#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Economic Anxiety & 2024 Election, VP Harris Returns to White House, Trump's Sentencing Delayed

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

11.12.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Economic Anxiety & 2024 Election, VP Harris Returns to White House, Trump's Sentencing Delayed Democrats continue to Monday Morning Quarterback Vice President K...amala Harris' loss.  We'll look at why some blame economic anxiety.  Black Votes Matter Co-founder Cliff Albright is here to explain how that reason is just an excuse.  Vice President Kamala Harris was met with cheers when she returned to the White House.  New York Judge Juan Merchan agreed to delay the sentencing of Donald Trump in his hush-money case.  A Louisiana judge says the state's law mandating each classroom display the Ten Commandments is unconstitutional.  Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war.
Starting point is 00:01:12 This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We'll be right back. Folks, today is Tuesday, November 12, 2024, coming up on Rolling Mark Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network. Oh, wokeism, identity politics, economic anxiety. Democrats, a Monday morning quarterback, asked why they lost the presidency
Starting point is 00:02:26 in several U.S. Senate seats. I'll talk with Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, on how this is a desperate attempt by white Democrats to frankly throw black people under the bus. Vice President Kamala Harris returns to the White House and is greeted with enthusiastic applause by White House staffers. In New York, the judge in Donald Trump's hush money trial is delaying his sentencing for another couple of weeks. Also, a Louisiana judge says the state's law
Starting point is 00:02:57 mandating each class from display the Ten Commandments, well, it's unconstitutional. We'll talk about that and more. It's time to bring the funk. I'm Roland Martin Unfiltered. On the Black Star Network, let's unconstitutional. We'll talk about that and more. It's time to bring the funk on Rolling Mark Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Let's go. He's got whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And when it breaks, he's right on time. And it's rolling. Best believe he's knowing. Putting it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rolling It's Uncle Gro-Gro-Yah It's Rolling Martin
Starting point is 00:03:37 Rolling with rolling now He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best You know he's rolling, Martel Martel Well, you can always count on white Democrats to start complaining, and, oh, my God, this is what happened, and why we lost, and it's defund the police, it's wokeism, it's identity politics,
Starting point is 00:04:15 it's all of that stuff, even though none of that stuff Vice President Kamala Harris actually talked about. It's just whining and complaining. Here's James Carville just really upset, talking about, I mean, we told you all this identity crap. It's just awful. Listen to this. We have no legislative power.
Starting point is 00:04:37 We have no executive power. We have no judicial power. So when you're out of power, you're an opposition party. And go and tell all the people that are sending you and asking you for money, justify what you did, justify what you did wrong, and tell us what you're going to do different, because what you've done ain't worth a shit. Get your head around that. And all of the Washington-based Democrats farting around, going to wine and cheese parties and talking about how misogynistic they are. Get your ass out of Washington and go work on a 2026 campaign and do penance to make up for your goddamn arrogance and
Starting point is 00:05:20 stupidity. Well, we're going to say we told you so. We told you this identity shit was disaster. We told you to get out in front of public safety issues. You didn't. We told you to have an open process and demonstrate the magnificent and staggering and deep talent that exists in the modern Democrat Party. You didn't. We told you to differentiate yourself from Biden. You didn't. I hate to be some fucking know-it-all, but all of these things are part of the record. Yeah. All right, so not only that,
Starting point is 00:05:54 I saw this tweet earlier, and I had to comment on it, and my next guest also commented on it. Let me find it. So Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut. Okay, so he posted this. Of the 20 highest median income states, Democrats won 18 of them. Of the 20 lowest median income states, Democrats won three.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yes, race and gender play a big role in politics, but the hard truth is this. Democrats clearly aren't listening to the people we say we fight for. Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter. So, Cliff, also on Morning Joe, yesterday they read Maureen Dowd's column and they were talking about, they read her entire column, and her whole column was about identity politics, and Trump got a mandate.
Starting point is 00:07:00 His was interesting. The votes are still being tallied. President Joe Biden won by 4.4%. Trump is going to win by about 2%. Do you recall folks calling the mandate in 2020? No, they didn't. So it wasn't a mandate. Just because he won all seven battleground states, that's not a mandate. The numbers are the numbers.
Starting point is 00:07:27 But the thing that trips me out is, all of a sudden they're blaming identity politics. And here's the thing, Cliff. They never seem to admit that whiteness is identity politics. Maleness, white maleness is identity politics. Iteness, white maleness is identity politics. It seems that, oh, if it's black or women or Latino
Starting point is 00:07:51 or gay, oh, that's the only identity politics that exists. Yeah, you're exactly right, Roland. And as I said in my tweet, this country was founded on identity politics. There's never been an era that hasn't been defined by identity politics, by white identity politics, by white male identity. It was literally—identity politics is literally enshrined in the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Y'all said only white men, property owners, could vote. That's the original identity politics. And every era, every decade since then has been defined by that identity politics. And, Fat Cliff, here is Donald Trump touting identity politics today. Yes. And getting their money's worth.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Furthermore, I WILL ADVANCE A MEASURE TO HAVE THEM FIND THEIR OWN MONEY. I WILL NOT ONLY HAVE THEIR MONEY'S WORTH, BUT I WILL ADVANCE THEIR MONEY'S WORTH. I WILL NOT ONLY HAVE THEIR ENDOWMENTS TAXED, BUT THROUGH
Starting point is 00:09:01 BUDGET RECONCILIATION, I WILL ADVANCE A MEASURE TO HAVE THEM FIND THEIR OWN MONEY. I WILL NOT ONLY HAVE THEIR of equity will not only have their endowments taxed, but through budget reconciliation, I will advance a measure to have them fined up to the entire amount of their endowment. A portion of the seized funds will then be used as restitution for victims of these illegal and unjust policies, policies that hurt our country so badly. Colleges have gotten hundreds of billions of dollars from hardworking taxpayers. And now we are going to get this anti-American insanity out of our institutions once and for all. We are going to have real education in America. So Donald Trump is saying, white people, I'm coming to you with reparations.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Exactly. And that was written into everything that he just said is a part of Project 2025. Yep. You know, the Project 2025 that he said he didn't know anything about. But before the votes are even counted in this election, he's already rolling out the Project 2025 policies. And his transferring or transforming the Department of Justice and the Office of Civil Rights from something that investigates and deals with anti-Black racism, he is now redefining it as dealing with anti-white racism,
Starting point is 00:10:24 anti-white discrimination, which doesn't exist. But that's the identity politics. And that's—from Jim Crow through the Southern strategy, right, which was identity politics defined, to Ronald Reagan, to Patrick Cannon, all the way through this person, that's all they do is identity politics. In fact, even the economic anxiety argument, even the economic anxiety argument is really another form of identity politics, because when they talk about the working class and economic anxiety, they're only talking about the white working class, as if black folks ain't working class.
Starting point is 00:11:01 That's identity politics. It's all this country knows. And so now they say, oh, we need to get away from these things. We don't need to be talking about these things. And so we should be talking to the individual. Let's go to that
Starting point is 00:11:17 Chris Murphy tweet because he talks about, oh, how we're losing the folks at the bottom. Here's a slight problem here, Cliff. about how we're losing the folks at the bottom. Okay, here's a slight problem here, Cliff. If I looked up right now and I said, let's see, the 20 lowest medium income states. Let me just, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:42 because actually I tweeted this to Chris and I said, okay, you know what? Can you tell me exactly what those states are? And we looked at medium income by state, what we would realize. So let's see, the poorest states by medium income. Okay, so here we go. All right, y'all. Here are the poorest states by median income. Number one is Mississippi. Red state. Number two, West Virginia, red state. Number three, Arkansas, red state. So that's just three. I'm going to pull up the other ones.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Here's why I want to do that. So if we go by Chris Murphy's perspective, then Republican policies, if they were so amazing, if they were so great, if they spoke to the working class, then those wouldn't be the bottom three broken states in the union. It would be nirvana.
Starting point is 00:13:13 It would be amazing. It would be lovely economically. Folks would be flocking to Mississippi, West Virginia, and Arkansas to live and do business because it's so great. Those people, clearly, Cliff, are voting against their economic interest. Right. And what's so interesting is
Starting point is 00:13:39 you've got all these red states, and you listed them all out, or some of them out, and if these people are so economically anxious, you would think that they would vote out the people that have been running their states for decades, not for one or two years, but for decades. In fact, last year in Mississippi's election, you had a Democratic candidate that was just talking about economics, talking about getting rid of the tax on food, which Mississippi's is the highest, right? Talking about expanding Medicaid in their state, talking about those bread and butter issues that they're trying to convince us that these folks
Starting point is 00:14:16 are so economically anxious about. And he couldn't win. Because at the end of the day, in those states that Chris Murphy's talking about, the white folks there are okay with being poor, as long as the black folks are more poor, right? As long as they've got some other folks that they can look onto as being above them or pointing out and saying that they're the problem, they're okay with that. So this ain't about economic anxiety. Those states would look differently. In fact, Cliff, here's the bottom ten states. Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Louisiana,
Starting point is 00:14:53 Alabama, Oklahoma, South Carolina, New Mexico, South Dakota, Kentucky. Of those ten, only one is a blue state, which Vice President Kamala Harris won, which Democrats typically win. That is New Mexico. So I'm trying to understand what exactly is Senator Chris Murphy, is James Carville, is Maureen Dowd, is Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, all of these people who keep talking about Bernie, Senator Bernie Sanders.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I really want them to explain to me how they are going to talk to the people in nine of these 10 states to say, hey, you should be listening to Democrats. There's nothing to say because what Howard Dean said in 2004 still applies. The Republicans talked to these people about culture, about God, gays, and guns. Republicans ran a hundred and thirty five million dollars worth of ads about Vice President Kamala Harris and transgender surgeries for illegal immigrants in prison. Even though the policy came together under Donald Trump was he he was in a white office. He was he was in the Oval Office. I called the white office because historically has been the white office. He was in the Oval Office. I call it the white office because historically it has been the white office. But this is the reality. So I'm just
Starting point is 00:16:29 trying to understand what is the conversation that Democrats can have with all of these red states that continue to be broke, to be poor, to be illiterate, and have the worst health outcomes.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah. At the end of the day, we can't count on this media or even these Democratic elected officials, because I've said from the beginning that there's some Democrats that would be more comfortable losing elections than to actually have to win elections and to acknowledge a progressive black base,
Starting point is 00:17:05 right? But we can't count on the media, especially, to get this analysis right of this election any more than when there's a police shooting that you can count on the police department to do the investigation. The media... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This has kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
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Starting point is 00:19:27 And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. It's complicit in this. The media is complicit in the ways that they tore up Biden, only talked about his age, never talked about Trump's age, only talked bad about the economy, and then you wonder why people think that the economy was bad, when in fact it's the envy of the entire industrialized world. But all they did—and then now we're supposed to trust them to do this analysis, talk about economic anxiety. They can't do it, because to talk about a real analysis that really talks about the
Starting point is 00:20:38 issues of race and misogyny forces them to deal with themselves. And just like the police department is not going to investigate themselves that way, this media is not going to investigate themselves that way. So we can't count on them. So we got all these bad think pieces that are out there, just like I can't count on them even for these exit polls. Because I can't believe that the same people that tried to tell us for two years that black folks weren't going to show up, that black men weren't going to show up. And then we show up and we do at the same level as what we did with Biden, right? Even more arguably. And yet we're supposed to trust them to
Starting point is 00:21:18 say, oh, you know what? We were wrong about y'all. No, they're not going to do that. And so all of the stories that we're seeing are basically just to reaffirm the narratives that they had just spent two years trying to build up. Yeah, I mean, it amazes me. And I pulled up another one. And so I think these are the 20. So Mississippi Red, West Virginia red, Louisiana red, Arkansas red, that's four, Alabama red, that's five, New Mexico, Kentucky red, Oklahoma red, South Carolina red, Tennessee red, Missouri red, North Carolina red, Ohio red, Indiana red, Florida red. I'm absolutely confused. What is the conversation? And here's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Here's what I want to know. Okay, James Carville, you said, oh, this defund shit. Biden and Harris gave more money to the cops. They actually did more. I'm sorry. Do you recall hearing Biden or Harris talk about defund the police? I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that in any Senate race. Oh, so let's see here. See, they're latching on. Oh, these Democrats need to get out of these parties in D.C., how about you, James? How about you get out of your crypt?
