your eyes, everything. And they do. And it said 52.7. Now, my point I'm trying to make to my brother is I hear that all the time. But the data says that last year was the first time that poor and low-wage people voted over 50% for a Republican. So that means that 50% of them ain't voting there against their own interest. And that means large amounts of them just aren't voting.

Why? Because they're not being talked to. So you can't live in a non-statistical reality. The reality is that the majority of poor and low-wage people are making under $50,000 a year. year when Biden and Harris did not vote against their self-insured. They don't know 40% coming. But the majority

didn't. But the larger issue is so many of them stayed home and they said, not we said, whether it's black or white, whether it's Appalachia or the Delta, whether it's the panhandle or it's the city. Nobody comes and

talks to us about the issues that are really, really real. How much time? Do I have one more minute, rolling? I just want to tell a story real quick, one minute. Yep, Bishop, go ahead. Go ahead.

We went to East Kentucky. My brother, they told me, if you go to East Kentucky, they're going to shoot you. I said, no, they said, no, it's. I said, no, it isn't. It's Ann Braden country. She was a white woman that fought for civil rights in Kentucky. I said, it's coal-minded company where black and white people fought against the union. And they came up with the song, which side are you on?

Which side are you on there? Black Lives Matter union. People didn't even know that history. I said it is the country of the Great Dissenter, who was the only person to dissent in Plessy v. Ferguson. We went there and met with some folk, and we showed them how the state legislature under Republican leadership was voting against their water rights, their pensions, turning the coal companies over the foreign nation, not passing a – blocking Medicaid, how many people that hurt up there in Appalachia and in those mountains, so forth and so on. And we showed them how they lied to them.

And when they come to them, all they do is talk about gay people and abortion, but they don't tell them the rest of the story. We showed them the rest of the story, put charts up on the walls, showed them how their legislators voted. And one guy got up. He was a McCoy, you know, the Hatfields in the McCoy. He said, Rambover, show that again. I showed it to him.

He said, well, I will bet, damn, if we ain't being bamboozled. I said, you are. Now, what are you going to do about it? They got together with black folk from Louisville and began organizing four of those six counties voted for Andy Bershear, who's now the new Democratic governor in Kentucky, who sent an incumbent Republican home. And we never endorsed them. What we did was we went there and showed people, this is how you are being. Not some, I'm can't see, they didn't go. A couple of folks cussed us out while we were up there.

But so what? I got cussed out before. I'm trying to get 25%. We win if 25% are poor and low-wage people that haven't voted. We might not get 75, but I can get 25% in any state, in any of the battleground states, where poor people are 56% of the electorate, poor low-wage folks, if I can win 25% of those who have not voted,

It's a new day. And that's how I think, my friend, we have to start changing the culture. Thank you. All right. Bishop William Barber, always a pleasure. Folks, pull the graphic up Monday. Bishop Barber will be in Jackson, Mississippi for Moral Mondays. We'll be live streaming it right here on the Black Star Network.

Bishop, thanks a lot. Bless you, man. Y'all forgive me for a little cussie, but it's good for the soul. That's right, then. Cussing lowers your blood pressure. All right, Bishop, thanks a lot. I'm going to go to a quick break. We'll be right back, folks, on Rolla Martin.

I'm focused on the Black Star Network. Next on the Black Table with me, Greg Carr. We welcome the Black Star Network's very own Roland Martin, who joins us to talk about his new book, White Fear, how the browding of America is making white folks lose their minds. The book explains so much about what we're going. through in this country right now and how as white people head toward becoming a racial minority it's going to get well let's just say even more interesting we're going to see more violence

we're going to see more vitriol because as each day passes it is it is a nail in that coffin the one and only roland martin on the next black table right here on the black star network Carl Payne pretended to be Roland. Holla! You ain't got to wear black and gold every damn place, okay? Ooh, I'm an alpha, yay! All right, you're 58 years old. It's over.

Then you are now watching... Roland Martin, unfiltered, uncut, unplugged, and undam-believable. Folks, before I close the show out, let me shout out, keep your prayers for God Tori. You just saw him in that drive. Guy had emergency surgery last night. He was supposed to be performing, I think, in Florida. They discovered a massive blood clot in his lung. And so I saw his video on Instagram.

So keep the prayers for my man, Guy Tori, as he recovers from emergency surgery. All right, folks, I am here in Westfield, Indiana, just outside of Indianapolis. The live golf tours having their tour stop here, my man, AJ Callaway. invited me to come out for the stop. Now, you know, he's an Omega, but I tolerate Omega's. But he wishes he could be an alpha, but Great Point Average was way too low, way too low. So we're here. Actually, I'm going to get behind the camera.

