#RolandMartinUnfiltered - GA Johnny Hollman Sr. Death, GA Election Probe Deadline, FL School Apologizes for Racial Profiling

Episode Date: August 26, 2023

8.25.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: GA Johnny Hollman Sr. Death, GA Election Probe Deadline, FL School Apologizes for Racial Profiling In Atlanta, a Georgia family mourns the loss of their beloved patriarch, deacon Johnny Hollman Sr., who tragically died while in police custody under curious circumstances. We will speak with the Hollman family attorney to uncover the truth behind this heartbreaking incident. We got the mugshot of former President Donald Trump. We will show you the historic shameful photo. Also, Today marked the deadline for all Trump Co-defendants to surrender in the Georgia election interference. We will show you all 19 mugshots and explain why the leader of Blacks for Trump, Harrison Floyd, has been sitting in jail and why it has something to do with avoiding federal prison in Maryland. In a significant legal battle, a Tulsa court has rescinded the permission of a Tulsa Victim Ancestor to reopen the estate claim to preserve the legacy and property rights. We sit down with a Civil Rights Attorney to shed light on the wrongful intervention that prevented the reopening and the broader implications for justice and historical accountability. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Deacon Johnny Holman Sr., who tragically died while in police custody under strange circumstances. We'll talk with the Holman family attorney to find out what is going on. Also, that mugshot scene around the world of Donald Trump, the first former occupant of the Oval Office to ever get a mugshot.

He also is already raising money off of this opportunity. Told you he's a grifter. Today marked the deadline for all of Trump's co-defendants in the Georgia Rico case to surrender to authorities. We'll show you the remaining individuals. Black woman Trevionne Couto, Kanye West's former publicist, as well as an Illinois clergyman. We'll show you all 19 mug shots. Also, while the leader of Blacks for Trump,

Harrison Floyd, continues to sit in jail, it could have something to do with avoiding federal prison in Maryland. In a major legal battle, the Tulsa court has rescinded the permission of a Tulsa victim ancestor to reopen the estate claim to preserve the legacy and property rights. We'll talk with a civil rights attorney to shed light on this

wrongful intervention that prevented reopening and the broader implications for justice as well. Also this weekend, festivities are happening in D.C. to mark the 60th anniversary of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. At this hour, Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated is holding an event at the MLK Memorial. I'll share with you a word from the last four,

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As the Georgia family says their final goodbyes to their patriarch, they are still wondering how 62-year-old deacon Johnny Holman Sr. ended up dead while in police custody. August 10th, Holman was involved in a minor traffic accident. It's unclear why things escalated when Atlanta police arrived on the scene. Body camera footage has yet to be released in the case. Family arrived there. They saw their father lying motionless on the ground with paramedics performing CPR after he was tased by a police officer. The video here was actually shot by family members. The unnamed officer is on leave as the Georgia Bureau of Investigation investigates this case. Joining me from Atlanta is Mauli Mel-Davis.

He's representing the Holman family. Glad to have you here, Mr. Davis. So again, this is what just jumps out the most on this case. And whenever we do these stories, another example of a minor traffic accident leading to a black person dead. Correct. In fact, Deacon, he was the chairman of the Deacon Board, he called the police. And so he calls the police. He's perfectly safe up until the police arrive. When they arrive, that's when his life is in danger.

That's when they begin to escalate the situation, and this officer tases him, handcuffs him, and ultimately he dies, and his family has to come up, and they see them performing the CPR. We just left from the service. Tomorrow they will have the funeral, but we just left from the viewing, and his son, who I was standing

with, who shares his name, Johnny Holman Jr., was just like, they didn't have to do this to my dad. I'm just trying to understand. So there's a... Was it a traffic accident? It was an accident. Okay, involving another vehicle?

Involving another vehicle. So Mr. Holman, he's the one who calls the cops? Exactly. Both drivers called the police. And so we've been in communication with the other driver and hope to be able to do a full interview with him early next week. But there's nothing that he indicated as to why Mr. Holtman was even being arrested.

You know, this officer decides this 62-year-old deacon who has just left Bible study after a minor traffic accident where he caused the police needs to be arrested. That's where this begins to go wrong. Okay, so this took place August 10th. Why haven't they released the body cam footage yet? Roland, that's the question. We know across the country the policies and what we have seen as best practices is to at least bring the family and the attorneys in to view the body cam footage so that questions can be answered. So as they bury him on tomorrow, they're not wondering what happened that day. So we've asked the city of Atlanta. There was a march

and protest this past Thursday here in Atlanta. Folks are demanding it. And so we hope that this is addressed early next week. If not, all we can do is encourage people to stay in the street, to keep fighting, keep demanding, because the power really lies with the people. And that's unfortunate that we're the cradle of the civil rights movement, yet we behave in this way when one of our own citizens is killed by an Atlanta police officer. Absolutely strange what has happened here. We appreciate you coming on. Surely give our thoughts and prayers to the Holman family. We really appreciate you and what you've done all over the years and thank you for supporting this kind of work.

I appreciate it, thanks a lot. Folks, Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens released this statement regarding this case, quote, "'Every single life in Atlanta is important "'and matters to me. "'Every single death in this city weighs on my heart.' What started as a routine stop after an accident ended in the death

of 62-year-old Johnny Holman. Immediately following these events, I directed Chief Darren Sheerbaum to conduct a top-to-bottom evaluation of the interaction with Mr. Holman, including a review of the department's standard operating procedures and training curriculum. APD leadership will ensure that the officer involved

will receive due process. In the coming days, we will share the results of those findings and updates to the standard operating procedures of APD. I have been in touch with the family of Mr. Holman to express my condolences, and the city has provided assistance to them. My prayers remain with the family and loved ones

of Mr. Holman and with the entire city of Atlanta. Folks, our panel right now is Michael Imhotep, host of the African History Network show, joining me out of Detroit. Glad to have you here. Kelly Bethea, a communications strategist, joining me out of D.C. Civil Rights Attorney Matt Manning, out of Corpus Christi. Glad to have all three of you here. I mean, it's like deja vu, Matt. Traffic accident, black man dead. I mean, I swear, I mean, my goodness. And again, in this case, two people who were involved, you know, they called the cops.

I mean, my goodness, if you're black, I mean, hell, calling the cops could get you dead. Yeah, it could. And, you know, as much as I like the mayor addressing this issue and calling for a top-to-bottom investigation, it may not have any material effect, because what it really comes down to is this family's ability to vindicate the loss of Mr. Holman in court. And the 11th Circuit, just like the Fifth Circuit, where I practice, is one of the most difficult circuits to practice in in the United States, in terms of the judges' positions on things and the overall conservative nature of the court. And what that means is that the problem really is less APDs, individual policies, and more

looking at what officers do out in the field and giving them basically an objective, you know, viewpoint to determine whether what they did was reasonable. And what concerns me about this case is it's indefensible, right? It doesn't make any sense at all that somebody would have a traffic accident and end up dead and that a taser is used with the routine response to a traffic accident. But the problem with that is no matter how divorced from logic that seems, it routinely happens where courts tell people that it's either not excessive force or it's not enough to prove the case. And what I am concerned about in this case is that they will want to extend qualified immunity.

So for this to have a measurable effect, for this case to really come out the way it should from a moral standpoint, we need to have Congress, you know, have the actual gumption to pass a law that does not shield officers on the state and or federal level with qualified immunity the way that they have. And in this instance, it would really be the Georgia legislature, just like the state of Colorado did. Until that happens, it doesn't matter how much the city looks at its policies and procedures because it will be very difficult to hold them accountable. And that's my concern in this case and all cases like it. And again, right here, Kelly, another black person dead, 62 year old Deacon.

Yeah, it's absolutely heartbreaking. My mom is just a year older than this man and if that were to ever happen to her, I don't even want to think about it because it is that jarring and that triggering. The fact that, once again, like you said, we have this issue is just a testament as have, no matter how many black bodies are strewn out on the street by way of, you know, capital violence against citizens, it doesn't, like the needle just simply isn't moving to the extent at the frequency in which lives will be saved. And that is extremely concerning to me.

Indeed, indeed. Michael? Yeah, you know, Roland, I watched the video, atlantanewsfirst.com covered this story. And one of the questions that I had for the attorney is, where's the body camera footage? Where's the dash camera footage? I know he addressed that, but because it has not been released, it leads me to believe that it has incriminating evidence on the dash cam video or the body camera video that's damaging to the police officer who it appears repeatedly tased. It looks like he was tased more than once, Johnny Holman, 62 years old. Also, apparently he had asthma as well.

And what I was trying to find out is, okay, so how did it escalate from a minor traffic accident and he calling the police to him being tased? I know he was possibly agitated or something like that. But if you're an officer arriving on the scene of an accident, you have to use some discernment, some judgment when you deal with somebody who's an elder and they're probably upset because an accident happened. So you have to use restraint. So I'm still trying to figure out how did it escalate to him being tased?

Well, the family's trying to do the exact same thing. And so hopefully we'll see the body cam footage quite soon. Alright folks, gotta go to break. We come back. All 19 defendants in the Donald Trump-Rico case have turned themselves in. We have the mugshots. The two turned themselves in today.

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That's dedication. Find out more at fatherhood.gov brought to you by the U S department of health and human services and the ad council. Ad Council. Thank you. All right. All of the thugs in the Rico case in Georgia turned themselves in. No, I'm not talking about the young thug case. I'm talking about Donald Trump and his imps. Here are the two mug shots of the folks who turned themselves in today. Trevion Couto, of course, the black woman, former publicist for Kanye West and for R. Kelly, turned herself in.

