#RolandMartinUnfiltered - HU protest ends, GA Atty. wants mistrial, Biden signs infrastructure bill, Mental & Sexual Health
Episode Date: November 16, 202111.15.21 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: President Joe Biden signs one of his biggest legislative victories into law - the $555 billion infrastructure bill. Texas Representative Al Green will join us to di...scuss this landmark bill, the Build Back Better Plan, and voting legislation.Melanie Campbell, President and CEO of the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation, will join us to talk about reported tensions in the White House.The same Georgia defense attorney who said they did not need any more black preachers at the trial of the three men who hunted and killed Ahmaud Arbery asked for a mistrial. Why? Because Jesse Jackson was in the courtroom! Arbery family Attorney Lee Merritt will join us.And In Wisconsin, the judge presiding over the Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial dismisses the underage weapons charge and will allow the jury to consider the victims provoked their own shooting.A federal appeals court rejects Oklahoma death row inmate Julius Jones's appeal to stay his execution scheduled this Thursday. His only hope is Governor Kevin Stitt, who has yet to grant Jones clemency. A Black Texas teen was attacked with a stun gun by students dressed in KKK garb on Halloween. His attorney will tell us what is and is not happening in this case.After a month of protesting, the students and the administration of Howard University have come to an agreement regarding housing conditions.And Dooley from Effect Fitness will tell us how working out helps your mental and sexual health. #RolandMartinUnfiltered partners: Verizon | Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband, now available in 50+ cities, is the fastest 5G in the world.* That means that downloads that used to take minutes now take seconds. 👉🏾https://bit.ly/30j6z9INissan | Check out the ALL NEW 2022 Nissan Frontier! As Efficient As It Is Powerful! 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3FqR7bPAmazon | Get 2-hour grocery delivery, set up you Amazon Day deliveries, watch Amazon Originals with Prime Video and save up to 80% on meds with Amazon Prime 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3ArwxEh+ Don’t miss Epic Daily Deals that rival Black Friday blockbuster sales 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3iP9zkv👀 Manage your calendar, follow along with recipes, catch up on news and more with Alexa smart displays + Stream music, order a pizza, control your smart home and more with Alexa smart speakers 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3ked4liBuick | It's ALL about you! The 2022 Envision has more than enough style, power and technology to make every day an occasion. 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3iJ6ouPSupport #RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfilteredDownload the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com#RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Coming up on Roland Martin on Phil's Live Streaming
live on the Black Star Network.
President Joe Biden signs one of his biggest achievements,
the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill.
We'll talk with Texas Congressman Al Green
about the Build Back Better plan right here.
Also, why the continued attacks
against Vice President Kamala Harris?
What's going on here?
We'll talk with Melody Campbell,
President and CEO of the National Coalition
on Black Civic Participation, about all of the drama going on
and the targeting of this system.
The same Georgia defense attorney,
oh the white guy in the trial of three white men
who was accused of killing Ahmaud Arbery,
tried for a mistrial today, why?
Because he wasn't happy that Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr.
was in the courtroom.
Wait until we show you this nonsense that took place today
in Georgia.
And in Wisconsin, the judge presiding over the Kyle
Rittenhouse murder trial dismisses the underage weapons
charge and will allow the jury to consider the victims
provoked their own shooting.
A federal appeals court rejects Oklahoma death row inmate
Julius Jones' appeal to stay.
His execution is scheduled for Thursday.
His only hope is for Governor Kevin Stitt,
who has yet to grant Jones clemency.
A black Texas teen was attacked with a stun gun
by students dressed in KKK garb on Halloween.
We'll talk with his attorney about what's going on
in this case, plus a month of protesting.
Now the Blackburn takeover has ended at Howard University.
We will have the exclusive live stream this morning
of the Students News Conference.
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on Roland Martin Unfiltered with Blackstar Network.
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Here is what took place at the White House.
Yeah. Bravo.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Good job.
Everybody gets one.
All right.
Now, this is a huge deal, of course,
because it has been a contentious issue back and forth between the White House and folks on Capitol Hill.
You had 13 Republicans, of course,
who went along with this deal in the House.
You had 19 Republicans who voted for the bill in the United States Senate.
Republicans have been doing their part, complaining, calling the signing of this bill literally communism.
In a moment, we're going to hear from President Joe Biden.
Right now, I'm going to go to Texas Congressman Al Green, who joins us right now.
Congressman Green, glad to have you on the show.
First and foremost, this obviously is a huge deal when you go through this and you look at what's in the bill, needed improvements to America's infrastructure. But what do you make
of your colleagues, the Republicans, who continue to call this communism and socialism.
And making threats. Those 13 persons who signed on, who are members of the House,
have had a good deal of misery imposed upon them. And this used to be, Errol, and as you very well know, the kind of thing that we would coalesce around, compromise on, and produce a great piece
of legislation for the American people.
Unfortunately, things have progressed now to the point that if the Republicans do anything
at all, if they should do anything to support an effort that can be attributed to Democrats,
they're going to be ostracized and criticized.
The politics has become so divisive that merely deciding you're
going to do the right thing will get you in the wrong position with your party if you're a
Republican. Very sad, but true. Yeah, but when you go through this, we're talking about roads,
bridges, ports. We're talking about the infrastructure, the power grid. We're talking
about all these different things. I can guarantee you these same Republicans are going to be lining
up with their hands out saying, me, me, me, me, me, when it's time to distribute the money.
And they will be at the ribbon-cutting ceremonies. There's $65 billion for broadband.
We've got $110 billion for these roads and bridges and other ports that will be repaired.
And some will actually be enhanced by doing more than creating structural problems.
So it's a lot of money involved in it because the American Society of Engineers gave us a grade of D+.
You can't have a first-class country with second-class infrastructure.
So, yes, there will be that for the ribbon-cutting ceremonies,
but I think we'll have a duty to say something at those ceremonies
when credit is being taken and ask, how did you vote for it?
That's going to be the key question for a good many who will show up.
If you show up in my district, that's the question I'll be asking.
How did you vote for it?
Well, I'll tell you this here. If any of them show up at any ribbon-cutting ceremony,
it should be made perfectly clear, hey, so-and-so's here. Glad to see you. Y'all don't forget,
he or she voted against this. I think you make a good point. I also think this, that we have a responsibility
to our constituents to make sure
that they understand what's happening here.
We are making progress for them.
However, there is this desire, it seems,
to divert us to look at other social issues.
People want us to vote based upon things
that don't impact our lives on a daily basis.
Bridges impact our lives daily.
Whether or not you're going to vote for a person
because they've supported the abortion bill or not
doesn't impact our lives on a daily basis.
I support people doing what they want
and having a choice when it comes to these issues
like abortion.
But I don't believe that we should allow this to become the seminal issue when it comes to an election,
because we have too many other things that are impacting our lives on a daily basis.
This infrastructure bill is going to impact everybody in this country.
There will be charging stations across the country.
This is a first. The president has made it very clear that
we're going to move into electric cars. And that's a good thing because we cannot continue to pollute
the atmosphere. And to build back better, we have $555 billion to give us some sort of cleaning up
of our environment. That's very important as well. So we can't let people divert our attention. This is going to be the effort. Divert us away from the good things that we do so that they can somehow maintain the talking about this, but I do want to get your comment. The 10th person has died in the tragic case out of Astroworld. Massive lawsuits that are being
filed, more than 100 lawsuits have been filed thus far. Just your thoughts about what has unfolded
in our hometown of Houston. Yes. Well, we've said prayers and our thoughts and our sympathies,
but that is not enough.
Lives have been lost.
And somewhere along the way, we've got to do more than simply say we want them to have hope.
They've got to have some help.
People want closure.
And to get to closure, we've got to know who knew or should have known this could take place.
Somebody either knew or should have known this could happen. And we then need to know, was that person in a position
such that that person could make a difference,
could have prevented it?
And once we find out who knew, should have known,
could have prevented it, then we have to take some action
because there has to be some redress
for the people who have suffered the loss of loved ones.
Ten people
died. Nine-year-old baby has died as a result of this. And it was a horrible death.
So I'm grateful that you have kept this before the public, because we want to not only make
sure that it doesn't happen again in Houston. We don't want it to happen again anyplace
in this country. We live in a country where we can avoid this. We have avoided it on other occasions.
It's time to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
And we may have to have, I say may,
we haven't gotten there yet,
a congressional investigation into this
if the scope of it seems to be national
to the extent that other places may suffer
if we don't act.
All right then, Congressman Al Green,
it's always a pleasure to have you on the show.
I look forward to having you back. Thank you very much and happy birthday.
Yes, sir. Thank you so very much. Folks, as I said, President Joe Biden spoke about
the importance of the $1.2 trillion bill. This is what he said earlier today.
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Jill was very surprised I'm standing here.
Well, Heather, thank you for the introduction.
And I can't look over here because the sun's shining in my eyes,
but all this other crowd over here, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Well, you're done.
Look, thanks for sharing this day with us.
Why this day matters to you and your fellow ironworkers and your families, and you explained it well.
For all the folks at home, I know this day matters to you as well.
I know you're tired of the bickering in Washington, frustrated by the negativity,
and you just want us to use and focus on your needs,
your concerns,
and the conversations that are taking place
at your kitchen table.
Conversation as profound as they are ordinary.
How do I find work?
How do I get there?
How can our small business thrive and our child
succeed in school?
Or how do we emerge from this pandemic, not just a
little bit of breathing room, but with real
fighting chance to get ahead?
When we ran for president, to help, I thought maybe I
could help answer some of those questions for you and the needs you have. Because every time I'd ride home on Amtrak, I'd The President. The President. The Vice President. The President. The Vice President.
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What are they talking about?
They're talking about the things that I talked about at our kitchen table,
Jill at hers, and all of you as well.
And that's about how can we come together to be president for all Americans,
to make sure our democracy delivers for you, for all of you.
And I promise that we couldn't just build back
to what it was before.
We literally had to build back better.
You couldn't build back.
We're the only country that's always come out of
great crises stronger than we went in.
The world has changed, and we have to be ready.
My fellow Americans, today, I want you to know we hear
you and we see you.
The bill I'm about to sign along is proof that despite the cynics,
Democrats and Republicans can come together and deliver results.
We can do this.
We can deliver real results for real people.
We see in ways that really matter each and every day to each person out there.
And we're taking a monumental step forward to build back better as a nation.
I want to thank everyone who helped make this happen.
Vice President Harris, my cabinet members, my White House team, Jill, Doug, our First Lady,
and our Second Husband.
No, I'm joking.
These guys travel all over the country together.
I'm getting worried, you know.
And Doug's one hell of a lawyer, besides.
And everybody from the United States Senate,
Majority Leader Schumer, and a group of Senate Democrats and hell of a lawyer, besides. And everybody from the United States Senate,
Majority Leader Schumer,
and a group of Senate Democrats and Republicans
who established this bipartisan framework,
including representatives and all the folks you heard from.
Senator Rob Portman is a really hell of a good guy.
