#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Indy mass shooting; Will DOJ reopen Tamir Rice case? Crazy a$$ man drags cop w/ car doesn't get shot

Episode Date: April 17, 2021

4.16.21 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Indy mass shooting claims the lives of 8; Family of Tamir Rice asks DOJ to reopen case? Tennessee authorities say cop wounded during a confrontation with a student inside a high school bathroom was not shot by the student's gun; Bill to make D.C. the nation's 51st state will get a vote in the full House next week; Newsmax Reporter wants President Biden to fire a Black UN Ambassador for her speech about slavery and white supremacy; Crazy a$$ man drags a cop with his car doesn't get shot; Education Matters: Pennsylvania is failing Charter Schools and we'll breakdown why.Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered#RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Also, the family of Tamir Rice, they want federal authorities to reopen the case of the slain 12-year-old. Also in today's show, Tennessee authorities say a police officer wounded a woman during a confrontation with a student inside of a high school bathroom. A lot of people are saying saying what in the world happened. Also, today's show, April 22nd, that's when the House is going to vote on the bill to make D.C. the 51st state. Also in today's show, nonsense from Newsmax.

They actually are questioning whether President Joe Biden is going to get rid of his black United Nations ambassador because she dared talk about white supremacy. But your network loves white supremacy. Also on today's show, a white man drags a police officer around in his car in Minnesota. White man still living. Guns never pulled out. It's amazing what happens when you're white and black in America. Also, in our education segment, we'll talk about Pennsylvania and how our children are failing in those public schools. And also, folks, just a few words about what it means to be black on media. All of that.

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The best you know, he's Rollin' Martin Now He's fresh. He's real. The best you know, he's rolling. I got it. All right, folks, a former employee, 19 years old, went to a FedEx facility last night in Indianapolis, killing eight people, wounding a number of others. Man, talk about an absolutely tragic story. The folks and people are complaining because FedEx employees are not allowed to have personal cell phones. And people say that could have actually saved some lives. This is a statement released today by FedEx chairman Fred Smith. It is with a heavy heart that I write to you regarding the tragedy that occurred at our FedEx ground facility in Indianapolis last night. While it will take some time to fully understand what happened, we know we lost 18 members in this senseless act of

violence. First and foremost, I want to express my deepest sympathies to the families, friends, and co-workers of those team members. Our priority right now is in responding to the situation on the ground and helping our team members and law enforcement. We have a team on site in Indianapolis to provide support and we're making counselors available. This is a devastating day and words are hard to describe the emotions we all feel. Please keep the Indianapolis team and surrounding community in your thoughts and prayers as we continue to support and care for each other in the difficult days ahead. Again, the authorities said the suspect arrived at the facility, got out of his car real quick, began to fire shots,

and then later killed himself. Four people were shot inside, and then, of course, four killed inside, four killed outside. Let's go to our panel. Xavier Pope, host of Suit Up News news, owner of the Pope law firm. Also, Teresa Lundy, principal founder, TML Communications. Michael Imhotep hosts the African History Network. What we're dealing with here, point blank, what we're dealing with here is real simple.

And that is, Teresa, a fundamental problem in this country with these mass shootings. If you look at the last two weeks, we have had a number of mass shootings and it just just goes to show you how crazy America is with this infatuation with guns. Yeah, and you would think laws would actually start to get passed so we could stop this senseless violence. But unfortunately, this is where we are. And the innocent lives that were taken at FedEx and the response to it, it also shows what type of protocols that actually need to be in place at a corporate facilitation. Unfortunately, they may now need to have, what do you call it, the security, security mechanisms where they are checking for guns and everything else, because apparently, you know, we have people that are not stable, mentally stable, that are working at somebody's facility. So it's very unfortunate that is what's

happening here in this country nationally on the conversation as it relates to gun violence. I'm hoping that this strategy also probably incites some more opportunities for some of these legislators to really step up and do their just due. I don't believe they're going to do that, Xavier. Bottom line is look what's happening in Texas right now. They literally are talking about allowing people to open carry without a license. I mean, Republicans in this country, their philosophy is just guns and guns and guns and guns and guns and more guns. Xavier, we can't hear you. Please unmute, man. Yeah, it's time to have, instead of worrying about these cultural discussions, Roland, over guns, over race, and over a virus, it's time to actually get into the business of real

governing, Roland. I mean, what are the Republicans are seeking to have open carry in wherever you want when we have a gun violence, 147 mass shootings already in 2021 already. And we also have the issue of the fourfold increase in mental health issues in this country since the beginning of the pandemic. And so we don't know what type of world that we're opening ourselves back up to with these increased shootings. And so we don't know what type of world that we're opening ourselves back up to with these increased shootings. And so we have to get into the business of protecting Americans.

We can't, we shouldn't be getting numb to this. This is a reality. This is a people dying. And we have a whole section of our country that's okay with people dying because of COVID, dying because of guns, and dying over police misconduct. It has to stop.

Well, the reality, Michael, is until you do something about this fascination, love affair with guns in this country, we're going to keep seeing these things happen. This is a violent nation. They love and adore their guns well you know roland uh xavier was talking about uh culture wars you have to understand the white nationalist party the gop you're dealing with white supremacy and racism and guns are part of that if you go back i think it was 2018 scientific american had a study that showed there were 300 million guns in the U.S., 300 million guns in the U.S. And at the time, there was approximately, I think, maybe about 320 million people in the country.

78 percent of Americans don't own guns. Fifty percent of the guns were owned by 3% of the population, overwhelmingly white males. So this is part of this whole cultural war that the GOP is pushing. The stolen election, the fear of the browning of America, culture wars, Dr. Seuss, all this is connected together. Hold on to your guns, okay? They're coming for your guns. And what's interesting in this case right here, there was a late update today from FBI

Special Agent Paul Keenan, who talked about this young man, his name has been released, Brian Scott Hull, H-O-L-L-E, he's 19 years old. He was visited by the authorities in March 2020. His mother feared that he would attempt suicide. Actually, quoting directly from NBC News, in March 2020, the suspect's mother contacted law enforcement to report he might try to attempt suicide by cop. So the authorities go out, they investigate. He had a shotgun. A shotgun was seized at his residence based on items observed in the suspect's bedroom at the time. He was interviewed by the FBI in April 2020. No racially motivated violent extremism ideology was identified during the

course of the assessment and no criminal violation was found. The shotgun was not returned to the suspect. So you're dealing with a number of different issues here. And also, mental health is something that impacts people of different races, okay? Not just white people. I want to make that clear. African-Americans, I think all of us suffer from some type of PTSD, okay? I know I suffer from PTSD. It was called President Trump's stress disorder.

I know I do, okay? But we also have to deal with the mental health issue as well, when we deal with a lot of these just senseless shootings. OK, and also it appears that he killed himself also from from all the reports right now. So, you know, this this is this is just crazy. Well, absolutely crazy. But again, it goes to show you exactly what is happening in this country. There's just the mental state and this absolutely a love affair and desire when it comes to guns, but also how different folks were treated. I mean, because look, if this guy hadn't turned the gun himself, it's a good bet he likely would have been captured and there have

been no issues. Let's talk about that in Minnesota. This video went viral on yesterday where this 60 plus year old white man dragged a cop around like he was a rag doll back and forth. No guns pulled out. He wasn't shot. Y'all watch this video. Oh, no. The cop

is on there. Oh. Now, re-cue it. I want you to play it again. Turn the audio up. Oh. Talk. Oh, hell no.

The cop is on there. This was crazy, Xavier. Unlike Daunte Wright, unlike George Floyd, unlike so many other cases, it's amazing how white folks just act a fool with cops. Guns don't come out. They don't mistake tasers for guns. I just talked about this in the last episode. Guns for tasers.

Go ahead. I'm sorry. I just talked about this in the last episode of Suit Up News, Roland. It just dropped a couple of days ago. A $20 bill, a license plate, air fresheners. We can go on and on. Sleeping, jogging, all the different mundane interactions that black people have with the police. And we just saw the 13-year-old

killed with his hands in the air. But the white man could just use his car as an actual weapon, and he's okay. Maybe if they find him, they give him a cheeseburger, brother. I mean, it just, it goes to show you, Michael, that police officers, they have restraint. They use it. Well, see, when you have incidences like this, Roland, they see their grandfather.

They see that crazy Uncle Joe. You know, they see they see their father. So they're less likely to use deadly force on him. I mean, I can't imagine if that was, I mean, they even pulled, if I remember correctly, didn't they pull guns on James Brown? When that chase? Yeah. Oh, yes. The godfather of soul.

Oh, yes. And everybody knew who he was, and they pulled guns on James Brown. So now what's interesting, I want everybody to Google trigger bias studies. Trigger bias studies, because trigger bias studies deal with, they've done a number of different studies on this. And it deals with who people are more likely to pull the trigger on. This is real, trigger bias studies. And there was an article I read some years ago, and I'll pull it up and give you the actual name of the article, Roland. But it was a summary. It was from a CBS local affiliate. It was a summary of 26 trigger bias

studies. And what it concluded was that white people, especially police officers, are not as quick to pull the trigger on someone white than they are African American because of thousands of images that we have been bombarded with over years, tens of thousands of images. African American suspects fit the criteria or fit what they think of as a criminal more so than a white suspect. So when we look at an incident like this, that officer could have very well been killed. They didn't draw their guns, they didn't draw tasers or anything like this. But the suspect, the white male suspect, reminds them of their own family members.

