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Martin! All right, folks, a powerful storm in St. Louis has caused $1 billion in damages.
The storm hit more than 4,400 buildings.
At the height of the storm, over 100,000 residents lost power, five people have become have been
confirmed dead, and dozens more were hospitalized
with injuries. As of noon this past Sunday, some 36,000 customers were still without electricity.
Despite 1,900 workers on the ground, restoring power has been a huge challenge with nearly 300
power poles down. Joining us now is the former mayor of St. Louis, Missouri, Tashara Jones.
Thank you so much for being with us tonight.
Thank you for having me.
So can you describe a little bit about what's going on
on the ground right now?
What does it look like to you when you hit the streets?
Yeah, so I have been out in community for the last three
days since the storm hit.
My neighborhood, it took a direct hit as well.
I've been out without power up until last night,
and there are still hundreds or thousands of people
still without power.
And what I have seen as I drive around the community
and as I am helping people dig out of this horrendous storm
is that we still need more help and that the
need is vast.
And so the city is doing its coordination with other departments regionally and nationally.
And where I have chosen to focus my efforts as the former mayor of this city is trying
to make sure that no one falls through the cracks and what
are those gap services that we can provide. So I have been working with Action St. Louis
on the ground as we do resource distribution, as we raise money to help people get through
this because we know that most of the storm hit a majority black and brown communities,
actually majority black communities.
And a lot of those communities are not gonna have
the resources they need to recover after this tornado.
So what are you expecting something in terms of
what the president can do and those with the executive powers
can do at this time? What does that look like?
Well, we had a tornado back in March
and President Trump still has not issued
an emergency declaration from that.
So, you know, we don't expect him to act with urgency
to issue an emergency declaration for this storm.
So we have to mobilize and organize
and make sure that we have our communities back.
And that's exactly why I tried,
why I'm coming on here tonight to let people know
how they can help the black community in St. Louis
recover from this deadly tornado.
All right, let's talk about that a little bit more.
What can people do?
You said that you are, you know,
that you already have a couple of thousand people
on the ground, that is not enough. But what can people do? You said that you are, you know, they already have a couple of thousand people on the ground.
That is not enough,
but what can people who are watching tonight
do for your community?
Well, first and foremost,
they can contribute to Action St. Louis,
and I will send you a link where people can contribute
to Action St. Louis,
and they are providing direct resources to communities.
So we are collecting
all sorts of supplies, cleaning supplies, construction supplies, plywood, wheelbarrows,
whatever we can get our hands on to make sure and then deploy that out into the community.
We're working with AmeriCorps to make sure that we can put together a database of people
that still need help.
And then we will continue to call on our people who have expertise in construction to help
rebuild roofs, to help tarp roofs.
So we are boots on the ground, making sure that we are, that no one falls through the
cracks.
And so we have been stationed at a local YMCA.
If people are familiar with St. Louis,
the O'Fallon Park YMCA on a daily basis,
just to make sure that there is somewhere
that people can come and let us know what they need.
And then we will also deploy the resources
within those communities.
And what are you finding are the needs
that residents are coming to you the most?
What are people saying on the ground when you talk to them?
Well, a lot of people are still without power and we realize that our utilities are working
around the clock to restore power.
The biggest need is repairs to homes and what happens when you don't have access to power. So our seniors, our disabled will also need housing
as we continue, as we try to rebuild their apartments,
their homes, you know, in the black community
and especially in St. Louis, we have old housing stock,
an old, beautiful housing stock, you know,
four sides brick,
three layers of brick in some of these homes.
And so bricks are everywhere on the ground.
And so we are picking up and salvaging what we can,
but it also makes rebuilding very, very difficult
and very expensive.
So we are trying to make sure that we can shore up
the homes where we can.
Again, there are other storms that are expected later on in the week.
And so just making sure that people have what they need to ride this out.
And then we'll also pivot to talk about other financial resources that we can raise money for
to help them survive or recover from this storm. And what is your advice to people in your community?
Because as you said, you just came,
did not recover yet from the past storm.
Now we are in a situation where more storms
potentially be coming.
What do you tell your residents, your community
in terms of preparing for what is possibly to come?
What I'm telling everybody is to make sure that you have some people who will have your back
and so you're not taken advantage of.
We hope that everyone has insurance,
but we realize that many may not
and may need help rebuilding their homes.
And in some cases, those homes may not be able to be rebuilt.
We are talking about a community that has been neglected for at least 70 plus years.
And so rebuilding is going to be very difficult.
But we want to be a part of the solution and provide as many resources as necessary.
And that's why we are asking people
Everywhere across the country to donate to action st Louis that way we know that resources will get directly to the people in need and need it most
Action st. Louis when we talk about a timeline what you're doing to help people in terms of people going back to work in school. I
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And getting on their way, what's the outlook in terms of,
I know that possible recovery isn't going to happen fully
for anytime soon, but what is the timeline
for what your hopes are?
We're probably gonna be in recovery mode
for several months,
because our public transportation system
also took a hit, a direct hit.
So just when I was picking my son up
from the airport last night,
I saw our crews out trying to fix our train system
or our MetroLink system.
We're going people are people's cars were buried under trees and so they're going to need transportation to work. You're going to have people without work because their businesses
were also decimated through the storm. So recovery is going to be very, very long and very arduous
going to be very, very long and very arduous and very difficult for a lot of people.
So anybody within the sound of my voice,
we need all of the resources that we can
to help this community recover from this horrible
once in a lifetime storm,
because a tornado hasn't hit this part of our community
since 1959.
Now, in terms of the monies that you're asking for,
where will it go directly?
How will it serve the community?
So Action St. Louis has been buying supplies
for people buying water, food, construction supplies,
and literally we set up shop
where people can come pick them up.
We also work with other organizations
to deploy them in communities
for the construction materials, for example.
We're working with a couple of organizations
and labor unions to collecting addresses
to make sure that those who need construction on their homes
or it needs some shoring up that we are deploying units
or volunteers to help shore up these people's homes.
So that's what the money's going for.
When you donate to Action,
that money goes directly into the community.
I know that people can lose hope during these times.
What is the sense from the people that you're talking about,
about their outlook,
how they're feeling about St. Louis, Missouri,
especially when more storms could potentially be coming?
The one thing that I have seen
as I have been in the community since the storm hit
is the resiliency of our community.
People are really pulling together
and it's such a beautiful thing.
As I was on a street helping one of my former staffers
with his home, people drove by or walked by with water,
with food, with snacks,
cause they realized that once you're working
and you just don't stop to eat or to stay hydrated.
So our community is really coming together
and it's such a beautiful thing.
And also, what I want people to know is that we will rebuild.
We are a resilient community and we are coming together
during this storm to help each other,
to help our neighbors, to help our friends and family.
So I am very, very
hopeful that we will rebuild our community after this horrible storm because we are going
to come together and roll our sleeves up and help our neighbors and friends rebuild.
All right, Tishara, I want you to one more time just mention how people can give you
donations in order to help your community before we leave tonight.
So Action St. Louis is a nonprofit and you can find them on ActBlue. So if you go to ActBlue.com
you can search for Action St. Louis for their 501c3. They're a nonprofit and donate there and we
will welcome any size donation from a dollar to whatever you can afford. We
realize that these are tough times for everybody but we are asking people to keep first keep us
in your prayers but also if they can help us out help us recover and help us help our community
recover we would greatly appreciate it. All right Tashaura Jones the former mayor former mayor of St. Louis, Missouri, thank you for letting us know.
Our hopes and prayers are with you,
and I'm certain that people will donate to help you
in what's to come.
Thank you again, good to see you.
Thank you, God bless.
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All right, I wanna welcome our panel tonight.
I am joined by Dr. Julianne Melvaux,
economist and president emerita of Bennett College
and author of Surviving and Thriving,
365 Facts in Black Economic History.
She's out of Washington, DC.
Also joining us tonight,
former Georgia state representative, Renita Shannon out of Washington, D.C. Also joining us tonight, former Georgia State Representative
Renita Shannon, out of Atlanta, Georgia,
and finally, Dr. Omekongo Dabinga,
senior professional, excuse me, lecturer
at the School of International Service
at American University and author of
Lies About Black People, How to Combat Racists.
He is out of Washington, D.C.
I want to start with the good doctor, Dr. Dabists. He is out of Washington, D.C.
I want to start with the good doctor, Dr. Dabenga.
How are you doing tonight?
I'm great. How are you?
I am doing well. Listen, I just wanted to talk to you
about the storms, your take on really what the president
and his office should be doing at this time.
It seems to me that he steps up
in other places that need money,
but some reason not St. Louis.
Well, you know, whenever your citizens are struggling,
just go bring some so-called farmers in from South Africa
and set them up with housing and jobs
and everything else that they need.
I mean, this is disgraceful.
During the last Trump administration,
I remember listening to Black mayors across the country who
said, when Trump went to Atlanta and other places,
when Trump was mayor, I mean, was president,
we were on our own.
And it seems like that's repeating itself right now.
And one of the things I'm wondering also
is with the firings that they're doing in places like NOAA
and the like, they're getting rid of, like,
overnight forecasters.
And were there signs that a hurricane that were coming that were missed because of what they were doing with Elon's places like Noah and the like, they're getting rid of like, you know, mid-overnight forecasters and, you know,
were there signs that a hurricane that were coming
that were missed because of what they were doing
with Elon's Musk department,
that maybe some people could have got early warning signs
and maybe evacuated and the like.
So on some levels, their ignorance and budget cuts
are making these storms worse.
And then the people are not getting help
on the other side of it.
And it's also sad that, to be quite honest,
like I've heard stories about the hurricanes and the like,
but I haven't seen this on any other network.
I haven't seen anyone talk about it in March, except us.
I haven't seen anyone talk about it in recent days
in terms of the lack of assistance
that these people are getting.
People just talk about hurricane blew through town,
certain people die, people have no power,
and that's about it.
