#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Elon Musk Fake Voter Site. Trump Loses Mail Ballot Fight. FCC Pressures Jimmy Kimmel

Episode Date: September 11, 2026

9.10.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Elon Musk Fake Voter Site. Trump Loses Mail Ballot Fight. FCC Pressures Jimmy Kimmel Elon Musk is running a fake voter registration site designed to steal and sell data. CEO of the legitimate voter registration site Vote-dot-org joins us live to discuss how not to get duped. Appeals court hands Don "The Con" Trump a loss on the mail-in ballot restrictions ahead of the November elections. Despite having voted by mail himself, Trump has long claimed the practice as fraudulent.  The Missouri Supreme Court finds Secretary of State Denny Hoskins in contempt of court, then clears it after he reluctantly agrees to use a 2022 congressional map. The Federal Communications Commission threatens late night host Jimmy Kimmel to make a major change to his show after his interview with Texas Democratic Senate Candidate James Talarico.   Trump bizarrely offered every adult U.S. citizen thousands of dollars in direct payments at the Republican midterm convention if the party keep their congressional majorities...however, this isn't the first time he's bribed Americans.  Black Star Network Partner: ChapterChapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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is running a fake voter registration site designed to steal and sell your data. The CEO of the nation's largest nonpartisan voter registration and get out the vote tech platform, vote.org, will be joining us to explain how you can't, don't, should not get duped. Oh, the Missouri Supreme Court slapped the Secretary of State Danny Hoskins

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It's a conversation you don't want to miss. It's time to bring the funk on Roland Martin unfiltered. On the Black Star Network, let's go. No, and more than 250 current and former congressional members to urge the Supreme Court to block the twice impeach, criminally convicted conman in chief, Donald Trump, his executive order limiting male voting. The states banded together and filed an amicus brief

asking the Supreme Court to leave in place a ruling by a federal judge in Boston that prohibits the Trump administration from implementing part of the state. of a U.S. Postal Service rule on mail-in ballots. The 40-page filing was the latest chapter in an ongoing legal battle over the Trump administration's efforts to put restrictions, massive restrictions, on meldard voting in place before the November election. The dispute began nearly six months ago when Trump signed an executive order that instructed federal agencies to take a series of steps on mail-in voting. But not only that, what they said is those steps would be to create essentially a federal agency. a federal database.

And there have been states, Republican states that have actually opposed it. Even one of the people who was stepping forward with this is Georgia Secretary of State, Athensberger, who said, no, we don't want to do this. We're talking about my panel right now. Dr. Greg Carr, Department of African-American Studies at Howard University, joining us from D.C.,

Robert Bartillo, civil rights attorney with the Patillo Law Group out of Atlanta. Julian Budan, former Democrat at U.S. Senate nominee out of South Dakota, joining us all as well. Glad to have all three of y'all here. Robert, it's real simple. Even these red states realize what Donald Trump is doing, that is illegal, that states have jurisdiction over voting. And, you know, this Supreme Court has been trying to give Donald Trump everything that he wants.

But these folks are right. Enough is enough. You know, it's amazing, Rowland. Now, I've been working in this space of voter protection. since we were marching around the Georgia State Capitol back in 2004 to prevent the voter ID law. And everything that we said back then that people told us we were fearmongering. When people said that we were stuck in the past, when we said they were going to come after our vote, every single thing that we said is coming to pass now.

We are going everything from cold taxes to restrictions on early voting, restrictions on mailman voting. They are attempting to steal these elections in any way possible. except actually giving the American people what they want. So it's imperative for all of us to understand that they are going to put a full attack on these midterm elections. Elon Musk has already said he is investing in these elections just as he did in 2024. Turning Points USA has said they're going to be sending out people just as they did in 2024. The White House and Homeland Security, we're talking about sending out armed ice thugs,

mass federal agents to quote unquote monitor. They were tempted to steal voter rolls from states around this country. If you don't understand what's going on, they are attempting in every way, shape, and form to steal this election so they can solidify this permanent MAGA deep state in ways that Trump is very fearful of. The reason you're seeing a first of its kind Republican midterm national convention is because they are afraid to death of what will happen if they lose and their agenda is turned around midway through the stream.

So this is why it's so important for us to get out there and register for us to fight like hell. We cannot go down without a fight when it comes to our democratic principles and what's left of our voting rights. We still have an opportunity to turn this country around, but they understand if they win in November, they may have this permanently, this permanent Magadique state that we will never be able to get out from under. Julian. Yeah, thank you, Roland. Listen, this is, to me, a bigger issue than what we are. really focusing on because the debate right now, especially here in South Dakota, which is also a really red state, is that this is nothing more than a preference of how we vote, which is by

mail, but it's much larger than that. This is Donald Trump trying to take away the power and the authority to administer elections from our states. That is dangerous when you talk about the Constitution is dangerous when you talk about democracy. This entire conversation, when we talk about voting rights, we have to be able to talk about that from a grand scale, when we talk about voter suppression and we also talk about voter registration, which I understand we're going to talk about a little bit further along the line today. But the danger is that, excuse me, is not just saying that we're taking away the right, is saying that we are intentionally creating policies through this particular administration to suppress your vote. And we're talking

about through deadlines, we're talking about through IDs, we're talking about the registration obstacles. And voting rights, I think what I want people to take away from this whole kind of conversation is that voting rights don't just disappear all at once. They disappear one intentional administrative step at a time. And that's exactly what we're seeing from the Trump administration. Greg, bottom line is, again, he puts forth this nonsense school executive order. And again, it's about stealing. It's about rigging the election. All this stuff about sending ice to the ballot box as well, because they want to scare people who are in the country. legally. These people have no shame because they are afraid. They are scared to death

if they're going to lose in November, lose the House and likely the Senate. Yeah, absolutely. It's not all at the same time, but this is a quantum leap. This is the, they're taking a page from Trump's mentor, his Rasputin, Roy Kahn. Do everything illegal and make them respond to you. And as they're trying to respond, pile on, pile on, pile on. They're ideologues. As we talk, we're going to talk about a little bit later in the show with the redistricting thing in Missouri. It's clear the federal government has no role. Beer Kavanaugh had no choice but to send it back.

But they have a MAGA judge, Stephen Clark, at the district level, put on the bench, by Trump, a fellow society guy, who said, who basically in his opinion is like, yeah, well, I'm going to say that they can use those earlier maps just because I'm on the bench and can. This is the naked power grab at the end of their white rule. And so as you've written about, as you're about to publish a book on, this white fear, this white fear is driving them to now cast away all of the law and having read through the 40-plus page United States Postal Service versus California, Trump versus League of Women Voters brief, the Amicus Brief you're talking about, you know, the fact that they lead in this brief by saying,

well, they couldn't get this up logistically in the time frame. The machinery isn't there. The entities at the U.S. Post Office are silo. They couldn't talk to one another. The fact that they even lead with that is a bit disgusting because the bottom line is, when you look at Article 1 of the federal constitution, the post office can't do it. But taking a page from the Roy Cohn book, we don't care whether it's illegal or not. throw that ish in there and see who's going to stop us. At some point, we have to stand up and say, enough is enough because what they're really on the verge of now

is wrecking the federal polity forever. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but that's absolutely objective now. The law has nothing to do with this. This is a straight, naked, quantum lead power grab. That's exactly what it is. And listen, these people do not care about the rule of law. Let's talk about Missouri.

Y'all, literally, the Missouri Supreme Court unanimously ruled that they could not use maps that were passed by Republicans to gerrymandar out the district of Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver in Kansas City. Well, Republican Secretary of State and the Attorney General are like, yeah, we don't give a damn. We're going to defy you and we're going to sit here and use the maps that we pass. So then they appeal to the Supreme Court. Brett Kavanaugh is like, nah, I'm not weighing in on this. So then they went and got a Republican judge to rule that they can use the new maps. So Missouri Supreme Court is like, okay, bring your ass in here, Danny Hoskins, and stay before us and tell us why we should I hold you in contempt for trying to ignore our court order.

Then the Supreme Court ruled this morning, but the Supreme Court still said, yeah, come in here. Then 14 Missouri legislators threatened to impeach the Missouri Supreme Court. Y'all, it's seven and five Republicans, two Democrats, threatened to impeach them if they dare to hold him in contempt. Well, they did, but his was saved his ass. Because the Supreme Court ruled again by that way, he ain't got down to say with this. because he had sent out this statement you set out this statement to county

and said y'all can do what y'all want to do well then he had to walk that back and so the court ruled yeah we hold you in contempt but then we're not going to go further because you are you obeyed what we laid out to do this goes to show you all shame what these people are

and y'all chief justice w bret powell when he announced the court's decision he said that Hoskins had purged himself of the contempt violation by conceding defeat. He notified the court after this morning's contempt hearing that he had reversed course and directed local officials to use the same congressional maps in 2022 and 2024. But he is so arrogant that he's proposed a video of how he was standing up for what is right.

No, here's what this also is about. It's also about is somebody who clearly wants to run for governor. and wants to use this as a way to see, I stood up for what was right. Oh, by the way, that whole threat to impeach the Supreme Court, ask your neighbors in Kansas how that fared when they tried the same thing.

The voters kicked their ass 80 to 20. Julian, what we have here are Republicans who do not care about the rule of law, because if you rule against them, they said, what the hell? We'll still do whatever the hell is we want. Yeah, you know, I'd argue that Republicans hadn't cared about the rule of law at all in decades. And, you know, you talk about Kavanaugh.

Listen, if my mom wasn't watching, I would have a few choice of words to say about Kavanaugh. But of course, he wouldn't say anything because he's scared to say something against Donald Trump and this regime. You know, I hate to call it an administration because it's not an administration anymore. But, again, I want to bring this right back to the people. One thing that we saw down in Missouri, and the reason why this didn't get passed, in my opinion, was not because of the Supreme Court. It was because the people took power right back into their hands. We saw voters gather petitions, hundreds of thousands of petitions, getting signatures and seeking a referendum. That's how things moved out in Missouri.

It wasn't because the Supreme Court suddenly had a change of heart. It was because the people grabbed hold of the power. We can't get buried in procedure when we talk about it. about democracy. We have to remember that democracy is only as strong as the people. And politicians who are, you know, trying to change the political map just because it benefits them, they need to be out. And that's another opportunity for the people to grab the power. Citizens in that state organized, grab signatures, and got the job done. Voters are supposed to choose their representatives, not representatives choosing who can and who cannot vote for them.

they're nuts Greg they're insane but they are who we said they were and we know who they are they will flout the law they do not care until they get their way that's right Roman

you know and it seems like if there were a single word to describe this latest assault of the white nationalists on our common humanity it would be the word chaos um

as you just said Julian I agree with you brother They haven't cared about the rule of law in quite some time, but at least before the appearance of Bozo Trump, there was at least the veneer of playing by some generally accepted rules. This Missouri case is the latest example of them introducing chaos theory. So, as you say, this clown, Hoskins, who is, as you say, we think he is, it's funny how all these people look the same. They think about central casting a lot. These are who you think they are. Look him up.

You see his face. You can tell what y'all was tell by looking at him. But, okay, yeah, I'll go along. Fine. But here's the problem they have. The problem they have is that they use those other maps in the primary in August. Now you've got a question for the general election. How are you going to figure this out?

Because this afternoon, a little bit after 1 o'clock, the Supreme Court issued the ruling, as you say, that, okay, that district court judge, that federal society, MAGA appointed judge Stephen Clark, who just minutes after the Missouri Supreme Court said, yeah, you should have allowed this referendum to go forward. Here comes Clark behind them like, now y'all can use those previous maps.

An inexplicable except you had to create a conflict so that it could go up the food chain on the rocket docket to the Supreme Court. Well, the court today, this afternoon said, yeah, no, you gotta use those previous maps. But here's the problem. They use those new white nationalist maps in the primary in August.

So the chaos comes in with, okay, so how are we going to do this election coming up, even though we got the right maps? And as you said, Julian, the people organized got the petitions, but this white nationalist clown Hoskins held the petitions, which is what the Missouri Supreme Court said he shouldn't have done. He held them until it was too late. And then all of this is designed to create chaos. The same thing with the post office.

They can't do this by the Constitution, but if we can just inch closer to the actual date and create chaos and confusion, then that's our objective. Because now people can I get my mail? The post office is going to mail my, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, this is different than the, you know what, I'm not going. Mission accomplished. We're in the chaos theory part of their strategy at this point. Robert. Look, Roland, I think what's important for us to see right here and right now is that they have, they have systematically gone through. and put together a comprehensive plan

on how to break the system. They have figured out how to play within the rules in such a way that it exploits every single cheat coat within the system and breaks it at its scenes. And what is crucial is, when Democrats get back into power, that we play by the same rules, we can't do this whole thing we did last time Trump was in office, and we said, we'll be more dignified than him,

we'll be classier than him, what will play by the rules. making Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, so on and so forth. We are going to need to be the people they have always claimed us to be. We're going to have to have a Soviet-style purge of the federal government to get all these MAGA deep state figures out of the government. We're going to have to start impeaching some of these MAG of right-wing federal society judges who have lifetime appointments.

We're going to have to either get people off the Supreme Court or ask for people to the Supreme Court in order to get things done. We have to be the people they claim that we have been. because we were seen. Maga is fighting with no gloves on. Remember that John Claude Van Dam movie where they wrap their hands and the bandages and put the glass on them?

That's how Maga has been fighting. And we've been walking around with a white handkerchief saying, oh, my God, I can't believe how savage they are beating the hell out of us. We're going to have to fix this. And it's not going to get fits by committee meetings. It's not going to be fixed by town halls. It's going to be fits by people.

getting back into power and breaking down the system that they are currently putting in place. Because if you allow even a one cell of this to remain, metastasizing within our government, it will come back. And we've seen time and time again what happens. We don't put these extremists down. We have an opportunity that happened in Germany after the first World War, and we ended up going right back to war 20 years later. We have to fix this from the core going forward because these people are entrenched themselves in our government. But Greg, if we go historical here, this is also what happens again.