I'm not hurting you, Rob, because I know you're not running again.
That's the only reason I say it.
But you are a hell of a good guy.
And the most determined woman I know, Senator Kristen Sinema.
Congratulations, Kristen.
Look, Committee Chair Tom Carper, Ranking Member Shelley Moore Capito.
I also want to thank Minority Leader Mitch McConnell for voting for this bill
and talking about how useful and important it is.
And from the House of Representatives, Speaker Pelosi, Steny Hoyer. Leader Mitch McConnell for voting for this bill and talking about how useful and important it is.
And from the House of Representatives, Speaker Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, Jim Clyburn,
and Committee Chair Pete DeFazio, Democrats and Republicans, progressives and moderates,
I'd like to pause and ask all the committee chairs and ranking members of the United States Senate and House who are here today, please stand.
Will all of you stand?
Come on.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Dr. Omokongo Dabinga, professorial lecturer, School of International Service at American University.
Tammy Allison, she's a partner attorney.
And Eugene Craig, CEO, X Factor Media Inc.
Glad to have all three of you here. Eugene, you see by their touting the bipartisan effort there of the bill.
As I said to Congressman Al Green, you have Republicans who are running around yelling socialism and saying, oh, my God, this is communism.
Were they calling it communism when Trump was proposing a $2 trillion infrastructure bill last year?
I didn't realize repairing America's bridges and ports and dealing with lead pipes is now communism.
Look, as you see, whenever parties change power, so do priorities, right?
And it's easy to attack from the outside.
So, look, roads
are crappy, bridges are failing, airports need updating, and to be quite frank about
it, $1.2 trillion may not be enough to actually get the job fully done, but it's a good start.
Americans every single year spend upwards of $500, $600, you know, just on wheel alignment alone because of potholes from bad roads.
When you have over half your bridges are, you know, deficient when it comes to actually just sustaining themselves,
you know, what Republicans are going to, one, remove the action once that bridge is actually falling over and mass casualty events?
No. You know, it's the federal government's job to prevent those things and actually prepare these bridges or replace them.
It's a big bill.
It affects a lot of different
almost every American life. It affects a lot of
different sectors.
It's a good start.
I do get a kick out of
the folks who whine and complain
on the Congo, but trust me, their hands
are going to be out begging to get some of this but trust me, their hands are going to be out
begging to get some of this money. Billions of dollars are going to be spent in local communities
nationwide. I mean, look, Mitch McConnell didn't even wait to the signing today. Last week, he was
calling it a godsend, right? And they're already out there claiming that this is what they brought.
And this is part of Biden and the Democrats'
challenge because we know like 40, 45 percent of America is already gone in terms of they're caught up in conservative media and Fox and all of that. They didn't watch a ceremony today.
The Democrats have to be strong on the messaging. They have to go out into all these rural
communities. I think you mentioned this last week, you know, put a big old sign up saying that this
is brought to you by President Biden and Vice President Harris so that people will know.
Because every single day, these Republicans, they've already done it.
They're going to milk it. And when they start seeing broadband coming into these rural areas, the schools starting to be improved, they need to know that there's a Democratic face on top in front of it.
And furthermore, they need to get this messaging out and they need to
get the next part of the Build Back Better plan passed as well. Because as Malcolm Nance talks
about, we got a Republican insurgency that has to be dealt with. So we can celebrate today and we
can talk about all things that we need to be doing, but they need to get this out of the way
so we can get the voting rights out of the way so they can fight these Republicans who are still
unified and trying to take over this government.
And we have to make sure that the messaging on all of this
is very clear for the Democrats.
And Tammy, messaging is critically important.
And so what the Democrats do in order to sell this bill
is really going to be vital.
Absolutely.
And as someone who recently ran for the U.S. House of Representatives here in
Texas District 6, I understand how important it is for the Democrats to phrase this victory
strategically as we're coming up on names getting on the ballot for the primaries that are coming
up. I think that the bipartisan effort is something that the Democrats
are going to have to very much focus on to eliminate this very strong divisiveness that
we've seen. And I think that both the Democrats and Republicans are kind of over the extreme
arguing between the Democrats and the Republicans. So to be able to say confidently that this bill was passed with bipartisan support is very crucial for the Democrats to strategically take over and turn some of these districts and states blue that we've been seeing have not been able to be done in the past.
Look, that does indeed matter.
I do want to bring in Melanie Campbell.
She's with the National Coalition on Black Civic
Participation. She joins us right now. Melanie, glad to have you here. The White House offered
up a number of African-Americans today for interviews to tout this particular bill, to tout
its passage. Messaging is important. How must this be talked about on black radio, in the streets, in various communities?
Because you have those who say, look, we're not going to benefit from this.
It's going to be large white construction companies are going to actually make money from this.
And so what must be done to ensure that we African Americans, are getting our fair share? Thank you, Roland. First of all, I think we need to declare and understand that we help make
that happen. Those resources, those public sector resources, those public works resources, I know
there's a challenge when it comes to construction, but also, you're talking about the kinds of jobs that
will be created. There were a lot of mayors
there today for a reason.
I worked for the late Mayor
Jackson administration
many years ago.
So you had folks, the mayor
of Houston and Chicago
and small towns as well
because they know that those are
real resources that can come into our communities
that will be real good paying jobs.
And we're in construction too.
We have black construction companies.
And there's a lot that goes with those kinds of resources
that creates jobs.
It may not all be on the front line
of putting the pipes down,
but it's going to be those engineering
firms, all the things that create jobs.
And we have to know that we have to, which is why I wanted to be there today, because
we've been out here pushing.
That Build Back Better plan has two parts to it.
And one thing Vice President Harris said today is this is part one of two.
You heard a lot of that being said by Schumer and others, that this is
part of this
initial down payment on
quote-unquote, build back better. So I
think it's important that this administration
make sure that, I heard
my sister and brothers talking about
those that you want to try to
bring along, but the people who are your
base need to know that this was a victory.
And so it was very important.
I saw people from across the country that some of our people were here,
even from Michigan, that were in town for it.
So part of that messaging has to be to the base,
to know that this is important,
and this is going to bring resources to our community as well.
Prior to President Biden speaking,
Vice President Kamala Harris spoke.
I wanted to play what she had to say as well.
Please welcome Heather Kurtenbach. In a moment. The President of the United States,
the President of the United States,
and the President of the United States,
the President of the United States,
have come together to speak to you today.
Please welcome Heather Kurtenbach.
The President of the United States,
the President of the United States, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Cabinet members, Congress members, governors and mayors,
and my fellow Americans, this is an historic day.
In the middle of the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln
started construction on the Transcontinental Railroad.
In the middle of the Great Depression,
President Franklin Roosevelt finished construction
on the Hoover Dam.
President Dwight Eisenhower signed the National Interstate
and Defense Highways Act in the middle of the Cold War.
And today, and today, President Joe Biden
will sign the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act into law.
Indeed, it is an historic day today. From the very start of our administration,
we were determined to follow through, not just on our promise to invest in our nation's infrastructure, but on the promises that
the American people have heard for years now.
And we would not be here today were it not for
your leadership, Mr. President.
From the very start, you welcomed Democrats,
independents, and Republicans to meet with us
in the Oval Office.
You welcomed ideas.
You welcomed debate.
All in the service of getting this bill done.
And here is what I know to be true, Mr. President.
You are equal parts believer and builder. And because you are, we are all better off.
On behalf of our nation, thank you Mr. President.
And of course our administration did not arrive at this day by ourselves. We are
also here because of leaders in the House and the Senate who worked on this bill together, who voted for this bill.
And we are here because of the millions of Americans who believed that we could get this done.
Well, we got it done, America.
We got this done. Well, we got it done, America. We got it done. In many ways, this day embodies our character as a nation. It demonstrates exactly who we are. We are believers through and through. We see what can be unburdened by what has been. We are as bold as we are determined
to do big things. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act proves that. It proves that in America
we have the courage to believe a better future is possible and to build it together.
After this bill is signed into law, millions more Americans will met in Nevada who said that she has, quote,
built her career on infrastructure and fed her family on infrastructure.
Americans like Jeff Byrd, a line design technician I met with in New Hampshire.
He attaches fiber to utility poles to keep up with the demand for high-speed internet.
Or Leslie Kilgore, an engineer I met with in North Carolina, whose team is building electric
school buses. Or Walter Cody, a construction inspector with whom I met, who is working to get clean water to families in California.
This will be a nationwide effort,
the likes of which we have not seen in a generation.
It will make our country more competitive
and it will deliver on our nation's
and our administration's commitment to equity.
Now, this bill, as significant as it is, as historic as it is, is part one of two.
To lower costs and cut taxes for working families, to tackle the climate crisis at its core,
Congress must also pass the Build Back Better Act.
The work of building a more perfect union did not end with the railroad or the interstate. And it will not end now.
So on this historic day, let us all continue to believe in our people, believe in our country,
and believe in what we can do when we work together. Thank you all.
May God bless you, and may God bless America.
Well, for all the people out there who have been reading these non-ethnical stories attacking Vice President Harris, saying, oh, she's disappeared, there you go.
Let me speak to that for a second, and I'm going to go to Melanie. I'm going to go
to my panel as well, because I need everybody to understand what is going on here. We are not even
at year one in the administration of Biden and Harris. And already there have been stories in
the Los Angeles Times, in Politico, numerous stories in Politico. Now this CNN story over the weekend, how there's this
massive dysfunction and how the White House is tired of Vice President Harris and her staff,
and her staff was not trusting of the White House. Here's what should be happening.
Ron Klain, who is the chief of staff to President Biden, needs to squash this.
This is where the chief of staff calls his folks together
and say, cut the bullshit.
The last thing that needs to be happening right now
are all of these stories that are circulating
that are attacking the vice president.
You see the poll numbers, 28% that people are saying,
oh my God, lowest ever.
And now you see the Washington Post,
they're touting Pete Buttigieg.
You're talking about a cabinet member who is far down the totem pole.
And folks are saying, oh, maybe they should replace Harris with him in 2024.
If the people who are in the White House and the people who used to work for Kamala Harris
can't shut their damn mouths, well, then you know what?
Y'all are going to make it real easy for Republicans to win in 2024.
And for every single person who's in the White House who keeps talking about,
oh, what's going to happen in 2024, you need to be focusing on 2022
before you start focusing on 2024.
And I said this here, and then you had this idiot Glenn Greenwald,
who pretty much is nothing but, you know, if you want to see him talking,
all you got to do is just watch Tucker Carlson with his nonsense.
He actually took exception to a tweet that I sent out today. His exception was that if you want to see what's happening with the Democratic Party.
So what happened was Michael Harriot actually had tweeted something out saying that,
you know, you're going to see potentially the Democrats trying to replace Harris with Buttigieg.
And I actually responded to that particular tweet.
Let me find it right now, because I just want to show you what's going on here and see.