Boy, that's one evil-ass looking photo right there. Violation of the Georgia Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organization Act, conspiracy to commit solicitation of false statements and writings influencing witnesses as well. All right, let's show the man who showed up in his clerical collar. He was the priest involved. We got that photo? All right, come on, let's show it. He is from Illinois.

He was not at all happy about turning himself in, Stephen Lee. Same thing, he was involved in this. They were the last two turning themselves in. Here are the 19 mug shots of all of the gang, the Trump gang. That's Donald Trump's mug shot. Literally thinking he's supposed to look tough. No, fool. You look ridiculous. Kenneth Chesbro, that's his photo. Keep going. Mark Meadows, he tried to get out of it. Mike Roman, let's see here. Misty Hampton. Ray Smith, yep, pretty evil.

Robert Cheely, yep, former head of the Republican Party in Georgia. Rudy Giuliani. Scott Hall. Let's see here. Keep going. Sean Steele. That's right. Sidney Powell. That idiot.

By the Jacker Law License, of course. There's Stephen Lee again. Trevion Coote. Let's go. Keep going. Kathy Latham. She needs some sun. Man, she's pale as hell.

David Schaefer needs some sun, too. Jeffrey Clark. Yeah, he looks confused. Jenna Ellis. She actually posted something on Twitter. I absolutely hollered at laughing. John Eastman, that lying SOB, he's there. And this idiot, Harrison Floyd, who was the former head of Black Voices for Trump, okay, one of two black defendants, he is the only one who is still in jail. Of course, he was director of Black Voices for Trump during the 2020 election campaign. He was indicted for violating Georgia's anti-bracketeering law, illegally influencing witnesses and conspiring

to solicit a false statement. According to the indictment, he repeatedly harassed and attempted to pressure a black election worker, Ruby Freeman, to make a false statement. Now, it's not completely clear why Floyd did not negotiate a bond agreement. Could be he's broke as hell. His previous arrest could explain why he's still in jail. Floyd was arrested in May for assaulting a federal officer attempting to serve him with a grand jury subpoena. That's never a good thing, player.

And so he had a bond hearing happening there in Georgia. Now, of course, Donald Trump, Mr. Pompeo in circumstance, turned himself into Fulton County authorities yesterday during primetime. And, of course, you know, they had the motorcade and all of this sort of stuff along those lines. I'm not sure why. I don't quite understand, Matt, what the hell that was about. I've seen former President Barack Obama when he has gone places. He didn't have like a 20 motorcycle. I mean, that was sort of like a motorcade for the existing president,

not somebody who used to be in office. What did you make of that? Because again, for the Trump people, they love the pageantry of all of that. I'm not sure why it was required. Well, I think it's kind of, excuse me, part and parcel with him litigating his case in the public sphere. I mean, what he's trying to do is poison the jury and trying to get credence to the idea that he's not the former president, but he is going to be president again and should get some kind of special treatment. Just the bravado with which he and all of these others are addressing this case is really kind of absurd to me, because generally people are considerably more afraid of federal charges than anything like this, like a RICO-type charge. It's a pretty

scary charge. So for them to not have any concern, or at least any outward concern, I think it should continue playing this part that he's the president, he's Teflon Don, he's untouchable, and he's going to beat these charges. I think that's why he had all of those cars in the motorcade. And as it relates to Floyd, you know, he's on no bond from what I read, which would explain why he did not make any agreements with Fannie Willis's office relating to bond and conditions before turning himself in. But that's pretty important, actually. It's one thing I always counsel clients on, is before you go turn yourself in, you want to have everything figured out, because it's much more difficult to get your bond situation figured out if you're already behind

bars. But in terms of turning themselves in and the way they've approached this, I think it's all part of the show that they're trying to play, and, you know, in terms of poisoning the jury. And to go one step further, I think it's crazy that they're attacking the judges and prosecutors and all the people involved in these cases, because ultimately, you know, the case doesn't get litigated in the public, the court of public opinion. It gets litigated in a courthouse, and that seems to me to be the worst way to plead your cases, by attacking those who are a part of the administration of the case. I just don't understand, Michael. First of all, Atlanta police and Fulton County sheriffs, they didn't have to accede to that.

They could have simply said, you don't deserve all of that. You don't, I mean, you're not the president anymore. And so guess what? You not had to stop at red lights. I mean, this to me, go to my iPad. I mean, I'm not quite understanding all of this. Matter of fact, let me just roll it back. I mean, this is the beginning of it. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19. I mean, you know, 19 motorcycle cops leading. And this is the whole I don't get it. Again, to me, again, what that does is that that's what he wants.

He wants that whole note that this is the pageantry of this whole thing. Michael. Yeah, Trump does want that. And Trump also wanted this to be broadcast at prime time, which is why he decided to he wanted to turn himself in during prime time to garner more media attention. So now the only so I don't know exactly why the authorities there gave him such the motorcade and so many officers on motorcycles unless there were credible threats. OK, which, you know, that could be it. But at the end of the day, this is that yesterday was a good day for the American rule of law. Yesterday was a good day for African-Americans as well, because I've been going through reading the 98 rule of law. Yesterday was a good day for African Americans as well, because I've been going through reading the 98-page indictment,

and we saw at the core of this was African Americans who were vilified. Ruby Freeman, Shea Moss, their lives were turned upside down. It was, you know, African Americans looked at it as those who were cheating. They're trying to, Trump is trying to get 11,780 votes and invalidate the votes of African-Americans. And it's so important for people. What's been missing from a lot of this analysis is the day before January 6th, 2021, was the January 5th, uh, uhth senatorial elections in Georgia, where not just John Ossoff won, but Reverend Raphael Warnock won

again. He beat Kelly Loeffler. If you understand the history of Georgia's 1963 runoff election law, which is championed by a segregationist Democrat in the state legislature in Georgia named Denmark Groover, it was designed to prevent African Americans from having statewide political power in the first place in Georgia named Denmark Groover. It was designed to prevent African-Americans

from having statewide political power in the first place. So Reverend Raphael Warnock defied the odds not once, but twice. So this helped to fuel a lot of this white supremacist anger once again. So no man or woman is above the law, the full weight of, and you know, Donald Trump thought white supremacy was his superpower, but he found out a

black woman is his kryptonite. And this is what a lot of them are going to find out, including those two Negroes as well. So I hope the full weight of her department comes down and puts all of them in prison. You know what, you know, Kelly,

as I sit here and I look at just this whole deal, I mean, you already see Trump, Kelly, as I sit here and I look at just this whole deal, I mean, you already see Trump again and again. You know, he wanted this image right here on Fox News. This is what Fox News was showing. And so he wanted that. Now he's literally selling merchandise with his mugshot. One of the networks reported that him and his people were on the plane talking about the look and he wanted to be a

menacing look. So everything was about the presentation. Remember, this is what this guy, this is all this guy cares about. And now that this has happened, now the legal battle goes on and this is now the moment

where Fannie Willis now has to then begin to apply the screws that Ken Chesbrough, you know, he thought he was going to get away with a slip-in by demanding a speedy trial, requesting November 4th. She was like, yeah, we're good October 23rd And so if that actually happens we're talking about the first trials October 23rd and then you know Only imagine what happens if that guy gets convicted if you're the other people we are to see one of it the former mark The Mar-a-Lago worker in the document case already flipped get a new attorney was like yeah My initial statement they were not correct. That's what you're also looking to see happen

here. If these people begin to look up and go, oh, shit, I could actually go to prison. I mean, if they haven't had that revelation yet, I don't know what's going on because your mugshot is out there now. You know, this is not for play play.

This is this is the real deal. And this is actually happening. We are not in a vortex. This is not AI. You really have been convicted, not convicted, speaking it into existence. You have been charged with a RICO charge. And this is the real world. Right.

And it is not surprising to me that Trump did all that yesterday. If there's one thing he knows how to do well, it is to position himself to exploit himself by way of media coverage, because he is still of the impression that all press is good press. And in his case, that more or less has been true for the past almost decade now of him being in our news cycle because of his blatantly, right now, allegedly illegal shenanigans. I am surprised, however, at how dusty he looked, the Mango Mussolini, in these mugshots. You know, I heard that he was talking about how, you know, he's looking up, you know, how to look all menacing and all this stuff. I'm sorry. You've known for a whole, you know, couple weeks and some change that you were about to have this mug shot. I'm bringing the glam squad.

I'm filling in that, you know, bald spot. You mean this glam squad? Ew. Why'd you do that? Well, you said glam squad? Ew. Why'd you do that? Well, you said glam squad, so I mean... That's not glam squad. Oh, I mean, that's makeup. Now you know.

You know. But nevertheless, you are a mess. All that to say, people are woefully unprepared regarding this case. Everybody except the D.A. Fannie Willis. You know, she was ready yesterday. She was literally waiting for them at the door. So I don't know what's going on with these defendants. But get your coins ready because Trump's not about to pay you. He's not about to pay for you. Yeah. You got some stuff to do now. You got a month.

Oh, well, look, I'm telling you, Matt, go to my iPad. This group right here, somebody going to flip, baby. I'm telling you right now, if Chesbrough, let's say he's found guilty, the other 17 will be like, do I really, really, really want a chance three, four, five, six, seven, eight, ten years in prison for this fool?

