#RolandMartinUnfiltered - #GeorgeFloyd memorial; #AhmaudArbery update; Robert E. Lee statue to come down; COVID-19 disparities
Episode Date: June 9, 20206.4.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: #GeorgeFloyd memorial service; #AhmaudArbery update: Killer allegedly used a racial slur; Robert E. Lee statue to be removed in Virginia; COVID-19 disparities and conce...rns over protests and the virus; Drew Brees' apology for "disrespecting the flag" comment + more crazy a$$ people in Texas and Florida Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered Partner: Ceek Be the first to own the world's first 4D, 360 Audio Headphones and mobile VR Headset. Check it out on www.ceek.com and use the promo code RMVIP2020 - The Roland S. Martin YouTube channel is a news reporting site covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Martin. All right, folks, it has been an extremely busy day all across the country.
Two significant cases that we have been covering.
The George Floyd memorial service, the first one took place in Minneapolis today,
where Attorney Ben Crump and Reverend Alice Sharpton both spoke.
That service was carried all across the country by the broadcast networks.
But the black networks, the target black people, didn't bother to actually air that memorial service.
Now, while that was happening, in Atlanta, there was a hearing, a preliminary hearing taking place in the Ahmaud Arbery case.
We're going to start with
that one today. Folks, shocking, shocking testimony revealed. Happened today. Listen to this right here.
Thank you, sir. The last thing that I think I need to talk to you about, well, last couple things,
this can involve an uncomfortable conversation, and you and I have talked about this a couple times.
Is that correct?
Yes, sir, we have.
You know that I want to ask you about a particular quote that Travis McMichael stated on the crime scene
that was overheard by one of the defendants and shared with investigators prior to police arriving.
Correct? That's correct. Yes, sir. that was overheard by one of the defendants and shared with investigators prior to police arriving, correct?
That's correct, yes, sir.
And though this may be an uncomfortable conversation for the benefit of the court and for the record,
we're making it clear that this is not your quote, it's not the GBI's quote,
this is a quote from a statement of Mr. Bryan as to what he heard Travis McMichael say prior to police arriving, correct?
Very much so, yes, sir. Understanding that and understanding that it might be a little uncomfortable to talk about the words
because it involves a curse word and something else, I need to ask you about that quote.
Can you please articulate for the court what Mr. Bryan said he heard Travis McMichael say
prior to police arriving and after the fatal shooting yes um mr bryan said that after the shooting took place
before police arrival while mr aubrey was on the ground that he heard travis michael make He stood over the body of Ahmaud Arbery and actually called him a nigger.
My pal, Dr. Greg Carr, chair of the Department of Afro-American Studies, Howard University, Erica Savage Wilson, host of Savage Politics podcast, Reesey Colbert, Black Women Views.
Greg, I want to start with you.
A lot of things we heard today that stood out the most.
It's clear this was a hate crime.
They also lied by saying that, oh, he was trying to carjack us.
No evidence thus far.
Lots of revealing testimony today out of Georgia.
Yeah, Roland, of course.
And it's very much consistent with what we see when we start
talking about anti-black violence in this society. We're going to believe me or your
lying eyes, or in this case, me or your lying ears. Of course, of course he called him that.
And the question is, why does William Bryan, why is he so animated in trying to get ahead of this?
We don't know the relationship between the three men, including Bryan.
We don't know if he's angling men, including Brian. We don't know
if he's angling for a deal. But at the end of the day, while it certainly might be shocking
in a general sense, I don't think that any of us who have been black in America and paying
attention were in any way surprised. Erica, again, when you look at what took place today when you heard that particular testimony
as well man it was just just unbelievable and without a doubt it exposes those da's who pursued
nothing who didn't interview anybody when you listen to that this was about his race. Absolutely, Roland, and that it was three DAs
that were too limp to take action.
And thinking about Mr. Bryant,
I think that it is most appropriate
as he is being charged with felony murder,
which carries with it in the state of Georgia,
a penalty of either life in prison without parole
or the death penalty.
So him scrambling to make up some type of excuse or make up some type of conversation
that either was had or wasn't had is really of non-really doesn't matter as for me.
What I'm thinking about is that his car was weaponized.
He was a part of a crime that effectively lynched a 25-year-old man who they made up a story around
with this property owner, Larry English, to say that they felt like he was doing something
suspicious when video shows very plainly that Mr. Arbery wasn't the only person to go on that
construction site and just look around at that house, that there were plenty of white people
and white children that had actually been on that property throughout the day to just see what was going on. And so where my heart is,
is, you know, you're saying it's unbelievable and true that, but definitely not for Black lives and
Black bodies, and that my heart goes out for his mother who had to leave the courtroom because of
all that she'd heard. So this is really hard for the course. And what I think
America is largely seeing is really just how dangerous whiteness is.
Again, it's an all day hearing that lays out the preliminary facts. And it's just,
again, listening to what we, this is not the full case, but listening to this, how in the world could any DA come to the conclusion, no need to make charges, these white DAs were trying to protect these white men for killing, chasing down, and lynching a black man?
That's precisely what it was. It's literally a
modern-day lynching, an
extrajudicial killing
that happened with these
three white men chasing down,
hunting, assaulting
because William Bryan actually hit
Ahmaud Arbery with his car
and then tried to claim he was carjacking him.
No, he was running for his life.
And these other, you know, the McMichaels shot him multiple times,
stood over his body, and called him the N-word.
That is a lynching.
It's a 2020 lynching.
And part of a lynching is that there is no justice in this country of America,
and it has never been that way.
And even today on the Senate floor, Rand Paul is arguing against an anti-lynching bill that
had previously passed multiple times unanimously in the Senate and has passed multiple times
in the House. And you have to have Senator Kamala Harris explain to Rand Paul that even if
somebody's guts are not ripped out, even if the casket is not a closed casket or an open casket in the case of Emmett Till's mother's bravery, it's a lynching.
And she invoked Ahmaud Arbery today.
And it's just absolutely sickening to see the amount of evidence that this is clearly a lynching, a targeted execution of a black man who was doing absolutely nothing to these people.
And they got away with it that is a
tenant of white supremacy a white supremacist government and the system working as designed
which is to protect white men and their ability to hunt down and kill black people without any
kind of consequences uh it's important for us again so much of the attention is on the george
florida case when people have to understand anytime you have video involved that is what is going to get the lion's share
of the attention uh and so that's what you're experiencing here but the fact of the matter is
this here uh this case here is also tied to police and so even though these two individuals were not
police officers one used to work with law enforcement.
This shows you the cover up that exists and also this relationship that exists between law enforcement, such as district attorneys, such as cops there in that in that particular county.
And of course, these two men here. And so we can't overlook that case as well.
Same thing when you talk about what took place in
Breonna Taylor. That case also is being reopened now for the investigation. Has anybody heard from
the black Kentucky attorney general on this case? I'm just curious. Gotcha. But you know, look,
come on. You're a black conservative, but you're the attorney general.
Can you say something?
Of course, same thing there.
Cops not turning their body cameras on.
Here we are two months later, going into the third month,
those officers not at all charged.
We had the Louisville City Council president on
who said that the warrant was issued on January 21st
and the supervisors did not update the warrant two months later.
Had the supervisors simply updated the warrant,
there would have been no need for a no-knock warrant on the home of Breonna Taylor.
Well, Roland, I think this is important.
What you're pointing out is very important to understand two things.
Number one, every white person
in the country is deputy police. When we look at whiteness and its policing dimension, the
police are the official people who wield violence. But a white person dealing with a black person
can become deputy police in this sense. So there's expanded field of violence, certainly
in the South where the slave patrols are the origin of policing. So of course there's going to be an organic relationship.
That's number one. Number two, especially when they were ex-law enforcement, as the case with
the father, but number two, this is very important. Then we had to be careful now because it seems
that there's a normative framework emerging for being able to charge police when it comes to black
death. Do you have a video?
Do you have an audio?
If you don't, then you just take the police's word.
And if you do, we're still going to try to undermine
the credibility of even that type of evidence.
But the most important thing finally to understand
is that as these frameworks of violence operate,
when we start talking about law enforcement,
remember Kenneth Walker, the charges would drop,
but would reserve to represent them. So he isn't out of the woods yet. Remember that all of this,
and you've been making this point, all of this street work, all of this general strike
against the social order is what has caused the pressure that has led to the indictments
in Minnesota and will ultimately lead to the indictments of, in the case of Breonna Taylor.
I'm certain of that.
I was down there today at 16th and H,
and the young people there read a list of names that had stretched over 20 minutes,
and we were all on our knee.
And when Breonna Taylor's name was raised,
the name echoed across and bounced off the White House.
My point is this.
That's what's going to get those police officers charged,
because the field of violence in which they operate is set up to exonerate them.
And can I just interject here, too, because in a Tatiana Jefferson's case, there was, you know, footage.
So that that made the difference between a Tatiana Jefferson versus Breonna Taylor getting justice. And so to your point, Greg, it's really, or Dr. Carr, it's really almost as if it's not caught on camera and broadcast for everybody to be traumatized by this footage, then it gets swept under the rug.
And absolutely. And to Bree and to Dr. Carr's point, this is important for especially white Americans to see that really the burden of proof is almost on black people. So not only are we fighting systemic racism on every front,
but to believe that because something has happened to us,
be it something that was fatal or something that was non-fatal,
that the burden of proof is on the black body.
And that is the bullshit that has to stop.
Folks, today, of course, all the attention was focused on minneapolis a university
there where they had the memorial service for uh george floyd it is the first of three one took
place today there will be another one in north carolina on saturday and then the final resting
place will be at the fountain of praise church in houston texas here is what took place today.
Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God.
It was not the coronavirus pandemic that killed George Floyd. I want to make it clear on the record.
Will Packard, it was that other pandemic that we're far too familiar with in America, that pandemic of racism and discrimination that killed George Floyd. We learned one thing, the Floyd boys like to eat.
And also, they had a conversation with Tyler Perry, and it was pretty profound,
because they said, we are the big extended black family that you portray Will Packard and others on your movie screens,
because we all need one another.
