#RolandMartinUnfiltered - GA Runoffs; Dean out over Biden post, Black voters #1 issue: racism; 3rd Breonna Taylor juror speaks

Episode Date: November 18, 2020

11.17.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: All eyes on Georgia as Senate runoffs loom; Has Ossoff already won? University dean out over Biden voter FB post, Exit poll data says Black voters #1 issue for pushing Trump out and electing Biden: Structural racism; 3rd Breonna Taylor grand juror speaks out; American Medical Association says that racism is a threat to public health; President of Morris Brown College is here to talk about the future of their renewed accreditation; Crazy a$$ woman in California pissed off at a Black man and his dog moved into her neighborhood.Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered Partner: Ceek Whether you’re a music enthusiast or an ultra-base lover. CEEK’s newly released headphones hear sound above, below and from multiple directions unlike traditional headphones where users only hear sound from left and right speakers. Be the first to own the world's first 4D, 360 Audio Headphones and mobile VR Headset. Check it out on www.ceek.com and use the promo code RMVIP2020 #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Martin! Today is Tuesday, November 17, 2020. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, Georgia Representative-elect Nakima Williams will join us. We'll talk about the upcoming runoffs in that state, her replacing the late Congressman John Lewis in Congress, and get her thoughts on Lindsey Graham and all the drama that he's been involved with trying to toss out ballots in the Peach State.

Investigative journalist Greg Pallis says John Ossoff has already won the election. Really? He will join us to explain. In the latest election news, Wesleyan University Dean has resigned after calling Joe Biden voters ignorant and anti-American, while Donald Trump challenges the election results continue to be denied everywhere,

including now in Pennsylvania. A newly released 2020 exit poll survey shows that the number one issue that black voters want President-elect Joe Biden to address is structural racism. We'll talk about some of the others. An ongoing study by the American Medical Association says that racism is a threat to the nation's public health.

And the president of Morris Brown College will be joining us to talk about the future of the university after they have now been accredited. Plus we'll update you on the cases of Breonna Taylor and Kwan Charles, the brother, young brother who was killed, found dead in Louisiana. Plus, another crazy-ass white woman in California pissed off at a black man and his dog moved into her neighborhood.

Y'all, she's truly nuts. It's time to bring the funk. I'm Roland Martin, Unfiltered. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Let's go. of politics He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best, you know he's rolling, Martin. Martin. Many of us were shocked and sad by the death of Congressman John Lewis earlier this year. But the woman who won his seat says she is certainly going to do her part to uphold his legacy in Congress. She is Nakima Williams, and she joins us right now on Roland Martin Unfiltered. How you doing? Hey, Roland. Glad to be here. Last time I saw you, of course,

we were at the Joe Biden rally in Atlanta, had to keep a little distance from each other. Everybody was practicing safe distancing, wearing masks and all that good stuff. And so good to see you first and foremost. Yeah, precisely, precisely. And so that's why I wear my show shirt on my name. So people are like, who's that? I'm like, it's on the shirt. Like, read the shirt.

So glad to have you. I wore my little AKA sweater tonight. We could have been matching. Hey, look, I'm always so glad to have. Wore my little AKA sweater tonight. We could have been matching. Hey, look, I'm always representing Alphas. Plus, you know, the, the makers have their founders day to day, but I, I gotta remind them who's a daddy. So that's why I'm wearing my Alpha stuff. So let's get, let's get, let's get right into it.

First and foremost, uh, you, you crush, uh, Angela Stanton. Uh, she's been running out here talking about, she's the niece of Dr. King and all kind of other stuff along those lines. And it's been just the kind of misinformation being spread. And the Trump people really, really thought that Black Atlanta was somehow going to flip to their side and vote for the craziness that we're seeing out of the Oval Office? So, I mean, even today we saw that she's been on Twitter, which is her motivation, I guess. She's been on Twitter saying that I somehow cheated and she wants somebody to look into this election. And there's no way that I got this over 300,000 votes. Roland, I got more votes in this general election than any congressional candidate has ever gotten in the history of candidates in the state of Georgia. And she lost. People were not buying what she was trying to sell.

And the 5th District is much smarter than what she considered or what Donald Trump could buy. And so I am thrilled to be here. I'm in Washington, D.C. right now at new member orientation while she continues to complain at home on Twitter. I do find that to be hilarious that she would claim. I mean, you crushed her. I don't think she even got 20 percent of the vote. But you know what, though? We've seen the same thing. I'm not 15, but who's counting?

Right, right. Who's counting? Kim Claychick got crushed by Kwasi Mfume. That fool out in California who got crushed by Congresswoman Maxine Waters. Same thing. I mean, these folks actually are tossing out. And what they're trying to do is they're doing what Donald Trump did from the outset in 2015, sow seeds of discontent. When they lose, oh, we got cheated. It was all rigged. No, you just got your ass whooped. I mean, let's be clear, Roland. They were put in the race to do just this.

They were put in the race not because Donald Trump expected them to win or he cares about uplifting the voices of black people. They were put in the race to suppress black votes so that they could continue to spew his hate and vitriol and try and keep black voters at home. And it didn't work. It didn't work. And you're seeing what they're doing. I mean, first of all, it is unbelievable to see what's happening in your state where the Republican secretary of state has come out and said that he had a witness on the phone with him when Senator Lindsey Graham asked him to toss out legally cast ballots. Now Graham is saying, oh, no, I call a number of other secretaries of state. But then the one in Arizona said, no, you did not call me.

It's amazing how the lies are catching up with these Trump people. The lies are catching up. Donald Trump is bringing his entire party down with him. When people show you who they are, we should absolutely believe them. Donald Trump is a liar, and he is making sure that we ex... that he exposes all of the rest of his cronies along with him. I am confident when the recount is said and done, Joe Biden will still be on top,

and he will get the 16 electoral college votes from Georgia. We have delivered for November, and we're gonna do the same thing when we send your frat, Raphael Warnock, to the U.S. Senate and we're going to send John Ossoff up with him. So obviously all eyes are on Georgia and Fair Fight and others are saying to folks, look, we don't need folks coming to Georgia. You can do the stuff where you are. What are you saying to people, folks who say, I want you are. What are you saying to people, folks who say, I want to help, I want to register people, I want to raise money,

I want to knock on doors, I want to go door to door, because the Republicans are moving in massive numbers of people. They are about, look, the estimate is that $100 million will be spent on Georgia over between now and January 5th. And so what is needed to support Warnock and Ossoff in Georgia? Are you there, Roland? Yeah, I'm still here. Can you hear me now? Yes. I was asking, you know, what is needed there? Will there be door to door canvassing? You know, will there be socially distanced events as well? Because again, this is, I mean, historically, Democrats have gotten crushed in Georgia

in runoff elections. Historically, that is very true, Roland, but historically, Democrats have not been winning for presidential candidates in Georgia either. So we just shocked the world when what we're able to do on November 3rd, and we are ready. We absolutely need volunteers from all across the country. We have an out-of-state volunteer program so that they can be a part of the collective groups that are working already on the ground. And we have in-state volunteers. There will be socially distanced rallies. We're going to mobilize our voters, but we're also going to keep people safe in the process.

Republicans have yet to realize that this pandemic is real, but we do, and we're going to keep people safe while turning out the vote. So I'm the chairwoman of the Democratic Party of Georgia, first Black woman to ever chair our state Democratic Party. I don't take this lightly. I don't take my responsibilities lightly. And we are mobilizing around the clock. We have our coordinated campaign where we're working for both candidates. And so people can go to Georgia Democrat dot org and they can get all of the ways that they can engage with the campaigns. Obviously, money is one thing, but also people can register by December 7th. Do y'all have an estimate of what's the target goal you're trying to hit? How many folks you want to be able to register

between now and December 7th? So there are a lot of organizations that are registering voters. The Democratic Party of Georgia, we're focused on people who requested absentee ballots and didn't get them back in for the November election.

So we have a coordinated plan where we're allowing people who do the voter registration best to focus on that part of the work. And that is organizations like NAACP, organizations like the Georgia Coalition for the People's Agenda. There are a number, and New Georgia Project, they're doing massive voter registrations to make sure that people can get registered by the deadline. And we're moving forward with the direct candidate part of the work. And so, and so speaking of that, you know, what is that strategy in terms of laying it out?

We were already seeing the negative ads coming out from, from Kelly Loeffler's camp. We're already seeing that. And so look, this is not right now, frankly, about convincing voters. This is about turnout. This is, this is a right now, frankly, about convincing voters. This is about turnout. This is a 100% turnout effort. This is a turnout effort. We are calling on surrogates, Roland, like yourself, people that speak to sectors of our electorate that we need to mobilize trusted voices. We need them to lend their voice to Georgia

to make sure that we are amplifying our message here in the state. So I am doing an all-call. My contact information is on the Democratic Party of Georgia website. We have ways that you can sign up to be a surrogate to help us reach voters. We know that we need—this is—people are saying that we shouldn't nationalize this election. It's going to decide the balance of the United States Senate and what we're able to pass in Congress, if we're going to be able to have a national response to this pandemic, what we're going to if we're going to be able to get more help directly back into the hands of the American people. But we need a U.S. Senate to do that. So this is absolutely going to affect the entire country. So I am calling on influencers from across the country to help us amplify our message here in Georgia. And let's get this done, y'all.

