#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Evolution Of Lynching. Virginia Fights Jan. 6 Lies. Black Unemployment Spike. MAGA & Jesse Jackson
Episode Date: March 10, 20263.9.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Evolution Of Lynching. Virginia Fights Jan. 6 Lies. Black Unemployment Spike. MAGA & Jesse Jackson A Mississippi civil rights group documented 70 modern-day lynch...ings in the South from 2000 to 2025, though historians say the last official lynching was in 1981. The founder of JULIAN, the non-profit behind the report, is here to discuss these findings. The economic slowdown is affecting the black unemployment rate alarmingly. Morgan Harper will be here to explain the February job numbers. Women- and minority-owned businesses were removed from the Texas Historically Underutilized Business Program in December, and are suing the Comptroller, Kelly Hancock, who argued he was ending a DEI program. And I have a lot to say about the MAGA folks who are pretending they cared about rev Jackson. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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A Mississippi Civil Rights Group has documented 70 modern-day lynchings in the South of 2000,
2020.
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From Mississippi Civil Rights Group says that 70 took place between 2000 and 2025.
The group is called Gilliam.
He's titled The Crimson Record identifies cases across seven states, Georgia, Texas, Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, and Mississippi.
It documents 70 instances of modern day lynchings in these southern states in the last 25 years.
The findings indicate the actual number could exceed 100 when suspicious deaths are taken into account.
Journal of us right now is Jill Colin Jefferson.
She's the founder of Julia.
She Jones us right now.
I'm glad to have you here.
So first and foremost, folks, explain your definition of a lynching because the average person
And it's thinking somebody hanging from a tree.
So walk us through that.
Okay.
So our definition of a modern day lynching is a discriminatory killing committed in the late 20th or early 21st centuries by more than one person carried out for an alleged offense with or without a legal trial or due process.
And our definition expands a definition to include deaths of trans people, deaths of indigenous,
women, dust of brown people and physically impaired people as well, not just black people.
Okay. And how did you go about documenting this?
So this was a long process. You know, the bulk of the work took 18 months, but this was really a
two-year process where we were talking to families. We were scouring newspapers and all the
public records. We looked in every single newspaper in every single county and every single
state that we studied. We looked on social media. We documented from conversations with forensic
pathologists, from conversations with former FBI agents, for conversations with forensic psychologists.
And so we did all of this work to document these cases and then analyze each of the cases and figure
out if it fit in one of three categories, whether it was a modern day lynching, whether it was
another type of hate crime or whether it was a suspicious death.
Gotcha.
And were you using official autopsies or, again, how was it decided?
In a lot of instances, we did use official autopsy reports and police records.
But what I will say is that we did not always come out with the same conclusions that those records came out with.
So, for example, in the Raynard Johnson case, which was the first modern day lynching recorded in Mississippi, that happened in the year 2000.
And the FBI found that that was a suicide.
We found the complete opposite after investigating that case and talking with the same medical examiner who had done the FBI's medical examination.
And what he told us was that the facts that we gave him were not given to him at the time.
And he said if he'd known those facts, he would not have been able to rule it to suicide, that he would not have been able to rule it to suicide, that he would not.
not have able to tell if it was a lynching or suicide. And so we uncovered different things
in cases that the police have not uncovered as well. Gotcha. And what do you hope folks
take away from this? I hope people take away the urgency of this moment, that this is a time
where these cases are rising due to the radicalization online, due to the racialized rhetoric,
rhetoric and anti-immigrant rhetoric that's going on.
The number of modern-day lynchings has not decreased
in recent years, and we expected to continue to increase.
And so people need to know that these cases are still happening
so that they can watch their backs
and understand what's really going on in America.
My panel joining us right now,
Felma Anderson, created the public opinion court,
as well as authors shut up and prosecute out of Dallas,
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Thank you so much for doing this. And my question is, as you connect the past to the present, does the type of formula that you're using, meaning that we also may have to go back and revise some of the stories and accounts from prior times before 2000?
So, no, we don't have to go back to historical lynchings, but I would suggest that we go back at least to 1981 and look at the modern day lynchings.
And so the reason why I say that is because at a certain point in history, especially contemporary history, when you get into the 70s and the 80s, the nature of lynching started to change, which led to this changing definition.
No longer was it just like the KKK committing an act.
It's people online who get radicalized and then get offline and go out and do something.
And so this new definition is sort of met for new times.
So it's no need to go back to the historical lynchings to change that definition or look at those.
I would say, though, that there should be more examination of the deaths of indigenous women and trans women that go back further than what we've seen.
studied.
Elmo?
Scott.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for your hard work.
What begs the question with your hard work and the results is that throughout your research,
were there any opportunities to go back to those local jurisdictions or even the feds to say,
hey, take another look at this.
We think this was a lynching.
It was never defined as that, but we think it merits more investigation.
Did you have any circumstances like that?
Yes, we did. So in the Willie Andrew Jones Jr. case, for example, that's Willie,
who was a 21-year-old black man, found hanging from a tree in Scott County, Mississippi in 2018.
And with that case, we solved that case from start to finish and found out that it was a lynching.
It had been ruled a suicide. And we took our findings to the district attorney and gave him all of our findings.
We also won an $11 million civil suit in that case.
But the DA, even though the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation reopened the case, the DA still has refused to charge the lynchers.
And these are people who tried to lynch someone before they lynched Willie and have threatened to lynch people since.
Yet they're still free.
We also are going to the FBI about Raynard Johnson's case.
And there are certain circumstances in other cases where we are contacting local authorities.
Thank you.
You know, I also think that they're anti-lynching laws in most states, in most jurisdictions
in the country, although you never, it's very rare that someone gets prosecuted for lynching,
but your work could be the impetus for something like that.
Am I right about that?
Every state, including and the District of Columbia, have anti-lynching laws.
Well, states have hate crimes laws that.
I don't specifically talk about lynching and don't really apply to the lynching context as well.
They don't map over very well.
But what Congress did in 2012 was passed the Anti-Lenching Act, the Emmett Till Anti-Lenching Act.
Unfortunately, that legislation is toothless.
It doesn't really do anything to help solve or prevent these cases from happening.
So what we have in this report of Crimson Record are several policy recommendations
for what needs to happen on the Emmett Till Anti-Lenching Act.
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what needs to happen on the state level as well.
I will say that we did bring an anti-lynching bill as well as bills in Mississippi to increase the requirements for coroners.
Because in Mississippi to be a coroner, all you have to have is a high school diploma or equivalent and pass a test.
And so we introduced the anti-lynching bill there as well as requirements for raising the standards for coroners and both of those bills died in committee.
What I can say is that we're working now on the federal level with a congressman to bring amendments to the 2022 Emmettill Anti-Lenching Act that we do hope will make this substantive legislation actually impactful.
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
Good luck with your future work on this important subject.
Thank you.
All right, Ben.
Jill, where can be able to go look at the report?
At Julianfreedom.org.
It's under our press and media.
It says databases and resources.
and just quickly alongside the report is the first ever
national modern day lynching database that covers these states
and so you guys can have a look at that as well.
Julianfredom.org
And just the last question.
So we were talking about victims.
Who is the number one victim?
Is it black men?
Yes.
The majority of the cases are black men
and the majority of the people who were killed were killed.
and their teens and 20s.
The youngest person was 14 and the oldest was 60.
All right, then.
All right, then. All right, well, appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much for having me, Roland.
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Well, a lot of people were surprised and shocked
when the Atlanta Hawks announced
if they were going to have Magic City Night
in their state farm arena on March 16th.
You've had several NBA players
who said that this was an affront to women.
Hawks said, hey, whatever, we're moving forward.
They had a lot of people who are,
I saw this killer Mike, made some comments like,
yo, we don't give a damn what y'all think.
But the city's good with it.
Y'all should be good with it and shut up.
NBA was like, no.
That ain't happening, boo.
NBA dropped this statement right here.
The NBA today announced that it has canceled
the Atlanta Hawks' plan in arena promotion
for the game on March 16th.
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver issued the following statement.
We became aware of the Atlanta Hawks scheduled promotion.
We reached out to Hawks' leadership
to better understand their plans and rationale.
While we appreciate the team's perspective
and their desire to move forward,
we have heard significant concern
from a broad array of league stakeholders,
including fans, partners, and employees.
I believe canceling this promotion
is the right decision for the broader NBA community.
All right.
Yeah, this was always quite interesting.
It was supposed to take place a week from today.
And like I said, you had...
A number of people who were saying, no, no, you know, we ain't down with it.
Luke Cornett, who was with the San Antonio Spurs, was actually asked about this,
and this is what he said about that playing night.
During these times, speaking out on social issues as an athlete,
kind of becoming few and farther between, there's just a lot of volatility, you know, out there out there.
What made you passionate about putting that in writing and, you know, standing on your morals?
I mean, I really just saw the statement last week in the announcement by the Hawks.
And just in terms of, like, yeah, the public voice as it pertained to, I feel like it didn't really represent what I know, you know, myself and a lot of others throughout the NBA felt.
So I think I did just, you know, want to make sure that that part of the discussion is expressed.
And, I mean, it comes with, you know, people like criticism and stuff like that.
I think that's, you know, part of parcel of, like, you know, why people might be hesitant to do so.
But I think actually trying to get the conversation started and able to have is something that's important to be able to try to, you know,
helping sure that the league is kind of something that everyone is, you know, wanting to represent and an environment that you want to have.
Has the league itself reached out to you, or have you heard from them?
Not really in the aftermath.
But beforehand, I spoke with some people in the league just to kind of see what the status of it was to make sure, you know,
I was kind of like up to date on the situation.
