#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Hurricane Ian, Justice Jackson's 1st SCOTUS Debut, White NC Sheriff Black Rant, HBCU Pilot Pipeline
Episode Date: October 1, 20229.30.2022 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Hurricane Ian, Justice Jackson's 1st SCOTUS Debut, White NC Sheriff Black Rant, HBCU Pilot Pipeline The first black woman on the U.S. Supreme Court, Ketanji Brown Ja...ckson, has her Investiture ceremony, taking the Judicial Oath. Hurricane Ian is barreling through South Carolina and is likely the largest natural disaster in Florida's history. We'll talk to the Department of Homeland Security Center for Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships director about what the government is doing to assist the millions affected by this storm. A black man walking dogs in a park is suing the U.S. Park Service for a wrongful arrest. A North Carolina Sheriff resigns today after audio of him describing black employees as "bastards." And a Michigan Republican running for state representative asks a black family why they're wearing face masks during a pandemic while Democrats are [pushing the killing of Black babies by supporting abortion rights. Yeah, we'll show you how he describes the encounter. I'll talk to the sister running for Florida Congressional 26th District. That's one of the districts the Republicans restructured. And in today's Education Matters, an HBCU wants to be the pilot pipeline for U.S. airlines. Support RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered Venmo ☛https://venmo.com/rmunfiltered Zelle ☛ roland@rolandsmartin.com Annual or monthly recurring #BringTheFunk Fan Club membership via paypal ☛ https://rolandsmartin.com/rmu-paypal/ Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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As South Carolina braces for Hurricane Ion,
millions in Florida are picking up the pieces from the damage left in its path.
Officials say Ion is likely the largest natural disaster in Florida history. President Joe Biden has already approved a major disaster declaration,
allowing survivors in the hardest hit areas to apply for federal disaster assistance to help jumpstart the recovery.
Folks, it is widespread damage.
We've seen photos of yachts looking like
toothpicks that have been emptied out of a bottle. Damage all over the place. We also have seen
through social media, and we'll show you in a second, some of the damage, well, hard hit by HBCU
Bethune-Cookman. Folks, again, significant, significant damage as a result of this hurricane. Joining us now is
Marcus Coleman, the director of the Department of Homeland Security Center for Faith-Based and
Neighborhood Partnerships. Marcus, glad to have you here. Again, this is one of those moments
where, you know, look, Republicans can talk about small government. People can say, hey,
we don't want the federal government's help. But guess what? When a natural disaster strikes,
that's when you want the federal government's help, but guess what? When a natural disaster strikes, that's when you want the federal government's help.
What is already being driven, being shifted to Florida
to help those impacted?
Well, thank you for having me tonight, Roland.
And yes, you're right.
It takes all of government to work together.
And we have been, FEMA has actually been in Florida
pre-landfall.
So we had staff and commodities pre-positioned. The president declared an emergency declaration long before the storm made landfall. And we have people on the ground today, including FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell, who is assessing damage directly on the ground here in our National Response Coordination Center. We're coordinated with organizations like the NAACP,
the National Urban League.
We actually had a group called the Institute for Disasters
for Inclusion and Equity in Emergency Management
to ensure that we are keeping people first
as we move into this next phase of unfortunately,
a really long road to recovery.
As I said, when these things happen,
I don't care who you are, you are affected.
This is a video here from someone on Twitter showing the damage at HBCU Bethune-Cookman.
And you see there, you know, structural damage there, a lot of damage there.
Bethune-Cookman is a private school.
So they're not a public institution. So when it comes to being able to, for assistance,
just give me an idea of what can a Bethune-Cookman
seek from the federal government when it comes to rebuilding?
So we're gonna be working alongside our White House
HBCU initiative to ensure that Bethune-Cookman
and any other institution of higher education
knows what resources are available federally.
We've done similar outreach for Jackson State University for the recent Jackson Water Crisis,
was in contact with a group called the HBCU Emergency Management Workforce Consortium,
all focused on how we support the students, the faculty, and of course the facilities
and that historic presence there.
And so one of the efforts that we have at FEMA is to come alongside institutions like Bethune-Cookman and ensure, again,
their students, those faculty, those staff, those people that keep the university running
get the assistance they need, while we also work to make sure that we maintain those institutions
moving forward through some of our government programs. Obviously, there are people who are
displaced. We've seen videos of people swimming in their homes where they had several feet of water in their homes. And so
when it comes to short-term living assistance, what options are there and what must folks be
seeking out? So we know a number of folks are going to local shelters that are opened by
the Red Cross. Also,
we know many churches and faith-based organizations are also opening temporary
shelters. People are moving to live with friends and family for a temporary time.
There's three things that I want to encourage any survivor, any family member that knows someone
that's impacted to do. The first, continue to stay connected to the local government officials and their guidance. The second, you can register for disaster assistance now. 1-800-621-3362 is the phone
number to get you started on that process of your road to recovery. We know we're going to be here
for a long time. I was able to actually spend some time with several faith-based and community-based
organizations in Florida earlier this year.
And at that meeting, we were talking about some of the disbursements that they were giving financially from Hurricane Irma.
So we know, again, folks are going to be recovering for long periods of time, and we want to make sure that we're doing everything we can to keep the people first from a federal government perspective
as we continue to move through this next phase of recovery.
We're talking about how significant the damage is in Florida. This is video right here of the
storm surge in Charleston, South Carolina, and how they're impacted, right? We are here in
Washington, D.C. The weather forecast shows massive amounts of rain that will hit Washington,
D.C. and New York City between now and Wednesday. So even though Florida has taken the brunt of this
as somebody who's lived through numerous hurricanes being born and raised in Houston,
the aftermath of the hurricane can still cause considerable damage when it comes to rain,
when it comes to flooding, when it comes to high winds ripping roofs off. And so people's lives
can still be in danger, even though the hurricane may actually diminish some.
You're absolutely right. And it's one of the reasons why at FEMA we are trying to work through
the broader coalition of partners that we have. Again, I mentioned some, the NAACP National Urban
League. I was on a call last night with several bishops of the African Methodist Episcopal Church. I was on a call this morning with the bishop from the Full Gospel Baptist Church.
We recognize that across faith and community leaders in that coalition, we do need to make
sure that people are prepared. To your point, right, we're coming up on the anniversary of
Hurricane Sandy. And so it's one of the reasons why, in addition to making sure that we're focused
on equity in response and recovery, we want to continue to be culturally competent in how we talk about preparedness as well for communities.
And so we are providing that guidance.
People can access that information on how to prepare at ready.gov.
But, again, if you have anybody that's on the line that's listening and can hear my voice,
that's looking to get jump-started on their road to recovery. 1-800-621-3362.
That's the number to call to start the process
to get some of the federal resources
that you need for your household and your family.
All right, Marcus Coleman with the Department of Homeland Security.
We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you very much, Roland.
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We're going to talk about the politics
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Whole bunch of Republicans in Florida like Ron DeSantis voted
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More than welcoming that money coming to Florida.
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Let's start right here with you, Michael.
I'm just getting a kick out of these hypocritical, pathetic Republicans,
especially like Florida Governor Ron Sanders.
This is the man who, while he was in Congress,
voted against hurricane aid to the folks in New Jersey for Hurricane Sandy.
Oh, but he is more than welcoming of hurricane aid to Florida.
Sounds like Rand Paul.
When he was constantly, always complaining
about hurricane aid, disaster aid going to other states,
yet when Kentucky got hit by natural disasters,
oh my God, Mr. President, please.
They love to sit here and say,
Democrats, you're spending
money recklessly. Oh, but
when their states get
hit, then all of a sudden
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Absolutely. It's coming for you.
And this is the chickens coming home to roost for Governor Ron DeSantis.
And as I've said before, Florida needs to be desanitized.
So back in 2013, when he was in the House of Representatives, he was part of the Tea Party.
He voted against aid for New York and New Jersey behind Hurricane Sandy, OK?
And he said that it was more that tax and spend, put it on the credit card mentality,
that he came to Washington to stop, but also little Marco, little Marco Rubio.
In 2013 also, when little Marco Rubio was in the Senate in Florida, he voted against the aid for
New York and New Jersey as well. Now, Ron DeSantis was on a Tuckums show, Little Tuckum's, Tucker Carlson on Fox News. And he said, when a disaster hits, it's time to put aside the politics and do what's right for the people. I'm paraphrasing.
OK, this is what he said. But that's not what he did in 2013. OK, so what we're seeing now,
this goes back to something that Governor Cuomo said before he was forced out of office during the coronavirus
pandemic. And he talked about how the blue states or the states that lean Democratic,
they contribute more on average to the national pot through taxpayer dollars than the red states,
than the Republican states. Because you remember Mitch McConnell was talking about the money going to the blue states
and New York, things like this, for coronavirus.
And Cuomo said, wait a second, who's carrying who?
The Democratic states contribute more than the Republican states.
So, you know, once again, this is an example of how elections have consequences.