What is it that you want to accomplish by heading to Congress and filling the seat long held by Congressman John Lewis? So each generation, Roland, has an obligation to not to move us one step closer to full equality. Congressman Lewis paved the way for us, opened up so many doors. But I know that just getting us back to where we were pre-2013 with Shelby V. Holder is not enough. We need to look at why is it harder for my sister to vote absentee in Alabama than it is for me to vote absentee in Georgia. This should be standardized across the board. Your voting rights should be standard across the board. Why is it some states' votes are being thrown out for one reason or another. So we need to make sure that we are

focusing on voting rights and passing the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, which the Senate still has not acted upon. But we also have to have a national response to this pandemic because it impacts us in so many ways, especially in the black community. It impacts our economy with so many people out of work, leaving the workforce. It affects our education system. My five-year-old son is doing kindergarten in front of a computer screen, and it didn't have to be this way. But we don't have leaders in Washington right now who are getting the job done. And it also infects our health care. We see that Black people are disproportionately affected by this pandemic, and we've got to get this right. So voting rights and a national response to this pandemic,

because that encompasses the economy, our education and our health care. Obviously, a lot of people don't really, really understand members of Congress do. And so specifically for your district, what do you want to be able to do to improve what's happening there? So, Roland, number one, I have requested to be on the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee because on that committee, I have the busiest airport in the world. That airport is the greatest generator of Black wealth in the Southeast. We need to make sure that our airport is strong. We need to make sure that we have the resources that we need to amplify what we're doing here on the ground. and we need to make sure that we build upon that so that the economic engine of the Southeast continues to thrive. We also need to be looking at infrastructure needs, because I had a bill in

the state legislature that would make lead testing of water in schools a requirement, and the Republicans would not even give me a hearing on that bill. And being on transportation and infrastructure will give me the ability to dig deep into some of those issues, systemic issues that continue to impact our communities. I represent in the state Senate right now, Vine City, where we know that people have been going door to door testing their water and their soil for lead, but we couldn't get anything done on the state level. And so I'm excited about getting to Congress so that I can do things in my district, bring back money for my district, and make sure that we continue to be the economic engine of the Southeast.

All right, then. Congresswoman-elect Nakima Williams, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Good luck. And we will, of course, we'll be in Georgia. Our goal is to spend lots of time there after Thanksgiving all the way through January 5th, bringing stories back to our folks and covering what's happening for Black folks there in Georgia. I appreciate it, Roland. Thank you. Thanks a lot. All right, folks, now I want to bring in my panel here, Kelly Bethea, communications strategist, Joseph Williams,

editor of U.S. News & World Report, Michaelael brown former vice chair dnc finance committee all eyes are indeed on georgia joseph runoff dates is this year the election will be january 5th as i said voters have until december 7th to register to vote in-person voting will be starting on december 14th there's only one word turnout and that is uh supporters of Ossoff and Warnock are going to have to do every single thing they can, every single thing they can to push people to get them to turn out. They cannot rest on their laurels and hope they turn out. It has to be a turn. It has to be a turnout engine. Yeah, that's absolutely right. I mean, you look at the results from the

presidential election and the turnout is there. The votes are there. And doing her massive job in getting the vote turnout, Stacey Abrams has even said that they may have left some votes on the table, some people who got registered, some people who didn't turn out, and some people who weren't registered or haven't been registered just yet. So she is suggesting that this is just the tip of the iceberg and turnout they know is everything because the Republicans are not going to take this for granted. As a matter of fact, there's a lot of speculation that one of the reasons why Trump is doing what he's doing and staying in office and refusing to concede and fighting all these ridiculous lawsuits in court is to keep the base turned up,

to keep them engaged so that they will turn out. So there's no vote that can be left on the sidelines. Nothing can be taken for granted. Turnout is the name of the game. That's the bottom line. Well, the Secretary of State of Georgia said that 24,000 people, Michael, voted in the GOP primary, did not vote in the general. Republicans are saying, man, if Donald Trump had not complained about absentee balloting, he actually, he may have won Georgia if those folks had actually voted. Well, maybe. And before I answer the question, I want to thank you for wearing your sweater. Today is Omega Psi Phi Founders Day.

And thank you for representing. I know you're not going to disrespect my fraternity, but thank you very much. Alpha's more than happy to see the folks that we birthed. I agree. Ouch. I said you weren't going to be disrespectful when you were disrespectful.

How disrespectful? I'm just stating a fact. Y'all came along five years after the fact. Who was your daddy? See, you should have just went ahead and answered the question and not open that up. But go on right ahead. Folks said previous to me about this turnout election and the statistics. Obviously, folks are going to go to their computers and do all the analytics and try to figure out, well, what district didn't vote?

How many people voted in this district? But the bottom line is the voters that traditionally came out because they hate 45, they have to be just as engaged on January 5th. And that means, yes, it's boots on the ground, knocking on doors, commercials, all the traditional ways. But to really get under the skin of folks, there almost has to also be a very slight and small education process for why these races matter. A lot of folks, obviously, the top of the ticket, everybody realizes the presidency is a big election or even possibly the mayor of their particular city. But for the United States Senate is just as important because it has to do with agenda. It has to do with getting things done. It has to do with getting

the kind of judges you want. And so folks have to understand that this is just as important as what happened on November 3rd as what's going to happen on January 5th. So it's not, yes, knocking on doors and boots on the ground, but also slight education to let folks know how important these races are. Look, the Republicans are trying their best to keep so in seats of discontent, Kelly. Two Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, they voted against certifying the election results. We're going to see more of this. I mean, we're dealing with whiners.

And the bottom line is happening there. In a second, I'm going to talk to Greg Pallast about votes that were tossed out, that also bailed in, which is why we keep trying to explain to people, if you're going to vote by mail, you've got to follow all of the rules so your ballots don't get tossed. Absolutely. But not only are we dealing with a bunch of whiners, we're dealing with a bunch of cheaters and they are blatantly cheating. We see them in action, working very hard to cheat, not even to win, just to cheat somebody else out of it. So it's deplorable, and it's really embarrassing

on behalf of the Republican Party, because why would you want to be associated with people who are that cowardly, you know? But on another note, I just echo the sentiments of the panel here in that we just really need to get out the vote. I live in D.C., but I am more than willing to make some phone calls from here on behalf of Georgians, making sure that everybody knows what they're doing. I encourage everyone watching this to do the same. We do not have to be in the state in order to help the state, especially in the middle of a pandemic. There are plenty of ways to be safe, socially distanced, and make sure that the right people are in office to make sure that this country is running again and able to help Biden with his agenda and making sure that America is

equipped and ready for the next step, especially when it comes to coronavirus and making sure that it's eradicated altogether. But yeah, the Republican Party is just embarrassing at this point. It is really, really embarrassing. And in fact, I'm going to bring in investigator reporter Greg Pallas right now. Greg, I'm looking at this here. Again, Wayne County, Board of Canvassers, deadlocked. And the Republican chair, Monica Palmer, actually said she will be open to certifying the vote, quote, in the communities other than Detroit. To certify everything but Detroit. Gee, what color are the people of Detroit? I don't know. Do you know? Do you have any hints? Do you have any idea the color of their ballots? Maybe bluish?

What do you think? You know, look, we went through this before, and I'm very—by the way, this is no joke, because the Trump campaign's gambit, as I've warned before, is to try to get states not to certify their ballots. Oh, there's so much fraud. There's so much confusion. Mail-in ballots, we can't figure it all out. They may have come from Mars. You heard that from Donnie Jr. And so if they can get states to say we can't certify, oh, it's just too difficult. If you can get Michigan to do that and you get Pennsylvania to do that and maybe Georgia or Arizona with these Republican legislatures,

if they say then Joe Biden doesn't get 260, 270 electoral votes, neither does Trump. But under the 12th Amendment to the Constitution, if those states don't certify, it goes to the House. It goes to the House of Representatives, not Pelosi. She doesn't pick the president out of her sorting hat. It's one state, one vote. South Carolina and South Dakota get the same vote as New York and California. And the Republicans control at least 26 delegations. So that is the Hail Mary pass. That's their last desperate attempt to thwart the voters. I'm very concerned. So let's talk about your contention that John Ossoff won? Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm a statistician. I've been working now in Georgia for seven years, starting in 14, when I first got Stacey Abrams on national TV for the first time. I've been looking at how they're handling their voter rolls and the count

of the mail-in ballots. So first of all, the ACLU and Black Voters Matter issued my report that, are you ready? 198,000 Georgians were illegally removed from the voter rolls in the two years before the election. 198,000. And that included, as some people have seen my little film put out by Leonardo DiCaprio, it's Martin Luther King's 92-year-old cousin. We've got broadcaster Raheem Shabazz, Ashley Jones, all these voters of color who I was down at the polling stations were thrown out of the polling stations saying you can't vote. You've lost your registration. 198,000. That's huge. And if they'd been allowed to vote, it would be all over. But there's another steal that I'm looking at.

And Kelly's correct about they're cheaters, which is the non-count of mail-in ballots. Now, we've warned about this. MIT Caltech said that even before this election, 22 percent of mail-in ballots never get counted. People don't get their ballots on time so they can't return them. I had a Georgia voter just send me a note saying, I mailed my ballot 10 days in advance. They say they didn't receive it till after the election. I lost my vote. But the other is that there's all kinds of cockamamie reasons to disqualify mail-in ballots, absentee ballots. You didn't have the internal ballot. You have to have two envelopes. A lot of people forget to put in that second envelope or it got torn. They didn't put it in. That's called a naked ballot. You lose your vote. Your signature didn't match your registration

signature. Now, in America, we had 141,000 people not have their votes counted. Now, those weren't stolen ballots that were forged. We don't have hundreds of thousands of people being arrested for forgery. They're just using this as an excuse. Non-experts, boogaloo boys, Republican operatives are saying, I don't like that signature, and those ballots are being tossed. So I'm trying to check with Georgia. Now, normally, this stuff, Roland, is very public. You're supposed to know how many mail-in ballots there are, how many were counted, how many were not counted, why they're disqualified. They have to report this to the federal government. However, I'm not getting any responses out of Georgia that you're supposed to have. So I did get the total

from Gwinnett County, which is one of the big counties that make up Atlanta. And I found out, are you ready? 30% of the mail-in ballots were disqualified, rejected. 30 percent? 30 percent. Now, I have to say, that's one county out of over 150 counties in Georgia. It's one of the biggest. We're having trouble getting the numbers from the other counties. Now, Gwinnett's always had problems with mail-in voting, so that might be a high number. But if it's even 10 percent or 20 percent, and remember that overwhelmingly mail-in ballots were Democratic because the Democratic Party pushed the mail-in ballots. Republicans told their voters, don't vote by mail. And we know from the counts in many, many states

in, for example, in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, we know those mail-in ballots are just crushingly Biden ballots, which would also mean in Georgia, Ossoff and Warnock ballots. Now, because Reverend Warnock was in a three-way race, there's no way he could avoid a runoff in the so-called jungle primary. However, John Ossoff was just that close to being over the top, just a smidge from walking away with the election without a need of a runoff. And I, you know, the numbers, I'm a statistician, between the purge voters and the votes rejected in the mail, I don't see how Ossoff, if you count the ballots that were thrown out, if they were reviewed, I think you would find an Ossoff victory. So what must we do to walk people through to get them to do what's necessary so they don't have their ballots tossed out? Okay, number one, check your registration. Now, if you showed up and you voted, but they gave you a provisional ballot, that means you are not registered.