Well, first off, let me stop first and say Mango Mussolini is by far the best name I've heard. Thank you, Kelly. I could not control myself. I've heard. Thank you, Kelly. I could not control myself. That is hilarious. Thank you. Oh, that was you?

All right, moving on. Oh, I was dying. That was golden. But yeah, you're not wrong, Roland. And you know what's interesting about that, particularly in something like a racketeering type case, that's exactly what you're going to see. You're going to see the dominoes start falling.

The bravado is fine now, right, when you're just in the news cycle. But when it gets down to it, especially if people who have the more difficult cases in this context, you know, get convicted, you're going to start seeing people drop like flies if they're not already, you know, and it just hasn't been reported yet, particularly if it's somebody like the lawyer or someone else who's not accused necessarily of doing an overt act, but is accused of being really intimately involved in the actual collusion or the conspiracy. If he or she, or in this instance, Cheeseboro gets convicted, I think that really bodes not well for the rest of the people. And I think you'll see people starting to try to cut, you know, cut bait and get out of it as quickly as they can. Because if you look at his charges, all four of them are conspiracy, right? So, you know, it looks like at least he's not alleged to have done any of those acts himself.

I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company

dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.

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This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.

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of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves. We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers,

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I think she put up like a scripture or something, and she's like, this is just grossly unfair. You know what? You know what they're doing to us. It's just just just not it's just not right. You know, and now she's sitting here touting her defense fund has raised about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in all of this. And again, and I love it how now her Twitter feed, there's a whole lot of Jesus on her Twitter feed. And that's what you're going to need.

That's what you're going to need, Michael. When you choose to stand with a thug, they're going to treat you like a thug and you're going to end up like a thug. you gonna end up like a thug absolutely i think jenna ellis used a christian uh crowdfunding uh website you know she talked about how she didn't have the money to to pay the legal fees they're going to be a lot of them flipping uh rolling and last i

heard donald trump owes rudy giuliani three million dollars in legal fees. And he's stupid. Exactly. He's grossly stupid. Now, Donald Trump has agreed to appear at a fundraiser for Rudy so Rudy can pay his little legal fees and stay out of prison. But if Jenna Ellis or any of these co-conspirators think that the charges are unfair, I would encourage you to read the 98-page indictment. And you can start on page 20, where it lays out, it starts laying out the 161 overt acts that Fannie Willis has identified, okay? So no, this is called justice. This is called karma, all right? So don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

I don't want to hear any complaining because you all knew what you were doing. You just thought you could get away with. Yeah. This is the scripture that poor little Jenna posted. Matthew 5 for Psalm 32, 10 and 11. And I have to remind her, Chuck Colson found the Lord when he was in prison and came out and started a prison ministry. Maybe, Jenna Ellis, you could be Chuck Colson 2.0. But he still went to prison.

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There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the

inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this.

There's all the Proud Boys, guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. I have a couple. on a next of balanced life with me dr jackie summer is flying by and back to school is just

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Roland Martin Unfiltered. You know what? You can always count on the idiotic racists to do what they do and say unbelievably dumb, stupid things. And one of them is the convicted felon, Dinesh D'Souza. And this fool actually made this post that was just kind of dumb. I'm trying to find it to see if this fool still has it up. I responded to it where even a black Republican, Sonny Johnson, had to smack him down for the sheer stupidity of his comment when he was talking about mug shots and black people. Let me see if I can find this post, because it really was, you know, dumb. It really was dumb. And what you're also seeing, you're seeing how these

people sort of operate. You're seeing how they operate in terms of, you know, you're seeing how they operate with just the ridiculous things that they say. And they're doing everything to defend this idiot who really that's what he is. That's exactly what he is. Let's see. Where is. OK, so here he is. Let's see. Where is. OK, so here it is. Go to my iPad. This food goes in the urban black community. A mugshot can be an iconic symbol both of victimization and of greatness. It's a defiant up yours to the man. Think Tupac Shakur.

Trump is now the ultimate gangster in our culture. Kelly? Okay. No. No, that's the first word that comes to mind with this. I'm baffled. I'm sorry. I had to gather my thoughts for a second.

The fact that you think that Black culture is rooted in institutionalized racism and prison culture, just because there is gangster rap does not mean that that is inherently all Black people culture. Not to mention the fact that he's just blatantly wrong about what he said, but if you're gonna try to rationalize it, let's start there. We forget that these mugshots that rappers had back in the era of Tupac Shakur and the like, those were not publicized by the hip-hop artists. Those were more or less leaked.

And, you know, you just made the best out of the bad situation. But I'm a little speechless right now. That was wild. That's wild. Again, the thing that cracks me up, I mean, you know, these people literally say some of the stupidest stuff, Matt. And again, they are so delusional. I'll give an example.

Jonathan Turley, who I don't know who would even take this idiot's class at George Washington. He was supposed to be... I think he's went to the Alan Dershowitz School of Law since Trump was in the Oval Office. Listen to what this fool actually said, Matt. Oh, let me pull this up, because, guys, and again, I don't know what planet he's now on. Maybe he got abducted by Martians. Check this out. Insist that he does believe that Georgia could have been flipped with a recount.

And hold on a second. She portrayed that phone. Here we go. He insists that he does believe that Georgia could have been flipped with a recount. And the way that she portrayed that phone call to Raffensperger, I think, is really evidence of the bias and unfairness of aspects of this indictment. You know, it is it makes perfect sense when you're challenging an election to say, you know, I only need around 11000 votes. So if you do a statewide review, that's not a lot in a state like Georgia. That's not criminal. That's making a case for a recount. Okay. Okay. Matt, Matt, Matt, here's the, Matt, here's the problem. When he made the call, they had already done a recount.

Exactly. So, uh, sorry, Jonathan Turley, you look like a dumb ass. Yeah. You know, Roland, I'll be the, the odd person out here. This is actually what scared me about this case and the defense. I actually thought this would be their defense. I suspect it will continue being their defense. election, there's no doubt of that in my mind. Don't misunderstand me. But I am concerned about how that plays with the jury, because I do think there is a reasonable argument that people are going to say, look, it was said in jest. It was said more conceptually, right? Like, what I need is this many votes to get to where I need to go to win the election. And I know they'd already done a recount. But whether that is criminal to the

extent of really trying to convince somebody to fix votes, I think is going to be a harder case than a lot of people are giving it credit for, if I'm completely honest. Now, do I think Turley is saying that in a way that is most favorable to Donald Trump? Of course, because they worship at the altar of Trump. Do I think that Trump was trying to fix the election? Absolutely. But from a pretty legal perspective, I actually think it's a harder argument than maybe some other overt acts. But I wanted to actually address something from Dinesh and say, you know, what I think Dinesh D'Souza is showing is that, you know, Black people in this country are whipping posts where we're not even involved. Why he would have to go out of the way to say, oh,

in the Black community, mugshots are all of these things that make this straw man to not address the fact that Donald Trump is under indictment in four different jurisdictions and find a way to loop us in when we're not involved at all speaks to a lot of times the way, you know, they get snicked, right? And the idea that they can analogize this president to black people, making black people look like criminals, and then trying to extract from that some kind of social value and say he's now the ultimate gangster is horribly offensive. And I think it's proof of how a lot of people still view us in this country, which we talk about all the time. But as it relates to that call, I think there's actually going to be a more difficult case there than some people see. And that's just my opinion on it.

See, the problem here, Michael, is that they already had taken all the different steps when he made the phone call. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company

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What he was trying to do, he literally was trying, right now, matter of fact, let me pull it up right here. Trump's co-defendant points the finger. Don't go to my iPad yet. Check this out. This is from Politico. Three Trump co-defendants say they became false. Go to my iPad.

Say they became false elect go to my iPad, say they became false electors at Trump's direction. So, they were way past the recount. There had been a recount, it had been certified, Raffensperger, Kemp had all said

free and fair elections. They were literally trying to overturn the results. Absolutely. They were trying to overturn the results. You have fake electors. But also keep in mind, there were 62 lawsuits filed for various states, not just for Georgia, but for various states. They lost 61 of the court cases.

So any evidence that they had that Georgia was rigged, that they actually won it, they would have presented in court. Okay? So, no, they were trying to overturn election results. And the fake electors, you know, you have those as co-conspirators as well. That's very damaging because they signed those documents stating that they were the electors as well. And here's what they're saying, quote, Mr. Steele, as a presidential elector, was also acting at the direction of the incumbent president of the United States.

An attorney for Steele argued Thursday in a court filing seeking to transfer the case against him in the federal court. The president's attorneys instructed Mr. Steele and the other contingent electors that they had to meet and cast their ballots on December 14, 2020. Here's the problem here, Michael. The attorneys were not government attorneys. They were his campaign attorneys. This was not the President of the United States making a decision regarding the federal

government. This was the campaign. The reality is two separate things. This wasn't the White House Counsel saying you're doing this on behalf of the United States. No, these were his campaign attorneys saying that they got to get around that.

Yeah. And the Hatch Act makes the discernment. It makes it distinguishes within the capacity of White House chief of staff to the president. But the but that's but you're operating based upon the Trump campaign, not in not the chief of staff. OK, there's a distinction between those two duties. And even if you are operating based upon a campaign is not within your scope of services or within your authority to try to overturn election results either. So these are flimsy excuses that they're using, but what's going to happen is Trump is drowning in debt, trying to pay these legal fees, and he's not going to be able to pay the legal fees of all these other people he's promised.