This is why they're less likely to do that. But when they see us, because of tens of thousands of images that they have seen over the years of negative stereotypical images of African Americans, we automatically appear as a threat. Okay? And lastly,

there was a study that colorchange.org did about three years ago. It looked at local news and local news outlets, TV stations, local news outlets. And it looked at the stories that had African Americans as the suspects. And we disproportionately were the suspects in these news stories, but it was disproportionate to the arrest of African-Americans. So they looked at New York, for instance. 75 percent of the stories dealing with crimes were committed by African-American suspects. But we make that made up about 51% of those arrested. So what this is doing, and you've talked about this before, Roland, this helps to shape the way people think,

feel, act, and behave towards African Americans. So we also not just have to do with policing, but this system of white supremacy and these negative stereotypical images that are projected of us as well. Well, bottom line is this here. I mean, again, we simply see the disparate treatment and it's abundantly clear. Anybody can see it. It's without a doubt, Teresa. And again, it's amazing. We talk about, again, restraint and what should happen. They know how to practice restraint when they want to, Teresa. They know how not to pull out guns. They know how to keep their tone down.

They know how to deescalate. But when it's black folks, all of a sudden, it's we on 10. I would love to see a study actually conducted with the police officers to see how many issues

and encounters they come with daily that's outside of black people or people of color and how they de-escalated a situation. I have a few friends who are police officers and I asked them, I was like, how many issues do you guys deal with, probably in a given year, that has to do with de-escalation tactics? And some of them was just like a lot of them and we don't have to use our firearm. It says, but when it comes to black people, it's the ultimate like fear. It's like almost like it's in within their training, you know, handbook when they become a police officer, you know, when they go into these areas of impoverished areas where they just feel like these are the most dangerous people because

they're living in dangerous neighborhoods. So I think there should probably be a more deeper analysis in some of the case studies that some of these police officers are actually doing in order to calm some of these issues, because it's really intolerable to see the separation of how one group of people is being treated versus the other one that's being treated. And so my probably my charge to some of these police commissioners, especially since we have, you know, the separation of a gun versus a taser, how you interact with black people, how you interact with people who don't look like you on a daily basis. So I would probably want to see what that looks like and what are those conversations, because it is happening and it could happen to a district near them.

We should be talking about. all right let's let's go let's go go ahead you should be talking i want to make sure we shouldn't be having a conversation about de-escalation in the first place for compliance versus non-compliance when you get people that are getting pulled over are being stopped for mundane activities so that white gentleman you saw in that truck he's probably getting pulled over for a legitimate reason. You see that some of the many other folks, they're just getting yanked off the street. And so we can't get to the de-escalation conversation. We have some people are not even getting that commerce, that engagement police officers in the first place. Absolutely. All right, folks, let's go to Tennessee, where the black student who was

shot and killed in the bathroom at Austin East Magan High School in Knoxville did not shoot the wounded school resource officer. You might have been seeing this story, folks. In the initial report, which you all know we've been down this path before in the initial report, police claimed they claimed that 17 year old Anthony J. Thompson Jr. shot at the officer. But the report from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation says Thompson never fired his gun. Yes, it appears another police officer shot him during the incident. Okay. Now the result of the investigation, the result of the Bureau's investigation will be given to the school district attorney when complete. Um, how many times are we going to have to deal with lies from police officers about shootings?

Here is young African-American who's dead, dead because the cops fired and they lied. So how many more times are we going to have to deal with the lies? I have continuously said, I've continuously said, Michael, that if a cop lies on the report, automatic firing. Because we saw what took place in Chicago with the story yesterday. When the cops lie, the prosecutor, they only hear their story. They don't hear an alternative view. So they accept that as the truth. So they go to court.

And now you have the police officer. Now the prosecutor who lay out the facts. Judges go, okay, we trust them. There we go. No, they lot. This is why, sorry, we have to question every single time there's a cop shooting. We have to automatically assume they're lying. Yeah, you know, we have to get the facts on on these different types of shootings. You know, this reminds me of Breonna Taylor.

And they said that the police said that Breonna Taylor's boyfriend shot one of the officers in the leg. But then we look at the, I think it was the Kentucky State Bureau of Investigation. One of the analysis said it was inconclusive that it was his gun that fired the shot that hit the officer in the leg. I think we've talked about that before. So, you know, yeah, once again, this is why, one, you have to get the facts. Two, officers that lie on police reports have to be held accountable, have to be fired. And then this ties into what we saw in Chicago. And we see the video of the 13-year-old turns around, okay, and Toledo, he turns around at him. And it appears his hands are empty. But it's a split second from him turning around that he gets shot.

And he's compliant. He's doing what the officer told him to do. So yeah, once again, this is example why we have to get the facts, hold police accountable. And also, the flip side of this, we gotta push hard to get the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act passed in the Senate as well. I know it's an uphill battle. But again, but that's solely separate. What I'm talking about is that that's a federal law.

What I'm talking about here, but what I'm talking here, Xavier, that has to happen. City leaders have to simply say in negotiations, Xavier, if these officers lie and report, they lose their jobs. Period. Gotta go beyond that, Roland. We do. Because we saw the whole Jussie Smollett situation. The whole issue with the right was

him filing a false police report. And that's a crime. But if a police officer files a false police report, we're talking about firing when people's lives could potentially be at stake. If you are engaging

the process of law, there are plenty of other professions that are governed a certain way. Just like we saw Bernie Madoff, he died this week. In the financial profession, if you go beyond a certain level of professional standard, it is a crime.

So if you're using the color of law to be able to file false police reports, lie on police reports, and this leads to people losing their freedom, that should be a crime. There needs to be a change in a model penal code. And also we see a lot of these different police trials that there are specific charges that really mostly apply to the public. Well, we should be having a specific criminal statute. If you do these things under the color of law, then this is a crime. The purpose of statutes on the criminal books is to deter crime. And so that's what we need to do to be able to keep officers from using their position, using their authority to be able to abuse it in front of the law and figure that they can just do it over and over again. Teresa. I agree, because most of the reports that are given by police are the the almost like the agency of record, you know, in a court of law.

So, you know, God forbid something happens to the officer after he gives that report. Well, if we need to, you know, ask that officer something and unfortunately he gets slain in a line of duty for another incident, we only have that report to justify that case. And it's so unfortunate because as many times as we have heard police officers, oh, you know, I made a mistake. Oh, you know, maybe I embellished a little bit. There's no accountability. And, you know, Xavier was spot on as it relates to ensuring that some more laws and more, probably just more just reprim reports, you know, are, you know, uphold to the same criminal activity. I mean, because look, a lot that the point of the matter is a lot of police officers do not like to do reports. And so some may just, you know, write casually what they saw. But that report would really, you know, be almost like a final testimony in the midst of a court hearing if it gets there.

Well, absolutely. So bottom line, folks, we see some of the actions, how quick these cops are. In fact, we talked about that case out of Chicago in Cleveland. Tamir Rice's family, they want the Justice Department to reopen the case where he was shot and killed. In a letter sent to the Justice Department. This is what the family Tamir Rice wrote, quote, We ask that you reopen the investigation into the death of Tamir Rice. There's no statute of limitations on prosecuting Lohman for killing Tamir in violation of his civil rights. See 8 Section 18 USC 242.

In making this plea, we are mindful that no one can guarantee a conviction and that prosecutions against police officers present special challenges. But it is vital for DOJ to establish that those who enforce our laws are subject to our laws. The police must be held accountable and prosecuted for criminal wrongdoing. This case involves the unjustified killing of a child and a prosecution that was thwarted through political abuse. Fortunately, it is not too late to correct this manifest injustice. In December, the DOJ decided it will not pursue federal criminal charges against the two Cleveland cops who killed the 12-year-old Tamir Rice in 2014. This, to me, I think is an important move, Xavier.

And bottom line is a different DOJ. Look, there's no guarantee. Remember, the Obama Department of Justice chose not to prosecute the cop who killed Michael Brown. The DOJ also chose not to prosecute the case, the police officer who was later fired, who killed Eric Garner. And so it was Attorney General Eric Holder who warned us. He warned us about the issues with the Department of Justice. He warned us the problems that they have because there is a very high bar that they have to meet in order to be able to pursue civil rights violations. And so everybody who's listening, the Department of Justice cannot pursue the state criminal charges that are against them. They can't do that. What they have to they can only pursue. They can only pursue those other charges, that is, civil rights violations.

And so I think that's why it's important for us to understand exactly what DOJ can and cannot do. But I dare say, Xavier, what Tamir Rice's family is asking for really is important because they want a fresh set of eyes, a new Department of Justice, to determine whether or not to pursue charges against the cop who killed their son. That's right, Roland. The previous DOJ said there was not enough evidence

to establish what happened. The video clearly shows us what happened. The police reports said that they told Tamir Rice to put his hands in the air. He didn't. He was shot. The video clearly shows the second the cop pulls up, he shoots and kills Tamir Rice. The same what we saw with with adam toledo like how many times do we have to see these videos we clearly can see with our own two eyes as lay people what has happened and then you have a department of justice say we

can't definitively establish what's happened if you see that at any person on the street shoot someone on video without saying so much as a word they're going to jail roland and so that's the that's what we're dealing with is what we're seeing right in front of our eyes we do the right thing the movie by spike lee 30 plus years old afraid relevant to what's going on right now after radio rahi is killed one of the gentlemen on the scene says it is clear as day they didn't have to kill the boy and that's what we're faced with now um this i think is critically important theresa uh this decision here uh because again they just they want a fresh pair of eyes on the case. And they deserve it. I mean, the the according to the last president president.