You need to understand what's happening here. If people did not somehow see Vice President Harris as a threat, you would not have
the constant attacks on her. And that's exactly what you're seeing. It's constant, one after the
other, one after the other. They're portraying her as being a doofus, somebody who's clueless, someone who doesn't know what's going on, all of that.
Okay?
So, you know, those are the things that you are seeing that actually takes place.
And the reason this really is important is because clearly there are people who are afraid of her for some reason.
Remember all the attacks that took place when she was running for office?
Remember how it was when the troll farms were specifically castigating her, tearing her apart, ripping her to shreds?
Y'all do remember that taking place.
So now all of a sudden you have more of this.
Now, all of a sudden it's, oh, she's not up for the job.
And then the one that really keeps just got me just hilarious.
I mean, laughing is, oh, my goodness, she's disappeared.
How has she disappeared when she's literally been involved in numerous meetings?
President Biden is talking about the role that she played
in the Build Back Better plan dealing with Congress.
She just got back from France, a very successful trip.
Here's a tweet right here.
So Michael Heredit tweeted,
they finna leapfrog Pete Buttigieg over Kamala Harris.
Watch.
I responded, if the Democrats want to see a black female revolt,
go ahead and try this.
You're guaranteed to lose. So this idiot Glenn Greenwald goes Democratic Party politics in two tweets.
Well, actually, it's right, Glenn. Because see, I'm telling y'all right now, and this is for all
the folks in the White House and the folks who used to work for Vice President Harris who keep running their mouths. The last group y'all want to piss off are black women. There is no group that is
more aligned with the Democratic Party than black women. Nobody. Not black men, not white women,
not white men, not Latino men, not Latino women, not Asian, not Asian men, women, Native Americans, folks who are Jews, Christians.
I can go down every single group.
There is no group that is more in line with the Democratic Party than black women.
But if y'all try to sabotage the first black female vice president,
that's not going to bode well for systems.
Now, you got people out there who say,
oh, well, black folks don't really like Kamala Harris.
People hate Kamala Harris.
All right, go ahead, mess around, see what happens.
Because your margin for error right now ain't that great.
And I'm telling you right now,
play this game.
If you're going to wake up and see what happens,
because see, here's the deal.
It don't take 30% of black women for you to lose walking away.
It don't take 20.
It doesn't take 10.
It doesn't take five.
If the Democrats lose just 3% of black women by trying to screw with
Vice President Harris, y'all DOA. So go ahead and play the game if you want to.
Melody, I want to bring you in because, again, as somebody who's been around politics,
you see these stories. Of course, you're the convener of the Black Women's Roundtable.
And it's like every two months, it's another story.
Dysfunction.
Oh, my goodness.
She's lost.
She's disappearing.
We don't know what's going on.
I follow the White House Twitter feed.
I follow hers.
I see photos. I see hers. I see photos.
I see videos.
I see all sorts of things.
I see actions she's taking.
But here's the other deal.
It ain't like I saw Joe Biden all over the side when he gave speeches or even speaking before him.
I've seen more of that under Biden with Harris than I saw with Obama and Biden.
What do you take of these constant attacks trying to portray Vice President Harris as being utterly clueless?
Roland, I'm going to say everything you said in these last few minutes, ditto, ditto, ditto.
Now, when it comes to how some in the media are attacking her, that's one of the reasons.
One of the people who I was with today was Joe Taker
with Win With Black Women. That's why
we got together around
Win With Black Women when they were attacking
not just
now Vice President Harris, but
all the black women who were up for
consideration for
Vice President just last
year.
And understanding how women
are attacked. But
trust and believe, black women are paying
attention and are going to push back.
And we've got to push back in a systemic way
as well, Roland, because at the end of the day
we have to go have conversations
with some of these media folks
conglomerates.
What is going on, really, with these attacks.
Now, at the end of the day, we can support and challenge at the same time. We want this
administration to do more. That's why we are here to continue to fight for voting rights.
We're continuously fighting for Build Back Better and other policy priorities. And we will continue
to do that. But also, we know when the game is not even the word fair is strong enough, but when there
is an attack, the attack on her and the way that it's going, it's an attack on Black women.
It's an attack on us owning our power.
And so, I tell sisters what they're doing with us, trying to do to Vice President Harris,
is an attack on Black women asserting our power, not just for ourselves, but
for our communities. So it's also
up to us to push back on
what we're seeing with some of these
things that are going on with the media. The attacks,
the words, words matter.
Right? And you hear enough.
Remember what they did to Hillary Clinton
over time. And so people
look up and they don't even, our own people
will be the ones
parroting some of this stuff
and not being able to understand
that they're being manipulated.
And I'm glad you brought up
the Hillary Clinton point
because I need people to understand
when a media
narrative gets established
and it gets
set in stone,
it is very hard to shake loose of that. That dogged Hillary Clinton in both of her presidential runs, when she was U.S. Senator, when she
was Secretary of State, and was always there. And there seems to be a very clear game plan here. Again, here we are, we're 10 months in and already we've
seen four or five major stories. She comes off of this huge trip to France and then folks
like, oh, it barely caused the ripple. Well, here's the question, mainstream media. Did you cover it? Did you cover it?
So don't say, well, it barely caused a ripple if you didn't even cover it.
Roland, I tell you, and we all have to fight back against this narrative.
I, as a black woman, and you said it, I've been in this a long time, and I've seen it. And what of the commentary was off the mark. And again,
unfair is not even the word. It is a systemic attack, and we have to push back on that.
At the same time, this is one president at a time. She's not the president of the United States. She
is the vice president of the United States. So she is also there as a partner on this administration. And so
whether her numbers are a little bit
lower than his, now they're all low right
now because they've got to get more done.
That's just the reality.
And so... Well, absolutely.
And so, again, I just
want our
viewers and listeners to understand
what is at play here.
These stories are being dropped for a reason.
And again, this is where the White House, Dan, the tweet sent out last night affirming their support.
No, this is where the White House chief of staff calls the staff together and say, shut the hell up.
Focus on the work.
You do not form a circular firing squad against our own.
And that's what Ron Klain needs to do.
Yeah, and they have to do what they do on the inside,
and we have to also put the pressure from the outside.
Yep, Melanie Campbell, we so appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
I'm going to go take a break right now, I'm gonna come back
and we'll talk about this with my panel.
And one of the things that I wanna talk about
is that the White House,
in terms of the vice president's staff,
they need to have her far more aggressively
talking to Black media.
I will unpack and explain when we come back.
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all right folks welcome back let's continue our conversation uh in terms of all of these different attack ads and these stories attacking Vice President Kamala Harris.
Here's something that also has to happen,
and I've made this perfectly clear
to this White House as well.
How in the world you have Vice President Kamala Harris
and she does not have a regular presence with black media?
Now, let me explain that folks.
One, you always shore up your base,
and that is you're communicating with your base.
What this White House should be doing,
they should ensure that she is the lead person
who is talking to black radio, to black TV.
What I mean by that is,
you take the nationally syndicated radio shows.
Look, I spent, what, 11 years, 13 years
with Tom and Joan of Mornings show.
Every
three months, Vice President
Harris should be on
Steve Harvey show,
Ricky Smiley show, Doug
Parr show, Joe Madison,
Erica Campbell show,
should be on D.L.
Hughley show, or should be on D.L. Hughley's show,
or should be on these nationally syndicated radio.
Now, I get the strategy of having her on local radio stations in these markets,
but black people should be hearing from her on a regular basis.
Now, y'all remember, I said this after she became the United States Senator in the 2016 election.
I said that she and Senator Cory Booker should have been doing this here.
I said one of the reasons why they were not as well-known among African-Americans across the country
is because they didn't do this when they were in the United States Senate.
Obama wasn't going to speak everywhere, but you should do that.
Now, let me take you all back to something, because you all may not realize this.
The day before he was inaugurated,
President Obama was on the Tom Jordan Morning Show.
I was at Ben's Chili Bowl.
We were live there, and I remember the conversation.
Y'all realize that Obama did not come back
on the Tom Jordan Morning Show until 18 months later?
Yeah.
He had done an interview with Brian Williams
For NBC
On the anniversary of Hurricane Katrina
And I sent an email to Valerie Jarrett
Saying how in the hell
Has he been president
In all of 2009
And here we are
Into September 2010
And he has yet to come back on the Tom Jones
Morning Show
I said when y'all gonna come home
Y'all this actually happened So let me further unpack this 2010 and he is yet to come back on the time to a morning show. I said we all don't come home
Y'all this actually happened. Okay, so let me further unpack this. Okay, I need you to understand cuz y'all realize what happened here I said we've had Michael Steele on
Tom Jonah more
Do the Obama presidency in Obama?
Y'all think I'm lying go back and so the so the next week, he was on Tom Joyner.
Then, indeed, Steve, Joe Madison.
But go back and listen, if you can, to pull that interview he did with Tom Joyner,
where he apologized for not coming back.
See, always come home and talk to your base,
because if you don't keep your base informed
then you're going to have a bigger problem
than everybody else. The thing here
on the Congo and to Eugene
and Tammy is people have to understand
this is politics
and if you don't lock down
your base and keep them informed
you're not going to have
folk there to have your back when you need them.
That part.
I think it's really sad.
I mean, you know, I hear you talking about it every week,
and then every time you say it,
I start to go and look at all of the other shows you mentioned,
and no presence whatsoever.
And I'm thinking about the people like Simone Sanders
and Cameron Jean-Pierre who are involved with her,
and how this message is not getting across.
It's very problematic because we haven't seen Harris or Biden since the campaign.
And you have to. And there's also an ecosphere out there where some aspects of black media or people who are involved in black media.
I'm thinking of shows like The Breakfast Club and the like, are, you know, putting out other stories. I'm not saying
they're doing it intentionally, but, you know, they ask questions that can make some of their
listeners doubt what's going to happen as it relates to Vice President Harris and some of
their policies and the like. And she should be showing up in all of these areas. Like I said before, Sean Hannity has former President Trump on speed dial.
President Trump, when he was president, he was running for office.
You know this, Roland.
He was calling local AM stations, terrestrial radio, giving these guys a platform.
Why is this administration not doing this? At the end of
the day, you see that many Black people I'm speaking to and listening to, they're starting
to get a little bit turned off with the administration, particularly over things
relating to these voting rights. And slowly but surely, if they don't take advantage of the great
opportunity that they have with Black media platforms, people are going to start to think
that they are not fully interested in us.
Because when I hear her on other stations
and local interviews,
I don't really feel like she's talking to me.
But when she comes here
and when she comes to these other platforms,
I know that there's a message for me.
And going in, look, 2022 and 2024
is the Democrats to lose.
They can lose this.
They got to get strict with the messaging
and they got to, like you said,
come back home to black outlets
because we are where it's at
and we are going to magnify their message.
But if we don't know, we can't show.
Now, Tammy, I need people to understand here.
I'm not sitting here,
man, why is she not coming on my show?
I am speaking of a
broader messaging
strategy that has to be
consistent. And so here you
have this $1.2 trillion
bill that's being passed.
Who should be the person
that the White House is sending
to communicate
this to black America.
