#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Howard President On 502 Freshmen Disenrollment. CBC Scholarships Under Attack. Afroman Sues Deputy.

Episode Date: July 30, 2026

7.29.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Howard President On 502 Freshmen Disenrollment. CBC Scholarships Under Attack. Afroman Sues Deputy. Roland spoke with Howard University's Interim President, Dr. Wayn...e A. I. Frederick, about the disenrollment of 502 incoming freshmen. He will explain why this happened and what measures are being implemented to prevent it from occurring again. Approximately 25 million people rely on a Medicare subsidy program initiated during the Biden Administration.  However, the Trump Administration has decided to end it, which will result in increased premiums in 2027. An anti-affirmative action group has filed a lawsuit against the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, claiming that college scholarships for Black students from underfunded schools in majority-Black districts are discriminatory based on race. We will talk with the attorney representing the CBCF. Congressman David Scott's daughter, Marcye Scott, was forced into a runoff for his seat in Georgia's 13th Congressional District. We are less than 100 days away from the midterm elections, and MAGA continues its attacks on voting rights. We will discuss efforts to ensure a safe and fair election with the Senior National Coordinator at the Election Protection Coalition. And Ohio rapper Afroman is turning the tables on the deputies who sued him by filing a lawsuit against one of them for allegedly stealing $400, seeking $1.5 million in damages. Black Star Network Partner: Chapter Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:19 502 students were de-enrolled is led to lots of drama I talked with how University President Wayne Frederick about this, how many students have been re-enrolled, and what are they going to do to make sure this doesn't happen again? Here's our conversation. President Frederick, always glad to talk with you. Let's get right into it. So reports said that some 502 students were impacted by the decision to unenroll them. Is that the total number of students that were impacted?
Starting point is 00:05:54 That's the total number that we sent the enrollment message to that they had not met the criteria on the checklist in terms of doing all the things that we expected them to do so that we could be prepared to receive them in the fall. That's correct. Of that 502, how many have y'all worked with to get their finances straight and how many have been enrolled? We've worked with all 500 and 2. It's not only about finances, but primarily about finances, and over 200 have been enrolled. We're closing off the process, and so we'll have a final number soon. But approximately over 200 have been enrolled, and a certain percentage never responded to us, etc., which was part of the concern, these students who are probably making a different decision.
Starting point is 00:06:51 going to go somewhere else etc. Nevertheless, we needed to be able to prepare for the school year and make sure that we had everything in place on the day that they showed up. This is a large number impacted. Had you ever encountered this before, and was there anything unique that happened this year compared to previous years? Unfortunately, Roland, this probably happens every single year. And to some extent, this leaves us a bit unprepared because we really get a sense of the census the first week of class. We have people showing up, scrambling for housing, trying to get them registered, doing several different things, which also impacts our customer service negatively.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And we've had people complain about not having professors in the classroom on the first day of class, etc. So we've done everything possible to make sure it was different. What was different this year? We sent out our financial aid packages in March, the earliest we've ever done that. We opened the housing portal so that they could apply for housing in April, the earliest we've ever done that. So what I would say happened differently this year is that we took every step that we could possibly take to ensure that we will prepare as early as possible
Starting point is 00:08:15 and that we gave students and their families an opportunity to be prepared as well so that we could plan appropriately and be ready on August 17, the first day of class. We've heard from a number of students and parents who said they called, they got different words from different people saying, no, you're fine, you're fine, you're fine, you're fine, you're fine. And so how do you deal with that where it was this much confusion? Was it all on the students part in their parents? or is it also some of this on Howard University and, you know, because I've heard, well, you got financial aid office, you've got the bursor, you got academic, you got like different places they were all calling.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah, so listen, higher education today is a complicated process. And so all of those offices did communicate with the students. I don't think the information was different. I think they were communicating with them about different things. So, financial aid is communicating with you about documents that you may have to send for a variety of different things that you may need to do. The Bursa's office might be talking to you about making payments and how you go about doing those things. So everybody that's interacting with the students is doing something different. Regardless of that, the enrollment management office is sending information about the overall enrollment process. And again, I have to emphasize, Roland, that over 2,200 students and their families got it right, did everything within the deadline time, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:09:57 and were successfully enrolled when we made this decision. They were clear about what we were doing, what needed to be done, which means that the messaging could not have been that confusing if those 2,200 did it. Now, could we do things better? Absolutely. For a private institution,
Starting point is 00:10:16 we have a high Pell Grant eligible, student body. Some 43% of the students are Pell Grant eligible. That means that they're coming from socioeconomic circumstances in which they need assistance with different things, et cetera. And so we have to make sure that we are providing that kind of support in a better way on a go-forward basis. We have students who are coming from homeless shelters. Unfortunately, this is a growing part of what we're seeing. And so, as you can imagine, if you're a student in a shelter, you get a bill for $1,000, you're not interacting with parents who can assist you. I think all of that can be confusing. So learning the different circumstances of our students earlier is one of the
Starting point is 00:11:06 things that we're going to charge the team with, and as we build out our enrollment strategy, those are some of the elements that we would add so that we do provide more services to those students to ensure that everybody is clear about what their responsibilities are and the deadline dates, etc. So you are looking at where shortfalls were because let's just be honest. You've had you're on this show. You've had to go on CNN. You've had people dragging university through the mud on every social media platform.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And the thing, I mean, that's not what anybody wants. And no other HBCU is going through this. We look at social. And so you've made it clear to your team, hey, if there are some places that we need to show up, let's do that so we don't have a repeat of this in the future. Absolutely. Our process improvement is going to look at all of those things. One of the confusing points was what was the 50% due amount. I think what was written was clear, but we could have put an example, for instance, in the communication to make it crystal clear.
