#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Derek Chauvin can leave MN; Medical Journal says Oust Trump; MLK, Robinson families bash Trump

Episode Date: October 10, 2020

10.9.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: George Floyd's killer Derek Chauvin will be allowed to leave the state; Medical Journal tells voters to oust Trump; Families of Martin Luther King and Jackie Robinson ...bash Trump; Black jogger stopped by ICE agents; Biden campaign releases new ad featuring Samuel Jackson; Meet Tennessee Senate candidate Marquita Bradshaw; Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered Partner: Ceek Whether you’re a music enthusiast or an ultra-base lover. CEEK’s newly released headphones hear sound above, below and from multiple directions unlike traditional headphones where users only hear sound from left and right speakers. Be the first to own the world's first 4D, 360 Audio Headphones and mobile VR Headset. Check it out on www.ceek.com and use the promo code RMVIP2020 #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 What the hell is going on? The New England Journal of Medicine, for the first time in its more than 200 year history, has endorsed a presidential candidate. That's how awful Donald Trump is. The families of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Jackie Robinson are pissed off at the Trump campaign is using the images of both of those men in campaign ads. A black jogger is getting a lot of attention on social media after he's stopped by ICE agents. The Biden campaign has released a new ad featuring Samuel L. Jackson.
Starting point is 00:02:34 We'll also look at the Tennessee U.S. Senate race with candidate Markita Bradshaw, plus a new bunch of anti-Trump ads dealing with the coronavirus. Y'all, we're also going to have a live simulcast with Sirius XM Radio. It's time to bring the funk. I'm rolling the mic down the filter. Let's go. He's got it.
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Starting point is 00:03:41 Martel. All right, folks. In Minnesota, a judge has ruled that the Department of Corrections provided evidence that unidentified safety concerns have arisen in the case of Derek Chauvin. He is the former cop who was the one responsible for the death of George Floyd. Now, this is interesting. The judge is modifying the conditions of his release to allow Chauvin to live either in Minnesota or a neighboring state. The judge also said that Chauvin will have no permanent address in the public court information system, but must report his new address to his conditional release officer who can share it with the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office Court Security Division, the prosecution and the defense. He will also be required to keep a cell phone on his person at all times and answer all calls from the Department of Corrections.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Of course, Chauvin is the former Minneapolis cop who was one responsible for the death of George Floyd, kneeling on him for eight minutes and 46 seconds, suffocating him to death. My panel Rob Richardson, host of Disruption Now podcast. Michael M. Hotep, host of the African History Network show. Dr. Neombe Carter, Howard University Department of Political Science. What the hell, Rob? Isn't it amazing? Please just show me an example. Show me an example of a non-cop who gets to leave the state and doesn't have to give their address. This is what is called the system protecting cops when they murder Americans. Oh, there's no question about that. And I can't name you a case, and I doubt if anybody else
Starting point is 00:05:21 could because it doesn't exist. We have special rights for officers and we have less rights for African-Americans. We know that in this country. And this is part of our battle that we continue to fight. And I've never seen anything like this. This is new. Generally, I've seen cases like this in Cincinnati in terms of we've had officers do, unfortunately, this is not new. What happened has happened over and over again. But I haven't seen a case where they allow you to leave the state. I mean, that's new. And so they shouldn't have this privilege. He has no right to have this privilege. But here and this is this is America. This is what we're fighting for. We're fighting. We're still fighting for our humanity. We're still fighting for a system to make sure that we have the rights that everybody else does.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And he shouldn't have any special rights. But we know that they do. This is, again, Dr. Carter, it just shows you how the system is all about protecting cops, protect them at all costs. The cop who raped the black women in Oklahoma, how they wouldn't even put his location in the state prison system in the database. OK, excuse the hell out of me if you would have went out there sexually assaulting. No, you're no longer a damn cop. You don't get those protections. Those this is the kind of stuff how people say, oh, preferential treatment. And this is how y'all get over it. Every time.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Right. Absolutely. I mean, I think this is, I mean, as Rob so eloquently put it, this is something that we've seen over and over again. And I think the message that we keep sending, and this is why people have to say Black Lives Matter over and over again, because you can kneel on a man's neck for eight
Starting point is 00:07:02 minutes and 46 seconds and still expect to get bail and still expect to leave the state and essentially be free to do whatever you want to do, quite frankly. I mean, there's nothing to stop Derek Chauvin from doing this again. But we saw this with Breonna Taylor, right? The officer that was only charged with firing bullets recklessly, not murdering this young woman. And I think we know that the price of black life means nothing when it's a police officer on the other end of that gun or on the other end of that taser or whatever baton or whatever means they have to take our lives. This is disgusting. And we certainly know that this is not going to move the needle on these all these conversations people have about black folks having confidence in the justice system. What justice system? This is an injustice. It's gross. It's a gross miscarriage of justice. Michael, one of the things that, again, when I think about cases like this, when I think about
Starting point is 00:07:55 how these contracts are written where a police officer doesn't have to test, doesn't have to give an interview for 48 hours or a week. In some cases, they get to actually look at the statements made by other witnesses before they do. And only because Georgia changed the law for the longest in Georgia, the state law allowed for a police officer before a grand jury to literally sit in the grand jury proceedings, which are supposed to be secret, where even if you are a witness, you can't even bring your own lawyer in. This is the madness that we are trying to fight when it comes to a system that is stacked against victims and is all about making it easy for the cops to get off.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Well, Roland, first of all, thanks for having me, number one. But watch whiteness work. Watch whiteness work. This is what we're looking at. And this is an example of how not just elections are so important, but also laws, because politics is the legal distribution of scarce wealth policy and resources, and the writing of law, statutes, ordinances, amendments, and treaties, the adoption, interpretation, and enforcement. So when we look at this, I was trying to think of a case where they allow a police officer to leave the state, move to a different state in a situation where they killed someone. I couldn't think of one. Okay. I know what Amber Geiger, she left her apartment and moved to maybe a neighboring city or something like that. No, no.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Actually, what happened was, so Collin County is next to Dallas County. Right. And so she turned herself into Collin County authorities versus Dallas County. But remember— No, she left her apartment. Right, right. But remember, they let her leave. And she didn't have to give her witness test. She didn't have to give her interview to the cops.
Starting point is 00:09:50 She got to wait several days. And the Texas Rangers said, yeah, we'll catch you later. Right, right. What? So this all ties into the police officers' contracts, which are negotiated by their unions. Okay, this is why when we deal with this culture of policing and reforming this culture of policing, it's not just the police departments. It's also police unions. But then this ties into the laws and the contracts that are also signed off on by the members of city council or mayors or what have you. So all of this is connected. So we really have to understand the different parts of this whole to really understand what
Starting point is 00:10:33 it is we're fighting. But at the end of the day, things that I tell my listeners are, because just yesterday, I think it was, he posted $1 million cash bond, or the day before, one of them. And a lot of people were surprised. I said, look, this is all part of the process. I knew it was coming. It took him longer. If it was less money, he would have raised it sooner because the unions raised money for them, et cetera. But in cases like this- Individuals do too. Individuals do, absolutely. Individuals do too. But a lot of times the police unions
Starting point is 00:11:02 will raise money for them to help them post bail. So what I tell a lot of my listeners and those on my Facebook fan page is that there's four main things that I focus on when we see these police killings. One, charges. Two, prosecution. Three, conviction. Four, sentencing. You're going to see all these different maneuvers in between that, trying to smear the victim who's dead, things like that. But those are the four
Starting point is 00:11:30 main things that I really focus on. And to add to that, Roland, because you made a lot of good points. I just want to say process because he kind of hit on this. But the process before you get to that point, because if the if the if the contract that's negotiated with the city is in place, it's a collective bargaining agreement. People don't like to hear this, but there's nothing you can do about it if it's already in place and it's been signed. But that's usually up every three years. So you need to know when that contract negotiation is coming up. You need to know about the the contents of that of that contract. And there are some absurd things, like you guys said, like, you know, there are there are some laws say like they're able to they're able to wait 48 hours,
Starting point is 00:12:04 all that stuff. We need to know some of that. And you need to talk to your city council person and they need to make sure that they are testing the limits of these agreements. There's only so much they can do, but they can't test the limits and they rarely have any type of conflict, usually just agree with nothing. Right. And just very quickly, Ron, if I could for a few seconds, with all the, you know, with, I have a lot of respect for those who protest and march those in Black Lives Matter, civil rights movement. But we have to understand if the laws are designed to trap us, we have to understand the law better than they understand the law. We need to understand what
Starting point is 00:12:41 the booby traps are, all the pitfalls are. So just like you had Dr. Greg Carlin, just like you have other African-American legal scholars, we have to have these training camps, these boot camps, where we are taught how all this works. So we understand how to navigate it when we're protesters, how we understand how to navigate it also so we don't get caught up in the system as well. Absolutely. All right, folks, this is crazy. In a scathing editorial, the New England Journal of Medicine calls on voters to throw Donald Trump out of office.
Starting point is 00:13:10 It's the first time the Medical Journal has taken a stance on a U.S. presidential election since it was founded in 1812. The editorial states, quote, when it comes to the response to the largest public health crisis of our time, our current political leaders have demonstrated that they are dangerously incompetent. We should not abet them and enable the deaths of thousands more Americans by allowing them to keep their jobs. The editorial was signed by nearly three dozen of the journal's editors.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Joining me now is Dr. Ebony Hilton. She's Associate Professor of Anesthesiology and Critical Care Medicine at the University of Virginia. Ebony, glad to have you back on Rolling Martin Unfiltered. Damn! I mean, they have never said this before. This is called clearly, get this fool out. Listen, there's a lot happening.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I think America needs a timeout. We need to figure out who is actually running our country and who's running behind that person, because the person in charge right now is not firing on all cylinders. So, yeah, here we are. Well, this is, of course, it is also announced that he's going to be having, he's already had a super spreader event for A.B. Coney Barrett that has infected all these different people. I still don't believe that he's actually fully out of the woods when it comes to coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Now this fool is going to have 700 people on the South Lawn of the White House tomorrow. You've got to be a dumbass. You've got to be an absolute dumbass to go to the White House for any event after nearly two dozen people have been infected with coronavirus, including the full holding event. Right. I mean, at this point, I honestly don't understand what the driver is. Initially, people can try to deny that it exists. He said it was a hoax. Then people can say, well, everyone else is getting sick, but he has such tight protocols and he's safe. But now literally he the White House is a cesspool is I don't know, it's troubling.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So at this point, whoever shows up is literally asking to be infected by COVID-19. I'm just hoping that they take consideration to say if they make that choice for their own life, that they do not take it outside the walls of their own home or the lawn of the White House to infect other people who didn't ask for this because they will be spreaders of this virus and people are going to die. It's unnecessary. Hey,
Starting point is 00:15:45 hell, the army, Mitch McConnell is already on record saying, I ain't taking my ass to the white house. They got some jacked up as protocols. Right. And I feel like if that's actually, hold on,
Starting point is 00:15:56 go ahead. I can't hear you. Go ahead. Donald doesn't want to die before his election. Right? So Mitch McConnell is not a fool. I mean, now they're happy to let the rest of us die, they're happy to let the rest of us die.
