#RolandMartinUnfiltered - ICE Killing Cover-Up? Minnesota Barred From Probe, Crockett Clashes With GOP, Noem Under Fire

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

1.8.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: ICE Killing Cover-Up? Minnesota Barred From Probe, Crockett Clashes With GOP, Noem Under Fire Minnesota's state agencies have been banned from participating in the in...vestigation of the murder of Renee Good, who an ICE agent killed. We'll discuss the misleading statements Kristi Noem has made regarding the shooting.  Atlantic reporter Adam Serwer will explain how the Trump Administration has perfected the art of the smear campaign. Capitol Hill has been tense since Wednesday's shooting. Texas Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett passionately addresses Republicans who criticized her choice of words regarding Renee Good's death. You won't want to miss that exchange. We'll also show the confrontation between a Minnesota Uber driver and Border Patrol agents questioning his citizenship.   Virginia Congressman James Walkinshaw will join us to discuss various topics, including the House vote on Affordable Care Act subsidies and the situation in Venezuela. Megyn Kelly is facing backlash for her praise of white nationalist Nick Fuentes. In our Black Star Network Marketplace, we'll introduce you to a mother whose search for safer options for herself and her children inspired her to create the plant-based haircare brand Loc-Sanity. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:45 They even sent out Vice President J.D. Banks to admonish everyone blasting these left-leaning, violent domestic terrorists. Adam Serra with John from the Atlanta, he has a piece talking about how the smear effort immediately started from the Trump folks. Also, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett gets teary talking about that murder that took place yesterday in Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Folks are still responding there as well, so we'll be breaking down what's happening there on Capitol Hill. Guess what? Donald Trump vetoed two bills those that were passed unanimously, Republicans are so scared to him. They wouldn't even override his veto today. But the Democrats did force Republicans to join with them. Nine of them did.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And they passed a three-year extension of the Affordable Care Act subsidies. Now it goes over to the United States Senate. And so we'll see what happens there. It's a whole lot we're going to be getting to. And so it's time for us to bring the funk. I'm Roland on Filcher on the Black Sun Network. Let's go. A tragic shooting of a woman in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:09:45 by an ICE agent. They say that particular agent has been treated and is now spending time with his family. Now remember yesterday they claimed, oh, he was being hospitalized, but we saw video of this man walking around like it was no big deal. Now what we also hear is that the feds have told Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota to butt out of the investigation. DHS secretary, ICE Barbie, Christy Noam, spoke at a news conference. and she talked about
Starting point is 00:10:14 when she really gave us alternative facts in this case listening to what she had to say especially regarding remember she talked about the snow how they had to dig themselves out of the snow the video totally contradicts her but this is her today
Starting point is 00:10:28 yes the head of Minnesota State Investigations Agency said that they had been cut out of the investigation into the fatal shooting in Minneapolis can you explain that reversal I'd like to know where they've been and why they're not out on the streets
Starting point is 00:10:42 investigating all of these people that are harassing and inciting violence on law enforcement officers right now. They're allowing the situation to be volatile. They're not doing their work. They haven't for years. And maybe they should get to work a little bit on the unprecedented fraud that we've seen in Minnesota and in Minneapolis by people that stole from American citizens and diverted funds away from vulnerable people and programs and services that they needed and put it into their own pockets. Minnesota is a train wreck. It is corrupt, and it was under the leadership of Governor Walls and this mayor that they allowed it to happen, and they let criminals and illegals and people abuse programs and steal the money, and now they're allowing violence to go forward on the streets as well. County sheriffs, the federal authorities at this point, they don't want.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I won't put a blanket statement out like those other individuals will. What I would say is I welcome them to come and help us. Come help us make sure that the streets are safe, that laws are enforced, and that we can do the right thing to make sure that a member. American citizens come first. Director Russo spoke about how this operation happened discreetly under the cover of darkness, and that's how it should be, which is in contrast to what happened in Minneapolis yesterday. What do you mean in contrast to what happened?
Starting point is 00:11:57 That was very, very, very, not, very much not. Because of the protesters and the violent criminals that were attacking our law enforcement. If you remember in that operation, what happened was our officers were out trying to get a car stuck out of the snow when they were surrounded and assaulted and blocked in by protesters that were inciting. The officer was following his training. He did follow his training because of an individual that was. Point blank into a driver's window. Is that part of the training?
Starting point is 00:12:24 How is that self-defense? This is an experienced officer who followed his training, and we will continue to let the investigation unfold into the individual and continue to follow the procedures and policies that happen in these use of force cases. But let's remember the events that surrounded. what happened yesterday on that tragic situation, was that these individuals had followed our officers all day, had harassed them, had blocked them in,
Starting point is 00:12:49 they were impeding our law enforcement operations, which is against the law, and when they demanded and commanded her to get out of her vehicle several times, she did not. So we'll continue to allow this process to unfold and recognize that these law enforcement officers every single day put their lives on the line. They go out and do their jobs.
Starting point is 00:13:07 They go out and... I don't know for a domestic terrorist though without an investigation. This was an act of domestic terrorism, which is perpetuating. These policies and procedures that follow a use of force situation like this are continuing to be put in place. So this is standard operating procedure after every use of force situation is that we followed these procedures and protocols. This situation is no different. Ice Barbie was lying, y'all. Look right here.
Starting point is 00:13:36 This is a memorandum that that was a, that took place under the Biden administration. It is dated May 20th, 2002. It went to the director of the FBI, the administrator of the DEA, the acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives, the director of the United States Marshal Service,
Starting point is 00:13:55 the director of the Bureau of Prisons, and the Inspector General Office of the Inspector General from Attorney General Merrick Garland. It says departments updated use of force policy. It lays out right here exactly what they are supposed to do. In that use of force policy, it dictates that they are not to fire on a vehicle.
Starting point is 00:14:17 She's lying. They didn't follow policy. But you notice how she ran rough shot over the journalists who are asking questions, and the whole point is throughout as many lies as possible. And so now of a sudden, they're attacking her domestic terrorists, a far left lesbian,
Starting point is 00:14:36 I mean, you name it, they're throwing in a bow. The staff writer Adam Surrey of the Atlantic wrote this piece. He says first the shooting, then the lies. The Trump administration has perfected the smear campaign. He joins us right now. Adam, glad to have you back on the show. That's exactly what this is.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And we see what's going on here. And the entire goal here is try to shove out as many lies as possible to overwhelm the system. And that's why they sit out, not just Carolyn Levitt, Trump's, you know, a chief liar, but they sent out Vice President Jannie Vance to push the lot even further. Yeah, I mean, Roland, this is basically the same playbook that they use when an unarmed black person is killed by law enforcement. They try to assassinate the character of the victim in order to justify killing them. And what's interesting, however, is that you see Nome just sort of making things up that didn't happen and aren't on the video, this idea that they were being surrounded by ICE protesters.
Starting point is 00:15:36 so they were frightened and simply had to use lethal force. The reality is that law enforcement are trained not to fire moving vehicles because it's dangerous. It can cause more danger. You can hit a bystander. If you hit the driver, the car can go out of control and hit more people or possibly other officers. So what we're seeing here is sort of the standard playbook for, you know, used in the aftermath of police shootings of unarmed black people, but it's being deployed by the federal government. against the white woman who they're accusing of being a domestic terrorist or, you know, attacking her
Starting point is 00:16:12 politics. We don't even know what her politics are, to be honest. They're just saying that. You know, there's no reason to trust what they're saying when they're describing her political ideology to justify killing her. And it's really, it's rather striking because the video's there. We can all see it. That was a completely unnecessary shooting that took place. And now we see the federal government, you know, essentially justifying the murder or the killing of an American citizen by an armed agent of the state who is paid by our tax dollars. This is what you actually wrote here and you said, administration officials indifference to facts, to due process to the dignity of a deceased and to basic human decency is remarkable. They could have pleaded for patients and said the incident would be investigated for standard response in such circumstances. They could have even done so while defending the federal agents they have deployed to terrorize areas they perceive as Democratic Party enclaves.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Instead, they proceeded to make ostentatiously dishonest statements that they knew would be contradicted by the video evidence available to with eyes to see it. Now, Donald Trump gave an interview with the New York Times. Remember, he immediately defended the officer made up lies behind the officer. was hurt, almost killed, was getting all sorts of treatment. Yet when the New York Times showed him the video and he's sitting there watching it with them, he backed off of that state. Yeah, that's right. I mean, he said the officer was run over. There are things that they are saying about this incident that are just objectively false, even if you're someone who thinks that the officer acted rationally or was justified, the things that they are saying about
Starting point is 00:18:03 the circumstances of the shooting are completely false. Things like, you know, there was a riot or there were rioters or they were being blocked in by protesters or that she ran over the officer that simply did not happen. And it really, I'm not really sure what to make of the fact that Trump described the video incorrectly simply because he's dishonest so often that it's hard to know if he, you know, didn't actually look at the video or before he was, it was shown to him, whether he, you know, relied on somebody else's description. You know, he did post the video in one of his posts, but, you know, people post video on the internet all the time without really looking at the video. So it's really hard to know what he's thinking. But it sort of doesn't matter. They are
Starting point is 00:18:42 smearing this person. They are trying to destroy her memory the same way that they often do in the aftermath of police shootings of black people. It's, I mean, it's really an extraordinary example of how this stuff is never limited to the vulnerable communities on which it is originally practiced. I mean, you're absolutely right. And again, what was amazingly lappable? You know, this here is the video right here. I'm playing it. And she's like, oh, they were stuck in snow.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And we can see the video. We can see literally the truck pulls up. And they get out of the car. And then this other ICE agent, you know, comes around. And then he fires the shot and fires three shots. And then they're like, oh, my God. oh, he was run over and attacked. And then we also, to your point earlier,
Starting point is 00:19:35 you saw how that car slammed into other cars. And then they refused to render aid. Everyone needs to take care of their mental health, even running back Bijan Robinson. When I'm on the field, I'm feeling the pressure. I usually just take a deep breath. When I'm just breathing and seeing what's in front of me, everything just slows down.
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Starting point is 00:21:37 Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Not allow a doctor to come and treat her. They wouldn't not allow the paramedics to come. The paramedics had to get out of the ambulance, run there to actually administer aid. They made no effort for 15 minutes. And their whole deal, they got this video, the officers laughing about it.