Starting point is 00:12:15 If the bill is 60,000 and you have aid for 40,000, some people felt they met the 50%. The 50% was related to the 20,000 outstanding beyond the aid. And so we could have put an example that would have made that clear to people, that they would have ordered us 10,000 in that example I'm using it, for instance. So we could always communicate better. Let me just be absolutely clear, and I have publicly apologized. Now, you did bring up one issue, though, about being on, several media places and social media.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And the reality is, Howard University is always going to attract that kind of attention for one reason or the other. Nobody focuses on the amount of accommodation that we're making for the group of students in general that come to us. Nobody is knocking down my door to discuss the fact that we've graduated more black physicians than anyone else. People love the sensational stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:12 But regardless of that, we continue to, I think, provide an excellent education, and we continue to really extend ourselves to those who otherwise wouldn't have an opportunity anywhere else. And so I think I'm proud of what we do. We can do some things better, and we will do things better. But for things that occur at any other university, it does get to a different level of attention than it would here,
Starting point is 00:13:40 and especially if it's sensational or negative. But I got to tell you, I think that lots of other questions you could ask. We got one minute left. And there were people who were making comments saying, you've gotten money from McKinsey Scott. Hey, I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast, Encore. Check out our brand new episodes featuring music from the show that everyone is reheating as we speak.
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Starting point is 00:16:11 Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. You've got this endowment. And one of the things I had Dr. Aaron Lynch on who sort of laid out, like, folks, understand how much money we're talking about. If you've got 500 students, let's just say, you know, if you're running numbers and those 500 students, you know, owed, just to say an average of $30,000 that they had to pay, you know, what people don't realize is, you know, that's $15 million. So do you think it is unfair for people to expect Howard to float folks
Starting point is 00:16:47 with that amount knowing full well that you are dealing with a massive amount of expenses that comes with an individual who is trying to enroll? Yeah, it's certainly unfair. I would say it's incredibly naive. Listen, the math speaks for it. as you just pointed out, but I'll take it one step further. Those people are focused on those 500 students. I'm focused on the 12 to 13,000 students across this campus.
Starting point is 00:17:17 The federal government has made a decision that to cap their amount of loans that students in the professional schools can take out. So when I look at my med school, my law school, my dental school, the opportunity that those students are going to have to fund their education is slipping away. And so we are already And just President President, for the people who don't know, that was in Trump's
Starting point is 00:17:42 Big Beautiful Bill where that was kept. And in many ways, this is reminiscent of when the parent plus loan was kept under President Obama, and that caused
Starting point is 00:17:52 a financial tsunami across HBCUs. That's exactly right. And some of the changes they've made even to the plus loan made us as an institution not even package our students with plus loan.
Starting point is 00:18:05 The denial rate for plus loans last year and how it was very high. So when we put financial aid packages together this year, we didn't even include plus loans. So the point is when we look at all of our resources and we look at the buildings that we're trying that we need to build, this is a fairly old campus. There's a lot of stuff that we are spending money on that to say to us that we should just put up 15 million plus for 500 students because of monies that we've raised and bought in, I think is naive. And then the last thing is the way endowments work, they grow, right? I'm proud to say that not only is our endowment, the only one over a billion among the agencies. It's not $1.5 billion.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But we have to be shrewd about using that, using our spending rule of 5% a year as to what we use that for. And if you do the math on the $1.5 billion and the amount that we really use to calculate that, which is about $700 million, it's about $30-something million you put into the operating budget of a $1 billion enterprise. So you have to be realistic about what those things go to pay for.
Starting point is 00:19:10 All right then. President Wayne Frederick, I appreciate you joining us here on Roller Martin Dunfieldfield. Thanks. All right, folks. We want to bring in my panel now. Rebecca Carruthers, President, CEO of Fair Election Center from D.C., Dr. Derek Jackson, State Representative out of Georgia from Atlanta, Zabora G., D.EIA Consultant and Employment Specialist from D.C.
Starting point is 00:19:32 as well. Rebecca, I'll start with you. This is obviously called some serious, serious PR issues for Howard University. But the bottom line is this is also an economic issue, and I'm glad to see the number of people who are getting assistance and who will be enrolled the 502. He said so far more than 200. The story is very layered. So I went to Nebraska for law school, but I did a semester abroad through Howard Law. through its South Africa program, and I did studies at University of Western Cape, which is an HBCU in South Africa. That was a school that both black and colored students could go to during apartheid. I remember what it was like when I was transferring some of my student aid from Nebraska law
Starting point is 00:20:26 to Howard, and I'm getting those calls saying that I didn't pay and all of these other things and having to spend time on the phone with Howard Financial Aid Office. So it's sad to see that there are still issues with students versus some of the issues I had 20 years ago. That said, we are also in an environment, a political dynamic that is trying to defund the ability of black folks in this country to seek higher education. We know black women over index and seeking higher education,
Starting point is 00:21:01 and so all of the avenues that have, have allowed for that to happen is being swiftly shut down by this administration. I think what's unfortunate is Howard is caught in a perfect storm. Perfect storm of maybe having an inaccurate financial aid system, having an accurate bursor system, also facing the political headwinds of what's happening in this country. I know there are other HBCUs and, quite frankly, there are PWIs that are dealing with some of these issues and caps on federal money. However, Howard and Howard alum make it very clear that they are, that they have a certain level of excellence.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So if that's what you're telling the public in every other thing, then you also have to have a standard of excellence when it comes to your financial aid and billing process. Precisely. And Derek, that was one of the points that when I asked the president, bottom line is Howard has to fix their internal issues. See, here's the whole point. Okay. School is starting next month. We have not done this story for Florida A&M or North Carolina A&T or Morehouse or Spelman. And so my hope to me, my point is if I'm the president of Howard University,
Starting point is 00:22:22 if I'm in the administration, I don't want to be in the news. So what I'm going to do is drill down and say, what the hell happened here that created this. tsunami. And listen, 502 out of 20, saying 502 freshmen but 2,200 got enrolled, I understand that, but 502 was a hell of a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:22:47 502 is a lot of students incoming potential freshmen. And you're exactly right, Roland, this is not happening. This is not a widespread challenge. It's not happening at FAMU. It's not
Starting point is 00:23:01 happening right here at Moore House or Spellman. And I agree with Rebecca. I mean, this is not a first-time issue, Rola, and you brought it out during your interview with him, and he said it. They have problems all the time. And listen, I, and full transparency,
Starting point is 00:23:21 I love Howard University, right? I got seven children. Someone went to PWI, some of them went to an HBCU, and Howard is one of our considered mecas. And this is not a off, this is not a missed up or a mix-up. And I certainly, and I know I appreciate you covering this because one of the things that we have to do, especially in our community, is bring light and say, listen, there's a problem. We have 502 students having challenges.
