#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Detroit Early Voting, TX Redistricting showdown, Trumpflation, Black Youth Mental Health Crisis
Episode Date: August 5, 20257.31.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered:Detroit Early Voting, TX Redistricting showdown, Trumpflation, Black Youth Mental Health Crisis Early voting is underway in Detroit's high-stakes mayoral primary. Det...roit City Council President Mary Sheffield is here to explain why she should be the city's next leader. In Texas, tensions are boiling over as Republicans push to redraw congressional maps that could give them five more seats. We'll take you to "ground zero" of this political power grab and talk to Tarrant County Commissioner Alisa Simmons, who's calling it out as racist and dangerous. And a silent crisis is growing: the rise of mental health struggles among Black youth. We have a licensed psychotherapist joining us to discuss this urgent issue and why suicide is on the rise among our youth. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC. This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjs (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Folks, you'll have heard me say numerous times, every election matters, especially local elections.
Well, there's a big May-Oriole election taking place in Detroit on Tuesday.
Lots of candidates running.
One of the folks that's running is Mary Sheffield, council president.
Of course, when you look at polling data, she's leading in the polls, but you know what?
It all comes down to, you know,
fighting for every single vote.
She's been on the city council since 2013.
There are eight other people in the race as well.
Mary Sheffield joins us right now.
Good to see you again.
I saw you a few weeks ago when I was in Detroit
picking up an award from the NAACP there.
And so y'all, of course, y'all didn't know backstage,
I was messing with her because she was going over her speech.
I was like, just speak off the cuff.
Just don't even read, don't even read the speech.
All right, glad to have you here.
Why do you want to be Mayor of Detroit?
Well, thank you for having me, Roland.
Always good to hear you and I can't see you, but I can hear.
It's all good, I'm here.
Okay, all right. We can see you.
We can see you, we're good. All you. It's all good, I'm here. Okay, all right. We can see you. We can see you, we're good.
All right, but I'm running from there
because Detroit has so much potential
and we've made tremendous progress.
I mean, everyone, not just in Detroit,
but really around the country has talked about
and is seeing the resurgence of our city.
But in the midst of that resurgence,
there are still far too many neighborhoods,
there's still far too many people who have not felt the growth and progress of our city.
And as a lifelong Detroiter, someone who was born and raised in Detroit, I have a deep
passion and love for our city.
And I've served this city the last 12 years, working to lay the foundation to help the
city emerge from the largest municipal bankruptcy in the country.
I feel that it is my obligation
to ensure that the growth and the momentum and the resurgence continues in a way that's
equitable and that is actually touching more people here in the city of Detroit.
That's an important point because we looked at a lot of the expansion that's taken place
over the last eight years.
Mike Dugan has been the mayor.
I've heard from people who say,
hey, it's benefited developers,
but not necessarily small businesses.
And at the end of the day, if you don't have residents,
I mean, you can have brand new buildings,
brand new shiny things,
but you still kind of need people
in order for a city to grow and prosper.
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
And when we talk about actually taking Detroit to the next level in Detroit,
rising higher than what it is today,
this next administration has to be focused on how do we actually get people to
not just come and patronize our businesses, come to our downtown,
but actually see themselves living in our city.
And so my focus is going to always be how we build walkable, vibrant neighborhoods,
how we're creating a place where families once again can live in Detroit in order for us to
grow our population and really take Detroit to the next level. Because as you mentioned,
we can build buildings and invest in our downtown and midtown. But ultimately,
we want people to see themselves living here, raising their families here,
growing our population,
and attracting and retaining our young people,
we have to go back to neighborhoods and housing
and all of the social issues that I think
are so important here in our city.
You are there in the Midwest,
and the reality is when you look at the numbers,
you're losing people.
They're leaving Michigan, Wisconsin.
They're leaving these states, Illinois, Missouri.
And so a lot of that is driven by economics.
And so what is your plan to attract businesses
to set up shop in Detroit that would supply the jobs,
obviously for the longest, more than 100 years?
It's been about the auto industry there in Detroit. But how do you look to diversify your economy there that will then
attract people attract homeowners? Yeah, well let me first say Detroit's population has recently
seen an increase after decades of decline. We just celebrated maybe about a couple of months ago
After decades of decline, we just celebrated maybe about a couple of months ago another population growth for two consecutive years.
So we are starting to move in the right direction.
We are not any longer losing population.
We're gaining, but it's not at the speed I think that we all want to see.
And so for me to continue to attract different industries to Detroit, we want to have to
make sure that Detroit is a business-friendly city.
What we oftentimes hear is that it's extremely difficult to open up a business or for industries
to move to Detroit because of red tape, because of bureaucracy. If you go to other cities, they
don't have to experience that much difficulty getting into city government and opening up those
industries and businesses in their cities. And so we're going to work on improving the culture of
how business is done in Detroit.
Secondly, in order for these industries to come here,
we gotta have talented workforce.
We got to have people who can feel those positions
with the skills and the knowledges that they need.
And so we're gonna have a heavy focus
on workforce development to ensure that we have a pipeline
that is prepared for the industries
that will come to Detroit.
And then lastly, we pay some of the highest property taxes in the country
in Detroit. And oftentimes we have to continue to offer incentives and abatements
for companies and industries to come to Detroit because the cost of development is
extremely high. And so we're working on achieving structural property tax reform
and then also offering as many incentives as possible, whether it's our land and also other tools
to ensure that we're incentivizing those industries
that come to Detroit.
You're talking about those property taxes,
why are they so high?
Well, they've always been high.
We have tons of millages over the years
that have continued to add to that cost.
And I think for decades,
and really quite some time in Detroit,
we've always experienced
extremely high taxes and it's always been a burden for our residents. And so we've tried year after
year to try to reduce it. The last two years the mayor has launched an initiative changing some
state laws that would allow for reduction in property taxes and we're working on that extremely
hard because it's been a huge barrier. People have a left for Southfield and the suburban communities
because the cost of living is so high.
Even our auto insurance is extremely high
compared to other cities.
And so these are structural issues
that have been plaguing our city for generations
that we have to work on to stop individuals
and businesses from coming to Detroit.
Quality of life obviously is one of those things,
but what goes into that also are schools.
When businesses are looking to relocate,
they're looking at, they're looking at transportation,
they're looking at quality of life,
and looking at entertainment,
and looking also at schools as well.
And so obviously that's not under your purview,
but that also has to be a significant issue
when you're talking about how do you attract people,
how do you attract families
who you want to be there for generations,
not just transient, will they come and go?
Most definitely, and we have a robust plan
working with our school board and our superintendent.
Right now, the number one issue facing our school system
in Detroit is absenteeism.
Our kids are not showing up to school
and oftentimes it's social determinants
that are preventing our young people from showing up,
whether it's transportation, parents or families
have issue with childcare.
And so the city could be a greater partner in that regard.
We also have to ensure that we're exposing our young people
to skilled trades and vocational training
and exposing them to other alternatives
outside a traditional four-year college degree.
And so I plan on being a very active and hands-on mayor
as it relates to education.
While we may not control the school system,
we can open up our rec centers, our libraries,
use partner organizations and sites
to ensure that there's robust afterschool programming for our young people to get the additional
educational support that they need. So we're going to be a great partner.
While the mirror doesn't control, we don't need to control, but we can
achieve a significant increase in the outcome of our young people as it
relates to education. All right, then. Well, that certainly sounds like a
whole lot. I know you got to get back to campaigning.
Early voting is taking place right now, right?
Yes it is.
It's happening right now and Tuesday, August 5th is the election and we are excited for
Detroit to get out and show out.
And so if those, anyone who is listening on your show today, if you know a Detroiter,
call them, let them know to show up.
Let their voice be heard.
But more importantly, if you don't early vote, please get out Tuesday, August the 5th
for this very pivotal, pivotal moment in our history
and this very, very important election.
All right, Mary Shafil, we surely appreciate it.
Thanks a bunch.
Good luck. Thank you.
You as well.
All right, folks, go on to break.
We'll be right back.
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Thank you. The war in Texas trying to steal five congressional seats decimating not only the Democrats numbers
but black and brown representation.
A lot of folks continue to speak out.
First of all, today House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries was in Austin standing with
Democrats. We'll show you some of that.
But some of the people who have been attending
these hearings and putting these Republicans on blast
include Tarrant County Commissioner, Alyssa Simmons,
who's been fighting redistricting even on the county level
where they're trying to wipe out a black member
of the commissioner's court in order to put a Republican in.
Here's what she had to say.
My name is Alisa Simmons.
I'm the Tarrant County Commissioner that represents the precinct.
I represent the precinct that you are currently sitting in, meeting in.
This is my precinct.
Welcome to ground zero of redistricting. Tarrant
County, Texas, home of the Tea Party and Maca Republicans, Maca Republican County
Judge, DA, Sheriff, all of them. I am here to urge the members of the Texas legislature to say no to racism and
the racially discriminatory redraw of congressional maps.
What you've done is planned and calculated a racist attack
on the fundamental voting rights of people of color.
on the fundamental voting rights of people of color.
I should know, MAGA County Judge Tim O'Hare
used a racist law firm and a racist map drawer
to attack, pack, and crack African American
in Hispanic neighborhoods here, just like you are trying to do to our congressional maps.
With the mid-decade redistricting of Tarrant County Commissioners' precincts,
the Republicans came for me and my seat just last month.
On June 3rd, my constituents lost their representation due to intentional racial gerrymandered
MAGA politics. And what happened when my colleagues voted to redistrict, when they
voted to go after my precinct 2 seat, a damn lawsuit. So hopefully you all are
prepared for that. They redrew our lines not because the population shifted,
not because our communities changed, but because they wanted to silence our voices. Like you,
Texas legislative Republicans, my MAGA colleagues wanted more power than they already have.
Tarrant County has been in existence since 1849 and has always been Republican-led.
What more do you want?
They didn't give a damn who they had to disenfranchise.
Please complete your testimony.
Is my time up?
Please complete, yeah, I'll let you complete your sentence.
All right.
That wasn't fair.
That wasn't Democratic.
It was designed to rig the game before the whistle even blew and
Now Texas Republican leadership is behind closed doors haven't seen a map or a redistricting proposal from you guys
Doing the same thing
But we are here today to say no to racism and racially
discriminatorily redrawing of congressional maps. Thank you all.
Members, any questions for this witness?
Representative Mangels recognized the question.
Commissioner, we might, it's okay, just remember to stay at that microphone until we might have some questions for you.
Representative Mangels recognized the question witness.