But, yeah, since reaching out, yeah.
So there were some who said that,
and matter of fact, Al Horford, who's also NBA player,
Al Horford, back Cornett up saying he agreed with him as well.
And it was, it's been really interesting, really interesting.
Matter of fact, go to my iPad.
this is on Twitter.
Legendary Magic City
Dancer says Luke Cornett
needs to visit before criticizing.
Okay.
You see right here says
this podcast here
called
says that
Atlanta Hawks, Atlanta Falcons,
Magist City is part of the culture
of the team.
Let me go ahead and pull.
Let me go ahead.
This is speak easy.
Play some of this.
Go ahead.
All right.
It's bigger than you.
Yo, this is a
cultural theme, right?
When you talk about Atlanta,
you talk about the Atlanta Falcons,
you talk about the Atlanta Hawks.
Magic City is part of their,
like the strip clubs,
it's part of their culture.
And a lot of people
that came through the ranks of playing
in Atlanta, rappers,
entertainers,
they talk about it.
There's people that go to Magic City,
you know what,
to have wings, right?
Yes.
So it's like,
we make this is a bad thing.
He's making the big thing.
I'm going there to have breath and thys and
can I play devil's advocate here?
I don't know with that.
Can I play devil's advocate here?
If we're talking about the
culture of certain cities.
That's the culture.
The culture in Las Vegas is
is, Nevada is a state
where legal prostitution is allowed,
where brothels are actually a thing.
Does that mean we should be promoting them
with our professional sports league?
If the Vegas Raiders were just like,
yo, go down to pink pony club bunny ranch or whatever,
like that'd be a problem.
Even though it is a part of the culture,
like it's a different.
What's the problem?
Let's hold it real quick.
None of our home was like,
yo, we want sort of brothel tonight.
Nobody does all that.
Well, my friends don't.
I'm saying that's a part of the Las Vegas culture, though.
A Las Vegas culture thing is like gambling.
Vegas.
Of course.
Okay.
So that's the main thing.
But Atlanta's...
All right.
So that was one of those debates.
And I saw, of course, Cameron weighed in.
Protesting is this, nigga.
I'm protesting with you, nigga.
Fuck you talking about.
Protests are with that encyclopedia you wrote.
I ain't listen to half that shit.
Fuck you talking about all that.
big ass worse. You know we're going to be in magic scene one day?
Ti, ex-idiously.
Fucking you're talking about, nigger.
All that, what the fuck?
All right.
So, all quite interesting.
Let's go to my panel.
Thelma.
We have Thelma.
Is she there?
Come on, y'all.
Y'all, y'all got to get Thelma's signal straight.
All right, because I know she got something to say.
Let me go to Scott first.
Scott,
Folk in Yale holler screamed that Magic City
is a part of the culture of the Hawks,
the NBA, as well as
in the city of Atlanta.
Well, let's be real clear.
Houston and Dallas
really was the strip capital of the world
with the men's club.
Tampa, Florida.
No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about the men's club
where it originated.
Yeah?
First of all, ain't no NBA team in Tampa.
Okay, they barely
They barely got a baseball team there, okay?
That's the strip capital of America.
But what I'm saying is when you talk about,
I wouldn't know.
You probably know more than I will.
I probably do.
Yeah, you probably do.
That's right.
If I look at the men's club in Houston and Dallas in terms of,
it ain't like the Dallas Maverick and the Houston Rock
is going to say, yo, let's have a men's club night.
When you're talking about an NBA team,
we're talking about a $10 billion enterprise.
We're talking about,
advertisers, sponsors.
I'm surprised it took this long
for the NBA to say,
no, no, hell no.
Man, let me, I got so many thoughts.
I've been to Magic City,
had a ball with my frat brothers and friends
and so forth and so on.
It is part of the under-culture,
if you will, of Atlanta,
as well as the NBA,
but that doesn't mean you've got to celebrate it.
I mean, let me,
Let's just talk for a minute, rolling.
What were they going to do to celebrate the Magic City women?
Were they going to do a Hall of Fame or the top 25 in the history of Magic City?
No, they were going to bring out a half-time, polls.
They were going to go to have, they were going to have, they were going to have some.
Tell me what they were going to do.
They were going to have some portable poles rolled out.
Right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, the short answer is, no, and it shouldn't even gotten this.
far.
Because see,
what the NBA
is trying to
clean up over the
20 or 30 years
because the
last NBA
All-Star game
I went to
was in Vegas
and some of
the raunchiness
and ratchet
things I saw
in public men's
rooms and in
public areas,
quite frankly,
no one,
no wonder
they went to
Utah later.
But my
point is the
underbelly of the
NBA is that
under culture
right there.
And it's the
NBA players
and several
athletes,
not just the NBA,
They have beautiful women.
They have babies out of wedlock by five to ten, some of them.
They have them, and they have the NBA teams that set aside rooms, family rooms,
because the NBA players have so many kids by so many different women.
That's the underbelly of the NBA.
And the commissioner needs to clean that up,
but we certainly don't need to celebrate it.
You can't tell people what to do,
but you don't need to be celebrating by Magic City.
Come on, man.
Come on.
I'm trying to find it.
And I'm not glorifying women who take their clothes off for tips.
And so I'm not glorifying it, nor am I criticizing them.
I'm saying that the NBA ought not publicly, I don't know, celebrate that part of our culture.
Well, again, it's not the NBA.
It was a team.
But clearly, Thelma, they were like, Atlanta, seriously.
I love the comment from Adam Silver.
We reached out to the team to get, I love this part here.
We reached out to Hawke's leadership to better understand their plans and rationale.
I'm sure that conversation that was like, man, what the hell y'all doing?
And what I think back to was Lim and Peppaloo, when he got in trouble,
who are going to Magic City
to get some lemon pepper wings
during when they were supposed to be in a bubble
during the pandemic.
So I'm like, y'all really are so invested
in the strip club culture
that you thought that you was going to create this idea
of a collaboration that wasn't a collaboration.
But because of the name,
people are going to automatically think that,
oh, the NBA now going
towards the strip club? I mean, just make it obvious. Why don't you? So, but I do agree. I think it's a level
of professionalism that you have to have when you're making all of this money to not think. I'm like,
when nobody thinking about what this was going to look like and how this was going to come back
and how everybody was going to be getting a phone call because it's not professional on any level.
Do that outside.
Y'all know y'all always be on flyers anyway
with these nightclubs when y'all are doing things.
Do it that way.
Do not create this atmosphere
as if it was accepted when it wasn't.
I, I mean, come on.
Magic City Night at an NBA game.
I mean, I mean, what are they going to pass?
When they're going to pass out plaques?
What are they going to pass out, you know,
you know, thick asses in jerseys.
I mean, exactly what was, you know.
And listen, you heard that brother Tom by, you know,
some folks, yeah, they go there for the wings.
I remember, I ain't going to name the NBA player,
but I was in Dallas.
It was like, hey, man, meetings at the men's club for a steak.
I said, we in Dallas.
It's steakhouses everywhere.
I said, I don't need titty.
my steak. I was like, we can meet at a act. If we're going to go to a steakhouse,
we can meet at a steakhouse. I don't need to, I said, come on y'all. I said, the men's club
steak ain't that damn good. You know, but come on. And like, right, if you want some lemon
lemon pepper wings, you can go to Wing Stop. You ain't got to go to Magic City. Come on, y'all.
But Omiccon, go ahead. Go ahead. Wow. Yeah, I mean, Scott talked about, you know, being the underculture.
The underculture doesn't need to be the over-culture.
Like, what was the desire to want to do that
and also want to do that during Women's History Month?
Like, where is the mindset as it relates to that?
If we're supposed to have family organizations,
I mean, we already got the kids watching their parents
at the game gambling on the joints, you know,
on a free throw and who's going to get the next rebound.
It's like, we're already doing enough to soil the culture
of the fan experience within the spot.
Now you want to bring this type of element to it.
Shout out to Luke Cornett, you know,
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You look at their entire administration,
from him to HexF, just run down the list.
Like, they've almost made misogy
even more mainstream than it's already has been.
And it really, Roland has me thinking to,
I was watching your coverage of Jesse Jackson's funeral,
and the speech Reverend Al Sharpton gave,
and he was like,
the things that we're doing to ourselves,
you know, running out here, calling ourselves, you know,
the B words and N words and the stuff we're putting in the music.
It's like the things that we just make public in the culture
really should not be made public.
And I think that this should be a real opportunity for us
to step back and really ask ourselves,
what are we doing here?
Because this should never even got approved by anybody
on the Hawks or, and so I'm glad Silver shut it down
because it's ridiculous.
I'm just trying to understand.
I'm just trying to understand how that meeting happened.
I mean, okay, I'm just trying to understand.
All right, so I'm just trying to understand.
All right, we in the meeting.
Hey, y'all, we need some promotional nights in March.
Man, let me see.
Yo, I got an idea.
Did y'all catch that Hulu documentary on Magic City?
Oh
You know what
I think we should honor
The cultural institution
That it is
At halftime
And wait a minute
And somebody in the meeting
Yeah, dog, you're right
That's a good-ass idea
Right
Oh, we could have some
Limited Edition, magic
City jersey.
Yes.
Oh, let's
see here. Matter of fact,
we could sell some Magic
City jerseys
along
with some Magic City Daisy
Dukes.
And then marketing
you know what? I think
no.
Get them on the phone.
I like, somebody like,
oh, we're going to make it rain that night.
I mean, what?
What's the
merchandise being sold in the arena on Magic City Night.
Oh, my God.
I'm just saying, who's going to be on, right, like, okay, is it a halftime presentation?
I mean, are we going to have polls in the concourse?