And this has always been this country's problem. I'm saying this where we just saw these neo-Nazis, this far right winning in Germany. And folks are like, oh my God, what's going on? Well, let's take it back to this country. This country allowed the domestic terrorists to regain their land, to put them back in power in control after the Civil War.

They should have been completely eradicated. They should have all been thrown in jail. No, that's not what they did. And so what did they do? They use that power to take control. And we saw what happened in 1876 with the contested election. And then of course, the great compromise of 1877. We saw what they did when they overthrew

a Democratic elected government of black folks in Wilmington, North Carolina. and that was a coup. Listen, the Reconstruction Amendments, 13th, 14th, 15th amendment, they put the insurrection purposely in the constitutional amendment. But what did we do? We play nice.

And then what happened when Trump got impeached for leading an insurrection on January 6, 2021? Mitch McConnell, no, no, no, it's enough, it's enough. He's not being impeached twice. He'll never be able to rebound from this. So let's not vote to convict them. No, what this tells us is you must destroy evil. You must eradicate evil.

You must not invite them back. And let me remind people that there are conspirators on January 6th who are still walking the halls of Congress, who are still sitting in the House and the Senate, because they were also complicit in that effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. And there in, Roland, you've really articulated the challenge we have. And thank you, Robert, for, you know, for doing it, putting it exactly where we need to understand it. This is a criminal enterprise. At the founding, it was baked into the Constitution to criminal enterprise, basically a contract document with some rights tacked on at the end because they realized, oh, damn, we didn't say anything about the people. The founding of this country, as we talked about with, uh,

a professor of the University of Pennsylvania in a segment of the black table we did on his book, Kermit Roosevelt's book on this. The 13th, 14th Amendment's really the founding of this country. They're really the founding of this country because that's what brings in everybody who they wanted excluded. Well, it should have been including women. They needed a 19th Amendment,

but ultimately it's the 13, 14, 15th, 19th amendments. That have been said, the plain language of the 14th Amendment, not just equal protection and due process. When you read section two of the 14th Amendment, It says that if you participate in rebellion or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear the whole number of male citizens 21 years of age in each state. Now, of course, it's restricted to males at that point, but the point I'm making is the

14th Amendment has a provision for rebellion. If you go against the government, we can reduce your representation in Congress. It has never been triggered, but it's in the plain language. It speaks finally to the point you're making. Two of the central tenets of critical race. theory as developed by a number of people, but most importantly, Derek Bell, are interest conversions, and the principle Derek Bell calls the principle of the involuntary sacrifice. Interest conversions means what Derek Bell says.

The only time you've seen black people in this country make progress politically is when our interests converged with enough white interests for the create a critical mass. What we've seen with the concessions that you talked about, the retreat of the troops, the concession to the white masses in the south, which led to the rewriting of the state constitutions in the South in the late 19th, early 20th century. It means that not enough white people in this country cared what happened to the black people to submit the bloody victory of the Civil War

by institutionalizing rights for everyone. Now they got to pay the damn bill for it. And the second tenant, the principle of involuntary sacrifice, is every time this funky-ass criminal enterprise gets in trouble, who hikes up our pants and says, well, let's get out there and try to do something about it, not because we love America, friends, But because we're engaged in an act of self-defense and self-protection, that would be black people, which means after the Civil War amendments, as you said many times, a century later, we engaged in a second reconstruction with pushing forward to Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act of 64, the Fair Housing Act to try to put a cement under all of it. And here we are again, because since that time, since the 60s, these white nationals that call them something else, but they don't even deserve that invective, they have taken a blood oath to rule. But guess what?

What this time when they break it? We can't save you nor do we have ever never have we had any real interest in saving you. We've been trying to protect ourselves. But I think this time rolling, they may break it beyond recognizable repair. And at that point, I really don't know what we do next. But whatever we do, we should stop trying to put our faith in the idea that there'll be a critical mass of white people that will join us in interest convergence and try to pull this thing out to fire. They make it, they may break it down. But I was just saying, what? The long, loading times. The glitchy video calls. That's your house asking for better internet. Switch to Bell Pure Fiber, Canada's most reliable internet awarded by Open Signal from $75 a month.

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and she texts me right after saying it's a great benefit. It was easy. A real person walked her through the whole thing, and now she understands better what's going on. But also is not just her. Woman in Yonkers rode in saying the process was so simple, the enrollment was easy, and she was so glad she called. Then there's Maryland, 90 years old, in Florida, living on Social Security. Her premium climbed every single year north of $400 a month for coverage she could barely afford any more.

So what does she do? She called Chapter. They found her the same top-tier coverage for hundreds of dollars less. Ninety years old, and finally somebody in her corner. I hear stories like that again and again from our community. The Medicare system was not built to work for you. Too much fine print, too many plans. Yet Chapter's advisors are independent and honest,

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question why do so many people seem to think they know black men so well what they think we want what they think we need hell they even tried to tell us why and how we voted and never had a conversation with us never asked us how we felt brings us joy what makes us angry what makes us scared how do we live that's what this show is about. No translation, because we don't need anybody speaking for us. We can speak for ourselves. This will be a show where we bring brothers on that you don't see on every other talk show. Nope. Brothers that are doing work in local communities with black men for black communities. We're going to hear each other and try to understand so perhaps we can move forward together.

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Musk's vote safe website collects extensive voter data while promoting itself as a tool to help people vote with confidence. Vote.org's CEO Andrea Haley joins us right now. Glad to have you here. All right, so what's the, walk out the difference between the two. How much of this is mimicking your website? Well, I think this is definitely intended to confuse voters.

When you come to vote.org and register, we keep all of your information private, we don't share it, we certainly don't sell it, and we keep the voter as the centralized mission. Our job is to make sure that you make it from registration all the way to the ballot box. What this other site called Vote Safe does, I can't quite tell you, but Vote Safe for who is really the question. When did this site all of a sudden go online? Sometime in the last few days, it came to my attention, so I think it's a fairly new site.

And I think the important part is in the privacy policy itself. You know, the privacy policy states that they can sell data to parties that they're collecting information on you and the sites that you click on and where you click on the site. You can sell data and it can build profiles from users' data, including behavioral profiles, how you usually participate in politics, behaviors that you have, and even psychological trends. Obviously, it is a serious concern. You've got Elon Musk, former girlfriend, or one of the many people he's had, one of his baby mommas, who was alleged that he tinkered with the results.

A lot of people are concerned with him being able to access data via Starlink. I mean, you name it. And, I mean, look, this is a guy who's made it clear. He would do anything to help Donald Trump. I think the main thing here is to make sure, you know, I don't know exactly what his plans for this election are or what his true intention is. But what I can say... Well, first of all, he's already announced he's going to spend about $100 million supporting Republican candidates. So he's made it clear he wants Republicans to remain in control.

Yeah, I think that, you know, that's why voters should trust sites like vote.org and your state site. These sites are really here just to be of service to the voter and not to have an agenda one way or the other, but to make it so that people can have their voice heard. And yes, you're still looking right now at the powers and your hands campaign, that's because every American should be able to have their voice heard without people just collecting data on them along the way and trying to persuade them one way or the other. So it's really important that people go to vote.org where we know that we're just trying to get them from registration to the ballot box in a nonpartisan way

and to make sure you stay clear of sites that can be confusing. You can always tell by looking at, you know, who supports the site or looking towards the very, you know, bottom of these sites if new ones pop up before the election, you can say it has to say things like supported by, and I think Elon Musk's case, it says supported by his PAC. So there are ways that voters can tell, but the easiest thing to do and easiest thing to remember

is in a year where people are intentionally trying to cause confusion, the easiest thing to do is go to trusted resources like vote.org or your government, local government site to make sure that you check your registration, that you're ready to go and get your election alerts and things from trusted sites and not sites owned by oligarchs. Questions from the panel, Robert you first. So thank you so for all the work that you're doing. I think many people don't. understand that everything Elon Musk has ever done, he has stolen. He did not invent Tesla. He invested in a company and stole it. He did not invent SpaceX. He invested in a company and stolen. So it's not surprising that he would steal what your site does. Can you really talk about why it's so important for people to be vigilant in this campaign, particularly given to how tight many of these races are and how many outside forces, including much of what

the Trump administration has talked about doing with ICE and their stormtroopers. what we'll have on this election. I mean, one of the great things this election cycle is vote.org has already helped over 300,000 people register to vote. What we're seeing is real excitement and organic engagement also on the ground in a whole younger generation that's really wanting to show up and participate. And I think what you're seeing at some of the top levels is a backlash to that. There's a lot of fear that if there's high participation, then it also means down the

the road accountability and I think that's what we're starting to see but this year it's going to be really important to just stay focused on registration we have national voter registration day coming up next week and then getting you know to the ballot box and that means making your plan to vote early it means showing up in early voting if you have that available to you in your state it means making sure your friends and family also have all the information they need to participate we know that left and right this election cycle, there seems to be a lot of distraction happening. And focus is the way we're all going to make it through and make sure that we have free and fair elections. Julian.

Yeah, again, thank you for your work. Tremendous, tremendous work that you're doing here for this country. I would, you know, I would push like this because you touched on it a little bit earlier when you talked about the protection of voter data. But we've been talking about this here all day to day about the intentional chaos from this particular regime and administration, trying to make sure that we are suppressing votes and suppressing voters from even going to the ballot. And we know I've heard someone say before, all it takes is two raindrops for folks not to go to the ballot box, and we see even much more than that now. So can you expand on the how? How are you protecting the infrastructure of voter data from this administration? Yes. I mean, I think for us at vote.org, it's quite simple. We don't share anyone's voter information with outside parties.

And I think that's the kicker. We see this as a voting rights organization and a service for the American public to be able to use. Now, to do that, we make sure that we have funding from grassroots sources and from families all across this country. and we make sure that at the end of the day, that we have people around us who are very values aligned in creating and maintaining a public service. But there is a contingent out here that is really looking to, by any means necessary, confuse people, try to build profiles on people,

try to do anything they can to manipulate people down a sort of marketing funnel. And I think that you don't have to look too much further look too much further than the fact that in the first week of this website, they already put 180,000 behind marketing campaigns, targeting people. So I expect that to increase exponentially as we go through the next few weeks. We have voter registration deadlines, a ton of them coming up in the next few weeks and all throughout October. And then, of course, the election in early voting itself. And so it's just that there are people out.

here that believe that data and product is the answer to everything. And I believe people and community is the answer to everything. And I think that's fundamentally the difference right there. Great. Thank you, Roland. And thank you, Ms. Haley. And my thanks as well. And I couldn't agree with you more. This is a propaganda war. When we look back in the wreckage of what used to be the United States of America and do the autopsy, no doubt this period will reflect the idea that the propaganda. It's they think they can just grab a bunch of people through propaganda. So my question, even as we see that this vote safe is not a voter registration platform. As you mentioned, $180,000 spent so far through meta.

So, you know, Zuckerberg's people are, if they're not colluding, they're certainly being used. This site that collects IP addresses and locations, what website referred you to the place, the browser, the operating system you're using, every page you click, every page you look at, your voter registration status, your district invalid. This is all Elon Musk's platform doing this. Two questions. Number one, I don't know, maybe it's too early, but would you consider the possibility of legal action,

if not to shut it down, certainly to, I don't know, maybe there's an election interference theory or something that could be used or, and then the second question, I think, is probably the more salient question. And that is perhaps jumping in in this propaganda war with some counterpropaganda. In other words, saying that vote,

is not a voter registration site or maybe in placards or some coordinated effort with some outside agency or something to put out ads or to plant some things to say this is what happens when you go to that site this is what they collect and none of it is related to voter registration because the work you're doing is clearly important and we're fighting on the side of the angels but sometimes you got to get in the mud with these people because he's clearly decided to drop the bottom out of any principled thing so any any ideas about maybe getting in this thing and fighting back with some informationals out there that help push back against it. I think it's early to know exactly what all the options are available to us.

So certainly be talking to our team about it. And we definitely are going to get out there and make sure voters know the vote. Dot org is the resource that people should be using this election cycle. We know that there are a ton of people out there who would like to distract, mislead, cause chaos, of those sorts of things, but we're going to really focus on making sure that the 300,000 people who have already registered with us make it to the ballot box, and then that between now and election day, we register hundreds of thousands of more Americans so that they can get all the way through the process.

I do think that what we are seeing is a, you know, we're seeing a very aggressive stance out of Silicon Valley in general when it comes to tech and our democracy and the intersection of tech and democracy, I expect this to continue and to expand before the presidential election cycle as well. So this is a time to really educate voters about how to look up their trusted sources, how to know, look at the bottom of the site and to know who's behind the site. Look at who's funding these efforts and work and think about what their intentions are because if service really isn't at the heart and center of it, then it's not something that you want to use or put your information into.

But yes, we'll be looking at all sorts of different options. And I think in general, it's amazing that we've been able to keep vote.org supported on grassroots dollars for so many years to make it sure that vote.org is not get, you know, does not

have to answer to an oligarch somewhere. Yes. EG. I appreciate it. I'll reach the panel. Any other questions? We're all good? All right. Keep up the good work. And again, I need everybody to go to vote.org.

