#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Ind. GOP Rebukes Trump, DOJ Targets Minneapolis Schools, Dems Grill DHS/FBI, Letitia James Cleared

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

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It is time to bring the funk on Rolla Martin on Filmet on Filmet unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Let's go. The Indianapolis star website, Indiana lawmakers reject Trump's mid-decade redistricting push. The Indiana Senate voted overwhelmingly against Trump's mid-decade redistricting push. Folks, this is a huge, huge decision. Donald Trump, first of all, here we go. Carol, hit Congressman Carson right now.

Y'all, we are live. Congressman Andre Carson. He is African-American. him there from Indianapolis. His seat was one of the two they were trying to get rid of, so he just hit me back. So hold on y'all. Carol is calling you now. I told you,

see, we don't play, so we go ahead and do this here. So I'm texting him right back. Okay, all right. So text him, Carol. If he ain't answered the phone, he might be in the committee hearing, so text him, and y'all work it out. So get them on the phone audio, get them on the phone, video, FaceTime, Zoom, the mix, it don't matter. Let's make it happen.

So y'all, here's the whole deal. Trump has been pushing, not just pushing, he has been demanding, ordering all of these Republicans to redistrict. We saw what happened in Texas. They bend it at the knee, did what he wanted. Republicans did the exact same thing in Missouri, getting rid of the seat of Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver. They've been doing the same thing in other states. Well, they have been putting lots of pressure. You might remember, when Donald Trump called Minnesota Governor Tim Walls retarded, it was an Indiana state senator who has a special needs child who's said, no, I'm not doing this.

I'm not voting for those maps. These senators in their Indiana have been getting death threats. Donald Trump even called them to the White House putting pressure on them. Even said if they oppose him, he was going to target them in a

campaign. Well, they said, hey man, do what you got to do. We don't believe in this. We're not going to do this. And so that's exactly what they did. That was maximum pressure of being put upon them. I mean, every facet of the party, the Heritage Foundation,

Turning Point USA, Donald Trump, Jr., all of these people said that they were going to be targeting these people, they were not going to get reelected. They did not care. But Republicans in Indiana have stood up to the fascist Donald Trump. This is the story here in a monumental rebuke

of Donald Trump's wishes. Indiana's supermajority, Republican State Legislature, became the first to formally reject his push for mid-decade redistricting. Folks, the vote wasn't even close. Look at this. It was 31 to 19 against. The no-votes got more than a constitutional majority

needed to kill the bill once and for all. Previously under cited State Senator Greg Good, who had been subjected to threats to reveal his no-vote in a speech before the vote saying he was confident, my vote reflects the will of my constituents. His spokesman from a bomb threat was called into the office as he was speaking against the bill.

This is what he said. Indiana did this just four years ago. The map produced was celebrated by legislative leadership, and Indiana served as a national model for getting things right through Hoosier Common Sense. That's how you actually do it. Let's go to my panel right now. Dr. Greg Carr, Chairman, Department of African-American Studies,

Howard University joins us right here. Glad to have him on the show. Cameron Trimble also joins us on the show. Formerly worked in the Biden White House. He also is, of course, talk to young folks every single day with his podcast, hit politics media, and we'll be joined in a bit

by Thelma Lawyer Bay Anderson all throughout shut up and prosecute out of Dallas. Greg, this is really huge here. These Republicans, Trump put all kind of pressure, and they were like, damn that. They got a super majority. They could have passed this. It already passed the Indiana House.

But these senators stood up and they said, no, we did it four years ago. Damn it, we're not going to do it right now. And what it would have done was wiped out. Right now, it's seven Republicans in Indiana, two Democrats. He would have wiped out both Democratic seats. They said, not going to happen. And now what you're going to do, Donald Trump? He's probably going to put pressure on the white nationalist governor who says that it's not over.

Let's be very clear. We give credit for people being human beings. The bar is so low. no barn. In fact, they didn't do this because it's in their political interest not to do. Sure, the reporters are saying it would have been a nine-old Republican sweep if they had gerrymandered, but that is not at all guarantee. We see in Texas the five seats they think they are stealing. He says one thing to redistrict. There's another quite thing to redistrict and stuff people in districts and then start deporting their families and arresting them and jumping

and out and snatching them up because you think that they don't belong in the country. Texas, those five seats are not guaranteed. We saw what happened in Miami. A white woman, La Gringa, as they call her in Miami, beat the tar out of the MAGA candidate in a heavily majority Hispanic area. Now, that isn't Indiana's makeup, but let's be clear. There are limits to gerrymandering, and I think that these folks in Indiana realize if we do this, number one, there's no guarantee that we'll be able to go 90, and number two,

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Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Well, you know, that we won't be attacked anyway. So I think that's probably what we're facing. And I don't know that it's over. Heritage Action, Dark Money Arm of the Heritage Foundation, saying that Trump's claim he's going to strip all federal funding from the state. I think this is important, Roland. Yeah. I think it's important because they're testing the limits of the law at this point. And at this point, it probably should get all of us off the bench and into the game. Yeah, and listen, look, I will, I say this all the time. If you do good, I'm going to talk about you.

If you do bad, I'm going to talk about you. At the end of the day, I'm going to talk about you. And Cameron, the reality is these Indiana Republicans in the Senate, they did good. They stood up to the fascist bully. They stood up with all the threats. They were getting death threats, bomb threats, all sorts of different things. And here's the other thing. The voters in Indiana, they also were protesting saying, hey, we don't.

need this. So these senators were responding to the voters as well because they say, hey, Trump, you can call us out, but these are the folks who got to vote for us. This is from the Indy Star. This is some of what one of the state senators had to say. Friends, whether we realize it or not, we accept it or not, the forces that define this vitriolic political affairs and places outside of Indiana. have been gradually and now very blatantly infiltrated the political affairs in Indiana. Misinformation, cruel social media posts, over-the-top pressure from within the statehouse and outside, threats of primaries, threats of violence, acts of violence,

Friends were better than this, are we not? We can't allow ourselves to keep getting caught up in all of this noise. We have to redirect our focus on what really matters, I believe, to Hoosiers. The cost of living, the cost of doing business, the cost of health care, electricity, natural gas, additional tax relief, education, workforce development, job creation, These are the things I believe that we as state senators can truly influence. These are the issues that are on the minds of my constituents, are holding me accountable. Take on. I'm going to conclude here in a way that I often conclude other speeches when I'm out and about in the district with the following phrase.

The free world is counting on the United States of America. Friends, the United States of America is counting on the state of Indiana. Karen, here's the thing here. We are in the situation we're in because gutless, spyingless Republicans in Washington, D.C., refused to stand up to the twice-impeach, criminally convicted conman-in-chief. He has run roughshod over them.

He has just taken the authority, the legislative branch, and assumed it for himself. And what you see right here is a state chamber saying, enough is enough. you don't get to tell us what to do in our state. We are elected in our state.

It's unfortunate at the cowards, the Republican cowards in Texas didn't do this. The Republican cowards in Missouri did not do this. That you right now have cowards, Republicans in Florida who are looking to do this. Republican cowards in Ohio who are looking to do this. Somebody has to stand up to this thug and say,

hey, we can't say we like small government or local control and then you want to tell us what to do because you want to see changes. Cameron, every week, I got to tell you turn your damn microphone on. Now, I don't know how you can come on here talking about you a Gen Z, Millennial, and you all in the tech and your mic is never working.

Can you not hear me? Now we can hear you because you turn your damn mic on. My mic has been on, rolling. No, it wasn't. Well, as I mentioned, I could say my folks... As you mentioned, as we can now hear. As we can now hear. My folks live in Indianapolis and have been Hoosiers for almost a decade right outside of...

Right in Andre Conchison's District. And I've worked a lot in that state. Hoosiers are a proud people. Hoosiers are, I would say, a fiercely independent folks. and what is happening and I think what hopefully reverberates around the country is that these state senators, these state legislatures

that are getting this pressure from Donald Trump realize, hey, I still have to get elected. And if Donald Trump, just because he pressures and tries to put a national campaign for us to redistrict and move... Cameron, Cameron, hold on one second. Cammer, I got to come back to you right now

with joined by Congressman Andre Carson of Indianapolis. Congressman Carson, glad to have you here. I was just saying, Republicans in your state had some guts and they stood up to the thug in chief Donald Trump. Absolutely. And it's always good to hear from Brother Cameron, Tribble, who's the leader in our community. Listen, I think you called it. You know, we're thankful to God. I think this shows that the power of the people and the power of prayer really works. Indiana's different. We have a very

independent streak, a libertarian streak. We're similar to Texans in many ways in terms of our sense of independence. And I think that's what we saw right there. You had outside actors rolling from D.C., putting millions of dollars to try to influence our state. It didn't work. The voice of the people is

far more powerful than any person. Yeah, but the reality is, uh, Texas Republicans capitulated and they bent the knee in so they were not independent. They were shameful and despicable in not denying Donald Trump changing the map instilling those five seats. But what I also loved here,

people were protesting in the state. They went to the state capital. They put the pressure, and these lawmakers were saying, hey, Donald Trump, you can threaten us, but these are the folks who can vote us in or out. Absolutely. And Hoosiers don't play when it comes to bullying. You have these folks from Turning Point, USA.

You had the Trump administration threatening the primary people who were against this measure, and they were threatening to dump $10 million into local Senate races and state house races. It's unacceptable, but, you know, most Hoosiers are against it.