It should not be mayors.
It should not be CBC members.
In fact, I got an email today.
Let me see if I can pull it up.
I got an email today.
And I understand, again, I understand messaging.
But this is what, let me see if I can pull it up.
We were offered a series of names to talk about, to do interviews today.
And I totally get it because the bill was being signed today.
Okay.
And this is it right here.
They offered up
St. Louis Mayor Tashara Jones,
Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms of Atlanta,
Mark Morial,
CEO of National Urban League and former
Mayor of New Orleans, Ron Busby,
President of the U.S. Black Chambers, Inc.,
Dr. Barbara Williams Skinner, President of the National
Black Courage Network. Totally get that.
I agree with this. What I am saying, now of the National Black Courage Network. Totally get that. I agree with this.
What I am saying, now that the bill is being signed, there should be a clearly defined
black media strategy, a Latino media strategy, alongside your mainstream media strategy so your stakeholders are getting the information directly
from someone who is high up in the administration
and why not make it the vice president?
Absolutely, Roland.
And there's so much to unpack.
I don't want to like go too deep,
but as a black woman attorney as well, you know,
we talked about with Melanie, you know, the attacks that she's going through right now
in the in-house fighting between the president and the vice president's camp. But like in real
life, like I'm kind of happy that it's happening because what it's doing is it's showing the world.
It's highlighting what happens to most black women in any profession, where no matter how
much we accomplish, no matter how many credentials we have, no matter what we do, we are still
ignored. As you stated, she just came back from France, and there's barely any coverage on that.
But then people want to cover the inner turmoil in the White House between her camp and the president's camp and, you know,
her former staff talking. Like, why highlight the drama? Because Black women are typically seen as
being, you know, angry and dramatic and all of that. So to that, you know, I think that your
point of her having more opportunity to speak to underrepresented groups,
black people, brown people, to be the voice, to be on these types of platforms, to deliver the message,
where she can kind of address that,
not necessarily like hitting the nail on its head
and putting a flashlight on the bias that we already know exists, right,
as a black woman in her place,
but she can make points to where the base,
as you stated, understands what is so important so they can continue to vote so that we can win
2022 and 2024 while simultaneously addressing the inherent bias that she's continuing to face.
And yes, while a lot of Black women feel a certain kind of way about this vice president, at the end of the day, like you said, one thing about Black women
that are Democrats, we play that game like the GOP, where we're going to stick together now.
We're going to put our strategy together and put our feelings aside in order to see the party win
and move forward strongly so that we can turn these red districts blue and
turn these red states blue because that's the end goal. The end goal is to reform so that we can
finally have some type of equal playing ground. But as you stated, she's going to have to speak
up. And whenever she speaks up, she needs some media training because you don't be giving what
it's supposed to have gave when she talks. They're not feeling it. Well, the thing here,
Eugene, again, when you hear, oh my
God, she's in hiding. First of all, that's not true. But
there should be a media strategy. Look, you use the
vice president for a lot of stuff the president can't do.
Media is a part of it.
Now, she went on The View.
Wasn't her fault.
They screwed up with the testing and it was a false positive and that's destroyed the
whole show, whatever.
But there should be a serious media strategy.
And when I'm laying out, it's one that should be consistent.
That way she's out there, she's talking these things things up and people are hearing from her on a regular basis.
This is not about protecting her.
It's about actually having a consistent message that people are getting.
So you're not sitting here having these yahoos in Virginia go, oh, I really want somebody who's going to focus on education.
You know, and our kids and COVID.
And that's what the White House has been doing. And it was more than Trump folks did.
But they voted for Youngkin over the Democrat.
Look, it's a couple of things to unpack here. Right.
I think first and foremost, the advisers that are in the president's orbit that are calling the shots here,
because that's what this comes down to a lot of times is this is folk that are deputy Ron Klain, right, that are calling a lot of these shots, that are creating a
lot of this friction and tension, that are, you know, at least creating a perception that
the vice president's missing in action.
The first thing that needs to be understood is that, you know, the portfolio the vice
president has is one that the president gives her.
The flexibility to do what she needs and do what she wants and do what she has to all comes
from the authority of the president, right?
So that's the first thing that needs to be
established. Next is this, right?
This White House better
get it together. You know, because
what they're coming across is that, hey,
this White House staff doesn't care about Black
people. You know,
at this point in time, you can't have
an asset as valuable as Kamala
Harris, you know, somebody that has a two-term
H.E., United States Senator,
elected statewide, now the first African
American Vice President of the United States,
as your prime asset,
and you don't properly deploy her
and empower her to do what's necessary
to win, right? So that's
what's coming across here. And it's the same mistake that the Obama
administration made. You know,
the legacy of Barack
Obama's team, you know,
largely at one time, a white team, white
advisors surrounding the first black
president and disengaging from
black America is that, hey,
in the 2010 midterms, yeah, the house
flipped, but you know what happened before that?
Chris Christie got elected to Deep Blue
New Jersey, and then what happened after that?
You lost 1,000 seats at the state and local level, you know,
because black voters either decided to cross over at some margin or stayed home.
You know, and that became, that's part of the legacy of the Obama era,
of disengaging from the black community.
So if the Biden administration wants to repeat that and have in the asset of Kamala Harris,
I can go into any district, any state, make any argument, one of the brightest legal minds this country has ever seen, that's the mistake they're going to make.
But, you know, they should be spending much less time figuring out what's going to happen in 2024, especially if they decide they want to place her with the white guy.
They need to be focused on what happened in 2022, a la getting
voting rights done, a la getting the George Floyd
Justice Act done, a la getting
another economic package
done, if they're serious about
even being able to do anything beyond
2022.
You know, on the Congo, I get a perfect
example that,
again, I don't understand what the hell this White
House is doing.
There's a black woman who is the head of the White House Council of Economic Advisors.
Her name is Dr. Cecilia Rouse. Now, if y'all watch Rolling Mark Unfiltered,
y'all seen her on this show. Last week, I sent an email to the White House. No, I sent an email to her.
I said, hey, love to have you on. Boom. Got it done. Recorded the interview. We had it on the show.
No issues. Yesterday, I see this clip and one of the other White House economic advisors was on Jake Tapper's show. First thing I said is, why y'all not putting a sister out
who is the head of the White House Council on economic
advisors? Let me give y'all another thing that y'all don't realize.
She was a member of the White House Council of Economic
Advisors under President Obama. They signed
the stimulus bill. I need y'all
to understand. This actually happened.
I kept asking the
Obama White House, send
somebody to me, black,
to talk about the stimulus bill.
They eventually sent me
some brother who was like
Deputy Secretary of HUD.
I was like,
what?
Y'all,
straight up true story.
We were at Congressional
Black Caucus Foundation ALC
Phoenix Awards dinner.
And I'm talking to my man, my golf buddy,
former mayor of Dallas, then the
trade ambassador under Obama,
Ron Kirk. Ron says,
Roland, man, you got to meet this bad sister,
Cecilia Rouse. I said, who is she? He said, she's one of Obama's White House Council of Economic
Advisers. I said, say what? He said, yeah. He said, man, you got to meet her. We walk over. We meet. I said, hold up. You been in the White House
all this time?
All this time?
I ain't seen
you on TV nowhere.
I gotta have you on my show.
She was like, love to come on.
Y'all, had her
on the show.
I want y'all to Google
Cecilia Rouse.
C-E-C-I-L-I-A.
R-O-U-S-E.
What you will discover
during the Obama administration,
she did my TV one show more
than any other show.
I was like, why y'all not
putting this brilliant woman out?
Here we have been having
economic conversations,
a 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill.
These discussions about inflation,
discussions about the supply chain.
I don't understand why the White House
is not putting this brilliant black woman out
and all of a sudden, if you're watching,
if you're black,
you're like, yo, damn.
She is the head
of the White House Council
of Economic Advisors.
You can't tell me
she's afraid to do TV
when she's done my show
numerous times.
This is what I'm talking about,
Omicongo.
Like, what the hell
are they thinking
over at the White House?
I don't think they are thinking. You know what, actually, let me rephrase that. I think that
similar to what we've talked about with Youngkin and education, there's this idea of like appealing
to like, you know, white suburban moms and so on and so forth. I feel like the Biden administration
still acts as if they have to appeal to a white suburban demographic,
even though white people haven't voted majority for a Democratic candidate since the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Act of the 60s.
And they keep playing to that audience.
So that explains exactly what we're talking about as it relates to CNN. And look, we have to understand that when you have sisters like that, when you have sisters like Vice President Kamala Harris,
there's another group that we need to talk about here right now.
Black men, right? Black men
came out in large numbers during the last election.
We know not in the same numbers as black
women, but fairly high.
And I think that brothers also need to see
people like Ralph sitting
down
with you
and Joe Madison and the likes
so they can start to see how y'all interact with her
and understand that she's cool and she's down.
Because we know that once these Republicans
and the Fox networks of the world
start to get hold of these stories about dysfunction
in the White House between Harrison and Biden,
they are going to start to amplify it and amplify it and amplify it,
that messaging that you're talking about, and start feeding these stories.
And you're going to have some brothers out there who might see that and start to be like,
well, dang, maybe she ain't really about it, right?
And so if they don't take advantage of this messaging, again, 2022, 2024 is there to lose.
Isn't the brother who runs the—isn't the person who runs the EPA a brother as well?
The Biden administration needs to stop being timid
about putting black faces out there.
Like you absolutely said, he does a great job
of putting Vice President Harris out there
in terms of speaking before he speaks and the like,
but they need to come home to our networks
so we can see them on a regular basis
and decide for ourselves what they're about.
Because if not, there are too many other narratives,
like you said with Hillary Clinton,
that are already forming
that are going to be used to work against
her. I'm trying to tell
y'all. All right, I gotta go to
a break. We come back. I'm gonna talk with the attorney of a young
black kid.
What, these white kids wore KKK costumes
for Halloween
and nobody did nothing?
Really?
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On Friday, I shared with you a story about a black teen in Woodsboro, Texas,
who claims he was shot with a stun gun by a group of his white classmates
dressed up as KKK members for Halloween.
Well, what's really going on with this story?
Matthew Manning is the teen's attorney.
He helps with Corpus Christi, Texas.
He joins us right now.
Matthew, glad to have you on the show.
So what happened here?
Was this at school?
Was this in the neighborhood?
And these were white teens wearing KKK costumes?
Yeah, let me clarify, Roland, and let me first say I'm really honored to be here with you this evening, brother.
But basically, this was a group of students who targeted my client on Halloween night who were dressed in KKK outfits.
It was a group of people that some had KKK outfits on and others didn't.
And it was a group of Hispanic and white teens. But he was tased by one of them after they
accosted him. And we're here talking about it because as unfathomable as it is, it nonetheless
happened in 2021. So when I was made aware of the case by one of my other clients, I immediately
went to social media, started investigating it as
much as I can as a non-law enforcement officer. And citizens came out and gave me information,
and we were able to break the story open and really make sure that law enforcement looked
at this the way they should. So, okay. So where did this take place? Was it in a neighborhood?
