#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Exclusive: Kysre Gondrezick Talks Kevin Porter, Jr., Menthol Ban Pushback, LA's Runoff Elections

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

11.15.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Exclusive: Kysre Gondrezick Talks Kevin Porter, Jr., Menthol Ban Pushback, LA's Runoff Elections It's an RMU exclusive:Kysre Gondrezick is here to talk about the al...leged Kevin Porter Jr. assault case.She's here to set the record straight about what really happened on September 11 in a New York hotel room before the NBA star was arrested. Louisiana's runoff election is this Saturday. Advocate Gary Chambers is here tonight to discuss the races, the state of the democratic party, and what he thinks the turnout will look like.  The push for a menthol cigarette ban is getting a lot of pushback.  I'll share my thoughts on those who are pushing back.  A Republican Pennsylvania school superintendent resigns after his party loses control of the school board, but his friends ensure he gets a hefty severance package that will cost taxpayers thousands.  Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, folks, today is Wednesday, number 15, 2023, coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network. Many people, yours included, was shocked and stunned when then-Houston Rockets star
Starting point is 00:02:18 Kevin Porter Jr. was arrested in a New York hotel. What was described was a vicious physical assault against a WNBA player. Well, in exclusive, she will join us to talk about what happened on September 11th, what were the actual details, and what is going on in this case that has left many people perplexed. He no longer is in the NBA. And so the question is, what really happened? We will talk about this with Keirz Gondrzek about this very thing.
Starting point is 00:02:59 So this is an exclusive interview. You don't want to miss that. Also, folks, Louisiana had its runoff on Saturday. There are several Democrats who are running. Advocate Gary Chambers will be here to discuss what needs to happen. Will we see black folks turn out after the abysmal showing in the primary election just last month? Also, Arkansas Senator Tom Scott had the audacity, the unmitigated gall to criticize the Biden administration and calling them wrong for trying to ban menthol cigarettes that disproportionately impact African Americans.
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Starting point is 00:05:25 People were very shocked to hear. We heard that it was a cracked vertebrae, that she was abused. Kaiser Gondrzek is that WNBA player. When the story went out, Houston Rockets immediately suspended any contact with him, later traded to the Oklahoma basketball team. They cut him. He's not in the NBA. Case is going forward. And so when we hear these particular details of this case, people
Starting point is 00:05:53 said, oh my God, how dare a man do this? How can you have a woman you're involved with who's a fellow athlete, who's a gorgeous woman. What the heck were you thinking? But what really happened? Well, Kaiser Gondra is at Jones's right now. It's an exclusive interview to talk about this because she has some concerns with regard to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. And so, first and foremost, glad to have you here.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Your folks reached out to me on social media, and we began to look into this, and I said, well, let's definitely have this conversation. So first off, as I look at what happened, first of all, Kevin Porter Jr. was initially charged with assault in the second degree, strangulation in the second degree, assault in the third degree, and since then, the assault in the second degree charge was dropped. And so there clearly is a whole lot to unpack here. So first and foremost, and I'm just going to methodically go through this. I was going through your social media page. I think it was in February. you had posted about y'all being together for one year. On
Starting point is 00:07:07 September 11th, were the two of you still together? Were you dating? Were you still involved in a relationship in September? Yes, we were. Okay. And so what happened? The affidavit shows an incident that took place in the morning around 6 a.m. that morning. I'm going to read from some of that in a little bit. But from your perspective, what happened? Were you physically assaulted by Kevin Porter Jr. in a New York hotel room? Do I feel as if that he intentionally tried to cause me great harm um no i do not believe that at all what does that mean what does that mean when you say do i feel that he was not trying to
Starting point is 00:07:56 intentionally cause me great harm do the two of you have an argument what first of all were you still awake that you wake up i'm six o'clock in the morning is early. So set for me the scene of what happened that led to this altercation. Yeah, I don't believe that I was physically assaulted. We were in New York attending New York Fashion Week. Just earlier that night, we had just finished attending a fashion show. I had some meetings early the next morning to attend to, so I decided to call it an early night. He stayed out with his friends, his teammates, and obviously came back at a later time. Me being asleep, I was unaware of the fact that he was locked out of the room. Security, to my understanding, helped let him in. And I was awakened to, you know, just yelling and him being very adamant about wanting
Starting point is 00:08:54 to have a conversation with me that even still to this day, I don't even know what that was, you know, about. I was, you know, very hazy, you know, being awakened from sleeping. And I could smell, you know, a hue of alcohol. Clearly, it wasn't the right space nor the right time frame to even have a conversation. And as, you know, he grabbed me by my shoulders to try to wake me up to have that, you know, I stand up, you know, very quickly on the bed And I fall off the side of the bed and hit the side of my eye on the wall. And that's where the laceration above my eye came from. There was a makeup splat and a little blood splat on the wall to justify and support that injury. I don't know if you've ever tried to stand up on a bed. There's actually no support. There is so much imbalance that I felt. And in
Starting point is 00:09:49 hindsight of that, I noticed blood. And to be completely honest, I was in shock. I kind of like just, I don't know, I kind of panicked and I ran out the room. And once when I ran out the room, the security officer that had let him in was still standing at the elevator. So it just goes to show you how fast and such a blur the whole incident, you know, happened that the guy that let him in was still standing outside waiting to go down. And to my understanding, that's when they escorted me down. And I heard that he was arrested. I'm looking at the signed complaint. Go to my understanding, that's when they escorted me down and I heard that he was arrested. I'm looking at the signed complaint. Go to my iPad, please. It says the factual basis for these charges are as follows. the defendant strike her repeatedly about the face with a closed fist causing a laceration
Starting point is 00:10:46 above her right eye and bruising and substantial pain to her face. I am further informed by informant one that she observed the defendant use his hands to apply pressure to her neck by forcefully squeezing it causing her to experience difficulty breathing, redness and bruising to her neck, and substantial pain. One, when they say informant one, is that you? No. It is in a recording from the supervisor acknowledging that the criminal complaint that you're reading and that was spilled out was from what officers believed they thought happened at the time. And I have her saying that word for word
Starting point is 00:11:25 and apologizing to me for putting out non-factual information. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
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Starting point is 00:14:20 Information that was not valid to my truth. So hold on one second. So again, this is a signed complaint by, go back to my iPad, because it says the people of the state of New York against Brian Porter. This is a sworn statement from police officer Patrick Amato. And it says false statements made in this written instrument are punishable as a Class A misdemeanor pursuant to Section 214.45 of the Penal Law and as other crimes. So you are saying that
Starting point is 00:14:54 what is stated in this signed complaint by a New York police officer that you did not say any of these things to the police officer. No, the criminal complaint was filled out with officers believed to happen at the time and by hearsay regarding evidence that they heard medical personnel talking about what my injuries were.
Starting point is 00:15:19 That was inaccurate. So we're talking, but again, as I read this here, when a statement says that she observed the defendant strike her repeatedly about the face with a closed fist, and then that pressure was applied to her neck by forcefully squeezing it, causing her to experience difficult breathing. So you're saying Kevin Porter Jr. never hit you in the face with a closed fist?
Starting point is 00:15:44 No, he never brought his fist up and hit me in the face numerous times, nor did he ever strangle me to the point where there was lacerations around my neck or where he fractured my spine and my neck. Those allegations are not true. Okay. And you did supply us. You had a conversation with the district attorney's office. Folks, cue that up.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Where, as you said, they told you that they apologized for these details being made public. Guys, go ahead and play that. Information that was conveyed earlier at the arraignment that no one had any consent or anything in writing from her and she's just kind of processing all of this and you're still releasing stuff information that she has not given a document no statement or anything but you're just attaching all of this for a storyline first of all i completely hear. This must be so overwhelming
Starting point is 00:16:46 to see in the press what we're saying, and you're not getting as much information from us as we would like you to get. So I'm so sorry about how this is happening. This isn't about us getting information about what you all have, and you are releasing information to us. It's about information that you're releasing that Kaiser has not given a voice to. She has not given you a statement. She has not given you any consent to release any of her records, any of her information with her physical status or any injuries that you sat there and said, oh, I'm sorry for, because in order to what? To make you all's case for today, for court, for the arraignment, that you made those statements? And she didn't give you permission to do that.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And so it's still more, it's still coming out? So just five minutes ago, there's more coming out that your voice is attached to? Let me first of all say, we have not released any statements to the press what's being quoted is what i said in court this morning we are not speaking or releasing anything and like i said to you earlier when you said what you said the quotes that came from the arraignment this morning you said you would you you made those
Starting point is 00:18:05 statements in order to give the what the enforcement to the the charges that you all were filing against mr porter she did not give you that she did not give you that information she did not tell you that information it is a circle violation for you to turn around and release her medical information. I'm happy to explain. So, first of all, the statements that are being attributed to her in the criminal court documents about her injuries, that is something that the police officer heard. And so whether he heard it or not to misrepresent that, that is still her confidential information. But you turn around and reiterated, you repeated it and set it for in the arraignment for the courts as if like it's something that you all were given consent to release and that was inappropriate and that was a violation
Starting point is 00:19:14 of her own personal rights for her medical history for the sake of your of your case yes so but you couldn't wait until she would sit down to have a conversation with you all. We could not legally wait. We are required to file the complaints within a certain number of hours. And who filed the complaint? Right. And so just because you weren't able to speak with her, who gave you authorization to what? To file the complaint. On behalf of whom? We are legally required to file a complaint within a certain amount of hours.
Starting point is 00:19:52 On behalf of whom? This is why. On behalf of whom? And I'm asking you a question. On behalf of whom? On behalf of the people of the state of New York. This is the job that we do. Okay, on behalf of the people of the state of New York.
Starting point is 00:20:04 All right, so there's about another three minutes of the York. This is the job that we do. Okay, on behalf of the people of the state of New York. Alright, so there's about another three minutes of the conversation. First of all, Kaiser, who is talking to the woman there? She is with the Manhattan DA's office, Myra Kerzer. She's the intimate partner
Starting point is 00:20:21 in Sexual Violence Bureau of the New York DA's office. So who's talking to her on that all-year recording? That is my mom. Okay, so your mother's talking to her. All right. A lot of times when we have these cases, and we've seen this numerous times, whether it involves athletes, entertainers, or even just regular ordinary folks, that women who have been victims of domestic violence often recant. You're saying here that what they describe as taking place, none of that happened? No, and I've never recanted a statement. I came out publicly.
Starting point is 00:21:04 My attorney spoke on my behalf two days after the event through baller alert, appreciating all of the community's support and prayers. But to please avoid speculation for evidence and allegations that have been reported are false and misleading. I released that information two days after the event. If you continue to play the audio, she specifically verbatimly states that because she did not talk to me, she had to bring forth some information to bring forth the elements of the case and elements of the crime against him, meaning that she cultivated her own narrative to make some type of false information to make stick to support the charges that she was bringing against Mr. Porter.
Starting point is 00:21:51 That as you can hear her say that she never got a chance to speak with me first. OK, your attorneys also this and your team sent us this. Go to my iPad here where y'all wanted uh the protective order lifted because uh as here it says there are many things that she has to discuss with him including finances moving possessions etc she would also like her actual physical condition be revealed and that there not be any exaggeration of what happened and that any prior incorrect statements be clarified and addressed on the 16th. Your attorney is offered to have a Zoom call to discuss this further.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And so I guess just what is, I'm just still trying to understand. Again, when I read a complaint and I see these things listed, one, the public often believes when, obviously, when the DA's office, police officers release information, there are assumptions that they actually talked to the individual involved. And so you're saying at no time that you actually, that they didn't interview you. So when they arrived, when the police arrived on the scene, because you said when he left, actually when you ran out, went down to the elevator and you went downstairs, he was under arrest.