You've got to register by December 7th. Go to Secretary of State's website, register online. Don't go to an office and register on a piece of paper. Register online. And do it right away, because in Georgia, they have to, quote, verify your signature and registration, which is crazy. Most states don't do that before you register, but Georgia does. So you got to do it now. That's one. December 7th is the deadline,

but I would check it now. The other, if you didn't vote and you're not sure, you think you've been registered. I just told you about, I've said, you know, Martin Luther King's 92-year-old cousin was thrown off the voter rolls. She was attempting, when I was there, I watched this, attempting to vote for her 50th year in Atlanta. And they said, you're no longer registered here. So please check if you're among the 198,000 who've been purged. You don't know it. I mean, they claim they send most, not everyone,

but they said they sent out postcards to most people. You don't see it. It's junk mail. So you don't know if you're still registered unless you absolutely had your ballot accepted. And you have to be very careful about that. If you were sent a provisional ballot or if you don't know if you didn't vote in the general election, you better register, re-register right now. If you move down the street, the law says if you move within your county in Georgia, you don't have to re-register. But if you don't re-register, chances are they're going to block you.

It doesn't matter what's fair or what's right or what's the law. It's Georgia. Law doesn't – we have a National Voter Registration Act, a national law. It seems to bounce off the Georgia borders. And that's – I'm very concerned because now you have the right wing, you have the Trumpites and Lindsey Graham saying, oh, the secretary of state of Georgia allowed all these illegal ballots. Well, that's everyone knows that's nonsense. They can't show us a single, not one single bad ballot. But what we're missing here is that that same secretary of state of Georgia, Raffensperger, Perger's his name, really,

he's blocked legal voters from voting. And his rules have stopped legal votes from being counted. So no, there's no fraud by voters, but there's fraud upon the voters, especially voters of color. It's overwhelming. When I was down in Georgia, every voter that was blocked from the voter rolls was a voter of color. Well, Greg, we're going to stay on top of this, constantly reminding people what must be done there in Georgia to make sure it doesn't happen again in this all-important critical runoff of these two races that will take place on January 5th. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. See you at gregpalace.com to check your registration. All right. Thank you, sir. Keep it up. All right, folks. You are seeing so, so much attention again on this race.

And one of the things that Raphael Warnock is doing is beating back a lot of the attack cast by Kelly Loeffler. But also, again, speaking to voters there of faith. He, of course, is the senior pastor at Ebenezer Baptist Church. Here's a video that they put together that actually speaks to, play it here, my iPad, folks, not that one. Play it here. This is, again, something they put together here. I want you all to check this out.

It didn't matter what day of the week it was. Come 6 a.m., my dad would come through that door and say, put your shoes on, son. Get ready. If I asked why, he'd say, because there's something for you to do. I don't know exactly what it is yet, but be ready. I'm Reverend Raphael Warnock, and I've spent my entire life trying to be ready. I grew up right here in the Caton Homes housing projects of Savannah, Georgia. I had 11 sisters and brothers. We were short on money, but long on love and faith. Our parents taught us the value of hard work. Dad was a veteran,

a small businessman, and a preacher. He spent most days picking up old junk cars that others had thrown away and hauling them to the local steel yard. He saw their value. And then Sunday morning, he preached to people who themselves felt discarded. He saw value in them too. Mom grew up in Waycross, Georgia, where she spent her summers picking cotton and tobacco. But she told us that we could do anything that we put our minds to. And so with the love of my parents and the encouragement of my community, I went to Morehouse College on a full faith scholarship. I didn't know how I would pay for it, but I graduated college, earned a PhD degree, and 14 years ago, the kid who grew up in the projects was called to Martin Luther King Jr.'s pulpit. I became the senior

pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church. Change still has a chance in the church that changed America. He's senior pastor of one of the most prominent churches in America. Raphael Warnock not only preaches the gospel, but uses it as a platform for change. Dr. King called it the drum major instinct, the urge to lead. Warnock has it and a sense for change. Dr. King called it the drum major instinct, the urge to lead. Warnock has it and a sense of his place in this place. Somebody asked why a pastor thinks he should serve in the Senate. Well, I've committed my whole life to service

and helping people realize their highest potential. I've always thought that my impact doesn't stop at the church door. That's actually where it starts. And I love this country. And I believe that what makes America so great that my impact doesn't stop at the church door. That's actually where it starts. And I love this country. And I believe that what makes America so great is that we've always had a path to make it greater.

Greater for people like the ones I've counseled at my church and others like them across this state. Like my father used to tell me every morning, whatever it is, be ready. I think Georgia is ready. Ready to stand up for the family who's tried to do everything right. When they receive one bad medical diagnosis,

they realize that the cost of being sick is too much. Ready to fight for the dignity of workers who have paid too little and pushed aside as government works for Wall Street corporations. Ready because I realize that a kid who grows up in the projects today and struggling families across Georgia have it harder now than I did back then. I'm Reverend Raphael Warnock, and I'm ready. I'm ready to be your senator. So you see that ad right there, Michael, and the Republicans, they're going Marxist, socialist.

Oh, my God. Do not elect this crazy deranged man. It's interesting because I saw a different kind of commercial. that has the qualifications, has the clearly understanding about what service is all about, especially after the last four years, where the person at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue has no idea what public service means. I see a person that's committed to helping people, and he's using God to help him find his pathway. And I think that is exactly what is needed. So I disagree with those folks on the right. They claim whatever they claim, whatever labels and tags they want to put on them.

They're going to do the best they can to distract them, to distract the voters. And hopefully the Reverend will keep strong. And as Kelly mentioned, I live in D.C. as well. And whatever I can do to help in the state of Georgia, I will be there to help. The book author, as well as filmmaker, Don Winslow, has been using his own money to put together various ads supporting Democratic candidates. He put this one together here featuring actor Jeff Bridges, speaking to, again, what needs to happen in Georgia. I want you to watch this and then we'll come back and talk about it.

We are all Americans. We rise or we fall together. This is a critical moment in the history of our country. So many people are depending on us. They want us to forget they're still trying to take away our health care in the middle of a pandemic. Let me breathe. I'm running so that ordinary people can have a path of prosperity. Let me be who I want to be, where I want to be. Let me be free.

Give me your tire. I am tired. Give me your pull. I am tired. Give me your pole. But I am strong. Give me your hand. I'll be here. And I will guide you to the shore. You have two extraordinary candidates.

I will rise up. And John and the Reverend. I will rejoice. Who deserve your vote? I'm America. And let's face it, you've also got two senators who badly need to be replaced. Oh, yes. Give me my freedom.

Give me my freedom. Give me my freedom. And I will rejoice. This has to be a movement-style, bottom-up, grassroots turnout effort unlike anything we've ever seen in our history. May we rise to the challenge of this renewed reckoning around race and push back hard against the forces of bigotry. All I ask of you.

All I ask of you All I ask of you All I ask of you All I ask of you That's a hell of an ad right there, Kelly. It's very moving. Incredibly emotional because it's right. America really does need Georgia. And it has since Georgia has been a state even beforehand.

So the fact that we are pushing and really demanding change nationwide. And it all falls, it all comes down to Georgia, right? Like the saying in the song goes, Georgia is on everybody's mind right now. So when it comes to these two men who are running for Senate, I personally do not understand why the two Republicans are even being considered, especially during times as this where they were found to literally be investing money into that that is not in the interest of their own constituents. They were padding their pockets and baking on their pockets being filled while their constituents die. And when Ossoff and Perdue were in that debate,

Perdue did not have an answer because there's no reputable answer to be had. There's nothing that is excusable for such behavior. So when we see these ads and we see the records of these two senators and then we see the reputation being laid out between Ossoff and Warnock. It's a really easy choice for me, if I were Georgian, to to vote for the two Democratic senators because their entire platform, their entire career path has been dedicated to the service of the state and the service of their respective jurisdiction. We don't have that kind of example out of the Republican side. So for for it's an easy choice, in my opinion, to vote for the Democratic side of things. And it's also an easy choice for people who are outside of Georgia to do whatever they can possible to make sure that

these two men get into the Senate seat so we can get things done in the Senate and for America at large. You spoke of the insider trading allegations against Perdue and Loeffler. The folks at Really American put together this ad highlighting that very thing. Watch this. Before we all knew how dangerous COVID would be, Georgia Senators David Perdue and Kelly Leffler got a secret briefing on it. But instead of helping Georgia prepare, the millionaire Republicans made themselves even richer. On the same day of the Senate briefing, Perdue bought stock in a personal protective equipment company. Leffler sold millions of dollars in stock the same day of the briefing, then bought stock in a company that makes work-from-home software.