We keep telling people, also, Andrea, tell, but people who don't know, explain what Texas, because there's a lot of people talking about what Texas did, 1.2 million people. And I've been telling people always check your registration. Can you explain that? Yes. So in the state of Texas, they put about 1.2 million people

on what they call the suspense list. But the suspense list should just be called the update your address list. If you are flagged as being on the suspense list, you can still vote, you can still participate, you just have to update your address with the state. And if you find yourselves up the polls on election day, and they flagged you, you just have to ask for the form to fill out your address. And if you've moved counties, you may have to go ahead and re-register in that county. So the real antidote here is just to check

and make sure that you're registered. You can verify your registration at vote.org. But it's not something to be scared of. It's just, it's just an address update. That's That's really it. Well, I tell folks all the time, constantly check. And if you really want to be sure, hey, I'll register every year. Bottom line is, I don't assume, because it's games always being played, check your status. And of course, because the voter registration deadline is October 5th, I believe. And in fact, everybody who's watching, and we're going to start on Monday's show, actually,

we'll start tomorrow. we're going to start giving y'all the deadlines because it's important like perfect example south carolina has an in-person deadline uh it then has an online deadline then it has a uh mail-in deadline so we're going to give all that for y'all because people need to understand you have to check your status uh and so you got to be sure you register to vote uh in time andrea we appreciate it thanks a lot thank you folks we come back the sheer madness that happened last night at Trump Palooza in Dallas is unbelievable. You had some crazy folks talking.

You had that ignorant preacher, Lorenzo Sewell out of Detroit, who spoke. He's an idiot. But the supreme idiot of the night, it actually wasn't Donald Trump. It was Tim Scott. And we're going to show you. You're watching Roland Martin unfiltered on the Black Star Network. All right, folks, let me get first to fourth second. My mom had questions about her Medicare, so she called Chapter, a Medicare advisory company,

and she texts me right after saying it's a great benefit. It was easy, a real person walked her through the whole thing, and now she understands better what's going on. But also it's not just her. Woman and Yonkers rode in saying the process was so simple, the enrollment was easy, and she was so glad she called. Then there's Maryland, 90 years old, in Florida, living on Social Security. Her premium climbed every single year north of $400, month for coverage she could barely afford anymore.

So what does she do? She called Chapter. They found her the same top-tier coverage for hundreds of dollars less, 90 years old, and finally somebody in her corner. I hear stories like that again and again from our community. The Medicare system was not built to work for you. Too much fine print, too many plans. Yet Chapters' advisors are independent and honest, the only Medicare advisors that compare

every plan nationwide. They're focused on one thing. what actually works for you. If you're already in the right plan, they'll tell you. No games, and people who switched to a chapter saved an average of $11,100 a year. All takes us 20 minutes, you talk to a real person and it's completely free, help.

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And so he, all day, last night and today, Republicans have been trying to defend the sheer insanity of this. And if you want to see stupid B, is J.D. Vance, his vice president, listen to him on Fox News trying to defend. this BS. Mr. Vice President, I heard the Trump dividend to raise some eyebrows, $5,000 for every adult citizen.

If the House wins... Wait, it raised my eyebrows and both hands went up at the same time. But if Republicans win the House... This is for the American middle class. All right, but if Republicans win the House, $5,000 for every adult citizen, so you do the quick math, that's about $1.3 trillion. I can hear the critics' heads exploded.

They're saying, out loud, I guarantee you, President is bribing voters to vote for Republicans to take over the House, and then he's bankrupting the country because the deficit debt is huge, and inflation would come back if this comes into play. So how do you answer those criticisms? Well, I say first of all, what the president's talking about is fundamentally a dividend for American workers. We're taking in an extraordinary round of revenue because the President of United States is actually

standing up to both foreign companies, but also foreign countries who've been taking advantage of America, workers for pretty much my entire life. All of these tariffs, what is a tariff, Brett? A tariff is when the President of the United States says, if you want to undercut the wages of American workers, if you want to ship American jobs overseas, you're going to pay a big fat penalty when you try to bring that stuff back into the United States of America.

Those penalties have generated a lot of revenues. They've helped us pay down debt. What the President is just saying is, if you keep it going to the American people, if you keep us in power and allow us to continue to do these things, then you're going to share in some of the people going to share in some of the benefit of this incredible wealth that we're creating in the United States of America. I don't think it's a controversial idea. It's actually the President of

United States saying we're all working together. We're all on the same team. And if we continue to create wealth, that wealth is going to go back to the American people. Okay, they're lying. Remember, the Supreme Court has already ruled on his tariffs. They're illegal. And they've got to get that money back. Here's the other thing, y'all. People are not good at math. I guess when you bankrupt your casino, you're not good at math at all. Because here's a deal. They've only brought in $300 billion in tariffs. Do you know how much this $5,000 so-called check is going to cost?

$1.3 trillion. Now, remember, the deficits are already at $40 trillion. So I guess they figured what's another $1.3 trillion. But it's $1.3 trillion. Trump also claims that he doesn't even need Congress to do this. There's no way you can spend $1.3 trillion and not go through Congress, especially when the Constitution clearly states anything to do with money must start in the House. But see, the crazy thing is he's saying that I'm not going to send y'all the checks until after the election.

Even that idiot Laura Ingram who interviewed him was like, explain this? Why not just give the money now? If you have the money, why not give it now? Because they can't, I'll tell you what, because the Democrats can't do it, because with them it's negative growth. With us, it's so positive. So we're taking in $21 trillion. Nobody, no country's ever taken in anywhere near that. It's four or five times higher than the next.

All because of that beautiful word that you and I love more than most others, tariffs. Why not just give the money now? If you have the money, why not give it now? Because they can't, I'll tell you what, because the Democrats can't do it, because with them it's negative growth. with us, it's so positive. So we're taking in $21 trillion. Nobody, no country's ever taken in anywhere near that. It's four or five times higher than the next.

All because of that beautiful word that you and I love more than most others, tariffs. Okay. First of all, Republicans control the House, Republicans control the Senate. So if you want to do this, you're going to have the power. So why do you need for Republicans to be elected in November to do it? this when you control the House to sit in the White House. Here's the other thing, y'all. I told y'all poopie pants is not good at math.

He said we've taken in $21 trillion. Are y'all aware that the entire, the entire American economy, $30 trillion. Okay, let me say that again. I'm just give y'all a moment to think about this here. I want y'all just to sit on that for a moment. The entire economy of the United States is $30 trillion.

So how have we taken in 21 trillion? So he wants us to believe that we've taken in through tears on. Almost as much money as the entire American economy generates on an annual basis, dementia, Alzheimer's, and on meth, and throw in crack just for the hell of it. That's how insane this idiot is, Robert. Well, Ro, why don't we so mean to him, though? I mean, he wants it to be true, so ain't that enough? I mean, the problem with this, Roland, is that at this point of time, you have a sales.

segment of the American people who will believe this. That's why he keeps just throwing these things out. Not to mention he already said you're going to get a $2,000, was it, tariff dividend, there's another $500 check he's going to send out. The same Republican Party that's been telling us, as long as I've been alive, that the Democrats just want to give away your money to people. It's a party of government handouts. It's the party that wants to take money away from one group and give it to other people.

Now he's literally saying that is exactly what the grab amount of the Republican Party's wanting to be going forward. So at the end of the day, we have to work on educating voters so they understand that this man is lying. Because what I fear is that Republicans at some point in time will get smart. And in the next election, Trump will just come on and say, look, I'll give every black person $10,000 in reparations the day after the election. And you'll see folks storming the polls in order to do so. So as long as the American people are conditioned to believe that there are politicians, they're going to come with a magical free money check, then we will continue to be bribed by bread and circuses. We will be tricked the same way people have been tricked throughout history. And that's how authoritarian is usually stay in power.

I mean, I just say, yeah, Julian, to the dude. Just I keep telling me, boy, he lies about lies. Listen, he's a lying liar that lies. Let me say this. Donald Trump is someone, and forgive me when I say this, because it might be the only time that I ever say this. Fox News was right. Yes, we are going to call it a bribe because that's exactly what it is.

And Donald Trump is someone that's in office because he bribed, way into office. Listen, there's an argument to be made here, though, that $5,000 could be beneficial in the hands of American citizens. But don't sit here and tell me that you're going to give me $5,000 because you want my vote. Give me $5,000 because the American citizens deserve it. Give me $5,000 because we need some economic relief. Listen, families are struggling with groceries and housing and health care. And also, don't use this as an excuse, especially if you're a Republican, to tell me that we can't have universal health care, that we can't have universal childcare. Get out of my face with that. Get out of my face. Don't play games with me.

Don't play games with my family. And definitely don't play games with the pocketbooks of Americans in this economic crisis that we're in right now. So, Greg, I guess they don't call this socialism, but anytime anyone else talks about sending out checks, they call it socialism. But I guess with Donald Trump, he doesn't do it. No, it's whatever the hell they want to call it. absolutely absolutely i mean you know when i get my five thousand dollars i'll add it to the doge dividend i got and the tariff refund and that's a nice little nest egg for retirement right the lie is the point the lie is the point and when you replayed that uh i guess he's supposed to be interviewing uh it's supposed to be being interviewed by uh laur ingram tonight um

you saw his answer here is their strategy the whole strategy down to one three better word. Lie. Just tell the lie. I'm going to give $5,000. Ain't about the day after the election. Just like he said last night, the war is going to end right after the election. Whatever you, Lemmings, like Robert said, they're going

come running right up to it. That would be the smart thing. I'm giving every $10,000, why not $100? In fact, I'm going to give a million dollars to the bigger the lie, the people eat it up. Meanwhile, as we're talking about this,

Bozo Palooza in Dallas. The No-Going Backpack that he just funded, they just dropped $50 million on targeted elections in the House of Representatives. They just did that. Bozo, you know, is sitting up there talking this crazy talk, knowing that all of us a lie

and when Ingram checked him on it, you saw what he did. We're now down to the buzzwords. She says, well, why not do it now? He says, Democrats. That's the answer. I mean, Biden started the war. We saw that last night. Well, Biden started the war, Junior varsity vans talking about we're going to celebrate September 11th.

Celebrate? What are you talking about? Laura Luma running out right now with her plastic face like another Dick Tracy villain talking about we're not talking about Islam enough. Radical Islam. Radical Islam. This is just there right now down to the buzzwords because they are flailing and they know they're about to have their backs broken and we now have to eat this stuff like vitamins.

I ain't to Eric Johnson. son you're going to show up in skinning buck and dance i guess tonight he's scheduled to speak the mayor of dallas this is his last term as mayor y'all come on dallas do you think this guy got to go the nix rosa i know you're about to talk about tim scott but these niggos that have lined up to come to this thing they're worse than j d vans who will never be president where's marco ruby o'clock where's peter where's peter where the rest of these got where's little marco at then he want to be president why isn't he in dallas at the bozo polobleuze Well, y'all speaking of that, if you want to truly see a menstrual show, all you had to do is look at two individuals who spoke.

One of them, let me know what y'all have, the pseudo-pastor from Detroit, who all he does is figure out ways to grift. That's Lorenzo Soule, who is an absolute abomination to the ministry. So he previously had said, yes, I'm going to speak there because the government should be giving church's government contracts. For what? Like are you actually doing something? But I'm going to deal with a tiny Lorenzo a little bit later. Allow me to first play for y'all. The most embarrassing black Republican I've ever met.

I highly criticize Isaiah T. Montgomery for being the only African-American to go to the white KKK conclave in 1890 where they stripped black people of their right to vote in Mississippi, and he voted along with them. And so I often talk about him, but I think the most embarrassing, the most embarrassing. black Republican I have ever witnessed, and I've seen some. It's without a doubt, South Carolina, now senior senator, Tim Scott, now that Lady Bugs has passed away, you know, Lindsey Graham. Tim Scott spoke last night, and it is as cringe worthy as possible. we initially pulled a 47 second clip of Tim's speech. We went ahead and pulled the full of nine minutes

because we wanted to provide you as much comic relief as possible on this Thursday. Roll it. Let's keep the majority. Thank Texas is Trump country. For the state. Absolutely. And in Trump country, we celebrate the most transformational two years of any presidency in our lifetime.

President Donald J. Trump. President secured our border, and he passed the largest tax cut in American history. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on... Is it me? Does he sound like Clayton Biggs me? I'm Day Shepal. Maybe that's just me. I don't know.

Is it me? I think it's me. No, I don't think it's me. I mean, when I heard him talk, I swear I heard this. With their kung food and all that silly tang, tang, chong talk. I can't understand you. Go back to your country. I swear it sound the same.

Go ahead and roll it. Social Security. President Trump's agenda is keeping America safe. And he had no greater friend than our South Carolinian, Lindsay Graham. I see South Carolina in the House. We miss, we miss Lindsay. We miss his humor.

He will continue to inspire us. We will press forward with President Trump's agenda to keep America safe. And you know what? We won't get any help from the Democrats. I'm sure there are some people who are missing Lindsay right about now. Okay, go back. Democrat had the courage to put American security first. Not a single Senate Democrat would support voter ID.

Not a single Senate Democrat would vote to cut taxes on the single mother like the one that raised me. And if you think this group is really bad, this midterm, we face the most dangerous, radical, and frankly, weird Democrat candidates in American history. Did yo ass call somebody weird? Look at history. Weird is your ass giving this speech? Go ahead and play it. Here in Texas, I see Texas all over the house. I love Texas in the house.

No, your black ass don't see Texas all over the house because Texas is 61% black and Latino and well, you were talking to a damn near an all-white room. So no, Tim Scott, you didn't see Texas. Go ahead. Here in Texas, he got James Tala Rico. James Tala Rico claims there are six genders. He believes special woke pronoun. But Texas, we know.

That's who you serve. And here you are sitting here talking about James Telerico, his opponent, Ken Paxton's former top cop, Texas Attorney. Attorney General who you've endorsed Ken Paxton. Is this the same guy of Timmy Tim? I spent two hours, two hours of James Tala Rico. I came back and thought about it. Number one, I saw no deception.