Luckily, we have a president in the administration that's not going to play favorites, okay, and help whoever needs aid.
But Little Marco and Ron DeSantis need to be voted out of office in the 2022 midterm elections.
And, Matt, again, I just sit here and I just laugh at these fools. In fact, one of my followers just sent me
this story here.
Matt
Gates, who really should be
going to prison
for
his involvement with underage girls.
Again,
hypocrisy. Matt Gates
just days after Hurricane
Eon ravages his home state,
this is a Newsweek article, Representative Matt
Gaetz was one of the many Republicans to vote
against a stopgap measure
that will continue funding the
government and provide billions of dollars
in extra disaster assistance.
It's like,
where y'all think the money coming from?
And they think, oh yeah, it makes me look like a big, burly, tough, fiscal conservative.
But your constituents are in desperate need of help, and the money ain't coming from Florida.
It needs to come from the federal government.
That's right. That's right, Roland. And, you know, what they do every time is they sell
it to Republicans like they're being fiscally conservative or responsible is the terminology
they like to use. And in reality, they're divesting people of funds that are specifically
intended to help them in these circumstances. So it's a matter of them not only playing
politics, but like Michael, I think, said wonderfully a moment ago, you know, DeSantis
and these cats do this every time, right? When it doesn't benefit them, they go ahead and say,
you know, we're not going to vote for that. And even when it does, in this instance,
benefit them, they find a way to politicize it and, you know, make it about themselves and their
own agenda. So it's a sad thing that the people of Florida will not get all the money that's
intended, especially extra monies, because I live in the area where Hurricane Harvey, you know, ravaged years ago, and we're
still dealing with rebuilds. I mean, still, literally just this week, I was dealing with
something related to Hurricane Harvey. So it's going to be a long, protracted road to recovery.
And the fact that he would vote against extra monies just shows that, you know, a lot of times
they're not working in our interest, even if his people need the money.
And I also wanted to say for everyone out there, I went to college with Marcus Coleman. He is a
brilliant, he's at the helm there for that community partnership with FEMA. And I trust
that, you know, they will do what it takes to make sure that people get the resources that they need,
irrespective of people like Gates standing in the way for their own agenda.
Oh, absolutely. I mean, I just sit here and sort of laugh at these folks for for how they respond in situations like this.
And it's just like, really, really? That's how the cats will sort of operate. So, you know, I get a kick out of it.
Today, we were over at CBC-ALC, the 51st annual CBC-ALC.
And for the folks who don't quite understand what works here,
you have the Congressional Black Caucus,
which is the official members, 58 members of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Then you have the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Annual Legislative Conference, which is run by the Congressional Black Caucus. Then you have the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Annual Legislative Conference,
which is run by the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation.
It kicked off on Wednesday.
If you watch the Black Star Network,
if you look at our YouTube stream,
the Black Women's Roundtable had their event,
which we live streamed on Wednesday.
Yesterday, and there are different groups,
so it's not just the CBC members.
I mean, you've got every kind of group imaginable
holding events, holding galas, luncheons, prayer breakfasts.
You name it, these things are happening.
This morning I stopped by Senator Raphael Warnock was speaking at a prayer breakfast
for menaces organized by the 100 Black Men.
It was a busy day today for me.
We kicked off this whole deal by where I led a major plenary session at the convention center dealing with the midterm elections.
We had our legal scholars who were on the panel initially, folks like Maya Wiley, the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights,
Damon Hewitt, the Laws Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.
So we had a number of people who we had. And then, of course, then we had our activists, Derek Johnson, NAACP CEO, Latasha Brown,
of course, Black Voters Matter, League of Women Voters as well.
And so a really busy day, some great, great content that was taking place.
So first, what I want to do is, if we can, I want to start with our conversation that took place with the dealing with the midterm elections.
And so, look, we're about 40 days away from the midterm elections.
And you're already seeing so much attention and energy being focused on the midterm elections, being focused on what
is necessary for us to do in this election.
And so what I want to do is I want to show you again what some members had to say, talking
about what matters in this election and how it's important for us to use our vote.
And one of those folks is Congresswoman Terri Sewell.
She, of course, was led this session.
And one of the things she talked about was that how in there in Alabama,
they should be having a second black district.
The courts agreed.
Even these Trump appointees agreed.
But Brett Kavanaugh stepped in and was like,
no, Supreme Court, you hear it. This is one of the cases they're going to be hearing in this term,
dealing with minority representation in Congress. And so she implored the audience
to really focus on this very issue. Here's what she had to say.
Also specifically, the sister who asked that question, how are you targeting younger voters
who are in Alabama who want to make change?
What is happening there?
Well, first of all, you know, these organizations are our voices on the ground and help to organize us on the ground.
And I think that until we can tell young folks, show young folks why the vote matters, why it matters, and
the messenger, the messenger matters who?
And it needs to be their fellow, you know, Gen Z-er.
You know, you really have to meet people where they are.
And you've got to be where they live and have a trusted messenger.
And so change rarely comes to the halls of Congress.
Rarely comes to the halls of Congress.
And when change does, it doesn't permeate at the very top.
It bubbles up from on the ground.
So grassroots activism matters. And you don't have to necessarily be a part of an organization to actually organize. My mom, who passed away last year, used to always say, bloom where you're planted and make a difference within the organizations
and within the communities that you live and work. Okay. So we have got to know that your vote
matters. Representation matters. Oh, let me start there. Representation matters. It was only when
you got more African-Americans seat at the table, a decision-making table, that we started seeing actively money being targeted to our communities.
Okay?
It was only when you got six senators who were women did we actually have a hearing in the armed services,
Senate armed services, on sexual harassment in the military.
It was only when you had one black woman who sat on the Senate, I mean, on the Select Committee
on Intelligence, that was me, that we actually got our national security folks, we held up
the money until they what?
Addressed the diversity.
I mean, the intelligence community and those committees, we have classified briefings and oh by the way classified budgets trillions of dollars of classified budgets so I'm sitting at that table I have before me
you know all of the the CIA the DIA and not one person looked like me not a woman
and not someone of color and so you don't want to necessarily be the one, the only black one sitting there,
and ask the diversity question, but you better.
Because the people who elected you need you to do that.
And so, Mr. CIA, we're not going to give you some money
until I start seeing some movement.
And so that's important.
So representation matters, but your voice matters.
And in this great country that we have, our voices matter.
And the best place to articulate your voice is at the polls.
Let's go to the polls, and let's go with a vengeance.
Going to have final comments.
Let's start with Heather.
I also moderated the Brain Trust
session dealing with transportation
and who was there? Transportation
Secretariat, Peter Buttigieg. And we talked about
the money.
More than $1.2 trillion
was approved by Congress
and about half of that
is going to be for infrastructure, folks.
And I want to make sure that black people are getting our fair share.
Denzel Washington played him in the movie.
His name was Frank Lucas.
And he said, I'm going to get that money.
So we're going to get right to the point of this, Secretary Buttigieg,
and talk about the money.
The federal government spends $560 billion a year on contracts.
African-Americans get 1.67% of that.
One of the fundamental issues to build capacity,
you've got to be able to access the money.
So billions have been passed.
How are you making sure that African-American businesses,
contractors, engineering firms,
architectural firms, PR firms, black-owned media are going to be participants in these
billions of dollars that were passed by Congress and it was the result of Congressional Black
Caucus votes that actually made that possible?
That's right.
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for your voice and to thank Congressman Carson, who has been a leader in my native state of
Indiana since before I was in elected office. Doesn't look old enough for it to be possible, but it is true, and it's so exciting to be here.
So the question you are raising goes to the core of what it looks like for us to succeed
with the President's bipartisan infrastructure law.
$1.2 trillion is about to move through the U.S. economy, about half of that in transportation.
And we have an affirmative obligation, a moral as well as economic obligation, is about to move through the U.S. economy, about half of that in transportation.
And we have an affirmative obligation, a moral as well as economic obligation, to make sure
that at the end of those five years there are more black-owned businesses, more black
millionaires, more black building and construction trades workers than there were five years
sooner.
We know – and Compto in particular has a lot of expertise in this, we know that transportation
spending and investment, when it's done right, can help build up ladders to opportunity.
We know that from historical examples, like Atlanta.
One of the reasons why there is a famous black middle class in Atlanta that is so strong, is that a generation earlier, when the airport was being built,
Mayor Maynard Jackson made sure that there was access and opportunities
to get in on the construction contracts that came with that.
Actually, he said there will be tumbleweeds that will roll down these runways
before I allow this to be rebuilt if black folks don't get it,
because when he became mayor, African Americans were getting.0012% of all city contracts.
And when we went to Atlanta, we met with family construction businesses
who were now in their second generation that existed because of that leadership.
So we understand the opportunity and the obligation.
What does that actually look like?
First of all, we've got to understand the barriers to black-owned business participation
that have existed and that exist today.
That's the whole idea of DBE programs.