Financial disclosure forms show that Loeffler sold up to $3.1 million in stock over three weeks after being privately briefed in the Senate on coronavirus. Records show that Purdue did purchase stock in Pfizer, a pharmaceutical company now developing a coronavirus vaccine. Purdue, who is worth almost $16 million, and Loeffler, who has more than $500 million, were playing the stock market on inside information instead of helping Georgians. They shouldn't be in the Senate. They should be in prison. Vote them out on January 5th Joseph in that debate as Kelly said David Perdue had no answer and of course it's no shock he's already decided he is not going to debate John Ossoff again

first of all Kelly Leffler has accepted the invitation from the Atlanta Press Club to debate Raphael Warnock on December 6th. Well, it's interesting that she's stepping up where Perdue has not. And I think that's because Kelly Loeffler has got a lot more to lose than Perdue does. She is facing basically a tribunal, a test of the new South, right? We've been hearing about it for decades, about whether or not the Southern wall, like the Great Wall of the South, is ready to crack, and Georgia looks like it's about ready to do that. I mean, it's clearly the result of the presidential election

indicates almost as much. And that's the other thing that we have going on here, is that there are a lot of people in Georgia who are very excited about this race. And those people aren't the Republicans, mainly because you get a lot of meddling from Washington trying to influence the outcome of the election. And that's not really a strategy that's going to win over many people in the public. And also, there are many analytics that say Georgia and its runoff system, what happens is the Republican vote tends to fall off a cliff during most runoffs,

especially when you have a Republican in the White House. And after the election, the motivation for Republican voters kind of trails away. But from all I've been hearing and all I've been seeing on some of the stuff that I've been reporting on, it's still quite high for Democrats in Georgia. Stacey Abrams is telling people to keep the pedal to the metal. And those ads pretty much speak to the nature of South as an agent for change. And I'm thinking of Maynard Jackson. I'm thinking of some other people who came out of the South, African-American politicians who came out of the South, when they weren't expected to indicate that white people are ready and willing to vote for a man of color or a woman of color, for that matter, to send them to Congress and Washington to represent their interests, particularly against two Republicans who appear to be corrupt.

Folks, we're going to now, of course, we're looking at, again, all the data and all the data points. On the National Coalition of Black Civic Participation, they conducted a national exit poll that looked at, among other things, the key issues of importance to black voters in the 2020 election. Here are some of the results. Seventy four percent of the respondents said the number one issue they want President-elect Joe Biden to address is a plan to reduce structural racism. Tied for number two at 61.8% and 63.3% are policing and criminal justice reform and a plan to eradicate COVID-19. The third priority at 58.7% is protecting services like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Overall, those priorities were the same for women, men, Gen Z, and millennials.

Joining us right now is Melanie Campbell, Executive Director of the NCEO of the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation. Melanie, glad to have you back on Roller Martin Unfiltered. Any surprises for you in this exit polling data? No. I will say one. One surprise. I'd expect that there to be some variation between black women and black men in the generations.

But actually, for all generations, it was pretty much close to the same thing. It was maybe a one, one and a half percent, nothing of any significance. So that was a little surprising, quite frankly. But what we were excited about is that in this poll, that we had about a third of the respondents were Black men. And so it was really helpful to be able to see that, you know, issues are not what may divide some of our decisions about who we vote for, and that these issues of life or death, economic concerns as well, when you saw the information around even lowering taxes and things like that, are pretty much the same. So, of course, the messages have to be nuanced because none of us are monoliths.

But it was good to see that we were really close around the issues of concern. And Georgia, by the way, had a significant oversampling in Georgia and Michigan and Pennsylvania in that poll. So. So. So breakdown number one, though. How do they racism? OK. OK. That's like very broad. So were folks specific in terms of what specifically were they looking for Biden Harris to do? No, we didn't have the ability to go lower than giving them very variations of issues. But they had they had at least 10 issues to decide to how they wanted to rate. And those and what you see out of that comes one, two, and three. And no matter how we ask the question, the number one issue was a plan to eradicate structural racism.

When you ask the question about what you want the president, whoever gets elected as president of the United States, would do. When you ask the question about how is this impacting you personally, you and your family, racism still arises, hate crimes. The number one issue when it comes to black, the black community. And so when we look at that data, and then we look at the data we released in September with the Essence poll. And the other thing, Roland, is this poll, because we were, many of the precincts that we work in, our folks on the ground working, are in low performing areas, more-income areas. This poll had more people who had made $25,000 or less a year. The Essence poll is higher. It comes from Black

women who are middle-income primarily who respond. So it gave us—and we're going to go deeper in the data. I'm working with Dr. Elsie Scott with the Ron Walters Leadership Policy Center, Dr. Avis Jones-Weaver, and Holly Holliday and other sisters who are part of our research team to go even deeper in each of these states, not just for what's happening in the

immediate, but for the long haul, and really go a little deeper to find out more. So we're going to likely do some kind of poll on January 5th in Georgia, for example, where we may be able to go a little deeper to find out more. So we're going to likely do some kind of poll on January 5th in Georgia, for example, where we may be able to go a little deeper with that poll, because we've already done the top line, to see what else we can find out. One of the things that, the reason I ask that, because I think the problem is, if we don't be as specific as possible, frankly, folks can say, well, it didn't happen.

Well, I mean, addressing systemic racism is kind of broad. And so I think it's important to drill down further on that particular point. Yeah, I think and I agree with, but I also and I'll say and not but, but and also because of what we've been addressing, we know that there's some when you talk about criminal justice and policing reform, that's an issue around that's also impacted by systemic racism. You're talking about COVID-19. There's an element of that. We know that African-Americans and black and brown folks are more impacted when it comes to the issue around higher mortality rates. If you talk about any kind of major issues,

economic issues, there's a level of that. One of the things that we are looking at when we use this data is also to look at how we engage the next administration that we helped elect in President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Harris to look at government structure

on how we are going to address some of these things when it comes to contracting, you know, when it comes to contracting, how we look at some of these things. So it's not some silo issue. And I haven't had a chance to really go deep in looking at all of the transition things, but we're looking at all of that to see what ways we can make folks see that their vote didn't matter faster than, yeah, the broader issue of structural racism. But there are elements of issues that you can address that are also tied to racial injustice in this country. All right, then.

Melanie Campbell, always a pleasure. We certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. All right. Thank you. All right, folks. Got to go always a pleasure. We certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. All right. Thank you. All right, folks, got to go to a break. We come back. We'll talk about coronavirus.

We'll also chat with the president of Morris Brown College. What is next for them with this news of them getting accreditation? All of that on Boulevard and Unfiltered. Back in a moment. And we've had a lot of pain in this country. People were disappointed and they, and they were saying, no, it's not going to matter. What I didn't like is when young people said it.

And I can understand if you've had a really difficult life and you're imagining the whole system's corrupted and why would it work for me? But there were people just lazy, and they were just regurgitating the things that they had heard on a radio or in the barbershop or something that somebody had told them. They hadn't thought about it

it's you know one of the reasons why i think democracy is in danger is because people don't know how to think so you can tell them anything trump can show up and say anything and they can just go oh yeah you know he just called you stupid did you hear that oh but he's for us. Really? Senator in particular irks me. A Senator Kelly Loeffler, not elected, but appointed just a couple months ago. Records show Loeffler and her husband, whose company owns the U.S. Stock Exchange, sold stock valued between $1.3 and $3.1 million. Kelly Loeffler bought and sold stock shortly after a classified briefing on the virus. They knew the market was gonna

tank and they sold based on that inside information. Some of the holdings she shed were in energy, automotive, retail and airlines. Look it's not just what she sold but it's actually what she bought. She bought things like Amazon, Citrix, Systems, company that obviously was to do well during a shutdown, while still reassuring citizens that the U.S. was prepared. We have Americans across the country who have seen their 401ks plummet. Were you trading on inside information about what was coming? Folks, this woman is knee-deep in the swamp, and she just got there.

I'm John Ossoff, and the path to recovery is clear. First, we listen to medical experts to control this virus. Then we shore up our economy with stronger support for small businesses and tax relief for working families. And it's time for a historic infrastructure plan to get people back to work and invest in our future. We need leaders who bring us together to get this done. And that's why I approve this message. 53 million white women who voted for Trump in the last presidential election were yielding to those dark forces that are invisible, but are visible if we want to make them visible. And so our movement sought to make those forces visible

so that we could see them and then we could dissolve them. We could fight back, we could resist, we could create an alternative vision of what we can become. Folks, Morris Brown College recently announced that the school's accreditation application with the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools has been approved. This is a major step toward receiving full accreditation since having it revoked by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools in 2002 due to debt and financial mismanagement. Joining me now with more is Dr. Kevin James. He's the president of Morris Brown College.

Doc, how are you doing? I'm doing just fine. How about yourself? Doing great. So walk us through this in terms of so getting this, does it mean that you are accredited or does it mean that you still have to go through the other association to get full accreditation oh this is just the beginning uh roland we submitted our accreditation application in june of this year and we just received approval last week that the application has been approved the next step was for us to submit our self-study

which basically is us literally writing a book on ourselves regarding how we met all of the IER requirements, which is a synonym for what they deem as quality. Now that we've submitted all of these things, the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools, their representatives will be coming down here in January, basically to confirm everything that we said that we are, to basically verify that we're an institution of quality. And once that is completed, we anticipate going before their board in April of 2021 for their consideration of candidacy. Once we're eligible for candidacy, we would then be eligible for federal financial aid, which is the big deal for students, being able to get student loans to be able to attend Morris Brown. This is historic work. No HBCU has ever come back 20 years after losing its accreditation. And so this is historic work. And we're just so excited here at Morris Brown.