So I think this was a moment where elected officials listened to the people instead of D.C. insider lobbyists. And in fact, right here we're showing this was the map right here. They wanted an all-red map those two blue areas that, come on, guys, go to go, let's go. those two blue areas

those are Democratic seats yours is one of those they won at 9-0 and these Republicans said no we're 7-2 we got a majority my goodness what are you trying to do that's right they were proud of the maps they put together four years what changed and

as you know Roland because you do numbers every day once you start getting too cute it could turn against you well again I know you got some other interviews to do but this is this is also what happens when people push back. And I'm always trying to explain to our people, Congressman,

even though they're about the Republican and largely white, there are a lot of us who are living in districts representing by Republicans. They need to hear us. We need to be blowing their phones up, emails, going to those town halls, putting pressure, because even if we didn't vote for them, we are still constituents. Amen, that part.

All right, Congressman Andre Carson. The governor says it's not over. we'll see what happens next. Thanks a lot. Yes, sir. Thank you. Let's go back to our panel, Cameron, the point that you were making there for we to go to Congressman Carson. And again, people power, people pressure is critically important. And that's what happened here. And these Republicans in Indiana, they heard from their constituents.

They did, they did. Making sure you can hear me now. We got you. Okay, thank you. as I was saying before, like being in the Hoosier State and having worked there for the last decade and family there, they are fiercely independent. And I think what some of the D.C. Republican Party and some of what Trump in his White House and his administration is miscalculating here is that when state Republicans and state legislators and state senators are receiving death threats, when people are showing up at their houses, showing up at their offices, consistently protesting, they're realizing, hey, all politics are local. I've got to get elected next year. And not only is my seat in jeopardy, my safety's in jeopardy, and all for what,

for them to maybe redistrict and maybe get back some federal seats when they still need to get elected. And I think Hoosiers and folks in Indiana are fiercely independent. So I'm hoping this is something that reverberates around the country and folks realize, like, they're doing political calculations at the end of the day. Donald Trump and all the money that they can send into the state and potentially, they said, threats of primaring some of these other Republican state senators doesn't really, that doesn't really register when in real time I'm having people threaten my life, that my family's life. I'm having real people and their constituents throughout the state come and protest them. And they've got to win an election next year. They've got

there on the ballot, even when Donald Trump isn't on the ballot. So I think this is something that is a calculation that hopefully if Indiana does stand up, and I'm curious to see if they're going to stand tall throughout this entire process or if some backroom deals are going to be cut because we've known some of Trump's cabinets, Trump's sons have come to the state and they've been lobbying hard the Republican state legislature there in Indiana. So we're going to see what type of pressure they're able to stand up against. Um, I'm a lawyer, Bay Anderson. She joins us right now.

Listen, I get it. If this was a two-vote, three-vote, no, it was 31-19. Okay? That's a wide margin. It's going to have to be a whole lot of arm-twisting, uh, to go, uh, from 31-19 to, uh, you know, 21-19, uh, you know, or whatever number to win. Uh, and, you know, the thing here that I need people understand, I had some, some fool in the chat I'll tell you, can we stop talking about Trump at 630?

You've got to be stuck on stupid to not realize what's going on here. What we are seeing right now is with Donald Trump, with MAGA, with these Republicans in the House, Republicans in the Senate, these Republicans in the legislatures, with the Supreme Court and the federal courts, we are in the middle of a war. We are in the middle of a war for the future of America. We're in a war for the future of black America.

We are seeing these people attacking on all fronts. 80% of Project 2025 has already been put in place. The Heritage Foundation is now working on a Project 2026. I keep telling folk, you can't just be sitting here saying, commenting on

bullshit in the YouTube chat without realizing that we are in a war. And this requires people to be on the battlefield and we've got to be educating people on what's going on. So I'm not really interested. Listen, I'll watch Texas

AM, my agis play Miami on December 20th, but I'm not fixated on college football. I don't care what the damn University of Michigan football coach did, who he's growing. I don't care about no gossip show. What we're talking about right here

are life and death matters that impact our children's children and black folks have better wait to hell up. Go ahead. I hear you. I agree. And I think people forget. I want to take it back 2016 when Trump started to put this plan where we're seeing right now into place.

They started over 10 years ago with this plan and this scheme. And guess what? They laid under. They went underground soon as he wasn't reelected. And they regrouped. They regrouped because they knew they had already laid the foundation. And their foundation was that Supreme Court. Their foundation was making sure they had the House and the Senate.

So when Biden comes in, he couldn't put any cracks in that foundation. Now that we are seeing that there were no cracks that could be laid in that foundation, and it was so solid because of how calculated they were with using their resources, their money, and they kept it quiet. They used Trump and his rhetoric to distract us so that we can be like, oh, we're tired of hearing Trump. Yeah, we are tired of hearing him, but his people was looking at every pattern, looking at data, looking at how we move in order to execute the plan that they have in place right now. And it's continuing to spend.

That will is continue to spend. And they got so much gas that is hard for people to catch up. And if we don't start reporting on things that are going on that is within our political system, and we don't start educating people even more and drilling it in their head, we're going to continue to see the decline, the decline of what this country was built on. You know, again, Greg, I just keep telling people

what we're... Folka playing around here. They really are not fully comprehending. Every day, when I see these white nationalists, Elon Musk and others whining on Twitter about fertility rates, but really white fertility rates. When you've got Dave Rubin

and then you got J.D. Vance, the vice president, whining about, well, of course we want people next door to us who can speak English, those things. When you got Elon Musk lying saying, oh, the Saudi Somalis elected Ilhan Omar when 60% of her district is white and only 3% is Somali,

these folks, what they are saying and these Latinos in America are waking their asses up, hopefully, These folks are saying, we don't want none of y'all. We don't want none of y'all. Latinos, take your ass back. They're saying Venezuelans, Cubans, Colombians, take your asses back.

Trump stood at a rally and said, can we get a few from Denmark, from Sweden? They are openly saying, we only want blonde hair, blue-eyed white folks in this country. And guess what, Greg? all of these African immigrants, they don't want y'all to ask either. No.

No, now's the time to be clear. At your home state, 60% non-white. Here's a bulletin to white people. You should get with our common humanity or get rolled over. It's over. Not just the last 60 years are you trying to repeal the civil rights era.

Not just the past 160 years is you trying to roll back what's left of Reconstruction. with the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment. This is the end of your settler colonial project, friends. It was born in sin and it's going to die in something that smells a lot different than that bullshit you've been putting down for now in 250 years. Indiana, that bozo won the state of Indiana in 2024, 58%.

They wanted 100% representation. And to do it, they tried to carve up Brother Carson's district, as you say, into four split it four ways. Try to do to Indianapolis what they did to my hometown of Nashville. But people are waking up, as you said. If they had gone through with this, Congressman

Carson's district would have gone from favoring Kamala Harris by 40 points in the election last year to going to Trump by 20 points because they would have strung him out all the way through the state of Indiana. Similarly, we would have sent

something similar in the northwest corner of Indiana around Gary and that place, they would have stripped that congressman out and had him split about eight ways going toward the borders of other states. But here's the issue. And this picks up exactly to what Thelma was saying, and Sist Thelma was saying, the maps are being drawn here in D.C. The National Republican Redistricting Trust, according to Ari Berman, in today's Mother Jones, he just broke the news, and I know you've had Ari on many times. Knowing your roller decks, you might have them on before the end of the show again. But, you know, Burman is on this type. And he's like, they really are trying to destroy what's left of American democracy and trying to rig this election. But I think what it comes

down to, though, is this. If the state of Indiana was only 58% to Trump and you try to go 100%, these legislators can count. And then counting, they realize that they are going to be limits to this. And in addition, what do you always say, Roman? If we vote our numbers, we win, Yep. If we turn out and everybody else turns out and a handful of the white people turn, a lot of those Indiana legislators might not be in there. All right, son. Time to put out this campfire.

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Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. There's seats. Here's a thing right here that jumps out of me, Cameron. And I can't stand. Oh, my God, I cannot stand. Weak-ass progressives. Sam Stein, nice reporter, nice guy. with the bullwark

used to be with some other folk, Daily Beasts and others. This is what he tweeted. He said, going to throw this out there. If Indiana Senate votes this down, Pritzker, who is the governor of Illinois, should announce he's taking redistricting off the table.

I responded, hell no. If I'm Pritzker, first of all, I ain't taking nothing off. If Florida backs down, if Ohio backs down, and any other reports, Republican state back down, if I'm Prescott, I'll say, I'll think about it.

But I'm absolutely, I'm down with Virginia saying we're going to do a 10-1 map. See, this right here. This right here is the problem with Democrats slash liberals slash progressives. They want to go,

oh no, we did. Now we're going back. Hell no. No, you drive their asses into the ground. It's like in football. No, no, no. You don't just block them. You want an office of linemen with a pancake block.

You want them laying on their backs and they can't get up. You've got to teach the right a lesson. And that's my problem with too many punk-ass, weak-ass Democrats slash progressive-slash liberals. They don't know how to flatten folks' asses. You teach them a lesson. That's what you do. They've got to keep the pedal to the metal. they've got to keep the pressure on

because if you back off just because Indiana backs off to your point Florida Missouri, Ohio the math ain't mathin and so while I think some in the party and some on the progressive side

are trying to see this as a one-to-one I don't think that sentiment is throughout the entire party I think Prisker has the right notion Gavin Newsom has the right notion Gavin Newsom has the right notion. Any of these other states that are democratically controlled have the right notion. We have to keep that pressure on well into next year because the moment we ease up off the gas,

the moment we say, you know what, all right, we're not thinking about redistricting. If you don't think they might call a special session to try to run through, ran through some new district maps to win at the last moment, we haven't been watching. So this, if we're learning anything about this political, I hate to, call it again because these are real people's lives. But if we're learning anything about this political environment as it relates to real representation, state by state, this is a point of leverage and a point of pressure, is that in order for us to have truly representative maps, both sides have to be, seem to be threatened each other with redistricting them out of these states.