And you can tell this family always needed George.
And so it's awfully difficult for them.
The plea for justice is simply this.
Dr. Martin Luther King said,
he who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.
He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really like cooperating with it.
You know, T.I., on that video, what we saw was torture.
Reverend Jackson, what we saw on that video was inhumane. Martin the third, what we saw on that video was evil. And so America, we
proclaim as we memorialize George Floyd, do not cooperate with evil,
protest against evil, join the young people in the streets
protesting against the evil, the inhumane,
the torture that they witnessed on that video.
We cannot cooperate with evil.
We cannot cooperate with evil. We cannot cooperate with injustice.
We cannot cooperate with torture.
Because George Floyd deserved better than that.
We all deserve better than that.
His family deserved better than that.
His children deserved better than that. His children desire better than that. Steve, all George wanted
from life is what any of us want. As Thomas Jefferson said in the Declaration of independence, the inalienable rights endowed by our creator,
to reach to life, liberty, and the pursuit to be happy on this earth.
That's all George was asking for, like any and all of us.
But he was denied those rights.
And we will seek justice in his name.
We will all unite as a people who are God's children, seek justice in his name. But beyond the specific justice,
in his case, Chris,
the prosecution of the four individuals
who deprived George of his life,
we seek a broader, more transformative justice.
Reverend Allen, more just system of policing.
Kevin, a more just treatment of people of color.
Chris, a more just criminal justice system. In essence, what we are endeavoring to do, Brandon, is what my
personal hero Thurgood Marshall said, make the Constitution real
for all Americans. You see, Justice Marshall said the basis of the Constitution is simply this,
that a black baby born to a black mother, the most uneducated black mother,
the most inarticulate black mother, the most impoverished black mother,
has the same exact rights as a white baby.
Born to a white mother, the most educated white mother,
the most articulate white mother,
tears the most affluent white mother, Taz the most affluent white mother, just by virtue of that baby
drawing its first breath as an American. Now, Justice Marshall said, Reverend Jackson, I
know that's not the case in America today, but I challenge anybody to say, Tony, that
that's not the goal we're fighting for. He said, I challenge anybody to say that's not what makes America the great beacon of hope and justice for all the world to marvel.
So when we fight for the George Floyds of the world, but more importantly, when we fight for the unknown George Floyds of the world,
when we fight for the Trayvon Martins of the world,
when we fight for the Terrence Crutchers of the world,
when we fight for the Michael Browns of the world,
when we fight for the Alton Stirlings of the world,
when we fight for the Philando Castiles of the world,
when we fight for the Jamal Clocks of the world,
when we fight for the Eric Garner's of the world,
when we fight for the Sandra Bland's of the world, when we fight for the Maia Opry's of the world, when we fight for the Eric Garner's of the world, when we fight for the Sandra Bland's of the world, when we fight for the Maia Aubrey's of the world, when we fight for the Breonna Taylor's of the world, when we fight for the Natasha McKinney's of the world, when we fight for the Stephon Clark's of the world, when we fight for the least of these, what we are really doing is helping America
live up to its creed.
What we are really doing is helping America
be the great beacon of hope and justice
for all the world to marvel.
But most importantly, brothers and sisters,
what we are doing is helping America be one for white America.
What we endeavor to achieve is equal justice for the United States of America. And George Floyd is the moment that gives us the best opportunity I have seen in a long time of reaching that high idea that this country was founded on.
Thank you so much.
This is the plea for justice.
On behalf of the family, the children, we will get justice.
We are committed to it.
I want us to not sit here and act like we had a funeral on the schedule.
George Floyd should not be
among the deceased.
He did not die
of common health conditions.
He died of a common
American criminal justice malfunction. George Floyd's story has been
the story of black folks because ever since 401 years ago, the reason we could never be who we wanted and dreamed of being
is you kept your knee on our neck.
We were smarter than the underfunded schools you put us in,
but you had your knee on our neck.
We could run corporations and not hustle in the street, but you had your knee on our neck.
We had creative skills.
We could do whatever anybody else could do, but we couldn't get your knee off our neck. What happened to Floyd happens every day
in this country in education, in health services,
and in every area of American life.
It's time for us to stand up in George's name
and say, get your knee off our necks.
All right, folks.
That was, again, the first of three.
The most important thing I think we heard today
is what Ben Crump said, Erica, and that is
this is not about another death, another settlement for the family,
another moment where we are, you know, sad for them and the city writes a check and then
maybe whatever happens to the cop move on.
No.
I keep arguing why this is different.
It's because there has to be systematic change
that now happens.
I said this on ABC News last night.
On local, state, local, on city, county, state, and the national level to deal with police reform,
period. Absolutely, Roland. And now people are looking more intently at who their mayors are,
because mayors have oversight over the police department. For those who just thought that this was going to
be a moment where it was kind of the same thing that they were accustomed to seeing,
that this would be something that would just kind of die down after a couple of days,
hell no. People are looking at budgets. People are looking at those folks that are in leadership
because the bottom line is, is that folks that are elected to office at every level,
those levels you called out,
the local and the state level especially,
and then moving on to the federal level,
but especially intimately involved in our daily lives,
those people have a responsibility to the people
that elected them into office.
And so when those lines are finally now now I believe, largely being connected,
people are looking at their mayors
and have questions for their mayors.
People are looking at their city and county commissioners,
and they have questions for those folks, and rightfully so.
So this is, again, not just a one or two or three day event.
This is a moment, and those people who have not been accountable to the public, those people who have abused their power, those people who are solicitor generals, attorneys generals, those folks that are district attorneys that have not done their due diligence, they have an accounting.
And that reckoning is happening today.
Greg Carr, again, gathering, mourning, protesting is one thing, but mobilizing and organizing people
to do the hard work of going to every city council, every county government, state legislature,
and the federal government to put into place changes, laws.
That is what has to follow.
You take the momentum and the power
of what's happening on the streets,
and it must be translated into actual change.
I'm going to be very delicate about this, Roland,
because today's ritual was powerful.
It was moving. and I'm sure the
ones in North Carolina and Houston will be as well. So this isn't about that, what I'm
about to say next. I caution my students for 20 years not to lump Al Sharpton and Jesse
Jackson together because they're both charismatic, they're both incredible speakers, and they
both have a commitment to our people.
Jesse Jackson emerged out of a leadership structure where there was a tension between SCLC and the kind of minister-driven leadership and that of the Student Now Violent Coordinating Committee, the kind of consensus-driven collective movement.
Jackson kind of straddled the fence a bit, when we see the Rainbow Coalition fueled by the political logic of Ron Walters and others, the idea of Black politics was to marshal from the ground up local leadership to do exactly what Erica just said. And the Jackson campaigns of 84 and 88 brought many of those
local organizers into a structure that allowed them to move into elected officials' positions
and allowed them to bring people in. People say, does Jesse want to run for president?
Why does he want to be president?
Yeah.
Y'all want to be president.
But if you come vote for me, you're going to vote down ballot.
And it was that phenomenon that really built that black political power.
And I want to contrast that with Al Sharpton a little bit.
Al Sharpton is no less committed to black people, but Al Sharpton's model is different.
And what we saw today with Sharpton, Ben Crump, and others, let me start with Crump.
Crump exhibits a rather underdeveloped understanding of the American state.
Those young people in the streets, that multiracial coalition that's out there moving now, have
no connection to the kind of Ben Crump narrative, You know, America is the beacon of the world.
That's a tired, failed paradigm at this point.
And Ben Crump, as adroit as he is at representing the families of victims of police murder,
re-inscribing the idea by contrasting the black illiterate with the white well-educated,
it's a failed paradigm.
And when Al Sharpton gets up and calls for a march on
Washington in August, when there's a poor people's campaign already that had to go online for June
20th, and all these young people in the street, again, not connected, we're looking at a moment
when we might not knit together that momentum. Finally, this. We're in the middle of a pandemic,
brother. As moving as that ritual was, I was horrified to see sitting shoulder to shoulder, many
with no masks, the choir with no masks, many people sitting out there with no masks, the
celebrities like Kevin Hart with no masks, we can't breathe.
And it isn't always because of a cop's knee on your neck.
It's a pandemic.
We've got to get out of the business of using these rituals to launch these individual-centered aspirational moments.
Because these young people are in the street and ain't going to listen to any of us who are going to try to channel this back into the failed paradigm of race leadership as opposed to collective leadership.
Racy. opposed to collective leadership. Recy.
Yeah, that's Dr. Carr, you know, always
I'm sorry I had you come up
and come behind Dr. Carr on that one, Recy.
That's so unfair.
That is so unfair.
But, you know,
I can't follow that,
but what I will say is
I agree with the, in terms of the, I don't want to use the word race leader. No shade to you, Dr. Carr. I respect everything you have to say, but we together in people's own individual ways or different organizational different ways.
And I think that we are starting to see that emerge with specific actionable things.
You know, you do have the defense, the defund the police movement, which does have specific actionable things that they're calling for, like, you know, eliminating paid administrative leave for cops who kill people or, you know, pensions and things of that nature. And then you have the
eight can't wait, you know, campaign zero movement, which has very specific actionable
things as well that, you know, according to their information shows that 72 percent of
police violence will be decreased if they put these eight measures in place immediately.
And so I don't think that there is anybody with
the capacity to harness all these individual collectives into a movement that will have one
vision and one set of principles that they're going to try to put in place. But I do think that
at least we do see very specific measures being put in place. And we do see a lot of support
starting to galvanize behind that. And I just want to caution people to not denigrate the other
movements, whether you're, if you're a defund police, that doesn't mean you have to be anti
can't wait. If you're a can't wait, doesn't mean that you have to be anti defund police.
It's not a competition. We need an all hands on deck approach. And so that's,
that's
kind of where I'm going with it in terms of how do we actually get something out of it. It's not that we don't have a silver bullet, but there are specific things that can be done
to reduce the specific issue of police violence and institutionalized racism in the criminal
justice system. We still have a long way to go before we deal with the white supremacy in our
society and the people self-deputizing themselves as self-slave patrols and
things of that nature.