And this is how the president gets over. We expect Trump to do what he does, but Trump
has been known to bow when the pressure becomes strong enough. And if people aren't reporting
on these things, then there can't be any pressure. And so people need to get this word out. We
need to spread that Web site to help people get the funds.
But this is going to be the case for the next four years.
How do I know that?
Because it was the case for the last four years.
There's nobody coming to save us but us.
It's tragic, more attention needs to be drawn to it.
And his hands needs to be forced
in order to help serve our people.
We can't just give up, but we have to call it out.
Yeah, Dr. Dabenga, you are so right.
I spoke to a couple of people today.
I said, have you really heard about the storm?
They said, no, I absolutely knew nothing about it, which is incredible because of the number
of media outlets that we have that are out there, not traditional, but also online.
Representative Shannon, I wanted to ask you this about the responsibility of the politicians
to jump in here.
I haven't heard a lot about that either.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, obviously it's the responsibility
of the elected officials to help lead folks
through traumatic events and through events like this
that really rock the foundation of the residents
that live in the places that have voted for them,
their constituents essentially.
But this does, so that's kind of the role
of the elected officials to speak up for their communities
and say what their communities need as the, even though she's the former mayor, Mayor Jones just
told us what the community needs, she's still pretty much serving as an elected official,
even though she's not currently in office. So she's doing what she needs to do. The folks who are
currently active and elected need to be doing the same. But I would add the larger point is that
this is really the place where the federal government really needs to step in with assistance.
And so I would argue that Trump is not only just trying to screw black folks, he screws
his own.
Don't forget that Sarah Huckabee Sanders, governor of Arkansas, recently had to fight
the Trump administration where her state needed help because of a climate disaster, and they
were denied.
So all of the cuts that you hear about,
whether it's cutting the national weather service,
whether it's saying that they're gonna take down FEMA
and cuts to FEMA and all of these services
that collectively support the country and everyone
and folks in different states,
all of those services really,
you don't realize how much these things really matter until you need them.
It's almost like insurance.
You don't care about that support
until you need that support.
Dr. Malvaux, I'm sure, no surprise to you.
You know, he's taking FEMA apart
and FEMA would be the agency that will respond from this.
So as Renita has said, you don't know what you need
until you don't need it.
People don't know that we need FEMA until FEMA is there.
I was in Grenada over the weekend
celebrating Malcolm X's mother.
And I was with a brother, Mike Rogers,
who's a big corporate deal in St. Louis, and he is spending most of his
time, he's supposed to be with us, on the phone trying to figure out what was
going on. And one of the things one of the other brothers said is, this isn't on
the internet. You know, most of us get our news these days through, you know,
CNN, PBS, da-da-da. This is not a big deal for those people who choose to ignore it.
So while I'm not holding all media responsible,
I'm wondering where your lens goes and why.
And why that lens does not go.
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time,
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It's not, you know, wasn't their land.
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You know, like you said, it is a problem bigger than we know.
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after the alleged incident that she talked about.
Rishar sued Combs last year, accusing him of groping,
assaulting, and imprisoning her,
and threatening her life when she defended Binshore.
She also sued him for unpaid wages.
What also came out on Friday,
on Rish Richard's first day
of testifying was that Combs' lawyers filed
to have her lawsuit dismissed.
Finally on the witness stand today
was Cassie Ventura's former best friend, Carrie Morgan.
She described instances of being allegedly abused by Combs.
Dr. Malvaux, I wanna start with you.
I know your feelings about this trial.
I know you say, listen, we've got a lot more important things to think about than this trial.
But I think that there is some importance in terms of having eyes on the justice system,
especially when people of color are involved. Yeah, I know that people have been in your ear,
even if you haven't been following it yourself. what is your take so far on what you think is happening?
Well, I think that,
Oma Congo called me on my stuff
the last time we were here together,
because I said I don't care about it.
And frankly, I still don't.
What I care about is the misogynoir.
I care about the fact that black women are too often,
often sidelined and black men are too often excused.
I would like to have 30 minutes,
maybe even 10 with that man in a small room
with an ugly stick.
So I could just, you know,
that came into next week, asking,
I know your mama didn't raise you like this boy.
I know that you did, you know,
anyway, neither here nor there.
I can't deal with the particulars of this
because it's layered,
but I can deal with the societal impact of this
because it's important.
How are black women and girls?
Cause you know, some of these people are girls at 14.
How are they introduced to the music business?
Who gives them a pass?
Who closes their eyes when they see a predator,
a predator hitting on a little girl
and having sex with her in a room
with all that baby oil and stuff.
Ooh, I mean, don't get me started.
Well, I think you're already started.
I do want to say, listen, in this particular place,
so far we are talking about adults, the question
becomes Dr. Dabenga consenting adults. And that really is the
question on the table here, whether Cassie Ventura, whether
the other victims actually consented to this? Or was this
just as the defense attorneys and all the turn our painting
that listen, these are two drug addicts in a bad relationship
and people have all been there.
What are your thoughts about this?
Well, look, as somebody who's been in the game
in terms of, you know,
rapping and putting out albums and touring
and things like that, you know,
I'm familiar with how cutthroat the industry is
and how people have had to do incredible things
to advance themselves.
And I think that that's a big part of this.
I think that this idea that these were just people
who were just, you know, cold drug addicts
or whatever they said who just love parties,
I think it's nonsense.
R. Kelly is a R&B figure, right? So Diddy is really the first person in hip hop
to really suffer the consequences of the Me Too movement.
Me Too movement skipped over rappers.
And it really bothered me that a lot of these guys
were not called to task like some of these other guys,
the Weinsteins, the Bill Cosbys and all of that.
This is a moment for us to really reflect.
I personally, you know, do not believe that Cassie
and these guys are lying and making up stuff
and, you know, just trying to get attention.
I don't believe in any of that.
I believe at the end of the day
that Diddy has always been a violent person.
I believe that this is a person
who inside himself is a small person,
and so has always had a need to dominate and control people.
And he's not the only one in hip hop.
We come out of a culture, particularly those of us
who are part of that hip hop generation.
If we go back and listen to the music, a lot of the stuff,
a lot of it was about sex and relationships
with underage people.
You know, BBD, Doomy Baby, backstage, underage, adolescent.
How you doing? LL Cool J, Big old butt, I was down at the high school,
whatever, like, we came out of this culture.
And a lot of us were too young to understand
what was going on, we danced to it.
Now we're older, we're parents, aunties, uncles,
and whatever, and now we need to be part of the group
that's gonna hold our community accountable.
So I'm hoping that it all comes out.
I hope that there's not any particular glitches or whatever that leads to some form of mistrial
because this story needs to be told.
And it's chilling hearing all of the stories,
but at the same time, I'm glad that these stories
are coming out so we can know so much of this
behind the scenes stuff about the growth of hip hop
that people just don't know about.
Dr. Dabinka, I want to stay with you for a long moment,
especially because you have been in the industry.
You know, in court, there were several, many, many emails
where Cassie Ventura looks like
she did want to participate.
And I know that can be explained in many different ways.
People get themselves in bad relationships
and often do things for their partners
they don't want to do.
Does it extend to this for the normal average person?
Probably not, but for her, this was the threshold.
And of course there were times
where she said she was abused.
I'm just wondering if you were on that jury,
would that make a difference to you
that there were in fact some texts where she said,
hey, I am ready for a freak off and I love you.
Or she was doing drugs on her own
or she would call male escorts
after they left on her own. All of that did come out from her own mouth. And I'm wondering
just how you feel about, especially again, being part of the industry.
Well, look, people have to understand. I mean, look at the age difference between Cassie
and Diddy. Look at her career trajectory as it relates to their relationship. And they're
like, I hope that the people who are prosecuting Diddy are doing a good job. I
haven't watched every ounce of the trial. They're doing a good job of helping people
understand the pressures that a lot of these young women particularly go through to be
part of the industry.
And so my hope is that these people on the jury will look at the scale, my hope of what
he did vs. what she may have done afterwards.
I hope that they will have people who are trauma and abuse experts who can speak
about things like Stockholm syndrome and how people may feel attached, you know,
to their captor.
I'm somebody who's also worked internationally in the field of sex trafficking.
And so I understand what it's like for somebody to feel like.
And people say, well, she was a singer, she was famous.
It doesn't matter.
I know exactly, I've seen what it's like for people to feel like, and people say, well, she was a singer, she was famous, it doesn't matter. I know exactly, I've seen what it's like for people
to feel like they have to be under the thumb of somebody,
even when that person is not around.
And so regardless of what she may have done here and there,
there's a larger network of issues that she,
as far as I can tell, was a victim to.
And so I'm hoping that the jury can indeed see through that,
but it's up to the prosecution
to make sure that that is happening.
Representative Shannon, before I get to you, I just wanted to share with folks that, you know, going into the courtroom and seeing Sean Combs, all gray. I mean, the pictures about 20 pounds with his glasses. At times he
reads the Bible. He's, you know, thanks to everybody who was in there and he watches everything and he
takes notes. The public is overnight there at 3 p.m., 6 p.m., lining up, especially during the
time of Cassie. Today it wasn't that bad. But there's just a lot of talk in the courtroom,
outside of it rather, about, you know, what could happen. And I think that a lot of this just has to do with who is telling
the better story. And like Dr. Dominguez said, we need somebody to contextualize this because why did
she stay in this relationship for 11 years? Representative Shannon, what are people talking
about in your circles?
Well, I think that people are really shocked
that this is really such a complex case
because it is really complicated.
I think a lot of people thought that this was gonna be
a case very similar to the R. Kelly case
where it was almost pretty clear what was happening
that he was keeping folks, holding folks hostage
for the purpose of sex and making people do things completely against
their will almost the entire time. This case has become very complex because through testimony,
we do know that Cassie said that in the beginning things were consensual. She did want to do these
things because she did not want him to leave her. So that, I think the prosecutors have the job of
basically figuring out, okay, since everybody admits that at some point this was consensual, when did it become coercion?
You got to establish that timeline.