Sorry, the last DOJ, they said they couldn't see the video. The video wasn't clear. Like, you know, sorry, it's not 4K quality, but the circumstances still remain the same. You know, a kid was outside. Tamir Rice was outside playing with a handgun. The officer asked no questions. He pulled up and he shot at him and killed him. And so when the family is asking for justice, they're asking for a fresh set of eyes, and they absolutely deserve it. Because part of it is when we look at, you know, the cases that are happening in America and we're asking, you know, our justice system to actually do something different, part of it is we need someone that's going to take a clear approach. And obviously, Barr wasn't doing it prior because he had his own issues. But I think hopefully, you know,

Mayor Garland would actually do something different this time around. So I'm glad that letter was actually sent to them and was brought to the light. So hopefully some action can come. Michael? Yeah, you know, Roland, I definitely think the case should be opened back up under the new Department of Justice. When you go back and research the case, and I reported on this case a lot here in Detroit, Officer Timothy Lowman shot Tamir Rice within less than two seconds. I remember Attorney Benjamin Crump said it was about 1.8 seconds of the police car arriving,

shot him within about 1.8 seconds and one thing that's important to understand is that when an officer gives a command you have to give the person a reasonable amount of time to respond to the command he didn't have time to respond to any command okay and he was he and he was shot um Um, yes, the, yes, the video was grainy, but there's other evidence. Okay. There's other evidence as well. So, uh, but once again, you, you, you got to understand this is, uh, attorney general William Barr, former attorney general William Barr, who says systemic racism and policing didn't exist. Okay. Now, one good thing, um, uh, you mentioned, uh, attorney general Merrick Garland, Merrick Garland put out a four page memo today rescinding the Trump era almost ban on the Justice Department's use of consent decrees.

So a police department. So he's reversing that. So that that is something good. So hopefully the attorney general, Merrick Gar Garland will reopen this investigation. It should be. All right, then, folks, a lot of conversation has taken place since the death of Daunte Wright about the use. First of all, not understand the difference between a Glock as well as a handgun. My goodness, you even had Pat Robertson who was condemning cops for not understanding the difference. This was a video put out by TikTok, put on TikTok by a police officer who himself was not at all happy with the officer confusing her taser and her gun. Dominant

Not so dominant Huge weight difference guys I don't understand how we can mistake A taser for a gun Or a gun for a taser If you're in the heat at the moment And you do something like that You shouldn't be doing this job

Because nobody likes a bad cop more than a good cop I can tell that straight up. I'm not going to put my life on the line to try and, you know, fix your stupidity and deal with, you know, restoring the peace with my public that I serve just because of your stupid actions. It makes no sense. 99 99 of our job is communication you don't gotta be quick to pull out a gun or a taser on somebody and think everybody's a threat not everybody's a threat try talking to them get to know them people and that's what we've all been saying and yeah'm going to let a white cop put that video out there because I've always said cops should be calling out other cops who screw up, Teresa. Yeah, and that's a great example of what should be happening, you know, in other counties and bureaus across the country. I think that was a very, you know, special moment for, you know, those who were watching that video and saying, you know what, he's absolutely right.

Now, we've heard it many a times from others saying, you know, what's the difference? We didn't saw elected officials holding up different pictures of what a taser and what a Glock looks like. But having somebody who's actually on the force, who, you know, who embodies exactly, you know, the job and knows that, you know, communication matters the most, especially if you are policing and serving these communities, it really does hit home. And I just, you know, I'm glad he still has a job. You just never know these days if department privileges takes that video down. But I think, you know, we need to hold them accountable. And I think more opportunities where we hear police officers talk about the injustice of those other, you know, bad apples,

you know, that they always say that lies in their department, they still call them out. Absolutely. I just think that, again, you have more of that than, of course, you're going to have people who are going to really, really deal with this whole issue. And then, of course, you got cops like this in North Las Vegas. Police there are under fire after a video of a black deaf mother being handcuffed and hurled to the ground in front of her children was shared on Facebook. Last week, Andrea Hollingsworth and her 11-year-old twins went to visit a landlord to get her rent money back because she was no longer living there. The homeowners called the police and accused Hollingsworth of harassment. North Las Vegas police caught up with the black family.

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I saw it. Look out. I can't hear you. You can't hear me? Okay. issue mom but sit down

no I would know for happy. She will sit down on the curb and I will let her know. I will let her know since she sits down. Now, you're here because a friend of hers is saying she's out here stalking and harassing. She's not stalking. She just needs... I don't know what the truth is, but have her sit down. Have her sit down.

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Okay? She's kind of too insecure. I don't... It doesn't matter to me. What I need to know is I'm investigating something. I just need to be safe. That's all there is to it, okay? She's just over here because she needs her money back from her friend.

That's what I'm trying to find out. But you see how... We need to get there. Sit. Don't be... Don't be getting away. What is she doing? She's not, she's just not doing anything. Okay, well she's not following directions is what's not happening. It's very simple. Does she have ID? I need ID. ID? Yes, ID. Yeah, in the car. Okay, Go. Nope, nope, nope. Sit. Sit. She'll get it. She don't know.

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It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. According to the National Association of the Deaf, officers violated the Americans with Disabilities Act when they ordered Hollingsworth daughters to act as interpreters. Folks, again, we keep saying this over and over again, when you have these instances where police are called, if they are not at all trained to deal with this, they don't know what they're doing. Which is why people, when they talk about defund the police, they're talking about they're talking about being able to utilize being able to utilize social workers and other professionals. And that's why they do that. All right, folks, got to go to break. We come back. This transgender bill in Florida literally is going to allow for school officials to inspect the genitals of students. We'll explain next on Roland Martin Unfiltered. I believe that it's movement time again. In America today, the economy is not working for working people.

The poor and the needy are being abused. You are the victims of power. And this is the abuse of economic power. I'm 23 years old. I work three jobs. Seven days a week. No days off. They're paying people pennies on the dollar compared to what they profit and it is time for this to end. Essential workers have been showing up to work, feeding us, caring for us, delivering goods to us

throughout this entire pandemic and they've been doing it on a measly $7.25 minimum wage. The highest check I ever got was nearly $291. I can't take it no more. You know, the fight for 15 is a lot more than about $15 an hour. This is about a fight for your dignity. We have got to recognize that working people deserve livable wages. And it's long past time for this nation to go to 15 so that moms and dads don't have to choose between asthma inhalers and rent. I'm halfway homeless.

The main reason that people end up in their cars is because income does not match housing costs. If I could just only work one job, I could have more time with them. It is time for the owners of Walmart, McDonald's, Dollar General, and other large corporations to get off welfare and pay their workers a living wage. And if you really want to tackle racial equity, you have to raise the minimum wage. We're not just fighting for our families, we're fighting for yours too. We need this.

I'm going to fight for it until we get're fighting for yours too. We need this. I'm going to fight for it until we get it. I'm not going to give up. We just need all of us to stand up as one nation and just fight together. Families are relying on these salaries and they must be paid at a minimum $15 an hour. $15 a minimum anyone should be making to stay out of poverty. I can't take it no more. I'm doing this for not only me, but for everybody.

We need 15 right now. Hi, my name is Latoya Luckett. Yo, it's your man Deon Cole from Black-ish, and you're watching... Roland Martin, Unfiltered. Stay woke. First of all, welcome back. This new bill is weird, y'all, out of Florida, okay? It supports the settling of disputes over students' gender through a physical examination. The Fairness in Women's Sports Act states, requires that certain athletic teams or sports sponsored by certain educational institutions be designated on the basis of students' biological sex. It prohibits athletic teams or sports designated for female students

to be open to male students. It requires a student school or the student school institution as applicable resolve disputes regarding students' sex. It requires the state board of education to adopt certain rules, provides for civil remedies and damages. This means an institution can request documentation from a student's health care provider that verifies the student's biological sex. The bill also gives a student's school permission to request a routine sports physical examination of students' reproductive organs, genetic makeup or testosterone levels. LGBTQ advocates argue the bill is discriminatory and could expose students to physical and sexual abuse and trauma. I have said to several other people, Teresa, that we dealt with the transgender bathroom bill, and that was repealed in North Carolina. It was repealed in Indiana. Conservatives pretty much backed off of it.

You're going to see a lot more of these bills when it's tied to sports. People are going to have a different attitude because of how crazy and deranged are. I think this is this right here. This bill is going to go to other states. This is the next cultural flashpoint for the far right. Yeah, I mean, I think the LGBTQ plus community needs to continue to fight for their rights as it relates to equality across the board. I think this bill will be interesting to watch. I think there is a, I'm not entirely sure I agree with the physical examination, you know, by probably a physician either on-site or off-site. But most of the conversation that's been happening is, you know, these families are feeling like their child doesn't have a fair, you They have to remember that there is decades of, you know, just equality issues all around.

So continue to fight. Xavier. Again, when we start talking about sports in America, all these folks, they think that everybody, the key is going to go pro. This is going to be one of those hot button issues. The right is going to try to knock the left over the head.

It's going to be a question of if you're a Democrat, do you support it? Are you against it? Trust me, I see where this is going. Watch other states pass similar bills. Roland, didn't we just see USA Swimming, their their scandal with the sexual assaults and the sex that that particular issue? Then we just see this in Michigan State gymnastics. And even one of the officials involved even killing himself. We've seen the right attempt to say stick to sports.