Starting point is 00:23:55 What are you doing to fix it? Because these parents, especially the alumni, want this problem fixed. And so this is not simply just a mix-up. And yes, there's a political side and certainly don't want to already add on to what Rebecca mentioned. But the other side, we demand excellent. That's our expectation when it comes to HBCUs
Starting point is 00:24:17 and Howard is on the top of that chart. The morality right, point blank, position I have is I'm telling everybody. We ain't having this problem next year. I mean, we ain't dealing with this. I remember Florida A&M had issues with
Starting point is 00:24:33 checking the grades of their football players and a number of them couldn't play in the game because they had not been approved. And that's one of those things that, I'm sorry, that can't happen. That simply cannot happen. And so, again, you deal with the present problem, which is the student that couldn't get in. You rectify as many as possible.
Starting point is 00:24:58 To his point, there may be people who chose not to go to Howard because there are a lot of people who get accepted but they go to other institutions. But you fix it as quickly possible and you tell everybody, yo, we ain't having this problem next year. We're not going to be on the news next year. When Howard had their issues
Starting point is 00:25:15 with their dormitories, same thing. I get, unless you've got old infrastructure, but you send word to everybody, we are not going old school. We're not going to be on the front page. We're not going to be at the top of the news show showing all these problems. That has to be made clear, and then the word also has to be,
Starting point is 00:25:37 and if you clearly don't get that, then you're not going to be working here. Definitely. I'm a current student right now in Howard University's PhD in Social Work Program, and just as a social worker looking at everything that's been going on and really understanding that they're layered problems. We have to get our systems right. We need to do some program evaluations and check things. these offices and make sure that they are running efficiently. But at the same time, for us to say we've had this problem from year to year, that lets us know that this is a problem.
Starting point is 00:26:13 It shouldn't happen every year. It's not happening at other schools. And this is not the first or the last time that Howard was going to be on mainstream media and on social media. And if we don't take these accusations seriously, because there were more than just these students are unenrolled for, you know, the financial aspect of things. I am a person that I can say Howard has did better with communication for financial aid this year. I never received that before in my previous years, but this year I received a lot of emails. However, I will also say there's
Starting point is 00:26:49 problems in housing. There's problems with the income infringement and they're taking the brunt of this. And we got to do something different. You have to make sure that the financial aid system is correct. The political system is impacting graduate students, professional students. When you say professional students, I'm a social worker, we're a professional program. We've been impacted by the Big Beautiful Bill. So
Starting point is 00:27:13 I think that looking at it from a more macro scale and really understanding how these students are impacted and not just dismissing it or minimizing it, your communication has to be better. Absolutely. All right, folks. Got to go to break. We come back. Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett lights up a congressional panel.
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Starting point is 00:34:54 which is not surprising because they're pouring millions of dollars into Republican campaigns across the country. Let us play a game of follow the money, shall we? GEO Group has donated more than one million to Donald Trump's super PAC, nearly one million to Speaker Mike Johnson's Super PAC, hundreds of thousands to John Thune's Super PAC. So they spend millions to get Republicans elected around the country, and in return, they get federal contracts to operate detention facilities. Republicans in Congress ignore the fact that people are dying in their facilities because of inhumane conditions and potentially criminal negligence. Also, since our last hearing on this topic,
Starting point is 00:35:37 ICE agents have killed seven people, including the brutal murders of multiple Americans. American citizens. This is all occurring while DHS routinely violates federal law. In 2024, Congress passed a law that allows members of Congress to visit detention facilities without providing any prior notice. DHS has repeatedly violated this law. They have stopped members of Congress from entering detention facilities to conduct oversight visits. GEO group and DHS have not only blocked members of Congress from entering their building, They have also blocked the state of New Jersey and the city of Newark from conducting their own oversight. The governor has called for the facility to be closed.