Was it at a party? What was the actual setting?
Sure. So it took place in a neighborhood on a residential street, which I visited yesterday,
as a matter of fact. And what happened is it occurred during the course of trick-or-treating.
So I know you're a Texan. I know you know the term one horse town. Woodsboro is a very,
very, very small town. You can literally see across the city. And kids were out trick-or-treating,
my client being one of them, out with a group of friends. And this group was out menacing
a number of students that all went to various schools there in Woodsboro and looked for my
client, found him, and tased him. It's that simple. It occurred out on the street in a
residential neighborhood. Okay. Are there photos and video of these kids wearing KKK Halloween costumes?
Yeah, they're actually both. I've viewed the video, and it's really important to say,
Roland, that the video corroborates 100% what my client both told law enforcement
and what he told me. And as you can imagine, this is a video that was disseminated
and immediately deleted by the person who recorded it. So, you know, law enforcement had to do a little bit to find it.
But once they found it, I was able to view it.
And it does, in fact, corroborate my client's account.
This neighborhood, is it a mixed neighborhood?
Is it a predominantly white neighborhood?
What's the racial makeup of this neighborhood?
So the racial makeup is predominantly white and Hispanic.
There's a very small percentage of black citizens there.
Very small, what, less than five, less than three, two percent?
I couldn't give you the number, but I would be surprised if it were over five percent.
It's very small. It tracks Corpus Christi, which is about six percent black citizens.
So somewhere thereabouts.
OK, so these kids' parents, where the hell were they?
I don't know. And what's interesting about it is a number of citizens, primarily white citizens, saw it and were outraged and immediately called the police.
And that's been really the seminal question is how on earth do kids go out trick-or-treating dressed as Klansmen and not be noticed by their own parents?
Which begs the question, of course, is this the kind of thing you're learning at home? Because it doesn't seem like you would do that
unless you felt you had license to do that,
particularly in such a small, insular community.
Okay, so did they attempt to hit him with a stun gun?
Was he actually shocked?
How long did this last?
Yeah, he was actually shocked.
So the entire encounter, what I saw,
was a little bit over a minute,
at least the recorded portion, and he saw was a little bit over a minute, at least the
recorded portion, and he was shocked during the course of that encounter. And are y'all pursuing
charges against these kids for assault, and have they actually been charged? So they haven't been
charged yet. Law enforcement is still working the case, but that's exactly what I was doing last
week with the prosecutor. I'm a prior prosecutor myself, and I sat down with the prosecutor
and delineated to him every single charge I thought was supported here.
And what's really important for people to know is that, in my opinion, having tried hundreds of
cases, this is about as textbook as it gets to the charges that I think should come forward,
which are not only an assault charge, but also what's called engaging in organized criminal activity,
which is essentially a charge that you put on defendants
that have colluded together to conspire to commit a crime.
So it's a statute that basically codifies
the law of parties here in Texas and says,
if you combine with other people and you go commit a crime,
not only are you guilty of the underlying crime,
but you're guilty of a higher level of punishment, the same way you are here when you're guilty of a hate crime, not only are you guilty of the underlying crime, but you're guilty of a higher level of punishment the same way you are here when you're guilty of a hate crime, which is what this
would constitute under Texas law. Wow. It's an absolutely outlandish story. And again, last point,
what was the actual date when this happened? So this happened on Halloween night.
So here we are more than two weeks later and they
still haven't been charged. They have not been charged yet. You know, and the worst part, Roland,
is I know you had a little graphic there. The school had the audacity, the school that they
all attend, had the audacity to put out a statement that said they couldn't discipline the students
because this occurred off campus. Well, unfortunately for them, I'm a lawyer that actually does my job. And I looked at their school code of conduct,
and it specifically prescribes that they can not only suspend, but they can actually expel
for conduct that happens off campus. So really, the school's immediate response was the one that
infuriated me because it evinced really just a desire to not do anything.
Law enforcement taking a little longer doesn't surprise me as much
because they want to do the thorough investigation,
and we want them to do as thorough an investigation as possible.
Wow. That is certainly incredible there, what took place there.
Matthew, we appreciate it.
Thank you so very much for joining us and explaining what took place.
Thank you, Roland. Have a good night. All right. Thanks a bunch.
You know, this is the kind of stuff, you know, it's amazing when I look at all of these folks out here.
Eugene, who are all up in arms over critical race theory, ain't been taught when not not at all.
Not at all mad today because the book, the 1619 Project came out.
Now they all up in arms.
But it's amazing how all those folks ain't said a damn thing about stories like this.
And look, they won't.
They won't say a damn thing about stories like this because it doesn't fit their narrative.
It doesn't rattle their base.
And it actually forced them to see the point hey, racism still exists in this country.
But, look, you know, I'm of the belief that, you know, if let's switch out KKK outfits for a Muslim guard and, you know, let's switch out a stun gun with a different device.
Those kids have been charged with terrorism.
And I think that's what happened here.
This is a terrorist attack, a terrorist event, and these kids need to be hit with terrorist charges.
You know, you don't throw on no KKK outfit and then go and attack somebody with a deadly weapon,
which a stun gun is.
We've seen it time and time again when police deploy against people.
So, yes, in my eyes, what occurred here is a white rage terrorist incident.
And again, Tammy, it's just we're just operating in this world where people keep saying, oh, y'all just too touchy about these things.
Who the hell lets their kids wear KKK uniforms?
And you know what? Let's call it those parents.
That part, that part, you know, and, you know, I'm's call out those parents. That part.
That part.
I'm here in Texas as well,
and I heard about this,
and that was the first thing that I thought.
Where are the parents?
And apparently it was not just
the one individual
that was stunned.
These people in these KKK costumes
allegedly were terrorizing at least five other students that also attended that school.
But if we're looking at charges against the individuals that attended the high school and stung the black boy, we also need to be looking at charges against the parents.
Only makes sense.
Only makes sense, Omicongo.
Absolutely. And look, let's be real. I believe that these students also played in a football game or something a couple of days later.
Yep. And so I'm glad the attorney brought up having. Right.
So I'm glad the attorney brought up having read the school policy because schools absolutely.
I work in public private and
charter schools across this country schools absolutely hold students accountable for off
campus behavior and so between their parents doing nothing the school's doing nothing two weeks after
the fact and student and the police are dragging their feet these kids right now are living a
scott free life right now and look if they didn't even say anything when they tased his brother, the fact that they're walking around with Klan outfits,
we're already in hate crime area right now. And so this is really tragic. I'm glad this has been
promoted to a national level because we may need to go down there and give some more action to make
some things happen. But it seems like at every juncture, people are already starting to drop the ball
to protect these boys when a young man was literally tased.
We're not just talking about chance of, you know,
N-word or this or that, which would be bad enough.
Physically assaulted, nothing happening to date.
This is ridiculous.
Absolutely.
All right, folks, hold tight one second.
We'll come back.
We'll talk the end of the Blackburn takeover
at Howard University.
The students who were protesting have signed an agreement
with Howard University administrators.
We will tell you exactly what that is
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After 30 days, the Blackburn takeover
at Howard University is now over.
Today, the students involved in the protest held a news conference
that was exclusively covered in live streaming by Blackstar Network
that detail this particular agreement.
I want to play a large portion of that news conference for you.
And remember, they were protesting housing conditions.
They were complaining about mold, rats, roaches, and other
issues at Howard University. Here is what they had to say today.
Give me a countdown. Five, four,
three, two.
Good morning. This morning, the Howard
University Blackburn protest student leadership, students, executed the remaining portion of a memorandum of understanding with the university. While the terms of the agreement are, specific terms are confidential, it can be said without
any hesitation or reservation that the students courageously journeyed on a path towards greater
university accountability and transparency and public safety and that
disagreement marks a meeting of the minds between them regarding the issues
of concern so while they will not speak specifically about what's in that
agreement I'm going to be turning it over to the three Seminole
student leaders during this protest
and ask them to give remarks.
I'm gonna start please with Aniyah Vines.
Good morning everyone.
Thank you so much for tuning in
and supporting us for the past 33 days.
October 12th was the day Howard Bison said, enough is enough.
After previous demonstrations, the Live Movement National Team, the Young Democratic Socialists
of America Howard University chapter, and Bison decided that they would not move until administration understood that our voices matter.
We were fed up, we had enough, and we were ready to make change for our beloved Howard University
by holding administration accountable by any means necessary.
We spent 33 days challenging the Howard University administration.
We spent 33 days saying that not only did our lives matter, that our voices matter, and our concerns matter. We spent 33 days affirming and fighting for the first class housing
that Reverend Jesse Jackson said we were entitled to.
We came, we saw, we declared, and we won.
We won for Howard students.
We won for Howard University, both historic Howard and the future Howard.
And we won for our community. We challenged the lack of accountability. We challenged the lack
of safety. And we challenged the lack of our ability to even say that there was a problem.
And at Beaches, everything's included. The lack of our ability to even say that there was a problem.
And at beaches, everything's included for everyone.
All right, folks, I'm going to play that back.
We had a tech issue.
OK, go ahead.
Take it from now.
And hopefully after I graduate, I can matriculate on the Howard Law.
And hopefully, we won't have the same issues because today is a new day for Bison everywhere.
Today is a new day for the Bison sitting at the table and standing around us.
Because tomorrow, the struggle continues.
But these issues, we got what we came for. We got increased groups.
All right, folks. How University issued this statement. They posted this on Twitter. You can pull it up, please. How University is pleased to announce we have come to an agreement with the
students who occupy Blackburn and will share a longer message with Dr. Wayne Frederick on this topic later today. I have not seen that particular statement.
Let me, I want to go to their Twitter page. I want to see if Wayne has released something.
Let's see here. Okay, let's see. Yes, he did issue a statement. Give me one second, folks. I'm going to pull it up.
All righty. He issued a video statement, so let's go ahead and play it.
Here is Wildest Dreams.
Good afternoon.
About a month ago,
a group of students began the occupation
of the Blackburn Building.
They did so to raise awareness
for their concerns
about housing conditions
at the university,
as well as other issues
that they voiced
to me and my administration.
I am pleased to share
with you today
that through ongoing dialogue
and a desire to hear and address their concerns, the student protesters have agreed to end the Blackburn occupation and leave the building.
I also expect non-student protesters to depart the surrounding area and to end the occupation of the campus.
This is a welcome development and a necessary conclusion to a challenging few weeks for everyone involved.
This type of protest to occupy a building and the negative effect of doing so will fail throughout campus.
Protest drives change. I accept and applaud it.
I do, however, struggle with a type of protest that jeopardizes student safety, the very thing that students said prompted their concerns.
The health and well-being of students is the most important part of my job as president.
As I have said before, even one issue in one of our residence halls is too many, and we
will continue to remain vigilant in our pledge to maintain safe and best-in-class housing.
We have so much more to accomplish together, and the future for all of Howard looks very bright.
