#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Gen. John Kelly Issues Warning About 2nd Trump Presidency, Gen Z Rapid Response Fund

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

10.23.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Gen. John Kelly Issues Warning About 2nd Trump Presidency, Gen Z Rapid Response Fund Trump's former White House chief of staff issued a stern warning that if elected again, his former boss would govern like a dictator, lack empathy, and have no understanding of the U.S. Constitution.  You'll hear what Kelly and Vice President Kamala Harris had to say.  We'll show you some of Harris' NBC interview. Justice + Joy National Collaborative launched its Rapid Response Fund, which will award grants to GEN Z voters to get out the vote on a rolling basis.  We'll talk to one of the organizers.  We'll also talk to a professor who participated in a report that found nearly 4 million Americans will not be able to vote because of their felony convictions. A judge gives Rudy Giuliani a week to turn over his $5 million co-op apartment to Georgia election workers he defamed. And a judge upholds the Jan. 6 trespassing conviction of the first January 6th rioter who was removed from office under the Constitution's ban on insurrectionists. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Kamala Harris had to say. We'll also show you some of Harris' NBC interview. Now, meanwhile, Justice & Joy National Collaborative launched its Rapid Response Fund, which will award grants to Gen Z voters to get out the vote. We'll talk to one of the organizers. We'll also talk to a professor who participated in a report that found that nearly 4 million Americans

will not be able to vote because of their felony convictions. And a judge gives Rudy Giuliani just one week to turn over his $5 million co-op apartment to Georgia election workers that he defamed. And the judge upholds the January 6th trespassing conviction of the first January 6th rioter who was removed from office under the Constitution's ban on insurrectionists.

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Rolling with rolling now. He's funky, he's, Donald Trump's longest serving White House chief of staff, has warned that if elected again, his former boss would govern like a dictator, lack empathy and have no understanding of the U.S. Constitution. Now, other Trump administration officials have criticized the convicted felon, but Kelly may just be the most high profile so far. In an interview published by The New York Times, he had grave concerns about Trump's fitness for office. Let's take a listen. He said to you that Hitler did a lot of good things.

Well, I tell him that. I said, you know, if you, first of all, you should never say that. But if you knew what Hitler was all about from the beginning to the end, everything he did was in support of his racist, fascist life, you know, philosophy. So that nothing he did you could argue was good. It was certainly not done for the right reason. But he would occasionally say that. What would he say when you would lay that out to him? He'd just, you know, that would be the end of the conversation usually. What do you think?

Do you think he's a fascist? Well, I'm looking at the definition of fascism. It's a far right authoritarian, ultra nationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized hypocrisy, militarism, possible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy. So certainly, in my experience, those are the type of things that he thinks would work better in terms of running America. You know, again, back to this issue of, you know, democracy is complicated, messy to operate, probably the worst kind of government there is, except for all the other ones.

I think Churchill once said that. And again, our Constitution, our founders built in to the Constitution and to the way our government operates, built in a lot of checks and balances and didn't design the government to be streamlined and whatnot. So, but certainly the former president is in the far right area. He's certainly an authoritarian and admires people who are dictators.

He has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of a fascist, for sure. He basically said to you that those who died for America on the battlefield were losers and suckers. And he said it more than once. Yes. But he would say it would always did something else would get him going off at times again. McCain never could wrap his arms around why people would serve the country in uniform. What was in it for them? That was the general theme.

And here is what Vice President Kamala Harris had to say about General Kelly's comments. Who will be loyal to him personally, one that will obey his orders even when he tells them to break the law or abandon their oath to the Constitution of the United States. In just the past week, Donald Trump has repeatedly called his fellow Americans the enemy from within and even said that he would

use the United States military to go after American citizens. And let's be clear about who he considers to be the enemy from within. Anyone who refuses to bend a knee or dares to criticize him would qualify in his mind as the enemy within, like judges, like journalists, like nonpartisan election officials. It is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous that Donald Trump would invoke Adolf Hitler, the man who is responsible for the deaths of six million Jews and hundreds of thousands of Americans. All of this is further evidence for the American people of who Donald Trump really is. This is a window into who

Donald Trump really is from the people who know him best, from the people who worked with him side by side in the Oval Office and in the Situation Room. And it is clear from John Kelly's words that Donald Trump is someone who, I quote, certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, who in fact vowed to be a dictator on day one and vowed to use the military as his personal militia to carry out his personal and political vendettas. Donald Trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable. And in a second term, people like John Kelly would not be there to be the guardrails against his propensities and his actions. Those who once tried to stop him from pursuing his worst impulses would no longer be there and no longer be there to rein him in. So the bottom line is this.

We know what Donald Trump wants. He wants unchecked power. The question in 13 days will be, what do the American people want? Thank you. All right. I am now joined by Rebecca Carruthers. She is vice president of the Fair Election Center in Washington, D.C., also joined by Joy Cheney, founder of Joy Strategies, also out of Washington, D.C. Joy, let me start with you. Listen, I don't think that there's anything here that is very surprising, except for the fact that now we are hearing this from a general. Do you think that this makes a lot of difference in this regard? I mean, it's difficult for me to say so because Donald Trump has said some of the worst things ever. Many of the things that are included here, people already know. John Kelly has already been critical. John Kelly has already said that he has said members of the military are suckers and losers.

It's obvious that he is an authoritarian leader, which I appreciate John Kelly just saying. If it quacks like a duck and it walks like a duck, it is a duck. Donald Trump is an authoritarian and he seems to have a fascination with authoritarian leaders. And there's a little bit of sociopathy there where he just doesn't understand that you can't like to honor and to exalt Hitler is a real problem for the world. He must know that. But there's some kind of distance between what a normal human would feel and what he would feel. It is dangerous to have this person in office. I hope that it makes a difference for Republican women, who Liz Cheney is talking to, who I think John Kelly is talking to, Republican people, moderates. But if you're on the fence, that combined with doms, why support Donald Trump? It doesn't matter what your husband's

doing. It doesn't matter what you think you might get in some kind of tax package. You don't want someone who wants to undermine democracy and your freedoms at the same time. I think it should say something to Black men

who might be out there saying the Democratic Party has disappointed me. I want to be a disruptor. Donald Trump is too high a price to pay to have an exercise in disruption. What he's advocating is the death of democracy. And black men will be the first ones to be caught up in that. So I'm hoping that for people who are on the margins, they understand that this is not the kind of person we want. Yeah. And not only on the margin, Joy, but the people who are saying, you know what, I don't like the choice. So I'm just going to stay home and actually not vote. Rebecca,

I want to turn it over to you. Do you think it makes a difference that this is the New York Times, that this does feel slightly more official? And yes, the general has said these things before, but now we're really close to the election. It looks like he's beginning to make his rounds in a more official capacity. Thanks for having me tonight. For those people who read or listen to, watch, consume the New York Times, for the most part, those people have already made up their minds and some of those people have already voted. Right now, we need to think about those who feel like they have nothing to lose, that they feel like neither party is talking to them. Those are the types of people that,

you know, are the ones that we should be compelling at this point and making sure that there is actually options on the ballot for people who feel like they have nothing to lose. There are a lot of people hurting in this country. And I would say, regardless of which party, the parties need to talk to those people who are hurting. Even though we know the economy is doing well, there are still people who are feeling their pennies being pinched, knowing that food prices have went up over the last decade, fuel prices have went up, housing prices have skyrocketed. So for the people who are hurting in this country, I don't know that a New York Times article is really speaking to them.

And so I would encourage both campaigns, you have to talk to the people in the streets. And, you know, Rebecca, I want to follow up with you. You know, 20 years ago, you compared somebody to Hitler. That was a problem. People would have a serious problem with that. I think it's very interesting in the meantime that this is somebody who the general has said that Trump really wants to follow, wants loyalists and people under him who were like Hitler's loyalists. Though if people read history, we know that those loyalists were also often in cahoots to try to kill Hitler. So it seems like there's a real miss in terms of the understanding of

history, as always. And certainly, perhaps we're immune to this whole idea of Hitler even becoming a part of the conversation. Do you see that as the case here, Rebecca? Well, in understanding the many steps to fascism and fascism regime, it requires, I don't know, banning books. It requires misinformation. It requires intentional disinformation campaigns within a society. So when those elements are starting to happen, when you're seeing that broad swaths of media, whether it's Sinclair News or it's Elon Musk X, formerly known as Twitter, where you're seeing that these places where people go to get information is now being compromised by

people with a set agenda, knowing that everyone has an agenda, but a set disinformation and or misinformation agenda, then people don't know, especially if they don't have books available where they can actually learn and research. Even when we see certain states where critical race theory, CRT, is banned, DEI is banned. Well, basically, they are trying to ban elements of history. So we all know the adage, if you don't teach history, if you don't know history, then that population is doomed to repeat history. So as we look at what the march to fascism looks like, it also requires banning of critical information. So I want to talk about Joy Blackman. You brought this up. In fact,

you both brought it up. What can actually change the tide in potentially getting Black men who do not want to vote or are not going to vote for Kamala Harris to actually cross over. Is there anything that you see that can happen? These are a group that have been taking up the headlines and really making a mark in terms of the power that they have. If you have someone in your house that is sitting home saying, listen, I'm not going to vote. Is there anything you think that can cross them over? If it's not the supporters, former supporters of the former president who have crossed over and said, this is not the man you want, then who can do it? Well, first of all, let me just say only on the Black Star Network and on Roland's show will I talk about black men. When I do other things, I'm not going to do it anymore because I want to talk about white women.

