#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Global Hope Forum Day 3; Voting Groups March to Washington; MLK Memorial 10th; NFL ends race-norming

Episode Date: October 22, 2021

10.21.21 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: For the next few days, voting rights activists will be trekking 70-miles from West Virginia to Washington, D.C., to urge lawmakers to pass federal voting rights legis...lation. We'll be joined by one of those activist from the "Freedom to Vote" Relay. A. Scott Bolden, the attorney for Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby, says the Criminal Tax Division of the U.S. Department of Justice is pursuing perjury charges against her for her signature on documents. Still, investigators refuse to tell him anything more. He'll join us to tell us what's really happening with this investigation. The NFL agrees to end race-norming. A former NFL player and his wife will tell us about the $1 billion settlement. High-profile death row inmate Julius Jones asked an Oklahoma City federal judge for a temporary stay of his execution as his clemency hearing is set to take place next week. Representatives of different faith communities, civil rights activists, and others gathered for the 10th dedication anniversary of the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial. We'll show you some of the festivities that took place today in D.C.And this may be the craziest ass white people segment ever. A California teacher uses an offensive "dance" to teach a math concept. Ya'll she dressed up as a Native American. You'll just have to see it for yourself.#RolandMartinUnfiltered partners:Nissan | Check out the ALL NEW 2022 Nissan Frontier! As Efficient As It Is Powerful! 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3FqR7bPAmazon | Get 2-hour grocery delivery, set up you Amazon Day deliveries, watch Amazon Originals with Prime Video and save up to 80% on meds with Amazon Prime 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3ArwxEh+ Don’t miss Epic Daily Deals that rival Black Friday blockbuster sales 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3iP9zkvBuick | It's ALL about you! The 2022 Envision has more than enough style, power and technology to make every day an occasion. 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3iJ6ouPSupport #RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfilteredDownload the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com#RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:55 It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Today is Thursday, October 21st, 2021. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, broadcasted live from Atlanta, where the 8th Annual Hope Global Forum has ended. Folks, we will hear from John Hope Bryant, the founder of Operation Hope, about this week, how things went. Also, for the next few days, voting rights activists will be trekking 70 miles from West Virginia to Washington, D.C., to urge lawmakers to pass federal voting rights legislation. Also, also, this Sunday in West Virginia,
Starting point is 00:02:46 there will be, of course, a rally to tell Senator Manchin to have a step up and do something. Attorney A. Scott Bolden, the attorney for Baltimore, State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby, held a news conference today with various other lawyers and activists. He says the criminal tax division of the U.S. Department of Justice is pursuing perjury charges against her for her signature on documents, but he said investigators refused to tell him anything more. He'll join us to tell us exactly what's happening there in Baltimore.
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Starting point is 00:03:49 and also Alpha Phi Alpha held a luncheon there as well. Plus, Kasim Reed wants to return as the mayor of Atlanta. Why is the Atlanta NAACP opposing him? We'll hear from him on Roland Martin on filter. Plus, this may be the craziest as white person segment ever. A California teacher uses an offensive dance to teach a math concept. She
Starting point is 00:04:11 dressed as a Native American. When do y'all see for yourself? It's time to bring the funk on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Streaming live on the Black Star Network. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the biz, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the find. And when it breaks, he's right on time.
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Starting point is 00:04:55 Rolling with rolling now. Yeah, yeah. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best, you know. He's Rolling, Martin. Martin. All right, folks, so we are here in Atlanta, Georgia. We're here in Atlanta, Georgia, where for the last three days, the eighth annual Hope Global Forum has taken place. And so we certainly appreciate being here. Lots of things that have been going on. But let's go.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Let's talk about what's happening there in the DMV. In March, federal prosecutors launched a criminal probe into the finances and campaign finances of Baltimore's top prosecutor, Marilyn Mosby, and her husband, Nick, who is the president of the Baltimore City Council. Now, today in Baltimore, there was a news conference with her attorney, A. Scott Bolden, as well as Ben Crump and others to show support for her. Now, Bolden is joining us right now on Rolling Button Unfiltered. You see him typically on our panel. So he's on the other side right now. Scott, glad to have you here. So you contend that Marilyn Mosby has been unfairly targeted. Well, we always have contended that.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And so Ben Crump, myself, J. Wendell Gordon, Pastor Yeri, and Pastor Jamel Bryant, as well as the state and city NACP presidents, joined us not only to support Marilyn Mosby, but to look at and ask the Department of Justice to look into the cases of Kim Foxx, as well as Kim Gordon, other Black female prosecutors that have been harassed and offended and really just targeted by animus by the state bar associations in Missouri and Illinois and with Marilyn Mosby here in Maryland. This whole criminal probe of her began, and the prosecutors have told us this, because she wouldn't give the backup documents to her tax returns with the state bar association, which she wasn't required to do. We have a less personal and political as well as racial animus
Starting point is 00:07:07 because it makes absolutely no sense for them to conduct a civil audit of her taxes and her husband's taxes through a federal grand jury. It is just uncalled for, but it's unbelievable. It's such a rare piece that a prosecutor is pulled before the state bar, let alone a federal grand jury, when not only have they done nothing wrong, but the investigation started with no allegations of wrongdoing, other her lack of cooperation, which she didn't have to corroborate as a matter of law. And so we want DOJ to terminate the investigation. We want them to
Starting point is 00:07:45 remove the prosecutors who are in place, who have given political contributions to not one, but two of our opponents. It certainly creates an animus. It's a conflict of interest. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on one second. Hold on one second. Are you saying that the prosecutors who are currently investigating Marilyn Mosby, you're saying those prosecutors have made donations to the individuals running against Marilyn Mosby? In the last election. And, you know, you have to report political contributions. And so all you have to do is go to the Marilyn regulators. And it's right there. He not only gave Leo Wise, not only gave one, but two contributions to two different
Starting point is 00:08:31 opponents of hers. Now she's leading the prosecution. So Scott, Scott, Scott, so, so, so you said prosecutor named Leo Wise that when Marilyn Mosby ran the last time, he gave donations to two of her opponents, and he is the one who's leading the investigation right now into Marilyn Mosby? Yes. Verifiable. Documented. The DOJ is not disagreeing. So isn't that unethical for a lawyer? If this was a judicial situation, a lawyer will be asking the judge to recuse themselves from the case. I'm going to be asking for the grand jury if they indict her or not. I'm going to be asking a grand jury judge to dismiss the case for bad faith prosecution. It is a huge conflict of interest and connotes political animus towards
Starting point is 00:09:32 a public elected official, twice, by the way, by the citizens of the city of Baltimore. And so we've asked DOJ to not only remove them, but to terminate this investigation that is rife with animus, personal animus. They've had beefs before for leaks in joint investigations. The political animus, because this lead prosecutor who got this information or lack of information from the State Bar Association. And I'll be quite honest with you. I think there's a racial animus here because if nothing else makes sense, you got to look at race. And we want her and her husband to get back to their core mission of serving the people for
Starting point is 00:10:11 the city of Baltimore. And that's just not happening. DOJ has stopped talking. DOJ will not walk away from the investigation. But more importantly, DOJ won't talk with us about what facts they have to support these proposed claims. For example, there's a possibility that there is a perjury charge. And so we get an opportunity to defend ourselves before the DOJ criminal tax division. We had a meeting with them. We say, OK, one of the possible charges is perjury. Tell us what the statement was. Tell us what the document was. Was she allegedly lied on their oath? You can't bring perjury. Tell us what the statement was. Tell us what the document was where she allegedly lied
Starting point is 00:10:45 on their oath. You can't bring perjury. I can't defend against perjury if you don't tell me what the lie was or what the false statement was that was made. They refused to tell us. And so it is these types of games that DOJ is playing with the political and personal life of Marilyn Mosby that we've got to get at. We have asked for meetings with the higher-ups above the frontline lawyers. We have asked for a meeting with the new U.S. attorney for the state of Maryland, a former Maryland delegate, black ASUA, Democratic U.S. attorney for the state of Baltimore. We have not gotten a response on our request. And so I'm tired of being tired of the lack of communication and the silence while these possible charges and investigation hangs over her and her family's head. It's just not right.
Starting point is 00:11:34 It's fundamentally unfair. And it's not just happening to her. It happened to Kim Fox, Kim Gardner out of St. Louis, Missouri. And so these six strong, prominent black men came together to say enough is enough. We've asked DOJ to take a deeper look at whether they've been wrongfully investigated or wrongfully harassed. But more importantly, with Marilyn Mosby, that all charges that they're looking at, the termination of the grand jury investigation, that they terminate that and make it go away. An investigation, by the way, that started under Trump. I'm trying to understand how this came about.
Starting point is 00:12:28 You said that the Maryland State Bar made a recommendation or sent information to DOJ, and that's how this thing started? The Maryland State Bar, on their own volition, began asking her about whether she had filed her taxes timely and appropriately because there was a tax lien that the media had reported on. She didn't know about the tax lien. It was never properly served. I looked for the tax lien through our normal means as a law firm. we couldn't even find it. When she turned her taxes over to the Maryland State Bar Association, they then asked her for documents to back up and support her deductions and other entries on her tax return. As a matter of law, she's not required to do that, and another lawyer who was representing her gave them case law as to why they could not ask or receive those documents, okay? Now, the state bar then turned this information and her refusal to produce these documents
Starting point is 00:13:15 over to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Maryland. We know that because when we asked the U.S. attorney, the one who's got the political animus, Leo Wise, we asked him, what was this about? What triggered this investigation of my client? He directed us back to the state bar and that dispute that she had with him. So that came from the U.S. attorney's office. So we looked at that and said, well, that can't be why you've got a criminal grand jury investigation, because if you were concerned about that, that would be handled by a civil audit through the IRS. The IRS can send you letters and take you through an audit, because the amount of exposure here, even if what they're saying she owes the government vis-a-vis the tax lien, she's paid that tax lien.