Starting point is 00:21:59 and pat themselves on the back. Yeah, I mean, look, you know, one of the interesting things about this incident is that the federal government has consistently lied about the circumstances of confrontations between federal immigration agents and bystanders or people there arresting. You know, they have tried to charge people with assault
Starting point is 00:22:22 many, many times and been unable to get an indictment because the facts don't fit the hyperbolic descriptions. made by, you know, public officials from the Department of Homeland Security or elsewhere in the Trump administration. The fact is they make things up. They lie to justify the use of force. And I think to some extent, you know, the message that they want to send here to the American people is if you have the wrong political beliefs, not only will we defend someone, an armed agents of the state who kills you, but will imply that you had it coming because of your political ideology. whether or not who actually subscribed to that ideology at all. And again, she's sitting here calling this domestic terrorism with nothing to back it up.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Now, it's amazing all these people who jumped out there talking about, oh, nothing's going to happen to this officer. The shooting was justified. And I'm sitting there going, how can you just sort of make these statements? Now, we know Donald Trump is not going to let the federal authorities do into this guy, but we also don't know if this guy could be. charged by the state. Yet Stephen Miller had no problem going on Fox News, making it perfectly clear, ain't nothing happened to this guy. Listen to this. But what we need to reassure a couple points. To all ICE officers, you have federal immunity
Starting point is 00:23:45 in the conduct of your duties. And anybody who lays a hand on you or tries to stop you or tries to obstruct you is committing a felony. You have immunity to perform your duties. And no one, no city official, no state official, no illegal alien, no leftist agitator or domestic insurrectionist can prevent you from fulfilling your legal obligations and duties. And the Department of Justice has made clear that if officials cross that line into obstruction, into criminal conspiracy against the United States or against ICE officers, then they will face justice. Adam, his was very interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yesterday, there was a high school where they, uh, lit out for the day. And what do the ICE agents do? They decide to show up, go on school property, and they started attacking the students, spraying them with pepper spray and things along those lines. The reason we're seeing these type of actions, and not just in Minneapolis,
Starting point is 00:24:46 we're seeing these actions take place. We've seen it in Los Angeles, in Chicago, and some of the other areas, it's because that Stephen Miller by Donald Trump sitting there in the campaign, 100% of immunity. What they've said is, it doesn't matter. what you do, we are not going to hold you accountable so you can show your ass as much as you want to.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, look, the country of the United States of America was founded on opposition to arbitrary executive power and abuses of power. So, you know, to a certain extent, this really sort of refutes the basic principles of the founding of the country, however hypocritical they were at the time. I think, you know, one of the things that Stephen Miller tried to do, it's not actually true that officers have absolute immunity in the conduct of their duties, number one. But he's telling them that because he wants them to get as violent as possible because the purpose of these deployments is a kind of execution of political violence against areas of the country that Trump perceives as insufficiently loyal to him. But the other thing I would say is that this, you know, people should not be intimidated by this. They should continue to express themselves peacefully. They should continue to oppose the federal government peacefully and illustrate the extent
Starting point is 00:26:11 to which the government is now in the hands of people who do not believe in the basic principles of democracy. And, you know, something you said earlier, Roland, was that, you know, Trump was not going to let the feds investigate this properly, well, it's not supposed to be that way. Criminal federal investigations are supposed to be independent of the White House. It's not supposed to be the president deciding who's guilty and who's not guilty when someone potentially commits a crime. So that sort of fundamental corruption of the American legal system and due process is something that we have accepted far too easily that is sort of, you know, something that is stated
Starting point is 00:26:48 as though that's the way things are supposed to be. And then, they're not supposed to be that way. If they were that way in any other administration, it would be a huge scandal. And yet for some reason, you know, because of the sheer volume of corrupt abuses of power perpetrated by this administration, we let something like that pass, you know, without comment. Well, and on final point here, when you're dealing with a completely corrupt, an immoral person, then you get this here. And frankly, the Supreme Court helped Trump in this way. This What is what he told them? Trump lays out a vision of power restrained only by, quote, my own morality. He literally said to him that he can do whatever he wants. Right here. He says, asking a wide-ranging interview with the New York Times, if there were any limits on his global powers. Trump said, yeah, there is one thing. My own morality, my own mind. It is the only thing that can stop me. I don't need. international law. I'm not looking to hurt people. His position is clear. I will do whatever the
Starting point is 00:27:57 hell I want to do. And to your point, these punks, these Republicans in Congress, don't give a damn. And they would never allow Biden, Obama, Clinton, Carter, if we could go on and on to have that type of power. Yeah. Roland, not even King George III, the tyrant that, you know, the original founders rebelled against was an absolute. monarch. He had parliament. So what Trump is asserted is a level of arbitrary tyrannical power that that is more extreme than what the founders themselves rebelled against. And these are the people who consider themselves, you know, admirers of the founders and defenders of the constitution. They don't believe in anything but their own power and their own ability to hurt other people,
Starting point is 00:28:46 you know, to get whatever they want. Absolutely. Folks need to, to your point, this has to be opposed. And we talk all the time. Elections have consequences. And this precisely, this is precise why people can't sit this out. And you know, Adam, last point, I'm not like a Baptist preacher saying a last point. I had some dude, I was commenting on the page, and I had some dude go, this ain't got nothing to do with us, FBI people. And I said, no, you're an idiot. It does. There was a black man in New, in Los Angeles on New Year's Eve. who was gunned down by an off-duty ice agent when it came to them firing some shots outside of the home celebrating the new year. We've seen individuals with legal status who have actually been held for 20, 25 days. There have been black people who have been detained. So it's stupid for anybody claiming to be foundational, Black American, B1, or whatever, all these damn titles, to act like, oh, this is not impacting us. It's only impacting those African immigrants. It's only impacting those Latinos.
Starting point is 00:29:54 No, what these people are doing, they don't give a damn. And as I said last night on last night show, it was black people who were being detained in the cold, who, of course, who had zip ties on their hands in Chicago when they repelled down a building and had a single person in that 2 a.m. raid was charged. And so they are terrorizing not just undocumented immigrants. They're terrorizing black people,
Starting point is 00:30:19 FBA people as well. And so we better cut this bullshit out acting like, oh, this ain't our business. Yeah. Well, look, Roland, everything they say about Somali immigrants, everything they say about Haitian immigrants, everything they say about African immigrants are people from the quote unquote third world, which is their favorite euphemism, they mean that about all black people everywhere. There isn't some magic line that they're going to consider African American people
Starting point is 00:30:44 different from Caribbean American or, you know, people who have immigrated. from West Africa. They don't care. Okay. Their vision is of a country in which they are the perpetual ethnic majority. And because of that, they consider anyone who is not exactly like them
Starting point is 00:31:03 in their presence to be a threat. Absolutely. Folks, Adam, sir, with the Atlantic. Adam, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Folks, there's been just so much, so much that has been going on today regarding this particular
Starting point is 00:31:21 story in Minnesota. The governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls, spoke about these state agencies being blocked from participating in this investigation. This is what he had to say. We've also spent a lot of time talking last 24 hours about accountability.
Starting point is 00:31:37 That means no function of government operates with impunity. It means when someone's in a position of authority and they commit any act that impacts our people, there has to be a another place to turn to get justice, checks and balances.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Basic idea, the center of the formation of our country. It's the only measure that protects us from the abuse of government or federal overreach or tyrannical government. Yesterday, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, the BCA, spent the day yesterday attempting to get that accountability. We have learned that the Trump administration has now denied the state that ability to participate in the investigation. And I just want to make this as clear as possible to everyone. Minnesota must be part of this investigation. These are nonpartisan career professionals that have spent years building the trust of the community. There's a BCA Force Investigations Unit that was created by the legislature, by the people of Minnesota to provide an independent, consistent, and trusted mechanism for investigating the use of force.
Starting point is 00:32:51 incidents involving law enforcement officers. Minnesota has seen our share of these. And what you've seen is, and I have witnessed it during my time, that these professionals have risen to the moment. They are trusted by people. People who are not by inclination trusting of law enforcement or government have come to see the professionals at the BCA as true arbitrators that can get them justice. The unit is the result of years of scrutiny, public engagement, and bipartisan legislative action. Minnesotans have made it clear time and again. They expect transparency through this process where a police officer uses deadly force.
Starting point is 00:33:34 The BCA Commissioner at Superintendent Evans have earned that trust by delivering on that expectation. I think it's clear to everyone as they saw this that it feels now that Minnesota has been taken out of the investigation. It feels very, very difficult that we will get a fair outcome. And I say that only because... So, folks, that was, again, Minnesota Governor Tim Wall's... Judgment from the president to the vice president to Christy Knoem have stood and told you things that are verifiably false, verifiably inaccurate.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They have determined the character of a 37-year-old mom that they didn't even No. All right, folks. That was Minister of the Governor Tim Walz there. Things got very emotional on Capitol Hill today. Connoissewoman Jasmine Crockett really challenged Republicans on this issue and said so many folks, Democrats were disturbed by this woman being gunned down. And Republican response is pretty much callous and indifferent. It is. It is so. hard to sit here sometimes because I didn't come to Congress to right laws or to do things that are hurting people. I'm just asking if there's any decency or heart or courage on that side of the aisle. The fact that a woman was killed, she was shot in her head and y'all are pretending like nothing happened. I remember when Charlie Kirk got killed. Do you, you? You? You? You? I was shot in her head and y'all are pretending like nothing happen. I remember when Charlie Kirk got killed. Do you? Do you remember what our response was?
Starting point is 00:35:31 Our response wasn't to sit there and pretend like it was okay. Is it okay because you have a badge? Because the last time I checked, allegedly no one is above the law. Can y'all not just have a little bit of courage and humanity. I try to pretend that it is okay. I am asking if there is anyone that will stand for the very people that elected us and sent us to Congress. You tell us things like, well, the immigrants are bad. And so we got to get all these bills because the immigrants are the ones that are causing
Starting point is 00:36:33 the harm. They're bringing the crime. the mayor of Minneapolis told y'all to get the fuck out yet y'all are the ones it is it is this administration that is bringing crimes to their streets that's what's happening it's a third incident where somebody has dropped an f-bomb in this committee including the video including the video that we had to watch are your princess ears okay is it profanity of your committee
Starting point is 00:37:02 the committee about the words that you are about the fact that a one Are you soft? The gentlelady will suspend. Are we defending your princess ears? Are they that soft? All members will suspend. Maybe some of the kids out there. Mr. Chairman, it is the gentlelady's time.
Starting point is 00:37:15 They're killing them. It is the gentlelady's time. Let's let her have her time. It is the gentle lady's time. Would you stop the clock for a moment? Okay. That was the quote. I'll restore that.
Starting point is 00:37:28 The chair will remind all members that the person controlling the time is not to be unreasonably interrupted. We would further admonish that whenever, possible to express the full meaning of something, it be done so without an expletive that may be offensive to people here in the audience or those who watch this on television. I understand that a quote at times is essential, but I would admonish everyone that it has been the practice of this committee for the many years I've been here to use such things as F-bomb in order to get the message out without actually using the word. Notwithstanding that, the gentle lady will be
Starting point is 00:38:12 recognized for this time, plus an additional 20 seconds, the gentle lady may continue. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Long story short, we are sitting in judiciary, and no one on that side of the aisle seems to care that this particular person whose name we don't know at this point became the judge, jury, and executioner. I don't know how you square that. And then we're sitting here literally in markup for a bail funds bill. When I first ran for office, it was in the midst of yet another lynching by law enforcement in Minneapolis. At that time, it was George Floyd. I remember working as a pro bono criminal defense attorney to help protesters that were being arrested.
Starting point is 00:39:16 There were more than 600 protesters that were arrested in Dallas. There were churches that came together to make sure that there were bail funds, there were non-profit organizations, and to explain how it works for bail since we're in judiciary, and we're writing the laws, and some people may not understand this, but those bail funds, those nonprofit organizations are not the ones that determine whether or not somebody gets bail. What they do is they help out poor people, which I know y'all are not interested in either. But they help out people that aren't rich and famous and have limitless amounts of money
Starting point is 00:39:55 like all of the Epstein defendants who somehow y'all can't find, even though y'all went and got Maduro. but it helps out those people to be able to get out of jail. Many of those people that if they spend just a couple of days in jail will then be thrust into straight up poverty because they will lose everything. Why it is that you want to criminalize people such as churches that are trying to help the poor because they understand what the Bible says and they don't just say that they understand it or say that they love Jesus, but they decide that they actually put it
Starting point is 00:40:30 into works because faith without works is dead. That is wrong too. And I'm here to tell you that there's going to be a lot of nonprofit organizations. Everyone needs to take care of their mental health, even running back Bijan Robinson. When I'm on the field, I'm feeling the pressure, I usually just take a deep breath. When I'm just breathing and seeing what's in front of me, everything just slows down. It just makes you feel great before I run the play. Just like Bijan, we all need a strong mental game on and off the field. Make a game playing for for your mental health at love your mind playbook.org. Love your mind.
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Starting point is 00:41:30 And the MAGA influencers, whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment. So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulate. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online in media and in politics with the Brad versus Everyone podcast. Hosted by me, Brad Palumbo.
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Starting point is 00:42:36 There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. ...stations that are going to step up in this moment because there are going to be protests around this entire country because of the state sanction execution that we all saw unfold unless there is some kind of justice that takes place. And we get the name of that officer and that officer is prosecuted. So I ask that law enforcement, we have oversight over them. I am the oversight rancor. Let's go ahead.