On those networks, I want to talk only about what white women are going to do it anymore because I want to talk about white women on those networks. I want to talk only about what white women are going to do to show up and vote and what we're going to do to convince them to come out. That said, that said on this network, to all the black men listening, I hope that you are going in your barbershops, your churches, your friendship circles, your friendship chain group. Listen, we know that Donald Trump is not the answer for our community, for the nation, for the world. We know this. What John Kelly is saying today is just yet another example. This is not the time to make a point to the Democratic Party.

The time to do that is after, right? We have our democracy. Even if you don't believe that we have a democracy, this man is trying to take back whatever gains we actually have. And he has proven himself to be someone who will incarcerate us, who does not respect Black people. The economy was not better under him, even if you felt it, but that was the residual effects of Barack Obama. We have improved our economy. Don't let him trick you into doing something that would harm you first. We know that that is the case.

And we know he's a fascist and that none of those are your values. And so at the end of the day, I think it's really hard to like talk to someone blanketly. But I think you have to ask why they're supporting Donald Trump, why they're apathetic. I went on the campaign trail this past week. I went to Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, and I met a black man, young black man who wasn't planning to vote. And my only request to him after I shook his hand and I listened to him and he said he just didn't see a connection between the election and himself. He didn't like Donald Trump. After I said that, what I asked him to do was just make me a commitment that you would research the Harris campaign, that you would ask yourself,

is it her that you have a problem with? And he said, no. I said, but don't punish her for all of the things that came before. You know that she would be a better president than these others. Don't you want to turn the page? It is connected.

We talked about student loans. We talked about all the things that do impact his life. And he agreed to do it. At this point, that's the best that I can do. But Democrats, when we win, because I have faith that we will win, we cannot wait until an election year to try to bring over Black voters. It's too transactional. We need to be working on people before. That's right, especially when we vote the down ballot too alright a good way to end this segment thank you for that we will be right back here on rolling

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Our new NBC News poll shows that more voters think that the Biden administration policies have hurt them rather than helped them. And I wonder, are the last four years an obstacle to you in this race? Here's how I look at it. First of all, let me be very clear. Mine will not be a continuation of the Biden administration. I bring my own experiences, my own ideas to it, and it has informed a number of my areas of focus, most of which are, on to your point, lowering costs. So part of my plan includes what we need to do to bring down the price of groceries, including the work I will do dealing with price gouging, something I dealt with when I was attorney general, something I will deal with going forward.

Then why do you think that's not landing with voters? Because in the numbers, it's the opposite. Former President Trump leads you on this issue. Well, when I'm out, this is why I'm going out to Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. Excuse me, just got in late this morning, actually, but going to three states yesterday, and I'm going to continue being on the road. I have to earn the vote. As you sit here today, do you think the country is ready now for a woman and a woman of color to be president? Absolutely. Absolutely. And I am saying that in terms of every walk of life of our country, you know, I think part of what is important in this election is really not only turning the page,

but closing the page and the chapter on an era that suggests that Americans are divided. The vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us. And what the American people want in their president is a president for all Americans, which is the type and kind of president I pledge to be. You've been reluctant to lean into, to talk about the historic nature of your candidacy on the campaign trail. Why is that? Well, I'm clearly a woman. I don't need to point that out to anyone. The point that most people really care about is, can you do the job? And do

you have a plan to actually focus on them? There is a big gender gap in this race. Fewer men support you right now than they did President Biden. Some of your allies have suggested there's sexism at play. I wonder, do you think there is sexism at play here? Let me just tell you something. You've come to my events and you will see there are men and women at those events. So the experience that I am having is one in which it is clear that regardless of someone's gender, they want to know that their president has a plan to lower costs, that their president has a plan to secure America in the context of our position around the world. Do you not see sexism as a factor in this race at all? I don't think of it that way.

My challenge is the challenge of making sure I can talk with and listen to as many voters as possible and earn their vote. We traveled with the vice president to campaign events in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. We are out here chatting with Vice President Kamala Harris. She is looking to win over moderate voters, Republicans undecided in this key battleground state. We're off to the next one. Wisconsin is next.

Including events with former Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney. You're out here trying to reach women, trying to reach moderate Republicans. We are just two weeks out from the election. If they're still undecided, it means something about your message hasn't connected with them yet. What is it? We're two weeks away from the presidential election, and people are listening to the issues.

You could tell from the response here with a group of undecideds, many independents, many Republicans, that they are open to and actually supportive of an approach that is about saying that we must have a president of the United States who honors and defends the Constitution of the United States as opposed to Donald Trump that says he wants to terminate it. And on the campaign trail, she criticized former President Trump on minimum wage after he avoided saying whether it should be raised while campaigning at a McDonald's. Do you have a number? What would you like to see it at? Well, at least $15 an hour,

but we'll work with Congress, right? That's something that is going through Congress. And we also asked her about Trump supporter, billionaire Elon Musk, campaigning in Pennsylvania with his $1 million offer to a random registered voter if they've signed his petition

in favor of free speech and the right to bear arms. Do you worry that it could be effective, his support for former President Trump in that key battleground? Listen, I'm not about doing gimmicks and all of that. I think that what we have to do and what I'm going to continue to do is to be out in communities. We also asked about abortion rights,

if Congress were to be controlled by Republicans. So is a question of pragmatism then, what concessions would be on the table? Religious exemptions, for example? Is that something that you would consider? I don't think we should be making concessions when we're talking about a fundamental freedom to make decisions about your own body. We are sitting here two weeks away from election night.

Last election, the former president came out on election night and declared victory before all the votes were counted. What is your plan if he does that again in two weeks? Well, let me say this. We've got two weeks to go. And I'm very much grounded in the present in terms of the task at hand. And we will deal with election night and the days after as they come. And we have the resources and the expertise and the focus on that as well.

So you have teams ready to go? Is that what you're saying? Are you thinking about that as a possibility? Of course. This is a person, Donald Trump, who tried to undo a free and fair election, who still denies the will of the people, who incited a violent mob to attack the United States Capitol,

and 140 law enforcement officers were attacked. Would you consider, if you win and he's convicted, a pardon for former President Trump? I'm not going to get into those hypotheticals. I'm focused on the next 14 days. But do you believe, is there any part of you that subscribes to the argument that has been made in the past that a pardon could help bring America together, could help unify the country and move on? Let me tell you what's going to help us move on.

I get elected president of the United States. And tonight at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, Vice President Harris will participate in a town hall on CNN with Anderson Cooper moderating in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. And finally, on Tuesday, Vice President Kamala Harris will give a speech on the National Mall. Let me talk to you about this for a moment, Rebecca. I think one of the things that really stood out was her response to what happens if Donald Trump says, you know what, I know that you might have won and the votes are in, but I'm going to do what I did before. I'm the winner here. She wasn't very specific about the plan, but I would imagine they certainly have a plan in mind because that could happen. Well, I'm still waiting to hear

the former president say that President Joe Biden won. So I don't think that he's actually going to acknowledge what does or doesn't happen on election night. I think he's going to be banana pants the way he has indicated already and that he doesn't happen on election night. I think he's going to be banana pants the way he has indicated already and that he doesn't actually believe in free and fair elections. He's not the most pro-democracy person. That said, you know, there are national groups like my group, Fair Election Center. We're a C3 nonpartisan organization. We're keeping our eye out in different hot spots across the country. There are other groups on the nonpartisan organization. We're keeping our eye out in different hot spots across the country. There are other groups on the nonpartisan side that's interested in upholding democracy that want to make sure that the votes do get certified, that those folks who are eligible

to vote who do cast their ballots, that their ballots are counted. And I do expect for that to happen in 2024 like it's done the previous years. All right. Joy, what do you think in terms of her interview? The biggest takeaway, she was given a lot of questions. Some might say it might have even got a little bit contentious. What would you take away from that interview? Well, I didn't think it was contentious, but I do think that she is very clear eyed about what's at stake, what needs to be done in the next two weeks, and not getting distracted. Because the fact of the matter is, right now it's about turnout. And it's about convincing those swing voters, those disaffected voters who might be deciding

to stay home. This is not about convincing someone who is a diehard Trumper. They're not coming along. So right now we have to focus where we need votes, where it's close, where the margins are tight. That's our focus now. What happens afterwards, whether Donald Trump seeks to steal the election or not, that right now is probably not a good use of time. Like Rebecca said, there are organizations. I'm actually on the board of her organization. But also, there is the election protection hotline run by the Lawyers Committee on Civil and Human Rights and other legal organizations. If you are a lawyer and you are interested in democracy and making sure that we're safeguarding the election, definitely sign

up for that. Look for election protection. But for everyone else, our focus right now is on saying this is what Kamala Harris and her focus is on. This is what I and Tim Walz will be doing for you. This is why you don't want to throw your vote away by staying at home. And you certainly don't want to do a protest vote in favor of Donald Trump. That's what we're focused right now in the states that matter. Rebecca, let me ask you this. And I also want to wrap with you, Joy, on the same question. Do you think it's fair that she's still being asked questions about being a woman? You know, I felt her exhaustion. I'm a woman. We see that. Next, do you think that, though, is still a part of the conversation that should be had? You know, I was... So I was at Southern University working with different students to promote the election to make sure that students in Louisiana are participating in early voting.

