#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Gov. Kemp attacks Abrams; NFL responds to Ga. voter law; Mlps top cop testifies in Chauvin trial

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

4.5.21 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Gov. Kemp attacks Abrams; The Urban League of Greater Atlanta is calling for widespread condemnation of Georgia's new voter suppression laws; NFL responds to Ga. voter ...law; Mlps top cop testifies in Chauvin trial; Black trauma watching Chauvin trial; Author Dorothy Brown talks "The Whiteness of Wealth"; How to get in shape now that covid restrictions are loosening; We'll honor the life of Washington Teachers' Union President Elizabeth Davis.Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered#RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:56 Republicans are big mad. They're really upset that Major League Baseball has canceled the All-Star game. And corporations are blasting Georgia Republicans for the voter suppression bill. Governor Brian Kemp, he is really upset at Stacey Abrams. And the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, is like, gosh darn it, I'm not going to throw out the first pitch
Starting point is 00:02:16 of the baseball game because I'm so upset. We'll talk about these spoiled-ass brats known as Republicans who are upset that we are fighting back. The Urban League of Greater Atlanta and other Georgia civil rights organizations sent an open letter to the state GOP and Brian Kemp, basically putting them in check, will be joined by the president with those details. Also, the Republicans in Georgia, they're saying, no more coke in the state capitol. I told you all, they're a bunch of whiners.
Starting point is 00:02:46 The murder trial of Derek Chauvin continues this week. Great testimony today, gripping testimony from the police chief of Minneapolis, saying that Derek Chauvin violated department protocols, as well as the emergency room doc saying, no, no, George Floyd did not die because of drugs. It was because of asphyxiation. Yeah, we'll show you that testimony. Also, we'll talk not die because of drugs. It was because of asphyxiation. Yeah, we're going to show you that testimony.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Also, we'll talk about the trauma black folks are feeling watching the trials. All right, folks, in our book club, you'll meet the author of White Wealth. She looks at how the tax code is rigged against black people. Plus, as the country reopens, are you feeling like you're not as fit and healthy as you should be? We also remember Elizabeth Davis, president of the Washington Teachers Association, killed in a car crash on Easter Sunday. Folks, it is time to bring the funk on Rolling Mark Unfiltered.
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Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best. You know he's rolling, Martin. Now. Martin. Y'all, excuse me about the whiny Republicans all across the country. They are so upset that corporations are protesting Senate Bill 202. The fight for voter rights continues.
Starting point is 00:04:38 On Friday, Major League Baseball announced they will be moving the 2021 All-Star Game and the Major League Baseball draft out of Atlanta in response to the new bill signed into law by Governor Brian Kemp. Poor little Donald Trump has said, no, we need to boycott Major League Baseball and the NFL and Coca-Cola and Delta. Whining, whining, whining. So on Saturday, Brian Kemp, he held a news conference
Starting point is 00:05:04 where he expressed his thoughts on the decision. And watch the black people standing behind him. Y'all know we had the little child, Janelle King, on the show. Her husband's out there and that other fool, Bruce Lavelle, you know, who's scared to come on here. Play this lying fool. Yesterday, Major League Baseball caved to fear and lies from liberal activists. They ignored the facts of our new election integrity law, and they ignored the consequences of their decision on our local community. Georgians and all Americans should know
Starting point is 00:05:40 what this decision means. It means cancel culture and partisan activists are coming for your business. They're coming for your game or event in your hometown. And they're coming to cancel everything from sports to how you make a living. They don't care about jobs. They don't care about our communities, and they certainly don't care about access to the ballot box. It's easier to vote in Georgia than it is in New York. Even more ridiculous is that MLB didn't cite a single reason that they disagreed with the bill in their statement.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Oh, really, Brian Kemp? Is that what you're saying? You really think that we haven't read the bill and all of the lying you're sitting here saying? You look like a damn fool. Stacey Abrams released a statement on Facebook addressing what Kemp said. Let's quote it. Republicans who passed and defended Senate Bill 202 did so knowing the economic risk to our state. They prioritized making it harder for people of color to vote over the economic well-being of all Georgians. Like many Georgians, I am disappointed that the MLB is relocating the All-Star game. However, I commend the players, owners, and league commissioner for speaking out.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I urge others in positions of leadership to do so as well. As I've stated, I respect boycotts, although I don't want to see Georgia families hurt by lost events and jobs. Georgians targeted by voter suppression will be hurt as opportunities go to other states. We should not abandon the victims of GOP malice and lies. We must stand together. Georgia Republicans must renounce the terrible damage they have caused to our voting system and the harm they have inflicted on our economy. Our corporate community must get off the sidelines as full partners in this fight, acknowledging the provisions of SB 202 do not
Starting point is 00:07:31 expand voting rights. They restrict those rights affecting employees and consumers alike, and leaders must publicly support the voting rights provisions in the For the People Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act to mitigate the harm being done in Georgia and other states. Kind of real clear what's going on here. So why are they acting so butthurt? Because people decide to use their power. Now, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell also released an internal statement via email to his employees that addressed the bill. This is what it says. Pull it up, please.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I know that a number of you have asked questions about the recent Georgia legislation. Guys, we should make this much larger. Nobody can read this, so why are we even showing it? This is way too damn small. Other states are considering voting-related legislation as well, and we can expect that these bills will continue to generate commentary and controversy, particularly in our current highly charged political environment. We know that the right to vote is fundamental and is at the core of our democracy. We will always support this right, and the NFL has done so in a comprehensive and thoughtful way. Together with our players and so many of you,
Starting point is 00:08:45 the NFL and its 32 clubs show true leadership through our NFL Votes Initiative. And it goes on and on and on. So now they're upset with them as well, okay? Now Georgia Republicans are demanding the removal of Coca-Cola products from their offices after the CEO, James Quincy, spoke out against the bill last week. Okay, I thought they were against cancel culture.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So really what they're saying is, we don't like cancel culture when you cancel us, but we're going to cancel everybody else. Hmm. The Urban League of Greater Atlanta is calling for widespread condemnation of Georgia's new voter suppression law. Joining us now is Nancy Flake Johnson, president, CEO of the Urban League of Greater Atlanta. Nancy, I got to say, it has to be disheartening to watch these spoiled brats, these grown men and women, step forth and lie. Let's just be real clear. If Republicans did, if they did not lose both Senate seats, if Trump
Starting point is 00:09:47 had won Georgia and not Biden-Harris, none of this would be discussed. None of this would be talked about. There would be no bill. They are mad. They are spoiled brats. They're mad because they lost.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It's evidenced throughout the bill. So, Roland, what many people are talking about are the I.D. provisions that are certainly going to make it more difficult for 200,000 Georgians. That's a lot of people. It's a small fraction of the population, but it's probably some of the most disenfranchised people in our population, younger voters and senior citizens. Now, the way that the state,
Starting point is 00:10:36 the governor is trying to make the case that that really is not a big deal, they've taken away the fee, it's gonna be free, all that's fine and good. But the important provisions that the governor has not spoken about publicly that are the most egregious in the bill has to do with taking over local election commissions. That is the most dangerous thing contained in the bill. Two things. The other thing is that the secretary of state has now been stripped of the majority
Starting point is 00:11:12 of the secretary of state's power. Now that we know, you said it, it's likely a retaliation tactic for the secretary of state of their party to stand up and validate an election that had no fraud. Multiple recounts, multiple lawsuits all came to the same result, that this was the most error-free, the lowest error rate in the history of the state with the highest turnout. So the real important issue here is all of them are important collectively because they are designed to make it harder for people to vote. But the most important thing is that the state legislature that is a majority GOP legislature now has the power to take over a local commission
Starting point is 00:12:18 and the election process. And you can only extrapolate to say that they could potentially then overturn an election. That is the most egregious thing in this bill, and it's the thing that people are talking about the least. See, here's the whole deal, okay? And Republicans and I have been sitting here listening to all these people, and they always resort to, but what's wrong with voter ID? Okay, they always go through that.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I did an interview earlier with David Brody on this show, aired on Newsmax, and it was really laughable because he talked about how this bill expands voting. I said, David, this is dumb. I said, you're literally getting rid of 80% of your drop boxes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I said, your drop boxes now will be inside. You now can't drop your absentee ballot off anytime you want to. You have to only drop it off between 9 and 5. The law also says that if I was a voter and I dropped it off, if I have a child,
Starting point is 00:13:20 a niece or a nephew, a mom or a dad, I can't actually get their ballot and drop it off. No, because the law says, no, only you can drop it off. So who the hell do they think they're fooling? They keep saying, you haven't read the bill. You haven't read the bill. You haven't read the bill.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah, we read the bill, and it's trash. It is. Oh, they can nitpick and pull some small provisions out. There's an extra Sunday for voting. But the truth of the matter is, we go from, I think it's 98 drop boxes down to 33 drop boxes. And we're still in the middle of a pandemic, and we don't know when the pandemic will be over. So you put the boxes inside a building that closes at 5 o'clock. What about all the working people?