Starting point is 00:16:06 They're happy to let the rest of us take risks, but they're not willing to take those same risks and those same gambles with their own lives. And I think that should tell everybody something. I mean, when you look at the fact that the White House has infected more people than some small countries had in a day, that should tell you something
Starting point is 00:16:19 about how serious the disease is and the fact that this White House will not respond to any of the real information they have coming from their own public health officials tells you something about the lack of care that they have. Ebony, you better comment.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Go ahead. Well, yeah, I was going to make a comment about McConnell. I think it's absolutely borderline criminal for him to suggest that it's not safe for him and his fellow senators to meet in a very contained space of where we're all adults and we know how to follow protocols and rules and wear masks. But yet he's telling people to send their children, of which we know children, they're beautiful little people, they don't realize the dangers of what happens when you touch your face and when you take your
Starting point is 00:17:10 mask off and you cough in your friend's face. They don't understand that danger. And yet the Senate has stated time and time again that we need to force the doors open to our schools, jeopardize the life of our children while they get to sit in the safety of their own home with a laptop. And they're now pushing for themselves to be tested on a day-to-day basis. Meanwhile, we have essential workers who've been on the front line since literally the beginning of the pandemic in grocery stores and working in these areas to keep our nation afloat, and they haven't been afforded not one test. And I think that's negligent on the part of the people that we elect to actually serve us.
Starting point is 00:17:51 If you want to see sheer stupidity, folks, this is one of the White House spokesmen today talking to Hallie Jackson on MSNBC. Six times she asked him when was the last time Donald Trump tested negative for coronavirus. No answer. Watch this. All right. Let's talk about something else that I know that your communications office wanted to get back to us on, which is when was the president's last negative test prior to his diagnosis? So we don't have that, but we're looking at this from a public health perspective in that when there's an indication of a positive test or symptoms showing, then you go back the 48 hours, you do your contact tracing. It's about preventing further transmission of
Starting point is 00:18:37 the disease. And that's why we'll be focused on these diagnostics and the ways of measuring transmissibility, because that's really the public health reason for releasing such information. It's to prevent further transmission of the disease. So that's where we're focused. Sure. And of course, to look at what potential exposures may have happened before the president's diagnosis. So on that last negative test, you said you don't have that. You don't know or you don't want to say? So we don't have that. There's well, I don't personally know. Right. What does that mean? Have you asked Brian? I think Wednesday you said you're going to look into that. So. So, Hallie, the the president doesn't check all of his HIPAA rights at the
Starting point is 00:19:16 door just when he becomes president. The doctors obviously share fulsome information with the president. The president shares a great deal of information with the American public. We have gone through numerous briefings with the doctors, half a dozen memos from the doctors, his daily vitals we put out yesterday. We've had briefings with the chief after interacting with the president. We've had Kayleigh come out and talk. I am now speaking with you about all the information we can share. But just because he's president doesn't mean he shares every single detail of his entire life. But we do share enough information, certainly for public health purposes. Yeah. So is it it's a privacy thing, then the reason why you're not saying the
Starting point is 00:19:56 last negative test HIPAA. So so that that is one reason. The fact of the matter is there's a reason to share certain information. It's to prevent further transmission of the matter is there's a reason to share certain information. It's to prevent further transmission of the virus. It's public health purposes. And that's what we're doing. Lord, the food keeps on. No, no, we're not going to go backwards. We're going to go forwards.
Starting point is 00:20:16 We got y'all lying. Right. Y'all lying. Right. I mean, this is just a cover up. And well, even Trump said in his own recordings with Bob Woodward, they try to downplay this virus.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And unfortunately, and I do fully believe in the privacy and the right for individual people to have their medical records to themselves. Not the president. And here's the thing. Not the president to a certain extent. When you decide that you want to dictate whether or not you're going to be passing this virus onto other people,
Starting point is 00:20:54 that you're going to bring 700 people onto your lawn where there's literally laws that state that we don't even want that many people to gather in one space at one time in general during this pandemic. But when you are known to be positive, when you are going against everything that the CDC has laid out as far as its guidelines of how to prevent spread of this virus, that's negligence. And there needs to be some checks and balances or some safeguard in American politics where we say that the leader of our nation cannot become a dictator doing whatever he feels like he wants to do on any given day. This is dangerous. But Michael, when you're the president, I'm sorry, all that goes out of the window. The reality is the health of the person sitting in the Oval Office, that is different. It is no different than you. Here's the deal. If you're a United States senator or you're a member of Congress.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Sorry, that privacy stuff goes out. You are a public official. Well, not only that, Roland, but if we go back to 2016, it was Donald Trump who said that Hillary Clinton was not physically fit, physically able to do the job as president. When we look at this here, a couple of days ago, Donald Trump said, now, this may not be the most politically correct thing to say. And I know we have Dr. Ebony Hilton here, who's a doctor. She may disagree with me. But he said that coronavirus, he thinks him getting coronavirus was a gift from God. And- No, no, no... He also said, I might be immune to it. You never know.
Starting point is 00:22:29 How the hell are you immune to something you got? Hold on, Roland. Hold on. This is one of the few times I agree with Trump. I think it is a gift from God that he got coronavirus, but not a gift to him. I think it may be a gift to us. Okay? The reason why, we don't wish harm on him, but let a gift to him, I think it may be a gift to us. Okay, the reason why,
Starting point is 00:22:45 we don't wish harm on them. But let's look at this. ABCnews.com reported a couple of days ago that 34 people around, either at the White House, Kelly McEnany, people like that, White House press secretary, or people with the Trump campaign, like Chris Christie, former Governor Chris Christie, have caught coronavirus. Now, if you can't protect people that work at the White House, I'm not talking about the cooks and the butlers and things like that. But if you can't protect people like that at the White House, how are you going to protect 330 million people?
Starting point is 00:23:19 So what this is doing is showing how he is falling down on the job, how he is derelict in his duties. Now, we don't wish harm on anybody, but a lot of people think this is karma coming back on him. Hey, Rob, first of all, let me be real clear. I don't wish harm on anybody. I don't have any sympathy for stuck-on stupid people. I have zero. I mean, that's exactly where I was going. You took the words out of my mouth. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:23:48 What the medical journal's endorsement shows is that those who follow science, those who follow data, and those who have a little bit, an ounce, a mustard seed, whatever you want to call it, of common sense for their life, for their respect, for the nation, are not going to follow this man.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And so anybody that is even entertaining this, anybody is talking about a third party, anybody that's unsure who the hell are these unknown, unsure voters like? What are you what's moving your decision at this point? So I don't think there's many of those voters left. We need to make sure people get out there, vote, because this is this is your life. And this is also really the future of the whole nation because this man, he's trying to, he's actually talking right now, trying to put Obama and Biden and people in jail for nothing. He wants to be a dictator. This is not a joke. This is not practice. Everybody
Starting point is 00:24:35 needs to go out there and make sure you vote, get your friends to vote. This is not a normal election. People say that all the time, but we've had Trump. The test is over. People know exactly what he's about. He's a racist. He's crazy. He happens to have the unique combination of being both incompetent and corrupt. Those things don't mix at all. We need to get him out.
Starting point is 00:24:56 When you are unwilling to answer basic questions, when you're unwilling to say, Ebony, this is the last time he tested negative. Here's the whole deal. In fact, when he was on Sean Haley, Sean Haley last night asked the fool several times and his ass wouldn't answer the question.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Here's the deal. When you won't answer the question, that means your ass still got it. Right. And what we know is that you can test for positive for COVID-19 far past the time that you're actually infected. And that's going to be really confusing for certain people. But we know your body is still shedding viral particles.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Now, what we don't know is just how much virus you have to shed before you can actually pass that on seriously to someone else. There's not been a large enough study to see what threshold is safe. And so therefore, we say we need to base your isolation, your quarantine on certain subset of trusted norms, of which he is not out of that range of time to be isolated tomorrow for him to be having any type of 700 people come anywhere close to him. And so I would urge everyone who is thinking about attending this event
Starting point is 00:26:10 to not do it. What we see is that, like we said, Chris Christie is positive. He admitted himself to the hospital. I wish that doesn't happen. Someone admitted him to the hospital. And I don't know about you guys, but I haven't heard an update on his status. Oh, no, he's still in the hospital. He's still in the hospital. He I don't know about you guys, but I haven't heard an update on his status.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Oh, no, he's still in the hospital. He's still in the hospital. He went in Saturday. He's still in. Right. And what my question is, what is your status? Right. Well, they released no status. But here's the other deal. Here's the other deal. After the debate, Pence and his wife canceled their travel to Indiana. We heard no status there as well. We do have a status of this here. Remember, the debate commission announced that they would have a virtual debate on October 15th. Trump said, absolutely
Starting point is 00:26:53 not. That's a waste of my time. But he spent two hours on the phone today cussing with Rush Limbaugh. That's the same thing for being on the phone and then doing virtual. So the debate commission has now announced there will be no debate on October 15th as a result of Trump's stance. And we also know that on that day, Joe Biden is going to be doing a town hall with ABC News. Speaking of COVID-19 tests, South Carolina, there was supposed to be a debate tonight, Ebony, between Senator Lindsey Graham and Jamie Harrison. Harrison said, y'all, we ain't debating unless your ass take a COVID test.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And then Lindsey Graham decided to drop a letter. I love this. I'm trying to pull this up. This letter that he dropped from a doctor. He's like, I'm not going to take medical advice from my opponent. But the bottom line is Jamie Harrison basically said, I ain't debating you unless your ass take a damn test. And he said, you've been around all the rest of them people, and so
Starting point is 00:27:55 I ain't doing it. So here's the letter. Let me pull this up. Here's a letter that Lindsey Graham produced. I have reviewed the circumstances associated with your Judiciary Committee hearing of October 1st and possible exposure to a person with coronavirus. Based on the present Centers for Disease Control criteria to establish risk of coronavirus transmission, you do not meet the criteria for, quote, close contact requiring isolation or quarantine. You do not require coronavirus testing. You should remain attentive to CDC social distance guidelines for reducing risk of coronavirus disease in your daily life and contact a physician should you notice a
Starting point is 00:28:36 development of fever or any of the typical signs of coronavirus infection. Brian P. Moynihan, M.D., he's a professor of medicine and pathology in D.C. He's attending physician for the United States Congress. Here's the problem with this, Ebony. Dude, just take a test. Right. Just take a test. It's one of those things where didn't Trump say the same thing when he when he tried to do the honor system of saying that he wasn't positive when he was on the stage with Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:29:06 fully positive. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Kayleigh McEnany. She did briefings with reporters for three consecutive days, no mask and giving them, I tested negative, I tested negative, I tested negative, they came out all un-positive.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Right. And it's one of these things, honestly, where even with Trump, I think the reason why he's not saying when the last negative test was because he was not testing as he was supposed to be tested. What we need to do is subpoena the CEO of Regeneron, which is the company that had the experimental monoclonal antibody cocktail that Trump took in the White House. Go ahead and subpoena that CEO and ask them, when was the first dose of Regeneron actually given? Because if he started receiving that medicine before the debate, then he knew he was positive. There you go. And he got on stage with our future president, you know, Pence, intentionally, knowing that
Starting point is 00:30:14 he could potentially infect him. And I feel like that should be investigated. So whoever wants to take that and run with it, go ahead and have fun. Well, that's what's going on there. So look, we're dealing with stuck-on stupid people here. Bottom line, folks, is every time Donald Trump talks
Starting point is 00:30:29 coronavirus, I hope that's just one more point where his polling numbers drop. People are voting right now. Folks, vote. Polls don't mean nothing. Vote. Get this fool out because they have no plan whatsoever to actually deal with this. And when a fool stands in front of senior citizens and say, it's OK, I got it.
