#RolandMartinUnfiltered - IL Sonya Massey Rally, VP Harris Atlanta Campaign Rally, NABJ Pushes Back On Trump

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

7.30.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: IL Sonya Massey Rally, VP Harris Atlanta Campaign Rally, NABJ Pushes Back On Trump Vice President Kamala Harris returned to Atlanta for a rally to secure Georgia's s...upport and ensure the state stays blue. We'll share what she said about preserving voter momentum. Meanwhile, Republicans are intensifying their efforts to discredit Kamala Harris's past as a prosecutor to influence black voters. However, a recent bipartisan poll by the Howard University Initiative on Public Opinion indicates that black voters focus more on VP Harris's policy and her past. We'll discuss the implications of this poll with the Dean of Howard University and how you can get involved. Although former President Trump is scheduled to attend the 2024 National Association of Black Journalists Convention in Chicago, some black journalists are pushing back against his invitation. We'll show you what The President of The NABJ had to say about Trump's appearance at NABJ. Jacksonville, Florida, has a new Democratic candidate entering the race for House District 14. We'll discuss her strategies for competing against Rep Kim Daniels. Lastly, I am reporting live from the rally for Sonya Massey in Chicago, organized by her family. I'll share all the details from the rally as we honor Sonya's life and seek justice. #BlackStarNetwork partners:Fanbase 👉🏾 https://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseCurl Prep 👉🏾 Visit https://www.curlprep.com/ for natural hair solutions! Us the discount code "ROLAND" at checkout Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:36 Their words, with all the cameras, ring hollow until we see their actions. I would say, as stated in Mr. Wilburn's father's call for his resignation, I would say that if we're looking right now nationally at them putting the Secret Service and FBI on the grill about the attempt on Donald Trump's life and instead the one reservation. How do you become assured over a deputy that was in his sixth assignment, which you had to know, and you did not even have the courtesy and the decency to go to this family's house
Starting point is 00:03:21 and explain what happened when you knew it? Anyone that is sensitive and anyone that allowed someone that should have never been in that department should not only resign, he should apologize to the people in that county. Has the sheriff reached out to you? Has the sheriff reached out to you? Hello? They have not met, no. Not yet. Come on, press. Let me do the press first, brother.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Oh, you were the press? Okay. State who you are and where you're from. State who you are and where you are. I'm not a black man. I'm not a black man. I'm also a white man. I'm not a black man. The question is, the law is not a national law. Could you also prove to me that no other specials can have it? Yes. When we...
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yes, I think that... We can protest about it. We got a black house here. We can put that on the... I think you're right. I think you're right. You said that. Can we, can the nasty law we're proposing include mental health? And I think he's absolutely right. We'll take two more.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah. When was the ban? 24 hours later, they found out in the press right yeah I found out from the press yeah any other questions yeah I will say this and let Reverend Al Sharpton
Starting point is 00:05:02 have the final word yeah we must continue to say her name say this and let Reverend Al Sharpton have the final word. We must continue to say her name, Sonia Massey, because black women who are killed by police officers in the United States of America rarely,
Starting point is 00:05:19 rarely get justice. I mean, your native daughter, Sandra Bland, got no justice. I mean, your native daughter, Sandra Bland, got no justice. Breonna Taylor, I mean, they had a trial. Nobody was convicted.
Starting point is 00:05:36 There was a hung jury. They're going to try again at the end of this year, and if there's no conviction, we doubt Breonna Taylor will ever get justice a Kamala Turner Reverend Al you remember in Houston did another terrible video where a black woman was shot five times by the police on her back in her face in her chest in her stomach and nobody goes to jail for killing black women so that's why we gotta keep saying
Starting point is 00:06:08 justice for Sonia Massey justice for Sonia Massey justice for Sonia Massey justice for Sonia Massey justice for Sonia Massey justice for Sonia Massey alright we will start the rally at 6 o'clock thank you very much. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Okay. All right, so to everybody who's watching on the Black Star Network, we are going to do a reset, folks. So we're going to be covering the rally here at 6 o'clock, so I need to go ahead. Excuse me, watch out, camera right behind you. So what we're going to do is we're going to actually go live. So we're going to go to a break, and then when I come back, I'll do a reset so we can do the show.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And, again, we're going to be covering this rally live at 7 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Central. So you're watching breaking news coverage right here on the Black Star Network. We'll be right back in a moment. When you talk about blackness and what happens in black culture, you're about covering these things that matter to us, speaking to our issues and concerns. This is a genuine people-powered movement. There's a lot of stuff that we're not getting. You get it.
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Starting point is 00:08:55 there's an angry pro-trump mob storm to the u.s capital we're about to see the rise of what i call white minority resistance we have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys.
Starting point is 00:09:30 America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. On a next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, how are you being of service to others?
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Starting point is 00:10:59 it's easy to point out the Donald Trumps, the Marjorie Taylor Greens, or even the United States Supreme Court as the primary villains. But as David Pepper, author, scholar, and former politician himself says, there's another factor that trumps them all and resides much closer to many of our homes. His book is Laboratories of Autocracy, a wake-up call from behind the lines. So these state houses get hijacked by the far right. Then they gerrymander.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They suppress the opposition. And that allows them to legislate in a way that doesn't reflect the people of that state. David Pepper joins us on the next Black Table here on the Black Star Network. Coming soon to the Black Star Network. $150,000, but I made $150,000. Now think about it. My signing bonus was a forgivable loan, supposedly. When I got traded to the Colts, they made me pay back my signing bonus to them.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I had to give them their $600,000 back. Wow. I was so pissed. Cause man, I try to be a man of my word. I'm like, you. I'll give you your money back. Even though I know I earned that money, I gave him that money back.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I gave him that $600,000 back. But yet I was this malcontent. I was a bad guy. I'm not about the money. Wasn't about the money. It was about doing right. Because I was looking at, I looked at, cause you look at contracts.
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Starting point is 00:14:37 Hey, folks. Welcome back to Roland Martin Unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network. We're here at New Mount Pilgrim Missionary Baptist Church here on the west side of Chicago where they just finished the news conference with Reverend Al Sharpton, Ben Crump, the family of Sonia Massey. In about 35 minutes, they're going to actually have this community rally taking place here. And so folks are already assembling in here. And so we're getting ready for that. Let me do this here. Let me introduce our panel. Joining us right now, Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for environmental justice at the EPA. Also, Dr. Larry J. Walker, assistant professor at the University of Central Florida out of Orlando.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Also joining us is Dr. Nola Haynes, Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. So glad to have all three of y'all here. So I want to start with you, Mustafa. What is happening here, you heard what they talked about there. This officer should have never had this job. He had misconduct in the military. He, six, what, what, six different law enforcement agencies before he was hired. There's no way in the world this man should have had a job. Yeah, you know, an officer of public service never had the opportunity to move from, you know, location to location having, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:54 failed in each of the previous ones there. It's just dangerous. And that's why we have to do a much better job in relationship to law enforcement, making sure that these individuals don't have these previous sets of being a bad actor or police brutality or having any type of mental health issues.
Starting point is 00:16:15 So we have just got to do a better job, and we have just got to also make sure that there's not these double standards, where we're allowing those who have literally taken their life away in a couple of seconds, that we would not allow an airplane pilot or somebody else who has a responsibility of keeping people safe. So it's a shame, but it is also a learning opportunity for us to make sure that something like this doesn't happen again. Dr. Larry Walker, to that particular point there, again, as you heard Reverend Allen Sharpton say, you don't have the George Floyd Police and the George Floyd Justice Act, but Illinois can pass this law. Each state can actually pass this law.
Starting point is 00:16:55 They don't have to wait for the federal government to pass the law. Yeah, Roland, this is a tragedy that could have been prevented. You know, you're right. It's incumbent on states, and obviously Illinois has a Democratic governor, to take the necessary steps to hold. First of all, this individual should have never been, like we've highlighted, should never have been employed. And the fact that, you know, now that we have someone's lost their life, now we have, you know, we're having the same conversation we've had, not only in terms of what happened there, but states throughout the United States. And so we need a federal database. And then that's specifically a state level. We need to make sure we also pass legislation in terms of law enforcement officers that have been dismissed
Starting point is 00:17:38 in other jurisdictions to make sure these individuals aren't employed and aren't carrying a gun and have the opportunity to see, we say, the loss of life we've recently seen. But we just have to, from a policy standpoint, like you said, it certainly hasn't happened at the state level, I mean, the federal level. But at a minimum at the state level, we have to make sure we hold these individuals accountable and prevent them from being employed as law enforcement officers. Dr. Nola Haynes, you know, I've had to play a lot of these videos. And I dare say this was one of the most shocking videos we've ever played. When I first saw it on social media, I mean, when he pulled the gun out, I just turned away. I mean, here was a woman with a pot and this guy was looking to shoot.
Starting point is 00:18:27 He was looking to kill. He was agitated. And again, this is a this is a thug with a gun who should have never, ever been ever, ever been on the force. I agree. And, you know, as a Black woman, as someone who recently lost her mother, this one hit really, really hard for a lot of reasons. And the conversation about, you know, her potentially being mentally ill, I don't understand why that has anything to do with anything. I don't care if it's true, if it's not true or whatever, this woman should still be alive. And I know that across the national security apparatus, law enforcement, that there are workforce problems. And I can tell you, this is not anything that's going to want to recruit new people to fill the
Starting point is 00:19:18 gaps and to fill the voids because, I mean, it just seems like we are hunted. That's what it feels like. And I was just sitting there watching that rolling and thinking to myself, I know you've done a lot of these. I was like, how many have Reverend Sharpton, how many of these has he attended? How many times do we have to hear this same narrative and this same story over and over again? Right. Yeah. over and over again. Right, right. Yeah, I can't even tell you, I can't even count how many families I've had to talk to, how many mothers, how many fathers.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I mean, matter of fact, there were a couple of brothers who came up to me and they said, brother, and granted I was setting up and so I was focused on that. And they said, brother, I want to thank you for helping our family. I couldn't even, they said the name, but again, I was so focused on trying to get set up for the news conference, but I couldn't remember. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It's so many of these stories that I literally am meeting families and I can't even keep up. And that's how significant this is. This is a fraternity and a sorority that no one wants to be a member of and these things keep happening. And so we're going to continue to cover this again, folks, in about 30 minutes here. We're on the west side of Chicago
Starting point is 00:20:36 at New Mount Pilgrim Missionary Baptist Church. They're going to have a public rally for the family of Sonia Massey. Yes, the cop has been charged. Yes, the cop is still in jail. But as Ben Crump says, the family has not gotten justice because he has not been convicted. And so we cannot lose sight of that. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to go to a break. I have to do a reset of where we're going to be positioned because we need to be in position when the rally starts because where I'm standing is right in front of the church. So the family is going to be down here. So I'm going to be moving to the back of the church. And so we're going to talk
Starting point is 00:21:12 about, again, Vice President Kamala Harris in Atlanta. 10,000 folks have been lined up waiting for her in Meg the Stallion. Also, we're going to talk about the National Association of Black Journalists. Donald Trump, lots of controversy. Donald Trump coming to speak to NABJ tomorrow. They have Vice President Kamala Harris offered to speak virtually and to take questions. NABJ turned her down. I got a whole lot to say about that. Folks, you're watching Roland Martin. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
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Starting point is 00:27:22 Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. There's all the Proud Boys, guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. Curl Prep Natural Hair Solutions at CurlPrep.com. I'm in shock. For curls, locks, braids, twists, and even those wigs and extensions.