But here they are getting involved in sports and couching it under women's rights issues, knowing darn well they don't care about women when they're trying to inflict issues on their reproductive parts and taking the agency away from women in terms of abortion laws and so we're we're seeing it is an expansion of these cultural wars that the right is having thinking that the the fever from their uh their the population and the people that support them are going to get bring their butts to the polls to be able to support them in 2022 and 2024. This is all laying the groundwork for the white grievance that they are continuing to push on, whether it's Mr. Potato Head, whether it's Dr. Seuss. Whatever they are doing, they're influencing in terms of how people think and how they're going to vote to be able to buffer up the amount of people that get up to the polls this is just increasing the enthusiasm but what we saw in north carolina like you talked about earlier indiana the pressure from the sports community

pushes back on this as well so we also will see this on the other side uh by and large this here again i think what you're seeing is uh the right is always about the cultural touch points. How do they rev up their white conservative evangelical base? They see how the economy is doing very well for President Joe Biden. Trust me, we're going to see more hot button issues being pressed in order to get that white conservative evangelical folks out to vote for the midterm elections next year, Michael? Yeah, you're right about this, Roland, because Republicans really aren't doing anything when it comes to fighting coronavirus or when it comes to the economy or when it comes to helping, you know, raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour. You know, they're not doing anything there. So they're going to push something like this. Now, in reading this, what's very interesting, Roland, now number one, you have dozens of similar bills like this trying to

be pushed through state legislatures. This one goes further because, this passed the State House representatives already in Florida. This one goes farther because it allows inspection of genitals. But in reading this,

it's called the Fairness in Women's Sports Act. It bans transgender female athletes from competing on women's athletic teams in both high school and college sports, although transgender male athletes may still compete on either team. So I don't even understand that. What? It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. But once again, this is Florida. And Governor Ron DeSantis will probably sign us into law, okay? Just like he is pushing this anti-riot bill, okay? Because of the Black Lives Matter

activists, he's pushing that as well. So this is going to be another culture issue, just like gay marriage was a culture issue. They can't say that the, let's be honest, Roland, they can't say they're the party of family values anymore. They can't say after Donald Trump and after sugar daddy Matt Gaetz, they can't say they're the party of family values anymore. So they're pushing these different culture issues trying to win votes and trying to maintain power. I don't think it's going to work, though. It may work in Florida, but across the country it's not going to work. Well, all right then, folks, let's talk about D.C.

The battle for D.C. statehood continues as the U.S. House will vote on April 22nd to make D.C. the 51st state. The House Oversight and Reform Committee voted to approve H.R. 51 after hearing a strong opening statement by Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton and powerful testimony by Mayor Miro Bowser. The contentious bill passed in the House last year but was shut down by the Republican-led Senate. Timmy Hoyer, of course, he is the majority leader. He has already said point blank, point blank, that it's going to come up for a vote. Real simple. Xavier,

does it pass? Do Democrats pass it again? And will Senate Democrats give it a shot for a vote in the U.S. Senate? Yes or no? Two words, Joe Manchin. Roland. Teresa so yeah does it pass? Yes in the House not sure in the Senate though but it passes the House Michael now with 212 co-sponsors it won't pass

in the House you need 218 so if they can't get to 218 they're 212 co-sponsors, it won't pass in the House. You need 218. So if they can't get to 218, they're at 212 right now. But I think it's going to die in the Senate. But hopefully Democrats will increase their lead in the 2020 midterm election in the Senate where you can eventually get this passed through. But I don't think it's going to pass. You need 60 votes in the Senate. I don't think I don't think it's going to pass in the Senate. All right, folks, white folks love these these white supremacy media outlets love hating on black folks, especially when they call out white supremacy. The ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas Greenville. Well, she gave remarks at the 30th Annual National Action Network Convention, where she addressed white supremacy being at the foundation of America. Watch this. In a diverse country like ours, that means committing to do the work. It means learning and understanding more about each other. It means engaging trailblazing groups like yours to teach, to grow, to include, to improve. It means not forgetting our past or ignoring our present,

but keeping both firmly in mind as we push for a better future. I tried to do this recently in the UN General Assembly when I spoke on the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. That day and commemoration was personal for me. So I told the UN some personal stories. I told them how my great grandmother, Mary Thomas, born in 1865, was the child of a slave just three generations back from me. I grew up in the segregated South. I was bused to a segregated school. On weekends, the Klan burned crosses on lawns in our neighborhood.

I shared these stories and others to acknowledge on the international stage that I have personally experienced one of America's greatest imperfections. I've seen for myself how the original sin of slavery weaved white supremacy into our founding documents and principles. But I also shared these stories to offer up an insight, a simple truth I've learned over the years. Racism is not the problem of the person who experiences it. Those of us who experience racism cannot and should not internalize it despite the impact it can have on our everyday lives. Racism is the problem of the racist. And it is the problem of the society that produces the racist.

And in today's world. Well, well, at today's White House press briefing, Newsmax reporter Emeril Robinson actually asked Press Secretary Jen Psaki if Biden was going to fire his U.N. ambassador for those comments. Go ahead in the back. Thanks, Jen. The U.S. ambassador to the U.N., Linda Thomas-Greenfield, talking to her group on Wednesday,

said that, essentially said that, white supremacy is woven into our founding documents and principles. Now, this statement is getting widely criticized as essentially parroting Chinese Communist Party talking points. So is the president going to remove her from her position as the representative before that body to promote United States values? Is the president going to remove an African-American woman with decades of experience in the Foreign Service,

who's widely respected around the world, from her position as ambassador to the UN? He is not. He is proud to have her in that position. She is not only qualified, he believes she is exactly the right person in that role at this moment in time. I have not seen her comments. I will say that there's no question that there has been a history of institutional racism in this country, and that doesn't require the UN ambassador to confirm that. So that's essentially the same lecture, though, that the Chinese delegation gave Secretary Blinken in Alaska last month.

So does the president think our founding documents are racist? I would say that I will leave my comments to speak for themselves. And certainly, I think most people recognize the history of systemic racism in our country. And she was speaking to that. Newsmax. Take your ass on if y'all actually think he's going to fire the U.N. ambassador, a black woman who's talking about racism in America like she experienced it. Xavier, sit down. Newsmax isn't even news. Newsmax is propaganda max. That's what they are. And great answers that she's been giving from what their quote-unquote reporters have been seeking to do. They're not asking questions.

They're seeking to establish content for their network and for their followers to be able to push propaganda. This isn't news. This isn't journalism. All this is doing is stoking up white grievance. This is profoundly racist to be able to suggest that a black woman wouldn't know what's going on with racism in the country and to be able to attach that to another aspect of talking about Chinese delegation and talking points, connecting this anti-China, anti-Asian Pacific Islander stoking that they're doing. It is absolutely ridiculous. It shouldn't be recognized at all. I'm just sort of laughing, Teresa. Oh, is he going to get rid of Harry? Hell no!

You know what? Jen has been astonishing handling the media and, more importantly, handling Emerald Robinson, especially in this scenario. It's funny because when it actually aired, I was like, well, let's see if they actually use that clip on Newsmax of what Jen said. And you should have saw the way it was pieced together because, I mean, this is the first time I'm rolling that I'm seeing it in full length of Jen's comments because everything was just kind of pieced. So I thought that was interesting. But again, I agree with Brother Pope. It's literally building content for their propaganda to raise up their base, to keep that 74 million people that voted for Trump energized. And I think, you know, that Ms. Greenfield did not experience exactly what everybody has been saying, racism in this country, you know, slavery, you know, back when and the nuance of slavery and the new Jim Crow. So, you know, part of that ignorance is not willing to understand and not willing to have that base of wanting to educate yourself. There are so many scholarly articles. But like I said before,

congrats to our press secretary for doing the work of the people. First of all, she spoke a whole lot of words, Michael. This really should have been her response. Hell no. Next.

Well, you know, Roland, I posted about this. I read about this article. I posted about it a few hours ago, man, from rawstory.com. First of all, the response that I wanted Jen Psaki to give was the same one Maxine Waters gave punk ass Jim Jordan yesterday. Shut your mouth. Okay, that's the response. I wanted Jen Psaki to give to Emerald Robinson.

But Greenfield said something very, very important. And this ties into your interview with Dr. Ray Winbush yesterday about HR 40 coming out of House Judiciary Committee. Dr. Ray Winbush, who's a friend of mine, he said that he could not believe how ignorant many of the Republicans were on the committee about history. That's what this ties into. Greenfield talked about founding documents. These fools haven't read the founding documents. Half of them can't read. They haven't read the Constitution.

The Constitution sanctions slavery. The Constitution, Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution deals with the three-fifths compromise of 1787. Article 4, Section 2 of the Constitution lays the foundation for the Fugitive Slave Act of 1793 and 1850. The Constitution sanctions slavery. So she's absolutely correct. The problem is you dealing, you ain't just dealing with white supremacists. You're dealing with ignorant people that don't understand their own history. This is why they had to have this revision, this 1776 commission that Donald Trump put together to attack the 1619 project. And thankfully, Joe Biden decommissioned, he disbanded that commission, okay? So this is

another one of these culture wars, but it comes from a total misunderstanding of history. This is why America has to have a massive history lesson. OK, when we're talking about reparations, OK, that has a historical and legal foundation. America has to have a massive history lesson because so many of us, regardless of race, are ignorant of history. They don't want to know. I got some breaking. One second, one second, one second. Got some breaking news here.

President Joe Biden earlier today announced he was not going to be lifting the cap on refugee admissions. Oh, the right love that. They said he was agreeing with the Trump policy. Well, just in about announcing he is reversing course and plans to increase the cap on refugee admissions. What the hell were they thinking, Teresa? Did they think they were just going to slide this one by? Probably so. But then we have a president that has a few of advisers that is just like, no, this just doesn't work. So congrats to President Biden. This is this was a very contentious issue. First of all, again, you got you got these white supremacists like Tucker Carlson out there talking about why this this white replacement theory. But bottom line is they the ones we have no damn kids. Numbers don't lie.