Starting point is 00:14:11 The majority of this state are working people who will need access to those boxes. It's all, I've just never seen such blatant, well, I guess we have. We've seen it for the last four years, blatant falsehoods, either by omission or by direct attribution. And so at the end of the day, what we want, we are grateful for you and others to make sure people understand the full breadth of the bill. And it's the takeover provisions that would enable a party in power to take over, say, Fulton County elections and conceivably could change the outcome. Now, you remember,
Starting point is 00:14:56 former President Trump called the governor. He called the secretary of state. It's recorded. We've all heard it. They were asked to find 11,000 votes for clearly the purpose of overturning an election. The real question is if this law had been in effect at that time and that call was not made public, could the state legislature have gone into Fulton County or any county
Starting point is 00:15:29 where there's heavy population of African Americans or other people of color and disputed arbitrarily ballots to come up with this 11,000? That's not a lot of votes when you've got 159 counties. So we're, Black people are 32% of the population in Georgia. The Latino population is about 10%. And you add in Asians, we're almost 50% of the population of the state. So what is the motivation for these sweeping changes if there was no fraud?
Starting point is 00:16:08 It's clear. It's racially motivated, and it's motivated to have control over future elections, and we just can't let that happen, not here in Georgia and not anywhere. Well, it is interesting to see the whining of Republicans. And I'm really getting a kick out of, oh, we want to get rid of Coca-Cola in the state capitol. There's a lot of retaliatory politics that plays out in our state. When Delta stepped up, and I believe it was 2016, against the Religious Freedom Act that was going to discriminate against our LGBTQ citizens, when Delta Airlines stood up for that, they actually passed a bill that took away some of their tax benefits on a fuel tax or assessed a tax. Punitive politics. Is that what democracy is all about?
Starting point is 00:17:14 You don't do what I say. I punish you. And that's exactly what's happening with this legislature right now, with the fact that they are almost a supermajority. So we've got a lot of work to do on the ground. We've got to get, for now, this is law. The businesses, the chambers, they put general statements out, but none of them stood strong, but very few, rather, stood strong before the bill was passed and put a stake in the ground in terms of their opposition to the bill's content. I will also say, though, the legislature made so many changes, it was hard to keep up, even for the ACLU, who's a big partner of ours, and the NAACP, who are at the Capitol every single day.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Well, it was a two-page bill that went to 100 pages overnight. Exactly! And he signed it faster than ever, I think, in history. There's usually a legal review. The governor has 30 days to sign a bill into law. But this was done immediately after the vote. The tactics are clear.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Well, all right. Well, look, we're going to keep putting the pressure bottom line and they can be mad at all the corporates that they want to, but it's going to be real simple. If you don't say something, we're going to penalize you. Simple as that. Pure and simple. Got to do it.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And the real scary part, Roland, before we go, this is happening not just in Georgia. Yeah, it's all over. It's happening everywhere. It's all over. Absolutely. Well, we certainly appreciate it. Nancy Flake Johnson, President and CEO of the Urban League of Great Atlanta. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Thank you. Let's go to my panel here. Joining me right now is Cleo Monago, political analyst who joins us. Also, we have Theresa Lundy, principal founder of TML Communications, and of course, Michael Brown, former Finance Committee Chair of DNC.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Y'all, I love this one here. Y'all, I got to reach out. So, Texas Governor Greg Abbott sent this weak-ass letter to the Texas Rangers baseball team. Dear Mr. Liebman, this is addressed to Mr. Neil Liebman. Thank you for the invitation to throw out the first pitch at the Texas Rangers home opening game. I was looking forward to it until Major League Baseball adopted what has turned out to be a false narrative about the election law reforms in Georgia. And based on that false narrative, moved the MLB All-Star game from Atlanta. It is shameful that America's pastime is not only being influenced by partisan political politics,
Starting point is 00:19:53 but also perpetuating false political narratives. The state of Texas was proud to help MLB host last season's National League playoff games and the World Series in Arlington. However, I will not participate in an event held by MLB, and the state will not seek to host the All-Star Game or any other MLB special events. This decision does not diminish the deep respect I have for the Texas Rangers baseball organization,
Starting point is 00:20:19 which is outstanding from top to bottom. I wish the team great success this season. Teresa, I've never seen a bunch of weak-ass, impotent people. There's no group who thinks they're bigger victims than the Republican Party. Oh, my God. Everyone, this is... These are election reforms.
Starting point is 00:20:51 No. This is promoting the big lie. This is all about kissing Trump's ass and the crazy, deranged, sick, demented people who support him. They are angry that they lost. And so what they want to do is cheat. They're trying to cheat in your state by literally getting rid of statewide elected Supreme Court justices
Starting point is 00:21:19 because they're mad with their judicial decision. These people love to talk about judicial activism. What they're saying is, if it don't go our way, we are not, we're going to change the rules. They're spoiled brats. Yeah, and I've never seen anything like it. I think this is a moment in history where we're starting to see the case study really unfold, starting in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Then, of course, you got Arizona, Michigan, and, of course, my hometown of Pennsylvania, where we've seen, you know, Republican legislators have been ruling for decades. And so because of this election, I think they have now become emboldened. So once we saw, you know, Trump lose the election, I believe all that money that Trump was raising for the campaign also all spread to start other committees so they can do voter suppression laws. Georgia is really the case study that I think everybody is paying attention to and also seeing what works and what doesn't. So I think every state and every legislator that is Democrat,
Starting point is 00:22:26 and also those who are Republican who know this is wrong and really want to get on the right side of change, really need to start understanding that this is coming to a state near you. And we also need to prepare ourselves by not just being on the defense mode, but also finding some solutions, also using their power of the pen to really ensure that the democratic process is not only a fair one, but a just one for future generations to come. Here's the whole deal for me, Michael. Now their new one is, okay, I mean, look at the laws in New York.
Starting point is 00:23:07 We're going to change those too. I mean, that to me is what's hilarious. This new complaint, well, there are more early voting days in Georgia than there are in New York. So you think actually endorsing, I mean, there have been progressives who have been advocating for a very long time a change in New York's archaic voting law system. Y'all, that ain't one to stand on.
Starting point is 00:23:36 No, it's not. And, you know, the whole politics of, you know, how it intertwines with sports, you know, we've always had civil disobedience and certainly athletes and celebrities standing up. But I don't know if it ever really transcended like it did during 45 years after, obviously, Colin Kaepernick took his knee
Starting point is 00:24:00 and then told him to fire all the sons of bitches or whatever 45 said. It became a different kind of, you know, more in the gutter about athletes and celebrities. I know that the right thinks that most athletes and celebrities are Democrats or on the left. And so they take hits at that. But it doesn't help to the, you know, the first part of your question of the segment. It doesn't help when leaders, when business leaders kind of get very marshmallow-ish when these issues pop up. There's no reason in the world, obviously, whether it's Delta, Coca-Cola or a host of other companies that are based in Georgia, saw this coming.
Starting point is 00:24:41 They knew that the governor was going to sign it. So there's that like it came as a shock. So those first statements that came out that I just call a little marshmallow-ish, frankly wrong, and then they had to backpedal. And if you're a Republican or a right leader, you know they're going to act marshmallow-ish, so you're able to bully them, too. And that's what happened. And so until you stop being marshmallow and come out and really take a stand and really, you know, and then you can't just threaten to leave or threaten to do something. You have to do it.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's really the only thing that's going to matter to folks. Not that they care about a lot of those jobs, even though they, again, think. The perception is that a lot of those jobs at the airport and at the Coca-Cola bottling plants are people of color and low-wage earners, so they don't care about them. That's not true. There are a lot of white folks that work at Delta and a lot of white folks that work at Coca-Cola. So, obviously, the hypocrisy is ridiculous, but until business leaders stand up, this kind of behavior is going to continue. Look, this is real simple, Cleo. If y'all don't want corporations coming after you, if y'all don't want the woke mob coming after you,
Starting point is 00:26:01 how about you not embracing white supremacy? How about that? Let's do a trade-off. Let's do a trade-off. Let's do a trade-off. We won't cancel your ass if you don't embrace white supremacy. I think that's fair. You're being so mean to these poor Republicans. No, I don't
Starting point is 00:26:17 give a damn about any of them. I don't give a damn about any of them. I don't either. I don't either. I'm being somewhat sarcastic, though. You are being mean, but I agree with the mean. Yes, I'm being very mean. I'm being very petty. Because they are trash, despicable people who are also sore losers.
Starting point is 00:26:33 You got your ass whooped. Here's the whole deal. Okay? You're mad? You got your ass whooped. Take your L. But as you know, these people always get mad, and they've always gotten mad, and they always have started saying stuff like,
Starting point is 00:26:53 this guy just said that because of Stacey Abrams and Biden's lies, the team left Atlanta. It's just, it's not logical. But we'll see how this rolls out ultimately because they've been lying and being illogical and moving the goalpost and saying things that aren't true. I mean, Donald Trump, the former president, lied all the way to the White House and lied all the way in the White House. And from my perspective, if it wasn't for COVID-19, he would still be in the White House. So it would be interesting to see how this all rolls out, because despite white supremacy, these people who love white powers, despite their kicking and screaming,
Starting point is 00:27:28 it seems that they're losing. It seems that they're losing based on voting and all logical things. But the lies have worked for them. And mixed messages and stretching the truth has worked. So the fact that he hasn't finished singing. We'll see how it goes.
Starting point is 00:27:48 See, that really is what we're dealing with here, Teresa. And I need people to understand, everybody who's watching, who's listening, to understand, these evil, demented people will
Starting point is 00:28:03 use the power of the office to exact revenge on anyone. Mitch McConnell came out with a statement saying, you know, it's grossly unfair what these companies are doing and they should keep their nose out of politics. And here's what I find to be interesting. But y'all don't mind their money. Y'all, because, I mean, y'all were the ones who push, of course, that corporations are people to allow all of this unregulated money in politics. Oh, so, and then, so now, so here's the quote this fool gave to Politico. Y'all go ahead. Corporations will invite serious consequences if they become a vehicle for far-left mobs to hijack our country from outside the constitutional order.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I'm sorry, Mitch. You can't have it both ways. You can't support Citizens United, which the Supreme Court deemed the corporations are people, and they get to have a voice in politics, oh, I'm sorry, but then you mad. Boo, then you mad. Because they now speaking against something you like. So they were your bae yesterday.