And some of these people, just like in the Mar-a-Lago case, witness number four, who just got his own attorney and flipped and recanted statements he made to the investigators, the same thing is going to happen here as well. So this kind of reminds me of R. Kelly when R. Kelly ran out of money and then it was a different story as well and R. Kelly's in prison right now. Yeah, player. Yo ass going to prison. Just saying. Y'all hold tight one second. I gotta talk about this story out of New

Hampshire where a 79 year old retired teacher just got all in the ass of Senator Tim Scott and was like, why do you keep sucking up to Trump? Ooh, I can't wait to talk about this. That's next on

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I'm sorry. The what? Mango. Mango Mussolini. I'm sorry, the mango Mussolini. Gotcha. Okay, cool. So they were trying to get Sarah Kim Scott to call out the mango Mussolini.

And just a coward. Watch. Do you think that there will be fatigue among that evangelical vote for the former president when they watch all of these legal trials I'm going to be a little bit more careful. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. Watch. Do you think there will be

fatigue among that evangelical vote for the former president when they watch all of these legal trials over the course of this year? Is that going to be something that makes some of them peel off?

I think the average voter is going to want to know how does the candidate best represent the future for my children? How does the candidate But I'm asking you, is the evangelical vote going to get tired of what the former president is going through? Well, I heard your question. My answer is that people will make a decision based on the future of their family, not what's going on in the legal entanglements of the former president. But I found throughout the entire state, one percent of all the questions I received has to do with the former president.

No doubt. I'm sure that's true. And we find that as well. But he's the front runner by a lot. Absolutely. And I know that you had said in the past that the evangelical vote was very important to your path. Well, I think all voters are. But certainly, I think we're going to do very well with the evangelical voters over the next four or five months. We'll find out whether I'm right or not. I am very confident that when we're heading into December, we're going to be in a very striking zone. So I'm very confident that that man is scared to death to utter a single negative word about Donald Trump because he is desperately trying to be Donald Trump's vice president. That's what I think he's doing.

In fact, remember when Donald Trump got indicted, I mean, this was a lot of questioning. And just listen to how Tim Scott answered this. Listen. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.

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I know we've talked about the two-tiered system of justice. You see it in the past. But if we could look into Georgia specifically, right? We all heard that phone call with the former president, then president at the time, where he said, just find me the requisite number of votes that I would need. Doesn't that feel anti-American? Doesn't that feel like not what a president should do? I would continue to say it as I see it, which is that we see the legal system being weaponized against political opponents.

That is un-American and unacceptable. At the end of the day, we need a better system than that. And I frankly hope to be the president of the day, we need a better system than that. And I frankly hope to be the president of the United States where we have an opportunity to restore confidence and integrity in all of our departments of justice. Yeah, but that phone call, you heard it, right? Yes, but we've just drawn different conclusions. You think it's fine? You would do that as president? You would look for the amount of votes? Quick question for you if we could start. Wow. Like, he literally did not even want to answer the question about the phone call. Well, I saw this story today that I just loved, and I hope this video, it hasn't been posted

yet, but I'm sure looking for the video. And so Tim Scott, look at my iPad, Tim Scott is tense back and forth with New Hampshire voter over support for Trump. A 79-year-old retired school teacher jammed up Tim Scott at a campaign stop today as he was making his way through the Windmill restaurant. Customer David Coffey called him over to the booth where he was eating and said,

"'You don't stand up to Trump. "'How are you going to stand up to the president of Russia and China? As Scott tried to talk around the question, Coffey pushed back and Scott said, do you want to have a conversation or do you want a monologue? I'm happy to listen, but if you want to have a dialogue, I'll be speaking as well. Scott rejected Coffey's characterization and he is unwilling to stand up to Trump. Quote, the premise of the question is why don't you stand up to Trump? You're just wrong that I don't. I was one of the few people that actually stood up against those major issues, whether it

was Charlottesville or other major challenges he had, what name? I'm the guy that stood up and talked about the disagreements that we had. Hmm. okay. Now, they say Scott was one of the six candidates on stage who raised their hand when asked if they would support Trump in the election should he win the GOP nomination. Coffey later called Scott out for not condemning Trump's actions on January 6th.

The president on January 6th wants to destroy our country. Do you agree with that or not? Scott says, I do not. He says, I believe that the people who are responsible for threatening my life were the people who were outside the chambers forcing their way into the Capitol. Coffee, you're a leader. You're a leader of this country, did nothing to help you out for two hours. Later, Coffey did an interview. He said, he's a politician, right?

He avoids direct questions because he doesn't want to lose a lot of Republican voters by saying what Christie is saying and some of the others are saying. Here is the reality, Michael. Senator Tim Scott, when it comes to this, he's wimping out. He wants to be Trump's VP. That's what he's running for. Vivette, out there with his little nonsense. They're all, some, actually, Nikki Haley is being highly critical of Trump.

Obviously, Chris Christie. Obviously, you have the scientists. But the bottom line is, this dude, he is playing for the number two spot. Absolutely. And Tim Scott is scared of his own shadow. And Tim Scott, I want you to Google Harrison Floyd, this brother right here, because if you become Trump's vice president, God forbid, this could be you in the next six, eight years, whatever it is. OK, so Tim Scott does not want to call out Trump. Tim Scott, when he was hemmed up by the 79 year old man, it was 187 minutes that Trump did absolutely nothing.

OK, yes, it was the people outside, but it was Benedict Donald who sent those people outside who were trying to get inside. He was the one who sent them there. And let it and let everybody I want everybody to understand this. Also, Tim Scott was also the one who tanked the George Floyd justice and policing act. And one of the most insulting things that he did was when he announced when he had his when he gave his speech announcing he's running for president, part of the reason why he said he should become president is because he refunded the police. What he was talking about

was when he went out and lied in September 2021 and said that they couldn't come to an agreement on the George Floyd Policing Act over defunding the police. And then the Fraternal Order Police and the International Association of Police Chiefs put out a joint memo saying that in none of the drafts

of the bill did it talk about defunding police and how they supported the bill. So Tim Scott is somebody that we definitely need to study and stop. All scant folk are not scant folk. He's a good example of that. Here's the thing, though. I watched the debate, Kelly,

and Tim Scott even at one point talked about what we must do is stop the spending in D.C. We must return the money to the states. First of all, Kelly, he's from broke-ass South Carolina. Okay?

Broke-ass South Carolina. South Carolina gets more money From the federal government than they send to the federal government So Y'all can't even fund Your damn sales Tim You need federal money But so check this out

He literally said that And I'll give her credit But she finally showed some guts This is what Nikki Haley Actually had to say about the spending in Washington D.C. And I'll give her credit, you know, but she finally showed some guts. This is what Nikki Haley actually had to say about the spending in Washington, D.C. I don't care about polls. What I care about the fact is that no one is telling the American people the truth. The truth is that Biden didn't do this to us.

Our Republicans did this to us, too. When they passed that $2.2 trillion COVID stimulus bill, they left us with 90 million people on Medicaid, 42 million people on food stamps. No one has told you how to fix it. I'll tell you how to fix it. They need to stop the spending. They need to stop the borrowing. They need to eliminate the earmarks that Republicans brought back in. And they need to make sure they understand these are taxpayer dollars, it's not their dollars. And while they're all saying this, you have Ron DeSantis, you've got Tim Scott, you've got Mike Pence, they all voted to raise the debt. And Donald Trump added $8 trillion to our debt. And our kids are never going to forgive us for this. And so at the end of the day, you look at the 2024 budget, Republicans asked for $7.4 billion in earmarks.

Democrats asked for $2.8 billion. So you tell me who are the big spenders. I think it's time for an accountant in the White House. I did crack up laughing when I saw Tim Scott talk about that. I'm kind of like, dude, that's you. He's a coward. He's a coward, Kelly. He is not going to criticize Trump because I'm trying to tell you, Kelly, he wants.

And I've talked to other black Republicans who have insisted to me, Tim Scott wants to be the VP. And that's all well and dandy. I want to be a millionaire like tomorrow. And that's just not going to happen. It's simply not feasible unless I hit the lottery, and that's not going to happen right now either because I don't play the lottery. And I say all that to say I don't care how much you suck up to Trump,

how much you do all these things, bend over backwards, compromise your morals, all these things. He's not going to pick you, sir. You are a black man in a Republican party. That's not going to happen. He's a racist. You're not going to get picked. He'll appreciate the money you raise him. He'll appreciate you sucking up to him. But that's about it. That's your limit. That is your glass ceiling, sir. And the fact that you don't see it

even though it is transparent as hell is baffling to me. Because it's been there. And you're looking up at it, and it's like, because it's so transparent, maybe you don't see it, maybe you're afraid to tap it a little bit, but

this is as far as you go. This is as far as you go. You're not getting picked. Well, the thing just goes to show in terms of how these folks think and how they operate. Matt is

again, they don't have courage. And to me, again, they're so scared of this dude. You're not going to beat somebody that you're scared of. You're simply not going to do it. And that's exactly, you know, what you see here. And so this little idiot, I mean, he's just, again, he flat out is operating as a coward. I'm trying to find a clip. Chris Christie was on with Neil Cavuto,

and they were talking about, you know, one of the other opponents. And the thing that was a trip to me was Cavuto asked Christie, if Vivette got the nomination, would you support him? The dude wouldn't even just say hell no. He wouldn't even say hell no. What he did was, oh, well, I can assure you that's never going to happen. No, how about just say hell no. What he did was oh well, I can assure you that's never going to happen. No, how about you say hell no? But the reason they can't do that, the reason they can't do

that, Matt, is because, again, they are scared to death of him. They're scared to death of him. They're scared to death of him actually being the nominee and them being locked out. I said it almost two years ago next month on ABC. These people care about power. They have no morals,

no values, no principles. They have no ethics. They have no patriotism. It's about power. That's why they all raised their hand. That's why they will not say with certainty, if this person gets the nomination, hell no, I'm not supporting them. Because what did Bill Barr do when he was on CNN? He laid out this whole

long deal, all the stuff that Trump did, and if he did those things, he should be convicted. But he then said, I'm not going to waste my vote. He would not rule out still voting for Donald Trump. It's because they, Matt, get power, and they're going to vote with one another to maintain power, even if it's Donald Trump. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time.