He answered all my difficult questions. He didn't dodge anything. He didn't give me the Texas two-step when I asked him a hard question. He didn't go all the way around the bush and never answered. He hit it head on. He comes to this campaign and this initiative with a sense of service, a sense of service in his background. He was a teacher. My mother was a teacher.

I have granddaughters who are teachers. Both my wife and I have served Texas in our entire careers. See, Timmy, you're going to have some. some folk wearing cowboy has standing behind you, I got some for your ass too. Go ahead and roll Timmy Tim. My attention to Georgia because John also. Amen.

Amen. Amen. Can y'all go find me some cotton? That's what that fool sound like. Oh, let me go ahead and play y'all a black Republican. This was she had to say. about Timmy Tim's favorite guy, Ken Paxton. Oh, and did y'all notice?

He didn't mention Ken Paxton. He mentioned God. But he ain't mentioned Ken Paxton. Because you know you can't put Christian and Ken Paxton in the same damn sentence. But check out this black Republican from Texas. Why not Ken Paxton? Because he's trash.

That's a strong word. That's an honest word. He is a disgrace. He's a disgrace to my party. He's a disgrace to humanity. I ain't heard Timmy say that. Y'all go ahead and roll it. To let boys play girls in sports.

And then let's go to Ohio with Sherrod Brown. He, that's right, boo! Open border crisis. We're not going back to the days of Joe Biden and Sherrod Brown. Speaking of dangerous, North Carolina, Roy Cooper. I love North Carolina right here in the house. I love them. I love to see North Carolina in the house. You got to elect Michael Watley. You got to elect Michael Watley. Roy Cooper lit 3,000 criminals free roaming the streets and they committed 20 plus murders. Roy Cooper has blood on it. And yo guy Trump got blood on his hands, and we know his ass a criminal too.

Roll it. Troy Jackson and Maine. He said he would have run as a communist. As a communist, come on. You got Josh Turek in Iowa, and you have Chris Pappas in New Hampshire, both built their careers. That's right.

Terrible, terrible. They built their careers, raising taxes time after time. And then in Alaska, you got Mary Peltola. Now, Mary's a special one. She said that Joe Biden was the smartest, sharpest person she ever met. Seriously? But let me say this. Okay, much mouth.

Seriously? I am doing a dance for my people. Go. Michigan. Where's Michigan in the house? There you are. Michigan, take care of Mike Rogers because your candidate over there is a wonderful man named Mike Rogers, but he faces dangerous, radical, and weird. Abdul El-Syad.

Bill El-Sayat says football is racist. Have you seen the NFL? Come on. He says, Yeah, Tim, we have seen the NFL where there are no black owners. Oh, by the way, Tim Scott, are you fully aware that Brian Flores has an impending lawsuit against the NFL and their coaches for being racist and their hiring practices for head coaches? Oh, you didn't realize that, huh?

Oh, maybe that's because I keep up with black news, and yo ass don't. Roll it. Fourth of July fireworks suck. He hates part of his own state. He's not sure Israel should exist. And when it comes to the American dream, he prefers the Canadian dream. But worst of all, Abdul al-Sahed with terrorists. He panders terrorists.

In South Carolina, we call that hogwash. In Texas, you got another name for it. Crap. Yes. You can see. Texas, we have something for people like you, Tim Scott. It's called All Hat, No Cattle. The long loading times.

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This election is so, so important. The only way to keep dangerous, radical weird out of the Senate is a united Republican Party. Have a seat. I'm almost done. Nation under God. On the side of truth and freedom. Now Republicans, let's go to one. And this was the part of the video they didn't show y'all. I show thank my boss for letting me come out and speak to the people.

Oh, I really enjoy myself talking to the people. Y'all watch that. Don't worry about it. I'll go ahead and pick that up because I'm just going to clean up after y'all. Sound like a damn fool. Okay, but the minister's show was not over. Lorenzo Sewell. Y'all got that one ready?

You know, the one who gave that awful-ass speech, he really thought he was giving his I Have a Dream speech, prayer at the inauguration of that fool, Trump. They even let that, they let that troll, that leprechaun speak. A message entitled, enough is enough. Will you do me a favor? When you look at your neighbor and say, neighbor, did you know that enough is enough?

Oh, that we are saying today, not today's Satan, you will not still our country, you will not have our children, you will not. Don't you support the dude who held the Bible upside down? Don't you support the dude who couldn't say Second Corinthians, but he said two Corinthians? Go ahead, roll it. This day, this happened. Here you say your name. It's Toby. What's your name?

What's your name? What's your name? My name, Lorenzo. That's my name, because Daddy let me speak. Let's go ahead and go to our panel. Let's see, who wants First Dibs after we had to watch that minstrel show? Julian, you're a newbie. You get to go first.

A great opportunity. Listen, like the young folks say, man, that was cringe. About Tim Scott, man, that was, that was, I would say it was BS, but, you know, BS is worth something. And that wasn't worth two cents. I do want to get right back to using this and black folks like Tim Scott as a distraction. Because the only reason why Republicans are even holding this midterm is because they are in fear and they know that they're going to lose. Republicans, and Donald Trump actually said it on stage, is that Republicans need to look to him and vote as if he is the one on the ballot in order for them to win. So this whole thing is just like this walking contradiction. Republicans have built this entire political movement around one person.

And now, overall, they're discovering that the problem is that same person. They're running on something that's personality-driven instead of based on policy, instead of something. that's making our lives better as Americans. And so I would urge Democrats, especially those who are running for office right now, is to keep the main domain, the main. Stay focused, stay on message, talk about affordability, talk about health care, talk about voting rights. Make sure when you get in office too that we will hold you accountable to passing the

John Lewis Voting Rights Act. Talk about protecting education. Talk about wages, the things that matter to people. This entire thing is nothing more than a distraction. nothing more than a clown show. And listen, let Trump do Trump. He's going to act a fool. He's going to play his part.

Don't pay attention to those type of clown politics. Robert. You know, the thing that crossed my mind, there's a through line for both of them, which is this is why it's so important that we let little boys be gay when they want to be gay. We talk a lot in the black community about,

I'm going to beat it out of him. No son of mine's going to act like this. But when you force people to repress who they are, when you force people to go, you know, I'm going to take them to the church and we're going to pray the gay away. I remember that being very pervasive, you know, decades ago. But when we force someone to not live their truth, not allow them to love.

Imagine not being able to simply express your feelings for another human being. And then you end up with these walking contradictions. You end up with people who don't have an identity because they don't know who's, they are. It truthfully is sad and tragic that if these young black men have been given the opportunity to truly exercise their true beliefs, to live their truth, to live their best abilities, then maybe they wouldn't embrace such hateful policies, be in a political cult or personality of this nature, be forced to worship a dictator and self-prosterate themselves on national television.

We have to understand that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And just because you stop them from doing something that you morally think may be wrong or reprehensible, you have to understand that this might be the result thereafter. Okay. Greg. I was going to ask, where is Mindy Nosey? I'm seen her since 2024. Have anybody seen her?

You know, man was so desperate thinking he was going to be under vice president's a ticket that Tim Scott got on a knee. on Kiowa Island and took pictures proposing to her. They got married and Bozo threw him off of the list of potential people and picked Junior Worcty Vance, and we ain't seen her since. And guess the beard is little ill-fitting. But as you were talking, Robert, it made me think about Scott Bessent, the mealy-mouthed, thoroughly unqualified DEI hire at Treasury, who is, as we speak, wrecking the United States economy around the world to the laughter in China and Japan.

and Russia in other places. He's a gay man. He's queer. Eating a few months ago with Timmy. That was his meeting. A few months to go with Timmy. Oh, shit. Damn, Roland, man. Come on. That's got to be AI. Are you serious? No, no. That's that's Bacet and little Timmy when they met a few weeks, a few months ago.

Oh, my God. We did this sweater with that vest on. Come on, Tim, Scott. First of all, y'all, let's all agree to stop. Let's all, right. Let's all stop disrespecting. Josiah Henson, the man that basically Harriet Beecher Stowe ripped off for, ripped off for the character of Uncle Tom and Uncle Tom's Kevin, as Frederick Douglass and Martin Delaney told her, hey, man, you took Josiah Henson's life story who grew up right here

in the DMV, who escaped captivity. I found that photo for you, Greg. Oh, there is right there. Didn't get him to vice presidency. Good Lord. I mean, come on, brother. Come on, brother. Kea Wilde.

You may, uh, ain't seen her since, though. I'm like, where is she? That new wedding. Oh, oh. That is a, that is a government-issue white woman. That's a government-issue white woman right there. Go ahead, Greg. You got for it.

Robert, Robert don't take no prisoners, man. That flame four is real and metaphorical, brother. But, uh, but, you know, the thing that really in that moment, uh, and, you know, social media, the young people showed me a little clip today, of his brother roasting Tim Scott out there was on X and dragging him for filth. Yeah, that action was a year ago. That video was from a year ago, actually. It's from a year ago.

Oh, good. Yeah, that video you're talking about, that video you're talking about was posted because somebody posts, give me one second. I saw it, and it was first posted October 22nd, 2025. This is the video Greg is referencing, y'all. Audio up. You should just take a real-lized time. No, shoot, kissing ass. Kissing ass for Trump.

That's kissing for Trump. It's you. It's you. You don't have no respect, no love for your people. You're a time, buddy. You're a time. You're a suck-ass. You're a suck-ass.

You're a suck-ass. You're a suck-ass. You're a-s-law. You're a brother. You're no brother of mine. You're a-suck-ass. Suck ass, that's what you are. You suck ass, you're no good.

You all learn some history. You all learn some history. You're a disgrace to all black people. You're a disgrace. You're a disgrace. You're a disgrace. All right, so that was, again, that was October 2025. Go ahead, Greg.

Thank you, Roland. The only thing I would say, and, you know, he's going to be drug-fulfilled. I don't know what's in the water in South Carolina between him and Lindsey Graham. As you said, very point. I'm sure he does miss his friend. I don't know what they've done to them in South Carolina. But again, Tim Scott is a black man. So whatever his sexual orientation is, the things he's repressed,

he has climbed as far as he's going to get on that ladder. And those headpats, I mean, at least anybody pawed in the back of his head, like Byron Donald's there in the House of Representatives. But he can't go any further. And so for me, the moment in that speech that was the most striking was after he had finished, after he exhausted himself and breath and talked itself dry and

we'll even deal with Lorenzo that little chicken hawk, son, you're never, you're not ready for prime time and never will be, quote, Lee Greenwood, not that, but in that moment when Tim Scott finished and turned away from the podium, it reminds me what Ozzie Davis said about

Lewis Armstrong when he said, you know, we were doing a movie together and Lewis Armstrong was always laughing and telling jokes. And then one day, I was coming back from lunch and I passed him in his trailer, and he didn't see me. And I looked up and he had that handkerchief that he has in his hand. He used it on the top of his head like it was absorbing sweat. And he was looking up in the sky, and he said he had the saddest look on his face

that I've ever seen a man have. And he said, in that moment, I understood that for all of the skinning and all the laughing, he said that music Lewis Armstrong produced could kill a person. His music was in his horn. His horn was his message. but he saw the burden that Armstrong carried. Listen, Tim Scott, you're no Lewis Armstrong. You're no respectable black person, period, son.

But at the end of the day, that look that was on Tim Scott's face as he turned around from that podium, to me, that's the truest representation of Tim Scott I've ever seen. You saw the weighted world on an Uncle Tim's face. And, son, you will go down in history as one of the great race traders of the first quarter of the 21st century. That's your legacy, little Tim. See, the reason I am so critical of Senator Tim Scott

and Congressman Burgess Owens, Congressman Burgess Owens, this simple Simon Negro from Utah, when he was questioned about Laura Lumer, he ran like he was still in the NFL. He ran away like he was running away from a defensive back. Would not address, he would address that racist Laura Lumer with Congressman Byron Donald's, who went to Famu for a couple of years

and they decided to say, you know, well, let me just pull a Clarence Thomas. You know, Clarence Thomas was aligned with the Black Panthers. He was, of course, had allegiance to them. But same thing. And then Wesley Hunt is such an idiot. He wasn't even nowhere to be found at the little convention in Dallas,

and he's a congressman from him. He also lost to Ken Paxton. See, the reason I'm highly critical of them, because I need y'all to understand, this ain't got nothing to do because they're black and Republican. No, it's not. Y'all, I'm from Texas, from Houston. Alfonso Jackson, who was George W. Bush's Secretary

of Housing and Urban Development. I know Alfonso, Black Republican. Michael Williams, my good friend. My good friend, Michael turned 70 in May, Michael served in the Reagan and Bush administration. He a black Republican. His mama was a black Republican. His dad was a black Republican.

Their parents were black Republicans. See, when I think about black Republicans who are black, I think about this brother, the first elected African-American to the United States Senate since we're going to the United States Senate since reconstruction from Massachusetts, Senator Edward Brooke. That brother was a brother. That brother was a black brother.

For Greg and I, he's an alpha brother. But see, Ed Brooke, no, no, no, keep it on them. Because I need our people to know who this man is. See, that man was the one. who stood up for black folks in the United States Senate during the 1960s. It was that black Republican when after the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965 and the white Republicans aligned with the white Democrats and they were holding up the Fair Housing Act, held it up for two years.

It was that brother in February of 1968 who broke the filibular bubble. in the Senate to get it through the Senate, but it was still being protested and still being filibustered in the House. And there was that brother after Dr. King was assassinated at April 4th, 1968. LBJ sent a letter the next day to say, let's pass this bill in honor the man

who gave his life for it, and that bill was signed into law a few days later. But see, that's a black Republican right there. See, I know black Republicans who speak up for black people. I know black Republicans who have the courage and the audacity to call out their party when they're doing wrong. See, I know those black Republicans. I've met them. I've talked to them. I've sat with them.