But we can make some progress on the issue of police reform.
All right.
Some of y'all are commenting on social media.
Y'all heard,
y'all heard audio there with spiders like get the F out of here while Reese
was talking.
And that was like, get the F out of here while Reese was talking. And that was an
open file looking
at pulling up some video.
And so that's what you heard. So y'all calm
down. It wasn't directly at Reese.
It was an open file. I'm trying to pull some video
up on the iPad.
I wouldn't take it personal.
First of all, we know
you and the F word have a very close relationship.
So you ain't got no problem with that word at all.
So let me, before I go to Congressman Al Green real quick,
this is what I'm looking at,
and I think really what Greg was talking about.
And that is, this is not,
first of all, there are multiple ways, and the piece that people misunderstand is that
you get the big six civil rights leaders during the 1950s and 60s, but the reality is you
had numerous people who were on the local ground.
Ella Baker, arguably one of the greatest organizers in American history, always said she believed that it was pew to pulpit and not pulpit to pew.
In Barbara Ransby's book, she talked about where she and Dr. King
disagreed was that King believed it was pulpit to pew.
Pulpit leads pew.
But she said, no, pew leads pulpit.
The issue, and so for Ella Baker, when she went into places,
she connected first with local leaders on the ground to say, okay, who is already doing the
work in Birmingham, in Montgomery, in Selma, in Baltimore, in these different places,
and how can we assist you? So that was her framework, which I absolutely believe the way it is.
But I believe the point that Doc is talking about
is also where I stand, and that is, this is very simple.
There are massive protests happening around the country,
which I absolutely fundamentally support.
I believe you have to have a show of force.
People care.
What then
happens is
what happens the next day.
Data collection.
Who's here?
Names, phone numbers,
emails. Because
when it's
time to go before the city council, when it's time to go
before the school board, when it's time to put the pressure on the state legislature, when it's time
to put the pressure on the county government, when it's time to deal with who governs the sheriffs
and the constables and the school resource officers and the city police officers
and then also on the state level.
Then you've got to be able
to move people like pieces on a chessboard.
And that you'd have to do that
without the benefit of a mass march.
Because what people keep forgetting
is that the civil rights leaders presented John F Kennedy
with a massive civil rights bill in 1961 he gets assassinated November 22nd 1963 1963. President Lyndon Baines Johnson agrees
with the entire civil rights
bill, but he then says
I can't pass it
all at one time.
So, civil rights
64, public accommodation,
voting rights act in 65,
68
Fair Housing Act.
That was a five- year process. But he understood how
you have to get it done. And that was just the federal level. We're not even talking
about state county city. So, Greg, really where we are is that those who have infrastructure must now go,
okay, what's our plan of action?
And to all of y'all who are in Portland,
in Seattle, in Minneapolis,
in New York City, in Houston,
in Huntsville, in Birmingham,
all these different places,
how are now we going to begin to organize
and mobilize all these pieces?
So, and I get the connection
with the March on Washington anniversary,
but Congress is not in session on August 28th.
So now it's, okay, how can we now move people to,
your point, Recy, campaign zero, bail project, this, this, this,
because you've got to send people to organizations to now do the work, Greg.
Brother, Roland, I appreciate that.
And, Recy, I'm with you.
I mean, we have to have coalition politics.
The idea of charismatic leadership has never worked.
As Brother Sturley Carmichael, Kwame Turei, used to say,
if you put Martin Luther King in Montgomery by himself, he will be killed.
It was the women washing clothes in them white women's houses that struck,
that kept staying off the bus that did that.
It was E.D. Nixon and the Old Brotherhood Sleeping Car Porters Coalition.
It was, of course, the Selma voter, the Dallas County Voter Rights League.
We started talking about the formation there.
So again, Al Sharpton is an important figure.
And I'm certainly not here to beat up Al Sharpton, because I'm old enough to remember.
And I watched those kids out there in the street today named Eleanor Bumpers, named
Michael Stewart, named those victims of the New York Police Department
when Al Sharpton himself was on the outside looking in.
But when you get absorbed into a structure
that requires you to come in,
but tries to keep everybody else that you represent out,
you end up in a position
where you become a representative type.
There is no need for a March on Washington in August
that does not incorporate to the point that you're raising.
All the momentum of what's going on right now
and what we've witnessed over these years
is that everybody wants to have their own kind of
clientele constituent assembly
to create their organization.
This is why the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee
was created.
I'm so glad, Roland, you mentioned Ella Jo Baker
and talked about her and Barbara Ransby's book,
because remember, the SCLC, NAACP, and others
wanted those young people to join their youth divisions.
And it was Ella Jo Baker that said,
no, this must be driven by your initiative
and I will not lead you.
That's why they called her Fundy.
If you talk to the NJC, the Joyce Landier, Bob Moses, any of them, they'll tell you, we loved Ella Baker, because Ella Baker said this movement must be driven I will not lead you. That's why they called her Fundy. She actually busted.
They'll tell you, we loved Ella Baker,
because Ella Baker said this movement must be driven by you in coalition with everyone else,
and I'm not going to lead you either.
Well, in fact...
Coalition is the only way we make progress.
As Razby reported, there was a meeting
at the president's house at Shaw University
with Wyatt T. Walker and Dr. King to actually do that
because the SCLC gave $500 to put the conference on,
and she busted into the meeting uninvited and said, no, y'all ain't doing what y'all planning.
Y'all need to read that book. To that point, before I bring on my next guest, at 8 p.m. tonight,
after we go off, folks, we're then going to restart a Zoom with the National CARES Mentoring
Project. Susan Taylor, go to my iPad, please. And so this is called, let me increase it here,
exactly what we're talking about,
strategies for justice, wise words and taking action.
I'll be moderating, Tamika Mallory, David Johns,
Ryan Haygood, there'll be an opening prayer
by Dr. Bernice A. King.
The whole point is for us to begin
to talk about strategies.
We have anger.
We have righteous indignation.
But now we must take that and then attach strategy to it,
which is bringing us to my next guest.
That is, what will Congress be doing?
Joining me right now is Congressman Al Green of
Texas. Congressman, you're there from Houston. George Floyd, of course, is from our native
Houston, which is the same high school I did, Jack Gates High School. Congressman Hakeem Jeffries
is putting together a massive police accountability bill. Joe Biden mentioned that in his speech the
other day. That's the role of Congress when it
comes to coming up with legislation to deal with a police accountability. Give us a sense of what
you want to see get done on the federal level in that particular bill or other bills.
Well, thank you very much. And I want to thank your guests and you for the history lesson. It was nice to take a walk down memory lane.
I'm 72 years old and much of what you have spoken of I have lived and witnessed. And I'm going to
answer your question but give me one privilege please. Go right ahead. We all remember that
conversation black men that you have with your parents about how you are to behave in the presence of white women.
I remember the conversation quite vividly.
My mother made it very clear to me, perspicuously so, that you should never be alone with a white woman. have video that we need to add to the conversation so that little black boys will understand
not only what their mothers say, but what they can see on the video that happened in Central Park
with Mr. Christian Cooper. That video is something every parent ought to save and present to children.
As a matter of fact, I don't think you can see it too much.
I think it ought to be played and replayed
because Ms. Cooper knew exactly what to say
and how to say it so as to cause the person
who was on the other end of that phone
to react in a very hostile way if he arrived on the scene.
I thank God that Mr. Cooper, Christian Cooper, is still alive
because it could easily have ended in another way.
So thank you for having me on.
Now, to answer your question,
I think that we cannot continue to silo these issues
such that we deal with one issue and then another and another. It is obvious that it is
systemic and it's institutionalized. And I think we have to take a more lofty approach to it. Yes,
we have to concern ourselves with the policing. We also have to concern ourselves with housing,
education, environment. The list goes on and on because it is so pervasive, this racism that we
have to contend with. I am proposing a bill that would incorporate what I saw in the spirit of
Lyndon Johnson that you mentioned. He called for a war on poverty, and we spent trillions on that
war. And anybody who says it was a total failure,
I would take issue with because we did get out of that war, Medicare, Medicaid, Head Start,
expanded Social Security. We need to declare a war on racism and invidious discrimination.
We need a cabinet level department, just as we have the Department of Labor, we should have a department that deals with the
reconciliation that's never taken place.
In this country, we survived slavery, but we didn't reconcile.
We survived segregation, but we didn't reconcile.
I'm calling for a cabinet that will be available to us, a cabinet secretary, a secretary of
reconciliation, whose job it will be to develop a strategy and implement the strategy.
And this will not be antithetical to any of the other things that are taking place.
I think all of these other things can complement what we're trying to do legislatively. But to implement this strategy and to come to Congress on a semi-annual basis and give us the
progress being made on implementing the strategy to eliminate racism and invidious discrimination,
I don't want to manage it. I don't want to curtail it. I want to fight to end it. I think this bill would do so.
I'm working on the bill.
I have a resolution currently that calls for this bill.
It's been signed by several members of Congress.
But as you know, dear brother, I am a liberated Democrat.
I speak truth to power and about power.
I see myself in the vein of Shirley Chisholm, the woman who said, unbought and unbossed.
So, uh, a liberated Democrat has an uphill fight
when it comes to this kind of legislation.
But I plan to take that fight to the hill
because I think it's a fight worth fighting.
We need a cabinet secretary.
But you also need the people to be mobilized and organized
to put pressure on the members of Congress if you talk about a police accountability bill. You also need the people to be mobilized and organized
to put pressure on the members of Congress
if you talk about a police accountability bill.
Again, you can have folks out in the streets today,
but if you have nobody knocking on doors
in the halls of Congress tomorrow,
then you lose the advantage.
I do not differ with you one sc centilla. Absolutely. The people always make
a difference. This is why I'm on your program, to call to the attention of the people some of
the needs that we have. I believe in police accountability. I think we can accomplish that
in many ways if we can pass the legislation. So I'm pushing for legislation, but the legislation has to be pushed by people.