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Starting point is 00:30:04 PayPal is R. Martin Unfiltered. PayPal is R Martin Unfiltered. Venmo is RM Unfiltered. Zelle is Roland at RolandSMartin.com. On a next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, how are you being of service to others? Doing for someone beside yourself is such a big part of living a balanced life. We'll talk about what that means, the generation that missed that message and the price that we're all paying as a result. Well, now all I see is mama getting up in the morning, going to work, maybe dropping me off at school, then coming back home at night. And then I really didn't have any type of time with
Starting point is 00:30:40 the person that really was there to nurture me and prepare me and to show me what a life looked like and what service looked like. That's all on the next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, here at Blackstar Network. Next on The Black Table with me, Greg Carr. Democracy in the United States is under siege. On this list of bad actors, it's easy to point out the Donald Trumps, the Marjorie Taylor Greens, or even the United States Supreme Court as the primary villains. But as David Pepper, author, scholar, and former politician himself says, there's another factor that trumps them all and resides much closer to many of our homes. His book is
Starting point is 00:31:28 Laboratories of Autocracy, a wake-up call from behind the lines. So these state houses get hijacked by the far right, then they gerrymander, they suppress the opposition, and that allows them to legislate in a way that doesn't reflect the people of that state. David Pepper joins us on the next Black Table here on the Black Star Network. Coming soon to the Black Star Network. I still have my NFL contract in my house, having a case. It's four of them, my four-year contract. I got a $600,000 signing bonus. My base salary for that first year was $150,000. Matter of fact... $150,000.
Starting point is 00:32:09 $150,000, that's what I made, $150,000. Now, think about it. My signing bonus was a forgivable loan, supposedly. When I got traded to the Colts, they made me pay back my signing bonus to them. I had to give them their $600,000 back. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I was so pissed. Because, man, I try to be a man of my word. I'm like, you. I'll give you your money back. You know, even though I know I earned that money. Right. I gave them that money back. I gave them that $600,000 back.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But yet, I was this malcontent. I was a bad guy. I wasn't about the money. I wasn't about the money. It was about doing right. Because I was looking at guy. I'm not about the money. It wasn't about the money. It was about doing right. Because I was looking at, I looked at, because you look at your contract.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Look at John Edwards. God, John Edwards making a million dollars. 800,000. I was making 150. I mean, I was doing everything. And I'm like, but yet I was, man, I got so many letters. You know, you.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You, you. Oh,. So I just play for free and all that kind of stuff. I mean, you don't forget that kind of stuff. Right. That stuff is hurtful. Good job, good pay, good life. Would you be willing to walk away from it
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Starting point is 00:34:58 yourself is such a big part of living a balanced life. We'll talk about what that means, the generation that missed that message and the price that we're all paying as a result. Well, now all I see is mama getting up in the morning, going to work, maybe dropping me off at school, then coming back home at night. And then I really didn't have any type of time with the person that really was there to nurture me and prepare me and to show me what a life looked like and what service looked like. That's all on the next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, here at Blackstar Network. Farquhar, executive producer of Proud Family.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Bruce Smith, creator and executive producer of The Proud Family. Louder and Prouder. You're watching Roland Martin. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back to Roller Martin Unfiltered. We're here in Chicago at New Mount Pilgrim Missionary Baptist Church, where in about 15 minutes or so, this public event on behalf of Sonia Mass is going to actually start. But this is not the first event we've actually seen take place. On Sunday, in 35 cities across the country, the folks at Until Freedom
Starting point is 00:38:38 actually organized various vigils and rallies on behalf of Sonia Massey, New York City, and so many other cities. Joining us right now is the co-founder of Until Freedom, my good buddy, Tamika Mallory. Tamika, you literally just flew in, just walked into the door. Y'all, she walked in, walked right past me. I was like, uh-uh, uh-uh, come on back. Talk about, again, what y'all put together. Initially, y'all were trying to do 10 cities. That thing blew up. Were people reaching out, saying, we want to do put together. Initially, y'all were trying to do 10 cities. That thing blew up.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Were people reaching out, saying, we want to do something? It went to 35? Absolutely. And I think, you know, what it really said to us was that our hunch was right, that people were ready to get outside to show their support and their outrage for Sonia Massey. I was very concerned that we could not have a situation where Sonia Massey's story would just be some Instagram posts and a few people crying on the internet about her. No, we needed to do the same thing for her that we've done for Breonna Taylor and for George Floyd and many of the names we
Starting point is 00:39:36 already know. Because we also understand that here in the state of Illinois, you had Laquan McDonald, who was shot 16 times. Many of those shots happened while he was on the ground. And the officer had 16 counts. He was convicted, but he only served three years. So it won't be long before they start with the spin and trying to find a way to, you know, not allow this officer to face the full, full force of accountability. Also, we see that the police union has already started to demand that he would be restored and all of his benefits, and they're looking out for him. Right. Now, they were calling for that, but they actually backed off of that before this
Starting point is 00:40:17 because of all of this. I learned this now. Which our people need to understand, that's why public pressure matters. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, I mean, clearly, because on Sunday, that's why public pressure matters. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, I mean, clearly, because on Sunday that was not the case. It was not the energy. And so between 35 cities, the rally that's happening here today,
Starting point is 00:40:35 the work that Attorney Crump and others have been doing, we wanted an until freedom to put our boots on the ground and make sure that there's a movement out there behind Sonia Massey that's more than lip service and more than social media? Well, I think one of the things that happens, one of the things that happens, just move a little closer here so they can, one of the things that happens is that people think when an officer is charged or indicted, yay. No, no, no. That's just one piece. The second piece is, will it actually
Starting point is 00:41:07 go to trial? We saw what happened in Minnesota. Well, the pro I think the Jelani, I forgot the last name is escaping me. Um, uh, or no Ricky cop, Ricky cop. He gets shot and killed, um, by a trooper. The prosecutor was going to pursue charges. The governor, again, this so-called progressive governor, Tim Walz, who many people are pushing to be Vice President Kamala Harris' running mate, steps in and says, if she did not drop the charges, I was going to replace the prosecutor. And so it's a perfect example of even when you have a prosecutor who wants to indict,
Starting point is 00:41:51 you still have somebody else who's over them who wants to weigh in. So we have to keep the pressure on from the incident all the way through a conviction. Absolutely. I mean, look at what happened with both of John. It's the same thing. The officer was supposed to serve whatever her sentence was, and she did not. In fact, we see that oftentimes that they have a rallying cry as well. And so I think for us, we have to make sure that these people know that we're very educated on what is happening here, that we are not fooled by officers being fired or being arrested. And even a police chief who came out and said, I apologize, we failed and please forgive
Starting point is 00:42:33 me. This is not the time for forgiveness. It is the time for accountability. How did you hire him? Right. Exactly. I mean, we looked at his background and we know he was dishonorably discharged from the armed forces for a serious infraction uh also moved around six different police departments in four years lied recently i mean he was just in trouble recently on and they got an on tape but his boss was like why are you still employed here exactly and yet he still was there and out in the community with vulnerable people with a weapon and with a partner who really should have stepped in. His partner should have turned his gun and said, hey, you drop your weapon right now, because he that officer was the criminal in that house on the day that Sonia Massey was killed.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Absolutely. And so, again, folks, understand this is why public pressure matters. And so the work until freedom is doing and they're not giving up until we get full justice to make. We appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's good to see you. Absolutely. Thanks a bunch. All right, folks, we go to a break. We come back. We're going to talk about Donald Trump in a B.J. Oh, this thing has been blown up like crazy. I'm going to give you all the details. That's next. Roland Martin, unfiltered on the Black Star Network.
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Starting point is 00:45:23 The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Starting point is 00:46:13 Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way.
Starting point is 00:47:22 In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher.
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Starting point is 00:49:26 campaign event with Vice President Kamala Harris, who will be speaking after Meg The Stallion finishes performing. We're going to go live to Atlanta when the Vice President comes to the mic. But you are seeing, so not only is Meg The Stallion performing, Quavo, who has worked with the Vice President with gun control reform. Quavo is also going to be speaking in Atlanta as well. And so the campaign is in full steam ahead. And what we're seeing is new polling coming out showing how the vice president is doing very well against Donald Trump. Several swing state polls show her up, Pennsylvania, Michigan, as well as Wisconsin as well. And one of the reasons why the numbers have changed,
Starting point is 00:50:05 black voter support. The folks at Howard University, they've also done their particular poll dealing with this. So let's bring in Dr. Dana Williams, Dean of Howard University's Graduate School. Dana, glad to have you on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Tell us about your poll. Thank you. My pleasure. Glad to be here. I appreciate especially there's that quote that you use all the time around, we wish to plead our cause. That's part of the reason we do the work that we do here at Howard with the polling initiative. how Black people think about particular issues, giving an opportunity to them to have their voices heard. We've heard a million times how many people say after they see polls and they have like 20 Black people out of 2,000. Well, we wanted to change that and have been changing that with the polling that we're doing, where we focus 100 percent on Black voters. The most recent one we did when we saw the shift from Joe Biden as the nominee to Vice President Harris as the presumptive nominee, we immediately fielded a poll with more than 2,000 responses. We did the
Starting point is 00:51:11 responsible thing in terms of research. We weighted it to try to make sure that it was in line and reflective of really national trends as we understand registered voters. And I appreciate also the segment that we just had before around keeping the pressure on, because second to affordable health care, the thing that Black voters cared about over 90 percent in terms of top concerns that they wanted to hear more about was actually racial justice. So you talk about 2,000 respondents. One of the problems that we've been talking about with the rest of these polling, they've had very few African-Americans in these polls. And so what you're talking about are 2,000 Black people. That's a lot different than the New York
Starting point is 00:51:54 Times Siena poll, the Emerson poll, Quinnipiac, where they might have anywhere from 90 to 200. So you're getting a better understanding of what black voters are saying and thinking. Absolutely. That's the precise point, because we understand black voters as incredibly diverse. So when you have another poll that has a small percentage of black voters, then you may get a homogenous group where we have undecided voters. We have voters who have historically voted Democratic, voters who voted Republican the last two elections. So what we're trying to do is eliminate that myth of homogeny amongst Black voters and to really begin to think about what are the issues and what are the things that resonate most specifically with these voters. And we do things beyond voting. But, of course, during this particular season, political season, we're focusing very especially on making sure that black voices are heard.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Questions from our panel, Dr. Nola Haynes, you're first. Thank you so much. As the political scientist, I am so happy to hear about the demographic of people that you all polled. So my question is, what was the most surprising thing that you found? I think two things. One had to do with the discomfort that Black voters have with Kamala Harris's pass as a prosecutor. We thought that number was going to be much higher. The reality is black men especially said 80 percent said they had no concern about her background as a prosecutor.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Just about 75 percent of black women voters said they had very little concern about it. And part of the reason that we do the polling and the focus group together is to try to begin to understand what the rationale is and what became very clear. And this is also why it's important to have black people do a polling because you get a different kind of response in a focus group when your question is a black and the people in the focus group are black. And the focus group folks told us that very specifically that they were happy and surprised that the group was black. But what they said ultimately is, oh, we believe in justice. We believe completely in justice. We have no problem with a prosecutor. What we have a problem with is people who don't prosecute on our behalf. So that was kind of surprising. The second thing I think was just how candid people were about, um, who should be selected as the running mate. Like 90% said it didn't matter who it was as long as her vice presidential selection was a white male.