Man, listen.
That's right.
I'm just, I'm with it.
Put them out there.
Put them out there.
Of course, you're, of course, you're with it.
That's why y'all have y'all Kaepa Morehouse reyield and Magic City.
But here's the thing, Roland, why did the commissioner, in all seriousness,
why did the commissioner have to use his time to call the Atlanta halls,
the leadership of Atlanta Hall?
Easy.
To have a discussion with them about Magic City.
Because when they got-
Night was something that they should do that's consistent with the best of the NBA.
Because when they got criticized.
Because when they got criticized.
the hawk said we still gonna do it and the league was like i'd be damn now you're gonna
everybody's ignit the league was like now you gonna make me have to do this right so for all y'all
make me deal with you now so for all y'all who bought your tickets and y'all were going to the
Atlanta game next Monday uh the game is still going on but ain't no magic city night at the state farm
Marina on March 16th.
All right. Let's,
Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy.
Only in Atlanta.
Only in Atlanta.
And let me go and let me just go ahead and say
as a, as the Vice President for Digital
for the National Association of Black Journalists,
when we have our convention, when we unveiled
today, we unveiled today our convention logo.
We unveiled our
all of our stuff today.
We announced our committee chairs.
We did all that sort of stuff.
You can see the logo right here.
This is going to be our logo.
Our Revolution, Truth, Power, and Black Journalism.
There will not be a Magic City Night at NABJ.
Those look like Pol.
I'm just letting y'all know.
No, it's not.
I'd let y'all know there will not be a Magic City night
when we have NABJ in Atlanta.
12th through the 16th, I'm just saying.
All right, let's talk about the economy, y'all.
And that is, man, the jobs report came out on Friday,
and I see why Donald Trump trying to blow up Iran
because the economy absolutely sucks.
The jobs that we are losing,
and it's beyond hilarious to listen to these maggots
talk about how great Donald Trump is doing with the economy
when that is not the case, y'all.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics released their February report
and just showed how bad it.
is labor force lost 92,000 jobs.
Overall unemployment rate goes up 4.4%.
Black unemployment rate going higher and higher, 7.7%.
Yeah, that's real, okay?
Black men, it dropped to 7%, but overall it went up,
and we see what's going on, y'all.
Black women, it jumped to 7.1%.
Morgan Harper is the Director of Policy and Advocacy
at the American Economic Labor Party Project.
She joins us right now.
Morgan at the airport, at least, Morgan,
you not have the deal with the TSA there.
My wife was in Houston yesterday.
Five-hour wait lines at the airport because of TSA.
Yeah, it was crazy.
Maga, real quiet about this job report in February, huh?
Yeah.
I mean, this is a very, very bad jobs report.
And, you know, rolling all the caveat, it's just one month, sure.
And we've heard, you know, some actually.
per se that, but it's a very, very bad month to see the only piece of the economy, as we've talked
about month after month that has been gaining jobs, which is health care, to now also be losing
jobs. We saw health care jobs go down. That is just the latest sign that there are real problems
that continue to bubble up to the surface. And, you know, if you dig into this, you'll see that
there was a strike going on. Kaiser Permanente that has a big presence on the West Coast health care
system, had workers striking. So that's going to be the official expert.
of this. But again, why is it that we have an economy where the only growth is happening
through the health care sector? That is a problem. Manufacturing down, warehouse down,
transportation down, construction down. So we'll continue to see, you know, how this all develops
next month too. But this is really troubling. I think the other, you know, the figures you pointed
out about black unemployment, very, very disconcerting that black women are hemorrhaging jobs right
now, the federal jobs continue to go down. That's something we have to really be sounding the alarm
about. And then just overall, I mean, you know, the things that don't get reported here. And we're
starting to see more regularity with the reports of layoffs, block, big tech company, thought of
as, you know, not some like real risky, adventurous type of tech company, payment systems,
cash app, you know, these are well-known brands to a lot of us. They were laying off thousands of
people, you know, last week that they announced. And so we're going to be.
to continue to see some elements of job loss that are driven by things like AI for sure,
but a lot of this is self-inflicted harm by administration that has no coherent economic
policy agenda. I thought this is supposed to be the golden years. Oh, my God. It's going to be
fantastic. Yeah, that's what we were told. And instead, what we have is a real pay-to-play
administration. If you have the money that you can get a meeting with the White House,
then you can get potentially your deal through or get your industry to not face the same level
of regulation. Something that we've talked about, you know, actually we were just talking about
during the State of the Union about these institutional investors with housing. Speaking of
Atlanta, big issue in Atlanta, they're now trying to lobby to make sure that they don't,
they aren't allowed to build as many homes to rent, lobbying Congress right now because they think
that they can get away with it, that we see today that the DOJ
anti-trust division, ticket master case, huge thing that venues across the country,
people who own independent venues have been calling for change here, that they've negotiated
some backroom deal that now a federal judge today had to say, hey, you all don't get to
negotiate some deal, not talk about it, have a day of trial today, and then expect that I'm
going to be okay with that. We are so into unprecedented territory with things coming out of this
administration, and the real consequences are ones that we, actual people out here, are going to
continue to be living with. Oh, absolutely. And you got people like Charles Gasparino who are going,
oh, this war with Iran is going to be great. He's going to take the mullahs out and oil's going to be
down to $40 a barrel. Like, dude, I don't know what will hell world you're living in.
Yeah, the gas prices are good. Well, one, yeah, agreed. I mean, there's no, there's no strategic
reason to be entering the war in Iran. A little outside my area, but I don't think you need to be
some specialist in foreign policy to know that that makes no sense and we don't have any track record.
with managing these situations well.
And then, yeah, I mean, the direct consumer impact to increase gas prices.
I mean, in Ohio, we saw pretty much overnight.
It was going up by 60 cents a gallon, et cetera.
So, you know, with folks already trying to balance so many costs and the increase in cost,
beef, different groceries, utilities, to now have gas be this other thing that had been
stable for a while that were now seeing spike because of this ridiculous intervention in Iran.
doesn't make any sense, and it's only going to continue to really hurt people, the bottom line.
Absolutely.
All right.
Morgan, catch your flight.
We appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks, Roland.
Talk to you soon.
This is not Omicongo, a great economy, and the Republicans can try to speed it as much as they can,
but that dog won't hunt.
Yeah, and every single day, it's getting worse.
As a lot of people say, the biggest sign of how poorly the economy is doing, we're seeing it every
single day on billboards when we look at the gas prices. And it's, you know, around my way,
over here, you know, it goes up every single day. And I'm just looking at every sector of the
economy, every sector of this country is struggling in some way, shape, or form. And we know that
these gas prices are going to allow for people to not be able to get to work. So they're probably
going to be able, they're probably going to get laid off as well. And all of this talk. And I mean,
even today, Scott Besson, oh, yeah, well, once this conflict is over, prices are going to go down
and they're going to go down rapidly.
Like, they have no idea what they're doing.
And every single day the American people continue to get squeezed.
And I'm hoping, I'm hoping, rolling that is finally enough for many of these guys who put Trump
in office, these farmers, all of these guys who talk about having maybe a little bit of
buyers remorse or whatever, but still stuck with him to finally rise up.
I mean, this is time to be voting people out of office.
This is time to be boycotting some companies that are supporting him.
There are ways that Americans can respond to this that are going to make the administration
stop some of its ignorant and disrespectful
and just really problematic actions.
But if people just kind of say,
oh, this is messed up and just, you know,
sigh and just go on about their business,
Trump is going to continue to destroy this country.
And we can talk about recessions,
but I'm seeing a depression coming with what they're talking about.
I feel like we've been in a recession,
even though you have to wait several months,
but I'm looking at what's happened.
Now I feel like we're already there,
and the depression is on the way.
This man does not know what he's doing,
and we're all suffering because of it.
I totally agree with the part about this being a depression because when you look at the economy and how this administration really does not care.
They did not come into office to stabilize or grow the economy.
They came with one thing in mind, which was to make themselves richer and make the people who support them richer.
and that's one of my biggest concerns is the amount of fraud that is taking place that is draining the taxpayers of this country while it is enriching the individuals who are committing this under this administration.
I mean, giving someone $140 plus million after starting a business eight days before giving it to them is a clear indication that this administration not only is reckless, that they don't care about, even.
the individuals that put them into office.
And it's very concerning, even more so to see that health care is being affected, not only just African-Americans,
but now I'm thinking like, okay, are we going to have to worry about the actual trade companies at some point?
Because the way this economy is going in a way that they don't care,
and they're just doing whatever they want, like starting a useless, unnecessary war,
is in return to diminish the United States.
in a whole and its economic power.
Scott?
Yeah, you know what I find really amazing,
even for the Trump administration,
is they inherited a pretty good economy.
We had inflation, don't get me wrong,
because that was the COVID investment
that led to inflation.
But the other numbers, the other economic numbers,
were pretty stable and pretty low.
Employment, we had low unemployment,
you had high manufacturing,
jobs were on the rise. And all the economic indicators, other than inflation, and that was coming
down at the end, we're in good shape. People were feeling it, but, you know, there seemed to be
some progress there. What's ironic to me and hypocritical is that Donald Trump ran on building
a strong economy on day one. Now we're a year in, and it's not so much his economic decisions
that really blow you away. It's his own economic terror.
that is driving the economy in a negative way that he is driving.
The tariffs are making prices go up, not down because we're paying that text, right?
The oil prices were down.
Now they're going up because we voluntarily joined a war with Israel.
By the way, we have different strategic pieces as to why we're in that war, but they're
not consistent with Israel, quite frankly.
But again, more economic terrorism.