I do not deny it.
So I'm appealing to people, all of the various interest groups.
Let's get behind a notion of having a cabinet-level position.
Got it.
Cabinet position.
Right there where the president sits at the table, we have somebody at the table.
Listen, this is not a panacea,
but it does put us in the White House all the time.
And I would say to you, we ought to fight and lobby
to make sure that we get someone who has an understanding
of what you have been saying here tonight
in that position as their secretary.
This is where the people will come in.
They will demand, hopefully, in ways that will be very moving and forceful, that we have a cabinet secretary that can relate to the things that you have been talking about.
It's not going to be a charismatic leader. It's going to be a very understanding, a very intellectually prowess person who can comprehend what needs to be done and then build
the strategy around getting it implemented. Not going to be easy, but at least we'll be moving in
the right direction. In the history of this country, we've never had a reconciliation committee.
Other countries have had them, but we have not. So this is a step in that direction.
Congressman Al Green, we really appreciate it. Thanks a bunch.
Thank you, Bill.
All right, folks. In a moment, we're going to talk about what's taking place.
Remember, yesterday we talked to Randall Woodfin, who is the mayor of Birmingham. They took down
that massive Confederate statue in Lynn Park. Now you've got a lot of white folks who are really,
really, really upset, not happy at all w governor route Northam an
Robert E lee statue is go
and put in storage as soon
see the photo right there
Um uh statue. Now you rem
had uh the previous march
march around and they rall around these particular statues.
Well, today at a news conference, no one of them made it perfectly clear it's got to go.
The message that this sends to people coming from around the world to visit the capital city of one of the largest states in our country,
or to young children. What do you say when
a six-year-old African-American little girl looks you in the eye and says,
what does this big statue mean? Why is it here? When a young child looks up and sees something that big and prominent, she knows that it must be important.
And when it's the biggest thing around, it sends a clear message.
This is what we value the most.
But that's just not true anymore.
You see, in Virginia, we no longer preach a false version of history, one that pretends the
Civil War was about state rights and not the evils of slavery. No one believes that any longer.
And in 2020, we can no longer honor a system that was based on the buying and selling of enslaved people
not in 2020 so I want us all to tell that little girl the truth yes that
statue has been there for a long time but it was wrong then and it is wrong
now so we're taking it down folks and we're seeing this all across the country But it was wrong then and it is wrong now.
So we're taking it down.
Folks and we're seeing this all across the country in a moment.
We talked to Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, Justin Fairfax.
Greg was interesting about this is that you're seeing this connection now.
You're seeing where folks are connecting police brutality, whiteness in those spaces, you're seeing what's
happening in terms of these Confederate statues.
I keep telling people this thing is different.
People are going, no, no, no, no, no.
We can't sit here and play games anymore.
Y'all got to take white supremacy down.
And the reason they target the symbols,
which is also why we talk about this Drew Brees conversation,
to his point, Mr. Blackface, I ain't forgot.
Let's be real clear.
Hello.
The symbols, the symbols matter
because America loves to rally around its symbols.
White America does.
I guess black America does too. I never forget when they
put Arthur Ashe on Monument Avenue from the torso up or his legs up and he didn't even get a full
statue. But Robert E. Lee is the statue that's on public land. That's why Ralph Norton can do that
because the Virginia law enables him to have the sole authority to move it. It was also erected in
1890, the only one in the 19th
century. However, let's not forget that it was the United Daughters of the Confederacy
who moved in a panic because the flood overwashed their little headquarters last week in Richmond,
who also then moved to subsidize the Stonewall Jackson Monument that's on Monument Avenue.
The Robert E. Lee, not just, the Jefferson
Davis, the president of the Confederate States of America. And the second monument after
Robert E. Lee was the Jeb Stuart monument. These are domestic terrorists. These are traitors
to the America that Ben Crump apparently thinks is the beacon of light to the world. I'd like
to give that good brother a couple of books and then perhaps walk him through them. But if you've got those statues in an American city,
you have embraced traitors to the United States of America.
So I'm glad they're starting with Robert E. Lee,
but Jeb Stuart, Jefferson Davis,
Stonewall Jackson gotta come down.
And if taking Frank Rizzo down in Philly,
and I loved that last night with Brother Wolfen,
taking down that monument in Birmingham is any indication it's not happening because of politicians.
I'm glad Justin is coming on so we can have a conversation with the lieutenant governor.
But make no mistake about it, Brother Fairfax is in a position to be able to exert pressure to do that
because everybody's in the street now, and they are using these monuments to try to build a temporary levee
to stop this flood that's going to overwash them,
called the general strike against this existing social order. Your point has been to point out a law. It's the streets that are making these people do this. Let's go right to Lieutenant
Governor, Justice Fairfax of Virginia. So, Lieutenant Governor, glad to have you back
in Roland Martin Unfiltered. Thanks so much, Brother Roland. Always great to be with you
and your wonderful panel. This decision by the governor, how did he come to this conclusion?
You know, as the governor announced today, and I was with him down in Richmond,
really on a historic day for Virginia and for the nation,
that it's now time for us to move into the next 400 years of Virginia history
and of American history, that we have to finally tell the truth about who
we are as a commonwealth and as a country, that we have to tell the truth about slavery and
oppression and Jim Crow and massive resistance and all those evolving systems that have kept
African-Americans in particular in a state and a condition that is represented by the Lee statue and so many other statues,
the denial of rights, the denial of economic opportunity.
And, you know, what I said is that today taking the Lee statue down and any other statues,
Confederate statues that will come down, was really just a down payment on a much larger amount of work
that we have to do to unravel and defeat the systems of oppression that have
oppressed black and brown people here in this nation for now 400 years, beginning in Virginia.
So we have living monuments to the Confederacy and to slavery and to segregation. Those living
monuments are the schools that are substandard in black communities where kids are going and not
being given the opportunity to get a high quality education where the buildings are falling down.
They are our health care system, which is broken and have negative health outcomes disproportionately for black and brown people.
It's our broken criminal justice system. And you know that we did a justice summit recently and have some solutions, legislative and others coming out of that,
where black people are overrepresented in our prison system by three
and three and a half times when you look at juveniles and adults. So those are the living
monuments to the Confederacy and to the history of oppression that then hand down that oppression
from generation to generation to generation. So these monuments need to go. The symbols are
important, but so are the living monuments that make the oppression real every single day.
And I'm committed to making sure we do that work in Virginia.
2020 is the first year of the next 400 years in America.
And so we can write a new chapter and a new narrative.
And I was out there with the protesters, making sure that their voices were heard, that they stayed safe.
They were fired upon, as you may have seen, with tear gas,
and I thought that was horrific by the Richmond Police Department and the mayor of Richmond and
the Richmond PD apologized. But I went down the next night because I thought that that should
never happen. So I stood in the middle and I said, if you're going to fire tear gas at them,
you better fire at me first. And so they didn't do it. And I marched with them that night. And
now we have
changed. The thing that stands out that again, that I'm seeing the Frank Rizzo statue removed
in Philadelphia, the Confederate, two Confederate statues in Birmingham, what's happening, what's
happening there in Virginia. First of all, what is the timeline? When is it going to be removed?
I will be removed pretty soon. There's not a date certain set. What, a week, two weeks, a month?
You know, look, I don't want to put a date on it when there's not a date certain.
But here's what I will say.
I think in the relatively near future, the governor issued the order today.
It's already had the agency designing plans right now to take down the statue.
The bronze portion, which is the large horse at the top, if you've seen this massive statue of Robert E. Lee,
will be taken down first and put in a warehouse. And then there are going to be discussions about
what to do with the pedestal, with the base of it, whether or not to demolish it altogether,
to repurpose it for something that represents something different about who we are in
Virginia. But it will be done in a swift fashion. And again, I think you're starting to see that happening all around
the Commonwealth of Virginia. But this was on state-owned property within Richmond city limits.
And so the governor made that bold decision, which I support. And today we announced what I
think is going to set off a lot of activity around the country about telling the truth about what our
history is, but also a different narrative about who we are going to be going forward.
It final question here, and that is statues is one thing, but also policies. Another
when it comes to what you see people calling for use of force, you have any plans to introduce
anything to change Virginia state police when it comes to use
of force uh dealing with some of these issues folks are talking about these local police
departments with bill of rights things along those lines uh how is virginia going to reform
its police departments yes uh we absolutely have to make sure that we're implementing policies
legislation and substantive policy changes to deal with these issues around police brutality in Virginia and around the country.
So reexamining the use of force policies for each of our various law enforcement agencies.
And you'll recall we have the state police. We have our Capitol Police.
We have jurisdictions all around Commonwealth counties and cities and towns that have their own police forces.
So they all should be reviewing their own use of force policies.
We also need civilian review boards statewide so that when force that is excessive is alleged,
that the citizenry can actually participate in that process and also hold officers accountable.
What we saw in Minneapolis with the former officer now who murdered George
Floyd in cold blood, he had had reportedly up to 17 complaints prior to this deadly, horrific
incident. So, you know, there needs to be accountability from the citizenry. We also
need to implement things like body cameras for all of our law enforcement agencies. We need to
have certification and training that is standard so that every law enforcement officer meets a certain level
of training that they've done. And we need to be able to track officers who engage in excessive
force so that they can't simply do that in one city or one town, get fired or disciplined and
move over to the next city or
next town and begin to do the exact same thing when they're hired under a different force. So
there are some really concrete and specific proposals that we need to begin to implement
here. We'll be back in our session legislatively in January of next year. And there will be,
I know, a lot of legislation put forward and voted on to change the laws here with regard to policing.
But as you, Roland, have pointed out so many times, this is such a critical issue.
It's been brought to the fore by all the recent activity that we've seen.
But this is a broad conversation around racism.
This is one manifestation of it because Ahmed Arbery was murdered by people who were not police officers.
Obviously, one used to be in law enforcement, but he was murdered by vigilantes and lynched on the street in Georgia, hunted down like prey.