Starting point is 00:54:28 The second highest number was a VP from a swing state. And then the third was in terms of a path to victory. They thought that a path to victory, as we think about her with Megan Thee Stallion today, was endorsement by somebody that they respected. A lot of folks were also waiting for the Obama endorsement that came. So I think those two things were kind of surprising. What we try to do is to pose questions with the interdisciplinary group of scholars who work together really to put the poll together, to design it. We have psychologists on the team.
Starting point is 00:54:59 We have cultural communicators on the team. We got some journalists on the team. And that, too, is what makes our poll different from the traditional paid strategist or the traditional polling outfit. Because we got people who are really exposed to the full range of folks from the 18 to 21 year olds that we teach, graduate and professional and law students to the people in our communities. You got representation from state to state. So we see lots of variety and seldom do things that really catch us off guard. What we try to do is figure out
Starting point is 00:55:30 why people are saying certain things. Larry, what's your question? Yeah, so thank you for being here and the work you do is very important. So I want to go back to, I remember you put out a poll a few months ago about Michigan and actually caught my eye and I remember reading it. You know, I personally know what I'm talking about. I think it was almost a third of individuals said that they wouldn't
Starting point is 00:55:57 support. I know it was former President Trump. It was like 26 percent, 30 percent, something around that range. And I want you to compare and contrast that with this poll now that former President Biden has dropped out with the numbers you've just described in a state that's critically important for now, V.P. Harris in Michigan, in terms of the views that African-Americans, black voters had based on when particularly like Michigan, when President Biden was running. And now V.P. Harris is clearly going to be a candidate. Can you talk a little bit about that? Because I think those numbers are really important. Sure. A quick kind of point of clarification, if you will, or something that makes clear why the context matters, that number with the Michigan voters poll, which we did in advance
Starting point is 00:56:43 of Super Tuesday, where we looked at the swing states that we thought would matter the most, that percentage was of Republican voters. So we have to be mindful of the fact that Republican voters are going to vote Republican. The fact that only 26% of folks who actually traditionally vote Republican were going to vote for the presumptive Republican nominee was interesting in and of itself. It's difficult, though, not to think about still 20 percent of any Black population saying that they're going to vote. But that was a narrow segment of folks who were voting Republican. This particular segment, interestingly enough, for this particular poll, we had—let me just
Starting point is 00:57:21 check the numbers just so I can make sure I get this right—82 percent said that they traditionally vote Democrat, only 11 percent said independent, and then less than 1 percent of the folks who responded to this particular poll in terms of their intention to vote with this one after the Harris nomination. So the numbers are a little bit different this time because we got less Republican voters captured in this poll, but we did do one focus group that focused exclusively on Black voters who were traditionally Republican voters, all of whom except one said that they intended to vote for Trump in the subsequent election. about project 2025 only one of those voters understood i i understood a subjective so let me be clear only one had articulated familiarity with the project they sought values um that their
Starting point is 00:58:18 values aligned more specifically a couple of, Doc, hold tight one second. Doc, hold on one second. So here's the deal. I need Mustafa. Ask your question. I need a quick question, a quick answer because the Sonia Massacrelli here is just about to start. So Mustafa, real quick, what's your question? I need a quick question, quick answer. Dr. Williams, I'm just curious, you quick, what's your question? Either quick question or quick answer. Dr. Williams, I'm just curious, how do we help to uplift this type of polling since it is unique and it's so much more needed? Thank you. I appreciate the question very explicitly.
Starting point is 00:58:56 We always need more black people to participate in polls. So when you get an invitation, when you see the information, please, please, please respond. If you're interested in participating in polls or focus groups, you can email hippo, H-I-P-O, at howard.edu. And we'll be happy to be in touch with you about joining a panel so we can understand your voice and your voice can be heard as well. Appreciate the opportunity. uh doc real quick tell folks where they can go to actually see the results of this howard university poll yes one of the good pleasures that i have is serving as dean of the graduate
Starting point is 00:59:34 school so it's on the graduate school's website which is where hippo is situated between the graduate school and the ron walters center you can go to gs as in graduate school.howard.edu and you scroll through our centers and you'll see public opinion and you can see not just today's poll or this week's poll, but the Michigan Voters Poll, COVID polls, Black Labor, you name it. If it matters to Black people, we try to get a beat on it. All right, then. I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Folks, get that information.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And we appreciate Howard University for their flag. Vice President, Dr. Damon Williams. Thanks a lot. All right, folks, we're going to go to a break. Unfortunately, we could not get to our discussion about Donald Trump or NBJ because of what's happening here. So actually, we're going to do this here. We're going to do a short version. We're singing right now. I know that Reverend Al Trump has to be out of here in about 38 minutes.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And so I'm going to do this here. We're going to do a quick break. You know what? We're going to get the break. We're going to do it right now. We're going to do a truncated version. And so Donald Trump is going to be speaking tomorrow at National Association of Black Journalists.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Of course, this is the same man who is a dog depressed, believes in fake news, and advanced lies about the election. I'm going to go down on the panel and get your thoughts about this. What is bothersome to me is that Fox News' Harris Faulkner is one of the three people who could be asking questions. Fox wanted to pay a $787 million settlement as a result of broadcasting and backing Trump's lies. I made it clear to NAPJ, nobody from Fox has had any business questioning Donald Trump at the NAPJ. Second, there are no black men on the panel. There are three sisters. I ain't got a problem with sisters. But if there were three black men asking questions, the sisters would be mad. I would be standing with him. Thirdly,
Starting point is 01:01:29 there's nobody from the black press. I can tell all of you that Black Enterprise, in essence, was supposed to be a panel with the CEO of the Executive Leadership Council. They have canceled their panel in protest of no black-owned media thing on this particular panel. And so I want to—and so here's the deal. Vice President Kamala Harris, of course, in Atlanta as we speak, second of all, tomorrow, she's speaking to Sigma Gamma Rho, their convention in Houston. Thursday, she's going to actually be at the funeral of Congressman Sheila Jackson Lee. So the only thing she could do was Friday.
Starting point is 01:02:03 They offered to do a virtual interview. NABJ said, no, it needs to be in person. Let's go to our panel right now. Nola, your thoughts on all of this drama. It's blowing up social media. A lot of black folks, a lot of NABJ members are not happy. I'm not happy and I'm not an NABJ member. You know, I have a lot of friends who are, and I was up late last night talking to those
Starting point is 01:02:28 friends about this situation. The one thing that I keep thinking about is the late hour that it happened. And I think about one of my conferences. If I woke up and they were like, oh, Vladimir Putin's coming tomorrow, you know, not giving the membership a chance to weigh in. And I understand that these sorts of decisions don't always go past the membership. But this is a big but this is a big deal. So there was no membership input.
Starting point is 01:02:51 It happened less than 48 hours. So people could not alter their flights, change their flights. And then I saw some tweets from leadership that was very dismissive, like basically saying you could stay home if you want to. That is not how you handle a situation like this. This man has maligned people who are showing up tomorrow to NABJ. Black women, he's maligned.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And I saw a lot of what April Ryan said. I stand with her. I stand as black women that he repeatedly denigrated and maligned in the media. And I just think that NABJ handled this very, very poorly. And as a cousin, you know, to the media, I'm really disappointed. I'm incredibly disappointed. And I feel for my media friends that have spent the money, they spent their coins. And now they're like, OK, do I go? Am I being complicit? This isn't fair to put that
Starting point is 01:03:45 at the members' feet like that at the last moment. Folks, we've got to do this here. There's a lot going on. Hold tight one second. I want to quickly go to Atlanta, but Vice President Kamala Harris is speaking. We're going to come back to this rally here in Chicago for Sonia Massey. Let's go to Atlanta. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. Oh, it's good to be back in Georgia. Thank you everyone. Can we please hear it for Tyler? I want to thank Tyler for that incredible introduction. I invited him and several other young entrepreneurs to come and visit. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.
Starting point is 01:05:19 But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. Guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams,
Starting point is 01:05:46 and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Starting point is 01:06:14 Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened
Starting point is 01:06:36 when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way.
Starting point is 01:07:22 In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice
Starting point is 01:07:33 to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this
Starting point is 01:07:44 quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Sh Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
Starting point is 01:07:56 What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
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Starting point is 01:09:02 and we had a really very long and important conversation about the future of America. And, Tali, you represent the best of our future. Thank you for that. Thank you. And please give it up for Quavo and Megan. All right, Fox, folks, there's a whole lot that's happening right now. This rally is starting. We have a secondary live stream going of Vice President Kamala Harris speaking there in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:09:34 So if I could do this here real quick, quickly go to Larry, quickly go to Mustafa, get their thoughts. Again, weighing on NABJ. They're going to go live to this rally here. Larry, go. Yeah, Roland, I probably on social media last night when this dropped last night. It dropped like a like an anchor. I'm really disappointed decision. We know that Trump, like I said, is malign black woman, malign a bunch of reporters. And also, like I said, he's consistently fought against policies relating to diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And I think it put a lot of their members who were, as my colleague highlighted, were flying in either today or next couple of days. It put them in a terrible position. And we have to do a better job. I know we talk about gatekeeping, but this is a time when we needed some serious gatekeeping in terms of who we allow into our spaces. And so I think, like I said, for the leadership, those individuals are obviously going to be held accountable. I know that some folks blocked you, Roland, but I think that you brought voice, an important voice among other journalists to challenge people on how this decision was made
Starting point is 01:10:37 to invite Donald Trump. Mustafa, go right ahead. You know, my grandmother would say, will you allow a viper into your house and expect that viper not to bite you? We know that Donald Trump has continued to not only malign our communities, that's not strong enough for the things that he has done over the years. And, you know, he's disrespected our community. He has tried to have black men locked up. And I wonder, what is the conversation that you could possibly want to have with someone who has no respect for you or your people? So I think that not only was it a misstep, but it also gives him a platform to continue the misinformation, the disinformation and the lies that he continues to pump into the American psyche. So not only am I, you know, really sorry that they're doing these types of things,
Starting point is 01:11:29 but I think that they're also making a long-term mistake in relationship to those who will continue to support the organization, which has done great work over the years. I don't want to take anything away from the great work that has happened. All right, folks, let me thank all three of you for being on today's panel. I certainly appreciate this truncated show. So let's do this here, folks. We're live here in Chicago for this rally for Sonia Massey. And so what we're going to do is we're going to actually go to this rally.