America is not repopulating because fewer people are having children. Again, there's no lie. And so many people have said that Trump's policy was racist. It was wrong, wrongheaded. It caught a lot of people by surprise when Biden announced that his administration was going to continue it. They got withering pressure today from Democrats already backtracking. I'm sure you know what's going to come next.

He's going to get hit by the right. Oh, he flip flop smart decision or should be stuck with the original plan. Michael, I was a little confused by the original plan. I saw an update about that and I haven't had a chance to really dig into it. But I figured just initially looking at it, I figured that he would change course on that. When you talk about a negative birth rate, you are correct. Because June 2018, the Census Bureau put out a memo saying that white people had a negative birth rate in 26 states out of 50. And what this once again does, it plays into this fear of the browning of America. So I think you had some Republicans that first cheered what Biden did.

So it's going to be interesting to see what happens now that he reversed course on this. Xavier. The Republicans really weren't sharing with Joe Biden. All they were saying, oh, we got you. We got you to rope you into something that we've done. We saw Ted Cruz and other foolish Republicans take their butts down to the border and for photo ops and act like clowns at the border. And they were able to draw Joe Biden into that discussion. And Joe Biden has to be careful. When Republicans try to use optics to rope him in into these cultural issues, he has to stick to the plan, stick to the script. Yes, you want to unite America. Yes, you want to be able to get the Biden Republicans, as it were, but you have to be able

to stick with what's working with you. Bending your will to people who don't care about your policy and want to oppose it at every juncture should not be bowed down to. All right, then again, that was just in our here. Let's go to Utah. We don't often say that on this show, but a group of Utah lawmakers are demanding that the Salt Lake Tribune immediately remove a cartoon depicting black congressman Burgess Owens, Republican, as a member of the KKK. Senators Mike Lee and Mitt Romney are among five members of Congress and issued a joint statement calling the cartoon repugnant. The cartoon, which is satire, depicts Owens next to a member of the KKK. Owens has been outspoken about migrants crossing the border. The comic shows how the KKK were just as fearful of blacks ruining their neighborhoods.

Burgess, the tweets back and forth. If y'all have the tweets, go ahead and show them the back and forth. And the cartoonist, he said, hell no, this is it here. Burgess Owens, Trib and Pat Bagley, compare me to the KKK, the radical hate group that terrorized Guys, go back, please. I need to read the tweet. Thank you. That terrorized me and my youth because I am one of many sounding the alarm

of the trauma being faced by women and children crossing the border. This is pathetic. Well, badly responded. Y'all got it? Oh, come on, guys. Y'all were supposed to have that. All right. Let me let me read that. I love Bagley's response. Let's see here. Let me pull this up. Yeah, we should we should have had all the string of tweets. I was cracking up laughing because, man, they're really upset. Let's see here. Bagley. Yeah. You know, he is white, but he clearly did not care what Burgess

Owens had to say about the tweets. Let me pull it up here. He called it woke racism. That's what Burgess Owens actually called it. And Bagley did say that, like, look, he doesn't have any understanding about the issue of dealing with racism. But he definitely said that when you have someone who's using the language of Burgess Owens, they deserve to be called out. And so you sit here and you look at this, this anger, if you will, Teresa, this. Oh, they're so upset at him. And what and what Bagley was saying is this is what Burgess Owens is saying today. This is what the KKK was saying years back. That's what he was saying.

So is Burgess right to be all offended? Or should he check himself for the kind of crap that he says? No, he should absolutely feel offended because he's absolutely right in the cartoon that he displayed, but it's unfortunately, it's the reality of today. And so the reason why, you know, some of the forums and people are starting to get upset is because they're like, you know, this is true, but you don't have to put it in living color.

And so it's so unfortunate, you know're like, you know, this is true, but you don't have to put it in living color. And so it's so unfortunate, you know, that, you know, the stuff that, you know, we verbalize. But when you start seeing it in print and you start seeing it in cartoons, it's it's it's reality. It's an unfortunate reality that we're dealing with today. Xavier, this is funny. Bagley tweeted the Utah GOP stands with owens hateful lies read his own words and decide for yourselves if owens is echoing past white supremacist rhetoric in fact his response to what of one of uh the other uh tweets uh from burgess owens he said is not defamation. Listen, if you tap

dance and people hear the sound, I mean, you can't get mad if people tell you what it sounds like. So, Burgess Owens really has said some of the most crazy, nonsensical stuff since he's been in Congress. Of course, I

still can't forget when Congressman Hakeem Jeffries just his ass uh in their first meeting is that michael oh okay yeah well you know uh roland burgess owens now he's a former football player i don't know if burgess owens has chronic traumatic encephalopathy, CTE, but I would not be surprised if he does. This the same brother, and I use that term loosely, who testified at the reparations hearing against reparations for black people. This is Burgess Owens. So you, yeah, the words fit. Okay.

And this is the same language. This is the same language that the KKK used as well. And when you study the history of the KKK, the KKK was also KKK was anti-immigrant, but they were also anti-white immigrant Germans and Italians and things like this. They were against they were against them as well. So research, research Burgess Owens, because a lot of a lot of people in Utah love him and they love this type of black person. But Burgess Owens does not want to confront white supremacy and racism. See, this is what's interesting. He doesn't want to confront white supremacy and racism. And when you have somebody who speaks out against reparations at the reparations conference and they're black, you have to ask them what's wrong with this Negro. I can't answer it for you. I can't answer it for you. All right,

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Black TV does matter, dang it. Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your boy, Jacob Lattimore, and you're now watching Roland Martin right now. Yee! All right, folks, let's go to our Education Matters segment. In Aledo, Texas, parents of two black students who were targeted in a racist social media group are demanding transparency from the school district. Johnson and Tamara Lawrence told school administrators their sons showed them a screenshot from a group called Slave Trade that appeared to be auctioning their sons. The parents reported the screenshot to the principal and other administrators asking

them to be transparent and for the district to provide a detailed statement on what took place. Aledo ISD administrators only put out a vague statement about the incident after it became public. Quote, racial harassment and cyberbullying had occurred and assigned disciplinary consequences. That's it. Since being called out by the parents and members of the community, Aledo Independent School District released an additional statement, this time saying, there is no room for racism or hatred in the Aledo ISD, period. Using inappropriate, offensive and racially charged language and conduct is completely unacceptable and is prohibited by district policy.

More than two weeks ago, the district learned of an incident that involved students from the Daniel Ninth Grade campus bullying and harassing other students based on their race and launched an immediate and thorough investigation that involved law enforcement. We made a formal determination that racial harassment and cyber bullying had occurred and assigned disciplinary consequences in accordance with our policy and the student code of conduct. This incident has caused tremendous pain for the victims, their families, and other students of color and their families, and for that we are deeply saddened. After being notified of the incident, the Lido ISD immediately engaged in conversations and communication with students and the student group that was involved, as well as their parents, and made it clear that statements and conduct that targets a student because of his or her race is not only prohibited, but also has a profound impact on the victims.

We also shared this message with staff and parents at the campus. The legal ISD will continue to take action to ensure students, staff, and parents in our community understand the negative impact of racism and other forms of harassment on victims, as well as the consequences of these actions at school through district-led educational opportunities. We live in a community that comes together in support of its children and families, especially in difficult times, and we want our students of color to understand that they are loved and supported in Aledo ISD. We ask that our parents and community continue to have important conversations

with their children at home about racism and other forms of harassment as we all work together as a community to support our Bearcats. Well, Teresa, the parents now want the district to provide racial and cultural awareness training and to come up with a policy that punishes racist behavior more harshly. I got a feeling, Teresa, that they called somebody like you to do crisis intervention after that sorry-ass first statement they dropped? It seemed like that had to be an assistant inside the office when the incident first leaked. And then, you know, once that went out, somebody picked up the phone and said, listen, this is unacceptable. This is the statement.

And actually, whoever wrote that statement, that is the statement that every school district, especially going through not just cyberbullying, but racial discriminatory comments that affect these kids while they're in school, while they're young, because as they grow older, they'll start to think that it's acceptable. And so it's not. And I think, like I said, the statement is spot on spot on. And the parents motive in order to make sure that there is some policy changes inside is probably the most important change that can come to that school district. And ultimately finding, you know, I think when they said they were doing inside that statement, they were having those communications of like where it started and essentially trying to find solutions. That's part of it. So no one, it seems like got expelled, but it looks like head on that they are facing it. And I think that was just a great start. Sounds to me, Xavier, like somebody was thinking, we're going to get our ass sued. Hey, so we better do a new rule statement you basically how you've handled this situation if you approach it with we want to be able to

protect our butts but on the back end of that you have serious steps that could be taken to sue you then you take the actions necessary why wait till things come public for you to do the right thing? We continue to see this over and over and over and over again with issues involving our people, where when it's quiet, no one wants to do the right thing. But when it gets out in the open, you're going to get sued. You're going to be put in a situation where you're going to face some sort of embarrassment. You go from a couple of lines to a couple of books of explaining the right thing to do. It's disgusting. It needs to be able to change in a state like Texas.