Breonna Taylor, obviously, as a result of the police killing her while she's sleeping,
an EMT in her house. Tamir Rice. So many of the issues go on and on and on,
not to mention in a park in New York City where someone made a false
allegation against a man, Christian Cooper, and had that not been filmed, we could have
been talking about another hashtag and a life taken by something that should never have
happened.
So this all goes to, you know, the heart of racism, which, again, 400 years ago, first
enslaved Africans were brought here to the Commonwealth of Virginia, forced to land in Hampton Point Comfort.
And we have been living with the legacy of that slavery in one form or another for 400 years.
So 2020, again, is the first year of the next 400 years.
And we've got to write a different story, a different chapter in American history.
And I think what we've done today is a significant start to that, but it's only a down payment.
Policies and laws need to change.
They will change here in Virginia and hopefully around the nation.
All right, Lieutenant Governor, Justin Fairfax of Virginia, we appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
God bless you all.
Thank you.
Folks, last weekend, to Greg's point, some 20,000 people, new cases of COVID-19 in this country.
Now we've been seeing hundreds of thousands of protesters across the country out there, not social distancing, packed in very close quarters, raising new concerns about the spread of coronavirus.
In a moment, I'm going to talk to you, Kimberly been torn the last couple of days because, look, in a normal world,
I'll be headed to Houston on Sunday to cover the marches as well as the events for George Floyd.
We went to the same high school.
It's in Houston.
The church that his funeral is going to be at, my parents were members of that particular church.
I know the pastor and his wife very well.
But I'm sitting there going, that means getting on a plane.
That means getting a rental car.
That means being around lots of different people.
And to Greg's point, when I saw that funeral today,
man, I saw folk not wearing masks,
not wearing gloves,
hugging, kissing,
sitting next to each other.
And I'm sitting there going, and so,
I mean, and I text, and look, I text a number of people,
fellow journalists and others, and I text, and look, I text a number of people, fellow journalists and others,
and I had some other folks who were like, hey, Ro, you're the only host of your show.
You can't get sick.
We need you exactly where you are.
And this thing is just real in terms of this, and we know for 33 black preachers and bishops have died,
funerals have been incubators
for coronavirus roland i thought about us last weekend man your nephew solomon my nephew uh
ellington these two brothers know each other since they were little boys i had that boy in my in my
hands as a baby both them boys came out of walnut ridge high school last weekend and neither one of
us was there that's heartbroken yep that heartbreaking. And that's a moment of celebration,
to not be able to mourn. You got the last interview with our dear brother, Conrad Rowell.
I'd be normally getting ready to go to Chicago for the ritual, but we won't be able to do
it.
Roland, I'm telling you, man, these young people, they're not social distancing. They
were masked up, but in front of 16th and H, this afternoon,
about two o'clock, when they met up,
the two big streams before they did the die-in,
the two young brothers who were in the front
and the sisters who were beside them in the front
embraced when they converged, and I winced.
They're strong.
I'm 55 years old.
I'm at a distance with my mask and gloves on,
but I understand that this could have profound implications,
but not only them, but everybody who lives in their household.
And it's multiracial.
It was every social and economic class.
It was every race.
And then they're going somewhere to sleep.
They're going home.
Roland, we are in uncharted territory, man.
And getting together in a church,
I know this was important, but maybe they should have had it
outside instead of the University of Central Minnesota. Maybe it should have been
somewhere other than that church. There's not a logic for this at this point that I can see.
And Greg, you just mentioned that. Go ahead and take my iPad, please. And so you mentioned your
nephew and my nephew both graduated last week. And so that's the photo of the both of them.
So we want to go ahead and give them a shout out there.
Let's go to Kimberly Butler Willis.
She's director of the Ryan White.
Okay, they're getting her sound together.
Y'all let me know when she's there and Dr. Underwood are both there.
Recy, look, this is real.
And I mean, look, I appreciate what I'm seeing with the protests out there,
but we have, and look, people are putting their lives on the line
out there protesting, being in close contact.
That's real.
But we also have to think about that.
And same thing, look, I get Reverend Sharpton and them talking about
a march in Washington on August 28th.
I don't know about putting a bunch of black folks on buses
and planes and coming for a march
in Washington. I mean, that's just
we got to be real about this.
We do.
And I was watching the
memorial and I just had this irrational
like just hope
that maybe
you know, enough
people have on masks,
or maybe it's not as bad as what this data unequivocally tells us is bad,
because people really have this cathartic need to release and to be together and to protest.
And it's completely rational for that need
and for them to express that need in the way that we see.
But it's also terrifying to see the great dangers
that people are putting themselves in.
And to Dr. Gregg's point,
Cara's point, we're in uncharted territory.
We have a pandemic and massive uprisings.
And in a week from now, we will see what the situation is. But, I mean, I can't help but go back and forth between this
just irrational hope that maybe it just won't be as bad. And so I'm glad you have these experts on
the panel tonight. But I'm torn like you all are because I would love to be out there.
I was out there protesting the Brett Kavanaugh.
Um, that was the last real big march
that we had out here in D.C. area.
And, um...
But this pandemic just really makes me take pause
and be torn.
Erica.
Yeah, and thinking about all of this, I'm just reminded I've been working from home from now for about 14 weeks.
And early on lost the first of one of my dear friends, Femi Anderson, from COVID-19.
And her, lost her in late March.
And her wanted to immediately go to a funeral because that's a dear sister and was a dear friend of mine,
but was constrained. I had to push past emotion and watched her funeral live stream the day after my birthday on April the 4th. And so I understand really people wanting to get out and to make their
voices heard and to make their voices known. And it really is a real thing for the black community that even though we are in,
as Dr. Carr said, uncharted territories, that there are always these life and death decisions
that our community is forced to make sometimes on a daily basis. And so I get it. I understand it.
I think that kind of moving forward, that's one thing that really needs to be taken into conversation, like with the experts
that you're gonna have on today,
because Dr. Carr mentioned this as well,
talking about the Reverend Dr. William Barber
and the whole Poor People's Campaign
that they've been planning for well a year in advance
that they are holding virtually.
And so hopefully that there will be people that have expertise that are able to get to the folks
that are organizing this march
that Reverend Sharpton announced
to just do it in a different way
because Congress, at least the House side,
is not in session.
They're not there now.
And so those are things
that really just have to be considered
in galvanizing the heart of the people.
We want to pull up right now. Kimberly Butler-Willis, she's the director, the Ryan White Wellness Center and managing director of Good Stock Consulting.
Glad to have you on the show. Also joining us right now is Dr. Janice Underwood, chief diversity, equity and inclusion officer for the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Dr. Underwood, I'll start with you. We saw 20,000 new cases last week of COVID-19.
March is taking place.
We saw the funeral today for George Floyd.
Mmm, I didn't see social distancing being practiced.
Not everybody wearing masks as well.
That is of concern that to have hundreds of thousands
of people protesting could very well lead to a dramatic spike in COVID-19
in cities across the country.
Do you share the same concern?
I not only share the same concern, Roland.
I know that we are in a pandemic
that is disproportionately killing Black, Brown, and Native lives
at alarming rates.
The issue, though, however, is that there has been a public health crisis that have been killing black, brown and native lives for the
last 400 years. And so I think what people are saying is that we realize that we're a pandemic,
but so many people are fed up and tired of a knee on their neck. And they want their voices heard.
And so I'm excited about the work we're doing in Virginia to address both public health crises.
Dr. Willis, are you there?
I'm here. I'm struggling with my tech, but I am here.
All right. We can work with you on that one.
And that very simple
you're an expert there in public health again what what what must be done for us to properly
deal with this issue because yeah we are being disproportionately impacted and i totally get
folks wanting to be out there and like i made the point before y'all came on you know look i'm from
houston i will be covering the george flor funeral. I'm choosing not to go scared to death because, again, you're going to be having people.
I'm from there. Folks going to be hugging. You're not going to again, not necessarily spread out.
I mean, that's an issue. And we've seen churches be incubators for COVID-19.
Absolutely. You know, Roland, it's funny that you say that. I had my best friend, she lost someone in her family. So we went to comfort her and we found out that the preacher who led that traumatic experiences that we're all going through. So I say, proceed with caution. We all
have good sense and we know exactly when we should be in crowds, when we should not be in crowds. I
think we've been giving good directives about keeping it between 10 and below and quarantining
as they're calling it. So on
people that you know have
seen healthy choices that
as well. So I'm using goo
I know we all have, but a
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of these relaxed re entry
since implemented startin
from each one of my panel. I'll first start with Resee Colbert.
Resee, what's your question for Dr. Underwood and Dr. Willis?
Thank you, ladies, for our doctors for joining the panel.
My question is, how do we break through
in terms of people at least understanding
how to wear a mask properly?
I saw so many people today at the memorial service who had their mask, you know, below their nose,
under, you know, basically falling off their face.
How do we break through to people
the importance of really making sure
that if you are going to be out and you do have a mask,
that you need to wear the mask properly
the entire time that you are vulnerable
or susceptible to any kind of transmission?
Is this it? Is this it? Where it covers your nose and it goes down to your chin? Is that it?
Yes, that is it. And this is the best, this is a favorite conversation for our medical director,
Dr. Ebony Hilton. She is persistent and relentless about wearing PPE as it should be worn. And you want to make sure that
you're covering the nose and the mouth because remember COVID is transmitted by respiratory
droplets. It's an aerosol disease. So you want to make sure that you're keeping all of those
airways closed so that you're being as safe and cautious as possible. And Dr. Underwood,
I'll toss to you for any other advice you would offer.
Yeah, I think that it's important, though, that we understand that this is new for all of us.
Just like this is a novel coronavirus, it is also very important that we understand that these are new ideas of wearing a mask in public.
There are even books, laws on the books that suggest in Virginia that we're not allowed to wear masks to cover our face. And so as we socialize into reopening, we have to use
these measures to protect lives and livelihoods. So one of the things that the Health Equity Task
Force of the Virginia Unified Command is trying to think about is
how do we create campaigns that socialize the public into wearing masks? Because we know
that there are so many people, specifically African-American men, who don't feel comfortable
walking into stores with a mask for fear that they will be viewed as a threat by, you know,
folks like Amy Cooper or others
or law enforcement.