Starting point is 01:11:58 And so I'm going to take this microphone, go sit on the podium. And so we, again, let's go now to the podium here. Let's go. Thank you. Lord, it is by our hands that lift our hearts in this moment to our God. God, we come this evening with heavy hearts. We come this evening with a lot of our lives.
Starting point is 01:12:34 We come to you this evening with more questions than we have answers. We come with our uncertainties. We come with our brain issues. We come with our anger. We come with our braving issues. We come with our anger. We come with our hopelessness at times. We bring it all
Starting point is 01:12:50 to you. We don't pretend like we're not hurting you. We need help this evening. God, we lift up the family of Miss Sonja Masson. They need you, Lord, in this moment. And while there's a lot of political nuances surrounding her time like that,
Starting point is 01:13:09 we also realize that there is great grief and there is deep pain for the ones who loved her first. So, Lord, would you cover them in your love? Cover them in your comfort. Remind them in the dark midnight hours in your comfort remind them in the dark midnight hours that your grace is still sufficient your mercy is everlasting your truth is still in use
Starting point is 01:13:33 to all generations now God we ask that you would shake up this nation until we realize that we don't speak up, if we don't get up, if we don't seek us, if we don't get up, if we don't show up, things will continue to spiral out of control. We join in with Sonia Massey, and we don't just rebuke police brutality,
Starting point is 01:13:57 but we rebuke MAGA-ism. We rebuke Make America Great Again rhetoric that causes this kind of hatred and victory on the energy in our nation. We rebuke it in the name of Jesus. We rebuke a presidential candidate who wants to give immunity to police officers who misuse their badge and their power. We rebuke it in the name of Jesus. We rebuke any presidential candidate who says that after four more years,
Starting point is 01:14:33 we'll never have to vote again. We rebuke it in the name of Jesus. And Lord, we pray that you would wake up the Christians in this nation. Wake up the Muslims in this nation. Wake up the Muslims in this nation. Wake up the Buddhists in this nation. Wake up everybody who has a heart of love and a heart of hope. So we can join together and fight for justice, fight for our people, and fight for black women who don't have to die like this in the streets of America.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Have your way, oh Lord. Save our sons, oh Lord. Save our daughters, oh Lord. And we're not just asking you to do it, but we're going to give it everything we've got until justice rolls down like a mighty stream in the same
Starting point is 01:15:20 name that Sonia Massey called on. I call on that same name tonight. In the name of Jesus, let everybody say amen, amen, and amen. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Say her name. Justice for Sonia Mazzini! Justice! In that same spirit, in that same spirit, we ring the Leaders Network's Justice Choir with two selections. Give it up for the Leaders Network Justice Choir. Thank you. ¶¶ Thank you. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Oh, my God. Thank you. Kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, kaia, Thank you. Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers!
Starting point is 01:20:11 Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Go Tigers! Thank you. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action.
Starting point is 01:21:50 And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Business Week editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future
Starting point is 01:22:44 where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back.
Starting point is 01:23:47 In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.
Starting point is 01:24:08 We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working
Starting point is 01:24:24 and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content,
Starting point is 01:24:42 subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like, he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Thank you. Oh, yeah. Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, Jesus will, We are the champions. I will be there, I will be there, I will be there, I will be there. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Be my friend in along with our civil rights lifeguard, Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson. Give it up. Everybody on your feet. Praying for this family. We thank God for their strength, for pushing their weight. Thank God for you being here with them to support
Starting point is 01:30:41 on tonight. What a season we're in. There he is, Reverend Jesse Dashiell. Ben, Jesse is a disciple of Dr. Michael McGee. A Reverend Al Sopton. Mark is in his recall. The sight of Dr. Michael McGee, the Reverend Al Shofton, Marcus E. and his three girls, followed by a traditional mountain vision and the Master's family,
Starting point is 01:31:14 and the 22nd, Paul O'Fallon, Black O'Fallon, the one with the big grunt. He's in the house. He's in the house. He's in the house. Oh, my God. We're going to have this young man come with a spoken word. Brother Kamari and Miller are going to have to make some adjustments.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Kamari and Miller are going to come to make some adjustments. Kamari Miller is going to come and spoke a word. And then the sermonic solo will be by Santina Jackson. And then you can see the vice president of the National Action Network. We'll introduce Reverend Shaw. Look at this young man. He's from power. Talk a little bit about yourself and then give us where you come from. Alright, so my name is Marriam Miller. I'm from the West Side of Chicago. I'm an actor. I'm an actor, I've been on a few shows, such as Power, Book of War, Chicago Fire, Swagger, things of that nature. But um...
Starting point is 01:32:39 But today I'm here to do a spoken word called how many times that reflects the events of what's been going on in our world. The video is still playing over and over in my head. Still speechless. I mean, what can I say that hasn't already been said? How many times must I open my phone and check my Instagram
Starting point is 01:32:59 and email, but instead I see the death of another black male or female? How many times can we call for justice while the phone just rings and goes to voicemail? How many times can we take the disrespect? How many times can a man say, I can't breathe before the police takes me off his neck? How many times can we call ourselves the land of the free before it's actually true? How many times can we chant Black Lives Matter before they actually do? I wish I knew the answer to these questions, because one of my worst fears as a young black man is being arrested.
Starting point is 01:33:37 I try to be optimistic. Maybe today's racism isn't as bad, but all it takes is one bad cop to turn me into a hashtag. It makes me sick to my stomach thinking of the way they treat us. Slapping our face in his face. A woman was murdered moments after praying to Jesus. And me? I'm somebody's son. I'm somebody's cousin or brother. But to somebody blinded by racism, I'm'm just a color a color that needs to be destroyed
Starting point is 01:34:08 the same color as Sonia Massey, Ahmaud Arbery and George Floyd when I hear those sirens I don't feel safe I feel paranoid I feel trapped and alone an outsider, a prisoner in a place that's supposed to be my home and why? because of the skin tone?
Starting point is 01:34:28 see what's crazy is you can live in the most dangerous hood all your life and you might be perfectly fine because at least there's people that know and respect you. But you get caught at the wrong place at the wrong time and you might be killed by the person whose job it was to protect you. Seems like the endless fighting on a sick game Every year we hold up the same sign That has changed the name Justice for him, justice for her But in a buffet of the USA
Starting point is 01:34:52 Justice is rarely ever served It's not even on the menu So what do you do when you politely call the waiter And no one comes to help You go into the kitchen and demand it for yourself. Because you can be respectful and be nice and do everything right. And you can speak with peace. But peace seems to be a foreign language in a country that speaks black and white.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Walking is a crime. Talking is a crime. Breathing is a crime. Praying is a crime. Being is a crime. Rather see us in the dirt. The system wasn't built for us, but the bullets in prisons were. The system only... The system only wants us on TV if our faces aren't on our t-shirts. Rest in peace, but why can't we live in peace?
Starting point is 01:35:54 I stand in front of you here, 22 years of age, one year older than Fred Anthony when the police kicked down his door and shut up the bed where he laid. My grandfather was five years old at the time, and I wish him and I could just sit down and talk about how times have changed and those things have gone away. But the truth is, the same fears he carried are the same ones I carry today. I hope one day my grandson can have a different conversation with me, or he'll be out there chanting a new name as he protests in the streets, demanding the same, much delayed, justice and peace. Thank you. All right. We're going to have Brooke andail Rice to come, and then Mr. Monick Solo, and the introduction by the Senior Vice President of MAM. Mr. President of MAM. Good evening, everyone. Could you put your hands together for Reverend Dr. Marshall Hatch and Pastor Ira Adler,
Starting point is 01:37:08 leaders in the fight for justice here on the West Side, doing the mighty work of a great work, for Reverend Al Sharpton, to Attorney Ben Crump, to all of the other preachers in the house, and especially to the family of Sonia Massey. I am here to stand in solidarity with the Leaders Network, as well as black clergywomen leaders across Chicago and the city. As well as all of you who are gathered here today to express our deepest condolences to the family of Sonia Maxey. The truth of the matter is, while I am honored to stand here and speak, I wish I wasn't here. I wish we weren't doing this yet again. And I wish we didn't have a rubric or a blueprint
Starting point is 01:38:07 for the next time it will happen. Words seem inadequate at this moment, so we are here offering you family the ministry of presence to let you know that we care, to let you know that we see you, that we are praying for you, we weep for you, and that you are not alone. However, we are also here because we are outraged. We are angry. I am angry. We are not satisfied that, in the words of Reverend Breonna K. Parker, the crooked, cowardice cop is jailed because we know that there is a huge distance between charged and convicted. And we know just how easily justice can be denied. However, this gathering today says that we will continue to hold up the banner of justice for Sonia Massey and her family until they receive it.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Somebody say her name. I am angry that a black woman alone, here it is, holding a teapot in her own home is not saved. Not from intruders, whether real or perceived, and certainly not from those who vow to serve and protect. Pastor Sharp just prayed that we have more questions than we do have answers. Well, I have some questions right now. How do we go from fingers holding a teapot to fingers pulling a trigger? I want to know that. How do we go from fingers holding a teapot to fingers pulling a trigger? I want to know that. How do we go from a woman walking, calling on the Lord and rebuking the devil in her house coat to a man pulling a gun from his holster? How do we go from a black Mormon evoking and invoking God's name to a white police officer executing God's creation. Who is protecting black women?
Starting point is 01:40:12 Our prayer and our cry tonight is God protect black women. We pray the same prayer that Sonia prayed, Lord help. Our hope, our collective hope, our determined hope, our resilient hope remains in God and our hearts are firmly rooted in God's justice. will not be collapsed by the turmoil of injustice that she experienced at the hands of one who saw her body, who saw her hands, who heard her voice and her words and deemed her expendable. Our home, hallelujah, is still built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness. Clergywomen, stand with you, family. And tomorrow, we will gather and we will pray and we will lament tomorrow night at Grant AME Church on the South Side.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Come and join us. God bless you. Good evening everybody. My name is Ebony Riley and I serve as Senior Vice President for the National Action Network. But first and foremost and always, I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon.