Starting point is 00:14:02 That's been resolved. Why is there a federal criminal investigation over a civil tax audit issue? They don't make enough money to stock millions away to avoid taxes or evade taxes. They're public servants. Their salaries are of a public, you can find them out by public and sent by the state legislature. So it makes no sense. They're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend themselves when it makes no sense. And there's this animus towards them. And it's an abuse of power, an abuse of prosecution that has made it a persecution of Marilyn Mosby and her husband. That's a bottom line proposition.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And it never stops being that. Well, we certainly want to see what happens next in this case here. I still find it strange that a prosecutor is leading an investigation into Marilyn Mosby who gave to her opponents, two of her opponents in the last election. I don't see how that person is still involved in this case. That clearly is a conflict of interest. Roland, we took the issue in writing to the professional responsibility team at DOJ. They rejected our contention that they should be removed, saying we could take it to a judge. But why would I take it to a judge after they've been indicted, if they were to get indicted?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Why not have DOJ remove what is clearly a practical and public conflict of interest, verifiable? Why would I wait for them to conduct a bad investigation, possibly a bad indictment, and then go to the judge and complain about it being a persecution or complain to them about it being a racial and political animus-based prosecution after the fact? I wanted DOJ to remove them. DOJ, even DOJ has refused to remove them. We certainly asked them to take a deeper look at it because this investigation started under the Trump administration. You have to be approved to do a criminal tax investigation. And the Trump DOJ approved it. We're now asking the Biden-Harris
Starting point is 00:16:17 DOJ, as well as the new U.S. attorney in the state of Maryland to take a deeper look at it and to terminate this investigation that was started from an ill will standpoint and has no place on the books of public dollars being spent just to harass this publicly elected official. All right. Attorney Scott Bolden, attorney for Marilyn Mosby. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right. Attorney Scott Bolden, attorney for Marilyn Mosby. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right. Thank you. I'm Dr. Greg Carr with the Department of Afro-American Studies at Howard University. He joins us every Thursday. Recy Colbert, as well, founder of Black Women Views, Raj Bahamut, radio and TV host. Recy, I made the point here, what was a parent conflict of interest. But we do have to deal with this reality of the level of attacks that have come against these black female prosecutors across the country, how they
Starting point is 00:17:16 have been attacked. Former prosecutor Aramis Ayala, because she chose not to prosecute death penalty cases. Governor Rick Scott and others came after her very aggressively. Then, of course, you have Kim Foxx, where they went after her for the Justice Millette decision as well. Now you have Marilyn Mosby, Kim Gardner, and St. Louis has been under constant attack since she was elected as well. It's amazing how folks are real fragile and they see threats from these sisters. I would also add Vice President Kamala Harris. Her record was smeared and attacked, even though she was the leader on a lot of these progressive things that you see people like Marilyn Mosby and Kim Foxx taking the baton from her on. And so there
Starting point is 00:18:03 certainly is an agenda. I think the way that they always go after black electeds is through the finances, through alleging some sort of corruption, because it's smart in terms of PR, in terms of getting the general public on their side. I mean, people don't believe that politicians have the right to be corrupt and do things like that. But it's clear that this is a persecution and a hack job being done on Marilyn Mosby. If the issue were taxes, she paid her taxes. You know, OK, so there was a lien. It sounds like the process worked as intended. The IRS filed a lien. And when she was made aware of it, she paid it off. So what? What's the problem? You know, when we look at former
Starting point is 00:18:47 President Trump and all of the tax scams that he has going on, Leo Wise should be investigating him. We look at the fact that, you know, Trump paid off a porn star and called a campaign finance thing or trying to skirt around those rules. and there's no prosecution for him. I mean, I could think of a dozen cases just against Donald Trump alone and the scam that he and Ivanka Trump and his sons were all pulling while he was president of the United States to skirt around tax laws. And I don't see any appetite from that. So why the hell are they going after, as Scott Bolden said, a person who's a public servant who's not wealthy by any means? And, you know, they would have more success if they're looking for tax money going after Jeff Bezos than going after Marilyn Mosby.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So it's all bullshit. And I'm really tired of the way that black electeds are sullied, even if they are unsuccessful in bringing charges against her, just the implication, the insinuation that she has done something criminal is enough to be damaging to her career and future prospects. And that is the point entirely. Faraj, you're based there in Baltimore. How is this playing out among folks in Baltimore. Faraji, your microphone's not on. There we go. It's been playing out for years in Baltimore. State's Attorney Mosby has been on the forefront of really dealing with the issue of justice. And I will say, this goes back to as far as
Starting point is 00:20:25 Freddie Gray. When we had the Freddie Gray situation here in Baltimore City, and State's Attorney Mosby came out and said that she was going to prosecute those police officers that were involved in that case, the onslaught, the attacks came from right then and there. It has never let up. There is a television station right now in Baltimore, and I'm not lying to you, brother, ruling family, television station, Fox, local Fox affiliate, that has been every other day, Marilyn Mosby is coming up in the broadcast. And it's putting Marilyn Mosby, it's not shedding a positive light. Now, the other part about this that, you know, I think that Mr. Bolden has to speak about or should let folks know is that Leo
Starting point is 00:21:12 Wise actually is the same prosecutor that not only gave to two of Marilyn Mosby's opponents, but he's also the same prosecutor that prosecuted the case against Catherine Pugh, the former mayor of Baltimore, who was wrapped up in the Healthy Holly scandal. He was also the same prosecutor that dealt with the situation with former Mayor Sheila Dixon a few years ago. So this, you know, when you look at the big picture of his actions and his use of, I guess, you know, his use of power from that office is very, very questionable. But here's the concerning part about this. The concerning part about this is that you do have a number of Baltimoreans, and I talked to them, who have mixed feelings about the state's attorney. So the PR campaign
Starting point is 00:21:59 against her may win some people over. And where are the mixed feelings coming from? Marilyn Mosby is one of those prosecutors, and we named a few others, who's a part of a national effort to remove any type of criminalization of certain things like weed and other things, small things, right, that have put black men in jail. She's saying, okay, we're not going to prosecute those crimes because it's not, you know, instead of prosecuting them and criminalize them, we're going to try to get them help. We're going to try to get those young brothers some jobs. And so that rubbed people the wrong way. Some people say she's not doing enough to stop the ongoing violence here in Baltimore. Unfortunately, we have been tracking over 300 murders for the past five to six years in Baltimore City. Our numbers have not gone down for homicides. And so some
Starting point is 00:22:51 people say, hey, she's not doing enough to prosecute those who are pulling the triggers. So there's like a perfect storm that's been brewing in the city around Marilyn Mosby, her work performance. And now you have this issue. And I think it's important that folks understand to get to the facts. Listen to what Mr. Bolden has to say. Get to the facts of what she's dealing with because there's a lot of big factors. But at the end of the day, there is, I believe, a coordinated effort to get black elected officials out of public office and to start with PR campaigns, like you said, Recy, to go into their finances and then, you know, really criminalizing them. And that right there, Brother Roland, will discourage any young black person to run for office or to get into a position of power where they can make change for black and brown people. Well, the thing here, Greg, that we have to contend with is you're right. Even the specter of a federal investigation has a damaging impact when someone is running for office.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I am trying to understand if this is a tax case, why is there a criminal probe first by the U.S. attorney's office? Normally, you would think that it would be an IRS case first. And then if it rolls to a certain level, then they would bring in the U.S. attorney's office on the criminal side. So I would want to know how much money we're talking about. Several thousand dollars five figures six figures exactly what is it and so that's also what is strange to me yes well I mean Scott laid it out he laid out the the legal arguments and and the absurdity clearly what we're what we're dealing with and and everyone has said it, I'm just adding my voice to say
Starting point is 00:24:47 yes, we're dealing with a political situation. This is political prosecution. So when Scott said he hopes that under the current administration that this will be dropped, that's a matter of politics. This is really a no-brainer. But there are some other forces at play, and we just heard it, both Recy and Farage have laid it out. The combination here is her actions, and not just her actions, the actions of the other prosecutors you mentioned, the actions of any progressive prosecutor, relatively
Starting point is 00:25:19 speaking, on minor infractions and things like that. And then there is the added layer of the aesthetic. She's a black woman. And so this infuriates white nationalists. The idea, you know, and of course the actions of decriminalizing certain behavior, of attempting to channel those dollars and resources into preventative measures to stop people from falling into the pipeline doesn't know a race. Of course it's going to disproportionately affect black folk and then brown folk, but
Starting point is 00:25:49 it's going to affect poor folk. So they're willing to sacrifice white folk. So notice the silences, though, in all of these cases. Where's the business community in this? Well, you know, they're too busy salivating over gentrification and trying to get some of these people not only off the streets in places like Baltimore or even on the white male side of the spectrum, Larry Krasner, Philadelphia. They want to get these people out of the paint. And so they're going to be very silent. This is
Starting point is 00:26:16 an injustice and it's a political situation. The only other thing I would add is this. And of course, you've been covering this for a long time, Roland. I'm talking about not just this topic, but this arc of persecution that we've heard about. It can have a damaging effect, but can also backfire. Remember the case of Marion Barry. At that point, with D.C. still chocolate city or chocolate enough to put him back in office, you know, voting for Marion Barry at that point was a badge of honor. Now, let's set aside what he did or didn't do. The idea that they are after us is something that can be turned into
Starting point is 00:26:50 political capital. And quite frankly, I'm encouraged by the attempted persecutions because it reveals that some black elected officials have decided that they will do more than just say, vote for me because I'm black. They will, in fact, like Marilyn and others say, vote for me because I am going to do what the black community needs. And those are two very different things. All right, folks, hold tight one second. Got to go to a quick break. We come back. We're going to talk with Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, as they are marching for voting rights to end voter suppression in the country. Also, we'll hear from Kasim Reed, who wants to get his old job back as the mayor of Atlanta. The Atlanta NAACP president has some harsh words for him.
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Starting point is 00:33:16 Stay woke. The voting bill in Congress, activists are making a trek from Virginia to Washington, D.C. Let's go live to our friend Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter. He is actually in the last mile of that trek. Cliff, how you doing? Hey, man, I'm doing good for somebody who's just done 59 miles. But, yeah, we started off in... So how y'all doing? Y'all, you guys are riding bikes?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Are you walking? Are some walking? You're riding? So explain this trip. Yeah, so we started off in Harper's Ferry this morning, historic Harpers Ferry. Incredible experience to be there at that site of so much history, not just John Brown and the raid, but also, you know, one of the early meetings of the Niagara movement. But we started off there, and there were some of us that were going to be biking the entire 60.
Starting point is 00:34:23 There were some that were just going to be biking different parts. There were some that were just going to be biking different parts. There were some that were just going to walk some segments, some that were jogging some segments. But during this final stretch, we've got seven riders who are riding right now. I'm in front of the pack because I was trying to get to the finish in time to join you, Roland. But we've got seven people riding right now, most of whom have been riding since Harper's Ferry. And then we got some people that also been walking the last leg, like the last three miles, five miles, seven miles. So it's a combination right now. But I tell you that there have been folks that have been on this trail with me the entire day, Roland.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And that's how dedicated and committed we are to making a point that we have got to get the Freedom to Vote Act and other voting rights bills, the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, as well as D.C. statehood, that we got to get it passed right now. So the issue that yesterday, we saw what took place.
Starting point is 00:35:22 For a long time, all we heard from senator joe mansion is that you know gotta be bipartisan trying to get republicans not a single republican not one voted with the democrats that's right and that's that's pretty much what we've been expecting all along like we know that we've been saying that not only are you not going to find 10, but you probably wouldn't even find one. And so Joe Manchin has been saying for months now that he's talking to his colleagues, that he knows some of them are reasonable, that they'll go along with a reasonable voting rights bill. He crafted this compromise bill. So it's really, you know, some might say that this is a disrespect to him.
Starting point is 00:36:08 So if he can't produce the 10 Republicans that he's been saying that he could produce, then now's the time for Chuck Schumer and President Biden to tell him, look, we gave you a chance. We let you do a compromise. We took out some stuff that, quite frankly, those of us who wanted a more aggressive voting rights bill are very upset about. But still, we did all that. You still couldn't get your 10. So now guess what, Joe Manchin? It's time to get up off the filibuster to amend it, fix it, modify it, or just outright get rid of it, particularly in regards to voting rights. You had your chance, Joe Manchin, to find 10.
Starting point is 00:36:45 You failed. So now you need to end the filibuster and pass this voting rights bill that you say that you support and which this country so desperately needs, especially marginalized voters and Black voters that are under attack. You see, Roland, I know you've been talking about what they're trying to do down there in Texas, trying to get rid of two seats. How are you going to have 90-something percent of the growth in Texas be from black and brown communities, and then we lose representation? This has got to stop. It's got to stop now. And Manchin has got to agree, and Sinema, and the rest of them that are hiding in the closet
Starting point is 00:37:20 have got to agree to end the filibuster now and pass these bills. You and others have also said the White House must do more. Normally, I mean, we saw this with these other bills. I mean, look, I get emails every day from the White House. They offering up people to talk about build back better infrastructure, COVID relief, stuff along those lines. I'm not getting emails, them offering up surrogates and officials from the White House advancing voting. And so what the hell is the White House doing? That's right, Roland. You're not seeing the same energy that you're seeing for Build Back Better. You're not seeing that for voting rights.
Starting point is 00:38:02 You're not seeing those emails. You're not seeing all the meetings that have taken place in the White House. You're not seeing a couple of weeks ago, President Biden went to Congress when they were discussing Build Back Better. He went to Congress to tell him what he wanted. You haven't seen him do that for voting rights. You haven't seen him go to Scranton, Pennsylvania or any place else for that matter and deliver a speech because he's trying to drum up support for the voting rights bill. You haven't seen him go to Texas and give a speech or go to any state trying to round up support for voting rights. He knows how to get stuff done. He's been in Washington for 40 years.