Starting point is 00:23:13 At no time you sat down and actually talked to police, D's office, on the scene, at the precinct. Nothing was ever recorded, video or audio, nothing along those lines. They asked me at the scene as to what happened, and I told them I don't know. Clearly, I was in distraught. I had a lot of people around me telling me what they thought happened. When I was in the hospital room, they asked me to write down a statement. They asked me to record me to give a statement. I told them that I could not give one. I didn't feel comfortable doing that. They asked me to write a statement.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I asked them, I said, are you allowed to write a statement for me? They said, no, legally we are not allowed to. But then next thing you know, I see a criminal complaint that is spilled out by police officers. And I have a supervisor who called me in October and told me that the criminal complaint was spilled out by what officers believe to have happened at the time as I recorded that conversation as well. Who called the cops? How did they arrive at the scene? No, I don't know who called the cops. I didn't call the police. Your attorneys, so there's no 911 call or anything along those lines coming from the hotel or anything like that that you're aware of?
Starting point is 00:24:28 To be honest with you, Mr. Rowland, I don't know who called. I still don't know who called the police to this day. Shortly after it happened, your sister posted some comments on Instagram. She was absolutely angry at him for what allegedly happened.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Did you then shortly thereafter communicate with her? Because that post, obviously what she posted went viral because she was very angry at what allegedly happened. Yeah, so obviously she reacted in a way that the general public did with the information that was released without communicating with me or my mom at the time. I hadn't even spoken with my mom either until I got back to the hotel and was able to FaceTime her to see me that I was perfectly okay. So I can't penalize her for that. But once when she was able to connect with my mom and my mom was able to give her some insight that the things that were posted and falsely accused were not true, she removed the post. And so that's why they are no longer present. There are going to be folks who are watching this, who are hearing this, who are going to say this sounds like a young lady who was involved in a relationship who is trying to.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
Starting point is 00:27:20 We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing nonprofit, A Sense of Home. For 10 years, this charity has been creating homes for young people exiting foster care. It's an incredible organization.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Just days into the L.A. fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief program, providing fully functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires. Please get involved. Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to ascensivehome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild. It takes all of us. Protect him and his career. What do you say to folks who may believe that's the case? Yeah, this isn't about Kevin. This is about me. This is about the integrity of who I am, the woman that I've worked so hard to become, the name that I've worked so hard to create, and to not allow someone who's in a position to feel entitled or to feel empowered to be able to misrepresent my voice and who I am.
Starting point is 00:29:03 You know, with the district attorney's office jumping to conclusions that I would be on the same side as their injustice, it backfired. What they saw was an African-American male. They saw a professional athlete. They saw a young woman who was in complete distraught and speechless and shocked and still trying to process everything that's going around her and believe that it would be a win-win situation for both parties involved. One on their end, where it will catapult a career. It will make the storyline of the year. And on my end, where I would be gaining some, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:37 some money, you know, some type of increase and value, and it would be a win-win situation. But clearly, they didn't do the research of who I am and who I represent. This is about my employers. This is about me making sure that I come forward and speak my truth so that this isn't about me trying to win over the general public, but in my workplace, my circle, that I'm not going to allow someone to misrepresent who I am. And I don't believe in defaming someone else's character and integrity in order to add value to my work, to put out false information, to speak on my behalf, to cultivate injuries that never even occurred. I am an athlete. I have dreams of my own. I played in the WNBA before I met Kevin. He came along and helped add value to my life. But I was my own person. I am my own person.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And this isn't about protecting him. This is about protecting who I am and what I stand for. And to know that this could come at the hands of those that are supposed to protect and serve, to manipulate and to falsify evidence, to add value to their integrity and to not consider my own. It's completely defamatory, corruptive, and injustice. And that is why I'm speaking out and giving my testimony to my truth, because if they can do this to me and I'm supposed to be the victim, I can only imagine the countless of lives that they have done this to and try to cover up for. I have word for word of emails of a DA telling me after I've given her information and identify the injustice of whether or not she wants to disclose this information in a court of
Starting point is 00:31:22 law. This is a crime. This is a felony. No civilian can sit up on a court of law. This is a crime. This is a felony. No civilian can sit up on a stand and lie. No civilian can sit up on a stand and manipulate evidence. No civilian can sit up on a stand and try to generate an own narrative to bring forward charges against someone.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And to know that you have an assistant district attorney and other parties involved in the department that knew about it and did this in a court of law. This is a crime and they should not be above the law in any type of matter to be able to bring defamatory and completely stifle someone's life and ruin their career. And I'm talking about my own, not Kevin's. This is not the first time you talked. October 18th, uh, last month. Uh, go to my iPad. You posted this on your Twitter page where you said, uh, it has been deeply frustrating and disturbing
Starting point is 00:32:14 by the manipulation of what was stated by the prosecution. Then you said the harassment and eagerness for me to support these claims to justify their position and remarks is a matter an assistant D.A. took into her own hands while I was vulnerable, emotionally healing, and unavailable at the time of information being released." Do you want to see all of the charges
Starting point is 00:32:36 against Kevin Porter Jr. to be dismissed? I'm not in a position to make that. That's not my call. Right, right, right. You're not in a position to make that. That's not my call. Right, right, right. You're not in a position to make that. But if you are saying that the things in which he has been charged with did not happen, if you are saying that he didn't punch you in the face repeatedly, that he did not strangle you, that none of those things actually happened, then he is being wrongfully charged. So you're saying that
Starting point is 00:33:08 what they are alleging, what he's being charged with is absolutely, positively, 100% completely false. And if you're saying that, that means those charges should be dropped. Absolutely. That is why one of them have been dropped already, and they've already offered this man a plea deal of no jail time that they didn't report, but they have it out in the general public and to the media that he's still facing two charges. There's so much information that they're withholding
Starting point is 00:33:38 because they are refusing to take accountability for their actions and manipulating this entire case to catapult their own injustice. There's and I'm not trying to compare the two, but you have another case in the Manhattan DA's office involving actor Jonathan Majors. His attorneys have suggested that the DA's office has been grossly unfair. NYPD wanted to arrest the woman who filed a complaint against him. The DA's office say they're not going to prosecute. I can't...
Starting point is 00:34:12 And also, look, you have a DA in Manhattan, Alvin Bragg, who's African-American. And so I don't know what his involvement is in, you know, drilling down in these sort of individual cases. But I'm sort of struck by these two cases in particular, two high-profile African-Americans. They're lawyers obviously doing what this, you know, the lawyers doing what they were supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:34:36 But to hear you say that a complaint was filed, giving the impression that you said all of these things and a month after it happened, you say on your own Twitter account, it didn't happen. Here you are now a month later, it didn't happen. I think it did not happen. That clearly has to be angering you that the DA's office is just standing firm on this and by saying, well, we got a complaint, we have to prosecute, but you are the alleged victim who's saying it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah, I'm very angry. I'm disappointed. I'm shocked. You know, you never believe that things can happen to you until they happen to you, right? And so I try to, you know, put faith in my creator and giving me the peace and knowing that I was placed here for a reason, that there is purpose through this experience. And I'm realizing that it is to highlight the injustice of what really goes on behind closed doors
Starting point is 00:35:42 in these departments and with these prosecutors. And for me to record and to have these informations in writing and through email and through phone call conversations, I never did that with the intention of sitting here before you today sharing this information. I did that for my own personal safety, but I thank God that I did because I truly believe that without this evidence that no one would believe me, given the fact that information that's supposed to come from the DA's office, that's supposed to come from law enforcement, is supposed to be credible and factual. And to know that they can do this and withhold information and disregard information, it's very unsettling and it's disheartening and very disturbing. And I feel like it's my duty to come forth and talk about it because they've tried to defame the integrity of who I am to bring forth charges against someone that never did any of these things that they have against him. And the fact that they blatantly
Starting point is 00:36:46 know that, the fact that they're so arrogant and highlighting and apologizing to me for what they've done, but are refusing to do so to the general public. When I see information on social media, I'm just as surprised as everyone else because those aren't the conversations that we have behind closed doors with my attorney and the assistant district attorney's office. So at any point in this, in all of this, have you sat down with the Manhattan DA's office and done a formal interview? And have you, let's say that same complaint, have you filed anything with them under oath, under threat of perjury,
Starting point is 00:37:33 that these things did not happen? Has any of that happened? I never sat down in front of them. I did a Zoom call with them, expressing to them what happened a week later. That was the first time that I spoke to them. As you can see with the countless of phone calls and the emails, my attorney made them very aware that these things did not happen. Me highlighting this as a result of them dropping one of the charges. And after they come to find out that...
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, they said that he had fractured your vertebrae and then came out and said, no, that actually didn't happen. Yeah, and the thing about it is they knew that three weeks before they even released it. First of all, how do they even arrive at fracturing a neck vertebrae? Where did that even come from? If you heard on the phone, Mr. Rowland, the information that she received was by what a police officer overheard. So she's basing this evidence based on hearsay of what a police officer was ear hustling about what my injuries were and didn't wait until my records came back to identify that that was never
Starting point is 00:38:46 even okay okay i'm because again if somebody if if if i again if i'm a reporter okay and if i'm a journalist and but even if i wasn't if i hear police say um this woman suffered a fractured neck vertebrae. I'm instantly thinking she was checked out by paramedics. There was an x-ray. It showed that happened. You're saying there was
Starting point is 00:39:18 no fracture. There was nothing along those lines. There was no x-ray that that statement alone was based upon what a police officer heard. You hear her say that in the phone conversation, yes. And a doctor came forward to Fox News, who I don't even know who the doctor's name was, that came forth and said it was an article that he was unaware of where this information came from. But the thing that
Starting point is 00:39:46 they found was a congenital defect, I believe, in my spine, which I don't even know between you and I. I don't even know what that is. Maybe something that I was born with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen this in other athletes where they're born with that. That's later discovered when it comes to an insurance claim or whatever, because normally you don't have those deeply sort of intensive physicals, but yeah, go ahead. Yeah. And so to hear her say that on the phone, that that was a result of what a police officer heard, that's when it kind of woke me up. Okay, what else have you guys falsely, you know, cultivated a narrative on surrounding this case? And as the information that got released, it was on the hour, like new information was getting released by the hour. And I had no idea where this information came from.
Starting point is 00:40:41 But after a supervisor of the department told me on the phone that it's recorded, told me this in October, it is now November, that the criminal complaint was filled out by what officers believe they thought happened at the time, and that they apologized for the false narrative, and that they only want to move forward with the actual truth. This is a conversation they had with me that they have yet to release, and it is now almost the end of November. So, all right. Go to my iPad.
Starting point is 00:41:13 This right here is Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg. Yes. Are you and your attorneys, have you or are you requesting a meeting specifically with him regarding what some point to be able to have a conversation with him about the injustice that was happening and putting forth confidence in him, given the fact that he is an African-American male. But we have yet, you know, heard a response from anyone. I've also had my attorney call the supervisor, who was also a former prosecutor as well, and he has yet to hear anything back from them. So it's very unfortunate to believe and to know that the people that are supposed to protect my safety can bring forth harm
Starting point is 00:42:16 and completely be dismissive of a situation that was very traumatic to me. But they've added and compounded more trauma into my life than Kevin did. Again, there were about three different audio calls that your team sent to us. And I just want to, again, just show for folks, I'm not showing actual phone numbers or emails, but Robert Hantman or Hantman is your attorney. This is an email that is sent to
Starting point is 00:42:51 the Assistant DA October 15th. And dear Myra, thank you for your prompt response to us today. As we understand that the charges against Mr. Porter will be reduced tomorrow, it is important to our client that it be stressed that she was not responsible for the original complaint and allegations and
Starting point is 00:43:11 that she not be connected to it. So it doesn't look like she was the responsible, that she was the responsible for releasing incorrect information to the general public. She suggests the following, there's some additional language. So, if we're going back, September 11th, when this all came down, it was just the two of you in a New York hotel room. Argument ensued.