What I mean, obviously, there obviously there were all kinds of drama, debt, financial issues that led to being pulled. What is your position now? And that is also, Morris Brown never shut down, but what is the condition of buildings? How many students do you think you'll be able to service? What type of majors, things along those lines? Sure. Very good. Well, so during bankruptcy, we lost a large portion of our land. Currently, we have about six, seven acres left, three buildings. One building is operational. We have programs under three umbrellas, business, psychology, and music. And so we anticipate being able to offer these degree programs. As we reacquire land and the like,

online learning will be critically important to our restoration. So we anticipate having phenomenal online programs. But we still will be a historically Black college and be a cultural historically Black college here in Atlanta. So regarding our financial position, the institution is in a much better place. We worked with the AME Church. We were founded by the AME Church for them to forgive the debt that we owed them. We owed them about $4.2 million. And so this administration worked with the African Methodist Episcopal Church and convinced them to forgive that debt. And so technically the institution is basically

debt free now, and we're in a much better financial position as we move the institution forward. How are you going to compete though? I mean, you're there, I mean, you're already, you're there in Atlanta. You, of course you have, you got Morehouse, you got Spelman, you got Clark, Atlanta, but in addition to that, you're also dealing with Georgia State University that has a significant black student population as well. And so in a competitive environment, you talked about, you say, three buildings, one operational. And so, you know, how are you going to position, what is going to be your story, your narrative to make someone want to come to

Morris Brown after not having his accreditation over the last 18 years? Yes. Well, quite frankly, our narrative is going to be the outputs that we have. We're going to have phenomenal faculty. We already have phenomenal faculty. We're going to increase our faculty presence. We're going to build upon our existing academic programs. You know, the good thing about Morris Brown is we've been able to go through what I call the hard reset. And through this reset, the institution is basically able to rewrite its own story.

Regarding being competitive, I'm not trying to compete with my brother and sister institutions here in Atlanta, but we want to just be an addition to the AUC Center. We're going to have phenomenal academic programs. We've already rewritten some of our programs, such as hospitality and management. We've started Georgia's first esports performance degree program, which is very competitive. And so we intend on being a top HBCU here. And we're going to be able to compete through the academic story, the academic programs and offerings and the students culture and services that we're going to be able to offer.

All right. Dr. Kevin James, president of Morehouse College. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you, sir. All right. Thank you very much. I want to go to my panel here, and that is this year. Joseph, with this Biden-Harris administration coming in, the reality is for HBCUs, like many institutions, dealing with what's happening in this COVID world, one of the areas that people are being forced to accelerate in many ways, Dr. Greg Carr has talked about this here, that Howard had to really accelerate when it came to online learning. I mean, to me, what coronavirus, what this moment has done, I think it has caused a massive, a massive review of how businesses, corporations, small businesses,

government, how we work. And I'm telling you, I don't think we're going to be remotely the same once we move out of this international pandemic. I think that's accurate. I mean, I was on a panel today where we were talking about education, and there's been a seismic shift. Not a lot of these things that we're doing right now are going to stay the way we're doing them. We're probably not going to go back to an exclusive classroom-only model. And here in D.C., everywhere you look, you see advertisements for Penn State, for Wesleyan College, for Temple College, online universities, where you can get your advanced degree from the comfort of your own home. And now that's a reality for many undergraduates. So certainly for Morris

Brown to offer an esports degree, that kind of opened my eyes a little bit. And I think that's a nod towards the future. But a lot of HBCUs are kind of lagging behind in that area. One would hope that with Kamala Harris in the White House, she'd be a very fierce advocate for HBCUs. You also have Dr. Jill Biden, a community college professor, that between the two of them, they would recognize the fact that education is shifting. The landscape is not going to look the same as it did before pandemic. And we certainly don't know exactly what the future is. But you have two people who have very, you know, Vice President-elect Harris, who has HBCUs near and dear to her heart and campaigned and was proud of her HBCU lineage, and Dr. Harris, who knows that education at a traditional PWI or at a four-year school isn't for everyone, you think that those two might be able to team up and either move the president or whoever you might name as the education secretary to try to look at these

programs, fund some money, find some money. During the conversation with the president, Morris Brown, I'm constantly reminded in my head that HBCUs have a fraction of the endowments of even the smallest PWI. So they're going to need money. They're going to need targeted plans. They're going to need a lot of help in Washington if they're to make that transition to the 21st century. Bottom line here, Kelly, that's what this really is all about. And I think if you're an HBCU president, you're an administrator, you really right now are thinking not in terms of really the next six months, but really what is 2021 going to look like, 2022? And I think that, I just don't think that we're going to be returning back to this normal, and this really going to be the case in education. I don't think that we're going to return to what used to be normal either, but that's okay. Again, like Joseph was saying, we just need to adapt and move forward.

And that look what that looks like on the federal end is is investment. It looks like an active investment into this sector of education. I'm a proud HBCU grad. I went to Bowie State University. And even in the time that I was there, obviously this was before COVID, there were a lot of changes on that campus that were made possible just by funding alone, just by the state itself paying attention and seeing that we are actually producing some of the best and the brightest in the country and investing in us. And we were also part of the lawsuit, HBCU lawsuit for Maryland, making sure that the state is held accountable for the wrongs committed against us

through de jure segregation and literally taking our programs away. And Maryland has four HBCUs in the entire state, but we are no different from the HBCUs across the country in that we are no different from the HBCUs across the country in that we are typically overlooked and taken for granted as just another school, not realizing that we produce more than half of all professional job in the country. We produce the most doctors, the most lawyers, the most teachers, the most nurses. Just pick something out there that is looked at as a lucrative career field. And HBCUs, when it comes to Black production of these professionals, HBCUs are at the top of that list when it comes to who is actually

graduating those black students. So we definitely need to invent. But I think, Michael, what you're going to be contending with, again, is folks are going to have to understand, again, this notion of a whole different world. And I think that we're really going to have

to examine that. Then what does it look like? And look, right now, this whole conversation about student debt, that's also going to be a deal because here's the piece. Why in the hell am I paying the amount of money I'm paying for a degree at a university and I'm getting it online?

Yeah, I mean, you know, I've certainly nothing wonderful to say after what the panelists just said. But, you know, as a my mom was a proud Fisk University grad and my my children are products of FAMU in Florida. And so the HBCU making sure that they have a future and, economics has mostly to do with that future. And John is right relative to, you know, obviously, elections have consequences. And now that Dr. Biden and Vice President-elect Harris are going to hopefully form a very positive HBCU outreach program with finances and resources behind it.

And I'm certainly hoping that my law school professor, Vice President-elect Biden, endorses their plan. But we have to also figure out how HBCUs can also recruit better. And I'm not talking recruit relative to athletes. I'm talking recruits, as Kelly was talking about, the half of the workforce is to continue that to make sure the best and the brightest students choose HBCUs for their education. That's going to be important. And then the second piece is going to have, well, certainly a large piece of it, anything has to be legislative. And maybe approaching the Republican senators

that have HBCUs in their states. And I know they've been very reluctant for heavy funding. They do a little bit just so they can say, hey, I signed on to a bill to contribute to HBCUs. But really, if you're going to do a major transformation, you really need some of these Republican senators. Now, obviously, whether it what happens on January 5th relative to the Georgia runoff, but we need to make sure that it's a bipartisan effort to protect HBCUs. Speaking of coronavirus today, folks, there are a total of 11,136,253 cases of COVID-19

in the U.S. 246,232 people have died from this. In fact, Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa, the oldest Republican in the chamber, 87 years old, has announced that he has tested positive for COVID-19. And Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, said yesterday that the Trump administration's refusal to begin a transition of presidential power could not only harm the federal coronavirus response, but might also stall the rollout of potential vaccines. Huh. Friday, there were more than 177,000 new infections, the latest single day peak.

And the thing that's interesting here is that when you talk about the lack of responsibility and I really get a kick out of these Republicans who talk about responsibility, we need personal responsibility when it comes to these masks. Well, this was yesterday on the floor of the United States Senate where Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown, let's just say he had some choice words for the senator from Alaska who was sitting in the speaker's chair. Without objection. President. Senator from Ohio. I'd start by asking the presiding officer to please wear a mask as he speaks and people below him are, I can't tell you what to do, but I know that the behavior. I don't wear a mask when I'm speaking like most senators. Well, I, most senators.

I don't need your instruction from. I know you don't need my instruction, but there clearly isn't much interest in this body in public health. We have a president who hasn't shown up at the coronavirus task force meeting in months. We have a majority leader that

calls us back here to vote on an unqualified nominee and at the same time to vote for judge after judge after judge, exposing all the people who can't say anything. I understand. The people in front of people who can't say anything, I understand, the people in front of you and the presiding officer,

and expose all the staff here, and the majority leader just doesn't seem to care. Mr. President, the American people sent a clear message in this election. They voted for stability. They rejected an administration that has failed them in the middle of a public health crisis and an economic crisis. People want a government that works for them and is on their side. My colleagues in both parties know this. I know some of you feel like you have to humor the outgoing president, continue to make excuses for him, continue to run from the media when they

might ask a question about your opinion on the president. But you know that Joe Biden won, and you won. Most of you won your elections, including the presiding officer, fair and square on the same ballot. You don't have to play along with the tweets and the chaos. He threatened the Republican governor of Ohio today, for instance, because the governor of Ohio, I think he said the term vice president or term president-elect Biden. That offended the president. But you don't have to play along with the tweets and the chaos and the crazy anymore. We need to move on. We need to actually deliver for the people who voted for us and put their

faith in us. The last thing we should be doing is granting Trump one last wish, one more opportunity to salt the earth on his way out. The Federal Reserve is supposed to be a steady, guiding hand making sure our economy actually delivers for the people who make it work. They're supposed to worry about the big picture of the economy so hardworking families don't have to. But Judy Shelton, and most of my colleagues know this, I've talked to many of them, she believes the opposite. You know, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy, Joseph.

I mean, you know, I have to wear a mask, you know, Ted Cruz like, well, you know, sure. Sure. Brown. He's no one's around him in 50 feet. Dude's like, dude, stuff still travels. What the hell is wrong with you? You just had a senator, Chuck Grassley, say test positive. So he's sitting here, let's say he was in the well of the Senate and just talking away and just spewing COVID droplets all throughout the air. Well, it's happened. I mean, it's happened. I think Grassley is maybe the third senator, perhaps the fourth or even fifth, who have been diagnosed positive with COVID. And

Grassley is one of the oldest senators in the chamber, as you said. So his risk is extraordinarily high. I don't understand why masks equal freedom, well, lack of wearing masks equal freedom. And while they suggest tyranny because you're just trying to stay healthy and trying to keep other people healthy, it's remained a mystery and it's probably going to stay that way because it's not going to change anytime soon, I don't think. No, I mean, what you're dealing with, you're really dealing with folks who just, I mean, they don't give a damn, Kelly. They don't care really what's going on. We could talk about these exploding numbers and the orders that are coming down in California and New York State and Michigan and Ohio, whatever their whole deal is like, ah, whatever y'all just go ahead and do what you want to do as if nothing is really going on. And I mean, I was reading earlier today testimony from a testimony today from a nurse who was talking about being in Texas, how she quit because she said, I simply could not take the sheer amount of death in one week.