The administration is affirmatively damaging and killing a once decent economy, not perfect.
And yet he campaigned on just the opposite.
And now in office, he continues to talk about how great the economy is, but the numbers don't match and his policies don't match.
And it's causing a lot of economic havoc on not just day-to-day people, but the economic numbers themselves.
We're up to close to 4.5% unemployment now.
Interest rates still haven't come all the way down,
and yet you have the rhetoric of Donald Trump and the administration,
and then you have the political and economic reality
that stare at us in the face.
They don't match, and yet MAGA and the Republicans continue to support
what is economically nonsensical.
That just blows me away.
Notwithstanding how what you feel about the administration
and what they've done in the past and what you predicted they would do,
that is still some incredible stuff to really deal with
and how you fix it, who knows?
They won't be able to because they keep killing it.
Well, but they claim that they are just so amazing
when it comes to the economy.
And let me just remind people.
Just rhetoric.
You think the most losses of American jobs
under Republican presidents
in the largest gains among Democratic presidents.
That's just a fact.
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Hope this coming home, and it wouldn't have happened without all of you.
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One person who ain't going to be there?
Punk-ass Donald Trump.
That's right.
Valerie Jared, who's president of the foundation,
was on MSNBC with the weekend,
and she says, yeah, he ain't invited.
She said, now, he can come later if he want to check the facility out,
but he ain't invited to the opening on June 18.
Let's go to my panel.
on.
Felma.
So here's a deal.
Former President Joe Biden,
invited. Former President Bill Clinton,
invited. Former President George W. Bush,
invited. Trump, punk, ass, ain't invited.
Access should not have been granted to this country with him anyway.
So the fact that he's not invited,
it's very clear as to why this man literally just posted
one of the most egregious, disgusting, deplorable things
that any president can do to a former president and his wife.
You don't just play with a man.
But when you play with that man's wife, his rib,
and you think you're going to come to his center
that is dedicated to him that was built on his back
and the back of his wife's work?
Oh, uh-uh.
Black men play about a lot of things,
but don't play with that rib,
because you're going to meet the person that you desired,
but you ain't going to meet him in a way that you think that you're going to meet him.
So him being denied access is necessary, is needed.
He, one, cannot maintain a level of composure to be invited to an event of this magnitude.
No, you don't need to come.
You need to sit out there and twiddle your little orange Cheeto and your depressed hair.
because everything on you and in you is a depressing atmosphere.
So, no, we don't need that kind of sin
and that kind of gloom coming to the Barack Obama.
Like, no, we don't need that.
We don't need poopy pants there, Scott.
It's hard to invite the current president
given not just the postings of the racist postings
about Barack Obama and Michelle Obama,
but also his ongoing,
criticism of
prior Democratic administrations,
Biden, the posting of pictures
in the White House with him writing
like he's tweeting and writing
negative things under their
pictures and what have you.
But also he removed
he also removed Obama's portrait
from the White House and I think stuck it under
a staircase. Yeah,
yeah. And so this is purposeful.
It's intentional. And he
doesn't expect an invite. It's hard for
anyone to invite Donald Trump anywhere, quite frankly, because of the things that he said in,
the crassness, the crudeness, and really the criminality of his personality.
And so I'm not surprised at that.
I will say one thing about the postings, the racist postings with Michelle and Barack Obama.
But what I think a lot of people in the media missed wasn't so much that he posted it.
They got that part.
But the fact that he would not apologize for it being posting, that there was not.
no criminal, there was no coaching or termination of the staffer who allegedly posted it,
if a staffer did post it, but the fact that it didn't bother him that it was posted,
but more importantly, that it didn't bother him that someone on his staff, if that was true,
thought it was okay to post it and thought it would be okay for him to post it.
That's the real demoralizing part, because that goes to the human condition or the morality
of someone, and as I've always said on this program and others, that this president,
and is immoral, but he's amoral also.
And it doesn't matter.
One's not better than the other.
And so there's really no hope for him.
He probably, if you invited him,
he probably wouldn't show up anyway to that crowd,
nor would he be welcomed.
And so I'm not surprised if he's not being invited.
He probably likes the fact.
Look for him on June 18th to post something about the opening
and be very negative and racist about it.
I'll bet you a quarter.
He does.
He can help himself.
The man is uncouth, oh, make it.
Congo. Yeah.
Yeah, I was going to say, you know, Valley Jarrett's mindset was, you know, hey, if you stay petty,
you don't have to get petty, right? But this isn't even petty. This is just the right thing to do.
Like, I've watched interviews with Michelle Obama, read her, you know, works over the years.
And, you know, you're talking about as a mother, like, forget the stuff that he said about them,
which is ignorant and racist. She talks about, you know, the target that he put on her children,
you know, and having to deal with all of that. I mean, the man posted their address at one point.
And somebody went towards that area and came to D.C., you know, to go to their house.
So this is a man who belongs on no presidential platform.
And I can't imagine any of these former presidents inviting him anywhere to be quite honest.
And even if Barack Obama was probably trying to be like a little magnanimous and be like, well, I should do it in a spirit.
Michelle Obama was probably like, if he's coming, I ain't coming.
So he didn't really have a choice at the end of the day, even if you wanted to.
But these are two individuals who have carried themselves from beginning to now.
with dignity. And as far as I can tell, Barack Obama is the only former president who is actively
speaking up and working to challenge what Trump is doing in this White House, whether he's working
with Eric Hold on, this redistricting, with all of these things that people thought would never be done.
Barack Obama is engaged. He's in the game. And lastly, we have to be mindful of going to Scott's
point. One of the reasons we're in this war right now is because Trump is so obsessive on doing
everything Obama did that he got rid of the Iran nuclear deal that Obama's administration.
and even though he had a better one on the table still decided to go to war.
So this guy just respects the Obama's legacy in every way, shape, or form, and he has no
business being in their space.
Oh, absolutely.
And so I'm real clear.
Don't nobody want to see his think ass there?
Don't nobody want to hear him speak?
And so he can just keep moving.
He can just keep moving.
Ain't no, listen, listen, it's some family members.
as I got who I own invites
to cookout.
It's real. It's some family
members who can't come.
So we know this fool can't come.
We know
he's insane.
So I'm like, say,
to all, keep him moving.
Anybody trying to talk to you. Don't nobody want to see you.
And so, yeah,
just keep on moving along.
So we're good.
It'll be a good time without that fool
being present.
So to me, that is a wise, wise decision.
All right, going to a break.
We come back.
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Republicans in Texas, all they wanted the white men
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Okay, so on Friday, the Orange One had a meeting at the White House
to discuss name, image, and likeness.
Now, all these big conferences, the NCAA,
they want the federal government to weigh in
because they are tired of the power being in the hands of these athletes
when it comes to getting paid.
So, Cheeto Man convened this whole deal,
And it was absolutely nonsensical where he talked about he was going to sign an executive order that was going to govern this.
Y'all, he don't have that power.
He does not have the power to govern college athletics.
All right, this is that fool's hit.
The amount of money being spent and lost by otherwise very successful schools is astounding just in a short period of time.
It's only going to get worse.
so we have to save college sports and save, I believe, colleges.
Ultimately, we have to go through, I guess we have to go through.
I'd do an executive order.
I'd love to do that.
I'll probably do it anyway.
We'll do an executive order.
We'll see how it works because it would be a really nice, I have a really nice, simple idea.
They are canceling golf.
They're canceling wrestling.
They're canceling.
They're canceling.
Even basketball, I thought that would be maybe immune.
in trouble. And it's all going to football, but ultimately football is going to be the worst
laggard at all. It's not going to be affordable. And it's going to take down practically
every college, in my opinion, it's going to take down virtually every college. Flat lie, flat lie.
All right. So then he's complaining about NIL. And then the Supreme Court comes up.
So the idiot had to be reminded, it was a 9-0 decision for...
And it's a mess.
It's a mess.
And I don't know whether or not that decision was appealed.
Was that decision ever appealed?
Does anyone know?
Because I heard it was not appealed.
I believe the House settlement is being litigated now because it violates the title.
No, but was it appealed, the decision?
The House settlement, I think...
The original decision.
by the judge from California. Was that appeal?
Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I misunderstood.
Yeah, the answer is no. It was settled because it was, I think, the third case. Why didn't somebody appeal it?
The prior case, which is Alston versus the NCA, was appealed to the Supreme Court,
and the Supreme Court found NIO against the college position to defend the old system.
So that's, I think the answer is the antitrust piece is the inherent problem in trying to create caps and limits.
That's it. So the Supreme Court was responsible for this?
I'm not the one who's going to say that. I'm not the one who's going to say that. I'm not bold enough to say that, but I'll at least acknowledge
the cross. Nine nothing. Nine nothing. Was the Supreme Court responsible for this?
Nine nothing and Kavanaugh supported.
That's a shame. It's a shame. Yes, sir, please.
A lot of people were talking at this thing. We're going to pull up this Nick Sabin soundbite,
which to me I thought was also pretty hilarious.
And see, so what these guys are complaining about,
they're all complaining about how, oh, my goodness, this is so bad,
you know, it's so bad, all these schools and what's going on,
and this is just so unfair.
So listen to this.
Life, when we had the ball trying to get a first down,
when they had the ball trying to get off the field on third down.
So this is an unlikely.
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I'm talking about football, basketball, Olympic sports, revenue, non-revenue.
It doesn't matter.
You know, my goal as a coach for my players, for our players, was to help them be more successful
in life, that we would create an atmosphere and environment that would help them through
personal development, academic support, 668 degrees and 17 years.
at Alabama and helped them develop a career as a football player.
That was our goal so that they were creating value in life
and we were preparing them for their future past athletics.