Starting point is 00:38:39 So, yes, we've been demanding that President Biden do more. That's part of the reason that we and others like the legal women's voters and others have been doing actions and civil disobedience at the White House. I got arrested two weeks ago, along with four other freedom fighters. Just this week, 25 people got arrested at the White House. So, yes, we are demanding that President Biden lean into this, and he needs to shift. He needs to shift. I'm sorry, it's dark. I'm riding through the park. I think I'm getting close to finish. But he needs to shift the priority. We cannot wait for them to finish, build back better, and infrastructure, and then get to voting rights. We need them to prioritize voting rights right now, and then you can finish the job on
Starting point is 00:39:25 infrastructure. But voting rights cannot wait. It cannot be put on the back burner. Trying to see where I'm going. Well, Cliff, y'all had been on the front lines, absolutely doing the work out there, mobilizing and organizing people. And we certainly appreciate it. And so, you know, we are going to continue to stay on top of this as well and make it real clear. This is a fundamental issue that black folks care about. And we must see action from this Democrat, for the Democrats in the Senate and out of this White House. I think, hey, Rolla, I think I'm at the finish line and there might be some people that wanna say hi
Starting point is 00:40:08 or something, if you gotta. Okay, all right, we can do that. Oh, y'all, y'all are on, y'all are on Rollin' Martin right now, I think. They're still there. Y'all say hi to Rollin'. Now, you're on, go ahead and show to Roman. You can go ahead and show them. You can show them.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I was trying to show them. There's some of them are. These are the folks that have been out here all day giving out snacks, helping us on the roads, making sure that we've been safe. These folks have been doing it. The rest of the riders are still behind me, but these are the folks that have been out here volunteering. They've also been committed. They may not have rode or walked for 60 miles, but they've been out here all day, Roland,
Starting point is 00:40:51 because of their commitment to passing the Freedom Vote Act, as well as John Lewis, as well as D.C. Statehood. So y'all, y'all say hi. Hospitals have doctors and nurses. We have mom and dad. Thank you, Roland. Well, look, that's what we want to see. We certainly appreciate it. And y'all keep doing the great work. Thanks a lot. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Thank you, Roland. Folks, today, President Joe Biden spoke at the MLK Memorial for Attended Education. We're going to speak, actually mentioned the voting bill. We're going to have that soundbite for you in just a second. I want to go back to my panel and bring them in here. Again, all we've heard from Raji, from Joe Manchin, is, oh, bipartisanship, bipartisanship. Everybody keeps talking about Manchin and Sinema, but the reality is there are several other Democratic senators who also do not
Starting point is 00:41:45 want to do a carve out to end the filibuster for voting. Well, I don't understand. And this is what these mainstream media people, because again, they're the one, they got the credentials, they got all the staff, they're down there. Why is it they haven't asked every Democratic senator, will you support a carve out for voting rights? We should have every Democratic senator on record on this issue, not just Manchin and Sinema, who don't want to get rid of the filibuster. No, we should. We definitely should. And I think that we're seeing a situation that, you know, we talked a little bit about this dealing with the Republican Party in terms of the revolution within that party.
Starting point is 00:42:26 But then there's a revolution within a Democratic Party, and we're seeing the party just breaking away. And I can't recall who said it, but they're saying that within the Democratic Party, there are three groups of people. You have your moderate, you have your conservative, and you have your progressives. And so even on a simple thing like voting rights, something that is fundamental to, quote, unquote, to our democracy, there are still, you know, so many people who are saying, well, maybe it needs to be this way and that way. And I'm with Cliff and clapping and applauding for him. So this just goes to show you that this thing is much deeper and it has affected everyone. But when you have this level of, you know, people just passing a buck or they're being very slow and procrastinating on a very timely and urgent issue. You know, we're one year out from these major midterm elections and we're still trying to get a voting rights bill to pass,
Starting point is 00:43:35 knowing that there are going to be, you know, if this bill is passed, that they're going to have to be some other bills put in place, some other protocols put in place. So that way our people can go to the polls and cast their ballots for next year's midterm elections. But at this pace, at this place, the Biden administration is wasting time and is losing the ground game to get some folks back into the political process. And that right there has to be brought out at the beginning and throughout this whole conversation. Time is being wasted. And if this is supposed to be the democratic, if this is supposed to be the bedrock of the democratic system, then there needs to be a greater emphasis on it.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Recy, this is President Joe Biden today at the 10th annual at the 10th annual anniversary of the Immigrant Memorial, which was dedicated 10 years ago, speaking about voting. We have to protect that fundamental right, the right to vote, the sacred right to vote. You know, it's democracy's threshold liberty. With it, anything is possible. Without it, nothing is. Today, the right to vote and the rule of law are under unrelenting assault from Republican governors, attorneys general, secretary of state, state legislators, and they're following my predecessor, the last president, I'm not going to be a president. I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president. I'm going to be a president.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I'm going to be a president. I'm going to run for president. Hell, I didn't know I was even going to be able to run for the county council. I didn't even want to. But look, this struggle is no longer just over who gets to vote or making it easier for eligible people to vote. It's about who gets to count the votes, whether they should count at all. Jim Crow in the 21st century is now a sinister combination of voter suppression and election subversion. Biden telling black people something we already know. Yeah, I mean, OK, so what is going to happen from all of this? You know, I take it upon myself because I so rarely hear his name being invoked in these discussions to remind everybody that the majority leader is Chuck Schumer. What the hell are you going to do about Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema and the people that are hiding behind them? Whatever happened to the talk and filibuster? I mean, there was all this talk about bringing back the talk and filibuster. Even President Joe Biden expressed an interest in
Starting point is 00:46:34 supporting that kind of filibuster reform. That has completely fallen off the map. Chuck Schumer has had bluster about everything that's on the table when it comes to the filibuster, and yet absolutely nothing has happened. Clearly, there is a negotiating with terrorists when it comes to the Republicans. There used to be some bipartisan support for at least certain parts of voter integrity. For instance, paper ballots was a thing that was bipartisan under the Trump administration. That never passed, but that was an initiative that was from both parties. Now there is absolutely nobody on the Republican side that's willing to vote for any kind of voting reform,
Starting point is 00:47:15 no matter how much Joe Manchin gets in there and waters down every single Democratic proposal. And unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of saying, well, in 2022, we make Joe Manchin irrelevant. There's not going to be much we can do in 2022 if the federal elections continue to be gerrymandered to death, like the House of Representatives is, as Faraji just pointed out has happened. And so it is do or die at this moment. And the only way that anything gets done is through filibuster reform. They won't even carve out a filibuster reform when it comes to the debt ceiling. They've kicked the can down to December for that. And we're going to have this discussion all over again about carve outs for the filibuster.
Starting point is 00:47:57 It's time to put an end to the filibuster or else the Democrats are going to pay for that in 2020. Two, not Joe Manchin. He don't give a damn. Not Kristen Sinema. She don't give a damn. But you have to, Chuck Schumer, I'm going to say this again, find out what the billionaires have figured out about Chuck Schumer. Find out about what the people that Kristen Sinema is flying off to to eat cake with in France and overseas and do these luxury retreats in Arizona. They got y'all folks figured out. So it's about time that you figure it the hell out so that we can actually have a semi-functioning democracy.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And the last thing I'll say is shout out to Black Voters Matter, Cliff Albright, all the people that are out there on the front lines, people who are getting arrested, civil disobedience. I understand that people don't have a lot of faith in the elected officials. I'm not even going to argue with you on that point at this point, because we barely have a function in democracy. But at least if not for faith in elected officials, at least give these folks like Cliff Albright, LaTosha Brown, et cetera, et cetera, the ability to just retire, to sit down for a couple of years and relax so that they don't have to be marching all the time and doing bike rides and protesting, getting arrested. At least value your vote enough
Starting point is 00:49:16 to retire them. And then we can focus on pushing the electeds to get these proposals and this legislation through instead of always having to have the activists do the heavy lifting just to get us anywhere near functioning. Please, if you don't have faith in anybody else, don't look at these folks that are constantly putting themselves out there and spit in their faces and say that their work doesn't matter. Your vote matters, which is why those folks are out there protesting for it and why the Republicans, every single last Republican in the Senate, every single last Republican in the House, and every single Republican governor across the country
Starting point is 00:49:58 is trying to do everything they can to strip you of your electoral power. Greg, again, fine. Biden, you're coming standing in front of Black people giving that speech. No, no, no, no. You got to do more. And the reality is the White House is not doing the heavy lifting on this. This is simply not the same priority that they have for the infrastructure bill and for the other bills that have passed. It's simply not. No, it's not. It's not. And to be clear, I mean, I don't listen to Joe Biden or really to any president. I mean, the whole point is, I mean, seriously, I mean, you know, if Martin Luther King could come out of that rock,
Starting point is 00:50:44 he probably would have slapped him into the Potomac Basin. But the whole point is that, as nonviolent as Dr. King was, but fortunately, the sculptor, of course, and we know our fraternity raised a lot of money for it, but the sculptor that sculpted Martin King, who immortalized him in stone there, was a Chinese sculptor. And I ain't mad at that, because he got him in a Mao Zedong kind of look. He looking across over there, Thomas Jefferson, like, if I could walk up out of here, I would come over and handle you too. So, I mean, there's no sense in trying to listen to politicians who have other agendas. We must impose our will. And, you know, I encourage everyone, if you get a chance, if you want to read a book to help understand what's going on, Adam Jentleson,
Starting point is 00:51:23 who used to work for Harry Reid, his book Kill Switch on the history of the filibuster makes it very plain. I mean, for most of the history of the filibuster, it was used to prevent civil rights legislation. And now under the White Nationalist Party, the white nationalists have refined it into a tool for imposing their will on all issues because they see the rising tide of color and the increasingly progressive American majority. And so they are going to say no to everything. Here's something that would twist Mr. Cosplay Coal Miner's knickers up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Considering the fact that in the last federal election for president, West Virginia was one of the lowest states in terms of voter participation. They were under 60 percent, along with Tennessee, Hawaii, Arkansas, and I forget the fifth. But at any rate, this will twist his knickers in a fit. The white nationalists wouldn't have voted for legislation that basically they got to write. Their strategy is to say no to everything. Mitch McConnell unveiled that in the first Obama term. They are, this is the last stand. The United States Senate is a failed institution. This isn't me. This is Adam who worked for Harry Reid. It's a failed institution. And guess what's about to die next? American democracy. It's on
Starting point is 00:52:37 its deathbed. The 2022 and 2024 cycles will determine the fracture of this federal polity because the white nationalists have determined that if we can't run it, we will wreck it. And the one thing we're going to take out of this equation is the capacity of the federal government to impose its will on our increasingly white nationalist rogue states. This is all about the strategy of fracturing the country if they can't run it. So say shout out to Cliff, shout out to LaTosha, understanding that. But voting is a proxy for power. And I agree with you, Reesey.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Let's go after the money people. Let's go after the people who are counting their money. That's where they don't like to get hit. I know you saw that rolling and everybody, they just announced the Las Vegas Raiders. I haven't watched a damn football, obviously, in years, but the Las Vegas Raiders... No, no, I'm going to hit...
Starting point is 00:53:35 I'm going to hit that a little bit later, so hold on. Hold on. Trust me. I saw it. I'm going to hit that a little bit later. Let me go... Okay, I won't mention it. I was just going to say. I'm going to hit that later. When you start scaring their money, they move. This is what we need to understand.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Okay. I can't wait to hear about it. Right. Yes, sir. Absolutely. Hold tight one second, y'all. We got to go to a break. We come back. The NFL has decided to stop race-doing.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Remember, we talked to a former NFL player and his wife. They were the ones who were leading that fight. Well, they're back. We're going to talk about this agreement that could provide up to a billion dollars to black players who have been impacted by concussions and who have been ill as a result of their playing in the NFL. We're going to discuss that. We're going to hear from that couple.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Also, Kasim Reed is running to get back into the mayor's office here in Atlanta. The Atlanta president, the NAACP, issued a scathing letter telling folks in Atlanta not to vote for him. We're going to tell you about that letter. And also, you'll hear from Kasim Reed as well. Lots more for us to talk about here, folks, on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Broadcasting live from Atlanta, and yes, streaming live on the Black Star Network. Back in a moment. Oh, that spin class was brutal.