Starting point is 00:30:48 But you're not going to get it. But you might get it. Y'all, the man is talking crazy. The steroids are speaking or some or some other drug is speaking for him. Everybody helps. Everybody helps. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you. All right, folks, the families of Martin Luther King Jr. and Jackie Robinson demanded that Donald Trump's reelection campaign remove images of the late black icon from their new political ads. The ad is titled Say What You Will About America. The video includes pictures of both King and Robinson. Bernice King, the daughter of Dr. King, took to Twitter and called the use of her father's image beyond insulting and not reflective. Who Dr. King was, Jackie Robinson's daughter, Sharon Robinson, also tweeted that the Trump campaign does not line up. This is what she said.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Jackie Robinson's family strongly objects to the use of Jackie Robinson's image in Donald Trump. The J.R. Foundation, the Trump campaign, is in opposition to all that Jackie Robinson stood for and believed in, were insulted and demand that his image be removed. Bottom line here, Michael, this is the Republicans always want to show black Republicans. They say King was a Republican. Jackie Robinson was a Republican. Here's what we do. We know for a fact that Jackie Robinson was a Republican. We don't we don't know that with MLK. Folks said his dad was. But it's all irrelevant because the bottom line is this here.
Starting point is 00:32:06 This is the, if you got to go back to the 1960s to find you a black Republican, your ass ain't doing it right. Well, there have been a number of fact checks on this. Think Progress had, Think Progress, Think Progress Org had one a few years ago that talked about how Dr. King was not a Republican. And I've looked at information that talked about how Dr. King was not a Republican. And I've looked at information that talked about how Dr. King talked about voting for Democrats as well. But if you got to go back that far to the 50s and 60s to find a Black Republican that African Americans like, then your party has a problem. Now, I'm neither Democrat nor Republican. People who listen to my show know this, but I'm also not stupid. I
Starting point is 00:32:45 know whose policies are doing us the most harm as well. And it's usually at the national level, usually coming from Republicans. But this is more of just like Trump came out with his platinum plan, which I call the fool's gold plan, his two-page black agenda, okay, for African Americans. And it lacks specificity. It was ridiculous. And a lot of what he was proposing contradicts what he's been doing the past three and a half years. This is some more of that. He's hoping to just shave off enough African-Americans so that in these key battleground states, it can be very close and he can try to win this in the Supreme Court. And just as you covered the story from Channel 4 out of the UK, and I covered it on my show,
Starting point is 00:33:27 how in 2016, the Trump campaign identified 3.5 million African Americans, labeled them as deterrents, and then flooded them with disinformation on social media to discourage them from voting, okay? So this is some more propaganda, but I'm happy that the King family in the Robinson family came out in opposition to this. But I wonder what Dr. King's niece, Alveda King, who is a staunch Donald Trump supporter. I wonder what she had to say or I don't know. Did they get did he get permission from her to do this? Or how about how about or not the car? How about loud and wrong? Angela Stanton?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Same thing. Anything she got to say? I doubt it. Well, I mean, we should because, I mean, Angela Stanton has not done herself a good service, and they should retire her as a spokesman for this nonsense party. But I will say this. I mean, when people say and mobilize these images, acting like they don't talk about Colin Kaepernick and call the movement for Black Lives Matter terrorist groups, it's laughable. Because we know very well if Jackie Robinson or Martin Luther King were alive today, they would say the same things about those men. So it's funny that they want to deploy them as some sort of testament to their openness when we know they have done everything they can
Starting point is 00:34:45 to make black people feel unwelcome through policy and otherwise. And certainly we know this is shading the truth because people act like partisan realignment never happened. The Republicans of today are not the Republicans of yesteryear. So acting like the Dixie Crack Revolution didn't happen in 48, acting like those people didn't get absorbed in the Republican Party and that the Southern strategy that the Republican Party deployed throughout the 1960s. And when Nixon said, we're just going to leave the blacks and the Jews behind and let the Democrats have
Starting point is 00:35:13 them, right, because we're not going to pick those voters up. Don't act like that didn't happen. And I think it's the same disingenuousness that we often have. And I think it's because they know most people don't understand anything about history. But people do understand the reality of the world they live in. And if they think marshalling up some images of Martin Luther King or Jackie Robinson are going to be enough, I think they're mistaken. But Michael is correct that it can do just enough for the people on the margins. And that's the really scary part. Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, what was interesting here is that, again, when you look at the games being played here, bottom line is you got different people who are weighing in.
Starting point is 00:35:53 But you're using the images and it's not like your policies line up with where they stand. See, that's the other thing as well. And that's what Bernice King was actually saying in her particular when she said that the image should not be used because his ways strongly misaligned with his visions and values. That's what she said. Go ahead, Rob. Correct. And that's absolutely true. I will say this, like conservatives, particularly in the last 30 or 40 years, love to point to black exceptionalism as if, of course, everything's right in America. You know, Bill Cosby made it in 1940. Like Jackie Robinson, like they made it in spite of the obstacles, not because of America. And so, I mean, that's important, too. I mean, the Republican Party, which is who we're talking about, and Dr. Carter already said the realignment, they tried to act like we don't know history.
Starting point is 00:36:44 A lot of people don't. This is why we need to have this show. But let me tell you, Reagan, Reagan, when Martin Luther King Day came up, lots of Republicans were against it, including Reagan. And we know he said bad things about actually Dr. Martin Luther King and many other black people. But then he said specifically that he's not even sure if he was an American. He might have been a traitor. This country spied on Dr. Martin Luther King and did the same tactics Donald Trump is using now to go after protesters. They spied on Dr. Martin Luther King most of his entire time while he was trying to improve civil rights and make this nation better. The things that they are praising now, they hated him for. They don't stand for Black Lives Matter. They don't stand for equality.
Starting point is 00:37:23 They want to find and use his words out of context to make themselves feel better about who they are and who America is. That's not who Dr. Martin Luther King was. They don't quote from Dr. King in 1968. They don't quote from Dr. King was here with us today, he would be one of the main critics going after this president, going after his policies, and he would find him to be a moral failure. I have no doubt about it. All right, folks, a video showing a black male jogging in Boston being stopped by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has emerged and sparked outrage from the city's mayor and lawmakers. Y'all, watch this. We're all set? Yeah. Are we all set?
Starting point is 00:38:09 We're all set. We're all set? Yeah, sure. We're all set, sir? Thank you. Just wanted to make sure. Thank you. Enjoy your lunch.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Thank you. Do you have any tattoos on your left and right arm? Just so we can confirm. We'll be got it. Put me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Am I free to go? Do I have to show you? If I'm'm free to go then I'm not showing you anything
Starting point is 00:38:30 Thank you. Have a great day guys Man you see the feds try to stop me. I try to stop me in my own Yo, what this shit is crazy Hey record this just in case. Record this in case, bro, for real. The video is only a short clip of Bina Prela. The 29-year-old man was jogging in West Roxbury, Massachusetts, when he was stopped by ICE. Boston Mayor Marty Walsh, City Council Member Matt O'Malley,
Starting point is 00:39:03 and Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley expressed outrage at ICE racially profiling a member of the public. And a media investigation has been called to look further into the incident. First of all, what? So, I guess ICE is like, yo, Dr. Carter, yo, Naomi, yo, hey, we stopping any damn body. And show me your tattoos, man, take your punk ass on. But you know what this really highlights, I think, Roland, is how insecure we are in our own country. And most of the time, none of us have anything on our person that could actually prove our status. So if they were to take him and hold him, they could have done that that day.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And there would have been nothing that he had on his person in that moment to prove that he was not an undocumented person or the person that they claimed they were looking for, which is some Haitian, right? And just because he's black and out running, because I'm sure that's what a Haitian absconders from justice right now doing is running around Boston. But, you know, this nonsense that happens all the time. And it was, I'm sure, you matched the description. That's what every Black person, every Black man in particular, hears on a regular basis. You meet the description.