I've dine with them. See, the issue for me is not a question. It's not a question of public. party. It's about principles. And see, when I hear Lorenzo Sewell up there shucking and jiving and smiling, oh Lord, I'm so glad they let me on the stage and let me be here. I'm just going to stand here and just shout and yell. And oh, Lord, I'm glad to see all y'all here. That's what you saw right there. You saw a minstrel show.

And then you had Tim Scott, oh, we love us from God. Oh, we, he, that dream, Tala Rico. And you are defending and supporting and endorsing a vile, despicable, corrupt individual in Ken Paxton, a man who's

so despicable, his own party impeached his ass. And the only reason he wasn't convicted because Dan Patrick, Lieutenant Governor, got a $3 million check from one of the donors, and they were like, no, we're not going to go here and do this. And Greg Abbott stood right behind him. That's why I hope Gina Hinoosa whoop his ass in November. That's why I hope Tala Rico whoop Paxton's ass.

That's why I need every black person in Texas to turn out and vote those scum bags out of office because they are scum. They are running around talking about how Democrats have been destroying Texas when they have been in control of Texas politics for the last 30 damn years. And so black folks should be turning out in massive numbers in Harris County, Dallas County, Travis County, Tarrant County, East Texas, all over the panhandle, Amarillo, all over because those folks don't give a damn about us. Because, see, they're the ones.

Abbott, Patrick, Paxton, the whole Texas Republican Party, they're the ones who are destroying the public universities in Texas. They're the ones who don't want black kids to be attending my alma mater of Texas A&M. or University of Texas or Texas Tech, or University of Houston. They are the ones who are leading that effort and they are aided by simple Simon Negroes like Bill Mayhomes who sits on the Texas A&N on border regions, who is one of the

greatest embarrassments I have ever seen as a black man. And we talk about black Aggies. When I was at the game, Texas, Texas A&M game last year, I was the first, I hadn't gone to a game because I ain't like when Jimbo Fish was there. And I saw Bill May Holmes sitting on the sidelines talking to then-Chancellor John Sharp, long-time Democrat.

And I saw Greg Abbott. Ain't no way in the hell I walked over and spoke to them. Because I am witnessing the destruction of all that we fought for over all these years. And the reason I called Bill May Holmes out because Bill May Holmes was the one who was chairman of the board

of the Texas A&M border regents when those races on that board decided to screw over that black woman who was a Texas A&M graduate, who they had hired, the president had hired her to lead the Texas A&M journalism program, and she was going to leave to the University of Texas, which actually has a higher-ranked program, was going to leave that particular program and lead it, and they actually put in writing Well, I thought we were hiring somebody that was a conservative to lead it. And this Negro, this simple Simon, was the chairman of the Board of Regents who allowed that to happen and allowed them to screw that black woman.

And it cost Texas taxpayers a million dollars. They had to pay her because they screwed her over. Her name is Kathleen McElroy. You damn right. I'm going to call out black Republicans who do not stand up and stand. stand with and fight for black people. So you can go on the stage and you can sit here and yell, holl, and scream, and you can sit here and give your speeches and you think you're doing something. But let me tell you something right now. History will record exactly who you are, who you were in this moment, Tim Scott, Burgess Owens, Byron Donnells, Wesley Hunt,

Lorenzo Seul, and every other African American who stood on that stage who had been silent by the attacks on black women and black men and black kids, who have been silent when this Department of Justice refuses to investigate cops who shoot and kill black folks, who have been silent with the attack on voting rights and civil rights, who have been silent with the racist attacks coming from this administration, who have been silent with the treatment. of Haitian Americans who have been silent with the attacks on black educators, who have been silent when Moms for Liberty took over school districts after the 22 midterms and they began to fire black superintendent's other year in South Carolina and in Florida other places. Why do we emphasize this midterm so much? because in 2022, after 2020, after Biden and Harris was elected, after folks voted in Georgia, after they put them in office, too many of us sat on our asses and sat on the damn couch in the 2022 midterms.

And you know who showed up? All them racist Mons for Liberty folks who ran for office. See, we ain't going to talk about that mom for liberty woman who was running around talking about how she's a Christian and she's so moral. And the reality is, then we found out her and her husband were swingers. You know, the one who in the school district, what's her name, Ziegler or something like that? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

We ain't forgot? See, I'm saying all of this, y'all, because I've been telling y'all since my book, White Fear came out. There's been a bullseye on the blacks, on the backs of black people. And the folk who are the most embarrassing are the black Republicans who have been complicit and silent and saying nothing. Y'all heard me mention Isaiah T. Montgomery, one of the founders of Mount Bayou, Mississippi. See, he thought that the white force was going to come around after a few years. See, he went to the 1890 convention, the only black delegate, and he actually made some comments and great notice very well

about some black folks not needing the right to vote. Frederick Douglass took him to task. But y'all keep reading 15, 20 years later, Isaiah T. Montgomery regretted what he did in 1890. Because the white folks never, they never changed. They never repented. They never, ever found their way back to doing what's right. And since 1890, not a single African-American

in Mississippi has ever won a state-wide election since that convention in 1890. So you wonder why? I'm setting up. I ain't sitting up with Scott Colon because he's an alpha, because that black man has an opportunity to bury that racist Cindy Hyde-Smith and become the next United States.

state senator. And do y'all know how much this nation would freak out if a black man from Mississippi had to be sworn in as his next United States senator? So when Tim Scott stood on that stage, he criticized Sherritt Brown in Ohio, Mayor Patola in Alaska, he criticized Roy Cooper in Georgia in North Carolina. John Osaf in Georgia. Criticize all the folks who run up a Senate. I hope every single one of those Democrats win and that they lose the Senate.

And that means that Tim Scott, could sit his ass over there and be in the minority and have no power. And he have to sit there and watch as Democrats lead. Because with Republicans, and now leading the Senate, Tim Scott has been absolutely, positively, 100% undoubtedly, complicit in the sheer destruction of black America. I'll be back. All right, folks, let me get personal for a second. My mom had questions about her Medicare,

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but whatever show it's going to be. It's going to be good. Folks, we're in doing with these racist, conservative lawyer and Trump ally Mike Davis. Made it clear how racist he is with his recent social media post targeting blacks and others regarding reparations. In a post, David says,

this to minorities asking for reparations, dear bitching minorities. Here's my proposal for your reparations to take a one-way ticket anywhere six months of living expenses renounce your U.S. citizenship never come back good luck you'll need it adding at the end of the post especially with nappy ass head of hair he followed with the post with this response obviously you don't want your followers to see the nappy-headed racist black woman's post to which i responded now david said all of this in reference

to a video of socialism 26 speaker raven swarm of curtis who's been on this show as she was discussing settler colonialism here's what she said say it? So Tiffany King is an incredible scholar. She's a professor at the University of Virginia, and her work really focuses on abolitionism, decolonialism, and thinking about those things through the lens of black studies and native and indigenous studies. And she has this incredible book called Black Shoals. And in that book, she talks about this tension of like, well, when we paint black people with that same broad brushstroke of settler colonialism, that's inaccurate or not being precise in our language.

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This resistance to the term is motivated by a number of different things. First, on a very gut and visceral level, it is a resistance to a very sloppy conflation that discursively makes white settlers in black people's relationship to native people, an equivalent one. White settlers and black people are not ontological structural equivalents in this hemisphere. Secondly, my own need to find new and more precise vocabulary is motivated by a sincere desire to think about how black life and political projects may bump up, and native political projects, rather, may bump up against and conflict with Native people's work to end genocide and white settler colonialism. As a black person committed to black liberation, I am also deeply

invested in native life and liberation. And so I think that that querying, right, what do we mean when we say cellular colonial, do we mean settler colonialism or do we mean white settler colonialism? I guess is really the core question I'm inviting us into. So I think that that precision is also how we enact care towards one another, right? Because if we can't be precise in our analysis, how can we be precise in diagnosing what the problems are and remedying them? So I just want you all to understand who we're talking about. This is his bio right here on Twitter. Attorney, Article III Project A3 Action PAC, VIP,

former Chief Counsel for Nominations Senate Judiciary Committee, law clerk, Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. Robert, this is not just somebody out of here just saying, stuff. No, this is somebody well respected in the Republican Party. It is, and this is part of the point that we've been making about reparations when we discuss the need to define them for ourselves before we allow someone else to define them for us. Because you see that he's setting the terms. And when you don't have the term set for yourselves on what reparations are, what's to stop Trump tomorrow from simply saying, reading

off that saying, look, for any black person who wants to renounce their citizenship, leave the country and never return. I will provide you with reparations and the XYZ amount in order. And then when we said we don't want that, they'll say, well, look, we offered it to them. And how much money do they even want at this point for reparations? So this is why we're going to really have these conversations, because every election cycle or so we hear people talk about tangibles, et cetera, it's about ensuring that you're setting the terms of negotiation, because if you let people like this, high-ranking government officials, people who wrote Supreme Court decisions, who held judiciary positions in the Senate.

When you let these people make the rules for you, this is how you end up with a system of not reparations, but reservations for where we'll be staying. Well, I look at, we discussed this Linda Palladino last night where she was, of course, on Fox News, and she had to say this to Laura Ingram. So I am furious. And one thing I do want to say I want to give it. Yeah. His numbers are still pretty high. I was shocked to see. But his approval rating, I believe, I don't think we have

the graphic, but his approval rating in New York is pretty strong. Is that surprising to you? Or you think no one's answering the surveys or what? It's look, you've got to find out who he's surveying. All right? He's not surveying people like myself,

average, middle-white working class people. He's not doing that. He is tending. See, Julian is hilarious because first of all, it wasn't his poll. It was the Suffolk poll that was one, and we actually checked the numbers, and there was a lot of white people being polled. But this same Pelladino decided to go back on Fox News, and she was talking to a white apologist in Harris Faulkner, who will never defend black people. And the same language Mike Davis is losing, using. Go back to where you come from. Listen to this. and more on the word participation, because you often will see some of these people on the stumps,

on election, so on and so forth. So anti-American and anti-Semitic influencer, Hassan Piker, tore into those 9-11 families and others who don't want Mom Donnie at the 9-11 ceremonies. Here's what he posted. He's the mayor of NYC. This demented racist viewpoint isn't even shared by most 9-11 families, many of whom voted for Z. At a certain point, if mainstream outlets don't call this manufactured racial hysteria out by name, one must assume they welcome it, right? What's your response to that? Oh, Hassan Pika, I'd love to have you with me in a room for five minutes. What's my response to that? Go back to where you came from. This has got nothing to do about Muslim, about religion, about anything. I am sick to death because I just got a filthy, dirty voicemail, threatening voicemail on my way here.

Don't you dare call us racist? Just because we all. citing the truth. Radical Islam bombed a terrorist attack on New York City, on the Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania, if it wasn't for those brave people, would have hit the Capitol. Palino,

racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist. Well, what you're going to say now? I mean, these people, they're showing us who they are, and then they're mad because they're showing us who they are and they get called out. and they love to use. They love to use.

This is the one just cracks me up. They just so love to use. Go back to where you came from. You just go back to where you came from. I came from the house, Julian. See, how about she take her ass back to where her folk came from? I'm sure the Native Americans are going, please, take your ass on. Yeah, listen.

First of, I don't know what she wants to do with a sign. I know last night, whatever Trump, or whatever, they showed him on the big screen with a shirt off. So I'm afraid to see what she wants to do with him after that comment. But look, I want to move this conversation into not necessarily proving that racism exists, because we, as black folks, we have to be tired of explaining our own existence. I want to move this conversation towards what racism does politically, especially because of who those two individuals are. Recently, I've been thinking a lot about, you know, like Obama and,

Kamala Harris and even the experience that Hakeem Jeffries just went through, and even my own political experience, so much thought that I was—you know, I wrote a full substack article about it, and it's really their intent to delegitimize black political participation. And that was said—that was said on that Fox News interview is that participation is key, especially when we talk about our black political leaders. And when black leaders are compared to animals or attack— and being treated as if they are unqualified, it makes folks question whether or not we belong.

And after a certain period of time, it makes us question whether we belong. That's an attempt to remind black Americans, you know, that maybe we don't belong to this country. And that's exactly what we saw there. But I want to take it one step further because I'm tired of having conversations ending with black folks being asked,

you know, how offended we are after certain things like this. Listen, we have never felt comfortable in this country. And so our participation is key so that we can make this country what we wanted to be, not who you see us, how you see us in this country. Excuse me. Bottom line for me, what pisses them off more, Greg, what pisses them off more is when we vote in a massive way. And so what I desire, what I, what I,

I want to see Greg, on November 4th, I want to see so many pissed off white conservatives. I want to see orange tears leading to massive floods in America. I want to see these people convosing at when they see us at the polls. We showed that video, y'all let me know if y'all find it. Remember, we showed y'all the Chris Brown Usher concert, and they were complaining about the long lines leaving, soldier field

in Chicago and folks are like oh my God these lines I want us to just piss these folks off so bad that it just drives them insane

Greg. Of course. Our presence already does that. First of all, before I say anything else, to counsel woman Palatino out of New York, I want to congratulate you on

the name change, the gender change. In your previous career, of course, you were known as Rick Flair. And wrestling, your work in wrestling was remarkable. And congratulations on the transition. I saw you slip there a little bit, though, when you invited, you know,

the person to spend five minutes out there with my, that was a little bit back to your WWWF for, but, but Brother Rick, I'll just tell you, you did a good job in the transition. Notice the slip, she said, when she said, what was the phrase, middle white. She just skipped over.