I've been keeping up with the case,
and what I'm seeing is that they're doing a great job
of outlining these state charges.
I'm seeing almost every day, plenty of things
where they're proving that he's guilty of state charges,
but they haven't made the full link
for those federal sex trafficking charges and all of that.
And I think that it's becoming complicated but they haven't made the full link for those federal sex trafficking charges and all of that.
And I think that it's becoming complicated
because of the text messages where they are,
showing where she said that she wanted
to do some of these things.
And so it's just become a very, very complicated case,
but overall I would say there's a lot
that can be learned from this.
I think about how folks sort of push back
on what they would call, you know, being woke
and some of the newer values that have really entered
our society and one of them is really conversations
about consent, also push back about, you know,
not that, you know, consent is woke.
It's like, well, consent is a thing that you understanding
consent and how consent actually works is the thing that can keep consent and how consent actually works
is the thing that can keep you out of jail.
And I think that he's seeing that right now,
which is that what you may cast aside
is just what garbage or BS has nothing to do with you
is actually a thing that separates you and being in jail.
Yeah, so I want to give a little insight.
Today I was in court, Dawn Rashad, she took the stand.
She was a former member of the band, Denity Kane, and was on the reality show, making the band.
I was very interested because she was a corroborating witness to say, hey,
I did see Cassie be put in these dangerous situations where she was beat, she was struck,
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ushers, you know, who was even out to dinner, being punched right there at the dinner table.
But you know, when Cross came, they really put a lot of holes in her story,
asking about specificity.
Did she see Sean Combs hitting Cassie with a pan,
a frying pan, as she was making eggs one morning?
And so she went back and forth,
and I'm afraid that on Cross, you could look at the jury,
and the jury was not having it.
They did not take her as a credible witness.
And it was very difficult just to sit there and think,
okay, wait, what was true?
What wasn't true?
Because she did seem to change her story.
She said, she answered it to all the questions
to the best of her ability,
but it certainly didn't come out very well.
All right, anybody want to give a final comment
on the Shawn
Choms trial? Is that going to be you Dr. Malvo? It can be what you know one of the
things I think is important here obviously the prosecution has proven
that this man is a horrible human being who hits women who coerces people and
the question is consent. The question is because he had had all this money, so he could manipulate people,
but at what point were you complicit in your own oppression?
And I think that's what the jury
is going to have to grapple with.
I mean, did you choose to get your behind beat
because you thought you were gonna get a record deal?
Hmm.
You know, I mean, as I said, I'm an elder.
I look at this bit and I shake my head.
But I also say that people should not be coerced.
Their livelihood should not be placed on the line,
which appears to have been done here.
And those like Omokongo,
who know more about the music industry than me,
are better qualified to talk about it.
I would just say this stinks.
I don't know if it was a federal case,
but certainly it's a case of some sort.
And black folks, yeah, we have,
I was with a bunch of people, multi-generational,
and I had a couple of folks say,
well, did she choose to do that?
We have to start looking critically
at the people we lift up.
If nothing else, nobody ever, ever, ever, ever
needs to buy another Diddy whatever, whatever, whatever. Again, record, boy, ever, ever, ever needs to buy another ditty, whatever, whatever, whatever again.
Record, boy, just go sit by the small hole to sit in.
Could be the jail, but it could be your mama's house.
You said your mama has a lesson.
Listen, this was a federal case.
I want to say that. You mentioned her record deal.
She had a 10 record record deal.
She had one record come out of that lengthy relationship,
be it personal or professional.
And I want to say this before I throw the break,
that I do think they have made the case
that he did cross someone over state lines
for the purposes of prostitution.
That is the lowest charge.
So in terms of the jail time he would get,
you know, it's up to 10 years,
but I do think that they are actually gonna say,
and so far have proven prosecution and defense, all right, it's up to 10 years, but I do think that they are actually going to say,
and so far have proven prosecution and defense, all right, we'll give that up. We are kind of
conceding to that. He did cross state lines for purposes of engaging sex and paying for that sex.
All right, we're going to be keeping more up with more on that here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. And
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Louisiana is at the center of a voting rights fight.
A new lawsuit is taking aim at a controversial new state law, Senate Bill 436, that now requires proof of citizenship
just to register to vote.
We're talking about birth certificates,
passports, other documents of proof,
but the law doesn't clearly define what's acceptable
or how voters are supposed to even submit it.
Civil rights groups, including the NAACP
and the League of Women Voters say,
this is not just confusing, it's unconstitutional.
They argue that the law creates unnecessary hurdles
that will hit black voters, low income communities,
students and seniors the hardest.
Joining us now is Danielle Lang.
She's the Senior Director of Voting Rights
at the Campaign Legal Center.
Danielle, welcome to Roller Martin Unfiltered.
And I wanna start with this.
What exactly makes this law so dangerous?
Thank you so much for having me and taking time to talk about this important case. So
you're absolutely right that Louisiana recently passed a law that says that you have to provide
proof of citizenship when you register to vote. I think there are a few things that
make this law so dangerous.
It is essentially a copycat version of a federal bill
that's being considered called the SAVE Act
that has passed the House,
but that has been enormously controversial
because it would throw voter registration nationwide
into chaos.
And that's exactly what this law
in Louisiana threatens to do. Voter registration
is designed to be a simple process, one where you can fill out a form and get on the rolls
so you can show up and vote on election day. And now there's a new law that says that anytime
you register to vote or even if you move county and you have to re-register, update your registration, you're gonna have to provide proof of citizenship.
And that alone is enormously harmful.
We know that when states have tried this out before,
and very few have, but the ones that have,
tens of thousands of folks, largely students,
low-income people, people of color,
are disenfranchised
because the burdens and hurdles that you face
in trying to provide that documentation,
make it difficult to get registered to vote.
But what happens here in Louisiana
is that the legislature passed this law
with absolutely no idea how it was gonna be implemented,
no rules about who is going to collect this, how they're going to be implemented, no rules about who is going to collect this,
how they're going to collect it,
what counts as proof of citizenship,
whether or not a copy is acceptable,
do you have to submit it in person?
Does this imply to online voter registration?
Does it apply when you use the federal form?
We just don't know.
And that makes our clients in a very difficult position,
because they're trying to engage in voter registration drives. How can they do that
under these circumstances? And let me just provide one example of how difficult it can be for proof
of citizenship for individual voters, especially when there are no definitions about what counts.
So many married women, of course, change their name
when they get married.
And in order to provide proof of citizenship,
your driver's license isn't going to be good enough
because lots of people with immigration status
other than citizenship can get driver's licenses.
So you're going to need something more than a driver's license.
You're going to need something like a birth certificate likely to provide proof of citizenship.
Well, most married women, if they've changed their name, their birth certificate name is
obviously not going to match the name on the voter registration rolls or the name on their
driver's license.
So what is somebody in that circumstance supposed to do?
This law makes it impossible to know
what someone like that is supposed to do.
Not a well thought out law.
What are your thoughts about,
people don't understand that while many people
we may know have their birth certificates,
a lot of people just don't have them
or they were born in a time
where they weren't keeping track of them
if they didn't need them.
If you're 90 years old and you're down
and you live in Alabama, and this is someone who I know,
they did not have their birth certificate.
They had to find someone that knew them
and had to go sign an affidavit
to get the birth certificate to connect all of the dots.
Some people don't even have birth certificates.
That's absolutely true. So it was very common for elderly folks,
especially black elderly folks in the South,
to not ever get issued a birth certificate in the first instance.
But even outside of that population,
think about all the people who don't have that easily accessible to them.
Students are a perfect example. right? So if you're
a student at LSU and you're trying to get registered to vote and you're on campus and there's a voter
registration drive and you want to get registered and then they say, oh, in order to get registered
and vote, you actually have to provide your birth certificate. You know, most students that I've
encountered in this work, their birth certificate is somewhere with their parents in some files, maybe somewhere else in the state, maybe outside of the state. And getting that in
a timely fashion, getting access to copiers and scanners, this is not an easy task. Folks in
Louisiana are no stranger to natural disasters. Folks lose their records in those natural disasters.
Sometimes those records themselves are lost
in the government offices that keep them.
So there are many folks in many different circumstances
that are gonna have trouble providing
this type of documentation.
In fact, a recent study suggested that something
on the order of 9 million Americans don't
have this kind of documentation.
Again, in Louisiana, we're not even sure what we're talking about here and what might count.
And we've seen different definitions, right?
So some states or some kind of the federal legislation talks about tribal legies.
Some draft legislation includes tribal legies,
some does not.
So what's gonna count is very unclear.
There's been no guidance given by the secretary of state.
This law, I couldn't, my jaw nearly dropped when I read it
because it's about two sentences long.
So this is a law that's intended to kind of entirely
disrupt how we do voter registration
in Louisiana.
Turn it from a simple fill out a form process into a kind of complicated DMV-esque documentation
policy.
And yet there's nothing to the text of the law.
It seems to have been barely thought through.
All right.
Before I go to my panel, one more question about this very vague law.
What is your center going to be doing
in terms of next steps in order to combat this?
Yeah, so we represent, as you mentioned,
the League of Women Voters,
Power Coalition for Equity and Justice,
the NAACP and Vote,
the voice of the experienced in Louisiana.
And we're working with Southern Poverty Law Center
and Lawyers Committee on this litigation.
And so we filed the complaint.
It's now on the state to kind of respond
and explain itself and especially explain
how they're planning to implement this fake law.
But we're planning on following through
on all of our legal claims, both constitutional claims
but also claims under the very important
National Voter Registration Act,
which the Supreme Court has already said
that that law means that Louisiana has to accept
what's called the federal form,
which is a national voter registration form
that does not require documentary proof of citizenship.
All right, Dr. Malvaux, your question for Danielle.
Lifted up the students,
but I think it's also important to lift up the elders.
My mom died when she was 93.
She was from Mississippi.
We had to get her birth certificate for something.
Her name was spelled wrong.
Her race was listed as collared, as in collared greens.
We had a good time teasing her about being collared.