So I don't know about, I don't know Sam like that, so I don't know where he's coming from. I don't care where he's coming from. I don't care where it coming from. I totally disagree with us. We're going to stay with football, and since we know we're close to Virginia, I'm going to go Bill Stewart, Herman Boone, when the racists were sitting here

trying to keep them from winning the game, and the white coach, Bill Stewart, finally had enough, and he said this here. I know all about it, Titus. What are you talking about, Bill? You call this game fair, or I'll go to the pay purse. I don't care.

if I go down with you, but before God, I swear I'll see every last one of you thrown in jail. You dig your own grave. Ethan, on me! Don't you drift to the strong side? Of course, they're calling a holding penalty on me every time. Did I ask for your excuses? You want to act like a star. You better give me a star effort.

Do you hear me? I don't want them to gain another yard. You blit! And if they cross the line of scrimmage, I'm going to take every last one. should play that damn clip to the D-Triple-C, the D-SCC, the DGA, every group said, run it up, leave no doubt. Listen, they have to. Demonstration of who we have to be and who we need to be in this moment. So if they don't understand the significance and the urgency of keeping your foot on their fucking neck,

they should be begging for oxygen. They should be begging for you to stop. They should be begging for you to get up. If they are not doing that, you are not going hard enough. You're not going deep enough. You're not piercing their organs so that they can stop. They need to be begging for mercy. That's how urgent and that's how hard this fight needs to feel

for them. Absolutely. I'm just like, I don't care y'all. I have been telling you all from the beginning of this year what's going on. These people are trying to destroy this country. These people want to destroy black America. These people

want to impose a shameful and despicable ideology. They are about whiteness. They are about white supremacy. That's what they're all about. And my deal is like, that's right, leave no doubt. And I keep telling all y'all, okay? You got primaries coming up.

It was a whole bunch of y'all. Y'all know, y'all were after Kamala Harris, after she lost, after she lost, and folk were like all despondent. Two days later, y'all were like, you moved on, yes, because she lost. I dealt with it. And what did I say last year? I'm focused on the Wisconsin Supreme Court race.

I'm focusing on the constitutional amendments in Louisiana. I'm focusing on mayoral election. I'm focusing on the North Carolina Supreme Court race, and that's what I'm talking about. This is not a moment where we can be sitting here wasting our time, listening to silly podcasters, radio shows, gossip folk, talking about all unnecessary stuff. This is a war. These people want to destroy us. They want to implement Jim Crow 2.0 in every action that they are taking.

and this is where we got to hit them with everything. And see, some of y'all are sitting out there, okay? Y'all have been beneficiaries of black people who were fighting, beneficiaries of black people all across the country who didn't lay down. And you got some folks highly educated, well-paid, sitting and said, well, it really don't affect me. Bullshit, it does. Because it affects your cousin and your aunt and your uncle and your mama,

and your daddy and your brothers and your sisters. This is not a time for us to check out. 2006, we should be whooping ass up and down to East Coast, Southwest, West Coast, Midwest, state races, county races, city races, school district races, you name it. That's what this moment calls for. This is war. So damn it, act like it.

I'll be right back. This week on a balanced life with Dr. Jackie, we're talking about the ups and the downs of the holidays, the ebb and flow of life, those things that keep us running and gunning. But you know there comes a time each of our lives where we need to just sit down, sit back, and relax, giving you a chance to really find out who you are

and how you're going to move your life forward. How do I learn? How do I grow from this? And that's where, you know, resilience comes. So I'm literally walking this out in real time. It's just giving myself all the grace, all the space, all the permission that I need. We're talking about all of these things this week on A Balance Life with Dr. Jackie here on Black Star Network. How are you doing? My name is Mark Carrick, and you're watching Roland Martin.

Unfiltered deep into it like pasteurized milk without the 2%. We're getting deep. You want to turn that shit? We're doing an interview, motherfucker. Donald Trump's racist Justice Department lost again. For the second time, a federal grand jury said, hell now, we ain't indicting New York Attorney General Leticia James. This grand jury, like the one last week,

did not find sufficient evidence to support the charges of bank fraud and making false statements. Additionally, on November 24th, a federal judge ruled that acting U.S. Attorney Lindsey Halligan grossly unqualified was unlawfully appointed leading to the voting of her indictment. These folks, Thelma, they like losing, and they are embarrassing themselves, and she just laughing like, what y'all got now?

That's the black woman. When we know you ain't got shit, we're going to walk into the courtroom, and we're going to have a ball looking at the foolishness that child are putting yourself to and through, and then we're going to come out and say, what's next? you want to keep going. I got all day. I got all night. I got all year.

Until you realize, because what a lot of people don't understand as a former prosecutor who handled intake, grand jury intake, if we are in their reading, we cannot have any emotion. We can't try to persuade

these individuals who are on this grand jury. We can only read what we have. If they are telling you for the second time. Y'all ain't got shit. You ain't going to have it next week or the year after. You are literally setting yourself

up to pay her for the foolishness that you continue to display that is unlawful. And the former appointed individual, she needs to be concerned about losing her bar license because she intentionally

violated her code. of ethics, not only as a lawyer, but as an illegally appointed federal prosecutor. I'm just, it's just laughable. You know, Cameron, they kept trying to indict the dude who threw the sandwich at the ice folk, and they were like, man, whatever. Then when they finally got an indictment, it was a misdemeanor. Hell, they lost that case, too. I mean, you've got to be, look, the old adage that a DA kid indict a ham sandwich,

these fools can't even indict the bread. That's funny. I would say this. I think we're starting to see some of the checks, hopefully what we see in our system as the checks and balances here, in that there is still an intimidation factor amongst so many that they think that the Justice Department is going to bring them up on charges. but Donald Trump and his cronies are starting to see the limits of those powers.

So I love the fact that Letitia James, again, walked out unbothered through this. But we can't lose sight that he is still utilizing, and this administration is still utilizing, which should be an independent justice department, what I think is probably illegally, but utilizing as their own weapon and their own team of events. intimidation. But this is a strike on the side of justice and hopefully on the side of right. But what I am hoping is that folks are paying attention to this, and this is giving the larger ecosystem more cajones and more bravado to be able to stand up against Donald Trump. Because for the first half of this year, he was threatening indictment after indictment after

indictment against sitting members of Congress, mayors, anybody. who came against him, and this is showing that he doesn't have just unchecked, unlimited power. Absolutely. And the thing here, Greg, that I just keep trying to explain to people, listen, they control the White House for the next three years.

They don't have to control the Senate and the House for the next three years. And what people need to understand, House and Senate Republicans are letting these fools run roughshod. If you want to put them in check, Democrats should have gained the majority in the Senate and the House. And see, let me say this right here because we talk about it all the time.

It's a whole bunch of simple Simons out there. Smackin' their gums. Democrats don't, oh, you know, I just saw a tweet from Butch Ware with the Green Party sitting here just, you know, running his mouth about this, that, and then Democrats this. This ain't a Democrat conversation. This ain't no Republican conversation. This is an American, black American conversation.

This is whether or not we are going to just stand by and let these thugs do whatever they want to do any time they want to do. That's what's going on right here. Okay? It's like right here. Butchware goes, black people owe nothing to the Democrats. Stop tethering your identity to a party that gives you nothing. It makes you advocate for genocidal monsters like Obama, Kamala, Kroket, Jeffrey, reference, Booker at all, just because they happen to be black.

You're blinding leaders to a party that hates you is the only thing keeping them alive. Malcolm said the best. You put them first and they put you last, and that makes you a chunk, political chunk. Well, I ain't seen Jill Stein in no black community, Greg, since the election was over. Yeah, I'm trying to measure my words here because I understand what Brother Weir is saying. Philosophically, I don't disagree. I think it's, unfortunately, I'm going to stop short a common it's simple-minded. These are ideologues.

Fortunately, nobody's listening to them. And it's really sad. They're applying a broad-edged ideological argument in an environment that really, really, it doesn't apply to. What you said a moment ago is the, response. Mr. Ware, I hope you have some health care, some nominal health care, a job with some benefits, or maybe even a job at all with a living wage. I doubt that you do. We need full structured revolution in this country, but it's not coming today. And I think what we have is a difference of opinion over harm reduction. I keep saying this over and over again. I've

been excoriated by these folks, but since I don't feel that stick, I kind of enjoy it. they will say, well, you know, this system's got to fall so it can be reconstructed. You don't understand the basic history of the United States of America. And those two or three lines of France, Phenon, you read and combined with a couple of lines from somewhere else, just don't translate into the real world. Meanwhile, the white nationalists are very clear about this. We don't know, of course, because grand jury proceedings are sealed, we don't know. But, and they're conducted in private, at least, I shouldn't say sealed, but conducted in private. but somebody familiar with the matter

and told New York Times that Roger Keller probably brought the grand jury brought the case to the grand jury that failed today. He's out of Missouri. He's a white nationalist. He likes to wear MAGA hats outside of work, according to the St. Louis Press. And he's part of a MAGA crew out of Missouri

that has been consistent. Will Scarf, who was a former assistant U.S. turning in St. Louis, is currently Trump's press staff, rather secretary, and he leads the National Planning Commission that reviews federal construction projects because they're going to push this damn ballroom that they're now saying is going to be twice as big as what he said it was going to be. The former Missouri Attorney General, Andrew Bailey. This fall, they promoted him to co-deuty director of the FBI, the former Missouri Solicitor

General. John Sauer is now the U.S. Solicitor General. And, of course, Ed Martin, who was once to head in the Missouri Republic of Party, is now, or was briefly the interim U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. So they brought a hired gun in, but when you go through his cases, he don't prosecute civil cases. He prosecute civil cases. They will do anything.