We also know that there are some barriers to entry, or let's say gaps in user friendliness
in the program as we know it, which is why our team has been
rewriting the rules around the DBE program.
And that is actually out for comment right now.
So business owners and leaders who are here in the audience who are watching this online,
if you have not already, should make your comments known right now before we finalize
that rule.
But we know right now what some of those barriers are.
First of all, access to capital.
That's why we're partnering with SBA on things like bonding that we know can be an issue.
The personal net worth caps, which we're going to change, or we're proposing to change,
I should say, in the rule.
Because we've spoken to a lot of business owners who say, hey, I'm just about to get
what everybody's telling me I'm supposed to have done.
We're finally growing enough, and now we're too big to be small, and we're too small to
be big.
We can do something about that.
Things like whether retirement counts against that personal net worth.
Access to information.
So one of the things that we are doing through, in particular, through our OSDBU, and you're going to meet our OSDBU leader, Shelby Scales, who will be speaking in a moment, is have sessions and make information
available touching every one of the 50 states, D.C. and Puerto Rico, about what the opportunities
are actually like, because otherwise you have to already be on the inside in order to have
a shot at that.
Two more things I'll mention.
I don't want this to be long-winded, but this is a major, major priority for us.
One, there are the contracts we actually literally do ourselves, right,
federal contracts procured by our department.
We have raised, for example, our SBB goal to 20%, over 20%,
and we are beating that goal as of this quarter.
But then for every dollar we spend, there's something like $10 that actually is spent by the people that we are funding,
the state, the city, the transit agency.
So we have to make sure that they are doing the same thing, that they have ambitious goals.
And that's a conversation that we're having with our state partners that is partly a matter of having the information out there,
partly a matter of making sure that the basics of the law are met,
but recognizing that the law represents the floor.
We have to go way over and above that because shame on us if we get five years out
and there's the same level of black business participation as there is today.
All right, folks, and we also the final session that I participated in was one dealing with the state of the Supreme Court.
And that was, of course, a session organized by Congressman Hank Johnson, Representative Mondaire Jones.
And it was moderated by Simone Sanders. I was on that panel along with Ellie Mistel of the nation.
And here's some of that. Correspondent, I want to start with you.
Because I think we need a baseline for this conversation.
What is going on with this court?
And if you had to pick one thing you are most concerned about this session,
what would it be?
Oh, I can't pick one.
Well, you've got to pick one now.
You've got to pick one.
All right, well, I'll start with democracy. That seems like a good place to place to start. The court is going to hear two
major cases that will determine whether or not we have a republic this term. The one that most has
gotten most of the press is called it is a case called Moore v. Harper. Harper. This is the
independent state legislature theory. This is the theory that the state legislatures, not the voters, not the courts of the state,
but the state legislatures of the state actually get to decide the voting rules of the state,
who gets to vote in the state, whose votes count in the state, whose votes can be thrown away in the state.
This theory is so controversial that the first version of it was surfaced by William Rehnquist in Bush v. Gore
while he was casting about trying to come up with a way to make George Bush president
over a court-ordered recount in Florida. I'm gating myself a bit. But over that recount,
William Rehnquist surfaced this independent state legislature theory.
It was widely debunked at the time, except for one other justice, Clarence Thomas, who was a fan of this theory.
And so that is going to be coming up this term, whether or not the legislatures themselves can throw out votes that essentially they don't like.
The other big case is going
to happen on Tuesday. This is called Merrill, I forget, it's Midges v. Merrill, I'm forgetting
the first part of the name. Doesn't matter. This is about the Alabama gerrymandered map.
Alabama put forward a map that was, how we had one majority, minority minority two majority minority districts um it was so racially um
divisive that even the conservative alabama state court was like that's that's too racist for us
um and this is a court in alabama it goes up to the 11th circuit court of appeals a trump court
and the 11th circuit two judges picked by trump who were just like yeah no dude that's really
racist you can't do that. And
Brett Kavanaugh says, wait, wait, nope,
nope, not too racist for me.
I'm not sure what happened there.
Looks like Ellie got cut off.
But let's go right to our conversation.
We'll just cut that short.
Folks, if you missed that session, first of all,
you missed any of those three sessions,
just simply go to our Black Star Network app.
We live stream all three of those.
You can see them there as well.
Again, Michael M. Hotel, Matt Manning,
and joining me in the studio is Kelly Bethea.
There are people, Kelly, who might say,
all right, you have this CBC AOC every year,
and you've got folks who go to parties,
who go to receptions, who go to gals,
who go to award shows.
But the reality is this. When you talk about public
policy, this is
probably the
largest collection of
public policy
advocates and experts
who are providing
the kind of information
that people need to know
and understand to then
know what to focus on now as well as in the future.
I completely agree with that.
And that's honestly why I love CBC ALC Week
because to me, it's more than just a convention.
It's really like a massive think tank
where all the brightest black minds in the country
and sometimes, oftentimes the world,
come together to brainstorm how to better serve
our black communities abroad and wherever we are.
So when I was at a couple of your panels,
and I absolutely loved the discussion,
and then you have the ones where you,
if you just wanna know what's going on
in that particular arena, such as entertainment or health or anything like that, this is the perfect place for you to interact
with some of the brightest black minds in their respective fields, which is why I love CBC and ALC.
I actually don't really go to a whole lot of the galas and the social things as much because I'm
kind of a nerd and I actually am there for the sessions and the seminars.
But it is truly an experience that I feel like
everybody should do at least once,
especially now that it's in person.
Matt, there also Nicole, Hillary Austin,
Austin Hillary is now the CEO of the CBCF.
They're doing something now that I sort of called them out years ago.
Every session this time has been recorded and, I believe, live streamed.
But I definitely know they're actually being recorded every session.
This is the first year that's actually happened.
And I kept saying, what the hell is the whole point of having all of
these great advice,
great discussions for his panels?
And if you weren't
here, then you didn't know what was going on.
This is what
I'm just a huge believer in,
driving the information out. And so you take
the pound that we did on the Supreme Court.
You probably had
200,
250 people probably
in the room, maybe.
But let's just say 150 or 200.
But because we were live streaming
it, more than 1,000 were watching
at that time across the country.
More will watch
when we restream it, also over the next week,
next two weeks as well.
And this is the kind of info that we need
because too many of our folks literally are walking around
having no understanding of the ramifications
of Supreme Court decisions, public policy,
what's happening on the federal, state, and local level.
And again, they're covering a myriad of topics,
you know, ranging from hip-hop and politics, ranging to black
maternal care, to economics, you name it. And so there's value in it. I'm glad to see now
they're getting the information out to a broader audience.
I think that's incredibly important. And I think, you know, they have not only a moral duty,
but a duty as professionals to disseminate that information. And really,
it's a drum that you beat on this show every week and one that Michael is also very good at
in telling people to go to whitehouse.gov or congress.gov. A lot of times people feel like,
you know, they don't know where to find the information. And then finding information
that breaks it down in a way that they understand can be difficult. And I'm glad that you played
those three clips, because I think in each one, each one of the speakers spoke pretty directly and
pretty clearly about what the intended issue was or the intended, you know, curative approach to
it. So that's important for our people to have information. There are a lot of people who I think
are intimidated by some of the processes, especially in government. You know, Congress
has a million
rules. It's hard to always know those rules, right? So it's important that the CBC record
this information so that people can see it and harken back to it, especially when we discuss
issues on the show and when they hear them otherwise, so they can see, well, this is what
they were discussing at that panel. This is how the law is being broken down, for instance, as it
relates to that independent state legislature theory.
I mean, that's really insidious stuff, right?
So to have somebody like Ellie Mistel breaking it down for you to understand what it is at its core is important.
And I commend them for recording it so that it's there for posterity for people to review.
Information is power.
That is a phrase coined by Kathy Hughes at Radio 1, and it is
one, Michael, I agree with.
You know,
it sort of trips me out when I
hear a lot of people, man, the CBC
ain't this, they ain't that.
Anytime I hear somebody say that,
it's a good bit. They literally
have no damn clue what the hell the CBC
does.
Well, yeah, they don't read.
That's part of the problem.
I mean, if they just, if they go to thegrill.com
and read some of the fantastic articles by April Ryan,
they'll get more information and see the policies
that the CBC is pushing and have gotten past.
If they watch Roland Martin Unfiltered,
they can see you interview members
of the Congressional Black Caucus.
So when they say that, you know,
there is a...
How should I put this politely?
There is a
black
echo chamber
of,
for lack of a better word, stupidity.
And I'm not
talking about people who don't know. I'm talking I'm not talking about people who don't know.
I'm talking about people who prey on people who don't know.
You have to understand the difference.
See, there's this whole disinformation campaign
targeting African Americans,
and they use social media.
And you have social media black pimps
who put out misinformation to prey on people who mean well but don't know.
If they knew better, they would do better. So we have to understand the difference. This is why the
Black Star Media Network is so important. This is why the African History Network is so important.