Our Howard Forward strategic plan, which was launched in 2019,
will continue to guide our path and build upon our success
as we transform the academy, research enterprise, and financial strength of the
university to be best in class.
It's not lost on me that that must also be met with empathy.
Our 2020 Campus Master Plan speaks to our strategy to grow and invest in our beloved
Hilltop, which will continue to improve the campus experiences for our students, faculty,
and staff.
The progress can only be achieved by coming together
as one Howard, one Bison.
As we close in on the Thanksgiving holiday,
I'm encouraged and excited about the work we have accomplished
and the work we will continue to do together
to reinforce our beloved Howard University.
We look forward to working collaboratively
to address concerns and build a culture where all are heard.
I will continue to open lines of communication and will hold my traditional State of the University address next semester,
which has always included an open dialogue with the audience.
Building an institution we can all be proud of requires work every day.
Folks, that was Wayne Frederick, the president of Howard University.
This had gone on for quite some time, OmaKongo, and I mean, obviously, it was constantly being
with the social media, national media, a lot of focus was placed on Howard University.
And both sides wanted to bring this to a conclusion.
And really, it was the alumni gathering.
There were alumni who came to Howard on Saturday,
including Newark Mayor Roz Baraka,
who played a critical role in brokering this deal.
Yeah, it is great to see.
And at the same time, it's just sad, Roland,
because you should have never come to this.
I remember when you did the story a few weeks ago and you were there and you went inside.
And I remember as an undergrad here in D.C., I wasn't a Howard student, but would go there often.
And it was just sad to see. And I want to commend these young women leaders who stood strong in front of the university and brought this to national attention. And now that we are here, we just hope that everybody can just get better
and stronger from this experience because we're talking about our babies here
and they should never have had to be put in a position where they were not safe.
I'm glad that the university did respond as it did,
but Howard University has had so much great news over the last few months
with Felicia Rashad, the Tassif Building,
and just the list of Ta-Nehisi Coates, the list goes on and on. But it seems like during this
whole process that the students were neglected, and I'm glad that the students reminded the world
that they come first. So kudos to them and the alumni who stood up for them.
Tammy, this was Newark Mayor Roz Baraka on Saturday.
This is what Chuck Mody posted on his Twitter feed.
I love Howard.
Howard is responsible for everything that, you know, I've been able to do in my life.
Besides my mother and father, you know, they deserve all the credit and Howard University.
I'm just going to say that.
And protesting was a part of my education at Howard University.
Your protesting is a part of my education at Howard University. Your
protesting is a part of your education at Howard University. It is a part of it.
It's not, I don't think we're gonna have a time when people are not going to
protest. I think it's a part of your coming of age at this university. Your
ability to see the world as it is, and once
you begin to understand the world and understand yourself in it, you automatically begin to
figure out that it is your duty and your responsibility to change it, and that you can't live in it
the way it already exists, and it has to change, right?
That becomes your responsibility.
So protesting is a part of that.
So I don't want
you to feel like you're doing anything wrong because you're not. What you're doing is in the
tradition of thousands of people that came before you, even the people we named the builders after
also protested in many different ways. So I just want you to be clear on that and not be shamed
by people who want you to be embarrassed
by the fact that you are standing up
for what you think is right.
And I want you to believe that this
is against Howard's tradition.
No, it is in Howard's tradition that you do this.
Tammy, Mayor Rosbaraka played a crucial role
in going between the students and the administration
and brokering this deal.
And what you're seeing is not just at Howard University, other students.
We talked about Tuskegee, how the students were sick and tired of the conditions with the ban.
Tuskegee responded, replaced the band director, and made other changes.
Students are making it clear they're spending money on tuition, and they want to use their voices.
It's amazing, Roland, the fact that these young leaders are using their voices and speaking up,
speaking out about the conditions they're facing and demanding change.
I am so proud of the students of Howard.
You know, before moving back to Texas, I was a senior attorney at DOJ in Washington, D.C. for 10 years, and so many of my friends attended Howard.
My mentees attended Howard.
So to see what those students were able to accomplish and to see their alumni rally around them to help bring this to national media attention so they could get the change they deserve is amazing. It's also amazing that other students at other HBCUs are following suit and using their voices
to speak up and protest so that they can have the change that they need.
It's so incredibly inspiring to see this younger generation just being very courageous.
Eugene?
Look, that video was hard to watch, right?
I mean, that video made Travis Scott's video look like golden PR.
This comes down to being really simple.
The students want a PR font, so now the university actually has to take actual action.
The words fall on deaf ears when you come in and you say, oh, the health and safety
of the students matter.
And, you know, we care about how they protest and protest in a way that doesn't, you know, put in jeopardy health and safety of people.
Well, they would be protesting if, you know, these problems weren't persistent problems.
They aren't new problems, but they're persistent problems.
And so, you know, at this point in time, I'm glad there's a resolution.
I'm glad there's a settlement. I'm glad that there's an understanding. But, you know, at this point in time, I'm glad there's a resolution. I'm glad there's a settlement.
I'm glad that there's an understanding.
But, you know, it's time for action.
And if, you know, this president and this board can't take proper action or, you know, they're going to take negligent action, then they'll all be resigned and tossed out.
You know, you can't protect the quote-unquote greatness and legacy of an institution if its current day leaders are literally tarnishing that institution.
Because at the end of the day, these universities will not exist without the students.
No, students are paying tuition.
Well, I'll tell you, and also the folks who were over the housing,
as well as other areas, they also have been under intense pressure as well.
And so we'll see what happens next.
Got to go to break. We come back.
What happened today in the case of three white men on trial for killing Ahmaud Arbery,
their white defense attorney continues to antagonize and piss off black preachers.
We'll discuss that next on Roller Button Unfiltered on the Black Star Network.
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Oh, the white attorney
for the three white men
on trial for killing
Ahmaud Arbery.
He continues to white.
That's what he's doing.
Today, he actually,
y'all, they tried to actually
get the judge to declare
a mistrial.
Not because something the prosecution was doing.
Not
some jury misconduct.
Because Reverend Jesse Jackson
Sr. was
sitting in the courtroom.
Watch this mess.
We need to move from this trial.
I move from this trial.
Based on?
Based on the presence of people in the courtroom and the public gallery.
I have to stop for a moment.
We have a witness now on the stand.
If you go ahead and sit down.
Thank you.
And I do actually very much appreciate the court helping me maintain a record on this. We formally move for a mistrial under the fifth, sixth, and fourteenth amendments of
the U.S. Constitution, which parallel provisions of the Constitution of the state of Georgia.
We contend that the atmosphere of the trial, both inside and outside the courtroom at this
point, has deprived Mr. Bryan of his right to a fair trial.
I understand that co-counsel vehemently disagree on some aspects of that motion, and if they don't want to join, that's their business.
But I represent Mr. Bryan, and my concern, Your Honor, notwithstanding what, in my observation,
would be extraordinary efforts on the part of the court to avoid anything that would interfere
with the right of these defendants to a fair trial. At the same time, in extraordinary cases
like this, additional steps have to be taken. We have not secured the front of this courthouse.
The Transformative Justice Coalition still flies their banner virtually every day outside
in what should be protected grounds. Your Honor, we have had numerous instances during jury, several instances during jury
selection of nonverbal communications between the victim's family and jurors, or from juror
to the victim's family.
We've had several emotional outbursts during the trial of this case, notwithstanding the
substantial efforts of the court to ensure that they don't take place. And we have
had civil rights icons sitting in here. And what the civil rights community contends is a
quote unquote test case for civil rights in the United States. Eyeballing these jurors,
including one today with his mask down, which the court doesn't want to make part of the record. Under Supreme Court, I rephrase that.
I didn't make part of the record.
I rephrase.
You made it part of the record.
Well, until the court acknowledges it, it's not part of the record.
Keep going, Mr. Coyle.
Your Honor, the case law out there in mob cases and other cases demonstrates all the ways that presence in a gallery can
influence jurors in a case. And I certainly don't mean to suggest that Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson
or any other pastor belonged to a mob, but at the same time, we are talking about organized behavior
by whoever outside the courthouse leading up to this case.
We have all these community leaders fearful that the city is going to burn down.
This isn't a mob case.
If you testify against a gangster, they might burn your house down.
They might burn your business down.
They're not going to burn your whole city down.
And that is the concern that I believe jurors have expressed during the voir dire process
in that a county commissioner, a mayor, a
school board member, a bunch of pastors in this community, both black and white, have
been talking about.
So in that context, we believe the totality of the circumstances, which is what this court
looks at under Shepard v. Maxwell, under the totality of circumstances, this trial has
been sufficiently effective, notwithstanding
the best efforts of the court, to the point where Mr. Bryan's ability to receive a fair
trial has become an open question.
We think that line's been crossed.
The court may see it differently, but we've made that for purposes of the record.
All right.
It's in this court's discretion with regard to any outburst in the courtroom. I'm taking into consideration as well as the defendant's motion for a mistrial.
So I'm psyched to a couple cases.
Let's see, Forney, I think it's Forney v. State, 255 Georgia, 316,
which actually recognizes that emotions are neither unreasonable nor unexpected during a murder trial.
And the demonstrations and outbursts which occurred during the course of the trial are matters within the court's discretion to evaluate.
The court heard exactly what I described on the record, decided to remove the jury briefly, and it was ready to get started.
Based on that outburst, the court is not granting a misdraft.
As to the totality of the circumstances argument, which I think is the second argument that
was presented by Mr. Goff, that gets back to what I'm starting to watch very carefully
as far as what's going on in this courtroom with the jury, as well as the arguments that
are being made by counsel.
I'll point out that a number of times during jury selection,
it was raised that jurors were being influenced by individuals outside the court.
And I think it was either four or five jurors were asked specifically
whether or not they were influenced in some way by what was going on outside the courtroom.
And they were not.
There was no, actually, if I remember correctly, they didn't even recognize or see what was going on outside the courtroom.
And as counsel are aware, because I have brief counsel, there are steps being taken by the court during the jury trial to ensure that jurors are not influenced by anything happening around the courthouse.
So then we start getting into what we have now with individual members or individuals
coming into the courtroom.
I will say that is directly in response, Mr. Goff, to statements you made, which I find
reprehensible.
The Colonel Sanders statement you made last week, I would suggest may be something that
has influenced what is going on here.
In response to that, and to his credit, Mr. Sheffield made some comments, but did say,
come one, come all.
And so now the court is faced with balancing a lot of things going on outside this courtroom
and doing it in a way that respects members of the public's right to be in the courtroom
as well as what I'm trying to put out there as a fair trial.
So you need to understand, everybody, that your words in this courtroom have an impact
on a lot of what's going on.
And so my measured response at this point is to balance all of that out and try to move forward
with the trial. I'm not granting a mistrial at this point based on these arguments that are being
made because I think I'm not granting a mistrial at this point based on the arguments that have been made.
So the white attorney caused the whole uproar.
He's not complaining about the uproar.
Jung is now one of the attorneys for the Arbery family, Lee Merritt Lee.