So obviously some illiterate person
had registered my mother's birth.
And it took us almost a year to get that straight.
We don't have a year with these midterm elections.
What kind of emergency measures
is your organization putting in
so that people don't have to go to court and
fight to make sure that they're eligible.
Thank you so much for telling that story.
It's just one of many stories that we hear about the individuals who would be affected
by these kinds of laws.
And so our clients are prepared to take this to court to get whatever relief is necessary
for upcoming elections
and to stay in this fight for exactly the reason you said.
It cannot be the case that individual voters all
have to go to court to prove their eligibility.
It cannot be that they have to wait months long backlogs
to get their birth certificate in order
to be able to exercise their fundamental right to vote. All right. Dr. Dabinga, question for Danielle.
Thank you so much, Danielle, for your work and your advocacy. My question is, what are
you hearing from people who may be more on the MAGA sides of things, you know, on the
Mike Johnson side of things? Is this an area of information where they're not even getting?
Or are they receiving it and not caring because they feel like they'll be okay?
Or are they starting to move towards your coalition as well to make sure that this
is something that does not affect them?
Yeah, thank you so much for the question.
I do think that there's a lot of misinformation out there.
I think that, you know, a big concern for myself and my organization
is that the Americans don't know a lot about all the safeguards
we already have in our election system.
And so when we have folks who should
be in positions of trust kind of undermining trust in elections,
it's natural that some Americans might
wonder about what changes do we need to make to our
elections.
But the fact is, I have the opportunity to work really closely with election officials
all the time and know the really complex processes that already go into securing our elections.
When you register to vote, you provide an identity number, that identity, you know,
a social security number, a driver's license number.
That's often matched up against a database
to show that you are who you say you are,
and that you are, you know, that I am Danielle Lang
from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
and that that matches other databases.
And I also have to affirm my citizenship,
and we know that these systems and safeguards
are working really well.
You know, one thing I am hearing, though,
from the American public
on for example, the SAVE legislation at the federal level
is that ordinary Americans might have first heard
a suggestion of, oh, proof of citizenship and say,
oh, that might be a good idea.
And then they hear the details and they hear about
how this might affect people they know,
married women, elders, students, their children. And they say, hey,
that doesn't really make any sense. We haven't been doing that. And why are these elected
officials trying to upend the system by which we access our elections? And I think that there
has really been popular support for this idea that we should not be making it harder to vote.
We should be making voting more accessible. And there are lots of ways that we can not be making it harder to vote. We should be making voting more accessible.
And there are lots of ways that we can modernize
our election systems, make them work better
and make them work better for voters.
And those are the types of solutions
that voters wanna see, I think of all political stripes.
All right, Representative Shannon.
Yes, well, thank you for your work.
I actually served six years
in the Georgia House of Representatives
and I served on the
Governmental Affairs Committee which dealt with election law.
So we would see plenty of these bills come up that were just meant to be voter suppression
bills that were sort of trying to lead people to believe that they were just trying to increase
election integrity.
But they were really just attempts to suppress the vote.
Hearing what you're saying about this bill, I mean, I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not. This sounds particularly egregious, especially with it just being
two sentences in the bill makes me kind of wonder if this bill is an attempt to pass it at the state level.
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We'll see what hurdles it goes through in reference to court fights so that they can really game out
the fight at the federal level to pass the same act because we do see that a lot of times. So is
that something that you all have thought about as you take on this lawsuit? And obviously I don't
know how the Louisiana courts work, but do you have any indication of when maybe your first time that you may go to court over this or what the
court fight might look like?
Yeah, thank you so much for the question.
So what I'll say is that this Louisiana bill is definitely not a standalone matter, right?
I have been working on issues around this new form of obstacles to voter registration
for some time.
I've been working on the issue in Arizona.
We saw Kansas try this before.
So we know this is coming from a playbook.
It's coming from a kind of known playbook.
It's also coming from a playbook that's already lost in court and yet they're trying it
again. And so it is definitely part of this broader strategy and we saw a number of other states
still considering these types of bills right now in their state houses. And I think there's this
kind of ecosystem between the federal legislation and state legislation. Yeah, some of it might be
the state legislation feeding the federal, of it might be the state legislation
feeding the federal, but it's also, you know,
by the House passing the SAVE Act,
they're sending a message to state legislatures,
hey, you should do this thing,
even if we can't get it passed in the Senate,
you should go about this at your state level.
And so we're definitely thinking about this
as part of a broader strategy to make it harder to vote and to make access to vote more difficult.
And as far as the kind of the timeline for the lawsuit, I think it's too early to tell.
Like I said, in the ordinary course, after you file a complaint, the next move is kind of for the state to respond and we'll be looking to them to do that and you know, looking at all of our options for the right timeline for this case.
And Danielle, before we go, I want to ask you, how can people get involved in your organization, especially down in Louisiana, to fight this good fight to make sure that voter suppression does not happen. Yeah, you can visit our website at campaignlegal.org and learn about this case and also all the other cases
we have fighting for the freedom to vote across the South and across the United States.
We have a very important lawsuit against an executive order issued by President Trump trying to upend various parts of
our election system, including touching on this issue
of documentary proof of citizenship.
And I'd also encourage folks to look at the websites
of our clients as well that are doing the really important
on the ground work in Louisiana.
All right, a very vague, vague loss.
So I'm sure more to come out of that.
Danielle, thank you so much for being with us tonight.
Thank you to all of you for the great questions.
Thank you. All right, stay with us tonight. Thank you to all of you for the great questions. Thank you.
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All right, Texas Congressman Al Green is trying to stop Trump,
like a lot of other people, right? The longtime Democrat is once again calling for President Trump to be impeached.
He filed new articles this week saying that flat out, Trump is unfit to occupy the Oval
Office.
You might remember, Green made headlines earlier this year when he was kicked out of Trump's
State of the Union.
The Congressman says Trump's behavior is authoritarian
and dangerous, accusing him of ignoring court rulings,
disrespecting the separation of powers,
and acting like the rules don't apply.
He is waiting for a full blown crisis.
His words, tanks rolling down the streets are not an option.
Now, not everyone is on board, all right?
But Green was recently censured by the House.
Even some Democrats voted against him.
But he says he would do it all again.
Dr. Malveaux, what are your thoughts about this impeachment?
I mean, what he is saying is true.
The letter of the law is not being followed.
Separation of the powers,
separation of all of these executive branch,
a lot of what's in the constitution,
just not being honored one amendment at a time.
Yeah, I appreciate Reverend Conch and Green so much
for his work, for his advocacy and for his audacity.
I'm happy that he's introducing
these articles of impeachment, but we have
to be honest. This is a foolhardy effort, but Congress is majority Republican. They
might cross a line on Medicaid. They might cross a line on substance. They're not going
to cross a line on impeachment, even though they know better. They know better, but they're
not going to know better. They know better, but they're not gonna do better. Well, we have to do our job, you know,
as African-American commentators,
African-American activists, artists who are activists.
Our job is to continue to lift the brother up.
It may be as a fool's errand
because we know we don't have the numbers,
but we can't let this nonsense go away.
We can't let people think that it's normal
for a person who's been elected president
of the United States to overlook the courts,
overlook the people, just do whatever he wants to do.
And he pretty much said, I'm gonna do what I wanna do.
And nobody's prepared to check him.
So bravo to Congressman Green for checking.
So Representative Shannon, I am hearing the same thing
that Dr. Melvaux is saying.
Listen, this probably won't happen.
So that people have to depend on themselves, create community,
do better, go out there, and fight for justice on your own.
But is there something else that we should all be doing at this time
because it seems as though, I'm not going to say nothing's being
done, but we certainly want more to be done and we're not seeing what is being done in the way
that we want. Sure, so there is a lot that can be done. I mean, I think you're right that, and Dr.
Malvo sort of said this too, which is that Congressman Green is taking the right approach.
What kind of frustrates me is that too often,
black seniors in particular who have the lived life experience
to know when something is about to get bad,
usually get cast aside as people who are blowing things up
and not to be listened to,
when that's just really not the case.
He's absolutely right in what he filed in these papers,
particularly the point where he hones in about that you,
we're not far from seeing tanks coming
down the street.
He's right.
I was talking in an interview last week
about how the new executive order that Trump signed
basically it says, and this is not a summary,
these are the words in the executive order.
It's calling for aggressive policing of communities.
It's calling for lawyers who work for the government
to do pro bono work, which means represent for free cops
who have been charged with misconduct,
talks about jailing more elected officials
who basically disagree with Trump,
even including those who wanna move forward with DEI.
So this is, so he's, you know,
Congressman Green is not blowing anything out of proportion.
This is like really what is in front of us. I would say what people can do is because we see that Democrats have
too often sort of sat back and said, oh, you know, everybody's blowing things out of proportion.
It's not that bad. What everybody can do is reach out to their elected official to say, listen,
I want you to take this seriously and you need to be following Congressman Green's lead. That is
the thing that's going to make a difference because at the end of the day,
elected officials worry about getting reelected
and many of them, particularly when they don't come
from an activist background,
are gonna see to wherever the most pressure is from.
So if they see, if their constituents are telling them,
you need to get behind Congressman Greene
and take all of this seriously,
and we believe that things are really at this level
that something must be done and we are in dire circumstances, then that is something that is going to give
Representative Green more energy, more fuel to really push this thing forward. Dr. Dabenga,
how does the sound of impeachment strike you? It sounds great. It sounds great, very, but in terms
of the real application of it,
how does it really sit with you?
Well, it's not going to happen,
but the fact of the matter is,
today's the 100th birthday of Malcolm X.
And this is a man who brought a case to the United Nations
to argue for the rights of black people in America.
I mean, he helped globalize the plight of our people
and connected us with an international community of people.
Did he believe in his heart
that he was gonna go to this trial and he was gonna win
and that everything was gonna change?
Probably not, but the effort matters,
which is why we still celebrate him today.
History is watching.