Thank you. I had a quick question. I know you were saying that because of this it's
going to cause a lawsuit. Is your county right now flush with cash or do you all have an
over-serve plus of cash? I'm asking for an intent.
No sir, we are not flush with cash.
So you're not. Second thing is obviously you wouldn't know but as of right now since this the county is going to spend $30,000 to try to do that. That is not the case.
So you'
re not.
Second thing is obviously you
wouldn'
t know but as of right now
since this will possibly be
going to litigation do you know
how much the county is already
having to spend to try to
affirm what they'
ve already done to the seat
with redistricting? the racist map. We paid them to draw the racist map, $30,000, and now we've
hired them to defend the damn
racist map, and at 250,000.
So that's just the beginning.
So we're already well above with
$300,000?
Yes, in less than a month.
Okay.
And then how is that end up going to be, you know, the the county. I would like to ask you about the tax payers. That is just the beginning. That is just the beginning so
we'
re already well above $300,000?
Yes in less than a month.
How does that end up going to be
paid back? I know the county is
going to do it but where is that?
Their money.
Tax payers who are already
disenfranchised as well as
people who are not
disenfranchised.
Correct. This is going to increase taxes in your county? It probably will. I would like to ask you if you would like to ask a question to the senator. I would like to ask you if you
would like to ask a question to
the senator.
I would like to ask you if you
would like to ask a question to
the senator.
I would like to ask you if you
would like to ask a question to
the senator.
I would like to ask you if you
would like to ask a question to
the senator.
I would like to ask you if you
would like to ask a question to
the senator.
I would like to ask you if you
would like to ask a question to
the senator.
I would like to ask you if you
would like to ask a question to
the senator. I'd like you
just to inform the committee how your Republican colleagues on the Commissioner's Court went about
achieving it. Just correct me if I'm wrong but they took heavily minority neighborhoods from
precinct 2 which you were elected to represent and packed them into precinct one which is an existing
majority minority commissioners precinct.
Do I have that basically correct?
That's correct.
So precinct two as politicians you know is a competitive district.
Precinct one is decidedly democratic. Precincts three and four are decidedly Republican.
So hey, if the Republicans run a good race, they maybe could have beat me, but they didn't. It's a competitive district. And so, yes, my precinct, the CVAP voting age population
was 48.9% black and brown.
And with redistricting, it's now 38% black and brown.
So they've decimated greasing too.
OK.
And basically, when they do these racial gerrymanders,
like we're about to see in this congressional map,
there's basically two ways to do it, right?
You can crack minority community and thereby dilute votes
across several districts and or pack minority voters into as little geography
as possible.
But the net effect is the same, reducing the overall representation that minority voters
have in their ability to elect the candidates of their choice.
That's correct.
So they took, for example, the Tarrant County portion of Grand Prairie, which was increasing
to and votes decidedly
Democratic.
That's your district.
Yes.
And took it right around Arlington and placed it in Precinct 1.
So they cracked Precinct 2 very well and put them into precinct one.
Thank you for walking us through that.
Thank you, Commissioner.
Thank you, sir.
Now, folks, yesterday at another hearing,
Reverend Dr. Frederick Douglas Haynes,
a senior pastor at Friendship West Baptist Church,
he also spoke to the room.
Check this out. Give us your testimony, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair. My name is Frederick Douglas
Haynes and that name has been used earlier. I want to commend you because
there are two governing principles that have informed how you have presided
today. Number one, you said that we are going to follow the rules. Number two, you
also mentioned that every American deserves to follow the rules. Number two, you also mentioned
that every American deserves to be heard. It is my prayer that that would govern how we respond to
the wannabe kings from Washington, D.C. dictating that we redistrict at this inopportune time
that we redistrict at this inopportune time, already districts that have been well gerrymandered.
And so I'm asking, number one,
that we follow the rules of justice.
Justice, according to Michael Eric Dyson,
is what love sounds like when it speaks in public.
Justice means that all of us, your number two principle,
deserve to have our voices heard.
With this particular dictate coming down from Washington,
DC, our voices will not be heard.
I'm asking, Mr. Chair, that indeed this committee reject
what's coming from Washington, DC,
and ensure that our voices are heard, and not only that our voices are heard and not only that our voices
are heard but that we follow the rules of justice. I basically say with what has
been said before most if not all on this committee have some kind of religious
affiliation. According to my understanding of Christianity and most religions, there is a belief in justice.
If there is a belief in justice, it especially is concerned with ensuring that the voiceless
have a voice.
Please do not rob the voiceless of a voice with a racist redistricting that follows the dictates of someone who wants to be the king
and not the president of the United States of America.
In a few months, many of us are going to celebrate what happened 70 years ago when Rosa Parks
decided that she would stand for justice by not giving up her seat.
I've always wondered about all the other folk on the bus that December 1st day. What did they do?
Rosa Parks, we agree, was on the right side of history because she took a stand for what was
right and just. The others were on the wrong side of history
because they did not take a stand at all or they went along with what was wrong.
I'm asking you this day, please stand with Rosa Parks in that spirit, meaning
that history will record that you were on the right side of history
because you stood for justice. You were on the right side of history because you
followed the rules of justice. You were on the right side of history because you
made sure that everybody in Texas has a voice and not just voices of those who
look like the occupant of the White House.
I am begging you, please stand on the right side of history as opposed to the wrong side
of history which will hurt all of us and is against everything that is moral and everything
that is just.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you for your time. So folks, I will sit this video Samuel Garcia, fellow Texas A&M Aggie, and I just love what he had to say.
So we'll play this last one before we go to Commissioner Simmons. So y'all check this here out.
Microphone, we'll get to you in just a moment.
All right, Chair calls Samuel Garcia. Shall you register to testify on behalf of yourself on the revised Congressional Redistricting Plan? Is that correct?
Yes, sir, it is.
Please give us your testimony.
I drove here three hours to get here. I came from Abilene, Texas. And I'm going to, if
I'm willing to drive three hours to come here and talk, I'm going to ask you to get off your phone and listen to what I have to say.
Whenever I found out when you address somebody from the state legislature, you're supposed
to call them the honorable this or the honorable that.
Well, the word honorable means that you bring honor, and when you're elected, you're given
that title. You're given that title.
You should earn that title.
Being honorable means that you do the right thing.
Being honorable means that you will look at yourself in the mirror every day and say,
why am I doing this?
You got a call from Donald Trump.
He told you to go find five seats. No, he got asked how many
seats. He said five. He was asked on the news. You say we don't have any maps. Well
the hell in the hell does Donald Trump know he's going to get five seats? I bet
you anything there's maps that are there. Those maps are there and they're sitting on his desk and he's
waiting for you to do it. This is ridiculous. A man a few days ago was
arrested because he spoke too long at this at the lecture. He spoke too long
and y'all said oh he had to be arrested because he broke the rules. How many of
you are gonna get arrested for breaking the rules of mistreating
the citizens of this country? You're breaking the rules. We are the citizens of this country.
We're the ones. It's supposed to be bottom up, not top down. I'm going to say this one thing to you. You know it's wrong.
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In your heart, you know it's wrong.
And here's what I'm gonna ask you.
When your kids or your grandkids ask you one day, as a state representative, did you do
— always do the right thing?
You've got two answers that you can choose from.
You're either going to have to admit to them that, no, sometimes I did things just for
power.
Sometimes I did that.
Or you're going to have to lie to your kids and lie to your
grandkids and tell them you did it because you believed it because you know
this is wrong. This is wrong. I grew up...
Please complete your testimony.
I'm an Aggie and I bleed Aggie Maroon. In Aggies we say, Aggies we don't lie, steal or chill, cheat or steal.
And we don't tolerate those who do.
But the other thing is, soy Mexicano.
And my mother would look at you today, my mother would look at you today and say,
see me Wednesday.
Members, any questions for this witness?
Tournequist now, Terran County Commissioner Lisa Simmons.
Glad to have you here.
I mean, lots of passion here.
And what Garcia there, he summed it up.
This is about power.
This is about raw, naked power.
It's pure and simple.
And that's what, as you laid out, these racist Republicans are doing in Texas, in Tarrant
County, in Galveston County, in Austin, Texas.
And at Fort Bend County, Texas now.
Same process. These Republicans want to destroy the voting strength
of black voters and other minority voters.
They want to illegally throw the racial and political makeup
of this county and this commissioner's court out of balance.
Same thing they're doing with the congressional maps.
It is obvious racism.
What I want people to stop doing is calling it a power grab.
These guys have the power.
This is racism, pure and simple.
They've got the power. They want absolute dominion.
They want dominion. So this is racist. And we need to continue to say that, call it what
it is, call it thing to thing.
Well, and the thing that I keep, you know, when I wrote my book, White Fear, How the
Brownie of America is Making White Folks Lose Their Minds, I laid all this thing that I keep, you know, when I wrote my book, White Fear, How the Brownie of America's Making White Folks
Lose Their Minds, I laid all this out.
I mean, I said, guys, this is what they are doing.
This is what they're preparing to do.
It's as simple as that.
And so many people, I looked at so many people
who set the election out last year, oh, oh, you know,
I don't like this about Kamala or this,
Trump is not that bad.
And now they're sitting here going like oh my god
They're doing it, but they said they were going to do it. I
Knew it when I took office two years what seven months ago
the consultants called
My I won November 8th November 9th, they called and said,
can you jump on it on a Zoom?
They are going to redistrict this seat
because the sister before me, she served one term,
we serve four year terms.
She served one term.
She was black.
She won by 4,000 votes.
I won by 4,000 votes. I won by 4,000 votes.
Where I sit is, like I said at the testimony,
is a competitive district.
And so they, the Republicans knew it was going to turn,
it was going to be more,
it would become more easy for Democrats to win.
And so they, they're like, we become more easily easy for Democrats to win.
And so they, hey, they're like, we're about to put a stop to this.
And they want the county judge will tell you, if he could, he'd want four Republicans on
the commissioner's court. What's important about that is it's taking away your representatives.
Right.
is it's taking away your representatives. Right.
I mean, you're removing me from, this would remove me from the court.
It will be nearly impossible with the new map that passed, it passed here.
We have been redistricted, reapportioned.
It will be nearly impossible for me to win.
And that is a result of people not voting.
Y'all have got, we've got to get these folks to the polls, period, point blank.
Yeah, I keep saying they are taking advantage. 61% of Texas is minority.
Yet 61% of the people who vote are white.
And let me tell you this.
For years I've been,
I get the Tarrant County Republican monthly newsletter.
Those people are organized.
It's not rocket science. They are canvassing now for 20, the Republicans in Tarrant County are block walking, knocking on doors now.