And so on one hand, you want to wear the mask
to save your life, but on the other hand,
you're worried that perhaps having a mask on
may be detrimental to your life.
So how do we socialize our communities
and our neighbors and those that we go into stores,
grocery stores with and doctor's offices? How do we socialize each other to wearing the mask and how to wear them correctly? Like you
said, Roland, because these are what's going to flatten the curve. And this is what's going to
help us as we think about until we get a treatment for this, right? We have no treatment.
So this is all we have, social distancing and wearing a mask and washing your hands.
And making sure that you're not touching that mask with your face.
So again, the PPE is there to protect those membranes because we know that that's where
the disease wants to go.
So once you have that mask on, conditioning yourself not to touch your face because, again, you do not want to pass that virus on from your hands.
So washing your hands as much as possible and making sure to cover those airways.
I want to go to Greg here.
I will say this here.
I was watching him again.
I was watching the memorial service, and there was a woman who was at the pulpit.
She was talking, and she wiped her nose, touched her nose,
and then placed her hand back on the podium.
I was like, yeah, no one's going to be touching that podium.
I mean, again, it's just things you now think about.
Greg, your question.
Man, I touched my head.
I've been in, I done washed my hands 15 times.
First of all, thank you, Dr. Underwood, Dr. Willis.
I have a question as it relates to advice you might have for the folks who are
out there protesting. I saw a lot of people with masks, a lot of people with gloves, but then I
saw a lot of support stuff being handed around. Water, fruit, all kinds of people. I mean,
is there a protocol? And I know we're in uncharted territory, but what would you say to folks who are
going to go out and demonstrate? And in your case, I'm thinking about the police we have. I see all these police with no masks on.
Is there a word for them, not just as law enforcement, but as human beings, because
they themselves are susceptible. I'm just saying, is there a protocol that everybody
should be following at these protests? Absolutely. And I say the best way to get that message across is for you to model
that. So for you to make sure that you are interceding when you see someone not wearing
their mask correctly or when you see someone that is unmasked, because the worst thing that could
happen is that from this protest and this uprising, which I think is essential for us causing a
revolutionary and radical change in this country is for us to
then die because of it, especially from a disease that we can prevent.
And so if we do want to go out there and we want to assist our protesters, because there's
a lane for everyone and we need these people causing a radical stir in our country, we
want to make sure that we're supporting them and giving them the education that they need.
And so if you go out, make sure that you model, take extra masks, make sure that they have exactly
what they need, take the water, but take educational information as well so that they
have all of the information they need to stay safe as we change this country. Erica?
Yeah, I appreciate both of you ladies. One of the things that I've also kind of been reading around is people actually covering their eyes and that when they go into supermarkets not to necessarily have gloves on.
Could you both please educate us on do we do do we actually also need to be protecting our eyes as well when we walk outside of our homes and engage the public?
And should we or should we not be wearing gloves?
So, and then I'm glad, go ahead Dr. Underwood,
I'll volley that to you.
Wearing gloves is kind of like a double-edged sword
because you can wear gloves and get the virus on the gloves
and then touch your face and then you've still got the virus.
So the gloves are really a deterrent to keep you from touching your face, and then you've still got the virus. So the gloves are really a deterrent
to keep you from touching your face.
We know that we touch our face hundreds of times
during the day.
And so the gloves sometimes can give you
a false sense of security.
But not to say that you can't wear gloves
as long as you understand that you still shouldn't touch
your face with those gloves.
The other thing about covering your eyes is, I think it just really underscores the idea of really limiting how
much you go outside. We have to have our eyes with regard to driving and navigating the landscape.
And so if you think that it is not necessary for you to go out to a
grocery store or go out to a particular event, then don't go and limit how much you go out
because you are putting yourself at risk every time you go out. You cannot cover your eyes.
And I'd just like to also underscore that sometimes, and there are people with disabilities or different
abilities that have a hard time even with the mask on. So some masks are see-through so that
people that are reading lips can actually see someone else's lips so that they can understand
what you're saying. So there are lots of different accommodations that can be made and that are being
made, but I wouldn't recommend anyone
covering their eyes. What I would recommend is limiting how much you go out and put yourself
and your family at risk. Absolutely. All right. Well, look, we certainly appreciate both of you
for the advice, Dr. Underwood, Dr. Willis. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you for having us. him hell and he drops an apology. Crazy ass white people. Lord, we've got so many contestants.
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cops. Check this out. A video has been released that shows police destroying medical station
in an Asheville, North Carolina protest.
Watch this.
The police are now stabbing water bottles with knives
and pouring all the water out onto the ground.
You're destroying water.
This is the Asheville Police Department.
The car fuse is in effect.
Please leave the area peacefully.
Thank you.
Is that peaceful?
Is that peaceful, you f***ing a**hole?
Is that peaceful?
I am being wasted.
I need supplies.
This is medical bed.
All right, folks. let the video roll.
Pull the mic up.
Basically, look, the mayor of Asheville, North Carolina,
wants some answers as to why the cops did this.
Erica, this is stupid.
This is just stupid.
I mean, it doesn't...
So you're just trying to get back at protesters.
Why would you waste like this?
We actually saw this by some other departments as well.
Absolutely. We saw this happen in the District of Columbia. And my question is, on whose authority did they destroy the estimates of about $700 of supplies? And even thinking about
Asheville, North Carolina, Asheville is 80 plus percent white. The population of black and other people of color is,
you know, when you add them all up is about maybe 18%
when you add black and other folks as well.
And so what we're seeing are people who are non-black
that are really getting a small glimpse
of what black folks that lead,
that are grassroots organizers get in terms of engagement with the
police department so that the mayor who again has oversight over the police department needs to
follow up with the community to talk about what actionable measures have taken place since the
time that the police and these are taxpayer-funded public services those people felt that they were able to do what they were able to do.
It's just stupid.
Recy, it's stupid.
It's water.
Look, okay, fine, your curfew,
they're going to take it back.
You don't just look at this curfew,
it's that, it's food, it's snacks.
It's just stupid.
What it is, it's looting, okay?
They always want to talk about, you know,
make black people the face of looting
or make black people the face of looting or make
black people the face of violence in these protests that are happening.
It's the cops that are looters.
Okay.
There's absolutely no justifiable reason whatsoever.
These water bottles do not pose a public safety threat to these cops who are basically just
acting like animals.
All right.
And so it's sickening to see this over and over
again. What they're trying to do is they're
trying to create as
unsafe conditions as possible,
going after a medic, you know,
so that they can't service people who,
like, for instance, Justin
Howell down in,
and I can't recall the state exactly
off the top of my head, because there's so many of these
cases, who was hit by a rubber bullet and is in critical condition now.
And the cops hit the person who was trying to attend to them, the paramedic, with a rubber bullet as well.
And so this is just more of them really flexing their brutality.
That's all.
Why people need to be in the streets in the first place.
Greg, this is why people don't like police.
You don't have to do this.
I mean, again, if you're cops
trying to enforce a curfew, there's a
way to be reasonable in talking
to citizens.
Sure, but they may have had
to do it, Roland. Not thinking about
the uniform they wear or the police function
they assume, but the human beings
underneath the uniforms.
David Zack, the police chief, said, I apologize for not being able to constrain these, to
confiscate, rather, these supplies last night.
And I think that was probably more true than he could admit.
The reason they weren't able to constrain, to contain these supplies, to confiscate these
supplies, rather, is because these are tiny
pieces of men.
They're searching for their manhood underneath those crushed water bottles, and they're stabbing
the ground with their proxy phalluses.
The idea is that they are somehow searching for some sense of their humanity.
They stomped on those bottles because they are pieces of men.
They stabbed those bottles because they're searching for some phallic dominance in a society where they
joined the police force for this exact thing. So when the police chief, who should be fired
but won't be fired, apologizes for not being able to confiscate, what he's basically saying
is I can't contain this urge because these are the people we have recruited to this fascist
outfit called the police.
All right, folks, let's go to this story.
Boy, huge story.
Man, did New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees step into it.
Yesterday, we showed you the video.
We're going to play it again today, where Drew Brees did an interview with Yahoo Finance.
And for some reason, he decided in the midst of all this to talk about the U.S. flag.
Y'all got the video?
Everyone is looking back now at Kaepernick's protest from a few years ago,
and obviously they were always about police brutality,
and now it's coming back to the fore,
and a lot of people expect that we will see players kneeling again
when the NFL season starts.
I'm curious how you think the NFL will and should respond to that,
and of course you're such a leader in the league. What is your responsibility as a leader in times like this
for the rest of your teammates and players in the league? Well, I will never agree with anybody
disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country. Let me just tell you what I see or what I feel
when the national anthem is played
and when I look at the flag of the United States.
I envision my two grandfathers
who fought for this country during World War II,
one in the Army and one in the Marine Corps,
both risking their lives to protect our country
and to try to make our country and this world a better place.
So every time I stand with my hand over my heart, looking at that flag and singing the national anthem, that's what I think about.
And in many cases, it brings me to tears, thinking about all that has been sacrificed, not just those in the military,
but for that matter, those throughout the civil
rights movements of the 60s and everyone and all that has been endured by so many people
up until this point. And is everything right with our country right now? No, it's not. We still have
a long way to go. But I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag
with your hand over your heart is it shows unity.
It shows that we are all in this together.
We can all do better and that we are all part of the solution.
Well, it was fever and the flunk house.
NFL athletes, including some of his teammates, not happy at all. Ed Reed,
Hall of Famer, safety,
had this to say,
looking like Frederick Douglass while he did it.
I'm gonna just get straight to it.
I see Drew Brees trying to do his part
in keeping black folk down.
You're a straight sucker for that shit,
Drew Brees.