So what happened?
You know, in this current system that we have,
that became impossible to do
because people, instead of making decisions about creating value for their future,
they were making decisions about how much money could they make
at whichever school they could go to or transfer to.
So I think we have a challenge here today about the ramifications of this current system
on how it helps players be successful in their future
and how we can impact and create a system that will help and preserve the opportunity
for student athletes to be able to have success in their future beyond athletics.
So we need to develop an effective system of revenue sharing,
authentic name, image, and likeness, authentic being you have marketing value, which now we have
collectives, which just create opportunities, which just become pay for play.
Eligibility issues where we have guys playing six, seven, and eight years.
So you have 25 and 26-year-old people playing against 18 and 19-year-olds, which is not healthy.
Transfer rules.
We have over 4,000 people in the portal.
Fans don't like it.
Support groups don't like it.
It's not really healthy for players in graduation to transfer several times in your career.
You really put yourself in a pickle in terms of your ability to graduate.
So I think we need to come up with the system,
and we obviously have to do it with the president's leadership
and also with Congress probably, whether it's antitrust legislation or whatever it is,
to allow student athletes in all sports, including women's and Olympic sports,
enhance their quality of life while going to college, but still provide opportunity to advance
themselves beyond their athletic career, which is what the philosophy of college athletics...
All right, so let me help you all out with something, all right?
Y'all just need to understand what's going on here.
There's a guy named Walter Byers, and Walter Byers for a long time, for a long time, and Walter Byers for a long
time led the NCAA.
And
Walter Byers, again,
this is the guy, y'all,
who led the NCAA.
I want to repeat this again.
Walter Byers led the
NCAA.
Walter Byers wrote a book.
This is,
if you go to Amazon, this is
the book. Walter Byers
and the NCAA, power
amateurism and growing
controversy in big time college sports.
He laid out in the book
that basically they are pro players.
He laid out in the book.
This is the man who ran the system.
A few years ago, Taylor Branch,
the historian, did an e-book
and the e-book was called the cartel.
I had him on my Washington Watch show
and he talked about it.
He talked about, and he talked about it.
In the book, he wrote that the phrase student athlete was created,
and Thelma and Scott will appreciate this,
the phrase student athlete was created by an NCAA lawyer
to defend them in a lawsuit.
This wasn't created
because they cared about the students.
A NCAA lawyer came over with the phrase student athlete.
So you heard all these people.
In matter of fact, I was trying to understand.
I was looking at the people seated.
Ted Cruz is there and Mike Johnson is there.
I think the only black person around the table,
y'all correct me if I'm wrong,
because I think it was Charlie Ward.
Charlie Ward might have been the only one.
Charlie Ward was seated next to Ron DeSantis.
And so Charlie Ward, Charlie Ward is, of course,
the head basketball coach at Florida A&M.
And so I'm sitting here watching,
All these people, a room of nearly all white people,
okay, talking about college sports.
There's two black people in the room,
Conno Lisa Rice and Charlie Ward.
Matter of fact, let me see if I can,
if I can get this shot right.
I just want to show you all this was a wide shot.
This was a wide shot of the room.
And they sitting here showing
The room, and it's like, okay, this is, the people in the room.
Ain't that many people looking like us.
Okay, two.
So you heard Nick Saban sitting there talking about how we need to come up with something
they can prepare for their future.
Well, guess what?
You got some players making $1, $1, $3, $4 billion a year.
They're preparing for their future right now.
You got guys who are making more money as college athletes.
You've got women gymnasts.
It's a white woman at LSU.
She don't ever want to leave college.
She's making millions of dollars because of NIL.
She ain't never going to make that money when she graduates.
So I'm confused.
You're concerned about their future when the present money
they're making is guaranteeing their future.
See, y'all, do you know the system that they used to?
The system they used to is a poor black boy.
We're going, we're going to, my mama, mama, we're going to take care of your son.
We're going to give your son an education.
We're going to make sure he'd go to class.
And we're going to feed him.
and he going to give his all to us
and we're going to make millions
and your son, he's going to get an education.
Why Nick Saban tripping?
Nick, we all know Alabama was paying players
under the table.
So was a university of Texas,
Texas A&M, Auburn.
We can go down the line.
Now the system is now money above the table.
Now the reason they're math,
Oh, yeah, ain't no loyalty.
Oh, so now we concern about money?
Do y'all know last year, coaches were fired,
and it was $280 million in guaranteed money
paid out because of their buyouts.
Signetti, who just won the championship from Indiana,
Indiana raised his salary to $13.5 million.
So I'm confused.
So Signetti and Lane Kiffin and all the coaches.
Are you, so the coaches get to get paid.
Y'all, let me help you all out.
Nick Saban, seven national championships.
They took care of his house, low interest loan.
Y'all do know Nick Saban has a couple of car dealerships in Tuscaloosa, right?
Oh, y'all didn't know that, huh?
Mercedes dealership.
Nick getting paid.
He was getting paid on the field, off the field.
So now all of a sudden, the players, black players, some white two, are now getting paid.
Now, oh, no, we've got to regulate this system.
We need Congress to step in.
We need Congress to go antitrust.
We need Congress to come in.
to come in.
We need Congress to set the,
so the playing rules,
and so,
let me help you all out.
They're trying to pimp women's sports.
Well, if these things happen,
we're not going to have women's sports
and what about wrestling,
and what about this sport?
Football drives all of this.
Why, TV money?
And see, the reason they're going to lose?
They're Emily and Scott,
they lawyers.
There was a Supreme Court.
Y'all think I'm lying?
Google this name, Grant Taff,
G-R-A-N-T-E-A-F.
See, that was a time when the NCAA
controlled the TV contracts.
Grant Taff and the coaches group,
they sued.
Went to Supreme Court. Supreme Court said NCAA.
Y'all can't control the TV contracts.
contracts, that's how the conferences got control of it.
Now, now, I remember when Eddie Robinson testified,
and he said how this was going to create an unfair advantage,
and he was right, but y'all, this is where the money comes in.
The reason they want Trump and Ted Cruz and Mike Johnson
and Republicans and Democrats to step in,
because the schools hate the fact that the players are no longer
have it to be in both.
by slave contracts.
The player can say, yo, I'm here for a year, pay me, I do great,
another school is going to sit here and offer me more money.
I'm a hop to that school.
They can't say, oh, the players, they no longer have the loyalty.
Oh, the players, we don't look at them in the same way.
All of the ways that we used to, I mean, what happened to Team Unity?
These things no longer exist.
Because y'all been making money.
Do y'all know the head of the NCAA who stepped down recently?
He was getting $1.9 million a year.
These schools making money, athletes signing autographs and helmets and jerseys.
Remember, um, prior, Terrell prior got suspended at Ohio State because he was signing hats, helmets and jerseys and got paid for it.
and got suspended.
Johnny Mansell came on later and admitted he got $35,000, $56,000.
Because John Amazel said, hold up,
how in hell I win the highsman in Texas A&M?
I got to sign jerseys and helmets
and they could turn around and auction off for $10,000.
That's my jersey.
That's my signature.
May, y'all better ask somebody.
Ask the Odom Brother who sued the NCAA over the EA sports game.
Because the NFL, the NCAA said,
No, no, no, no, no.
That's not you.
Hold up.
Y'all got a Tim Tebow player, play for Florida, number 15,
and the black marks under his eye built like Tim Tebow,
run like Tim Tebow, throw like Tim Tebow,
but it ain't Tim Tebow?
Y'all, the doggone game actually had the Cincinnati Bearcats,
and they had a player built-like, looking like,
playing like Oscar Robinson.
Oscar Robinson hadn't played for Cincinnati in 60 damn years,
but they were making money off of his likeness.
They sued with the federal court they asked laws.
Y'all, they've been making billions off of black talent.
They've been sharecropping.
And now all of a sudden, oh my God, the system is just grossly unfair.
This is just not right.
But I thought, Scott, I thought Republicans love the free market.
I thought the Republicans said, let the free market decide.
I thought the Republicans were super believers in capitalism.
Scott, what happened?
That's all true until it comes to black folks and black athletes.
If you have any melanin in your skin and you are free and you can make $1,2, 3 million dollars,
you got basketball players at NCAA Division I'm schools,
who you probably never heard of.
They got NIL money at $2,000.
$3 million a year.
The boy in Miami
who left Georgia
I forgot his name quarterback
Miami was paying him $4 million.
Exactly.
$4 million a year.
But you're right about the
exploitation though.
You ought to spend more time on this
that for decades
and decades
these colleges
and these TV contracts that give them
billions dollars of
not just money but exposure.
And all you had were these student athletes who were working out and running the football and shooting the basketball.
And they said, we're going to give you an education.
Without this basketball scholarship, you wouldn't be able to get an education.
And that's more valuable than the billions or millions we're making off you.
We're not making off you.
We're just in the entertainment business.
You're the entertainer.
And we're going to make you a college education.
We're going to get your college education.
And then what happened?
Then they start running the numbers, top 25 schools.
CAA Division I, how many of these athletes were graduating from four-year institutions or getting
degrees, a small percentage of them? So they had to change that. So they made that better, I guess.
I don't know what the statistics are right now. But now we're going to pay them, 9-0 Supreme Court
decision. Now we're going to pay them. They can make millions in college, which they will never
catch up to what these institutions have made off the backs of black and white athletes,
Black, brown, and white athletes, right?
Because I understand what you're saying about exploiting the black athlete
because they come from challenged neighborhoods
and challenged backgrounds, but they exploited brown people too
and white folks by giving them an education.
It made absolutely no sense.
Those kids wrestling aren't coming from millionaire homes.