I've been to the Congressional Black Caucus meeting, Congressional Black Caucus Legislative
Weekend. I attended some of the, back in about, I think it
was 2016, Roland, because I met you there in person. I attended some of the panel discussions
that you moderated as well. One of my teachers, Dr. Leonard Jeffries, was there, because every
year when they have the Congressional Black Caucus Legislative Weekend, there's a panel discussion on
reparations. So, Dr. Leonard Jeffries was there.
Dr. Wade Nobles was there. Other people like Joanne Watson from here in Detroit.
So this is extremely important. I got to meet so many people. I did some interviews while I was
there. I got to meet so many people. That is the place to really be. And it's good that they're
documenting it, recording it and documenting it to preserve it, but also to rebroadcast it so people who could
not attend could get this information. Because as I said before, and I'll wrap up with this,
this is the most critical, most important midterm election probably in over the last 100 years,
because this is the first midterm election after an insurrection has taken place since the 1866
midterm election, the year after the Civil War ended.
So we have to be armed with knowledge
and we have to understand how policies
directly impact our conditions.
Because Republicans understand this, okay?
We have largely been kept in the dark on this.
So the Congressional Black Caucus Legislative Weekend
is a very powerful, important event to attend and to be part of and to learn from as well.
Indeed. And again, folks, there's lots of information taking place and that people need to know.
And that was something that happened during the you know, I sort of made this point during our Supreme Court session that I want to talk about here.
And I get it.
I get how the public responds to celebrity.
And every year, Congressman Andre Carlson sponsors the Hip Hop and Politics session.
I know it well. I've moderated that session probably five or six times. I'm a three-year congressman, Andre Carlson, sponsor of the Hip Hop and Politics session.
I know it well.
I've moderated that session probably five or six times.
But what gets me is when I see how folk react,
when I look at, even at CBCF, the entertainment-driven
panels, and I'll see these massive crowds. Right.
And I'll go, okay, I get that, no problem.
But if you don't think these other issues
have an even more profound impact,
you're mistaken.
It's just like when I talk about on social media,
when I'm talking about how do we access
the billions of dollars that are being spent
in various industries?
And I see folk rarely want to comment on that.
But Lord, don't put something up about Nick Cannon having babies. It's amazing to me how many people, Kelly, will be so locked and loaded on stuff that
ain't got nothing to do with them.
I mean, nothing to do.
You ain't got no, you ain't got nothing in the game over the baby mamas of Nick Cannon.
Nothing. But when we're talking about
the future of the Supreme Court,
that literally impacts every facet of somebody's life,
whether they want to admit it or not.
Again, that makes complete sense,
but I also take into consideration the fact
that when it comes to entertainment,
and I'll use your example of Nick Cannon,
people understand baby mama drama.
People understand that chaos, that confusion,
because it can be applicable to their own lives.
Not saying that everybody has baby mama drama,
but everybody does have some semblance of drama.
The whole point of entertainment news
is for it to serve more or less as a distraction
from people's everyday drama,
right? Whereas when it comes to the Supreme Court and other issues politically driven,
that's a little bit harder to understand. And then what's worse, the people who are there to
explain those issues to us can come off as condescending. And we are just coming into an age where
information is not only accessible, but understandable to people. And it has to catch up
to this entertainment news, right? And we also have to embrace the fact that we are able to
understand it and make it applicable to our lives, because it is, like you said, the Supreme Court
decisions have an immediate effect on us beyond just Roe v.
Wade, beyond just gay marriage legislation. Everything that Supreme Court touches will
have an impact on everyone's lives, and it typically affects Black people the most. So
it's definitely something that we have to take into consideration. I applaud those who do
explain things politically
better than our predecessors,
because now more people are able
to come into the conversation.
But you're right, entertainment is gonna be entertainment.
Nick Cannon's drama will always be entertaining to some,
but we also need to step away from the distraction
that is entertainment and focus on what's actually gonna
affect our lives
so that we can better our lives.
I'm just,
I guess my concern, Matt,
is that this for me is the equivalent of
the house is burning,
but you on your cell phone talking to your girls or your boys about shopping or who won the game.
You might want to turn around and say,
oh damn, my house on fire.
And I am
concerned because
I don't think
a lot of people understand
the depths
at which
conservatives
are going to go
in order to
lock in them having control
for the next 100 years.
They are playing a long game that I just don't think people really and fully understand.
Yeah, I think you're 100% right.
And I think in speaking to that, not only do we have to combat disinformation,
you have to combat the mindset that some people have that everything is rigged, that none of it can be trusted,
and you can't trust the Democrats the same way you can't trust the conservatives.
There are definitely issues in each party and there are issues in every respective issue.
But this is a long game thing. You're exactly right.
I mean, for Trump to have appointed
over 200 federal judges, people don't understand that they serve forever. So that's really a long
game thing. And a lot of the issues that we're discussing, including things like letting state
legislatures decide what votes count and don't count, are things that will have generational
effects, not just immediate effects. So to use your metaphor, you know, not only are we on the phone and not paying attention
to the house, but we're not considering all the other houses that are going to burn down
the street and how long that fire is going to continue raging if we don't take the time
to really look at it now.
But with that, kind of to Kelly's point, I think it's incumbent on the firefighters,
if you will, the people who have the information to put out the fire, to explain to people not only how hot that fire is raging, but what we need to do to make sure
that that fire is suppressed as quickly as possible. And some of it is disseminating the
information, but also some of it is like, yo, I know you don't trust any part of the government,
but like this affects your life. This affects your taxes. This affects your kids' education.
This affects your health outcomes. It's holistic and it affects you irrespective of whether
you want to be involved in what's going on. In that respect, you have a duty to to be
informed. So I think there's a dual duty and a dual emphasis. But I do think that, you
know, we need to get over that idea that we can't trust any part of it because it affects us.
And that's really where the crux of it lies.
I just want, Michael, folks to understand that the other side,
they ain't playing.
No, they're not.
They ain't playing.
I'm talking about, I mean, you look at that Robey Wade decision,
Clarence Thomas was like, we're going to have this, this, this next.
They're not...
When people start signaling
to you what their
intentions is, what they're saying is
we got
the votes locked up.
We can run the table if we want to.
Right. And that's what
they're going to do.
If Republicans take back control of the
House and the Senate, I don't think they're going to do. If Republicans take back control of the House and the Senate,
I don't think they're going to. But if they do, this is, you know, we have no idea what's in
store. If Donald Trump wins in 2024, which I don't think he will, but if he does,
you go read the
stories by Axios, by Jonathan
Swan, about a second
Trump term and how they're
going to remove
a lot of the, they're going to reclassify
employees. They're going to reclassify
a lot of them and fire a lot of them
and replace them with Trump loyalists.
It sounds like something from Adolf Hitler. It sounds like something from Mussolini. It sounds
like fascism. Okay? So one of the reasons, going back a few minutes ago, you said that
Republicans want to control the courts and things like this for the next 100 years,
and people don't understand that. The years, and people don't understand that.
The reason why many people don't understand that,
especially African Americans,
because they don't understand the history
of the last 100 years,
especially the last 154 years,
going back to the end of slavery
and Civil War reconstruction,
but then the Jim Crow era,
where they rewrite the state constitutions
to do the same thing that Republicans are trying to do in state legislatures across the country,
suppress the African-American vote. They impose poll taxes, literacy tests, things like this.
They rewrote the state constitutions because in South Carolina, for instance, the majority of the
state legislature in South Carolina were made up of African-American men. They saw the changes that were taking place in this country because African-Americans
were voting, and they made a concerted effort to stop that.
So most of us don't understand this history.
So when we see it come around again, we don't understand how to stop it.
This is why I was warning people in 2015 and 2016 about Donald Trump, because he ran on
the platform of law and order.
That's a throwback to Richard Nixon, 1968.
Richard Nixon was a backlash to the civil rights movement,
the Black Power movement,
the rebellions taking place all across the country,
like in Detroit, 1967,
affirmative action, things like this.
And Donald Trump was a combination of Richard Nixon
and George Wallace, governor of Alabama.
So if you don't understand history, you don't understand when these events start rhyming.
Lastly, it's extremely important to understand the voter suppression laws, over 400 voter suppression laws being put.
19 state legislatures have passed about 34 voter suppression laws. That is heavily
being financed, and those laws are heavily being written by American Heritage Action,
American Heritage Action, I think it is, the sister company to the Heritage Foundation,
sister organization to the Heritage Foundation. They are making these boilerplate policies
that are being pushed, and they're financing this, and they're being pushed by Republican state legislatures.
It's all orchestrated, okay?
It's not by accident.
So we have to understand this and take action to fight against this and vote these people out of office.
Yep.