And finally, it comes to this. Brother Ware and all the radicals, I get you philosophically, your politics are trash. I understand, though your politics, your attempt. Fortunately, nobody's listening to you. The Democratic Party has people in it who aren't listening to the so-called centrist or self-right nationalist. Democrats either. Jasmine Crockett's not listening to them.

Zohan Mandati is not listening to them. Afton Ben did not listen to them. The people in Virginia are not listening to them at the local level, and they're going to drag those people along with that crew or they're not. So for much way. Babes, what are you doing? What? I'm just mowing the lawn. No, it's blazing hot and dry out here.

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To lump all the Democrats together and even to put Jasmine Crockett in that. I understand Palestine, baby. Because I'm against genocide everywhere, Palestine, Congo, invading Venezuela. I'm against all of it. We should all be against all of it. But don't mistake standing for our common humanity with the White NASA's project it's trying to run over you, your mama, your grandmama, your auntie, your brother, and all them, because you're willing to throw them in the street to win a damn ideological argument, you need to grow up.

Thelma, I'm very clear on what we're facing. I tell people all the time that when I am looking at politics, let me just go ahead and go to football. 12 teams made the college football playoffs. Now, on December 20th, when my agates play Miami, if somebody else is going, that should have been Texas, that should have been North Dorda Dane.

Y'all are having a hypothetical conversation. I'm watching who's actually on the field. And on that day, in Kyle Field, it's going to be Texas, Miami. versus Texas A&M. Not no hypothetical if Notre Dame made it, if Texas made it, if somebody else made it,

I have to make an assessment on who's on the field. And what I see right now, on the field, Republicans barely control the U.S. House, they control the U.S. Senate. I'm seeing the Republicans today blocking the extent,

of the, blocking the extension of the Affordable Care Act of payments. I'm seeing all this happen. I'm seeing a Department of Justice lie, make up stuff. Wait until I play the clips of Congressman Benny Thompson just nailing a so-called respected FBI agent about Antifa. Just nailing Ice Barbie Christie Nome about lying about deporting veterans. I know who I'm looking at. I am looking at the devil incarnate

in living, being embodied as the Republican Party in 2025. This is not the radical Republicans after the Civil War. This is not the Republican Party of the late 1800s, the 1900s, but it is, because you had Herbert Hoover who lived the Lilly White faction

of the Republican Party. Some of y'all need to Google that. But the fact of the matter is, we are looking at people who are in bed with white supremacists, who embed with white nationalists, individuals who cannot, who are advancing a notion of whiteness

that don't include any of us. They don't want us in the room. These folks don't want women in the workforce. They don't want women voting. They want women to be showing. up, sit down, lay up in the bed, have their babies, and get in that kitchen. That's what we're facing. So

I do not have time for simple Simons who want to have this ideological outer space, what the world should look like. All I can do is talk about was literally

right in front of me right now. And MAGA Republicans are simply evil. That's for you, Thelma. Okay. Not only are they evil, they are using us, our own kind, to continue the rhetoric. And what a lot of people don't understand when we're talking about the local elections and how important when we're talking about judges and you're talking about the DA. Because when you have a Department of Justice that has literally said, fuck the Constitution, fuck the federal rules of evidence.

we are going to do what the hell we want to do, you have to have these individuals that can equalize what they are creating as unequal in your local government. And when I see individuals that look like us and are being used to switch parties in order to confuse the individuals that are going to ultimately vote based on their party, no one is talking about that. No one is talking about these black Republicans

knowing that they are in blue counties, cities switching because they know that they can win and you have the Republican Party, the MAGA, backing them because they know if we can get them to switch and win based off of where they are located, it's a win. So not only do we have to worry about them showing up in their true identity, we have to worry about the ones that they are paying to switch parties in order to confuse us so that they can stay in power. Because it's happening.

It has happened in Dallas County. And I just want people to understand, wake the fuck up. because just because they look like us and just because they may be blue now look at their history I promise you they have a red history look at this Cameron this actually was before today's vote

the Heritage Foundation sent this out Trump has made y'all know I cannot call him president Trump has made it clear to Indiana leaders if the Indiana Senate fails to pass the map all federal funding will be stripped from the state. Roads will not be paved, guard bases will close, major projects will stop. These are the stakes in every no vote will be to blame hashtag pass the map.

This is how evil. If Joe Biden, if President Joe Biden, if President Barack Obama, if President Bill Clinton, if President Jimmy Carter had ever threatened saying, oh, if y'all don't pass my, if y'all don't pass what I want, I'm going to strip y'all of federal funding.

They will be raining. Holy hell. But guess what? Steve Bannon, Fox News, the Daily Wire, the Daily Signal, Tucker Carlson, Turning Point USA,

every person on Fox News, Mark Levin, all conservative radio, none of these people are condemning the Heritage Foundation for this, because they agree with it. This is why you must leave no doubt and vote every single one of these thugs out of office because if they would threaten, I need everybody listening, Cameron, if these folks would threaten a super majority Republican state Senate and a red state-like Indian, what the hell you think they going to do to a blue state or a blue county or a blue city or a black city or a black county or a black neighborhood?

I hope people are paying attention. And I know you said if you mentioned a bunch of past Democratic presidents that if they had offered and said some of the same things, the entire media ecosystem, especially the right-wing media ecosystem, would be up in arms. I guarantee you if even George W. Bush had said something like that. People would have been up in arms.

I think Trump is unique here in his arrogance and his pompousness in this. But Rhodes and roads throughout the state that he's threatened and not being paved, these projects and these infrastructure projects in the federal funding,

the school projects. This affects everybody in Indiana. So I'm really hoping that if Indiana voters and voters around the country are waking up that if the president of the United States is threatened to take away funding, this doesn't just hurt, oh, Democrats, this doesn't just hurt independence, this doesn't just hurt black people, this doesn't just hurt Latinos, this hurts the entire states, a role that's not being paved or a school that's not being funded, infrastructure project that's stripping away good jobs. All these things are affecting everybody in the state. If anything, I hope that threats like that on stripping federal funding,

I think we're going to backfire on both the president and at least at the federal level, those who are backing him up. Because once people get hip to this and we need to consistently put these tweets on so many different ads, I would take that exact same tweet. I would take Trump saying those exact same words and plaster them and run ads throughout the state, run ads throughout the country and like, look what the president's willing to do.

He's willing to make your entire state suffer just to disenfranchise a whole group of people. He's willing to make everybody suffer. He's willing to make you pay more. He's willing to make your lives worse to make everyone suffer. So I'm really hoping people are waking up and I'm hoping that the smart folks here

who are trying to win these elections are taking these tweets or taking these sound bites and running them up and down all throughout the country and definitely throughout the state. And just so y'all know how just insanely despicable

these people are, Christopher Hill put this tweet right here. The Trump Vance White House has falsely accused an ally of Pope Leo, Sister Norma Pimentel of a legal activity tied to migrant aid and cut off all federal funding

to capital. charities in South Texas. Church leaders say it's a targeted political reprisal against Pope Leo and the Catholic Church. They do not give a damn. This is what thugs

and corrupt people do. They all got to lose next year. We come back. Oh, the right wing, they are upset because a formerly incarcerated brother is now working with

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I need a something. Blow me out. Make me a little 35. Republicans happily, gleefully voted for a convicted felon. Now, now they're mad because a formerly incarcerated brother is part of the criminal justice plan committee, whatever you want to call it, for New York City, Mary-elect Zeran Mam Dani. Now, I'm confused. I'm confused.

why would you be mad that Masan, a former deaf jam rapper who served seven years in the state prison for two Bronx taxi robbers in the 90s, has been appointed to Mamadne's transition criminal legal system committee. Mamadne explained to reporters why he chose Maasan to be a part of his team. We put together a team of more than 400 New Yorkers who are on 17 different committees, and these are New Yorkers who bring with them both a fluency of the policies, and politics of the city, the places that they've succeeded, the places that they've failed. And we will take all of their experiences

and their analysis into account as we build a city for each and every person. Pretty simple. My son joins us right now. Glad they having them to show, brother. Thank you for having me, man. How are you? This is beyond laughable.

To me, this is very basic. If I wanted, if I was a merry-let, And I wanted a panel or a committee that dealt with nutrition in the city. I'm probably going to get people who that's what they know about. If I actually want a committee to examine... The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

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Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at Audible.com. I mean, the conditions of the city jail, I probably will want to hear from folks who have been in it and folks who probably worked at it. Well, I don't understand why all these old nutcase folk are mad, upset because

you serve your time, you commit the act, you were convicted, you serve your time, happened long ago, paid your debt to the society, you have been working, trying to end violence, all sorts of things, and they mad that you would be on this committee?