Starting point is 00:29:21 They were your political bae yesterday when. We all were getting all that money. AT&T is giving more than five hundred thousand dollars to Republicans in Texas. And then then Governor Dan Patrick, they should keep their nose out of it. But but but but you got one hundred and fifty thousand from them. So which is it? Which is it? Which is it? Would you like for them to be in essence your hoe?
Starting point is 00:29:52 I guess Republicans are saying we want y'all to be our hoe. Give us your money and then shut up. So I guess the Republican Party really desires to be pimps. Y'all want to take the money, but then they can't talk back. That's probably the best analogy I can come up with for today's Republican Party.
Starting point is 00:30:18 That Republicans are pimps. Yes, they're pimps. They're pimps, and they want, they want, they hose to be quiet. Yes, I said it. And essentially corporations are in a very difficult spot being the, you know, prostitutes of the pimps, because, you know, for a very, very long time, corporations, you know, have been able to donate behind the scenes to campaigns. They have been able to support their candidates, you know, under different IEs. And I think now people are starting to take with all these websites and blogs and, you know, laws that you have to expose and basically tell all everything that's on a financial report. I think it's putting them in a very difficult spot where they have to make a decision. And they're like, we have to make a decision that hopefully
Starting point is 00:31:11 doesn't hurt our business. But in this space, and because of the type of products that they're serving and the type of leadership, there's no longer business as usual because everybody is doing good government. People are starting to look into some of the accounts and some of their positions. So it's just not enough to spend a half a million dollars on black and minority communities. And then it's not OK to help voter suppression. So I think a lot of social justice organizations and groups are really pulling their feet to the fire, same way you're doing, Roland, because if we don't, they'll continuously do the backdoor type of investment where they think it's in their better benefit.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So really, they're really playing, you know, bad politics when they're not really listening to the concerns of the people that they employ and those they elect probably personally, but not publicly. I love this quote here, Michael, from Mitch McConnell. Parts of the private sector keep dabbling in behaving like a woke parallel government. Corporations will invite serious consequences if they become a vehicle for far left mobs.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So he called them behaving like a woke parallel government. But again, lead pimp, you like they money. See see it's a little hard for me michael to listen to somebody uh these corporations now y'all need to shut up y'all need to be quiet but you like their money and that's how it's uh you know frankly um has is, and will continue to be. But that's where the... I'm not necessarily upset that AT&T gave $500,000 to Texas Republicans. I am. That's, you know, that's not...
Starting point is 00:32:58 And I know that's not where you are either. That's not where we are. The issue is, if I'm writing that check for $500,000, you better believe, actually, I'm going to say something. Right. That gives me more of a right to speak up. So, frankly, I don't know why you—the better comment from Leader McConnell should have been, oh, you know what, I appreciate your thoughts. We take it under advisement. Or something like that. Not what they're saying because it is
Starting point is 00:33:25 so tired. And it's going to continue to be tired because they didn't like losing. They never thought they were going to lose those last two Georgia seats. They never thought in a million years, maybe they were going to lose one of them. But not both.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And so I think that sent a shell shock, obviously, to the Republicans. We have to do something. We can't have all these black and Latino folks voting. That is not an option. We have to restrict it as much as we can, because I don't know if Biden's going to guess what they're saying. Their calculus is, I don't know if the Biden-Harris administration will have the courage to get rid of the filibuster to fix voting rights. That's what they're counting on. Now we'll have to wait and see what happens. By all minds here, Cleo, we should be using everything in our arsenal, everything, because what these people are doing
Starting point is 00:34:17 is nasty and despicable. I remember what they did in North Carolina, how they specifically targeted black voters, and that was ruled unconstitutional. And it was way beyond a voter ID. That's the little cover they love. Oh, you need an ID to go into the mall? Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And I say, we ain't falling for the okey-doke. OK? And my whole deal, and then the whole deal, but you haven't read the bill. Yes, we've read the bill. And the bill is trash. Call it for what it is. I agree with you, Roland, that they're dangerous. And again, I hate to sound so vague,
Starting point is 00:34:50 but I'm waiting to see what happens because, you know, I haven't been on your show in a while, and I'm back on the show at least today, and I'm hearing the same old issue around these white power mongers manipulating. I think the term pimp is appropriate, because pimps are people who bully, who manipulate, who make false information up to make their victims confused.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And that's why these people are using terms like, what do you say, far-left mobs? They're trying to make people on the left sound like mean monsters who are coming to get you. And it's the same type of language that Trump used. And we will see how it rolls out, because it's worked for them in the past. Yes, we have seen some major changes based on the vote, based on the fact that, for example,
Starting point is 00:35:41 even though Trump had like, what, 73 million people who voted for him and a few more voted for a few million more voted for Biden and Kamala, we still are in a heap here. The fight is not over. So I hope people realize that, like you said, we need to hang in there. We need to fight. We need to resist. And we need to be steadfast because people like Brian Kemp, they're all over this country and they're sending out mixed messages. They're pimping, and a lot of people get intimidated and become prostitutes for them, if you will. And some of these people in these corporations are trying to figure out what to do,
Starting point is 00:36:21 Delta, et cetera. They're trying to go where they can keep their head up and get support from the government and stay in position, but they're not necessarily supportive of Black folks and Black people having power and equity. So it's a chess game. And we will see what happens. Again, when Biden, excuse me, when the governor of Georgia blames Biden and Stacey Abrams for the people leaving, the sports team leaving, that's manipulation. That's them doing what they do.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And we'll see how it rolls out. Well, bottom line is this here, they better get used to more folks walking with their dollars because guess what? Y'all can't shut us up. And we're not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:37:07 So I'm just letting y'all know. Get used to it. We're going to keep wearing that ass out. We're going to keep it up. And if it causes you to lose money, guess what? You knew that before you passed the bill. But you still chose to pass the bill.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And we're going to wear that ass out, and because you lose more money, so be it. I think the spoiled brat metaphor is kind of problematic because calling us spoiled brats implies that they're just children having tantrums. And I think this is war. Oh, first of all, I've always called it war. But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:37:50 you're a spoiled brat when you're like, oh, we lost, and it was a lie. It was voter fraud. Where's your evidence? Well, I don't have any, but there were buckets and buckets and buckets and bags and truckloads of ballots that were shipped in. They were just voting like crazy in Fulton County.
Starting point is 00:38:12 We have no evidence of that. And actually, Republicans say it didn't happen. Yeah, but no. They want control no matter what. Oh, no doubt. No doubt they want control. No doubt. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:38:27 But the bottom line is here. We're going to call out every lie. Every lie we're going to call out. Every lie we're going to call out. Got to go to a break. We come back. Today's testimony on Derek Chauvin murder trial. We'll break it down for you.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Talk about getting called out by your former police chief. Yeah, that's what took place in today's trial. We'll show you next on Roller Mark Unfiltered. Cancel culture. The cancel culture. There is a vast and thriving right-wing cancel culture. She said something the cancel culture doesn't like. This is the number one issue for the country to address today.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Cancel culture has become a Republican talking point, which pretty much guarantees it's been taken out of context to perpetuate their constant victimhood complex. But the idea that the public is turning its back on Republicans because of cancel culture is ridiculous. Now, it's time we stop using that term. Accountability culture is accurate. Consequence culture is accurate. If any occupation
Starting point is 00:39:26 in America should be subjected to the whims of the public, it's our elected officials. If Donald Trump or anyone, for that matter, gets voted out of office, it's not cancel culture. It's democracy working as intended. And listen, the consequences can be far greater if we don't hold politicians accountable for their actions. Allowing people in power to chip away at our democracy, support white supremacy, or harass teenagers in the street completely unchecked? Well, that will most definitely alter your life. And while cancel culture is not the number one issue of our time, accountability culture for elected officials should certainly be up there on that list. And boy, do I understand why these mostly white conservative men are scared shitless. They've enjoyed an era of zero accountability with zero consequences.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Sorry, we've all decided that era is effectively canceled. I'm Deion Cole and you're watching... Roland Martin, unfiltered. Stay woke. Well, folks, today was day six of the Derek Chauvin murder trial taking place, of course, in Minneapolis. It was gripping testimony today as the police chief of Minneapolis spoke, as well as the doctor, the emergency room doctor that treated George Floyd when he was taken in.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Here is a roundup. Did you receive any information or indication from the paramedics when they brought Mr. Floyd in that anyone had attempted CPR on Mr. Floyd at the scene on May 25, 2020? Overruled. I did not receive a report that Mr. Floyd had received bystander CPR, no. Did you receive a report that he had received CPR from any of the officers who may have been on the scene on May 25th, 2020? No. Is the administration of CPR right away important for you to know when you're dealing with a patient who has suffered cardiac arrest? Is it important for you to know about that? It is in the sense that it informs the likelihood of survival. And what do you mean by that, Dr. Langenfeld?