We all got kids,
so I'm gonna try to mind what I say right now. Drew Brees, you're a straight sucker for that shit, Drew Brees. We all got kids, so I'm going to try to mind what I say right now.
Drew Brees, you're a straight sucker, man.
You're a sucker for that, bro.
Why you think all these young people out here protesting?
Why you think they out here protesting?
The looting, I can see you speaking on the looting and saying that's bad.
You don't support that.
But why you think all
these young people are here protesting i really ain't got no more words for you bro you're a sucker
man straight bs man straight bs and for all my saints fans for all my new orleans people who
still like your ass just because they want to win games, you're all right with them. You understand?
Drew Brees, you're a sucker.
You're going to be a sucker.
You understand?
Punk, man.
Steven Jackson, very close friend of George Floyd, said this.
Shout out Michael Thomas, man.
Way to hold Drew Brees accountable, Mike.
I don't give a damn if he throw you all them touchdowns.
Hold his ass accountable.
Wrong, bad timing, Drew Brees.
Bad timing, bro.
All right?
You play for New Orleans and you live in New Orleans.
All them black people in New Orleans that support you,
Drew Brees, you got to be a little bit more sensitive to the timing, bro.
You can't just be saying shit out your ass.
You should understand.
But y'all got to hold all y'all white teammates accountable,
bruh.
Fuck all that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We gotta end that shit now.
Ain't no straddling the fence, all right?
Y'all gotta check your teammates.
Michael Thomas, I salute you, bruh.
Fuck Drew Brees.
Way to check his ass.
If you ain't down with us, then hey, you on the other side.
All that friends shit and acting like you support us,
acting like you really down with us, we ain't buying that shit. All that half ass supporting us, we ain hey, you on the other side. All that friend shit and acting like you support us, acting like you really down with us,
we ain't buying that shit. All that half-ass
supporting us, we ain't down with that.
The same motherfucker you half-ass supporting
is the same motherfucker you throwing them passes
to that make you get all these goddamn yards.
Facts. Y'all don't
like the truth. Malcolm
Jenkins, who is a
Saints player, was very
emotional. Watch this.
Yeah, I promise you this. The onslaught of shit that we have to deal with is fucking crazy right Drew Brees, if you don't understand how hurtful, how insensitive your comments are, you are part of the problem. Because your grandfathers served in this country and you have a great respect for the flag that everybody else should have the same ideals and thoughts that you do is ridiculous.
And it shows that you don't know history.
Because when our grandfathers fought for this country and served and they came back, they didn't come back to a hero's welcome. They came back
and got attacked.
For wearing their uniforms. They came back to people to
racism to complete violence. And then here we are in 2020
with the whole country
on fire. Everybody witnessing a black man dying at the hand of
being murdered at the hands of the police with his just in
cold blood for everybody to see the whole country's on fire and
the first thing that you do is criticize one's peaceful
protest. That was years ago when we were trying to signal a sign for help
and signal for our allies and our white brothers and sisters the people we consider to be friends
to get involved it was ignored and here we are now with the world on fire and you still
continue to first criticize how we peaceful how we peacefully protest because it doesn't fit in what you do and your beliefs without ever acknowledging that the fact that the man was murdered at the hands of police in front of us all and that it has been continuing for centuries. brothers that you break the huddle down with before every single game, the same guys that you bleed with and go on a battle with every single day,
go home to communities that have been decimated.
Drew, unfortunately,
unfortunately,
you're somebody who doesn't understand their privilege.
You don't understand the potential that you have to actually be an advocate for the people that you call brothers.
You don't understand the history and why people like me, people of my skin color, whose grandfather fought for this country, who served.
And I still protested against that, not against the national anthem, but against what was happening in America and what our fabric of this country is for or stands for. If you don't understand
that other people experience something totally different than you,
then when you talk about being the brotherhood and all this other bullshit,
it's just lip service or it's only on the field.
Because when we step off of this field and I take my helmet off and I'm a black man walking around America
and I'm telling you I'm dealing with these things, I'm telling you my communities are dealing with these things,
and your response to me is, don't talk about that here.
This is not the place.
Drew, where is the place, Drew?
I'm disappointed.
I'm hurt.
Because while the world tells you that you're not worthy, that your life doesn't matter.
The last place you want to hear from are the guys that you go to war with
and that you consider to be allies and to be your friends.
Even though we're teammates,
I can't let this slide.
A number of New Orleans Saints unfollowed Drew Brees on social media.
Ced Sabalos, former NBA player, he released this video on Instagram.
My name is Cedric Sabalos.
You may not know me.
Lanny.
We crossed paths before.
I know who you are.
Let me introduce you to Gregory Lloyd Edwards. there it is. There it is. There it is. Nope.
What a guy.
I'm still trying to figure out. I can't hear you, sir. Alright. Is LG here?
Not so loud. We have a call here. Wow. Powerful, powerful video there.
That Sid Savalas put out there.
Recy, Drew Brees released this.
I posted it last night.
I said, boy, his PR team doing overtime.
So here's what he posted this morning.
First of all, he was indignant yesterday.
But things changed this morning.
I would like to apologize to my friends, teammates, the city of New Orleans,
the black community, NFL community, and anyone I hurt with my comments yesterday.
Speaking with some of you, it breaks my heart to know the pain I have caused.
In an attempt to talk about respect, unity, and solidarity centered around the American flag and the national anthem,
I made comments that were insensitive and completely missed the mark on the issues we are facing right now as a country.
They lacked awareness and any type of compassion or empathy instead those words have become divisive
and hurtful and have misled people into believing that something i am and some that somehow i'm an
enemy this could not be further from the truth and it is not an accurate reflection of my heart
or my character this is where i stand i. I stand with the black community in the fight against systemic racial injustice and police brutality and support
the creation of real policy change that will make a difference. I condemn the years of oppression
that have taken place throughout our black communities and still exist today. I acknowledge
that we as Americans, including myself, have not done enough to fight for that equality or to truly
understand the struggles and plight of the black community,
I recognize that I am a part of the solution
and can be a leader for the black community in this moment.
I will never know what it's like to be a black man
or raise black children in America,
but I will work every day to put myself in those shoes
and fight for what is right.
I've always been an ally, never an enemy.
I am sick about the way my comments were perceived yesterday,
but I take full responsibility and accountability.
I recognize that I should do less talking and more listening,
and when the black community is talking about their pain,
we all need to listen.
For that, I am very sorry, and I ask your forgiveness.
Recy.
Listen, I'm going to echo the very wise words of Stephen Jackson.
Fuck Drew Brees.
Fuck him and all these fake-ass allies
that sit up there and put these black squares,
that put these PR release statements
out there, and their actions say the exact opposite of what they are trying to telegraph to people.
This shit is not a game to black people, people that are out there putting their lives on the
line, risking coronavirus and all the other things, and risking more death and more brutality from the cops. This shit is not fun. It's not an Instagram game.
It is real life or death for us.
You are not an ally, Drew Brees,
and anybody like you, anybody that agrees with you
and your dumbass racist mentality.
I am so sick of being patronized.
I don't want to hear from Drew Brees.
You're not a leader.
You need to just sit the hell down
and shut the fuck up. How about that?
All of y'all out there that think
that you're going to use this moment to show your
allyship, even though
your PDFs and your statements and all that
other stuff does not align with how you have conducted
yourself throughout your entire life,
shut the F up. Sit down
and shut up. You can listen to
black people without making a goddamn announcement that you're listening to black people.
You can be an ally, some of y'all that might be capable of doing that, without, you know, performing for people.
Just do the work.
Just shut up and listen.
I'm just, my blood is boiling.
And to have that image of a black, what the hell was that?
It's insulting. And they're not helping. Now black... What the hell was that? It's insulting.
And they're not helping. Now is not the time for kumbaya. Now is the time
to pick a side. Are you on the side of
white supremacy or are you on the side
of black humanity and Black Lives Matter?
There is no kumbaya
with that. You're one or the other, period.
Well, Greg, now you
gotta follow that.
Listen, I... Look, I'm happy to put all that smoke to be well Greg now you gotta follow that listen I look
I'm happy to
put all that smoke to be trained
at Drew Brees Reese just laid
it out and my man Ed Reed
channeled his inner Erica Savage
Wilson on that I just would see I haven't watched
a game in NFL since they
you know wouldn't sign caps I ain't seen a game
in NFL in a couple of years but
if the Ravens were playing the Saints and Ed Reed was out of retirement, I might just sneak up and watch
that game because that brother looked like he wanted to strap it up right there and handle
this on the field. With that in mind, I agree with Santa Sharp. Drew Brees should retire.
He was thinking about retiring at the beginning of this past year. He's 41 years old. He signed
another two-year, $50 million deal. That was him worried about his money. He's 41 years old. He signed another two year, $50 million deal.
That was him worried about his money.
Let's be very clear.
Appreciate the offer to be a leader for black men.
I guess that's in the pet Raleigh model.
I don't know, leader of black men on the field,
but these brothers have made it be known.
And you know, how ironic is it, Roland,
you talking about this story today,
when on June the 4th, 1967, Muhammad
Ali said, I'm not going to Vietnam. And Jim Brown called him to Cleveland and sat there
with Willie Davis and Bill Russell, the great Celtic champion, Bobby Mitchell, who played
for the Washington Club, and a senior who was a three-time college player of the year
at a power memorial high school in New York, the great Luau Cinder, who would soon change his name to Muhammad Ali,
and after they heard Ali,
I mean, changed his name to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
and when they heard Ali say,
"'I'm not going to Vietnam,'
those brothers, accompanied by the black mayor of Cleveland,
said, "'We stand with this brother.'"
Drew Brees, you're beneath contempt, old man.
Retire.
I'm with Shannon Sharp,
because in the light of what those brothers did that day,
you don't even rank. Go on
in the Hall of Fame, go on in Canton with the rest of your
little Klansmen and enjoy your life.
But you have just now cratered any
idea that you won't go in without a big
white asterisk by
your name.
Erica Savage?
Oh, I echo the sentiments of
Reesey and Dr. Carr and I'll say
this as well, it's B with a capital B.
