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Starting point is 00:02:02 Get your tickets today, AXS.com. Get your tickets today AXS.com. Today is Monday, June 23rd, 2025. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network. Don Trump has done a number of anti black things. Yet why are black conservatives? Maga blacks? Why they so quiet saying literally nothing about these actions. We'll talk to conservative radio host Shelly Winter by what's going on while target remains on the boycott list. The National Baptist Convention. They are cashing in a boycott list, the National Baptist Convention, they are cashing in a $300,000 check from the retail along with three other Baptist groups.

Starting point is 00:02:51 I will break down to you why what they're doing is shameful and despicable. Plus, one of a recap of the Virginia Democrats Commonwealth Gala, which took place on Saturday. Lots for us to unpack. It's time to bring the funk on Roller Mark Unfilcher on the Black Sun Network. Let's go. Whatever it is, he's got the school, the fact, the fine. And when it breaks,

Starting point is 00:03:15 he's right on time and it's rolling best believe he's knowing putting it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rollin' Yeah, yeah It's Uncle Ro Ro, y'all Yeah, yeah It's Rollin' Martin, yeah Yeah, yeah

Starting point is 00:03:38 Rollin' with Rollin' now Yeah, yeah He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best You know he's fresh, he's real, the best you know, he's rolling Martez now. Martez. Well, you've got, you know, your black conservatives are always saying about other black folks that, oh, you're still on the plantation. It's always the plantation language they use.

Starting point is 00:04:11 And I'm like, okay, great. So if you're going to support a Republican, support a conservative, that's fine. But are you going to also say anything where they are anti-black with their agenda? The reality is that Donald Trump's agenda thus far has been extremely anti-black with their agenda. The reality is that Donald Trump's agenda thus far has been extremely anti-black with a number of initiatives that he has announced. I'm not talking just about his attacks on DEI. I'm talking about very clearly his variety

Starting point is 00:04:36 of anti-black positions that he has taken. Shelley Winter, conservative radio talk show host in Atlanta. Well, he supported Donald Trump. He participated in, it was a barbershop conversation, I think host in Atlanta. Well, he supported Donald Trump. He participated in, it was a barbershop conversation, I think, in Atlanta. He joins us right now. Shelley, glad to have you here. First question, last week,

Starting point is 00:04:53 Juneteenth, of course, took place last week. And if I recall correctly, well, we actually see it, Donald Trump, in his so-called platinum plan, the first time, he actually touted making Juneteenth a federal holiday. Yet this Juneteenth, he decided, his White House decided to pretty much ignore Juneteenth. Carolyn Levitt was pretty dismissive about it. We're gonna have, if we have that ready, go ahead and play it.

Starting point is 00:05:24 One more on Juneteenth. Does the president plan to commemorate the holiday today so dismissive about it. We're going to have that ready. Go ahead and play it. Just one more on Juneteenth. Does the president plan to commemorate the holiday today or make any comment on it? I'm not tracking his signature on a proclamation today. I know this is a federal holiday. I want to thank all of you for showing up to work. We are certainly here. We're working 24-7 right now.

Starting point is 00:05:38 Nikki, go ahead. Actually, that was my question. Will he plan to mark Juneteenth in any way, either today or with an event later on, maybe next week? Sure, I just answered that question for you. Go ahead. Thank you very much, Caroline. OK, all right then. And then, of course, Trump later released a post on Truth

Starting point is 00:05:55 Social saying that too many non-working holidays in America. It's costing our country billions of dollars to keep all these businesses closed, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And of course, he dropped that on Juneteenth So Shelly here's the question was he lying before or is this the real now because before in his so-called platinum plan He was talking about oh, let's make Juneteenth a national holiday. What happened? I

Starting point is 00:06:18 Don't think anything happened Roland. I think well first of all, thanks for having me second of all Friday on my show. I opened my show with a very heated rant as to how I disagreed fundamentally, totally opposed what he tweeted out. I even went on to say that this is the kind of thing that frustrates me about him because it's unnecessary conversations that he forces us to have

Starting point is 00:06:43 because these are just dumb things. What I think happened, and I'm not defending it all, what I think happened was I know there's a number of African American conservatives out there on YouTube and in other places. I saw Wesley Hunt, Congressman Wesley Hunt, who I respect and love a lot and agree with on 99.9% of everything, was on Bill Maher this past Friday. And he said it wasn't a holiday that he terribly cared about. So I just think that-

Starting point is 00:07:11 Hold on one second. Wesley Hunt said, it was or wasn't? Wasn't, wasn't, wasn't. It's not the biggest thing in his life. He's not really concerned one way or the other. And let's be honest- So you're saying that a Texas congressman, a black man from Texas.

Starting point is 00:07:30 Yeah, I don't think, I mean, Roland, Roland, that has nothing to do with it. The man has a point with the people. No, no, no, no, no, allow me to finish. No, no, hold on. No, hold on, Shelley, Shelley, Shelley. You asked me a question, can I ask you a question? Shelley, Shelley, one second, one second.

Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm gonna let you finish, but I'm gonna make this point when it speaks to your point. So you're telling me a black man from Texas, who's a member of Congress, is blowing off a holiday that actually was first a state holiday in the same state of Texas. Okay, go ahead. And I have no problems with that.

Starting point is 00:08:01 I have no prob, I would have a debate, I'll have a debate with anybody as to the number of federal holidays we have. Is it too many? Do we need more or whatever? I think that's a different debate to have. My problem with- So when he said that he was gonna make it a federal holiday,

Starting point is 00:08:16 do you think that was BS? No, I think he was honest about it because the platinum plan was brought to him by African-Americans within the, I mean, within his orbit who was on his team. So I think it was legitimate. Everything in a platinum plan was legitimate. He wanted to do them.

Starting point is 00:08:32 And Trump's pragmatist, he's a pragmatist. He doesn't necessarily have a policy bone. He has policies or principles that he stands on, but for the most part, he listens to most people like every other president has. So you actually thought the platinum plan is legitimate? Absolutely it was legitimate. That's interesting because-

Starting point is 00:08:53 Ask Ice Cube if it was legitimate. Actually it wasn't legitimate. But I don't have to ask Ice Cube. How do you know what was- Here's why, here's why. How do you call something illegitimate that never got to the table? Well, Shirley, here's why.

Starting point is 00:09:04 Because first of all, he had the platinum plan initially when he ran for reelection and he lost. Then he issued another one when he ran again. And this is what the second one says. Grow minority-owned businesses with additional tax cuts to stimulate hiring and investment, encouraging onshore. That's exactly, hold on. Shelley, I'm not done reading. World minority-owned businesses with additional tax cuts to stimulate hiring and investment, encouraging honest... One second, one second.

Starting point is 00:09:27 Shelly, Shelly, I'm not done reading. Allow me to finish reading it. I'll let you respond. Hold on. Shelly, Shelly. I'll respond to them one by one. No, Shelly, I'm gonna read them. I'm gonna read the three or four,

Starting point is 00:09:41 then let you respond. Oh, read one by one. No, no, no, Shelly, Shelly to every one. Shelley, Shelley, Shelley, Shelley. You don't tell me how to host my show, okay? But I'm saying, but you're telling me how to answer a question. Shelley, Shelley. I'm reading what specific type of one thing. Why do I do this to myself?

Starting point is 00:09:54 If you just, first of all, Literally, why do I do this to myself? Shelley, if you just chill, let me finish the damn thing, you can answer. This is what he said. He said, under jobs, jobs, jobs, seek infrastructure funding that will lead to widespread growth in the annual $500 billion

Starting point is 00:10:12 federal contracting opportunities. Grow minority-owned businesses with additional tax cuts to stimulate hiring and investment. And then it says, invest almost $20 billion toward broadband and internet access to create job opportunities. That's what he had in here. Now, his own administration is trying to get rid

Starting point is 00:10:32 of the federal DBE program that actually speaks to the contracting. One, two, they actually with Doge cut the broadband money. So I'm confused. He issued a platinum plan saying I'm gonna do those things. But then he wants to get rid of those programs. Those two seem to be contradicting one another. No, it's not.

Starting point is 00:10:59 No, it's not. No, it's not, sir. You know how? Because I don't and most black business owners don't see themselves as doing business as minorities. They're doing business. So if you look at what Kelly Loeffler's doing at SBA, you will see one that you read

Starting point is 00:11:19 and three that you read being activated right now. Like what? But if you're standing, hold on, let me finish. If you're standing on the sidelines, calling everyone a racist, you have no access to that money. I didn't say racist. Listen to me.

Starting point is 00:11:31 I didn't say racist. Listen to me. Listen to me. I didn't say racist. Listen to me very clearly. Listen to me very clearly, don't cut me off. I'm listening to you clearly, but I didn't say racist. You're cutting me off.

Starting point is 00:11:41 I didn't say you did. I said if anybody is. Shelly, keep going. Because your point was insinuating and implying it. No. I didn't say you did. I said if anybody is. Shelly, keep going. Because your point was insinuating and implying it. No, I didn't. First of all, I don't insinuate. I don't imply. I either say it or I don't. Kelly Loeffler right now, the SBA, Small Business Administration, right now, as we speak, they're having meetings about number one that you read

Starting point is 00:12:02 and number three that you read. Really? They're having meetings about the contracting? Dude, man. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on. Dude, if you want to guess about the contracting, about grants, about grants, also what Biden never cut out was opportunity zones. That's still there. I'm sorry. Hold up. Hold up. First of all, first of all, Shelly, you didn't answer the question. Donald Trump's-

Starting point is 00:12:23 I didn't answer the question. Shelly, Donald Trump's administration has a legal, Shelley, Shelley, Shelley, Shelley, Shelley, chill, Shelley, Shelley, Shelley, when you please, Shelley, first of all, you ain't talking to the girl cause she ain't smart as me. I mean, I feel like it, you don't let me talk. Shelley, let me say it again.