Starting point is 00:36:22 The city of Newark has sued GEO. The New Jersey Attorney General successfully sued GEO so that health inspectors must be allowed into the facility. So a record number of people are dying in ICE's custody, mainly at facilities operated by GEO, and ICE is shooting and killing a record amount of fire. people, yet again, the chairman has failed to call any government official to testify before this subcommittee. No one from ICE, no one from CBP, no one from the DOJ, and no one from the White House. So Democratic members of Congress like Congresswoman La Monica McIvor have been conducting oversight themselves. In May of 2025, Rick McIver was participating in a lawful congressional
Starting point is 00:37:12 oversight visit at Delaney Hall with the mayor of Newark and other members of Congress. During the visit, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, who wants to become the AG, ordered the violent arrest of Newark Mayor Raz Baraka. According to BodyCam footage worn by the violent federal officers, they arrested the mayor, quote, per the deputy attorney general of the United States. The federal agents also said that they would arrest. arrest anyone who would, quote, get in their way. The federal agents then violently assaulted the mayor, Rep. McIver, Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman, and Rep. Rep. Menendez. Todd Blanche is now
Starting point is 00:37:57 prosecuting Rep. McIver instead of DHS and GEO officials who continue to break the law while a record amount of people are dying in their facilities are being shot and killed by DHS agents on the streets in America. This is one of the many reasons why Todd Blanche should never become the Attorney General of the United States. Last week, during his Senate confirmation hearing, the acting attorney general said aloud what everyone here already knows, that he serves as the president's attorney and not on behalf of the American people. Blanche blocked investigations into the murders of Renee Good and Alex Prattie. He gave Trump and his sons a super pardon that gives them lifelong protection from any investigation, audit, lawsuit, or prosecution by any federal agency for any violation of federal law.
Starting point is 00:38:54 He created the $2 billion fund to pay January 6 insurrectionists for attacking the capital. He's protecting the pedophiles and sex traffickers in the Epstein files. He's threatening reporters with prosecution. he's lied numerous times to federal judges and refused to abide by federal court orders. And just like the Republicans on this committee, he's part of the DHS coverup that's using American tax paying dollars to brutalize tens of thousands of people, even killing them. And when I say people, I'm talking about citizens and otherwise. If the Republicans really wanted to know what was happening at Delaney Hall or any other detention facility, they would push for unannounced congressional and independent oversight.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Since the Republicans claim to be Christian, they should open their Bibles and read Ephesians Chapter 5, verse 11, that states, quote, have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. I yield back. I just want to clarify one thing because there is this perception that is consistently put out there that if you are a Democrat, you are anti-law enforcement, that you are against the police. We are not anti-law enforcement. In fact, this weekend, I will be speaking at a national convention for law enforcement. So let me be clear about something. The most pro-law enforcement thing that you could ever do is making sure that the bad apples are absolutely treated as that because bad officers make good officers.
Starting point is 00:40:34 officers look terrible. And that is why real law enforcement has no problems when Democrats decide that they actually want to crack down and recognize that even law enforcement officers can commit crimes. Because the last time I checked, I don't understand who should be allowed to gun somebody down in the middle of the street. It's not armed and seemingly just has a little bit of melanin, and when it comes to Alex Prady and Renee Good, that wasn't even the reasons. It was the fact that they had the audacity to stand for people that had melanin. So, excuse me, but we are not anti-law enforcement. Let's put that on the record.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Secondly, I want to deal with something that the ranking member opened up with earlier when he talked about Galane Maxwell. The reality is that Galane Maxwell was convicted by a jury of her peers and sentenced to 20 years in a federal prison. yet somehow Galane Maxwell has more privileges than people who aren't accused of going out and sexually assaulting children. This is why we have a problem because it seems like our colleagues on the other side of the aisle continue to want to protect pedophiles while at the same time going after people, most of them who have come to this country seeking a better life, seeking the America that we sell to the rest of the world, which is the land of opportunity and the land of the free. That is what we have sold the world on, yet seemingly that's not what's happening when they arrive when they say that in their country, there is something that is causing them to need to seek asylum from the harms that are taking place in their countries. Now let me get to my official remarks before we have to go vote.
Starting point is 00:42:12 It seems like those super PAC bands are making these Republicans dance. Isn't it interesting that thousands of white people storming the U.S. Capitol and beating police officers made it home safely? but brown people posing no threat to ICE agents are suddenly killed in cold blood. The government pardon those January 6 rioters, yet the same government is now calling the non-white people, most of whom have no criminal record, quote, terrorists and criminals. Mr. Sinai, why do you think this is? Thank you for the question, ranking member Crockett. And I know you can talk forever, but just give me a little something.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Look, I think every legal system, the criminal legal system, the immigration system, is rife with racial injustice. We are seeing it play out in the streets every single day. People of color are being targeted unfairly and unjustly, while those who are white and those who have money are being let off the hook repeatedly. That's been the story of America. That's been the story throughout our nation's history, and it's the story that continues today. Thank you so much. So the best of your knowledge, did any of the protesters at Delaney Hall brutally beat police officers with still pipes? with still pipes?