Starting point is 00:41:57 It's well known that any amount of time that a patient spends in cardiac arrest without immediate CPR markedly decreases the chance of a good outcome. Approximately 10 to 15 percent decrease in survival for every minute that CPR is not administered. And doctor, was your leading theory then for the cause of Mr. Floyd's cardiac arrest oxygen deficiency? That was one of the more likely possibilities. I felt that at the time, based on the information I had, it was more likely than the other possibilities. And doctor, is there another name for death by oxygen deficiency?
Starting point is 00:42:48 Asphyxia is a commonly understood term. Thank you, Dr. Langenthal. No further questions. Training is absolutely vitally essential to us as a department. And officers are paid while they're being trained, is that correct? Yes, they are. And would it be fair to say that part of the objective of training is to impart Minneapolis Police Departmental policies onto the officers so that they know what those policies are and are able to apply them? Yes, it's important through training that we're reemphasizing not only our policies,
Starting point is 00:43:26 but really our values as a police department and what our community expects of us. It's to help our officers and it's also to help our communities at the same time. Does Minneapolis Police Department currently have a de-escalation policy? We do. And I guess is it an either-or alternative? Is it like you either de-escalate or use force and once you start using force you just give up on de-escalation? The goal is to resolve the situation as safely as possible so you want to always have de-escalation layered into those actions of using force. Do you recognize Exhibit 17 to be an image taken from the bystander video that you reviewed? Yes, I do. Now, sir, based upon your review of all of the information that you just mentioned,
Starting point is 00:44:33 do you believe that the defendant followed Departmental Policy 5-304 regarding de-escalation? I absolutely do not agree with that. How so? That action is not de-escalation. And when we talk about the framework of our sanctity of life and when we talk about the principles and values that we have, that action goes contrary to what we're taught. As you reflect on Exhibit 17, I must ask you, is this a trained Minneapolis Police Department defensive tactics technique?
Starting point is 00:45:13 It is not. Well, we read the departmental policy on neck restraints. Is this a neck restraint? The conscious neck restraint by policy mentions light to moderate pressure. When I look at Exhibit 17 and when I look at the facial expression of Mr. Floyd, that does not appear in any way, shape, or form that that is light a problem. And I think that is a problem that Mr. Floyd that does not appear in any way shape or form that is like to moderate
Starting point is 00:45:50 pressure. so is it your belief then that this particular form of restraint if that is what you will call it in fact violates departmental policy. I absolutely agree that violates our policy. Once mr. Floyd had stopped resisting and
Starting point is 00:46:08 Certainly once he was In distress and trying to verbalize that that that should have stopped There's there's an initial Reasonableness and trying to just get him under control over the in the first few seconds but but once there was no longer any resistance and clearly when Mr. Floyd was no longer responsive and even motionless to continue to apply that level of force to a person proned out, handcuffed behind their back, that in no way, shape, or form is anything that is by policy, is not part of our training, and it is certainly not part of our ethics or our values. Not part of our ethics or our values. Hmm. Not part of our ethics or our values. See what happens when you have a strong prosecution team. First of all, we need to give significant credit to Attorney General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, for what they have done thus far, how they have approached this particular case.
Starting point is 00:47:26 That, of course, was the emergency physician, Dr. Bradford Langenfield and Minneapolis Police Chief Madaria Arredondo testifying today. A long day of testimony taking place there. Let's talk about this with Bernarda Villalona, senior trial counsel for the Joy Jackson Law Firm. This had to be, again, Bernarda, one of those good days for the prosecution to have that ER doctor just obliterate the defense team's notion that it was drug use that killed George Floyd. Definitely. It was a definitely good day for the prosecution because you got to think that the two main issues that the defense is going after in this case is one, that George Floyd died as a result of a drug overdose. And that, too, that the use of force that Derek Chauvin actually used was one that is allowed by the department there in Minnesota. So today, both of those things came crackling down. And so, again, the defense tried to push the ER doc as well as the police chief.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Didn't go so well. It definitely didn't work out in his favor, especially the most telling thing and the most important thing that sticks out to me is that that doctor said that for each minute that George Floyd went without any medical attention, that being CPR, there is a 10 to 15 percent chance that you are losing life. So that was stood out more to me. But also, more importantly, is that George Floyd, unfortunately, was dead. He was in a cardiac arrest from the moment that he was taken from the scene up until he was in the hospital, and it was just the technicality that a doctor had to pronounce him dead. In terms of the police chief, this whole questioning of, oh, when was the last time you actually walked the streets? I mean, come on, really? It's the police chief.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Exactly. But here what you have is that the highest-ranked police official in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, you have the highest-ranked police official telling you, telling you that the practices that Derek Chauvin engaged in on that day where he put his knee on the neck of George Floyd was one that is not done by the police department. It is not one that is condoned by the police department. It was one that was excessive and hence deadly. Where do you think they go in terms of where we go next with this trial? Because, you know, the prosecution is methodically walking this thing down.
Starting point is 00:50:05 And so where do we go next? Well, it's going to continue along this same type of testimony, Roland, because you've got to think from the very beginning, from opening statements, the defense already told you that what they're disputing is the cause of death, as well as the training of Derek Chauvin. Remember, they tried to paint a picture in their opening that, wow, Derek Chauvin, that he was distracted by this mob of people that included some juveniles with a love shirt on, and that he took his attention away from George Floyd because he was scared, he was threatened.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So that is the line of questioning that they're going into. However, too bad for the defense that today you saw it, that you had the highest ranking police official, as well as a training officer, the lieutenant, who has known Derek Chauvin for 20 years since he started the force, telling you, number one, this type of restraint is not used. Number two, this is deadly force. The force that he used is deadly. It is the last resort, especially it's extreme and excessive when you're dealing with a man that is not being violent, a man that is not resisting, a man that is not armed,
Starting point is 00:51:16 a man that is in a prone position, a man that is handcuffed, a man that is not a threat to you. And you use the highest level of force, and that highest level of force is what got you here. Those nine minutes and 29 seconds of that deadly force that you put on the neck of George Floyd. And what does that equal out to? Murder.
Starting point is 00:51:36 All right then, Bernardo. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Let's get our panel here. Cleo Monago, your thoughts how this is going thus far as, of course, the defense is trying their best to put George Floyd on trial. The prosecution keeps coming back. No, no, no, no. It's you, Chauvin. It's you.
Starting point is 00:51:55 It doesn't look good for the defense. And the chief of police saying what he said seems to be a, you know, nails in the coffin. But what I was thinking as I watched this because of the previous conversation is that the defense's logic that this was drug abuse and all the other things they're saying to kind of throw people off reminds me of what McConnell and Brian Kemp and these Republicans do. They are wrong and they're doing the wrong thing and they do damage like Chauvin has. And they try to find these excuses to blame the people who they're victimizing for what they're doing. Like again, with Kemp blaming the Stacey and Biden for the team leaving when it's them who did it. It's a powerful metaphor.
Starting point is 00:52:39 And the death of George Floyd is a powerful metaphor too. And the knee on his neck. And that he was pleading for his life and they didn't care. And I think that people who are watching this show, black folks particularly, understand that the people who are resisting logic and who are fighting against our ability to vote and live our lives in the hands of police
Starting point is 00:53:02 are really a serious threat to us. And we need to stand up against it in every opportunity that we get. But it don't look good at all for the defense. And again, we'll see what occurs. I mean, do you know who the jury is yet? Well, first of all, we don't know the names of the jury. But again, we do know a link of the jury. Teresa, your assessment.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah, I mean, it's been a full week of trying to understand nine minutes and twenty nine seconds from the defense point of view. And I don't believe the public has even gotten to that point. I mean, honestly, the grief and the trauma of the witnesses that, you know, their testimony of recording it and feeling like, you know, they could have done more, they should have, you know, stepped in. I mean, that has been really traumatizing for anybody who is there knowing that, you know, someone literally died right before your eyes and there's nothing you can do. But like I said before, I think the prosecution is doing a phenomenal job and ensuring that we are staying on track and staying on focus because once we get off focus,
Starting point is 00:54:12 we allow the defense narrative to pretty much take over this case, which we can't, right? We can't let this be another Zimmerman case. We have to make sure that the George Floyd case is not only a learning experience and educational, but true justice actually reigns here in the U.S. Michael. We can all certainly watch these videos as we've done time and time again. And the new footage, which is just traumatic.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I mean, it's just awful. And to a lot of us, this isn't, you know, kind of easy, open, shut. The problem is in our country, in our system of justice, it just takes one juror to find some reasonable doubt, to say, you know what, you know what, he was in danger. He's a big guy. And all it takes is one juror. And that's what's so troubling about these cases where to many of us, it seems so easy and so open
Starting point is 00:55:12 and shut. The problem is in our system of justice, it just takes one juror back in that room who could have come in saying, I'm never going to convict this white guy, this white police officer. I don't care what the evidence is. I don't care what the evidence is. I don't care what the video is.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I don't care how the jurors try to browbeat me. I am not going to convict. Hopefully that's not the case. Hopefully we have jurors that are being objective, looking at the evidence. And keep in mind, too, over the last week or however many days it's been for the prosecution to put on its case, and you're right, I agree with you, General Ellison should get a lot of credit along with the prosecutors. But during this last week, it's just been all the prosecution case. Yeah, we've heard some stuff in the media. Yeah, we've heard some of the cross-examination
Starting point is 00:55:59 questions. But the defense puts on their case, too. And so we'll have to see what they come in with, though we don't, you know, we certainly we'll have to see what they come in with, though we certainly don't have to believe any of it or it certainly doesn't matter. But just keep in mind, they have to get their shot too. Well, that is the case. And so we'll certainly be paying more attention to exactly what happens with the next phase of the trial.