What's gonna happen 30, 40, 50 years from now
where our grandchildren or great grandchildren
or whoever, our great nieces or whatever
are reading these books and seeing and see nothing.
See no impeachment efforts were made,
no new voting efforts were made.
I believe honestly that what's going to happen
is that he's going to keep overstepping
and at the very least more Democrats are going to happen is that he's going to keep overstepping, and at the very least, more Democrats are going to join,
even if it's not a lot more, are going to join what he's doing.
And by the time we come to the midterms, there'll probably be a larger ground
swell of people calling for impeachment, even though it still won't happen under these Republicans.
But this is the time for Democrats to show spine. This is for them to show backbones.
So many of them are just focusing so much
on their local communities, which I get it,
all politics is local, but there are real things
that are happening in this country
and he's only expanding his dictatorial mentality even more.
People have to stand up, people have to speak up.
And at the end of the day, I'd be calling him out
if they didn't say something.
So I applaud him for doing that
and he needs to continue to do that so people can follow his example. Representative Shannon can we talk about the separation of
powers for one moment? I mean this is why we have the constitution but you get a supreme court ruling
nine zero it's ignored. How in your estimation do you think that is happening and is there anything
that you think might be going on behind closed doors maybe we don't know about you know out here
on these streets that's going on maybe something's being worked doors, maybe we don't know about, you know, out here on these streets that's going on.
Maybe something's being worked on
that maybe we don't know about in order to stop this
because this is just unprecedented all around.
Right, so, you know,
one other comment on Representative Green,
people can't disregard him.
He was the one, he doesn't get enough credit for it,
but he was the one who laid the foundation for impeachment
the first time Trump served.
And he did get impeached.
He got impeached twice.
And it was Representative Green who was the first person to realize the harm and say to
everybody, I'm filing impeachment papers.
So I wouldn't just chalk it up to, oh, this can't happen.
It's a drumbeat that you have to beat.
It's a conversation that you have to keep rolling, that you have to get more and more
people to understand why you're saying what you're saying as it relates to impeachment.
And you know, more folks than what you thought may jump on.
Trump's already having problems with the Republicans who are breaking ranks, even though we're trying
to pass this budget bill.
That was a fight.
The first time that they tried to do it, they couldn't even get it done.
Then they did get it done the second time, but hasn't cleared the Senate.
So to answer your second question, yeah, like I think with the
separation of powers and him just ignoring the Constitution, this is literally what is the
difference between having a democracy and having a dictatorship. It's very dangerous because I tell
people this all the time. When you have a set of rules that people, and we know that things are
not fair. There are many things, take the justice system for example, especially as it relates to
black folks. The rules are not often followed. But when you have somebody who is president who
is completely saying, I don't follow any of the rules, I am the final say so, the courts
don't matter and nothing else matters, which is essentially what he's doing when he just
decides to ignore court orders. What you have is if you don't have a system that people
are willing to adhere to,
to make decisions as a society, you know what comes next?
Making decisions by whoever has the most force
in the streets.
So I think that the issue here,
and this is why Representative Green is waving the flag now
to say, listen, something needs to be done,
is that you don't want to wait until you have, you know,
decisions being made by force in the streets because that is what breaks apart countries. So we don't need to wait until you have, you know, decisions being made by force in the streets, because
that is what breaks apart countries.
So we don't need to wait to that point.
Democrats don't need to wait to that point before they feel some urgency to do something.
Now is the time to be having conversations with constituents.
Now is the time for constituents to be having conversations with their elected officials
and for Democrats to be publicly getting behind Representative Greene and talking about how we're in such a dangerous place.
Because you may think only Democrats listen to those
who are in elected office if a Democrat is speaking,
but it's not true.
I mean, people even, just like we have to listen to people
that we don't agree with all day long.
And sometimes people realize what you may think
is a broken clock is right twice a day.
You got that right.
Dr. Dabenga, I wanna close this segment out with you.
Listen, before the president was elected,
I think that there were some things
that we've been seeing, we could go through the gamut
that people thought would never happen.
And I'm wondering your estimation,
what are some things to come
that you think could possibly happen
in terms of the extreme
that people need to open their eyes about
and not think, oh, that just happens
in some science fiction movie.
Yeah, I mean, people have to be mindful of the fact
that we are living in a dictatorship now.
And the fact of the matter is dictatorships across the globe,
they never had everybody under the thumb of the leader.
It was the people who were the dissenters. There
were people who were walking around just fine in Nazi Germany, who were walking around fine
in Rwanda and Congo and other places around the world. They're unaffected.
But people have to understand that it's just a matter of time before it comes to you. So
what I can envision happening when Representative Shannon was talking about that police order
earlier, the language that he was using in there was to unleash them, right? You know, to set them loose. And so
you also see that the DNI, Gabby Intelsi-Gabbert, you know, that she's having, trying to have
her team rework intelligence reports to get them to say what they want to say. Because
once you can put out an intelligence report that's saying we're under threat, we're under
invasion from any group, all the gloves are off.
I mean, he's actually looking at putting out executive orders
that can target nonprofits and call them terrorists.
So like the Boys and Girls Club
could be labeled a terrorist organization.
And again, once the language is there,
anything becomes possible.
So I envision detention,
we're already seeing that of American citizens.
I'm seeing people getting expelled from their communities,
from their homes.
We're seeing these things happening already
on a small scale.
They're just going to be enlarged.
And so really at the end of the day,
people are gonna have their incomes, you know,
targeted because he controls the IRS.
Like everything that happens overseas can happen.
And here's the last point I'll say,
and this is that Trump is doing all of this
and he has not fired a single shot yet.
People need to be careful because what he's doing
all of this now and what was happening with abductions
and things of immigrants and are like, it is violent.
Don't get me wrong.
But the bullets haven't started flying yet.
And he's just setting and prime tuning it up
for those things to start happening as well.
People should not be surprised if he starts seeing
blood in the streets, defying this man.
All right, all right.
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Now, a look at President Biden's deeply personal announcement.
He is battling menostatic prostate cancer, a serious diagnosis that means the cancer
has spread beyond the prostate.
This is the kind of news that stops you in your tracks, not because he's the president, but because so many of us know this fight all too well.
In the message to the nation, Biden said cancer touches us all. Like so many of you,
Jill and I have learned that we are the strongest in the broken places.
Thank you for lifting us up with love and support. And for black men, this moment hits
a little differently because they are the most at risk. Black men face the highest rates
of prostate cancer in the United States and are more likely to be diagnosed late and die
from it. So tonight we are raising awareness and talking about it.
To help us break this down and what this diagnosis means
and what every black man and their families should know,
we're joined by Dr. Leslie A. Dean,
a leading neurologist with Howard University's Cancer Center.
Dr. Dean, thank you for being here.
Thanks for the opportunity to join you tonight.
Absolutely.
Let's start with the president's diagnosis.
What this type of prostate cancer he has, the metastatic, what exactly does that mean
and why is the early screening so critical, especially in our community?
First and foremost, I would like to extend well wishes to the former president and his
family.
You know, I think he's lucky to have the support that he has
and also the support of the nation and the globe at a whole.
What metastatic prostate cancer means is that it has spread
outside of the prostate, either to local areas,
close to the prostate gland itself, to the lymph nodes,
or in the former president's case, to the bone.
That's very important because that means
that it is an advanced stage of disease.
And we talk about this advanced stage of disease
and we talk about black men,
the awareness that they should have in and around this.
They should be doing something different
than people of other races in terms of checking for this
and preventing this, that is the status
in terms of what they should be doing?
Yes, so black men need to screen earlier
than the general population.
And from an age perspective,
that is generally within the forties that it should start,
especially if there's a family histo
in a first degree relativ
or um a brother. You know
to know and I know that t
my family when questions
got prostate cancer, they
know, could I prevented t
is it that I did in my youth?
You know, they start tracking and what happened in their lives.
What's your question to that when you get that from people who say, could I have prevented
this?
Can I prevent it from happening again?
You know, if my PSA numbers go down?
So the important thing to know is that there aren't really any specific factors that we
can incorporate to prevent us from getting
prostate cancer. We have to live a generally healthy lifestyle. I think that's the most
important part. Try to minimize stress, increase exercise, watch our diets and eat healthy.
And all of those things will help to minimize the risk, but there isn't anything that we can hang our hats on
to actually prevent prostate cancer from occurring.
So I mentioned PSA, a number that I'm very familiar with
in terms of the terminology because people in my family,
but can you explain that and how you step a person
through the process of being checked, what that entails?
We need to let people know and remind
them. And also what this PSA number is. PSA stands for prostate specific antigen and this is a factor
that we find in the blood that is associated with the risk of having prostate cancer. So the higher the number, the higher the risk. Generally speaking,
a PSA number higher than four nanograms per ml is suspicious and concerning. But we have to
really focus in on what the patient's age is. So the younger you are, a PSA of four may actually
be very high for a 40-year-old. So we age adjust that PSA number down the younger you are.
And then we accept higher numbers as you get older.
But it's important to have a baseline
of what your PSA is in your 40s
so that that number can be tracked.
And if it is increasing at a rate that is not acceptable
then that needs to be investigated and evaluated further.
All right, before we go to the panel with questions,
the test itself, invasive.
People should just understand
that they have to go through the process
and you have to go through it
if you wanna save your life potentially.
Correct, so the PSA is a simple blood test
and it takes a discussion
with either your primary care physician or
your urologist to understand the nuances of prostate specific antigen testing in regards
to any risks that there may be from the downstream effect of the result of the test.
Sometimes we still do a digital rectal examination to examine the prostate. And if that's gonna be done,
basically takes three or four seconds,
uncomfortable, shouldn't be painful,
and is something that you would want
to consider having done.
Absolutely, definitely worth it.
All right, let me go to my panel.
Representative Shannon, your question.
Yes, thank you for being here.
Just have a very specific question.
I know for, you mentioned before that black men
should start getting screened in their 40s,
but can you be more specific as far as like
what age you personally recommend?
Cause I know for women with getting mammograms,
doctors will start telling you 38, 39,
get a baseline mammogram.