Specifically, it needs to be gone. Bottom line is, again, somebody got lit up and they were like, we better go ahead and put out a new statement. So, yeah, smart move. All right, folks, let's go to Pennsylvania. The Department of Education has introduced a plan that would shut. I'm sorry, Mike. Go ahead. Go ahead. All right. Well, no, you don't comment on everything. Well, you know, Parker, go ahead. Parker County NAACP President Eddie Burnett spoke out on this. So maybe maybe that was the impetus right there. But very quickly, Roland, one, I don't know how many of these of the white students' parents were or relatives who were at the insurrection January 6th at the U.S. Capitol building. I'm not sure. But if we find out the actual numbers, I wouldn't be surprised.

Now, 2018, 2019, there were 413 graduates from this from the Daniel 9th grade campus, 413 graduates, seven were African American, 346 were white, and 45 were Hispanic. I encourage everybody to look at the study from the Southern Poverty Law Center called Teaching Hard History of American Slavery. Teaching Hard History of American Slavery, I use it. And it can be used in schools. And it documents, one, how the history of slavery is incorrectly taught in schools all across the country. Two, it makes very good recommendations on how to more correctly teach that history, okay? Because I can only imagine what they teach about history at this school here and what they teach about slavery when only seven students in the graduating class were African-American. So yeah, brother,

this is a real problem. And you're dealing with Texas also. You done? Oh, I'm done. I'm just checking. I know you had a little bit more to say. So just, just check. I don't know. I'm just checking. I'm done. Oh, you'll leave right there?

Okay. All right. All right. Let's go to Pennsylvania. Yeah. All right. Well, the Pennsylvania Department of Education has introduced a plan that will shut down what it considers to be failing charter schools.

The biggest issue of the proposal is the changes made in the funding. The Department of Education believes it is overpaying for cyber charter schools in Pennsylvania. But the Pennsylvania Coalition of Public Charter Schools says that's not true. Lenny McAllister is director for the Western Pennsylvania for Commonwealth Foundation. Jones is right now. So let's just talk about talk about this. Lenny is always the back and forth. Last week, we talked about New York, where they didn't want to authorize more charters in the city of New York and the whole back and forth. And now you have in Pennsylvania.

So what's their deal now saying, oh, we're paying too much? What's the deal in Pennsylvania? Well, what's going on, Roland, is, and I've been dealing with this since I've come on board as CEO of the Pennsylvania Coalition of Public Charter Schools, is you constantly have this fight over funding. And although have basically 25 percent of all the funding coming from the state staying at the school district and not following the kid from the school district over to the charter school, and despite the fact that school districts such as Philadelphia have been getting millions upon

millions of dollars since last spring to fund schools that have not been open, where the charter schools and the cyber charter schools have been opened by and large since last spring. And the brick and mortar charts have been open in a hybrid fashion and the charter schools have been open the whole time. You still see this fight between teachers unions and charter schools and schools that are more run by African Americans in the charter sector having to fight against the education establishment for fair funding to ensure that we can serve our kids in a way that's going to best fit them academically and developmentally. Okay, so what are the numbers? What are the numbers?

The numbers are right now what you're looking at is, like I said, on average, one quarter of every dollar stays at the school district for a charter school. Now, you have school districts such as Philadelphia and Pittsburgh where it's basically 35 percent roughly that stays in the school district from state funding that stays at the school district level versus going and following the kid over to the charter school. So whereas you have some school districts that have literally millions upon millions of dollars in their in the reserve balances and you have these charter schools that are on the brink, you end up finding that the school district. Now, what's transpiring with the cyber charters is this. They're saying, well, the cyber charters have these huge reserve funds, much like the school districts. The problem is, Roland, you have 500 school districts in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Each one of those 500 school districts determines the amount of tuition that it costs per student in their public school district. So when it comes to a cyber charter school, which obviously recruits from around the Commonwealth,

it might cost $15,000 in one school district, but it might be $17,000 in a second school district, and it might be $22,000 in a third school district. They want to make that one lump sum the lowest possible number for the cyber charters and yet continue this fuzzy math when it comes to the school districts, even as they, A, continue to have this hybrid model, and some of them are still closed to in-person instruction, and B, the feds are sending in billions of dollars for school education for school districts since March of 2020. So do you simply see this as an effort by the state to try to just cut funding? Is that what's going on? This is just another round of that. This is something that's been going on under this governor since January of 2015. He has done this with tax

credit scholarships for kids that are going to Catholic and private schools. He has done this in the charter community. He is currently proposing $230 million worth of cuts, including $100 million for special education for kids in brick and mortar and cyber charter schools, including $50 million in special education cuts in Philadelphia alone, where one third of all public school students are charter school students. And as we well know, that's a minority majority school district. So it's going to disproportionately hurt African-American kids that are already on IEPs or other forms of special education plans. This is just unacceptable, especially during a pandemic where we're all suffering and trying to get back on track. It never is.

It amazes me that we have this constant battle back and forth, Teresa, in these states over this, over this. And I say this all the time. Like, literally, there are three million children in America who are in charter schools, making up less than five percent of all students. And you have this this attitude that the five percent are causing 95 percent of the problems. It's just dumb to me. And my position has always been the same, Teresa. That is. And I was in Philadelphia. We had a school choice is the black choice town hall there uh year before last folks y'all can go to our youtube channel and watch it uh but the thing for me is just real simple what is best for children to educate our kids period yeah and that's been the conversation

here in philadelphia listen i live here i grew up here and so the conversation here in Philadelphia. Listen, I live here. I grew up here. And so the conversations here, it has always been education. I think every elected official that has wanted to run for public office, either city council or mayor, has always talked about the one point that will get them elected, education. But we never really talk about the state problem. And McAllister really just laid it out. There is a horrible funding formula that has happened on the state level where the criteria of what a failing charter school is has really been sort of at the focal point of some of these discussions. I know I actually had two clients a few years ago who black black owned charter schools who, you know, literally wanted to educate their children, add culture, add history, add a lot of arts. And, you know, the criteria that some of these charter schools and the explanation of some of some of them, it just really didn't add up. And so there was a lot of battles. There was a lot of advocacy.

And again, at the end of the day, these children were suffering. So every time the school district of Philadelphia, in particular, because I'm not sure what's going on in Pittsburgh, but in particular, the school district of Philadelphia would put a stamp on a failing school. That then child that's in a charter school will go to another school. Hopefully there's one next door, a public school that's next door. But otherwise they will go 15, 20 miles down. And then hopefully they will be in a lottery system to get in. So ultimately this child suffers and then they're hopefully a part of a lottery system that some of them just don't even get in. So, you know, when we talk about, you know, where some of our kids are going, you know,

that's why, oh, workforce development apprenticeship programs are sometimes at the, you know, at the highest peak. Oh, let's have a job fair. No, let's educate our kids. Because we educate our kids, we can then start to tell them, hey, gun violence can reduce. Hey, you do have other options. The hood is not your only option, right? But if they're not in the institution that is giving them the development skills, then they'll feel like the same lyrics that's coming through some of these rap lyrics today will be their only option. And then some of my, you know, my young girls, and I have to say

this before I let you go, but some of my young girls who were like 13 or 14 was like, you know, I was like, what do you aspire to do? And they didn't want to say it out loud, but they put it on paper and they said, I want to be a dancer. And I'm like, okay, ballet. And these girls was literally saying stripper. And I'm just like, this is just, this is the culture. And it's so unfortunate. It breaks my heart because when we talk about the next generation of leadership, we have to talk about the next generation of education. And it really starts with making sure that there's adequate funding across the board. And Teresa's right, Roland. You can't sit there and say that you're going after these charter schools because they're failing academically and then continue to dump more money into the Philadelphia

school district with a lot of failing schools or the Erie school district or Harrisburg school district or the Pittsburgh school district. And we see it across the country where the solution for failing district schools is they need more money. The solution for charter schools that are taking on kids that are already one to three years behind academically is, well, if they don't catch them up in a couple of years, we got to shut them down. And disproportionately, you find more black teachers and more black administrators in charter schools. In Pennsylvania, less than 6% of all teachers in school districts are black. As a matter of fact, there are some school districts that haven't had a black teacher in almost a decade. In charter schools, that number is 20%, with many schools,

including many of the schools that Teresa's talking about in Philadelphia, that are led by black leaders that are trying to uniquely educate our kids and close that gap so that they can be competitive in the workforce for decades to come. We can't allow people to choke off this lane of school choice and think that we're going to bring our communities to where we want them to be. Xavier? Number one, we have to make sure that charter school is not a hustle for those that start those schools, number one. Number two, we have to make sure that the education of our children is priority number one. And putting charter schools in competition with public schools when they don't even have the same objectives is ridiculous.

And we have to be in the business of educating our kids. We have a we have a technology divide. We have old books and not enough resources for teachers. We should be putting, instead of just dumping money and saying, hey, you solve it, where are the actual problems to make sure we are satisfying the, not just the minimum standards of

educating our kids, but truly making them leaders in the next generation. And I agree with that. But the goals are the same, though. First of all, hold on, with that. But the goals are the same, though. First of all, hold on, Lenny, but the goals are the same. The goal is very simple. I don't, this is very simple. Whether you're in a public traditional school, magnet school, charter school, parochial school,

online school, private school, the goal is the same, is to educate the children. Now, the question is, who's effective? Who actually gets it done? How do you get it done? The problem is that we have had this attitude, there's only one delivery system in this country. That to me is the problem. Again, I go back to the decisions being made in Pennsylvania right now. The question is, are they good for the parent and the student? Not the district, the parent and the student. Lenny, go ahead. I mean, and that's the whole point there, Roland. I mean, we can't go into this assuming that charter schools are being created to be a hustle, because if you want to see a hustle, go to how the education sector

has been unionized for the last 50 to 70 years. And people forget, yes, we still need to fix traditional school districts. But again, it's not called the Catholic school-to-prison pipeline. It's not called the private school-to-prison pipeline or the charter school-to-prison pipeline. That school-to-pr prison pipeline was built in the 1980s in traditional public schools, traditionally by unionized workforces that oftentimes did not look like our communities, that brought police forces in there and took cafeteria fights and made them misdemeanors over the course of the 80s and the 90s. The charter school laws that came into effect in the mid to late 90s in places such as Pennsylvania, and I was down in North Carolina with leaders down there

and black charter leaders down there just last week, was for the reason of trying to circumvent some of the negative things that were going on in traditional school districts to give more of our community members an opportunity to close the gaps. People forget about charter schools. We're taking on, in some instances, three and four generations of academic failure by the school districts in those communities and trying to catch those kids up so that the family doesn't repeat the poverty that's been in the school district for quite some time.