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That's next on The Black Table, a conversation with Dr. Gerald Horne about this issue of the reverse freedom rights right here on the Black Star Network. We'll be right back. All right, folks. Rashawn Davis took out the trash on September 24th
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should call the New York Police Department
at 718-287-3225. 718-287-3225. For the first time in 233 years of history, a black woman is sitting
on the Supreme Court. Today was the investiture ceremony for Katonji Brown Jackson. She officially
joined the Supreme Court this morning
with the ceremony with Chief
Justice John G. Roberts administering
the judicial oath.
Both President Joe Biden and Vice President
Kamala Harris attended this
historic event. Justice
Jackson will help bring some balance to
an increasingly conservative court and lose credibility
that has lost credibility with
American people on a daily basis,
and with the looming possibility of indictments of Donald Trump,
Associate Justice Jackson could hear cases
about executive power and congressional oversight.
One of the things that we've been talking about
is the appointment of federal benches.
And Brown, of course,
she is one of eight black female judges.
President Joe Biden has nominated that have been confirmed. He appointed 13 black women, the most by any sitting president.
Judge Tiffany Cunningham became the first black judge ever to
serve on the federal circuit.
Judge Candace Jackson-Okewumbe became the only woman of color
serving on the seventh circuit and just the second black woman
to serve on the court ever.
Judge Eunice Lee became the only black woman actively serving on the Circuit and just the second black woman to serve on the court ever. Judge Eunice Lee
became the only black woman actively serving on the
Second Court and the second black woman to serve
on the court ever. Judge Holly Thomas became
the first black woman to serve on the
Ninth Circuit from California and is the
second active black woman judge on that
court with 29 active judges. There are
a few pending nominees, including black women
who become the first to serve on the
Third Circuit, Delaware Supreme Court Justice Tamika
Montgomery Reeves, the Fifth Circuit Judge
Dana Douglas, and the Eleventh Circuit Nancy
Abudu. The thing here is
that we also,
now one of the things I was talking with folks,
Matt, about on this issue
is that part of the issue is, yes,
it's great to see these
particular judges
here, but a lot of these judges are replacing black judges.
I was talking to someone on this issue,
and they said that what really should be happening is
we should be seeing an expansion in the number of judges
as opposed to replacing black judges.
We want to see more on the federal bench.
Yeah, I think that's important.
And I think it's important, especially on the appellate level, to have judges because you're
not only looking at what's happening in trial, you have people who are deciding what cases should be
remanded back to the district court and what cases should be decided in a certain way so that if they
go up to the Supreme Court, you know, you have a solid base of decisions. So I don't disagree with that principle. I think it should not just be replacing the
black judges, but it should be expanding those judges. And it should really be about making
sure it's not purely ornamental, because the reality is, of the Supreme Court justices,
there have been 116 since the inception of the Supreme Court, and only eight have not been white men.
So, I mean, the dearth is just ridiculous. The number of judges that have been white,
overwhelmingly, and male since the institution was founded, in general, the federal courts,
is just overwhelming. So it's important to not only replace those judges and not give us just
this feeling of, you know, we feel good because we have a person who looks like us in the position. There should be a true proof that there's an
intention of equity on these benches. And to that end, one thing I wanted to mention is,
as we look at issues like qualified immunity and voting issues and other issues that are going up
to the Supreme Court, sometimes the lived experience of those judges is super important, like that judge in Mississippi who wrote a 76-page opinion basically saying this law is
bunk, I have to follow it, but this is a law that we need to change. I can't remember
Your Honor's name in that instance. That's important because that's not the kind of thing
we've seen from judges who have not had the lived experience of being Black and in America.
So it's important for the judiciary
to have those faces so that they can, you know,
impart their lived experience
when they're making judicial decisions
that affect our lives.
There are some people, Kelly,
who have tried to dismiss these appointments.
And I got to remind people,
you got Judge Cannon,
who is making these
rulings dealing with the Department of Justice in the search of Mar-a-Lago. We can look at
so many examples of how one judge weighing in can alter history. So I think people make
a serious mistake when they act as if these judicial appointments are not that big of a deal.
But that also goes back to what we were talking about in a previous segment about
who actually is informing us of this information and how is it being digested. I think it goes
back to how we were explained how things worked in the past and how it was coming from a more condescending tone.
So you kind of, you know, drown it out.
And what's worse, in you drowning it out,
you gravitate towards somebody who only knows this much about it,
but it actually sounds like something palatable.
So you gravitate towards that misinformation.
And the misinformation given is that judges do not matter.
Judges absolutely
matter. First and foremost, they are at the top of their game as far as the law is concerned.
There's a reason that they were appointed. They have been spending their entire lives
studying jurisprudence to make sure that they have the wherewithal to make decisions on the bench.
And they affect our lives on a very personal level.
Like, again, we see this from the top of SCOTUS down to the Anand Syed case down in Baltimore.
It happens and it occurs on every single level of the judicial system, and it affects us
intimately.
We just need to get that information from people who not only understand that, but are
able to explain it to us in such a way that doesn't sound so condescending and that is easily
digestible. But no, judges absolutely do matter. And we frankly need more judges who understand
the experience, going back to Matt's point, who understand what black people are going through and, again,
cautioning those who are in power to that appoint judges to not just replace a black face with a
black face, because we don't want to be tokenized. We want to be utilized so that we can better our
communities. Again, I always talk about, Michael, connecting the dots. And we simply cannot just overlook what these judges really, really mean long term.
And then when you're able to build upon that, so Democrats are able to hold on to the United States Senate or even expand their power, then now you're talking about potentially by the time the end of Biden,
the first term of Biden-Harris, they may very well be able to appoint more federal judges than Trump did.
Yeah, hopefully so. Trump got 226 confirmed.
And this goes back to understanding not just the courts and the importance of the court, but also the role of the Senate, because it's the U.S. Senate that confirms the federal judges and confirms U.S. Supreme Court justices.
So in 2014, when Republicans won back control of the Senate, Mitch McConnell Republicans blocked one hundred hundred and three federal nominations from President Barack Obama.
One of them was the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, an African-American female judge that
Obama nominated in 2016 named Myra Selby. Myra Selby was blocked. She wasn't even given a hearing
when Trump becomes president, because many people don't understand how the Electoral College works,
which once again deals with law. Then they filled her seat with Amy Coney Barrett.
When Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, they rushed Amy Coney Barrett through in about nine days before the election.
And now she's on the Supreme Court ruling on the Dobbs case, which deals with which basically repeals Roe versus Wade.
OK, so we have to connect the dots
in how to understand the courts.
The courts interpret law.
The laws coming from the legislative branch of government,
the courts can determine whether it's constitutional
and the law remains or strike down the law.
It's going to be the courts that determine
whether or not the African-American farmers
and Latino farmers, et cetera,
will be able to get the $4 billion in debt forgiveness that's in the $1.9 trillion American Rescue
Plan.
That's dealing with the courts.
So, we haven't really been explained how politics and laws impact every aspect of our lives
and the role of the courts.
Republicans understand that much better than Democrats and African-Americans, but we're
starting to learn that more, and it's
extremely important that we understand that for
the 2022 midterm elections and
2024. Absolutely,
and again, it's trying to get
people to understand
how all of these things
matter, and
not just, again, the federal
elections as well.
Let's talk about North Carolina Carolina where North Carolina Sheriff has resigned
after audio of him calling black
people black bastards gets
released. Columbus County Sheriff
Captain Jason Soles
recorded Sheriff Jody Green
doing a phone call, a racist rant
about black employees of the county sheriff's
office. Yeah,
this white sheriff
showed his true,
true white supremacist colors.
Check this out.
The first place I see,
I've got office numbers too.
I mean, the first extension
that Melvin Campbell
or Lewis Hatches called,
they're gone.
First one I found.
Period.com.
I'm sick of it now.
Sick of these black bastards.
What are they trying to say?
I'm going to be playing the house.
I'll be done with it.
Period.
And we'll start from there.
What are they trying to say?
It's just shit all the time.
That's from two weeks ago.
When I got the mail going to leave,
until now, when I see the mail was called,
the mail was called, it was called anybody.
If anybody's called him, there it goes.
Second little session.
It's just, Sabrina, who else?
They're gone.
I'm kidding.
It's as fair as I can be.
Just give me a heads up, that's Kevin.
My man, Boyd, and Angie got to it tomorrow.
The first numbers we see, they ain't going to make it, brother.
I'm kidding.
They might as well come somewhere else again.
If they're not with me,
I ain't referring to you,
but if they're not with me, they're against me.
And they're gone.
Talked about his black political rival,
a sergeant in his department
and a black detention officer.
The audio was reported to county commissioners,
but only one responded
to the complaint. North Carolina
State Bureau of Investigation is looking to
allegations of obstruction of justice
by the now former Columbus County
Sheriff and deputies under
his command. See y'all, this
is the stuff I'm just
trying to explain to y'all that keep going
on, that we kind of act like
when these folk get in power,
they show their true colors.
And speaking of this, this fool here, he wants to be in power.
This dude in Michigan.