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fatherhood.gov. Brought to you by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. I don't disagree, and I'm not going to opine on that, but I saw Michael wanted to jump in, so I'll yield to him before I answer in earnest if he wanted to say something. No, no, no, no. You go ahead and answer. Okay. Well, in that respect, I don't think you're wrong at all. And I'm here to say publicly that I was completely wrong because I thought at this point the party of alleged morals and law and order at this point would have cut itself loose from Donald Trump, and he would be a non-factor. I've said that many times on this show, well in advance of this election cycle, and I was flat wrong. And I think you're 100 percent right. I mean, the fact that you had, what, six out of the

eight people on the stage the other night raise their hand and say they would still support him if he was convicted is absurd, right? Because not only are we in new frontier country as it relates to somebody running for president who may have convictions or who's been accused of such crimes, but I mean, you have absolutely no credibility in my mind if you're not willing to say this is beyond the pale, because please believe, please believe, Roland, if Tim Scott, the black behind, was indicted in one place, they would be castigating him and saying he absolutely could never be president again, right, or could never be president. The reason they're not doing that with Donald Trump is because they're afraid because of how Trump has managed other people who have come against him in the past. And I don't understand why instead of everybody just shutting him out, they're all so afraid. It doesn't make any sense to me, particularly because I think he's the frontrunner for the Republican nominee right now, obviously.

But I don't think that he's going to have the success in the general election. And I don't know why the Republicans are betting on him as their horse in the future. I think he's good at getting headlines. headlines, but I don't know that the American people overall are going to vote for him again, notwithstanding differences and voting tolls between Republicans and Democrats and old people and young people and all that stuff. I don't think he gets elected again, but I was wrong before. He's going to be the nominee, most likely. So I don't know why they're afraid of him, but they clearly are afraid of him. And you cannot beat somebody you're not, you know, willing to call out and run against

head up. Indeed. Hold tight one second. Go to the break. We're going to talk about a case out of Tulsa. We're going to come back to politics. In the debate, Fox News opened the debate talking about this hit song, Rich Men North of

Richmond. And they gave the impression that this guy was talking about Biden and Democrats. Well, the singer got the video today said now I was talking about them. Also, this weekend, events are happening in Washington, D.C. The commemorative 66th anniversary of the March on Washington with jobs and freedom will show you what some of the alphas had to say. The MLK Memorial about these events. watching the jobs and freedom uh will show you uh what some of the alphas had to say the mlk memorial about uh these events uh that lot more to break down right here on rolling mark unfiltered on the black star network

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Attorney Mario Solomon-Simmons and his legal team are appealing the Tulsa County District Court decision to deny the estate of a 1921 murder victim permission to reopen their case. One of the attorneys is Cordell Cephas. He joins me now from Tulsa to explain why Dr. Andrew Chastain's family is fighting to preserve the legacy and property rights of their ancestor and his descendants. Okay, so explain to us

exactly what's going on here. What are you actually appealing? Well, one, thanks for having me on, Martin. Roland, I apologize. What we're appealing in this matter is the denial of the family of Dr. Jackson to reopen his estate to simply marshal the newly discovered assets that have been discovered in his estate. In Oklahoma law, anyone can open it. Essentially, anyone can open an estate. It could be. Essentially, anyone can open an estate. It could be a creditor that can open his state. As we've seen in this case and in other cases, the bar has simply been raised higher for this, for the descendants of the Tulsa, the 1921 Tulsa race massacre. And the court, the Tulsa County Court, denied the opportunity to this family to open the estate and manage the affairs of their loved one. OK, I'm still confused. OK, they want to open the estate.

What's new information? What's what? What's new assets, new value? What does that mean? So we're looking at the name, the image, the likeness of Dr. Jackson, which is being exploited by individuals that are not related to him. His family. Like who? Particularly, we're looking at a number of institutions. There's a museum here in Tulsa, Greenwood Rising, which we believe are using pictures. But even beyond that, what we want to do, what the family wants to be able to do, simply control his image and likeness the same way that any other family would be able to control

the image and likeness of their deceased loved one. Okay. So, so you mean, you mean, so for the purpose of comparison, the MLK estate controls the image and likeness of Dr. King? Absolutely. Okay. We've not had an opportunity to do that. We simply went to the court and we've said, hey, we want to be able to do this. The court initially, one court actually said yes. And then individuals who are not related to this estate, not related to the family, came in and filed an action and requested the court to reconsider that or a motion to vacate what a prior court had done. And that court in this particular instance agreed and then closed the estate again. So we're at the point now where we have to appeal that under Oklahoma law, again, anyone can open an estate. However, not anyone can

object to an estate being open. And our concern is, again, the court has raised the standard or issued a new standard, which allowed individuals who are not related to the descendants and don't have any interest in the property of these descendants to object to the appointment of Don Jackson, the great nephew of Dr. Jackson, the deceased Dr. Jackson, and has prevented them from opening the estate and controlling the assets, the property, the name, image, and likeness of their deceased loved one. So what's next? When do you, I mean, when do you go to court? We've been to court on this a number of times. We've had a number of hearings in this matter. But at this point, what we're doing is we're appealing the Tulsa County District Court's opinion. We're appealing that to the Oklahoma Supreme Court. What we're requesting that the Oklahoma Supreme Court do is simply follow the law as written. The law as written would provide that anyone can open up this estate, anyone can marshal the assets, and it provides that not everyone, particularly the individuals in this action, the Hilly Foundation here in Tulsa, Oklahoma, it specifically said that they're

not an interested party. And because they're not interested, they don't have a right to come into court and prevent the family members of Dr. Jackson from opening up this estate. All right, then. OK, well, let us know what happens next. We'll keep you updated. All right. Appreciate it. Thanks so much. Thank you. Folks, we come back. We're going to talk about the March on Washington, the 60th anniversary of the March on Washington for jobs and freedom. Events are happening in D.C. this weekend to commemorate that. And so we'll share some of the things that are happening.

You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered right here on the streets a horrific scene a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence white people are losing their damn lives there's an angry pro-trump mob storm to the u.s capital we're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors

and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.

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but then he got the appointment to run the district that oversees Disney. Well, you can't hold two positions at one time, so therefore he's resigned. Go to my iPad. This is who Glenn Gilzine is, the brother right there. The district position pays $400,000 a year. He used to run the Orlando Urban League, and one of the first things that he did as chair of the Disney district was get rid of DEI and also changed in terms of contracting that happened there. Michael, this guy's been called an Uncle Tom. He's been called a turncoat. He's been blasted by a lot of different people because he praised Disney's DEI efforts when he ran the Urban League. Now he's carrying the water of Ron DeSantis. Yeah, you know, this is, this incident right here is the first I've heard about this.

And I don't know his whole background. Well, we covered this last week, and the guy spent seven years covering the Orlando, says CEO of the Orlando Urban League, and again, has praised diversity, equity, inclusion in the past. But then when he gets his $400,000 job, one of the first things he does is they stop any DEI efforts. And then they even blast, even change contracting rules, saying that Disney, oh, they were awarding contracts to minorities

and giving preferences, and that's not how we're going to do business. So it's kind of like, oh, so everything you were doing at the Urban League, now you want to do the opposite. Exactly. And people like this, you know, I know when we dealt with the story of the black judge who said all the right things to get the votes and then turn this back on the African-American community. So this seems like the same thing. OK, he said the right things when he was being paid by the Urban League and had the job. Now he's turning this back on the African-American community and harming us by removing DEI. Even though diversity, equity and inclusion is not all that most people want it to be, that does not mean you get rid of it, improve it, make it better.

So once again, this is another example of how elections have consequences. OK, and we need to check the backgrounds of these people as well, regardless of racial ethnicity. We need to hold them all to the same standard. Well, it's hilarious looking at this. This was a statement they put out here, Kelly, where he talked about, again, we discussed this last week, oh, they were warning, look at my iPad, they were warning contracts, you know, on race-based, setting quotas and things along those lines. And now this guy is sitting here trying to see. And his was so crazy here. They put out a statement.

He goes, this so-called diversity, equity, inclusion initiatives were advanced during the tenure of the previous board and they were illegal and simply un-American. And then he says, as the former head of the Central Florida Urban League, a civil rights organization, I can say defensively that our community thrives only when we work together, despite our differences. Like, dude, stop it. You're a suck up to Ron DeSantis. And frankly, you are you are a traitor to the efforts that you actually led beforehand, which was fighting for inclusion of black people and economic inclusion. For sure. And I know one thing, the people at the Urban League in Central Florida

are very much of the mindset that we don't know him no more because that is so against everything that the Urban League stands for. Now, I can see, I'm not going to say I understand per se, but we have plenty of examples of people who have grassroot experience, so to speak, in making sure that things are more progressive and making sure that people have equitable opportunity in this country. And then once they get to where they want to go, all of a sudden, everything is upside down, flipped inside out as far as the progress that was made. It does not surprise me that money all of a sudden makes you think that your black skin is irrelevant. And that seems to be the case here. And he will be sadly mistaken soon come because DeSantis, I was about to say DeSatan, DeSantis does not care. He does not care.