And then when you hit 40,
it's mandatory to every year get one.
So what's your recommendation to be a little more specific
about when in their 40s?
For black men, I recommend starting at age 40
or as close to that as you can get.
So if it's something that you hear about and you're 44,
go get screened.
If it's something that you've been monitoring
because of a family history of prostate cancer,
then go at 40 if you're in your 30s.
It doesn't really make a lot of,
it doesn't really have a lot of impact
to get tested in your 30s
because it's really unusual to detect prostate cancer
in men in their 30s.
All right, Dr. Dabinga.
Thank you so much for this information
that you're providing tonight.
One of the things
I've heard possibly about President Biden was that, because of his age, it is also possible
that the doctors chose not to do a test because of whatever reasons, medical reasons, I can't
understand.
My question is, we talk about the ages that people should start, but what about older
men who are out there who may feel like, oh, I haven't had any screenings.
I've been fine all of my life.
Now I'm 67, 71.
I don't really need to do this.
Is this something that you should continually be doing yearly, basically for the rest of
your life after the age of 40?
Generally speaking, we tend to stop screening at about age 74, according to the American
Urological Association guidelines.
There are some other guidelines, for example, by the American Cancer Society and the U.S.
Preventative Services Task Force that suggest stopping screening at an even younger age,
at around 69 or so.
The issue comes when you've had a PSA done annually
for the preceding 15 to 20 years, and it's been fine.
And now all of a sudden you turn 74.
I've found in my practice over the last two decades
that it's very difficult to suggest to a man, we're gonna stop this now,
particularly to a healthy, an otherwise healthy man.
We generally look at this disease in terms of people
having greater than a 10-year life expectancy.
So if the life expectancy is greater than 10 years,
I would advocate for continuing the screening process.
I think that things change in life when we develop different risk factors as we get older
potentially in terms of the immune system being weakened, et cetera, just as a matter of aging. And that can change and cause a prostate cancer
to pop up where it hasn't been evident before.
All right, Dr. Malbeau.
Especially for brothers of a certain age.
I want to ask you to unpack for me
the reluctance that so many black men have to even get
checked out at all.
And we see that.
I've got colleagues.
I've got a sibling.
He's a mom.
I'm not going to let anybody put their finger in my hind parts,
which as you know, it's a three-second process.
What can we do to ensure that black men not only are fully informed but
also fully encouraged to be screened? So that's a really good question, a really important question.
You're right that black men in particular have been reluctant to have rectal examinations.
I think that in seeing the physician, it is very important to establish a relationship
based on trust so that the individual understands the reasons for doing these tests.
Right now in my practice, I very rarely do erectile examination. I tend to
do an MRI first. I tend to do the blood test first, followed by an MRI because I think
we can get a lot more information based on a more advanced testing. There are many things
that imaging is going to see in the prostate gland that's just in a location that I
can't feel. And I think that this is, you know, really something that can be discussed over a few
visits as opposed to I'm going to do the rectal examination on your first visit when I don't know
you as a patient, etc. And I think that that's important in establishing that trust relationship
between the physician and the patient,
the individual being screened and tested.
And I really advocate for establishing that very early on.
All right, Dr. Leslie Dean,
thank you so much for being with us.
Great information and great seeing you this evening. Thanks so much, you too. All right, you are watching Dean, thank you so much for being with us. Great information and great seeing you this evening.
Thanks so much, you too.
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All right, Donald Trump's latest tax cut bill barely made it out of the House Budget Committee
by one vote after days of Republican infighting over spending cuts and Medicaid reforms.
The bill extends his 2017 tax cuts and adds new breaks for things like tips over time
and even car loans.
But here is the catch.
It could gut Medicaid slash food assistance and blow a $5 trillion hole in the national
debt over the next decade.
Some Republicans want even deeper cuts to social programs while others are nervous
about hurting vulnerable communities.
House Speaker Mike Johnson is now scrambling
to unify Republicans before a final vote.
They're calling it the one big, beautiful bill,
but critics say it's beautiful just for billionaires
and not the people, not everyone.
That was a da bingga.
Not surprised, I'm sure, about this latest,
but I can understand certainly why even Republicans
are a little bit scared about the havoc
that this could cause.
Yeah, it never ceases to amaze me,
the lengths that they will go to,
to protect those who are at the top.
And really, quite honestly, it's like, for what?
I mean, it's not like they're getting all of the benefits of
of what these billionaires have, right? I mean, he has what?
12, 13, I don't know, billionaires who are in his
cabinet. It's not, you know, these guys, but you don't
forget that the Congress people, I'm thinking more about the
constituents and a nonsense quotation about, you know, if
you can convince the poorest white man that he's better than
the best colored person, he won't realize you're picking his pocket.
Give him someone to empty his pocket,
and someone to look down on,
and he'll empty his pockets for you.
Like, how long will these guys at the bottom
deal, just tolerate this?
Are they gonna keep allowing their representatives
to screw them as long as they're getting rid of
so-called, you know, illegal aliens, right? You know, undocumented human beings? Are they gonna allow, as long as they're getting rid of so-called illegal aliens, undocumented human beings?
Are they going to allow, as long as they continue to end quote unquote woke policies, not realizing
that woke policies includes the resource assistant that they have in their schools,
the occupational therapist that their child needs to get their needs met because they don't have the
money through their insurance? How long are they going to tolerate this?
Because Black people, it's like, we're in this country.
We're looking to our first segment.
We're used to the struggle.
We've been born into it.
And we're not happy with it.
We continue to fight for our rights and what we deserve.
But these other folks, they keep going along, going along,
going along.
And I think that at the end of the day, misery loves company.
And I think that many of these constituents
are going to be happy to suffer as long as
we're suffering too.
And that's the real shame of the American experiment.
The American experiment.
Dr. Malvaux, I mean, when we're talking about gutting Medicaid, I don't understand.
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How folks in Congress cannot see
this would upend the whole system.
You know, just the way that America works,
it would disturb and trickle down
so many different types of ways
that we probably can't even imagine until it happens.
You know, but to understand this, Candace, we have to go back. So the fact that we've always had a bifurcated system, a bifurcated tax system that benefited some and not others, a bifurcated
economic system that benefited some and not others. So while everything that is being said here, and Owekongo breaks it down so well, but everything that's being said here is
correct, what is not pre-estate is the way that they have done much of this. So
this big beautiful tax bill gives money to wealthy people and takes it from poor
people. This big beautiful tax bill puts people
who are vulnerable, hope-wise,
puts them on the chopping block.
This big, beautiful bill takes away rights from workers,
from children, those things about education.
So what we have to look at, in my mind,
and I keep talking about this and I'm people sick of it,
but what is a long game here?
What is a long game?
This book that was elected to be president of the United
States, the backup, I don't know how many times,
he's backed by something.
He's not the evil.
Well, he is evil.
He's not the evil.
He is being backed by those who want to reassert
an oligarchical model of economic development
in these United States.
If you take education away, people don't know.
They don't know what they don't know, but they don't know.
And so you can tell them some story about DEI
and they believe it, not having looked at it.
And I could just go on and on, but this, so we can,
and I'm very, as many of my colleagues have,
we all mad at the orange man.
But he's not the bottom line.
He's the tip of the iceberg.
The bottom line is oligarchy.
What is this relationship with Russia?
Come on. Why can he not pack that up in Cuba The bottom line is, Oleg Bakh. What is his relationship with Russia?
Come on.
Why can he not pack down on Putin and every other US president hat?
Are we gonna see Trump Hotel?
We will.
In Russia?
In five minutes?
Swank resorts?
In Gaza?
Will you move the people away?
Again, I don't mean to sound like a paranoid lunatic,
but I do need to say, let's take a look at the big picture,
this so-called big, beautiful tax bill
of a continuation of a way to deal with predatory capitalism
to extract surplus value for working people,
many of whom are us.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. You know, Representative Shannon, I was speaking to someone today and we were talking about this, value for working people, many who are us.
Representative Shannon, I was speaking to someone today and we were talking about this.
And ultimately when you touch Medicaid,
when you touch food assistance,
when you touch programs that help people of color,
you really ultimately break down families
at the end of the day.
You can't really have a strong base
when you have families that because of the system,
it prevents them from having things like food and having good health care.
So all of it just kind of builds upon one another and eventually families get broken,
which is the crux of how we live and exist in this world in terms of how we get started.
Yeah, but I think the thing that's so dangerous about this bill that people need to understand
is when you let's just take the cuts for Medicaid, for example, when you hear about Medicaid
being cut, a lot of people tend to think that it is just people who are on Medicaid that
will be affected.
And you think that these cuts are only going to affect low income people.
That's not true.
Medicaid, people don't realize it, but their average community hospital, basically not
even say community hospital, just hospital, because that's, let's just keep the language plain.
The hospitals that you see basically can only exist
a lot of times because of Medicaid,
because it gets dollars from the state
that get matched at the federal level.
And so what that means is that your local hospital
that you see, if you were to get in a car accident
or something is literally only surviving
because of Medicaid and they don't get enough dollars
already, there have been at least for the last decade to get in a car accident or something is literally only surviving because of Medicaid and they don't get enough dollars already.
There have been at least for the last decade or so many reports about how many hospitals
are on the brink of going out of business because of Medicaid can't keep their doors
open because they're not getting enough money, not getting enough Medicaid funds to cover
all of their expenses.
And so when you're looking at a bill like this, this is something that will not only
affect the people who are the most vulnerable, but it will affect every single one of us on this panel. all of their expenses. And so when you're looking at a bill like this, this is something that will not only affect
the people who are the most vulnerable,
but it will affect every single one of us on this panel.
It will even affect Congress people.
Because at the end of the day,
unless you have some emergency medical team
ready to go at your beck and call
when something happens to you,
a personal concierge team,
you would likely need to go to a hospital.