Starting point is 00:56:21 But again, we're now in week two and there is more to come. Got to go to a break. We'll be back on Roller Martin Unfiltered in a moment. America is starting to breathe again. A decent man as president, a plan to protect us. It feels almost normal, but it's not. Republicans still will not admit that President Biden was legally elected, which means they don't believe in democracy. They believe an election is only legitimate if they win. That's not democracy. Their plan? Pass voter suppression bills to block minorities from voting, take back Congress, impeach President Biden. We refuse. We refuse to accept the end of the American experiment.
Starting point is 00:57:13 We refuse to allow anti-democratic autocrats to steal our country. We choose to fight, and we will not lose. Join us. have been watching the murder trial of Derek Chauvin. Folks have been shocked and stunned and too difficult to actually watch. And others are talking about reliving the trauma of what happened to George Floyd and how it haunts us. Joining us right now is psychologist Dr. Jeffrey Gardier. Doc, always good to have you on the show. Great to have you, Rowan. Great to be here.
Starting point is 00:57:57 So how do we deal with that? Because that first week, I mean, there were a number of people who just simply said, I can't watch this. I can't take this. And not just watching the video, but just the testimony that was given. Yeah, certainly I've talked to many people who've said that they have not been able to watch it as well. And I say to them, look, get the information that you need. I know that we want to stay up on this. I know that we want to witness what's going on because this is history. Certainly the prosecution seems to be doing a pretty good job. There might be some sort of justice that comes out of this trial more than any of the others that we've seen. But when you've had enough, stop.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Turn it off. Instead, communicate with others. Talk to your loved ones. Let them know how you feel about this, because, Roland, we're being re-traumatized over and over and over, watching the video, but those witnesses who had to recount their testimony and them feeling so helpless as a result. Yeah, I think many of us feel that way because I know there's certainly much more we could have done, either through social protests, getting involved with community boards. I think we've kind of been sleepwalking through what's been going on, but certainly the pandemic has given us the empathy to wake up and realize that we can't let this continue to happen. I know you're talking about Chris Martin.
Starting point is 00:59:34 You're talking about Darnella Frazier. You're talking about the elderly gentleman, Charles McMillan, how he cried like a baby on that stand. He cried because he knew that in his heart he wanted to do more, though he possibly couldn't do more, that Chris Martin wished that perhaps he hadn't given that $20 bill or Darnella, you know, was traumatized by watching
Starting point is 00:59:58 what was going on in the streets against George Floyd. So certainly we're seeing from this trial more than any other of them, Roland, the guilt, the collective guilt that these individuals who were there were feeling, but also the guilt and the shame that America has been feeling in looking the other way. And now they can't look away any longer. We'll go to my panel for questions.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I'll first start with Teresa Lundy. Teresa, you have questions for Dr. Jeffrey Gardier. Hi, doctor. So, I mean, the public is watching this day after day. Is there something that you can, you know, give us for tips? You know, like, you know, I'm literally my lunch breaks are now talking about this case, you know, and what can we do so we don't, again, we're taking this into our homes. So what can we do to alleviate some of the stress? You know what? I think it is absolutely appropriate when we are looking at this trial for us to be able to communicate to other people, as I had talked about earlier, to be able to talk about what that pain feels like, to be able to
Starting point is 01:01:13 process not just alone, but with other people who have been through this and more than anything else, starting to get involved through community policing, through making sure that we're involved with social organizations, because perhaps in many ways with the assault on voters' rights that we're seeing in many of the states in Texas and starting to see in Georgia and in Arizona, this does feel like a psychological and physical assault against us. And the best thing that we can do is to not hold that pain in, but to let it out, to cry, to scream, to protest peacefully.
Starting point is 01:01:55 So yes, your question is a good one. We shouldn't be held hostage to this, but now this should be the motivation for us to get out. And finally, all of us do something about this so that we can try to mitigate these cases. We know they're going to happen over and over again, but the more we can do to empower other people, to empower our children, to give them that dreaded talk, that's what needs to be done to keep people alive.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Michael. That's what needs to be done to keep people alive. Michael. And, Doctor, how do you deal with, you know, the urge or the temptation that many people have when you're having discussions with somebody that sees those videotapes in a different way? How do you resist the temptation when they'll pop them in the nose when they're saying something stupid like, oh, well, why didn't he just get in the car? You know, and you're watching this poor man lose all his bodily functions. I mean, what do you say to somebody that just seems ignorant to basically what happened, what's been going on in America for four centuries. I think more than anything else is letting them know the pain that you feel from the ignorance from what it is that they are saying and to help them find their empathy, to help them find their humanity. And as a psychologist, I've run into this every once in a while to explore with them what was the trauma that they faced? What are the
Starting point is 01:03:26 untruths that they are in many ways digesting that keeps them in denial as to what's going on? And how has white privilege not only destroyed in many ways many of our rights, but how has it destroyed who they are that they don't have the potential to look at a human being and say, oh, my God, we cannot allow this to continue happening? Look, I think there are many people who have made that conversion, who have been able to change, who have been able to touch their own empathy and humanity through COVID, but more than anything, through this horrific death of George Floyd. Anyone who still sees this as something as if it was George Floyd's fault,
Starting point is 01:04:12 well, I think that is a deeper issue for that person on that other end of the spectrum. Thank you. Thank you, Doc. Cleo. Greetings, Dr. Gadir. It's my perspective that Black people are in a trauma trance. We are already traumatized. And the trauma long preceded this case and the murder of George Floyd.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I have not seen the George Floyd murder. I have not watched the trial. I have not watched any of it because I have seen seen the George Floyd murder. I have not watched the trial. I have not watched any of it because I have seen enough trauma. I'm doing part of what you've already said, which is get out there and do work, be in the community. My work is about trauma deflection for black people. But I wanted your assessment of this.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Do you believe that the murder of George Floyd and all the spectacle is a new trauma or is it a exasperation of preexisting trauma that we're already enduring? Many people have used this word re-traumatization. We use it a lot in psychology and social work to talk about children perhaps who've been sexually or physically abused or received some other abuse. And as they're growing up, they're still seeing and receiving that abuse every day. I truly believe that black and brown people and others who've been marginalized are experiencing that trauma every day. The racism, the institutional racism. And yes, it is a perpetual state of trauma, of emotional hurt.
Starting point is 01:05:54 And that's why I believe that racism does kill. We know that people begin to break down when they have that fight or flight mode dealing with racism. And that's why we must find a way to address this. This is not about an ideological difference. This is about life and death for those on the streets who have been killed, who are unarmed or some other situation. And for those of us who live day to day, living while black, that in itself can kill us. It has certainly been a difficult one. Doc, what do you propose after this trial? What do families do? What do they say to their children? Because the reality is we have seen numerous videos like this. We've
Starting point is 01:06:46 seen the Eric Garner video. We've seen the John Crawford III video. I mean, we can just go on and on and on. And so at some point, you know, do folks get numb to this or do people just simply say, you know what, I can't take it. I'm going to turn it off. How do we deal with it where we need to confront it but not run away from it? Certainly, we cannot let this pass as just another incident. This has to be that moment where we say, now, how do we turn the ideas into action? What is it that we need to do? How do we change these police departments? Because we've seen even members of that Minneapolis Police Department have said that
Starting point is 01:07:31 what happened between Derek Chauvin and George Floyd was absolutely wrong. That was bad policing. That was police abuse. So how do we use that? I'm sorry now? No, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. And so how do we use that to begin to change police departments across the nation? But just as importantly, how do we begin to educate our children to be able to not only avoid these situations, but own these situations by integrating in and becoming part of these police departments, part of community policing, to becoming politicians, to becoming leaders that are able to bring all people together to stop this kind of hate. All right. Dr. Jeffrey Gardia, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Thank you so very much. Thank you, Rowan. All right, folks. Man, some sad news we got. I got a text message today about a sister who appeared on our show a couple of times. The folks in the DMV, education community, they are mourning the death of Elizabeth Davis, the Washington Teachers Union president. She died in a two-car crash in Prince George's County Sunday night. Now, she was elected to one of the city's most powerful labor positions in 2013. The 70-year-old educator spent the last year leading the more than 4,000-person union through school closures amid the pandemic. Described as a straight-talking and tireless old-school organizer, Davis revamped
Starting point is 01:09:06 the struggling union when she took it over and implemented broad social justice mandates. She believed democracy is at the core of any union, and the Washington Teachers Union needed to have the backing of its members and the public. Davis was known to give every teacher her cell phone number and told them to reach out to her with any issues they encountered, no matter how small. She was born in North Carolina, and her mother moved to the district when Davis was in the third grade in search of better educational opportunities for her daughter. They live in the Capitol Hill area, and Davis attended her neighborhood schools. She was a graduate of Eastern High School in the University of District of Columbia. A teacher for four decades, Elizabeth Davis worked at half a dozen schools during her career.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Again, passed away yesterday in a tragic car accident at the age of 70. We'll go to a break. Back in a moment. I believe that it's movement time again. In America today, the economy is not working for working people. The poor and the needy are being abused. You are the victims of power, and this is the abuse of economic power. I'm 23 years old. I work three jobs. Work seven days a week, no days off. They're paying people pennies on the dollar compared to what they profit,
Starting point is 01:10:31 and it is time for this to end. Essential workers have been showing up to work, feeding us, caring for us, delivering goods to us throughout this entire pandemic, and they've been doing it on a measly $7.25 minimum wage. The highest check I ever got was nearly $291. I can't take it no more. You know, the fight for 15 is a lot more than about $15 an hour. This is about a fight for your dignity. We have got to recognize that working people deserve livable wages.