Starting point is 00:43:05 In fact, I make a motion that we have a hearing in the oversight subcommittee as it relates to this particular issue and what took place. House Tom's woman, Jasbin Crockett. This is angered so many different people in so many different ways. And a former, in fact, former Minnesota governor, Jesse Ben-Churray. is weighing in saying he is so pissed off with what's going on that he actually may run again for governor and he had a lot to say to Donald Trump. Check this out. No audio. All right. So I got again having some slight audio issues. I will fix that. But I've been sure he called Trump a rich white boy and said we're living in a third world country. So I had that video for you in just a second.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I want to bring in my panel right now. No, they can't wait to weigh in. And so let me welcome to show, as we always do on Thursday's Dr. Greg Carr, Department of African-American Studies, Howard University. Glad to have Greg back. First time in 2006, Greg, good to see you. Resey Coburn, host of the Riesie Cobra Show, Sirius XM Radio. Glad to have you on the show as well. Dr. Nola Haynes, of course, Georgetown University School of International
Starting point is 00:44:43 School of Foreign Service. Glad to have all three of y'all here. Let me start with you, Reese. It's been a whole lot, a whole lot that's been going on. It's just been literally crazy what has been happening. And just, as Adam said, the lies have been coming just full tilt from these wackos in this administration. But that's what they do. They're following the liar in chief. He lies, they lie and they say what the hell. And Mag is so dumb, they believe the lies. Well, yeah, I mean, they want us to believe in alternate reality. And what they should really
Starting point is 00:45:18 do is be embarrassed. We know that this administration has no shame, but typically you would hear measured responses out of DHS, out of the White House. If you didn't have degenerates running the country, you have Beavis and Butthead, reading and Stampy, and I don't even, I can't even think of an insult for Christy. No. She's just the bitch. Um, And so you have these people a very low moral character who are essentially saying that white lives don't matter. Because this was a white woman who was a U.S. citizen who was gunned down by a person who has zero jurisdiction over U.S. citizens. ICE is not law enforcement. And that is something that I want every single Democrat to repeat.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And that is something that I want the media to make very clear. ICE is not law enforcement. ICE is immigration enforcement. immigration enforcement does not have jurisdiction over American citizens. They do not have jurisdiction to dictate a traffic stop. They do not have jurisdiction to pull somebody out of their vehicle. And they, for fuck short, do not have jurisdiction or immunity to shoot a woman in the head as she's driving away. This ICE agent escalated the situation by stepping in front of the vehicle, by physically trying to physically assault Renee.
Starting point is 00:46:34 and then he turned around and murdered her in cold blood. And as opposed to doing the proper thing, which is said there will be a thorough investigation, there would be accountability and trying to distance themselves. They are cheerleading it on because they want to empower their white nationalist vigilante militia to go around and targeting anybody. And if you're a white person that gets away of their white nationalist agenda,
Starting point is 00:46:56 then y'all ass is grass too. That's why I've been calling this Trump crow. That's why I've been calling this Trump Crow, because it is not just an attack on black citizenship. It is an attack on every American that does not fall in line with the white nationalist billionaire, trillionaire agenda. And unfortunately, a woman who is a mother
Starting point is 00:47:17 who now leaves orphans behind has paid the ultimate price. She was not a radical. She was not a terrorist, which apparently, now of a sudden they recognized terrorism after just rewriting history on January 6th a couple days ago. now of a sudden they want to say that a person is escalating it as opposed to when they were blaming the cops
Starting point is 00:47:39 in January 6th couple days ago. So there's no intellectual consistency. The only thing that's consistent in here is cruelty is the point, depravity is the point, and white power is the point. What we're witnessing here, Noah's simple, and that is what Trump wants, he wants the TV show. This is all about a television show. It's all about, this is a live version of 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:48:04 The media budget for ICE is crazy. They've got their own cinematic cameras there, and they're dropping all of their creative videos. And so what they're saying to their white base, look at us. We are rounding these people up and throwing them out of the country. That's what all this is about. And listen, Fox News is driving the propaganda arm,
Starting point is 00:48:26 conservative talk radio, the digital people. That's what all this is. It is all about driving this whole notion, idea that we are running these brown people out of the country. And so you name it. So whether you are Somali, any African nation, if you are Venezuelan, Mexican, whatever, we're running these people out because we want this to be about it to be for us. It is absolutely about whiteness. Absolutely. It is performative strength. And this is what happens when you get a reality star. rolling down the escalator, you know, announcing his presidential aims and goals.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And so we have not left this horrible, horrible reality show that we are all forced not just to watch, but to also participate in. And, you know, I want to say something about the way that this administration, not just Trump 2.0, but also Trump 1.0, the way in which he uses terrorism. as a legal justification for enacting whatever sort of crude national security foreign policy this regime has in mind. And one of the reasons why I say that this is performative and to your point, Roland, when you look at statistics, the amount of folks that are being sent out of the country, the numbers are actually not that far apart from the last administration. So all of this performance, all it is fear of having the ICE officers and their gear, you know, and, you know, their guns and all of this stuff, it is definitely meant to scare communities and to compliance, right? This is not, these are not the acts of leaders who are America first because they shot an American in cold blood in her face for us all to see.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And for the folks that were so worried about Jasmine Crockett dropping the F-bomb, how do you think those kids felt when they saw all those videos on TikTok and Instagram? Because when I first saw that video yesterday, there was no warnings. Those kids that that congressman was so worried about hearing the F-bomb saw that lady get shot in her face and in her head. That's what I'm worried about. That's what I'm worried about the kids seen. I could care less if Jasmine Crockett is dropping the F-bomb. in Congress. More F-bombs need to be dropped in Congress. All of this is so upsetting, Roland.
Starting point is 00:51:04 You know, my week started off with the one-six hearings on the hill. They were emotional. I sat there and I watched Nancy Pelosi the entire time, Roland. I watched this woman sit there for hours while she listened to testimony, while she testified. And that woman got up there and she said, I still pray for Donald Trump. This man who has done everything in his power to make her life a living hell and the rest of us are our lives a living hell. So all of this is taking a collective toll and that's what I felt from Jasmine Crockett today. She said what we wanted to say. But the whole thing here, Greg, is again, it is this, that's also by design. It is to completely over, this is sensory overload. So whether it is this, it has Venezuela, it's, it's everything
Starting point is 00:51:53 that they're doing, every policy decision, Doge, the cuts, all of this sort of stuff. It is saying, we're going to wreck all of this. And I was texting an anchor, was texting someone who works for a network. And this person was saying how this is so hard for mainstream me to keep up. I said, no, no, actually it's not. I said, because if you got, I said, you got these 24-hour networks. I'm like, you know, y'all can talk about more than two or three things on one day.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Like, we don't have to have every show talk about the exact same thing. every hour for the whole day. And that's part of the deal. And so they know how media works. And so the show at the morning shows and the show at 9 a.m. and at 10 a.m. and 11 a.m. and noon and one, two, three, four, five, six, all the prime time shows are gonna be talking
Starting point is 00:52:43 about the exact same story in the same way as opposed to examining all of these different facets and how these people are undermining the Constitution, undermining democracy, how they are attacking different people and one of the greatest failures to what we see is a media that absolutely is abhorrent. You've got people who are hoaring themselves to do the bidding of Donald Trump. You've got these corporate interests who are all about their stock price and their other deals and their theme parts and their packaging companies and all the sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:21 They don't care. And so you used to have caretakers in media. The Salzburg is the New York Times and Catherine Graham at the Washington Post. And you had Paley at CBS. You had people Goldersen and ABC and Sarnoff at NBC. People who believe in the public trust, these posts kind of like, yeah, we don't want him looking at us because he's going to criticize us. That's right. That's right, Roland.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Is my sound okay? Can you all hear? Yeah, you're good. You're good. You're good. Just want to check. I'm very much encouraged by it. these events, not encouraged, of course, by the death of Ms. Good. That's a true tragedy.
Starting point is 00:54:05 You know, when you think about her, we may look back at this and put her in the same breath as Vyola Louiso or in Alabama or Andrew Goodman or Mickey Schwerner. Sometimes, unfortunately, white death is a trigger. And of course, this happened around a mile from where big George Floyd, of course, lost his life. But let's be crystal clear about this. Let me start with our Congress woman Jasmine Crockett, please don't cry. That's what they want. There's no reason to cry. There's no reason to cry because these are not human beings you're dealing with. There's nothing to appeal to. So let's get out of this whole idea that we can appeal to some greater moral sense. You just heard a purebred clown, a racist, tell the New York Times, the pliant New York Times
Starting point is 00:54:50 that the world now bends to his morality. Donald Trump doesn't have any morality. It's an oxymoron. What we have to do now is reframe the narrative. So I think... Greg, just give me one second. Just give me one second. I want you to finish that. This is from ABC News. And so two people have been shot by federal agents in Portland.
Starting point is 00:55:11 It says two people were shot by federal agents in Portland, Oregon on Thursday. Local and federal resources told ABC News, the FBI is responding to the scene. Federal agents involved in the shooting are with U.S. customs and border protection, not immigration and custom enforcement, according to sources. Craig, go ahead. Thank you, Roland. And of course they were, and there will be more. There will be more. They will join an indefensible piece of a human being, a little man whose little tiny manhood sheathed by cloth over the top third and bottom two-thirds of space. Jonathan Ross, as it is now being reported, USA Today, among other media sources over the last couple of hours,
Starting point is 00:55:50 it reported that the enforcement operations officer identified the killer of Ms. Good, is named Jonathan Ross. And this isn't the first time that he has assaulted other people. And this doesn't have anything to do with citizenship either, y'all. Let's stop using that. Let's stop reframing this in terms of it was a U.S. citizen. It was a human being. Let's just level set on that. But what I really want to, you know, us to spend a moment on, which is, again, why this platform is so important.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And why you should turn off all that commercial news, mass media entertainment. Crap. Is this. This is all part of a larger strategy, as we said, not just to intimidate, not just to Cal, but to set a set of forces in motion so that the response can then trigger another response. Let's go to the beer drinking Brett Kavanaugh on the United States Supreme Court, part of the MAGA 6. We saw a couple of weeks ago in the Trump v. Illinois case where they said you can't use the National Guard. Kavanaugh wrote a concurrence separately.
Starting point is 00:56:48 By the way, he also snuck a little footnote in his concurrence to say that you shouldn't be racially profiling. That's because he's mad because remember, case back in September, the Nome case, Knome versus Boscuiz Ferdomo, where he said you can racially profile thereby leading to a label that apparently he hates, which is why I'm going to repeat it now. We should burn it into our vocabulary, Kavanaugh stops. That's what they're doing now. You know, I'm going to stop you because you look a certain way. The Kavanaugh stops. He hates it. We'll go to hell, Bill Kavanaugh, Beer Kavanaugh. But he wrote a concurrence to to slip in something they're going to bring back around. And that is, even as the Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:57:23 said, six to three, they weren't going to pause the injunction that, won't allow Donald Trump to put the National Guard in Illinois and Oregon and California. Kevin, I wrote separately and said, but, you know, maybe there might be a way to evoke, I don't know, the Insurrection Act. See, what they want to do is put the U.S. military in these cities because they are engaged in a domestic war. Finally, let's pay particular attention to the fact that this strategy is designed completely pursuant to what that fool Steve Bannon said years ago, flood the zone with ish. In other words, we are now severing any ties with a standard that relies on facts. So what you hear the Ice Barbie, the Botox Barbie, cos playing with her cowboy hat on and then
Starting point is 00:58:16 today continuing it saying is there is no such thing as facts. What you hear that little Nazi Creighton Stephen Miller doing is saying that there is no such thing as facts. Kill everybody you want. They're all drug dealers. They're sex. They're messing with children. And then when you say, no, they're not, here's the evidence. They're like, yes. And let me say again, they're messing with children. We have to, we have to now change the narrative. Congresswoman Crockett, don't cry. Call them what they are, Klansmen, Nazis, and let's roll over their political backs and crush those political backs. You can't, you keep the, the rhetoric of reason has no place. in this. This is a war. They have declared war on human beings. And the response in a war is to fight back.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Folks, going to go to a break. We come back. We're going to talk to member of Congress. A lot of things happen on Capitol Hill today, including Democrats forcing Republicans to vote on a bill to restore affordable care act subsidies for three years. There's a bill by Congressman Lauren Underwood. We're going to talk about that. Also, Republicans have no, no courage whatsoever. They actually voted for two different bills. One of them dealing with, a water issue in Colorado. Trump, uh, the act Trump vetoed those two bills because he was pissed off at the
Starting point is 00:59:31 Republicans, uh, in one case, Lauren Bobert. And these fools wouldn't have rob the veto, but they pass unanimously. That's what happens when you have zero guts and zero courage. We'll be right back rolling out on my unfiltered on a black star network. Hatred on the streets. A horrific scene, white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence. White people are losing their their minds. There's an angry approach.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Trump, mob, storms the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Every time that people of color have made progress, progress whether real or symbolic there has been what Carol Anderson at every university calls white rage as a backlash this is the rise of the proud boys in the boogaloo boys America there's going to be more of this this country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people the fear that they're taking our jobs they're taking our resources they're taking our women this is white fear They said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are a threat. So they erased them.