You meant middle class, didn't you know, you meant middle white? Because that's what you really mean, isn't it, Rick? But, yeah, our presence is offensive. Listen to the young sister, quote Tiffany Labato King, who's at University of Virginia, her books of Black Souls, I think is relevant for two reasons. Number one, the presence of black people in any space is offensive. And what this young generation has done is, they have now decided to perform

offensiveness in a way. I think that's where some of the, you know, the hair and the kind of gestures come from, although the academic language, thank God I outgrewed at, because it's not necessary all the jargoness. But the central point she's making that King is making her book that, you know, it's white settler colonialism. I do think that's important for this reason. People talk about we built this country, we're here, we're not going anywhere,

sure, all of those are factually accurate. But the investment in this country is a problem. Because remember, there were people here when we were drug here in chains. We don't belong here. I certainly don't belong here. But what you're not going to do is rob me of my full humanity, which we have managed to preserve over the last three centuries of this criminal enterprise to wit. Voting is one way to make our presence felt.

And it's a way to do that, not to build a more perfect union. This union can go to hell. It's going to have to be remade. But in the meantime, our acts of self-defense and self-determination require us to participate in the political process. And so that's the first reason. The second thing is the reason that Davis is pissed off is because the presence of black people generally is offensive to him.

He's a naked white supremacist. As you said, he helped shepherd Gorsuch's nomination through and then clerks for him for four months in the transition period as in his—one of his inaugural Supreme Court clerks. Our presence in this country is offensive to Davis because this is a white man's country for Mike Davis. I invite everybody go to the Article III project website where he takes credit for helping confirm three Supreme Court justices, over 230 Article III justices, including 54 federal appeals court justices on the circuit courts and 13 critically important federal

courts of appeal judges. These white boys are not playing with you. They are not playing with you. We're out here talking about Jay-Z, got an album at Target, or who's playing this weekend in the damn NFL, or what did so-and-so say, did Fat Joe use the N-W? Meanwhile, these white boys are marching inexorably toward the conflict that will be settled at the end of the day in the streets. So we have a choice. We can go in the ballot box as one strategy among many, exercise our self-de-exercise our self-de-executive. determining objective of protecting ourselves and creating a state, a country that is,

that will give over us some protections that we have fought for, or, quite frankly, we can give it up and decide to fight these white boys in the street. They have declared war on us. My question is, when we're going to fight for ourselves? You guys, what the hell is going on in the control room? Okay. I don't know. Okay, yeah.

I don't know what's up without switch. I told y'all, you know, y'all need to figure out what's going on. telling y'all all right so this the video i was telling y'all about this this is when uh black folks would leave in the chris brown uh usher this this what i want to see uh only early voter in election day i i want y'all want if fox news keeps showing them caravans on on on the border i want them to have to show these videos to drive these races crazy all right i'm i'm I'm in the show with this, y'all. A couple of them are end with.

I saw this video, and y'all. The only reason I'm playing this, because I got sick and tired of all these Fox News people sitting here. Remember Jesse Waters and they all, and they talk about testosterone and manliness. And Charlie Kirk was on that bullshit. Joe Rogan. All them fools were talking about, you know, manliness.

And, oh, you know, that's right. We've got a real man who are supporting us. Um, Vivek Ramoswamy, that lying as Republican, uh, running for a governor of Ohio. He decided y'all to do, to put out a video of him in the batting cage. Um, I, I think he needs some B12 shots, some testosterone shots. He needs some iron pills. Uh, he need a whole lot. Roll that video.

Here's 10 things I'm going to do for Ohio. Slash your property taxes. Abolish your state income tax. Cut your electric bills. Prosecute Medicaid fraud. Bring higher standards to our schools. Slice your health care costs. Bring high-paying jobs back to our state.

Put human traffickers in prison where they belong. Teach kids to be proud of our state and our country. Crush crime in our cities. Coming in 2027. Did y'all see his ass swinging that bat? What in the hell? But check this out. Michael Peacock, who says he was there when the video was shot, dropped his own video.

Oh, I've been waiting for this. I know. I know. I said I was going to pump the brakes on talking shit. But I happened to be at this bad incage when he arrived. I have the inside scoop. I got to do it. And I have proof.

See? That's me there. From a seat. So I frequent this facility, and at this particular batting cage, they have many different speeds for different levels of play. One of the Vex people literally came in beforehand and asked my friend and I how the cages were oriented. They chose the slow pitch, which is about 40 miles per hour.

He made contact five times out of 25 pitches with this garbage ass swing. Let's watch. 10 things I'm going to do for Ohio. Slash your preaches. property taxes. Abolish your state income tax. Cut your electric bills. Prosecute Medicaid fraud. Bring higher standards to our schools. Slice your health care costs. Bring high-paying jobs back to our state. Put human traffickers in prison where they belong. Teach kids to be proud of our state

and our country. Crush crime in our cities. He then left without talking to any of his potential constituents or possible voters. I would obviously never vote for him, but it's sports, there are conservatives there. And listen, I love baseball so much. It is one of my favorite things, and it is generally agreed upon in athletic circles that hitting a baseball is one of the hardest things to do in sports, and I am not a proponent of bullying anybody for attempting it. However, when you're the gubernatorial candidate of a fascistic party that likes to posture themselves as the true masculine party, we know what a man is, none of this soy boy shit. You're gonna get clown, homie, if a lefty who's been playing ball, his whole fucking life watches you bring this garbage to then turn around and act hard?

Look at that. Just garbage fundamentals. Robert, throw it slower. Can you throw it slower? Throw it slower because that's that. That's too fast. Robert, you're on mute. I'm on mute.

Go ahead. Roll it. This is the problem. I think if you look at the swing itself, it's a cricket swing. And that's actually even worse for a Republican politician because he swings the bat like a cricket bat,

which reminds. David, don't cricket swing. That's a cricket swing. No, a cricket swing. A cricket swing. Uh-uh, come to me. me, a cricket swing, a cricket swing like a golf swing. That shit ain't even no cricket swing.

Matter of fact, mad back, mad back, when you swing like that in a real game, all you're going to hear is crickets. This is the problem. Whether it's RFK, you know, his shirtless pushups when he's very clearly on steroids, you know, JD Vance doing his little hop, skipping a jump in the rain, we just trying to train with troops. They built his weird online colds. of masculinity, which isn't based on actual masculinity.

Actual masculinity aren't these, go do an actual damn job. Stop all these performances, stop all this posing. And the problem that you're running into is these young testosterone-driven incels who drove Donald Trump to victory in 2024. They're not turning back out. The Joe Rogans of the world are turning against Trump, the Theo Vons, the Reckless Podcasts, all of these people are now turning on Trump and they're going to have a hard time finally a new base of voters when the entire

movement was based on alienating everybody who wasn't you. We talked about struggling. I thought you were talking about Pete Hegg-Seth. Go to my iPad. Remember this here? Pete Hegg-Seth, he's sitting here. Can you get the bar? Oh, that's too heavy.

Oh, look at this. Oh, Lord, I can't even, I ain't even holding these right. I ain't even. Julian. They some. They're some posers, Julian. They're posers. Yeah, man, listen, they are soft.

That's what they are. You kind of stole my line because I was going to talk a little bit about Hicks and seeing if maybe he had Vivek Ramoswamy's phone number to give him some of those testosterone shots that he's trying to give to the Army. But look, they do this because they have nothing to stand on politically. The policies that they are trying to run on don't matter to, to everyday Americans, to everyday people here in this country. Plus, they are too intent on trying to tear down this entire country, whether it's tearing down the black community, tearing down Hispanic community, making sure that ICE is roaming our streets illegally.

They're doing things to make sure that the power stays in their own hands, and they know that the American people are not having, that the American people are having problems with that right now, and we'll not vote for them come November. So they have to do that to get attention. Greg? Well, yeah, I mean, overcompensating, you know, it's been many years since I stepped on any kind of field,

any kind of diamond. I was kept my baseball team in high school, and I'm offended by that swing. I would say you swing like a girl, but how are you versity has a pretty good women's softball team, and what they would say and correct me very quickly is not only does he not swing like a girl, he swings like a girl or a boy,

maybe as five years old at a tee ball. So that was very clear. And plus, Ramoswami was apparently a pretty decent tennis player at one time in Ohio, where he was born and raised. And like you say, Robert, a gesture to a cricket might not be inappropriate, given his ethnic background, but haven't been raised in Ohio. I don't know if he ever swore a cricket bat. But one thing is for clear, that limp-wristed, overcompensating reaction formation internalized, well, let me not even say that. Because, again, I think an underlying current through this whole white nationalist movement. And it's been since the founding of the clan.

It's been since the rape of indigenous people and women of African descent and men, for that matter, during our trafficking and captivity and invasion. There's been an underlying erotic current, an underlying sexual current that is really interwoven throughout white masculinity and their need to overcompensate that we don't give voice to a lot, but frankly should be discussed because it is the thing that ties them together. Here we are exactly one year from the assassination or the killing of Charles Kirk, and we haven't forgotten that much of his movement was based on this overcompensation, on this overperformance. And that is a shrinking group in this country. And that fear is not going to cause them to act more rationally. It's going to cause them to act more crazy. It's going to act even more and more extreme and absurd. But, you know, Ramoswamy, the voters in Ohio have something for you, my friend.

You may remember every non-white candidate. What was that Muslim brother's name in Michigan that Bozo endorsed? But because he had a Muslim last name, he had to convert to Christianity, and the white man who had to turn in his filing to run handwritten because he couldn't figure out how to use the computer and really was, for all intents, dropped out. One, a couple of months ago in the election because white people were not going to vote for no black person with a much. Muslim named, even though he's a Christian and Maga and all that. Hey, Vivek, they got something for your ass in the Buckeye State,

my friend, because if y'all come out and do what you need to do in Cleveland and Columbus and Cincinnati and everywhere else, Dayton, and bust his ass because in white people who he's trying to appeal to, they're not going to the polls. They're not going to the polls. But yeah, Ramoswami, you know,

do some more these wrist-ups. And as far as the runt roosters concerned, ain't enough to tosserone in the world to pump Pete Hexetheth. You're in the back end of it, friend. Well, that's why I'm telling y'all, black folks, if we show up and show up, yo, we can take them out in Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Ohio. I saw a poll Justin Pearson's only down four points in that redrawn district. Yo, Memphis, we should be voting in massive numbers. I'm telling y'all, we will drive these people crazy if we show out in North Carolina, Georgia, Ohio, Kentucky, Texas,

these places and man I'm telling you right now on a y'all know we gonna have the blackest election night coverage on November 3rd right here in the Black Star Network Studios and I'm telling you right now it's gonna be straight fever in the funk house and when these folk take massive ails and I want to see ails all across the south they tried to steal the elections they use the Supreme Court to steal our seats and let's show they asked the door but it only happens. You better get registered and you better vote. Let's take them out. Julian I appreciate it. Robert I appreciate it. Greg, I appreciate it as well.

Hey folks, we're gonna close a show up with this here. Don't go anywhere. Because today, two years ago, my man Frankie Beverly passed away. We lost that legend. And a couple of weeks ago, I got an opportunity to sit down and talk to the Bay and Mays. But my man, Rome, he is the last original member of Mays. That's right. Bud McKinley, who's the drummer, he passed away. We talked about him having a heart attack. He passed away.

Frankie passed away. Rome is the last original. He is the only person alive who's played on every single one of Mays featuring Frankie Beverly's hits. We had the opportunity to sit down and talk about his musical journey as well as his longtime friendship with Frankie Beverly. Y'all check this out. I'm going to see y'all guys on the show tomorrow.

Enjoy. All right, what's your name? Rome. What do you play? What do you do? Play congress and sing background vocal. Gotcha, because they don't know your name, and they just see the brother over there playing on stuff.

Where's your musical journey start? Philly. Actually, it's a beautiful narrative. That's where you're from? Yes. Okay. I met Frankie in 1969. No, no, no, no, no, don't you start,

when you start, you start musically? Okay. How young were you? Started in church, my grandfather was a Baptist minister, a singing pastor. So, church, and then... How old were you? 12, 13.

That's when you first started playing musical instrument. 15 for that. Gotcha. I played a cornet in high school. Then I played the flute. Like I was saying, in 69. You go from brass to woodwind. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I went to a boarding school along with my brother. We lived in a bad neighborhood, and my mom wanted to get us at a riffraff, you know, so we went to boarding school. And I used to go see my brother. He went there before I did, and the bass player was Walter Sleepy Watts. He played bass for the butlers, Rankin's first group. He said, when I'm not in school, man, come down and check me out. I was into jazz then, basically. I was playing the flute.

You know, then you remember the last poets, congas, and yeah, that's what I was doing. So I came out in song, sat in, of course the flute wasn't required in the music they were playing. And at the end of the set, you know, instead of Frank saying, hey man, it's nice to meet you. He said, hey man, I don't need that, but is there anything else you can play? And I played Conga's and I could sing. In fact, I was in a singing group with my first cousin. Ain't no stopping this now. McFadden Whiteha was my first cousin.

Okay, okay. Yeah, we were in a singing group prior to that. But yeah, and then I, Conga sang, he said, okay, I joined the band then. We stayed in Philly, toured around clubs, cabarets during that era. and went to California, Northern California, in 72. Things didn't work out as we planned. We first got there. We struggled for a while.

We played in the club in San Francisco. Marvin's sister-in-law used to come. She was a regular love to that. Marvin Gaye. Yeah. She told Marvin, you got to check this band out. He went out his way, came and saw us. Loved the band and hit the name.

We were raw sold then. So you go from the butlers to Roso? Yes. So we came up with some, threw out some names, and I came up with the name Maze. Everybody loved that, signed with Capitol Records. But how did that happen? Let me go back. Before I go there, before I go there.