Starting point is 00:22:48 How about you get out of your crypt and realize what's actually happening out here? How about you realize that no matter how much truthful information was shared, people decided, you know what? I like to lie. I saw the Scott Pelley 60 Minutes interview. I saw a clip, and this woman, well, Scott Pelley told her how the election was, he was talking to her about the election, and, well, I don't feel better. My weight just didn't go up.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Now, he's telling her, he's telling, in fact, here it is, listen to this. 7.30 we open, 7.30 to 10. Roz Warkeiser was a waitress 25 years ago. Now she runs the place. My mother used to always say, gotta vote Democrat. You know, they're for the poor people. You grew up in a Democratic household.
Starting point is 00:23:46 CATHERINE MCDONALD, Yes. JOHN YANG, But you just voted for Donald Trump. CATHERINE MCDONALD, Yes. JOHN YANG, Inflation is down by more than half. Interest rates are falling. Mortgage rates are falling. Wages are going up. Are you not feeling that?
Starting point is 00:23:59 CATHERINE MCDONALD, I don't feel it. No, I don't feel it. I don't feel it at all. Everybody I talk to, nobody's wages went up. But we I don't feel it. I don't feel it at all. Everybody I talked to, nobody's wages went up. But we had four years of this. I mean, four years. Gas was super high. Yes, it just went down now, but what
Starting point is 00:24:13 the past three and a half years it was up. Oh, okay. Alright. Okay. So, she said gas was up. Okay. But see, again, this is the folks who, the last four years it was up. Okay. But see, again, this is the folks who, the last four years, it was up. There was a thing called COVID in 2020.
Starting point is 00:24:33 There was a thing called COVID in 2021. And we were still impacted by COVID in 2022. So, you're not going to be, you're not going to be, you weren't going to be paying
Starting point is 00:24:48 a dollar and 50 for gas because people weren't going anywhere. So, like, you sit here and you go, what the hell are y'all talking about? You were coming out of COVID. There's a survey that was done recently
Starting point is 00:25:11 that shows that people who identified correctly objective statements about the nature of the economy, the nature of the country, basic issues like immigration, like people who are able to identify that immigration has actually gone down over the past year and a half. People who are able to identify that inflation is actually pretty low. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I got the graphic right here. Keep going. Yeah. Yeah. People that were able to identify these basic facts overwhelmingly voted for Kamala Harris. People who did not know these basic facts, they voted for Kamala Harris. People who did not know these basic facts, they voted for Trump, right? So there is a basic problem with just the nature of, like, facts and information. And that's a real problem, right? And I'll even say that some of
Starting point is 00:25:58 Democratic, progressive, whatever, that they've got to do better about the way that we deal with communications, right? It's not just the messaging, and it certainly isn't the policy, but it is about this ecosystem where conservatives control just a lot of different forms of communication that Democrats and progressives don't have. And then the mainstream media makes it worse, right, because what they do is they repeat the stuff that Trump is saying. And so there's a very basic problem that if people have accurate information then they will vote the right way it's
Starting point is 00:26:31 not even like the woman in the video said where she's like oh i'm not feeling it right it's one thing if you say well yeah i know that this is the fact that the economy is better i'm just not feeling it fine that's your reality i'm'm not asking you to whatever your lived experience, but you've got to recognize what the reality is overall. And most people voting for Trump simply are receiving different information and they live in a different
Starting point is 00:26:56 reality. But we also have to accept, Cliff, we also have to accept the fact that Donald Trump and Republicans lie. They lie with impunity. And Fox News and Conservative Talk Radio and Conservative Digital, they protect the lie. They advance the lie.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I mean, they literally push the lie. Here is somebody here talking about, and again, for all these people out here, oh my God, gas prices were high. They won't accept this fact. They won't accept the reality of what happened. But there is a reason. There is a very clear reason. First, why gas prices were low, why they then went high, and why we had inflation. Listen. Here's the accurate story that I've been telling forever. Saudi Arabia and Russia
Starting point is 00:27:54 hatched a plan to con Donald Trump into signing a huge production cut deal. And they actually did this before COVID. They were going to do this regardless of if COVID happened or not. Understand that Vladimir Putin and MBS are tight. They're very close friends. They're very close allies. Why in the world would they get in the middle of an oil price war if not but for to get Donald Trump to the table? So COVID happened. They started the oil price war. Oil went negative. That's the zero line. So that's how far below zero it was. And they got what they wanted. They got Donald Trump to come to the table. You see, they needed his blessing because he'd been threatening Saudi
Starting point is 00:28:35 Arabia, his entire presidency, if they didn't continue increasing oil production. But they knew if they showed him a little favor, they knew if they talked to him the right way, they could pretty much convince him to do anything because it's Donald Trump. So he agreed to the OPEC 2020 deal, a two-year production cut of 10%. So this was a 9.7 million barrel a day production cut, which at the time was almost as much as the entire U.S. production because U.S. production had fallen to 11 and a half or so million barrels a day. So just imagine almost wiping out all of the United States oil production on the global market, what that would do. That deal was signed in April of 2020 and it ended May 1st of 2022.
Starting point is 00:29:16 The problem with the deal was that it was a two-year cut. That was a terrible, terrible deal. This is what happened to gas prices from the beginning of the deal to the end of the deal. This is what happened to inflation in the United States, beginning of the deal, end of the deal. This is what happened to global inflation, beginning of the deal, end of the deal. And this is what happened by the end of the deal. Saudi Aramco became the most valuable company to ever exist. And somewhere in there was a deal for Jared Kushner to get $2 billion. That is the accurate and correct depiction of the events. Because half the podcasts in the country right now are getting it wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:57 So don't just share this. Share it with the right people. Those people running those podcasts. People in the media. That way they can deliver the correct information. Thanks. Here's Cliff. I mean, it happened.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yep. And that's the point that I was trying to get to with that graph, and you are absolutely right by saying that people will believe the lie. So the reason that you've got this false information and people being disconnected from reality is because at the end of the day, they don't want to hear what that white brother just said. When they can listen to the white racist, they don't just... I know a lot of cops,
Starting point is 00:30:38 and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.
Starting point is 00:31:01 From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, It's really, really, really bad. Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
Starting point is 00:31:55 This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing
Starting point is 00:32:16 is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Caramouch. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories I'm out. Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens
Starting point is 00:32:58 to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Tell them that the reason that they're in their situation is because of these Black folks, it's because of these immigrants, it's because of whatever, it's because of LGBT, all of that stuff. At the end of the day, it all comes back to the racism and the misogyny. It's the same way that people by white folks, poor white folks in Kentucky, hate Obamacare. They hate Obamacare, right? Don't talk to them about Obamacare. But talk to them about, what's it called, the Kentucky Connect or Commonweal, whatever they call it.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And they love it. They're like, don't touch my health care. I don't like Obama. He's a socialist. But don't touch my Kentucky whatever. Because as long as it's not attached to Obama, as long as it's not attached to Kamala, as long as it's not attached to some black woman, and they can instead associate with the white supremacists, then they're all good. And that's the hard truth that this country has never been ready to deal with.
Starting point is 00:34:18 The last thing I'm going to say on the identity politics thing, and you touched on it, and this is, again, the problem with the media and the problem with these weak Democrats is they let Trump go out there and define the conversation. Nobody was running on identity politics. Kamala didn't even talk about being the first black South Asian woman. She didn't talk. In fact, if not for
Starting point is 00:34:37 Trump questioning her blackness and then crazy old Dana Bash and whoever was asking her about it in an interview, there would have been no discussion of her identity. There would have been no discussion of somebody running as an LGBT or as a trans person, right? But they run on that. And then after the fact, Democrats want to accuse Kamala and others of running on,
Starting point is 00:35:02 in Carl Bill's example, of running on identity. There wasn't nobody running on identity politics except for Trump. But y'all take the bait and y'all let him define it and then you try to say this is what she was running on. And again, this isn't to say
Starting point is 00:35:17 that the campaign was perfect, right? We've got our own critiques of the campaign and the financing and how much investment was put on the ground and all that. Fine. But at the end of the day, that's not what defined this election. The same thing that defined this election is what defined the election of 2016, what almost defined the election of 2020. And so, you know, at the end of the day, all of these critiques of the campaign and Kamala
Starting point is 00:35:47 and economic anxiety, it's just more of the same foolishness that we heard after 2016. And then it causes you to then what? To shift to the right. And then that creates the self-fulfilling prophecy of now you run away from the policies that were actually successful because you're trying to be like these other folks and in running away, you've now made it more likely that more of the base is going to look at you like a bowl of crap because you are. Well, that's why I'm
Starting point is 00:36:16 still laughing. I was going back and forth with some people today. They kept talking about, oh, Bernie got sandbagged in 2016 and Taron Walker was tweeting, talking about, oh, Bernie got sandbagged in 2016, and Teron Walker was tweeting, talking about, I went to HBCU campuses, and he had tremendous audiences there, and I said, he couldn't get black votes.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Then Breonna Grace, she was like, oh, oh, the poll, she was polling better among black voters than Kamala. I said, baby, Gallego was supposed to win by 8 to 10 points in Arizona and barely won. I said, don't show me no polls, show me votes. And so, again, these people are stuck in this alternate universe where they think, oh, yeah, Bernie was super progressive. This is real clear. If Bernie Sanders were the nominee,
Starting point is 00:37:02 Bernie Sanders would have been... That would have been $100 million in ads calling him a communist, calling him a socialist, and it would have had, and here's the deal. They called Joe Biden that. See, and that's the thing that these Democrats like Carville and Chris Murphy don't understand. It doesn't matter what your voting record is.