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Starting point is 01:00:06 the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. What's the deal? All right, folks. All right, folks, we are here in Atlanta, of course. We've been here for all week for the eighth annual Hope Global Forum. Glad to be here, as we have been talking about just, first of all, covering all sorts of things. And so we're glad to have the show here. Remember, we talked about race norming. That is something that has been in the news, where the NFL basically was using a different standard, a different standard for African-Americans, African-American players when it came to how they were determining what got paid in the settlements for those players who were impacted by concussions who have been ill.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Well, there was a lot of a lot of attention being paid to that, folks. And so the NFL initially tried to defend it, and all of a sudden they realized that was pretty stupid. A lot of different stories were being done about it as more and more families began to talk about it, began to call out the NFL for race norming. Other doctors begin to call them out as well. And so that led to a lot of changes. Well, the NFL announced yesterday that they have reached a settlement where they're going to stop using race norming, which was negatively impacting
Starting point is 01:01:41 black ballplayers across the board. This settlement could mean an additional billion dollars or so that will go to the families of these athletes who have been impacted. And so we have been covering this story. And these players have been impacted by severe injuries, those who are suffering from all sort of illnesses and ailments and dementia, some with Alzheimer's. And critics say race and or man, of course, may be difficult for these black retirees to qualify for payments of more than half a million dollars. Well, one of the folks who have been fighting this, raising the awareness is Lacey Leonard and her husband, former NFL player Lewis Leonard. They join me now from Arizona. Glad to have them back on the show.
Starting point is 01:02:26 First of all, let me say this here. Lacey and Lewis, congratulations. It was your advocacy, your willingness to take on the NFL, to bring the other families into the fold that caused this story to become a national story. And all of your hard work has resulted in where we are today with them announcing the ending of race norming. Hi, Roland. Thank you so much for having me and Lewis today. Yes. Talk about this decision and how you felt when you were told that they were going to stop using using race norming as a part of this settlement when they notified the federal judge. I was grateful that finally something that we have been advocating for for several years,
Starting point is 01:03:19 you know, it hasn't fallen on deaf ears. I was a little, I just kind of felt like it's about time, you know. Today I had got asked a question and I was asked, you know, do you feel justice? And to me, I don't feel justice would be the word because to me it's almost like if someone say, you know, stole your bike and then they gave your bike back, right, or stole your purse and they gave it back, something that belonged to you or something that did not belong to them. I feel like we are definitely taking a step in the right direction with taking out the norm, the race norms, because I don't think that it was fair to the black players who were really just trying to get the benefits that they deserve based off of their neurological reports, you know. So my hope is that this will be just a catalyst to allow people to receive the benefits they deserve. You know, there's many families besides us that have been dealing with this.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Well, to that particular point there, Lewis, in essence, it's you were fighting for what you actually deserve in the first place. You really forced the NFL to do what was right. They should have not been using race norming in the first place. That is so that is so true. It's really disheartening that we have to go through one fight for the benefits that we're entitled to. But then the things that we have to do, the testing, people don't realize how strenuous these tests are. You know, even
Starting point is 01:05:10 you know, the excuse me, but the getting to these testing sites, you know, you got to fly this place, fly this place. You know, you're talking about going to multiple cities in less than a week. So it's very hard to even do the testing. But in my case,
Starting point is 01:05:36 to be a person who got approved and on the last day got denied, I mean, it was disheartening. It was a punch in the gut. It was a slap disheartening. It was a punch in the gut. It was a slap in the face. It was a stab in the back. But I'm glad it's getting rectified. I'm glad that something is finally being done and the NFL is being held accountable for this racial injustice that we've been going through.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Now, the reports that we've heard, Lacey, that it could be over a billion, who actually decides that? Is that the judge or does the NFL decide that in negotiation with the lawyers? You know, Roland, I'm not sure. I haven't been privy to the document yet, so I'm really eager to see exactly what that entails. Again, you know, as it stands now, my husband has only been approved and then had his approval denied.
Starting point is 01:06:30 So at this point, you know, our family has not yet received justice. I'm not sure how they're going to allocate when they're going to actually be retroactively paying these players or what that looks like, who gets to decide if it's a judge or if it's a collective. Me personally, I would like to see all these players who were wrongfully denied receive also punitive damages. I don't know how hopeful that will be, but I'm really curious to see what this settlement is going to look like because as all of us are aware, the NFL requested that it would be sealed. So to me, that raises an eyebrow that there might be some potential reason that they want it sealed and that they're not really keeping it fully transparent.
Starting point is 01:07:17 So I'm just kind of waiting around like everyone else to see how this is going to affect not only my husband, but all the members in the class that have been adversely affected. Well, it is certainly good news here in terms of what they decided. Y'all have been fighting for this, and we certainly appreciate your advocacy. And so feel free to let us know what happens. You always have an opportunity to share your story with us.
Starting point is 01:07:47 And Lacey, also let me thank you for dressing your husband for today's show. He did not wear that hideous purple. I know you was going to get it wrong. But I tell you what, I see you looking good over there. I see you looking good over there. I see you looking good. No, no, no. See, it's the shades that you have on. This is cobalt blue and gold. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I just want you to see. I know. I know. The shades are affecting you. It must be something. But I tell you what, the reason why I didn't want to intimidate nobody today, because I seen it in your eyes last time, so I wanted to make sure that I didn't intimidate.
Starting point is 01:08:30 So you got it. No, no, no. Well, you may not realize Dr. Greg Carr is also my alpha brother, so we didn't want to sit here and have to make you feel small being two alphas on the show. I appreciate it. We appreciate you guys. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Thank you, Roland. Thank you. Thanks a bunch. All right, y'all take care. I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Quickly, let's go to my panel there. You know I had to go ahead and let them know, Greg.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I had to let them know. First of all, we shall transcend all. We had to let him know. I mean, you know, that's how it's cheering. And, you know, sometimes you got to spank your cheering. The thing here with this, what the NFL was doing was shameful, the use of race norming, and it was depriving African-American players of what they should have been getting, Greg. And so the fact that this is like black folks having to fight for the right to vote that white folks automatically get. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so many disturbing things. First of all, of course,
Starting point is 01:09:43 we add our congratulations. I mean, just for the perseverance, because, you know, these institutions think they can just wear you down. Second of all, it's a minuscule amount of money, considering how much money the NFL makes. Third of all, I agree. There's a reason they want those records sealed. And when you look at the average payment, when you look at the number of times that applicants have been denied, you know, John Gruden's emails may be dwarfed by the conversations that were had off record that they don't want the world to find out.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I mean, if they were to come clean and everyone were to see the correspondence and the conversations they were having, that might succeed in a way that Kaepernick's protest and everything that came after it did not succeed. That might be the thing to break the back of the NFL, because after all, we all know that the employees are just employees, just that. And they'll break these cats and throw them away. That is the nature of that sport. That is the nature of capitalism. So, yeah, I'm sure there's a reason they want them to see. This is, of course, it's crazy, but the NFL, the $15 billion a year industry,
Starting point is 01:10:58 Reesey, and the fact that the players had to fight, hire lawyers, go through all of this, putting more strain on them and their economic resources just made no sense. These were people, these were warriors who gave a lot on the field and the NFL should have been taking care of them top to bottom. Absolutely. I mean, if you look at the statistics, 70 percent of the NFL players are Black, 60% of the retirees are Black, and yet they believe that white players were being approved for their settlements when it comes to dementia and the different medical conditions after they retired at three times the rate of Black players. So obviously there is indisputable discrimination there. And as Dr. Carr said, I think that putting it on front street, the level of insidious discrimination that black players were facing might have potentially
Starting point is 01:11:51 really turned black fans who really power and even some black athletes who power the NFL against the institution. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know because we didn't really stand with Colin Kaepernick like we should have. But that's another story. But this definitely is much more of an impact. And I think as as as as Lewis pointed out, there is a financial burden even subjecting ourselves to the test. And let's also just be honest what that racial formula does. That racial formula assumes that Black men are less intelligent. They have less faculties to start from. So that means that they have to prove an even bigger drop-off. That is dehumanizing. That is barbaric. And that is the definition of white supremacy.
Starting point is 01:12:40 And so it is a great thing that finally there's a step in the right direction. It still has to go through judge approval. And then it's a question mark of finally there's a step in the right direction. It still has to go through judge approval. And then it's a question mark of how it's going to be administered. There's going to be retests that are going to go on. So there's still some subject subjectivity to it. I'm sure some people will still be left behind. And I would especially like to see this particular couple of the Leonard's get approval because they are the forefront of, know really pushing for this but sometimes we know that the person who's the loudest and who champions it the most ends up being the one
Starting point is 01:13:09 that gets retaliated against so i certainly hope that's not the case with this situation but the last thing i'll say is because y'all brought up outfits and stuff like that y'all look good tonight y'all look very handsome i like that the and Faraji, I see you got a new hairdo. Oh, y'all looking good. Got some blackmail magic going on. So I had to shout y'all out. I had to shout y'all out. Y'all look good. We always look good.
Starting point is 01:13:35 We just try to keep up with you. Thank you. I'm just giving all y'all props. Faraji, I appreciate it. Faraji, your comment real quick on the race norm. Yeah, just real quick. I mean, I think that, you know, when you look at how these tests started back in the 90s and it questioned the cognitive functioning of black men, I mean, this is back in the 90s. This is not something when the NFL started. This is back, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:03 just a few, just about 20 years ago or so. So when you're talking about racism, it's this type of thing that racism runs so deep, it gets down to the very fundamental view that people have about black athletes. But one of the big things I think we need to look at is this ongoing pipeline that is from peewee football to the league. The fact remains that even in black communities, and I mean all folks that are watching, we have a son, a nephew, a grandson. We have continued to put that narrative in the minds and the hearts of black boys that a way to get out of the hood, a way to better your circumstances is to go to the league.
Starting point is 01:14:47 So if we're talking about fundamentally changing how the league look at black athletes, we have to fundamentally change our conversation and the narrative around black success that we often put that there so that way brothers really understand that your body is not to be used and abused by some institution that don't give a damn now now we have 70 percent and reese is right i mean 70 percent of the players are black in the league right now and so there has to be something some some some new um some new uh connections being made because they're warriors. They're putting themselves out there, but at the same time, if you have a league that doesn't show or care
Starting point is 01:15:31 about the players, then what are we doing this for? And so we do have to question that. And I hope that we don't let the foot up off the pedal. We need to keep the foot up their ass because the NFL needs to change fundamentally because of the power that the black athlete has. And more importantly, the bodies of the black athlete deserved better. Speaking of the NFL, Greg brought this up. I was like, calm down. I got this here.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Yeah. So, you know, the Raiders, it's been lots of drama. John Gruden's emails before he became the head coach of the Raiders. Also, the folks at FiveThirtyEight dropped a story today talking about how the Raiders had a significant number of black players on their team and that changed when John Gruden took over as the head coach. Well, the Raiders announced this today. Go to my computer, please. They announced that Grambling State University, this is a tweet from an NFL reporter.