How dumb is that? I mean, to me, it sounds foolish. You know, I think we always say in the movement that those closest to the problem are also closest to the solution. You know, as you stated, I've been home this crime that I was convicted

of and I still maintained my innocence. I went to trial and was found guilty by a jury, you know, and I ended up serving seven years I have a seven, 14 year sentence, and this was in 1999. So I came home in 2006 for, so for over two decades,

I've been home, doing community work, doing non-violence work, doing civil rights work, doing violence interruption work, dealing with at-risk youth, you know, doing everything possible to make my community better. So we have these conversations about why someone who is formally incarcerated is at the table, someone who went through the Department of quote-unquote corrections, who went through a rehabilitation stage as that's what they say the system is supposed to do. So why will we not want people who reacclimate into society to be productive members, especially when the track record of the last 20 years of my life has shown that I'm a productive member of society?

And I represent and have an expertise in the field of criminal justice. Right. I mean, this is not, to me, that difficult. But it also goes to show you that the folk on the right in a New York Post play. They played this up big. Oh, they played it up big. And that's the Rupert Murdoch on right-wing newspaper in New York. That's just who they are.

So they're playing up big. And if we want to confront, again, how do we keep folk from going to prison? We talk to people who can weigh in on type of programs to do it. If I'm trying to start, I remember I was in Chicago. I was in Fort Worth. And I was in Fort Worth, they passed this initiative to employ former gang members to help end gang violence.

And these people are all mad, upset. And I'm like, well, who the hell do y'all think will have the credibility to go sit with gang members than folk who used to be in the gangs? That's right. There's a level of expertise in everything. Unfortunately, you know, there are a lot of... returning citizens and people who are justice impacted that actually committed crimes,

but they pay their death to society. And I think it's just, it's hypocritical to say that you want someone to be rehabilitated and that you want them to pay for what it is that they've done, and then they paid for what they done, and then they come home and they're on the right track, and you make it seem that they no longer can be a productive member of society. You know, and I would like to salute the mayor elect for his comments to stating that We're creating, he created a committee of over 400 people. And it's people from all walks of life, different live life experiences,

some who are incarcerated, some who've been on the other side of, you know, the criminal justice system. And we all sit around and we come up with ideas. And we come up, what policy is going to work best? What is work best? I have an understanding about the school of prison pipe mom. Being a young boy, watching a lot of my peers and a lot of my friends go from elementary from junior high school to prison, you know,

and those are things that I want to talk about. How do we get in front of the prison system? How do we put systems and structures in school that identify the kids who are struggling instead of suspending them? Because once you suspend the kid and you put him in the street, he's doomed to go into the system.

So these are things that I've been studying, you know, and I realize things that I haven't seen any administration tackle. So that's what the level of expertise that I bring to the table that I know is going to be important if we're really trying to end the violence in the crime in our communities. Again, it goes to credibility.

It goes to, you know, not bringing what I call a theoretical perspective to it. Listen, I have spoken, you know, I've been to many universities. I was 107 HBCUs. I've been to 50 or 59 of them. I've been numerous PWIs. And when people ask me,

Roland, you've been in media since you were 14 years old, that's the last, that's the last, you know, 43 years. What do I see as the biggest problem with media? I said, easy. People teaching journalism who ain't ever done it. Like, you can't, I remember when I was in Texas A&M and it was a television writing class, the teacher gave me a grade.

And I said, I'm asking the question. And what's crazy is, I had the producers who worked at the local TV station help me with my assignment. I said, let me ask you a question. You ever worked in TV? She said, no. I said, why in hell can you teach me TV writing? And you ain't never worked in television. I said, you must have read a book just like I did.

And she got mad. And she said, well, why don't go to the department head? I said, I'll be back. And I went to the department head. And I walked in. And he was like, roller, roller, roller, roller. I know calm. I was like, no, Doc,

how are you going to have somebody teaching me television writing who ain't never worked in television? To me, that's the dumbest thing in the world. So we can have a hypothetical conversation, we can have an academic conversation, the things that we need to do, the lower crime, how we need to do with mental illness, what must we do with young men and women

who don't have fathers or mothers in the home? how do we deal with these folks who are having one meal a day or one meal every other day? No, but if I got some folk who've been through it and who are in it, who are talking of folk every day,

that's the difference between what I say, a PhD and a PhD do. That's right. And that's just the mentality that I come from. I can't erase the past. I can't erase the fact that I was in prison and I served seven years.

But all of those experiences, that I've had, just being inside that system, knowing the flaws inside of the system, knowing the flaws outside that lead to the system, all of those things, this live experience that I have gives me a level of expertise that I don't believe that anyone else that's on this transition team has. So, you know, I defend myself by saying, look at my track worker. You know, they'll try to judge you by the worst seconds of your life. And once again, I still maintain my innocence, but they'll judge you based on the fact that you were convicted of a crime, but they won't look at the last 20 years of my life

when I've been doing public service and it's well documented that I've been on the right side of history and of justice. Questions from my panel. Phelma, you first? First and foremost, I commend you on all of the work that you are doing

because you are the perfect person in position to sit on a panel that is going to create change because we can only do that by being educated from people who have experienced it because if we don't

we're going to still continue to see people who are not educated on what they're doing that lands them into situations wrongfully and under their own accord. So my question is how do you feel

when you have police officers who have probably violated individual's constitutional rights and have not been caught trying to dictate whether you

are more qualified than them. You know, I'm not a police officer. I don't know what the training is. I've never been through the police training. And I believe that they have a job to do. I believe that they have a function within society. But they don't understand

which function on the opposite side of the aisle for those who are justice impact, who have served time, who have to go through the justice system and see the flaws and see how a lot of these, our youth are being overcharged and over-incarcerated and giving way too much time. They don't see all of those things until some of them actually fall and they find themselves on the opposite side.

And then I've heard them say, wow, I didn't know all of that was happening. So what I would say to people that have that mentality, officer, you have to do your job in the work that we've been doing in the CMS. and the credible messages organizations and what we've been doing in my organization Unshill Freedom at rewriting legislation for criminal justice, making it safer

for the community, making, giving inmates and convicted individuals, humanity, giving them actual opportunity to come home and be successful. It just makes no sense to me. As a police officer, why would you not want to understand the person that's inside of the system so that you can try to limit those people from going in the system to make your job easier.

You know, I think the thing we should be doing is those on the opposite side of the law, sitting down, having conversations and utilizing both of our lived experience, both by knowledge and our wisdom and our expertise to come up what is the best, with the best plan for our criminal justice system. Cameron. Good to see you again, brother, my son. Please, came, peace. One thing, one, again, thank you for all the work.

doing and in both in the community and on social and through your podcast and through media. I think you really have a full 360 approach on how you're reaching multiple generations. My question here, and I think you have a unique opportunity to bring in the hip hop generation and the hip hop community into government, especially with the mayor-elect Mondani kind of represents to so many different people. and I think how do you think or how do you plan to maybe serve as a bridge to the larger hip hop community? Because I think as we move into these next several elections, a lot of folks both not just rappers themselves, but people in the industry and all the folks that they influence don't see themselves or don't see an opportunity for themselves in the political system. They say no matter what the mayor, some of these same laws and how the police are treating them and some of these same issues are still a, still a right.

But I think you being on the inside or you working with the mayor and working with this administration, both from transition and in governing, has such a unique opportunity to be a bridge to so many more influential. I won't just say the community and the fans, but also the artists through New York. Because you know, New York has such a, it's the home of hip hop and it has such a rich hip hop history. And there's so many different artists and folks in hip hop that are kind of at every level. So I'm really excited about what you could potentially do there. Yeah, and that's one of the things that I thought about before even accepting, you know, the offer to be a part of this transition team is how can I impact the community? How can I impact the culture?

And when the newspaper, the Post decided to put me on the front and, quote, quote, call me a crime boss and try to smear me, it was refreshing to listen to my community defend me. It was refreshing to hear artists, radio hosts, everybody possible come forward to say, this man has been doing this work, selflessly, honestly, and making real impact for over a decade. You know, so when they stood up and they seen me,

I've been getting calls and text messages from so many of my friends. You know, they say, what the devil means for good, bad, God would transform into good. And they thought that they were doing something to defame me, but they just opened up the eyes and made people feel like we actually

have an opportunity to have someone that they know from our community who loves our people, who loves our community and is really trying to save the kids in the community and do the best for our community inside and have his voice be heard. So they know that when I walk into those rooms,

I'm bringing them with me. So I believe it definitely empowers our hip-hop culture. You know, a lot of the people who didn't see themselves inside of this political sphere, who were pretty much done, are saying, yo, I feel like we have an opportunity with you at those tables,

being able to voice our opinion and be able to voice, you know, the ideas of our community. Greg? Thank you, Roland. And thank you, brother, Ms.on. Yeah, we know what these critics, their purpose is.

Their purpose is to try to destroy the Mamdani mayorality. And they are anti-human. their anti-life. And I agree with you, brother. Police are doing exactly what they are formed to do. And it has nothing to do with improving the lives of anyone. So that having been said, I think we can set aside the retired chief of department for the NYPD talking to the New York Post. It's doing what it needs to do, which is, of course, expressing its dying white nationalist philosophy.

And congratulations to New York City for rolling over that. You'll be sworn in, I understand, in a little less than three weeks. and you're going to hit the ground running. My question to you and to your comrades as well, I understand that there are several folks from Until Freedom who are joining the 400 plus. What is your philosophy if you can maybe offer some insight into how you view public safety

and how you view criminal, so-called criminal justice as it relates to the kind of things y'all will be talking about once you're sworn in and really get down into the details of how you really transform, transform an institution and transform a society? Well, I think for us, you know, for us, the reality of public safety is the community-based safety, right? We always say that police don't come and stop crimes in our community, come and arrest you after the crime. You know, sometimes they actually hyper, make the crime more hyper and they amp things up.