And what's really interesting, if you're Gen Z, if you're the age between 12 and 27, your formative years, you had a black president. Right. So if you're hearing people talk about, oh, the first black woman and South Indian descent president, it's not that big of a deal. But for those of us who have experienced nothing but white men as president, then having a woman as president is a big deal. So I think this is largely a prism depending on what generation you are and what experiences that you have. That said, if Kamala Harris becomes the first woman president in this country, it is a big deal. I know it's incredibly exhausting because this country is 248 years old, has never had a woman leading this country. So yes, it's exhausting. Just like it's exhausting for the common question of, oh, well, are men not voting for you because you're a woman?

You know, we talked about this earlier with Black men, and I think it's unfair that the narrative is, why aren't Black men supporting Kamala Harris? When we know about 80, at least 80 to 85 percent of Black men who vote this election cycle will be casting a ballot for Kamala Harris. But we know 75 to 80 percent of white men who vote this cycle will not be voting for Kamala Harris. So why don't we ask questions of the specific men who overwhelmingly probably aren't going to vote for Kamala Harris?

Yeah, you bring a very good point. Joy, let me finish with you. You have about 30 seconds. Your thought on the female question. You know what? Rebecca already said it. My sore on my leg says she already said it. Here's the question. Not just white men, not just white women. There are also other groups in this country. There are other groups that we are also, we are so close margins. We need everyone. So the question is why would anyone support someone who is endorsing Hitler? Okay. By the account of people who worked for him, these are his friends. This is his White House chief of staff who is saying this is who he is. His own vice president won't be

associated with him. These are the former vice president of the Republican Party won't be associated with him and has come out against him in favor of a Democrat. Y'all, this is unprecedented. Don't be a fool. But it's not just Black men. I think that's what Rebecca and I are saying. If anyone, no one who is sane, no one who cares about this country at all, or just even cares about themselves should be voting for Donald Trump. We ought to have a landslide for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. All right. Of course, join Rebecca breaking it down. You are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered live on the Black Star Network. We'll be back after a break.

A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams,

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Now those people have a warning for America. Trump is not fit to be president again. Here's his vice president. Anyone who puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year. His defense secretary.

Do you think Trump can be trusted with the nation's secrets ever again? No. I mean, it's just irresponsible action that places our service members at risk, places our nation's security at risk. His national security advisor. Donald Trump will cause a lot of damage. The only

thing he cares about is Donald Trump. And the nation's highest-ranking military officer. We don't take an oath to a king or a queen or a tyrant or a dictator. And we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. Take it from the people who knew him best.

Donald Trump is a danger to our troops and our democracy. We can't let him lead our country again. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. Here's a 78-year-old billionaire who has not stopped whining about his problems. Oh, she had a big crowd. Oh, the crowd. This weird obsession with crowd sizes. It just goes on and on and on. America's ready for a new chapter. We are ready for a President Kamala Harris. I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message. Wrongfully convicted. Five teenagers were arrested, tried, convicted and sent to prison.

Men were exonerated. What he did to us, he tried to end us. Of course I hate these people. So-called Central Park Five. Calling for execution. And let's all hate these people. You cannot have this man go into office again. I want society to have. We were innocent kids. The confessions were caused. Today we are exonerated. That guy says he still stands by the original guilty verdict. This is about democracy being on the ballot. I have absolutely no compassion. Look at Kamala. She represents the kaleidoscope of the human family. There's something different happening in America. We will get the opportunity to build a future where we will be able to thrive and not just survive.

Hello, I'm Marissa Mitchell, a news anchor at Fox 5 DC. Hey, what's up? It's Tammy Roman and you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. 40.8 million members of Gen Z will be eligible to vote in the presidential election. These young people have tremendous potential to influence the upcoming election. This is why the Justice and Joy National Collaborative says it launched a rapid response fund to mobilize young voters ahead of Election Day. Michael Grants, $50 to $500, will be awarded to young people of color under the age of 30 to organize and host get-out-the-vote activities in person and digitally across the nation. I'm joined now by Aisha Khan. She's a senior director at Justice and Joy National Collaborative. She joins us from Dallas, Texas.

Thank you so much for being with us, Aisha. AISHA KHAN, Justice & Joy National Collaborative, Dallas, Texas, Thank you. Glad to be here. YVONNE SMITH ROGERS, Yes, indeed. Now, let's talk about these initiatives that people are probably lining up for. I understand that last year you gave out $820,000. How did this come about in terms of these micro-grants, and how has it been working out so far in terms of getting out the vote? Yeah, thank you. So it really started just a

couple of months ago when we were talking with our youth advocates, and with their guidance, we created the Fixing Democracy Initiative, and it was essentially a research initiative that was surveying first how young people and Gen Z folks were feeling about the election right now. And from there, we realized that civic engagement is something that and reviewed by young people, by Gen Z folks. And applications are coming in every day about amazing events that young people are trying to put on, essentially with the same thread that, you know, young people want to talk to people in their communities. They want to engage them in fun ways and really just talk about the importance of voting this season. Yeah, you know, I'm very curious about what are the interesting and fun ways that they are out there promoting and trying to get grants for. What does that landscape look like? I mean, certainly it's changed, especially with social media. I am sure they are very creative with

their activities. Yeah, we've seen amazing things. We've seen ballot bracelet parties. There's another person out in the Midwest who's doing a roller skating sort of get together. There's been a lot of university events where just picnics and just our fund is helping fund really just her friends and family. A lot of intergenerational things we're seeing, too. There's a young mom in Oregon who's hosting a costume party for Halloween with mothers and kids to just talk about the importance of voting from a young age and then also at a very critical age for some of those young moms who are looking at very specific political issues. Gen Z, a big voting bloc. I would imagine that people on the political landscape are paying attention to how they are communicating with each other. Have you had people reach out to you to talk to you about what you're seeing because they want to use that in their political campaigns and just share with them how the Gen Zers are actually thinking and what they're doing these days. Yeah, and that was kind of what came out of our survey initially.

We really wanted to have very accurate messaging for folks who are working on active sort of political campaigns. And we found out a lot from those focus groups. We heard that, yes, young voters are, you know, they're fearful of kind of like violence and political division. They are unhappy with unaffordability of life and everyday needs not being met. A lot of them are disillusioned by democracy and theory and they want to see it actually in practice. But despite all of this sort of like oppression, systemic oppression on different levels, we're seeing that Gen Z voters of color specifically are very resilient and they're committed to striving for better for themselves and their communities. So messaging has really been about like liberation, community, like work. And yeah, there's just so much overwhelming

positivity that we're hearing from putting money in the hands of young people and really trusting them with these kind of events. And a real diverse group of young people. I understand that you specifically would like to seek out people who are, for example, from the black trans community. Tell me how that's going, how that response has been. Oh, it's been great. We really wanted this to be a specific fund for girls, young women, and gender-expansive young people of color because we really think that they're the most invisible and marginalized in society. I mean, polling shows that they are a critical demographic, but they're just ignored in the conversation. So

we really wanted politicians to take this voting block very seriously because they're the most effective from these systems. And some of the responses that we're getting from young people, and these are young people across the spectrum, have just been really overwhelmingly positive. And I think that it's building a lot of buzz within the Gen Z community and hopefully translating to how political campaigns are interacting with Gen Z as well. Before I go to Rebecca and Joy, I do want people to know how you are selecting people and what they can do in order to get one of these micro grants. What is the process? Sure. So you can go straight to our website, Justice and Joy, Justice and Joy National Collaborative, and you'll be able to toggle to the Fixing Democracy

Initiative. And from there, it's a very, very simple Google form. We didn't want to have too many obstacles for young people to get this funding. There are a couple of different levels of funding. They go as low as 50 to 500. And depending on the level of fund, we might ask a couple of additional questions like budget and just kind of like overall goals, demographics of folks who you expect to attend. And then after that, we're also helping to kind of gather the grantees on a virtual meeting and really build community from there because we've been hearing that's very important to Gen Z and something that Justice and Joy really values as well. All right. I want to open this up to Joy and Rebecca. Joy, I'll start with you. A question for Aisha. Well, let me just say Justice and Joy is really an outstanding organization and effort. And YWCA, which is one of my clients, has done a lot around Gen Z, which is 18 to 27. I believe Justice and Joy is

using about the same definition. And so, you know, what are the things that you have seen Gen Z women in particular, but Gen Zers of all, maybe you have both, what are they identifying as their top priorities in this election? No, that's a great question. So when we are talking about the demographics that we're working with, we're working again with a lot of system impacted folks. So the economy, the cost of living is very much top of mind. We're hearing a lot about the importance of reproductive health, abortion rights, especially when it comes to young moms. And, of course, like community care is definitely something that we're seeing across the spectrum from 16 to 23.