Starting point is 01:11:06 And it's long past time for this nation to go to 15 so that moms and dads don't have to choose between asthma inhalers and rent. I'm halfway homeless. The main reason that people end up in their cars is because income does not match housing costs. If I could just only work one job, I can have more time with them. It is time for the owners of Walmart, McDonald's, Dollar General, and other large corporations to get off welfare and pay their workers a living
Starting point is 01:11:35 wage. And if you really want to tackle racial equity, you have to raise the minimum wage. We're not just fighting for our families, we're fighting for yours too. We need this. I'm going to fight for it till we get it. I'm not going to give up. We just need all of us to stand up as one nation and just fight together. Families are relying on these salaries and they must be paid at a minimum $15 an hour. $15 a minimum. Anyone should be making this a stay out of poverty. I can't take it no more. I'm doing this for not only me, but for everybody. We need 15 right now. Hello, everyone.
Starting point is 01:12:19 It's Kiara Sheard. Hey, I'm Taj. I'm Coco. And I'm Lele. And we're SWB. What's up, y'all? It's Ryan Destiny, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Oh, y'all, The Whiteness of Wealth is a recently released book that examines how the current
Starting point is 01:12:40 tax code unfairly taxes Black people and prevents us from achieving the same kind of wealth our white counterparts have access to. Joining me now is Dorothy Brown. She's the author of The Whiteness of Wealth. Dorothy, glad to have you here. All right, Dorothy, so let's just be honest. Most people, they hate taxes. They don't want to spend the time doing taxes. They don't want to sit here and bother. They are like, look, I got other stuff to do. And so so lay out your thesis here in terms of your notion of how the tax code is hooking white folks up and screwing black people. Yes. So hopefully by the time they finish listening to this interview, people will realize taxes really do matter. So my research, which is based on 25 years of scholarship, shows that when white Americans and black Americans engage in the exact same thing, whether it's homeownership or marriage or jobs, tax policy advantages how white Americans do the behavior and disadvantage how black
Starting point is 01:13:48 Americans do the behavior. So your next question is, what are you talking about, right? So let's take home ownership. First of all, tax subsidies for home ownership are only going to benefit people who own homes, and the majority of black Americans don't own homes. But that's not the worst piece of the puzzle. The worst piece of the puzzle is when black Americans own homes, tax law doesn't help them the way it helps white Americans. Why? Because black homeowners live in different neighborhoods from white homeowners. And the most homes that appreciate the most are in white neighborhoods where most
Starting point is 01:14:27 black Americans don't live and white Americans don't want to live next to too many black Americans. When homes appreciate and sell for a gain, tax law says if you're married, the first half a million dollars of gain, you get tax-free. So you say, well, Dorothy, what's the problem? When black people sell home at a gain, they get a half a million tax-free. When white people sell homes at a gain, right? Well, no, because the people with the most gains are those living in neighborhoods that are almost all white. That's not where most black homeowners live. And more importantly, black homeowners are more likely to sell their home at a loss. And tax law doesn't allow losses on the sale of homes. So, again, so let's sort of walk through this. And so when you talk about the tax tax code and you talk about, for instance, right now, there are blue state Democrats who are trying to get the provision of the property taxes and the mortgage taxes put back in to put back on the books that was removed by the Republicans because, frankly, they want to penalize those particular blue states.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Well, if you're black and you're renting, if you're renting a home, that doesn't benefit you. That's right. That's absolutely right. That's absolutely right. So any tax subsidy for homeownership is going to benefit white Americans more than black Americans because the majority of white Americans are homeowners, but the majority of blacks are renters. And so when we look at the black home ownership rate, 40, 41, maybe 42% right now, white Americans, it's above 60%. And so what's happening is our money is being handed to somebody else and we're getting no discernible we're getting no no return on that but the person who owns the property they're the ones who are benefiting from that that's right that's absolutely right that's absolutely right and i'm sorry no go ahead go ahead and when you look at home ownership in america white middle class has built off the backs of homeownership.
Starting point is 01:16:46 But it's not the same for black homeowners because we do not get the same return on our investment when we become homeowners because we live in neighborhoods that where the homes don't appreciate as much. How else is the is the tax code penalizing black folks helping out white folks? So let's talk about marriage. When white people get married they are more likely to get a tax cut. Why? Because they have one stay-at-home spouse and one spouse who works in the paid labor market. When that couple gets married, they get a tax cut. Black married couples, on the other hand, like my parents, and I talk about them
Starting point is 01:17:32 in the book, my mother was a nurse, my father was a plumber, their incomes were almost equal. They never got a tax cut because of how the tax laws work. for decades they paid higher taxes. So how the tax laws work is if you have a single wage earner household where one person works outside and one person works inside, tax cut. If you have two equal earners that most married black couples fall in that category, they don't get a tax cut. So here you have white and black Americans doing the same thing, getting married. But tax law advantages how white Americans do marriage. One single wage earner household and disadvantage how black Americans do marriage, which is two equal earners.
Starting point is 01:18:29 One of the things also that I think when you look at the greatest beneficiary, real estate, frankly, how Trump, the game is played, how you can just write stuff up, all sorts of different things like that, that also, again, when we're not owning land and we're not owning properties, owning building, we're not taking advantage. Look, I tell people all the time, and I remember when I would hire people to do my taxes, and people would be like, man, I can't believe you're spending that money. I said, well, first of all, if I hire somebody to do my taxes, that's also a tax write-off.
Starting point is 01:19:02 It used to be, yes. And so the person was kind of like, okay, what do you mean? I said, yo, white folks created the tax code. So I'm not going to sit up, feel out of easy form and just go, oh, can I quickly get
Starting point is 01:19:17 some kind of check back? No, I'm going to figure out the same thing they've been doing to get rich. Right. Right. And that's what they're doing. Right. And that's right. And so how do we get it? Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to say in the real problem. I mean, the thing that struck me the most is, you know, we're we're told if you buy a house, if you get married, if you do all these things, then you'll be able to
Starting point is 01:19:45 build wealth. And here we have tax law saying, but if you do it while black, no tax break for you. Questions for our panel. Michael, I'm going to start with you. You know, first, good work, cousin, on your book. My last name is Brown, by the way. Thank you. Thank you. See, he's trying to claim the Omega. Man, move on. If you have, when we talk about the wealth and the
Starting point is 01:20:17 tax code, and how does gentrification play into that? So, when you talk about, obviously, the neighborhoods, especially neighborhoods that are changing, and when a family, when a grandmother passes away, and children have the option of taking it over, and they're like, I don't want to pay these high urban taxes, I'm going to sell it. Should they hold on to that property and maybe rent it out to help pay some of those expenses? Or should they take the $500,000 or the million or whatever it is and walk away? Well, usually if a neighborhood
Starting point is 01:20:51 is gentrifying, they're not going to have the option of half a million, right? It's not appreciated that much. You need the neighborhood to gentrify and then you can sell it for a lot of money. The problem is you see elderly homeowners in that situation, and they've been in their home for decades. And then the neighborhood gentrifies, and then property taxes shoot up, and they're unable to pay their property taxes, so they wind up losing the home and the possibility of equity. So if there are options, then you want to stay in the home or rent it out so that you're the owner. And when gentrification occurs, property values are going to increase and you're going to wind up with potential wealth from selling the home tax free. Got it. Cleo Winago.
Starting point is 01:21:39 I'm shaking my head because I know what she's saying is true. And it almost kind of answers some of my question. My question for her was, what's an example of the recipe out of this situation? The situation of the Black barriers to the wealth that white people get to access? You just gave an example. Yeah, and here's the problem. Black people are between a rock and a hard place.
Starting point is 01:22:04 So let's stick with home ownership. If you want a good financial investment, then you want to be the only black person in black child has been targeted for doing nothing. So you have to deal with what I call racism triage. Right. You have to deal with this nonsense and figure out, well, I got to fight that battle, but I can't fight that battle. So it's a good financial investment, but you're dealing with a lot of stress. Alternatively, you buy in an all black neighborhood or racially diverse neighborhood where your children will see other people who look like them, where your neighbors won't call the cops, but you won't get the financial benefit you would in the all-white neighborhood. So I would advise people, live where you want to live, but be conscious and intentional. So don't be house poor if you're buying in an all black neighborhood or racially diverse neighborhood. Stay away from home equity loans because your house is not going to appreciate the way your white colleagues house who lives on a different part of town does.
Starting point is 01:23:16 All right, then. Well, look, that is certainly some some critically important advice. I just really, you know, again, we go back to this whole, we hear all this talk, financial literacy, financial literacy. And this to me is where when you don't know, you don't know. And I just think in so many ways, we've got to have constant, constant education, constant classes, churches, organizations. I know we love our organizations and our meetings, but the bottom line is here. If you're getting people to understand the tax code, understand how wealth is created, understand how folks write things off, gifts they make to organizations, things along those lines.