Starting point is 00:43:38 You're awakened by him. Security lets him in. You say you stood up on the bed and fell off of the bed, and that's how you cut your eye, right? Yes. You were like, okay, look, I'm asleep. Why is this dude yelling? Why is he screaming? What the hell is going on?
Starting point is 00:43:54 And so then you just run out of the hotel room, correct? Yes. You run to the elevator. The security who let him in is still at the elevator. Did you and that security officer ride down? Yes. And how long was it, you said, when you got down,
Starting point is 00:44:12 when you got downstairs, that cops were on the scene and they were going to arrest him? I don't know. I didn't find out that he was arrested until I was in the hospital. So when you went downstairs, you had a cut. What happened? Did someone call an ambulance and then the ambulance came and then you were taken to the hospital? Yes, which they left me unattended in the hospital for five to six hours. So you're in the hospital. At any point, is NYPD at the hospital taking notes talking to you?
Starting point is 00:44:48 No, there was nothing for me to give them. That's when they had asked me to do a written complaint. I told them that I couldn't fill it out at the time. That's when I asked, were they allowed to do so? They said, legally, they are not allowed to do so. And then they asked me if they could do a recording of me stating what happened. I told them I didn't feel comfortable doing that. I'm still trying to process everything. And I kept begging and pleading to them, can I get my phone? Can I get some form of contact to
Starting point is 00:45:13 be able to contact my family and my mom, which they left me unattended. They didn't let me know until after my discharge. Oh, by the way, this is all over the media, just so you know. I asked them, I said, who released this information? They said, well, legally, we are not allowed to. I said, but you guys are the only ones that are present. Yeah, well, legally, we're not allowed to. And the first post that I see is Kaiser Gondarczyk was hospitalized with severe bruising and a leak. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
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Starting point is 00:46:56 We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all
Starting point is 00:47:09 reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
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Starting point is 00:48:22 Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to ascensivehome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild. It takes all of us. It's one broken bone. The only people that were present were the police. To reiterate, you made it clear in this interview,
Starting point is 00:48:42 you are not doing this For Kevin Porter Jr. To absolve him of anything You're saying This is about you One Are the two of you still together? Because in your statement Go ahead
Starting point is 00:48:59 No, we're not together You're not together You haven't had any communication With him or his camp regarding any of this? No, I have not. There was also a protective order in place that didn't allow for that to happen. Is that protective order still in place? It has been currently lifted as to two weeks ago, and there has still been no contact. Gotcha. And again, your attorneys also wanted to be lifted
Starting point is 00:49:27 so the two of you could have, or your respective counsel could have discussions about things, I guess, y'all had jointly, possessions, homes, all things along those lines. Yes. You said earlier, and I wanted to come back to it, you talked about you're doing this for your sake, your name, and how you have been impacted.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Do you believe that as a result of this story, and it going national, and it going international, again, the NBA, the Rockets having no contact with him, essentially being suspended, they trade him, Oklahoma City cuts him. He's not picked up by anybody. It's all over. Do you believe that this absolutely has had a negative impact on you?
Starting point is 00:50:13 Your WBA player, you list as actress, as model on your Twitter. Do you believe this has negatively impacted you, even though you were the alleged victim? Right, absolutely. It has created a narrative that I support what happened to me based off of the false narrative that was put out there. It also, you know, degrades, you know, who I am, my employers, the things that I had set up before this situation happened, very big partnerships, that it now comes across that I am, you know, not integral. I'm not credible to work with. Are those, excuse me one second, Kaiser, are those partnerships, have they been placed on hold?
Starting point is 00:50:58 Everything in my life has been placed on hold because people want to know what is going on and what's the truth. And all I've asked for now, two months now, for them to take accountability for what they've done. And the fact that I have information, the fact that I came out with articles regarding since September the 12th, the incident happened on September the 11th, and it is now, I believe, November the, what, 14th, 15th, you know, that they still have yet to take accountability, that they're still, you know, promoting and falsifying information to the public in a court of law. That's the part where I'm appalled, you know, that they feel arrogant enough to withhold information and not include anything that I said. They disregarded my value. They disregarded, you know, my character and undermining that to elevate their own. This isn't about me winning over social media. I don't live a life based off of other
Starting point is 00:51:59 people's perception of me. Who I've been and just the career that I've had has, you know, forced me to become in a place where I've had to gain the wisdom and the strength to not allow other people's perceptions of me, let that have any value or merit to how I view myself on a daily basis. This is about me standing in my purpose. This is about the conversations that I have with God as to why am I here? Why is this being hyped up more than what it actually was? And to know that they could do this to someone. This isn't about Kevin I'm speaking about. To me, the victim, and not taking any merit as to a situation that only happened to me. And to try to, you know, fixate that into their own narrative, to bring forth charges against someone. I'm just truly appalled, to be honest with you,
Starting point is 00:52:52 Mr. Rowland. And I feel like it's necessary for me to come and speak my truth. You know, I'm a very strong Black woman. I haven't complained. I've taken my hits. You know, I have my days where I feel really empowered. You know, I feel untouchable. And then I have other moments where I can't even get out of bed, you know, and just trying to put one foot in front of the other. You know, me being a black woman, being raised by a black woman, you know, I'm going to figure it out. It's going to be OK. And I, you know, I'm not going to let any man do to me what they put out there. That's for certain. But at the same time, if it didn't happen that way, I'm not going to be silent about it either.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I have a younger brother. If someone did this to him, I would be very angry. I would be furious. And I would tell him to do the same thing that I'm doing. Don't allow someone else in your fear of their position to keep you silent. If anything, I hope that me speaking my truth on this platform encourages others to do the same that have been wrongfully accused or have been in a situation before that don't have my resources or the platform to do so. And that's why I feel like I'm here, you know, ultimately to get Kaiser's life back. Not, you know, Kaiser and Kevin, Kaiser's life back.
Starting point is 00:54:07 And I'm not going to and I'm not going to rest until there's justice that is served. You know, what they've done is a is a crime. It is a felony. They wouldn't allow us to get away with it. They're human, too. And I don't think that they should be above the law at all. And especially through experience. And in the year and a half, the two of you together, there was never an instance of any physical altercations, anything along those lines? Not at all. And it's unfortunate to know that the people, the organization, the Rockets, you know, just five days before this incident, we were out to dinner with the general manager and his wife. You had the owner of the organization say that out of all the players that he's ever had, that Kevin was by far his favorite. It goes to show you what they thought
Starting point is 00:54:57 about who we were together as a couple, that I wasn't, you know, detrimental to his career and he wasn't detrimental to mine. So it's disheartening to know that the false allegations that was put forth by someone who's supposed to be credible could add value and change the perception of how people just viewed us collectively and individually. It's unfortunate and it's sad. And I hope that, you know, as we're on our separate paths, you know, to just remain independent through these legal spaces and that hopefully, you know, restoration will give us a sense of peace
Starting point is 00:55:35 at some point. Well, Kaiser, you could have talked to a lot of folks. I appreciate you coming to us here at Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network to share your story. Please keep us in the loop. Hopefully you will hear back from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. I can tell you I'll be reaching out to him directly.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Also would love to hear from him as well with regards to this case and whether he will sit with you as well as your attorneys to talk about what you are calling a fraudulent account. You literally used those words in your Twitter post on October 18th, a fraudulent account by his assistant district attorneys. I appreciate it and I am thankful for you giving me this platform to share my truth thanks a bunch uh and you take care you do the same be blessed folks I'll be back talk to my panel about this you're watching Roller Mark Nunn Filtered right here on the Blackstar Network
Starting point is 00:56:39 have a great day. Happy birthday, Uncle Roro. What's up, David? Happy birthday. Just want to officially welcome you to the 55 and older retirement club. I'll have your AARP documents when you get to Houston next week. Love you, Matt. Hatred on the streets a horrific scene a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence white people are losing their damn lives there's an angry pro-trump mob storm to the u.s capital we're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen
Starting point is 00:57:25 white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women.
Starting point is 00:58:07 This is white fear. I just wanna say wish my friend a happy birthday. You know, I can't be there, but I know there will be a lot of folks there to represent me. Now, you're at an age where you can kind of mellow out a bit, keep on an uprise, or let everyone know who you are and where you are. But in any case, knowing you,
Starting point is 00:58:44 you're going to be doing all of that and more. And as you have a right, and you deserve to, my friend, so I wish you a very happy birthday with many happy and blessed returns of the day. And the fact that you're with Alba, I'm okay with that because you listen well to this good old mega man. So God bless you, brother. I love you. Keep up the vibe. Making it happen. Peace.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Folks, I want to welcome my panel right now. Glad to have them on the show. Robert Petillo, he is the host of People, Passion, Politics, 1380 W-A.O.K. out of Atlanta. Rebecca Carruthers, vice president of Fair Elections Center out of D.C. Joy Cheney, founder of J.O.I. Strategies out of D.C. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
Starting point is 00:59:44 But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:00:46 We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
Starting point is 01:01:06 We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
Starting point is 01:01:22 What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things stories matter and it brings a face to them it makes it real it really does it makes it real listen to new episodes
Starting point is 01:01:31 of the War on Drugs podcast season 2 on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to hear episodes one week early and ad free
Starting point is 01:01:41 with exclusive content subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing nonprofit, A Sense of Home. For 10 years, this charity has been creating homes for young people exiting foster care. It's an incredible organization. Just days into the LA fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief program
Starting point is 01:02:08 providing fully functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires. Please get involved. Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to asenseofhome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild. It takes all of us.
Starting point is 01:02:22 You see, Robert, I'll start with you. What do you make of what Kaiser Gondrzik just said in that 45-minute interview? Well, it's a tough subject matter. I've worked in a domestic relations court while I was in law school in Chicago, handled domestic cases for probably about the first five years of practice. And these cases are always tough, particularly when it comes to intimate partner violence. Often there is both financial and social pressure for the victim to make statements that are in support of the accused in the case. I do think there are some questions that the prosecution is going to have to answer with
Starting point is 01:03:02 regards to the information they've gathered and presented to the public. I found it interesting that she was not with her attorney, not with counsel while having this interview, not having someone to kind of help her navigate through some of the minefields of things that could be said. I found it interesting that there was not a contemporaneous physical examination that could have corroborated many of her statements, particularly as to, well, the injuries that took place and the causation thereof, that there were no pictures of the apartment or the crime scene that could help to indicate the nature of the altercation that took place, as well as witnesses or individuals who were with Kevin Porter and herself earlier in the night. They could talk towards their state of mind, towards their, if there was any ongoing arguments that happened beforehand. These are all things that we would want to present in a court of law in order to
Starting point is 01:03:48 create a circumstantial case around the accusations being made. Of course, none of us were there at the time of the incident took place, and therefore it will be up to the prosecution and to the judge and the jury there in New York. But it's, of course, a tragic situation to have a young man whose livelihood and career may be on the line based on something that, according to the alleged victim, did not occur. However, there has to be, in many cases, the state has to step in to protect the victim from themselves when victims feel that there is pressure upon them not to press charges against the assailant. So the prosecutor's
Starting point is 01:04:25 job in this case is very difficult. And I think there will be a searching inquiry taking place, particularly given the high profile nature of this. And I'm just hoping that all parties come to a resolution that is best for them. I think that the basketball career, the other parts of this, that's going to be completely secondary towards finding out exactly what the truth is in the situation and finding justice for all parties involved. Well, I think, I mean, look, Rebecca, I still look at this, you know, I get what Robert is saying. I've interviewed lots of people, and the attorneys have required themselves to be present. Her attorney wasn't present.