For example, the public school code in Pennsylvania was written in 1949. Think about where we were as a people in 1949. We were still dealing with segregation in Pennsylvania. Levittown, the legacy of Levittown was being entrenched in 1949. The 1949 public school code was still written with ink of red light. So when you're talking about taking that on, and one side's trying to triple down on that economically and otherwise, and there's another segment trying to say, let's diversify the education delivery system so that kids and families can win,

and whatever system works best for them, we have to have self-determination within education and empower the kids and the families. If we don't, we're going to always be behind the curve. And if we can't catch up now, we may never catch up. How do we best incentivize that? I want to ask him a quick question. How do we best incentivize? I'm sorry about that, Roland. How do we best incentivize them positively, not just with dollars, but be able to. Oh, hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. What's that? Was that you said, how do we best incentivize who? Who's going to incentivize? Charter charter schools for beating certain benchmarks and making sure that easy, easy, you easy, you and you incentivize them the same way you incentivize traditional public schools. You get to keep you get to stay open. I mean, when you're doing

your job, I mean, that's the whole point. See, if you're doing your job on the charter school, let's be real clear, depending on what state you're in. If you have if you are a charter school, you have X number of years to hit certain benchmarks or you get shut down. You've got traditional public schools that ain't hit the benchmarks for 10, 15 years and don't get shut down. So the reality is in most states, you have a much more rigorous review process of charter schools than you do traditional schools. So to me, the incentive is you get to stay open if you hit your numbers. Go ahead. Yeah, I'm from Chicago where we had the last mayor get in trouble here because he was shutting down public schools. And it was all over the place in terms of how it impacted him politically.

And so a little bit different situation, how it is in the state of Illinois. But beyond just staying open, how do we be increasing more dollars to maybe help them? And how did they? No, no, no, no. OK, hold up. OK, let's deal with facts. In Chicago, they had 100000 fewer students in the Chicago public school than the previous decade.

Look, I read I ran the Chicago public schools in the previous decade. Look, I ran the Chicago Defender, and this was the hardest point for people in Chicago to understand. If there's a school that was built to house 1,000 kids, and there are now 250 and 300 kids in that school. The upkeep of a building is the same. You can't say, well, I'm going to upkeep just one third of the building. I got to upkeep the whole building. The problem in Chicago was that you had one, a mayor and an appointed school board that was not communicating enough. You have a teacher's union that was very obstinate in terms of this is what we want. What you didn't have people saying, how do we reimagine education in Chicago for the 21st century and stopped trying to educate like it was the 20th century.

When I ran the Chicago Defender, I'm telling you, what happened with me and the Defender, to me, applied to the school district there in Chicago. We had a building where we were only using 20% of the building. 20%. The people were like, I said, y'all, this is a dump. The AC wasn't working in the summer and it was cold as hell in the winter. So I said, we got to go.

All these black folks start protesting. No, y'all can't move. Y'all can't move. No, y'all can't move. Y'all can't move. No, we got to save the building. I said, hey, what do y'all want? Do y'all want to save the building or save the paper? Because the building, it would have cost us $7 million to rehab the building. The whole damn company with four newspapers wasn't worth $7 million.

So when we have this discussion with education, and look, I grew up in Clinton Park in Houston. Right now, there's this huge empty field where my elementary school used to be. Why? Because folk like me moved. You don't have enough families there with children. So does it make sense economically to have a Clinton Park Elementary School where you're servicing less than 200 students. And then across the freeway, you have Pleasantville Elementary School. Does it make sense to move the kids from Clinton Park to Pleasantville?

Yes. The battle in Chicago, they don't want to do that. And so you don't have folk who are being real about what's actually happening in education. They still try. Well, when I went to school, well, guess what? That world has gone. It ain't the same. Yeah, I mean, Roland, I think you make a lot of really strong and valid points. And I think it's extremely important to be able to make sure that those schools that are really doing well, that our charter schools are getting all the support they need to be able to continue to create more opportunities and to better educate our kids. And I think that's the most important part. And public schools learn from that to be

able to adopt better ways to educate our children. And that's what it's supposed to be. I just want us to just, again, we have to rethink education. I was one of the advisors of XQ Schools America, Michael, and they were talking about how we reimagine high school. We've got to do that because it's not the same. There are children born today. I mean, I'm sitting right here broadcasting from a home studio, okay, with an HD camera, a portable teleprompter, laptop, a LiveView LU800 streaming unit, an ATM mini pro, seven lights here, three iPads, two iPhones, an Android phone. There are kids today being born into this. This is what their experience is at one, two, three and four.

It ain't a big chief as legal big, big chief pad with a number two damn pencil. Right. Right. Is do we still have Lenny? I'm here. Yeah, he's there. Go ahead. The question I have, the question. Well, I wasn't sure. Yeah, he's there. Go ahead. current structure of funding for district schools and charter schools and how this creates a competition. And we've seen that here in Detroit. I live here in Detroit, lived here all my life. And we've seen that competition here in Detroit. We've seen about half, about 100 Detroit public schools shut down over the past few years, past 10 years or something like that. How do you change that funding structure? OK, what do you think the solution to all this is?

And how do you change that funding structure in that competition over the funding? Well, one of the things that we proposed in our legislative agenda at the beginning of the year, the coalition was to have the funding go straight from the state to the charter school, because as long as the money see the money goes to the student and the family. It's allocated per student. So the state says, okay, we're going to give, you know, per student in this district is $10,000. The $10,000 for that student goes into the district.

And if that kid's not at the district and is at a charter school, then the district gets to deduce up to 25 exemptions. The law in 97 was only seven. Now it's up to 25. 25 exceptions to keep the money so it doesn't follow the child over to the charter school. Well, if the district's still acting like a pass-through, they get to quote-unquote wrongly say it's their money. It's not their money. It's the students' money that's

allocated by the state for their public education. If you skip the middleman and you let that money go straight to the charter school, you say, look, the kid's not in your district anyway. And by the way, the kid hasn't gone to your schools in five years. Why should you continue to see the money go through your district when this kid left the district in second grade because they were not comfortable and the family wasn't comfortable in kindergarten and first grade. The kid's now in seventh grade. Why are you seeing this allotment of money every year? And by the way, we're counting on you to cut the check on time. We're seeing districts and charter schools

fighting in Commonwealth Court, which again is taxpayer money being wasted because the charter school has to sue the school district under Commonwealth law to get their money, which comes delayed, which makes charter schools that are on the brink already that much more vulnerable economically. If you take the financial component out of it and then from there say, okay, district, okay, charter, the whole essence of this law was innovation to share amongst each other so that schools over here can catch kids up that are behind and districts over here can get to the work they're supposed to get to. Everybody can win. Look, there are going to still be some school districts that will fit kids and it should, but there are some charter

schools that will fit kids better and they need to be available because not every kid in our community is going to be able to be eligible for a tax credit scholarship. They're not going to win that scholarship to that fancy prep school. The only way that every American is guaranteed school choice is with public charter schools within public education. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you, McAllister. I still appreciate it, man. Thank you. All right. Thank you, McAllister. I still appreciate it, man. Thank you so very much. God bless you all. Thanks for having me, Roland. I appreciate it. And that's our school choice is a black choice. Education matters segment, of course, a school choice is a black choice initiative.

I found it by my wife and I, because both of us are art and supporters of education. Doesn't matter, frankly, the platform. We want to ensure that our kids get educated. And so we want to make sure that African-Americans are not only participating in charter schools, but we are running charter schools. We're owning charter schools. We are in control of the curriculum. We're in control of the dollars, the control of everything. And so that's why that is critically important. All right, folks, let's talk about the new show on Netflix. In Living Color Alums, David Allen Greer and Jamie Foxx are back together on the small screen. They play a father-son duo in the Netflix comedy Dad Stop Embarrassing Me. It is inspired by the real-life relationship between Jamie Foxx and his daughter, Corinne, who also serves as executive producer.

I caught up with David Allen Greer to talk about, yeah, our Gumbo Wars and the new show. This month. Now, first of all, brother, you got to watch your tone. They didn't tell me that I was going to have to talk to you. They didn't tell me I was going to be talking to Moses.

Oh! Oh! Let's be friends, because you know I'd be doing Gumbo Wars. Let's be friends because you know I'd be going to a gumbo. Let's not even go there. Yeah, we don't... You don't want

to get embarrassed about the gumbo. Don't let me hurt your feelings. I mean... This is footage of you when you went to Dookie Chase. Okay? Mama Chase tried to tail your behind, but you were talking so much, you didn't hear her. Oprah, it

belongs in the gumbo, sir. No, it don't, and it's my gumbo. Did you have this debate with Jamie on the show? Not yet. That's next. Y'all got to integrate that in the show, because I'm going to be with Jamie andall got to integrate that in the show.