Starting point is 00:40:11 What's the description? Black and male. That's it. I am thankful that this man was able to go home to his family, that he was able to have a moment
Starting point is 00:40:22 where he could walk away and not have to be detained and not have to potentially be shot in the back or any of these other things. Because this is real and this is dangerous. And I tell people all the time, many of the times we are walking around moving about the world, we assume that we have things on our person that can prove we are a citizen. Your license won't do it. Your Social Security card won't do it. Unless you have a passport or a birth certificate or something like that on you, there's nothing to prove that you are a citizen and nothing to stop deputized police officers that in some places they've made quasi-immigration officials or ICE agents who are jumping out on people from detaining you. And that is the really scary fact. Bob, I hear, Michael, is these people have been emboldened by Donald Trump. Fire Donald Trump in November, ICE has to stand down. That's why he has unleashed ICE on America and let them do whatever the hell they want to do.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Absolutely, Roland. And, you know, what I want to, well, first of all, the Congressional Black Caucus has been speaking out and I saw a press conference a few months ago that a few members of the Congressional Black Caucus had. I think it was at the Southern border, if I remember correctly. I know you covered it also. But when it comes to black undocumented immigrants or even black immigrants, period, who are here legally, they are the first ones to be deported, even if they're here legally, okay? They're the first ones to be deported
Starting point is 00:41:52 and very few people actually speak up for them. So, you know, this could have easily gone the wrong direction. It's, this could have easily gone the wrong way, but I wanna know what ICE is doing to crack down on white undocumented immigrants because it's very easy for white undocumented immigrants to intermix with other white people. And there are a lot of white undocumented immigrants, but that's not talked about. So I want to see videos of ICE pursuing white undocumented immigrants to see how they handle that also. That ain't going to happen, Rob. Nope, not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:42:29 You will not find that tape. I will make 100 percent, 1,000 percent guarantee you won't. But, you know, I remember when Trump first started early off in his administration, there were some black people that were OK with this tough crackdown and even some second generation Latino immigrants that were OK with this. They were like, well, we need to be legal and all this stuff. But listen, they're going to come after you. It doesn't stop with immigrant. It's going to keep going. It's going to keep going. The black it's going to. So when you see injustice against a group, you know, it's going to come against you, particularly if you're a person of color. So we have to make sure that anywhere we see injustice, as Dr. Martin Luther King said, injustice anywhere is a threat to
Starting point is 00:43:07 justice everywhere. That's what he means. It metastasizes. It will always grow and it's always going to come to black people. So we should never be for whether it's whether it's going after Muslims, whether it's going after women, it will always come back to us anyway, period. And also, let's be clear, undocumented black immigrants live in black communities with native born black people. And the reason they're picked up more often is because our community are hyper policed. So this is also a black American native born problem. Right. These kinds of things happening. It's not just about undocumented blackism.
Starting point is 00:43:37 They didn't stop that man because they thought he was undocumented. They stopped him because he was black. Folks, 24 days, 24 days until Election Day. First of all, people are already voting across the country. Please double check your registration. Go to vote.org to do so. Again, we have emails from folks who talked about after listening to this show, realizing that they have been purged. And so we want you to go to vote.org or Iwillvote.com to check your registration. The voter registration deadlines today is the last day for North Carolina. We're going to show you those upcoming dates as well. Guys, get that graphic ready. Again, today is Idaho, New York State, North Carolina, Oklahoma. The 10th is Delaware. The 13th is Washington, D.C., Kansas,
Starting point is 00:44:21 Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, Oregon, Virginia, West Virginia. October 14th is Wisconsin. October 16th is Nebraska. And so that's in the coming weeks. So please, we want you to double check your registration. Joe Biden campaigned and released a new ad with Samuel L. Jackson on voter suppression. Check this out. Voter suppression has taken many forms. People have been denied the right to vote for well now 80 years. First, they used the poll tax
Starting point is 00:44:51 to keep black folks from voting. Then, it was the literacy test. Racial terrorism and violence. I don't want everybody to vote. New day, same old dirty tricks. There are those in power who are doing their darndest to discourage people from voting.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Calls for investigations after claims of voter suppression. President Trump sabotaging efforts to vote by mail. If your vote didn't matter, they wouldn't try so hard to take it from you. Vote early. Vote like your life depends on it. I'm exercising my right to vote and you should too. Not because I want you to, but because he doesn't. Vote, damn it, vote. Now, you also want to understand why it's important to vote when it comes to the state elections.
Starting point is 00:45:50 This is the Senate president in Kansas, Susan Wagle. This is her describing gerrymandering and how they draw districts. She said this publicly, y'all. Listen. My Senate seat that Renee Erickson is running in right now, it is pro-Biden. It's moved to the left. And during redistricting, I need to give her some more Republican neighborhoods in order to make sure she stays elected.
Starting point is 00:46:20 So redistricting is right around the corner. And if Governor Kelly can veto a Republican bill that gives us four Republican congressmen, that takes out Shereece Davis up in the third, we can do that. I guarantee you, we can draw four Republican congressional maps. But we can't do it unless we have a two-thirds majority in the Senate and House. My Senate seat. And that right there. Come on, come on. Dr. Carter, that precisely right there. That's why I keep telling people you can't ignore the state elections as well in Texas. Democrats are nine seats away from assuming control of the Texas House for the first time in a couple of
Starting point is 00:47:01 decades. That now means Republicans cannot control the process. You heard what she said. If we have a two-thirds majority, we can do what the hell we want and not listen to anything the Democrats say. Exactly. And this is going to control outcomes for at least a decade because that's when we do redistricting. This is why the census is so important and why your president currently wants to close down the census early because they don't want everyone counted. And they do want to make sure that these states are allowed to control electoral districts because they're losing ground. And they know, though, if they can control the districts, they can run the table. Because if you own that state legislature, you can really control what happens up-ballot as well. And I think this is why, you know, our hyper-focus on presidential elections
Starting point is 00:47:48 has really dulled people to the importance of statewide elections. Statewide elections are essential. And this is why the Republicans have been so successful for so long, because they're losing a share of the population, but their control doesn't suggest it, because they control most of the state legislatures
Starting point is 00:48:03 in this country because they understood the power of electoral match and state control very well. And with controlling a few down ballot races, they were able to influence what happens in our federal federal legislation in the presidency. And that's so good. Extremely important. Right. For people to pay attention, what's happening in their home state and to fill out the census as well. I know people see the crawl, but it's very important to fill out that census because people want to control your life for at least another decade. Rob, this is why people have to understand that every position does count. And so you cannot leave the top of the ticket blank, which happened in Michigan. I'm going to speak to Michael about that. In 2016, 90,000 people
Starting point is 00:48:46 left the top blank. That was the difference. Trump won Michigan by 11,000. But again, the who controls the state legislatures. Democrats completely forgot that when Obama got elected in 2008, it did not turn out in the 2010 midterm elections. 16 state legislatures flipped. And that was when the voter suppression bill started coming. That's exactly what happened. And, you know, in Ohio, you know, as you know, I ran for state office, got over two million votes. But, you know, still they purge in Ohio starting after that time, about a million people from the polls makes a big difference. Only lost a few hundred thousand votes. So it's and to Dr. Carter's point right now, not only are we do we have state legislators drawing these lines, we also have state Supreme Courts.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I can tell you, Judge Bruner and Judge O'Connor on the Democratic side, at least they can't be Democrats. But they if they're if they get elected, then they can get the majority in the in the Supreme Court in Ohio. And they are determining a law that was passed for redistricting. So they get to determine how that actually goes and if they're following, if they're interpreting the law according to how voters passed it. So all these things matter. It matters in Ohio. It matters wherever you are. Make sure you know the judges that are up statewide and local. And make sure you know the state positions, your state reps, all of them. Vote up and down the ballot. Every single one of those votes, they do matter.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Michael, about 30 seconds for you to respond before we got ahead to a break and then a simulcast with Sirius XM Radio. Go. Well, 2016, Roland, Donald Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes. I warned our people. I was doing your show,
Starting point is 00:50:20 a nationally syndicated radio show, guest host Annette doing radio here in Detroit on 9, 10 a.m. I warned our people about Trump. Everybody's seeing what I was talking about. But very quickly, in that video, that commercial from Joe Biden campaign, the white man with glasses who's telling, who's saying, we really don't want people to vote, that's Paul Weyrich. Paul Weyrich was a co-founder of ALEC, American Legislative Exchange Council in 1973. People research ALEC. These people are fighting for raw, naked power. And one of the main things we have to do is read the U.S.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Constitution. Because when we read the Constitution, then we will understand how all this comes together. And the Constitution created the census, which was first taken in 1790. So once you read the U.S. Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land along with treaties, then you start understanding how all these pieces come together and we can understand how to disarm them of this weapon and use it against them because I teach a whole principle called political self-defense. But we don't understand how these pieces come together. Well, but you also, you left out one thing. He did not just form ALEC. He also was a co-founder of the Heritage Foundation. Heritage Foundation and the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society
Starting point is 00:51:29 submitted these unqualified, also conservative federal judge nominees to Donald Trump. And just so people understand, in about September 9th, 2020, Trump released a list of 20 potential U.S. Supreme Court nominees, and Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron was one of those names on that list. Of course he is. Don't get this twisted. They're fighting for raw, naked power. And we need to do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:51:55 They control the courts for the next 30, 40 years while we're focused on the basketball court. And that's why everybody keeps talking, Rob, about demanding that Joe Biden and Senator Kamala Harris answer about packing the courts. Well, the reality is this here. They did that in Arizona. They actually added seats to the Arizona state Supreme Court. They tried to strip power from the Democrat from the state Supreme Court in North Carolina when they took control of that particular court. And when the Pennsylvania state Supreme Court ruled against them in gerrymandering, what did they do? They also tried to strip their power. That's what we're dealing with. Rob, real quick before we go to a break.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Oh, I would just say Democrats need to learn a lesson from their opponents. So they need to be aggressive for the short term. I think they should look at packing the court. I think they should make D.C. a state. Be aggressive. Get rid of the filibuster. First of all, get rid of the filibuster. Be aggressive. Don't worry about what Republicans are going to do. We know what they're going to do. They're going to take power, learn from them, and actually represent the people that you say you
Starting point is 00:52:55 represent. So when we win, we better use the power. That's all I have to say. Rob, Dr. Card, I certainly appreciate both of y'all joining me. Thanks you so very much, folks. We've got to go to a break. We come back, our simulcast with Sirius XM Radio. That is next on Roland Martin Unfiltered. You know this better than anybody else. Those who will speak our mind, we're going to be criticized.
Starting point is 00:53:19 We're going to be attacked. But that really doesn't bother us. I mean, we've been through this. And we're going to continue to go through it. And I'm just pleased that we've been able to send a signal to young people that we care about these issues so very much. We're not going to play politics with them.
Starting point is 00:53:37 We're not going to try and hide whomever we are behind the kind of language that they don't understand. And so because of that this authenticity that you're talking about is helping us to realize a whole new era and a whole new time of possibilities for young people to participate hello everyone i'm godfrey and you're watching roland martin unfiltered and while he's doing Unfiltered, I'm practicing the wobble. Hey, folks.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Hi. Welcome back to Roland Martin Unfiltered. We're about to go live with Dean Obadella. His show is already in progress on Sirius XM Radio. Folks, can y'all hear me? Guys, do we have... are we connected with them? Y'all are supposed to be connected with them right now. So let's do this here.
Starting point is 00:54:38 We're going to fire. All right. Are we there? Not yet. No, this is Matt. I'm going to plug him down. But are we having that locked in, Matt? All right, my friend, let me look in here right now.