Starting point is 01:41:44 I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. I'm a daughter of Sharon. Good evening, everybody. My name is Ebony Riley, and I serve as Senior Vice President for the National Action Network. But first and foremost and always, I'm a daughter of Chicago. The South Side of Chicago, but I'm a daughter of Chicago. I am outraged at the killing and murder of Sonia Matthews. Outraged. That is not what the state stands for. And I oversee our policies in Washington, D.C. And we've been, from day one, advocating for the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. Our leader, who I'm about to introduce, who's been working on this legislation, matter of fact, he just left Air Force One yesterday. From Air Force One to the streets of the West Side of Chicago, I would like to introduce you to my leader, the Reverend Alan Sharpe, founder and president of the National Action Movement. No justice, no peace. What do we want? What do we want? When do we want it?
Starting point is 01:43:06 When do we want it? When do we want it? When do we want it? Big-handed person next to you, tell them to nod now. Before... Before I make my remarks, I want us to realize the trauma and... A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week,
Starting point is 01:43:53 I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin.
Starting point is 01:44:07 And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be
Starting point is 01:44:57 no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution, but not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
Starting point is 01:45:18 This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated on the
Starting point is 01:45:35 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod.
Starting point is 01:45:54 And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Starting point is 01:46:13 Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush.
Starting point is 01:46:33 What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:46:49 And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple podcast. Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves. We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers. But we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. A wrap-away, you've got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else. But never forget yourself. Self-love made me a better dad because I realized my worth.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Never stop being a dad. That's dedication. Find out more at fatherhood.gov. Brought to you by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. The pain of this family. Long after the crowds are gone and the cameras are gone, these two children have lost a mother. And the mother has lost a daughter. When we get so insensitive that we start using our victims as props to get you a little recognition
Starting point is 01:48:12 or to get yourself off your chest, then we become no better than the people that we're fighting. So I want to set a tone. When I landed the day in Chicago, I went by. I was raised since I was 12 in movement stuff by Reverend Jesse Jackson, and he came tonight. He is in a wheelchair, but he wanted to roll in the gap for families like that. And I'm so happy he's here. You know, I don't care how tall a tree grows, you're no stronger than the root that you came from. And anybody that is disloyal to the root that's from them is a tree you can't trust and a branch that will snap off. The strength comes from where you came from.
Starting point is 01:49:35 And as long as you know that, I don't care what I do, I know where I come from. A lot of y'all clapping your mouth and all that. He believes in me where nobody is. Him and my mama. And he reminds me of that too often. So to set a tone tonight, and this is dedicated to the family. I want his oldest daughter, my little sister, Santita Jackson, to give a song that dedicates to the Mass of God. Santita Jackson. Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, With God I'm done With the troubles of the world With the troubles of this world With the troubles of this world
Starting point is 01:51:16 Soon I will be done with the troubles of this old world. I'm going home. No more to live with God No more we can wait We began waiting no more, no more. We began waiting no more, no more. We began waiting and going home. Home. Home. Home. To live with my mother Thank you. He uses people just like me and you Come on baby, do as he commands
Starting point is 01:53:37 He uses people It doesn't matter how small you are My shame'll be gone Little dance becomes much When you're placed in the light To sing All that you must be loved, ordinary love. It doesn't matter how small your machine is. Tomorrow I'll sing to you Because little becomes much
Starting point is 01:54:56 When you place it in the master's hand Give a hand for the Baroness of San Jose. Thank you. The crime that we are here tonight to deal with, it did not start on the night that Sonia was killed. It started when we allowed the continuance of a system and a practice that means a policeman or a law enforcement officer can go from one jurisdiction to the next, getting jobs all over the place. Terminated, fired, or suspended for reasons we don't know. To where he had, had we been able to pass the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act, he would have never been available to be in Sonya Massey's apartment in the first place had right here in this state
Starting point is 01:56:54 you not let police who are videotaped shot down Laquan McDonald and you let him walk there was nothing to discourage law enforcement that they could lie even on video tape
Starting point is 01:57:14 and they would not be punished so the reason that we come tonight with this family is to say enough is enough you will not require McDonald's on your master's.
Starting point is 01:57:35 The excuse was, Raquan was out the street, you didn't know what he had. But what excuse to have a woman in her house to call you? Nobody called about her, she had sometimes a mental problem. Well, whatever her problem was, what was the policeman's problem? That you would come in and shoot an unarmed woman and start making up an alibi on tape before her body was cold. There's something wrong with policing in the state of Arizona.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Oh, I know you thought nobody would care. You thought that it's just another dead black woman. You told her son five o'clock the next morning you didn't know who shot her. You just, that's just Malachi and some of the brothers. It'll be alright.
Starting point is 01:58:59 They'll be upset when you tell them something. If you ain't thought that people would come from all over this country and pack his church tonight, you'd be better than keeping your brother in your home. And if you think that you're going to come to Chicago and hold a Democratic convention
Starting point is 01:59:23 and not talk about Sonia Massa, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you that whatever goes down in this town, we've got to talk about what happened to an innocent black mama that should be alive tonight. And we're going to stand with our brother. We're going to stand with his family because that family couldn't be anyone in this room. Amen. The story as it unfolds
Starting point is 02:00:12 was one of the worst I've heard I went and stood for Trayvon Martin I went and stood with Eric Conner when I saw the tape with them children in the desert. And he said, I can't breathe.
Starting point is 02:00:34 I went all the way to George Floyd. But I never saw anything as egregious as shooting a woman, talking about some hot water, in our own house. I mean, how much are we going to take for receptance? This is a wake-up call to us. We got black faces in high places in Illinois. We'll stand up and do something. We've been delayed. You, to give us a press release.
Starting point is 02:01:19 We want justice. We want fairness. We want justice. We want fairness. We want equality. And you take your job and step back and let some people with some backbone step up and do what needs to be done. There needs to be a law in the state of Illinois called the Sonja Master Law. And in this law, we need to make it illegal for police to be switching districts. We need to make it illegal for police to be able to come with alibis right on tape. We fought for putting cameras on. Now you're
Starting point is 02:02:07 lying right here in the camera. We need a national law, but let's start in Illinois. If we elect the right congressman or the right president, we'll get the national law, but let's start right here in Illinois. Where you didn't give justice and fullness to Laquan, we're going to stay on your case to give it to someone. I want her mother and her son
Starting point is 02:02:39 and her daughter to know she didn't die in vain. We will take her name and change the laws. We can't bring her back, but we can make her name run out in history as one that changes. To show you how harmless she was, not only was she unarmed,
Starting point is 02:03:12 she looked at her killer in the face and said, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. She was a spiritual woman. She was a spiritual woman. She was a woman that was in touch with her spirituality.
Starting point is 02:03:31 And even faced a death. I heard a daughter say she was talking about death for the last three or four days. Even faced a death. She didn't call him out of his name. She didn't call him something for fame. She said, I break, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. I told Attorney Ben Crump, and I told the father of soldiers that I was going to come and stand with this family.
Starting point is 02:04:02 Yesterday, I went with President Biden for the anniversary of the Civil Rights Act because they're trying to undo everything in there. If the wrong people get in office, they will revoke the 64 Act. Remember, that's a permanent. They've already worn it down voting rights in the Supreme Court. They've already taken the framework of action. And they say over and over again, you're going to go on the Air Force One day and back. I don't care where I go. I spent three hours last night and got on another plane to be here. Because if I can ride high, I've got to ride with the massive family of Germans. So I come to Chicago tonight to tell the state of Illinois,
Starting point is 02:04:51 I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. I come to tell the city of Springfield, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus I've come to tell those who love false men I rebuke you in the name of Jesus I've come to tell every wicked, lazy cop
Starting point is 02:05:15 I rebuke you in the name of Jesus and it's not only false it's not only false it's not only false it's not in the whole world against us. We're going to stand up. We're going to do our right. We're going want us to do some tangible love for the family. This family is going to have to go through now months of back and forth to cause and hearing. They're going to be exposed to a lot of things.
Starting point is 02:06:11 And it's going to cost them. And it's our bill because they're making that trip for us. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin.
Starting point is 02:06:42 And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull,
Starting point is 02:07:00 we'll take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,
Starting point is 02:07:23 have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1,
Starting point is 02:08:09 Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast.
Starting point is 02:08:33 We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means
Starting point is 02:08:47 to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill.
Starting point is 02:09:03 NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, Season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves. We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers. But we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. Arapahoe, you got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else.
Starting point is 02:09:54 But never forget yourself. Self-love made me a better dad because I realized my worth. Never stop being a dad. That's dedication. Find out more at fatherhood.gov. Brought to you by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. I come up here. Where's Uncle? Come on.
Starting point is 02:10:13 Uncle Raymond. And I want to come on some other thing. Now that I'm with you, I want to come on something down to the bottom. I want us to follow the children this is family I want to raise an offering
Starting point is 02:10:35 I want y'all to kill tonight every dime for the help of this young lady and this young man that's got to grow up without their mom. I told them earlier, I don't know if she's going to college or whatever they need. We're going to raise some money tonight to support the family.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Y'all running around talking about it takes a village to raise a child will act like a good village tonight. Talking about how that might not take no more. We won't take a lot more until we show love for one another. So I want
Starting point is 02:11:24 everybody here to give to the best of their ability. If you're going to write a check, write it to Raymond Madison and Uncle Raymond will take care of distributing it
Starting point is 02:11:40 evenly to the two. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Don't get ahead of me. I've been raising offerings for a long time. We're in the Baptist church. You're raising a Methodist offering. You ain't got it.
Starting point is 02:12:04 I'm going to start. I want some of you that can give more to do more. And I want you to come down and either put a check or pledge or cash in the basket as the young folks hold. I want, where's, Colin, give me my checkbook. I'm going to start from National Action Network. I'm not going to send it back. I'm going to get it checked tonight.
Starting point is 02:12:35 And I want everybody to get their check on their, whatever they can, ready. I don't care if it's credit cards y'all take credit here in Marshall Hatch we take
Starting point is 02:12:52 everything we get or express I want women don't come yet I haven't told y'all what I want I want everybody that can give to the best of your ability. I want to start from National Action Network, I'm going to start with $5,000. $5,000. Now I need about $500 to come with $100.