Because I'm going to be with Jamie and say, no Oprah in the gumbo. You know, actually, if you can put it in there, it doesn't have to be in there, okay? How you doing, man? Man, I'm all good, all good. So I got to ask you this here. If Jennifer Lewis is Hollywood's black mama, are you trying to become Hollywood's black daddy? Yes, I am. Hollywood's silver fox. I guess, man.

To be serious, though, when I first grew this beard, the first thing is I wanted to be a full beard. You know what I mean? Some of these brothers grow sideburns, a goatee, and there's a whole desert right up in here on the chair. Yeah. It grew in full, but I had no idea it would be this white. I didn't know what color it was going to be. And it looks good.

I mean, you know, but this is all COVID right here. Last time I shaved was a year ago. Wow. Well, see, I'm not a fan of a full... My dad sort of... He can't really grow his out, but he wants... I'm like, nah, bro. I got to keep my trim. I got to...

You know, I can't. You and James Harden, y'all can have that. Hey, man, James Harden is the king of the beard. His beard is amazing. But I will tell you this. You need king of the beard. His beard is amazing. But I will tell you this. You need to wash the beard because you do catch everything.

Flies, food. So you got to wash the beard. You must. So let me ask you with the show. Did you bring your own stuff into it, your own family history? It's like, if I'm going to sit here and play the daddy, I'm going to play a black daddy, an old school black daddy. Well, I mean, you know, actually, this character is based on Jamie's life

and his relationship to his stepdad. Mm-hmm. Neat. He did spend time in jail. He'd never been to jail, did not lead a criminal life, but they gave him an extra long sentence as a first-time offender. So there's all that element.

And there's the awkwardness of when you have a parent come back into your life as an adult then where is that relationship at are you friends i don't need a daddy now because i'm grown but you need a father so it's trying to find that ground that's not really my story but the stuff that i brought in from my life is my day-to-day life with my 13-year-old, which, you know, I don't know how many kids you got. You know, girls at 13, that's different. They need their bodies. They just go to different places.

Here's the deal. I don't have any biological children, but my wife and I have raised six of my nieces, and I'm talking about first when they were a year and a half, doc, then going, so like different, three different sets, and now we're dealing with my twin nieces who are 17 you got help bro no i don't need hold up i don't need help all i know is i told them

y'all don't want me to turn into my daddy y'all make uncle ro-ro. Y'all don't want Poppy showing up. Listen, I tell you. Because it's in me. It's in here. They don't know that. I say, in our house, I say, don't make me revert. You know, I'm from Detroit. And they're like, oh, daddy. You don't know nothing about 12th Street, Linwood.

Don't make me revert. I don't want to go show you that side. Right. He's 13. She talks to me. It's so fast. It's like talking to a gerbil on speed. I'm just looking at her.

I'm blinking my eyes. I'm trying to keep up. I don't know what she's saying. I'm agreeing to stuff I don't understand. It's a mess, man. It is a mess. Well, look, man, I'm agreeing to stuff I don't understand. It's a mess, man. It is a mess. Well, look, man, I'll tell you, I identify

with it because, again, for me, taking in nieces, raising them, and folk, you know, tripping, and you're right. I'm like, hey, I said, y'all couldn't have survived in the house I grew up in.

Oh, no. It's different. It's different, man. You got weapons. I never gave my daughter. I never raised my hand to my daughter. But that's the way I was raised. Everybody got weapons when I was a kid. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't even know who in second place in my family. I'm so far ahead. I'm so far ahead. You know, and I tell my daddy, I say, you know, you really should have done all that because I was really practicing for what I'm doing right now. Yes. So I was talking.

So you whooped me because I was talking too much. But I was practicing, you know, and I, you know, living in my house rent free. So I'm just saying, I think you owe me an apology for all of the ass-whippings I had to take. I have a friend. His name is Leon. He's got nine brothers and sisters. And Leon, when he grew up,

he had glasses. He was intellectual. So whenever he got in trouble, he would put his glasses on and say, Daddy, let me explain. And his father had to build up and say, Why you always got to be talking and explaining? So why can't you take your ass, woman, and silently, like your brother and sister?

He was just nowhere. He said, let me just extrapolate what had happened, Daddy. In the main room. That's how I was, man. My mother told me millions of times, your mouth is going to get you in trouble. I was like, no, my mouth is going to give me pain. And Mama liked the fact that your mouth has gotten you pain.

It did. Same with my mama and daddy. Man, 54 years in June, they're like, my dad told me, son, keep talking. I said, yeah, you ain't tell me that when I was in school. Now you're telling me keep talking. David. As parents, it's hard to have that longitudinal vision. You know what I'm saying?

You're just looking at what we see in front of us. But I love being a dad. I love being a black dad and imparting our knowledge to the next generation. Well, that's why I'm really looking forward. I think people will certainly enjoy the show. Always a pleasure, man. We'll definitely uh chat soon all right y'all you can watch dad stop embarrassing me on netflix it is streaming right now y'all had i had way too much fun there with

david allen greer but theresa ain't no way in hell i'm gonna i'm gonna have a beard that long i can't i can't. I can't. Like I told my daddy, this is the longest I'm letting this. I shave every two days. Mine got to be low. This is that Philip Michael Thomas Miami Vice low. It got to be low. Survey out and let the people decide, Roland.

No, people ain't decide the damn thing because they ain't the ones who got to shave. So that ain't happening. So, Xavier, how long have you rocked your beard? I couldn't even grow my beard until about four or five years ago, Roland. I was like David Allen Greer talked about. I had it right here. And in the middle, it was a little bald man. So I'm happy to grow my beard. I grew here and in the middle it was a little bald man. So I'm happy to grow my beard. I grew my beard. I grew my

hair a little bit more when Donald Trump came into office as a celebration of my hair and my blackness. So I'm happy to have my beard. Come on, grow a little bit. A couple more whiskers there, Roland. Come with us. Nah, that ain't gonna happen. First of all, but do you dye

your beard? Is your beard actually that black my beard is perfect and black rolling y'all notice you michael you notice he didn't answer the michael you notice he didn't answer the question uh no right are we winning your talk rolling it's all natural and it is beautiful it is black and it is lovely. Wash your hands. Right. Xavier, how old are you? I'm 45. Xavier, how old are you?

45. Your ass lying. You know damn well you're dying that beard. I don't know who you think you're fooling. You and Anthony Anderson both dying your beard. Michael Garhead. Well, thanks for that interview and shout out to felt my fellow detraitor uh david allen greer uh now to me he looked like the black grizzly adams with that with that beard because i remember david allen greer from boomerang so

he's a long way from boomerang but uh thanks for that interview and he mentioned 12th street so 12th street is also known as Rosa Parks Boulevard here in Detroit. And 12th and Claremont is where the 1967 Detroit riots began, began July 23rd, 1967. So 12th Street is very historic in the history of Detroit. What you trying to do? Trying to get a travel segment?

No, I'm serious. I live in Detroit. I got it, but you're trying to give a whole travel segment. He said, you don't know nothing about 12th Street and Linwood. 12th Street is very historic. That's where the

1967 rebellion began. 12th and Claremont. Michael's trying to be an atlas and everything alright y'all I appreciate it Brotherhood, scholarship, and service rolling so that's what we do you know doggone well

don't nobody ever talk about scholarship bring up sigmas nobody don't let me hurt your feelings. I'm feeling on this Friday. I got to go. Hey, y'all. Do not forget if y'all want to support what we do here at Roland Martin Unfiltered, y'all

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We're always advancing this, holding all these companies accountable to make sure they're spending their dollars with us. That's critically important because, again, we should be getting our fair share in all of these companies when it comes to the dollars. That's how we're able to build, be able to grow. We've got some exciting things coming up right here. Roller Mark unfiltered. Also, real quick here, folks. Somebody had hit me. They saw one of the shows here and they asked me just some of the books. Yesterday we had Ray Winbush on. This was a Ray Winbush's book. Should America pay slavery and the ragingate about reparations, the raging

debate on reparations by Raymond A. Winbush. And so that's this book right here. Of course, we're going to have a book author interview on Monday. Let me see here. Gerald Horn has this great book here called Jazz and Justice, Racism and the Political Economy of the Music. That is this book right here by Gerald Horn. Of course, you can go to my YouTube channel, watch my interview with Gerald Horn.

We also have, actually, there are two other books by Gerald. Like I said, y'all can go check that interview out. I love this one here, The Rise and Fall of the Associated Negro Press, Claude Barnett's Pan-African News and the Jim Crow Paradox. This is really, really a great book that y'all can actually check out right here by Gerald Horn. And the last one from Horn. I got a bunch of his books here. The last one from Horn, White Supremacy Confronted, U.S. Imperialism and Anti-Communism Versus the Liberation of Southern Africa from Rhodes to Mandela. That's this book right here.

Book on white supremacy by Gerald Horn. And the last book from my boy, he was a late founder of, first of all, he was a founder of NABJ, National Association of Black Journalists. An awesome, awesome guy. And let's see here. he passed away before the book was finished his daughter finished the book her name is tamra pain i'm talking about less pain uh the book is called the dead are arising the life of malcolm x and that's what this book here is uh winner of the national book award uh it's uh man the phenomenal book and so i can't wait

to finish it i've already started reading it But right here, again, Les' book Award winning book on Malcolm X The Dead or Arising The Life of Malcolm X Trust me, some great original reporting You don't want to miss that Alright folks, that's it

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