So a Republican Michigan State representative,
candidate named Jason Wolford,
recently appeared on a podcast called The Gray Area
and recounted a story about him seeing a black family
at a
Cracker Barrel restaurant wearing masks.
Now, they're minding their own business.
They're wearing masks.
So this asshole, he decides instead of minding his own business,
he wants to roll up on them and ask them
why they thought it necessary to wear
masks in the midst of a pandemic.
But then somehow he
wants to bring abortion into this.
Watch this, fool.
I just want to say this,
and I want people to listen
very, very carefully here, so this
is not taken the wrong way, but we were in
Cracker Barrel, and let me preface the story to this. My wife is Mexican. Okay. So she's got some fire. She's
got some fire. Right. She's a fuego. Muy fuego. Yeah. So my point is, and then my youngest daughter
is married and she has, her husband's half black. So my point is this, the people that are listening
right now, remember that story when I'm about what I'm about to say. So my point is this, the people that are listening right now, remember
that story when I'm about what I'm about to say. So we're in Cracker Barrel and I see this family
walk in and for the sake of description, I'll say black, African-American, whatever, as we'd say in
the Marine Corps, dark green. Okay. And they all have masks on. This is just a couple of weeks ago.
And then they sit down and they have masks on and they lift the mask off to eat. Then they put it
back on.
And when I saw this, I went over to them and I said, excuse me.
I said, I want to tell you a story real quick.
And I said, you see my family over there?
I said, my wife's Mexican.
My granddaughter's 25% black.
I said, I just want you to know where I'm coming from when I say what I'm going to say.
I said, I want to remind you that first, anybody at this table, you're not black and I'm not white.
You're dark brown and I'm piggy pink. Okay. Let's say having fun. Cause I don't like that narrative
of the black and the white. It's very divisive and people have bought into it. And the Marine
Corps was smart in that for dark green, uh, light green, whatever. But my point is I told them,
I said, listen, do you find it ironic that the very people that are telling you to wear this mask are the same people who go into your inner cities and slaughter the babies of black and Hispanics?
Those are the same people telling you they care about you and to wear that mask.
And so I don't mean to be political, but at the same time, right is right and wrong is wrong.
And you said earlier, you know, you sniff things out and it looked like this thing we were going through
had more holes than Swiss cheese. Right. And so I just want those that are listening, you know,
brown, piggy pink, whatever they want to say, color wise, across social races, financial,
you know, means we need to pay attention to our freedoms and what's being taken from us,
what we're allowing to be taken, and then also the agenda that's being pushed on us,
because it's just so many times not the fact.
These are the type of dumbasses we're dealing with here in Michigan, Roland.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm just playing.
I've lived in Michigan 51 years. Uh-uh. Uh-uh, uh-uh.
OK. First, these black people came to Cracker Barrel to eat.
Did nobody come to Cracker Barrel
to see his punk ass roll up on him asking about, first of all, somebody posted a tweet.
It's one of the best tweets I've seen about masks.
The guy said he was on an airplane.
And somebody said, what's the value of you wearing that mask?
He said, this mask keeps me minding my own damn business.
Now, here's what's a trip, y'all.
This white man don't know who the hell these black people are.
This white man don't know if they black Republicans,
if they black Democrats, if they black independents.
He don't know nothing about these black people.
He just decided to get his puffy
what do you call himself, Matt?
Piggy pink.
He said to get his piggy pink ass up,
roll up
on his black couple,
interrupt their damn breakfast,
and
then he goes,
the folk telling you
where the mass are the ones slaughtering black babies.
Okay, what's Piggy Pink's name?
Piggy Pink.
Jason Wolford.
Jason Wolford.
Okay.
Wolford, yeah.
I wish I knew the black family. And I wish they would have said, let's just say Jason brought his piggy pink ass in front of me.
And I would have said,
hey, Jason, you got anything to say about black folks who've been slaughtered by cops?
Then I would have said, hey, Jason,
since you care so much about black people,
what you got to say about your party being the one defending
Confederate statues and memorials?
Hey, Jason, since your ass got so much to say, what do you have to say about your own
party overturn the will of the people when it comes to the commission to redraw districts.
Since your ass got so much to say, piggy pink.
Where do you stand on civil rights? asinine piggy pink white conservatives really get on my nerves when
they want to roll up on black
people
and talk about oh
the black babies being slaughtered
in communities
as if white folks ain't out
here having abortions
y'all
math is math. Y'all, y'all, math
is math.
If y'all telling
me that black
people, and I've
seen them throw, let's
say if there are
500,000
black abortions a year,
we represent
13% of the population.
Do you know how many white folks
are having abortions every single year?
But y'all notice how they don't roll up
on white folks like that.
Because, see, this is the game that they try to play.
See, so, Michael, this ain't limited to Michigan.
This is Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, Illinois, Georgia, Tennessee,
Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, Arizona.
We could go on and on and on.
And they love to play black people as if we somehow don't know what their game.
No, game, recognized game.
And so,
I really wish that black couple
would come forward
to just light this fool up,
piggy pink,
for his big,
and then,
now, y'all,
now y'all,
before we get started,
before we get started,
my wife
Hispanic
say dog
that don't mean a damn thing
Lou Dobbs punk ass wife Latino
and hell
he was always ranting and raving
and supporting Trump
Greg Abbey too
and then I love this one
now hold up hold up now my wife Latino
and then talk about racist and stereotypical And then I love this one. Now, hold up, hold up. Now, my wife, Latino.
And then talk about racist and stereotypical.
Oh, my goodness. That means your wife is a hot tamale.
That means she's fire.
Oh, my goodness.
She's a bottle of Tabasco sauce.
That's essentially what they said about the man's wife.
And he's like, oh, my God, you're right.
I'm like, his wife is going to slap your dumb ass.
Right. But then he goes, oh my God, you're right. I'm like, his wife's like, slap your dumb ass. Right.
But then he goes, oh, and hold up, by the way,
my daughter, she has a black husband.
I really hope her black
husband said, what the hell
is your dumb ass telling that story?
He said half black.
And then he quantified it at
25% for somebody.
He basically called his granddaughter a quadrant.
Well, you know, they're black and African-American or whatever.
I don't really see.
Because in the military, we call them green.
Oh, so now we're Martians?
Seriously.
These people, this is why I had a woman came up to me today, Kelly, at the
Quiches Center, and she's like, Roland, I've been supporting you for the longest.
It was the oldest.
I said, you know, but, she said, but you cuss too much.
See, this story right here, this story right here.
Sister told me she gave money.
Her son watched it.
She said, I just, I can't watch you as much
rolling. She said, I said, first of all, we don't
cuss every day.
But this story right
here is precisely
why we got to cuss people
out on this show, Kelly. Right here.
I mean,
sometimes you just don't have
any other language
other than profanity. And this is one of those times. I mean, sometimes you just don't have any other language other than profanity.
And this is one of those times.
I mean, it is said that with the human brain, the more you know and the more intelligent you are, the wrinklier it gets.
You get the ridges and stuff in the brain like you see in pictures. say what came out of his mouth regarding his wife, his daughter, and his grandchild,
but also the conclusions that he drew
from wearing a mask to abortions.
Like, you can't make that make sense because it doesn't.
The levels of stupidity and ignorance in that clip is astounding and sadly hilarious, which is why it's hard for me to.
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But Michael, these are folk who are running for public office.
These are people who are going to be voting on legislation that impacts us.
I'm trying to tell people how serious this is.
This is the type of people that we have in the state legislature here in Michigan, and
these are the type of Republicans that you have in state legislatures, especially all
throughout the South, OK?
And I have a picture of Elhaj Malik Al-Shabazz behind me, Malcolm X. Malcolm X lived in Lansing,
in East Lansing.
Malcolm said that whenever you're in, whenever you're south of
the Canadian border, you're in the south. This is the type of mentality from a lot of these people.
And this is what we see here in Michigan. Okay. So he's drawn, and just keep in mind that the
guidelines for wearing masks during coronavirus, through the pandemic, they come from the CDC,
which is the federal government.
Regardless of whether it's Democrat, Republican,
what have you, that comes from the CDC.
And then it comes from your state government as well.
So this is the type of nonsense that we're dealing with.
But these people like this have to be voted out of office.
They're dangerous. Okay, they're dangerous. And then, you know, he said his wife is Mexican.
Then he talks about his daughter, his boyfriend is half black, things like this. And we need to pull up his voting record to see what type of policies did he vote for,
what type of policies did he vote against.
You know, so this is an example
of how elections have consequences
and why these people are so dangerous.
The thing here, Matt,
again,
these black people just,
see, just trying to mind their own business
and this fool just had to roll up
just to be stuck on stupid.
Look, man, the thing that's ridiculous about this,
especially ridiculous, is this is exactly what white people
who are racist who don't want to believe they're racist do.
They try to give themselves license by saying,
see, I got black friends.