What we do as Democrats, election's over, we need to take a break. We need to take a break. We need to take a rest. And so we can go to those hearings, give great remarks and speeches and all that.
Same thing that happened with this commissioner's court.
I had a ton of people show up at commissioner's court.
Two overflow rooms.
It doesn't matter.
They've got the votes on commissioner's court.
They've got three votes. The Texas court. They've got three votes.
The Texas house has the votes to redistrict.
So what are we going to do?
Keep giving speeches.
We've got to do better.
Subscribe to the Tarrant County Republican newsletter
and do what they do.
It is, it's not rocket science.
We, we just gotta be consistent, block walking,
communicating, educating, and have short succinct messages
and be tough, talk shit,
and get out here.
We should be campaigning right now, right now.
Yeah, I mean, I've been making that point.
I can't tell you how many times I say,
yo, you can't wait.
I spoke today on the panel of the US Black Chamber, Inc.
And I laid out to the people, I said,
you have to be starting far earlier, a year earlier.
You gotta be teaching people.
There has to be town halls.
I said, we gotta go back where we had freedom schools
in the civil rights movement. You gotta have freedom schools teaching people about there has to be town halls. I said, we gotta go back to where we had freedom schools in the civil rights movement, you gotta have freedom schools
teaching people about public policy.
I saw this one, I was on social media,
this one guy, this was about three days ago,
he was like, you know,
Democratic National Committee, where are y'all?
Y'all should be Texas fighting.
I'm like, no fool.
I'm like, you should be fighting,
but you should be mobilizing and organizing
because the problem with Texas is unorganized.
And Republicans have been able to win all across the state statewide offices and here's the deal
your county is the last large major county in Texas that Republicans control. That's why they're
scared to death. They lost Harris County. That's why Abbott hates Governor Abbott hates Harris County. That's why Abbott hates, Governor Abbott hates Harris County.
They lost Dallas County.
They lost Travis County.
The governor is such an ass.
They, this new map, they literally put the governor's mansion
in a red district so as not in
a Democrat congressional district.
They're silly when they draw these maps, silly.
Listen, I'm telling you how silly they are.
So precinct two, my precinct,
is home to Globe Life Stadium,
home of the Texas Rangers,
AT&T Stadium, home to the Dallas Cowboys,
the Texas Live Entertainment Complex.
They, the lines theyboys, the Texas Live Entertainment Complex,
the lines they drew, Roland, they gave the stadiums to a Republican precinct
or commissioner, but not the goddamn parking lots.
So the parking lots are still mine.
Make it make sense.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
They drew the maps.
So the parking lots of the stadium are in your district,
but the stadium itself is not.
You heard me, yes.
And so I guess that's, you know, I've driven, you know,
I might go meet people for lunch at Texas Live
and they have jacked up parking lot.
And I told my road and bridge director,
I said, hey, let's use some discretionary funds.
And I know the Rangers don't need county dollars,
but I want that parking lot fixed.
So we can use some discretionary funds
and help them repair that parking lot.
And so I guess they want me to use my discretionary funds
to repair parking lot.
Make it make sense the way they drew these lines.
And you're from this area,
a lot of your listeners aren't,
so this won't mean much to them.
But Grand Prairie, Texas, the Tarrant County portion
is precinct to, and it votes decidedly democratic.
They have moved Grand Prairie, Texas,
round past Arlington and put it into precinct one.
So precinct one, Democratic always gonna be.
Did commissioner freeze there?
I think she froze.
Let's see if we can get her back there.
We lost a signal right there.
You know, the thing that we're seeing folks,
I mean, we literally are seeing
some absolutely shameful behavior that's coming in Texas.
But again, we warned people about this.
And when the commissioner talks about
how you have to mobilize and organize, how you
have to get folk focused.
Again, that's how you defeat this.
Y'all, this ain't rocket science.
It's really not.
And so you can be mad and pissed off.
The question is, what are you going to do about it?
I'm going to go to break.
We come back.
I'm going to talk, bring my panel up.
Hopefully we can get the commissioner back.
But also, some democratic governors are saying,
okay, FAFO, let's go.
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We're doing the interview, motherfucker.
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I'm gonna bring in my panel as well,
joining us right here on the show talking about the craziness that's happening in Texas.
And again, we're seeing these things unfolding
all across the country because Republicans want to do this
everywhere because they are afraid they're going to be
losing, losing the House next year.
All right, joining us with our hostage video,
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Dr. Greg Hart, Department of Afro-American Studies,
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former Chair, DNC Finance Committee, DC as well.
Let's get right to it.
Now, if you wanna understand how these folks think,
how these folks operate, what's on their minds,
all you have to do is just look at,
in terms of how they go about their business.
The other day we showed y'all some of that
in terms of these Republicans,
in terms of, you know, just how they move.
So here's a perfect example.
So Jimmy Petronas out of Florida put out this statement here.
Give me one second, I'm gonna try to pull it up.
He goes, I support a renewed redistricting effort
for Florida.
If Texas can do it, the free state of Florida
can do it 10 times better.
Also, y'all, fair districts is unconstitutional
because it violates freedom of speech and elections
or a state's rights issue.
The more power to the states, the better.
Okay, here's the problem with that, y'all.
The folks in Florida literally put that right there,
the Fair Districts in the state constitution.
So it's a little hard to run around that.
Now the governor of California,
so this is his response to this headline
in the Texas Tribune,
Newson will move to redraw California maps
if Texas redistricts team up national fight.
He goes FAFO.
And he's absolutely right.
You've got Kathy Hokel, give me one second.
I saw this earlier.
I was at the U.S. Black Chamber Inc.
and I was checking this out.
Kathy Hokel, she is the governor of New York.
And she is now weighing in on this very issue,
making it clear that, yo, she will move
to take some action when it comes to gerrymandering as well.
And the thing here, Mike, I'm gonna start with you,
is real simple.
Okay, Republicans, y'all wanna start this fight?
Go ahead.
But the most populous states in the country are blue.
So let's do the map.
California.
I saw one analysis where they said
they could literally
flip the map in California to 52 to zero
based upon Districts Kamala Harris 1.
So you got California, you got Ohio, you got Maryland,
you got Illinois, you got Virginia.
Hey, my whole deal is you tell Dems go for broke, change the whole damn thing.
And when they start crying, you say, okay, let's do a national gerrymander ban. Oh, y'all
Republicans, y'all voted against that in Congress, Michael.
Absolutely. And thanks for having me, Roland. I certainly hope that those three governors
that you mentioned start putting the pieces together, start talking to the particular
state representatives that they can count on, and start putting these—drawing their
own maps. Be prepared. If Texas pulls the trigger and does it and executes, you're
ready to do the same. Now, the only question is,
if Texas does not pull the trigger,
should the states you just mentioned do it anyway?
Oh, first of all, Michael, that ain't even a question.
Texas is gonna do it.
I mean, that ain't even, that ain't even,
you can't say the horse left the barn,
the ship is at the port.
Bottom line is they are prioritizing redrawing districts
over focusing on flooding that killed almost 200 people.
That right there tells you exactly what the focus
of Governor Greg Abbott is.
So if that's the issue you're referring to, then absolutely those particular blue governors
and the blue state representative bodies should absolutely get ready, be prepared.
So if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
Yeah, absolutely.
Commissioner Simmons, you see right here, this is Governor Kathy Hochul of New York State.
I won't sit by while Donald Trump and Texas Republicans
try to steal our nation's future.
And I think what she should say is,
okay, y'all flip five, I'ma flip five.
And Newsom should say, I'ma flip 10.
And again, Maryland, Illinois, Virginia,
if I'm Democrats, I say, yo, let's pick up 2025 seats.
Exactly, what we being so nice for?
What is what?
You're exactly right.
Abbott, this is happening in the-
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Texas House, period point blank. They got the votes. They jacked around and had some
check the box, play play, public hearings, didn't have a map to show the people
didn't have a map to show the people or a redistricting proposal.
This is a foregone conclusion.
And we don't have the votes in the Texas legislature
to do anything about it.
So it is incumbent upon those other governors
to take action, no need to wait.
There's no need to wait.
to take action, no need to wait. There's no need to wait.
The thing here, Greg, is you are facing evil.
You're facing an individual and a party
that is corrupt to their core.
Republicans today in Congress voted down an amendment
that would have kept
the United States from giving Trump this refurbished billion dollar, this jet from
from cutters. Okay so they are sanctioning corruption. So let's just be
real clear. I don't want to hear another one of these bullshit speeches from
Senator Cory Booker
or any House member, my dear friend, I know your heart.
I know you're a person of decency.
I don't want to hear the honorable so-and-so.
These people are not honorable.
They're not decent.
They're not fair.
They're not moral.
And when you're facing someone like that, you treat them accordingly.
You do unless you don't.
And, uh, our dear brother,
Cory Booker is speaking a language they don't understand.
And anyone who would say, well, you have to, when they go low, we go high.
And anyone who would say, well, you have to, when they go low, we go high. With all due respect to our former first lady, Michelle Obama,
and anyone else who thinks that way.
You're not a student of American history.
I simply have to get back into trenches because I don't want to see another
black table commercial for one that we already did.
Although David Pepper is a very good person in this question to read this.
But one of the first people we're gonna schedule to talk to is the author of
this brand new biography of Charles Sumner, a remarkable senator.
So Senator Booker, I would really strongly advise you, brother,
to read the biography of Charles Sumner.
Read what he wrote and read the new book.
The book ends with Charles Sumner on his deathbed, imploring the United States Senate to pass
what became the Civil Rights Act of 1875, which was ultimately overturned by the Supreme
Court and sabotaged by the House of Representatives.
But I bring it up for this reason.
Charles Sumner, who, if anybody, if people know him at all, they probably know from when Preston
Brooks of South Carolina beat him within an inch of his life on the floor of the United States
Senate. Charles Sumner had no compromise. He is the major architect of Reconstruction legislation.
We're talking about not only the Civil Rights Act of 1866, but the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments. Charles Sumner is a very
important figure. Why do I bring up Charles Sumner at this juncture? I am not
alarmed. I'm excited because this is the thing about these hillbillies and
white supremacy. What you see is that corruption and overreach in the history
of the United States walk hand in hand.
The 1850s, the 1860s, leading up to the Civil War, you see some of the most corrupt, some
of the nastiest pieces of work in terms of open-wise premises in the history of this
country at work.
And if you're going to beat them, you have to simply decide you're going to break their
political backs.
Charles Sumner understood that.
The Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, where they could just put their hands on you and say,
you have no rights, and next thing you know, you're working on a damn plantation in Louisiana
like Solomon Norfolk, which is, of course, the evening that we met the first time, 12
years of slave.
Well, guess what?
What the hell do you think ISIS is?
I'm sorry, they call it ICE, but it's ISIS.
They put their hands on you
and the hillbilly in charge of it says,
we can stop people based on how they look.
It is an echo of that time.
So at this moment, what we are seeing is
the same type of escalation in a different age
of what proceeded to civil war.
When South Carolina decided they would rather leave
than obey the Constitution, well guess what?
Governor Abbott, my friend, I applaud you my friend,
because what you gonna understand, you hillbilly,
is that when you break it this time,
nobody's gonna put on a uniform and save it.
When Gavin Newsom said, as he has said today, that perhaps we'll have a special election
on November the 4th and put to the ballot the question of redistricting.
And Kathy Hochul is no flaming liberal.
She's a centrist Democrat.
She's going to follow suit.
J.B. Pritzker in Illinois follows suit.
Guess what?
The Cold Civil War is now moving to the hot phase.
And finally, this ill-billed in Florida that you quoted talking about the First Amendment taking his cues from John
Roberts, because that's absolutely John Roberts is gospel and talking about
states rights. Well, guess what? That works both ways. If you're not going to
give disaster relief to Republican districts in Maryland to because West
more is the governor. Well, guess what? You're gonna stop paying taxes.
And once them hillbillies start screaming bloody murder
in Mississippi and Louisiana and Texas and South Carolina,
well, guess what?
Those of us who are caught up in it,
maybe we'll feel enough pain to get involved
in the political process and vote enough people
into the federal legislature
so that the Freedom to Vote Act will pass.
And maybe we won't, but I'll tell you right now,
I'm excited because it's gonna always have to come down to this.
You don't break white supremacy with kind words,
you break its back with power.
No, this is not a moment for folk to be scared.
This is a moment literally where it requires fighters.
I remember seeing Reverend Willie Wilson
was preaching in Dallas.
And he talked about, there was a church break-in
and some thugs stole the equipment in the church.
They stole the musical instruments
and all kind of stuff like that.
And so they went to the pulpit,
he went to the pulpit that Sunday and he said,
he said, I need y'all to put the word out
on the street in D.C.
We looking for our stuff.
He said, but I don't need y'all simple Christians.
He said, I need some of my former thug Christians
to roll with me to go get our equipment.
Then they found out where the equipment was
and rolled up on the place and got the equipment
and got some other stuff from there as well.
See, this ain't a moment for the weak, the meek, the quiet, the nice.
No, no, no, no. This is where you need some Democratic gangsters who said, I'm going to
take y'all out one by one. I'm going to make y'all feel, and every time JD Vance tweets,
oh my God, this is unfair, Did they say, take another seat?
Then when they start complaining again, take another seat.
And that's what you do.
That's how you make them pay.
Yeah, definitely.
I wasn't sure where you were going with that at first.
I wasn't sure.
Well, that's why I know where I'm going.
If you just listen, you'll know where I'm going.
The man you tell, you saying to listen,
I haven't gotten six words out before you didn't.
Because I just talked about,
what are you talking about?
You ain't know where I was going.
That's why I explained it where I was going.
You need some gangsters.
When you in a fight,
you don't bring folk who believe in diplomacy.
You bring folk who ready to swing.
Now you understand what I'm saying?
We finished my thought, thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
As a person who's literally just finished a book chapter today
arguing for the coexistence of diplomacy and deterrence,
I do believe that we definitely need to be stronger
and strategically stronger.
If we have the option to do a thing, we should do that thing.
If California, if New York, if Chicago can actually, you know, implement the same sort
of strategy that they did in Texas, I say we go for it. I think this hemming and hawing,
and which I understand from the perspective of you're trying to figure out if I make this move,
is the person in office, you know, two, three years down the line, will they do it and use it
against?
It's all these things that go into this type of thinking.
That's what we don't have the luxury of.
We don't have the luxury of the hemming and the hawing.
We don't have the luxury of kind of thinking through when we are already here.
We're not having this conversation proactively.
We are here and the people need to rally around something.
They need to believe in someone and they need to be inspired.
And right now they are still searching for it.
So I say if this is an option,
we should definitely pull the trigger on that and exercise that option.
And Commissioner Simmons, who you got, I mean,
they are literally using taxpayer money,
as you say, to pay this racist organization.
Folks should be raising a holy hell.
And every time that little mascot county judge of yours
starts whining and complaining,
they should sit here and say,
all right, we gonna boycott your house.
Hey, I wouldn't be opposed to it,
but I'm not gonna on this.
You ain't got to say it.
I said it.
If y'all in Tann County,
hey, laws are allowed, protest at his house.
That's right, start at 6 a.m.
Wake his ass up. See this is,
these people, they are trying to lock in power for the next 50 to 100 years. They do not want to see
black advancement, brown advancement. They are absolutely, they are white nationalists.
Because let me tell you what Alisa Simmons
is gonna pull up and stop doing.
Is going to these rallies, public hearings,
all this stuff about redistricting.
I had a seven-hour commissioner's court meeting and so grateful
that all of the white allies, the African-American groups, the D9, the Hispanic organizations,
so glad that we had 500, 600 people show up. And I had a redistricting public hearing in my precinct that lasted five hours.
I went to the redistricting deal, the congressional, the state thing, Monday night.
That was five or six hours long. If we don't stop talking, see, Elisa Simmons is not going to Austin.
If one more person asked me to go to another rally
in Austin, I get it,
people want elected officials to speak
and do the wrong thing.
Yep.
What are we talking about?
If all those busloads of people go into Austin
for something coming, I'm not going.
If they were in mobilized,
hitting these doors, talking to people,
they go into Austin to do what?
Go beg, talk, try, you are not convincing
these racist clowns to change not one vote.
Not one vote will change.
But all of this, my sorority group,
I'm just looking at all these,
who's going to Austin, this bus got this.
I'm like, Lord, what are we doing?
At the beginning of the day,
and at the end of the day,
the Tarrant County map,
the state of Texas congressional maps are an expression
of intentional racial discrimination
designed to silence our voices,
designed to eliminate our representatives.
That wheel, I was elected by the,
I was elected by the people.
And I told you it was a competitive district,
not just by Democrats, not just by black.
You can't win in my precinct
by black and brown people voting for you or just Democrats.
And so these maps have taken away,
essentially, I'm faithful, I believe in God,
but has diluted the voting strength of minorities
to elect their candidate of choice.
So precinct one now in Tarrant County becomes almost,
88, 80 something percent, almost 90 percent Democrat,
that's great.
We will have one representative on the commissioner's board.
Yep.
Yep.
So, you're absolutely right.
If you're going to expand time, energy, and money, then you spend it where it is wise,
where you have a greater return on investment
and that's hitting door to door, precincts, canvassing.
That's what you have to do
because you have to beat these people.
And here's the whole deal, okay?
A lot of these house seats,
the Republicans control in Texas,
they're a number that they can be beaten in.
Yes.
If folk actually vote.
That's just what it boils down to.
Tarrant County is 50-50.
I mean, it's right there.
And we in Tarrant County,
we have according to the Tarrant County Democratic Party,
we have more registered Democrats in Tarrant County.
We gotta get, pull them out of their homes into the polls. more registered Democrats in Tarrant County.
We gotta get, pull them out of their homes into the polls. Yep, there you go.
Commissioner Simmons, we appreciate it.
Keep up the good fight.
Thank you, sir.
Folks, gotta go to break, we'll come back.
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But as David Pepper, author, scholar and former politician himself says, there's another factor
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His book is Laboratories of Autocracy, a Wake Up Call from Behind the Lines.
So these state houses get hijacked by the far right.
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All right, y'all.
Trump's an idiot.
Okay, next story.
All right, just messing with you.
Folks, we know that's be true.
The twice impeached, criminally convicted,
felon-in-chief Donald-in-the-con Trump
escalating trade tensions once again.
The fresh wave of terror set to hit dozens of countries
at 12 a.m. on Friday.
But now he's saying, okay, not Mexico, I'm not gonna do it.
Okay, another country gonna do it.
That love is here.
Hey, South Korea, they're gonna spend
almost 500 billion with us.
So South Korea's gonna spend a quarter of their GDP?
Dude, stop lying.
He threw out Japan. Oh, they're gonna give us 500 billion
and we're gonna make lots of money.
Japan's like, nah, no we're not, no we're not.
I mean, we literally have an idiot who is engaged here.
He thinks that he should get a Nobel Peace Prize.
He is so jealous of Obama.
And so now they're like, oh, Donald Trump,
he's looking at all the wars that he stopped.
That's also sheer stupidity.
Now we have the idiot announcing,
oh, we're gonna build a $200 million ballroom
at the White House because that's what we need.
And so he's personally overseeing the construction
of this new ballroom, okay y'all, like seriously.
Now we have existing facilities in the White House
but he's like, no, no, no, we need a new ballroom
and so you know what's gonna happen,
it's gonna be gold shit everywhere. I mean you know it's gonna happen. It's gonna be gold shit everywhere.
I mean you know it's gonna be one of the ugliest
damn rooms you've ever seen.
And so what he's doing is he's literally trying
to turn the White House into that piece of crap place
where he is, where Mar-a-Lago.
So this is a rendering that they posted
that we should do.
So we got that,
then he's gonna get the billion dollar jet.
See, I love this here.
The federal government is gonna pay
more than a billion dollars
to upgrade the jet from Qatari government,
and then Republicans are gonna vote
to go ahead and just give it to him
when he leaves office.
Now he's already enriched himself
by upwards of $800 million as well.
And so what we really have here, Nola,
is an undeniable grift.
They have decided, you know what?
We didn't really rape and pillage America
not the first time.
Let's really do it now.
They're like the Vikings of old.
Let's just rape and pillage everything.
And that signals to me that he has no intention
on coming out, honey, anytime soon,
that that presidency is gonna turn into,
what is it called, primogenita.
It's gonna turn into a monarchy.
You are just spending and spending
on the backs of Americans,
on the backs of 300,000 plus black women
who are out there looking for full-time employment,
myself included.
You are doing it on the backs of other federal workers
who you just completely displaced.
You were doing it on the backs of folks who lost their Medicaid, on the backs of folks
who are going to have to pay more as a result of these tariffs.
So you are doing all this on the backs of Americans, as if you are the grossest—and
I mean the grossest example, mythological creature of a king that, you know, we could ever encounter in our nightmares.
You know, this is really—none of this is typical, none of this is usual.