Starting point is 01:24:10 All that's important. And I think for too many of us, and I get it, for a lot of us, frankly, we have this idea that, you know what, that's for the folk who are making six figures and higher. But there are other families who are not making that, but they are armed with the information. And when you're armed with the information, that is what changes the game. That's absolutely right. Absolutely right. And so that's just what I'm encouraging our folks to do, to get more of the information, to understand why we must really have a totally different outlook when it comes to our financial planning. And last point, if you can speak to, not allow our folks to use the excuse, well, my mama and daddy never told me. Okay, now you can change that. Yes, you can read my book, right? And recognize the system was not
Starting point is 01:25:14 designed for black wealth. When people wind up, when black Americans wind up wrestling wealth out of this system, it is, as I talk about in the book, it's a bit of luck and it's a bit of strategy. So the more you know, the more you can do. But the one thing I want your listeners to think about is this system was not designed for us to build wealth. So we want to build wealth. We have to be smarter. Yeah, no, we were the reason they built wealth. Right. Yeah. No, it wasn't for us at all. So but it is a matter of getting us to understand that, again, the information, that's the piece. It's the constant information. All right. Again, put the book up, please, y'all. Just one more time, folks, to understand the whiteness of wealth, how the tax system impoverishes
Starting point is 01:26:01 black Americans and how we can fix it dorothy a brown i appreciate it thanks a lot thank you all right folks gotta go to a break we'll be back on roland martin in just a moment who needs a little love today? Who needs some love sent their way? Who needs love? Who needs love? Who needs a little love today?
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Starting point is 01:27:02 This is Tobias Trevelyan. And if you ready, you are listening to and you are watching Roland Martin, Unfiltered. With COVID restrictions loosening up across the country, many people are going back to their lives pre-pandemic, especially getting back into the gym. Is that a good idea? Joining us now from Atlanta's Effect Fitness is owner Dooley.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Dooley, how you doing? How you doing, man? All good. So during the pandemic, it was crazy. If you went to a sporting goods store, you literally could not find any equipment whatsoever. I mean, I'm talking about they were they were selling they were selling dumbbells on eBay for $1,000. They literally couldn't find more equipment. Do you believe that as we are people getting the vaccine,
Starting point is 01:28:17 that folks are going to drastically change what they used to do, flock to gyms, other places, out of fear of contracting COVID or getting sick? I feel like this has been the reprogramming of people's minds has been the toughest part about getting people back in the gym. Like you just said, it is a still affair, still a phobia. I got people that are just choking on water, coughing, and people looking around thinking it might be COVID. So it's really a reprogramming of people's minds. The body is the easiest part to kind of get back where we tried to get it to. It's the mind part that took the biggest toll during the pandemic.
Starting point is 01:28:49 And what we're working on, really, is just reprogramming people's minds to just get back in the gym, understand that, yes, other things going on, but the things that you actually can control is your health and your wellness. So I feel like the biggest part that's for the pandemic is just being pre-programmed in people's minds. And when you talk about pre-programming their minds, have you seen, first of all, what's been blowing up of people doing these virtual workouts? Absolutely. And so how have you as a business owner,
Starting point is 01:29:16 how have you had to shift your business? Same way. Like I said, we were really all about in-house. So during the pandemic, we even launched an app. Our business is almost quadrupled during the pandemic because literally it forced us to, like I said, reprogram the way we thought about business in the fitness industry. And when we downloaded, we started our own app and we got pretty much the same amount of people doing this stuff virtually as we do in-house now. So it's been a beautiful thing for us as well.
Starting point is 01:29:45 So this video we're playing right now, I mean, again, that's a packed joint. It's gonna be a little hard to get folk to go back to that, bro. We understand that. And that's why, like I said, as a business owner, like, we're taking all the proper steps. That's why we pride ourselves
Starting point is 01:30:03 on what we're actually doing throughout the day. So as far as the fog and the sanitizing after each and every class, we don't we like you said, the equipment we don't we no longer share equipment. You have to bring your own equipment to the gym. We make it to where literally if you don't feel comfortable being here with us, please download the app. Let's get it in virtually. But we are taking every step, all the precautions to make sure that everyone that comes here feels safe. Even setting up COVID testing outside of our gym on your way in. So we feel good about all the steps we're taking about having that many people back in here.
Starting point is 01:30:36 How do you feel about this New Jersey gym owner who's like, the hell with these restrictions, I'm going to open, he's getting fined. Now he's offering free memberships to people who won't, the hell with these restrictions. I'm going to open. He's getting fined. Now he's offering free memberships to people who won't take the vaccine. Wow. I try my best to mind my own business, but
Starting point is 01:30:56 in that case, I say I'm about the people. So if I didn't feel I could keep people safe, I wouldn't invite people to me. I don't know if I would do that based on restriction. Like I said, here in Atlanta, things are a little bit different, as you know. Our governor is pretty proactive as well in opening up things. But more so than him or the government, I just feel good about what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Like I said, I try not to put our fate in anybody else's hands. I want to make sure we sanitize and I want to make sure we got proper cleaning, like top-rated cleaning companies. I want to make sure that everybody brings their own equipment and keeping themselves safe when they come back up in here. Questions. Cleo, you're first.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I was wondering how does the app work? Does the app have like Zoom or some kind of visual on it where you actually... Absolutely. With the app work? Does the app have like Zoom or some kind of visual on it where you actually With the app it's pretty much like anything with an Xfinity cable box. You can do it live or you can play it back on demand. So
Starting point is 01:31:53 the best thing about the app is unlimited class. Once you got the app, you can do classes all day long. We have three live classes per day. So you got one at 5.30 a.m., 12, and then 5.30 p.m. And literally once it's live it's live but when it's over we upload the best class of the day and you can do that all day long and we keep changing out the videos every day it's a different type of class it's a different type of workout so what
Starting point is 01:32:14 we're doing in-house you guys are also doing virtually so you have on demand as well cool Cool. Absolutely. Michael. So do you think the business of gyms will change after the pandemic is over, whenever that is, later this year or next year? Do you think the Planet Fitnesses and the LA Fitnesses and all those kind of gyms will survive or will they continue to make it? I think it's going to be hard for any gym to survive that's not taking care of the people. Like I said, now people are being exposed. You can't just put a bunch of equipment in a building
Starting point is 01:32:54 and tell people to come to me. So now you've got to make sure that these things are clean. You've got to make sure that when you walk into these places, you've got some sanitary stations, and you've got to make sure that you've got to take care of the people. You can't get by with just having some equipment and telling people to make sure that like, you got to take care of the people. Now there's no, you can't get by. We're just having some equipment and telling people to come work out with me. So it has already changed. So if you're a gym owner and you're handling business and you make sure you're
Starting point is 01:33:12 taking care of your people, you'll keep having people. Again. So, so, so last question for you as what advice would you give anybody who's watching in terms of if they're deciding to go back, what should they be looking out for to caution themselves? What procedures should they be saying, you know what, this gym needs to have this and this and this in place before I get back involved? It takes two.
Starting point is 01:33:41 So we're going to do this. I think people, before you step back into the gym, make sure your mind is right. Make sure you're fully committed and ready to come back before you ever come back. Try as many online and virtual options as you can before you ever step foot back. Because most gyms and people, it's just a certain way to work out.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And I just want to make sure people get their mind right before they ever step foot back in the gym. Because nobody's putting pressure on you. Like I say, that's why you've got all these different virtual options. But when you're ready to come back, like I said, make sure your gym is make sure you see you got to wear this mask to even get into the gym. Make sure the front desk staff is they're checking temperatures. Make sure that people are always cleaning up and wiping down every piece of equipment once it's used. So if you don't see no sanitation stations, you don't see no temperature readings when you're walking in the buildings, you don't see no masks like that,
Starting point is 01:34:29 that you might want to be cautious about entering that place. All right then. Dooley, we certainly appreciate the band. Thank you so very much. I appreciate y'all, man. All right then. Cleo, Michael, we certainly appreciate you joining us as well. Teresa, thank you so very much for being with us as well.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Super Black, good to see you. very much for being with us as well. I was super black. Good to see you. We certainly have y'all back soon. We sure appreciate it. Thanks a lot. We're going to close the show out, folks, with this. And that is every Monday, Moral Mondays, the Poor People's Campaign has been engaged in their moral revival, of course, driving this whole issue of the Poor People's Campaign. I just want to show some of you today's Moral Monday. I don't want to keep on walking, keep on talking, walking up the freeway. President and Senior Lecturer of Repairs of the Breach and Co-Chair of the Poor People's Campaign a National Call for Mall Revival. We are gathering from all around the nation and in
Starting point is 01:35:45 the nation's capital today to raise an important issue. I had planned to be there this morning. I was called to do the eulogy for a young man who was shot to death by the police in Virginia Beach under questionable circumstances. And as we were trying to make it there, the traffic became so intense that it kept us from being there on time. But today we come because we as clergy, pastors, imams, rabbis, people from the Hindu community
Starting point is 01:36:19 and the Muslim community are challenging the immorality of the filibuster. We can no longer have an impoverished democracy because a minority group of senators want to shut down open debate and shut down bringing issues to the floor to address the critical issues that face us as a people in this nation. We have 140 million plus people now are in poverty and low wealth in this nation. We have 62 million people that make less than $17 an hour in this nation. We have over 80 million people who make, uh, who either are uninsured
Starting point is 01:37:01 or underinsured,insured in this nation. We have serious issues to address in terms of coming out of this pandemic, rebuilding from the bottom up and building forward greater in this nation. And we cannot have a system that actually is rooted in an ugly history. Now, many times when people talk about the filibuster, they talk about how it has been used to block civil rights legislation, and they frame it as a form of systemic racism. And that's true, but it is more than that.