Starting point is 00:37:22 They're going to call you a communist and a socialist. Tim Waltz was a gun-loving, hunting, military country Democrat, and they called him weak, impotent. They call him, every name in the book,
Starting point is 00:37:39 that's what they're going to do. And so the reality is what you can't do is allow it to go under. The Harris campaign, I was told this. They literally said, oh yeah, the transgender ads, they're not moving the needle. And I was like, I've been in Ohio, Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, Michigan, and I'm seeing eight to ten commercials in every game.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And what do we now know? That ad that features Charlamagne Tha God and DJ Envy, those ads, they spent $135 million. They said it moved 2.7 points. What did Donald Trump win by? 2.2 points. Every vote mattered. And so, the basic lesson, Cliff, What did Donald Trump win by? 2.2 points. Every vote mattered.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And so, the basic lesson, Cliff, when you allow the opposition to define you and you don't respond and define them, you will be the one giving concession speeches. Yeah. And, you know, just on that ad, you know, and again, mistakes may have been made. I would have dealt with that differently. Like, part of their response was by saying,
Starting point is 00:38:54 well, yeah, I did that, but Trump did it too, and that just wasn't landing correctly, right? And again, at the end of the day, it may not have mattered what she said about that issue, because again, you know, white America going to do what white America is going to do. But I would have dealt with it differently, you know, by trying to pivot and saying, at the end of the day, it's not trans people that are shooting up your schools. It's not trans people that are causing your prices to be high, your housing to be high.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It's not trans people that were denying you health care before we had Obamacare. It's not, you know, trans people doing all these things. And just reverse it and bring it back to the issue that you really want to talk about. But let me say this thing, because you mentioned Gallegos and, you know, the Senate. And there's a lot out there about why some of the Dem candidates did better than Kamala Harris did. And, you know, the challenging thing is this, and I've said this before, the math ain't math. It's not so much that Democratic voters were voting for those candidates and then not voting
Starting point is 00:40:00 for Kamala. The real disparity is in the fact that Trump got a whole bunch of hundreds of thousands of votes from people who only voted for him and evidently didn't vote for anything else on down ballot, right, which is a statistical anomaly, right? And I think when you look at that anomaly, when you look at the fact that this is a man who has cheated on everything in his entire life. Cheats on his wife, cheated in school, cheated on taxes,
Starting point is 00:40:32 cheated with his businesses, cheats on the golf course, cheats on everything in his life. But we are supposed to assume that in an election that's going to define his legal jeopardy, that he just decided, oh, I'm going to define his legal jeopardy, that he just decided, oh, I'm going to just
Starting point is 00:40:47 play it up straight, right? And then on top of that, you throw in the fact that what we know, again, this is objective reality, that machines were tampered with in Georgia and in other states by his campaign. It's a part of the Georgia prosecution.
Starting point is 00:41:04 At the end of the day, I'm not saying what definitely happened, but I'm saying what definitely needs to happen is that there needs to be some counts and some audits. And this is not sounding like MAGA of 2020, where they were just making up stuff out of nowhere. These are objective facts of things that existed in this election, not to mention 67 bomb threats, and the media has said nothing about it. But you would think that if there are 67 bomb threats that the FBI has linked to Russia, you would think that there should be some discussion about that. But it's been crickets from our media because they just want to move on to blaming black folks to talk about economic anxiety. So my point is this, that I believe, and this is a clip of Albright talking to my organization, that we've got to have an accounting, a complete accounting selection, because there are too
Starting point is 00:41:56 many things that just statistically speaking, we've never seen. And with this candidate, when you take something that you've never seen before and you mix it up in there with Elon Musk and Putin and everything else that we know, there's some questions that got to be asked. And that's not conspiracy theory. That's just common sense. All right. Cliff, all right. We appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot. All right. Folks, going to go to a break. We'll come back. My panel will weigh in on this. Folks, while you're watching, do this. Support this particular show, folks.
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Starting point is 00:43:20 With me, Dr. Greg Carr, here on the Black Star Network. Every week, we'll take a deeper dive into the world we're living in. Join the conversation only on the Black Star Network. Hi, I'm Dr. Jackie Hood-Martin, and I have a question for you. Ever feel as if your life is teetering and the weight and pressure of the world is consistently on your shoulders? Well, let me tell you, living a balanced life isn't easy. Join me each Tuesday on Blackstar Network for Balanced Life with Dr. Jackie. We'll laugh together, cry together, pull ourselves together. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time,
Starting point is 00:44:00 have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company
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Starting point is 00:45:12 In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban. Benny the Butcher.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now Cote. Marine Corps vet. MMA fighter. Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
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Starting point is 00:47:26 I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys guys. This country is getting increasingly racist
Starting point is 00:47:52 in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. Good, y'all. This is Doug E. Freshener watching my brother Roland Martin unfiltered as we go a little something like this. Hit it. It's real.
Starting point is 00:48:36 All right, y'all. Let's get into it with our panel. Dr. Mustafa Santay Ali, former senior advisor for environmental justice at the EPA. Randy Bryant, DEI disruptor, civil rights attorney, Joe Richardson. Joe's out of LA. All right, folks, let's get into it. So I got to start with you, Randy. And so listen to all these dems. Oh, my God, woke kids up, identity politics. They literally are parroting right-wing talking points. That wasn't even the focus of the campaign.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And so it's laughable. But the fact of the matter is they always hated that, and these are the same folk who won't even acknowledge whiteness as identity. Because whiteness to them is normal, and everything else is odd. And it is our... It should be our business to keep it quiet TAMARA KEITH, Because whiteness to them is normal, and everything else is odd. And it is our it should be our business to keep it quiet and cover it as much as we can,
Starting point is 00:49:30 as if we can cover our blackness or our womanness. But that's what they want, because they don't want it. It makes them feel more comfortable. It's quite disgusting to me the way they always talk about identity politics as if it's something that we use for sympathy or leverage, when, you know, as we have said, it's baked into America. America is about identity politics. The founders of this country separated us by race, specifically to make money and to justify using us and enslaving us to create us to be, to suggest that we are less than human beings. But when it's convenient for them, they want to say, it shouldn't be about race. Why does this always have to be about race?
Starting point is 00:50:16 When they designed everything to be about race. So that is what's so frustrating about it. They kind of give us a catch-22. We can't get out of it. They don't want us to talk about it. But that is all that they are, is about identity politics. Whiteness is Trump's brand. His brand is centered on whiteness and ensuring that white people stay in a power position in this country. That is what he ran on, if we're honest. That is his platform. That's why he really didn't have to talk about policies but so much. He could just have concepts and ideas
Starting point is 00:50:52 because really what people cared about and what they voted for was whiteness. You know, the thing that I'm laughing at right here, Mustafa, is that was a segment. That was a segment on MSNBC. And the segment was called White Rural Rage. And the segment talked about, and here was the headline, white rural rage looks at the Most Likely Group to Abandon
Starting point is 00:51:30 Democratic Norms. So this was an actual book on Morning Joe. So I'm laughing that Morning Joe, that Joe and Mika would sit here and read a Maureen Dowd column from beginning to end and act like they didn't have this conversation. And in fact, like, they literally had this whole discussion about Trump's hold over rural voters.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Just play a little bit of this, y'all. Let's see here. Here we go. Serve because he claimed he had bone spurs in his little feet. So why is it that Trump appeals so much to a group he couldn't be more different from? Joining us now, professor of political science at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, Tom Schaller, and journalist and opinion writer Paul Waldman. Their new book out tomorrow is entitled White Rural Rage, the Threat to American Democracy.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And Tom, we'll start with you. Why are white rural voters a threat to democracy at this point? You would think, as we pointed out, looking at Joe Biden's background and Donald Trump's, that the opposite would be true. I mean, we lay out the fourfold interconnected threat that white rural voters pose to the country. First of all—and we show 30 polls in national studies to demonstrate this, so we provide the receipts in chapter six—they're the most racist, xenophobic, anti-immigrant and
Starting point is 00:52:55 anti-gay geodemographic group in the country. Second, they're the most conspiracist group. QAnon support and subscribers, election denialism, COVID denialism and scientific skepticism, Obama birtherism. Third, anti-democratic sentiments. They don't believe in an independent press, free speech. They're most likely to say the president should be able to act unilaterally without any checks from Congress or the courts or the bureaucracy. They're also the most strongly white nationalist and white Christian nationalists. And fourth, they are most likely to excuse or justify violence as an acceptable alternative to peaceful public discourse.
Starting point is 00:53:28 So you mentioned a lot of. So Mustafa, is that identity politics? Well, it's definitely identity politics. And I guess they also read your book and decided to take some take the title and a number of other things. But I haven't been called to come on Morning Joe to talk about my book, White Fear. Right, exactly. Well, there's a reason for that, too. So let's unpack a little bit of this.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Yep. So you've got to understand the psychological manipulation that often goes on. So when you're dealing with folks who maybe are not inside of these beltways, the information that they're continually fed is negativity. It is always about somebody else is coming to take what little bit you already have, and you have to defend that. You got to also understand, it was months and months ago on this show, I talked about psyops. I brought it into our conversation because I started to see how people were utilizing the things that have been done in the military context, and they overlaid that into how do you
Starting point is 00:54:31 manipulate a population? You know, so what you do is you focus on influencing their beliefs and their values and their attitudes, and that's how you change the way a target audience sort of operates and how they see themselves and who the enemy is. Now, Malcolm Nance is somebody who worked in the intelligence field who's much deeper into this than I am. But if you watch how Trump sort of does what he does and you watch how his organization does what he does, and then if you overlay that and understand that you have Russia and
Starting point is 00:55:02 a number of other operatives who are outside of this country who are also playing a significant role, then you understand how the destabilization of America is going on and how you manipulate those and you use the levers to get people to always think that either something is always a conspiracy or somebody is against you. And that's how you get them riled up, and that's how you get them to vote against their own interests. And it always baffles me how people don't understand that, because whether it's our government or other governments have used it in the past to be able to get the things that they were looking for. So that's just one part of it. When you look at racism and misogyny, these are tools also that folks will use to be able to separate people,
Starting point is 00:55:47 to be able to move the way that you want to be able to move. So we've got to understand the game that is being played. And often we think about it just in its purest form. And this is a part of strategy. It is strategy that has been developed, utilized, and has been tested in the past and today. And often, we just don't bring that into our conversation. So it is not just about economics, right? Economics is a lever. When you can manipulate the way people see, even if something is moving in a positive direction, and if you continue to tell them that it is not, and you hear that message over and over and over again, you're going to start to believe that. It is all about perception. And the night that we were watching the election, I talked about, you know, I can't
Starting point is 00:56:29 remember if I said it's 80 or 90 percent of this game is about perception. Perception is manipulated by what you continue to feed into people's psyche. So we just got to understand actually what's going on. And I know that we're dealing with so many of the sort of just everyday issues. How do you make people not look at what the top economists are telling you, that you are in a strong economy and that it just takes a little while for that to be able to roll over into being able to make positive changes in your life, and then to go for somebody who is a failed businessman, who's somebody who has failed economic policy, somebody who tells you that they're going to put tariffs in place that is going to raise the price of food. So one of the things people said is, well, eggs are too high or bread is too high. If that's your
Starting point is 00:57:13 reality, I'm not saying that that's incorrect. But if you have somebody who is going to raise those prices, but yet you still vote for them, then you got to take a step back. And maybe it's because I have advanced degrees in psychology and that type of thing. But you got to ask yourself, what is going on in people's minds that allows them to be manipulated like this? Because it doesn't just happen by circumstance, by happenstance. There has to be intentionality in being able to move people and manipulate people and to get them to vote against their interests. Uh, this was a conversation, uh, Joe, that took place on, uh,
Starting point is 00:57:51 Stephanie Rule's show, The 11th Hour. Uh, and... But I want you to listen to Stephanie's response, which is the typical white journalist response. I mean, I actually mentioned that in White Fear, that part of the problem is that white journalists don't want to have this deep conversation because it's going to force them to confront themselves.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Eddie actually said it. Watch this. There's this sense, right, that whiten that whiteness is under threat, the demographic shifts, the country isn't what all of these racially ambiguous children on Cheerios commercials are confusing the hell out of me. A lot of people voted because their life's too damn expensive. And it was here and they voted. You're telling me, Stephanie, that all of these people who believe that their lives that bread is too high and eggs are too high, that they voted for a convicted fella, a guy who said we can grab the pea. I think that a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:56 They voted for this guy. I'm not defending it, but I think there are tons of people that don't pay attention to. And I'm not defending it. Don't pay attention to politics at all. But while we live in the most prosperous country in the world, people are saying, life's not fair. I'm not doing well. My son's still living in the basement. I can't seem to get a job. I don't like the status quo. I'm voting for something else. I love you to life, but I do not believe that. I cannot believe that. And the reason I think you believe it is because you don't want to believe that that's what's really motivating them.