Starting point is 02:13:28 I need $100. $100 or more. Come quick. Come quick. I need $100. I need $100. You know you got to. Come on.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Don't go eat after the rally. Go home. Give me the $100. Come on. Come on. come on, come on. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 02:13:51 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Come on, pay me some $100. Can you get a cent? Yeah, you can get a cent. 100,000 Thank you. M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S
Starting point is 02:14:52 M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S
Starting point is 02:14:58 M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S
Starting point is 02:14:58 M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S
Starting point is 02:14:58 M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S
Starting point is 02:14:58 M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S
Starting point is 02:14:59 M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S M-A-S-S All right, brothers and sisters, those of you that want to sell, we sell it to you. Sell it to 573-578-5022. Can you put that on the screen?
Starting point is 02:15:43 573--8-25 5-0-2-2 Credit cards? Yeah. Credit cards. If they do a credit card, it's going to us. Credit cards. How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards?
Starting point is 02:16:07 How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards?
Starting point is 02:16:13 How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards?
Starting point is 02:16:13 How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards?
Starting point is 02:16:14 How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards?
Starting point is 02:16:14 How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards?
Starting point is 02:16:15 How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? How many people got swipe cards? $5, $7, $8, $9, $10, $11, $12, $13, $14, $15, $16, $17, $18, $19, $20, $21, $22, $23, $24, $25, $26, $27, $28, $29, $30, $31, $32, $33, $34, $35, $36, $37, $38, $40, $40, $45, $46, $47, $49, $50, $51, $52, $52, $53, $54, $54, $55, $56, $56, $57, $57, $58, $59, $59, $59, $59, $59, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60, $60 giving $2,500. $2,500. Leaders network is giving $1,000. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Okay, there's the number on the screen now. The number on the screen, if you give it to them, you can raise it to the children. And the next young from Chicago, he's, $1,000. Oh, thank you. We are here for your praise. I got that now. I got this. I said it before. I got it.
Starting point is 02:19:11 I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 02:19:16 I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 02:19:19 I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 02:19:19 I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 02:19:20 I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 02:19:21 I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 02:19:22 I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. The folks outside, this is all. The public is all. Hey, we got a correction.
Starting point is 02:19:27 This is not our work. We need to give you this. This is what we're trying to do. We're trying to do. We're trying to do. We're trying to do. We're trying to do. Chief.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Yeah. I can do something. All right. All right. All right. We're trying to do. We're not finished. Ours can't read. chief okay we need it let me give him the cab, Jack. All right, this is the cab, Jack. I'm writing this down in the picture up there. He thought he said sale. He made it sale.
Starting point is 02:20:10 So now this is the cab, Jack. R-A-T-I-R-E-U. Retire. 1-S-G-6-0. That's Republican. 1-S-G-6-0 1-S-G-6-0
Starting point is 02:20:32 I'm going to get that and put it on the screen. Alright. Shh. Sampai jumpa. Thank you. I want these young people and their fathers and their grandfathers. To see how the people love you. And that we raised. Somewhere between 80 and 10,000 dollars. Now I'm not showing you for love. Show the way that you love. We got you.
Starting point is 02:21:58 We got you. All right. Well, you sit with them. Don't give me the beans, Captain. All right. Wait, wait. Wait. Let me say, several years ago, maybe 15 years ago, there was a young man that was killed in a boote, Florida. I went down and marched and stood with that case. And I found a very strong, fearless black lawyer,
Starting point is 02:23:25 and the young man that called. About three years later, he called me and said, they killed a boy here in Sanford's Rock. I'd never heard of Sanford's Rock. Glad to see Roland Martin. Roland Martin at the house, y'all give him a hand. I give credit to those that tell our story all the time. Everybody else tell it half the time. So I give you all half recognition.
Starting point is 02:24:00 You just got it. I give rolling full. Rolling tells how it's done. This young man called me about three years later and said they killed a young man in Sanford, Florida. I said, where is Sanford, Florida? He said, I'll tell you, lady, he said, it's getting a little news in Florida, but I really need it to go national. And would you come down here and do something to help blow it up? People tell you, Ms. Donna, that Al Sharpton likes publicity. That's exactly what I like. But don't nobody call me to keep a secret.
Starting point is 02:24:44 They call me to put some convincing on their mouth. You don't need an activist if he don't keep a secret. They killed my mama, but don't tell nobody. Don't tell anybody. And keep telling them to get justice. So I told him to come on he brought me to Paris and we went on my TV show that night young man
Starting point is 02:25:12 that was killed Trayvon Martin that same lawyer has been with us ever since every case every tragedy when families had no lawyer had nothing every case every tragedy when families had no lawyer
Starting point is 02:25:28 had nothing he stood in the gap and I started calling him the attorney general of black America I've known him I've known him now for almost two decades we've worked together
Starting point is 02:25:43 I've never seen him do anything but push for justice for the family. And he's passionate for the cause. And all kinds of deals that they try to give him, he won't take them. Things that are not correct. And that's why he can call me anytime. And I'm there. I'm on the way to the airport. They said, Ben Grubb called. I said, okay, am I leaving from LaGuardia or Kennedy? A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
Starting point is 02:26:23 Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business,
Starting point is 02:26:43 taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Business Week editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
Starting point is 02:27:24 But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 02:28:11 Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back.
Starting point is 02:28:29 In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is.
Starting point is 02:28:54 Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corps vet, MMA fighter, Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.
Starting point is 02:29:10 It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before.
Starting point is 02:29:45 I mean, he's not only my parent, like he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids,
Starting point is 02:30:00 the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. I had a man with more integrity and leech than the Attorney General of Black America, Attorney Ben Crosby. Now, I'm giving up for our civil rights leader, Reverend Al Shackleton, who always answers the bell. He answers the bell for Trayvon Martin. He answers the bell for Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. He answers the bell for Tamim Rice. He answers the bell for Breonna Taylor. He answered the bell for Breonna Taylor.
Starting point is 02:30:45 He answered the bell for Austin Stern. He answered the bell for Stephon Clark. He answered the bell for Maude Aubrey. He answered the bell for George Floyd. He answered the bell for Terry Nichols. He answered the bell for Devontae Mitchell. He answered the bell for Jacob Blake Sr. and Jr. He answered the bell for Alvin Motley. He answered the bell for Sandra Plange. He answered the bell for Adjani
Starting point is 02:31:14 Jefferson. He answered the bell for Botham James. He answered the bell for Oscar Grant. He answered the bell for Terrence Pratchett. He answered the bell for Eric Gardner. He answered the bell for Sonia Massey. The Reverend Al Shelton. Nice, nice, nice work. President and Father, my big brother, my big brother, my co-counsel. Will you never say thank you enough. Grab your hand.
Starting point is 02:31:52 Yeah, it matters when people answer the bell before the cameras show up. For a mere lot, before people show up, he answers the bell. And that's what's important. It counts when you're there in the beginning, not when the bandwagon is taking full effect. So thank you, I want to acknowledge Reverend Al Paine, Hon to Reverend Jesse Jackson. As a black lawyer, we have one of our trailblazers, one of our sheroes present here who hails from Chicago, Illinois. She was the first woman to be president of the National Bar Association.
Starting point is 02:33:02 Attorney Arjen Harbour. Y'all please give a big round of applause. Thank you, Queen. Brothers and sisters, I won't be long because I know it's been a long day. But I would be remiss if I didn't tell you all we have breaking news today. We have breaking news because of you all.
Starting point is 02:33:37 And the breaking news is this. Attorney Natalie Jackson, Attorney Robert Nugent, the breaking news is this. Today, we came to Chicago, Illinois, and we knew we were having a rally. But what we hadn't prepared for was to have a press conference. But we found out over the weekend that the police in Springfield, Illinois, right through Sahara, we found out that they had filed a grievance on behalf of Deputy Sean Grayson for Kim and Sonny Ambassador, the grievance was for him to be reinstated as a police officer, for him to be released from jail, for him to be given back pay, and for him to get his job back as a law enforcement officer because what they said he did was self-defense. And I said,
Starting point is 02:34:56 did they see the same video that we saw how he shot him, her in the face? Did they see the same video? And because we all stood up with an uproar from New York all across America, 25 cities, right, to be commanded, everybody stood up for Justice Fasalia Maxey. And we used her words. We used her words to the police union that tried to exonerate this so-called cop. We used her words, Jacob Blake said.
Starting point is 02:35:40 We said, police union, we rebuke you in the name of Jesus. And because we said it in unison and we rebuke him in the name of Jesus, the breaking news today is that the police union rescinded their grievance and said that they will never get to this long forward and that he should stay in jail.
Starting point is 02:36:14 That's what happens when we stand together, that's what happens. Now, I want to briefly show you all this because we want to make the case. You know, sometimes, Reverend Al, we need more than video, and that's unbelievable. I know Devontae Mitchell's family is here from Milwaukee.
Starting point is 02:36:39 They got video. They got affidavits. They got video, they got affidavits, they got statements, and it's been 31 days now, and nobody's still been arrested for killing him at the Hyatt Hotel. Well, if you remember, you preached the eulogy for them. Devontae Mitchell, will y'all family stand up? This is Devontae Mitchell's family who still fights for justice, who came all the way from Milwaukee to stay in the Florida Massacre.
Starting point is 02:37:06 We got the video. They ain't released the video yet, but thank God there was a box down. So, yeah, last Friday, there was the finding of the autopsy release and it corroborated what we saw in that video, Attorney Lamar. queen. This beautiful mother of two teenage children was killed just like Malachi was told that morning, that the bullet entered her through right below her left eye, and it exited behind her ear, below her ear, in the back of her neck. And what that confirms for us, brothers and sisters, is that the officer was shooting in a downward trajectory when he shot Sonia Masters. Can you imagine? You see the video
Starting point is 02:38:30 and you see her say when she's looking down the barrel of the gun, she suits down Reverend Al and she says, I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry. And even though she said, I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry. And even though she said, I'm sorry with death and death,
Starting point is 02:38:47 that coward still shot her and Adele would project. You can see on the video as he braces his arm. And that's why, brothers and sisters, when you couple that and you couple the fact
Starting point is 02:39:04 that he engaged her, he took two or three steps around the counter to get close to Reverend Al, to, I believe if you're looking at the video, to get her in her every face. And he shot her in her face. And so brothers and sisters, brothers and sisters, and the fact that he had no remorse, none whatsoever. I mean, he told his partner who knew something wrong had happened, so I'm going to go get my C, I'm going to get my medical kit. He said, no need to do that, that's a head shot.
Starting point is 02:39:59 She's done. That's what he said Dr. Carl and then if that wasn't bad enough there's a part of the video now you see there's a part of this video where he says just let her F'n
Starting point is 02:40:18 and he stops himself just short of saying just let her die and if that's not bad enough, Reverend I, he did as he walks out, after the other officers get there, he, they say, are you okay? And he says, I'm good. While Sonia Massey is bleeding pools of blood in the house, struggling for breath, that coward says the FNB was crazy. We looked at that video. She was never aggressive.