Starting point is 01:01:26 After the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, Republican legislatures moved fast. New voter ID laws, polling place shutdowns, purges of black voters from the rolls. Trump's Justice Department didn't stop it, they joined in. In 2018, his DOJ backed Ohio's voter purge system, a scheme that disproportionately erased black voters. their goal, erase black votes and political power. Yeah, that happened. These are the kinds of stories that we cover every day on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Subscribe on YouTube and download the Black Star Network app.
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Starting point is 01:02:39 on Capitol Hill today. Democrats forced a vote on restoring the Affordable Care Act Subtodies. This was the tally right here. It was 230 to 196. 17 Republicans voted for the bill with the bill by Congresswoman Law and Underwood. I made a mistake
Starting point is 01:02:55 yesterday. I said her bill had one year or subsidy. It was actually three years with the subchities. Now it goes over to non-state Senate. There's no word or not it's going to actually pass over there, but it does put pressure on Republicans, especially those senators who are running for re-election because they're going to have to vote on this issue of restoring health care to their constituents. And you know what? You've got folks in North Carolina, in Georgia, in Iowa, in Texas, who are all impacted all around the country by this. And so guess what? They now are going
Starting point is 01:03:26 to have to deal with this. And so that was a huge, huge action taken today. Virginia Congressman James Walkinshaw, joins us right now. Congressman, glad to have you on the show. This was an effort, and this was a, first of all, a great move by Democrats. And I kept saying in 2025, the Democrats are out of sort trying to figure out how to respond to what's going on. And by, we saw with the Epstein files that discharge petition. Now, here you had an issue, the Republicans were vulnerable by Democrat using the discharge petition, you go bypass the communities, you bypass Speaker Johnson,
Starting point is 01:04:06 and you force them to actually vote on this. To me, there should be other affordability issue that Democrats should be eyeing in 2026 to force the same vote on other issues. You're absolutely the right, Roland. I mean, this was a big victory today. Credit to Congresswoman Underwood, leader, Hakeem Jeffries,
Starting point is 01:04:26 who really united Democrats around this fight for health care affordability. You know, we went through a shutdown where we kept the pressure on the Republicans to cancel their health care cuts. We took the argument to the American people across the country and highlighted the impact of allowing these tax credits to expire.
Starting point is 01:04:49 And we got a big victory today. And you're right, the Senate should be feeling some pressure right now. What they should do is take up the bill, the three-year clean extension, pass it and send it to press. President Trump's desk. It sounds like Republican leadership over there aren't going to do that, but that would be the smart thing for them to do. But you're absolutely right. We find other avenues
Starting point is 01:05:11 over the course of this year to force Republicans to come to the table and join us and trying to make life more affordable for the American people. I think one way we'll be able to do that is with these tariffs. We know that Trump's tariffs are driving up costs for. for hardworking families, especially lower moderate income families. Babes, what are you doing? What? I'm just mowing the lawn. No, it's blazing hot and dry out here. Don't you remember?
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Starting point is 01:06:31 So refreshing to have the press secretary. after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulation. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online in media and in politics with the Brad versus Everyone podcast. Hosted by me, Brad Palumbo. Every day of the week, I bring you on a wild ride who the most delulu takes on the internet, criticizing the extremes of both sides from an independent perspective.
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Starting point is 01:07:27 Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible, there's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. To spend more of their income on, you know, everyday goods and durable goods and the tariffs are driving up those costs. We have discharged petitions on a bunch of those tariffs and we're going to be pressure on Republicans to join us on those as well. Well, another issue that we saw take place, there were a couple of bills that Trump vetoed. And it was crazy. They were passed unanimously by the house. He vetoed. them. It was really a personal thing trying to get back at Republicans in this case. And then what
Starting point is 01:08:07 happened? And he did two-thirds vote. Well, 35 Republicans crossed. Two and 13 Democrats voted for it, but it didn't get the two-thirds vote. I mean, I keep saying that. Republicans in the House are cowards. It passes unanimously, but you don't want to embarrass your king. And so you don't pass these bills. So screw the people in Colorado in that Boebrot district when it comes to water issue and screw other Americans because you got a petty tyrant who's sitting in the Oval Office. Yeah, you know, I was on the floor from those votes and proudly voted twice to override the vetoes and I was watching the Republican side. And sometimes it's just embarrassing to watch them. You can see the fear in their eyes, the fear of Donald Trump. And, you know, what they need
Starting point is 01:08:55 to realize, and a handful of them are starting to realize Donald Trump doesn't give a damn about them. He doesn't care about their policy. priorities. He doesn't care about their political futures. Donald Trump only cares about Donald Trump, but a lot of them seemingly are going to go to their political graves with their arms wrapped around Donald Trump, hoping that he'll love them back someday, and he just ain't going to do it. So another action took place today. Now, again, we'll see what happens in the House, but on the Senate side, they actually voted, and several Republicans crossed the aisle and voted with the Democrats, limiting what Trump can do militarily in Venezuela.
Starting point is 01:09:36 It passed 52 to 47. Now, granted, we know do all gone well, he'll veto that. But that's a perfect example of, I mean, thank goodness, you have four or five Republicans who are understanding that Congress has authority. There are three branches of government. There's executive, legislative, and judicial. These folks are now realizing, guess what? You're supposed to use your power.
Starting point is 01:10:01 not let him do whatever he wants to do. That's right. Look, the action in Venezuela was flat out illegal violation of the Constitution. Huge credit to Senator Kane from Virginia for getting that more powers resolution moving in the Senate. We have a similar resolution that was introduced in the House today. It's a privileged resolution. So there will be a vote potentially next week on that in the House. And I'm hopeful, just like they had some Republicans in the Senate willing to break with Trump on this, that we'll have enough in the House.
Starting point is 01:10:36 We only need a couple. And you're right, Trump will veto it. But that's still a major, major development for Congress to send a war power's resolution restricting his authority to engage militarily with respect to Venezuela. Put that on his desk and force him to veto it. Very significant. I've got panelists here, one thing they have an opportunity to ask a question of you. Nola Haynes, your first.
Starting point is 01:11:03 What's your question for Congress and walking, Shaw? Thank you so much for doing the work that you all are tirelessly doing. So, you know, on the messaging side of things, there's always this kind of group of folks who feel like Dems aren't doing enough. And then I am one of those folks who understand, how legislation works. So I'm very curious. Besides health care, which I know is a very popular policy for Dems, what else can folks like us be out there messaging to Americans who are looking for
Starting point is 01:11:46 policies, not necessarily just anti-Trump everything, but that are looking for something forward, something else? So what else? In addition to health care should we be out there talking about? Yeah, I really appreciate the way you framed that. And, you know, I think as you described, there's a lot of folks out there that want to see Democrats in Congress fighting, have wanted to see more of that. I think we've been delivering that over the last couple of months, but, you know, my my dad was a boxer and he used to tell me, you know, the purpose of a fight is to win.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Sounds like a simple thing, but some people don't seem to get that. So we also have to find some fights like this healthcare fight that we can fight and win and deliver for the American people. I mentioned rolling back the tariffs. I think that's an important fight. You're right. That's an anti-Trump policy. But I think this year, as we look to go to the voters in November in the midterm elections, you will see congressional Democrats coalesce around a coherent, consistent agenda, around affordability. Yes, healthcare extending the tax credits, but also things that we as Democrats want to do,
Starting point is 01:13:00 which is bring down prescription drug prices, get us closer to universal affordable health care for every single American, a minimum wage, a real living wage for every single American, more rights for working people so they can organize, come together in the workplace and get the pay and benefits and conditions that they need and deserve. I think we just need to do the things that Donald Trump said he was going to do any campaign, when he said he was going to bring down costs for everyday Americans. He said he was going to deliver a better economy for working Americans. You and I know that was a lie when he said it, but a lot of Americans bought into it, and we got to actually take that out and deliver it in real ways.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Recy. Thank you, Congressman, for being here. You know, what I'm seeing is a lack of information like dashboards or something that's easy to kind of get your hands on to really explain the severity and the vastness of this situation. I think the Democrats did a really good job around the big beautiful bill and kind of messaging and even around the shutdown before messaging how these subsidies are going to impact everybody's prices. Is there anything in the works that you can think of that will have? help really bring this closer to home for people who maybe are not on Obamacare, who are not on the exchanges and who maybe feel like this is an issue that other people have to deal with that doesn't really impact them? Yeah, look, it's a huge challenge with health care because
Starting point is 01:14:39 our health care system is so complex in describing what different changes mean to different folks. I usually try to do it in the terms of, you know, by sharing stories less than statistics, in numbers. I talk about a constituent of mine who's here in Fairfax County, Virginia, 28 years old. He and his wife just welcomed their first child a couple months ago, so they're really excited for that. They get their health care from the Affordable Care Act exchange, and last year their premiums for the three of them, mom, dad, baby, was $800 a month, which is a lot of money, but they could afford it with some scrimping. This year, because of the expiration of the tax credits and other things Republicans have done to drive up health care costs,
Starting point is 01:15:27 their premiums are $1,600 a month, and they can't afford that. So dad doesn't have health insurance as of today so that they can pay for it for mom and their new baby. And those are the choices that Americans are making. So I think those stories that folks can relate to are probably the most effective way for us to drive the importance of this issue home. Rick. Thank you, Roland. And thank you, Congressman, Arkansas. We saw, of course, that you and your colleagues moved some legislation, some of the appropriation legislation today, kind of, you know, trying to forestall or prevent some of the stuff that might hit at the end of the month and perhaps another government shutdown. My question is pretty basic. How much do you think that Mike Johnson's very tenuous grip?
Starting point is 01:16:19 We saw him scurrying out of the chamber after another vote that he couldn't prevent. today. How much do you think his very tenuous grip on the speaker's gavel might be used as an asset by you and your colleagues to try to break up this Republican solidarity? I'm saying that because we know that there are the open seats in Texas and California, the death of your colleague, of course, Lamarfa. Taylor Green's seat has up for, of course, election and of course there's Mickey Sherrill Seek in New Jersey. Are some of your folks on the other side of the aisle, perhaps, Are they more vulnerable for you all to basically push and push and push at them to perhaps get some of them to chip away? And perhaps maybe might we be looking at a Speaker Jeffries long before November if this continuing fracture keeps up and some of these people step out of Congress sooner rather than later.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Yeah, you know, you really honed in on a critical dynamic here. And, you know, before I get into the possibility of a, you know, change in power before the elections, you know, as, you know, as you, I think, hinted at, Speaker's tenuous control, not just his narrow, very narrow majority, but the fact that, look, literally even at the White House where it's been reported, Trump laughs at Speaker Johnson, he's viewed as a very weak leader, that gives Democrats a lot of leverage. And I think you see that in the appropriations bills three that were passed today, that rejected a lot of what was in. Donald Trump's budget that he sent, that added protections for federal agencies and federal
Starting point is 01:17:58 workers, a lot of whom that I represent, because Republicans are afraid of another shutdown, because they know what it did to Donald Trump's polling numbers. We have a lot more leverage in those conversations and those debates and negotiations that we did last year. And you're absolutely right. I mean, given the narrowness of his majority, you know, if you have, more resignations, a couple more resignations or anyone switching parties or, you know, God forbid, any other, you know, significant life event on the Republican side, you could have an evenly divided house or even a narrow Democratic majority. We will have another special election in Texas that's likely a Democratic seat later this month. So we'll be adding a Democratic seat.