Starting point is 01:37:35 And it was tie time that we let the public know it's more than that. Now, yes, in the 1800s, the filibuster was used to stop every piece of anti-slavery legislation, every piece of anti-slavery legislation. In 1937, there was a vicious, vicious lynching in Duck Hill, Mississippi, where people's bodies were literally mutilated and burned. The House of Representatives to honor, to deal with this issue and to deal with the horror of it, they passed an anti-lynching bill in 1837, but the senators and the white southern members launched a tenacious filibuster to prevent the anti-lynching bill from reaching the floor for a vote. When it came to the New Deal,
Starting point is 01:38:27 a lot of the legislation that President Franklin Delano Roosevelt tried to put forward, some historians say that he had to back away from that anti-lynching deal because of the filibuster in order to allow some other pieces of legislation to go forth. What a horrendous tradeoff that was forced by those who would engage in filibustering. We know in 1918, however, it wasn't just black people. In 1918, Southern conservatives in the Senate blocked women's suffrage for a long time by Senate filibuster. They didn't want the 19th Amendment. So the filibuster has been the antithesis to women in this country moving forward. We know that five times between
Starting point is 01:39:13 1942 and 1949, the House passed bills that sought to ban poll taxes five times, and five times and five times senators filibustered and allowed poll tax to stay on the record. We know that Strom Thurmond and Dick Russell used the filibuster to try to weaken the 1957 Civil Rights Act. And we also know, however, that when we look past the post-war decades, the Senate used the filibuster and other procedural tricks, not just the filibuster, to block labor policies from reaching goal, and that was the repeal of the Taft-Hardley Right to Work Act because a bipartisan conservative filibuster in the U.S. Senate was employed. In 1974, a five-year effort to pass a bill to create an independent consumer protection agency fell victim to the filibuster. So yes, it's been used to undermine things that would benefit African Americans, but also with things that would benefit all
Starting point is 01:40:33 Americans. The filibuster has been used. We know in 1972, the filibuster was used to block legislation to give the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission the power to move against job discrimination. For months, they blocked it. We know in 2014, a Republican filibuster successfully barred the Protect Women's Health from Corporate Interference Act, literally blocked it, which was intended to remedy the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling that employers could refuse to include contraceptives for women in their insurance plan. The filibuster has been used to block laws that would stem voter suppression. It's been used in some ways, a form of it has been used to block any real votes
Starting point is 01:41:22 on things like living wages. And what it does is the filibuster is dangerous to our democracy. It undermines the democracy because the ultimate goal of the filibuster, it is a centerpiece of an arcane obstructionist type rules in the United States that bars the body from the deliberative role that was envisioned by the founders. It has been used to stall presidential appointments, federal judicial appointments, laws addressing unemployment benefits in national economic emergency times. It's been used to block environmental protection measures, global climate measures. It's been used to even block laws that would require disclosure of political contributions in a country where we have such a flood of dark money. The current filibuster rule
Starting point is 01:42:18 discourages public debate. And the way they do it now is worse than even in the past, because in the past, at least you had to go to the floor and keep the filibuster up. Today, if you simply say you don't have the 60 votes, there's not even a filibuster debate. And so people never really see. What the filibuster does is it blocks people from seeing. It blocks those senators' constituents from seeing where they really are. And at the end of the day, the filibuster, the filibuster is immoral. It does not provide the flourish and inequality to flourish is not in line with our deepest moral values constitutionally, which call us to establish justice and not in line with our deepest moral values religiously that calls us to care for the least of these and to lift from the bottom and to lift up those. There's a great scripture in the Bible, Isaiah 10, that says, woe unto those who legislate evil and rob the poor of their rights. The filibuster, more often than not, has been used to rob the poor, rob African-Americans, rob women, rob workers of their rights, and it is not right. And we as a national body of clergy and pastors and
Starting point is 01:43:48 and religious persons from all different faiths representing tens and tens of thousands of people today in Washington, D.C. and around the country call for the ending of the filibuster. It is time for the Senate to have honest, open, full debate on the issues of our day. We don't need any more to have living wages blocked and health care to be blocked and infrastructure that lifts from the bottom up to be blocked and money for public education to be blocked and those things that would make this democracy better. This is not about left or right. It's not about conservative versus liberal. It is about right versus wrong. And so today we commit to create holy trouble.
Starting point is 01:44:34 We're going to trouble the walls and trouble the Senate. We're going to trouble the senators. We're going to call them. We're going to organize voters. We're going to push people out because it is time to stop the filibuster. Lastly, the filibuster by name, one language says it really means to talk to death. And another language, the filibuster means to rob.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Well, it's time to stop talking to death in ways that block us from having the real discussions we need to be having about justice in this society. And we cannot allow the robbery to go on anymore. No longer can a minority of senators block those things that would lift more than 140 million people out of poverty and low wealth. That is not the American way. It is not the intentions of this democracy and we as people of faith and religious leaders are calling it out. It is immoral, it is sinful
Starting point is 01:45:30 and it is wrong and it must stop. I turn the program now back over to those that are in D.C. and then you'll hear from other great... That was Reverend Dr. William J. Barber. We certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Folks, if you want to support Roland Martin Unfiltered, please do so by joining our Bring the Funk fan club.
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Starting point is 01:50:14 That's how we work. So we got books over here. We got cards over here. We got folks who sit in packages over here. And that way I can grab it when we're live. So, yes, it is. And so we got a brush, Conan Brothers hair. That's how we brush the brothers hair. That's how we do it. Alright, so I got this. Brother Roland, it says
Starting point is 01:50:31 on the front, you don't do it for the glory but it doesn't mean you don't deserve it. Thanks for so much all that you do. Brother Roland, much love and respect. Shalotta Sankofa. Shalotta, I appreciate that. And then, hold on here, y'all. I'm going to give this here. Let's see. Jalene Hives. Rolling out mail to check for 2021 fan club. It's not showing up in my account and it hasn't come back to me.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Have you received the check? I drove in 2020. Yes, we did. Jalene, I appreciate that. Thank you so very much. Let's see. I'm going gonna try to read a couple of more before we get out of here. Before our time is up. Donation. Napoleon Keys. Thank you for giving civic lessons to young people who don't read history books. Napoleon, that's what we do, what we do. I appreciate that, Napoleon. Thank you so very much. Good work and stay on point. Unsigned. Thank you. I appreciate that. Another letter. Dear Roland, sorry I took so long to uh good work and stay on point unsigned thank you i appreciate that uh another
Starting point is 01:51:26 letter dear roland sorry i took so long to support your work i've been a i've been a uh oh i've been a freeloader loving the information you provide but not contributing hopefully i can send you a payment every month of at least ten dollars i know it's not much but it's the best i can do right now uh love your show georgia i can't make out your last name but georgia i appreciate it look every dollar counts and so there are people who give us uh a hundred dollars fifty dollars twenty dollars ten dollars five dollars one dollar we appreciate every single uh person uh single person who supports this show and who contributes. And so trust me, every dollar matters. Hey, Roland Martin, I love the way you bring the funk.
Starting point is 01:52:12 I am joining your fan club. Here's my 50 bucks. Darlene Hancock. Darlene, I appreciate that, Darlene. Thank you so very much. I'm going to read two more, two more. Okay. Thank you so very much. I'm going to read two more, two more. OK, Herbie Holland Jr. I just love what you do. I listened to the speech you gave over Zoom on Friday, February 26th at the college, and it was really on point.
Starting point is 01:52:35 I watch your show every day. I'm a monthly contributor to your Bring the Funk fan club. Fifty bucks every month. I just wanted to say listening to you and the guests you have on your show talk about black problems with black people is refreshing, and you're the only black media outlet I listen to. Because of you, I have been enlightened on books such as Martin Luther King's Where Do We Go From Here, as well as the sneakers you put on display during your Zoom speech at the college. So I immediately went and ordered a pair. That was the black-owned company and the gas footwear. I also like the fact that you're an alpha, so is my brother Troy. Wish I I was, but I'm not. I do have a master's degree. Keep up the great work and inspiring all of us to be better blacks and to support black media and business. Herbie L.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Holland Jr. And then he said, P.S. Here's another $50 to your platform. So Herbie, I appreciate that, y'all. And I got one more, y'all. Mr. Roller Martin, we're always watching your show. So here's a money order for $100. Thank you for the many things you and your panel have on your show. So we, Herbert Richardson and Sandra Scott, support the work you are doing. So we are keeping you in our prayers. God has blessed you and the vision you have been given.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Hope to send you more $100. Again, Herbert Richardson and Sandra Scott. Y'all, I certainly appreciate that. Everything that y'all, all the notes. And so I can't read all of them, but I just zoomed through about 15 of them. And so we had some extra time and I appreciate that. Thank you for the cards that y to let you know I'll be able to show you in about 30 days new space that we're going to be moving into. We visited today. I signed the lease. Got to go through two more phases but it's going to be phenomenal space. Your dollars is making that possible folks. It's a much larger space. Right now, we really only have this one set look. Where we're going, we're going to have four different set looks. Trust me, y'all, it's going
Starting point is 01:54:32 to be off the chain. I can't wait to show y'all. I got the video sitting over here right now, but trust me, y'all are going to like it. So that's it for us, folks. Again, Cash App, dollar sign RM Unfiltered. PayPal.me forward slash rmartinunfiltered. Venmo.com forward slash rmunfiltered. Zelle, Roland at RolandisMartin.com. Roland at RolandMartinUnfiltered.com. Money Order, New Vision Media, 1625 K Street, Northwest, Suite 400, Washington, D.C., 2006. That's it for me.
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