Starting point is 00:43:23 No. What about spraying police officers with beer spray? No. What about tasing officers in the neck or stomping their heads? No. Who would you rather live next to one of the thousands of immigrants without criminal records but are being targeted by ICE or someone like David Daniel, a Trump supporter, who was pardoned but was found to be in possession of child pornography
Starting point is 00:43:46 in charge with sexual exploitation of a minor? I would rather live next to one of the thousand immigrants. Now, this Justice Department has taken the unprecedented step by criminally charging Congresswoman McIver. Why do you think the Republicans in Congress are louder about nonviolent immigrants without criminal records, but silent about the executive branch prosecuting a member of the legislative branch for conducting legitimate legislative business? Thank you for bringing up the case against Ms. McIver. Every single member of Congress should be outraged by what's happening to her, regardless of party, because they are going after a congresswoman for doing her job.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And that's why we at the ACLU had filed an amicus brief in support of her and calling for the charges to be dropped. They are going after a sitting congresswoman for doing her job and nothing else. And we're going to continue fighting for her. Thank you. My next question was about your amicus brief. But I'll move on now because you already brought it up. We've already established in this hearing
Starting point is 00:44:47 and not just in this hearing, but honestly, the American people are not crazy. The American people are outraged. They're trying to pretend as if people are just going to Delaney Hall and it's simply because Delaney Hall is just, I don't know, the victim in this particular set of circumstances, but no one today, as we've gone through this hearing, has decided to say the name of Jean Brutus,
Starting point is 00:45:14 a 41-year-old asylum seeker from hate. and for those that don't know the history of what was going on in Haiti, but there was a brutal overtaking of the government in Haiti. They actually had gang members that actually went in and brutally murdered their leader. There's a safety issue that is taking place in Haiti. So here it was he was an asylum seeker. December 12th, 2025, he ended up dying in Delaney Hall. He had only been in Delaney Hall. for one day. So while some may want to pretend as if there's nothing to see, in fact, we should
Starting point is 00:45:53 have had a hearing that would have allowed us to get to the bottom of and potentially seek justice and make sure that other people don't die in our custody in an unwarranted and unlawful way. That is what I want to do, Mr. Chairman, and I hope that we can move forward with making sure that anyone who is taken into our immigration system that they are taken in and they are given their day in court and they get due process, but their constitutional rights are not violated. Thank you, and I'll yield. See, the thing here, Derek,
Starting point is 00:46:24 is that people have died. People have literally died in custody. And the onus should be put on Donald Trump and his maga goons because death is death. Yeah, death is death.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And in fact, we don't even know what that true number is. Some in the report say, 50, some say over 100 in the last 18 months. Because these citizens to also be in U.S. citizens,
Starting point is 00:46:57 not just immigrants. So we don't even know how many U.S. citizens who have been detained and died under ICE, and we don't know how many. Why? Because they were not afforded their fourth and
Starting point is 00:47:13 fifth amendments of the Constitution of the United States. So while everybody's up here celebrating 250 years of this country and rule of law and they keep preaching this whole thing about the Department of Justice, cleaning things up, secured in our border.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Meanwhile, they're demonstrating the most inhumane thing that this country is going to have a stain on them for a very long time. And here's my last point, rolling. When government facilities lock out individuals'
Starting point is 00:47:47 like Jasmine Crockett, a congresswoman, and they have the responsibility of oversight where they cannot go in and investigate and observe and tour places like this where they cannot fulfill their congressional duties, that's a problem. And that's showing that this administration is hiding the abuse and the death.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Hey, I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast OnCore. Check out our brand new episodes featuring music from the show that everyone is reheating as we speak. Heated rivalry. Join me as I go behind the songs that brought Shane and Elia together. I'll tell you the stories of Fice, My Moon, My Man, Wolf for raids, I'll believe in anything, and tattoos all the things she said, and how they all became a part of this global phenomenon. Stream encore on IHeart Radio, crave, or wherever you get your podcasts. A decade ago, the ethanol kingpin of Iowa,
Starting point is 00:48:46 became the king of corn in Brazil. So we met with a lot of larger farmers, went from Bahia to Tokatines to Madagroso. And he brought a team of executives. They were going to help the country get in on a gold rush. Carbon and its derivatives are going to be really the next great commodity that the globe's going to trade. But back home in Iowa, trouble was brewing.
Starting point is 00:49:08 If you live in Iowa, your land, your water, and your voice could all be at risk thanks to a man named Bruce Rastetter. Now, people are questioning if his climate solutions have anything to do with climate at all. You got to give Bruce and the guy's credit. They're Republicans. They don't give a shit about it. It's now. On this season of drilled, Carbon Cowboys, the story of how the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil and what it tells us about the limits of technology and markets to solve the climate crisis.
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Starting point is 00:50:29 Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. Of U.S. citizens. That's wrong. Zabor, shortly I'm going to play a quote, comment from Ohio Governor Mike DeWine, talking about what the impact is going to be on American health care. if they start deporting Haitians in Venezuela. The reason I say that, because there is a lot of anti-immigrant sentiment
Starting point is 00:50:55 among some African Americans. And when people yell close the border, I need people to understand that when we talk about immigrants or undocumented people being in this country, we're not just talking about people who are picking fruit, people who are working in fast food. our health care industry where we already have a shortage of doctors and nurses is going to be seriously impacted. Zabor?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Definitely. Okay, I'm sorry. Definitely, when we think about it, black immigrants have always been a target. When we think of immigration acts as far back from how we've limited Haiti and all of the black immigrants in coming into. to America. This is something that happens all the time. You know, the Attorney General is not the President's personal attorney. We can
Starting point is 00:51:57 we need congressional oversight. We need to understand that someone has to hold these people accountable. We can't allow justice to be perverted and shown partially and accepting bribes. It's like, how do you accept campaign
Starting point is 00:52:14 donations and not think of the humanity that is being sacrificed at the extent of more lining your pockets with money and then trying to say that this is not a big deal or this is not something that we should be concerned about. Black immigrants
Starting point is 00:52:30 are always going to be impacted more than other immigrants. It's way easier to come into this country from a place that is full of white immigrants. We saw that with what President Trump said about South Africans and just
Starting point is 00:52:46 that misdirection of What's really going on with immigration? CBS News interviewed Ohio Governor Mike DeWine, and I just want to play for you something that he said that really speaks to what we're talking about here, Rebecca. Listen to this. We just reported, Governor, that ICE is planning
Starting point is 00:53:09 to mount a series of operations, including here in Ohio, to target arrests and ultimately deport some of the Haitian immigrants who are set to lose their legal status here. What is your initial reaction to that? Well, it's a mistake. It's not good for the United States, and it's not good for the state of Ohio.