Starting point is 00:55:01 All right, y'all, I can't hear Dean, so his audio is out. Thank you. Hey, Dean, what's going is out. Thank you. Analyst for Tom Joyner Morning Show and more. Rowan, how are you, my friend? Welcome back. Hey, Dean, what's going on? How you doing? Doing pretty good. You see, officially, the second debate was just canceled.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I thought it was canceled when Trump goes, I'm not going. I mean, but I guess it had not been. I guess behind the scenes they were talking. But just minutes ago, it was confirmed that October 15th is off. I'm going to miss the town hall setting. I hope with the last debate, October 22nd, they move to the town hall setting. That's much better. Well, I think that's one of the reasons why Donald Trump probably wanted to cancel this second debate.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Why he objected to even it being a virtual debate, because he has done so poorly when he is in front of regular, ordinary Americans. He doesn't give a damn about these folks. You think back to the town hall that was on ABC when the woman said that her mom died of breast cancer. This fool kept saying she died of COVID. And so that's what you're dealing with. We're dealing with an arrogant, narcissistic, just impetuous. He's just, I mean, this is pure evil
Starting point is 00:56:02 that is sitting in the Oval Office. And I think people cannot play games with this to understand how absolutely unhinged this man is and how he has destroyed significant norms in this country. You know what, Roland? I so appreciate that you said that, that he's evil and the bigger picture, that the media's got to stop playing these games where some have gotten really good. Don't get me wrong. In the beginning, we were all screaming, call him a liar. He's lying to us. But even like the hesitancy to use the term white supremacist,
Starting point is 00:56:33 they'll use like racially tinged and that he's playing on a white grievances. No, he's a white supremacist giving white supremacist garbage to people who he thinks are going to like that. That's what it is. I don't know the timidity of our media in the time of Trump has been stunning to watch that. But I think you've got to realize something here. And this is hard for people to have to confront. Mostly white people control media. So what you have is the individuals who are determining what our news is,
Starting point is 00:57:08 the individuals who are determining everything about our news, the people who are deciding what the focus is going to be, what can and cannot be said, are largely white men. Take your pick. Cable, broadcasts, newspapers, magazines, radios. All right. I'm just being perfectly honest. You look at all of these different companies. You look at their boards of directors. You look at who's controlling it, who the people who are running it. I don't care what it is. And there's no disrespect. I know we're on Sirius XM, but look at the leadership
Starting point is 00:57:41 of Sirius XM, Who controls the levers of power? Who is determining what these things are? I'm saying this is because as a vice president digital for the National Association of Black Journalists, you cannot expect media to report on everybody else when media won't even look at themselves. There are individuals who are white supremacists who are in media.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And so you have folks who will not call it what it is. I have consistently said that America should have listened to black people when Donald Trump ran for office. Why? Because black people saw what everybody else didn't see. That's why I use the hashtag. We tried to tell you. And so every time people go, oh, my God, we never knew it was going to be this bad.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Black folks are like, we did. We tried to tell you. I saw one of the former Clinton people who tweeted, who said, I think, what, Felipe Reigns, whatever. He said something like, no one with a straight face could admit they saw this coming. We were like, yeah, fool, we did. And so that's what, and this is what you're dealing with in this country right now. And so remember, early on, all these media people, no, we can't call him a liar because
Starting point is 00:58:54 all of us use the word lie. We have to understand that that is the intent by what he is saying, so therefore we can't use I was like, damn that, he lying. That's why I was using the hashtag TrumpLiesMatter. He lying. I agree, and I will tell you this.
Starting point is 00:59:10 The Muslim community and a third of our community is black, so it intersects. We knew how bad it was. The guy wanted to ban all Muslims from the country, and he announced it in 2015, and the crowd went crazy, and he said Islam hates us. And he said Muslims like me, we know where the terrorists are. We're just not telling people, we're like what? So we know he was bad too but I think the black community overall
Starting point is 00:59:30 was warning all of us this is going to be bad and it's been horrible you know the other thing is too and I have to say the media has been much more critical of Trump in this election cycle in 2016 which was just a ratings bonanza for them
Starting point is 00:59:44 No Dean more critical of Trump in this election cycle in 2016, which was just a ratings bonanza for them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:59:54 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And I really think the media is going to try to bring the race a little tighter in the next few weeks. They want the horse race. They don't want a 10-point gap. They don't want people going to sleep on this. But I wonder what they're going to do when Trump is gone. And cable news was struggling horribly with ratings overall. I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I don't give a damn. Put a bunch of dancing ass dolls and cats on air. I don't care. The reality is this year, this this man is pure evil. The policies of this man are not good for this country. And so what we're seeing is a destroying of the norms in America. That's what we are seeing. Guys, switch the shot. You're taking too long. Sorry, Dean. We're live on as well. So I'm like, come on. We got to move.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Go ahead. You do whatever you... Rowan hosts, directs, produces everything. Yeah, I'm sorry. Your photo's there. We got to move. I mean, come on. We got to...
Starting point is 01:00:56 Look, the bottom line is, hey, you got to be on your P's and Q's. We got to keep it going. I'm with you. So, Rowan,, you talk about Donald Trump being evil, I've never seen a man so lack of compassion, empathy, not just for other people, but for life, for life. And that we have 212,000 dead Americans and he's going to have a rally in Florida. He announced a short time ago on Monday, even though he has not tested negative, we just
Starting point is 01:01:22 learned Minnesota, at least nine people got sick from his last rally there. Two were in the hospital. And I was giving people poll numbers. Only 26% of Americans think him doing rallies during the pandemic now is appropriate. He doesn't care. This is for his ego. This is not for poll numbers. Polls are not going to go up for this.
Starting point is 01:01:42 People are going to be like, you're more erratic and more irresponsible. This is the most, I guess evil is the right word, the most sociopathic person I've ever seen, the most selfish, cruel person I've ever seen in my life because I've never dealt with serial killers. That's the only people might be worse. I haven't dealt with them. But the reality is America has seen
Starting point is 01:01:59 Donald Trump before. We've seen numerous white men like Donald Trump. Woodrow Wilson was one of the most violent racists ever to serve in the White House. He was the one who showed birth of a nation in the White House. He reintroduced segregation in the federal government. Herbert Hoover was a leader of the lily white faction of the Republican Party. I mean, we can go on and on and on. So, see, I think one of the things that we have to do is we have to recognize exactly what is going on here. We have had white supremacists sitting in the Oval Office before.
Starting point is 01:02:29 We have had individuals who are doing that. Donald Trump is simply in the long line. But the problem is we've gotten accustomed to folks saying all the right things. Donald Trump says out loud what people used to say privately. And that's why he has this hardcore white constituency that is more than happy to hear him say that. That's what we're dealing with. And so that's what we're doing. And that's what you're seeing. And what's your reaction to what we learned yesterday? I know you covered on your show with Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, who was targeted by white supremacist-tied militia. Trump does not denounce
Starting point is 01:03:06 the militia group, of course. It goes on Sean Hannity and attacks Gretchen Whitmer again by name. And if these guys were Black Lives Matter, if they were Muslims, they were Antifa, Trump would be talking about it all day. But since they're likely Trump supporters, not Biden supporters, liberating the state that he wanted liberated. He just attacks Whitmer. Nothing about the militia. Well, you gotta understand, he can't attack the militia
Starting point is 01:03:34 because the militia are his voters. They're white men. White men are the base of the Republican Party. That's what you're dealing with. That's why he said it's five people on both sides. That's why during the 2016 campaign,
Starting point is 01:03:51 he did not want to condemn, I don't know who David Duke is. What the hell are you talking about? Donald Trump, no. Everybody forgets. He descended down those escalators saying Mexicans are rapists. Donald Trump began the campaign pushing the buttons of race, pushing the buttons of aggrieved whites.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Look, I've been saying this since 2009. We are living in the world of white minority resistance, white minority resistance. That's the world that we're living in. So what does that mean? In 2009, there was a poll taken. The question was asked, are you optimistic about the future of America for your children? Black people, Hispanics, Native Americans, Asians, all, more than the majority said yes. One group said it was under majority, white Americans. September 2016, the question was asked, are you optimistic about the future of America economically for the next 10 years?
Starting point is 01:04:54 Black people, lowest wealth in America, highest optimism. Latinos, second lowest wealth, second highest optimism. Asians, number three, Second highest optimism. Asians. Number three. Third highest optimism. One group, 41 percent said they were optimistic. White Americans. What does that tell you? You got to go deeper than mustard on a hot dog. And the deal is this here. White Americans, significant numbers are scared to death of changing America. They are scared to death of 2043. They are scared to death of losing power. And let me explain power, Dean, because this is what people don't understand.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Why do white folks react so violently to Colin Kaepernick? Because if you're white in America, for the most part, I'm not saying all whites, people understand that, you have been raised, it's the flag. It's the national anthem. It's the Pledge of Allegiance with the greatest country in the world. God loves us. God adores us. God has shown favor on us. So therefore, any criticism of America, you can't stand. During World War Two, the United States actually tried to shut down and and try black newspapers for treason because they dare write about racism in the armed services. They said that black newspapers, the Chicago Defender, the Pittsburgh Courier, the the Land Daily World, others, they were aiding abetting the enemy by talking about racism, racism that
Starting point is 01:06:25 black soldiers were experiencing in the armed forces. America says, oh, well, you're black. Put all that aside, because when it comes to the war, we're all one. And so Colin Kaepernick takes a knee. How dare you take a knee? What's wrong with you taking a knee? And so because they've been raised that way. So what's changing, Dean,
Starting point is 01:06:46 is that we truly are moving for the first time to a real multicultural America where American values are being redefined. American values have been defined by whiteness. American principles have been defined the prism of whiteness. Now, all of a sudden, they have to think about what black people have to say, and Latinos, and Asians, and Muslims, and it's not just white Christian men. That is why Mitch McConnell and the Republicans are focused on packing the courts. That's why, if you look at the numbers, Amy Coney Barrett, if she is confirmed, 48 years old, if she serves as long as Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who died at 87, means she will be on a Supreme Court for the next 39
Starting point is 01:07:32 years. That means that right now, Brett Kavanaugh is, excuse me, Gorsuch is 53 years old. He'll be there 34 years. Kavanaugh is 55. He'll be there for what? 32 years. Alito is, excuse me, Roberts is 65. He'll be there 22 more years. Alito is 70. He'll be there 17 more years. Clarence Thomas is 72. He'll be there 15 more years. That's why they're picking largely white men between the ages of 35 and 45 for these district judge and appellate positions. Do you realize that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has long been considered the most liberal court in the country and they are on the verge of having a conservative majority? It is because they want to ensure that whiteness continues to dominate American society for
Starting point is 01:08:22 the next 30 to 40 years because they know it's not going to happen at the ballot box. That is what's going on in America. I agree with you. I'm talking with Roland Martin, host of Roland Martin's Unsiltered Daily Digital Show. So Roland, though, it just becomes more acute for white people and they really get a sense they are going to be the minority, not theoretically, but literally. It's going to be already happening in the younger generations. They see it. Is there a hope that the younger people who are growing up in a multicultural America already are at ease with it, at least partly at ease with it? Yes. Or does it get more ugly and get more violent going forward? Because white
Starting point is 01:08:56 supremacy, the history of white supremacy tells us they don't give up power nicely. They use violence to stay in power. Right. So where are we going? Well, first of all, that one of the reasons you're seeing one of the reasons you're seeing this change right now with in the aftermath of George Floyd's death is because you have young white folks who are aligning with African-Americans and others. And so that's what the scaring of corporate America, corporate America and contributing as not sitting here talking about spending three, four or five billion dollars on social justice because black people are protesting. Hell, we were protesting when Obama was president. No, all of a sudden they saw white folks out there protesting. And when you have white folks aligning with black people, which was the exact same thing that happened in the late 1800s,
Starting point is 01:09:36 when you saw free slaves aligning with poor whites who then begin to change states in the South, all of a sudden, Dr. King, if you go back and listen to his speech that he gave after the Selma to Montgomery March, he said in that speech, quoting a particular book, where the white folks got with the black folks and then begin to change things and the bourbon class said, oh, hell no, we can't have this.