So it's really not even about
just folks who are
on Medicaid. This affects all of us because hospitals serve entire communities. They serve
all of us and including the members of Congress. So that's why, you know, there was so much
contention about this bill because the members who voted on it know and understand that when you
touch Medicaid, you're touching a lot more than what people think when they hear about Medicaid,
which is just poor people or low income people
or people who are on Medicaid.
That's just, that's not even the whole game, it's not.
You know, and Representative, I have one question,
and this is just for you.
What is it that people do behind closed doors
to get past this fine, common ground,
meeting of the minds, to move past something like this
that would be so destructive in the world of politics.
How do you make that happen?
I think that it really will come down to people
reaching out to their elected officials.
And I know everybody's tired of hearing about reaching out
to your elected officials, but listen to this point.
Don't reach out to them to just say, vote no on a bill.
Reach out to them and let them know
that you understand what these cuts are about.
Because too many times times elected officials,
a lot of times will understand that the public
that understand how complicated this stuff is.
But when you let them know, it's like I said before,
putting that heat on elected officials,
they respond to that.
When you let them know that when they see
their local hospital closed cause of a bill you pass,
it's gonna be their ass.
Let them know that.
That is a type of stuff that a lot of times
so much damage gets done because elected officials know and this is not the way
that I thought when I was in office. But I heard it too many times in the
hallways elected officials believe and know that people don't understand how
all complicated this is. So they know that they can kind of use a scapegoat
later to say, Oh, it wasn't my actions of voting for this bill that did X, Y, Z.
No, this needs to be clear and people need to understand
that they need to understand what the ramifications are
and they need to let their elected officials know
in real time right now, before this advances any further
that you will be held accountable.
We do understand what the ramifications are
and you're not gonna be able to scapegoat it
on something else.
That's right, the power of the vote.
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But whatever show it's going to be, it's going to be good.
All right, let's go to the world of the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court has allowed the Trump administration
to revoke legal protections for 350,000 Venezuelans,
potentially making them vulnerable to deportation.
The court's order temporarily blocks a lower court ruling from San Francisco that had extended
temporary protected status, or TPS, for Venezuelans.
This was set to expire last month.
Now, the justices didn't give a reason, which is typical in emergency decisions, but TPS
allows individuals already in the US to live
and work legally if their home countries are considered
unsafe because of national disasters or conflict.
The administration has moved to end similar protections
for other groups, including 500,000 Haitians.
Dr. Dabinga, I want to start with you.
I mean, this tracks, I mean, what can we say? This tracks.
We can say that this is just the beginning. We can say that all the black folks in this country who had no problems
watching some of these people getting snatched off the street and kicked out, you know, to kill more
Abrego Garcia's of the world, you know, when they start removing protective status of other groups,
like we talked about with Haitians here,
hey, anybody on this panel can be a Haitian,
it can be a Haitian as far as ICE is concerned.
And again, Trump's ability to continually play
on the visions in this country is one of the reasons
why he's been so successful in his policies.
And again, as I said at the beginning of the show,
he's doing this voluntary deportations
or quote unquote deportations are happening
or people are going back to places like Honduras
and Columbia, some of them taking their US citizen children
with them, people they're actively trying
to flee the country so they don't end up in CICOT
in El Salvador, while at the same time,
because of great replacement theory,
he's bringing in white people from South Africa,
and who I haven't even been able to verify yet,
who are actually farmers in any way, shape or form.
This is what, I haven't heard any journalists
talk about who these guys are,
what they were doing in South Africa,
because really, since only like one white farmer
has actually been killed
and none of their land has been taken,
why would any white South African
actually leave their land to come here?
So that's just a story. But my point is, this is what he's doing to get more black and brown
people out. And the Supreme Court just gave him another opportunity for him to continue to do that.
Black folks, we're the Black Star Network, black folks, we got to wake up, we got to stick up for
our brown family members, our black family members, we're wake up. We gotta stick up for our brown family members,
our black family members, we're all in the same community.
They're not getting rid of people in Ireland,
of the Irish in New York, people of Irish descent.
They're not getting rid of people of German descent
in Arizona, like they're getting rid of us.
And it can stop if we wake up and fight back.
Dr. Malveaux, the Supreme Court, once again,
I mean, here's the thing.
No matter what they said, Trump was going to do what he wanted.
He would have figured out some way.
But I find it interesting that the Supreme Court did this,
in addition to the fact that here we are again.
And the point I was going to bring up
was what Dr. Dabinga says.
Here we are again talking about deporting people or making
them more vulnerable, 350,000, yet we are bringing in people from other countries. And when we talk
about Venezuela and what might be seen as safe, there might be some economic issue, that is a
country where we have honored them. But here we are. What is your take on it?
Here we are. What is your take on it?
Well, first of all, I wanted to concur fully with what Congo, regarding the South Africa
situation, it's absurd.
It is beyond absurd.
The people are being, the so-called people are taking their land.
Where do they get the land from in the first place?
That's all I've got.
Where do they get the land from?
They took it from black people.
And the constitution of South Africa is very mild in terms
of land refatiation.
We have to deal with that.
The Supreme Court is the Trump Supreme Court.
We know that.
Let's not, you know, he very carefully, and Mitch McConnell
very carefully denied President Obama that domination.
They denied him the process,
and then they backed it with these reprobates
who all lied under oath, let's be clear,
lied under oath about where they were coming from.
And so, now you're giving this man supreme authority.
You don't have to follow the Constitution. You don't have
to deal with the 14th Amendment. You can do what you want to do. I was hoping that the
Supreme Court, I mean, Rogers and Comey seemed to be more strict constructionists than the
little sexual predators. I won't call their names.
Y'all know who I mean.
But I was hoping, Roger said for me, seemed to be the Supreme Court head.
They seemed to need more strict constructionists.
Strict constructionists would say, go by the letter of the law.
But they also have banked the Kool-Aid by the pitcher, and they're willing to give this
president whatever he wants.
It does not bode well for the next two years, and certainly not for the next four.
And it really talks about the downward slide to totalitarianism that we're experiencing
right now. What we're experiencing is people
having no confidence in law.
And if I could just take a second,
we can talk about all the civil libertarian issues,
but we also have to talk about the economy at some level,
because guess what?
Nobody trusts us anymore.
We don't keep our word with our own people
and we're not keeping our word with ourselves.
And so when we have a deficit, a large deficit,
which is that problematic until people don't trust us.
And right now internationally, people don't trust us.
And my question would be why do you think that?
But you know, Representative Shannon,
the irony of all this is that people came here
because of war-torn countries and it was unsafe and economic depression. Now we might be sending people back.
I mean, the whole point of it was to keep them safe. That's why we are in this position.
But like Dr. Malvo said, you lose a lot of trust in America when you switch up on your word like
this. It makes you look like you're a liar.
Yeah, Dr. Malvo hit the nail on the head
talking about trust in a very specific way
that I'm gonna kind of elaborate on.
I'm not sure if this is what she meant,
but this is where I wanna take it,
which is that, you know, what Trump is doing now,
which essentially what they're doing
is going and getting every single person
who is not a citizen, who legally showed themselves to the United States government and said, listen,
I am here.
I'm a refugee.
I need status because I can't be in my home country.
They are people who are following the letter of the law.
And Trump is saying, even though you had legal status to be here, you are getting booted
out.
And so what that does is it goes back to trust.
And it also is the reason why we have had a very tough time
over the last decades or so trying to get an immigration
system that will work and that will stick.
Because under some presidents, you're
protected when they say come out of the shadows
and just show yourself and let the government know
that you are here and we can get you in a process
so you can have legal status. But then you get somebody like Trump elected and because you did show yourself
with the previous administration, now you're exactly who's being deported because guess what?
The government has your address. The people they're not able to find are the people who
never showed themselves to the government. So that goes to breaking trust, exactly what Dr. Malvo said.
And I think that, you know, it's also important
for people to really understand what time it is
because Trump enjoyed a lot of the Latino vote.
And at the time people were saying, okay,
well, he just wants to deport the people
who didn't do it right and who didn't have legal status.
No, now as Omekongo brought up
with Trump bringing in white South African immigrants,
you see now that this was all about race the entire time.
The only people who are getting put out of the country
are black and brown immigrants
and white immigrants are being imported in.
So it definitely goes back to one of those things of like,
it's like, hey, listen to black folks
who've been here forever and know what the deal is
and how the stuff works.
And Dr. Dabenga, I'm gonna close out this segment
with you, this sets precedent.
And the more he's able to do, the more precedent he has,
and he's able to do anything that he wants,
saying, well, I did it before,
that's how this government is going to work.
And he's not being stopped.
Terrible precedent though.
The same day that the folks arrived from South Africa, a family from Afghanistan got a notice
that they were having there.
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Temporary protective status removed,
and that they were going to have to leave
the country. And a lot of these people who came here from Afghanistan come from families of men
who helped the United States during what happened after 9-11. So the fact of the matter is that,
look, Candice, once this man got rid of a four-year-old cancer student, a child of cancer who was an American citizen,
all bets were off. All bets were off.
And one of the things that Stephen Miller said
a few weeks ago that really surprised me
was that he said that he is surprised
that he has not seen more lawsuits
and more pushback towards everything that they're doing.
And to me, that tells me that even though we see protests
and hear like more Americans are comfortable
with what he's doing with these racist policies,
then we may think.
And that's the reason why he's getting away with this.
If he was bringing more Asians in,
or people they'd be an up for.
If he was bringing more black people in,
they'd be an up for. He's actually bringing more black people in, they're being up for.
He's actually bringing in more white people
who are gonna compete.
If they're farmers,
they're gonna be compete for farming jobs.
They're gonna be competing with other Americans for jobs,
for housing, for schools.
But people really don't care that much
because he's bringing in and helping them.
And subconsciously, even some of these white liberals
Dr. King talked about, right? you know, are, they kind of feel like we've gone
a little bit too far with the DEI and the policies of inclusion and the like.
And so I think people are more low-key comfortable with this. And Trump knows this. He ran on
racism. He ran, he won on racism. And so he's low-key giving what a lot of people in this
country want, because if they didn't, they would be a lot louder.