Starting point is 00:59:34 It's always the case. People don't want to believe what the country actually is, because if they believe it, they're going to have to confront what's in them. I don't believe that. They voted for a crook, a person who they know is stealing from just doing everything to undermine the so-called country that they love. And then they're telling us the BS that it's economics. We know. You don't want to have to confront it because you don't want to say that's why they voted for him.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Joe, go ahead. I've said that before, that if you had a terrible disease but it was undiagnosed, would you still have the disease? You absolutely would have the disease. But what it also means is if it's undiagnosed, that means that you're not going to deal with it, right? And so the disease is going to take and have its effect. That's what we have now going on. We, you know, there are many people out there that, through their reporting, through their journalism, through their lives, through their prioritization of this or that and the other
Starting point is 01:00:41 thing, they seek to embrace whiteness. And whether they want to or not, and even if they're very well-intentioned and they don't realize it, they still have to be accountable for the fact that this is not going to be dealt with unless and until you recognize that the disease is there. And so until you do that, what you do is you accuse black people, who Democrats don't win elections without and usually win elections because of—you accuse them of identity politics. You accuse Kamala Harris of wokeism, even though she stayed about as far away from wokeism and from identity politics as she could possibly have done.
Starting point is 01:01:24 As a matter of fact, at the same time, she was damned if she did and damned if she didn't, from wokeism and from identity politics as she could possibly have done. As a matter of fact, at the same time, she was damned if she did and damned if she didn't, because a bunch of folks were like, she really should have solidified her base and stopped trying to cater to Republican moderates and should have, you know, should have, you know, supported these folks well and talked about their issues. So you've got two people both pointing at black folks, right, both pointing at Kamala Harris for different reasons, accusing her of things that she didn't do. And that helps you to change the subject. You know, if you don't like what's going on, that's what you normally do. You change the subjects. You change the subject to all of these things that she went out of her way to actually avoid during the campaign.
Starting point is 01:02:06 And meanwhile, you don't deal with the issue at hand, actually facing the notion that we have a problem because we are based, created, and we function on identity politics. But when they do it, it's OK. But when we do it, or when we're accused of doing it, we are the reason, therefore, that an entire election is lost. But the fact of the matter is, we're the reason why elections get won. We're the most consistent black women and then black men. We are the most consistent supporters of the Democratic Party. And if they're not careful and people buy too much of what James Carville is saying, it's been a long time since James Carville won in the elections, with all due respect to him. If we buy into that, if they buy into that so much, they buy into that so much,
Starting point is 01:03:00 maybe we can just, we might decide to pull back and then we'll see what the Democrats do then. And I'm not sure that they want that. Randy, I wrote this, the next agenda for white America. White fear isn't just revealed through the talking heads. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.
Starting point is 01:03:37 From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibbillion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.
Starting point is 01:04:31 This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Starting point is 01:04:54 We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.
Starting point is 01:05:08 It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family.
Starting point is 01:05:39 They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Conservative cable networks, The silence and indifference of liberal white America is just as destructive as any gunslinging Confederate flag-waving conservative. While the economic or societal implications of a more diverse America may not pose an immediate threat to the average white liberal, the force of white fear will certainly rear
Starting point is 01:06:23 its head when their liberal agenda feels challenged. Here's a perfect example. I had sent this book to a network president, but also a network host. The host called me, and the host said, I would love to get you on my show but my white producers don't like the title I have never said to any producer yeah don't book that person because I don't like the title of their book the white producers did not like the fact that I said white fear of the browning of book. The white producers did not like the fact that I said white fear of the browning of America
Starting point is 01:07:08 is making white folks lose their minds. I used the cover art of January 6. Y'all can pull up the white fear graphic. I purposely used the photo of January 6 because here's a white man with his arms outstretched. And what this symbolized to me is all this is ours. Why were they angry on that day? Because Donald Trump kept saying that he was cheated
Starting point is 01:07:32 in Atlanta, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and Detroit. And so the reality is that we are in this space right now because, again, white media does not want to have a real honest conversation. All of these, Scott Pelley going to Pennsylvania, CNN going to talk to Latino voters in Atlanta. Here's the challenge. I would love to see ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC. We know Fox News not going to do it
Starting point is 01:08:14 because they ain't got no problem talking to the racists. I would love to see these networks send people. Take that list Chris Murphy said. We only won three of the lowest median states okay go to those states and say
Starting point is 01:08:32 I'm curious you voted for Donald Trump yeah I did are you in the Affordable Care Act yes I am Trump wants to get rid of that so do Republicans Are you in the Affordable Care Act? Yes, I am. Trump wants to get rid of that. So do Republicans.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Are you hopeful that with his tax cuts, companies are going to put more money into the pockets of workers than their own? Oh, yeah, yeah, Scott. I absolutely want that. But do you realize that when he gave me the last tax cut, they used it for stock buybacks? Do you own stock? No, Scott, I don't own stock.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Okay. Are you aware that... Please tell me about the education in your state. Oh, we got an awful education system. Your state ranks 47th, 48th, 49th, or 50th in the country. Are you aware that Donald Trump wants to get rid of the Department of Education? No, I wasn't aware of that. So please tell me.
Starting point is 01:09:35 You want your wages to go up. You want better health care. You want a better education system and you've voted for U.S. senators and president who hasn't improved any of that what are you doing you notice Randy not a single network will do that right the the primary reason that I became the DEI disruptor honestly was because you know, you know, I'm traveling, I'm working with all these major companies. Of course, mainly there are white people who are hiring me that are in charge. And they were very comfortable when we talked about DEI, what that meant to them, honestly, was LGBTQIA and women, because that's where they were comfortable. They really do not want you to
Starting point is 01:10:22 talk about blackness in companies, in the government. They do not want to in media. They don't want to confront Blackness. They don't want to confront our situation in America. They don't want to talk about the history, why we are where we are. And so they avoid it altogether. So the media is not going to do that. The second problem is, and, you know, I always feel like the universe puts me in the right places, left your studio after the election, caught a, you know, like 1.30 in the morning,
Starting point is 01:10:50 caught a plane the next day to go to Alabama to attend Tuskegee's homecoming, and I'm up here in Buc-ee's, you know, the big, I don't know what you would call that thing, but it's like a gas station, convenience store, everything, Walmart. And there, it's rural. And there are a lot of white people in there. And they have on these shirts. Like, if you don't like Trump, then someone's... They're like these shirts that would be somewhat controversial. And I needed to be there because it helped me to understand how Trump pulled it off again. And what we must say that Trump has done a great job of doing is that he creates this
Starting point is 01:11:25 idea of it's us against them. It is a war. And so these people just want their team to win. It is as basic for them as a football game. I'm telling you, they are not thinking about policies. They are not thinking about the economy. They don't care about the Department of Education, the school system. They just want to win. and they want to win their whiteness. And like we said, I mean, they want whiteness. Whiteness is more important to them than poverty. And they are fine to be poor as long as they are seen as more powerful than Black people. And so that's the frustrating thing, is because even if we were to say, well, what about this and what about that, I don't even think they're listening,
Starting point is 01:12:10 because Trump has done a really brilliant job, if I'm one thing I have to give him, of making people not even think logically. These people aren't, unfortunately. They're not researching. They're not, they don't know the policies. They have no idea, really. They're seeing the headlines on Fox News, and they're believing it. Whatever they say, whatever tagline they come up with, and they're rolling with that. And all they want to do is win. But when winning, as we all know, makes them lose and keeps them in the position or going to make them in a position worse than they are today. But they don't see it. He has, you know, Trump has elevated whiteness, you know, brought it back in the way that it was seen, which we thought we'd escaped a little bit,
Starting point is 01:12:56 not much. We were making progress. But he has brought that back. And they have bought it completely. And that's all they care about is winning and hanging on to their absolute whiteness. And so, no, they don't want to talk about white fear. The media doesn't want to talk about it because they are white too. Right. And one last thing, of course, because of what I do, I have a lot of white women who come into my comments and they're talking, and they are so comfortable talking about sexism and misogyny. And that is why, you know, Kamala did not win. But the minute I bring up race, they really are uncomfortable with that. They want to say, no, that wasn't it. They will say, what about Barack Obama? And I said, why are you so comfortable
Starting point is 01:13:42 looking at sexism and misogyny? But when it comes to race, and I said, if you want, because, you know, Black women have decided we're tired, we're not going to do anything. If you really want to join forces with Black women, you will have to acknowledge our position and what being Black is for us in this country. We're not gonna just ride with you in sisterhood because of the sexism and misogynoir. They want this whole sisterhood and sister movement, but they have to see what it really is for us. So, no, I would say it's a very rare white person who is comfortable dealing with the true issue and history of race in America. Absolutely. So, uh so I just love
Starting point is 01:14:25 all of these different takes and they're trying to come up with, oh, no, focus on this, focus on that. When they did those things, Biden and Harris literally did those things. Now, you could say
Starting point is 01:14:34 they didn't talk about them enough, but they actually did them. So let's see what they say when Trump does it. Got to go to break. We come back more on... Okay, there we go. More on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network
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Starting point is 01:16:46 Hey, yo, what's up? It's Mr. Dalvin right here. What's up? This is KC. Sitting here representing the J-O-D-E-C-I-D-A-S, Jodeci. Right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks, Vice President Kamala Harris returned to the White House today and was greeted with enthusiastic cheers. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Going low, going low. Got your low. Camera crew in the love. Camera. Camera. Hold it. Thank you all very much. I'm so grateful to be with you. So let's get back to work because we still have work to get done. I'm sending you all my love and thanks.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Thank you, everybody. Always difficult when you lose a campaign, but there you have the Vice President being very gracious and saying, we gotta get back to work, Joe. Yeah, and saying, we got to get back to work. Joe? Yeah. I mean, we have to get back to work and there's a couple months left.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And so you really run it out. I would like to think that as she goes along, the vice president will become more and more encouraged and emboldened by what she accomplished. She was set up to do basically the impossible, and she did a doggone good job of it. She didn't make any of the mistakes that Hillary Clinton did, but she still found herself in a situation where I believe that she did everything that she could. Sure, you can argue this or that. You could do this differently. You could do that differently. But she ran hard, and she reminded us of what's possible. And sometimes we have to have perspective when we don't win an election, and we think it's a
Starting point is 01:19:32 crucial election. Everyone is. And we feel a certain type of way about it. We have to remind ourselves of how far we've come. And she has shown us how far that we've come. She was where she needed to be. The party put her in a position. Maybe the party didn't do everything that it could. Or on the back end, there's some finger pointing that shouldn't be going on, but that's par for the course. But I'm glad that she did what she did. I'm glad she ran it the way that she ran it. She shouldn't have any regrets that way. And hopefully, we'll be able to move forward. And hopefully, she'll be able to move forward, because she doesn't have to be done in politics
Starting point is 01:20:06 if she doesn't want to be. And I'd like to think that her best contributions are still ahead. Randy? I-I feel exactly the same. I have definitely been thinking about her, and I just want her to know that she still created, uh, such joy and hope for millions of Americans. And that she was able
Starting point is 01:20:29 to do that in what she had 116 days or something like that is quite remarkable. And she still is the vice president of this country as a Black woman. And so she is to be celebrated and looked up to. And yeah, I'm just incredibly proud of her. And so she is to be celebrated. And looked up to. And yeah. I'm just incredibly proud of her. And I hope that she feels that. And knows that. Mustafa.