I have no words and I could not imagine just how overwhelmed and frankly defeated our heroes are in hospitals and clinics and the facilities that actually have to see this death day in and day out. It is beyond traumatic. And that is one of the things that concerned me post-pandemic, frankly, because everybody's talking about, you know, we're almost at a quarter million deaths. Yes, we have 11 million cases in the U.S., yes. But at the same time, what about the people who are taking care of these patients? And what about the people who are literally the last thing that these victims of this disease see? You know, and you're talking about nurses who see 20 deaths a day and they're not in a war zone. They're at home. That's traumatic. That is something on the psyche that's not going to go away anytime soon, if ever. So to take that

and translate it over here to senators who are supposed to be representing these health care workers, who are supposed to be representing these victims, who are supposed to be representing the people who are most affected by this disease, to see them literally on the Senate floor saying, I don't need to wear a mask. I don't need to wear a piece of fabric over my face lest that I catch the disease as well. Right. It is infuriating, not only to me, but to the victims of COVID-19. But they don't care about the victims, Michael. They don't. Bottom line is, there's no sense of responsibility.

They actually, I really do believe in herd immunity. And I think for them, hey, if two to three percent die, yeah, we're good. And they're good for a couple of reasons. Obviously, we're in a different time and clearly this whole cult of the last four years. But folks don't seem to be concerned anymore with, oh, what's your legacy going to be? What will history write about you? Because they know there will be another organization that will put out their history from their perspective and make sure that their legacy is protected. So they don't necessarily care about

what's under their umbrella, both legislatively, who they fought for, who they didn't fight for, not putting up a stimulus package, whatever you want to bring up. And I think that's part of the problem is this cult personality we've had to deal with over the last four years have given people the courage to say, you know what, I don't care. Because if it doesn't impact my base, the folks that I, which it does, by the way, because now that COVID is ravaging red states, because of course, in the early days, it was more, at least according to 45 with blue states, now it's red states that are being ravaged. But he doesn't care. He's clearly checked out. He doesn't care about governing. He doesn't care. Not that he ever has cared about governing or leading. And now we're in the situation we're in. It's going to continue this

way. That's exactly the case, folks. Let's talk about some other news. The FBI released a report yesterday that showed more people were killed in hate crimes last year in America than in any year since 1992 when the FBI first started recording hate killings. Fifty-one people lost their lives to hate crime. That's a 112% increase over the year before. The bulk of the killings happened on August 3rd when a gunman shot and killed 23 people inside a Walmart in El Paso, Texas. A white gunman, a racist gunman.

By 2019, it would have been a record year for deadly hate crimes, even without that massacre. This is, Joseph, a real issue. This whole idea that Donald Trump has tamped down the racial animus, that's a lie. Oh, absolutely. I mean, all you have to do is just look around. I mean, we've got armed people showing up at state capitals, suggesting that they want to burst in and open fire on the state legislature of Michigan, that they want to kidnap the Michigan governor, that it's okay to try to run a campaign bus off the side of a road, and it's okay to proudly display your white nationalism. I saw a story the other day that the leader of the Proud Boys is upset because he wants to start calling himself a Nazi. I mean, there was a time where this was

completely beyond the pale. Now it's been normalized in large part of the behavior and the enabling of the Republican Party, the behavior of their president. They're enabling him to do this and their understanding that this is exactly what their base wants. Well, and I think that's the piece that people are missing here, Kelly. They're missing that what Donald Trump has done is unleashed this idea that you can say whatever you want and do it. And guess what? No one is going to get in trouble for it. In fact, you can thrive. I don't know if it's an unleashing, more so it being a revealing tactic, because it's not like it went away.

It's not like he opened up the floodgate. It was already open. He just allowed, he just opened it a little bit wider, you know. But when it comes to the Proud Boys and all of these groups that are, you know, seemingly coming out the woodwork, I'm not surprised by it at all. It is a shame that we are going back to numbers regarding hate crimes like that we haven't seen basically since the Jim Crow era. It reveals how racist America is. It reveals how far behind we are in the psyche that Black lives really do matter. It reveals the fact that we have a long way to go before we can even contemplate saying that we are a post-racial society. So this isn't surprising to me at all.

It is disappointing to me always. But the fact that we are now entering a new leadership regime in the Biden-Harris administration, hopefully those numbers will go back down. But don't be mistaken that their administration is a reflection of post-racial society or something that will eradicate racism some way. No, these people are still going to be around, and we need to be vigilant in getting them out completely. Joseph, go ahead.

Yeah, I just want to interject really quickly. I mean, those are two very important points. Number one is that, yes, it has always been there, but at least 10 years ago or even eight years ago, people had the good taste to keep it under wraps because the one thing that people hated to be called in public, and ironically, the one thing Trump hates being called is a racist. So people tried to have the good sense to try to not say the quiet parts out loud. Now they absolutely are saying the quiet parts out loud. They're using a bullhorn to say it. And the second point I wanted to make that's more troubling is they are not going away with the election of Joe Biden. As a matter of fact, I think that they're taking their cues from Trump and saying that they're going to resist and they're going to fight to the last person. And Lord, help us with whatever's going to come after that.

But that's why, Michael, I say unleashed. I said that for a reason, because, frankly, folks can't say certain things in the public. Trump's like, what the hell? Yes, you can. They're like, hey, great. I believe that's why we're saying, look, we're going to show a crazy white person segment, white woman. Look, these folks just rolling up on folks, walking them in black people's houses.

Like, who are you? Why are you here? I mean, these things were happening before. Yeah, they're really happening right now. And I think even what you're talking about, what John's talking about is related to also polling.

I know we know the polls were not quite accurate, even though maybe in the end they'll be close. But in the last two cycles, they haven't really been accurate. And because we have people when a pollster comes up to you with a clipboard at a grocery store calls your uh calls your house you know and you have company over folks who are 45 supporters or do not want to tell a pollster that they're supporting that person because they think their friends will think they're racist. So they lie to pollsters. And I don't know how you fix that.

The analytics you can fix, the computer systems you can fix, but I don't know how you fix human nature so people don't lie to a pollster. On the unleashing comment, I think everyone's right. The next four years are going to be resist, just like it was the last four years. Hopefully, the president-elect will figure out a way to be able to bring people together, turn down the heat. Whether he's successful or not, I doubt it, especially if 45 decides to either have his own channel or whatever he decides to do to spew out every conspiracy theory he can with QAnon and the Proud Boys and all these things that he likes to support because they support him.

I don't know what the country will be like over the next four years. Hopefully, President-elect can try to figure out how to bring people together. Well, let's turn our attention to the Breonna Taylor case, where a woman who sat on the grand jury recently came forward and told the Associated Press she believed the investigation into Taylor's death was incomplete and that prosecutors were only interested in giving the officers involved a slap on the wrist. This woman is the third juror who believes she and the other members of the jury weren't given the option to charge the officers who fatally shot Taylor. As we know, former police officer Brett Hankison was charged with three counts of wanton endangerment, which is a low-level felony and carries a one-to-five-year sentence. As for

the other two officers who shot Taylor, the grand jury decided not to charge them at all. The woman says more should have been done, and she doesn't understand why prosecutors didn't consider endangerment charges. We have the video, roll it. Okay. All right, gotcha. So folks, I thought we had the video. That, I mean, the fact that a third juror comes out, Michael, I think speaks volumes.

This district, the Kentucky Attorney General basically operated as the defense attorney. Pure and simple. That's how he operated. He did, and he's been operating that way since some members of the leadership of the GOP have told him if you follow a particular roadmap, you'll be on the national stage. But you need to do things that you may not be comfortable with,

but it'll help your own political career. He's a disaster. He's a disgrace. He's an embarrassment. And that's why, hopefully, this new Justice Department will come in and have an independent evaluation to whether Ms. Taylor's civil rights were violated. And then there can be true accountability. And this district attorney can be kind of, or attorney general, can be pushed to the side and pushed into a corner where he has no say. Because as long as he's involved, he's going to protect the constituency groups that think will help him get to whatever he wants to be, whether it's a governor, whether it's a presidential nominee, a vice presidential nominee, whatever his ambition is, I have no idea what it is.

And that's what he wants to do. That's why he's such a disgrace and that's why he's terrible, except for to that, obviously, cult base I was talking about earlier. Let's talk about a case out of Louisiana. Today we are learning that 37-year-old Janet Irvin was the last person to see 15-year-old Kawan Bobby Charles before his body was found mutilated in a sugar cane field. Irvin has a history of arrests for drugs and burglary and also lost temporary custody of her children after being accused of neglect and domestic violence. Irvin and her 17-year-old son Gavin picked up Bobby from his Baldwin home on October 30th. Bobby's mother reported him missing around 8 p.m. that night.