Starting point is 01:05:03 This was a 26-year-old woman who said, I can do this myself. I can speak for myself. This wasn't a statement that was posted just on social media. This was in her own voice. And in fact, guys, get this audio ready.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Myra Kerzer, and you heard her say this. You heard Kaiser say this. Myra Kerzer, and you heard her say this, you heard Kaiser say this. Myra Kerzer, an assistant district attorney at the Manhattan DA's office, she admitted in talking to Kaiser's mother that they put out the narrative, the narrative that was put out to the public was done so because Kaiser did not make a statement to the police. Listen. You said you needed to make those statements. You apologized for them. I made those statements in
Starting point is 01:05:57 order to, for the enforcement, for the charges that you were, that you all were arraigning him for. So in order to make that stick in order to make out the elements of the crime we had we put as little information on the record as we could but we did have to provide some information in order to make out the elements of the crime that's the job make out the elements of the crime what picture are you painting and trying to paint? Because it's also, and as you say from the police report or the policemen, because that's also a falsity. Where did she give anyone a statement that she was punched in the eye five times? If it is false, this is why we always want to speak to victims of crimes as quickly as possible. To make sure that we have everything correct,
Starting point is 01:06:45 to make sure that we are proceeding in a way that is true, that is most just, and that takes into account everything that our victims need. So in that, since you may not have that, then you are unjust in printing something that is inaccurate and that's what you all are doing i feel like what you're doing i'm so sorry for how difficult this has been i'm actually here with my supervisor at the moment would you like to speak to her no you all will just we'll talk at a later time so kaiser is on the phone and just on the record, she's not pressing any charges. So you do as you see fit, as you see will, she's not pressing any charges. So all of the false duplicitous statements that you've attached to her name for the procurement of your elements
Starting point is 01:07:40 to the case, you can do it as you see fit. She has not given you any statements and she is not filing any charges against the reporter. Unfortunately, you won't have her voice, nor will you have her cooperation. She is not filing any charges. You would like to say that? You can say that for the record, honey. I am not pressing any charges against Brian Porter Jr. And I did not give a consent, nor did I do a written statement, nor did I not do a video stating that everything that has been released or things that were stated in the arraignment came from me personally. I hear you. I absolutely hear where you're coming from. I would like you to come in and speak to us in person.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Can you come in and meet with us tomorrow? That is not happening. I said to you earlier about Kaiser and her, she's resting. And so she is in right now, she has a headache and this is overwhelming for her. You have implored beyond four times. Yesterday, you tried to implore her three times as I had to remind you, please do not ask anymore. She is resting. She had just returned into that space where she could come from the hospital to rest and you were continuing and persisting and insisting on trying to meet with her. You did not have her best interest at heart. It was all about you trying to get your paperwork and your documentation in by a certain constraint of time. So I don't think we have anything else
Starting point is 01:09:21 that we need to say or anything else that needs to be discussed. Kaiser, do you need anything else you need to say, dear? No, just that. Okay, you can hang up the phone. So, Rebecca, again, I've covered many of these stories, and we know the countless stories where a woman has been the victim of domestic violence and has recanted. Kaiser clearly stated to me that was not the case for her. But here's what I still find to be striking. How can you, as the DA's office,
Starting point is 01:09:56 how can you release information that you actually didn't get from the alleged victim. That's what's still standing out to me. How do you get all of these things happen? And look, I am a native of Houston. I grew up watching the Houston Rockets. The moment I saw this story, I was like, oh, get that son of a bitch
Starting point is 01:10:27 off of the Rockets team. So the narrative that they and guess what happened? He was immediately, can't be anywhere near the team. He was shortly traded to Oklahoma City. They
Starting point is 01:10:43 cut him. He's now out of the NBA and is in limbo from the NBA until after these legal proceedings. And so, but still, go back. They released a narrative of what happened that wasn't based upon actual facts from the person,
Starting point is 01:11:00 and there were only two people in the room. So, Roland, this is where it gets complicated when you have someone who's not willing to cooperate with police. So first of all, Kaiser doesn't need to fill out a report in order for charges to be pressed against Kevin. Like that's the first thing. It's the obvious thing, but it's just something that I want to point out. The second thing, based upon the police seeing how she looked, based upon her cognizance of their saying, hey, we think something happened here, so we're going to go ahead and arrest them. We're now going to figure out, based upon the evidence
Starting point is 01:11:41 that we're able to collect, based upon things we're able to see, and usually based upon the evidence that we're able to collect, based upon things we're able to see, and usually based upon the other person who's involved participating and letting them know, hey, this is what happened, this is what didn't happen. But it looks like here, Kaiser was not participating. She was not talking to the police. She was not talking to even their domestic violence unit. So instead, they looked at, oh, it sounds like what happened in the DA's office. They saw, okay, it looks like there's some injuries. These injuries based upon things we've seen before seems consistent with, you know, there could be some domestic violence here. So we're going to reach out to her and tell her, hey, please let us know if this was a domestic violence issue. At the point that she refused to participate in this part of the investigation,
Starting point is 01:12:31 they decided to move forth and arraigning him, charging him in arraigning based upon what they were able to see. So is that them saying that Kaiser affirmatively told us that Kevin beat her up? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Here's the actual here's the actual. And again, I'm not I'm just I'm going by simply what we know and what Kaiser said. This is the actual this is right here. This is the criminal court of the city of New York. The people, the state of New York against Brian Porter.
Starting point is 01:13:04 He's a defendant. Okay. This is the actual what we have here. This is what it says. The factual basis. No, let me go up to the top. They wrote in this complaint that was signed by a New York police officer on or about September 11, 2023, at about 613 a.m. inside one U.N. plaza in the county and state
Starting point is 01:13:27 of New York, the defendant, with intent to cause serious physical injury to another person, caused such injury to another person, the defendant, with intent to impede the normal breathing and circulation of the blood of another person, applied pressure on the throat and neck of such person, and thereby caused stupor, loss of consciousness for any period of time, and any other physical injury and impairment, the defendant, with intent to cause physical injury to another person, caused such injury to another person.
Starting point is 01:13:57 This right here is why I stopped you. They said, quote, the factual basis for these charges are as follows. I am informed by a person known to the district attorney's office, informant one, that she observed the defendant strike her repeatedly about the face with a closed fist, causing a laceration above her right eye and bruising and substantial pain to her face. I am further informed by informant one that she observed the defendant use his hands to apply pressure to her neck by forcefully squeezing it, causing her to experience difficulty breathing, redness and bruising to her neck, and substantial pain. I am informed by police officer Komiko Kataloratov, SHIELD 24212450, 17th Precinct,
Starting point is 01:14:57 that she was present when medical staff at NYU Langone Medical Center discussed with informant one the results of medical testing revealing that informant one suffered a fractured vertebrae in her neck. So, and this is, if you go down here, it says signed by police officer Patrick Amato on September 11, 2023. So, the officer is literally saying she told him these things. This is where I'm confused. She says, I didn't
Starting point is 01:15:32 talk to him. The assistant DA is on tape saying we didn't get a statement from here. So now I go back to how do you arrive at these very specific things that she never said? Right.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And at that point, her attorneys need to file and even you confirmed that the DA's office had dropped one of the charges, the fractured vertebrae charge that they dropped that. One thing that I thought was interesting from her interview with you is that she mentioned that he did not intentionally try to harm her. One of the things I was looking for was whether or not she was saying if he harmed her at all, whether it was intentionally or unintentionally. It's clear that something, it might not have been domestic violence. It may have been as simple as she mentioned, standing on the bed, being disoriented, falling over, hitting her face. It is clear that she left that hotel room and there was some type of visible injury, some type of visible injury that caused an ambulance to be called for her to be evaluated and then sent to the hospital to be evaluated. Generally with domestic violence altercations,
Starting point is 01:17:08 when police are involved, there are pictures taken. So I am curious to see if there's video, if there's pictures. And I think the Manhattan DA needs to answer and address that at this point. Joy, that's why I asked her, was there a physical assault? She said no. She said that, so, in her words, she said that, hey,
Starting point is 01:17:33 he came in, arguing, yelling, had been drinking. She's like, why in the hell are you tripping? She says she jumped up on the bed, falls over, hits her head. She's trying to figure out why is he going off, and then she runs out of the room because she says she's disoriented. Again,
Starting point is 01:17:49 as somebody who's in the media, we... This is the thing that is critically important. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
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Starting point is 01:19:54 It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing nonprofit, A Sense of Home. For 10 years, this charity has been creating homes for young people exiting foster care. It's an incredible organization. Just days into the LA fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief program, providing fully
Starting point is 01:20:34 functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires. Please get involved. Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to asenseofhome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild. It takes all of us. And Robert, as attorney, understands this as well. Narratives are critically important. Because, Joy, when the narrative is established from the outset, it's hard to walk that thing back.
Starting point is 01:21:00 The narrative that was released by the DA's office, and with this statement, this was the narrative. Kevin Porter, troubled NBA player, who had issues on... attitude issues with the Rockets, attitude issues with Cleveland, attitude issues when he was in, uh, was in college, daddy who was shot and killed. Kevin Porter beat the shit out of this woman when he was in college, daddy who was shot and killed,
Starting point is 01:21:26 Kevin Porter, beat the shit out of this woman in New York. Bruised face, fractured her neck, his ass should be kicked out of the NBA. That was literally the narrative. For me, again, listening to Kaiser,
Starting point is 01:21:42 listening to what she said, listening to the recording, and seeing this statement, I to what she said, listening to the recording and seeing the statement, I still don't get how do you list that she said these things if we now see she never actually said it. You assuming is one thing, but giving the impression that she actually said it, that's totally different. Totally different. Kaiser was failed and it, that's totally different. Totally different. Kaiser was failed, and it sounds like Kevin was failed by the justice system in this case and so many others. She's absolutely right that this is not just about her or him. This is about the broader issue.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I also want to say that her attorneys, if she has them, I wish they were here tonight, and I wish that they had been on the phone with the DA instead of her mother. That whole scenario leads me to some other questions about who's in control of this conversation, and is Kaiser's voice really being heard as well. And I think that she does need to be spoken to alone with an attorney and with the DA's office. But if, in fact, what she's saying is true, they need to be looking with the attorney general, but they also need to be talking about the officer. Officer Amato, where, I mean, the things that he put forth seemed very
Starting point is 01:23:12 specific. And if that didn't happen, then that wasn't a true statement. And listen, like Robert, I totally hear what you're saying about when individuals who are involved in domestic violence cases, again, I remember when Warren Moon went on trial and was found not guilty of assaulting his wife,
Starting point is 01:23:35 and she was in court and she was exuberant and was praying, but she was the one who they alleged was the one who had gotten beat. We've seen this. We've seen cases where women have recanted the stores. We've seen that. I guess what's, again, as somebody who just, who operates in a world of facts, how do you make the claim she said it, but now we know she never said it?
Starting point is 01:24:02 And how... Well, I think that's what the officer... How? Yeah. I think the officer had some explaining to do. Robert, I don't understand it. Well, so I think we're dealing with two different things when we say, did she say it or not?
Starting point is 01:24:16 Now, she said that she did not have an official statement. She did not sit down with an officer when they took down her statement and then that was transcribed and put into the report. That does not mean she did not say it directly to the officer, maybe in an excited utterance or said it to the security personnel that went down the stairs with her or was in the elevator with her. That's a fact-specific inquiry.