This is beyond laughable to listen to this man.
And he made some other comments where, well, Reverend Jackson, he doesn't, you know,
why does the Auburn family need him praying with them?
They've got local pastors who can pray with him.
And then for him to drop in here, oh, people are afraid they're going to burn
the town down. It's going to be riot.
This white
attorney is throwing out
every racist
thought,
every racist thing he can
think of in order to get
these racists off
for killing Ahmaud Arbery.
That's exactly it.
On the one hand, they're arguing that Wanda should be strong enough
to sort of deal with seeing the grisly details of her son's murder by herself
without making any outbursts because a part of the motion to dismiss
the trial or a motion for a mistrial today
included the fact that she let out a slight whimper when a picture of Ahmaud was introduced into evidence.
And so while she's dealing with this very difficult thing, they're saying that she not only does she have to deal with it quietly,
she should also have to deal with it alone and without the support of our full community.
It's just,
it used to be cute.
It's the only cute,
this person that's harassing a grieving mother during the murder trial of her son.
Well, and the thing
that's just crazy to me is, well,
you know,
why can't she get a local pastor
to pray with her? Why does she
need Reverend...
Okay. He was
eyeballing a juror.
Eyeballing a juror. Nonverbal
communications being the leg. Okay. So the jury
walks in.
If the jury walks in that way,
is Reverend supposed to do this here? Turn
away and don't look at the jury?
And if
you really look at the breakdown of the courtroom,
there are three roles reserved for the three defendants in their family.
Wanda's role is in the very back of the courtroom.
So she occupies the last role with Marcus Arbery, Ahmad's dad.
And they each get one person to come in the courtroom with them.
Typically, it's one of the attorneys in the case
so that we gather all the evidence for the federal suit. And then there's a pastor who's helping them with
the grieving process. But in front of them is the mother of the men who murdered her son,
is the wives, the children. And then directly in front of them is, of course, the defense table
with Travis McMichael, Gregory McMichael, Roddy Bryan sitting there,
the men who actually murdered her son,
just feet away from her.
And she's supposed to deal with all of this
with no support and no noise.
Well, I don't know what his attorney thinks,
but guess what?
He's about to see a whole bunch of black preachers
and black people on Thursday at 11 a.m.
We are going to be in Brunswick, Georgia, as well, live streaming that news conference.
They're expecting a minimum of 100 black preachers.
I'm hearing it could be as high as two or three hundred who show up in Brunswick, Georgia, as a major show of force.
And so if this if this judge wanted to see some black preachers,
he's about to get his wish.
And Roland, I have to.
I've been speaking to Al about that.
There are 200 confirmed pastors coming so far,
and we expect that number to grow.
We just want to emphasize,
as people come to the city of Brunswick,
we encourage you to come stand with this family.
Just know this is a solemn gathering.
The media will be asking a lot of questions, and they're going to be looking for sound
bites that appear to intimidate the jury.
So we're asking everyone as they come to know that we're coming to grieve together with
the family of Ahmaud Arbery.
We're not really there to engage the media.
And to the extent that we do, our message is the same.
We're here as a show of support. We have every right to support and stand with a grieving family and a community during one of the most important trials of the century.
Well, we will certainly be there without cameras as well. Lee Merritt, we sure appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you. It really is incredible to listen to that white attorney, Tammy,
make those comments and specifically signaling out black preachers, black preachers.
There are white preachers. There are Jewish rabbis who have been standing with this family,
but no, no, no. Black preachersers don't want the black preachers in court.
You know what, Roland?
You are absolutely correct.
And this is the same attorney who earlier in the trial he was talking about during jury selection.
He mentioned how there were not enough pretty much uneducated white men on the jury because the jury needed to represent a cross
section of the defendant's peers. And he alluded to some of the arguments that, you know, black
people make whenever, you know, we have been faced with all white juries and having these very
egregious types of trials against us. And he's trying to flip it, so to speak, to cater his narrative for his white defendant.
And he's the attorney, the one that we saw the clip of, that's the attorney for Roddy.
And just so everyone understands and remembers, Roddy is the one who reported the very gruesome murder of Mr. Arbery by Travis McMichael and
Gregory McMichael.
That's the father and the son.
But this is ridiculous.
And the attorney should be feeling very embarrassed because I believe that the judge's response
to this motion for mistrial was extremely proper. The judge has been coming
across as fair and impartial and really has been trying to make sure that the trial is focused on
both sides being able to present evidence and the jury being able to absorb that evidence and deliberate and come back
with a verdict without any distractions. And I think this lawyer here, based off of the judge's
response, the lawyer himself is the distraction at this point. Oh, absolutely. And in fact,
Eugene, I'm a Congo. I just want to play for you again, even more insulting comments
that Kevin and Goh said as Reverend Jackson sat in the courtroom.
Listen to this.
The issue that Ray brought up previously is how many pastors does the Arbery family have?
We had the Reverend Al Sharpton here earlier last week, and I'm not keeping track.
And I think the court has indicated the court doesn't intend to ask anyone to keep track of who was in the gallery.
But I don't know who Mr. Jackson, Reverend Jackson, is pastoring here.
My understanding is, and I was given names, that the Arbery family have local pastors.
They also have attorneys.
Mr. Arbery, Marcus, has a team of lawyers to comfort him through these proceedings.
Certainly, Ms. Cooper has been amply comforted by her legal counsel.
And we are concerned about whether it's conscious or unconscious,
the impact of their presence with respect to the jury and with respect to the proceedings in this case.
And I guess the next question is, which pastor is next?
Is Raphael Warnock going to be the next person appearing this afternoon?
We don't know.
Your Honor, I would submit with all respect to Reverend Jesse Jackson
that this is no different than bringing in police officers or uniformed prison guards in a small town
where a young black man has been accused of assaulting a law enforcement officer or corrections officer.
As I have noted before, the city of Brunswick is indeed a fishbowl.
Your Honor, I understand that the court, maybe I misunderstood the court the other day,
but I think the court had indicated it was the court's understanding or assumption
that the Arbery family is giving up seats in the public gallery so that these gentlemen may be present.
With all due respect, Your Honor, the seats in the public gallery of a courtroom
are not like courtside seats at a Lakers game.
There are no First Amendment rights in the public gallery of a courtroom.
There is no standing of any particular individual to be present in the public gallery of a courtroom.
And there is no reason for these prominent icons in the civil rights movement to be here.
This is a case that has been postured in...
So, here was a trip to me. I'm a Congo.
He's whining and complaining.
Did you see the white woman who was in front of Reverend Jackson?
Now, you heard Lee Merritt say that the other roles were reserved for other family members.
That white woman's like,
what the hell is this fool doing?
You heard the judge also say
your other counsel, they disagree with you.
The other guy's like, man,
if you don't sit your ass down,
you about to make this thing worse
for us.
It was sad, man.
You know, first of all all on a good note you know i gotta give props it just kind
of connects to your last segment quite honestly because to see the young people protesting and
to see our elders and reverend jackson just shows that you know we're in a really good space of
where we're going and where we've been so i wanted to give a shout out as it relates to that.
But I feel like this lawyer, sort of like with the Rittenhouse judge, I feel like these
guys are angling to be like their next Fox show contributor right now in terms of what
they're doing.
But I am a little bit concerned, Roland, that his antics are really going to influence this
jury.
You know, he said to go to what Tammy was saying earlier,
we need more bubba's, you know, on the jury.
And I feel like what he's doing might be successful.
And that's the part that kind of scares me,
because this judge is not being assertive enough
in shutting him down.
Well, here's the deal.
He's making the arguments outside the presence of the jury.
But what he's also doing with the constant interrupting
Eugene does have an impact as
well. He wants to disrupt the flow
of the trial. And
look, and what's going to happen on
Thursday, you're going to have a show of force
and he's going to be able to say, see, see,
look at all these preachers here. Well,
you open that
can of worms, deal
with it.
Look, you mess around, I'll find find out and that's what's gonna happen here um look the thing is this this defense attorney has pretty much let us know that he's
a racist above racist above racist right and for what it's worth, he's running the conservative talk radio playbook, demonize Jesse Jackson, demonize Al Sharpton, even brought in Raphael Warnock.
I think, look, the next person to probably come comfort this family at the court case should be Senator Warnock.
So the thing is this.
I think this judge is proper in denying a mistrial.
There's been nothing here to warrant a mistrial.
If anything, it's been the defense's antics and tactics of trying to break the flow of the trial,
trying to break the flow of information being delivered to the jurors.
And so, look, I'm looking forward to seeing the 200- plus pastors show up in force. And let's see what this racist
defense attorney that has shown up to college every day in this courtroom has to say about that.
Indeed. All right, folks, real quick before I go to a break, the latest in the Kyle Rittenhouse
case, the judge in that case has dropped the misdemeanor gun charge against Kyle Rittenhouse.
George Bruce Schroeder dismissed one of the seven counts after defense
argued Rittenhouse's AR-15
was longer than the illegal
length of 16 inches, thus
making it legal for the team to
have a gun in Wisconsin. In closing
arguments today, the defense says the victim
deserved to be killed because of his actions,
but the prosecution argued that Rittenhouse
was not acting in self-defense
when he committed the crimes.
It has also instructed you on provocation.
You cannot hide behind self-defense if you provoked the incident.
If you created the danger, you forfeit the right to self-defense.
By bringing that gun, aiming it at people, threatening people's lives,
the defendant provoked everything. And if he does that, he has to exhaust all reasonable means
to avoid a confrontation. All reasonable means. So if Joseph Rosenbaum is running at him, Joseph Rosenbaum is no threat to his life.
And not only is the defendant expected to run, he's expected to yell, push, shove that rag doll
around, run back for help, call 911, call for help, do all sorts of other things besides just
turn and fire four shots. Kyle shot Joseph Rosenbaum to stop a threat to his person.
And I'm glad he shot him because if Joseph Rosenbaum had got that gun, I don't for a
minute believe he wouldn't have used it against somebody else.
He was irrational and crazy.
Rittenhouse killed two men and gravely injured another during anti-racism protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin on August 25, 2020.
We'll keep you updated as the jury begins deliberations.
A federal court has rejected the appeal for Oklahoma inmate Julius Jones and three other death row inmates set to face execution in the next few months. Jones is scheduled to die on this week, this Thursday,
unless Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt rules to grant clemency in his particular case.
The Oklahoma inmate has received recommendations from the Oklahoma Parole
Board for clemency and commutation not once but twice.
However, Stitt has not said a word on the case.
All right, folks, got to go to a break.
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Former U.S. Congressman as well as U.S. Senate candidate Beto O'Rourke,
he says he is ready to challenge Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott in the race next year.
He made the announcement official today.
I'm running for governor, and I want to tell you why.