Starting point is 01:09:58 So they begin to use media. He literally says media to create a wedge between black people, freed slaves and poor white folks. And that's what Jim Crow came into existence. What we have seen is the same thing. The Republican Party, the party, a big, big corporate interest has always been able to convince broke as white people to vote with them against their own economic interests. And they're walking around trying to figure out, you know, who are we? I saw some fool literally tweet today by saying, oh, did neoliberal economic policies
Starting point is 01:10:30 cause these white supremacists to be in this militia, and they showed this poor, this broke-down house? I blasted this fool by saying, hell, if being poor causes you to be, to all of a sudden become radicalized, then black people and Native Americans would have long had militias fighting America if it was based upon economics. And so what you're now seeing is you're seeing this baby boomer generation, that generation after them,
Starting point is 01:10:56 and also those in GNX fighting because they're seeing how we are changing and developing. Look at the percentage of interracial marriages in this country. Look at what is happening in terms of where we're living. That's why Donald Trump is saying, hey, I'm going to keep all of the blacks and the Latinos out of the suburbs. He is yelling to suburban white men and women
Starting point is 01:11:17 that I changed the policy and he was aided by an ignorant fool in Dr. Ben Carson who went along with it as the Secretary of housing, urban development. These are the strategies that have been used to order to maintain white supremacy order. But the problem is this here. We don't like using the phrase white supremacy because, oh, no, that's just that's just that. Do you have to use that word? Yes. You have to call some things what they are because see America has said, no, white supremacist means a person with a Nazi Nazi symbol or somebody with a, with a clan robe. No,
Starting point is 01:11:53 there are people who are white supremacists sitting in corporate America right now who responsible for determining who gets houses. That's why when you saw the report of black people who have houses appraised, a white appraiser comes out, appraises the house, $60,000 to $100,000 less. Then all of a sudden, it's got a second appraisal. Then it goes up. Well, how's that racism, Roland? Easy. Because when you appraise a black person's house for $60,000 to $100,000 less, that means you are now impacting the economics of black America because you're keeping that money from them. That's how we got redlining in this country. That's why a home in Prince George's County, Maryland,
Starting point is 01:12:29 could actually sell for less than a comfortable home in Montgomery County, Maryland, because Prince George's County, Maryland, is largely black. Montgomery County is largely white. And so we have institutionalized racism. And then when you've got that step for the husband, Mike Pence, who sits on the debate stage and say, Senator, I'm sorry, I don't see what y'all see implicit bias. That's because you are a you are a clear, almost damned pink eyed white man who cannot understand the reality of race in this country. And so it is changing. But we simply are saying we ain't waiting like our ancestors did.
Starting point is 01:13:06 We want freedom now. And, Roland, do you think it, what does it mean to you? Is it optimistic to you, the fact that Trump has done the suburban thing? It's unreal. I mean, and Cory Booker's coming to your neighborhood, and I've had white women call you who live in the suburbs going, I hope Cory Booker comes to my neighborhood. I'm looking forward to that.
Starting point is 01:13:25 That it's not working this time. He's losing the suburban vote, which is also code for white people, to be blunt. In this scenario we're talking about, there are people of color in the suburbs, of course. I'm not sure they— Does it mean something to you? You have to wait until Election Day until it's over? I'm not— See if that really happens.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Look, I need white folks to convince me of that. See, look, here need white folks to convince me of that. See, look, here's what I know. In America, whiteness has ruled supreme. Take you back to 2016.
Starting point is 01:13:55 How many people said when the Access Hollywood tape ain't no way in the world a woman is going to vote for Donald Trump? Yep. 53% of white women voted for Donald Trump because they will choose their tax cuts over sexism. They will choose their tax cuts over race. And so that's what you're seeing right now. When you see folks like James Baker
Starting point is 01:14:28 give an interview with the New Yorker, and he says he was just so offended by Trump, but I'm a Republican. And that means that even though Donald Trump is there, we are in power. This, Dean, is about power. It's about folks who stay in control. And the reality is the Democratic Party is a far more multicultural party, has a much bigger tent than the Republican Party.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Republican Party is about appealing to base of whiteness. Now, I know there are people who are listening right now to you on Sirius XM. And there are people right now who are who are saying, oh, I disagree with that, but the reality is, and you must accept it, that history is what it is. And then, of course, when the people say, yeah, but we elected Obama, I've got to remind these same people. When Thurgood Marshall was chosen for the United States Supreme Court, it's not like racism in the criminal justice system somehow went away. When Doug Wilder was chosen the governor of Virginia, it's not like races all of a sudden just dissipated in the state of Virginia. The Confederate flags did not come down. The Confederate monuments are still up. When Deval Patrick became the governor of Massachusetts, it's not like racism all of a sudden went away. A story was done a couple of months ago showing the top company,
Starting point is 01:15:43 the top public companies in Massachusetts don't even have one black board member on the boards of directors. And so how did two terms of a black governor somehow change everything? See, we've gotten used to this whole notion being black that, oh, if one black person, something happens, everything changes. That's why you got some white people in America who think that black people, what's wrong with y'all? Y'all got Michael Jordan. You got Oprah. You got Tiger. Aren't all the rest of y'all doing just as good?
Starting point is 01:16:10 That's the mindset that we have to actually change in this country. And it's what you say about the GOP plays to the white base. Right now, there are in Congress, between the Senate and the House, there are two black Republicans, and one of them is leaving, Will Hurd, at the end of the year. There will likely be more QAnon supporters in the Republican caucus come the new year than black Republicans. The other one is Tim Scott in the Senate, and yet Will Hurd in the House, and Will's leaving. So it's remarkable.
Starting point is 01:16:41 In the last minute here, Roland, when you look at 2020 right now, you see the campaign Joe Biden is running. What's your reaction? Is he doing the right thing? Is he reaching out to the black community, communities of color? Is he building the coalition he needs to? Look at you look at the numbers. He is not at Obama levels in 2008 and 2012. He is doing better when it comes. He is pulling support from Trump when it comes to older white voters, when it comes to college educated whites as well. Trump is underperforming when it comes to whites without a college degree. But the reality is, is here and I've said I've said this directly to the Biden campaign. You have to leave no doubt they need to be going even more aggressive after black men.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Don Trump, you see Don Trump is running all of these Jack Brewer ads during NFL games because they're trying to target black men. Jared Kushner told me two years ago they believe they can get upwards of 20 percent of the black male vote in the 2020 election. You also see. But see, the key is, though, is not I can get black votes if I can stop black folks from voting. It's the same thing. 2016, Donald Trump actually said repeatedly, he thanked black people for not voting. Voter suppression is there to keep us from voting. Republicans know if they can shrink the electorate, they stand a better chance of winning. If the electorate grows, they know they're toast. The Georgia Republican House leader said, if we do mail-in balloting for the whole state, then we get where we lose all races.
Starting point is 01:18:09 That's why they're fighting mail in balloting. That's why Governor Greg Abbott wants to get rid of trying to prevent the drop boxes more than one in each county. Why? Because Democrats are nine seats away from taking control of the Texas House. That's what you're seeing. The same thing in Ohio. And so people have to understand every vote counts. And like the movie Remember the Titans, when my man said, Herman, leave no doubt. Bury Trump. Destroy Trump. Beat him into submission to where they can't try to steal it.
Starting point is 01:18:40 That is what has to happen to get rid of this malignant cancer that is destroying the soul of this nation. Amen. I agree with you 100 percent, Roland. It's got to be a huge victory, no doubt whatsoever. This man will cheat and do anything he has to, including calling on his militia people to rise in the streets. And if we defeat him clearly and soundly, America will see the truth. So, Roland, my friend, thank you very much. It's great chatting with you, and I love your stuff on Twitter. I retweet you when I see it, and I appreciate your time. Dean, I appreciate it, and also I've got a great chance for our viewers and listeners
Starting point is 01:19:15 to hear you on your SiriusXM radio, so great simulcast here. Thanks, brother. I appreciate it. Nice chatting to you, Roland. Not a problem. Take care. All right, folks. That was Dean Obudela.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Of course, he is with Sirius XM Radio. Time for us to go to commercial break. When we come back, we're going to talk with the sister. She's running for the United States Senate in Tennessee. She upset the Chuck Schumer handpicked candidate. She only raised $8,200. How can she win the Senate seat in Tennessee? Can she have a second upset?
Starting point is 01:19:48 That's next. Roland Martin unfiltered. 53 million white women who voted for Trump in the last presidential election were yielding to those dark forces that are invisible, but are visible if we want to make them visible. And so our movement sought to make those forces visible so that we could see them and then we could dissolve them. We could fight back, we could resist, we could create an alternative vision of what we could become. Yo, what's up? This your boy Ice Cube. What's up? I'm Lance Gross,
Starting point is 01:20:23 and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Alright, folks, there are a number of anti-Trump ads. I love every single one of these ads. Ooh, Lord! Press play. Wearing a face mask, I won't be doing it. These Republicans followed Donald Trump's lead. They ignored the advice of scientists and doctors.