Starting point is 01:24:36 No, no, no, no, no. The DA, the assistant DA, they had, and we had the recording, where she apologized. She apologized for what was the details that were released because, cue it up, because I want to hear it in her own words. Cue it up. Because she apologized saying that that was released because we didn't have a chance to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:25:04 So why are you releasing information? Listen, you can, there can be, and again, a person does not have to be immediately arrested and perp walked. You can actually have an investigation and they can be a person of interest or whatever, and you can say there's an ongoing investigation, do your investigation, they can be later
Starting point is 01:25:33 arrested. That's not what happened here. It was like, yo, September 11th that morning, he was let out in handcuffs, boom, that story dropped. Go. And this is why I'm saying that it's a fact-intensive inquiry. The security personnel
Starting point is 01:25:50 that she said let him into the room that went down the elevator, Walter, is that the person who made the statement to police as to what happened? No, no, no, no, no. That's not... No, no, no. I'm giving you hypotheticals as to what... No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going by hypotheticals. I'm going by what's in the... No, no, no. Robert, Robert, Robert. Hypothetical to what? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going by hypotheticals. I'm going by what's in the side.
Starting point is 01:26:09 No, no, no. Robert, Robert, Robert. Hypothetical is what we use when we don't we don't have. We have right here the actual statement from the cop who says I am informed by informant one. Now, here's that that she up. OK, here's the problem. When I first read this, it sounded like somebody else was in the room. But it says, I am informed by a person known to the district attorney's office, informant A, that she observed the defendant strike her repeatedly about the face with a closed fist.
Starting point is 01:26:35 That means the cop is saying, Kaiser informed me that Kevin hit her in the face. Okay, so what I'm saying, Roland, is now the officer may be saying that this was an incited utterance. They were in the ambulance headed to the hospital. He was in the hospital room with her. No, no, Robert.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Robert, none of that's in here. But hold on. But then when it was time to make a formal report, she did not make a formal report. That's the only point that I'm making. What I'm saying is a fact intensive inquiry. And then before. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Robert, I get it.
Starting point is 01:27:11 You're adding stuff to it that rotate. I need to hear this. Be the case. All we want to proceed on is what is accurate, obviously. Right. So and I understand and I know that you guys have been through and discussed what had happened in the past and where that came from from what the doctors had said and when that the complaint was drafted that you have seen that was based upon the information that they're believed to be true and accurate
Starting point is 01:27:38 at the time she definitely understands as we all do now, you know, that your injury was preexisting and was not caused as part of this incident. But that was not something that was known at the time. And again, we apologize as, you know, an office. We strive to do our very best, as certainly I know Mira does in every single case. Put that on pause. Put that on pause. OK, here's what I want to put that on pause. She said that wasn't known at the time. Again, I guess here's my problem.
Starting point is 01:28:08 This is just my problem here. The affidavit was signed on September 11th at 2150. That's when it was signed, okay? They say in here that they were present, a cop was present, when the medical staff told her that she suffered a fractural vertebrae in her neck. they say in here that they were present, a cop was present, when the medical staff told her that she suffered a fractal vertebrae in her neck. So they came to that conclusion. So they're in here.
Starting point is 01:28:36 The reason why I just think this is critically important, and again, I'm not taking, I don't know Kaiser, I don't know Kevin Porter, I don't know any of these people. But the reason I do think it is important is because we do know examples where there are prosecutors who want to convict people. And they want a notch in their belt. And we've seen these things happen. When Kaiser says they offer him a plea deal,
Starting point is 01:29:03 what do we know as African Americans? That black people have taken plea deals who actually didn't commit crimes in order to just put it behind them. If you're Kevin Porter and you're sitting here facing
Starting point is 01:29:20 time in jail or a hundred million dollar NBA contract, you might take a plea deal just to restart your career. That's why I just believe facts are important, and I would hope that Alvin Bragg sits with them because if what she's saying did not happen, and again, she's saying I'm not protecting Kevin Porter.
Starting point is 01:29:46 We know what happens in domestic violence cases. I just believe that the Manhattan DA's office needs to be focused on facts. What actually happened. And if there was a rush to judgment here, and if they released a narrative that didn't happen, Kevin Porter Jr. should not be facing prosecution. And so we'll see how this thing rolls out. But I'm just a little bothered when somebody says, I am informed by a person known to the DA's office, informant one, that she observed the defendant strike her repeatedly. I am further informed by informant one that she observed the defendant use his hands to apply pressure to her neck by forcefully squeezing it,
Starting point is 01:30:38 causing her to experience difficulty breathing, redness and bruising to her neck, and substantial pain. When I hear that, it sounds to me like she told the cops that. And if she didn't, why was this put into a complaint? And I go back to the line right here, above the cop's name. False statements made in this written instrument are punishable as a Class A misdemeanor pursuant to section 210.45 of the penal law and as other crimes.
Starting point is 01:31:10 So either the cop is wrong and he put something that wasn't right, or she is saying this now to protect Kevin Porter Jr. It's either one of two things. So we'll see it actually what happens. Going to a break. We'll come back. Gary Chambers talks about the Louisiana and I'll talk about Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton,
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Starting point is 01:32:49 You know, Grandma Betty always said double nickel. So happy double nickel birthday. This is a milestone. I can't believe that you're 55. And we decided to do a little bit something real quick, the last minute, to highlight from when you were little. You were always involved in something, you and your siblings. That's why I named you Roland, because you just keep on rolling. Yeah, when I was in labor, it was only three, three and a half hours, and you were out, and that was it.
Starting point is 01:33:24 So we just are very, very honored to be your parents. We're humbled to be your parents. And we just pray that the years to come where you will still continue to find favor with God and we will always be praying for you. We're proud of you, son. Love you. Keep on rolling. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,
Starting point is 01:34:22 have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.
Starting point is 01:34:43 From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1,
Starting point is 01:35:09 Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast.
Starting point is 01:35:32 We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care
Starting point is 01:35:48 for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer
Starting point is 01:36:03 Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 01:36:13 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 01:36:22 or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing nonprofit, A Sense of Home. For 10 years, this charity has been creating homes for young people exiting foster care. It's an incredible organization. Just days into the LA fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief
Starting point is 01:36:53 program providing fully functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires. Please get involved. Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to asenseofhome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild. It takes all of us. Happy birthday, Uncle Roro. We love you. Happy birthday, Kareem. Hey, brother. What's up, Roland? I just wanted to wish you a happy birthday, and I hope you're enjoying your special day. Peace. Folks, on Saturday, voters in Louisiana go back to the polls. There is a runoff election there for several statewide and local races.
Starting point is 01:37:54 One closely watched race is between Nancy Landry and Gwen Collins Greenup for the Louisiana Secretary of State job. Now, the state's office that holds the highest legal authority is between Liz Baker Murrell and Lindsay Cheek. John Fleming and Dustin Granger are battling for the state treasurer's job. Joining us now from Baton Rouge to discuss the election is Gary Chambers Jr., activist there. Carol, which one of these folks we try to reach out to
Starting point is 01:38:16 and they won't come on the show? Okay, all right. So, because we've got folks out of Mississippi. All right, all right. So, let me know, because we reached out, because the folks in Louisiana need to be trying to come on here and get some dadgum votes. So they need to do that real quick. It's Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:38:34 The election is Saturday. They need to get the word out. And to me, that's part of the deal. I get if you're campaigning locally in the state, Gary, but if you got an opportunity to be doing national media interviews, you need to do that because it's not like folk don't know folk in Louisiana. That's a fact, Roland, and when you only had 8,000 black folks show up to early vote in Baton Rouge, you definitely need to be talking to more people and getting people out to vote
Starting point is 01:39:02 and getting people encouraged about your campaign because not enough people are engaged. Only 8,000 black folks in Baton Rouge went to vote, 6,000 in New Orleans, 6,000 in Caddo, which is where Shreveport is. In Washington, 1,300 black people went to vote. Roland, in St. John the Baptist Parish, 2,073. In Lafayette, 3,037. And in Rapides, 1,072 people went to early vote in an election. And to put that into perspective, there's 127,000 black people in Baton Rouge that are registered to vote. 8,000 of them went to vote. You know, I...
Starting point is 01:39:40 Look, we've talked about these Louisiana Democrats. Did we try to get the Democratic Party chair to come on? She ain't going to come on. No, she ain't going to come on. We tried. Call her ass every day. Call her tomorrow and Friday. What's her name?
Starting point is 01:39:56 Katie Bernhardt. You know, she should resign, Roland. She should resign. When you have numbers like this, New Orleans has 142,000 registered black voters. 6,772 showed up to vote. Caddo, Paris has 72,000 registered black voters, 6,318 of them showed up to vote. The only thing that is in the 318 that they're doing is playing around because they also have
Starting point is 01:40:21 a sheriff's race coming up right now where a guy is talking about bringing in Stoppin' Frist in the street for him, right? And so 6,000 black folks went to vote when you got a man who's on the ballot right now that is going to bring Stoppin' Frist back that has openly said this on your news station, but Katie Bernhardt and the Democratic Party, we can't find her.
Starting point is 01:40:39 But not just Katie Bernhardt and the Democratic Party. The senators and state representatives who had an easy ride by not being challenged, we have not seen them mobilizing people, and the proof is in the numbers. If they were doing the work, it would show up in the tally of voters. Yeah, and when you got
Starting point is 01:40:55 runoffs, you don't have as many people, so you can actually concentrate your efforts on the runoff there. It's as if folks just, Louisiana, they just gave up. It is disappointing because you have Jeff Landry, who has won the governor's race, who has already started the transition committee
Starting point is 01:41:14 that is just focused on New Orleans. Now, New Orleans has some of the lowest-verdant turnout, and the new governor is going to be focusing directly on you. But you have the ability to prevent him from getting there. And now there's an opportunity on Saturday, if people show up, to put in checks and balances by having Gwen Collins bring up as the secretary of state, having Lindsey Cheek as the attorney general, having Dustin Granger as the treasurer. But not just that. We've got Cedric Glover running for a Senate seat in Shreveport. We've got Darryl Joy Walters running for a state rep seat in Shreveport.
Starting point is 01:41:46 And Charter Banks in Schuylerville here in Baton Rouge will be a slugger in the legislature against Jeff Landry if we put her in there. But people have to show up and do their job for the people who have put their names on the line and will go down there and fight. We always talk about who's going to fight for us. There are people willing to fight for you. There are people willing to write meaningful legislation, but they can't win if 6,000 people
Starting point is 01:42:08 in the whole damn city showed up to vote. Um, look, you got, uh... So, I saw one story that Jeff Landry, who's attorney general, who's gonna be the next governor, is already talking about withholding funds from New Orleans if the local D.A. does not prosecute abortion cases. Is that true? There were things that Jeff Landry did as attorney general that people believe that
Starting point is 01:42:30 he's going to carry out as governor. That is somewhat some speculation, but he has created a transition committee focused on New Orleans. He has talked about crime being a major issue for him. You know, last year at some point, New Orleans was listed as the most murderous city in America. And so when you look at this, Jeff Landrieu should be focused on economics and how do we improve the economy of Louisiana, because our economy ranks number 50. You can't police your way out of this. But to people in New Orleans who are sitting on their tails and not going to vote and spending a lot of time watching the Keith Carroll show, you should get up and go vote, because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:43:07 Keith Carroll and the internet ain't going to save you from the changes that are going to come when state police is harassing you in your community. And so the people who have these platforms in our community, they are great voices and we appreciate them, but we got to encourage our people to go do their part. You know, Rebecca, this is the thing that I have been talking about incessantly.