And so there's not only shame on Trump,
but a shame on America as well.
He's just revealed us for who we are.
People are telling on themselves.
All right, we're certainly gonna be following that story
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The MAGA-driven Congress is close to cutting much-needed programs like the Supplemental
Nutrition Assistance Program, known as SNAP.
Ohio Congresswoman Chantelle Brown delivered an emotional plea against these proposed cuts.
Sharing on the program helped her family during challenging times in her childhood.
As I think about this from a personal place, my mother was on food assistance when I was in school.
My mother was on food assistance when I was in school.
And I think about when I grew up as a child with epilepsy, petite mal seizures,
having to rely on food assistance. To this day,
I hate cold cuts because I had so many bologna sandwiches growing up because that's all we could afford.
Bologna sandwiches, pancakes for dinner,
which I thought was a treat, but later learned,
that's all we could afford for dinner.
Because we depended on food stamps.
I had epilepsy, seizures.
My mother was afraid to go to work because she never knew when her daughter could have a seizure.
She did not drive. She was on public transportation.
That was the assistance that she needed to help us survive. To help us survive. She didn't
wake up wanting to be on food stamps. She didn't wake up wanting to have a
daughter who had unpredictable medical conditions that prevented her from
keeping a regular job. But thank God for those food stamps, thank God for those pancakes
for dinner, thank God for those syrup sandwiches, thank God for those toasted
cheese sandwiches that we got because we received the cheese to make toasted
cheese sandwiches that I grew up on because of food assistance. And now you
want to take things like that away from people who need them, who depend
on them, who are just trying to get by because of systemic, structural, institutional barriers
that have put many people in impoverished conditions that they did not decide to be a part of, but because
of the systems that we are still utilizing to oppress people are in place when we could
be giving them a helping hand.
But instead, we want to take money from poor people so we can give it to rich people.
Make that make sense.
Make it make sense.
People depend on this money.
Not so they can get rich.
Not so they can invest it.
Not so they can get a jet.
Not so they can invest it, not so they can get a jet, not so they can get a yacht,
so they can have a meal, so they can eat.
But we want to take it away from poor people and give it to rich people.
Let it sink in.
That's what we're doing.
We're talking about food, poor people, and hunger.
The House committee voted along party lines to advance legislation to the House Budget
Committee that would cut up to $300 billion from SNAP to help fund an upcoming tax and domestic policy bill.
Dr. Dabinga, and in passion speech,
certainly made a lot of sense.
I mean, it is the system that's in place
that's creating people who can't afford food in the first place.
You know, the inequality is built into this country.
You know, it's built into this country. You know, it's built into this country.
Anything that we've fought for in this country,
whether it's child labor laws, you know,
women being able to have the right to be in the workplace.
I mean, inequality has been built into this country
from the beginning.
And there are too many people who have a vested interest
in keeping it that way.
They don't want to compete.
So they want, you know, families like how she was talking about,
mother afraid to go to work
because of her child potentially having a seizure.
They want family, mother's not going to work
because they have to raise kids.
They wanna make sure that people
who may have various disabilities
can get the services that they need.
They have a vested interest in keeping people down.
It is evil, it's savage, it's barbaric.
And the sooner people understand this
and rally around people like Reverend Barber and the like,
we can start to make some change
in this society and in this country.
But so many people are conditioned to believe
that they're just supposed to suffer,
that a little more suffering
they feel like is not gonna hurt them.
We need a larger uprising.
We need more than the weekend demonstrations
that are happening across the country
to make people understand this,
because we shouldn't have,
we should have enough knowledge of history
to not have to hit rock bottom once again
before people decide to rise up.
Because by that time, it may be too late
as this man continues to consolidate his power.
And that's all he's doing right now
is consolidating his power, biding his time right now
so that they can make the larger moves
with these tax cuts and other things
that are gonna permanently cripple too many Americans
and basically destroy this country for years to come.
Representative Shannon, listen, party lines as expected,
this is why we are here.
What's your take on this and what could potentially happen?
Do you think that people will eventually come around in this?
You know, I'm hoping that this bill,
you know, although it's a budget,
so, you know, in the state of Georgia,
the one duty you have as a house member or a Senator
is to pass a budget.
It's like, that's the only thing that your actual job is.
If you don't do anything else, you do have to pass a budget. At the congressional level, I'm not sure of
all the things that they are required to by law to do within their duty. But I'm bringing
that up because I'm really hoping that this budget bill does not get cloture in the Senate.
I'm hoping that it does not see the light of day in the Senate. And because it's just
going to be so disastrous. The snap cuts, what I can tell you is that it really is just taking food out of the mouths
of people who literally this is their last leg of being able to sustain themselves.
And the really terrible thing about it is that Republicans always talk about entitlements,
which is the wrong thing to be calling these programs.
But they make it seem like we spend so much money on social safety nets in this country, and we don't.
More of our money is given to fund the military and tax cuts, which is what the president's
new budget is really the people who are winning in this are the wealthy getting tax cuts and
then more money on defense spending. And I really think that it's very short-sighted.
They also don't realize how this can be an issue
of national security.
I think that decisions like this will be the reasons,
not the only reason, but it'll be the reasons
why we won't win, for example, like this terror war
that Trump is doing with China,
because a lot of the countries that you're going up against
have a better social safety net.
So if something happens to their country,
their folks can go a lot longer,
they can hold out a lot longer as it results as you when you get into things like trade wars and
things like this, because they have consistent social safety nets. Here in America, well,
you have the freedom to be homeless if you lose your job, you have freedom to die from lack of
access to health care if you lose your job, and you have the freedom to, you know,
go hungry if, you know, snap gets cut.
And so it's like the purpose of tax dollars is supposed to be money that is being put
into a pot that will add to the betterment of the collective of society.
That's the purpose of tax dollars.
Giving our tax dollars to folks who,
to rich people so that they can have tax cuts
and overspending on military,
that is just not sustainable.
It's not sustainable and pretty soon
the bill is gonna come due.
You know what, Dr. Malvo,
what I've been seeing a lot of,
and this has happened before,
but it resonates more now,
is black women especially giving impassioned speech
about these things that matter to them
to try to get people to see the side of humanity
that they just don't understand
when you take cheese from someone.
It sounds so basic, but it translates
into somebody having a life.
And I think that that's been very important.
Even if the needle isn't moved,
I think it's very important to hear these stories
just like we heard Chantelle Brown.
So Chantelle Brown puts a face on it.
My mom was a social worker.
I remember back in the day,
people that she brought home
because they couldn't get their food stamps.
Now called SNAP.
And all kinds of excuses being made as to why people could not get their food stamps, now called SNAP. And all kinds of excuses being made as to why
people could not get their food stamps.
But then the small picture is drilling down
and putting faces on this misery.
And that's what it is, it's misery.
When I think about Malcolm X's mother,
because I'm just there,
and how she had to hustle after her husband was killed,
rather than lynched,
they said he committed suicide on the railroad track,
that's another story,
but looking at how she scrambled to try to feed her children
and then were institutionalized
because they said she could not feed her children
because they took away her food assistance.
Let's take it back a step guys
and talk a little bit about who benefits from low wage
workers.
See, our country is subsidizing the workers who work in the big balance stores and are
making the minimum wage.
The main states, you know, it's less than $8 an hour.
In some states, in nine states a bit more.
But guess what's happening?
So we're subsidizing oppression.
When we say you can get food stamps because you don't make enough money, how come you
don't make enough money?
Because people are not paying.
So we can look at this in terms of staff.
And I, for what they've done, and I'm hoping that at least three or four Republicans
grow a pair and that the Senate also does some closure,
but it's not just that, it's a bigger picture
how we're allowing workers to be exploited
and how we, all of us collectively,
are benefiting from that exploitation.
It's a frightening situation and there are very few,
there are people in city to city and state to state
who are standing up, but we need folks to stand up
far more nationally and globally to say,
it is not okay to exploit people.
Simple as that, we need to exploit people.
So low wages are essentially exploitation and cutting snap subsidizes, let me call one
name out, somebody will come get me, for Walmart, that's what they have these low wage workers.
These are punching above their weight. They're not getting their money. So we are subsidizing oppression.
The United States of America is subsidizing oppression.
So listen, Dr. Dabenga, I wanna close out
this evening on you.
We've had a theme tonight,
exploitation and low wages and deportation.
Do you have some good news that will leave us all
a little happier when we get out of our chairs tonight?
Well, I think the good news is that we need to be mindful
of the fact that look,
today's Malcolm X's 100 year birthday.
All right.
You know, and-
And there you go.
And you know, Dr. Malvaux has talked about his mom
and her history and the like.
This is a man that we get to celebrate.
We don't have to worry about the United States,
you know, creating any type of event for him,
you know, to call out for him to be celebrated.
He's ours.
They can't take anything away from us
as it relates to how we celebrate and love this man,
as well as Dr. Betty Shabazz as well,
you know, but it's his birthday today,
so, you know, talking about him more.
And the fact that a matter is when I think about him,
when I think about Betty Shabazz,
and I think about his parents and the like,
I always tell myself of everything we're going on
with dealing with right now,
we have been through worse as a people.
We have been through worse as a country.
We have been through worse. And if. We have been through worse. And
if our ancestors can fight and do what they did to get through what they had to go through,
we can get through this. If we stay organized, if we learn our history, if we stay united,
if we support each other, support Black Star Network, support our initiatives, just like
we opened with, you know, with the hurricane and everything like that. And so that keeps
me optimistic. What are so many And so that keeps me optimistic.
What are so many thoughts so that we could be here today?
What are we gonna do today so that 10 years,
15 years, 30 years, 50 years,
they're gonna say the work that other people on this panel
and all of those watching made it possible
for their lives to be better.
It's an exciting time for us that we should embrace.
All right, Dr. Dubeenga, thank you for that
and ending us on that note.
And Dr. Malbeau, Representative Shannon,
as always, good seeing you and having you.
Thank you, sis.
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