Folks are already identifying the importance of that. Something also that's top of mind is the genocide in Gaza. We're hearing a lot from disillusioned Gen Z folks who are on the fence really about voting at all. And that is top of mind that's kind of pushing them towards one way or the other. All right, Rebecca. Thank you so much for the work that you do. Can you tell us about some of the messaging that you might have tested as effective, especially with Gen Z? For sure. So something very particular was that Gen Z voters are, they resonate more with verbiage around liberation, and that was very specific to transgender participants. Freedom and messaging around freedom resonated

more with cisgender participants. Again, when we kind of polled and surveyed folks, we found that the dream candidate is a woman of color who is unapologetic, who's an advocate for issues that matter to them, including gender justice, the working class, and a ceasefire in Palestine. So again, talking about mutual aid, collective power, those are all very important to the voting bloc. And kind of making sure that, you know, there are no sort of negative views about apathy, because that really does invisibilize this really important voting bloc.

I want to get people excited about applying. This is a rolling application. Does it continue after this big election into other elections too and a down ballot? Can you explain your process in terms of the timeline? Sure. So we are closing applications on November 1st. So please, please, please make sure to apply before then. We're hoping that this is a continuous effort, really. We want to make sure that we are able to encourage, I mean, we know that young people are really invested in local elections as well, and we want to make sure

that that is not left on the back burner. This is, you know, just one part of a larger puzzle. So we're hoping to have more of these funds in the future, but for now, we really, really, really, really hope that you'll apply to the Rapid Response Fund, and we look forward to your application. Yeah, you know, you are in close contact inside of the mindset of many of those who are part of the Gen Z world. Has there been anything that has surprised you about what they have brought to the table? I am just constantly amazed at our youth leadership council that has been really spearheading this entire initiative. We've been looking to them for guidance about, you know, how should we structure the application? We've been hearing a lot about their, you know, sort of

like rubric for accepting and kind of delving deeper into some of the applicants that are coming in. So I am just always amazed and inspired at really the resiliency of this really like important voting bloc that's been invisibilized and ignored in the past. So more than anything, I just look up to them and have been learning a lot. All right. Thank you so much for being with us. Some important work that you're doing. Continue to fight. Good to see you. Thank you.

All right. And you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered here live on the Black Star Network. Stay with us. We'll be back after this. Jill Stein, Green Party candidate. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.

The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives.

But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Or the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.

From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1,

Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back.

In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded Podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man.

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Find resources for breaking through barriers at taylorpapersilling.org. Brought to you by Opportunity at Work and the Ad Council. ...for president. So why are Trump's close allies helping her? Stein was key to Trump's 2016 wins in battleground states. She's not sorry she helped Trump win. That's why a vote for Stein is really a vote for Trump. Jill Stein, I like her very much. You know why? She takes 100% from them. I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message because you work hard for your paycheck.

You should get to keep more of it. As president, I'll make that my top priority. It's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power. He is still saying he didn't lose the election. I would just ask that. Did he lose the 2020 election? Tim, I'm focused on the future.

That is a damning non-answer. America, I think you've got a really clear choice of who's going to honor that democracy and who's going to honor Donald Trump. Winners never back down from a challenge. Champions know it's any time, any place. But losers, they whine and waffle and take their ball home. Trump now refusing to debate a second time.

He did terribly in the last debate. He's so easily triggered by Kamala Harris. Well, Donald, I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me on the debate stage. If you've got something to say, say it to my face. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. Hi, everybody. I'm Kim Colson. Hey, I'm Donnie Simpson. Yo, it's your man, Deon Cole, from Black-ish, and you're watching... Roland Martin, Unfiltered. The Justice Department warned Elon Musk's America PAC that his $1

million suit states to registered voters in swing states may violate federal law. Musk, who has backed former Donald President, President Donald Trump, is spending millions of dollars supporting his candidacy, has publicized the $1 million prize his political action committee is offering to increase voter registrations in hotly contested states. Musk's initial promise to pay prizes to registered voters immediately raised concerns from election law experts and some state officials. Federal law bars paying people to register to vote. The petition's language currently promises $1 million prizes to people chosen randomly for signing a petition supporting First and Second Amendment freedoms.

But to sign the petition, you must be registered to vote in specific states. Joy, what are your thoughts about this and whether or not this actually violates federal law? It obviously violates federal law. Yeah, this is obviously inappropriate. This is obviously worse than that, particularly illegal. It was right for the Justice Department to jump in. It's why elections matter. It's not just the person in the top job. It's all the other people who are in the jobs. No one had to tell the Justice Department to do that. It's plainly illegal. And it's also a warning to other people, right? Don't do this. What Elon Musk does might have reverberations elsewhere. We want to make sure we cut that off at the pass.

And here's the thing. If he wants to pay people, you know, to vote, I mean, many people can take advantage of that. So that's not what we want in our elections. It's not so much that Elon Musk is going to make things worse for for, you know, just Democrats. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So if he's doing that, well, then some wealthy Democrat could do that. This is not what we want. This is not what we want. It's illegal. We'll see him in court, I guess. Yeah, I tell you, Rebecca, pretty much a bad president here if he can continue to do this. You know, Candace, I used to manage campaigns.

And if the campaign side, if we were to take a bus to fill it up with people to go register the vote in person and say it was over the lunch hour and we provided lunch while people are riding the bus to go out to their local elections office to get registered. We would get dinged. We would get fined because that would be considered giving someone something of value in order to register to vote here. And so where Elon Musk is really treading that line is he's saying in order to be eligible for this $1 million a day drawing, you have to specifically be a registered voter. And also, you have to be a registered voter in this very competitive state. But the point that he is providing something of value for those who are actual verified registered voters, that's where there is an issue. And once again, I don't think people want to go down this path because there is money in all

sides. And let's just move back from the brink because this is not where we want to go down this path because there is money on all sides and let's just move back from the brink because this is not where we want to go as a country. And Joy, what's so interesting is that no one told him that this wasn't a problem. Of course, this is part of the course when we talk about Elon Musk and things that he should do and shouldn't do and that are against the law. Someone may have told him, but I'm surprised that he was able to get this far and that he wasn't dinged before any of this even got out to this point. I don't understand why we're still talking about it. Well, he kind of just said it off the cuff. But here's the thing. Elon Musk doesn't do anything off the cuff. He's doing it because he wants to lure us into this debate. Because, of course, there are some people he says it's not about whether the DOJ deems him or not. I doubt he's going to even participate and go forward with this.

It's about then the DOJ has responded. So now then Joe Biden's DOJ is responding to something that he did. This is his effort to have his name and this whatever, chance, rally, raffle, whatnot, in the public eye. It's important for us to talk about it from a legal perspective, but I don't think we should focus on it

so much from a political perspective. I don't think we should be fanning the flames about this. This is about him getting attention and about him reinforcing a notion that the DOJ is cracking down on so-called Republicans. This is kabuki theater as usual. It doesn't mean it's not harmful. It doesn't mean it can't be harmful, and it is certainly illegal. But that's what this is about. It's about the theater, not about the law. And so, so, so, Rebecca, do you think that we will this will be squashed eventually soon?