Starting point is 01:43:27 I'm looking at next year. I'm hearing a lot of people out here saying, and I keep trying to convey to our people, you can't be on one hand complaining about what's not happening and what you want and what should be happening. You can't be complaining about, well,
Starting point is 01:43:50 Biden didn't get criminal justice reform without understanding, has to pass the House, has to pass the Senate, has to come to them. The Judge Floyd Justice Act passed the House, stalled in the Senate. He can't sign nothing unless it comes through the Senate. And so, and I sit here and go, okay, so now if you're mad about that, step back and go, okay, where was the block?
Starting point is 01:44:13 Republicans now control the House. They ain't even brought up the George Floyd Justice Act. So sitting out an election again, to me, is about the dumbest thing in the world. It doesn't make sense. Just with the power of the number of black folks in Louisiana, they could definitely turn the state around.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Something that's important and a question I even would ask for Gary is that the Democratic Party in Louisiana is a mess. The current chair wasn't properly recruiting candidates, raising money, doesn't appear to be showing up in the different communities. The previous chair of the party is in prison for stealing money from the party. So it's been years, even decades, of ineptness with the party. So I am curious to even hear from Gary, like, what's next for him? Is he going to take over the party? Is he going to work as an activist across the state? Because it has to be local people in Louisiana that's helping pulling together Black communities to make sure that Black communities stay politically engaged and actually using their outsized voice that they can have in Louisiana.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Well, I definitely don't want to run the party. I think that there are other people who have the bandwidth to do that, and I don't want that many bosses who haven't done the work to tell me how to do the work. For me, I think that what we need is a leader who has the capacity to raise money and somebody who's not afraid to do the hard work of touching the voters in these communities around the state. I launched an effort called Civics for the People, which is a voter education effort, because at the end of the day, one of the reasons a lot of people don't participate is they don't even understand half of what Roland just broke down, that this is the process that goes through in order to pass a
Starting point is 01:46:03 bill, in order to make things happen in our community. These are the roles that each person does. When I was running for Congress, I had people asking me about things that your city council members should do, right? If people don't have an understanding of what the government does, then they're not going to participate in the process just because we say vote. And so that has been a key effort for me, voter education. But someone like me has to be able to raise the resources to do that. And so I'm one individual doing that work. But the Democratic Party has the bandwidth to do that on a larger scale. And Cedric Richmond helped put Katie Bernhardt there as the chair of the party. And the party is failing. And so people like Cedric, who
Starting point is 01:46:39 have the ear of the president, they are ignoring this state while focusing on states like South Carolina. And Louisiana has a higher population of black people than South Carolina, but we're ignoring this state. Joy. Yes, I'm here. Look, one of the questions I have for you, Gary, is one, I think Rebecca's right. You need to consider it. But two, what do you need organizations to do who are working alongside you? Do you find that the major groups, the NAACP, the NUL, the sororities, the fraternities,
Starting point is 01:47:12 how are they engaging with you in this work? Even though they are nonpartisan, obviously they have a vested interest in making sure we have the right people elected who carry out their views and their values and their causes and cares. What do we need to be doing on the ground in a nonpartisan way to get people educated and then you ask them to vote? Well, when you talk about the Divine Nine specifically,
Starting point is 01:47:35 we need Black leaders who aren't afraid to take positions on voting. Uh, that they organize outside of the bandwidth of their organizations and actually get into the communities and touch people. When you talk about the legacy organizations, I can say the NAACP has been one of the most active organizations in the state. We're trying to mobilize people, but they need more resources in order to expand that work, in order to touch more people. They also need younger people involved.
Starting point is 01:48:00 We've got to find ways to touch younger people and get them involved because there are ways that we're just not talking to people digitally. We're not activating people in a real-time way. And as a result, we're missing tons of people. When I ran for office, people asked me, how did I do so well making less money, raising less money than the candidates I ran against? I was on TikTok talking to young people in ways that other candidates were not. And so when you don't have the resources, how are you being creative with the tools that you do have to contact the people within your community? And whether you're mobilizing 10 people or 10,000 people, if you're mobilizing people, you're making an impact. Robert? Gary, thank you so much for all the work that you're doing, being so active on the ground.
Starting point is 01:48:42 One of the things that we had here in Georgia was a very similar situation demographically to what Louisiana has. We have over 30 percent African American population. Demographically, on paper, the state should be a purple state, but we were a deep red state because of voter suppression for the better part of 30 years. And a big part of that was the lack of registration for African Americans in the state. We had, at one point in time, 300,000 unregistered black voters in the state completely eligible to vote, just not registered. I anticipate there are probably similar numbers in Louisiana. What efforts are being made to register those unregistered Black voters and then to turn them out at the polls? Well, brother, I don't think we necessarily have a registration effort. We have 937,000 registered Black voters. And I just told you, we had less
Starting point is 01:49:26 than probably 50,000 of them show up to early vote. It is a mobilization effort here in Louisiana. It is a resource deficit here in Louisiana. What has helped us in a tremendous way is being able to talk to people and connect to people. But if you don't have the resources to talk to more people and connect with more people, that's just the limitation and the cap. I can tell you that they're a qualified candidate. Sean Wilson was a hell of a candidate that ran for governor. He had $3 million, right? And so when you talk about how did Raphael Warnock become successful in Georgia, he had $80 million, right? You cannot compete in these races with bare-bones funding and think that these candidates are going to be able to be successful.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Gwen Collins Greenup, this is her third time running for Secretary of State. The last time she made the runoff, she had $10,000. She got 44% of the vote with $10,000. Well, now, that says a whole lot. Well, we'll see what happens. I hope black folks turn out. Again, I just keep saying, folks, politics is not the be-all to end-all,
Starting point is 01:50:36 but you won't get a damn thing if the people in power aren't the folks who give a damn about you. That's a fact, Roland. And, you know, politics touches every part of your life. Whether you want it to or not, ignoring it doesn't mean that it's ignoring you. They're taking your money out of your check every two weeks, and they're putting it into a pot, and they're deciding where that money goes.
Starting point is 01:50:59 And if you're complaining about the streets and the parks and the schools in your community and wondering why there's not more investment, there's not enough people in your community showing up, when it counts, and one of the simplest things to go around the corner from your house and show up to vote to ensure that there are people down there advocating to make sure that resources come to your community. And if you want to be like the
Starting point is 01:51:18 people that are billionaires and millionaires, they are all involved in politics. Why aren't you? As I always say, voters, shut the hell up. Gary Chapman, we appreciate it. Happy birthday, brother. Thanks a bunch, brother. I appreciate it. All right, folks, we come back.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Senator Tom Cotton. Oh, now he cares about black people. Y'all know his ass line. I'm going to break it down next on Roller Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. Happy birthday, Roland. I hope you're having a great day. You deserve it all.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Shout out to the ultimate alpha man. Thank you for everything that you do day in and day out for the Black community. We love you. We appreciate you. You are a legend. And I hope you enjoy your day. Sending you all the love and light.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Happy birthday, Uncle Werner, from your favorite oldest niece. I hope you enjoy your 55th birthday and you have many more to come. Thanks for all that you do. Next on The Black Table with me, Greg Carr. We welcome the Black Star Network's very own Roland Martin, who joins us to talk about his new book, White Fear,
Starting point is 01:52:36 how the browning of America is making white folks lose their minds. The book explains so much about what we're going through in this country right now and how, as white people head toward becoming a racial minority, it's going to get, well, let's just say even more interesting. We are going to see more violence. We're going to see more vitriol because as each day passes, it is a nail in that coffin. The one and only Roland Martin on the next Black Table, right here on the Black Star Network. Happy birthday, Uncle Roro. I know you're going to come for my hair, but I'm studying for finals, so I get a pass.
Starting point is 01:53:21 I don't want to hear comb your hair. I don't want to hear about being ashy. And if you're so concerned about everybody being ashy, I'll give you some lotion for Christmas. So have a great day. Don't be rude to people. Play your music loud. Do your little Scorpio thing.
Starting point is 01:53:41 But whatever. Have a good day, Rockhead Uncle. That was my niece, Chloe. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
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Starting point is 01:55:13 We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player,
Starting point is 01:55:22 Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote
Starting point is 01:55:37 drug ban. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 01:55:54 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing
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Starting point is 01:56:48 It takes all of us. And so, Chloe, I will have some lotion for your little ass, your ass, when I see you next week for Thanksgiving, just letting you know. All right, y'all. So, y'all already know, I hate cigarette smoke. I can't stand cigarette smoke, y'all. I'm allergic cigarette smoke. I can't stand cigarette smoke, y'all. I'm allergic to smoke. It's gotten in my system before and it
Starting point is 01:57:09 just flat out drives me crazy. So, I ain't got no problem standing with the people who are against who are against menthol cigarettes. But you know what? I can't stand. I can't stand when somebody who don't give a damn about black people
Starting point is 01:57:30 all of a sudden wants to take a shot at the Biden administration and they want to pimp black people while trying to do it. So I'm talking about Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton. Now, this is the man, y'all, who said that he opposed the First Step Act. He said we should be putting more people in prisons. This is the same SOB who attacked Pentagon Secretary, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin,
Starting point is 01:58:00 against DEI, who is always attacking stuff in the interest of black people. This is the same SOB who sent a letter to law firms the week after the Supreme Court affirmative action decision saying that their programs would be violating the Constitution. Just decided on his own. Like his little simple ass got some power. So this fool tweeted this today, and I had to deal with it. Pull a tweet up.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Pull a tweet up. He goes, Joe Biden wants to ban menthol cigarettes, which are favored by black smokers. Meanwhile, he wants to legalize weed for white college kids and mail out free crack pipes. Pull the next one up because there's two of them, right? Okay, all right, because I thought there was another one that he had posted. And I saw that and I was like, I know this punk didn't.
Starting point is 01:59:07 And yeah, I'm calling him a punk because that's what he is now Senator Tom Cotton don't give a damn about the black voters in Arkansas he don't care all he cares about are his hardcore no that guy that was a second tweet. Okay? Hold on. Just stay right there because I need to blow this up. That was a second tweet. Y'all got to come on now. All right. Just go to my iPad. His second tweet was, hold on.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Let me connect it. So before I go. Yeah, that was a second tweet. Second tweet. Go ahead. The administration's ban is paternalistic, it's hypocritical, Yeah, that was the second tweet. Second tweet. Go ahead. The administration's ban is paternalistic, it's hypocritical,
Starting point is 01:59:51 and it creates a huge black market for Mexican cartels in Hezbollah. And all because Mike Bloomberg told him to. Y'all, Tom Cotton don't care about black people. Joey, he ain't fooling nobody with this here. And so all of a sudden, Tom Cotton, oh, they want to get menthols which black people like. Now, Tom Cotton ain't said nothing how the tobacco companies have been targeting black people
Starting point is 02:00:17 over the last five decades. Tom Cotton ain't said nothing about how menthol cigarettes are the more addictive out of all cigarettes and how 82%—see, he ain't talk about none of that. But now all of a sudden, oh, it's paternalistic for them to want to ban menthols, want to legalize weed for white kids. We know exactly what this punk doing.