Actually, I'm going to come back to the name Maze, but I want to go back to Philadelphia. Because, so let's set the scene. First of all, we were operating in a world. where emphasis so much is on Motown. Groups, harmony, you go from Duwop in the late 50s to now going into the 60s. And then you had different sound coming out of Memphis with Stacks.

And so what was it about the band and the sound that y'all were trying to accomplish? That was different from what had already been hugely popular. again it was Motown ruled the 60s and early 70s I think it was Frank's overall wanting to incorporate of course he wrote all the songs and he was a musician as well he played guitar and piano so with the songs that he wrote I mean it was just a no-brainer for us that we all loved the songs and performed them performed them all over and the first album was just a great experience for us you know there's some

great songs that came off of that album but yeah it was just a great journey living my best life and living a dream yeah I mean again when you look at so if you go from the 60s and now you're going into the early 70s now we're talking about now you're seeing the the era of bands we're talking And again, we're talking Commodore. Yes, sir. We're talking Earth, Wind and Fire. And again, now you're dealing with, you're coming out of that 60s at Motown Sound,

and now you're dealing with Stax, you're dealing with Philadelphia Sound, and now you're dealing with the artists as well. And so what I love about that period is that you had so many different musical influences. Sure, it all was under the band of R&B, but it was just so many different musical influences. just so many different unique sounds. And that's why I often say it, I still fundamentally believe, I don't care anybody says, that the greatest decade of music, black music,

was the 70s because you had so many unique sounding groups and individuals. Well, we were part of that era as well. I mean, the band era, all of those groups that you've mentioned, we toured with for years. and with Capitol Records being behind us, we just strive to do the best we can do and touring and Frank, the music was so different

from anything else because of his writing, and that's what made it so unique. I mean, when you heard May's songs, you knew exactly what it was. Did the sound change going from Philadelphia to Northern California? Not a lot. Just the songwriting, but not the sound.

You talked about, before renaming it, how did the connection with Marvin Gay happen? Now you talked about, you said his sister and hearing y'all, so she said, hey, check this band out. And then he comes to hear y'all. How many times he come to hear y'all, how did that relationship develop? He came to see us, we signed with Capitol Records,

Was he on Capitol? No, no. Okay, got it. He was with Motown. Okay. He knew Larkin Arnold, it was the AR president. He signed us up, Lark and Arnold. And from there, it was just incredible.

It just really was. It was just so much the doors that opened for us. The only thing we didn't get a lot was the crossover. And- You said the doors opened, because Marvin was really... He was essential in getting us to deal, and he also wanted us to be his band.

Okay. But Frank had other plans for us. So, Frank was not interested in being... No. Been a backup band of Marvin Gay. No, but we did tour with Marlin. Sure did. We toured for about a year.

Why do he ain't raw soul? He just didn't like the name, and I don't know why he didn't... Because we were raw and a soul for band. Because the music was raw. It wasn't, you know, some of these groups, you can hear it so tight and it's almost too perfect. We didn't have that.

We were always a raw band. And he just never liked the name. He just, no, man, that's the ugliest name ever heard in my life. That's what he told right. We used to be called, we were called Raw Soul at the time. And he came up to the stage and just hundreds of... all just was really, the first reading said, funny. The long-in-the-girls are ugly,

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So where did you get it from? What were you? Well, I was thinking about the music would take you in and out of. different emotions, you know, and then we were more of a musical band back then. So I just said, well, wow, these songs really do take you in and out of a, you know, you go in and come out and it just made sense. And then the logo was an actual seven-fingered hand for each member in the band. And it was authentic.

You can go in to the thumb and come out at the pinkie. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Marvin was a big part. of us just coming out being recognized without him. We would have still been in the clubs in San Francisco. You talked about the struggle in Northern California. Why was it a struggle?

Was it because y'all was so different and the artist was like, I don't, because you got the hippie era. Yeah. I mean you had Sliding the Family Stones, so you had that rock, that Jimmy Hendrix. So that's what I mean, it was so many days. different sounds.

And in fact, that's why we were influenced to go to the Bay Area because of Sly, Sanct, because self-contained bands. And we were that. So we were heavily influenced to go in there. And once we got there, we had a gig set up, a few gigs, and they fell through. So we were struggling. I mean, we were homeless for some time.

You know, we had a Brill bus that we converted into a tour bus. And in 1970, Frank and a lot of the three or four of the band members Frank's manager some of the crew I didn't want to take that journey so I flew to Vegas my brother was living here bus broke down in Stewart Iowa come on now Stuart Iowa Royal White Town engine blew out they're there and a man walks up to the band as a black being and a white being. We don't do black beings here, boy.

The teenagers knew it was a band. They rebelled, you know, and they stayed until the engine was fixed, which was at least maybe three weeks to a month. Damn. Really. In Stuart Iowa. In Stewart, Iowa. The kids loved them.

they would perform for them. And when they left, the engine was fixed, and they really get out of there. Some of the people, the cats, and one of the ladies went with them to the Bay Area. Wait a minute. So White folks followed them from Stuart Iowa to the Bay Area. Yes, sir.

Because they loved to meet with that. And not only that, they were invited to individual homes for dinner before they left. The same people that, yes. Wow. That's how, hey, music, music is so powerful, and I don't have to tell you this, and then it's a time capsule of your life.

Think about it. Any time you can think about genres of music years, it's those moments, man. So it is a capsule of your life, music for sure. Yes, sir. I bet you were like, I'm sure glad I flew. Well, you know. Been that three weeks so long.

It would have been an experience for sure. But, no, I didn't make that journey, but they told me about it. And truth be told, I'm going to make sure that's a book or movie. That is a beautiful story. I mean, come on. That rarely happens, and when you see it, it's a movie.

Gotcha. You know, yeah. They ended up just caring for them, basically, but they were still racist. in the beginning. See, Frankie didn't tell me that story. I didn't know that one. Yes, sir.

So you talked about this struggle. So how many years are y'all, because you said you got there at 72? Yeah. How many years are y'all in there before it begins to come together and start clicking and you are no longer homeless and y'all are surviving?

First album. First album in 76, you know, did well. And then live in New Orleans album, I mean, come on. What year was that? Oh my, I think that might have been 76, 77, possibly. I could be wrong. So what was it about that album? Because y'all get a call from the record label.

And they say to Frankie, you won't believe the response to this. Yeah, we sold over 200,000 records. in a month just in New Orleans, just in Louisiana, and the same in Dallas. So the first album went gold. Yeah, Frankie said that Gulf Coast just, New Orleans, Louisiana, Houston. They thought we were from New Orleans because of the music

and it has a certain groove, you know, Frank not knowing, but they had this second line and it's something about that music that they grabbed, they just said, hey, this is us, Frankie. They, like, northern city, New Orleans. Right. Yes, that's a whole. Well, you got, you got second line New Orleans, rural Louisiana.

You got Zadico. My grandparents are from Apollosos, Louisiana. And so you, and then, of course, now you've got New Orleans bounce. And so it's all of that, and it's all, it's instrumentation, is the singing. It absolutely is the group. Yeah. I mean, it's just a musical town. I mean, come on, they start jazz.

Everything comes, you know, it's just a combination of people's soul. So when y'all were, so when you're, when y'all recording it, did you feel it on the stage? Did you, I mean, obviously you couldn't predict how it would sell. But describe that recording and that performance. Was it like a calling response in church? You talked about being a P.K. Yes, sir. You give it out and artists is coming back

and now is reverberating back and forth. Yeah, yeah. It was amazing, pardon the pun. The energy, the crowd, you know, adored us, sang every lyric. And this is the first album, and they were singing, you know, everything. But that city and that kid, that show,

still to this day, best live, one of the best live albums ever. Now, now here's crazy. I'm partial to live in L.A. Yeah. Because the tempo is different.

Right on it. It's a faster tempo. Yeah. It's a slower tempo in New Orleans. So I actually listen a lot, I listen live in L.A. all the time. And so a lot of, we had this debate all the time.

Folks go live in New Orleans or live in L.A. For me, because it's a faster, I like live in LA. But the thing that was interesting is so, so you're talking to 76, so I'm eight years old. So if we go for it probably about five or so years. So,

every year y'all did prayer view A&M homecoming. Yeah. And my cousin, her former husband, I mean, I swear, it was always maze. He said they took a road trip. him and some dudes took a road trip, from Houston to Florida. He said,

Houston to Florida, and the only thing they listened to all the way to Florida and back to Houston was Maze. Wow. I was like, that's all, he said, bro, we did not. He said, the whole trip.

Yeah. And the music touched people like that. It really did. I've heard stories similar to that, you know, people saying, I got married for one of your songs. I fell in love. It saved my life. You hear that, and when you hear that,

and we've heard it several times, man, y'all don't know, your music saved my life. Cut me out of jail. When I did the special that we aired on TV one, I went around and kept asking this question. And when I had my radio show, I would always, I would just do segments and I wanted people to give me an answer as to what was it?

What is it about May's fishing, Frankie Beverly? And it was so that people just loved. And of course, the setup, the setup to it was that, If you look at the body of music, we're not talking about the same level of number one hits as the Commodores and Earthquake Fire. At that time, y'all hadn't gotten any awards, anybody. And people were like, are you sure rolling? I'm like, yeah, I'm trying to tell y'all. And it was so interesting all the different answers as to why. What do you think it was?

What was it that just touched people in a way that really separated y'all from all those other historic bands of the same era? I think it's just the trueness of the band, you know, in the music as well. And you don't see or hear about us out there doing anything crazy. We would just never a high-profile band. And we come out on the stage, no gimmicks, no, you know.

Y'all have had no pyrotechnics. None of that. You didn't have the, I mean, when you think about the outfits of those groups at that time, it was just. No. And the thing is, well, I love, I remember, oh, my God, I forgot which one of the years at essence. Y'all didn't even use the whole stage. No.

It was like, all right, this massive stage. It's a semicircle. We're set up right here. Yes, sir. Yeah. And that's where we wanted to be close so we can feel each other. And that bond along with the music

made that hump, you know. And I think the reason why we didn't really get to those places that some of those other bands did, they cost over. They had pop hits. We've never had a pop hit. Not that we couldn't have. You can't tell me happy feelings in a pop song.

You know, joy and pain. but we didn't get all the, I guess, promotion that we should have. But did y'all want that? Because I saw the Earth Win and Fire documentary that Quest Love did. And Maurice White wanted that he wanted that pop, he wanted that crossover. Using one of the phrases is always in,

well, y'all just like, yo, we in the pocket of black folk. We good. Yeah. We had the community, and we always have. I mean, before I let go is the May's anthem in every part. You know how before I let go is an anthem. Concerned because we had our, without our incredible fan base. We haven't had a record out in over 30 years, and we still sell out.

Now, that's, that's the funnest thing. I think I, I think my interview, Frank, I told them this story. Y'all were in Dallas, it was Gap Band, in May. Gap Band came up before y'all did. And it was just, I mean, they killed it. So y'all come out, playing the songs. So then at one point during the concert, Frank started talking. He was like, hey, y'all, you know, we're working on some new stuff.

I had never seen this before when he said we were working on a new album. And the whole arena bust out laughing. It was like, I, go ahead and seen those songs we know. I mean, it was like the whole thing. The whole arena just bust out laughing like, yeah, I, okay. We want to hear it, yeah. Let me know when y'all done with that nonsense. Dude, it was hilarious.

Yeah, that's true. The fans, look, we're still relevant because of her fan base. But did y'all, a lot of artists, Prince was like this, Andre 3000 talked about it, did y'all have the urge of, man, listen, we plan the same stuff. We want to do something different. or that y'all say, hey, this what they want? If it ain't broken, we're going to give them what they want. Yeah.

I mean, and those are standards. I mean, those songs, you can't do a concert without. You think them people, you're going to hear them, hey, don't do before I let go. Happy feelings, joy and pain. You have to do that. Those are standard main songs, and we love playing them, and the people love not only hearing them, they sing every lyric. Melanie Span Cooper owns WVON Radio in Chicago.

She told me, y'all booked a concert, I think Fox Theater, I can't remember. And it was sold out like in 10, 15 minutes. And it was so much pressure they had to add a second show. And she said that had the first show, and in between the first and the second show, y'all got a little lit.

She said, Frank was a little lit. And she said, she said, he came out and she said, Roland, I swear for 40 minutes. She said, the band would play, the audience would sing the whole song,

and then the band would go right to the next song, and the audience would go right to the next. She said, Frank, they had to sing by 40 minutes. She said, they were like, say, dog, we got it. Yeah. Yeah. I've never seen anything like it. And I've been in this band forever, you know, 55 years with frame, you know.

So, but, and if, and I'm still a jazz guy. When I go home and I listen to it, it's jazz. Mm-hmm. It's jazz. But even I would go see this band. If I wouldn't, I would go see this band. I would have to. What also I think is interesting.

again when you talk about the connection and I'm gonna go back to what I was talking about from a church standpoint pulpit to pew pew to popin to some degree prints in purple but I don't know of any

other group that dictates the dress code of the audience I don't I don't know I have seen I have seen a lot Again I saw Luther I saw the

Jackson's with the victory tour I've seen Janet Jackson I mean I can go down the line Mays is the only group that if they come to town all the white linen in the city is going to get sold out

because every and then if you come to the concert and you do not have white on. Yeah, yeah. People look at you like, the hell wrong with you. They're paying homage to us, of course. And that's Frank's thing. In fact, it was a fan

that made him always wear white. She told Frankie, you look good in white. And that was it. Because he, Miami, he said he wasn't thinking about it. No. He came out dressed at something else, and they were like, hell you got on. No, no. And when he

started wearing him, no. No, no. So that's out there. We just played the Winston-Salem over the weekend, all white. All white. And it's a great look, you know, because it's a regal color anyway. So, but to see all of that out there and the respect and the love, that's all,

they said, we love you this much. We go, we're going to imitate Frank. Yes, this is what we are and we love y'all, and we're going to show you by dressing, this way forever. hilarious is I never saw Frankie offstage wearing white. He might have

red on, never saw him offstage wearing white. No, that's his uniform. Right, right, right, right. Well, the funniest part, we were the joining cruise, so I go back, I go to dressing room. Frank had about 20 white hats and I was like, Frank, Dave, Frank, that you have to pack, 20 white hats dog

They all look alike. All the same. I was like... The band would laugh about that. Like, ain't nothing. It was like it was 20 different white hat. Right. It was the same white hat.