Starting point is 02:41:00 She was never threatening. She never moved fast. She never posed a threat to him at all. But yet, he didn't see her as human. He didn't see her as worthy of dignity. He didn't see her worthy of respect. I mean, he saw her like Malcolm X said, America sees black women. The most neglected, the most disrespected, and the most unprotected people in America. That's what he saw.
Starting point is 02:41:30 But like Reverend Al said, to be good, like Reverend Al said, I'm not hugging, like Reverend Al said, Teresa Hayes, like Reverend Al said, we saw a black queen. We saw a beautiful mother. We saw a child of God. We saw the black queen. We saw a beautiful mother. We saw a child of God. We saw the best of us. We saw somebody who prayed with mother God. Who prayed with son. Who gave her all for her children.
Starting point is 02:41:56 Who always loved them. Who always loved them. Who always told them that God would never leave you. And that's why when she said, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus, she knew that he wouldn't get away with it. She knew. And so, brothers and sisters, I am making the case like this before we bring a family member, I want to to say something, there's some great leaders.
Starting point is 02:42:27 Well now, you know, they tell us there's nothing new under the sun. Nothing new under the sun. And just like George Floyd's video when it was released in 2020, it shocked the conscience of America. Yeah? It was released, and that video affected our community and had an impact on our community, and it had an impact on the presidential election. And just like in 2020, this Sonia Massey video is affecting our community. And it's going to have an impact on the 2024 presidential election. When we elect the first woman to be president of the United States of America. When we elect my friend, first president, President Harris,
Starting point is 02:43:30 will you vote in a poll? Sonia Mass is playing. It's going to be for that matter. So let's vote for not only President Harris, let's vote for Sonia Mass. We got somebody, a family member, Let's vote for Sonia Massey. We got somebody, a family member, who we've been waiting for. Yes, yes. We want Sonia Massey's father, Mr. James Wilbur, who just flew through the night to be here with you all, to come up and just say a word about how he's fighting for justice and how he has mixed words.
Starting point is 02:44:11 He said he wants the sheriff of Salomon County to resign because his daughter's blood is on their hands. So come on up, Mr. Wilbur. And as he comes up right now, like y'all, Mr. Wilbur said something so profound when we first talked. And he said, if this would have happened before I had that surgery, I don't know if my own heart could have taken watching my daughter get killed like that. Y'all, this is Miss Donna and James' baby girl. It's Miss Donna's only child. They did that too. So we're going to have Mr. Wilbur come up and Tamika Mallory to say, hey, when you break the glass,
Starting point is 02:45:16 when you come up to us, you can say a word to Mr. Wilbur. I just want us, I told Mr. Wilbur, I won't forget that part of him. I want to wait to see him. And then it played with me. But he had stood up for his dog. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.
Starting point is 02:46:00 The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on everybody's business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing.
Starting point is 02:46:38 So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.
Starting point is 02:47:10 From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 02:47:41 Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and three on May 21st and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th, ad free at lava for good. Plus on Apple podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott.
Starting point is 02:47:56 And this is season two of the war on drugs. But we are back in a big way, in a very big way, real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit man we got uh ricky williams nfl player hasman trophy winner it's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves music stars marcus king
Starting point is 02:48:17 john osborne for brothers osborne we have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things.
Starting point is 02:48:40 Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 02:49:08 We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, like, he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it. I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more.
Starting point is 02:49:31 Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Thank you. this is the day that the Lord has made amen and we will be glad and rejoicing I've been told that I talk
Starting point is 02:50:06 too much about God I'm not going to tell you who told me that it was a family member but I rebuke her in the name of Jesus tell them this guy tell them this girl But I rebuke her in the name of Jesus.
Starting point is 02:50:33 I've been in this journey about 66 years now. And Jesus has never failed me yet. Amen. Amen. The only reason why I'm here talking to y'all, and I appreciate and love of each one of you. It's been hard. Planes were delayed. We had to go from one American to United. just the outpouring of love
Starting point is 02:51:07 amongst us that's amazing everywhere I go when I walk into restaurants people are saying can I hug you can I take a picture with you?
Starting point is 02:51:29 I just, I'm amazed at the kind of love we're showing toward one another. But what I want to understand, the sheriff of Sagamon County had a, he spoke at a rally, and he wanted to ask our forgiveness. Now, anybody else in my family can forgive me, but I'm not. Because he's got my baby's blood on his hands. He needs to go. I hope that somebody, if there's a mechanism in Illinois to recall him and get rid of him, if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. But if it takes somebody in Sagamore County to run against him and get rid of him that way, you can go that way.
Starting point is 02:52:37 Or I can move to Sagamore County. And I can tell you, I think I would be a formidable opponent for him. That's your dog. That was your dog, Mr. Yelper. That was your dog, Mr. Yelper. That was your dog. So he's going to stay around a little bit longer.
Starting point is 02:53:01 I think he's up to 25 or 26. Yes, sir. So if he doesn't resign, he's going to go. You announcing? I need to know. I'm not announcing my family's success, man. Okay. But I will.
Starting point is 02:53:18 All right. I will. Yes, sir. I see so many folks in my family. Y'all need to stand up. I need y'all to see. Everybody in the family stand up. Everybody in my family stand up.
Starting point is 02:53:39 We're going to family and the master family. Stand up. We're going to family and the master family. Right? Thank you. So I just want to let my brothers and sisters know here in Chicago that I love y'all. And ain't nothing y'all can do about it. All right? Amen. I love you, man. Thank you, Mr. Wilbur. Right now, this young lady who raised up a national network, who is a ferocious, fearless,
Starting point is 02:54:37 courageous, brilliant, beautiful leader, the founder of Westfield Freedom, Talika Mallory, who spoke to Justice for real, to say, spoke to Justice for Patrick Burr, I'll tell you the truth, and you know, as has been said, I was raised in National Action Network, and I heard Reverend Al Sharpton say that we are only as strong as our roots. And so I want to join him in raising $10,000 for Ms. Nassif's family. And so you gave $1,000 today, and we will raise another $9,000 to match the $10,000 we owe you. Brothers and sisters, I am joining you here today in solidarity.
Starting point is 02:55:36 I bring you greetings on behalf of Until Freedom, and I bring you greetings on behalf of 35 cities across this country that stood with the Massey family on this past Sunday, International Day of Morning. Many of you participated, folks who are watching online, people all the way in Albuquerque stood up for Sonia Massey this Sunday. We organized this effort because we know that Sonia Massey cannot just be a social media post. She cannot just be someone that we talk about and say we're angry and not put boots on the ground
Starting point is 02:56:20 so that this entire nation is on notice that we will fight for Sonia Massey until it is the end. Justice completely served. I am here to stand in solidarity with all of the local organizers. People in Chicago who have been fighting for a long time, standing up for Laquan McDonald and also Dexter Reed. Those families still deserve justice as well. We are smarter than they think. They think that we got an arrest and we will go home. But we've seen fired cops. We've seen arrests.
Starting point is 02:57:06 We've also seen movements in support of officers that ultimately help them to be released early or not in prison at all. How do I know? Because in Louisville, Kentucky, we had arrests. We had indictments. We had fired officers. And yet, not even for two days has anyone done time,
Starting point is 02:57:31 served any time, and any accountability for what happened to Breonna Taylor. My Lord. And so while we're on this topic, Breonna Taylor being murdered in her home, there is a sick trend happening across this nation of black women being killed in their homes. Right here, Rekia Boyd was killed in her home.
Starting point is 02:57:57 Eleanor Bumpers in New York City in the 1980s was killed in her home. Ayanna Stanley Jones in 2010 killed in her home. Ayanna Stanley Jones in 2010 killed in her home. Megan Hockaday killed in her home. Deborah Danner killed in her home in the Bronx, New York. Pamela Turner killed right outside of her home by an officer who knew where she lived. He had encountered her before and he took her life for no reason at all. A Tatiana Jefferson shot through a window while playing
Starting point is 02:58:32 a video game with her nephew. Killed in their homes. It is a sick trend that black women are not even safe inside of our homes and we cannot allow this to continue. Now let me just say, I'm the wild card. See, I'm too radical. It's okay for us to be excited about Kamala Harris. I'm an AKA, she's an AKA, all right now. Absolutely, ladies. And there's no group of women that's more excited about Kamala Harris than we are. But it is okay, black people, for us to demand that we get what we need to be protected in this country. It is okay for us to be excited and have the band. And we know that Vice President Harris is committed to the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act because she's one of the original co-authors. So it should not be a long stretch or a hard ask for it
Starting point is 02:59:45 there to be a renewal and for her to be an advocate for the strengthening and the passing of the George Floyd justice and policing act. And let me tell you why it must be strengthened because yes there is the
Starting point is 03:00:01 registry component which would track officers like this one who killed Sonia Nassif. But without there being teeth in it, accountability measures where federal funds are pulled from police departments that commit egregious acts and don't do anything about it and hire other officers like this one. Unless that happens, it's all lit service. It's thoughts and prayers. We need real team. We need federal intervention into these police departments across the country. And it is also okay for us to look at the other candidate who has the audacity to say and to fix his mouth that he wants to see immunity
Starting point is 03:00:47 from prosecution for police officers and tell him that he has been rebuked in the name of Jesus. I joined Sonia Massey's father today in saying, we're not at the forgiveness part, Mr. Kavishji. We didn't get there yet. The first thing that we need is for you to open the records of the other officers who are in your department, find the criminals, fire them all, and lock them up if they have ever taken the life of one of our brothers and sisters. Y'all give it up for the Queen of the United States. And Dr. Hatch, I want you to know, I believe, just like we were on a historic journey to justice with George Floyd, I believe we are on a historic journey to justice with George Floyd,
Starting point is 03:01:50 I believe we're on a historic journey to justice with Sonia Madison. And it will be documented that New Mount Pimple, Mr. Ambassador's son, was a big son of that journey to justice. Let's give a great round of applause to Dr. Harris, the shelter of this cathedral. We thank you Dr. Hatch. Now, you know I can't get where I want to go, so I'm very kind when we ask for a quick permission. So we're going to ask for permission to have your pulpit for more minutes, and then we're going to wind up and beg your forgiveness for taking all these people who ain't got their crops up in your poor people. up another great speaker. We want to bring up some of the
Starting point is 03:02:48 families who didn't make it robbery to be here with Sonia Mack's family. Some of them even fight for justice to this day. Some of them who didn't get justice but yet they still say we're going to stand for your family to get justice even though
Starting point is 03:03:04 it is making us. I want to have my man, my big brother, I mean if you ever see him in a TV interview, you know he's spoken that God on his truth. We
Starting point is 03:03:19 want Big Jimmy, Jacob Clay Senior, his father was shot, I mean his son was shot and paralyzed in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Oh, can you run for me? Okay, well he was here. You come on up. Yeah, Jacob Blake Sr. Oh, there you go. Come on up, Big Jenny. Come on up., come on up. Y'all give J the place he's a big round of applause. We still remember your son. We will never forget him. Shot him seven times in the back. Attorney, be out of your mud working with us on that case.