Starting point is 01:20:53 I know a lot of cops. And they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.
Starting point is 01:21:18 From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott.
Starting point is 01:22:04 And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
Starting point is 01:22:17 It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
Starting point is 01:22:37 NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does.
Starting point is 01:22:49 It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent,
Starting point is 01:23:24 like he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. What Dr. King said, the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice. I mean, the things that we saw her be able to accomplish in 100 days is something that
Starting point is 01:23:53 would have took many other individuals a considerable longer time to actually build infrastructure, to be able to get the message out there, to be able to raise the funds that are necessary to be able to compete, so forth and so on. So what it did was it showed her brilliance and resilience. She reminds me of both Fannie Lou Hamer and Rosa Parks and Ida B. Wells and Shirley Chisholm. And I'm sure if Shirley was still with us, she would tell her, you know, how thankful she is for getting us that much closer to that final goal. So she just took the baton, took it a little bit further, and there will be someone else who will come.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Another sister will come, and they will help to make it across the finish line. So excellent job, and we'll continue to fight on. Indeed, indeed, folks. So you go on, and so if the Senate needs to be focused on confirming as many of the federal judicial picks as they can. That, to me, is critically important. And also locking down some of the other nominations and getting a lot of that stuff done. So hopefully you'll see President Biden, as well as Vice President Harris, actually doing that. Folks, the judge overseeing Donald Trump's New York criminal trial had delayed a key ruling on Tuesday that whether the president's elect's conviction
Starting point is 01:25:08 should be set aside. Trump's team wants the case dismissed, and the prosecution says it needs time to evaluate the next steps now that Trump has been reelected. The court has granted them a week's delay to provide their position. Trump's sentencing was scheduled for November 26th, but that has also been put on hold.
Starting point is 01:25:23 A jury convicted him in May on 2034 felony counts related to hush money payments made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. Here's what I don't understand, Joe. Okay? He was convicted before the election. Him being elected ain't got a damn thing to do with actually what happened.
Starting point is 01:25:44 And this idea that because he's now been elected, you get to set aside the conviction, that's actually, that is absolutely illogical. There is a, there was a state representative in Texas who was convicted, who went to jail while still being a state rep. What am I missing here? Yeah, you know, it shouldn't make a difference, right?
Starting point is 01:26:10 First of all, it's a state case, right? And the feds don't have jurisdiction, so he doesn't have the ability to pardon himself, right? So nothing like that is going to happen, right? And this is a conviction. The horse is already out of the barn, as it were. This is a conviction. He, you already out of the barn, as it were. This is a conviction. He may appeal it, et cetera, but normally you're going to appeal it after the sentence,
Starting point is 01:26:37 right? And so really, because it's a conviction and he's already convicted and it happened before he was elected, that should be running out. Now, of course, it's a practical matter with the appeal and all these other things. This could go on for years. But that being said, there's still the matter of sentencing him because he has been convicted. And maybe we're in another space where the judges or whoever else is just worried about how it's going to look, the fact that you have a guy that you've elected president that has been convicted of a crime and you possibly sentence him. Yeah, he's a convicted criminal. That's what you do. You know, it's not the jury's fault that we're here. It's not the prosecutor's fault that we're here.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Other than the fact that the prosecutor exercises discretion to bring a case where they believe that they could get a conviction. And guess what? They got a conviction. Quit undermining. You know, this is another way, whether they want to admit it or not, where we undermine who we are and what we're looking at. Yes, we elected a guy that's been convicted of 34 charges. And he should be sentenced just like anybody else would. Okay? And so, yeah, it should be convicted. He has been convicted and should be sentenced.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And let that run through its course and see where it goes. But it's a state case. He doesn't have jurisdiction over it. He can't pardon himself. And there you are. So it should be happening still. I just don't get, Mustafa, how this
Starting point is 01:27:55 DOJ memo is not in the Constitution. It's not a law. It impacts a state case. It doesn't matter if he was elected. He, what the hell is the point of having etched in stone above the Supreme Court equal justice under law if that's a lie? Exactly. That's the same thing I was just thinking about. Because you send a message across the country that certain people are above the law. So does it stop it being president if you're a vice president and you violate the law,
Starting point is 01:28:29 or if you're a senator? So, you know, folks pay attention to these types of things. And it's incredibly important for us to make sure that there is justice inside of justice, if I can say it that way. But we know that privilege, and you can put whatever defining words you want in front of that, whether it is wealthy privilege or white privilege or whatever it is, but it comes down to privilege, being able to say that, yeah, you did the crime, but you don't have to do the time. And we've got to change that dynamic because it just sends the wrong message, not only to folks inside of our country, but it sends a message also across the planet about what does democracy look like and what does justice look like inside of our country, but it sends a message also across the planet
Starting point is 01:29:05 about what does democracy look like and what does justice look like inside of that democracy. There literally is nothing, Randy, nothing that says, oh, if you were convicted of a crime and then you got elected, oh, we can just throw the charges out. We can just throw them out.
Starting point is 01:29:24 The reality is, the judge could sentence him to probation The sentencing happens before the inauguration This is bullshit and also the Georgia case That's a state case. It does not matter that he is elected It does not matter that case should be. It does not matter. That case should be adjudicated even though he's been elected. Well, nothing like this was brought up, because I believe that most of us,
Starting point is 01:29:55 when we were dreaming about America, we did not think that we would have a president-elect that was also a felon. I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. So they're scrambling now trying to figure out what to do in this ridiculous situation that we have found ourselves in. I would think that we would hold our leader to the highest of standards. We certainly did. People like President Barack Obama, If he had had an overdue library book, you know it would have been a major issue.
Starting point is 01:30:28 I believe, honestly, that one of the reasons that Trump decided to run again, I think it was against to help him with these cases, so he could get essentially immunity, because I believe there was far more that he could fall down under and be accused of because he's a criminal, right? And so it is quite disgusting. It will be interesting to see how they will try to figure this out and deal with it because it's an embarrassment to us in front of the entire world that we're trying to figure out what to do with our president-elect as he faces his felonies. I mean, what? I mean, I swear.
Starting point is 01:31:10 I swear. And if y'all want to know, if y'all want to see a sign of sheer stupidity, and if you want to see how nonsensical the next four years is about to be, this dumbass just announced, yeah, dumbass just announced
Starting point is 01:31:30 that he's nominating Fox News host Peter Hegseth as his secretary of defense. No words. It's a joke. I mean, it's a very deadly joke, right? That is a position where you need to have someone who has an extreme amount of experience in that space. So we often laugh at some of these choices that are being made. In many instances, these are life and death situations with the people that they're putting in place.
Starting point is 01:32:15 And it's not a laughing matter, even though it is laughable, but it's not a laughing matter because it places us in danger in relationship to all the challenges that are going on across the planet right now. You know, there are a number of locations that are teetering on war. So we need to make sure that we have individuals who are well-versed in what needs to happen in that space. When you put individuals as secretary of state, and of course, there are just some names that, you know, a name that is up there now. You need to have individuals who know what they're doing, not just because they kissed the ring. Now, we understand we are dealing
Starting point is 01:32:50 with an individual who does not necessarily care about expertise, even though he used to say that in relationship to business. But when it comes to government, he doesn't seem to have that same need. It is more about your loyalty. When you put somebody in place at the Environmental Protection Agency who has never worked on environmental issues, then you put our most vulnerable communities in danger. When you do these things around education, you put the future of young people in danger. When you put an individual or supposedly going to put an individual in front of what's going on in our healthcare space, you put people's lives in danger. So, yes, it's comical when you see the lack of attention
Starting point is 01:33:31 and understanding the expertise that's needed. That's one side of the equation. The other side of the equation is how really real this is because of the impacts that will be felt by individuals, especially vulnerable communities. But in totality, everyone should be paying attention and should be speaking out and really pushing, even though I don't know if it will do any good, for them to actually put people in place who know what they're doing. I don't know. Who wants to comment? You know, I've really, I told myself that I was going to try to block some of this out. But as I've seen the people that he wants to put in place to run this country, I must be honest that I'm quite terrified. You know, I don't know if people saw Mark Rubio's comments about, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:25 what was going to happen, you know, his position in Gaza and deportation and then his, who's the czar that he's going to put in charge of the mass deportations that are going to happen, which are somewhat unrealistic as far as just even the cost that it's going to be, you know. And then, you know, his announcement about, you know about DEI today, of course, has me spinning, where he is just essentially saying that... When I heard essentially what he said is that white people are going to get reparations for the discrimination they have faced. Man, I mean, that...
Starting point is 01:35:03 Joe? Yeah, I mean, that— Joe? Yeah, I mean, you know, this is crazy. This is butt backwards, as some would say. And you cannot do this this way and not have it be felt, not have there be ramifications, not have there be consequences related to it. And so what I would hope is that the folks that voted Trump in and that seem to have supported this return to foolishness, and which will be foolishness 2.0, without, you know, the Supreme Court weighing in and saying, no, actually, you aren't immune from anything that you do, even if it's a crime, given the decisions that have happened, given them
Starting point is 01:35:52 taking, them winning the battleground states as a mandate, even though he won by less than half of what Biden won by. You're going to have to own what he ends up doing, because he's going to mess some things up. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough for regular people. And a lot of the people that voted for him are going to find themselves, because they're not rich, they're going to find themselves directly affected. The assumption and the bet that they made is that somehow, someway, regardless of what he does, America will continue to be whatever it is that they want it to be, what makes them feel more secure, what makes them feel better. Like I was saying last week, their hope is that the grace, which is what it is, it's not because of everything great we did and us getting it right,
Starting point is 01:36:37 was the grace, that the grace would continue. Well, they better be right because if they have, because if it runs out, we got a serious problem. Listen, we, y'all get ready for the loonies. And I'm just telling y'all, but this is what happens when people elect stupid people. They pick stupid
Starting point is 01:37:01 people. Bring in the clowns. And that's exactly what we're dealing with. We're dealing with really stupid people. Bring in the clowns. And that's exactly what we're dealing with. We're dealing with really stupid people. Let's go to a break. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 01:37:59 I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:38:27 I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate
Starting point is 01:38:44 choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette.