And when you have credible messages in our communities, when you have people who deal with mental health in our communities, because a lot of those situations in community can be prevented, right? We want to deal with preventative measures first. And when you have community, respected people inside the community who come from the community, some who are formerly incarcerated, some who have been former gang members, some who just are community leaders. And when you give those people opportunities and give them jobs inside their communities to where it's a community-based organization and where people feel comfortable

and they've able to foresee, you know, situations happen inside communities because it's always somebody in that side of the community who has the pulse of the community. So if we start empowering those people who have the pulse on the community, we've seen over the years the CMS, the crisis management system has reduced violence in our communities tremendously. And we want to pour more into that, pour more resources into that. We don't want to send our people to jail. We don't want to always have our kids going to. to jail and being suspended. We want to figure out how do we prevent the crimes before it happened?

How do we do restorative justice? How do we find young kids who might have done something that it's illegal? And we find a way to give them a path towards being redeemed and being able to be educated and be successful. We don't want to take away the likelihood of their success. You know, so we want to see it as a community-based motto in which we put violence interrupt us inside communities and they work alongside the police. There will be times where the police may be needed that the crime has

exceeded something that credible messages can do. But more often than not, they really don't. They don't never have to if we have the resources in our community and we empower the proper people. All right then. Well, look, congratulations. It's great that the mayor is doing this.

I wish more mayors would do this sort of thing because it's critically important. to be bringing in multiple voices. We're talking about trying to fix many of the societal problems. So, my son, look, you've done great work for the years. You've been a great voice, and certainly we appreciate having you on the show. Thank you for having me, man. I just hope that we continue to support each other.

You know, they always want to defame us, and they always want to look at us and look at the worst times of us. I want us to continue to uplift people like you rolling. I just want to give you your flowers, because you don't get enough flowers that, like you said, the conversations had here and upliftment about people is not having anywhere else, so continue to do the work. I appreciate my brother. Thanks a lot.

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This is a coordinated backlash to progress. At the end of the day, conservatives realized that they couldn't win a debate on facts. They started using our language against us, right? Remember when we were all woke and the woke movement and all that kind of stuff? Now everything is anti-woke, right? When we're talking about including diversity, equity, inclusion, higher education. Now it's anti-DI. All this are efforts to suppress the truth because truth empowers people.

the other side of change only on the Black Star Network. It's your boy, Earthquake, you know, giving Roland Martin something to do, because you know he don't know what to do. He's from Texas. Ain't his fault. We got a big FAAFO segment. Y'all today on Capitol Hill, Homeland Security Committee hearing, they were talking about worldwide threat to the homeland.

And when I talk about Trump's folk will get nay asses, pimp slap left and right, I think the Democrats were just passing baby powder down the line. And it was just like, it was a scene out of how high as they was just pimp

slapping folk. Y'all, Mississippi Congressman Benny Thompson, at Kappa, I give it to him. Y'all, he called on Ice Barbie Christian norm to resign, and he left Michael Glasshine, the operations director of the FBI

National Security branch. Y'all, speechless when they would talk about Antifa. Rowlett. The executive board of domestic terrorist organization, Antifa. That's our primary concern right now. All right, that's what President Trump did.

What do the FBI say? We share the same view. When you look at the data right now, you look at the domestic terrorist threat that we're facing, right now, what I see from my position is that's the most immediate violent threat that we're facing on the domestic side.

So where is the Antifa headquarters? What we're doing right now with the organization? Where in the United States does Antifa exist? If it's a terrorist organization and you've identified it as number one. We are building out of the infrastructure right now. So what does that mean? I'm just, we're trying to get the information. You said Antifa.

is a terrorist organization. Tell us as a committee, how did you come to that? What do it exists? How many members do they have in the United States as of right now? Well, that's very fluid. It's ongoing for us to understand that. The same, no different than al-Qaeda and ISIS. No, no, I don't want you.

I'll ask one question, sir. I just want you to tell us. If you said Antifa is the number one domestic terrorist organization, operating in the United States. I just need to know where they are how many people. I don't want a name. I don't want anything like that. Just how many people have you identified with the FBI

that Antifa is made of? Well, the investigations are active. Sir, you wouldn't come to this committee and say something you can't prove. I know. I know you wouldn't do that, but you did. Here's the shortened version. the shortened version of that clip.

Yeah, it was 12.15. Exactly. If I'm not mistaken, if you see something. Now you see now. You know what I don't know. I'm saying? No, I thought. You're saying that you're not fucked up.

No, you know what I don't. The more questions that cop asks, the more I thought I wasn't going to never see daylight again. But not, y'all, Benny Thompson was the ultimate black daddy. He went, uh-uh, that person knows that feeling with your ass lying. And your daddy go, uh-uh, roll that again, just roll that again. Roll that again. Go on, roll Benny again.

Come on, roll Benny again. Executive Ward of Domestic Terrorist Organization, Antifa. That's our primary concern right now. All right, that's what President Trump did. What does the FBI say? We share the same view. When you look at the data right now, you look at the domestic terrorist threat that we're facing,

right now what I see from my position is that's the most immediate violent threat that we're facing on the domestic side. So where is the Antifa headquarters? What we're doing right now with the organization? Where in the United States does Antifa? Grand Cameron and Filmer, this sounds like when the daddy said,

uh-uh, why did your ass come home at 2 o'clock? Did I not tell you to have your ass in this house at 12.30? But you don't brought your ass home at 2 o'clock. Who and what were you doing at 2 o'clock in the morning? Well, uh-uh, I asked your ass, who were you with and what were y'all doing that brought your ass home at 2 o'clock in the morning? I think every black person watching right now is having a,

childhood flashback after that questioning by Benny Thompson but the ass-whooping ain't done y'all Christin'none got busted

in a serious lie when she said oh no congressman we've never deported any veterans and the congressman, I think he watched this show.

He said, go to my iPad. Roll it. Madam Secretary, how many United States military veterans have you deported? Sir, we have not deported U.S. citizens or military veterans. I don't believe you served in the military. I haven't either, but I think you and I can agree that as Americans, we owe everything to those who have served our country in uniform. particularly those who have served in combat.

Do you agree with that? Sir, I believe that people that are in this United States, that are citizens have legal status here. Madam Secretary, we are joined on Zoom by a gentleman named Sejune Park. He is a United States Army Communist. My man said go to my iPad. But y'all, my damn eyewatch thinking I'm having an emergency. Let me stop this.

My man walked up. Roll that back. I just want you out. He was like, wrote it all good. Roll it back, roll it back, roll it back a little bit, because y'all gonna see him go, we're about to get in your ass, we about to get in your ass. Roll it. I don't believe you served in the military, I haven't either, but I think you and I can agree that as Americans,

we owe everything to those who have served our country in uniform, particularly those who have served in combat. Do you agree with that? Sir, I believe that people that are in this United States, that are citizens, have legal status here. Madam Secretary, we are joined on Zoom by a gentleman named. Seijune Park. He is a United States Army combat veteran who was shot twice while serving our country in Panama in 1989. Like many veterans, he struggled with PTSD and substance abuse after his service. He was arrested in the 1990s for some minor drug offenses, nothing serious. He never hurt anyone besides himself, and he's been clean and sober for 14 years. He is a combat veteran,

a Purple Heart recipient. He has sacrificed more for this country than most. most people ever have. Earlier this year, you deported him to Korea, a country he hasn't lived in since he was seven years old. Will you join me in thanking Mr. Park for his service to our country? Sir, I'm grateful for every single

person that has served our country and follows our laws. And can you please tell Mr. Park why you deported him? Oh, freeze, freeze. Oh, my Lord. My man said, can you thank him for his service? And then she tried to go All Lives Matter. Keep going.

But you understand that many veterans struggle with PTSD, many veterans struggle with substance abuse challenges. This man took two bullets for our country. You have broad authority, by the way, as Secretary, to issue humanitarian parole, to do deferred action. Will you commit to at least looking at Mr. Park's case to see if you can help him find a pathway back to this country that he sacrificed so much for? I will absolutely look at his case, but I want you to remember that our program, The man behind you, please stand up, sir. His name is Jim Brown from Troy, Missouri. He is a Navy Combat veteran who served our country in the Gulf War. He's married to a woman named Donna, who came to our country legally from Ireland when she was 11 years old. She has lived here for 48

years. Because of you, Jim's wife, Donna, has been in prison for the last four months. She did not come here illegally. And she has never committed any crime other than writing two bad checks totaling $80 10 years ago. She is currently in prison and facing deportation. Ms. Noam,

will you thank Mr. Brown for his service to our country? Thank you, Mr. Brown for your service to our country. Now what possible explanation? Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. He said, he's standing behind your ass. Mr. Brown is staying up.