Starting point is 03:04:04 We keep fighting for it. And then we got the father and the uncle of a real rock who after George Floyd was killed on his couch, sleeping behind his business, Tamika, they kicked in his front door too and shot him and killed him on the couch. Y'all give it up for Andre Locke and Andrew Cunney. All the way from Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Starting point is 03:04:36 And we have the family of Alan Motley, a native son of Chicago, who was visiting his family in Memphis, Tennessee, and the Kroger grocery store security guard said his music was too loud and shot and killed him. And we had to fight to get justice for him. But everybody standing, everybody from Chicago, come on up and stand with the Massachusetts. And then, as we have talked about them previously, I mean, the blood is still fresh. They're still mourning and fighting. The brother and sister of Devontae Mitchell in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, who got a video. All kinds of videos. Y'all know in the Hyatt Hotel, there's videos everywhere. But yet they got videos of Apple Davis, but yet you're over there. But just like we're going to fight and get justice for Sonny Masters We're gonna get justice for the five-day bitches.
Starting point is 03:05:45 Y'all please come up, divide those bitches fast, and stand up for Madison now. And before I have two Illinois leaders, one is a great civil rights leader, and the other is a great civil rights leader, the other is a great civil rights lawyer, say just a word. I want Malachi and Summer to come and raise them, to come and announce how much we raised tonight, and they just wanted to say thank you.
Starting point is 03:06:19 Some of you think you can do it? You want your big brother to do it? Yes, sir. Malachi, you want to say how much you raised and thank the people? A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Banik-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business,
Starting point is 03:07:10 taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Starting point is 03:07:49 Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1.
Starting point is 03:08:18 Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English.
Starting point is 03:08:50 I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This has kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
Starting point is 03:09:05 It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz
Starting point is 03:09:29 Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 03:09:46 And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey. We just kind of knew from the beginning that we were family. They showcased a sense of love that I never had before. I mean, he's not only my parent, he's like my best friend. At the end of the day, it's all been worth it.
Starting point is 03:10:17 I wouldn't change a thing about our lives. Learn about adopting a teen from foster care. Visit AdoptUSKids.org to learn more. Brought to you by AdoptUSKids, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the Ad Council. Thank you. Oh, my Lord, thank you all so much for making sure that the village is not just saying lip service. Our village is going to stand with their fathers, and we're going to make sure every dream they've ever had for them comes true. Yeah, I didn't know she made it or not, but I understand. The mother of a Lennon Jones, a 16-year-old young black teenager, her daughter was in a facility that was supposed to help troubled youth,
Starting point is 03:11:20 and they ended up killing her. Ms. Charlotte Gardner, where you at? We need to come on, come on up. Tamika, this is another young black woman who has lost her sense of humor. Y'all, let's not forget her daughter. Because her daughter now says as much as me and I am.
Starting point is 03:11:39 Ms. Charlotte Gardner, y'all do a message now. And you'll see how horrific it is. Right now, we're going to have Teresa Haley briefly address you, because Teresa is right next to Ray Ferry of the North, and she knows where all the bodies are buried. She was the past NUMBA city president, and she's been fighting against the enemy number one for a long time. Y'all give her a great round of applause for the freedom you are in tonight, Teresa Adams. You're a national hillbilly. Thank you. Good evening. It is truly a blessing to be here and the Massey family know that I love them.
Starting point is 03:12:26 I was terrified. I was devastated as a black woman when Sonia's cousin called me and said, we need you to come over right away, Miss Haley. And I said, what's going on? And she said, my cousin was shot. They murdered her. I went over to the house thinking that the crime scene had been cleaned up. But this young lady was on her knees with a body towel sopping up her cousin's blood. It hurt me to my core. And I looked at her and I said, what are you doing? I'm trying to get this house cleaned up before the babies come home. Because at 5 o'clock that afternoon, we were having a balloon release for Sonia. Sonia's mother was really upset because she had to find out that her daughter was murdered by the deputy on the news.
Starting point is 03:13:21 I don't call it a murder. I call it an assassination. You have to call it what it is. Call it a fake assassination. And black people are extremely annoyed that you did an assassination since 1908. 1908 led to the start of the NAACP as we know it today because a white woman lied and they're still lying and said that she was raped by a black man. And so what white people did is they went
Starting point is 03:13:50 around Springfield and they said, who did this? They said he did and he did. They had never seen these individuals before. They called and knocked on doors and said, is your father home? Is your brother home? Is your daddy home? And when that black man stepped to the door, they shot him and they hung him in a tree
Starting point is 03:14:05 so he can be an example for everybody to see. That was called the 1908 race riots that led to the NAACP. The home of Abraham Lincoln. The home of freedom. Freedom ain't free if we're not free. And we are not free, people. I am asking you all to come to Springfield, Illinois. The home of the 1908 race riots.
Starting point is 03:14:29 A black woman like me can't ride around in her car without getting harassed by the police. We are sick and tired of being sick and tired. And we need you all to show up for the lawmakers and the lawbreakers' talk. To the Capitol City and do what we're doing here in Chicago, doing it in Springfield. I met Ben Trump a long time ago. We were down in Florida at a convention, and we heard that Trayvon Martin had been killed, and he was going out to do a rally.
Starting point is 03:14:57 We left the convention. We went over here with him. When I first became the state president, Laquan McDonald was shot in the back 16 times. And they said, what are you guys going to do? We got together and preached and we took 16 passes. And we marched around City Hall. No justice, no peace. No justice, no peace.
Starting point is 03:15:19 No justice, no peace. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name. I expect to see all of you in Springfield, Illinois. Thank you. No justice, no peace. No justice, no peace.
Starting point is 03:15:38 Thank you, Lisa Hinton. Hey, because we gotta fight this battle, not only how... Oscar Gray, come on, Uncle Bobby, I said Oscar Gray. Yeah, all the way from Oakland, California, the one and only Uncle Bobby, the uncle of Oscar Gray. Yes, Uncle Bobby, Q-Field station. He looks so smooth here. Can you see him out there? Hey, Uncle Bobby, you got to tell us when you show up. You got to show up.
Starting point is 03:16:13 Thank you, Uncle Bobby. Thank you. We got to fight this ballot, not only in the court of law, but in the court of public opinion, in the legislative halls. We got to fight it everywhere to get full justice. Full justice for Sophie Madison. Full justice. The Guam governor had charges.
Starting point is 03:16:38 Kim Fox did her job and got a conviction. But then the judge gave him a slap on the wrist. Just a slap on the wrist. Just a slap on the wrist. Can y'all imagine if a black person shot a white person 16 times in the back? I mean, the first bullet put McGuire on the ground, and then the other 16 bullets was just evil. Evil. And they gave him all the service.
Starting point is 03:17:08 Three years? Can you imagine what a black person would have served if they didn't kill him? Well, the same justice had deadly, shined, graced, received if Sonny Lassiter would have been a white woman. We want the same justice for him killing a black woman. We keep fighting these battles, they keep coming in our house and shooting us. Aaron and Roger, of course. I mean, Bo and Jane. I mean, where can black people be sent? So we keep fighting on every front we have. All our allies are civil.
Starting point is 03:17:57 I want to have my brother from another brother who's a great civil rights lawyer with my co-counselor and George Floyd co-counselor Tyreen Nichols, and we're talking about how we can help the legislators find their courage and pass the Zola-Massie law. Attorney Tony Rodgers, you want to take it now? Thank you, everyone. And right where we're now, I didn't get a chance to say hello to you, but pretty soon Thank you everyone and forever now I didn't get a chance to say hello to you but pretty soon you're going to have to change your messaging
Starting point is 03:18:30 from America's Black Attorney General to just Attorney General because there is nobody that I would follow into battle like this man right here for what he does He is, I does. He is our leader. He is our
Starting point is 03:18:47 leader without a doubt. We've got to tell you folks, the chief of the Secret Service resigned when there was a failed assassination attempt. Why isn't there a resignation for an assassination attempt? That's what needs to happen right now.
Starting point is 03:19:08 And we're going to fix the safety out of the past a couple of years ago in Illinois. And it was supposed to be the reform of the reform of policing. Well, now we know that it's not. And we have to go in and caulk those holes and make sure that we fix it. And with Anjanette Young here, I don't know if you know Anjanette. We have to go in and caulk those holes and make sure that we fix it. And with Anjanette Young here, I don't know if you know Anjanette, you came around to the table, and you brought the greatest activist in the city of Chicago. This is the great woman who stood up to dozens of police officers in her home.
Starting point is 03:19:47 Literally stood them up. And we're making it here. It just seems to have gone backwards when you were raided in Providence, right? She was naked in her home when they raided. Naked. Just absolutely. And so, Ben, when you're here for the DMC and Jeanette, we're all committed, when we have everybody encircled within us, to make sure that we tell the governor, that we tell President Hart, that we tell Speaker Welch, that we tell Congressman Mazzei, that we want to fix this hole, the safety act is flawed, police officers should not be moving around police departments until there is at least a sleep period in between from where they go from one place to another and proper vetting.
Starting point is 03:20:38 Ben, I will be happy to follow your will. Pastor Sonia, Master is up! Pastor Sonia, Master is up! Pastor Sonia, Master is up! Pastor Sonia, Master is up! Pastor Sonia, Master is up! Pastor Sonia, Master is up! Brother and sisters, as we conclude, I want you all,
Starting point is 03:21:02 and Dr. Hatch, you can come on from there, in this time of a big day because we are in the house of the Lord. But as you come up, Dr. Hatch, I want everybody to stand on their feet to let this family and all these families know that you all are with them and we gonna get justice for Sonia Masters! And until we get justice, we rebu went well by the time. So y'all, give him a great round of applause. This great man is God. Thank you for your leadership.
Starting point is 03:22:11 Thank you, Councilman, while we're standing on our way home. Our prayers that the Lord will bless you and keep you. The Lord will make the Lord's face shine upon you, smile on everyone, and give you divine peace. And all that receive that in Jesus' name, say amen. God bless you all. You all right, man? Yeah. All right. Thank you. I'm real revolutionary right now. Black media. He this man, Black Media. He makes sure that our stories
Starting point is 03:24:27 are told. Thank you for being the voice of Black America, Roland. I love y'all. All momentum we have now, we have to keep this going. The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Black Star Network and Black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't
Starting point is 03:24:44 be Black-owned media and be scape. You can't be Black-owned media and be scared. It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs home. You dig? I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future
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Starting point is 03:25:59 Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to it. It makes it real.
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