Starting point is 01:16:32 The Raiders announced that the Grambling State University Tiger Marching Band will perform at a halftime of Sunday's Raiders-Eagles game at Allegiant Stadium. That, of course, is in Las Vegas. And the Raiders also announced that multiple Grammy Award-winning artist Yolanda Adams will perform the national anthem prior to kickoff of Sunday's Raiders-Eagles games. Adams performed America the Beautiful at Super Bowl. So I'm just, you know what? I don't even need to sit here, so let me just go ahead and sit back, Greg. You went ahead and went ahead.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Here we go. Give me this shot right here. Give me this shot right here. So, Greg, since you went ahead and brought that up, let me just go ahead and just get in a relaxed position so you can go ahead. Take the full screen, please, so we can go ahead and get the wide shot. Take the full screen. Greg, I'm just going to go ahead and let you just take it away right now
Starting point is 01:17:32 since you urgently wanted to say something. Go ahead. In class with Dr. Kong. In class with Dr. Carr. No, ma'am. No, ma'am. Listen, none of us are any Roland Martin. I certainly know Roland Martin. I know you would set this on natural fire. I just hope that and expect that the world famous Grambling State University band, you know, you know, we have our friendly rivalries.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I was in the Tennessee State Marching Band, but I hope the world famous Grambling State Band is getting a fat check. Because in the words of Frederick Douglass in What to the Slave was the 4th of July, he said, they that carried us off captive required of us a song. How can we sing our song in a strange land? We know who the raiders are. They are going to, I mean, talk about a bald, just a bald
Starting point is 01:18:18 face admission. We know we're racist. We know the league is racist. But we are going to try to cover this racist John Gruden and this whole fiasco and getting rid of black players with this fig leaf of Grambling State University. You know, they like those bands. So can we get one of those bands? And so I'm trying to remember President Grambling, Brother Shalott, is he an alpha or not? Because I know you can track the story down, Roland. You might get the number of the zeros on the check.
Starting point is 01:18:47 No. Right. The president of Grambling is a Kappa. I am. He gave me. I am an honorary drum major of the Grambling band. I got the jacket
Starting point is 01:19:03 to prove it. Wait a minute. Seriously? So let me just go ahead. Yes, yes. When he came on my News 1 Now show, presented me a Grambling jacket as an honorary drum major. The folks at Southern were not happy with that, but I had to remind the people at Southern, I have spoken on their campus and to the alumni, and they never gave me a jacket or a hat, but I ain't going to bring it up.
Starting point is 01:19:29 So let me go ahead and just, let me just go ahead and, let me just go ahead and unpack this. And I am not going to be critical of grambling, but what I am going to say is this, and I am going to be reaching out to the university president to find out what they are receiving. But I would hope that what Grambling is receiving is an eight-figure check. I would hope that Grambling said to the Raiders that if you all of a sudden want us to perform at the game, then not only do we want to see an eight-figure check to go to Grambling's, to go to the university, we want to see an additional stipend, an additional amount to go to the facilities of the Grambling football team.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I would hope that Yolanda Adams said to the Raiders, don't just provide monetary assistance to me. I would hope that you are going to fund music programs, specifically tailored to gospel at HBCUs. She is from Houston. And so how about the Raiders? You provide a monetary amount going to Texas Southern University in Houston and then another amount going to where Ruth Simmons is the president, Prairie View A&M University. Because let me be real clear to everybody who is watching. Blackness is always being monetized. Blackness is always being used to cover up the sins and omissions of others. In fact, we saw that just last week when the emails came out with regards to John Gruden and Bruce Allen, who was the president of the Washington Redskins. And then all of a sudden, out of the blue, out of space,
Starting point is 01:21:48 the Redskins announced that they were going to retire the number of Sean Taylor. The announcement was made on a Wednesday. The ceremony was on a Sunday. And the reason I know that's bogus is because normally when a team announces that they're going to retire the number of a player, it is a significant process. It is time. It is built up. Family is brought in. All of those things. in trouble, what they do is they want to reach out and how could we somehow get some black paint to cover up the blemishes that we have inflicted. Could we somehow get
Starting point is 01:22:35 some black tar? And let me be real clear, I'm not calling, grambling, or Yolanda Adams that, but let's patch up the sink hole in the street with some black tar. Let's somehow, you know what, when things don't look right, let's go to Home Depot. You know what, not Home Depot. Lowe's has a black CEO.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Let's go to Lowe's and buy some black tarp to cover it up so folks won't see the mess that we have created all I'm simply stating to my brothers and sisters is if they gonna call you to cover up a mess make them pay yes sir we're to go to a break when we come back. Tiffany Lofton has been in Oklahoma fighting for Julius Jones. We're going to go live to her. We're going to also hear from Kasim Reed here in Atlanta, who is running for mayor. Election is two weeks out. He got hit hard by the Atlanta NAACP president.
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Starting point is 01:29:36 We're all good. I got this. All right, y'all. Welcome back to Atlanta, where we have been here for the eighth annual Hope Global Forum. It's been fantastic. But we've still been covering the news happening all across the globe. We've been looking at what's happening in Oklahoma. Well, Julian Jones is facing an execution date.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Even though he has a clemency hearing, now he wants a federal judge to put a halt to that. Tiffany Lofton has been joining activists in Oklahoma for quite some time. She's been on the ground there raising awareness, fighting on behalf to get him freed. You remember the pardon and parole board recommended that his sentence be commuted. The governor, though, didn't want to act, saying, well, no, let's have a clemency hearing. But they still set an execution date. Tiffany Jones is right now from Washington, D.C. Tiffany, what was it like being down there and what exactly is the status of this case right now? Hey, Uncle Roland. Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me on the show. I miss you. I hope you're well. You look great. So I've been in Oklahoma now for about a month and a half working with the family,
Starting point is 01:30:42 both the sister Antoinette Jones and the mother, Miss Mandolin Jones, and her brother. All of the family is, they are Black folks. So the first thing is they are deep in prayer. They are extremely hopeful. And they are fighting to make sure that this innocent Black man comes off of death watch. Thank you so much. And the case that's happening right now on the ground is there's a lot of death watch. Thank you so much. And the case that's happening right now on the ground is there's a lot of coalition work. There are a lot of individual organizers who have been fighting
Starting point is 01:31:09 both the governor and the district attorney and the attorney general in this moment, because like you said, on September 13th, the pardon and parole board granted him a stay with the possibility of parole. Now, the pardon and parole board does not have the power to make the decision. They can only make a recommendation to the governor. And to be clear, I've been telling all of my people, this is why elections matter, because the governor has appointed the Pardon and Parole Board,
Starting point is 01:31:35 and those Pardon and Parole Board members don't make the decision. They can only have the power to make the recommendation to the governor. So as you said, Roland, the governor went back and said, I don't really, and let me be clear on why this happened. The district attorney represents the Howell family. Paul Howell is the
Starting point is 01:31:51 gentleman who was killed back in 1999. He was not killed by Julius Jones. His killer and shooter has already come out and said that he was the one that did it and that Julius is innocent. But like I said, David Prater, who is the district attorney, represents that family. And so because he would not want Julius to come off of death row, right, because he fought 20 years ago to make sure that Julius was the person that was held guilty and accountable for this case, he went and filed two things. One, he went and filed a recusal for two of the members on the pardon and parole board that voted yes to keep Julius alive. And that's a problem because there are only five pardon and parole board members. So if the district attorney says, I want two of them removed, that messes up the votes with the reality of what we're going to see again this upcoming Tuesday on October 28th. The second thing is the Attorney General O'Connor,
Starting point is 01:32:45 he also filed that same petition to the Supreme Court saying that two of those members have a conflict of interest. I don't have this on record just yet, but the rumor is that the reason why he filed that is because they are Christians and that their bias of being a Christian is going to get in the way of them making a sane decision for Julius. And so what we found out on Friday is that the Supreme Court denied the district attorney's request to remove those two people. But we are still waiting to hear back from the Supreme Court whether or not they're going to also deny the attorney general's request. That is where we currently stand. That pardon and parole
Starting point is 01:33:25 board is still planning on having a hearing on Tuesday. Thank you so much. It's still planning on having a hearing on Tuesday at 9 a.m. It is live. So if folks want to join us and watch, they are more than welcome. We're actually asking folks to join us in Oklahoma, in Oklahoma City on Tuesday at 9 a.m. But if they can't, sorry, Rolanda, I know you want me to sit down and do this somewhere safe, but you're not going to be moving because I'm working. It's all right. You're fine. You're fine.
Starting point is 01:33:49 You're fine. Okay, good. Look, look, I had Cliff Albright riding a bicycle, so you're fine. You did? I love my brother Cliff. Okay, so let me make sure my face is in this and people don't know where I'm at because I got stalkers. So what happens is this.
Starting point is 01:34:03 So what happens is the pardon and parole board is meeting at 9 a.m. on this Tuesday. OK, this Tuesday at 9 a.m. they will be meeting October 28th. This will be really important for folks to watch because it's actually rolling going to be Julius's first time testifying for himself. So what we know is that Julius's first round of legal support testified on camera. If you watch the Vice News video, he actually says that this, I can take this off now, this was his first time actually handling a death row case and that he was not prepared. He wished he had more time. He didn't know which questions to ask. And Roland, the worst part is this. He never put his family on the stand.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Julius was at home the night that Paul Howe was killed. And the best way to get that evidence and that information is to ask the people who were with Julius where he was at at the time that it happened. And so now at this hearing on Tuesday, Julius, who has been put on death watch as of last Thursday, is going to be able to testify and share his story for the first time in over 20 years. We're hoping that the five members will vote in the same direction that they were voting pending the Supreme Court responding to the attorney general about their demand to recuse two of the members. And I will be there in Oklahoma. I will be there outside with hundreds of community members, hundreds of civil rights leaders, hundreds of leaders, and, of course, the family to make sure that this goes in the direction it's supposed to go.
Starting point is 01:35:29 We don't just want Julius to not be executed. He is innocent. So we want Julius to be able to come home. All right. Well, Tiffany, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you for being there and giving us an update on the Julius Jones case. Yeah, go ahead. I want folks, if folks are looking to take action and they can't make it to Oklahoma,
Starting point is 01:35:50 I need them to go to freejuliusjones.com. Again, that is freejuliusjones.com. You can help us in two ways. You can find them to be a volunteer for us from a distance. And you can also call the governor and the district attorney and the attorney general and help us win this case and bring Julius home in time to celebrate the holidays with his family. Thank you so much, Roland. I love you and I miss you. All right. Appreciate it, Tiffany. Love you as well. We'll see you soon.
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Starting point is 01:38:16 What's going on, everybody? It's your boy, Mack Wiles, and you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks. We're here in Atlanta where there's a mayoral race. 14 candidates are running after Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms announced she was not running for re-election. One of the folks is the former mayor, Kasim Reed. Now, yesterday, man, you see the headline in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. It says, The Jolt Atlanta NAACP Pins Rare Repudiation of Former Mayor Reed.
Starting point is 01:39:02 It was a letter that was signed by President Richard Rose. He blasted, he had a laundry list of complaints against Kasim Reed, saying that he did not help low-income housing, focused more on the Mercedes-Benz Stadium development, didn't fight for HBCUs, and didn't remove Confederate monuments. Well, today, Kasim Reed stopped by our operations here in Atlanta, sat down with me and talked about
Starting point is 01:39:29 the criticism and why he decided, after serving eight years as mayor, to try to get his old job back. Alright. I can call you Mayor Reed or Kasim or future me. You're the former mayor. You can call me FF, future, former. I'll call you Mayor Reed or Kassim or Future Me. You're the former mayor.
Starting point is 01:39:45 You can call me FF, Future, former, all that. I'll call you Kappa. All those titles. I got to ask you, you were mayor eight years. Why? Why run again? The city is about to be broken apart. I mean, you've been in Atlanta for a little while.