I mean, like I said, it's taken a long time so far, I think. But eventually this will be squashed. I mean, this just happened. I don't want to be petty or political here and call him Dollar General Lex Luthor. But that's in essence what this guy is. I think, you know, he's going to do what he wants. I mean, after all, it didn't perform on President Trump to say, hey, I'm going to give him the job that will allow him to remove all the regulations on the particular industries that he has a huge financial stake in. So it's like at this point, look, it's 13 days. People go vote. It's very clear on what one presidency will look like

versus a different presidency. It's just go vote at this point. Right, right. And, you know, Rebecca, I think it's interesting you mentioned Elon Musk in terms of his role, what he might be put in. You know, there's a lot of talk if Trump is elected president that Elon Musk will be put in a major position that will actually put him in a role where he oversees his own companies, potentially giving them more rights and better interests in terms of legislative policies. Another problem I'm sure that the Department of Justice is already thinking about.

But if it's a Trump Department of Justice, would that Department of Justice actually act if there is such a blatant disregard and a blatant conflict of interest? Because once again, folks, you are voting for an administration. You're not just voting for who's going to be in the White House, but you're voting for all these other shenanigans and characters. So you have to make the determination because we know it's going to be a choice between two people, between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. We know that there isn't a viable third party that's going to come in and take this election. So it's going to come down to those two candidates. So people have to understand that they're voting between two different worldviews

and two different executive leaders. And Joy, let me wrap up with you. This is something I'm sure that obviously the Harris campaign is thinking about doing something about how can they use this to their advantage? I mean, I think this is just more of the chaos that they can be pointing to. But to that, we want to avoid and we want to turn the page from do you want to turn your society over to Elon Musk and Donald Trump? But can I just say, Rebecca's right. We're less than two weeks out. A lot of times the big economic forces

we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Business

Week. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing.

So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.

From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way.

Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. two of the war on drugs podcast we are back in a big way in a very big way real people real perspectives this is kind of star-studded a little bit man we got uh ricky williams nfl player hasman trophy winner it's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves music stars marcus king john osborne from brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote.

Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to hear episodes one week early

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People with felony convictions in 48 states are banned from voting. Due to these laws, an estimated 4 million people, representing 1.7 percent of the voting age population, are ineligible to vote this year. Many of these laws date back to post-Reconstruction era. One in 22 African-Americans of voting age is disenfranchised, a rate more than triple than that of non-African-Americans. Seven out of 10 people disenfranchised are living in their communities, having fully completed their sentences and remain supervised while on felony probation or parole. And more than one in 10 African-American adults is disenfranchised in five states, Arizona, Florida, Kentucky, South Dakota, and Tennessee. The sentencing project

recently published a report called Locked Out 2024, 4 million denied voting rights due to a felony conviction. University of Minnesota Professor Christopher Eugen contributed to that report, and he joins us now from Minneapolis, Minnesota. Christopher, thank you so much for being with us. Christopher, are you there? Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you for being with us. You know, this is something certainly that when we look at the numbers, 4 million votes, that changes the tide. It can when it comes to an election.

Tell me a little bit about this study because there have been some doors that have been opened over the years for those who have served their felony convictions. But where are we now in terms of felony convictions, those people who have served their time but cannot vote? Yeah, it's a tale of both tremendous growth in re-enfranchisement. There's been lots of states have restored the vote in recent years. So for the first time in a long time, people who are in the community on supervised release will be able to vote in Minnesota. And the same is true in New Mexico. There have been 10 states that have expanded the vote. So in 2016, it was about 6 million people couldn't vote. So we're down to about 4 million. That's a big

change and a lot of positive news. On the other hand, that means 4 million folks are going to be left out. I started studying this issue around 2000. In the 2000 election, there was also about 4 million people who were locked out and couldn't vote. And their votes may have been decisive in the presidential election. So it's a very important issue. It seems as though that the changing tide in terms of those who at one point couldn't vote and now they can vote, it seems as though that would be a good precedent for other states to look to for something to happen on a federal level. What are your thoughts about why this hasn't happened all over and that only a few states do this? Yeah, it has been, there's been a durable Supreme Court precedent since the 1970s that has kind of given the states

the capacity to set their own rules regarding voting for people with criminal records. And that kind of has led to this really patchwork quilt around the country. So, you know, if you're incarcerated in Maine and Vermont, you never lose the right to vote. If you're incarcerated in Florida, you may lose the right to vote indefinitely or at least until you've served all your time, paid all your fines and fees, and if your offenses don't occur on an excluded list. So that sort of unfairness across the country is one of the real challenges. As I said, though, you know, there's a lot of grassroots coalitions around the United States that are really working

hard to expand the vote. And is there any movement in terms of on a federal level or anything happening in Congress to see just a complete change in the tide? That has been more elusive. I'll say that, you know, there have been several Supreme Court challenges under the Voting Rights Act because because as you discussed, there's a disparate impact racially. And many of these laws were formed with racial and racist intent after the Civil War, when Black men gained the right to vote. So I think there are legal grounds for such a case, and any infringement on voting should get some strict scrutiny from the court. But I would say that that has been an uphill battle, and I'm not particularly optimistic

that we'll see action at the Supreme Court or in the federal courts generally. So it's been more states picking away at each of these categories and saying, well, what can we do for people who are post-sentence, who've served all their time? What can we do for people who are on parole or who might be on probation? And those have gradually started to chip away at these laws. You know, I'm very curious, what is the legal argument that is being made as to why those who have served their time and they come out and they have all the other freedoms in the world, except for this particular freedom in terms of not voting. How is that connection actually legally being justified?

I would personally characterize the arguments as relatively thin. The proponents of disenfranchisement say that people who commit felony-level crimes have shown that they are not worthy, they don't make good decisions, they can't be trusted, for people in the community, a judge, our criminal legal system is seen fit to allow people to be out, to be working in their communities, to be paying taxes. And that's the number one thing I hear from impacted populations about this, is they think it's taxation without representation. Yeah, absolutely. Let me open this up to my panel. Joy, I'll start with you. A question for Christopher. So can you just review for people if you have it, like the states where this is at play, right? Where is this going to make a difference? Yeah, I would say, you know, it could make a difference in any state, but in states that it's the places where it's heaviest is is in the south and in the east. And that's clear in our report. So states like Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi, to some extent, Georgia in states that disenfranchise beyond the period of sentence,

that's where it really has an impact. Because, you know, if I were arrested and convicted in 1980, my record could still be preventing me from voting. And so those states, I would say, are particularly—we have particularly high rates of disenfranchisement. Yeah, let me ask a follow-up. So one of the things I know, though, is that sometimes we assume that you can't vote if you are in jail. There's a lot of misconception about whether it's felonies aside. I know you focus on felonies. Where can people get information to sort of figure out exactly what the rules are in their state? Because there's some places where you can have misdemeanors, you can have arrests. As long as you're not physically in jail, you know, you

are okay. So explain some of that to us. That's correct. And I think sometimes there are even deliberate suppression efforts that say, oh, if you have a felony, you can't vote. In all but 10 states, the right to vote is restored to people upon completion of their sentence. You can always go to your Secretary of State's office and the Secretary of State's website to find out some of this basic information. The Sentencing Project Report, I think, is a good guide. So if you go to sentencingproject.org, you'll see that prominently featured. But it can really depend, I would say, you know, know your supervision date and know if, you know, in about 25 states, it's kind of a system where only those who are currently incarcerated for a felony-level crime, and that's typically in a state penitentiary, are unable to vote. People in jails who are either convicted of misdemeanors or are awaiting trial are generally eligible. It's often a challenge to get registered, et cetera, but often retain the legal right to vote. So, you know, I'd say

the Secretary of State's office is a good general guide. But, you know, emailing the Sentencing Project or one of the members of our author team, we'd be happy to help folks out, too. Yeah, quite a bit of information. I'm not sure if we pulled up our graphic, the states and their felony disenfranchisement restrictions. We have a full screen of that as I go to Rebecca and ask her to ask you a question, Christopher. Sure. Thank you so much for the report. I'm Nicole Porter. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.

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I'm glad to see that you all have shown that it's down to 4 million, which is 4 million too many. But that's down compared to the previous presidential cycle. I have so many comments and questions, but I want to limit it to one thing, because my organization does voter restoration litigation. And we're in Kentucky, we're in Virginia around the arbitrary voting rights restoration. But I have a Florida question for you. Many of our viewers are familiar with that amendment that passed in 2018, which provided, I think it was 1.4 million returning citizens, those who are convicted of felonies,

to actually get their voting rights restored. But then the Florida legislature said, not too fast. Now you actually have to pay a fine, in essence, a poll tax. Unfortunately, in Florida, your probation officer doesn't know what that fine is. Your local county elections board doesn't know what that fine is. The secretary of state can't tell you what that fine is. The sheriff or even the courts can't tell you what that fine is. So in essence, it is, I think, about 900,000 people in limbo because they don't have information on how to get their rights restored. So can you talk more about Florida? Yeah, we've been thinking a lot about Florida for many years. You know, it is a challenge. And Desmond Meade, the great advocate for voting rights restoration in Florida and around the world, he really, I think, led this movement

to restore the vote, got over 60 percent of Floridians to vote in favor of restoring the rights upon completion of sentence. And as you point out, you know, this this this requirement to pay off one all of one's court debt is quite onerous. You know, it's it's not like you owe a library book in the library or a library fine in the library can tell you what you owe. You know, this all depends. It could be spread out across counties. It's extremely difficult. Now, we estimate that about one in three people who should have been affected by this law actually have had their rights restored and are current on their legal financial obligations. But, you know, this is a whole other area of work about fines and fees in the justice system, because we know they've gone through the roof.