Well, you know what? Again, so he's resigned from the Ethics Commission, Matt. And look, as we talk about all the time is, as Matt Michael said, all skin folk ain't kin folk. Yeah, you're right. And as we talk about all this time on the show it's about power so kelly's last point this cat saw an opportunity to come up by now you know decrying the same efforts that he championed at the urban league and you know it's it's funny on one level that there are people who are easily that easily bought and sold but it's also scary because it shows you that you sometimes have sheeps or wolves in sheep's clothing who are in organizations purportedly doing such important work. And the moment they get out and it's advantageous for them to flip, they go in a different direction. Cats like this, you can't forget, right? Because we can't trust you now.

We know that you're going to flip-flop, especially with somebody like DeSantis. We're not talking about another politician where, you know, maybe some of their comments are on the line. This person is specifically and particularly attacking things like black history, the history of your own people in that state. So for you to have a job like this with the Urban League and then get out and now be decrying those same efforts, I mean, we can't ever trust anything you say going forward.

And it's about power, and it's sad, but he's obviously corrupted by the opportunity to have it. Indeed, indeed. All right, y'all, quick break. We come back. We're talking 16th anniversary of the march in Washington. Also, we still got to talk a little bit more politics. So, Fox News

started their debate talking about this hit song by this artist out of Virginia. And oh, the white conservatives have been embracing this saying, see, he talked about them dad-gum liberals. And he's like, nah, I was talking about the Republicans on the stage. What did I show you of what he had to say?

You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. You go to a winner's barbershop, here's what I'm doing. You go to the barbershop where people feel defeated, they talk about other people, either celebrities or people they admire. But also often, I don't like Joe. I don't like Roland Martin. Let me tell you something. I don't understand people.

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But if I don't like me, I'm not going to like you. If I don't feel good about me, it's hard for me to feel good about you. If I don't respect me, don't expect me to respect you. If I don't love me, I don't have a clue how to love you. And here's the big one. If I don't have a purpose in my life, I'm going to make your life a living hell. On a next of balanced life with me dr jackie summer is flying by and back to school is just around the corner and fall is here that's right a new season is upon us on our next show we talk

about jumping into action and putting procrastination in the rearview mirror. That's on a next A Balanced Life with Dr. Jackie here on Black Star Network. Me, Sherri Shebra, and you know what you're watching, Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks, welcome back to Roller Martin Unfiltered. So the other night during the Republican debate, they opened it up by talking about this song by Oliver Anthony. It is called Rich Man North of Richmond. This song has exploded. It's gone to number one on the Hot Billboard 100 charts.

He's turned down an $8 million record deal. It was just, again, a hit out of nowhere. And so, it's a country song. So all of the country folk, they're largely white, conservative, and they love Republicans. And so, Fox

News tried to portray it as, oh, this guy, he's hitting the elites, those liberal elites in this country with this song. Well, Oliver today dropped a 10 minute video where he said. I was actually talking about the very people who was on that stage, those Republicans. Hmm. I wonder if they're going to keep buying his song next week. Watch this. Well, hey there. It's August 25th, 2023.

A lot's changed since the last time I sat here and spoke to you. My friends and family have asked me how I'm doing. Everybody is wondering if I've lost my sanity yet. my friends and family have asked me how I'm doing. Everybody is wondering if I've lost my sanity yet. I'm surprisingly calm and at peace. I don't even know what to say, but I feel thankful to be given this opportunity. The music side is exciting I feel thankful to be given this opportunity. The music side is exciting and all the billboard, iTunes, charts and all that crap, that's great.

The exciting part has been the conversations I've had with people and the things I've learned just in a couple of weeks about the human spirit and about all sorts of other things, the music industry and how dirty everything is. Like, it's worse than you think. You go to the movies to escape and McCall can help audiences to escape. People connect with that simple message of getting justice for the everyday person. People love that character, and people love Denzel Washington. When he starts to do his thing, magic starts happening.

He spent his whole life helping these type of people. How did he just walk away from that? McCall had gotten addicted to unnecessary violence. He couldn't stay away. He had one more job to do, right or wrong. Demercia. There's late cancer, but there are consequences. They can take anything I want.

I still damage the odd fellow here and there. Use some various utensils. When necessary. The Equalizer 3. Features Thursday. All right, folks. We're playing. Bring it up to me.

All right, folks. We're playing the spot from his YouTube channel. And so they got ads in here. So now we're back at it. Go ahead, play it. So I don't know what the future looks like for me. I'm not really too concerned about the future. I'm living in the present.

And I just have to have the discernment to make the right decisions from here on out. Because I think about that guy who was sitting here a few weeks ago talking to you. And the most important thing to me is not leaving him behind. So, again, his life has changed in a huge way since this song dropped. And what has really been interesting, again, is how conservatives, I guess they think he's the new Jason Aldean. And they're going to want to use this to attack President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and liberals. But it sort of reminds me when Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to attack,

what the hell song was it? I forgot one of the shows, and she was like, well, why don't y'all play Tennessee Whiskey? And then it was kind of like, you know Stapleton supports Black Lives Matter,

Chris Stapleton. Again, they just assume that if you're a country singer, that you're all for them. So listen to this guy right here. I'm disappointed to see, like, it's aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me like I'm one of them. It's aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians act like we're buddies and act like we're fighting the same struggle here,

like that we're trying to present the same message. You know, I've had a lot of people reach out to me, and I've tried to be polite to everybody, and I've talked to hundreds of people the last two weeks. It seems like certain people want to just ride the attention of this song to maybe make their own selves relevant, and that's aggravating as hell. The other thing that I find aggravating is,

well, you know, like, it was funny seeing my song in the, it was funny seeing it at the presidential debate, because it's like, I wrote that song about those people, you know? So for them to have to sit there and listen to that, that cracks me up. But it was funny kind of seeing the response to it. Like, that song has nothing to do with Joe Biden, you know? It's a lot bigger than Joe Biden.

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kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill.

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We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers. But we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. A wrap-away, you've got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else. But never forget yourself. Self-love made me a better dad because I realized my worth. Never stop being a dad. That's dedication. Find out more at fatherhood.gov. Brought to you by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. That song is written about the people on the on that stage and a lot more too, not not just them, but definitely them.

Ah! I'm mad. Boy, they're going to be mad as hell with him. I bet they're sitting here trying to go to their phones, delete that shit right now. I'm going to delete this damn song. Shit, I thought he was one of ours. Yeah.

Yeah, they're going to be mad because, you know, look, they try to paint country singers and white people as monolithic the same way they try to paint us as monolithic. But in that instance, it's especially insidious because they're trying to use it to make their political point and don't even know that he wrote it about them. And not about Joe Biden, but about them and about people like that. I don't know the song. I can't really attest to the lyrics. But I think it's important that he came out in second. I especially think that's important. I think that shows his character. Rather than, you know, soaking it up and taking the opportunity to just move forward, he thought it was important to say, no, that's not what I wrote it for.

And I think it's aggravating that they're leveraging it the way that they are. But this is kind of hearkening back to what we talked about with Trump earlier and the appearance of things. And that's what you see, especially with conservatives these days. It's all about the appearance. It's all about how it appears and the appearance of strength and the appearance of unity,

the appearance of patriotism or whatever else, even if that isn't the truth. And this is a good example of that exact principle. Man, they're going to be so mad at him. Kelly! Oh, they're going to be mad at him. They're going to be like, you damn traitor.

Now you're one of them Black Lives Matter or damn activists. You know, he's woke now. That's going to be the new headline. But wait till they find out that black people invented country music. Then they'll just, you know, roll over in their graves once they die. What? What? That's, how dare you? Hey, hey. But no, it's interesting to me how, again, to Matt's point, how people have treated country music like it is a monolith and country music from white people, from Black people,

even some Asian people, Hispanic people. I mean, Ray Charles, my God, you know? Um, and that's just one example that I can think of off the top of my head. So, for it, uh, for him to have to defend himself against... against this is very interesting to me, because this isn't the first time that this has happened. You mentioned Chris Stapleton. I mean, I remember growing up, the Dixie Chicks. There are now Black country music artists right now who are, you know, on the rise. Mickey Guyton, incredible.

You know, so they need to stop trying to, frankly, pinhole country music, pinhole any type of music as if it's the national anthem for racism. It is not. It never has been, never will be, and they just need to get over it. I just love that he said they had to stand there, Michael, and listen to my song, and I was talking about them.

Yeah, Roland, and, you know, I read the article NBC News just released dealing with Oliver Anthony's statements, and they described the song as a folksy lament topping the charts about the frustration of a working class person who toils for low wages and sees his meager earnings eaten up by taxes. Well, last time I checked, African-American women make 63 cents to 67 cents on the dollar that every white male makes. And it takes the average African-American woman 20 months to make the same amount that it takes the average white male to make 12 months. We know that African-American men are underpaid as well. We know there's an eight-to-one racial wealth gap as well, okay?