However, instead of putting out an Amber Alert, the Baldwin Police Department informed her Bobby was probably at a football game. We talked to the attorney yesterday who said he didn't even like football. Fast forward to November 3rd, and Bobby was found dead in a sugar cane field. Officials say the cause of death was by way of drowning. However, many find it suspicious that Bobby appeared to have been mutilated

and had several lacerations on his face when he was found. Police say the lacerations were from aquatic activity. Yet many activists and the Charles family attorney, Ronald Haley, who I spoke with yesterday, believes there's more to this story. At this time, no arrests have been made. I am still confused. I'm still confused on this one kelly how this woman picks him up from the house mama don't know no one knows and like really just that that that's what's crazy to me the narrative that this woman picked him up

and not kidnapped, that's an issue. Language matters in a case like this. This boy was kidnapped, he was murdered, and they drowned him to cover their tracks. That is the narrative that needs to be purported. But that's not what's happening right now. They're trying to basically assuage the public, um, specifically, uh, this white woman, allegedly,

and making it look like she didn't do anything wrong before anything even, um, is even purported to happen, you know, from-from a case perspective. But narratives matter here. This little boy was murdered, and it needs to be investigated as a murder. It doesn't need to be investigated as him being something like a truant or just, you know, a runaway or something like that. He was kidnapped. He was murdered. And the

people responsible need to be held accountable, arrested and jailed. It's simple as that. It is quite the strange story, Joseph, looking at this story. And there's just so much not adding up. Well, none of it adds up except the fact that it happened in Louisiana, quite frankly, in my opinion. And it recalls to me a lot of these local news stories where we see about some white woman who goes missing, some white youngster who goes missing, and it's pull out the stops. We see 24-hour coverage. We see day after day. We see billboards, that sort of thing. But when black youngsters go missing, when black young people go missing, which happens day after day after day, we don't really get that kind of coverage. We don't see that kind of coverage. And people kind of wonder what the Black Lives Matter movement is about. I often say that the Black Lives Matter movement is not a movement per se.

It's an existential argument. We are talking this is just a baseline thing. We deserve to exist. That's just a baseline fact. And when you get cases like these that happen in a backwoods sheriff's department that happen under cover of darkness with white people involved, the mind goes to dark places, and that's because it's happened before. Emmett Till, you name it. This one clearly harkens back to that. So I think that if we had a functional justice department, they'd be on the case. If there was functional law enforcement in Louisiana, they'd be on the case.

We don't have either of those two things as far as I can see. So this young man's death may be a mystery for a lot longer than most of us are comfortable for. Not quite sure how, folks, how about this woman is still walking around free several days after the case, Michael? No, no one does, except for the people in that community that support the way the criminal justice system is applied. They think it's fine. White women get the benefit of the doubt, or white people get the benefit of the doubt, and certainly people of color do not. So, you know, it's, Roland, we've talked about this time and time again, and hopefully when we talk about elections have consequences,

hopefully this will be a very activist Justice Department that will step in when the local municipalities are not doing what they're supposed to do, to treat people fairly, and that the Justice Department will step in and say no. And then hopefully that becomes a deterrent to other criminal justice systems and other municipalities and localities around the country to say, you know what, I do not want the feds in my backyard telling me what to do. So, you know what, officers, act right. Let's not even have the microscope on us. If somebody has their hands up, don't shoot them. If their back is to you, don't shoot them. You know what? Pull out a taser instead of your gun. If there are three of you, tackle the guy. I mean, there's so many other options, but it comes from the top. And until

there's a deterrent, and again, you'll hear me say this over and over again as a former legislator, I know it's tough to go up against the police unions. But until you take qualified immunity off the table, until you make these officers pay for their own legal defense fund, until you mess with their pensions, these are going to continue to happen. Oh, I absolutely agree. I mean, I absolutely agree that that is going to be the case. And that is what, frankly, we're seeing, we're dealing with as well. And so I want to talk about this here. And that is for us as African-Americans, when do we actually take a righteous stand against absolute craziness? Jamal Bryant posted this video the other day, and it was a video that was posted by

Joni Lamb. She is the co-founder of Daystar. And I want you just, I want to pull this up. I'm going to explain something on the back end, but I want you all to see the video first. Go to my iPad, please. The president has every right to look into allegations and to request recounts under the law. This is a very big moment. This is a major fraud in our nation. We want Trump! We want Trump! We want Trump!

We want an honest election. We want an honest count. We can't allow anybody to silence our voters. We can't let that happen to our country. That was a stop-the-steal, a stop-the-steal rally that Joni Lamb, co-founder of Daystar, posted on her page four days ago. Now, what's interesting is that I was one of the folks who went to Joni Lamb's Instagram page to share my disgust with that ad. And I just, the reason I was checking out the Gilgemaul's page because a poor little Joni blocked me on Instagram because I posted some comments along with a bunch of others. They wiped the comments. I went back and posted some more

comments, but they went ahead. So let me say this right here. Here is the co-founder of a Christian television network that airs a significant number of sermons from black preachers. And they, she puts on here this, and she had lots of pray for Trump posts on her page and all this sort of nonsense. And the thing is, Daystar wants to rely on black preachers using the tithes and offerings of black people to pay for their television ministry. And then she puts this nonsense up, a stop the steal rally

in a state Trump beat Biden by 800000 votes. So what so what the hell is Joni Lamb and Daystar saying what was stolen? I'm I'm I'm confused. See, this is the nonsense that you see from these white conservative evangelicals. And see, again, Daystar ain't got no problem with black dollars. They've got no problem with black viewers. But her supporting this nonsense at the election is stolen. I'm telling you right now, if you are the member of a church, if you are the if you are the member of a pastor who is broadcasting on Daystar, you should tell your pastor, pull your program off Daystar.

You should say that your tithes and offerings will not go to people who are so petulant and childish in supporting and backing a tyrant that they would openly lie, lie, and support such nonsense. I don't care who it is. Daystar should get no black money whatsoever, Michael Brown.

None. Penalize Joni Lamb, Marcus Lamb, pull the programming off, and say we're not going to peel your network. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, Roger Stone actually started this whole Stop the Steal campaign four years ago because he thought that Secretary Clinton was going to win the election.

So this was really started four years ago. And clearly it's working out perfectly from his standpoint and 45 standpoint for this campaign. But, you know, again, same thing. You know, black churches have a whole different standard that they have to adhere to relative to any kind of political activity. But when it's a white church, especially these right wing right wing evangelists, they have to say, oh, we can get involved in as much politics as we want. No one's going to put a target on our heads. No one's going to take away our 501c3 status.

But boy, if you're a black church, you even think about mentioning something political in your church. Somebody's going to say, oh, put up the red flag. Wait a minute. They need to have their 501c3 status revoked. So the standards are different. These people think they can do whatever they want. Again, hopefully we'll see an active Justice Department. No one's suggesting that anyone should go to jail or be convicted of a crime yet, but send them a letter. Send an agent down to talk to them and say, look, you're skirting the laws. You're right on the line. Maybe you should take a step back. But until those kind of things happen, these people are going to continue to act any way they want as long as they're. Look, I don't care who you are.

I dare say, Kelly, don't run your conferences on Daystar. Don't have your sermons on Daystar. Don't appear on Daystar. It is abundantly clear that Daystar does not care about all Christians. What Joni Lamb and Marcus Lamb care about are their white conservative evangelicals. And fine, if you want to sit here and support Trump on your Instagram page, fine. But to sit here and promote a Stop the Steal rally? Oh, hell no.

Hell no. And I'm telling you right now, no black pastor should be airing their sermons or any programs on Daystar, Kelly. None. I mean, I agree with you there. Obviously, the challenge is where else would they air it? No, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, multiple religious networks. Secondly, we're now living in the digital world. You don't even need Daystar. Hell, you can go right to. So any pastor using that excuse, that's already gone. Oh, well, then there you go. No challenge then, right? But again, when you said that they don't care about certain Christians, I would argue to say that they don't care about Christians at all. I would argue that they are not really following the teachings of Christ himself, because Christ would not be supporting a tyrant. Christ would not be supporting people who literally hate others

and make it their duty to hate others and make sure that we know that they hate us. Christ was a marginalized person of color who was a target of the government at large. He would not be in support of this president. He would not be in support of anybody president. He would not be in support of anybody who would support this president. So for you to say that you're Christian, for you to say that you follow the teachings of Christ and that you love your neighbor as yourself, and yet you

still ascribe to this cult-like doctrine that is Trump and white evangelicalism and Eurocentric Christianity as a whole, I've been saying this a lot on the show, but the cognitive dissonance is right there. You can't serve two masters, right? Because that is a master in and of itself. And you cannot

serve that kind of government. You cannot serve that kind of ideology and still consider yourself Christian. Not anymore, anyway. Like, you shouldn't have in the first place, but you definitely can't do it now in 2020. The thing here, Joseph, is that, again, the way Daystar makes their money is pastors pay for the programming on Daystar. And so they are paying to have their sermons or their programs run on Daystar. And so they are, so they are paying to have their sermons or their programs run on Daystar. And it's like, fine, Joni Lamb, if that's how y'all want to roll,

no problem. Go right ahead. You're not getting our money. And I'm telling you every single black preacher who has, who is on Daystar should pull their programming immediately and say, you are not going to get any of our money. No way. Well, and if there are pastors who are about history, you know, the, the three words that come to mind for me are Montgomery bus boycott. You know, you aren't treated fairly. You're, you're, you're being exposed to racist behavior and racist dialogues. I mean, pull that. Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of other ways to make your money,

plenty of other ways to get your message out if it's more about the message than the money. And why should you support someone who has these sorts of ideas and attitudes? So the answer is clear. The question is, do the pastors have enough fortitude and enough sense of history to take collective action here? And only time will tell.

Well, look, only time will tell. But the bottom line is here. This is the moment how we use our economic power. There are other options. They're not the only option. And so fine, Joni. That's how you want to roll. Cool.

Black dollars don't have to be spent on Daystar paying for paying for your hair and everything else like that. So here's the deal. Here's what I want my audience to do. I want y'all if y'all look at Daystar, I want y'all. So people can watch different times. I want y'all look at Daystar or put their programming guide. In fact, I'm a sit here. Matter of fact, let's see what I got over here. I got my Roku. Let's see right now. Because, see, I was looking for the guide on their website.

Yeah, y'all know I don't play this. I was looking for the guide on their website and did not see the guide. So I want to know. So y'all tell me if y'all look at day star, I want y'all to tell me who is on what black pastors are on day star. And then what we will do is we will call them personally. We will call them directly. And so, uh so easiest thing for y'all to do is just shoot an email, real simple, and just send us an email, info at RolandSMartin.com. Send us an email.