And so it's just catching up or trying to.
But see, now, if they fix this legislatively, right?
and it passes while the Republicans are in control.
It's going to take all that money away,
and now we're going to go back to making college sports great again.
Right, right.
First of all, and we say great again, more money going back to the schools.
Go to my iPad.
That's right.
Go to my iPad.
Thelma, it was 1984 of the NCAA versus Board of Regents
of the University of Oklahoma,
seven to two decision where the Supreme Court rule
that the NCAA controlling TV content,
violated antitrust laws.
That ruling is what created the conferences
being able to negotiate their own deals.
Notre Dame being able to negotiate
their own deal with NBC.
They are mad because Thelma, they no longer control the slaves.
They mad, the slaves are like, yo, we can walk.
We can go now.
Now they're mad.
Now they're mad.
They're mad that players can sit here and say, how much?
Listen, BYU,
All of a sudden is signing top basketball.
What no brother's trying to go to BYU to play basketball?
But guess what?
Dumb Mormons out there in Utah going,
we're going to make it rain.
And see, now the way the game work,
all you need is one billionaire.
Texas Tech got one billionaire.
Homeboy sitting there's like,
I'm going to fund the $25 million every year.
That's how Texas Tech got into the playoffs.
So they are mad because the players now
they can't use that BS against them.
Oh, no, you play hard for four or five years
and then you'll get your money in the NFL.
The player's like, no, no, run me my money right now.
Listen, one thing that I think of is
they want to make athletes poor hands.
That's their whole goal because now they got to work.
And I said this when this whole...
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And this framework started happening when I was.
was in law school back in 2013 when they started this whole process, I said, this is a great idea.
Like, these athletes need to get paid. Y'all are getting rich out the backs of athletes,
and all you are offering them is a measly scholarship that you can take from them at any moment.
Not even a scholarship. It's not a scholarship. It's a grant in aid that renews every year.
that exactly they can rip that at any moment so why not pay them for their name image and likeness they are bringing the people to the seats they are the reason why the boosters are showing up and spending the money that y'all are asking for over and above what they don't like is these athletes are getting their opportunity to operate themselves as a business and when you are operating as a business you're going to go where you're
you are not tolerated, but you are paid.
And you're paid based on the value that you see within yourself,
not the value that they want because they're going to discount you every single time.
So when I hear the Nick Sabin,
because we know he retired because he felt like he couldn't compete in the system
that requires him to actually market and tell athletes why you should come here,
not the other way around.
Look, I ran to Nick Sabin at Richard Jackson's,
term two years ago, and he was complaining
that was this guy who was a reserve
at Alabama, was offered
a million dollars by Ohio State
to come there, and guess what?
He took the million dollars, and he should have
taken a million dollars. And he was like,
they're paying a million dollars for a reserve.
Yes, because he was a reserve
at your school, but he's starting in Ohio State.
And see, Omic Congo, here's the problem.
See, the problem is the Nick Sabers of the world.
They can't stack talent.
See, they can't sit here and recruit
four and five stars and say, yo,
you're going to sit here and buy it your time
and you've got to wait two or three years
and then you'll get your shot, you can go to the NFL.
Not players are coming in and say, no, no, no,
I need you to run me my money as a freshman as a sophomore.
Now what you got, the people are mad
because the player goes to a mid-major,
excels, he now all of a sudden gets attention
and now the big schools come and say,
hey man, you are starting linebacker,
you are linemen, you are a quarterback at that school.
We're going to pay you two, three million
come to our school.
Now the mid-maiders are crying,
but guess what?
That football coach, if he goes 10 and 2 or 9 and 3 or 11 and 1 at that mid-major,
you know what's going to happen?
The big school going to come recruit him for a five-year $40 million of a contract.
So if you get the lead for the money, I get the lead for the money.
That's right.
And look, they've been running a plantation-style system forever.
So they've been in all of these guys.
Everything was great when they had the power,
where they can control these guys' destiny.
And my thing is like, did anyone listen to the segment you just did with Morgan?
I mean, people need to put themselves in any position possible to be able to get that money now.
And my only hope is that financial literacy is coming along with it.
But the fact that they are running to Trump, you know, these school leaders, these heads and all that are running to Trump saying, you know, save us, save us, save us.
It really shows how problematic the system was from the jump.
And my philosophy, we're talking WMBA, Katelyn Clark, you know, professional now, but, you know, the college level, this system has been exploitative from the beginning.
Yep.
LeBron did a mini documentary about this as well.
And now it's time for these players to get theirs.
Hey, if you're a good coach, you should be able to run
any type of team that you got.
It shouldn't be about you're in control of these players' destiny.
And you're right, well, and they want to go back to that old system
where they just find, like, you know, the poorest kid who got a lot of talent.
Yep.
They're just going to promise everything to their mom
and that they're going to get those grades
and maybe even go to church on Sunday and make sure.
And all of that is gone because these athletes are finally getting theirs.
And I say the more the merrier athletes, get your money.
but get that financial literacy too.
And here's what's going to happen.
Congress can try to intervene,
but it's going to be some states that's going to sue.
Because you know why?
That's right.
Because they want their schools to win.
And so y'all, it's going to go to the Supreme Court.
And I think they're going to lose.
Because again, now you're trying to tell states,
you got state schools and private schools.
Okay, Congress, what role do you have to play here?
Trump ain't no, he can't sign an executive order
that mandates what a state school can't.
school can do.
They aren't governed by his executive order.
Y'all, they just throw some BS out.
And guess what?
And there's some CBC members who are back in that bill.
And so I'm going to have them on, but guess what?
I'm sorry, they dead as wrong.
This whole thing is about curtailing
the millions upon millions going to black ball players.
And I dare say this right here.
I dare say that if we actually ran the data,
NIL is probably creating more,
They're number one, two, or three,
they are creating more black millionaires
on an annual basis per capita
than any other industry in the country.
I want you all to think about that.
You finally have black ball players
who are 17, 18, 19,
who are now being paid million,
two, three million,
750,000, 500,000,
or 250,000.
They are now making money.
And you know what?
You now have high school players
who are looking at NIL deals.
So now of a sudden, unlike in the last 50, 60 years,
you now have black parents
who are understanding the financial game
at an earlier age.
And so they also, they ain't dealing
with the illiterate black parent
or who has no idea
because now you've got these black parents
who are talking to financial advisors.
Now guess what? That needs to be regulated
because you've got some Charlottons out there,
but they can't stand the fact
that the ball players now have leverage.
Guess what?
Shit ain't funny when the rabbit got the gun, huh?
That's what's going on here.
Quick break.
We come back.
We'll tell you about lawsuit in Texas,
how they also are trying to keep black people
and others from accessing the billions
in state contracts in Texas.
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Republicans put in place everywhere.
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$250 billion. That's how much
Texas spends every year on contracts.
Now they have removed African-Americans,
minorities, and women from their
Texas Hub. Historically,
underutilized business. Why? Well, they MAGA. The Republicans there want to, they want to call it DEI,
and that's the game that they're playing. Then, of course, what that's doing, that's freezing out
people of color. Now, I want you to also keep in mind, 60% of Texas is a minority. 60% of Texas,
Latino, black, Asian-American, Native American, they want the white folk to get the money.
Alfonso Davis Jones is right now, president's CEO, global black, black,
economic form. I'm glad to have you here.
Alfonso, the
lawsuit has been filed.
People need to understand this is going to
be a precursor.
Other states may do the exact same thing.
I have been saying since last year
that Donald Trump, MAGA, Republicans,
they want to defund
Black America. They are targeting
the entire economic,
civil rights,
education, health
infrastructure of
black America. And
this is a part of that strategy.
Thank you for having me, Roland.
You're exactly right.
And I think folks should be very concerned about what we're seeing in Texas, just to get
folks some background.
In the early 1990s, the state of Texas, through the legislature and the governor, signed a law
that provided more opportunities for women and people of color to participate in state contracts.
And that law has been on the book since the 1990s.
We have about 11 to 12% of contracts that are going to people of color in women.
So that amounts to about $4 billion.
$4 billion is being allocated to women and people of color in Texas.
And late last year, an interim controller issued regulations seeking to completely dismantle the program.
He decided that the program should no longer include women, should no longer include,
include black people, should no longer include brown people,
and should only be limited to service disabled veterans.
Well, there's one problem.
That problem is separation of powers,
and that problem is the rule of law.
An executive branch officer, such as a state controller,
does not have the authority or the legal right
to change a law that has been passed by the legislature.
And that's essentially what he's tried to do
and completely eliminate all opportunities for what
opportunities for women and eliminate all opportunities for people of color.
That is unlawful, and this is why we have filed the lawsuit.
Cortina Williams is plaintiff in this lawsuit.
She also joins us right now.
Cortina, here's the people don't even understand.
First of all, I'm born and raised in Texas, and that law Alfonso references was signed
by George W. Bush.
And when George W. Bush ran for president, there were a lot of black and Latino state
legislators who did not campaign against George W. Bush because he was an art and supporter of
this program. And in fact, but people don't realize on the federal level, historically what
happens on the federal level, Republicans like to bundle contracts, meaning it's difficult
for a small business to compete for contracts. The Republicans want only the major folk to compete.
George W. Bush was the only Republican,
not the only Republican who actually unbundled contracts.
So he took what they were doing in Texas,
took it to the federal level.
And a lot of people don't realize that.
So what this is about,
this is about MAGA seeking to choke off the dollars
to black businesses and other minorities.
And I keep telling these white women,
y'all need to wake y'all ass up
because y'all been right and dirty
all these years on these city, school board, county, state, and federal contracts,
and they come in for y'all too.
Cortina?
Yes, sir.