Starting point is 02:00:43 And trust me, Tom Cotton is not a friend of black America. Tom Cotton is the biggest liar on the hill. And there are a lot of liars on the hill. And I don't use incendiary comments, but Tom
Starting point is 02:01:00 Cotton, guys, if you remember, is an insurrectionist. At least he supported them and was willing to overthrow the election, not certifying it. Was willing to do that. He doesn't care about Black people. He actually doesn't care about anyone. So I hope that not only are Black people not falling for his mess, but no one should be. He pulled together, strung together all kinds of words. I bet it was a test for he and his staff. How do we get menthol, white kids, black kids, Hezbollah,
Starting point is 02:01:34 and Bloomberg all in the same tweet series? He's a joke. And see, here's the thing here, Robert, as it layers. So the proposed ban on menthol is going to go after the production as well as the distribution of menthol cigarettes. He's trying to make it sound like black people going to be walking around, man, I need to get that menthol cigarette. I need to get that menthol cigarette. And so now he ain't said nothing about the thousands of black people who die every year because of menthol cigarettes. See, Mr. Pro-Life don't say nothing about that. Well, I also did not know that Hezbollah was selling loose squares down by the train tracks or down by the green line. I was unaware of the Mexican cartel dealing cools
Starting point is 02:02:26 and Joe Campbell down at Five Points or anything like that. But I say, look, Tom Cotton will make a deal with you since you're bought and sold by the tobacco lobby. We'll trade you menthol cigarettes if you vote in favor of universal health care to handle the health issues that come from the cigarettes you think are so important. Or we will trade you menthol cigarettes if you will release all the African-Americans
Starting point is 02:02:49 who are currently serving prison sentences, both on the state, local and federal level, for marijuana and other drug-related crimes. You release them, you can keep all the menthol cigarettes that you want. We will trade you menthol cigarettes because you're bought and sold and paid for by the tobacco lobby. If you will give us free early childhood education so we can help educate kids out of wanting to use those cigarettes and explain the health concerns around them. There are plenty of things that we will trade you. But what he is really saying is that because the profits of the tobacco companies are in danger, because the health of tobacco companies is more important than the health of African-Americans.
Starting point is 02:03:27 He wants to use dog whistles in order to make it seem as though the regulations that are being put in place to help save the lives of black folks are somehow deleterious to it. He doesn't concern himself with that writ large. I was in a very similar argument from our black conservative friends where they say, well, all this money is going to Ukraine that could be going toward reparations. Then you have the follow-up question, are you saying you support reparations? Well, no, but I'm just trying to make the point. That is the only thing he's trying to do here. They're trying to discredit the president who's trying to save Black people's lives by using these canards in their place. And as I said, I'll be more than happy to negotiate with him so that he can keep the menthol cigarettes.
Starting point is 02:04:07 But there's a few things on the list of legislation that black folks are going to need in exchange for his little cancer sticks. Hey, you know, Rebecca, go to my iPad. Um, hmm. Tobacco companies gave $1.5 million to Trump inaugural and ramped up lobbying. They want to roll back FDA oversight
Starting point is 02:04:27 of e-cigarettes and cigars. This is from Matthew Myers, the president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids from April 21, 2017. Hmm, I wonder who Tom Cotton is in the pocket of. I'm sorry, you cannot be white, defend slavery as a necessary evil, have the last name Cotton, and then try to
Starting point is 02:04:50 tell me you care about black folks. Like, come on, Tom. Like Joyce said, he is one of the worst in the Senate. And that is such a low bar. That bar is in hell. And he's one of the worst. That's exactly it is. And so I just needed to
Starting point is 02:05:04 I need to point that out because Tom Cotton is an absolutely despicable person, a despicable individual. Go ahead. For the record, nothing that the Biden
Starting point is 02:05:22 administration did to ban menthol cigarettes would create any carceral repercussions for anyone who smokes menthol cigarettes. So you don't have to worry about that. They didn't say that if you were smoking those cigarettes, you're going to go to jail or anything like this. It's about the production of menthol cigarettes that have been proven to be incredibly dangerous
Starting point is 02:05:47 and result in death for anyone who smokes them, predominantly African Americans. It is about health. It is not about the criminal justice system. But see, what was so arrogant here is, oh, he want to ban the cigarettes
Starting point is 02:06:04 for black people, but he want to get legalized marijuana for white kids. It's been legal for white kids. Huh? It's been legal for white kids. What is he talking about? Tell me how many white kids
Starting point is 02:06:20 and white college kids are really getting arrested because they had possession of marijuana. Get out of here. Yeah, and I'm quite sure, Robert, Tom Cotton is just really spending a lot of time going around to the black parts of Arkansas saying, here's what I'm going to do for y'all. I've just brought y'all some boxes of menthol cigarettes,
Starting point is 02:06:41 and I want y'all to have a grand time, and I'm going to do all I can, time, and I'm going to do all I can, black people. I'm going to do all I can to make sure y'all black people get to keep smoking the menthol cigarettes and keep killing yourselves and driving up the healthcare costs. And I'm going to make sure we don't expand
Starting point is 02:06:58 Medicaid expansion. And guess what? I'm going to also make sure we do some cuts to Medicare and Social Security so your smoke-infested lungs won't be able to get treated. That's what I'm going to do for you, black people. Yeah, it's one of those things where you can tell they did not think this out. And he's also never actually said this in front of black people. I would love to see Tom Cotton go to the black side of Little Rock that we've all been to a couple times, you know, the one that seems a whole lot non-Arkansas-ish, and have the same speech in, like, a street corner or a bar to, in the 2024 campaign, start talking about how can
Starting point is 02:07:46 we have campaign finance reform in American elections again? Because since Citizens United, you can literally have a senator who's just sponsored by the cigarette industry, just like the NASCAR driver having to code on with all his sponsors on it. And he will work harder for the people who sponsor him than for the people that voted for him. And that's a danger to our democratic system that we're seeing across the board right now. And for all the black folks watching, remember I told y'all what he did? Go to my iPad. This was the letter
Starting point is 02:08:14 that Tom Cotton sent to top law firms warning them about race-based hiring practices. So yes, Tom Cotton do not, Tom Cotton don't want black people to get hired at law firms, but he damn sure wants you smoking menthol
Starting point is 02:08:30 cigarettes. Hmm. Ain't that... He wants you dead and unemployed. Precisely. I'll be right back on Rolling Mark the Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. Hey there. We just wanted to wish you, my big brother, a very, very happy birthday. Happy birthday.
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Starting point is 02:11:10 334-241-2651. Y'all, this has been the week of crazy Republicans, okay? Just crazy Republicans. So check this out. So Chip Roy was on the floor of the House today and was just outside of his mind
Starting point is 02:11:31 in a speech. Listen to what this fool said. One thing I want my Republican colleagues to give me one thing, one that I can go campaign on and say we did. One. Anybody sitting in the complex, if you want to come down to the floor and come explain to me
Starting point is 02:11:53 one material, meaningful, significant thing the Republican majority has done besides, well, I guess it's not as bad as the Democrats. One thing. You know what? That right there, Robert, is an ad that will write itself. You know, I'm trying to figure out what the hell Republicans' plan is right now. You have a Democratic president who's polling in the mid-30s. You have a Democratic Congress that is very unpopular with the American people to split right down the middle on the funding for Ukraine, funding for
Starting point is 02:12:29 Israel, et cetera. And then the House Republicans just seem to say, hold my beer. I could be more crazy. They depose Kevin McCarthy for working with Democrats on having a continuing resolution to keep the government open. Then the new speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, has a compromise with Democrats to keep the government open through a continuing resolution. You have the Republican debate where you have Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikki Haley going back and forth with each other, calling each other scum, et cetera. Donald Trump is doing not-not jokes and yo mama jokes about Chris Christie calling him a fat pig. And the Republican Party really thinks that this is going to be what happens for the American people to hand the reins of power back over to them.
Starting point is 02:13:07 They are a party in complete dysfunction. What used to be Tea Party crazy MAGA Republicans are now moderate rhinos in this current Republican Party. People like John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan are no longer welcome in the Republican Party. They did John Boanner so bad, he just became a weed head at drinks all day now. I'm not quite sure how they can form a governing coalition, but also Democrats are going to get their game together and capitalize on this.
Starting point is 02:13:35 You should not be running neck and neck with a party that is in complete disarray, where you have George Santos, the 21 felony counts, Lauren Boebert getting felt up at the theater, and everything else going on in the GOP, and y'all are barely beating them. Democrats are going to have to figure out a way to put some more distance between them
Starting point is 02:13:50 at a party that's in free fall and collapse. You know what? I found a longer clip. Let me just go ahead and play this here because I found it to be fantastic. Rebecca, watch this. One thing. I want my Republican colleagues to give me one thing, one, that I can go campaign on and say we did.
Starting point is 02:14:18 One. Anybody sitting in the complex, if you want to come down to the floor and come explain to me one material, meaningful, significant thing the Republican majority has done. There's not one person on earth that hates saying I told you so. And I'm not an exception. I love saying that shit. Not secretly, publicly. Representative Chip Roy, Republican from Texas District 21, you ain't no welcome to the fucking world. Republicans don't do shit. They never have done shit.
Starting point is 02:14:39 They don't have any plans to do shit. Oh, I love it so much because it's like, we ain't done nothing. Make sure we don't get reelected. He said the quiet part out loud. I really want to see a TikTok remix with Ray J's One Wish to go after him. He's like, one thing, and then just start playing One Wish right
Starting point is 02:14:58 under it. I mean, look, Chip's great. Keep it moving, Chip. Maybe in February, I'm expecting for Republicans to kick out their... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Starting point is 02:15:25 Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. B one two and three on may 21st and episodes four five and six
Starting point is 02:16:10 on june 4th ad free at lava for good plus on apple podcasts i'm clayton english i'm greg glad and this is season two of the war on drugs by sir we are back in a big way in a very big way real people real perspectives this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Starting point is 02:16:40 Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
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Starting point is 02:17:20 Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, Drew Scott here, letting you know why I recently joined the board of an amazing nonprofit, A Sense of Home. For 10 years, this charity has been creating homes for young people exiting foster care. It's an incredible organization. Just days into the L.A. fires, they moved mountains to launch a new emergency relief relief program providing fully functional home environments for those who lost everything in the fires. Please get involved. Sign up to volunteer, donate furniture, or even donate funds. You can go to ascensivehome.org to find out more information. Together, we can help our LA community rebuild.
Starting point is 02:17:59 It takes all of us. Current speakers may need chips to run and become the next speaker in the house and actually do something for the remaining months of the year leading up to the general election in 2024. I mean, you know, I'm glad he's speaking truth to power. Maybe there could be more. You know what? Hold up. I'm going to grab one of these bottles of alcohol from my party over here.
Starting point is 02:18:21 So, Joy, Joy, I'm going to do a reenactment of Chip Roy. Anthony, give me a wide shot. All right, y'all. So, I'm about to reenact for y'all Chip Roy on the floor of the house. We ain't doing shit! We been here all this damn time.
Starting point is 02:18:43 We been in charge, and we ain't done a damn thing matter of fact why don't we all just have a drink together since we ain't done shit we ain't gonna do shit we don't look like shit and we simply ain't shit i'm chip Roy and I approve this message. Hey, man, he needs to hire you. This Chip change party. No, Chip, take your drunk ass back home to Texas and you and that other drunk ass Clay Huggins or Higgins, whatever his name is, because they by two of the dumbest people in Congress.
Starting point is 02:19:31 It's insane. So, I mean, what is so crazy to me is that no matter what he's saying, I bet you if you asked him what he's going to do about it, he answers pretty much nothing. Friends, you got to vote, and I'm not telling you who to vote for it, he answers pretty much nothing. Friends, you got to vote, and I'm not telling you who to vote for, but don't vote for people
Starting point is 02:19:49 who will side with Tom Cotton and the likes of other Donald Trump and other people who only use you. They don't care about you. They don't care about you, and they haven't done one damn thing. And again, again, I'm trying to sit here.