Starting point is 01:40:00 You've got 20,000 people, 20% of the city and the community called Buckhead, that if a referendum were held today, 80 percent of them would vote to leave. That referendum will take place probably 10 months after the mayoral election. And the bottom line, Roland, is it's being driven by a 62 percent rise in crime and violence and 157 murders. And when I was mayor of the city, it was the safest city that it has ever been. It had been in 40 years to be accurate and so I had no intention of running from there wasn't making any plans to run at all. When Mayor Bottoms made the decision and not to seek re-election folks literally called me
Starting point is 01:40:40 overwhelmingly and said you know shit would I it? And then I had an incident involving my daughter when she was being dropped by her grandmother. Car was robbed within five minutes of them getting out of it. Police were slow to come because the force is down to less than 1,400 officers. Where my mom lives in Midtown Colony Square, a place that she goes called Chick Fil A, where she goes for her number one in the morning, 2 o'clock in the afternoon, they had a shootout. And so I kept seeing things that, when I was married, simply didn't happen. If you try to go to Lenox Mall right now,
Starting point is 01:41:14 you'll have to walk through a metal detector. You'll see gun-sniffing dogs in Lenox. You're familiar enough with Atlanta to know that's the equivalent of Pentagon City in D.C. It is a crystal city. It's the premium place. Right now, if you go to a gas station in Atlanta, everybody's head is on a swivel. Certainly women in the city of Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:41:36 And so that's why I'm running, because if we don't turn around crime and violence in a way that's consistent with who we are, right, not being some strong-armed person, but bringing normalcy and civility back to our town, Atlanta is going to break into two parts that are both weaker. And we're not talking about in a couple of years. We're talking about in 10 months. And right now, we need a steady, tested hand to come in and reduce crime in a way that's consistent with who we are. I think I'm that person. Now we need a steady, tested hand to come in and reduce crime in a way that's consistent with who we are. I think I'm that person.
Starting point is 01:42:08 And so far, in every public poll in this election that's not affiliated with a campaign, I've been in first place for the entire time. We look at around the country. You have Republicans who are battling Democrats in D.C. They say, oh, it's defund the police, it's the policies of Democrats. You talk to mayors. They give various reasons why these things are happening. You've got people who are saying, last thing we need to your point is somebody coming in
Starting point is 01:42:34 with the lock them up, throw away the key mentality. Why do you think the crime issue has escalated in Atlanta, like we're seeing also in some other cities as well. Yeah, but Atlanta's number one in the increase. So we're not just some other city. We're not Houston, which is up 24, 26. We're not LA, which is up 28, 29. We're up 62. That's closer to 100 than it is to zero. And so the police forces shrunk below 1,400 officers. And the population increased by 71,400 people. And the amount of crime has increased. The number of arrests has plummeted.
Starting point is 01:43:17 And so there's been a fracture in the relationship between the leadership of the city and the police department. And as a result, real violence is occurring and people are getting killed. I mean, I'm not going to take your views through the series of horribles that have occurred, but it's not just regular crime, Roland. It's crime that's extraordinary and unusual, people walking around with machine guns in backpacks kind of crime. A woman running by Piedmont Park being dragged into the park having her intestines removed and having her dog's head cut off. So this isn't any regular kind of crime. position in the United States as a unique city in America, really the cradle of black
Starting point is 01:44:05 leadership uninterrupted for 50 years is being put at risk. Atlanta used to be the place where everybody came and everybody felt terrific about it. JOHN YANG, Former President, United States Department of Justice and the U.S. Embassy in the United States. ALAN HOLLANDER, Former President, United States Department of Justice and the U.S. Embassy in the United States. JOHN YANG, Former President, United States Department of Justice and the U.S. Embassy in the United States.
Starting point is 01:44:21 ALAN HOLLANDER, Former President, United States Department of Justice and the U.S. Embassy in the United States. JOHN YANG, Former President, United States Department of Justice and the U.S. Embassy in the United States. ALAN HOLLANDER, Former President, United States Department of Justice and the U.S. Embassy in the United States. JOHN YANG, Former President, United States Department of Justice and violence. That's only happened in the last 20 months. JUAN GONZÁLEZ, So, how do you also balance the view of folks, the need for police reform? You have police departments that—you have police unions that feel as if, don't criticize us, don't hold us accountable. How dare you check us.
Starting point is 01:44:45 You had the situation where the officers who snatched the two students out of the car when they moved on and fired them, folks were like, oh, that was too severe. But then there were others who were saying, no, what they did was wrong. So how do you also—if you are reelected, how do you balance that, where the public says cops have to be held accountable for their actions, but then you still have the issue of community safety? DERRICK THOMPSON, That's a fair question. I think you do your job. We disbanded Red Dog, which was a very aggressive policing unit.
Starting point is 01:45:21 We decriminalized marijuana. We demanded body cams. We insisted if a police officer was involved in the shooting that a third party investigate it. We did all of that before George Floyd was murdered. So the way that you do it is to do it. Your relationship should be with your police chief. And, Roland, all people are really asking for, at least in Atlanta, I won't speak to other cities—they want due process. All of us know that if something happens to us in terms of our livelihood, we want to be assured that there will be a process, even if that process ends with you having to exit.
Starting point is 01:45:59 But it shouldn't be instant. And so what police officers, at least the ones that I've encountered, they understand that we need de-escalation training. They understand that they need sensitivity training. They understand that they need to be more aware of mental health issues. And what they want to be is they want to be trained, trained, and trained again. And I think we do our job. But I tell you what, a 62% increase in crime is causing 30% of the gross revenue of the city to want to leave. You're a successful businessman. If anything impacted your business 30% of the gross, it would be a top priority to deal with.
Starting point is 01:46:42 That's where we are right now. Violence is so bad in our city. And it's not just in Buckhead. It's everywhere. And when I was mayor, we made the city the safest city it had been in 40 years. And we did it in a way that was not inconsistent with our values. And that's why I'm running. You, the Atlanta NAACP recently launched a letter excoriating you, blasting
Starting point is 01:47:06 you for your leadership. Yes. And that's actually very uncommon for the NAACP to do that. First of all, have you communicated with local, with state, with national your thoughts on this attack on you and your previous eight years as mayor? My thoughts are that it comes with the territory when you're 14 days out from the election, and that gentleman is a campaign contributor to one of my opponents. And I think that he should have shared that when he made the letter.
Starting point is 01:47:40 But really, the substance of the letter is just easily demonstrably false with Google. I mean, once he—on one hand, he says, I didn't build any affordable housing in eight years. Give me a break. We increased the amount of people who had access to affordable housing by 25 percent. But I took over in the midst of the Great Recession during the mortgage foreclosure crisis, when thousands of homes were being foreclosed on. So that's just patently false. He said that I didn't support Morris Brown. My administration saved Morris Brown. We were the ones that, when Morris Brown was in bankruptcy, purchased the assets for $10.1
Starting point is 01:48:18 million so that Morris Brown would have cash to gain their accreditation back and to continue to operate. And so, on issue after issue in the letter, they're just flat-out falsehoods, which is what I find most unfortunate. What we are doing is, we had a very good conversation at 7 a.m. this morning with the national leadership of the NAACP, and I think that they're going to respond in a pretty decisive manner because the issues that they raise are just patently false and inconsistent with my record. And so this will happen. I don't think it overcomes people like Ambassador Young,
Starting point is 01:49:00 who is a civil rights icon in America, or Maynard Jackson III supporting me, or Bernice King supporting me, or the Atlanta Police Union, or the firefighters, or the workers asking me in City Hall. I mean, the number of folks who've endorsed my candidacy are overwhelming. And so I think that this just comes with the last 14 days of a tough campaign. But I do appreciate the opportunity to sit with you and address it forthrightly because it's just nonsense. Last question. Crime is one issue.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Yes. Economic development is another issue. But what do you say to the people? And I've heard this for years when I come here. Sure. That middle class, upper class black folks have benefited, others have not. How do you speak to that group to say, how do we raise, how do we deal with wealth inequality, how do we raise wages, how do we provide a step up the economic ladder for the folks who are not college graduates,
Starting point is 01:50:05 the folks who are not, as they claim, the so-called black elite? I think that we grow. You and I have been in the public space since we were very young. When I got elected mayor, I was 40 years old. So really I was metrics driven. I wanted to reduce unemployment, grow construction, have a big economy, do complex transactions that I thought moved the city forward. But I'm 52 today. And so I view this opportunity far differently. It's going to be much more people-centric, much
Starting point is 01:50:37 more human-centric. We're going to deal with crime and violence. That has to be done, because I don't want the city to break apart, because that will crush the budget of the Atlanta public school system. Can you keep Buckhead from splitting apart? I am highly confident that we will turn around crime and keep the city as one city. So that's my priority. But after that, we're going to focus on young people the way that you all do in Washington, D.C. Every teenager between 13 and 18 years old is going to have a job six
Starting point is 01:51:05 weeks a summer, making $15 an hour. We already raised the minimum wage in municipal government to $15 an hour. We're going to implement baby bonds in the city of Atlanta, so when a child is born in the city, we're going to set aside a pot of money, and when they turn 18, we're going to deliver that to them. We're also going to launch an initiative around a guaranteed income benefit. I don't know if the size will be for 250 families, 500 families or 750 families, but we're going to that space in a dynamic way.
Starting point is 01:51:41 And so what we're going to do is we're going to be people-centric, we're going to deal with crime and violence, but we're going to move away from the big projects and shiny things that we did like building a 1.7 billion dollar stadium or renovating State Farm Arena or the Ponce City Market development or over by the Atlanta Braves Stadium. And we're really just going to focus on building affordable housing that's high quality, using the land that the city owns outright to build it, make it less expensive, and arrange financing for working people to get out of merely having Section 8 vouchers to convert Section 8 vouchers to acquisition of the asset.
Starting point is 01:52:23 And we're going to create some real wealth. All right. Well, we'll be talking to some other folks who are running as well, 14 days out. You're back to the campaign trail, but we appreciate you taking time. Oh, man, I appreciate you. And congratulations on all the winning that you're doing. Never doubted it and have been rooting for you the whole time. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Black excellence represented. Appreciate it. All right, folks, that was Kasim Reed. And so there's some other candidates who are running for office. They've reached out to us. We'll be having them on Roller Martin Unfiltered in the very near future. All right, folks, got to go to a break. We come back.
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Starting point is 01:59:51 paroled by the end of this year. He will receive credit for the time he's already served. Folks, an update on the trial of the man accused of killing Ahmaud Arbery here in Georgia, in that it was day four of jury selection of those three white men accused of killing him. 15 potential jurors are advancing to the larger group of possible jurors who face more pointed questions. Defendants Travis McMichael, Gregory McMichael, and William Bryan Jr. are charged with murder,
Starting point is 02:00:21 aggravated assault, false imprisonment, and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment. The trio chased and killed Aubrey on February 23rd, 2020, while he was jogging in a South Georgia neighborhood. And so we're going to continue to, again, follow these story. Folks, Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms says a Utah laboratory is going to examine DNA evidence from the Atlanta child murders during the 1970s and the 1980s. Bottoms tweeted, city investigators were traveling to Salt Lake City to provide the evidence to a private lab. At least 29 black children and young adults were killed in the city between 1979 and 1981. Wayne Williams has long been considered the main suspect, but he has never been charged with a children's death.
Starting point is 02:01:04 Convicted in 1982 for killing two adults, William is serving two life sentences. This is really a big deal, Recy, because, again, he wasn't convicted for the deaths of those 29 kids. Now, folks here in Atlanta said, well, the killing stopped after he was arrested, but that doesn't mean that he was actually the one behind it. Right. Well, I think it's important that she's, you know, using the technology that we have available to take another look at the evidence. I mean, you guys probably recently heard about the Zodiac killer being discovered. Let's put some of that energy into discovering the people who are behind these murders as well.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Their lives mattered. And I mean, there's been a lot of attention to it, but there needs to be attention to it in terms of criminal prosecution and putting the resources behind solving what really happened. Potentially, Mr. Williams will be exonerated and they'll find the real culprit, or he will in fact be proven to be the person who's behind it. And then we can get some small measure of justice for the victim's families uh faraji and that's what the point what the families have long said is we haven't gotten closure because it hasn't been stated that he was indeed the actual one who killed our children and that's the sad part about this, Brother Roland. The fact is, there's a great documentary that HBO put out about this whole Atlanta child murders. It's called Missing and Murdered the Lost Children. They put it out just, by the way, about two years ago about this case.