Starting point is 01:39:06 MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two
Starting point is 01:39:20 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like, he's like my best friend.
Starting point is 01:39:52 At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene, a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence. On that soil, you will not be back. White people are losing their damn lives.
Starting point is 01:40:20 There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America,
Starting point is 01:40:54 there's going to be more of this. There's all the Proud Boys guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. Hi, I'm Dr. Jackie Hood-Martin, and I have a question for you. Ever feel as if your life is teetering and the weight and pressure of the world is consistently on your shoulders? Well, let me tell you, living a balanced life isn't easy.
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Starting point is 01:42:12 Join the conversation only on the Black Star Network. Bruce Smith, creator and executive producer of The Proud Family, Louder and Prouder. You're watching Roland Martin, until then. Thank you. FOLKS, DONOVAN CARVALHO HAS BEEN MISSING FROM HIS ORANGE CALIFORNIA HOME SINCE JULY 30TH. THE 16-YEAR-OLD IS 5 FEET 6 INCHES TALL, WEIGHS 130 POUNDS WITH BLACK HAIR AND BROWN EYES. Donovan Carvalho has been missing from his Orange, California home since July 30th. The 16-year-old is 5 feet 6 inches tall, weighs 130 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes. Anyone with information about Donovan should call the Orange County, California Sheriff's Office at 714-647-7000. 714-647-7000. All right, y'all. Well, the craziest in Louisiana
Starting point is 01:43:45 have had their unconstitutional law written unconstitutional. So, after Jeff Landry, the MAGA Attorney General, was elected, they voted to force every school to place the Ten Commandments in
Starting point is 01:44:01 every classroom in the state. Now, forget the fact Louisiana has one of the most horrible education systems. They decided that, you know what, we're going to just force every school to display the Ten Commandments. Federal judge said, no, that ain't going to work.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Said that Louisiana officials cannot enforce HB 71. They also must notify the schools that it is unconstitutional. The 177-page ruling, of course, is going to be appealed by Attorney General Liz Morell.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Check this out. Jeff Landry, the governor, says, oh, he can't wait to be sued. Well, guess what? You got sued, and they claim they're going to appeal. Just this, Joe, is it people need to understand really what the goal here is. Republicans want to create a theocracy.
Starting point is 01:44:57 They want funding for religious schools. They want this to happen and they want this to be white Christian nationalism. That's what this is all about. This is why they do things that are specifically against the Constitution and specifically against established Supreme Court precedent. This was dealt with decades ago, separation of church and state. Same kind of situation, similar facts dealt with that way. But you're going to see a lot of this. You're going to see a lot of them, based on their worldview, bringing cases that are totally unconstitutional, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:45:35 But, hell, who can blame them? When you know who the Supreme Court is, you want some things to be re-litigated or reconsidered that haven't been for a while. And meanwhile, back at the ranch, you rally your base, you rally your folks, you're doing the things that you're supposed to do in their eyes. And you might even win one or two of them. But this is a clear example of something that shouldn't be brought, because the separation of church and state is fundamental. And there is a Supreme Court case that's on point related to this issue. But, again, this is the beginning of, you're going to see four years of this. You're going to see a lot of this bringing things based on worldview, disregard the Constitution,
Starting point is 01:46:17 disregard any of that, because what they believe is that, in the judiciary, largely appointed by Trump, they will find people that will go along with them related to that. And to the extent that there are people that aren't going along with them, they will use that in their continued culture war and culture battle to get rid of the people, the things, and maybe even, God forbid, the institutions that don't seem to go along with it. To Joe's point, Randy, go to my iPad. This is the NOLA.com. Louisiana is the first state to require public schools to post the Ten Commandments in more than 40 years after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down
Starting point is 01:46:58 a similar Kentucky law in 1980. In its ruling, the Gravelists said the new law is, quote, legally indistinguishable from Stone v. Graham, the one the high court struck down. Yeah, Randy, they want this to go back, and they think, oh, 6-3 majority, we got some religious zealots like Sam Alito, like Amy Coney Barrett, like Clarence Thomas.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Yo, we might win. Right. Even though they know that, you know, that is not what we have decided for this country a long time ago, they are going to just be throwing things at the wall because guess what? They may stick. They have a Supreme Court that heavily favors them. I'm sure that they're even planning to get two more justices, you know, during his tenure.
Starting point is 01:47:41 So, yeah, and they want it to be a society that is really not thinking for ourselves anymore, but we are following the way they see the world. That's Christian, that's white. You know, it takes me back to the days where every morning I had to get up and pledge allegiance to the flag, you know, and that is, I believe that's what they want us to get back to. They are, when they say take America back, they were not playing. That's what they want us to get back to. When they say take America back, they were not playing. That's what they meant. Mustafa's going to be more of this, a lot more. Without a doubt.
Starting point is 01:48:14 I mean, it's part of the strategy. You can't hate the game, right? They've been very clear about what they wanted to do, how they were going to do it, and people still refuse to believe them. So they will raise more money off of this for their fundraising. They will feed their base, which keeps everything whipped up. And they will also use these things as bouncing balls so that you're not paying attention to the fact that they haven't been able to address many of the issues that people said that they were voting for, whether it is the prices of food in the supermarket or gas prices or a number of other things. So
Starting point is 01:48:50 they'll have you paying attention to these things over on the right-hand side while they're not doing anything to address what they said they were going to do. And you want to talk about, again, how stupid these people are. So they've been making a big deal about this on social media, because when Fox Sports did their broadcast on a carrier, a national anthem was being played, and this was Michael Strahan. So they have been attacking Strahan, angry and upset. But here's what I find to be real interesting.
Starting point is 01:49:26 So while they are attacking Strahan, here was a video of Donald Trump while the national anthem was being played. Hmm. He's over here waving. He's over here dancing.
Starting point is 01:49:42 He's over here speaking to people, all this sort of stuff. I'm sorry, is his hand over his heart? No, it's not. Oh, I know some of y'all might say, well, that's a video at Mar-a-Lago. Okay. Here's the White House. So this is where I just fundamentally will say, MAGA, y'all can kiss our collective ass.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Because this is sheer stupidity. Jay Glazer posted this tweet. He said, I've just seen the criticism of Michael Strahan. Let me tell you this. I don't know if I have a friend who is more proud of his military roots than Michael. Growing up on an Army base, constantly talking about what he learned from his dad, Major General Strahan, and how his time there shaped him. I heard it constantly still do.
Starting point is 01:50:36 But also, with no fanfare, I personally saw him donate thousands of dollars of clothes to veterans, including many homeless veterans, as well as clothes for veterans to go on job interviews. I know these days people want to be angry fast, but maybe first, how is this for a novel idea? Ask him if he's protesting something. When you protest, you want people to know, don't you? He was not. Just got caught up in how beautiful the whole moment was during the anthem and didn't think
Starting point is 01:51:01 about it. Ask the dude before forming an angry mob, but also made me find out all he's done for our veterans over the years. See, this is just stupid. And I'm sorry, there's no requirement that you have to put your hand over your heart. That's just the dumb things people do. You can stand there at attention
Starting point is 01:51:20 or the national anthem is playing. Oh, you know what? You can sit the hell down because you know what? You can sit the hell down. Because you know what? The First Amendment comes first. I'm just so sick of these assholes who whine and complain about everything and say nothing when Trump don't have his hand over his heart.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Randy, go ahead. I promise you they wouldn't have said anything had it been a different former football player. They want Black people to comply. They become upset, just like with Kaepernick, although Kaepernick had a real protest. But the biggest issue is you are not complying, and they want us to comply and to feel as if they are in control of us. That's the issue. It's not because these are the same. I mean, we have watched during these rallies how they will wrap themselves in the American flag, wear bikinis of the American flag, but then they want to act as if they have
Starting point is 01:52:17 such high standards of, you know, this patriotism and things you should and should not do. We have all been to games where they are not, many of them are not putting their hands over their hearts and things like that. The issue is wanting us, going back to what you said about white fear, is to ensure that Black people are in check. Mustafa.
Starting point is 01:52:42 I mean, I don't know what you really mean. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
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Starting point is 01:54:02 This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding
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Starting point is 01:55:10 We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like, he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,
Starting point is 01:55:32 and the Ad Council. What can I say about some of this ridiculousness that goes on? As Randy said, I've been to plenty of football games where people don't want to put the beer down to put their hand over their heart, and they don't. So, you know, we continue to allow folks to create these chaotic situations by bringing forward things that have not as much relevance to some of the real significant issues that we have going on
Starting point is 01:55:55 inside of our country. And as long as we allow them to continue to do it, they will do it, because they get benefit out of it, because they want to play with democracy. You know, they don't really care about what democracy is and its fullness and the justice that's supposed to be a part of that process. They just want the faux democracy when it's convenient and when it looks good and not the hard work that's underneath of it that has to be done to make it become a reality. So I'm not surprised. But at the same time, you know, we've got to continue to do the work that's necessary to make sure that we don't allow these types of things to take root in ground that should not be fertile. Or, Joe, they can also look at this photo, too.
Starting point is 01:56:42 You won't hear them whining about that one, huh? Yeah, I mean, hey, listen, you know, it's, you know, it makes you speechless because there is such a double standard as it pertains to white folks in general, and Donald Trump in particular. He is purposely irreverent, disrespectful, narcissistic. There's many more adjectives that I can put in there. And it shows up in ways. I mean, as it pertains to how many things has he done that should be objectively offensive as it pertains to the military, as it pertains to how many things has he done that should be objectively offensive as it pertains to the military, as it pertains to honoring families, you know, and these other things. And, you know, I had somebody tell me today, well, you know, one thing about Donald Trump, you kind of know who he is. You kind of know who he is. Well, if he's an ass, is that good?
Starting point is 01:57:43 Is that a good look? Okay. I know he's ass. I know he's a convicted felon. I know he's someone that doesn't tell the truth. Are we better for that? And so, you know, it's an interesting thing to see it kind of play out. But we'll, let's see what happens and what they're saying about that, as his policy set in because of who he is. It reminds you of the story where, you know, somebody takes care of a snake, and the snake ends up biting him. And the person says, well, why did you bite me?