Starting point is 02:20:09 Y'all, this has got to be drunk-ass Republican week on Capitol Hill. It's got to be drunk-ass because if y'all want to see, hold on, I'm trying to find, if y'all want to see straight up, no holds barred ignorance. Now, Robert had to bounce. Now, I ought to show y'all Chip Roy. But I'm going to tell you right now, the other dude who I think, he clearly has been greatly impacted by long COVID because he says some of the dumbest stuff I have ever seen somebody say. And I'm talking about right here. Here's Clay Higgins.
Starting point is 02:20:57 Go ahead, y'all. That the FBI had that sort of engagement with your own agents embedded with into the crowd on January 6th. If you are asking whether the violence at the Capitol on January 6th was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and or agents, the answer is emphatically no. You're saying no? No. You're saying no? Not violence orchestrated by FBI sources or agents
Starting point is 02:21:26 Can you confirm that the FBI? Had that sort of eye y'all so that and that so that's in that clip So he does that down a long again y'all is hilarious the longer clip When the fool he gonna try to sit here and try to show some but give me one second Let me try to find it okay here we go here's all right roll it okay oh here we go here we go at the capitol on january 6th was part of some operation orchestrated by fbi sources and or agents the answer is emphatically you're saying no no you're saying not violence orchestrated by FBI sources or agents.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Are you familiar with what a ghost vehicle is? Director, you're director of the FBI. I certainly should. You know what a ghost bus is? A ghost bus? Ghost bus. I'm not sure I've used that term before. Okay. It's pretty common in law enforcement.
Starting point is 02:22:20 It's a vehicle that's used for secret purposes. It's painted over. These two buses in the middle here, they were the first to arrive at Union Station on January 6th. 0500, I have all this evidence. I'm showing you the tip of this iceberg. Mr. Chairman. These two buses are painted completely white.
Starting point is 02:22:43 These buses are nefarious in nature and were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters. Deployed onto our Capitol on January 6th. Your day is coming, Mr. Ray. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 02:23:00 All right. So, Andy, go to the wide shot. So I'm about to give y'all a reenactment of Clay Higgins. So here's Clay Higgins. Clay Higgins like. FBI Director Ray. Your ass never heard of some ghost buses? Some ghost buses.
Starting point is 02:23:25 You ain't never heard no ghost buses? Some ghost buses are some clear-ass buses you can't see. Because they some ghost buses. And on them ghost buses, Mr. FBI Director, there was some FBI-informant ghosts that were on them ghost buses. I think, Mr. Head of the FBI, I think
Starting point is 02:23:48 all over the Capitol on January 6th, it was a bunch of ghost FBI informants infiltrating the crowd and we couldn't see them because they ghosts. Now, do y'all have a ghost
Starting point is 02:24:04 task force at the FBI? And Chris Ray says that you say, do we have a goat task force? No, man. I said in my Louisiana drawl, do y'all have some ghost task forces? Because I
Starting point is 02:24:20 know I saw some ghosts on them ghost buses. That's how his ass sounded, Rebecca. Maybe he has that free weed that... Tom Cotton talking about? This is like Scooby-Doo and the Mystery Machine. Like, what the hell is he talking about? Anytime you go to the Union Station,
Starting point is 02:24:44 it's filled with buses like that because they actually have parking for buses, especially when people are staging for events. Now, Rebecca, I saw them go buses at 5 o'clock in the morning. And right now
Starting point is 02:24:59 they're there. And at 5 a.m., there's going to be buses there. And guess what? Everybody can see them, so they're not ghost buses at 5 a.m., there's going to be buses there, and guess what? Everybody can see them, so they're not ghost buses because we can see them. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, Joy, that's some bullshit. I saw them
Starting point is 02:25:15 ghost buses, and it was ghosts just all in them buses, just talking to each other, and all of them are FBI informants. Who you gonna call? Ghostbusters! The only thing that will be ghost
Starting point is 02:25:30 is us if we allow these people to win. Please! I mean, who is supporting? Literally, are the people of Mr. Higgins' district being as supportive at all? This man is on TV humiliating you. He doesn't care whether you have clean water. He doesn't care if he's bringing money back.
Starting point is 02:25:53 He is wasting time talking about ghost buses. He is ridiculous. And the whole Republican Party is ridiculous. It's time... Ghostbusters. Who you gonna call? Mr. Higgins, you need to call. All right, so, all right,
Starting point is 02:26:11 I'm gonna close the show out on this one because, see, here's what I think happened this week. So, yesterday, the senator from Oklahoma was gonna fight the head of the Teamsters, and I think the senator from Oklahoma thought the head of the Teamsters, and I think the Senator from Oklahoma thought the head of the Teamsters was a ghost. Okay, so watch this, y'all. Come on.
Starting point is 02:26:35 I was in the truck with me when I was building my... Sir, I wish you was in the truck with me when I was building my plumbing company myself, and my wife was running the office because I sure remember working pretty hard and long hours. Pretends like he's self-made. What a clown. Fraud. Always has been, always will be. Quit the tough guy act and these Senate hearings. You know where to find me. Any place, any time, cowboy. Sir, this is a time, this is a place. We can be two consenting adults. We can finish it here. Okay, that's fine. Perfect. You want to do it now? I'd love to do it right now. Well,
Starting point is 02:27:16 stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold on. Oh, stop it. Is that your solution? No, no, sit down. Sit down. You're a United States senator. Sit down. Okay. Sit down, please. Can I respond? Hold it. Hold it.
Starting point is 02:27:31 If we can't... No, I have the mic. I'm sorry. Hold it. You'll have your time. Can I respond? No, you can't. See, Rebecca, here's what happened.
Starting point is 02:27:39 Here's what happened. We ain't done shit. Oh, no. Stand your ass up. I'm about to whoop some ass with some ghosts. That's what these... That's literally the week. And then you had the dude said Kevin McCarthy,
Starting point is 02:27:53 hit him in the rear, hit him in the kidney. They trying to fight. Then you got... This literally has been the week of just some straight-up crackhead, meth-breaking bad moments for the Republican Party. I think all of them been drinking. This was Nuck if you buck week.
Starting point is 02:28:14 Like, they were all just like, Nuck if you buck it. Like, I mean, look, do you remember last week? And damn, it ain't even Friday. It's Wednesday. Right, I remember when Republicans, And damn, it ain't even Friday. It's Wednesday. Right. I remember when Republicans, yeah, every week it was infrastructure week. I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:28:33 I actually might turn on C-SPAN because it's crazy. Right. It's Wednesday. Joy, it ain't even Friday. It's crazy white people wink. That was nuts. I can't even believe it. Look, I worked in the Senate. Standing up and threatening to attack a witness is outrageous. And I hope the ethics committee is looking at him. When do we get to say enough is enough?
Starting point is 02:29:04 If you're watching these people? And I assure you, our enemies are watching us right now. And it's funny, but not so funny. That's if you broke weak. It isn't a good look. It's not a good look.
Starting point is 02:29:18 I'm going to leave y'all on this one here, y'all. A GOP-led Pennsylvania school board voted to give the outgoing superintendent who is retiring $700,000 severance package after the Republicans lost five seats on the school board. Central Buck School District Superintendent Abram Lukabaugh signed a five-year contract in July. He resigned Monday. The Republican-controlled board holds the power until
Starting point is 02:29:50 December 6th, allowing board members to pass the controversial severance package 6-3. At the school board meeting, hundreds of residents packed into an auditorium and protested at the severance, including $39,000 in taxes taxpayers must cover.
Starting point is 02:30:06 It was approved. Now, how in the hell? So the deal here, Rebecca, so he don't want to serve under the Democrats. So he's like, yo, I'm out. Got it in July. And they're going to let his ass walk with $700,000? Oh, hell no. I ain't paying nothing.
Starting point is 02:30:24 I ain't paying nothing. I ain't paying nothing. I would rather pay the lawyers for him to sue us and to give him $700,000 because he don't want to work under a Democratic board. Yeah, I don't think that's going to stand.
Starting point is 02:30:41 I definitely hope that folks challenge that. I don't see, even with that vote, if they take that to court, I don't think that's going to stand. I definitely hope that folks challenge that. I don't see, even with that vote, if they take that to court, I don't think that's going to stand. Like, unless you had a guaranteed contract. But, I mean, this is not the NBA where you have, like, a guaranteed contract of if you get injured or something happens or you become a free agent, they cut you, whatever. Like, come on now.
Starting point is 02:31:02 $750,000. Crazy. Joy? Tell them now. $750,000. Crazy. Joy? Tell him we'll see you in court. Let him go to court with that. I'm with you. He won't get a dime. I'm with Rebecca.
Starting point is 02:31:14 This is not going to stand. And if it does, let a court say it. This guy is a grifter. He's running a scam. It's ridiculous. Yo, I'm telling you, but I'll be like, yeah, player, you ain't getting no money
Starting point is 02:31:29 whatsoever. You ain't getting no money whatsoever. All right, y'all. That's it for us. We got the bounce. It's been an absolute crazy week. These Republicans are going to... Y'all know I don't drink, but these Republicans are going to make a brother drink because they're the the outside they mind.
Starting point is 02:31:45 Robert, thanks a bunch. Joy, thanks a bunch. Rebecca, thanks a bunch. Rebecca, y'all came through the party last night, drank up all the liquor. And so, Rebecca just drank up all the brown liquor. Just all the brown liquor. She want no clear liquor.
Starting point is 02:32:02 She like, all I want, she said, give me a clear glass, but the liquor better be brown. It was straight club brown liquor up in here. I'm surprised we still got half a bottle of whatever this Basil Hayden Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey. I'm shocked. But let me thank everybody who came out. Let me thank all who came out. Let me thank all of y'all who gave me birthday shout-outs on social media.
Starting point is 02:32:30 I appreciate that. Let me thank, of course, our staff. We had a great time with the party. Lynette, our caterer. Lindsey, who handled booking the bartender. Everything was fantastic. Say what? I know Cynthia was the bartender, everything was fantastic. Say what?
Starting point is 02:32:48 I know Cynthia was the bartender. I said let me thank Lindsay for hiring the bartender. Carol, don't be interrupting me when I'm in the middle of a dog gone thanking everybody. Sit, sit in here. Damn, see? I'm trying to sit here and go through, she interrupted, Cynthia the bartender. I know who Cynthia was. All right.
Starting point is 02:33:09 So, again, let me thank Lindsey for booking Cynthia the bartender. Had a good time. Folk came out. Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, Congressman Bobby Scott, my man, Congressman Andre Carson, Congressman Jim Clyburn, his daughter, Mignon Clyburn, so many others. My man John Hope Bryant and his wife, Chaitra, they flew in from Atlanta, I appreciate that. Was so many different folks.
Starting point is 02:33:30 And I appreciate all the bites from family members. I think we got two more, my nephew Chris, as well as my brother and his wife. Y'all got those, right? You play them? Including Chris? Yeah, just checking. All right. You know, Carol falling asleep in there because she also had
Starting point is 02:33:51 some brown liquor. We were heading out. So, all right, y'all. That's it. I'm going to see y'all tomorrow right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. We're going to have a good time tomorrow. I might bring the panel in tomorrow. Who's on the panel tomorrow? Alright, so see if they can come into the studio tomorrow. So, alright
Starting point is 02:34:16 y'all, that's it. I hope y'all have a great time. Let me also shout out Adina Howard. Her birthday was yesterday. Let me see some other people we shared birthdays today uh my girl um let's see here uh adina birthday was yesterday uh angel's birthday was yesterday uh bianca uh akosia birthday was yesterday uh carlita's birthday was yesterday i know a whole bunch of 11 14 folk uh who birthday was yesterday And some of the Conley's and Rice birthdays
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