Starting point is 01:18:51 You mentioned former Congresswoman, now Governor Cheryl, as well. So a lot of moving pieces and it could be a very unpredictable year in the House of Representatives. Congressman Walker, so the last point I want to make here. And just tell me if you agree with this or not, and that is this. There were a lot of people who disagree with me and others. And they said, oh, that I was wrong to support the Democrats' action when it came to the federal government shutdown. And I said then Democrats should not lift a finger. they should force Republicans to do their job.
Starting point is 01:19:25 And I fundamentally believe that what the shutdown did was it, I think what it woke Democrats up. It finally caused Democrats to find a singular issue. And also I think probably right before that was happening with the Epstein files. Those two things, the Epstein files and that discharge petition and the shutdown forced Democrats to look at, look at what people were talking about and the issues. And what he did was it gave Democrats time to refine a health care message. Tap into it, bill resonance, where Republicans, independents were like,
Starting point is 01:20:03 yo, what the hell is going on? And so while that was happening, you take the tariffs as well, how it's impacting all of these white conservative farmers in areas where they voted 65, 70, 75% percent for Trump. And so the shutdown in many ways gave you, gave House Democrats in the Senate, you're a sea legs. And so now I think the thing is, how do you build upon that? Do you sort of agree with that? I think you're absolutely right. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:32 I was in a similar place debating with people before the shutdown. And I told people, look, the American people, if there's a shutdown, as ultimately there was, the idea that the American people won't blame Donald Trump for that shutdown was absurd. Donald Trump spent most of the year 2025 shutting down the federal government. I mentioned I represent 60,000 federal employees. Every neighborhood I represent, you have folks who have been fired by Donald Trump who worked in federal agencies, entire agencies that were shut down by Trump before the technical shutdown that we had. So I knew that voters would blame Donald Trump, right? He's the guy that hates the federal government. Of course, he'd be very willing to shut it down if he doesn't get what he wants in terms of his cuts to
Starting point is 01:21:27 the health care system. And I felt like, look, you know, I didn't want to see a shutdown. My constituents, some of them went without paychecks through the shutdown. But Republicans made no effort to reach out to Democrats like me in those negotiations or conversations to say, hey, we don't have the votes on the Republican side. So we're going to need your vote. What's important to your constituents that we can consider here in this process? They just made no effort to do that. So I think you're absolutely right. It allowed Democrats to highlight the health care issue. It helped to unify us. And the country correctly blamed Donald Trump and Republicans for it.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Well, all right, then. The economy spent walking show. We appreciate you joining us on the show. look forward to having you back. Thanks, Roland. Have a great night. Thanks a bunch, folks. We come back. Ooh, the racism, the white supremacy of Megan Kelly and Elon Musk is on full display.
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Starting point is 01:24:41 They said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are a threat. So they erased them. After the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, Republican legislatures moved fast. New voter ID. laws, polling place shutdowns, purges of black voters from the rolls. Trump's Justice Department didn't stop it, they joined in. In 2018, his DOJ backed Ohio's voter purge system, a scheme that disproportionately erased
Starting point is 01:25:10 black voters, their goal, erase black votes and political power. Yeah, that happened. These are the kinds of stories that we cover every day on Roland Martin unfiltered. Subscribe on YouTube and download the Black Star Network app. support fact-based independent journalism that centers African Americans and the issues that matter to our community. If in this country right now, you have people get up in the morning, and the only thing they can think about is how many people they can hurt, and they've got the power, that's the time for mourning.
Starting point is 01:25:53 For better or worse, what makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority. we are at a point of a moral emergency. We must raise a voice of outrage. We must raise a voice of compassion. And we must raise a voice of unity. We are not in a crisis of party versus party. We are in a crisis of civilization,
Starting point is 01:26:24 a human rights crisis, and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what? You've been chosen to me. make sure that those that would destroy, those that would hate, don't have the final say, and they don't ultimately win. Boy, you can always count on white folks showing us exactly who they are. Now, we've always known who Megan Kelly is.
Starting point is 01:27:07 She made her comment on Fox News that Santa Claus was and is always white. But she made her blackface comment, not seeing anything wrong with that on NBC Today Show. We all knew that. Well, since she got her independent show, you know, she got paid $69 million after she got fired to NBC, launched their own show, and oh, my God, oh, Sirius XM Radio, Souther, 2, New Deal. She's launched the media company. Oh, man, she's a darling of the right, and she's going as hardcore right as she possibly can, white and right. She did an interview with Tucker Carlson, they were talking about Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 01:27:43 The self-acknowledged, self-acknowledged. Racist, white supremacists, anti-Semitic individual, misogynist. What the hell else we want to call him? This is the guy who Kanye West took to Mar-Lago to have lunch with Donald Trump. Yep, Trump had lunch with him. This is the guy who the CEO of the Heritage Foundation said, we've got to have this kind of person in the party. So listen to what Megan said to Dr. Carlson.
Starting point is 01:28:14 I had no problem with the fact that you interviewed Nick Fuentes. And you did it your way. And I happen to know because I know you. And I know some other things about that interview that you did it with a pure heart. It wasn't because you were in love with... The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear? I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.
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Starting point is 01:30:44 On the right, we don't judge people by identity. We don't, you didn't say it this way, but we don't, we're not big on the N word and the other words that he's been calling people like Ushah Vance or even thinking about people that way because that's what crazy leftists do with identity. That's not what we as Christians do. Okay, so that you tried. It didn't really work, but you tried. And I know your heart was in the right place and it was a worthwhile exercise because he's a very interesting guy. Let's face it. He's obviously got some very extreme views, but he's very interesting and he's very smart.
Starting point is 01:31:16 And on a lot of things, there is value to be derived from that guy's messaging. I'm sorry, but he actually has a lot of things he talks about that you're like, is it not a bad point about our country? I excuse his thoughts on race and Jews and the Holocaust and all that, obviously. Okay. So I was fine with your interview with Nick Fuentes. Oh, he has such great things to say, oh, well, you know, let's excuse a little racist thing. Let's excuse the anti-Semitic things.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Let's excuse the sexist thing. But got some great ideas. Oh, my God. He's a really interesting guy. Well, even the folks on the right were savaging her ass. This is a media-a-story story right here, where one of them called her Grandma Groyper, Megan Kelly Savage, for singing the praises of Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 01:32:05 And you go through this article. It lays out all those different people, John Potter's. Megan Kelly has rotted to the core. And for what, not even wails. Then if you keep going, you'll see Benjamin, this dude, Ben Dominique, he's married to the insufferable, Megan McCain. If you think Nick Fuentes is brilliant, I'm honestly impressed that you have enough brain function to remember to breathe. Then you go down here, Dave Rubin, great move for Grandma Groper to attach herself to Fuentes and Candace, meaning Owens.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Is there anything she won't do for a click? Find out tomorrow. Then let's see here, yeah, it was this guy, Ian Miles Cheong called her grandma Groyper. And this other guy said, did she praise him for making the trains run on time? That's a reference to Nazis and Jews in Germany. Oh, this other person says, there it is. Some of us were so ahead of the curve here and got bash for it, but it was always obvious to anyone willing to see. Well, we also knew it as well as black people.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Again, I don't think Megan Kelly is anti-Semitic, but she knows what she needs. doing in the crowd she's trying to appeal to and placate. She's always been awful, always. She's just decided to descend lower and lower because her belief that it will financially pay off. This person here said, the drill ISIS tweet, but for internet Nazis. Oh, this black conservative here, I'm starting to understand how the permission structure, which enabled the Holocaust, came into being so many formerly reasonable people have decided to side with Nazis because it's easier and more expedient. This person says here, when if our culture returns to a certain level of sanity, if ever, you must make sure that the people who drop their mask are not allowed to
Starting point is 01:33:53 put them back on and carry on as if nothing happened. This person said, hmm, this is quoting Nick Fuentes, Hitler did some good things. And then let's see here. Megan Kelly has actually decided that she's done with the 90% of the normally Republican base. And for some reason, it's now in love and courting the 10% Gwer, loathsome subculture, Godspeed. This guy here, Steve Gess said, Unreal. This person says, Kelly insists there's a lot of value to be derived from Fuentes' messaging. Is she referring to his exaltation of Hitler, his denial of the Holocaust, his insistent that Jewish Americans are conspiratorial traders who deserve to be annihilated? Or does none of that matter?
Starting point is 01:34:35 Let's see one more. It was never actually about sure you may disagree with him, but unity and don't cancel people. It was always about, quote, don't criticize the Stalin-loving Nazi I agree with. Megan Kelly basically followed the groport trail already blazed by Michelle Malkin. Let's see, any more of what? They were just going in on her. Now, those are all right-wingers there. But you got to understand, y'all.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Racism is the point. Racism is the key. Who they are appealing to. Let's take Elon Musk. Now, we know apartheid Elon. It's absolutely all about white supremacy. All he does is talk about on Twitter the fertility rates of white people, how they're collapsing in Europe and in the Western countries. He ain't talking about black people or Latinos.
Starting point is 01:35:22 He's not talking about African countries. He's talking about white people. Well, Elon was just being his usual self. Check this out. So he's on his racist app. And then this person tweeted, white people have a simple choice to make, be conquered and slave, raped and genocided while being called racist, reclaim our nations and our dignity while being called racist. It's that simple. This guy, a non-patriots said the two options are clear. Elon Musk said, yes. Then check this out. This guy tweeted, if white men become a minority, we'll be slaughtered. Remember, if non-whites openly hate white men while white men hold a collective majority, then they will be 1,000 times more hostile and cruel when they are a majority over whites. White solidarity is the only way to survive.
Starting point is 01:36:13 That's what this particular person tweeted. Well, Elon said 100%. But that same thread, say, I went to this person's thread. This is what this same person said in the thread. Jews love casting nigaboo women as the wise ones among whites in TV. and movies, total inversion of reality meant to degrade white's common sense. Did I not tell y'all this four years ago? What did I say?
Starting point is 01:36:53 White fear, how the browning of America is making white folks lose their minds? See, here's the deal. This is the reality. And Pat Buchanan actually said this, that absolute racist. He said it two or three decades ago. And if you read Mitch Landrieu's book, and in fact, I did the interview with Mitch Landrieu, we're going to pull that clip where we talked about it. Mitch Landry put in his book and he said, so Pat Buchanan said that, oh, if they become a majority, they're going to do to us what we did to them. Mitch Landrieu wrote, white people, they're not going to do to us what we did to them because black people have more humanitarian.
Starting point is 01:37:41 and they're far more Christian than we are. What you have to understand with this Megan Kelly move, what Elon is doing, you have to ask, why are they appealing so hardcore to whiteness? Well, that's what Trump did at the moment. He descended those escalators. He was pressing the buttons of whiteness. He was understanding white fear.
Starting point is 01:38:05 And so let's blame blacks. Let's blame Latinos. Let's blame these African immigrants. Oh my God, let's blame the Jews. Let's blame one of the because this is what the Republican Party needs. And this is why Megan Kelly is saying this about Nick Fuentes. This is why Tucker Carlson sat down with him. This is why the Heritage Foundation, the people behind the credit 2025 embracing Nick Fuentes because Nick Fuentes
Starting point is 01:38:31 appeals to young white men. These are the young white men who feel discarded. These are the young white men who feel discarded. These are the young white men who feel that DEI has took their place in society. And so they know that if they want to be able to win in the future, they've got to have young white men who are racially polarized to keep voting their way. That's what's going on. So you get young white men, you get white women, and you get them voting at higher rates, and if white people are voting at higher rates, and black people are voting at lower rates,
Starting point is 01:39:12 and Latinos are voting at lower rates, and then now you've got voter suppression, all these things going in, they say if fewer people vote, then we know we can vote. But this is not new. This has long been their strategy. Because folks, if you understand history, and we've discussed this on the show before,
Starting point is 01:39:34 that was the point, the Southern Baptist Convention did not oppose abortion. In fact, they passed the resolution that was pro-choice. But see, they were appealing to racism to get those Southern evangelicals to vote against their own interests, the vote against black people. But then all of a sudden, damn, the Jim Crow thing really wasn't working as well as it was. And so that's when they flipped, Paul Weirich, they flip to, let's make abortion the issue. But the undercurrent of the Southern Evangelicals is still racism. So whiteness has always prevailed. So when Megan Kelly goes, oh, oh, we don't do like those leftists and look at people, yes, you do. Oh, yes, you do. Y'all look at color,
Starting point is 01:40:25 y'all look at gender. And Megan, you a liar. And Tucker, you a liar as well. Yes, y'all do. Because you know who gave us the goods? Lee Atwater. You know when those audio tapes were revealing, Lee Atwater said, yeah, we can't, we can't use the N-word. We can't use those things like we used to. So we can use other phrases that say the exact same thing and appeal to our voters in the same way. We just can't say colored. We don't have the separate water fountains. Oh, but we are, they're phrased. as we can use, such as this is not Lee Atwater, but this is essentially Lee Atwater 2.0.