Starting point is 01:20:53 They didn't wear masks and they didn't socially distance. They contracted COVID-19. But what about the people you can't see? The over 120 Capitol Hill contractors and frontline workers and Capitol Police employees who have now tested positive. The waiters, the assistants, the people who make the food, who serve the food, the people who clean up, the people who didn't get a choice. They don't get airlifted to a hospital. They don't get experimental drugs that are not available to the rest of the country.
Starting point is 01:21:26 They don't get their name and their face on TV. They just get sick. Donald Trump has made it clear he doesn't care about the risks to American workers. Your neighbor, your coworker, that's who you're protecting having this mask on. Joe Biden cares. He cares about this country and about every person
Starting point is 01:21:46 in it. This is important. And I want to add, Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking. It is asking too much of the people. It is asking too much of the people. Well, Susan, thank you. Although I would like to go back to— I think we need to move on to the issue of— Well, thank you, but I would like to go back— In 1864— Well, I'd like you to answer the question. Yes, please.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking. Okay. Thank you, Vice President Pence. We still learn from it, and I think the American people, I want to say again, can be proud— Vice President Pence, I'm sorry, your time is up. —of what we have done. She has—
Starting point is 01:22:24 Fifteen seconds, because— Well, because I got to have more than that. Look, I'm sorry, Vice President, but you've had more time than she's had. The truth and the fact is Joe Biden has been very clear. He will not raise taxes on anybody who makes less than $400,000 a year. He said he's going to repeal the Trump tax cuts. Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking. If you don't mind letting me finish, we can then have a conversation. OK, please.
Starting point is 01:22:46 OK. You are aware of certain kinds of protesters, but in Michigan, when protesters carry guns and Confederate flags and swastikas and call for the governor of Michigan to be beheaded and shot and lynched. Somehow you're not aware of that. Somehow you didn't know about it. So you didn't send federal agents in to do to the president's supporters what you did to the president's protesters. So the point I'm trying to make here, Mr. Barr, that I think is very important for the country to understand is that there is a real discrepancy in how you react as the attorney general, the top cop in this country. When white men with swastikas storm a government building with guns, there is no need for the president to, quote, activate you because they're getting the president's personal agenda
Starting point is 01:23:37 done. But when black people and people of color protest police brutality, systemic racism, and the president's very own lack of response to those critical issues, then you forcibly remove them with armed federal officers, pepper bombs, because they are considered terrorists by the president. You take an aggressive approach to Black Lives Matter protests, but not to to right wing extremists threatening to lynch the governor fits for the president's benefit. Did I get it right, Mr. Barr? Hi, perhaps you recognize me.
Starting point is 01:24:21 It's your favorite president. I got back a day ago from Walter Reed Medical Center. I went in. I wasn't feeling so hot. And within a very short period of time, they gave me Regeneron. A short 24 hours later, I was feeling great. And that's what I want for everybody. If you're in the hospital and you're feeling really bad, Regeneron. We have hundreds of thousands of doses that are just about ready.
Starting point is 01:24:42 You're going to get better. You're going to get better really fast. Regeneron. Because I feel great. I feel like perfect. I want to get for you what I got. And you'll see some amazing things happen. You're going to get better. You're going to get better fast, just like I did. Oh, my God. That is absolutely hilarious ad from the folks with Lincoln Project. I want to bring you back Michael Imhotep, who joins us, and Joseph Williams with U.S. News and World Report. I want to talk about, though, that Representative Pramilia Jayapal ad, Michael. That was, first of all, the ad was from the folks with Really American. But that was so strong and powerful because she's right. Bill Barr will not speak out against white supremacists. Only Christopher Wray, the FBI director, Bill Barr. And so, again, this just simply reinforces they are the Trump folks are appealing
Starting point is 01:25:39 to these angry white men, these white domestic terrorists. She nailed his ass to the wall. Absolutely. She nailed them. And I want to see more ass like that because that gets straight to the point. And what that does is that ties into Christopher Wray, that ties in FBI Director Christopher Wray, his testimony right around September 17th, 2020, and he said that the white domestic terrorists, they're the most lethal threat to America. But then also we see what happened here in Michigan. They've been talking about this all day on 9, 10 a.m. The Superstation and radio station my show was on here in Detroit. And then we see that on top of all of this, because Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Governor Michigan, our governor, she called out Donald Trump in a
Starting point is 01:26:33 press conference yesterday, if I remember correctly, and really laid this at his feet. She's correct. Because I remember April 17th, 2020, when Donald Trump tweeted, liberate Michigan, and encouraged these white men to go to the state capital. And they were armed with assault rifles. Right. So then he has the nerve to say that Governor Gretchen Whitmer did not thank him for the FBI and authorities breaking up this this plot to kidnap members of the government in Michigan and possibly assassinate some of them, especially her. So what we see here, brother, is we see, as my friend Dr. Greg Carr calls them, the white nationalist party. We see the white nationalist party in cahoots with a lot of these white supremacists. And lastly, a Michigan State Attorney General,
Starting point is 01:27:26 Dana Nessel, she was interviewed by Katie Turr on MSNBC, and she did some other interviews, also CBS News. And she talked about how they have seen these white supremacist nationalist organizations in the state capitol, hobnobbing with law enforcement, hobnobbing with members of law enforcement at these protests, things like this. And this is another dimension to this as well. So brother, this is why these are critical times. We have to stay vigilant and we have to pay attention to what's going on. And we have to protect ourselves also, because the Second Amendment applies not just to white people, but African Americans.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Again, when you see the lack of anything from Bill Barr, the fact that he is saying nothing about these arrests, it was a U.S. attorney, 20 different people, Joseph, who have been arrested. And again, you know, Trump, really, his only comment is blasting the governor. They this is their base. So folks should not be shocked. In fact, I'm going to try to find the video. There's this white sheriff in the white sheriff in Michigan who was on stage at a anti mask rally with two of these white men who was arrested. And this fool actually tried to say, well, they could have been trying to arrest the governor and the law allows for a felony arrest. A white sheriff is literally trying to come up
Starting point is 01:28:55 with a defense for these white domestic terrorists. Joseph. Well, it's not anything new. I mean, we've seen this throughout Trump's presidency. I mean, think about some of the bizarre statements that he's made, including on the death of George Floyd. He said George Floyd would be happy that he signed a bill, you know, that George Floyd was a tragic death.
Starting point is 01:29:13 But you know, things have this has been a pattern. And we as far as the nexus between law enforcement and white supremacy, that one goes back for a long time to think about the people who were involved in a lot of the civil rights murders. Many of them wore stars and badges on their chests. Think about the militiamen who shot two people during the protests in Michigan. It's not unusual. And the problem here is that we've got so many guns
Starting point is 01:29:38 in the population that anybody can take up arms and nobody will blink an eye. And I think also the problem here is the fact that if we had a functional Justice Department, if we had a functional presidency and an executive branch, we would not have necessarily these problems with militiamen running around thinking that they're going to kidnap politicians and overturn the state and spark what they think is a revolution. I mean, that's not how it goes. So I think that one of the things we need to do is look back hard at the Justice Department,
Starting point is 01:30:10 look back hard at what they're doing and what they're not doing and what the Trump administration is keeping them from doing. Look at what Bill Barr has done. Look at what members of Congress on the Republican side, on the Judiciary Committee, and those sorts of assignments have done. I think by the time this presidency is over, we're going to have seen a lot of stuff under the rug that will just blow our minds, not like what we've seen already hasn't been bad enough. We're going to find out a lot of things and a lot of close calls that we had that nobody really addressed and that probably would have taken, some people would have taken to the grave if they'd been able to. It's going to be a long time cleaning up after this one.
Starting point is 01:30:46 And I think also, Michael, I think what we have to recognize is that there is going to have to be a true reckoning. What I mean by a true reckoning, I don't think people understand how white supremacists and these folks have infiltrated law enforcement, have infiltrated the Marine. There has to be a purge. There has to be a massive purge in this country. We had the woman on with the group where they discovered this private Facebook chat group. These cops were hurling racist, sexist messages around. And these were cops from police departments all across the country. And so we have to understand that.
Starting point is 01:31:24 We did the story. It was a Louisiana TV station. I think it was out of Baton Rouge. Uh, this story on, uh, a member of a drug task force, a state trooper, uh, who call another cop the N word. And that, that, that, that officer still has his job and is still undercover in New Orleans. This station went so far as to publish this guy's photo and name because they were saying, so what do you think if he called a black man who's a fellow cop the N-word, could he very well railroad black folks in his cases? That's the kind of stuff that we have to understand is going on in this country. Absolutely. And when we look at this history of policing, and in addition to being the host of the African History Network show, I'm also a historian,
Starting point is 01:32:13 I know there's an increased, there's a wave of white supremacist infiltrating law enforcement. But when I do an analysis, they've always been in law enforcement. It's just, I think it's getting worse and we're learning more about it. But it's important for us to understand white supremacists have always been in law enforcement. Okay, now that does not mean that we should tolerate it or it's acceptable. The other thing is, as these white supremacists become exposed, as they get fired, because we're seeing this in different cities. We've also seen that here in the city of Detroit with Detroit Police Department as well, certain incidences and white officers being fired. It's important for African-Americans to understand at the end of the
Starting point is 01:32:56 day, many of us are going to have to apply to the police department and become the type of officers we say we want to see. The officers who serve and protect, the officers who live in the community and protect the community that they live in. At the end of the day, many of us are going to have to apply to the police department and become those officers because that's one less spot for white supremacists
Starting point is 01:33:19 to be an officer as well. Again, Joseph, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. One thing that I wanted to talk about, I mean, you make a very good point and a very strong point, but the thing that echoes through my mind, I mean, I'm an old cop reporter. A lot of times the police departments themselves are a culture of white supremacy. Even black officers sometimes fall prey to this, even though black officers are supposed to be the ones that are protecting and serving and looking out for the community. When they become a part of the culture, the question gets asked, are you black or are you blue? And nine times out of 10, the answer is blue until those officers get into trouble.