We're used to that.
And I think my question is—it's a legal question, because I do believe he's coming
out one way or the other.
He is coming out.
I do not think it's going to be some, you know, Trump version of a monarchy.
But my question is legal.
All this stuff that they are doing in broad daylight, is somebody keeping score?
I mean, I know last time Rachel Maddow had that wall of all his crimes, but I'm dead
serious.
With solicitors' generals' offices being pretty much dismantled, civil rights across
all the agencies being dismantled, civil rights across all the agencies
being dismantled, who is keeping score of all these crimes?
Well, when you have got media kissing your ass
and sucking up to you, that's kind of hard.
Michael, I love this here, I do.
And let me just be real clear, y'all.
I have no problem putting this on the table.
We often say, no, I don't want to see people harmed.
I don't want to see people lose their homes.
I don't want to see people lose their way of life.
I don't want to see any of those things.
I do.
If you voted for Trump, you're not
complaining about ICE deporting people.
I don't mind if you go bankrupt.
I don't, because you supported this.
See, I remember reading in history,
and I believe this was a huge mistake by Lincoln in the North,
allowing the racist plantation owners
to reassert an oath to the United States
to get their property back.
No, you don't get it back.
So take this fool in Alabama, okay?
This fool may go bankrupt because of the workers,
but he says, I still stand with Trump.
I hope he loses everything.
Watch this huge job for the community.
Well, the community is going to miss out if we can't get it finished.
Superintendent Robbie Robertson, who chose to conceal his face, told Reuters that it
was a recent ICE raid on a job site in Florida, more than 200 miles away.
That spooked his staff.
I know that we have lost a lot of our workers because of their hearing about these raids.
We have got some of them back, but we're still—we're now about half capacity, which basically hurts
our work production.
Immigration raids on building sites, part of an expanding crackdown by President Donald
Trump on work sites across the country, are causing major disruptions to the construction
industry, according to Reuters interviews.
Robertson said his company faces a $4,000 penalty for every day it runs past its November
1st deadline, already a potential cost of $84,000. And those raids happen a good bit away from here.
There's a lot of closer jobs than this one.
So I know they're all being affected as well.
About 1.4 million of the roughly 11 million people in the U.S.
illegally work in construction, more than any other industry.
That's according to the Migration Policy Institute,
a nonpartisan think tank.
And construction industry leaders say
those workers are hard to replace
with native-born Americans
because most don't have the skills.
They're willing to do it.
The Hispanic descent, they basically are stepping up
and they'll do some of the hard work.
But I am a Trump supporter, like I said,
and I do think there is a way to go about doing this,
but I just don't think the raids is the answer.
Oh, really?
Michael, I hope Robbie goes bankrupt.
And Robbie, who clearly is not showing his face or his identity—well, I guess we know
his name, Robbie—white supremacy is more important to him and others like him, or that
think like him, is more important than their own self-preservation.
And that's hard to compete with when Democrats are talking about, when we are talking about
messaging of policy, democracy.
None of that matters if white supremacy is your top priority.
And so as people of color and black people and brown folks continue to
rise both economically, politically, political power, that's a problem. And so
if my farm or company or business or I lose my home, but that's okay because we
have a president that supports white supremacy. That's what I care about the most for a lot of people.
Not all, not all white folks, obviously, but many.
And then of course you have the blackface MAGA
who I call the help.
Folks like so-called pastor who we've never heard of,
Folks like so-called pastor, who we've never heard of, so-called bestselling author of a book we've never heard of.
But because MAGA promotes him,
not all of a sudden, Vince Ellis gets some airtime.
So listen to this fool speaking at the racist turning point USA conference.
And we're going to continue to do these great things
and for these people, for these people
that wanna complain, that wanna set back,
who want to cry, who wanna talk about how hard it is.
I'll tell you what we'll do for you.
You wanna talk about DEI, diversity, equity and inclusion?
Yeah, you do need DEI because you're inferior.
Yeah, you need it.
I don't need it.
You walk into my world with a DEI stamp on your chest,
and I'm going to slit your throat.
I want to see you come telling me you didn't earn it.
I want to see you come into my world talking about I need
respite and I need a handout.
Yeah, I'm gonna be smiling at you, boy.
Take it away, Greg.
I love it.
My man, he says his name William Hannibal Thomas,
is that who that is?
Wasn't we, remarkable Uncle Tom
from the late 19th or early 20th, I love it.
Wow. See, when you see, what is Lauren Victoria Burke Remarkable Uncle Tom from the late 19th or 20th, I love it. I love it.
See, when you see what is Lauren Victoria Burke
called these Negroes, a consensual,
when you see a consensual man servant like that,
he's got that Byron Donalds energy.
He claims he wants to smoke till the smoke starts.
That'll be the first Negro to run up behind his master
and say, ah, ah, ah, yeah. But I love it.
I love that talk.
And Dr. Haynes, it's plenty for being kept.
The Supreme Court justices have to go to different circuits.
They all get assigned circuits.
I think Katanji Oniyuka Brown Jackson has the first circuit, if memory serves me correctly.
Brett Kavanaugh has the eighth circuit.
He spent a little over an hour yesterday or today trying to
defend the rocket docket, the shadow docket, and this chicanery they're engaging the Supreme
Court.
And he said in the course of his remarks that he reads all the blogs and listens to social
media and all that.
He has to stay aware of it.
He's aware of all the criticism.
Bear Kavanaugh knows what's coming.
And so, you know, even as the courts now, and the federal court of appeals is hearing
an appeal now on these ridiculous tariffs, realizing that the word tariff doesn't even
appear in the legislation that King Trump or would-be King Trump is using, what's going
to end up—there are two things going on.
Roland, you put it perfectly, brother.
First of all, all these deals, the world is laughing.
You just—by the way, Donald Trump, trying to defend your friend, the Trump of the tropics
in Brazil, you probably just got Lula da Silva reelected in Brazil.
Congratulations, you clown.
The EU wrote some stuff on paper that ain't worth the paper it's printed on,
because as Paul Krugman explained in The New Republic, the EU is not the government.
So when they told you they're going to invest, what, 650 billion? Fool, that ain't the
government of the EU. They ain't going to give you shit. But you, I got a deal. They're going
to invest all this money. They played you. Paul Krugman walked you through the whole thing.
And finally, this is the thing that is hilarious about it.
If you got a 15% tariff on cars coming from Europe, and
there are a lot of cars that come from Europe and the United States.
And you got like a 25% tariff on the Canadian automobiles.
The stuff in the Canadian automobiles was made in Michigan and
Minnesota, crossed the border, come back in, guess who that's going to hurt?
It's going to kill your voters in all those states and it's going to be cheaper to buy
a European car than the one that your people put the car seats in and the seat belts and
the radios and send it over the border to come back.
Meanwhile, the Mexicans are looking to make deals with the Canadians who are looking to
make deals with the Canadians, who are looking to make deals with the Europeans.
The Brazilians are looking to even up their trade with the Chinese.
And they are building an economic system that is literally going to punch and collapse in
the chest of the United States of America.
I say march on, my friend, and take your man servant with you, because every stitch of
clothes that fool got on his back was made somewhere outside the United States.
Let's see him give that same speech butt ass naked
in about a year.
Meanwhile, inflation is still up.
This despite Trump's campaign promise to bring prices down.
Well, the six months into the second term,
the relief hasn't shown up yet.
This idiot who seems utterly clueless about everyday life,
he just insists prices are way down for everything.
You know if you think inflation I've already taken care of prices are way
down for everything groceries everything.
In fact, that was a conversation on Fox News and the help Harris Fonkner, who claims to be a news anchor, who's really nothing more than a MAGA-loving Trump anchor, got bodied
on her own show using a Fox News poll.
Watch this.
Who do you think this really does come down to
having to impress the American people right now?
Is your party, Mike, you guys are not all moving
in concert with one another.
No, I mean, we lost the last election,
so we're having a lot of tough conversations
about how we build a new Democratic party.
That'll keep happening until we elevate a new candidate.
What I'll tell you, though, is I think both political parties are completely out of touch
with the day-to-day lives of most Americans.
There's a lot of polling out in the last couple of weeks talking about how frustrated people
are with inflation and pricing and housing and things like that.
Inflation's at 2%.
The GDP just popped.
Well, inflation's at 2.9%, actually, Harris.
It's 2.9%.
The GDP just popped to 3%.
I mean, we haven't seen that in a very long time.
If I could point you to Fox's own polling, Trump is negative 30% on pricing and the inflation
is as unpopular as Joe Biden ever was.
So the American people are pretty frustrated with where their lives are right now.
There's a Navigator poll out just this morning or yesterday that has a lot of Americans
saying they're worse off than they were six months ago.
I love that when you get back check.
Okay.
All right.
We got it.
We got to we got to move on.
I don't know why you brought that shit up make me look real stupid.
But yeah, we got to move on.
So I don't know why you had to sit here and embarrass me.
I'm on network make me look like a fool.
But then again, Harris Falkner is known for never ever doing any kind of fact checking whatsoever. She just goes on
and spouts all sorts of nonsense. But what you're seeing though is you're seeing the reality
of what's going on and see what's been happening is all these companies have been scared to death to
raise prices. In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible.
Two young girls had photographed real fairies.
But even more extraordinary than the magazine article's claim
was the identity of the man who wrote the article,
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the man who wrote Sherlock Holmes.
Yes, the man who invented literature's most
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And why does it seem like so many smart people keep falling for outlandish tricks?
These are the questions we explore in Hoax, a new podcast from me, Dana Schwartz, the
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is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means for the
rest of you. It's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen
Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything. The majority of the youth, 18 through 24,
say they trust Republicans more than Democrats differ on the economy.
You kidding me?
Politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it.
Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us.
Bring your brain.
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I dreamt of having a place where voices that have been historically sidelined would instead
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They're creating this narrative that immigrants are criminals.
This is about everyone's freedom of speech.
Nobody expected to pokes from the American continent to stories about our cultures and
our identities.
When you do get a trans character like Ymir Aperez, the trans community is going to push
back on that.
Colorism, all of these things that exist in Mexican culture and Latino culture.
You'll hear from people like Congresswoman AOC.
I don't want to give them my fear.
I'm not going to give them my fear.
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Michael, because they want to piss Trump off, now they're like, okay, you know what?
We can't keep getting our ass kicked.
We just can't keep doing that.
So you got Procter & Gamble announces, yeah, we're going to raise this here.
How about this here? 2022 when Biden was president,
the price of beef was $4.50.
Now it's at $6.12, a new record.