Starting point is 00:53:28 These are people who have helped Springfield really come back. Springfield has been making a real comeback. The Haitians who are living there and employed there, they came there to work, and they came there because there were jobs that were not being filled by other people. And so if you talk to the employers in Springfield who are employing the Haitians,
Starting point is 00:53:49 will tell you that. These are people who have opened restaurants. They've opened other businesses. They've rehabbed houses. They've created jobs as well as fill jobs. Well, sorry. And so to lose them and have them not be able to work anymore and possibly, you know, taken out of this country is frankly a blow to Springfield and it's a blow to the state of Ohio. If you look at the growth we've had in Ohio, we've had some growth. 60% of that growth has come from immigrants. And, sir, have you received any notification, any communication from ICE about these planned operations?
Starting point is 00:54:27 I've received no notification, no. Nothing at all. Nothing at all as far as... Now, that wasn't the only thing that he said. He talked about, again, the impact on health care. Again, people need to understand the role that immigrants play. And again, you can be as all anti-immigrant you want to be, but all of a sudden, they start to board and fuck.
Starting point is 00:54:49 and then you look at doctors and nurses who are not here, that means that you may put your life and be at risk because of a shortage in health care. Why do you feel so strongly about this? I think history tells us that this country was built with immigrants. My family came here in the 1840s escaping the famine in Ireland. And my great-great-grandfather came to Yellow Springs and worked on the railroad building the railroad at the time.
Starting point is 00:55:19 There's always been a blend of people who are native to Ohio, who have been here for generations, but also people who come in. I think that this is a great opportunity, frankly, for President Trump. He has done a phenomenal job. His administration has done a phenomenal job in taking care of a huge problem. That problem was the southern border. The southern border is virtually now sealed. It's what we wanted.
Starting point is 00:55:46 That's what people expected him to do and what he's been able to do. The fact that the border has not been sealed in the past and that it's been a huge problem has caused this country not to be able to have a debate about legal immigration. I think that the president has the opportunity to turn this and to say, look, it's now time, we've got a border sealed. It's now time to have a discussion with the Congress and the American people. Who do we need in this country? Who is in our economic interest to have in this country?
Starting point is 00:56:19 I'll give you one statistic in Ohio, I think 22 or 23 percent of our physicians are foreign-born. Our STEM workers, a large number of them, are foreign-born. These are just facts, and if a good debate will bring that out. We need to develop an immigration policy that is an... Rebecca, this is a Republican governor in Ohio. You know, Roland, the reason why I'm not. Why this issue is so hard for a lot of politicians is that this country doesn't have the moral authority in creating its policy on immigration in this country.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Like, mind you, this is stolen land that these very people have stolen, come into this country and then try to say, oh, people can't come into this country. I mean, even in American history, American history chose to whitewash it. Look at the Statue of Liberty. The Statue of Liberty was given to the U.S. from France to support the emancipation of enslaved black people on this continent. Instead, through whitewashing of history, it became, oh, no, the Statue of Liberty is about welcoming immigrants some to this country.
Starting point is 00:57:29 That's what Ellis Island is all about. That isn't the case. That isn't reality. That isn't the history of this country. And so trigger warning for your audience, it should not be—so being in the America undocumented, your punishment should not be rape. We know that many—both men and women. men, boys and girls who are in ICE custody have reported being raped. We see that there
Starting point is 00:57:55 is 12, 13, 14-year-old children who are now pregnant and have now been moved, according to reports, have been moved to special facilities within the ICE system. What's happening within ICE is not okay. And even if you are a black American, you should care about this issue. You should care about the humanity. There were jokes about alligator al-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. In Florida. You know why that's disgusting? Because my ancestors, especially black enslaved children and babies, were considered alligator bait. This is American history.
Starting point is 00:58:33 This is the American way of doing things. And because of that, America does not have the moral clarity or authority on the issue of immigration. So where the question shall lie is, is the penalty of being the penalty of being able to be in this country undocumented, should it be death? If the penalty should not be death, then there should actually be humane facilities, humane treatment of people who are in ICE custody. If we really care about the humanity here,
Starting point is 00:59:04 then these people shouldn't be rounded up similar to a century and a half ago when you had slave catchers terrorizing black folks all across the south and into the north. And so we need to have a conversation centered around humanity because this is a humanitarian crisis. I understand that every modern nation state must secure its borders. Absolutely. But the conversation that we're seeing, the policies are being put forth is about protecting our borders or knowing who's in the country versus not knowing
Starting point is 00:59:38 who's inside your country. Like there shouldn't be poorest borders. No country should have poorest borders. But that's not what this is centered about. Instead, this is centered about. Instead, this is centered about removing black and brown people from this country so this nation can be a white country? I also want people to think about this here. I saw something from Neil deGrasi Tyson the other day. I need people to understand what's going on here. There is a literal dumbing down of America. I'm going to say this
Starting point is 01:00:18 and Trump has already said it Maca believes it they actually want dumb Americans they do not want smart people and when when Charlie Kirk all the people are like oh you mean you telling me we can find
Starting point is 01:00:33 Americans who can do that okay trying to find the next generation of American scientists and whatever that's a 20-25 year process if you don't
Starting point is 01:00:46 front was happening elementary school, middle school, high school, college, graduate, that ain't happening. And so there is an attack on science. There's an attack on having smart people. Y'all, the long ball is, China and other countries are watching us and they're going, thank you for choosing to be stupid. Listen to this. There's an intellectual vacuum. scientific vacuum that is descending upon the United States. And that has consequences. I'm not here to tell people who to vote for or what to vote for or who your candidate is has nothing to do with this.
Starting point is 01:01:28 It has to do with an if-then statement. If you're okay with the United States losing its scientific leadership, especially in the physical sciences, if you're okay with that, you will get the country you voted for. And that country is one where we will no longer innovate because our greatest innovations are based on the frontier science that's way beneath them, hidden from the daily news reports, hidden from what you see and hear about as you surf the internet.