Starting point is 01:33:53 And then it's a whole other problem. So I think that while your point is spot on, I think the culture itself needs to be destroyed. It needs to be dismantled. It needs to be taken down. And we need to rebuild police departments and reimagine policing from the ground up. Now, the problem that you have with that is that too many departments are controlled by unions. Too many other departments are controlled by politicians. And that is a very dangerous combination, especially when it comes for African-Americans and trying to make sure that policing is not only fair, but also responsible and accountable. Too often, we have no accountability
Starting point is 01:34:28 with police departments. And that I think is one of the hugest problems with police violence and police allowing to get away with this. Where there is no accountability and the culture is allowed to flourish, so you need to just break it down and start rebuilding from square one
Starting point is 01:34:42 with a culture of accountability and fairness for everybody. If you want to if you want to understand how the Trump folks are focused on and appealing to racists, look at this. training in every division, including for immigration judges that regularly hear cases of persecution based on religion, LGBT status and gender. Not only that, folks. So not only that, just yesterday, just yesterday, this same department all of a sudden filed a lawsuit against the folks at Yale over what? Yes, admissions, admissions and where race comes up. But not only that, I'm going to post one more. Let me find the article. I sent it to our folks.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Not sure we have it in the script. The Labor Department. Yes. The Labor Department, they are now targeting. They are now targeting companies. So, you know, you've had these companies, Microsoft, NBC News and others, announce the hiring of black staffers. They're going to commit to hiring these. They're now targeting these companies. This is unbelievable. Y'all, they're targeting these companies to say, oh, here it is, to say, hmm, are you instituting quotas? Look at this here. This is from The Wall Street Journal. Numerical diversity hiring targets attract government scrutiny. have included specific numerical goals in their pledges to increase diversity, arguing that these resemble illegal quotas and could potentially discriminate against white applicants
Starting point is 01:36:30 and other groups, according to people familiar with the matter. These people, Michael, I mean, it is not more clear that they are hell-bent on running a white supremacist campaign. Well, you know, Roland, all this, we see this common thread all across the board. And as Dr. Francis Cress Wilson, who I knew and had interviewed before, and as Nellie Fuller have taught us, if you do not understand European white supremacy and racism, what it is and how it
Starting point is 01:37:05 works, everything else that you think you understand will totally confuse you. When you look at the article from Forbes.com, U.S. Labor Department investigating Microsoft over its commitment to increase Black representation in workforce, there was a representative from Microsoft who retorted back. His name is Dev Stalkoff. He retorted back to the Labor Department and said that Microsoft is a full whale, they know full whale how to appropriately create opportunities for people without taking away opportunities from others. So what you hear, what you see here, the same attack that Trump is making on the 1619 project, even though there's some flaws with the 1619 project, but the same attack he's making there, the same attack he's making on diversity training, he's making here when it comes
Starting point is 01:37:56 to what Microsoft is doing and other companies, okay? So what they want to do is control all of this opportunity and to lock African Americans out of these opportunities and non-white people, but at the same time, try to give us a two-page platinum plan, which is a fool's gold plan to stay in power to keep inflicting harm upon us. So this is some moral, but this is reason number 453, why Donald Trump must be voted out of office. Uh, folks, uh, we're, we're also looking at a lot of different races across the country. One of them is a race for the United States Senate in Tennessee. Markeeta Bradshaw as a democratic candidate for that seat, uh, in what she calls a Markeeta versus Goliath race against the Trump endorsed Republican
Starting point is 01:38:45 candidate, Bill Hagerty. Now, she's the only African-American woman running for the Senate in the entire country this cycle. She, of course, beat a highly favored Democratic challenger in the primary who was supported by Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, who raised a lot of money. She raised eighty two hundred bucks and beat him. She joins us right now. Marquita, welcome to Roller Martin Unfiltered. Thank you for having me. So what's your plan?
Starting point is 01:39:17 How do you you're running in the deep red state? Folks say you have no shot whatsoever. They said the same thing when you ran for the in the primary. You only raised eight two hundred bucks. But you're you said, look, you focused on organizing them on the ground. How can you win in November? The way that I win in November is how I've been doing over twenty five years, and that's organizing. And it's relational organizing. That's how you win any type of political campaign. And Tennessee is not a red state. We rank at the bottom when it comes to voting. There are a lot of people that are getting engaged in this process for the first time and some who have lost faith that want to see a person that represent their issues in a United States Senate.
Starting point is 01:40:11 And that's how I will win. On that particular point. And so so where you where you where you're saying is, look, there are lots of people out there who have checked out of the process. If I can stir them up and go to the polls, that is how you can beat a heavy favorite in Tennessee. That's well, you as like before, nobody saw me coming because they weren't on the ground talking to the people like I was. And I've been talking to people all over the state of Tennessee since I entered a race last year. I'm running because Tennessee deserves to have a leader in Washington who faced the same issues that they do and not another millionaire who's disconnected from people's everyday struggles. So you say you've been going across the state. What have you been hearing and what groups have you been engaging with? Are you seeing folks who are normally conservative and Republican dissatisfied with what they're seeing out of the party and Trump?
Starting point is 01:41:17 Are you seeing a lot of folks who are considered liberal or progressive who have long given up thinking my vote doesn't count now saying hey it can't matter our our voting base has been disengaged from the process because they've lost faith in the system and the elect officials who who are supposed to represent them but they never seem to act in people's best interests we're running a people power campaign and you can't really buy this election because recreating a movement instead. In the primary, we shocked everybody across the country because they underestimated the enthusiasm for people wanting healthy and safe communities where they live, learn, work, worship, and recreate. And we have foundational pillars that we talk about. Everybody needs health care. People need an economy that's built around working people, education with high quality, high quality
Starting point is 01:42:14 education for every child, and an environment with a just transition away from pollution. Because right now, our industries are based on pollution and pain, and we have to move away from pollution if we want to save our planet and also people's health. Questions. Joseph Williams, you got a question for Makita? Ms. Brashoff, nice to meet you. And I'm a Tennessee guy. I grew up in Hamilton County, around Chattanooga. So good luck to you. What I'd like to know is you beat the Democratic challenger, the guy who was the woman who's backed by the establishment. Has the D double C or D double C come to your aid? Number one, are they offering you some money? And number two, your platform sounds a lot like the progressive in that Bernie Sanders would really warm to. Has he contacted you and is he supporting you in this race?
Starting point is 01:43:06 Actually, we have been endorsed by Bernie Sanders. We have been endorsed by Mary Ann. We've been endorsed by Cory Booker. We've been endorsed by ALC, the DSCCC. They're still listening, but as of now, no money yet. Is it possible to win without the DSCC's help? I won it before and I can do it again. Michael, question for Markita.
Starting point is 01:43:37 Yes. Hello, Markita. This is Michael in the hotel. Question for you. This is a U.S. senator. How many votes do you think that you would need to win this race? We estimated about 2.5 million votes. About 2.5 million votes statewide. So just curious, what has, how do you see your coalition to get to those 2.5 million votes? Just curious, what percentage, how does the votes break down per race? What percentage do you think will come from African-Americans in general?
Starting point is 01:44:14 What percentage from Hispanics? What percentage from white people? Have you figured that out yet? We have done an analysis by county by county. We know exactly what votes we should get from each county. We actually we started this analysis in March of last year for not only the primary, but the general. So this is a well thought out plan.
Starting point is 01:44:37 I saw the plans of victory last March when I started really digging in deep and doing this statistical analysis of what it would take to win this race. And because I have been a longtime community organizer in my South Memphis community and all across this state as a community activist and doing international work, we were able to dig in deep and build a wide coalition of voters in the primary that was a great foundation. And these were the voters that would normally not get involved in a process, that were not connected to organizations. And to be able to build a coalition and making everybody you meet an organizer it builds out your political relational political program in a way that you will secure uh that i'll secure the general because i'm not working by myself this is a we movement. This is a people-powered movement. And if we get money, that's great. You can
Starting point is 01:45:47 come now or you can come later. But we will win in the general and I will be installed January 3rd, 2021. One last question if I could, Rose. Yeah, go ahead. A lot of times when we have elections, when it's during
Starting point is 01:46:03 the presidential election, a lot of times people will focus on the president but not focus on the Senate and not understand how critical and important the U.S. Senate is. Can you explain some of the duties that the U.S. Senate does? There are only two per state, OK, for the U.S. Senate. Can you explain some of the duties and responsibilities of a U.S. Senate so people can understand how important that Senate seat is? The U.S. Senate seat confirms the nomination for the Supreme Court. They also confirm the treaties that we go into. And they also do something that's very important, that a lot of communities in Tennessee have been disenfranchised from the system and pretty much divested from. And so they do also determine the actual federal budget and confirm the federal budget when
Starting point is 01:46:59 it comes to appropriations based on the census. So everybody do your census to make sure and ensure that when you elect me as your next United States Senator, that I have all the tools to make sure that you're able to build out your communities the way you want them to. Because the U.S. Senator has so much control over how our funding comes into our state and our local governments and even in our schools. Our schools should be fully funded from the federal level, the same as our military. And I know what I am supposed to go to the U.S. Senate to do because I've been building a people's platform full of Tennessee voices all over the state, not only in the primary. We have continued to do this during this general race, and we are not finishing. We are actually opening up our offices across the state to show my commitment to be available and transparent to voters in the election process and my commitment to keep that same level of engagement
Starting point is 01:48:06 once I'm elected as the next United States Senator of the great state of Tennessee. All right then, Marquita Bradshaw. I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much for joining us on Roller Bar unfiltered. Good luck. And could you tell everybody to go to marquitabradshaw.com to learn about more information about the campaign, to get involved. Even if you're not in the state of Tennessee, you can volunteer from your couch, call from your couch, and also there's that donate button at the top of the page. Thank you. No need to tell them. You just did. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Final story, folks. Charleston, South Carolina, police arrested attorney Jason Taylor yesterday, charging him with pointing and presenting a firearm at a person. No, y'all. It wasn't just a person. OK, he was a black cadet. A Charleston police black cadet with the police corps cadet responding to a complaint of loud music playing. The cadet was taking part in a ride along with the officer. While they were taught walking, the cadet said he saw Taylor standing in his driveway pointing a gun at him. Taylor told the cadet to get off his property. Taylor put his handgun on his porch after the officer identified the cadet. Taylor's white. The cadet is black. That's America, Joseph.
Starting point is 01:49:30 You know what? Nothing surprises me anymore. I mean, we've got white people with guns, you know, threatening to kill a duly elected governor. You know, we've got a president who actively encourages these sort of things. These are the times that we're living in. I mean, if Biden wins, he's going to have a whole lot to clean up and a whole not very much time to clean it up in. I mean, he's only got four years to make his mark. He better get the hustling when he gets inaugurated in January. Michael, final comment.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Brother, this is Trump's America. The America that he said was going to go crazy if Biden became president's happening right now under Trump. So this is why this show is so important, so we can expose these white supremacists, white nationalists, and we have to defeat Trump and defeat the white nationalist party. All right, then. Gentlemen, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. All right, folks, that is it for us. Please, if we want you to support Roller Market Unfiltered, please go to our supporters via Cash App, PayPal. You can do, of course, Venmo, Money Order as well.
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