Starting point is 02:02:38 And when you go into, when you look at the documentary, there are still big questions about whether Wayne Williams not only did it, but did he have the capacity to do it? I mean, 28 children and youth and a couple of adults within that number that was that has been killed. But this they were killed in a part of Atlanta. And this is this is the really the kind of crazy part about this whole this whole story. They were killed at a time when Atlanta, the black modern day Atlanta, was thriving. And these murders happened under the jurisdiction, under the administration of the iconic Atlanta mayor, Mayor Maynard Jackson. And so, you know, when you look at this documentary, when you start to research this case,
Starting point is 02:03:24 you really start to see that this was a major stain, I think, on the legacy of Maynard Jackson and the city officials at that time. When you had all of these black children that were murdered, Wayne Williams, they tried to get him on two cases, two of the murders. But there were, I mean, a number of people that say he didn't do it. He did not do this. And so I think this is a very cautionary tale about, you know, how we can get so caught up in innovation. We can get so caught up in thinking that things are moving forward and progress is being made. But in low-income, poor neighborhoods, in a lot of our major cities, things are happening, and we just don't know. The other part about this case was that when Maynard Jackson was the mayor, I mean, the police chief at that time was just, because of the pressure coming from Maynard Jackson and many other city officials, the police chief just decided, hey, Wayne Williams looks like the best
Starting point is 02:04:20 one in this case. But again, people are saying he didn't do it. He didn't have the capacity to do it. He wasn't smart enough to pull off something of this magnitude. So there are still a lot of questions. I'm glad that Mayor Keisha Bottoms is reopening this case by looking at the DNA. But I would highly suggest that people, especially folks in Atlanta, take a look at this situation because this could happen in other cities. And if we're not at least open and taking a look at this situation because this could happen in other cities. And if we're not at least open and taking a look at what's going on to poor black children in low-income communities, we'll lose sight and lose our humanity in the same process. This is a very, very tragic case about the loss and these missing and murdered children. Bottom line here, Greg, is you want to give some closure.
Starting point is 02:05:09 A lot of people who were alive then, I mean, let me tell you something. What happened here in Atlanta scared the hell out of black parents all across the country. Right. It did, Roland. I'll never forget. I was a sophomore, Hillsborough High School, and our civics teacher, Jeannie Scott, who's now retired, and ironically, her granddaughter is now at Howard University, sophomore at Howard. Ms. Scott wore the ribbon. We were in Nashville, and those children, you know, somebody, I'll never never forget a white teacher asked her why are y'all wearing those ribbons and i heard one of my classmates say i didn't hear what miss scott
Starting point is 02:05:51 said to her but i heard one of our classmates say to another of my classmates she's concerned about her children and she was talking about us yeah we all remember that um And Faraj, I'm glad you brought up that HBO special because one of the major themes in that multi-episode special is class. And this really ties to the interview you did with Kasim Reed. Atlanta was worried about its image because it was attracting the type of capital, the type of attention. Come on, Doc. But it is. And Buckhead's 80% white, y'all. And white folks want to leave Atlanta.
Starting point is 02:06:29 They've all went, all you rappers running out there to the jewelry stores in Buckhead and lacing yourself up just like modern-day minstrels. Listen very carefully to what I'm about to say. The critique of Maynard Jackson was that you're more concerned with attracting capital to this city than you are to people whose votes you want, but who don't have two nickels to rub together. Right. That's the critique of Kasim Reed. And the Atlanta child murders pull back the almost impossible geometry of race and class in a city run by black people where the ugly specter of how we treat each other when it comes to grabbing the brass ring when is concerned.
Starting point is 02:07:17 Those murders haven't been, this isn't just about bringing closure. This is about confronting the fact that unless, as you say, Farage, unless we all care about each other, none of us are going anywhere. I wouldn't want to be running for mayor of Atlanta because those black people who are poor have been taking ass whipping for decades. And this this case is really as much about that as anything else. So we certainly will wait results of that. Folks, today the U.S. United States House issued a subpoena for Steve Bannon. He has refused to appear before the January 6th investigative committee.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Republicans have been fighting on his behalf. The vote was 211 to 205. Nine Republicans voted with the Democrats to issue that subpoena. Here's Representative Demi Raskin, who just lit up Jim Jordan this week talking about this very issue, where he laid out why that thug Steve Bannon cannot be allowed to flout the United States Congress. Today, Donald Trump said the insurrection took place on November 3rd. No, Mr. Trump, I'm sorry. That's what we call an election in America,
Starting point is 02:08:29 an election that was validated by more than 60 federal and state courts, including before eight judges nominated to the bench by President Trump himself and all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, all of them rejecting every claim of electoral fraud and corruption that was advanced. We know an insurrection when we see one in this body because we lived through one. Under the banner of this continuing and deranged big lie, the Stop the Steal movement brought down a violent insurrection against this Congress and an attempted coup against Vice President Mike Pence.
Starting point is 02:09:05 They interrupted the counting of electoral college votes for the first time in American history. They caused the worst attack on Congress since the War of 1812, and they injured and wounded more than 140 police officers, Capitol officers, Metropolitan Police Department officers and others, breaking their noses, breaking their necks, breaking their vertebrae, breaking their arms, breaking their legs, breaking their hearts and their spirits. We are investigating the attack on American democracy because we are Americans. We are investigating the attack on Congress by domestic enemies of our Constitution because we are sworn to do so by our oaths of office.
Starting point is 02:09:50 But now the big lie has become a big cover-up. After being impeached twice by the House, after losing in 61 different courts, after seeing a 57 to 43 vote against him in the U.S. Senate in the most sweeping bipartisan Senate presidential conviction vote in American history, Trump now tries to get his followers like Steve Bannon not to testify here and not to turn over evidence that they have about this vicious assault on American democracy. In America, when you are subpoenaed to testify in court or in Congress, you show up, period. You can invoke your Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination to specific questions if you think you committed a crime. You can claim executive privilege to specific questions if you think you're president of the United States. But you cannot blow off a subpoena in America. You cannot sit on your couch and defy the people's representatives in Congress. So we must enforce the rule of law here, my colleagues. We must do it. If you act deliberately with sneering cavalier
Starting point is 02:10:58 contempt for the American people and their representatives, we will hold you in contempt. We will get to the truth of the violent assault on America. I yield back. What we're dealing with here, Recy, is real simple. Thugs willing to defend Donald Trump. And yes, this Congress and the DOJ must use every power they have to hold these thugs accountable. And they won't. Wake me when he is convicted of contempt or he's in jail, not going to happen. So, you know, Bannon and just like all Republicans know, they play chicken with the justice system because they know that the justice system is set up for them to succeed.
Starting point is 02:11:46 The law doesn't apply to them the same way that it applies to everybody else. And so he's putting his bets into the fact that either A, Merrick Garland won't do a damn thing, or B, he could win in the courts with the 200 judges that President Trump, I don't like calling him president, but let's say former President Trump, has stacked the courts with him. He might go all the way up to the Supreme Court, which he probably feels might be favorable to him. And so all he has to do is run off the clock on this and just bank on the fact that Democrats will move on to another topic and drop it.
Starting point is 02:12:17 And he's probably pretty safe in betting that. I'm not saying that as a mark against the Democrats. I'm just saying, look at the history of the United States of America. None of these folks, these Republicans, these co-conspirators of Donald Trump are walking around shaking in their boots. None of them are. He's already been pardoned by Trump. He doesn't have another pardon coming his way. But he knows the way that the system works. Look at how long it took for Paul Manafort to go through what he went through. Same thing with Roger Stone and the other band of thugs and criminals that got away with everything.
Starting point is 02:12:51 And so he doesn't have any fear. Why should he? He's a white man. He's wealthy. And worst case scenario, he flees the country for a year. So I don't think that's going to happen. That's an extreme situation.
Starting point is 02:13:03 Yeah, so he's not worried about it. Democrats, very simple Democrats, don't want to be as ruthless as the GOP, hold these folks accountable. They want to play footsie. Fine, you want to hold a hearing? No, I'm serious. Throw all these punk asses in jail.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Every single one of them. I'm trying to figure out, brother Roland, Reese and Dr. Carr, what's taking them so long? I mean, we've been talking about this, quote, unquote, assault on the seat of democracy for months now. And, I mean, yes, there have been a number of arrests that have been made. Folks have been questioned. But I'm talking about getting to the nitty-gritty.
Starting point is 02:13:44 The fact that former President Donald Trump even blocked, you know, made. Folks have been questioned. But I'm talking about getting to the nitty gritty. The fact that former President Donald Trump even blocked, you know, the House committee to look at the records of what happened on January 6th. I'm talking about his personal records that he's suing them and trying to stop them from doing that. That is an admission of guilt to me. And it shows that if we don't bring the hammer on this situation, this joker is going to run. He's already said it. He's planning to run in 2024. How is that going to happen? How do you how do you do that? How do you get into a situation, you rile up your supporters, they climb and scale the walls of Congress in the most well-armed place in America, quote unquote. And then you get off all of this stuff. Nobody can hold you down.
Starting point is 02:14:39 Nobody can, you know, charge you. Nobody can lock you up. And then you run for president again. Like this has got to be an episode from Black Mirror or Twilight Zone. This is just unbelievable. And the more and more that I hear people, the Democrats try to take this moral high ground, I'm telling you, the Democrats are going to lose in 2022, especially in 2024, because that more high ground is so blind to the fact that these guys are not playing for just positions. They're playing for keeps there. And as you always say, brother Roland, they're playing, they're playing for power. And that's
Starting point is 02:15:17 the end game. That's the end result at whatever cost that may come. That's all they want to get. They want to get back in power. Greg, what we're looking here is this took place on January 6th. It's October 21. Come on. Now just issuing a subpoena and holding Steve Bannon in contempt. Really? 10 months? Okay. They don't want to believe it, Roland. They don't want to believe it, Roland. They don't want to believe it. I mean, everybody watching this, and you're going to watch it later, there's nobody.
Starting point is 02:15:52 Roland's been making this point all along. There's nobody in the anywhere who are covering these issues the way they are being covered. Let's just look at the last two hours. You see, there is no such thing as American democracy. I like Jamie Raskin in the sense that, you know, some people might say, well, he's a patriot, he's a true American. No, there's no such thing as a true America. Jamie Raskin is behaving like a human being, a rational human being.
Starting point is 02:16:19 Just look at the last two hours of this show. You got Cliff Albright on a bicycle running from where John Brown tried to set off a rebellion to D.C. just to try to secure the right not to have a vote snatched away. You got Tiffany Lofton in Oklahoma trying to stop somebody from being executed by a governor and a bunch of white nationalists who are accusing two people who voted for him not to be executed of the crime of being Christians. You've got a guy running back again for the mayor of Atlanta who gave away $12 million and more in tax breaks
Starting point is 02:16:52 to build a spaceship in the shadow of Atlanta University Center, all in the hopes of keeping white people in the city who got money to keep the city together. And here we have the rule of law. And, Reesa, you nailed it. The law does not apply. But I would put the period there. Because, see, what is on trial right now is not just two sets of perspectives on the law. It is the concept of the law itself. See, once people understand that there are no rules, as Farage said, that this is about power, the minute people turn away from the idea of rule of law, this is what got John Roberts scared shitless. The monster he unleashed in 2010 with Citizens United is now too big for him to contain.
Starting point is 02:17:38 And he has watched three illegitimate Supreme Court justices appointed and realizes now, did I do that? Yes, it's over. Jamie Raskin is articulating common sense for anybody who would like to live in a society that has rules. But on the other side stand those who say there are no rules and we're going to show
Starting point is 02:18:00 you. Now what they haven't counted on is once you've broken it, in the words of General Powell, you bought it. We're on the precipice now, y'all. It's the fall of America. All right, folks, hold tight one second.
Starting point is 02:18:16 Real quick, real quick break. We come back. Crazy as white people. Wait till y'all see this one. My Lord, my Lord, my Lord. Back in a moment. Oh, that spin class was brutal. Well, you can try using the Buick's massaging seat. Oh, yeah, that's nice.