Yeah. His outfits, he had a lot of the same outfits, but we used to joke about that. You know, like, what would he just change them depending on the day? You know? Your mood? Because they all look alike. But that was his...

His color, man. He loved it, and they loved seeing us in it. And to this day, yeah. You talk about New Orleans, my first essence festival. It was crazy. So I'm in one of the Superdome Suites, so I'm high up. And it was amazing to what, and I think I shot some video. I know I haven't.

It was amazing to see here here, you are 60,000, thousand people and you're seeing the floor but you're literally seeing people line dancing in the seats waves of people and I'm like and so again so and then the next year I'm on I'm on the side of the stage so now I'm seeing it from that vantage point but it was the most it was the most unbelievable sight and out of all of the acts that weekend that was that that was no other reaction reaction that y'all got. I mean, so when you talk about that connection

to New Orleans. It's special. It is really special. I don't know how to explain it. It's just, it's a soul thing. The spirit, they just embraced us and took us in like we were their own. Did you see the video

of the funeral they had? Yes. That was, they took a placard of Frankie. Put it in a casket, an open casket, and had a second-line funeral. Close the streets down. That was, that was, that was, that was crazy. Man, I, I was almost in tears. I couldn't believe it, but I understand it.

Because that was our town. That was our go-to city, for sure. Fan base, No Wells, New Orleans, to this day. Yes, sir. Y'all also were, y'all were road warriors. The other thing is, I mean, y'all were always on the road. You were performing. A lot of groups do a tour, take time off, but how many days a year where y'all, I'm talking about,

if you're talking about over that 20-year period, how often were y'all performing? And the heat of the maze run, we were out for 10, 11 months. easy. Dang. Easy. Because we go overseas, you know. In fact, I loved it so much over there. I lived in London for three years, but the commute was brutal.

Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. I said, no, I got to, you know, go back to it. But yeah, man, we were, and we loved it, though. And then, you know, it was something our first two, three years, we wanted to stay out there because it was something new. We loved, you know, all of it. And then we was kicking butt on the way, you know, that was the era where bands were

petting, you know, it was battle the bands. And we had to go in there and, hey, and the disco era came in, no. You didn't hear no disco stuff from you heard from another. So bands, some of them fell by the wayside because of that. Right. You know, some of them, Earth went in fire, they, some of them, you gotta be big and strong have a foundation to come through that and come out still be a thing right but we didn't touch it well what beats and everybody can dance even people that don't

know how to dance can dance now so you talk about so now you go disco late 70s then then you're going into then you're going into hip-hop then you got punk you've got all these different you got all these different genres that now are shifting and changing, radio is changing, R&B is not getting the same way. So how in a hell do you all stay so consistent? Was it because of you lock that foundation and you continued it because you went from that period to then multi-generation? You went, it was, decades. You went from not just the folks who listened,

then you went to folks became mothers and fathers, then became grandparents, now you had grandparents, mothers, and fathers, now you had children, so now you were operating with three generations. Yeah, and we see that at the concerts, which is really love it when you see teenagers, and you see that because, you know, those kids grew up listening to Maze because their parents were playing, Right.

You know, so that grew the fan base. And rolling hits keep you alive forever. Even one, they got people out there with one hit and they're torn. But we got some guns, man, you know, and it's going to keep us torn and continue Frank's legacy, which I know that's what he will want us to do. And we're going to continue to do that. It's unsung, a lot of these other specials, it's drugs, it's money, it's people losing their mind.

How are y'all able to not go through that turmoil that destroyed bands, that destroyed lives, that destroyed legacy? We were blessed, because I've been here, like I said, 55 years. We've had different cats come in and out of the band, But we always had a strong family base. Love each other.

Always loved. Frank and I, we were hippies. During that 67, we were part of that hippie. And we're loving peace? I mean, who don't want that? It's just now it's, you know, I don't even talk about it, because people just poo-poo it.

Like, it ain't nothing. And it saved the world, you know? But that's what we were about, you know? We just stayed true to ourselves and to this day, but we always were family. Even the different cats that came in out, we never had any friction. Jealousy, one guy on a drug, no.

Yeah, it's a pot of it, but you know, nothing hardcore. Never, and it's been at least seven, eight guys, you know, that came in and out of the bag. Never. to this day. And now we still have one of the tightest families. And these guys are all new.

I mean, actually, bass player, 20-something years. Vance Taylor, 20-something years. The rest of them are under that. But Calvin Knapper drummer, he just got so many acknowledgments, honors, and awards in Winston-Salem, which is where she spoke. a recognition to maze and appreciation of its lasting musical legacy, its dedication to excellence, and its ability to inspire, uplift, and unite audits throughout power of music, presented on this day, it's 22nd day of August, 2026.

But yeah, just beautiful brothers, man. I love them so much, but yeah, it kept us together without any of that. We talk about the power of the music and also the power of the fans. and it was very interesting when you lost one of your band members on the road. And a lot of other folks would have stopped. Yeah. Y'all didn't. No, because Bob McKinnelly Williams, he was the eldest, elder of us.

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I don't check, you know, it just happened. And we know that he would want us to continue because he was hard. No filter. It's one. And like that hard. So we know he would want us to honor him and continue, you know. That had to be still difficult. Well, we kept his gear up for a couple of years.

Kept his stuff, he's, you know, all his toys. He kept him up there. Yeah. But the key was the music, the people. Yes. And he did one let them down. Always. And out there.

seeing them other than sex. Talk about family and talking about the music. And I remember when it happened, how difficult was it was for you being an original when y'all separated and with new management. Manager, Dias, Joe, long time manager, new crew comes in and this tight knit family, everything changes.

Well, that trans- The transition happened, didn't want a lot, and then the new management came in, and they weren't honoring the changes that we would want to have happened. And we decided, no, all due respect to Frank. We still love them, but we're not gonna be disrespect. No one's ever gonna do that to us,

not as long as I'm around. No. And that was basically it. You can't honor what we're saying. We didn't, you know, not like we were asking for the moon. He basically, you know, shot that down, had a band ready almost to replace us. And, you know, Frank and age, a lot of things

didn't matter that much anymore. You know what I mean? When you get, you know, 77, yeah, things don't matter. He just wanted to get out there, do his thing and go home. Was it, I'm friend, watch him on stage, difficulty singing. Yes.

I remember y'all in the Bahamas at the boule. And I was almost in tears watching because his voice wasn't what it was. And of course, remembering, and remembering previous before. It was painful to watch. Yeah. And honestly, and this is, I know I would have done it.

I would have said Frank down before that new management. And that was my intention anyway. You know, you've had issues with your voice, you know, but it's time. You know, we don't want you out there like that. We, we, they love you, man. Because I watched what y'all did. Yeah. I watched, I mean, again, after seeing your number of years,

I watched, as each performance went on, the band was singing more, and you were layering things a lot more. It wasn't them just carrying it. Yeah, yeah. And it was just, it was, it was, it was painful. It really was for all of us, you know, and that was due to his condition that a lot of us really didn't know about that, and he was really private.

and those matters. So, but in the end, you know, that is that. But my life's journey with Mace, I'm, like I said, living a dream, living my best life. Frank was my angel. Because he didn't have to say, he could say, hey man, nice to meet you, never see him again. He's my angel.

But he said, you play anything else? Yeah. And that changed everything. Everything. I could have said, no, I don't play. I'm like, okay, see you later. God, God touched us. Because you know how you meet somebody

and it's just this, wow, I feel like, kind of spirit. That's what we felt. That's what Frank and I felt. So, and he, you know, he knew this something. What is this? You can't go nowhere because something's saying something. And that's what it was, a blessing. To me, too, because it's a piece.

people's kind of a thing. It's hard to put anything over 40 years of love and affection that they've already given us. You know, so, but this is from the people, and it, and it is, it is like an icing on the cake. Now, I love you guys, John, like that, I work your music into the CNN thing. All the time, I slide it in. But I've always asked this question, people all across the country. What is it about your music that is special? And I've got little. literally a hundred different answers. So from your perspective, what is it that connects with people in such a unique way? And wife's got the grateful day and fish we got Frank and Bavillian to make. I think it's the work. It's always the work. The work you're always from Philadelphia

back in the 60th in the hippie days. It's that we've always done, what I consider people music, life music, stuff like... Susan Taylor called it Ultimate Love. Right on, right on, because it's more than just the man-woman kind of kind of like. The people react on We Are One and all that times are like it's just came out or something. Right. Like in church or something. Now I got to tell y'all, when you performed in Dallas with the Gap Band, you came out and said,

hey guys are working on a new album, the audience start laughing. They're like, yeah, right, go ahead and sing y'all go ahead and see y'all song. Don't need to know new stuff. So, but how does it feel, though, to stand on stage and you were singing, or the music starts, and you ain't have to sing. Yeah, that's right. They just start singing the whole song. Hard to beat that, brother, man. I mean, you know, awards, you know, as good as they are. It's hard to beat that. That's a great honor. That's a great honor.

When we were at the Monroe Service in Oakland, I had to keep the secret about the Grammy. because what happened was, and that's what I told y'all after his son made the announcement. And I had, again, I had been saying for years, they've never gotten a war. I had the video from the trumpet award. And I kept saying Deborah Lee. I'm like, y'all need to, when y'all going,

be it to the Tion's and finally happened. So I'm talking to Ron Gildyard and longtime music exec. and Ron went, are you sure? I said, Ron, I'm trying to tell you. Fais and Franklin, brother, they've never gotten a major award. He was like, you got, I said, dude, I'm telling you. So he goes to check. He was like, you were lying.

Like, I tried to tell you. So he calls Harvey Mason. He's like, listen, man, whatever y'all rules are, I don't care. Y'all got to make this happen. And so then when I got to call, that the voter taken place, out so I said I'm not going to say anything so that's why the memorial service when the Sun came out and said it I was like okay good not actually talking right on and that was that was something that again y'all didn't do stuff for

awards but I still felt that and I I've always said it Frankie Beverly maize to black people it's like the Grateful Dead and fish to white Yes, and that's what they used to say. Not only you, we heard that from other people, white folks as well. Said, y'all are that. And that's huge. You know how big them boys was? Right.

We lived out there. Like, I had never heard of fish. They had performed, like, in 20 years, I forgot one of those New Year's Eve. They announced a concert in the middle of somewhere, and that bad boy sold out in five minutes. Hey, man, Coliseum Grateful Dead, and they lived in the Bay Area. That's all about to say. They did. So I heard this, in fact, I saw them.

I used to go and see these bands, you know, all of them. But you're right, man. So how did y'all feel? All people who came through when finally the Grammys acknowledged, Bracky Beverly and Mayings their lifetime achieving award? You know what? Because it was almost provoked, kind of. We never cared.

You know, we didn't get them because what we got was from the community, from our people. That was bigger than any accolade, any award to us. You know, we got the trumpet award in lifetime achievement. 2010? Yeah, yeah. But we didn't really put too much into those things. Our thing was making people happy. And I think that's important because so many artists, actually, when I interviewed October London,

he said, when he finally won the Grammy, he was like, he said, okay, he won it. And so was that one thing a lot of artists really, really want, but to your point I think is important, you can win a Grammy or multiple Grammys, but will you have a connection with the audience? Yes. That's multi-generational, that will actually outlive you.

Yeah, that's a commercial award, you know, But it doesn't stand in concert, live concerts and when people really feel about you. You get that and you put it up and all of that. It's a great honor, of course. But to actually care, we just didn't. We got more from making people happy in the music, the concerts. You turned 78, correct?

I'm 77. 77. 77. Do you think about looking back 55 years? but do you think looking forward 55 years hundred years do you say to itself they're gonna still be jamming yeah to joy and pain yes yes yes to the wheels fall off I mean those songs will be played when I'm not here and oh you know you can't kill hits I don't think the generations are gonna allow maize to die I just don't

Because, like you said, you got all the generations that love Mays. But also I think it's because of how it makes us feel when you play it. Yeah. There's no, you can play Mays music at any gathering, wedding, funeral, birthday party, graduation. It's literally, as I think back to all the different groups, It's absolutely universal in its appeal to generations. And I can't think of another group that can do that.

Yeah, they got songs they'll dance too, but the maze joints, they ain't singing the lyrics. They sing the lyrics in clubs too before I let go. Yeah, like a concert. Which is the breakup song. That's the most funny thing. It's a breakup song. Yeah, about breaking up.

But it gets you up happy and dancing. It's what's hilarious. We're going to end it on that one. Rome, always a pleasure. Oh, man. I appreciate my brother. Yes, sir. Before I let go, one million copies.

And this couldn't have happened without our fans. You made this happen. You've made it one of the great dance songs. my community, weddings, parties, barbecues. We've heard it all over. So again, thank you to our fans.

We're going to continue the legacy that Frank wanted us to do and go. So again, thank you. to our fans. Big love. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts, all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week, I bring on an amazing guest.

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