It's not because white people work eight times harder or eight times smarter. So this is going to, once again, come back a haunting. But this shows how Republicans automatically think, and we can say some Democrats as well, we talked about that here, automatically think working class means white people or white males. It does not. Working class is not specific to any

race. You have Latinos, Asian Americans who are working class as well. So this is going to come back to bite them in the behind and kick them in the behind, which it should. And that's what they do. All right, y'all. We come back. We're going to talk Marching Washington, 60th anniversary.

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Reverend Martin Luther King Jr., John Lewis, so many others were speaking that day. The focus, of course, was on economics for African Americans and exercising their power. Well, this weekend, again, the commemoration will take place earlier today, actually right before the show at the MLK Memorial. Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated held an event that featured several of the past presidents, including also Ambassador Andrew Young, Reverend Freddie Haynes III, Mark Morial, President and CEO of the National Urban League, Freddie Haynes, of course,

the CEO of the Rainbow Push Coalition, and others. I had a chance to catch up with Alpha presidents Willis Lonser, Everett Ward, Harry Johnson, who heads the Memorial Foundation, Herman Skip Mason. We also caught up with Freddie Haynes and Mark Muriel, and this is what they had to say. All right, Harry, talk about today's program. So proud to be here with the president of Alpha Phi Alpha and the brothers of Alpha Phi Alpha as they talk about the purpose and significance of the 60th anniversary of the March on Washington and Alpha Phi Alpha's role and Dr. King's role in the same. Brother President?

It is a pleasure to be here today. We look on 60 years as a breath of fresh air to renew our commitment to Brother King's vision and more importantly to the presence in the country as we try to lift everyone up as we remarkably look back on 60 years of this march. What a significant event. This is an important day to commemorate the legacy of Dr. King and so many others who came to this nation and said that we must seek equal rights and justice for all. But even today is a reminder that that battle and that

struggle is not over. And that as we memorialize the 60th anniversary, it is our responsibility to continue to fight for justice, continue to fight for equal opportunities, and never turn back the clock of injustice as it is being proposed today. This gathering is important that we assemble here 60 years later to observe the 60th anniversary. I had the pleasure of being on the plane with Ambassador Andrew Young, who's the last man standing, and he recounted the pressure and the threats that they had even with the gathering of this memorial. So I'm honored to be here. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

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the greatest citizen of this country who truly fought to make America America. I'm here because I believe that, number one, there is an all-out war on democracy at the hands of neo-fascism. Sixty years ago, fascism was in vogue, and our ancestors marched dreaming about democracy, authentic democracy, against the nightmare of fascism. And so we've come back because now, 60 years later, we find ourselves dealing with a new brand of fascism

with many expressions from what we see in the war on education, what Jacob Carruthers would call historicide, murdering our memory. There is also in this nation, sadly, what is going down in Alabama is a metaphor. A brother gets elected mayor, and even though he's elected mayor, they lock the doors on him. Alabama, practicing state's rights, decides that the Supreme Court ruling against their gerrymandered districting is something they want to overturn. And then, of course, what we see with our criminal justice system system as we have seen Bryan Stevenson is still right to be rich and white and guilty is much better than to be poor black and innocent. And so we've come here with all of those issues because as I believe it was

Audrey Lord said we are multi-issue people because there's so many issues that we are dealing with. This matters because of the big six, two of them, Martin Luther King Jr. and Whitney Young Jr. were members of Alpha Phi Alpha and this counts because Alpha's contribution to civil rights, Thurgood Marshall, and I can name Alpha, and who brought Alpha leadership, Alpha intelligence, Alpha insistence on justice to that conversation 60 years ago. And tied to where we are now, commemorating is one thing, but this really should be an agenda-based focus, if you will, that's present day. And it is. We are calling it a continuation.

So, Roland, you know as well as anyone, and you've reported on this and you've covered this, that the attacks on our progress, voting rights, our history, diversity, equity, and inclusion, access to college, the continuing racial wealth gap and the racial income gap are big challenges and now our progress is under assault. So this is a time for continuation and a call to action. And that call to action for me is three things. One, we must defend and fix American democracy.

Number two, we must demand diversity, equity, and inclusion in all aspects of American life, from campuses to colleges to boardrooms. And thirdly, we must defeat poverty. Too many of our folks, too many Americans, too many black Americans, too many Americans of all races, but especially black Americans, live in poverty every day.

Too many children. We must defeat poverty. That call to action animates the energy around the continuation of this commitment connected with this march. The thing that I think is important here, Michael, and that is I got no problem with commemorating events. But I believe that there has to be other things around it. So, for instance, every year people gather in Selma to commemorate Bloody Sunday. Yet people come there. Actually, they don't even spend money in Selma. Most of them stay in Montgomery. And I've said

that if you go back next year, there should be a call, there should be an economic summit there. Because economically, Selma looks like it did when Bloody Sunday took place. When I think about people when they go to Memphis to commemorate Dr. King's assassination,

the focus is not on economics. It's, again, it's just looking back. And, you know, the thing is, if we have the photos show it today, a number of different civil rights organizations, about 12 of them met with the Department of Justice. They also had a meeting at the White House. And so, you know, those things are important.

But I think what is critically important is for the people to be given an agenda. It's great to come there for a day of speeches. But the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom had an agenda and a purpose attached to it. I'm going to discuss this Sunday on the African History Network show because this is so important. I hear a lot of people talking about commemorating and rededication, things like this. That's important, but you have to understand the history that caused the need for the march on Washington.

They didn't have a march because they were bored. Okay. And this, this was a continuous fight by African-Americans. Um, and you know, a Philip Randolph and, and brother John Lewis, two members of five beta sigma fraternity incorporated. So you got two members of alpha phi alpha who were, uh, big six. Yeah, of course you You want to slide that in. Go ahead. And you got, well, you, hold on. I just want to make sure. No, no. We want to make sure this is historically accurate.

No, no. It is historically accurate, but it was led, but the person that remembers the alphas. Go ahead. Well, keep, remember, A. Philip Randolph is trying to do that for decades, okay? Keep that in mind. You said tried. You said tried. trying to do that for decades. Keep that in mind. You said try. Well, he called it off. Remember 1941? Michael, finish your point, Michael.

You ain't going to win this one. You ain't going to win this one. Oh, yes, I will. That's how you got Executive Order 8802. He forced the hand of President Roosevelt. He threatened to put a hundred thousand after the American March on Washington. Michael, keep going. You ain't threatened to put $100,000 after the American march on Washington. Everybody remembers 1963. Michael, keep going.

Keep going. You ain't going to win this one, Michael. You ain't going to win it. But what happens is, you know, the biggest thing that people probably remember from August 28, 1963, is Dr. King delivering his speech, I Have a Dream. The problem is, is that that wasn't the name of the speech. It wasn't called I Have a Dream until years later. The original name of the speech was Normalcy Never Again. And then it was called a cancel.

A Normalcy No More. Normalcy No More. Normalcy No More, then a cancel check. Because Dr. King and others, they were challenging the John F. Kennedy administration to hold them accountable to what he said, a promissory note given 100 years earlier.

They're talking about 1863, the Emancipation Proclamation. And if you actually read the speech, you can probably go to archives.gov or Library and Congress or the King Center. You read the speech. He calls out police brutality. He calls out segregation, poverty, racism, discrimination. It's not until Mahalia Jackson screams out, tell them about the dream, Martin, that he shifts to start talking about the beloved community and the dream. The speech was about dismantling white supremacy and racism.

This is what he's talking about in the speech. And lastly, if people just read the Clarence B. Jones, who was one of Dr. King's speechwriters, who helped write that speech, he wrote an article, an op-ed for The Washington Post. It's called On Martin Luther King Day, Remembering the First Draft of I Have a Dream. And he talks about how in the drafts of the speech, the phrase I have a dream didn't exist. And even Y.T. Walker, who was one of Dr. King's lieutenants, one of his aides, he told Dr. King, don't talk about that tired dream stuff in this speech. So we have to get the history correct here.

They keep trying to distract us with the dream. They do the same thing with the mountaintop speech. They focus on the last two minutes. The speech was about 43 minutes. But first of all, again, my focus here, Kelly, is not the speech. The focus has to be on what was the agenda. And the agenda, all the speakers, and what the focus was, was to, again, deal with economics.

And what I'm saying is, I attend a lot of these commemorations. We cover them a lot. But frankly, I haven't for a number of them because for me, what is the agenda Monday? See, again, first of all, the actual anniversary is Monday. But the events this weekend are fine. The gathering is fine. But what are we asking our people to do on Monday? That, to me, is what's most important.

It is most important. With anything, you need to have a call to action. And the call to action every year when it comes to the march on Washington, in my opinion, and I don't mean to belittle it whatsoever, but in the grand scheme of things, outside of the day itself, it just feels like the call to action is to come back next year. And that's just insufficient. Like you said, there needs to be an agenda, but not only what the original agenda was, like you said, the initial title or name of the march was for freedom and jobs or for jobs and for freedom. And especially in the black community, which is what the focus of this march was at the time, we need to expand that within those two titles. We need to expand that to include the LGBT community.

We need to expand that to truly include black women. We need to expand that to include all black people because at this juncture in time, all of it matters. Well, actually, but the original march was for black people and it actually included black gay people because one of the co-organizers was Byron Rushton. And I understand that. That's my point. But what I'm saying is that has been overlooked. And we need to reintroduce that into the agenda for this year and the years to come. What has been overlooked? The fight for black people? No, the fact that black women were involved, that queer people were involved.