Boy, how about that, Michael?
Boy, those prices are really tumbling down.
Is that what we call new math?
That when it goes up, it's down?
No, that's Trump and the GOP's math.
They just say whatever they want,
whether it's true or not, they say it.
Obviously they get fact checked on channels
that they know their supporters don't watch.
So when they say things on channels
that their supporters do watch,
they believe pretty much anything he says.
So half the country knows the truth.
The other half says, oh, he's working on it.
It'll come down.
Problem is he campaigned to fix all these issues.
I think the term he used on day one,
whether it's wars, the world is on fire,
whether it's inflation,
not doing what he thought it would do.
Prices are going up.
His tariff strategy is a disaster.
So when these Republicans talk about promises made,
promises kept, I'm not sure what they're talking about.
Well, and in fact, Richard Quest,
of course, a CNN business correspondent,
he just sort of just laughed at
all these trade announcements. Because see, what this business correspondent, he just sort of just laughed at all these trade announcements.
Because see, what this fool does, Nola,
is he just announces shit.
He just announces it, and they're like, hey, Trump said it.
But even though it's a lie, check this out.
It's like, hey, Nola, that's-
The deals.
Let's talk about the deals.
Right.
So we've got the deal with the European Union, which somebody has already described as pie in the sky. They simply will not buy that
amount of energy and nor will they invest that amount of money. We have the deal with
Japan where nobody knows where the $650 billion worth of investment is going to come from.
Nobody. The Japanese admit they don't know where it's going to come from. We've got
the deal announced today with the South Koreans. What Donald Trump has brilliantly done, brilliantly done, he wanted a headline number. And it's
around 15%. But the underlying terms of trade deals are garbage.
So, Richard, Richard, Richard, what deal would you have preferred?
How do you mean?
Well, what details of a deal would suffice for you?
Well, I would have liked them to have negotiated a proper long-term deal.
What's proper?
Let's focus on the word proper.
What's proper to you?
Where the detail holds up.
Where the detail...
Because you keep saying this, but you're giving no specificity whatsoever.
I can sit here and name a whole bunch of random ridiculousness.
That means absolutely nothing at all.
No, because they've actually announced a European deal where supposedly $600 million...
So give specifics about when they're like to see in an alternative...
So they can't see me.
...and it's got, give an alternative and give specifics for what would be a deal that would
satisfy your critique.
A long-term trade relationship deal that doesn't rely on a fictitious amount of investment.
The Japan deal, the Japan deal...
Okay Richard.
No, no, no.
I'm listening, I'm listening. The Japan deal envisages $650 billion worth of investment, but nobody says by whom or
how or the penalty against.
It is literally making it up.
They're good at, Noah, making that shit up.
Absolutely.
They're good at it, and they have perfected, they're good at it
and they have perfected how to be good at it.
They say it confidently and they over talk you,
they bully you, just like what we just saw there.
The expert was being questioned by someone
who was just trying to deflect from what the guy was saying
because it was landing,
it was landing and resonating with folks.
But this issue about how they literally just say anything and where media is right now,
where corporate and mainstream media is right now, they're not going to push back, they're
not going to ask any hard questions.
And it was to shift that narrative, because, you know, everything was Epstein, Epstein,
Epstein.
I talked about this on my show, Nightcap, on Tuesday. I talked about this very intersection, that this tariff—supposed this EU tariff deal
is designed so you won't be thinking about Epstein, which is why everyone should still
be thinking about Epstein.
Even if there's no there there, this is an issue that really, really bothers him, and
it bothers his base.
So, you know, the fact that he's doing,
I'm not shocked that he's lying.
I'm not shocked that he's making up deals that have no teeth.
I'm not shocked about any of it.
But here we are, he has successfully changed the narrative
because we are talking about it.
And what we're not talking about is Epstein.
Ta-da.
No, no, no, actually, actually, but he has to change the narrative
because the rights that let him go of it.
So that's the whole point.
He's trying to throw everything at it and they're just all getting added on to it.
But I do got to play this because I thought this was fabulous.
Again, this is what happens.
And I need people to understand if you're ever seen
the little shell game that the Frosters play?
Okay, a master of the shell game on CNN is Scott Jennings.
That smug idiot from Kentucky,
one of the brokeest states in America
that will be decimated by Medicaid cuts and SNAP benefits,
but he doesn't care because he got a new contract to CNN.
Even Abby Phillip just said, you know what?
I'm sick of your bullshit. That's what she said, you know what, I'm sick of your
bullshit. That's what she did. Watch this.
Record high in the stock market.
Oh, come on. These trade deals are garbage.
It's actually much simpler than this. Just one sec, because I think it's super
important to understand. Scott, what was happening in April of this year, 2025?
What was happening then? The president. What did the president announce on that week, the first happening in April of this year, 2025? What was happening then?
The president—
What did the president announce on that week, the first week of April?
What did he announce?
The president was implementing his tariff agenda.
And what were those tariff levels?
And well, they were different for different countries.
But every single person predicted calamity.
Calamity.
Scott, you can't get stepped here.
What were those tariff levels?
They were different.
The editor.
Oh, not just different.
They were two to three times higher than the current tariff levels.
Did those tariffs go into place, Scott?
It's different for every country.
Scott, it's a simple question.
Did those tariffs go into place?
He has delayed some of the tariffs.
Yes or no?
He has delayed some of the tariffs and he's made deals and he's implemented others.
Did any of the tariff levels that Trump announced on that week, did they ever go into place?
Some tariffs have been implemented, some have been delayed, and some deals have been made.
The answer is they did not.
They did not.
Some tariffs have been implemented.
Some tariffs have been implemented.
All of those quotas.
That's why we have all this money coming in.
We actually, we have them here.
That's your thing.
Even you. Even you say it.
Come on, Scott.
You're playing with numbers here.
No, but no.
Back in April, I mean, back in April.
You guys are so mad.
Why are you rooting for failure?
Because.
Why does this take a root for failure?
Quiet, please, because you are saying
that you're rooting for failure.
You're taking a number of 40, 50, 60% back in April
and you're comparing it to a number of 10, 60% back in April and you're comparing it
to a number of 1015% now find strategy to negotiate and
create leverage.
Scott I will let you talk but I just have to say completely
disingenuous to suggest I'm sorry.
I'm calling for a recession.
Me one second for me one second please let me finish it is
completely disingenuous to suggest that what economists
said would happen if Trump imposed 50 and 60% let's let's
jump all the way up to a 135% level tariffs on this economy
would have been a recession. Those levels never happened,
which is why there has been no recession.
So it's not that monolingual.
Sheriff Michael-
Let me explain what happens
when you're a smug asshole like Scott Jennings.
So this is the shell game.
Trump threw out tariffs of 75, 100, 125%.
Economists said, you do that,
we're gonna go into recession.
Jerome Powell said, you do that,
yo, we're not cutting interest rates.
What happened?
Does anybody remember?
See, what the Scots of the world don't wanna bring up,
and that's why the other panelists should have done this,
what happened to the stock market
when he threw those announcements out? What happened to the stock market when he threw those announcements out?
What happened to the bond market?
And that's when Jamie Dimon and others were like,
hey, hey, yo, I'm gonna need y'all to chill.
I need y'all to chill on these tares.
You gotta understand what y'all about to do.
And so all of a sudden they were like,
hey, this ain't gonna work.
This ain't gonna work.
Okay, now,
Jamie Dimon is saying, you know what?
It wasn't bad.
Things are okay.
Why is he saying that?
Because they actually forced Trump to back down.
But see, a mega fool like Scott Jennings,
oh no, no, no, y'all predicted the economy
is gonna fall through the floor and it didn't.
Yeah, dumbass, because the tariffs didn't go into place.
He announced them, he pulled them back,
he announced them, he pulled them back,
he announced them, he pulled them back.
That's what happened.
But see, liars like Scott Jennings
never want to talk about that
because what they wanna do is convince people,
oh no, y'all were the crazy ones.
No, no, we weren't crazy.
The fool who you kiss more ass than Melania Trump
is the crazy one.
So y'all just gotta understand how the shell game
is all being played.
And we're gonna always call it out,
including people like smug, mega idiot, Scott Jennings,
who will do anything to stay in Trump's good graces.
Cause he used to be a Trump opposer,
but it's a lot sweeter financially
when you become a Trump grifter.
And that ladies and gentlemen, is Scott Jennings.
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Dot, glad to see you again.
I reached out to you because-
How are you?
Doing great, doing great.
I reached out to you because someone I know,
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And she said she and the family just totally devastated.
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What the hell happened?
I mean, I think we can look at a few things here.
Some of the statistics you mentioned,
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So we can see the, I see the memes.
We talk about yo, don't mess with nobody in Gen X
because they way tougher than you can think
because we were latchkey kids.
They talk about the rotary phones, the stuff,
all the stuff that we dealt with when we were kids.
But you're talking about kids who are completely inundated
from the moment they are born.
You got two and three year olds who know how to navigate
iPads and who can order stuff from Amazon.
So now when you start talking about all the images,
whether we talking about weight and hair and color and race,
all these different things,
it is a different psychological attack than frankly with the,
what we had to deal with.
Yeah. I, I'll tell you, when I was growing up,
I didn't have social media.
And so one of the things I made sure I put in place
for my daughter, I didn't allow her to watch TV
until she was maybe five or six years old,
and social media was definitely off limits.
And so I think now with the parents,
they lack either the education or the empathy
or just real conversations.
These parents didn't grow up with the tools.
So the emotional and identity related impacts
are often just misunderstood or even minimize.
So you have these kids, they're looking for the likes,
they're looking for the followers.
And all this is doing is teaching kids to equate
self-worth with validation
and all these external approvals.
I mean, now my daughter was showing me you have like filters
and all these space, I guess, application.
All that does is just contribute to,
now we have body image issues.
Right.
You know, you have, especially for our young girls.
And my daughter did at some point,
I remember her ninth grade year,
because all the girls was on social media
and she just started using social media
and she thought that she was too thin.
And that was an issue for about six months
and she's a beautiful girl.
However, the girls are being affected,
the LGBTQ plus community has been affected
along with the youth.
But if you have all this, you know,
hey, I need to get a like, I need to get the followers,
I'm going to change the way I look,
that's going to create a, give us another layer of issues.
But another thing I looked at too was,
I noticed like a lot of viral challenges and peer pressure.
I mean, these kids today,
the whole fear of missing out, FOMO,
they feel like they need to do
all these different things to fit in,
that's creating a bigger issue.
The constant scrolling and looking for who's online,
who's not, all that does is just reduce attention span
and increases anxiety, which isn't really helpful either.