This past February, when the electricity grid failed and millions of our fellow Texans were without power,
which meant that the lights wouldn't turn on, the heat wouldn't run,
and pretty soon their pipes froze and the water stopped flowing,
they were abandoned by those who were elected to serve and look out for them. It's a symptom of a much larger
problem that we have in Texas right now. Those in positions of public trust have stopped listening
to, serving, and paying attention to and trusting the people of Texas. And so they're not focused on
the things that we really want them to do, like making sure that we have a functioning electricity grid, or that we're creating the
best jobs in America right here in Texas, or that we have world-class schools, or that we make
progress on the things that most of us actually agree on, like expanding Medicaid or legalizing
marijuana. Instead, they're focusing on the kind of extremist policies around abortion or permitless carry
or even in our schools that really only divide us and keep us apart and stop us from working
together on the truly big things that we want to achieve for one another.
It's a really small vision for such a big state, but it doesn't have to be that way.
And I know that together we can get back to being big again.
Because I saw that in February when the electricity grid failed and those in power failed all of us.
It was the people of Texas who were willing to put their differences behind them and get to work doing the job at hand, which meant helping our fellow Texans get through that crisis.
We did this out of a sense of duty and responsibility to one another.
Now imagine if the governor of Texas felt that same way. Well, there's something that you and I
can do about that. I want you to be part of this campaign. And whether that begins today with a
campaign contribution or signing up for a volunteer shift or just committing yourself to talking with
your friends and family about how important this
election is, I want you on the team and I want to win this with you and for you and for all the
people of Texas. I'm looking forward to seeing you out there on the campaign trail. Thank you.
Well, Tammy, Greg Abbott is facing challenges in his own party. A lot of people have been very
unhappy with him in the state when it comes
to the pandemic response, but also
not allowing folks to invoke
their own mask mandates. And so
we know Beto can raise a whole lot
of money. The question is, can he rally
Texas Democrats and put them over
the hump to beat Greg Abbott? Your thoughts.
You know,
as a fellow Texan,
Roland, you know, we all felt Beto O'Rourke's impact whenever he we can actually see some wins and a success of having him beat Greg Abbott.
Because a lot of Texans, including Republicans, have been, as you mentioned, very disappointed with the way Greg Abbott handled not only the winter storm in February, which paralyzed the state of Texas. I don't think
that people truly understand how bad it was, how cold it was, and how many days we were without
power. And that impacted not only Democrats, but also Republicans. And we saw a lot of bipartisan
efforts being made. But I think that because the Republicans were unhappy with Greg
Abbott's response and they are no longer really liking this very extreme divisiveness from the
Trump era, they kind of want to distance themselves from that. And he still is kind of reminiscent to
that. I think that there's going to be a lot of support. And as long as the Texas
Democrats rally around and get it together, we can turn Texas blue. Bottom line here, Eugene,
it's about raising lots of money, being able to rally the base. He came within 2.5 points of
beating Ted Cruz. He's got his work cut out for him. But again, he has the advantage of having
a lot of people who want to see him win and
the ability to raise lots of money.
Look, he'll be able to raise money.
He'll be able to organize people.
He has a message.
The question is, can he grab enough voters to cross over to win the election?
You know, the fun stuff of hard right red meat issues are fun, but it don't matter if my house is cold in the dead of
winter because of incompetency or that I don't have flowing water coming in because of incompetency.
You know, when my basic needs are affected by somebody that is incompetent or provides
incompetent leadership or decides to skip off to Cancun during the middle of a crisis,
you know, I don't care about any of the other fun stuff
when my survival's at stake.
And I think that, you know, the one smart thing
Baylor's already done is lead off with the issue
of, you know, what happened during a winter storm last year
when the utilities essentially shut off,
not because somebody didn't pay their bill,
but because the government failed their people.
And, look, the thing here on the Congo,
that's how you go after them. And you say
you fail. And then they tried to pass
on the cost to fix the problem
to the taxpayers. Yeah.
Abbott, look, you keep hitting
that, that could resonate with voters.
Absolutely.
That was a very Biden-esque
message from Beto, because we know
that people are going to try to paint him as an extreme with his past comments about guns and so on and so forth.
And look, one of the things he has going for him is these infrastructure bills.
People, he's going to be able to talk about this is what's happening.
I'm going to help continue these programs that you're starting to see come to our state. And I believe that if he continues on this kind of moderate style path, and as long as we protect the voting rights of the people of Texas and across the country,
he has a chance of winning that next election.
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Fit the win. Talk about working out for your mental health.
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All right, folks, many people work out
because they want to improve their physical health,
improve their body, but how does it impact your mental health?
My man Dooley out of Atlanta joins us right now.
Dooley, how you doing?
All right, I think you're on mute.
Are you on mute?
Talk.
Talk, Dooley.
Yes.
Dooley, can you hear me?
Yeah, how you doing, Roland?
I can hear you, man.
There you go.
There you go.
You could help us by taking that awful hat off.
That's another story.
Oh, man.
Come on, man, Roland.
It's my week, brother.
It's my week.
But what's that?
My whole week.
What do you mean your whole week?
Come on, man.
Obviously, you know.
I don't.
Obviously, you know what this week is.
I don't. It's the greatest fraternities in the world, Founders Day, and that's why I got this hat on, man. Obviously, you know. I don't. Obviously, you know what this week is. I don't.
It's the greatest fraternities in the world, Founders Day,
and that's why I got this hat on for a moment.
Oh, I think you're greatly confused.
I thought you said it's the week.
I mean, it is a great week, considering my birthday was yesterday.
So that's probably why I say great week.
But trust me, it is not because of that youth group that you belong to.
All right.
Yeah, that junior fraternity.
All right.
So let's talk about this here, the idea of working out for your mental health.
How so?
Well, you think about it, man.
We're talking about working out and improving the mood.
We're talking about blood circulation.
We're talking about all things flowing properly.
That's why I said working out, and you know this to be
true. Like I said, as you get older
and as we start and stop being able to
produce and do certain things, you've got
to find yourself, man, to get that body flowing, get
some circulation. Like I think, everybody waking
up stiff and sore and all that.
That's why working out, keeping that body moving
is so important, brother.
Look, I know some people who I mean, they say, look, it allows them to step away.
It allows them to free their mind up by working out.
Some do it by walking, by being able to walk outdoors.
Because also the stress levels that happen with us also impact.
People have depression.
People are, they have anxiety.
And so I know many who say working out matters.
Yeah, and you think about it.
You look at, like, the rates now.
I'm sure that number has quadrupled since the pandemic.
And that's why I was telling people when we was confined to the house for so long,
and you look at it like, you used to pull some numbers.
I had some earlier, too.
I should have brought them.
But, like, that number is almost quite true when we start thinking about anxiety and depression.
So the number one way to free that up is, like you just said, man, getting active, working out,
getting outside, keeping that body moving.
It absolutely does matter.
Eugene, you were doing that for a while, beating back your diabetes.
Was it important for your mental health?
Absolutely, absolutely.
You know, it was extremely important for my mental health.
You know, without it, probably we'd have to sit here and go back and forth with you a couple years later.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Question.
Tammy, I'm a Congo.
What you got for Dooley?
Well, you know, as someone who has a degree in exercise science from the University of Houston,
I agree with everything that you're saying.
Hold on.
You got a degree.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on, girl.
How many jobs you got?
You got a degree in exercise science.
You a part attorney.
You ran for Congress. How many jobs you got? Shorty. science. You a public attorney. You ran for Congress.
How many jobs you got?
Sure did.
That girl's credentials is long.
My credentials are a CVS receipt.
Theirs is a business card.
She's done a lot of stuff.
Oh, my God.
Oh, Lord.
That's H-Town.
Hold it down.
That's that H-Town.
You know what I'm saying?
I came from the squat.
Exercise science?
Exercise science from the University of Houston.
Sure did.
I was a personal trainer before I went to chiropractic school.
Sure did.
But I only did that for one year.
You only did it for one year.
What happened?
They drove you crazy?
Absolutely.
Listen, I can...
I was like, you know what?
This is a lot of memorizing.
Let me go to law school.
Yep, yep.
All right, all right.
What's your question or statement for Dooley?
Go ahead.
Dooley. So what types of exercises do you recommend for us busy professionals?
That's why you got you have to find something online. But like I said, you're not going to have time to get up in the gym.
You very rarely have time to leave the office. So you thought about you find some online.
You can literally sit at your desk with your stapler, your phone, your water bottle, and get a complete workout in.
You just got to find something to stimulate your brain.
Like I said, you're sitting there.
You're doing the same things.
You got to find something, man, to challenge you.
Like I said, physically, I literally can draw a workout up.
Keep going, bro.
Let's keep going.
And then go out to the side now.
You give me 100 of those.
After that, 99 of them, you're going to be feeling it.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Hold up.
I got a bottle of water from hand going to be feeling it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got a bottle of water and some hand sanitizer.
Just go out there.
Give me a wide shot, Anthony.
Yeah.
Use the hand sanitizer and use some water.
I love it.
I love it.
That's all you need.
Hey, matter of fact, bro, just hold it.
Just hold it. Just hold it. Just love it. That's all you need. Hey, matter of fact, bro, just hold it. Just hold it.
Just hold it.
Just hold it. Black power.
Amen.
Oh, Macongo, what you got?
So,
what would you say, Dooley, first of all,
just awesome at everything that you're doing, what would you suggest for
some dietary changes for people who are
just getting into working out?
What are some of the things they should be looking at
either dropping or consuming less of on their journey?
And like we were talking earlier,
I always tell people, we do a blood type base.
You gotta do what works for you.
Like I can sit up here and tell you what works for me,
I'm O positive blood type.
But you need to dig more into what's flowing
through your body, that's what we're made of, our blood types. So you need to eat based off your blood type. You need to diet based off positive blood type. But you need to dig more into what's flowing through your body. That's what we're made of, our blood types.
So you need to eat based off your blood type.
You need to die based off your blood type.
You need to find out what things you're about to reject
and things you're about to retain.
And that's how you determine what you should and shouldn't be eating.
I never tell people to eat or drink what I eat or drink.
Because what I eat or drink ain't going to make you shit,
like I always tell people.
But I always tell people, let's eat based off what you got going on in your life what you got going on with your blood type and let's base it
off that all right then so again folks uh your mental health is important uh and so please uh
if you're going to exercise don't do it just for physical also do it for you to be able to get out
and keep it straight uh all right dulyley, where can people reach you? At Effect Fitness on Instagram, at Effect Fitness on Facebook. And if you get a
chance, man, go download our app, Effect On Demand. Best app we got. Best thing smoking.
So last question for you. Okay, so what in the hell I do if I'm using my water bottle to work out,
but then I finish drinking it? Now you need another water bottle.
I mean, do I do pinky raises?
Yeah, keep going.
Just keep going.
All right, Dooley, I appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
All right, man.
All right, Tammy, Eugene, Macongo, I appreciate it.
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I always had to be so good no one could ignore me. Carve my path with data and drive.
But some people only see who I am on paper. The paper ceiling. The limitations from degree
screens to stereotypes that are holding back over 70 million stars. Workers skilled through
alternative routes rather than a bachelor's degree.
It's time for skills to speak for themselves.
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