No, your apology is absolutely rejected with that copy and paste bullshit that you presented.
And for anybody who wants to kind of read why I have not read, know why I have not followed the NFL in over a decade,
pick up William C. Rowland's $40 million slaves, you know, for him to even invoke when he was
responding on this interview to talk about, to weave in that he would never, what he would
never do, and then to talk about World War II.
You know, we have plenty of Black veterans in all of our families.
Me, I'm also a veteran as well.
And I'm thinking about Black veterans that came home to, as one of the brothers said, to be an attack, but also to be lynched.
And then I'm thinking about the black veterans that came home and they were absolutely taken out of the GI Bill,
that they weren't able to come home and enjoy some of the benefits that their white veteran colleagues were white veteran brothers and sisters were able to enjoy.
So Drew B. Drew Brees showed his ass.
He was caught in that. No, he is not welcome on any front, particularly in the Black community
with a capital B to be any kind of leadership. And what Dr. Carr talked about around him retiring,
it's been time for him to do that. Can I say one more thing, Roland?
Sure. I just thought about something.
Sure. I just wanted to say, to echo Dr. Carr I say one more thing, Roland? Sure! I just thought about something. Sure!
I just wanted to say, to echo Dr. Carr's
point about being beneath contempt,
Malcolm Jenkins, what you crying for?
Right. On Instagram, why you
letting these white folks see you crying shit
over what Drew Brees is talking about? Because
he's a white supremacist. Because
he does not value your black life.
Don't let him see you sweat like that. You ain't got no
reason to be up and down crying about that. You ain't got no reason to be up there crying about
that. You need to be angry. You should
be angry, and I sympathize with your pain
and your trauma from that, but
they should not come to a shock at you as this
man who's sitting up there, like you said,
is your brother on the field and nothing else
has contempt for your Black life and
your Black family's life.
Cut the tears, and you
need to show a little bit more restraint
and make this man respect you,
because clearly he does not.
Well, now,
I don't need to say nothing.
But the bottom line is this here.
Shannon Sharp broke it down today.
Martellus Bennett,
if y'all have not seen Martellus Bennett's timeline
on Twitter, go see it.
He laid it out.
He was real swamped today.
We're going to get him on the show next week.
The man, he spoke a series of truth.
But it's amazing when these white boys want to tell us about their grandfathers who fought.
And they want to ignore the fact that we had grandfathers and uncles and great-grandfathers who fought.
Yet, when they came back, we're not treated like heroes.
They were treated like they were the enemy.
We had grandfathers and great-grandfathers
who fought the Germans,
who fought the folks over there in Italy,
who fought the fascists, who fought the Nazis.
Yet there were Nazi POWs
who were put in cars ahead of black troops.
And there were race riots in depots,
train depots all across the country
when they got back from fighting.
Oh, yes, white soldiers were not happy at all
to see black men wearing their uniforms.
Black soldiers, Drew Beers, Drew Brees,
were lynched in their uniform.
There were members, black folks, who were veterans,
folks like Medgar Evers,
who were gunned down by white supremacists.
Yeah, Black people fought for this country too.
And see, Drew, when you wanna make this whole point
about how patriotic your grandfathers were,
ain't nothing more patriotic
than fighting for a country that don't love you.
Ain't nothing more patriotic than fighting for a country that don't love you. Ain't nothing more patriotic than fighting for a country
that looks at you as a second- or a third-class citizen,
a country that put Nazi POWs ahead of you.
So next time one of y'all white boys
want to give us a lesson,
a trifling lesson on patriotism,
why don't you ask, go read Jackie Robinson's book,
I Never Had It Made.
The same Jackie Robinson
who they tried to court-martial in El Paso, Texas
because he stood up to white supremacy.
Yeah, TNT years ago did a movie on it starring Andre Brown.
The same Jackie Robinson, Member. Veteran.
Military. Who wrote
in his book, he would never say
the Pledge of Allegiance or stand
for the flag or sing the national anthem
because he knew exactly what
white folks thought about him. Who titled his
book, Drew, I Never Had It Made
because he said
that's the case. If there's one black
person who's not free,
then I never had it made.
You're going to think twice next time
before you sit here and stand there
and praise that flag,
waving and all what it mean,
and I will never.
Really?
Bet your ass never going to make that mistake again.
I bet you're going to think twice
when you go to that White House again
taking pictures with Donald and Melania.
Yeah, it's gonna be a real interesting locker room
in New Orleans.
And trust me,
ain't gonna be no second line taking place.
Well, it might be a second line
because it might be the second line
for the funeral of your career.
I'm just saying.
All right, folks, I want to give a shout-out to folks
who have supported our show during our Bring the Funk fan club.
I got so many crazy-ass white people cases.
I ain't got time to get to them.
We're going to deal with those tomorrow
because in five minutes I got to do this Zoom
with the National Cares Mentoring Project.
So let me read some of the names of the people, of course,
who supported us with our Bring the Funk fan club.
So I got through the A, Bs, and Cs.
Yes, sir, let me get down to the Ds.
All right, let me get to this teleprompter, get down to it.
All right, let's see if I can get with it.
Dale, Damon Hawkins, Darnell Simon, Darrell, David L. Frank Sr.,
Deborah Frazier, Deidre Franklin, Dolores, Dimitri Dunbar,
Dimitri S., Dimitris Frazier, Dimitris Williams,
Dina Bowen, Dina O, Dion Francis,
Derrick Hunt, DeShondra Edwards,
DeShondra Jackson, Diane Singleton,
Dolly Mathis, Dwight Redd, Etna Wingfield,
Effie Coley, Elizabeth Garman,
Elliot Clark, Erica Savage-Wilson,
Erica Freeman, Prothile, Eva Wilburn,
Farida Miller, Farron, Frederick Carroll,
Garcia, Gail West, Gentry Pitts,
Gerald Davis, Joe Ramsey, somebody said gift card, Gil Ng, Giselle, Grace, Gregory Fields, Gregory Gibson,
Gwendolyn Carter, Hod Smith, Herlon Paschal, Hollis Hopkins, Honey Ohana, Tanay, Horace Woods,
Jacqueline, Jacqueline Young, James Green, James Robinson, also Jamie Worthy, James Sekuro,
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Judah Smith, Jivet Dobson, Kamala Bell,
Carlin Frazier, Carolyn, Kathy Dean,
Kate Strickland, Keith, Keith, Keith Antoine,
Kipner Jones, Kermit Pitts, Kimberly Creasy,
Kimberly Marshall, Kimberly Vaughn,
Krista Hines, Kutina Hayes, L.R. Cambridge,
Loretta Cormier, Larry Johnson, Lashawn Joshua,
Lashundria Allen, Lauren Smith, Lavonda Fletcher, Lavonna Gardner, Laniece Shahid, Loretta Cormier, Larry Johnson, LaShawn Joshua, LaShundria Allen, Lauren Smith,
Lavonda Fletcher, LaVonna Gardner,
Laniece Shahid, Leon Furbin, Leonard Long,
Leslie Funn, Lisa Ward, Lloyd Wills, Lorraine Coleman,
Lutalia Stewart, M.K. Alexander,
Manuela Pascal, Mark Porras, Marsha Baltimore,
Marcia Cloud, Marie Schambeck, Marjorie,
Marla Singleton, Mary Brownridge,
Maurice Coleman, Maurice Perry, Megan Simmons, Melvin Clements, Melvin Murphy, Me, Myself, and I, Marjorie, Marla Singleton, Mary Brownridge, Maurice Coleman, Maurice Perry, Megan Simmons,
Melvin Clements, Melvin Murphy,
Me, Myself and I, love that one.
Mia G, Michael Beckman, Michael Gibbons,
Michael Gregory, Michael Hickman,
Michaela Mosley, Michelle Laylor,
Michelle Stevenson, Mojano Alexander,
Mona Louise, Montre Jones, Natalie Odom-Pew,
Poe, Natasha Varner, Nari Berry,
Omar White, Pamela Brody, Patricia Bryant,
Paula Davis, Pierce Johnson, Poetic Praisers, QV1023, R. Byam, Renee Good, Renee Green, Rhonda Buckingham, Roberta Morgan, Robin Williams, Rochelle Rod, Roger Pearson, Rodney Rambo, Roger V. Trice, Ronald E. Fields Sr., Ronald Harrison, Rondell Taylor, Ronna Williams, Sammy Walthorpe, Sam Simeon, EMS Inc., Sarita Lathan, Sandra Powell, Selena Maduforo, Sharon Strowman,
Shauna Yeldale, Sean Burns, Shea Thomas, Sheila Shonda, Shonda Simmons-Perry,
Shireen Raul Karate, Dewin Fitness Academies, S.J. Hastings Counseling and Consulting,
Stanley Boss, Stephanie Freeman, Stephanie Guillaphi-Darkois, Steve Richards,
Stephen Houghton, Sybil Lee, Sylvia Moore,
Tanika Yarbrough, Tanya Alexander, Tasha Johnson,
Tashana Freeman, Tashika McAllister,
Tawanda, Teddy, Tanisha Waldo, Teresa Babers,
Teresa Clemons, Terrance, Terry Gorton,
Terry Mailer, Tessra Lawson, That's My Commercial,
The Circle of Excellence Network,
Tony Younger, Tony Canada, Tony Foster,
Tasha Corpru, Tracy Jarmon, Tracy McFarling,
Trent Robbins, Trina Hodges,
Tonya Griffin, Tawana Carter,
Valeda Gorey, Valerie King,
Victoria Langston, Vincent Willis,
Willie Rouse Jr., Wyckoff,
Yvonne Dawson, and Zaret Clinton.
I got everybody. No, I
didn't. That was the people who sent in checks.
Let me give a shout out real quick.
Hold up. Houston,
Alvin James, Davey Urban, Kelly Smith,
Jimmy Waters, Kimberly France, Austin
Williams, Maxine Pascal, Kay Tucker.
I'm all caught up. Erica,
Greg, and Recy.
I want to thank everybody for joining
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