We don't talk about that enough. In this conversation, yes, we do. But in the grand conversation of things, this is still a very little known fact. Well, actually, the point about the inclusion of women, they were actually not included. Women were on the, on that particular day, Daisy Bates spoke. There was a pre-program. And the reason she spoke is because Merle Evers was actually elsewhere. But on the actual number of speakers for the official program, they were all men. And so, one, that's the case.

A. Philip Randolph and Bob Rustin were the co-chairs of it. The thing for me is, again, I don't mind there being events commemorating. And there are going to be a plethora of speakers who are going to be men, women, young folks, gay folks, single folks, married folks. There's going to be a plethora of people. What I still believe is, what I'm still looking for, and I haven't seen it, that is of the organizers of this, okay, what are we asking people collectively

to mobilize around come Monday? See, to me, I think the mistake with a lot of these events is that they're just a flashback. They're a look back. It's a reason to gather. I'm always saying, okay, so like when somebody calls a meeting, my first thing is, why are we meeting? Like, why are we here?

And that, to me, is what I struggle with for a lot of these commemorations. I'm not talking about just, I'm trying to expand this, not just this, but I can bring up a whole bunch, and I get the phone calls, and they're like, hey, Roland, can you guys live stream? Can you cover? And I'm going, okay, what are we doing? What's the purpose? What's actually behind this?

For me here, Matt, it's like are there particular bills we're asking our people to push them on Monday? What are we asking Congress to do? What are we asking

state? And look, all of these folks, like, first of all, I would love to ask. I'm going to send a text in a second. So they met with the Department of Justice. I would love to know, did the 12 civil rights organizations request a meeting with Republican House leadership? And what did they say? So for me, and again, so I would love that because if the Democrats said we'll meet

and the Republicans didn't, why not? That's what I'm arguing that too often with these commemorations, they are events for us to gather. But I just think we've got to be pushing our people to what's next? What's the agenda? What's next? What's next?

What's next? I appreciate flashbacks. I appreciate people who are going to recount what Dr. King said and what it meant. I appreciate that two of his three children, we know Dexter's not going to be there. So MLK III and Bernice are going to be there. But I'm like, okay, why?

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Well, first, I'll say my youngest son is the namesake of Bayard Rustin. So I'm glad you brought up Rustin's name because it just is indispensable. But beyond all that, you know what else we have to stop doing, Roland? We have to stop allowing people to join us at commemorations who the rest of the time stand in the way of the progress of what the march and other such events are for this is what i hate about mlk day and all of the other events that we have is because the same people who vote against our ability to vote go and then lionize by him despite working intently against exactly what he fought for. So commemorations are pointless if not only, to your point, we're not going to have a campaign, because if you look historically, that's what was engaged in. That's what Reverend Barber is doing these days. That's what people are doing is campaigns, not just point-in-time events. But beyond that, we cannot

allow people to have a seat at the table who actively work against our interests. And the reality of that is that's exactly what we see with Congress. Every time something's not passed that helps the people, we shouldn't allow that Congressperson to be at the next commemoration. But too often, we, I think, think that proximity to power is going to make us have progress that we demonstrably don't have. And I'm not the one making policy, but to me, I don't know why we keep inviting people to the table who are not sharing the meal with us. So when it comes to commemorations, not only do we need campaigns, but we need greater

accountability. Because if you're going to be at the table with us, then it's incumbent on you to make sure that going forward, this agenda actually materializes into better lives for people. I'll give an example, Kelly. Who the hell turned MLK Day into a day of service? MLK

Day should be a day of protest. MLK wasn't sitting here saying, hey, go contribute to the food bank and go serve some meals. No! The man was fighting, advocating for change. MLK Day should be a day where there are massive protests around shit you care about on that day.

Right. No, you're absolutely right. It is unfortunate that the whole premise of MLK Day has, frankly, been bastardized and diluted over the years, because the fact that there was a holiday at all dedicated to MLK was a form of protest, was a form of resistance. And because it needed to be palatable in order to be accepted, we have diluted the grovement of what this holiday means and what even March on Washington means. Because note how we don't say March on Washington for jobs and freedom. We just say the March on Washington. And we don't talk about the other speakers of that day. We only talk about the I Have a Dream speech. All of this is designed to make these events, these momentous, incredible events,

more palatable for those who do not, frankly, care about the Black struggle, but want to align themselves with the good so that they are not ostracized themselves. And that is unfortunate. And look, I just, again, for me, for me, here, Michael. Tomorrow's commemoration should be followed up with calling on every follower of every organizational leader that speaks tomorrow to blow the phone lines of Congress up demanding a living wage, $15 an hour. Again, it was called the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. Tomorrow should be saying, come Monday, we are going to have our folks hit every House Republican, every Republican state legislature

when it comes to fighting against these voter suppression bills. And Monday should be a renewed call for President Joe Biden to publicly demand for Congress to take up the George Floyd Justice Act this year as well. Why? Again, I'm mentioning three very specific themes that were in that particular speech that M.O.K. gave.

I just don't want to see folks tomorrow gathering just to gather in the heat. Yeah. So, Roland, this is an example why this show is so important, because I've seen coverage in mainstream media of the 60th commemoration, and they didn't go in-depth like this. Hell no! Because they're full of shit. Well, I'm talking about even when they have civil rights leaders, black civil rights leaders. I'm not going to call them.

What? No, they're full of shit! Mainstream white media loves performative Negro events. Right. And they go there, and they, so let me show you how this goes. They go, okay, so we want to get a couple questions. So, so-and-so, how does it feel to be here in the same place

where Dr. King gave his speech in 1968? Exactly. And then they go, is his dream still alive? And then if you go, have you read the speech? Right. Well, no, no. I'm just asking questions.

I just want to get, you know, about 30 seconds if you could just sort of speak about. Then it's like, were you there? Like, no, I was born in 1968. It was like, the speech was in 1963. I mean, that's literally what they do.

And so it is not designed for any nuance, and they damn sure don't bring it present day. Exactly. So a few things here. Number one, yes, there has to be marching orders. The conditions have to be connected to the policy and the bills and what you're demanding of the people.

Yes, an agenda has to be presented that is tied to also what they were demanding in 1963 as well, okay? But something that's extremely important is the history surrounding 1963 and why they had to have that march, okay, has to be dealt with as well. And the real history of Dr. King has to be taught on Dr. King Day and when we have these commemorations. So part of Dr. King Day should be protests for policies that you want. But the other part of Dr. King Day should be studying Dr. King, because I'm telling you, most Americans, regardless of race, don't

understand how revolutionary Dr. King was, having read any of his five books. And Roland, you did an excellent job when you had Professor Charles E. Cobb Jr. on your show, News One Now with Roland Martin, where he talked about his book, This Nonviolent Stuff Will Get You Killed, How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible, because Dr. King owned guns until Bayard Rustin convinced him to get rid of his guns, okay?

So when we start understanding the armed resistance that was involved in the modern-day civil rights movement, as you talked about, and then you interviewed Professor Charles E. Cobb Jr. for two hours on your Nasty Syndicated radio show as well, after you had him on your show, on your TV show. When we start digging into this history, we understand how much we have been lied to about

these people and about this movement and then we'll start seeing some real results coming from it. Final comment, Michael. Excuse me, Matt. I just think that we can't keep inviting people who are working against our interests to come to these commemorations

so they can get an attaboy from the media and people who watch it. All right, folks, that is it for us. So let me just say this here. I will not be at the event tomorrow. I'm actually going to pop. I'm not. Not going to happen.

And again, to the folks who are going to be there, not a problem. Enjoy the event. I'm sure it'll be on C-SPAN. I'm sure people will be covering it. And just understand one of the reasons why, because for me, what I often say, and I say this all the time, the biggest thing for me is I want to know what are we doing Monday. A lot of times when people invite me to cover these events, I'll tell them, hey, I'm skipping that event, but invite me to the six-month follow-up meeting.

And that to me is what's most important, what is going to be the follow-up meeting. And so, I already planned, you know, this week Dave Chappelle has been in New York City. He's had four shows at Madison Square Garden, Tuesday, Wednesday, his birthday was Thursday. He has a four shows at Madison Square Garden, Tuesday, Wednesday. His birthday was Thursday. He has a show tonight, and he has another show tomorrow.

So I'll be at the Chappelle show tomorrow night celebrating with Dave. And you know what? So I was going to sit and go there late. Then I was following Spike Lee on social media. And so I'm going to be giving y'all coverage of another really important event tomorrow happening in Fort Washington, Fort Greene Park. So I'll be in New York. Go to my iPad.

I'll be there. You know, Spike does this annual event every single year. It's called the Brooklyn MJ Prince Party. So I'm going to be there. Got the little third. Yeah, I'm going to be there, y'all. So he's going to be live streaming this event on YouTube from 12 to 7. And so what the hell, I'm going to pop in and check him out.

And then, of course, I had so Sunday Invest Fest is happening in Atlanta. Isaac Hayes III of Fanbase is speaking. Robert Smith, who is, of course, the richest African-American in the country, Alpha, is speaking as well. Michael, just in case you need that little detail. And so I'm going to pop through InvestFest. And then Chris Tucker has his golf tournament on Monday. Savoy has theirs on Tuesday. And so I'll be broadcasting from Atlanta those two days.

And so y'all look at our social media. I'll have some wonderful content for us to be able to show on the show on Monday and Tuesday as well. Thank you to Matt. I'm sorry. Yes, to Kelly, Mango, Mussolini, Bethann, and to Michael, always trying to plug Sigma's as well. Thanks a bunch as well. All right, folks, that's it. I appreciate all of y'all watching the show.

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