Starting point is 01:58:19 I took care of you. He said, well, you knew you was a snake when you got with me. So, you know, it's interesting to see what we're doing. We expect it to be something different than what it actually is. And so I guess we'll see how we end up feeling about that. Absolutely. Folks, a federal grand jury has indicted a Kentucky lieutenant from the Federal Bureau of Prisons for civil rights violations. Zachary Toney, who worked in the U.S. Penitentiary, McCreary and Pine Knot, is accused of using unlawful force against an individual and falsifying records to obstruct an investigation. According to the indictment, Toney allegedly kicked and struck a handcuffed victim repeatedly, causing bodily harm. He then lied about it.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Well, that's no shock. They always lie in those reports. Omitting the use of force and claiming no injuries took place, Tony also instructed correction officers to exclude observations of his actions from their reports if convicted. He could face up to 10 years in prison for deprivation of rights, up to 20 years for each count related to falsification of records and witness tampering. And so don't be surprised
Starting point is 01:59:28 at all, Joe, if we don't see these type of prosecutions under a Trump Department of Justice. Listen, it's in my notes. These are going away. All right? These are going away. You're going to see that
Starting point is 01:59:44 less. You're going to see that less. You're going to see lying guys who actually want to prosecute the bad guys being told which bad guys they can prosecute and which ones they can't, or being told that this is where you go, or being replaced if they don't do that. And so I saw it just as that. I saw it as a last gasp of trying to bring about justice in a situation where this guy clearly needs to be prosecuted based on what he said, what he did, what he instructed other officers that witnessed the incident to do in terms of leaving certain things out of their reports, et cetera. He is A1, example A1 of somebody that needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And so you add that along with one of the things that are promised in Project 2025, and that is getting rid of consent decrees entirely. And what that means is that police, bad police, will be allowed to run roughshod over people. These departments will not be held to account.
Starting point is 02:00:48 And folks, even that are in the departments that are trying to do the right thing and have them go the right way. This is the one area, in an irony, where they seem to be OK with unions, because police unions are the ones that will the power. And they'll rise up. This is what happened in Minneapolis. They'll rise up against the chief, even if the chief is trying to do what's right. And so that will be allowed to continue, proliferate, unmitigated and undealt with. And so it's going to be interesting. But that was my exact thought is that, well, we aren't going to see too many more of these. I got I got to run this by y'all. So the folks at Uncommitted, you know, they gave,
Starting point is 02:01:27 they were highly critical of Vice President Kamala Harris, President Joe Biden, and then, of course, they, you know, of course, told folks don't vote for them in Michigan. So they've released this post-election statement calling for... I'm looking at this here. So they're calling for President Biden. They said,
Starting point is 02:01:55 Today our message is clear. This moment requires more than resilience. It demands decisive action. The Biden-Harris administration must put an end to the flow of weapons, the fuel of this cycle of violence, and it goes on and on and on. Now, they turned their comments off. I'm sorry, Mustafa. Go holler at Trump.
Starting point is 02:02:13 Go tell all those folks in Dearborn, Michigan, who sucked up to Trump, who kissed his ass, who voted for him. Matter of fact, go talk to Jill Stein. I mean, you're right. It's just amazing. You know, I put all this hope in people and assuming that we have these remarkable brains
Starting point is 02:02:38 that we're going to use and we make, you know, educated, calculated decisions about what would be best for our lives. And when you have individuals who have folks who have been very clear about what they won't do, and you still give them your vote, or you call yourself removing yourself from the process, knowing that that is the same thing as giving your vote, then it's just mind boggling. I can't tell you how many people have called me and said, you know, in retrospect, I wish I had done X. Well, you can wish that you had done X, but you made a choice to either for Trump or you made a vote, made a choice to remove yourself from the electoral process. And there are, you know, there are going to be
Starting point is 02:03:26 outcomes that are going to be detrimental to the folks who you said you cared about and who you were trying to advocate for. You could have had an administration that would at least sat down and listened to you, and then you could have negotiated with them for some of the things that you wanted. But now you have an administration that is very clear that the things that you have asked for, they have no interest in. And if you push too hard, they will arrest you. If you're out in the streets marching and protesting like many of us have done over the years, there is a strong chance that you will be met by force. I'm not positive, but I think there's a strong chance.
Starting point is 02:03:58 So, you know, you can't have buyer's remorse now. You made a decision, and now all of us have to live with the decisions that we've made. This is the one I love the most here, Randy. This was an article. The mood in Dearborn is a complex mix of disbelief and a wary curiosity. Trump came to Dearborn and made a lot of promises. He said, adding that residents he has spoken to are wondering what Trump will do for Palestinians. LOI thinks the reality is obvious. It's clear as day that he's playing us. I think
Starting point is 02:04:33 he's going to target us. That's what he's going to do. He's going to target our families and it's going to hurt. So I think we're about to find out. Yeah, Randy, you're about to find out because you're fucked, you're about to find out because you're fucked around. Yeah, exactly. I was gonna say they fucked around
Starting point is 02:04:50 and now they're gonna find out. And they're gonna find out swiftly. And, you know, people try... Look, we tried to tell you. I mean, you know, we tried our best to tell you. And Trump told you. I mean, this is the man that I think the first executive order or one of the first he did it, his last his last, you know, was the Muslim ban. I mean, he has been very clear about who he is. People just did not want to believe him. And they wanted to justify
Starting point is 02:05:13 their misogyny and their racism and say, oh, it's because of this issue and that issue. But they did not believe what who Trump told him he was. I mean, he's, he's, to me, he's been clear. So I don't understand the surprise. And now, of course, you're immediately seeing this remorse from all different identity groups as they see what this world is going to look like for them going forward, at least for the next four years. GOV. Yeah, again, just like I said, you know, people are assuming that this America will continue being this great America, whatever it is that they want it to be. But somebody's going to get hurt under this thing. And I believe that the Palestinians, you know, I think that the Palestinians, I don't think
Starting point is 02:06:08 that there's much public sentiment at all that's going to weigh any amount at all, any measurable amount in that administration. So as bad as they feel like they've done over the last four years, it certainly doesn't get better. I don't think there's any question that it gets better, that it will get better. It's going to get worse. I think it's going to get a whole lot worse. So we're going to see a lot of these stories y'all happening over the next few months
Starting point is 02:06:40 and I dare say four years. We're going to roll this every time we see one of these stories. How many of y'all have seen the of the woman whining and complaining how her family has cut her off for Thanksgiving? I mean, she was shedding a lot of orange tears and just really upset. Let me see if I can just, give me just a second, I can pull this up. So give me, my heart was just warmed when I saw this because I really don't give a damn.
Starting point is 02:07:58 And I really enjoyed seeing all her tears by how her family has disowned her and she don't know what to do. And y'all, let me tell you something. Man, this video here, they lit that thing up on TikTok. It went to Homegirls' account and she just got just lit.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Man, where is this video? Where is it? Have anyone, y'all see, have y'all caught any of these pretty good videos from these folks? Because I, me personally, I've been cracking up last. I saw the one about
Starting point is 02:08:41 Hernandez. I can't remember his first name. And he voted for Trump proudly. And he had most of the neighborhoods, the Trump neighborhood, they have their Trump signs out there. And his kids went to play with the neighborhood kids and the neighborhood kids told him that they didn't want to play with him, that them and that, you know, you're Mexicans and back to your country, and you don't need to be here and get out. And so, Mr. Hernandez has been crying, and he's so upset, and he hates it, and he wished he hadn't voted for Trump. And that has been a very popular video that has gone quite viral. But he's literally on there crying,
Starting point is 02:09:21 because it's your kids, and the kids came back crying. They said, oh, they won't play with me. I mean, you hate for the kids to be hurt. But he really felt like he was doing something by voting for Trump. So yeah, I've seen that one. Oh, here it is, y'all. I had to find it.
Starting point is 02:09:35 OK, this, y'all, is awesome. Watch this here. I'm not crying happy tears. I'm not going to be apologetic for being excited because if it was the other way around, all of the Kamala supporters would celebrate. I want to say that first. I'm very relieved because I voted what I believe in and I felt heavy on my heart that it's the right thing. So knowing that it was the decision the American people made, I'm relieved and I'm very happy. Very, very happy, okay?
Starting point is 02:10:09 It's the very first day of finding out the election results. All of us are happy. I'm very happy. But I'm not going to continue to post about it, but I'm also not gonna be sorry about it. And I always talked about how my family, sorry, I don't wanna make this more than once. I always talked about how my family had different beliefs,
Starting point is 02:10:34 my grandma and my mom and my sister, and how we always got along. And I wore my grandma's sweater to go low and I I'm so sorry. I'm trying not to cry, okay? But my heart's broken. Try not to cry. Yeah. Try it. My grandma just sent me
Starting point is 02:10:57 a very sad text. It broke my heart. And my mom has yet to text me back today. My point of making this video is to say that I am very happy and I expressed how happy I was. Um, and I'm not going to be sorry for that. I'm completely heartbroken that my family is taking it how they are. I never did this to them when Biden won. Never.
Starting point is 02:11:32 But. I am done with political posts from here on out. It's back to normal. If you don't like me because of who I voted for and you have to unfollow, go ahead. My own family. Unsubscribed from my life. So you can too, I promise. It doesn't get worse than that. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Starting point is 02:12:21 Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back.
Starting point is 02:13:14 In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 02:13:54 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family.
Starting point is 02:14:26 They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council.
Starting point is 02:14:49 I'm not crying. Yep. I saw that, Randy, Mustafa, and Joe. You know, all I could think about was this. Come on, guys. Now the funeral is over, and all the tears are dried up. Niggas hanging deep on the cut, getting fired up. Looking for the nigga who pulled his pistol on my homie. And I'm for an odd, so now your wife...
Starting point is 02:15:28 Come on, Sean. I'm just saying. I'm going... I'm playing... Guys, come back to the panel. Thank you, all right? We're supposed to play that over the panel. That's what I'm thinking. I got no tears. Every time I see one of the videos, I'm-a play Scarface. Every time, Mustafa. Every time I see one of the videos, I'm going to play Scarface.
Starting point is 02:15:45 Every time, Mustafa. Every time. I'm going to play Scarface. You should. Because, you know, maybe I think about this stuff on a deeper level. You know, these folks, you know, as they're celebrating,
Starting point is 02:16:00 are they really paying attention to the actions that the person that they voted for is already putting in place and the pain that it's going to cause and the individuals who are going to be hurt by it? So, you know, someone once told me, sorry, not sorry. That's exactly where I am in this moment. And, you know, you can cry the tears all that you want to because they're temporary tears, because you don't have to live in the communities that are going to have, you know, unfortunately, more police officers doing nefarious things. You don't have to live in the communities where their people are going to find it harder to
Starting point is 02:16:38 breathe clean air or drink clean water or get lead out of the water in the schools where the kids are. And I can go down the laundry list of things that these people are going to be crying real tears while you'll be able to go right back to your life as you were. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to... Matter of fact, uh... Several people sent me this one, too. And I really, Randy, this one too uh and uh i really uh randy uh do not care how this dude feels
Starting point is 02:17:11 maga family i was on tiktok live and a fellow trump supporter said that all he needed was my vote i'll never be part of the maga family and that i'm black i'll never be accepted but he just got my vote no that's crazy like i. Like, I love MAGA Nation. I love the MAGA family. And that breaks my heart that someone would speak to me like that right after the election. That all I was was a vote? Nah, I love all you guys. And I know most of you MAGA family members are not racist.