My granddaughter is half black or Black friends. My granddaughter is
half Black or partially Black. My wife is Hispanic. None of those things give you license to be
racist, number one. But number two, this is what conservatives do, is they make strawman arguments
that have absolutely nothing to do with what you're talking about. If he had walked over to
them and talked to them about mask policy, he shouldn't have been there bothering them anyway.
But that would make more sense than trying to take that and then extend it to this conversation about the inner cities, number one.
And I think further in that clip, he says, I don't know if they actually lived in the
inner cities, but that's the kind of racism that you see from people who want to believe
that they're just talking from a standpoint of reason or rights, right,
you know, presentation of rights, because I think he says that in the clip, like,
oh, they're taking away our rights from us. You don't have to bother these people, number one.
And number two, you know, these people don't care about your opinions on policy, especially,
as Michael said, when it's promulgated from the CDC. That's the thing that's so absurd about it.
Conservatives like to vacillate and go back and forth between
we're the government and you should
trust us and listen to us, and you can't trust
the government at all, depending on what's
advantageous to their position.
That's what's absurd about this. Let the people
eat. Don't bother them.
Go ahead and let them enjoy their lives
and don't bother them with your
racism that you try to veil as being
respectful.
It's real simple.
Why you got to wear a mask?
Because I ain't got to smell a piggy pink.
I ain't got to smell BS coming from piggy pink.
Yeah, that's why I'm wearing a mask.
All right, y'all.
Got to go to a break.
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I've always said this.
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And to that extent, who bakes the pie?
And who puts it in?
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Right.
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Hatred on the streets.
A horrific scene.
A white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence.
On that soil, you will not regret that.
White people are losing their damn lives.
There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol.
We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance.
We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.
This is part of American history.
Every time that people of color have made progress,
whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson
at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash.
This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys.
America, there's going to be more of this.
There's all the Proud Boys, guys.
This country is getting increasingly racist
in its behaviors and its attitudes
because of the fear of white people.
The fear that they're taking our jobs,
they're taking our resources,
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In Florida, congressional districts were rerouted.
Rhonda Santus wanted to gut the black districts,
and District 26 was one of those that was seriously restructured.
My next guest, she is running against Congressman Mario Diaz-Ballard.
Christine Olivo says she's the best first person for the job. She is here for CBC.
Christine, glad to have you. You know, again, with the Voting Rights Act been under assault,
Florida was able to do this. DeSantis didn't give a damn, didn't care about impacting
black folks. Obviously, you're running against someone who gets significant
support from Cuban-Americans there in the Miami area.
So the question is, how are you going to defeat him in November?
Thank you so much, Roland, for having me.
It is a pleasure.
How are we going to beat him?
We're going to show up.
I am all over the district putting boots on the ground.
I believe that we need to go old school.
It is that knocking on doors, phone banking, text banking, reaching the voters right where
they're at. And what we are seeing is that there is a common, we all stand on one common ground.
We do not want our rights messed with. And right now, from Collier County
to Miami-Dade County,
women are fighting for their rights.
And that is how we're going to win.
I am the only woman
in that race. I am the only
pro-choice candidate
in that race. I am the only Black
woman in that race.
And women will show up.
And we talk about on the ground, what kind of support are you getting from the DCCC?
Do they see this to be as competitive race, or are they ignoring you?
The district went from an R plus 28 to an R plus 4.
If I tell you that, you're thinking, okay, that's flippable.
We can win this with the right support.
I get crickets, and I'm just going to be honest. I'm not getting the support,
especially not from the DCCC. They specifically-
Wait, wait, wait. You said the district went from an R plus 28 to R plus four?
Yes.
Okay.
So we can flip that because 53,000 voters in District 24 have been moved into 26, and those are all Democratic voters.
I have reached out to DCCC many times, and they have specifically said that they are focusing on my Latina counterpart who is running in District 27, and that all their focus is going into her race. And I said, well, we can flip this
with the right resources. Honestly, I'm not the only Black woman that is not getting the support
that we need in Florida. We have Aramis Ayala. We have Naomi Blumer. We have Shante Munns,
Karen Green. Black candidates in Florida, female candidates are not getting the support that we need.
Wow.
What are the critical issues you see affecting folks in this district?
Number one, we have a housing crisis.
The rent has increased by 58%.
And we need to tackle that housing crisis immediately. We are seeing evictions daily,
one of them being my uncle, who just got served an eviction notice. He is elderly. He's on Social
Security, and he's in the district. We are also seeing with the housing crisis, we also have an income crisis. We need to raise the minimum wage to a livable
wage. Those are the main things. Now, our second thing, we have an environmental crisis. A lot of
the reason why our community is being moved out is because we have climate gentrification.
So everyone that's living fancy on Miami Beach,
now they're being flooded,
and they're moving into our district,
which is Midtown, Wynwood, Overtown, Alapata.
They're moving inward and moving us out.
We've got to fight climate change.
We need bold action.
That's the only way that we're going to stop
climate gentrification,
which is attacking
not only our homeowners, but also our small businesses. And lastly, we've got to fight for
human rights. I'm not just talking about reproductive rights. I'm talking about our
voting rights. I'm talking about our rights to marriage. I'm talking about our basic fundamental
human rights that are being attacked day in and day out, especially in the state of Florida.
Well, look, it is going to is always an uphill battle, if you will, especially when you're not getting support from the triple C.
Fundraising is critical. Where do you stand right now when it comes to fundraising in your race? We've only got 39 days left, and we need to raise about another $250,000 to $300,000 just to compete, just to get our message out to all the voters.
We can win this thing.
And let me tell you, we are doing everything we can. But another 250,000 to 300,000 would get us not only to the Democrats or inactive Democrats,
we can now reach the NPAs. The NPAs are going to decide this race.
And NPAs, what does that mean?
I apologize. Non-party affiliates. Those are the people that feel like they are politically
homeless. They don't go with the Democrats. They don't go with the Republicans.
They go, you know, in between.
So we have our non-party affiliates.
And let me tell you, non-party affiliates make up one-third of the district.
Gotcha.
Well, look, certainly good luck.
Hopefully folks will heed the call.
If folks want to get more information about you or even contribute, where do they go?
www.ChristineForcongress.org. You can find me on Twitter at Christine4FL,
TikTok Christine4FL, or Christine4Congress on Instagram. But please check out the website,
www.christineforcongress.org. All right, then. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks so very much,
Christine. Good luck. Thank you.
That particular point there, I've heard from a number of people, Kelly,
about the lack of support that the DCCC is giving to black candidates.
And I talked to folks and they said,
you have candidates who are in, as she described, winnable districts,
but if you're starving them
and ignoring them, there's no shot at winning. Going from a plus 28 Republican to a plus four,
hey, that's a huge, huge drop. That's impressive more than anything,
because you don't hear about that. That doesn't necessarily happen. But it is frustrating that
DCCC is cherry picking who they're supporting
and who they're not. More importantly, I've seen on a broader scale who they are supporting,
and it's very little people that look like us that they're supporting, which is telling,
considering that you need people who look like us in order to secure those seats.
So with 39 days left, I don't know if there's much that they can do,
but this is certainly a lesson
that they need to take heed to
and apply for the next election cycle come 2024.
Matt?
I echo Kelly's sentiments,
and I especially don't understand
why they wouldn't be interested
in funneling money to a race
where she has 53,000 people who recently moved into the district that are non-party affiliates, especially when Ron DeSantis is very clearly trying to run for president.
So presumably the Democratic base there in Florida is energized.
And this is an opportunity to really leverage, frankly, his human rights violations and his long history
of doing stupid things in Florida. To use Michael's term, he needs to be
desanitized. Hopefully the Democrats can buoy that to a victory for Christine and others.
The thing here, Michael, again, you need party support. Look, we understand finite dollars,
but there are a number of black candidates across the country who say
they are not getting the kind of support they need.
Yeah, I think that message needs to be really highlighted and pressure needs to be put on
the triple C and get some explanation on why aren't you supporting these African-American
candidates. And then at the same time, you know, I've seen interviews dealing with the,
I don't remember the exact name of it, but it's like the Black Pack or something like that.
Well, you have the Collective Pack, you have Higher Heights,
you have Higher Heights that support specifically Black women who are running for office.
So you've seen an increasing number of groups.
Right, right, exactly.
So I've seen different interviews
with different groups like that also.
So at the same time that we put pressure on the DCCC,
we also have to support groups like that
that funnel money to African-American candidates as well.
We need both of them.
But the DCCC needs to be called out on this.
And hopefully, I know you all are discussing this candidates as well. We need both of them. But the DCCC needs to be called out on this and hopefully
I know you all
are discussing this at the Congressional Black
Caucus Legislative Weekend as well. So I look
forward to some of those conversations
next week when you air
some of those interviews that you're doing, Roland.
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You ought to call Florida Memorial because they're actually creating a black power initiative as we speak.
Barrington was one of the first graduates in that area.
Okay?
All right.
Who wants to?
Come on, Mr. FAA.
All right.
Eric, thank you.