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Starting point is 02:19:46 but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Business Week editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 02:21:48 In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is.
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Starting point is 02:23:23 No charcoal grills are allowed. I'm not making news. I'm white. I got you, girl. the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Y'all, it's a little hard for me to explain what you're about to see. This actually took place in a classroom. This was a teacher. You know what? I'm just not even just going to even just play the video. Yeah. Hawks. Is that right?
Starting point is 02:24:01 What's that? Hey. So got to walk. So got to walk. So got to walk. So got. Hawks. Soca! Soca! Soca! Soca! Soca! Soca! Soca! Soca! Soca! And a bench like
Starting point is 02:24:36 I get to go home and I get all of my feathers and I get all of my feathers Soca! Soca! Soca! Soca! And I get all of my feathers. Help! Help! Y'all, this was not a history class. This was a math class in California where she was trying to teach her students a trigonometry formula. Her name is Candace Reed. She's been placed on administrative leave after putting on this display in front of
Starting point is 02:25:54 her students for nearly an hour. The Riverside Unified School District released this statement on the incident. A recording of one of our teachers has been widely circulated on social media. These behaviors are completely unacceptable and an offensive depiction of the vast and expansive Native American cultures and practices. Her actions do not represent the values of our district. The teacher has been placed on leave while the district conducts an investigation. Riverside Unified School District values diversity, equity and inclusion. Let's not condone behavior against these values. We are deeply committed to implementing inclusive practices and policies that honor the rich diversity for our district and the greater region.
Starting point is 02:26:33 We will be working with our students, families, staff, and community to regain your trust. Any one of y'all will just go ahead and... Well, I have to ask, is it crack? That's the only question i can ask i can only just ask is it crack lord have mercy that's that cali kush right there reesey that was that that was oh because i went to school in california and I got an egg in trigonometry and calculus and geometry and wasn't nobody doing it I don't know if she went to the Elizabeth Warren tribe
Starting point is 02:27:32 of teaching math or what but that ain't no California thing I don't know what she was on like I have to say is it crack that's the only explanation I have I mean crack man feels what? I'm trying to understand
Starting point is 02:27:49 how does that apply to trigonometry and y'all, she did it for an hour. An hour? That's the part. That's the part. She did it for an hour.
Starting point is 02:28:08 Like, read the room, lady. Your students were embarrassed for you. And whoever took the video, whoever took the video, like, what? I mean, for an hour? How long is class? Mm. Mm. How long is class? Mm. Mm. How long is class?
Starting point is 02:28:27 I thought class was, Dr. Carr, you know what I mean? Please, you're an educator. How long is the average class in high schools these days? That's a good question. Well, in the modified block, it could be 90 minutes. In modified block, it could be up to half. Yeah, yeah. That was something they introduced
Starting point is 02:28:45 when I worked for the School of Philadelphia in the late 90s to try to enhance. But it's a math class, right? And that, at least from the reports, and you helped me because you got an A in trig, Recy, so you probably, this whole notion of, is it SOHCAHTOA? It's some kind of mnemonic device.
Starting point is 02:29:03 Yeah, for sine, cosine, and tangent. I didn't need all that to learn trigonometry. I don't know what she was doing. Mokatoa, I don't remember all that. I remember please ask, please, what is it? Pim does please ask my dear Aunt Sally. That's what I remember. It wasn't no feathers and chanting and dancing around going on with all that.
Starting point is 02:29:24 Okay. Well, no, the reason I ask... Look, let me tell you something. No, Greg, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no. I was going to say was California is a multinational state anyway. And remember
Starting point is 02:29:37 Ice Cube and No Vaseline when he was roasting Dre and them in NWA? He's a yelling Compton, but you moved to Riverside. Riverside is like 5% black. And you got a high school of a couple of thousand students. She had her mask on, so
Starting point is 02:29:53 what worse might be that she might be in the category of the liberal whites. In other words, she's so out of touch that she can't even get why she did what she did was wrong. Because it ain't like there's a whole bunch of black people out there. But in all seriousness, though, like.
Starting point is 02:30:12 I just. No, I'm saying. That's literally, though. Go ahead. Go ahead, Reese. That's literally white violence. Like, it's so completely appalling.
Starting point is 02:30:27 You know, if there was a Native American student in the classroom to turn it into just make a complete mockery of it. Oh, okay, yeah, because I thought I read that. That a Native American student was like, really like, okay, at this point, this is like violence against me and my
Starting point is 02:30:42 identity, the way that she is making a complete mockery of it. So although I joke that is a crap, this is literally what happens and the way that our different, you know, beings are diminished in a way for entertainment value as a stick, you know, minstrelsy. It's so ridiculous and offensive and it's unnecessary it's unnecessary because you don't need to do all that to get people to remember trigonometry that's well come to you right now i still don't know what the hell they were talking about trigonometry and i can guarantee you if i had a teacher did that i wouldn't have learned a damn thing. And I just look, cause I look, I told him, I said, first of all, I couldn't stand tricking.
Starting point is 02:31:29 I couldn't stand trigonometry, geometry, or algebra. And I told all my teachers, this is look, I ain't going to use none of this. I said, so I was going to let y'all know. So I said, I don't know what the hell Pythagoras theorem going to do. I said, all I do know is I know how to count money and I can make money. So I'm just letting y'all know. I did. Y'all think I'm lying.
Starting point is 02:31:56 Look, man, when I was a, hey, hey, hey, you don't understand. I communicated my way to a passing grade in algebra in college because I know what the hell they were talking about. So I just did it. It didn't register at all with me because looks college wasn't nothing about getting a sheet of paper any damn way. OK, so I know, you know, when I when I was when I spoke at Stanford, a professor got mad at me, and they were like, oh, no. It's about the experience. I was like, damn that. I said I was at college to get a sheet of paper. And, look, I got great respect for professors and the work that they do,
Starting point is 02:32:39 but I wasn't trying to sit here and go through all. See, she would have got straight cussed out if I was sitting in that class. She would have got cussed out. But it just did. She would have got, I'm just letting y'all know, hashtag team whip that ass would have showed up to school that day. And then that would have been a problem. But that would have
Starting point is 02:32:57 been a problem. Because I'm just, you know, and I'm telling, because, see, I don't know about y'all. See, y'all probably, see, Greg, what was your grade point average in college? You probably had about a 3.99. Yeah, but I had a 2.5 coming out of high school. I didn't get serious about it until I, if it hadn't been for open admissions, I wouldn't be sitting here, brother.
Starting point is 02:33:17 Wow. See, we flipped mine. We flipped mine. We flipped mine. I had a 3.2 coming out of high school. Left college with a 2.0. Because I wasn't trying to go. No, here's why.
Starting point is 02:33:31 Here's why. I wasn't trying to spend. I was not trying to expend an additional amount of energy on the classes in college. I'm going to leave y'all with this one. I'm going to leave y'all with this one. I'm not lying. It's 100% true story. I was in, it was an English class, and they had all these damn, you know, reading 100 pages.
Starting point is 02:33:51 It was a Tuesday, Thursday class, which I think was like 8.15 to 9.45. And I would routinely get to that class about 20, 30 minutes late. And so we took a test. And so the professor, he said, I need to speak to you after the class. And so he then proceeded to rail against me, telling me he didn't appreciate me coming to class late. He didn't like the fact I didn't apply myself to the assignments. And I said, are you done? And he said, yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:20 I said, man, let me be clear. I don't give a damn about this class. I said, I'm going to let you know right now. I said, I need you to understand, man. I said, I had a job office when I was a freshman in high school, a freshman in college. I said, I went to a communications high school. This is what I'm going to do. I said, so the reading assignments you have, I can do this stuff when I graduate from college, okay?
Starting point is 02:34:39 I said, man, I'm here to get me a sheet of paper. I said, a straight sheet of paper, okay? I said, ain't nobody going to ask me about no damn transcript, about no grades, no nothing when I get out of here. I said, so let me be clear with you. I don't need no A. I don't need no B. I don't need no C. Hell, all I need is a D. I said, if I got a choice between your class and then working at the newspaper and refining my craft, I'm going to skip your 100 pages and work at the newspaper.
Starting point is 02:35:08 Man, he was so hot as hell with me. Yeah, I made a D in that class. Some of the next semester gave him the head nod. And you know what? His ass is probably looking at me right now, and I just want his ass to know. All of the stories you wanted me to read, I done read other books beyond that.
Starting point is 02:35:23 And guess what? I'm in the NABJ Hall of Fame, the Texas A&M Journalism Ring of Honor. Got four NAACP Image Awards. Got more than 40 other professional awards. And I said, you know what? On my way to become a millionaire. So guess what? I need to read them damn stories.
Starting point is 02:35:38 So it sounds like I made a good decision. Well, can I say, apparently I'm the only math person here. So I'll speak for the math people. No, no, no, no, no. You ain't the only math person. We know how to count money. That's math. Y'all know how to count money.
Starting point is 02:35:58 Y'all know how to count money. I stand corrected. But I'm just saying. But you go ahead and talk about all them useless. You go ahead and talk about all them useless useless. You go ahead and talk about all of them useless-ass formulas we don't use. Wow. Okay, a lot of the formulas are useless. Okay, be clear about that.
Starting point is 02:36:11 But I will say I got straight A's in all my math classes. I got an A in calculus and calculus one and calculus two at UCLA. I have a degree in business economics, a minor in accounting, and an MBA in finance. So as a math person, in addition to money-making math person, you don't need to do a damn fake Native American chant to get your point across, especially not for no hour. That's called having a mental breakdown in class, not teaching. Okay?
Starting point is 02:36:42 Yeah, no question. She didn't have a lesson plan. That's a whole, that, that, that's, that's a whole bunch of extra ass degrees. I mean,
Starting point is 02:36:50 you can go ahead. I'm just looking. One is fine. We ain't trying to go back and get all them extra papers. Cause I, I got shit to do. All right, y'all.
Starting point is 02:37:00 Uh, uh, it's been real. My wife, she's a professional student. She told me she was going. I said, don't you have like four or five of them things already? That's just too much extra paperwork. I'm good.
Starting point is 02:37:15 I'm good. I got stuff to do. All right. Greg Reesey, Faraj, I appreciate it. Y'all don't want to miss tomorrow's show. Unbelievable show. You're going to hear from John Hope Bryant, founder of Operation Hope, talking about this week what he wants to achieve with the Hope Global Forum.
Starting point is 02:37:33 Also, going to hear from Ambassador Andrew Young, y'all. A fantastic interview. He is 89 years young. He is feisty as ever. He used the N-word a few times in our interview. You know I almost said, Doc, I don't allow that. But he is Andrew Young. But y'all got to hear what he had to say.
Starting point is 02:37:51 He also, I asked him about Kevin Powell, what about Alfred Brothers, Greg, who did an interview where he felt that Colin Powell was not in touch with the black community. Andrew Young answered with a two-word answer. So y'all do not want to miss that. Also, the sister, who is the city treasurer of Chicago, I talked to her about the power that she is using to make sure these private equity folks are hiring black folks and they're spending money with black firms.
Starting point is 02:38:22 Y'all don't want to miss that conversation. Plus, the founder of The Gathering Spot talks about what they've done here in Atlanta, D.C., how they're going to be expanding all across the country. You'll also see the panel that I did here at Global Hope Forum talking about the C-suite executive and the new CEO of Edelman as a sister. She had a very candid conversation with John Hope Bryant. I was supposed to do the interview with her. I was late in the interview.
Starting point is 02:38:45 John took over it. But y'all don't want to miss all of that. Plus, the interview that I did 10 years ago with Colin Powell on TV One. You don't want to miss that as well. So folks, it's going to be a fantastic show tomorrow. I hope you enjoy it. And Greg talked about what you saw here. And I need everybody
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Starting point is 02:45:21 So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives.
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