You have the DMS, you have the harassment,
you have the cyber bullying.
All of this leads to depression,
isolation, and suicidal thoughts.
Well, you talked about the cyber bullying.
So, I mean, look, we all can remember
if you were dealing with bullying,
you were dealing with bullying between school hours
or whether you were on the bus going or coming.
Now with social media,
you literally have bullying 24 hours a day.
And it's not just you and three or four other people
who have been in class watching,
it's literally now thousands upon thousands
all around the country of the world.
All day.
Yes, that is the issue. The social media applications are
available at kids youth fingertips. All day. They're at school looking at this stuff. So
just imagine a kid every day wondering if they have followers. Okay, I don't have any
followers today. Maybe people don't like me. They don't see me, I'm not beautiful, maybe I do need to change my image.
And let me keep up with all the challenges.
And this is not even, I think people don't understand,
this ain't just kids.
You have college coaches, high school coaches
who are like, get your ass off your phones at halftime.
You have players, NFL players responding to somebody's
comment on social media and during the headlight,
you playing a professional sport,
get your ass off social media.
But again, it is such a psychological driver.
And like I love these people,
this is real from the MAGA people. Look at that, you're getting ratioed.
Look at that, you posted and you only got 18 retweets.
And I'm like, you gotta be a dumb ass
to start counting retweets.
But again, that's that whole thing.
And then, so now imagine it's just constantly
coming down on you and it's everywhere and literally, yes,
that phone from the moment they wake up
to the moment they sleep, and I know some parents,
we've done that where snatch the phone, no, no, no,
phone's in the room, they're gonna stay right here
until it's time to go to school,
and it's like crack addicts, it's like.
And this is the space, you know, with social media,
when I look at like some of the barriers
and things that can actually be done to help
with the increase in suicidal ideation,
you would think that we would be utilizing
or leveraging social media for the good, right?
How about we follow and share more
of like the positive mental health pages?
How can we encourage, you know, the real storytelling
and not just highlighting all these reels
that are very toxic.
And what can we actually do to call out
some of this bullying and support kids
who are actually struggling online?
But this online interaction is very, very toxic
and we're going to continue to see an increase
in suicidal ideation or suicide is going to continue to see an increase in suicidal ideation or suicide
is going to continue the way it is.
To the folks, if y'all have not seen
the Netflix documentary, The Social Dilemma,
folks, watch that.
It literally talks about how the algorithm
is programmed to do the very thing
that Melendez was talking about in terms
of the moment it feeds into it.
So now how you look in your hair and how you talk in your teeth and oh I need the fillers
and I need this and I need this and it goes just on and on and on and it's impacting people
right here and I don't think that we can overestimate
just how harmful it is when it's not being controlled.
Greg, I wanna go to you first, you're a university professor,
you see this, you're seeing this in the classroom.
And so, and just talk about your experiences
in terms of how you've had to navigate this.
Well, Roland, first of all,
thank you for having this conversation.
And Sister Melendez, thank you for your work
and for leading us in this conversation.
I can tell you, brother,
and I think I can comfortably speak
for all of my colleagues.
And I know one of them, of course course is right here, Dr. Haynes,
Sister Nola.
It's been a complete transformation in the classroom.
I think COVID accelerated a process that had already started with this technology transfer.
But I'll tell you what though, and maybe this is where I'll stop and I ask you a question
about this system. And with the quantum leap, past social media to chat GPT, I have been stunned even as recently
as we just finished summer school at Howard, listening to young people, some of whom have
talked about their friends, which I take as a proxy for some of them. Using chat GPT as a therapist,
interacting with artificial intelligence as if it's human. And we remember the movie a few years ago,
Hurt, where Scarlett Johansson
voiced the artificial intelligence
and this man fell in love basically with himself.
But when you compare what happened
with the disruption in education, FaceTime,
face to face with COVID and the
acceleration in the technology and social media, and then you drop that AI in, I am
not surprised by this really disaster that we have seen not only form, because these
young people are struggling.
And at this point, they're literally talking to themselves and looking for solutions.
I don't know if anybody else has anything to say,
but I'd be very fascinated.
I'd be very interested to hear what you have to say,
SystemaLens, about this particular function of AI.
You know, that is so interesting because, yes,
I do think that COVID-19, there's all these long-term impacts.
We look at isolation.
I do think there was a lot of missed milestones.
There was the grief and family loss.
Definitely even for me just been a mental health professional
there was a mental health system overload where it
literally widen the gap between
the need and support and so this whole a I it's something
that I'm actually learning about my daughter just was
teaching me last week. she was actually asking AI questions
and this lady just kept responding.
So it is new to me.
And I mean, it was anything like,
how do I need to tell my friend
that she shouldn't be sleeping unprotected?
And it literally gave her a whole narrative
of like what she can say.
And so for me, this is new.
I would be interested in learning more about it.
But again, you know, I think it's great.
And even though we have that,
I do think when we look at black people in particular,
there's still this unique, profound set of obstacles.
So we can have the AI,
but then there's still the stigma, there's the
shame, there's this emotional distress that goes unspoken. And I do think that we still need to have
therapy because it's one of the things that actually help. You still have the financial
and systemic barriers that come up, all the high costs. I try to offer low cost therapy as
much as possible, but then you have transportation issues, you have a long wait because we can't see everyone.
You know, and so I do think the AI is great. I just want to make sure that we're not moving
away from like traditional therapy, especially because AI, we don't know how intelligent it is
or what they're actually going to be telling clients. And so, you know, I just wanna make sure
that because there's a culture mistrust,
we wanna make sure that, you know,
clients are able to trust the mental health system,
but we need something that's in place that actually works.
Absolutely, Nola, you're in the classroom as well.
So again, what we are seeing young folks today who are experiencing classmates
taking their own lives and they're dealing with in inner cities, dealing with a level of debt that
we never ever saw as well. So all of this stuff is compounded. Go right ahead, Nola.
Absolutely. And again, I want to thank you both the way that Greg did for talking about this.
Additionally, there's also a lot of awareness that's happening around sex trafficking in a
black community today, actually. So I'm happy that people are talking about these issues that
are typically taboo and left in the vault, right, in the community vault, right? But, you know, one of the things that I see in my classroom,
my students will pay attention
because I still old school lecture,
but it's the conversations that you hear
when they're settling into class
and when they're leaving class.
And it typically is some level of insecurity that they're grappling with. And one of the things
that this takes me to is the Dalt Test and Brown v. Board. And it takes me there because I wonder,
is there some way to be able to measure or to be able to kind of like locate,
you know, the effects that this is having on young kids
before they get to suicide.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, is there some sort of preventative measure
that can happen so we can catch this
before the insecurities just grow
in so many different directions
that there's just nothing left to do
because their entire lives are not only recorded,
but they're scored.
I grew up as a Zillennial,
where men have their score keeping
and women we have our score keeping,
but these kids are literally score kept
on every facet of their lives.
Are there some sort of preventative measures
that your community, Dr. Melendez,
is talking about to try to help before the suicide part? Is there some sort of social
scientific test that can kind of measure some of this to kind of give answers? Those are
the things that I'm thinking about.
When you first meet a client, you know, you complete something called
a bio-cycle social.
And this really helps locate and prevent suicide.
So you're asking the questions to determine early risk factors, right?
And once you can locate that root cause analysis if needed, you then implement some preventive
strategies to address the root cause of the
emotional distress. Because if there's no root cause analysis to see where some of this
is stemming from, then we can't really address the issue to even provide the coping skills
or mechanisms for them to even be able to function in society. So I think when you're
able to locate the insecurity, which are, I guess we can label as
maybe the risk factors, these are all warning signs. You see it, the insecurities, the vulnerability
to suicide can then actually be detected. So if it's psychological insecurity, is there
low self-esteem? Is there hopelessness? Is there chronic self-doubt, which I see a lot of?
Is there chronic self doubt, which I see a lot of.
You have the- Material insecurity.
Yes, perfectionism.
I mean, I see kids and adults struggle with perfectionism.
I mean, I even had some struggle with that at some point,
but then you have the fear of failure,
but then you have social insecurity.
You have digital insecurity.
There's environmental. So if you're exposed to violence and trauma, there's environmental.
So if you're exposed to violence and trauma,
that's part of your environment.
What you're exposed to, if it's abuse,
if it's unstable housing or food,
if it's academic or financial stress.
So it just depends.
If we're looking at digital,
then we may be looking at maybe exposure to cyber bullying
or harmful online content.
So it just depends. And you won't be able to determine that until you actually
meet with a client to understand, hey, maybe there's some verbal or behavioral signs.
Is this person talking about death?
Is this person feeling like maybe they're a burden to another person?
And then you'll start seeing those signs, those red flags where this person is withdrawing
from another person, they're losing interest in maybe some activities.
I mean, you start seeing people give away person, they're losing interest in maybe some activities.
I mean, you start seeing people give away possessions,
they're writing about death.
And so it's all about getting them into the room,
getting them on the phone, getting them on a call
and talking and having real conversations.
I have a call up and I'm getting a call.
Girl, you know dog on whale.
You know dog on whale.
Michael is sitting there waiting to ask a question.
So you need to wait your turn.
Now, see, let them teach you something, Nola.
You might be all your foreign policy stuff.
So let me explain to you how we journalists do it.
We say, I have a question and a follow-up.
Well, I did say follow-up.
No, you did.
No, you did.
No, you did it after the question.
Michael, go ahead with your question.
Nola gotta wait.
Nola gotta wait.
Nola, I'll give you some of my time,
so I'll be very quick.
No, you can't do that.
Only the timekeeper can do that.
Go, ask your question, Michael.
I have three sons and a niece that I'm extremely close to. I'm trying to figure out, do you see a difference with the social media
with males and females relative to impact?
And I asked that in the context of,
no, they're not the same age,
but I asked that in the context of my niece
seemed to have a larger issue after COVID
than my sons did.
So I was wondering if there's a gender issue
both with social media and related to COVID.
media and related to COVID?
You know, with COVID, I saw both male and female. I do think there was, I did see more females,
I think with the psychological effects,
it was more of the body image issues in comparison.
I didn't really see where my males were struggling
with the body image because the girls,
the women are doing all the filters,
the influencers, that unrealistic standards.
I also saw where females,
it was more anxiety, more depression, more self-esteem.
more anxiety, more depression, more self-esteem.
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it had to do with the appearance and maybe social belonging. So it was just like a pretty girl
So it was just like a pretty girl syndrome. Be smart, be beautiful, be kind, be social.