They are often insurmountable for people. And as in Florida, in many states, they operate at the county or local level, and there's no central repository. So when I talk to people in my research, they don't know the total amount they owe and they can only guess at it. So I think this is a real challenging issue for folks. It is the case, however, that, you know, in many states that people have had their rights restored or that the requirement to pay these fines and fees has been waived. And we talked to some extent about that in the new report. And I just want to give this opportunity for you to encourage people who are out there to actually learn about this and what they can do in order to make sure that

there is a groundswell of support for those people who are disenfranchised in terms of what everybody can do to try to make this happen. There is. And I think it's important to point out, too, just how weird the United States is in disenfranchising people, especially beyond prison. You know, in the rest of the world, the whole fulcrum of debate is about whether people in prison should be able to vote or hold office. In the United States, we're applying these permanent disenfranchisement to large, large numbers, to millions of people. You know, we for the first time this year, we have state bystate numbers of the women affected specifically and the men affected. And over 90 percent of the women who are disenfranchised are in their communities, working, raising families, being active in other ways. So the United States is a real outlier on this issue, as on so many others. And the time for reform is now.

All right. Christopher Eugen, thank you so much for being with us tonight. Great information that I'm sure people will be sharing. Thank you for making us aware. Thank you so much. All right. You are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered here on the Black Star Network. Stay with us. Jill Stein, Green Party candidate for president. So why are Trump's close allies helping her? Stein was key to Trump's 2016 wins in battleground states. She's not sorry she helped Trump win. That's why a vote for Stein is really a vote for Trump. Jill Stein, I like her very much.

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It's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power. He is still saying he didn't lose the election. I would just ask that. Did he lose the 2020 election? Tim, I'm focused on the future. That is a damning non-answer.

America, I think you've got a really clear choice of who's going to honor that democracy and who's going to honor Donald Trump. Hey, yo, what's up? It's Mr. Dalvin right here. What's up? This is KC. And your representative, J-O-D-E-C-I, that's Jodeci, right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. You know, Rebecca and Joy, I really want to talk to you about what you are doing out there on the campaign trail. I know that you are doing a lot. You know that what people are talking about, what's important to them. You're talking to a lot of people that a lot of us don't have access to. Let me start with you, Rebecca. What are you seeing out there on the campaign trail and hearing from people that you think it's important for this audience to know about? Because you are on the ground and you're familiar with so much more than many of us are when it comes to what's happening in the world of politics and how people are voting.

Absolutely. And to be clear, I'm not on the partisan campaign trail, but I'm doing a lot of voter education across the country. I was recently in Montgomery. Shout out to the RMU family I've met. I saw so many of you all while I was at Alabama State's homecoming. And one of the things that I heard from a lot of voters is that they were unaware that they are now in a new congressional district, which is called an opportunity district. For those of you all who aren't familiar, there was a Supreme Court case that said that Alabama drew their congressional seats in such a way to deny Black voters the potential to actually have more Black representation than the one congressional district in Alabama. So now, if you are a student at Tuskegee, if you're a student at

Alabama State, if you live in Parts Mobile, if you live in Montgomery, you absolutely have the opportunity to vote for a candidate of your choice that might more closely represent you aligned with your interests. And so, you know, it was a little disheartening that there were voters who weren't aware of that. But that's one reason why different groups do voter education, to make sure that people understand when a district, when a new district is drawn over their head, they must know. So they are informed where they're going to cast their ballot. Yeah. And where would you say someone should look to find out the latest information?

Because there is so much information going out that's out there, misinformation. And people just don't know where to go to see the latest. But what would you tell them? So the basics, if so, I'll give you the nonpartisan Web site that you could go to see the latest, but what would you tell them? So the basics, um, if you, so I'll give you the nonpartisan website that you could go to. You should start at vote. Gov. What do you do at vote. Can you say that again?

I lost you for a moment. So it's a, one of the most important things you could do is go to vote.gov. It's a nonpartisan website. And actually double-check your registration. See when you have the opportunity to vote, whether it's in person or if you just request a ballot by mail and vote, or if you need to wait until Election Day in order to vote. So that's the first thing that you should do. The second thing is once you verify that you are registered to vote, I need people to look up their sample ballot. And they could go to their Secretary of State or they could go to their local county board of elections. They can access this online and actually put in your information where you're registered to vote and you could see

what's going to be on your ballot. Take the time to actually do Google, go to Ballotpedia, which has really great information, amendments that's on your ballot. It has great information about the candidates and some of their positions of those candidates who are on the ballot, not just the top of the ticket, but down ballot. But do as much as possible to educate yourself. Because if you live in Arizona, if you live in Ohio, if you live in Florida, if you live in Nevada, if you live actually in the majority of states this year, there are relevant ballot initiatives that should inform you because that's direct impact on what's happening in your cities, in your towns, and not just what's happening at a federal level, but things that are happening at a local level. If you live in some of the states that I mentioned, there's also relevant Supreme Court races, state Supreme Court races in your particular state. So there's a lot of stuff that's on the ballot. Voters really must educate themselves to

understand the choices that they're making going into the ballot booth this cycle. And Joy, when we talk about educating ourselves, we are not just talking about scrolling to Instagram or Twitter, which if you go on Twitter, because of Elon Musk, the first stories, 10, 20 stories that you get are all political on both sides. It's like we are in a silo when we are on these social media sites. We have to do more than just scroll. That's right. So, Rebecca, I'm going to repeat the names of the websites that Rebecca talked about because those are the ones that I was going to identify. Vote.gov and Ballotpedia. I believe it's.com, Ballotpedia, but we can check that or maybe.org. Rebecca, maybe you can check that while I'm talking because we want to make sure you have these resources. In this critical moment, here's what I want you to do. I want you to not get your news off social media. There is some good stuff

and there's some bad stuff. But when you're looking for the facts, that is not where you want to go. This is the time to go to reputable media sources. So you want to go to your major newspapers. You want to go to your.gov, so if it's a government-produced website, your secretary of state, your county election officials. Those are the areas where you want to get your information from because those people are nonpartisan. I already said earlier tonight, if you are a lawyer or a law student or so inclined, you can do election protection to try to help people actually know how to vote and do so in a nonpartisan way. After you've done all that and you're down to deciding, you know, I really want

to arm myself with who I should vote for and what their policies are. Maybe you are trying to convince others of who they should be voting for. I want you to go on the websites of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, of whatever senator, whatever House member. And this is their campaign website, not their official website. That's where they will contain their policy priorities. If it's not on their website and they haven't written about it, that is not priority for them. So go on there and see what policy positions they are putting out. What are they selling to you

as a reason for you to vote for them? Those are the things that you have to do. This is the time to get serious and to arm yourself with why you should be supporting someone. So don't even listen to us. Go and make your own decision. There's a lot there. And I'm going to tell you because I can speak in a partisan way. If you're talking about policies, you're going to like what you see on Kamala Harris' and Tim Walz's campaign website. Don't leave it to chance. Go and look. The last thing I want you to do is I want you to read Project 2025.

Because that, that's also on the internet. That is what Donald Trump will be ushering in. If you don't want Project 2025, then you know what you got to do. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's

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you know, we're the providers, but we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. A wrap-up way, you got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else, but never forget yourself. Self-love made me a better dad because I realized my worth. Never stop being a dad. That's that occasion. Find out more at fatherhood.gov. Brought to you by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. All right, so Rebecca, I want to remind people that you work with the Fair Election Center. I know that a lot of people are bracing themselves for the day after the election or even that night when the election is called.

What can you tell us that organizations like you that you are doing and what can we do in order to to kind of prepare for the outcome? Because regardless of who wins, there's going to be an aftermath. So the first thing that you should do, you should make sure you are locked in and you're watching the Black Star Network. Because we will be going live on election night. I think we're going to go live at 8 p.m. And we'll probably be live until 2 a.m. or 3 a.m. Making sure that people have the latest information. They're actually hearing Black thoughts across the political spectrum.