I'm going to show you all. And so obviously, the tournament's done for the day. And the players were out here. And it's not just the players out here, folks. You've got a lot of stuff out here in terms of different, all sort of for the folks who don't even play golf. see, man, it is a gorgeous, gorgeous sunset. It's a beautiful, beautiful day here in Indianapolis or in Westfield. And so round two of the live golf tournament is tomorrow.

I'm going to be out of here all day. And, of course, the final round is on Sunday. And so I look forward to be out of here. Check out my social media for a lot of different posts and things along those lines. We'll be looking forward to having lots of fun. And this, you know, y'all know I love golf. And so I've walked a PGA tour stops. I've gone to places in Houston and Dallas and you name it, all the different places.

And the rally is, you know, I love sports. Now, if I can't be playing, if I'm watching, it's fine. But the only problem is, like, a gorgeous day like this day, I probably want to play tomorrow versus watching. But we'll be watching. But again, so I wanted to come out here and check this out. I've seen it on television. Of course, I follow on social media as well. A number of players who were on the PGA tour, now on the live tour, Brooks, Brooks Kepka, Dustin Johnson, a number of these players,

Lee Westwood. And I don't have his first name, but this young kid, Munoz, right, do shout a 59. For all y'all in golf who don't understand, a 59 is like almost meeting Jesus Christ. I'm seriously, y'all, 59 is crazy in golf. And he was on fire. So shut out to him. That's the holy grail in golf shooting of 59. And so, you know, really looking forward to it, a new league,

a lot different from the PGA tour. And so looking forward to seeing some of the folks earlier, Mark Jackson, former NBA head coach, former play with the Houston Rockets. I know y'all remember from the Knicks, but I don't care. But also Indiana Pacers, he was here and some other folks that had the opportunity to meet. and looking forward to it.

And so check out on social media. I'll be posting some stuff. And I'm going to have a lot of fun out here walking the course, you know, and getting some steps in and then join all the festivities. And so I appreciate being here and having the invite. Let me thank our panel for being today. Let me thank, of course, Matt, we think Michael. Matt, you got any more shoutouts?

Because, you know, you've been shouting everybody out. Got anything else? No, but I love that you end to your show. With shoutouts, Utah. In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies. But even more extraordinary than the magazine article's claim was the identity of the man who wrote the article, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle,

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did you just shout out the cat that shot of 59 which by the way is insane I mean that is that is crazy 59 no I didn't shout out the guy I didn't shout out the guy shout out I'm reporting what he did that's not a shout out that's a report dude you're a lawyer

you don't understand the difference I'm sorry you did go to that little school in Austin Texas University y'all call it here's Texas I don't understand why you have no understand I well oh you didn't I don't

I don't know. He's still a Howard brother. He's still a Howard brother. Watch a rolling. Hey, hey, hey. Thank you, my brother. Thank you. Matt, it's some little school you went to, so I don't care.

I mean, University of Texas, whatever, Howard. It's some little bitty school. Right. And Roland, I got a quick shout out. So he don't even matter. Rolling, I got a quick shout out. All right. Come on.

Come on. Come on. Hurry up. Get your shout out. It's for the Cigmas and Zatis that won the D-9 Metro Detroit. Oh, hell no. Hell no, man. Don't nobody care about no five-a-sigma. They won. So shout out to the Sigma's and Zetas that won that step show, okay, here in Michigan. All right, blue five. Really? Rolling, I got. You literally do a shout-out for a local,

you're doing a shout-out for a local step show. Boy, bye. Camera, what you got? Come on. No, Rowland. Detroit. Rolling in an all serious note, in all serious note, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I'm leaving here to go to Alabama. My grandmother was 102, about to turn 103 past. She was the oldest living, AKA, Morgan State alum. She used to love, she loves you, loves your show. She just, unfortunately, I mean, she lived a long life.

But she, I just wanted to make sure I shot out Mary Bell Prior Trimble. Like I said, she was the oldest living AKA, oldest Morgan State alum. She almost, like, 102 and a half. But I just wanted to dedicate the show to her. we're headed to her memorial service tomorrow and she would always call me and text me when I was on your show

so your grandmother passed away 102 and a half years old was a huge watcher of this show please give my regard to the family I appreciate her watching and see more likely she probably didn't mind me cussing

because you know you lived to 102 years old that probably meant you cussed alive of people out because you kept your stress levels down. And if Michael and Matt keep trying to give more shout out, I'm going to start cussing them out. All right. So again, safe travels to Alabama. Cameron, I appreciate it again.

Tell my begrudge to the whole family. Matt, tell everybody what's up in Baton Rouge. And Michael, whatever. I'm going to get a damn by no signals. All right, y'all, that's it for me. Again, I appreciate everything. I'm going to, again, I'm going to be here with a live golf. this weekend so check out my social media folks don't forget support the work that we do

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