Being hired. Mr. Brown. Mr. Brown. Thank you for your service, Mr. Brown. Mr. Brown, thank you for your service. Play. Can there be for locking up his wife for four months when she has committed no crime

other than writing a couple of bad checks for $80? Sir, it is not my prerogative, my latitude, or my job to pick and choose which laws in this country You have broad discretion as the secretary. You need to follow. You can issue parole. You can do all kinds of things, but you're choosing not to. Will you commit, again, to just reviewing Donna's case

and reuniting this combat veteran with his beloved wife who also loves this country? I will review the case. Now, that was Virginia Congressman Robert Walken Shaw. Oh, y'all, the dog walking didn't end there, y'all. It didn't end there, okay? So another member of Congress That was Rhode Island Representative We don't have his name in the script

Rhode Island Representative Okay, so this is the Virginia Congress in Robert Walkinshaw Who had a few questions About the proud of- Mr. Gleashin Be going to put Rhode Island Congress, put the name

I'm familiar with the name With the name you have proud boys Okay, does the FBI still designate the proud boys as an extremist organization They did in 2018 in President Trump's first term. We are in the process right now of changing our

categories for domestic terrorists. So they're no longer designated as an extremist organization. The FBI designated them an extremist organization in 2018. Has that changed? I'm not aware that they did that. It's all over the media, sir. It's widely reported. Can you get back

to me on that? Sure well. All right, thank you. If you're going to walk your ass to a congressional hearing. And this FBI guy, according to Ken Delaney, Ken Delaney is a national security correspondent for MS Now. I used to work with Ken the Fourth of Telegram.

This guy supposedly is a, you know, a very good agent. That's how bad you got to be. But when you have had an excellent track record and you got to go make yourself look like a damn fool

and lie in front of Congress because you're working under a dumb ass like Pam Bondi who's reporting to a thug, corrupt, twice impeach, criminally convicted fool like Donald Trump. That's for you, Thelma. Listen, I have no words, but I am so proud that they walk their ass like the dogs that they portray. Because one, you want to put a organization that educates and show up.

to make sure people rights are protected and voices can be heard. But you don't want to acknowledge the fucking proud boys as if they are not part of the reason that we had January 6th. Majority, majority of them got convicted. So are we going to not use our common sense or act like the president? who we don't know if he's coming to phone. So my whole thing is we have individuals if we continue with this type of

checks and balances. Pulling the receipts. When we pull fucking receipts and their memory gets foggy, we win every time. We got a receipt check they ass at every point. If we're not showing up, with the receipts to refresh their memory like we in trial,

then we are failing. That's how we're going to drive it into people's memory. We want them to have this in their long-term memory, not their short-term. So you showing up and putting their ass on trial every single time, I bet they start showing up with some damn sense and stop violating constitutional rights and also being subjected. Babes, what are you doing?

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And I will continue to not pay for it. And the MAGA influencers whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment. So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulate. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream. media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online in media and in politics with the Brad versus Everyone podcast hosted by me, Brad Palumbo. Every day of the week, I bring you on a wild ride through the most delulu takes on the internet, criticizing the extremes of both sides from an independent perspective.

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And Donald Trump has been trying to convince everybody, it's Antifa, Nalpimp, is your side. It's your side. That's the January 6 people. that's that brother they arrested for the pipe bombs who said the 2020 election was stolen. I don't even know that story's even true. But the bomb line is the people who are committing terrorism in this country, the biggest threat,

a white domestic MAGA, GOP, right-wing terrorist. Yeah, I think they, in each of those videos, you saw them fully embarrassed themselves from, I mean, you got the Department of Homeland. Homeland Security, Chrissy Noem, who couldn't even look in the face of some of these combat veterans and say, like, oh, yeah, I don't know if I have the latitude. I'm just going to review the case. I wish those Congresspeople would have forced her and said more than just she would review the case and make sure they push that because they'll say whatever they need to say to get out of those hearings. Backhammering. She actually said, oh, I got to leave early. because I got to share a FEMA meeting

and then a reporter said he was told the FEMA meeting was canceled. No, they're looking for any out. They're looking for any out not to be caught on tape because what they do realize, and even with this, that agent who was there and he better hope he wasn't lying because there's a lot of get back coming

in terms of like it's a federal offense to a lot of Congress, especially if you're under oath. And so I think, I really hope that we, we keep some of these receipts. I hope that that first, that first hearing, especially with Christy Gnome, is looked at about veterans,

no matter what party you decide to vote for, to understand that they're not respecting you, and they will deport you just like they will deport anybody else. Greg, this is how shameful it was. She was like, who, Lord, she was like, this seat is too hot for my ice Barbie ass.

Listen. I apologize gentleman's time is part of I know the secretary has to leave and I would now recognize

a gentle lady from Texas Ms. Johnson for five minutes of questions I'm just going to take the position that you're scared of my questions Mr. Chairman

if we could stop the clock and wait until after all this clerk will suspend if we could reset the time that would be helpful I y'all a ass got to leave when they tell you how much time

they don't need you testified before Congress. Nah, they were whooping that ass so bad. She's like, look, I got, she went, no Moss. She was a rebel Duran. No, Moss, no Moss, I got to go. Doggone Christy, no. The Ice Barbie, as you say, is a beautiful thing. She's talking about a FEMA meeting.

Didn't the government of California travel here a few days ago looking for that money for relief from the fires? And nobody would meet with him? A doggone Christy, no. But you know, the beautiful thing about it is, and she's being drug for filth, of course, including right now after her, I've got to leave excuse. But in addition to that, it's a couple of interesting things. The right wing, I shouldn't say right wing, let me stop.

Let me not say that. Let me say it more accurately. The white nationalist press is dragging her for filth, floating the idea that she's about to be replaced. And so it made salon.com yesterday or day before, whenever. And, of course, the White House denied it, which means she's probably on thin ice. We're not, because, you know, she's cosplayed so much. And one thing about Bozo, his mind is gone. He's clearly deteriorated in so many ways, physically, intellectually, mentally.

And one thing about it, though, that he maintains a laser focus on is appearances. And so he will recast that role very quickly. Now, to the point you raised, Brother Cameron, he's absolutely right. You better than have lied to Congress. Mr. Glashin, who was the operations director of the FBI. And as you say, Roland, he's been around for a quarter century. In fact, he was promoted during the Biden administration. He didn't lie.

And I went back and looked at his written remarks, before the record remarks. You can go to FBI.gov and look them up. They're called worldwide threats to the homeland. Notice, if you read through his prepared remarks for the record, there is not one mention of Antifa. he got blindsided like everybody else so he's sitting there twilling his thumbs we're standing up we're moving with it now and we're setting up the process oh that's true why because these fools and told you to put antifa on the list and you're looking like what the hell ex-marine i'm trying

to follow orders but it ain't no threat now let me be very clear finally about who antifa is my father haywood car born 1921 buffalo valley tennessee drafted into world war two my father was antifa my uncle Hayes Jr. My sister's, I mean, my mother's brother's brother, was Antifa. Also his brother, buddy. Also, his brother, Doc. They were all Antifa. I have a lot of cousins who were Antifa as well because they fall Hitler. What is fascism? You fool? Now, I'm going to tell you something. I am Antifa as well. So is everyone. I'm against fascism, my friend. And as this man is sitting there trying to come up with a label, I'm going to tell you right now what the defense cannot be. The defense cannot be I am not Antifa.

The defense is I am Antifa, and you're a fascist. You all these folk going to learn, and the only way you make them learn is if you vote them out of office. That's what we got to do every single day. All right, y'all, going to a break. We come back. Time of our shop Black Star Network Marketplace. You're watching, Roland Unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network. They said the quiet part out loud.

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specifically designed for black people other people of color. See, Doc, we put black in that. We don't say people of color. Health and beauty expert and the creator, Dr. Susan Skin Care. She jokes us now from Beverly Hills, California. Doc, glad to have you here.

Okay, so what makes this so different or unique and specific to folks with melanin? First of all, thank you for having me. I'm a huge fan of the show and you. I'm glad to hear. So what makes this different? This line different? Well, I've been practicing in Beverly Hills for about 20 years.

I, of course, I'm black myself. I have, like, a lot of black celebrity patients. And even though I, Windows Spellman, of course, that also focuses on that Morehouse and Harvard Medical School, NYU, Cornell, my training really wasn't about skin of color. It's like the smallest part. But, of course, I have a special interest. I've been doing it for a long time.

I'm always looking to find the right science to make sure the skin of melanin can glow. See, Reginald is interesting just the other day. I think I sat around. Somebody did a video, I kind of remember the sister who did it. She had a video talking about Polaroid. It was Ashley B. And she talked about the Shirley Card and how Polaroid,

what they did was Kodak. I just had Kodak. They developed films. based upon a white woman. And she was like one of the reasons a lot of our grandparents and others, they always look dark in the photos because it was never developed.

And so the reality is when we talk about a lot of stuff in our society, let's just be frank, so many products have been designed for white people. Absolutely. Yes. I mean, when it comes to internal organs and the heart, the lungs,

it's pretty much the shame depending on whatever your race is. It doesn't matter. but when it comes to skin and hair, it's a little different. And so I've taken that extra effort in time and research to find the science that makes the difference so that we don't have to worry about scarring and certain procedures that were okay for light skin

that doesn't work for our skin. I've been doing this for a long time and done the homework so that you know how to get the things that will make the difference for your skin. All right, then, so let's walk through here. So we've got, let's see, what's this right here? We've got natural, advanced, anti-wrinkle neck face decollette cream. Oh, yes.