And I'm glad that you raised that issue in terms of the larger workforce issue.
And I will say that I was down at Delta Airlines
this week and we spoke quite extensively about the challenges we're going forward.
We're looking forward to working not only with Delta and the larger carriers
to have them come up with a commitment to deal with the whole issue of pilot shortage,
but making sure that minorities get into the workforce to become pilots, technicians, and others who are in the aviation industry.
Aviation industry jobs pay very, very well. And I want to make sure that as I'm going forward to
work to increase what we already have a budget for, roughly about $10 million, to deal with
the whole issue of developing a stronger pipeline to get young minority students into the aviation industry. And the other thing is we want to see many, many
more women come into our industry as we go forward. So look out for us. I'm going to be-
All right, folks. Perfect timing for our conversation today. Trust me, that was not
planned. Joining me right now is Cherie Gilbert, Director of Communications and Marketing at the Florida
Memorial University, and Dr. Jorge Guerra, the university's Aviation Program Director.
Glad to have both of y'all here.
That brother right there, again, responsible for hiring all pilots for Delta Airlines.
And so the program that you're starting, I mentioned the young brother, Barrington.
I gave the first commencement address I gave.
It was actually at Florida Memorial.
It was in the graduating class.
And he talked about how he became a pilot because he said he was working in
the mall and this guy came in dressed clean in the suit.
And he was like, man, what do you do?
And he told him, he said, how much you make?
And he told him that. He was like, man, what do you do? Then he told him, he said, how much you make? Then he told him that.
He was like, damn, I'm going to be a pilot.
But the reality is you've got to be able to have a feeder program.
So talk about what you're starting at Florida Memorial.
Well, thank you so much for having us.
Before Dr. G gets started, I'll let him give his,
we'll talk about his relationship with Irvin.
He has a special bond with him, and he's our director of aviation and safety program.
So he touches the students directly.
We have a lot of partnerships.
A lot of big companies are knocking at our door wanting to get our talent.
So I'll let Dr. G talk about our talent firsthand because he teaches them in the classroom and has a direct connection with them.
Well, Roland, thank you for having us on your program.
And yes, we've had a program at Florida Memorial since 1986.
And we prepare students not only to be pilots, but we also have an air traffic control
program, and we have an aviation management program that we prepare students for the industry.
Barrington is one of our graduates, our alum, and we're very proud of everything that he's
accomplished, and we just want to have more like Barrington come through our program.
We do have a lot of support right now from the industry, but we could use a whole lot more.
Like you mentioned early in your program, the biggest barrier is financial.
And so we need to find ways to help students get through the burden of affording to go through a program that's aviation related.
How many students do you have right now? Go through your program.
We have 81 students enrolled right now at Florida Memorial University for all three programs.
Gotcha. And you want to grow it to what in terms of what sort of capacity you're looking to grow it to?
I'd love to have 150, 200 students strong. We don't want to make it too large because this is a boutique type of program and we want to give special one-on-one attention to our students.
But we could prepare a lot more students of color, women. We have a lot of
females in our program, so we certainly could use more capacity for this program.
And so in terms of needs, what do you need? What's that number? And you mentioned,
Sheree, in terms of the corporations knocking on your door.
What are you making it clear?
And not just airlines, but you've got companies that make planes.
You've got helicopter companies.
You've got a lot of different folks in sort of this space.
And so what are you making clear?
What do you need financially to build a program? Well, you kind of consider that to become
a pilot, aside from tuition for university costs, it costs a student about $70,000 additionally
just to learn how to fly and have enough hours to qualify to become a certified flight instructor and then gain
more hours before the airlines are interested in our students. So if we could bridge that gap
where we can get $70,000 to each of our students that want to be pilots, that's where the dollars are. Sheree? Yes. Well, I'll add to that. We just recently
saw an uptick in our enrollment. Just to give you an idea, our freshman class is the largest
that we've seen in 15 years. So definitely kudos to our enrollment management staff and our
programs that are enticing these students, like our aviation and safety program, to attend Florida Memorial University.
Some of those partnerships, we are embargoed, so we can't go into detail about them,
but we will be making a big announcement in a couple months with one of these partnering agencies.
And Dr. G has worked very hard to bring those type of agencies to our university so that we can entice students to come to Florida Memorial University and take part in our aviation program.
Since its inception in our aviation program, we've graduated about 500 students and about 85 percent of those students are working in the industry right now.
OK, questions from our panel. Let's see,
Matt, you first. Sure. I just learned the other day, trade airspeed for altitude, right,
is what pilots learn. So this is a really, really interesting program. I guess the question I have
for you is twofold. First, for those who want to be pilots, do you particularly cull from all the students at Florida Memorial, students of all majors, or do they apply for the aviation degree in particular?
And to that end, is there any kind of reciprocity for students at other HBCUs that might be interested in visiting or basically doing a domestic study abroad at Florida Memorial for the aviation program?
Are there any kind of reciprocity programs?
So we don't have reciprocity programs with other universities.
There are a number of other HBCUs that have aviation programs.
We do draw from all over the country and we draw a lot
of students from the Caribbean since we're located in Miami. But we have
students from all over the country but might mainly are there Florida students.
Kelly. Sure so for students who are interested in becoming a pilot, obviously you need to take courses as a student of the university.
Are there courses that are best suited for those who are interested in pursuing this career?
Or is it something that once you are in this program, you are pretty much kind of enveloped in whatever you need to pursue this career?
So the program is designed to prepare people to be pilots, right? So from the very first semester,
students aren't taking their general education courses like any other university.
But right off the bat, we put the aviation students in the private pilot ground. And this is a course that teaches them on the ground before they get into an airplane, all the different aspects of
becoming a pilot, a private pilot. And so our students from the very first semester are
encouraged to take that course. They're also encouraged to take Introduction to Aerodynamics
and History of Aviation. So right from the very first semester,
our students are already engaged in this industry.
Michael. Hey, this is a great program. And I was going to ask for high school students, because I was in a pre-engineering program in middle school. For high school students, what are some courses that you recommend high school students to take who say, hey, I want to be a pilot. I want to attend Florida Memorial University.
Right. So what I would recommend is for those students, if they can go to a magnet school,
there's several magnet schools here locally in Miami and in Broward County that have aviation
as a theme. If a student is interested, they can go to these schools
and they can take dual enrollment courses,
introduction to aerodynamics, the private pilot ground school.
All those courses are available to high school students.
All right. Thank you.
All right.
Anything else that you want to share with our audience?
I would like to add, Dr. G, that we didn't mention that the Opelika Airport is right next to our campus.
So students are really getting a hands-on experience.
And they go over and they're able to fly planes and work directly with the individuals who are staffed and employed at the Opelika Airport, which is right across from our
campus. Yeah, we have a great partnership with the Opelika Airport. They do hire a lot of our
students, particularly our aviation management students. There's three fixed-based operators
at Opelika, and all of them are partnered with us, and they all come to us on a regular basis,
providing internships and full-time employment
to our students and our graduates. So we have a great opportunity there for our students to
get into the industry. All right then. Well, look, we certainly appreciate both of you joining the
show. And if folks want to get more information on the aviation program at Float Memorial, where
do they go? fmuniv.edu. We have a new revamped site, so it's user friendly.
Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh.
Slow that down.
Give it again.
Sure.
FMUNIV.edu.
All right, then.
We appreciate it.
Thanks so much.
Thank you for having us.
All right.
Folks, so a few moments ago, I got a text message that a conservative radio talk show host who also is a show on Fox News, Mark Levin with the panel that we did today at the Congressional Black Caucus that I moderated.
And Maya Wiley was on.
So apparently, Mark has been blasting Maya and been blasting me.
And so then I just got this text here, which I'm really laughing about.
He says, yeah, you would never invite him to
your program.
He was screaming and saying, yeah, Roland Martin is a member of the Democratic Party
and a leftist.
He won't invite me.
Come right here.
Mark, let me go ahead and put, because you probably call Harry Belafonte a socialist.
Mark Levin, you actually think I'm scared to debate you?
So, Mark Levin, take this as your official invite to come on Roland Martin Unfiltered.
Take your pick, Mark.
You want 30 minutes?
You want an hour?
Or you want two hours?
Matter of fact, Mark, I own it.
We can go three hours.
Any day, any time.
Now, Mark, invite me on your show, your radio show, or your Fox News show.
That's the invite.
See, Mark, if you sometimes ask for an ass-whipping, you'll receive it.
So let's see now, Mark, whether you got the guts
to say yes. And Mark, I don't need backup. Won't be anybody else. You and me. And Mark,
you want to do it in person? We'll do it in person.
Because I own the damn cameras.
So you let me know when you want to have this conversation, Mark Levin.
Your move.
All right, y'all, that's it for us.
Kelly, Michael, Matt, I don't know why these folk want to try me.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why these folk want to try me. I don't know.
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I don't know why they want to try me.
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They don't want no part of this alpha man.
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