Go ahead.
Hi.
I'm glad to be here, Roland, and thank you for having me.
Just show you.
Go ahead.
Share your thoughts why you are a plaintiff in the lawsuit.
I'm a plaintiff in the lawsuit because when I started my business,
everyone wants to be an entrepreneur for one reason, several reasons, but the main reason is to be your own boss, to call your own shots.
And so I became a business owner so that I could call my own shots. And I built my business model around the hub certification because that allowed me to compete for major contracts based on my
qualifications and my work performance. And so that is why I became a plaintiff of this lawsuit,
because that right to compete competitively, I still have to bid. Nothing will be given to me,
but I can sit down at the table with everybody else and bid on these competitive contracts.
that has been taken away from me
by decertifying the hub certification.
So that is why I became a plaintiff in this lawsuit
so that I could stand up for my right
to be competitive
and get part of the monies that are out there in these contracts.
Roland, if I can also just make a point,
a point that, you know, Cortina is raising here
because what has affected her
has affected more than 15,000 businesses throughout the state of Texas.
Let that sink in.
We have more than 15,000 businesses in the state of Texas that were decertified,
meaning they went through the process of getting certified.
They proved that they were qualified.
They proved that they had the experience.
They proved that they could do the work.
They were certified by the state of Texas.
And then the state of Texas assigned them a property right
to compete in the contracting process.
With one regulation issued by an executive at the state controller's office,
all of that gets wiped away.
15, more than 15,000 businesses are no longer certified in the state of Texas.
And that's important context.
Cortina is one of more than 15,000 people that are affected by this policy.
And this policy is illegal, is wrong, and it has to be reversed.
So who does that?
The courts.
And that's what we're reminding the controller, right?
We have separation of powers.
We have the legislature.
They pass laws.
The executive implements those laws.
And the courts, the judicial system, determines whether or not those laws are constitutional
and in compliance with federal and state law.
An executive branch officer does not have the right to say, oh, I see the legislature
surpass the law. I don't like this word.
Oh, it's been happening. I don't like this
paragraph. Alfonso, this has been happening
all across Texas. I mean,
the Attorney General like, yeah,
I know the intent. I'm like, no, you don't.
I mean, so this is what they've been doing.
But again, this is the same thing
Donald Trump's doing in D.C. Their whole
deal is, damn the laws,
we get to determine since we now
empower what should be done
and how it should be done, which is why
I keep telling people, if you don't
vote, this is what happens when they are
in power and they have complete control and authority of the entire process.
Exactly right.
This is about our exercising our civil rights to vote and to have our interests represented
by people that are supposed to represent our interests.
So if you don't vote for legislators that are going to ensure equality and equal opportunity,
then you're going to have a problem if those.
elected officials are advancing pieces of legislation that devalues your interests or potentially
ignores you entirely.
But here we have the opposite, right?
We have the legislature that passed the law in order to create greater opportunities
and then someone in the executive branch decides that he doesn't like that law.
And you're exactly right, Roland.
This is not just about Texas.
It's about all over the country that we're seeing people seeking to ignore what's happening
to the legislative process.
Questions from the panel, Phelma?
You're in Dallas. You first.
One of the questions that I have specifically is,
where do you think the strongest argument
when appealing this decision to the top?
What do you think your strongest argument
into making them understand, like,
y'all see what they're doing?
Are y'all really about to dismantle a program
that has helped so many and is a right to so many minorities.
Well, we have several legal arguments that we outline in our complaint.
We have more than 16 counts in the complaint.
And they fall into three separate categories.
The first category is that the controller does not have the legal authority to ignore the law.
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That's just simply, as a matter of law, an executive branch officer can't ignore the law.
Second, the controller issued an emergency regulation.
Emergency regulations you are required to go through a very detailed process,
including providing notice and comment to people who are going to be affected by your regulation.
And importantly here, there was no emergency.
There is no reason to issue an emergency regulation decertifying thousands of people.
And then finally, and this is just as important, the controller saw,
to decertify more than 15,000 businesses,
and when he did that, he took away a property right, right?
When the legislature creates a statute
and they allow more than 16,000, 15,000 people
to certify as women-owned businesses
and black-owned businesses and brown-owned businesses,
that is a property right that you can't take away
unless you provide folks with a notice and opportunity
to exercise their objective.
to the removal of certification.
That didn't happen here.
So we have a slew of legal arguments
that we're advancing in court
as to why the controller is wrong,
factually and as a matter of law.
Of course, they're trying to say,
oh, it's because of DEI,
well, again, we're known as BS.
Scott?
Yeah, I guess going to the legislature
and getting the law clarified
isn't doable
because the Texas legislature,
the state legislature is Republican control.
Is that fair to say?
First of all, before I'm following answer.
That's fair to say. I'll answer one second.
But also, you don't have to go to the legislature to get a law clarified.
I mean, the law is the law.
It's been in place since 1999.
Yeah, I agree with you.
So the problem here, look at all options.
Right, no, no.
What I'm saying is, I mean, you can ask legislature,
but the law is the law.
It's already written.
What they're trying to suggest is they're trying to say
Greg Abbott's executive order
prohibiting DEI
now renders a state
law illegal.
Alfonso, it's simple.
An executive order can't
override a law.
Exactly right.
The legislature has
to change the law, Alfonso.
Right. All right.
So have you asked for
emergency relief as
part of your lawsuit? I'm just curious
because it's seen to me.
It's a disenfranchised
15,000 businesses.
They disenfranchise 15,000 businesses, then, and it's not, and it's in violation of the law and their due process rights, and money's not going to, you know, satisfy them or make them hold, then an emergency relief, because that's still a lawsuit, emergency relief would seem to be a really good approach. Is that part of your lawsuit as well?
That is exactly a part of our lawsuit. Our lawsuit is more correct. We are seeking. We are seeking.
injunctive relief from the state controller for doing what he did here.
And our complaint is more than 100 pages long and is very detailed.
And it goes through why the controller is wrong as a matter of law, the relief that we're
seeking, which is injunctive relief.
We are looking to completely invalidate his regulation and compel him to comply with the statute.
He doesn't get to ignore the law because he doesn't like it.
We have separation of powers for a reason.
We have rule of law for a reason.
And an important point here to what Roland was mentioning earlier.
Remember, this statute has been on the books for more than 35 years.
But second, members of the legislature tried to change the law last year to remove people of color and remove women.
And that proposal was rejected.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The legislature
wants to
So Abbott and his folks
want to stop this
and there was a law
that was passed
by a Republican-controlled legislature
signed into law
by a Republican governor
and now they want to try
to simply undo this
because their whole
goal is to slap
DEI on everything
and that's what it's all about.
Let me also read this here.
The other plaintiffs are
Ipsum,
General Contractors LLC.
Go to my iPad.
Houston Construction Services,
Sugar Land-based medical technology distributor,
the Impulse Healthcare Technology LLC.
Of course, Cortina's companies,
Burleson-based, Williams Professional
on Water Restoration Services,
the Greater Houston Chapter
of the National Association
of Minority Contractors,
a non-profit trade association
representing 155 minority and women.
They named the Texas Department
and Transportation Executive Director,
Mark Williams, Texas Health and Human Services
Commission, Executive Commissioner,
Stephanie Muth,
and Texas Facilities Commission,
executive director Will McCarroll.
All of those departments implemented
Hancock's changes to the Hub program.
Scott, you asked the question about,
you get a second question, go ahead, before I go next panel.
It was real quick. Real quick,
what does success look like?
I mean, litigation can take a long time
while you've got these 15,000 businesses out here.
Even if you win at the federal district court level
or state court level, you know,
this is going to take some time.
time, what do you think the options are? If you're successful in getting the emergency relief,
they can certainly appeal. Any idea on discussing from a position of strength, resolution or
settling, whether that means them backing completely down or agreeing to some type of modification
that allows those 15,000 businesses to get back on the approval sheet?
Yeah, it's too soon to sort of negotiate trying to resolve.
what has been done here because it's completely unlawful what the controller did.
How long litigation will take, as you know, it's too difficult to predict how long litigation
will take. What we are doing, though, is seeking immediate relief from the court to reinstate
the statute as written by the legislature and signed by the governor. What may or may not happen
after that is anyone's guess? Could they appeal? Probably. Where will we end up at an appellate
court probably. And we can litigate those issues, but in the interim, you cannot simply take away
someone's property right, take away opportunities that they have been exploring, and keep in mind,
one of the plaintiffs lost a $2 million contract a week and a half ago. So this is very real for
businesses. This is very real for the plaintiffs, and you can't simply take away those opportunities
and wait until litigation percolates through the court. We need immediate relief, and then we can, we can
resolve the other issues as we go through litigation, which can, as you mentioned, take some time.
Omecongo?
Well, first of all, thank you for this work.
I mean, it is so necessary.
My question is we were talking earlier about the economy and unemployment and so on and so
forth.
What are some other examples of what the consequences of this action are looking like in
real time for these business owners?
You just mentioned the $2 million contract.
What are some of the other things that people are actually?
dealing with because of this decision right now.
You first.
Well, for many of the contractors, they have lost contracts.
Oh, I've lost opportunities.
Hold on a second.
Cortina, as a company, how have you been impacted by this?
... with two different entities when the hub decertification came about.
And those just went silent.
No response, no explanation, no anything.
just ghosted.
Alfonso?
Yes.
You were talking about the impact.
Yeah, I was just saying that we have plaintiffs, in this case, who have lost actual contracts.
They have lost opportunities.
They have built their businesses with the expectation that they would be participating in the HUP program.