So, you know what, Roland, maybe I can make this more interested to you, to you, which I first of all, I admire you going for it as a man, but if I could talk about, like, what might be good for you? Go ahead. Like, I happen to know a little bit about your history because I think you like to golf. Hell yeah. Yeah, you do. And you wear a cap out there.

and I'm not sure if you're wearing sunscreen or not. Yep, I do. I do. This is specifically made for the neck. Okay. It's really packed with peptides. It has haluronic acid in it. It has what you need to make the skin on the neck that's different from the rest of the skin,

soft, smoother, younger. And the neck is one of those things that you kind of forget about. Like, even if someone's putting sunscreen on, a lot of times they just put it on their face. Yes. Now normally, normally when I play, I literally, I spray here, a spray face here, ears, ears, back of the head as well. And then, of course, arms and legs. That's good. First of all, good job doing that.

Oh, no, I got sunsprice. I got 10 golf bags. I got sunscreen and everything got bad. Some people think that black people don't need sunscreen. Oh, hell no, we do. Yeah. And then when we have uneven skin tone, what it does, Some people think they can go out and even out there,

their uneven skin tone by the sun, but that's not true because the sun goes to the dark thing and makes the dark thing darker first. So I get that. So I get that up here. So what happens, you're right, when I'm wearing a cap, now you really can't see it now because it's been cold as hell here and I haven't been out there.

But normally what happens in the summer months, you can literally see it'll be a line right here because I'm wearing the cap. And so it'll be dark here. It'll be a light of here. because you're protected other places and this is the area that's getting to the dark. So if you don't wear sunscreen anywhere else, I mean, I'd like you to wear it. Make sure to wear it on the dark streak area because that's how you can at least even out some of your skin.

And so this is for the neck because I got to tell you, Regina Hall, she wants me to tell everybody, she's my patient, and she wants everybody's neck to look young. She's on the red carpet. She's on the red carpet. I'm constantly like looking up the best peptides, hyluronic acid, whatever it is, to keep. her neck young. I was made this one with her in mind. It's great for the neck. It plumps it up. It also lightens it

up, makes it softer and keeps it looking younger. All right. Next time I'll see her, I'm been like, Regina. Ooh, look at your neck. All right, let's uh... You can do that to her. Please don't do that to her. Well, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, look at your neck. Looks great. Come on. Oh, I ain't going to see.

She'll love that. Doc, really. I ain't going to see to say, oh, my God, Regina, your neck look horrible. All right. Tell us about pure vitamin C and ferulic syrup. What is this for? Okay, so this is the pure vitamin C and feruleic acid here. This is a serum.

You put this on in the morning before you put on your sunscreen. It makes your sunscreen work so much better. It keeps you, it also brightens up dark spots. It's also made with some highly ironic acid in there to morph your eyes. So you're saying like those of us who are from Texas and we used to have mosquitoes, then, of course, when you scratch it, it ends up having these dark spots on your legs. So we can. Okay, because that's a real thing.

So if you, if we have mosquitoes, if we have mosquitoes, and we scratch that area, especially what you're going to do sometimes even in your sleep. You have inflammation. And the way our skin responds to inflammation is to migrate a dark spot there. And it can stay around for a really long time. So this vitamin C is really good for lightening it up. In addition to using the sunscreen, which also helps keep the sun from making that dark spot darker. It also moisturizes its highly ironic acid. It gives you a beautiful glow. it's a wonderful formulation of vitamin C doesn't irritate,

and I have a special delivery system that makes you be able to tolerate it. All right, so if we have those spots, how many times should we apply this per day? You should apply that just one today in the morning and underneath your sunscreen. It's a serum and underneath your moisturizer. Like if you were to use both of these,

you'd start with the serum and then follow with the moisturizer. All right, pure retinol, what's this? Pure retinol serum. This is a big, this is a really big deal. Let me just take a moment for a room. retinol anything. In dermatology to date, there's nothing more than retinoic acid, a form of vitamin A

as far as clumping this skin, getting rid of fine wrinkles, lightning up dark spots. The problem with it is it does irritate the skin sometimes it makes you peel, but this is a special polypore's delivery system. So you can put this on, you can brighten up your skin, tighten up your skin

and not have to worry about the unpleasant side effects. Okay, now when you say now, you know with black people, when you say brighten up your skin, what does that mean? I'm really talking about we naturally have hyperpigmentation. It could be the smallest thing, a scratch. It could be, like you said, a mosquito bite going out in the sun. We're going to get a dark mark because of it.

So this will actually kind of keep it under control, keep the melanin from, you know, being hyperpigmented, which is not the normal color. And even you out, even out your skin tone. When I say brighten it up, I'm more so mean even it out. Okay, all right. Okay. Yeah, no, absolutely. So if you were going to use both of these, I would use the vitamin C theorem in the serum in the morning. I would use the retinol

serum in night. Okay, got it. Let's see. Questions from our panel. Let's see, who got some hyperpigmentation? I'm going to go with you, Cameron. Well, are you lucky I love you. I know you got to come for your boy. You got to come for your boy. But you can't turn your microphone on the beginning of the show.

That's why. Thank you. Doctor, yes. Dr. Thank you for joining us today. I'm actually learning more about this whole serum thing and the need for serums as I'm doing more and more TV and media and so forth. Can you speak to me more also about the need for what's the right mix of cocktail for folks like us who are moving in and around the country? Because sometimes we're in the cold, sometimes we're in the warm weather. and I always feel like a little bit of a dryness or sometimes depending on the weather conditions, like, oh, do I need to switch up?

Do I need to switch up my skin and face routine? Okay, so definitely you do need to switch it up a little bit because, you know, certain times a year there's more moisture in the air and if you're on the East Coast and it's really cold, then you need to have a like a thicker moisturizer. But something that works really well for me. and it's not in this immediate line, but when you are like bathing and showering and you get out of the shower and you should apply like an oil while your skin is still damp.

And then towel dry. I know it sounds strange, but I recommend this for a lot of my patients that have eczema, they have a lot of kids, they don't have a chance to lotion them down all the time. You apply the oil first and then you towel dry. That's going to lock in the moisture. You can pretty much do that anytime.

time of the year, but you're definitely going to go for a thicker moisturizer for the winter months. Wow. And then, yeah, you want to have a much thicker. Before you tile off. Before you tile dry. I know it sounds strange, but you try it and be like, wow, my skin is moisture. You can still lotion afterwards, but it's going to act as a sealant and just lock

in that moisture so you don't get this dryness. And then you follow it with the moisturizer after that, and you'll see that your skin is much more moist and more smooth and not Ashy. Oh, hell no. We can't do ash. We can't have ashy. Oh, hell.

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I keep, I keep a bottle of lotion in my backpack at all times. Good job. I don't tolerate ash. Can't do it. Phelma, lawyer bay, go. My question, because I am an advocate for self-care and especially getting facials, how often do you? do you recommend facials, especially when temperatures change?

I know the cell turnover plays a big part in the hyperpigmentation, but how often should we be getting facials? Well, it kind of depends on your skin type. You know, if you have more mature skin, dry skin, and you kind of need a little extra sometimes. So the main things that you need for your skin is exfoliation. you need to be using a form of vitamin C. You also need to moisturize your skin, especially.

So oftentimes when you get these facials, they focus on those things. And sometimes when the skin gets so dry, believe it or not, if you don't have like a hyluronic acid or like a glycolic acid or something kind of a peel first, your moisturizer doesn't penetrate. So oftentimes when you go get a facial, you get a like peel. I would say you definitely want to do it at least five times a year. something like that. If you are having a little bit more problems with your skin or if you have acne or something else, you may want to get it more often. But that's really all you need. If you have

a good skincare regimen at home, quite frankly, it's not as necessary. Greg. Thank you, Roland, and thank you, Dr. Susan. I'm asking this out of ignorance. Many years ago, I had a student who's now a colleague, Yaba Blay, Dr. Yaba Blay, who wrote a dissertation and the title was Yellow Fever. She was looking at skin bleaching in Africa in the United States among African people, generally, the Caribbean. And I guess I got a couple of questions because I was looking at your three-step accelerated brightening and smoothing kit. And I'm thinking, wow, this is very interesting. And Roland asked you about brightening. I wanted a couple of things.

We all remember, I'm old enough to remember the AMB products and the skin lightning. And as Yaba looked at it, it's like, this is really like skin bleaching cream. And I know that's not what this is. how is this different than previous generations? It sounds like it's much more scientific. You develop something. And then how do you distinguish this regimen, these regimen from the old school

when people used to slather you down with cocoa butter and all that kind of stuff or until you go get vitamin E? Or are they related? Is there some overlap? Listen, there's nothing wrong with slathering down cocoa butter from one. I mean, that's a good thing.

You know, people use Vaseline for my grandmother used to use that. I mean, those things aren't bad. But when it comes to brightening up the skin, previously there was Amby and a lot of different things that used hydroquinone. That was the name of the brightening. And if you use it for too long and too high concentrations, you can get like a permanent form of hyperpigmentation or dark spots. So it defeats the purpose. So it's pretty much been pulled, I think, over the last 10 years. You're not going to find those things having.

hydroquinone in there anymore. So what my brightening does is I use other things, natural things like licquish extract, niacinamide, and another one, a big one is trans-examic acid. And what it does is it goes in, if you're using it on a twice a day basis, like every 12 hours for six weeks, it really just suppresses your body's making too much pigment or hyperpigmentation and it evens out the skin tone more so than just brightens it. So I wouldn't call it bleaching. I would just call it, I call it brightening or evening out the skin.

All right then. So folks, we've got the anti-wrinkle neck face cream here. We've got the pure vitamin C and ferulec serum. And then we've got the pure retinol serum as well. All right, products are available. Go to shop, blackstart network.com. Go to the White House. You'll see the products there from Dr. Susan there on the website.

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