Starting point is 01:41:13 If we just say woke, if we say CRT, if we say DEI, same meaning, same goal, different words. So it's no shock that we're seeing what we're seeing. And we're seeing the races being who they are. Stephen Miller, white supremacist, I don't care what his wife says. nutcase too. It's about race. And what I've been telling y'all, they want to defund Black America. They want to go after everything. So when you have one of these truly confused Negroes walking around in a Maga hat trumpeting Trump, do understand you've always had confused Negroes. Remember, we had folks on plantation.
Starting point is 01:42:05 who told Massa when black folks were trying to run away. We had black people who were informing and snitching on black people to the FBI and co-intel pro. We've always had Negroes like that. And it still exists. But you know what happens? They all get their Negro wake-up call. Asked by Vitt Ramoswami. Oh, he's gotten his brown-skinned wake-up call for the racism he's endured running for governor of Ohio.
Starting point is 01:42:42 And speaking, who wants to take him out? Who literally said, let's support the white Democratic candidate over Ramoswami? Nick pointed. See, even the Republican Party's colors get their colored wake-up call. Let's go to my panel. Greg, I'll start with you. Well, I'm listening to you. I mean, you've laid it out. You've laid it out. And even as we get news from Ohio that that little naughty white nationalist Mike Duane is endorsed Ramoswami, we understand that the floating signifier in all this, as you have said, is race. It was interesting. I was trying to remember. Of course, we remember 2022, the three-part series in the New York Times on the white American, the American white nationalist, Tucker.
Starting point is 01:43:38 or Carlson, at least one of the headlines, if memory serves me correctly, pursuant to what you just laid out, including the title of your book, is that Carlson was tapping into white fear. And this is where it becomes very important for us to reframe the narrative, as I was saying a minute ago. White nationalism is the mother's milk of white politics in this country, regardless of the political commitments other than white nationalism. It is the mother's milk. It is what has driven the Democratic Party crazy since the apex of the civil rights movement chasing imaginary white voters.
Starting point is 01:44:19 It is what has hamstrung the commercial mass news entertainment media. Instead of saying white, they have to say blue collar. Instead of white, they have to say working class. Instead of white, they say conservative. No, it's all whiteness. So when you hear Megan Kelly, a white nationalist, just referring in in conversation with Tucker Carlson or white nationals. That isn't surprising.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Of course, as you said, the great replacement theory, you hear that as well. But when you hear Jesse Ventura, oh, my friends, when you hear Jesse Ventura, who came to prominence, and in many ways foreshadowed Donald Trump as a clown becoming a chief executive officer, you could say whether it was Ventura or his wrestling buddy Schwarzenegger, either way. But when you hear Jesse Ventura say, maybe I'll run for a third term. We're a third world country. Hold on, dude. You said those things in the same phrase.
Starting point is 01:45:07 What does that mean? You're still trying to tap into the imagery of the threat of the rising tide of color, even as folks might say in this moment, you're against Trump, like you were against the Confederate flag and maybe the Redskins nickname, but you want the votes of those white nationals. Finally, the solution to this isn't continuing to use the same language. As Malcolm X said, you're speaking a language. which they don't understand. You've got to frame this and ironically, or maybe it's an ancestral intervention. When you see Renee Nicole Good lose her life, you got to frame this as good versus evil.
Starting point is 01:45:45 And if you go to war and a tear happens to fall out of your eye while you're swinging your sword like Congresswoman Crockett, fine. But there should be no tears when you are combating evil. This is good versus evil. And anybody who taps into whiteness as the mother's milk of your politics. I don't care what your other politics are. You're somebody who has to be fed, at best fed out of a long handle spoon. At worst, you must be politically destroyed. And that's what we have to be today. Noah. You know, I want to talk to the Christians tonight. But let me start here, Greg, about Crockett's tears. I am one of these women. I don't cry a lot. But if I do, it's usually out of frustration. And probably I'm using it.
Starting point is 01:46:34 it as a device so I won't get up out of my chair and come and do you some physical harm. I didn't see her tears as kind of like a weak thing for her to do or that she was crying for something more than I saw it as her protecting her kind of like emotionality. You know what I mean? That's what I got from that. So thinking about her level of emotionality, I get upset. when these folks invoke Christianity. Because any version of Christianity that I know,
Starting point is 01:47:13 and when I say I know, I know from Greek to New English to the modern Bible, I'm not talking about, you know, picking up your little pocket Bible and you read a few proverbs. That's not what I'm talking about here. When I hear these people invoke Christianity, when I hear them wrap their racism, light their casual racism in the cloak of Jesus, that bothers me when they themselves do not even want to confront the fact that we are talking about a brown man from the Middle East because they
Starting point is 01:47:53 have completely erased the reality of his actual lived life, of his actual lived life that was dedicated to the poor. Let's not forget that. That is what Reverend Barbara always reminds us of. So every single time when I hear one of these racists wrap this in a Christian cloth, I get angry. I get offended and every single Christian should. Racy. Well, I'll just say this, that these white racists are boring. They're redundant. It's very, very played out. I'm actually sick of them. I don't know how it's entertaining. They got the same script over and over again.
Starting point is 01:48:42 These racists are going to be evil. They're going to rape plunder and pillage regardless. So if they want to sit up there and try to act like they're doing it because they're scared, that's bullshit. But if they are in fact scared, as
Starting point is 01:48:56 they are empowered, as they are again pillaging and plundering the world, then good. Because you should not be allowed to sleep well. You should not be allowed to have an easy spirit doing the kind of demonic evil that they're doing. Regardless of your power structure, you should not be able to go about your day without looking over your shoulder as some of these fuckers are living in military housing. Good. That means that they are not comfortable. And that's the one small
Starting point is 01:49:33 consolation in it. Now, they don't get a cookie for not being comfortable. They shouldn't be comfortable. But I'm actually happy to hear that even amongst all of the carnage that they caused, that they, it's still ain't sitting right with them. Because I'll tell you what. If I had money like Elon, I would be fucking chilly.
Starting point is 01:49:49 You wouldn't have a little bit of distress in my voice ever at any point. I wouldn't be retweeted no bullshit. I'll be out somewhere meditating, popping bottles, on a yacht somewhere. Might of my fucking business. Feeding the homeless. So the amount of distress that these people feel on day-to-day basis is the only consolation that we have for the fact that they are depraved, demons,
Starting point is 01:50:10 barbarians that we are forced to coexist with on this world. And unfortunately, there aren't many indications that people are willing to stop them. Like Donald Trump said, and actually, that might be the truth for now. We'll see how long. The only thing stopping him is within his mind. And that seems to be the only thing stopping any of these people until the white. people that their white lives don't matter because they don't have the income, they don't have the class, they don't have the whatever the fuck, until those white people decide to side with humanity in the way that Renee Good did and the way that Heather Heyer did in a way that many others have done that have been victims of white supremacy even though they're white and white nationalism even though they're white. Until enough of those people rise up and survive, they're rising up against this white nationalism, then all we can do. do is take solace in the fact that they're very uncomfortable with what they're doing
Starting point is 01:51:07 and that they don't think that they should be getting away with it and they're shocked every single day that something hasn't happened to them that proves them right. Folks, before I go to the break, I love it when you have a district attorney who has, who doesn't give a damn. Larry Krasder held a news conference. You know Fox News is prompt-shopping this. The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we We asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear? I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards
Starting point is 01:51:47 success. Listening is a form of love. Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well-being at soundedouttogether.org. That's sounded outtogether.org. Brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal. The social media trend that's landing some Gen Z is in jail. The progressive media darling whose public meltdown got her fired. I'm going to take Francesco off the network entirely.
Starting point is 01:52:14 The massive TikTok boycott against Target that makes no actual sense. I will continue getting stuff from Target. And I will continue to not pay for it. And the MAGA influencers, whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment. So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulate. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things. happening online in media and in politics with the Brad versus Everyone podcast hosted by me,
Starting point is 01:52:44 Brad Palumbo. Every day of the week, I bring you on a wild ride through the most delulu takes on the internet, criticizing the extremes of both sides from an independent perspective. Join in on the insanity and listen to the Brad versus Everyone podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is, You can decide who takes home the 26 IHard Podcast Awards podcast of the year by voting at IHartPodcastawards.com now through February 22nd. See all the nominees and place your vote at IHartPodcastawards.com. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. to the ICE agents. If you bring your ass to Philadelphia and you show your ass and act of fool, you are going to get convicted. I want to play this before we go to the break. If any law enforcement agent, any ICE agent is going to come to Philly to commit crimes,
Starting point is 01:53:56 then you can get the F out of here. Because if you do that here, I will charge you with those crimes. You will be arrested. you will stand trial. You will be convicted, whether it's in state or federal court, it's my office prosecuting it. That's how the law works. And you will do your time because Donald Trump cannot pardon you for a state court conviction. Do you hear me, ICE agents?
Starting point is 01:54:30 Do you hear me, National Guard? Do you hear me military? You're going to jail if you commit crimes in the city of Philadelphia. You will be accountable. The law applies to all of you. And I know that there are honest, decent, moral law enforcement officers out there by the bushel, including in ICE. This is not for you. This is for any one of your colleagues who thinks they are above the law.
Starting point is 01:55:06 The shorter version, that is F-A-F-O. That's my adopted hometown right there, baby. But let's be clear, it's a lot of rogue-ass cops who are on the city forces, too, who are with these cats. So Krasner is walking on Razors' Edge, particularly in a city like Philadelphia, where the ghost of the funky, double racist Frank Rizzo still west through the air of South Philadelphia. But Roland and Riesie and Nola, that's what you have to say. Period. That white boy right there that killed Nicole Good, Renee, Nicole. cold good. That white boy Jonathan
Starting point is 01:55:43 Ross, his ass should have been wrestled to the ground and handcuffed by the Minneapolis police. And until that happens, that's where we are. Well, I mean, if we have a constitutional crisis already, so set it up. Let's go. You have, they are coming to democratically
Starting point is 01:56:01 led cities, pulling the puck cards of these Democratic-led cities and states. Use your jurisdiction. Colorado, Remember how they removed Donald Trump from the ballot and took a Supreme Court to put his ass back on? Let's have this battle now.
Starting point is 01:56:19 We're talking the fucking midterbs. That's eight, not ten more months of them wreaking havoc. And then you got to January until you get a whole new motherfucker this morning. We cannot depend on Republicans to grow fucking conscience or a spine. So set it up. If you lose, who gives a damn? Y'all willing to do fucking philosophical and rhetorical and fights just for the sake of saying that we're fighting,
Starting point is 01:56:43 now was the time. Prosecute these motherfuckers, arrest them, and then let the court sort it out. That's what you do. Just like they have no problem. They're prosecuting LaMonica McIver. They prosecuted that judge who ended up having resign. She got convicted because of immigration.
Starting point is 01:57:00 Let's have this battle now. Step up and let's duke it out with what you can do. And then force the Supreme Court or force whatever court to say, yes, that this administration can continue to act lawlessly. So far, they haven't been saying that, even though they gave Trump immunity. They haven't been saying that about other things. So now is the time. I don't know, now it's not the time.