Starting point is 02:17:38 And I love you guys. And I'll keep repping MAGA Nation, Trump 2024. But that really broke my heart that some guy would say that. Extremely heartbroken. So he was extremely heartbroken. So, I mean, I guess, Randy, I would just think about. Tony Brax is unbreaking my heart. Man, go sit your punk ass down. They ain't never gave a damn about you.
Starting point is 02:18:22 They ain't never gave a damn about your silly ass walking around in that dumbass MAGA hat. They let you know exactly what they think about you. I've been very clear about how they felt about his black ass. I mean, just... I just... I can't even... I feel sorry for his mama. Just bless his poor little soul.
Starting point is 02:18:44 I mean, he is pitiful. He is the ultimate of pitiful. Like, he is trying so hard to be accepted into a club that he can never be accepted into, ever, ever, no matter what. Poor thing. Poor thing. He's talking about his heart is broken.
Starting point is 02:19:02 It's going to be shattered. All right? Give it some time. Woo, child. Mm, mm, mm. Poor lost soul. I'm telling you, these folk are funny. I mean, they just really are just
Starting point is 02:19:19 bothered, Mustafa. I don't know. I don't know what we're going to do. Well, you play yourself. We have history with a small percentage of our folks. We can go back to on the plantations where we had a tiny
Starting point is 02:19:38 percentage of our folks who would do anything that Massa asked for. Somebody once said that. Y'all remember when they said, if Massa's sick, I'm sick. You know, so we've come through history where we have our folks who want desperately to be white for some of the folks. For other folks, they just want to be accepted. And it doesn't matter. You saw individuals who, who was it, the brother who was running for governor in North Carolina. Mark Robinson. And Mark Robinson said he would love to join the KKK. If, you know,
Starting point is 02:20:15 you have these individuals who, I would love to say they've been through Stockholm syndrome, but it's not just the Stockholm syndrome type of thing. They truly believe that if somebody smacks you in the face, then you should turn around and get smacked in the other side because you don't think that they'll do it. And then when they do it, you'll say, well, they must have had a good reason to do it. And that's exactly what you got going on with some of these individuals, that no matter what folks say or do to them, they want so desperately to be a part of that supremacy club.
Starting point is 02:20:45 And maybe what they think is, if I'm part of that club, then maybe the impacts won't be as great to me. But the reality is that they will never see you as human. They will never see you as an equal. But they will pimp you, and that's exactly what they did. This here is the video Randy was talking about. Joe, watch this. This here is the video Randy was talking about. Joe, watch this. So for all the English speaking people that are watching this,
Starting point is 02:21:20 watch this video. Basically, the guy is talking about his experiences living in the neighborhood filled with other trump supporters and he wanted his fucking kids to play with the other trump supporters but guess what they don't want his kids to play with their kids because their kids are hispanic to the point where they're to scare the kids off by shooting guns in the air. This is what you wanted. This is what y'all picked. So don't complain.
Starting point is 02:21:55 Don't fucking bitch. This is what you fucking chose. So shut the fuck up. Get the fuck out of my house. These people, I'm telling you, it's a lot of... I know some people out there like, yo, bro, that's a lot of cuss. I'm telling y'all, folk are not...
Starting point is 02:22:12 They just like, yo, we ain't trying to hear it. I mean, I keep... I keep... People don't understand when we talk about there being consequences. And there are people who are like, yo, we tried to tell you, you didn't want to listen, you wanted to sit here and act a fool, you sat here and you, and then now you're upset because folks say
Starting point is 02:22:34 we're not coming to your aid. And I'm telling y'all, it's about to be a real, it's going to be, it's going to be more tears. And I'm telling you right now, this is going could be me all day. What's for lunch? We'll be going to the park. Joe, I don't want to hear the whining. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:58 You can't whine because at the end of the day, this is what they thought about you. All you could do is vote for them. Vote with them. And then after that, you can go and do whatever they believe people that look like you do. And, you know, I'm not Hispanic or Latino, but I couldn't imagine, you know, toning down my heritage or any of those types of things for these particular folks, you know, toning down my heritage or any of those types of things for these particular folks, you know, and subjecting my kids to a situation where you don't have your eyes open about who folks are and who folks aren't. And so now they want to be accepted, you know, because they voted for Trump. But the fact that they voted for Trump doesn't change how they are seen in the
Starting point is 02:23:45 eyes of certain people. And so now you're going to have to deal with that. And that's where you are. And then this brother with the MAGA hat on, listen, I wouldn't get his cat five cents for cheese on a Whopper. He didn't get to come to the barbershop. He don't get to come to the barbecue. And he's going to have to sit in the back row in church. Okay? Now, the sun is going down in here in California, so he better go and get his black behind home before Massa beats him like he stole something. That's all I got.
Starting point is 02:24:14 I'm just telling y'all right now, okay? I'm going to H-Town for Thanksgiving. And everybody else, they only have their turkey and stuff. I'm going to H-Town for Thanksgiving. And everybody else, they only have their turkey and stuff. I'm eating gumbo. I'm just telling you, look, ain't nobody, ain't nobody rolling up in the crib with a MAGA hat.
Starting point is 02:24:38 Right. Yeah, for sure. And I'm telling you right now, Mustafa, you're my alpha brother. The level of hostility that I would have goes beyond if every one of my nephews was an omega, kappa, sigma, and iota. I would be like, oh, hell no. I'm telling you right now. So for all these people who say, well, no, you know, we should put politics aside.
Starting point is 02:25:16 No. I wouldn't even let your ass eat a plate. You have to go to Popeye's or go get you a hot dog at 7-Eleven because you ain't rolling up in my house. Matter of fact, I would treat a MAGA voter, if somebody rolled up in my family house at Thanksgiving, I would treat you worse if you a Negro who didn't pay his child support and you looking for a plea.
Starting point is 02:25:43 And I ain't got no problem saying it. I mean, it's real, right? So folks who decided to vote for Trump, there's an ideology, and that ideology is not one that is beneficial to our communities. So why would we co-sign? Like, when we hang out with someone or we invite them into our space, we are saying that
Starting point is 02:26:06 your belief systems are something that I'm comfortable with. So, you know, I'm just always amazed how we try and figure out ways of sanitizing, you know, the most vile things. And in this instance, it is, you know, the sets of policies that this new administration is going to move forward on. So if that's what you're down with, you're welcome to do it in your home or in your community in enclaves where you might find a whole bunch of folks who believe like you do. But, you know, and this is a shout out to my mama. My mama raised over 50 children, all kinds of different people. Anybody was in trouble, she'd bring them in. And my mother has this thing about on Thanksgiving of going out and bringing people off the street so they have something to eat.
Starting point is 02:26:57 So, Mama, I hope this year that you don't not necessarily bring folks in, but that you are selective about the individuals who deserve your charity and your grace? Well, Waka Flocka had a little attitude because this happened. He was supposed to appear at some event in DC, and these folks, this lax wine and spirits, they said, I love and support my community first and foremost. I'm not a huge political or music person.
Starting point is 02:27:25 I truly had no idea about the views of Waka Flocka Flame, nor do I share his views. My community has spoken, and the event tomorrow has been canceled. It's supposed to be a meet and greet. Hey, dawg, take your ass to a MAGA event. Let's see if they buy your music. You can go out there with diamond and silk or silk or diamond. I can't figure which one of them is still living.
Starting point is 02:27:46 Go on here and go with them. No, don't be trying to roll up in here. Because here's the other deal. Waka Flocka, before the election, cussed out the audience and said, if you abide, if you a Harris supporter, abide a Harris supporter, get the hell out of my concert. I ain't got no problem with them canceling his ass. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
Starting point is 02:28:14 But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 02:28:45 I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott.
Starting point is 02:29:16 And this is season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
Starting point is 02:29:39 We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things.
Starting point is 02:29:57 Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 02:30:24 We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like, he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more.
Starting point is 02:30:49 Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Maka and Amber Rose need to get together and figure out a new career, because I promise you, MAGA ain't going to have near one of them. And I said near.
Starting point is 02:31:03 Near one of them on any circuit. They're not gonna be working with them. It's done. They used them for what they used them for. They've been over. They got what they got, and it's over. And so... And he showed the Black community, and Amber Rose showed the Black community who they really are.
Starting point is 02:31:19 We're not gonna forgive them. They're not coming back. So they need to start looking for some sort of other skill. I hope they have other... I don't know if Amber Rose really ever had... Hey, Joe, Ray J, too? All y'all gone with them red hats? I didn't know about him.
Starting point is 02:31:36 Oh, yeah. Ray J was down there at Mar-a-Lago with Amber Rose all excited and happy. I didn't know about him. Joe, I'm going to go to the country. Go on, get. Mar-a-Lago with Amber Rose all excited and happy? Mm. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna go to the country. Go on, get! Yeah, you know, hey, listen, go and make it last forever
Starting point is 02:31:56 like Keith Sweat because, you know, hey, listen, you know, all you got the lifeblood of one's musical career is being able to appear with your audiences. And you might cross over a little bit and do some pop and that kind of stuff. But at the end of the day, if your people don't support you, you're going to end up having a problem. And so you run the risk of having that happen.
Starting point is 02:32:19 And so, you know, whatever comes, comes. And so, you know, you really need to look that way, look both ways before you cross that street. And if he didn't and he suffers a consequence, then that's where he'd be. I mean, I guess he's sure that he doesn't have to, he doesn't need music for his career and for
Starting point is 02:32:38 his life to work out. And if that's the case, that's fine because there's a whole lot of people that might not check for him because of how he came out. And that's just how it is. Well, there you go. And just to grant it, just in case you didn't see this photo here, well, there you go. Okay.
Starting point is 02:32:54 You ain't coming to my house for Thanksgiving. All right, y'all, that's it. I appreciate it. Thank you so very much to Randy, Mustafa, as well as Joe. I appreciate it. Folks, y'all know, we keep it real, we keep it honest, and we don't sit here
Starting point is 02:33:14 and play games, and so we just go ahead and call like a T.I. is. You know, and some folk, you know, they can't handle that, but that's how we do it, how we bring the funk because sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, and so that's how we do it, how we bring the funk, because sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. And so, that's what we gonna do.
Starting point is 02:33:30 And so we gonna keep doing that. And so, I'm about to sit here, let me do this, before I go, I gotta give a shout out. And I cannot believe my man is 17 today. Yo, I cannot believe my man. So today. Yo, I cannot believe my man. So this is a photo from two years ago of my nephew Chris. Chris turned 17 years ago. So, you know, we all the November baby.
Starting point is 02:33:54 So my nephew Chris, his birthday is today. My brother's birthday is tomorrow. My birthday is on Thursday. And so we all back to back to back. And, man, I'm telling you, I'm still mad. I was praying his wife could just hold on for two more days and have Chris on my birthday. She was like, no, hell no, I ain't doing that. So shout out to my man Chris.
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Starting point is 02:37:46 You dig? We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more.
Starting point is 02:38:31 Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 02:39:26 I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to it. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.

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