Starting point is 01:02:04 That goes away. We lose the foundation of our innovations, and the United States fades on the world stage. And they will do things that will impress us. will impress us. Just as we did things, my entire life growing up, that impressed the world. We went to the moon. Nobody else was close to going to the moon.
Starting point is 01:02:26 As a scientist, it kind of doesn't matter who's making the advances because the fields of... Hey, I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast, Encore. Check out our brand new episodes featuring music from the show that everyone is reheating as we speak. Heated rivalry. Join me as I go behind the songs that brought Shane and Elia together. I'll tell you the stories of Fice, My Moon, My Man, Wolf forades, I'll believe in anything, and tattoos all the things she said, and how they all became a part of this global phenomenon. Stream encore on Iheart Radio, crave, or wherever you get your podcasts. A decade ago, the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil.
Starting point is 01:03:08 So we met with a lot of larger farmers, went from Bahia to Tokatines to, to, you know, a lot to grow. And he brought a team of executives. They were going to help the country get in on a gold rush. Carbon and its derivatives are going to be really the next great commodity that the globe's going to trade. But back home in Iowa, trouble was brewing. If you live in Iowa, your land, your water, and your voice could all be at risk thanks to a man named Bruce Rastetter. Now people are questioning if his climate solutions have anything to do with climate at all. You got to give Bruce and the guy's credit. They're in public kids. They don't get a bit of money.
Starting point is 01:03:44 On this season of drilled, Carbon Cowboys, the story of how the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil, and what it tells us about the limits of technology and markets to solve the climate crisis. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. From daily news to dating fails, conspiracy theories to cooking with celebrities who can't actually cook, Amazon Music's got the most ad-free top-book. podcasts ready to entertain, included with Prime. As parents, we have a million things running through our minds.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Play dates, checkups, laundry, diapers, work, groceries. So it's easy to make a mistake. Oh, I forgot birthday candles. We say we'd never put our kids in danger by leaving them in the car alone. Sit tight on, I'll be right back. But temperatures as low as 60 degrees can be deadly for children left behind. So always bring them with you. and every time you park the car.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Stop, look, lock. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. Science move forward. But as an American, I like baseball, I eat hot dogs and I eat apple pie? Yeah, I'm American. It kind of hurts to watch this hard-earned leadership evaporate. We will be less secure, less healthy, and less wealthy. Because some community.
Starting point is 01:05:14 of people who influence what this country is do not see the value of science deep below all of that. Zabor, he nailed it. These people really love dumbness, and MAGA is feasting off of this literal stupidity. It's a war on our intellectual abilities from how you're at. attacking the education system, from how you attacking universities, with funding, with just the ability to be free of thought. Institutions are supposed to be places where we can question everything, create new knowledge. If we can have the scientists in place to where we can make these discoveries, when you look at the impact that black inventors have had on America and the progression of America
Starting point is 01:06:17 and how far we've came and how we've been able to be global leaders, people of color have always led the forefront of these things. We have been the reason of why America is constantly pushed forward. So when you look at things like upholding and uplifting January 6th attackers and terrorists, and you look at how science is being impacted and how we're not, We're not thinking about agriculture and climate control and environmental justice and all of these things. We are dismantling these programs, taking funding from the federal programs like USA that sustains us and that creates all of this research and this knowledge that makes us leaders. We have to do something about it.
Starting point is 01:07:10 You think that you are impacting black and brown people from going. a university because black women were the number one educated group of people, you think that's the case when in reality you're actually making, for lack of a better word, America can go to hell in the handbasket very quickly by taking away all of the things that have made us great. The thing that is crazy, Rebecca, if you even think about the atomic bomb, go to my iPad. This is from nps.g.O.
Starting point is 01:07:48 It was literally refugees who pushed America to advance in the building of the nuclear bomb. I'm like, but again, no, matter is so fixated and Trump knows the game. He knows his people are not smart. He knows they can't read. He plays to them being dumb.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And I remember years ago I was on CNN with John Avlon and Ascent Cooper and John's like, you know, I'm not going to call the American voters dumb. I said, I will. He's playing on their dumbness. This is a Republican governor of Ohio. Ohio has gone deep red over NAFTA and other issues. And guess what? All those broke white people in the Midwest who are sitting here saying,
Starting point is 01:08:39 Oh, Trump understands me. No, he doesn't. He's playing you. I keep saying it. These broke white people couldn't even walk through the lobby of Mar-Larcoe or any of his hotels. And he's playing them, and they don't even realize it. Look, girl, it's not just broke white people in the Midwest. It's white people across this country, whether they're broke or not.
Starting point is 01:09:04 A lot of the hedge fund managers are white, and there are a lot of them are white men. And statistically, at least 75% of white men support Donald Trump. So let's just, like, I'm pushing back here because sometimes I hear, especially I hear this from a lot of white liberals who try to say, oh, well, those are just ignorant, dumb white people. No, this is white people in this country. Oh, no, no, no, no, I agree. But the reason I'm specific to Ohio, because this was Mike DeWine, their governor, who's sitting here going like, yo, this is our economy. And the white folks in the Springfield, they should have been the ones pushing. back the hardest against J.D. Vance and Donald Trump by saying y'all know what the hell
Starting point is 01:09:44 y'all are talking about? Well, Mike have a lot of nerve too because guess who he's supposed to? This isn't like Donald Trump just showed up yesterday and said, okay, this is what I'm going to do. This is who this man said he was. He's doing the things he said he was going to do. So the Mike DeWine's great. Glad you're joining the party. But okay, why don't you do good stuff in the state of Ohio that you could do now while you are still the executive of all So I'm not about to give him like points. I'm not suggesting that you are. I'm just making it in plain.