And they're hearing how we're interpreting what we're seeing on the ground, because we will be providing factual information. And for many of us who have done this work for years and years, we're not just providing opinions, but we're actually providing informed opinions. So that's the first thing you could do is make sure that you're tuned into the Black Star Network. The next thing that you should do is familiarize yourself with the local rules in your jurisdictions. Like I know sometimes I hear people say, how come it is certain parts of Detroit or certain parts of Atlanta? Why is it that Fulton County is so late in turning in their ballots? But one thing for people to understand is that physically ballots are moved from the polling location to the central location in order for them to be properly tabulated. That takes time.

So that means that those polling locations that are in like the outer suburbs usually are the latest ones to actually get to the central area where the ballots are going to be counted. So make sure you understand the order that ballots are counted. Depending on the state, sometimes it is all of the early voting. Sometimes it is all of the voting from the time that the polls open until noon. That might be the first tranche of numbers that you see at the bottom of your screen on election day. And then the next group of ballots might be those who casted their ballots early in person. And then the next group of ballots might be those who casted their ballots early in person. And then the next step could be those who casted their ballots

through vote by mail. So it depends on the jurisdiction. But the reason why I'm saying all of this is that there will be misinformation. There'll be misinformation that night and not just misinformation where people are misspeaking, but there will be specific disinformation where people are trying to intentionally mislead folks. And we know that Black folks are being targeted on different social media platforms to inject a sense of fear, to inject a sense of confusion. So the best thing that people can do as we're going into election night is to arm yourself with information so you understand the mechanics of how ballots are being counted. Because it's not a mystery. There's literally laws that there's different statutes in each state

that tells you, hey, this is how ballots are going to be counted. This is how many days after election day that it takes for ballots to be certified. All of this information is already there. So familiarize yourself with it so you understand what you're viewing in real time on election night. Absolutely. You know, we are all becoming really so informed just about the process of voting in these last election cycles. There has been some good that has come out of this. I think that we are a more informed society. We care more. But again, we have to get out of those silos.

We have to get out of those algorithms and understand that there are pieces of news that are out there that are not just found by us scrolling. When we scroll, we are actually in an echo chamber of people who think like us, you know? So it leads us to sit there longer because, of course, everybody thinks like us and it makes us feel comfortable. And when we get comfortable, that's where that information really, really can seek in. All right, ladies, great information. We are going to be back after the break with more of these two. You are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered live here on the Black Star Network. Stay with us.

Her blanket. First of all, I'm the one that got rid of Roe v. Wade. Do you believe in punishment for abortion? There has to be some form of punishment. For the woman? Yeah, there has to be some form. Women will be happy, healthy, confident and free. You will no longer be thinking about abortion. That's all they talk about, abortion.

You will no longer be abandoned, lonely or scared. You will no longer be abandoned, lonely, or scared. You will no longer have anxiety. You will be protected, and I will be your protector. Bob and I both voted for Donald Trump. I voted for him twice. I won't vote for him again. January 6th was a wake-up call for me. Donald Trump divides people.

We've already seen what he has to bring. He didn't do anything to help us. Kamala Harris, she cares about the American people. I think she's got the wherewithal to make a difference. I've never voted for a Democrat. Yes, we're both lifelong Republicans. The choice is very simple. I'm voting for Kamala. I am voting for Kamala Harris.

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I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. What's up, y'all? This is Wendell Haskins, aka Winn Hogan, at the original Chief Golf Classic. And you know I watch Roland Martin unfiltered. All right. It is all coming down on former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. He has less than a week to surrender his Manhattan penthouse and other valuable possessions to two Georgia election workers in a defamation case that cost him $145 million in a civil judgment. Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Louis Lyman ordered Giuliani to transfer his personal property,

including cash accounts, jewelry, valuables, his Mercedes, television, furniture and sports memorabilia to Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss. Now, he has to also hand over his Madison Avenue co-op apartment. If you recall, Giuliani accused the mother and daughter of many things, including excluding observers during the vote count, introducing suitcases of illegal ballots, counting the same ballots multiple times, and secretly passing around flash drives during the 2020 election. Giuliani was found liable last year for defamation against Freeman and Moss.

In their lawsuit, the two women said that they suffered emotional and reputational harm and fear for their safety after being falsely singled out for ballot tampering. A lot going on there, Joy. You know, this is what happens. You know, we were talking about misinformation in the previous segment, and this is what happens, Joy, when misinformation goes too far. That's right. It's what happens when misinformation goes too far. That's right. It's what happens when misinformation goes too far. But these were intentional lies. Sometimes the misinformation term is too polite. These were lies that they knew were lies that they knew were meant to misinform and to try to disenfranchise people, to scare people into not being election workers,

to punish people who helped people vote, to gin up anger and resentment amongst their own base, to create a villain. And those villains didn't just by happenstance happen to be black women. If you were a black man out there and you're thinking about yet another reason, you should not want these people back in office. These are folks who intentionally targeted black women who were serving their community. They got death threats. So Rudy Giuliani absolutely deserves everything that's coming to him he um had such a position of power and authority in our nation and instead of using it for good he used it for ill and so yeah i um forfeit all of that property do you have to find a way to repay back for your transgressions,

just like the people you incarcerated when you were a prosecutor and when you were a mayor. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. You're bringing it home right there. You know, Rebecca, what's interesting is that you would think that this would be a warning to many people who are continuing to lie, but it doesn't seem to be working out that way. You know what? You love to see it. I mean, good for Shay and her mom. They are moving on up to the east side. They finally got their deluxe apartment in the sky.

So I'm grateful for that for them. You know, here's the thing. People are spreading, like Joy said, misinformation. I don't think it's even appropriate here. This is disinformation. Disinformation is intentional lies targeted to certain groups of people to get them to do certain things. And so we know that after the 2020 election, both Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani, they were saying certain things because they thought they were going to get the public on their side and their public believing that the

2020 elections were rigged, when in fact, we do know that there has been lots of data and reports that have shown, even Trump's DOJ at the time, that showed that the election was not rigged. And so, you know what, just like we've seen Fox News having to pay money for lies that have been on air about people, about companies. You know, Fox isn't going to be the last. Giuliani is not going to be the last. They most certainly wasn't the first. But people have to understand when you are saying lies on people and there is a harmful impact, you can be sued and you could be sued and

you will lose and you would have to turn over your deluxe apartment in the sky. Exactly. And Joy, other stuff. I mean, we're talking about championship rings and jewelry. And he had 23, 24 luxury gold watches. All of that is kind of just up for the giving in here in terms of the give back. It seems to me that people would be able to get a lesson from this. They're not getting that lesson. But I think it speaks to the larger picture, that here you have a man that was highly regarded, if you think about before 9-11 and post-9-11, and this was a man, his reputation seems like it could never be damaged. But here he is on the

other side. And I think that this really speaks to an important lesson about those people who call themselves supporters of Trump. If you look at the future of many of those who were his supporters, those people who were in allegiance with him, they are now still facing criminal prosecution. Even Rudy Giuliani, this is not the end of it. This 24-page ruling by the judge, he's going to be going back to court in Georgia. He's going to be going back to court in Arizona on other criminal cases having to do with this vote. I think that this is a clear picture of what's going to happen to a number of people in Donald Trump's circles. I think that's right. I remember Dave Chappelle going on Saturday Night Live once and then his cold opened. He said, you know, what kind of man profits while his friends die?

At the time, we were in a moment of COVID. But the truth is, Donald Trump is the kind of person who excels off of the backs of his friends. There is a heap of bones where reputations used to be, people following him thinking that he was some pathway to glory, some pathway to resurgence. He is not. He is a pathway to death, to a ruined reputation, to, in many cases, jail, right? And the people who come on the other side only come out when they have to completely disavow him and all of the other things that he said before. We have seen it happen before. I think we're going to see it happen with J.D. Vance. Who's out there defending J.D. Vance. Who's out there defending J.D. Vance as he is completely,

he is weird, but he was someone that could have been a rising star, but he hitched his wagon to someone who is a disaster. Now Trump makes fun of him and is discarding him in the trash heap of history. Same thing with my former law school classmate DeSantis and Governor DeSantis in Florida. Haven't heard from him since. He has been destroyed. Donald Trump is destroying the

Republican Party, which is why their leaders are breaking apart from them and supporting Kamala Harris. You know, Rebecca, he deserves it. He deserves it. What is it that Vice President Kamala Harris should be doing at this point? And I say this because you have all of these things going on, everything we've talked about on this show right now. Seems like so much should be working to her advantage. Certainly we know that she's making her rounds,

has been more specific about her plans to increase housing and bring down healthcare costs. But what else could she and should she be doing at this point to bring it home? I think one thing that I would remind any campaign, especially if it's a presidential campaign, you also have to make sure that there is an adequate ground game. You have to make sure people are knocking on doors. It can't just be people like me who live in Washington, D.C.,

going into these states, but you actually have to hire people on the ground who live in these communities. You have to make sure that money is flowing to organizers, to neighbors, to compel other neighbors to get out to turn out to vote. Because once again, if Rebecca's knocking on someone's door, maybe they'll vote, maybe they won't. But if it's their neighbor that's knocking on the door and compelling them to vote, that's going to be definitely more effective. It's going to be definitely more impactful. And it's going to be someone who can relate to that person with what they're going through in their everyday life where they live. And so one thing that I will say, because I've seen some of the criticism in the press by different groups saying that they aren't receiving money to do this work, but in their minds, they think that they're being viewed as free labor. Make sure you're paying the people

and make sure that on the ground, there's lots of movement. There's still 13 days, 13 long days. This election could really go either way at the top of the ticket. But the group that has the strongest ground game and is compelling people to go vote is the group that's going to win. Yeah, and I'm going to close on you, Joy, before we go to break. A lot of people who said, you know, who voted early, they said, you know, I went in, I didn't know who I was going to vote for until I went in there. So there's time. There is time for people to make themselves informed. There's time for the ground, there's time for the groundswell of support in terms of people who are going out there, making sure that people vote.