Starting point is 01:57:22 I don't know when the time is going to be. But it will need to start having this battle now. And Congressman Seth Moulton went on Will Kane show on Fox News. You talk about energy? This is the kind of energy you got to bring when you are in a battle. Oman, talking about. Tom Homan. You accused him of lying. You said in your words that what happened was not self-defense. This was murder. Speaking of the ICE incident in Minneapolis, the words are on the screen for anybody that wants to see that.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Series of questions. Have you interviewed the officer, the ICE agent involved in this shooting? No, but I've watched the video. Why are you so afraid to show the video? No, no, I know you've watched the video. No, no, I know you've watched the video. Have you seen law enforcement reports? Have you, have you, have you? What does you just show it and let people use it or not? See, toe wheel. Show the video. Show the video. See? You got to bring, as we said, you got to bring the phone. This said, you, Risi, you know, you can't reason with these people. You can't sit here. You can't pray with them.
Starting point is 01:58:20 You can't find common ground. No, you got, you got the rain, holy hell on that ass, every single chance you can get. That's what you got to do. It's simple as that. I got to go to a quick break. Reset, no, you got to go. I appreciate to be on today's show. Y'all listen to Reese every Saturday on Sears XM Radio.
Starting point is 01:58:35 We come back, our shop, Blackstar Network, marketplace segment. And then, of course, we got headlines with Brittany Noble. You're watching Rolla Martin on the Filtredaum of Black Star Network. Welcome to the other side of change, only on the Black Star Network and hosted by myself, Ria Baker, and my good sis, Jamira Burley. We are just two millennial women tackling everything at the intersection of politics, gender, and pop culture.
Starting point is 01:59:20 And we don't just settle for commentary. This is about solution-driven dialogue to get us to the world as it could. and not just as it is. Watch us on the Black Star Network, so tune in to the other side of change. White supremacy is quote the most persistent and lethal threat in the homeland. The greatest terrorist threat to the homeland is the home ground violence, including hate crime committed on behalf of some kind of white supremacist ideology. They are coming after everything in Black America.
Starting point is 01:59:58 Maga and Donald Trump are specifically targeting Black America. They are going after the money. Attack black lives, attack critical race, attack war, DEI. Magna wants to defund Black America. This is a perfect example of their desire to completely degrade and be emphasized black people. What's up? It's your girl, Tamika D. Mallory, and you are watching The Black Star Network. Folks, there's been a lot of lawsuits saying that a lot of hair products are unsafe, especially for women.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Well, one mother was looking for the right products, so for her and her children. So she created Lox sanity. Charmaine Jones created this company, a natural hair, care, and personal brand, offering more than 60 plant-based formulations designed to nourish and support both locks and loose natural hair. Charmaine joins us now from Coral Springs, Florida. Shameen, glad to have you here. And so, all right, like 60 different ones. So how did you put all of this together?
Starting point is 02:01:39 I mean, did you have a chemistry background that you, where you're Googling stuff and going on YouTube? How did you start and create Loxandy? I can't hear you. Is she muted? Is she muted? Because I can't hear her. Kenan, let me know.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Yeah, I think you're moving. All right. Can you hear me now? Now we got you. Yeah, yes. Thank you for having me, Roland. First and foremost, I don't know if you remember, but I had an opportunity to meet you at the Hope conference a couple years ago.
Starting point is 02:02:18 And so I'm glad that, you know, things have come full circle and I'm here to spend some time with you today. Cool. Cool, cool. I'm sorry. Go ahead. And I said, cool. Go ahead. All right. So as far as how I came up with Laxanity, it was really, really quite an adventure that I went on. I actually came from corporate America. I spent about 25 years working in a variety of different industries. And in corporate America, everything from manufacturing to software. And so the, the question that you asked, you know, how does someone end up, you know, making a lock, lock hair care products? It's a combination of the background that I had, but it really comes down
Starting point is 02:02:59 to when I have three children, two girls and a boy. And when my oldest daughter hit, you know, middle school and, you know, she's going through the time where she's trying to figure out who she is and, you know, what her definition of beauty is. And at the time, I was working in corporate America, high level position and I wore my hair very, very straight, similar to what it is now, but it was not in its natural state. It was permed hair. And so every single day, Alicia would see me get dressed and, you know, I'd put on my best Kamala Harris suit and, you know, I would, you know, lay my hair down and everything and just look very, very corporate and very, very polished in her eyes. And so she started to aspire to that beauty standard. Now I remember one day
Starting point is 02:03:47 middle school, she came home one day and she said, you know, I want my hair to be straight like yours. And when I say, Roland, that just absolutely broke my heart because here I am trying to teach this beautiful, beautiful girl about how beautiful she is, about how beautiful her kinks and her curls and you know, her afro and her afro puffs and her loose natural, how all of this is beautiful. And she was seeing me every single day getting dressed, straightening my hair, putting on my suit. She was seeing that as the beauty standard. And so it was at that point, I decided, you know what, I'm going to start living in the truth that I'm preaching. And I converted over to my loose natural and eventually into locks.
Starting point is 02:04:30 Now, when I got locks, that's when it really started to become fun. Because at the time, this was back in 2017, I could not find good natural plant-based products. And so I did what most black women will do when you're trying to find. find something you problem solve. And so I started making my own products in my kitchen at nights and weekends. And fast forward, I got a few products that were working really, really well. And, you know, I'm talking to my husband about the challenges. And, you know, how come no one has ever, you know, come up with this? And how come there's none of these products available? And, you know, we decide, you know what? Well, maybe the world's waiting on
Starting point is 02:05:11 you. Maybe you're the reason, you're the one that everything has been waiting for. And so I started working with an organic chemist to formulate my ingredients, my formulas, and just come up with some amazing products. And every single one of these products that you do see
Starting point is 02:05:29 are they came out of a need. They came out of a need that I had. They came out of a need that friends had, that family members had, and everything has just all been a labor of love, something that I created for myself, for my family, for my loved ones.
Starting point is 02:05:46 Wow, that's cool there. And you started when? 2017 is when we started? 2017. So now you're in your ninth year and how has it grown? Oh, it's grown exponentially. So at the time when I first started the company, I did mention I was working in corporate America. And at the time, I was working with an e-commerce company. And I was working full time. Very demanding job. I was in director and director-level positions. So I was in charge of their man their warehousing, their customer care, just had a huge, huge umbrella.
Starting point is 02:06:23 And so I was working 80 hours a week. And then I would come home on nights, weekends, holidays. Anytime that I had a free moment, I would work on Laxanity. Fast forward a couple years, the company started to hit a little bit of a rough patch. And being that I was one of those folks that was well paid, they said, you know what, Charmaine, we're going to part ways with you. And that's when things. really took off because I was able to take my 25 years of experience in manufacturing and
Starting point is 02:06:52 software and IT and I was then able to pour all of it into this little baby that I had created Locksandity. Wow, that's cool there. There's questions from my panel. Nolan, what you got? Hey, so thank you. Where can, are the products, okay, I'm assuming that they're in, you know, you can buy them online, but yes. No, you can buy their. The products are available at shop blackstar network.com, Noah. This is the shop black. It's a new year.
Starting point is 02:07:30 No, no, this is the shop blackstar network.com segment. Thank you. So the products are available at shop blackstarnetwork. Thank you. Thank you. In addition, in addition, are your products available in a and mortar store somewhere in addition in addition so in addition to being able to get them here you are able to of course get them in some of the more traditional e-commerce options of course also our
Starting point is 02:07:59 website and we do have quite a few beauty supply store also locktitions that do carry our products in brick and mortar stores across the country about two years ago we had been accepted to be inside of walmart and then the current administration happened And they got rid of DEI and we were chopped. We were left on red, no responses, no emails, nothing else. And you know what? I think it's for the best because now we've been able to really look at a lot of different options. And one of our favorite folks to work with are the mom and pops, the black-owned mom and pops,
Starting point is 02:08:37 because we tried to give them the same margins that they would have gotten had we sold to Walmart. And so they're able to really push our stuff, make an amazing profit on all of our products, and we're getting good quality products into the hands of our people. And so it's a complete win-win for us. And so for the folks watching, Nola as well, that when you buy LockSandie from shop, blackslout network.com, you're supporting them, but you're also supporting the show as well. Greg. Thank you, Roland.
Starting point is 02:09:15 And Nola as well. And Sister James, it's always a delight in this segment to see black-owned businesses that are serving our people, not only providing products we want, but products we need. And this, again, Loxanity is another one in that string, in that chain. Along the lines of what Nola has just asking, what you just said, in fact, because of your background and your experience dealing with systems and understanding, systems. How important is it to have that critical mass of black institutions and black networks? I'll tell you why I asked you that question. The other day, I was in the mall. I went over there to pick up some shoes and I walked past the beauty supply store and I said, I haven't had the occasion of going to a beauty supply store. I don't even remember the last time. It's probably been
Starting point is 02:10:04 decades. But I went in there just to look. And I'm like, wow. Now, clearly, we don't own the the supply network, the chain. But I'm looking on the shelf, and one of the things that caught my eye was Bronner Brothers. I saw it as Bronner Brothers. Now, of course, there was a time when black folk actually controlled the politics and the economics of our air. You're in Atlanta. You're part of that, like you say, you're the global hope for them and you're part of that network. How important is it for us to be able to go from beginning to end, as you call yourself an accidental entrepreneur, but driven by necessity like Madam C.J. Walker was. You say, okay, I'm going to do this, but then when I looked on your website, I'm looking around, I see this supply chain blooming,
Starting point is 02:10:46 and you're literally connecting with black folk. And it just makes me happy because this, maybe it's why I say one of the thing about this. And please just, you know, anywhere you want to talk about this, please do. You know, a lot of my students at Howard now, I see them, even in the conservative school of business with locks, former students used to go to Hampton and say, cut your locks now they can wear the baby locks with this blossoming is this an opportunity to recapture a market that we didn't concede but in many ways was kind of kind of taken with us any thoughts about anything yes you are you are spot on you know when it comes down to it it really comes down to us maintaining our community and how much of the of the funds of the money
Starting point is 02:11:32 that we work very very hard for how much of it can we really retain and circulate in our economy. And so, you know, when it comes to, you know, take our company, for example, the folks that work here look like me. So that means I'm able to provide good-paying jobs in the South Florida market, which for anyone that knows South Florida, you know that it is pricey. But I'm able to employ people that look like me, give them good-paying jobs so they're able to support their families, provide for their families. And in addition to that, I'm I'm also able to then control who am I purchasing from. So for my raw ingredients, I first and foremost,
Starting point is 02:12:13 I'm looking for black-owned minority-owned companies whenever I can find them. I'm purchasing from them because I'm now taking my money and I'm putting it into their pots. And then they're then, of course, going to circulate it more in our community. So it all really comes down to how can we keep as much of our money, which everyone knows money is power. How can we keep as much of our money in our own economy and circulate it? And this is one of the ways that we've been able to do that.
Starting point is 02:12:43 And so when I have conversations with my children and I'm trying to teach them about what does it take in order to build our community in order to make it so that our communities are more self-sufficient, it comes down to dollars and cents. You know, the people that I hire to manage my social media look like me. So here you have, you know, folks that. are not, you know, did not even think that at one point that they were going to be a part of this ecosystem or not part of the ecosystem because when I'm making hiring decisions and I'm deciding which vendors, which suppliers, who am I going to use for different services,
Starting point is 02:13:20 I'm first and foremost looking for folks that look like me. Beautiful. Thank you. Well, that's one of the reasons why we partnered to create shop blackstar network.com to be able to do these segments connecting our audience with black owned companies and so folks if you want to get check out lots of products simply go to blacks go to shop blackstar network.com let me say that again nola just in case you missed that and so if you want to get these products you go to shop blackstar network.com and if you go to the website you
Starting point is 02:13:55 will see Loxanity the products right there just click right there you see the full collection and again we support the show you're supporting the black I'm company, you support him. The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear? I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success. Listening is a form of love.
Starting point is 02:14:25 Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well-being at at soundedouttogether.org. That's sounded outtogether.org. Brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal. The social media trend that's landing some Gen Z years in jail. The progressive media darling whose public meltdown got her fired. I'm going to take Francesco off the network entirely. The massive TikTok boycott against Target that makes no actual sense.