And, yeah, we want to see exactly who they have on their network to let them know whether or not they endorse that particular nonsense. And it's cool. Here's the deal. Daystar, y'all can do whatever you want to. You ain't getting black dollars. Not going to happen. All right.

Y'all know what time it is. Oh, no. I'm white. I got you, girl. Illegally selling water without a permit. On my property. Whoa! Hey!

You don't live here. I'm uncomfortable. Oh, man, y'all. I'm telling you, there's a lot of these crazy folk out here. They ain't got no sense whatsoever. This California Karen went to her black neighbor's home. Yeah, went to the black neighbor's home. Yeah, went to the black neighbor's home. Accused him

of accused his pit bull of biting her dog. The man said, what the hell you talking about? I got it all on videotape. Then she told him, what kind of black, how y'all acting?

How y'all acting? Y'all, roll this video. No, most of them were very nice. I got everything on camera. So you can leave, please. You can get off my property. My dog has never messed with your dog. If you ever do anything to me again, I'll call the police. Call the police. Everything's on camera.

I'll be happy to show them. I'll be happy to show them. I got to... I don't want to see that dog outside. Well, he's going to be outside, because I have a right to have him just like every other person in here. He ain't done nothing to you. He ain't done nothing to your dog. Why are you so nasty? I'm nasty by explaining to you that my dog hasn't done anything wrong. You came over here to

my house on my property. But the dog came to my property. Look, I've been nice to you. I've helped you and your family. I've always talked to you. You've never talked to me. You've never helped me and my family. You've never done a goddamn thing. You coming over here. All you've done is been negative. No I haven't. I'm going to ask you to please leave my property. I don't know if you're just having a bad day or whatever, but today ain't good. I'm not having a bad day, but you know what? You're a black person in a white neighborhood, and you're acting like one. Why don't you act like a white person in a white neighborhood?

Speak it up. It's all on camera. I don't give a shit. What I did was on camera. Well, you can go back over to your house, and you can have a nice day. That's what you can do. And I'm going to keep walking my dog around this neighborhood. And I look forward every time I... You know your parents were nice. Yeah, my parents, they were very nice. Is there a problem to why you're yelling on our property? It's fine. She can... She got a taser. It's all on camera. You said what? I have a small little dog. Okay, but you don't have to talk to anybody in any disrespectful type of way. You have a pit bull that came after her.

No, he didn't. No, he didn't. It's on camera. Today. Can we see the footage? I got the footage right here. Let's see. So when she lies and calls the police.

And also, let her record you coming over here. It's a whole table. Why don't you record everything you can? It is recorded right now. We're not talking about anything except that. I have a small little dog, and you have a pit bull. And you're yelling with a taser. Why?

I brought it over here because it's a dog. The dog attacked my dog. The dog's not even outside, ma'am. He was outside. He was in front of you. He attacked her. Where is her dog? He didn't attack the dog.

I have it on camera. You know what? What? You guys are acting like black people. You should act like black people. Are we what? You're acting like Karen. I was raised in Oklahoma.

Wait, wait. Can you repeat that one more time? We're acting like what? I was raised in Oklahoma City where there were tons of black people. But we're acting like what? You're acting like people that aren't normal. Okay. This will be real nice when you're on the news, when you're on social media.

Get the fuck off the property. Get off the property. You know I have a top secret clearance. I don't give a fuck, bitch. Get the fuck off the property. Go back in the house. Go back in the house. Since we're acting like black people.

Right? We're acting like black people, and that's not normal. Most people don't act like you do. How are we acting? How are we acting? You came over here with a taser. I came over here because your pet bull attacked my little dog. He didn't attack your dog.

Not at all. Your son was out here with it. And he didn't attack the dog. The dog, I saw the dog. I saw you pet the dog. You pet with it and he didn't attack the dog the dog i saw the dog i saw you pet the dog you pet the dog i just pet the dog because i wanted to see if he was okay you didn't pet the dog but you pet the dog because he wanted to see if he was okay why don't you record all this i am recording it you you're about to be famous you know what you're gonna go you're about to be famous where am i gonna go where am i gonna go you're gonna go you're about to be famous. Where am I gonna go? Where am I gonna go? You're gonna go to hell. Okay, I'm gonna sue the hell out of you both of you. All right

Right over here Yeah, I'm going to... Is that just okay? What's your name? Josh. Josh? I'm Josh. I'm Josh. I like to play with you. You're going to play with me? Right here?

Yeah. After much as long. Thank you. Have a good day. What are you going to do about a little dog like this? There you go. There ain't no pit, but he ain't done nothing to your dog. Can you bash your butt up? What about all the other big dogs around here? You know, most people in Oklahoma that were black were normal. Are you guys not not normal i guess not i mean we got we got along with them really well you keep

walking over here with your taser you were yelling go in the house julia go in the house go in the house let's let's show the world who has class and who doesn't that's a good idea yeah Yeah. Isn't it be real nice when there's hundreds of people in front of your house because you want to be a racist white woman, Karen? Back the fuck up. Get off my phone. You know what? I have a tough thing for parents. You know what's going to happen to you guys? You're about to lose it.

Oh, no, I'm not. Yes, you are. Especially after this. Oh, yeah, it's a lot that you're going to lose. Yeah, you're about to lose a lot. Are you white? You wish I was, huh? Well, you look like you're white.

Well, I... But I was raised with black people, and they were very nice. Most of the black people I knew are very nice, and I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. well you look like you're white but i was raised with black people and they were very nice most of the black people i knew are very nice in oklahoma city have you been though that conversation for me michael went about four minutes and 40 seconds too long long. Yeah. They could have done yeah, I mean, I don't know why they just didn't call

the po-po on her. It was just but it's just a shame the the gall that folks have gotten and had over the last 420 some odd years, but the fact that they still have it in 2020

because of this culted personality that's been at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, she thinks she can do what she wants, call people what she wants to call them. And, yeah, you're right. I wish they had just called the police on her and let them see what let them sort it out because that was too long of a conversation,

and it's just unfortunate if you walk your ass up on my property kelly i'm telling you right now it's gonna be a problem yeah and then you hasn't got no mask on yeah i'm trying to tell you i'm like that was one of the first things that I noticed I'm like you don't have a mask you're not socially distant you three ways to Sundays types of wrong like there was nothing right about

what this woman did and the poor dog the poor dog is looking at everybody like I don't know why I'm here I don't know what she's talking about. I'm with the Black man on this because this don't make no sense. I want to go home.

I want to go home. Like, nothing made sense here. If there's nothing that dumb white people have, it is the audacity, the caucasity, if you will. Because the fact that she felt comfortable enough to be in my space on my property. Like, no, no, I don't have the patience for that. She would have been on the ground within 30 seconds

if she was in my face for that long. I'm just saying. That makes absolutely no sense to me. I'm telling you. Kudos to that family for having the patience and the grace necessary to navigate that situation well. But I can tell you right now, it could not be. And Michael, uh, the husband really knew

that the wife was about to go hashtag team, put that ass on her. He was like, go on in the house, go on the house. Because he heard the intensity of her voice. She's like, mm, she about to whoop your ass. So let me just go ahead, go on the house. Go on the house. He was trying to save the white woman.

Like, I'm trying to save your life. She dropped the B word, what, three or four times, that should give you an indication she's about to go up on her. Hey, hey, hey, she was letting her know right then, like, look, it's about to be a problem up

in here, so y'all might want to go ahead and get this little nonsense straightened out. But, you know, I'm telling you, that's how these folks roll. That's how they roll. All right, Kelly, Michael, as well as Joseph, I still appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Founders Day. Thank you. What Founders Day?

Founders Day. What? Happy Founders Day, Michael. Thank you very much. Oh Day? Founders Day. What? Happy Founders Day, Michael. Thank you very much. Oh, I'm sorry. That's right. Is it a little youth group day? Oh, my God. Okay. All right.

I got a quarter and a dollar in this. No, I mean, I just want to be clear because I'm just going to, you know, I just want to be clear that, you know, we got the right day since, you know, I just want to be clear that, you know, we got the right day since, you know. But you know what, Michael? But you know what? You know what? I'm sure glad you brought that

up, because I... No, no, no, no. I was, I was, I was, I saw all of these tweets. I saw all of these tweets and stuff from various people, and they were talking about, you know, they were showing, everybody named mama was showing their little videos and, you know, throwing you little stuff.

And I remembered, I remembered when Buddy Lewis and I. I thought we were over with this thing. No, we're not. We're not because we still have eight minutes left of the show. So Buddy Lewis and I were on the golf course in L.A. a couple of years ago. Buddy, of course, went to Howard. And he could not get into Alpha, so therefore he had no choice but to become an Omega. And so Chris Spencer,ris is behind the camera chris said

i bet you won't put on atomic dog on the golf course and challenge buddy why did he have the audacity to challenge an alpha... You have video? Oh, it's dead! I said, you think I'm worried? Now, Buddy was hopping. The problem is, Buddy can't step anymore. Shit! Buddy actually hops.

He gonna blow both knees, ankle, all this other shit. So, let me, since he old and he an Omega, let me show Alpha how to do it. Get it, buddy. Give him that kick, buddy. Y'all see that? Y'all see that?

See, he can't spin. Look at that. Y'all see that? Ha! He's fun. He stopped halfway. Because he can't. the guy. Look at that. Ha! He's fun. He stopped halfway. Because he can't. He going to blow something.

Nigga, y'all kicking mud all on my face. Don't let the alpha turn you out, buddy. I told him alpha's his daddy. Fuck that. It's never wise, Michael, to challenge an Alpha. I'll give it to you, though. That was impressive in golf shoes. It's never wise to challenge an Alpha.

It's never wise. It ain't going in well. I can't believe you had that video ready. Oh. I'm always prepared. Let's just be real clear. Ro always prepared. Ha ha! Kelly,

it's his show. We have to be prepared. It's his show. Yes, now you have that memory for your little founder's day. All right, Michael,

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