There's time to make a change, even though we are less than two weeks away. I said it before. I'll say it again. I want us to focus on people who are apathetic, who need to be reminded of how important their vote is. We know those people to come out. And I know that when they come out, they're going to support Kamala Harris. If you're not decided right now, you're not going to go out and support Donald Trump. Those are going to break towards Harris. So I want us to focus on people who are undecided, maybe not, excuse me, undecided about whether to vote,

not necessarily who they're going to vote for. Then I want us to talk about joy. This feels a lot more like Obama moment than God bless her, but Hillary moment. We need to have a groundswell of people who are excited about where our country is moving towards. We're one of the last major nations to not have a woman president. That's important. We can lean into that. Future, hopefulness, joy, freedom. We have been moving away from that.

That's the promise of Donald Trump. That's the promise of Donald Trump. Joe Biden helped us repair from his disastrous administration to Trump's administration. Now we have the ability to move forward beyond not just repairing, but driving forward. That's what the closing argument should be of this next couple of days for the Harris campaign. All right. You are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered live here on the Black Star Network. We'll be back after these messages. A lot of times the big economic forces

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coming through the federal court in Washington, D.C. Well, Rebecca, we are not surprised. I don't think this comes as a surprise to anybody, but it is an interesting precedent when we talk about the people who are continuing to appeal their positions and their convictions and their time served in jail. Very simply put, you cannot break into Congress. You cannot break into the Capitol and think that there aren't any repercussions for doing so. So these are people who are very entitled. They felt like former President Donald Trump gave them the permission structure in order to do what they did on January 6th. This wasn't just, oh, I was caught up in the moment.

I didn't know what I was doing. But this was months of planning. That attack on the Capitol was a treasonous offense. And so these people are getting what they ought to get. You break into the Capitol, you lay siege to the U.S. Capitol, you should go to jail. You should go to prison. You should not be able to run for future office. And if you currently are serving in office, you should no longer be qualified or even allowed to serve in office. Rebecca, I want to stick with you for a moment. Certainly, this is something that people are

thinking about might happen again. We don't know. This is what people across the country are preparing for, legislators, Department of Justice. What are your thoughts about the potential of this happening again in terms of the precautions that are being taken now that we know about the potential? Well, here's the difference. We know going into the certification process, it's going to be before January 20th, which means regardless of what happens on November 5th, we know that the sitting president would be President Joe Biden. The sitting vice president will be Vice President Kamala Harris. And so we also know that those are two competent people who are willing,

ready, and able to call on, to call on, to work with the mayor of D.C., to work with the Department of Defense to make sure there's adequate security and that if there is a mob that is forming that is headed to the U.S. Capitol, they will put a stop to it rather than encourage the crowd, whether the president encourage the crowd to potentially harm and or kill his own vice president. So it's two different scenarios. We are very fortunate as a country that this transition of power, regardless of where it transitions to, it will at least be under the leadership of someone who respects the peaceful transition of power. Joy, do you echo that sentiment and that if it does happen, certainly we have different people that are in power, Or could there be something else that is lurking behind the scenes that we don't know about the same way?

Well, we did know about this. Let's be real. When we talk about what the feds knew, they had insight about this. But what are your thoughts about this happening again and what might potentially happen differently this time around? That's right. I hope that the DOJ is not at all hesitant about getting out in front of any potential insurrection as we go into the certification period or in the early January. This is purely, it is a political matter for sure, but it is really about the law and criminality and undermining democracy. And so we need to be really clear that if you're out there planning something, the FBI is hot on your trail and your neighbors are hot on your trail. Keep in mind, many of these people, they didn't arrest them when they were in D.C.

They actually went back home and their neighbors turned them in. And then they also caught them on camera because, of course, they were seen in full view of everyone. And just in case you forgot, they didn't just ram their way in. They defecated on offices and surfaces within the Capitol. They killed or led to the death of Capitol Police officers. They assaulted them. They took the American flag and used it as a weapon.

And then at the end, they got a chance to walk out and go home because Donald Trump did not make sure that we were protected in the way that we needed to be. If that had been anyone else, if you are a man of color, can you imagine? If you're a woman of color, any race, can you imagine? I'll never, I was a Senate chief. So these were my hallowed grounds, right? This is where I walked.

And I remember watching on TV a woman being escorted down the steps. And I thought if that had been my mother, if that had been me, they certainly wouldn't have treated me so gingerly. These people are criminals. They are thugs. They are people who incited a mob to take over the United States Capitol with the sole goal of one, well, that's two goals, trying to kill Mike Pence. So if you're a Republican, J.D. Vance, any Republican, Donald Trump sought and encouraged

people to, and incited them to seek to kill his vice president. He understood what his words were saying. He understood the meaning, and yet he persisted. He played fast and loose with Mike Pence's life. He could have been killed that day. That's right. This is what we're this is what's at stake. You know, about seven over 700 people, 730 people have pled guilty. You've got over 500 people who have served some type of incarceration on some level. I just want to stay with you for a moment. Is this a sign enough for people to know, let's not even try this?

There have been people who have been appealing this now for years, and they're not coming through as victors on the other side. No, they're losing because we know what they did. It was illegal. I mean, look, I just can't even believe we're still talking about this. The folks who, I mean, you know, I'm glad that I understand why we have to talk about it. But I just cannot believe they're continuing to appeal. Serve those sentences and go home and never do it again. The smartest people have used this as an opportunity and are now talking like, hey, I was on the Capitol on January 6th.

Donald Trump encouraged me to be there. I thought I was serving him. He left me hanging. He's in Mar-a-Lago. And I'm in jail. My family's life has been ruined. Case in point, we're to Rudy Giuliani and the rest so this is this should be a deal breaker and in part because the sole goal besides trying to threaten Mike Pence the other piece was they were trying to undermine the will of the voter so if you went out and voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in 2020 they were seeking to undo your vote. That's what they were seeking to do. Yeah, Rebecca, it seems as though, quite intentionally, Donald Trump is saying this could happen.

He's saying it by not saying that it's not going to happen. What are your thoughts about the potential of something like this happening? This country has to decide how it wants to move forward. Prior to what happened January 6, 2021, the last time we saw such a large-scale insurrection, those folks were able to get houses, jewelry, reparations and all sorts of things after it happened. And I'm talking about I'm talking about the Civil War. So until this country actually deals with this past, like Joy mentioned, if these are

Joyce and people of color, but I'm going to be a little more specific. If this was black men and black women storming the U.S. Capitol, we would have seen black men and black women being slaughtered on national TV, made an example. And so until this country, and I'm not suggesting that we want it to go that way while we're awaiting the count, awaiting the certification, if there is some type of incursion. But I just want to note, if the race of these people were different, the outcome definitely would have been different. Because we know this is America, and with largely white folks then, and there's largely white folks now who are talking about doing something again in January while the count is happening, then this government must make it very clear these people need to face some serious prison time.

They need to be fined, fined in a way where not just them, but their families and maybe their next generations feel that fine. Because these people have to understand that you cannot do this in this country. Otherwise, then that means every single election, every single presidential cycle that we have moving forward can be impacted by potential insurrections. So this country has to decide whether or not we observe and we want the peaceful transition of power. And if people are committing treason, then this country has to decide through its court system how it's going to deal with it in such a way to discourage people from doing this in the future. All right.

Get informed. Stay informed. That is the message, the takeaway, I think the big one from here this evening. I want to thank both of you for being with us today, Rebecca Carruthers and Joy Cheney. Good to see you as always. It was a ladies night tonight. Good time seeing you. Good time seeing you.

Thank you. Yes, indeed. And absolutely. Thank you for all of you who watched this evening. Have a good weekend. Roland Martin will be back tomorrow. And as always, good being with you. You've been watching Roland Martin and Kofi on Candice Kelly.

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