Starting point is 02:14:52 I will continue getting stuff from Target and I will continue to not pay for it. And the MAGA influencers whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment. So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulate. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online in media and in politics with the Brad versus Everyone podcast, hosted by me, Brad Palumbo. Every day of the week, I bring you on a wild ride through the most delulu takes on the internet, criticizing the extremes of both sides from an independent perspective.
Starting point is 02:15:28 Join in on the insanity and listen to the Brad versus Everyone podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is you can decide who takes home the 26 IHard Podcast Awards podcast of the year by voting at IHeart Podcast Awards.com now through February 22nd. See all the nominees and place your vote at IHeart Podcast Awards.com. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at Audible.com. This black owned company as well. So, Charmaine, we appreciate it. Good luck.
Starting point is 02:16:12 And before I leave Roland, I would be remiss if I did not mention. One of the things that I'm always told to make sure that I do speak up and say something. Today, you see our panel. We have two gentlemen and men make a half of the population. Yet there are virtually no products out there for you guys. We actually have an entire collection that we've created just for the fellas. It's called Bold by Loxanity. So just I had to throw that in there before you kick me off.
Starting point is 02:16:40 Well, I don't think me and Greg can worry about that, but I'm sure Mustafa and Oman Congo. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You all have skin, don't you? Yeah. Say again? You have skin, right? Okay.
Starting point is 02:16:55 What we see, what you said, Loxet, he's talking about Loxia. You didn't say the skin part. No, don't do me like that. No, see, no, no, no. talking about hair. It's good, though. So we have a little bit of everything. So not only your hair, that's only a part of it. We also have
Starting point is 02:17:15 body wash. We also there you go. You have the body. You didn't say none of that. Charmaine. And I am going to get so much trouble with my team. Charmaine, let me help you out, Charmaine. When you're selling, you've got to say all of that. The whole setup was talking just by
Starting point is 02:17:33 hair. Am I, Greg? No, am I? No, that was it. You are correct. You are, I'll get better at this. I'll have to come back the next time so that I can talk about. So you got, you got products for hair, you got products for skin, you got body wash.
Starting point is 02:17:49 That's not what I heard, but okay. Yes, we offer products. No, all you heard was brick and mortar. That's not what I heard, sis. I'm going to go ahead and support you. That's not what I heard. You didn't even have to come back and say, oh, yeah. You lie.
Starting point is 02:18:04 Nola, Nola, stop trying to give yourself out. Whatever. Don't listen to him. Yes, you did. Yes, you did, because I'm looking at the chat right now, Nola,
Starting point is 02:18:13 like you. I see everything. And yes, brothers are sitting here saying, all right. What about me? You said skin products, not folk like cold.
Starting point is 02:18:23 Now I got it. You come back and you say brothers, we can forget about you and look what they do. Girl, I'm sorry. I got you, though.
Starting point is 02:18:28 My lactician got you. No, no. No, but even when she said, brothers, we forget about it. you she ain't talking but she was only hair I'm just saying we have you all covered we all there you go covered from head to toe even I see you have a beautiful hair we we even have a beard
Starting point is 02:18:45 collection oh yes and this is only normally I do not first of all I hate wearing my beard this so I have not shaved in three weeks so it's actually a bet somebody somebody said can I actually go a month without trimming my beard wow and trust me Trust me, it's driving me crazy. I normally, it's driving me crazy. I prefer, like, I'm trying to win the bit. But I prefer to have it trimmed all the way down. This, I have never, I have never gone this long without trimming my beard.
Starting point is 02:19:24 Never. We're going to have to send you some of the beard, the beard cure kit. That way you could fall in love with it. And it looks very distinguished. So I get you, but so I'm trying to win the bet to see how long. Trust me, every at least, at least 10 times a day, I'm like, I can grab one of these three clippers and just bring that sucker down. So I'm struggling not to do it when I wake up every morning.
Starting point is 02:19:54 All right, Charmaine, we appreciate it. Thanks a bunch, folks. Lock Sandy, go to shop Blackslutnetwork.com to check the products out. We appreciate it. Good luck. Thanks a lot. Thank you for having. I text John Hope Bryant with Operation Hope and told him you were on. So he said he was watching the second as well. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 02:20:12 All right. Brittany Noble, you ready with Black Star Network headlines? Is Brittany ready? Somebody talk to me. I guess Brittany ain't ready with headlines. Let me go to a break. I'm ready. I mean, call your name three times.
Starting point is 02:20:32 I was here for the conversation. I like the beard, but I'm ready for headlines. wait y'all sitting here we're going to go to a break and then we'll be right back Black Sun Network headlines with Britney Noble. Fair enough.
Starting point is 02:20:47 If in this country right now you have people get up in the morning and the only thing they can think about is how many people they can hurt and they've got the power that's the time for mourning. For better or worse,
Starting point is 02:21:16 what makes America special it's that legal system that's supposed to protect minorities from the tyranny of the the majority. We are at a point of a moral emergency. We must raise a voice of outrage. We must raise a voice of compassion and we must raise a voice of unity. We are not in a crisis of party versus party. We are in a crisis of civilization, a human rights crisis and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what? You've been chosen.
Starting point is 02:21:53 to make sure that those that would destroy, those that would hate, don't have the final say, and they don't ultimately win. Hey, y'all. Welcome to the other side of change, only on the Black Star Network and hosted by myself, Maria Baker, and my good sis, Jamir Burley. We are just two millennial women tackling everything at the intersection of politics, gender, and pop culture. And we don't just settle for commentary.
Starting point is 02:22:22 This is about solution-driven dialogue to get us to the world as it could be and not just as it is. Watch us on the Black Star Network, so tune in to the other side of change. Melanie Campbell, National Coalition on Black Civic Participation from Black Women's Roundtable. And we are watching Roland Wild and unfiltered all day, every day. 24-7, spread the word. All right, folks. Time for Black Star Network headlines with Brittany Noble. Roland, Detroit Homicides dropped for the first time in six decades. The city recorded 165 criminal homicides in 2025.
Starting point is 02:23:11 The few is since the city had. had 125 homicides back in 64. Non-fatal shootings also declined from 607 to 447 last year. The police chief says what we're doing in Detroit is working. He credits the gun violence reduction partnership, the shot stoppers program, police initiatives and technology for the shift. Also in Detroit, a man wrongfully convicted and awarded $1 million has been ordered to return the money.
Starting point is 02:23:37 Desmond Rick spent 25 years in prison for the 1993 murder of Gary Bennett. of Gary Bennett. Ricks was later exonerated and offered more than $1 million under Michigan's Wrongful Imprisonment Compensation Act, which was passed in 2017. He received about $50,000 per year of his prison time. Now he must repay Michigan the money following a separate civil settlement tied to his wrongful conviction. That settlement is coming from the city of Detroit, which agreed to pay Ricks $7.5 million to resolve a lawsuit alleging police misconduct. But the state says that he should not be getting money from both the city and the state, clarifying that it's the city's responsibility. Although Ricks has received some funding, because honorees still received
Starting point is 02:24:18 relatively few payouts. The Department of Justice is suing Arizona and Connecticut. It comes as officials in both states are defending their decision to refuse the DOJ's request to release voter information. Arizona Secretary Adrian Fontez says releasing the voter records would violate state and federal law. The DOJ is currently suing 23 other states to obtain data. officials are pushing back saying that releasing voter information violates federal privacy law, which protects individual data from public disclosure for government use. Also, Donald Trump is asking for more than $6.2 million in attorney fees and costs from the Fulton County District's Attorney's Office. It stems from the recently dismissed election interference case brought against him and others.
Starting point is 02:25:02 Last year, Georgia lawmakers passed a law that says if a prosecutor is disqualified from a case and it's dismissed, Anyone in that case that's charged is entitled to request attorney fees and cost incurred. Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis was removed from the case over a romantic relationship that she had with special prosecutor Nathan Wade. If the judge overseeing the case grants the request, fees and costs are paid from the prosecutor's office budget. Senate Democrats seek to ban taxpayer-funded payouts to capital rioters. Lawmakers are introducing a new legislation called no settlements for five January 6th law enforcement assaulters. It will prevent taxpayer money from being awarded to convicted and now pardoned rioters. The bills without law, the establishment of any compensation fund to pay rioters.
Starting point is 02:25:48 The other piece would stop the use of federal tax money to pay for civil legal settlements against January 6th defendants who were convicted of assaulting police. The DOJ has already approved a nearly $5 million settlement to the family of Ashley Babbitt. She was shot and killed by a Capitol police officer while she breached a smashed window in the House Speaker's lobby. Well, the corporation for public broadcasting, which funds in BR PBS and many other local radio and TV stations is officially shutting down. It comes months after Congress passed spending cuts that strip the company of more than $1 billion in funding. CPB's board of directors voted to dissolve the private nonprofit corporation after 58 years of service. Over the summer, the Republican led House and Senate passed a package of funding cuts. In it, CPB, another government agency,
Starting point is 02:26:38 were targeted, meaning the money that Congress had previously allocated to them would be cut to fulfill a request by the Trump administration, created in 1967 by Congress. CPB helped support more than 1,500 local radio and TV stations nationwide. Roland. All right. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot, folks. That is it for us.
Starting point is 02:27:01 Let me thank Noah. Let me thank Greg for being on today's panel. Thank you so very much. And just as a reminder, Here, Nola, when we have shop blackstar network.com, guess we're trying to push people to go to shop blackstarnetwork.com. There's the look. So that way, if they buy the products with shop blackstar network.com, then they also support the show. If they buy the products elsewhere, then there's no benefit for us at the Blackstar network.
Starting point is 02:27:34 So hence the site, shop blackstar network.com. That's why your mic is muted. See? See? I'm not saying that it was muted right there. Actually, you're talking all that. You're talking all that.
Starting point is 02:27:54 And your damn mic was muted. I'm glad it was because I'm going to go with the rest of my day and peace. You were trying to be petty and be in shame. I'm being petty. You stopped the whole shoulder to readdressing. Good night. Good night. That's all we saw was.
Starting point is 02:28:11 That's all we saw. All right. somebody said, asked Nola about her gumbo. No, because she can't go. All right, that's it. We got to go. You don't understand how triggering that is for my dad and mama, like, for real, for real.
Starting point is 02:28:27 Like, I'm not playing. That's what's triggering as hell. Wait, when you're going to bring something to the studio? When I can get in the kitchen and cook gumbo again, rolling. Because that's me and my mama's thing. This isn't
Starting point is 02:28:43 just about. You never could be about yourself? Yes, Roland. All the time. The state of the union is this month, right? Right. So we got State of the Union. Y'all not about to bully me into a sacred thing for me and my mama.
Starting point is 02:28:58 What I'm saying, bring somebody to share. I will when I feel like it. Not until then, period. Okay. All right. But I did make her plurines and they were bomb. Oh, what? Pecone plurine.
Starting point is 02:29:15 You heard what I said and you heard how I said it because that's how you said. I thought that's what she even, but I'm sorry. Did you say pralines? I said pecan ploreen. Picard plurrines. I said pecan plurine. Plurrene. Can you spell plurine?
Starting point is 02:29:30 P-R-A-L-N-E. Now you want me to spell up in New Orleans way? Uh-oh. Because I can spell it to Wal-A for you. I'm sorry, did you say it's spelled P-R-A but you put the ale in front of the R? This man over here making fun of all of us. So I need y'all to be up. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 02:29:47 I've never heard. To tell him. To tell him that is. I've never heard of chlorine. Thank you very much. I'm about to go and eat my plurine. I've heard of chlorine. I never heard of florine.
Starting point is 02:30:00 Oh, okay. Well, listen, I know a lot of people from New Orleans. Yeah. I know a lot of people. One is sitting here right here. I ain't never heard of plurine. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:14 I won't sorry. I ain't never heard. Well, you just heard it. Okay, all right. Okay, maybe we'll get those on shop, BlackSutnetwork.com. Yeah, that we're going to go back to the bit. All right. Thanks a bunch.
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