So we can't simply wait for a year or six months because some of these.
folks may be out of business, right? And so that's really important for us to consider as we are
thinking about the meaning of this case, why this case is important to the, and to the point you
raised earlier, Roland, when you started the segment, this could happen in other parts of the
country. So we have to fight back. Again, as I said, they want to defund Black America.
Cortina. I appreciate it. Alfonza, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much for having you.
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A Cleveland mother has been charged with murder after two black girls are found in a suitcase.
You may recall that we mentioned this case last week.
Investigators say 28-year-old Aaliyah Henderson, who was the girl's mother,
has been indicted on two counts of aggravated murder and is being held in the Kiaka County Jail.
She was booked on Wednesday, two days after the girl's remains were found on Monday evening
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around penetrated the wall of the house. No injuries have been reported. Ortiz, who is originally
from Florida, was booked on suspicion of attempted murder. Officials have not cited a motive for the
attack, but authorities say weeks leading up to the shooting. She posted a series of erratic messages
and videos on social media that reference several celebrities,
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Ortiz is being held on a $10.2 million bond.
A federal jury in California has awarded $2 million to Lettisha Nixon,
the mother of Jamel Moore,
in a wrongful death lawsuit against Ed Buck,
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The verdict was delivered in the United States District Court
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after the jury deliberated for approximately 1.8.
hour. The jury consisting of five men and three women unanimously found Buck civilly liable for Moore's
death and awarded Nixon damages for the loss of her son. Moore, a 26-year-old black gay man,
died of a methamphetamine overdose in Buck's West Hollywood apartment in 2017 after Buck provided
the drugs that led to his death. Moore's death was the first of two fatal overdoses associated
with Buck's home. Buck was convicted in 2021 on nine.
federal charges, including distribution of methamphetamine, resulting in death related to both
Jamel Moore's death in 2017 and Timothy Dean's death in 2019. Dean, another black gay man,
died under nearly identical circumstances in Buck's apartment. In 2022, Buck was sentenced to
30 years in federal prison. Well, Live Nation has reached a settlement with the U.S. Department
of justice in its major antitrust case less than a week after the trial began. Under the deal,
Ticketmaster must open parts of its platform to rival ticketing companies, allowing sellers like
Seat Geek and Eventbrite to list tickets through Ticketmaster's Technology. Live Nation will also
pay about $200 million in damages to the states involved in the lawsuit. The case filed in May of
2024 by the Justice Department and 40 state attorneys generals accused the concert giant of
maintaining an illegal monopoly over live events through its control of ticketing venues and
artist promotion. The settlement also limits Ticketmaster's exclusive venue contracts to four years
and allows venues to sell some tickets through competing platforms. Well, Fox News is apologizing
after mistakenly airing the wrong video Donald Trump during the coverage of a solemn military
ceremony. The dignified transfer ceremony took place Saturday at Dover Air Force Base and was held for
six U.S. service members killed in the Middle East. The network says archived video of Trump
without a baseball cap was accidentally used during two Sunday morning broadcast instead of video
from the actual ceremony where he was wearing a USA baseball cap. Some critics are questioning
whether the mistake was intentional. Box News says the mix up happened when a staff member
pulled older video by mistake and the network apologized and later aired the correct footage.
Arizona governor Katie Hobbs has vetoed a bill that would have created a specialty license plate
honoring conservative influencer Charlie Kirk, who was shot and killed while speaking on the college campus in Utah last year.
Under the proposal, drivers who choose the specialty plate would have paid an additional $25.
Of that fee, $17 would have gone to the nonprofit arm of Turning Point USA.
The controversial right-wing organization that Kirk founded in 2012, like other specialty plates and
Arizona, the program was designed to raise money for affiliated causes through vehicle registration
fees. However, the governor ultimately rejected the measure preventing the plate from moving
forward. And Northern Louisiana, HBCU, Grambling State University lands a legal victory over its iconic
black and gold G logo. On March 2nd, the school revealed a decades-long triumph had finally
come. The school finalized the federal trademark registration of the G under U.S.
trademark registration.
The logo was made famous by the university's football team and head coach Eddie Robinson.
It now has full control over how their brand will be used in partnerships for the foreseeable
future.
And the logo is similar to the G used by the Green Bay Packers and the Georgia Bulldogs since 1998.
The school has been embroiled in a legal fight over its logo.
Grambling State University President Dr. Martin Lemell Jr. says this registration represents
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This marks a significant shift in the country's health care system.
The decision was announced by Jamaica's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Foreign Trade, led by
Foreign Minister Kamina Johnson-Smith.
The program was discontinued after both governments were unable to agree on a new term
for a technical cooperation agreement following the exploration.
of the previous agreement back in February of 2023.
Despite the end of the formal bilateral program,
Jamaican officials indicated that Cuban health care workers currently on the island
will be allowed to remain for the duration of their existing contracts.
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They're like, yo, y'all aren't going to be lying about January 6th.
The bill passed 2119 mandating in Virginia that y'all can't be making up stuff about January 6th.
They've got to actually teach the truth about what happened on that particular day.
was sponsored by Virginia State Delegate Democrat Dan Herreras.
It's going to comp the whole goal is to combat false statements by MAGA defending the attack on the nation's capital.
Schools cannot portray the January 6th attack as a peaceful protest or suggest that widespread election fraud changed the outcome of 2020 election.
The measure says that school instruction must quote,
describe the January 6, 2021 insurrection at the United States Capitol as an unprecedented violent attack on United States' democratic institutions,
infrastructure and representatives for the purpose of overturning the results of the 2020 presidential
election. See, that's what happens, Omic Congo. When you get the power, Republicans keep doing that.
Well, guess what? Democrats like, yo, we got the power. We're going to do the same thing.
Absolutely. And I need more of that. I need more of that energy, especially coming up, you know,
right now with 250 and everything that Trump's doing, including putting his face on U.S. flags that are going to be produced.
People have to take control of the narrative. They just put up the plaque three years after
the fact, you know, the Senate, you know, honoring the people, the Capitol police officers.
They did it at 4 a.m. on a Saturday morning, right, to make sure that nobody could see it.
This is the part of reclaiming history that's going to be necessary.
But it's also sad at the same time because it's like history repeating itself.
You know, we grew up learning about, you know, slavery one way and in the South, as you know,
better than anyone, Roland, they were calling it to peculiar institution and, you know,
South Side Rise again.
So it's unfortunate that we have these dual narratives in America, as we always have.
I need more of this energy from Democrats as they take more power so we can have more control
in this narrative.
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Delma.
Totally agree.
Like, this is the energy that we've been asking for when we are talking about the Democratic Party
because what we have been experiencing for the past, I mean, I would say over 10 years,
is soft play.
We don't want that soft play.
When you have the power, you have the numbers, what are you playing soft for?
We need more of other states.
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This is what we are asking for.
Show up, do the work, put it on paper and pass it
so that we don't have to continue to experience the lack of power
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and integrated for so long.
When we're looking at especially January 6th,
we got to call it like it is,
and these kids need to know exactly what this was
because this has never happened before.
This is a perfect example of domestic terrorism.
When you have individuals who have decided
that they're going to go and overthrow the government
and we have individuals getting murdered,
oh, no, they're nothing peaceful about that.
And I'm glad that they did this
because history needs to be told right.
the first time.
Absolutely.
Oh, my God, this is, this is so hilarious.
Let me pull this up, y'all.
I got to pull this up.
Y'all, the Atlanta Hawks in this strip of night
is just too much.
Give me a second.
Let me show y'all what they just posted by the hour ago.
Hold on.
Let me pull us.
Listen, Roland, I used to date the owner of one of the major strip clubs and Houston,
so I know exactly why this is not okay.
This is utterly hilarious.
I need y'all to understand.
Hold on.
So the Hawks released the statement.
they released a statement on social media
where first of all I can't
okay I don't understand why I can't pull this up
come on I'm trying to transfer it to my iPad
okay did it finally come through
no no no no I got it came through
y'all this is stupid
so
this is what the Hawks posted
on their Twitter account
about stripper night,
Magic City Night.
So they posted
what to expect
at the game.
Legendary rapper and King of the South
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The live recording of the Hawks
A.F. Podcast
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Okay. Hawks' Principal Owner,
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T.I. and Magic City founder
Michael, Mr. Magic Barney,
has been canceled.
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Y'all got to understand. Jamie Gertz
is married to the principal
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was an executive producer of the Magic City
documentary series on Stars.
I kid you not.
And they also say the full array of award-winning culinary options
available at State Farm Arena for Hawks Games will be available,
including the Lemon Pepper Wing.
Oh, they're so petty.
They're so petty.
Y'all.
They just couldn't.
They had to get that part in there.
They, y'all.
I know lie.
And hold up, I saw earlier, let me show you all the statement that they posted after the NBA.
Hold on, y'all.
I'm telling you, this is what they posted.
While we are very disappointed in the NBA's decision to cancel our Magic City night promotion,
we fully respect its decision.
As a franchise, we remain committed to celebrating the best of Atlanta with authenticity
in ways that continue to unite and bring us all together.
Y'all disappointed.
Right, the hawk's like, damn, Adam Silver,
y'all are messed up our stripper night.
Like they can't go in any other time.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, this is absolutely hilarious.
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
That's America.
It's hilarious.
It's hilarious.
All right.
Let me shout out my sister, Zena, her 40th birthday is today.
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So like I said, she turned 48 years old today.
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This is from, first of all, again,
let me thank Scott, Thelma and Omekongov being on today's show.
So we're going to close the show out, y'all.
This is from last year's Jeffrey Osborne, Celebrity Golf Classic.
It took place in September.
And it was J.O. Smokey Robinson.
Johnny Gill, Chris Tucker.
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