Starting point is 01:10:15 This is not the time to give Mike DeWine points. Oh, no, no. I'm not getting. He's a part of this issue too. Right. Derek, I'm not giving him points. But again, this is a perfect example. You supported the dude.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Now you're realizing you're about to get screwed in your state. And your economy is about to tank because of this idiot at 1,600 Pennsylvania Avenue. You're exactly right. In fact, they knew about the plan. Before the plan was executed, Roland, we all discovered Project 2025 back in 2023. And in Project 2025, it was very clear that their objectives were four things
Starting point is 01:10:55 to make us dumb, poor, sick, and powerless. Dumb, poor, sick, and powerless. And they were going after everyone, not just poor white people, they were going after everyone. They were very clear. They said, and what did they do? The very first thing, they started dismantling the Department of Education.
Starting point is 01:11:18 They just took an axe handle to it. And then they said, we're going after our money. And they're going to enrich themselves. We got a trillion here now. And then they said, we're going to make you sick. And just CDC said today that measles outbreak is the highest it has been in 35. years. That's getting not just white people, that's getting us too,
Starting point is 01:11:45 our children. And then they said, we're going to make it powerless. We're going to go after your civil rights, your human rights, your constitutional rights. And so they're executing exactly what they told us in 2023, what they're going to do if they get back in power and exercise Project
Starting point is 01:12:01 2025 to make us dumb, that make us poor, to make us sick, and to make us powerless. So we should not be surprised. Yep, absolutely. All right, folks, So lots more to talk about, including a tax and Medicare Plan D. We'll break that down, as well as protecting this next election. Lots of discussion.
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Starting point is 01:18:19 Lock, brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. We're 96 days from the midterm elections. With attacks on voting rights and the attention on voter fraud, many organizations are positioning themselves to fight back. The Election Protection Coalition is coordinating trained volunteers and professionals to make sure everyone gets the right to vote. To be a factory as a national coordinator for the Election Protection Coalition. She joins us right now.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I'm glad to have you on the show. All right, so real basic, how y'all protecting us? Well, we are a national coalition comprised of over 300 plus voting rights organizations. We partner with the Legal Defense Fund, ACLU, to deploy poll monitors on foot during election day in early voting to make sure that election laws are in compliance, to make sure that polling locations are not perpetuating voter intimidation, as well as a hotline. We have a hotline, 866, our vote, which is an election protection hotline that anybody can call at any time. time for any questions that they might have about voting, as well as to report any instances of discrimination that we are happy to litigate and yeah, and to bring forth to the public. For a number of years, y'all partnered with the Tom Joy on a morning show when I did commentary
Starting point is 01:19:53 is there, and that was a partnership there. So explain the people, just give us a couple of examples of the kind of stuff y'all have to deal with doing early voting or actually on election day coming to the aid of folks. Absolutely. So, I mean, Calais is a great example, right? What we just saw at the Supreme Court where the Voting Rights Act was basically gutted, right? Maps being redrawn confuse voters.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Voters know their precincts. They know their polling locations. But when these abrupt changes happen, early voting, we see a high call volume of especially black and elderly voters who have questions and who are confused. We also see poll workers engaging with misconduct, right? engaging in partisan activities,
Starting point is 01:20:40 intimidating voters as they're casting their ballot. So to us, it's extremely important that elections remain free and fair and safe in the state of Texas, as well as, which is where I'm based out of from, I'm calling today from Texas, but across the country, right? Because the foundation of our democracy,
Starting point is 01:20:56 these seeds were sowed by our ancestors. And so we want to protect that, as well as the vote of anybody who wants to cast their ballot. And here's a perfect, example, there are people who might show up at the wrong location. And you've had some poll workers who didn't even tell them where it actually was. I've heard what they said, hey, I'm not obligated to do so. And so now that voters like, well, man, where do I go? Where do I call?
Starting point is 01:21:25 And to your point, a lot of elderly voters. I remember I was in Dallas. I remember there was a video so people tried to make jokes about it when I was shedding tears when people went voting. because, man, it was like 6 a.m. They were in line. It was a massive line, and it was cold. And I remember the day before I was getting ready to do the show at Friendship West Baptist Church, which is a voting location. It was an old brother.
Starting point is 01:21:48 He drove up slowly. He was like, young man, he said, is this where voting is going to be tomorrow? I said, yes. He said, no, what time again? My man was like doing his, he was pre-gameing it. He was landing out. I remember another year, Millie. Kimberly Campbell, National Coalition on Black Civic Participation, they were doing phone banking,
Starting point is 01:22:08 and they were calling folks in Florida, and they hit this 90-year-old black woman. She said, baby, y'all need to call me. She said, my son is coming to pick me up tomorrow at 9 a.m. Bill, why is my eye twitching? Does this mean I'm in perimenopause? Where's my phone? Julianna, maybe we can ask an actual human. Yes, because I have questions, and I bet you do too.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Like, is it normal to sleep in separate bedrooms? we do that, and I still need to know why my poop's been green. We've got actual people answering these exact questions. Listen to Bill and Juliana. The podcast. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. I've been hearing for decades that the markets can solve climate change. Today, we have more incentives for market solutions than ever, and emissions are rising.
Starting point is 01:22:59 On this season of drilled, Carbon Cowboys, the story of three market solutions, colliding in one multinational boondoggle. You've got to give Bruce of the guys credit. They're Republican. They don't give a shit about it in this now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. From Daily News to dating fails, conspiracy theories to cooking with celebrities who can't actually cook, Amazon Music's got the most ad-free top podcasts ready to entertain, included with Prime. As parents, we have a million things running through our...
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