I found more of that with the girls.
And then, I mean, if you did show yourself
in a bathing suit, then you had like the slut shaming
that followed that.
So they're like, okay, let me show myself.
Let me be beautiful.
But then on the back end, it's like you're being sexualized
or the slut shaming comes in.
And this was happening mainly with my black and Latino girls.
Latina girls.
But then you do have the males, you know,
the humor, the politics, the sports, the debates,
it created some engagement.
But I also think that it created more exposure
to maybe toxic masculinity.
It encouraged the guys, hey, I need to be more dominant.
And all they were doing was just avoiding
the vulnerability part of it.
So that risk of maybe emotional suppression,
I saw more with males,
which then of course led to more aggression.
So when these clients would come, it's like, you have all this internalized depression.
What is going on here?
So I think those are the main two things, male versus female.
Well, I think what you also are dealing with is you also have these expectations.
The young lady who was Miss USA, or Miss America, I forgot, who jumped from a building in New York City,
who was an amazing lawyer, accomplishing.
It was like, it was never enough.
And I think when I look at a lot,
you have a lot of young folks,
and they're just neurotic about,
because you got folks like,
no, you gotta get this scholarship,
you gotta have straight A's,
and you gotta be perfect at this,
and this, and this, and this, and this,
and then it's become one after another after another,
and it's an enormous amount of pressure.
I remember I was sitting here,
I was sitting talking to one of my nieces,
and she was just like, oh my God,
I gotta do this at our school,
I was like, girl, calm down.
I said, that shit is a sheet of paper.
I said, okay, and it was like this desire to,
okay, no, but, you know,
magna cum laude, I gotta have straight A's.
I was like, let me explain something to you.
I said, it's the whole bunch of people I graduated with
who had magna cum laude,
and I ain't got nothing against that.
I said, but they broke as hell right now,
and your uncle wasn't no magna cum laude,
and trust me, they would switch places with me
any day of the week.
And I was trying to get her to understand
that your success in life is not going to be determined
by what you do in that moment.
And we've seen this, we've seen young people
who are highly accomplished and it's never enough
and you have parents and others and it's constant pressure
and no, you gotta be great at it.
And a lot of times I'm with some of these parents like,
yo, I need y'all to relax.
I'm like, y'all, and I just think you have to be very mindful
as a parent, as an aunt or an uncle,
putting undue pressure on somebody who's 12, 13, 14, 15, 18,
whether it's in a classroom or sports,
because again, you are literally affecting that psyche
and everybody is not built the same way.
That's for you, Doc.
No, yeah, no, for sure.
I think the, you know, the undue pressure
on children, adolescents definitely contributes
to suicide risk, especially when you have kids
feeling overwhelmed or unsupported,
or they believe their failure equals worthlessness,
you know, and so I've seen it, the academic pressure.
You're right, the high expectation.
Oh, I have to get the perfect grades,
I need to attend the elite schools.
I saw it with my daughter,
she just went through the application process
and even though she has great grades,
she's like, hey, this person or they end up going
to this school that was more elite.
And I say, hey, look, let's not worry about that.
I'm not going to be disappointed.
I mean, she applied to, I think, 18 schools
and basically gotten to all of them,
but still, that chronic stress, that burnout,
that anxiety, the feelings of failure
is all a result of academic pressure, the social pressure,
needing to be popular, needing to be liked,
needing to be on social media.
I need to belong, I need to be in the right friend group.
I need this identity click. And to be in the right friend group, I need this
identity click.
And so my daughter went to a school where there's a lot of celebrity kids.
And I mean, she's not a celebrity kid, but it resulted in possibly, you know, at times,
at times it was mainly early in like maybe her seventh or eighth grade year, there was
a little social anxiety.
And all of a sudden by her eighth grade year, she said, I don't wanna go out for lunch.
What do you mean you don't wanna go out for lunch?
She was sitting in the library, she was isolating
and I'm like, okay, what is it that I need to do?
And I definitely didn't wanna put the parental pressure
because I do see that where you have parents
who are overly involved,
they have these unrealistic expectations for their kids
and sometimes it's sports, it's family repartee.
Oh, especially the sports team.
Yeah, I've seen it.
And at her school where she goes, that was huge.
And just sometimes you gotta be honest.
Your kid can't play.
Right, no.
So just be happy they ask how to uniform.
But I'm serious.
I just think that, I don't know why we sit here
and like, we don't want to be honest.
Some kids can't play sports.
Just be on the team, run around, do the whole teamwork,
but your ass will not be starting.
No, and that was a huge one at her school, but again-
What's wrong, Michael?
I just, what?
It was huge.
Like, I don't get it.
I don't get why we can't be honest.
And sometimes, Doc, we gotta tell brothers or sisters
or aunts and uncles, I need to sit your ass down.
Your kid is, there was a word we used growing up.
Let's see if, Nola probably don't remember this
down in New Orleans, but Michael, I know you and Greg.
Do y'all remember the word afflicted?
Flichted.
Flichted.
Short for afflicted.
Right, the word was afflicted.
We use that word doc for everything.
If your kid couldn't dance,
if your kid couldn't play sports if your kid couldn't play sports,
your kid is afflicted.
Sometimes we just gotta go ahead and let the other folks know,
I think you put a little too much pressure.
That kid is not gonna be great at that.
So stop trying to make them something they're not
because that's just a level of pressure.
Not gonna.
No, I mean, no, when you look at the psychological
consequences with parental pressure,
we're creating kids who are being raised, dealing with anxiety, they're dealing with
the depression, they're constantly feeling like they're a failure, they're dealing with
the perfectionism, any little mistake that these kids are making, they are feeling unloved
and disposable.
And now what they're doing is dealing
with emotional suppression.
There's no safe outlet for them to even talk or cry.
Why?
Because they can't go to their parents,
and maybe they may not have insurance to even go
talk to with their parents.
So now you have suicidal ideation.
I'm feeling like death is the only escape
for whatever pressure that I'm feeling at death is the only escape for whatever pressure
that I'm feeling at this point. All right, Nola, come on. Make your question quick.
A question, not a statement, a question, not a sermonette, a question.
I did very well in English. Thank you so much for that, for, you know, walking me through that.
See, you wasting time. You do this every time. You try to be petty and then you waste time.
Now come on, ask your question.
Oh, you mean match your petty.
You mean match your petty.
See, you wasting time.
Don't let me, don't let me thank Doc and close this out.
Come on now.
Do what you wanna do.
Ask your question.
My question is everything that you just said
about cost and availability and all these things.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is there some larger social test that can be constructed like the DOLL test.
You know, to be able to catch this in other ways outside of students
coming to an office considering everything
that's being rolled back with insurance
is gonna be more expensive,
like all the things that are happening.
I'm just trying to figure out
what could possibly be a social cultural way
to be able to catch this.
If you don't have the money to pay you
or the time or the availability.
I'm just curious, are there, is there something out there?
Is there a tool out there that already exists like that?
I mean, outside of your digital and clinical
risk screening tools that a lot of therapists and psychologists use,
you know, you have your PHQ-9, which looks at suicide risk, and it's used for
depression, suicidal ideation, and it's online. People can go and check and say,
okay, here's a free screening tool for me to be able to use.
But there isn't anything else that's really free.
There's a lot of, you know,
they have all these quizzes and tests that you can take.
I mean, I'm in the process of actually building
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And it's basically, yes, mental health services
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You can participate in live conversations
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So that's in the making.
So there's different strengths.
That's wonderful.
Yeah, so that's what I'm looking forward to that.
But yeah, I mean, you have the SVQ, I think,
what you looked at is short, it's a few questions.
But I will tell you the challenge that I'm saying,
I was just working with a group of kids, they can't read.
So even if they self-administer this test for themselves,
you give it to them and say, hey, answer these questions,
these kids could not read.
Hell no.
So I had to have someone reach out to these kids,
actually ask the questions every two weeks
to keep up with where they are
with their emotions and feelings.
So that's an issue in the black and brown community.
It's huge, they cannot read.
But they own social media.
They're on social media.
Well, I'ma tell you right now,
it has nothing to do with this particular issue.
But my greatest fundamental issue that I have
with two or three generations is the inability to think.
And I think part of this thing, Doc,
as you were talking about how do we communicate,
I think there's so many people who are parents
who wanna give the answer.
Where I'm a firm believer, no,
I'm gonna need you to think your way through this.
I'm gonna need you to be able to express yourself
and talk but think.
And I think thinking and processing
are two of the greatest problems that we have today.
And so when you're having these conversations,
they literally can't even articulate what the issues are
because we have not created spaces
to force them to think and process.
And that just to me, and I think we see it in classrooms,
I see it all the time, right interns, think.
I'm gonna blast. What? Oh, they are all five of them. No. Yeah. Oh, they know. They know. Oh,
trust me. Oh, trust me. They know again. So we, we, yeah, we have,
we have think sessions. I ain't giving you the answer. You got to think.
But again, this is something that for me,
I did this with my nieces when they were early. No, I'm not giving you the answer.
I'm not-
Yeah, but I'll tell you, you know,
but when we're talking about the black and brown community,
a lot of these kids or youth or young adults
can't think because their parents can't think.
And when you look at the causes to inability to think,
these parents are under a lot of chronic stress.
They're dealing with depression and anxiety.
There's even what I'm seeing undiagnosed learning differences.
So their trauma responses freeze, disassociate.
So no, they're not thinking.
There's a cognitive fog.
There's a mental shutdown.
There's disorganized thoughts.
So how are they going to teach their children to think
when these parents can't think,
but they're the same parents that either are,
there is either negative or positive over pressure
to perform.
The invalidation part that comes with,
hey, telling your kids, hey, get over it,
or you're being dramatic.
You know, there's no room for failure.
I'm quick to tell my daughter, it's okay if you fail,
but what are we gonna do about it to recover?
A lot of these parents, because they are stressed,
they're creating adults who are emotionally unavailable.
Why?
Because their parents are unavailable.
Parents aren't listening, they're distracted,
they're dismissive.
The parents are on social media.
Then you have just the tax of criticism.
I hear so many parents, they're yelling, they're cussing.
I'ma threaten you with punishment.
That didn't go on in my household.
I did really well with my kids.
So when I look at her and I look at some of the kids
that may come to our practice,
and when I talk to parents to kind of walk them through
things, I'm like, you guys aren't even talking about mental health. They're
ignoring the signs and refusing.
It's like, what are we doing here? Indeed, indeed doc. Um, what's your website?
People want to reach out to you. Ttm counseling.com. All right.
Dr. Tatiana Melendez was surely appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you.
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