Starting point is 00:12:43 The Donald Trump administration has put forth a filing in a court case, in a court case, where they said they want to completely get rid of the $37 billion DBE program. So, so how in the world, so how can we, Shelly, I'm not done. How in the world can you expand opportunities in the, will they list in the annual 500 billion?

Starting point is 00:13:10 By competing, Rollins. Shelley, excuse me. By competing with everybody else. I'm not done, Shelley. By competing. Shelley, I'm not done. By competing, sir. You're a grown ass man.

Starting point is 00:13:18 Compete for the money. Like everybody else. Shelley, this is very simple. Compete, now let me finish. Shelley, Shelley. Now let me finish, man. First of all, I haven, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, She Now, let me, Shelley, Shelley, I'm not gonna waste time going back and forth over asking a question. I'm gonna ask it, then you can answer it.

Starting point is 00:13:50 Now. Go ahead. Thank you. You have to give me permission to go ahead. It says you wanna expand a program that you're actually cutting. You want to invest 20 billion in broadband that was already passed by Congress and signed into law by Biden that they cut.

Starting point is 00:14:11 So how can you invest 20 billion dollars in broadband, especially in rural areas, when Elon Musk, Donald Trump, they cut it? Those two don't go together. OK, so I answered that. The first statement that you made, the first line, jobs, jobs, jobs, I answered that. I answered the tax cuts I'm going to answer now. And then I'll get to the next question that you get. No, no. I asked you about broadband, not tax cuts.

Starting point is 00:14:39 So answer the question that I asked. Not what you want to ask. No, Shelley, I just asked you about broadband. I'm going to ask you again. You asked me about tax cuts first. Shelley, I asked. Not what you wanna ask. No, Shelly, I just asked you about broadband. I'm gonna ask you again. You asked me about tax cut first. You said tax cut for in the plan. Shelly, I'm gonna ask you again. I'm gonna ask you again, Shelly.

Starting point is 00:14:52 So let me finish the answer to the first question, dog. Shelly, I asked you about broadband. Answer the broadband question. This is like arguing with my wife. First of all, I don't care about your wife. Yeah, but you can't, you don't let nobody talk. You're like a woman, man. Can you answer? No, you don't let nobody talk. You're like a woman. Can you answer, no, I'm not like a woman.

Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm like a man, a black man, who's asking a specific question and you wanna answer on your own terms. Answer the broadband question. How do you invest in broadband when you just cut it? Because the money went to the states. Georgia has a huge spending in broadband. Brian Kemp won two elections against Stacey Abrams

Starting point is 00:15:26 because of his investments in broadband. The money exists in the states. Now, let me go back to the tax cuts. What money? Walla, what money? Did the money come from the federal government? The federal government goes to the states. What they cut out the...

Starting point is 00:15:43 First of all, your wifi is not good, so you might wanna get on ethernet. And now, because of the cuts? Hold on, wait, one second, one second, one second. Now let me go back to the text. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. First of all, your video broke up. You said the money.

Starting point is 00:15:56 What money did Doge, what broadband money did they cut? They cut the money that actually went to states. And if you look back, now go back to the big, beautiful bill. Has it passed? And see, no, that's not what I'm talking about. You asked me a question, man. Go back to the big, beautiful bill

Starting point is 00:16:16 and you'll see monies in there for broadband, for rural areas. And now what we have to do as black businesses is compete for those contracts. Which is completely- So they cut the broad- So Shelly, Shelly, Shelly, I just wanna be clear. I really don't.

Starting point is 00:16:31 I got a big show to do tonight. I got war going on. I don't know that confidence, bro. I mean, this is childish. I'm talking and you cut me off. No, no, no, Shelly, I want you to clarify something. Not dumb, man. I just answered your question.

Starting point is 00:16:44 I need you to clarify something. They dumb, man. Shelley, Shelley, I need you to clarify something. They cut the broadband money that was all, Shelley, let me finish. They cut the broadband money that was already passed and they gonna put the money back in? No, no, I didn't say that. What I said was broadband monies, they're not cutting broadband from rural areas.

Starting point is 00:17:05 A lot of the broadband money that Doge cut was from the previous administration because it was too much. So that's why they cut it back. And it's now in a big, beautiful bill. There's monies in a big, beautiful bill, which is why a lot of conservatives like myself are against this bill,

Starting point is 00:17:23 because it still has the same level of spending that the Bidens, that Biden had spending in his administration. And Republicans ran on cutting spending, which is why so many of us are against this big, beautiful bill, because the spending levels are still there, inclusive of broadband. Now let's go to the tax cuts that you mentioned. Because you listened to that, didn't you? First of all, I'm listening. Go ahead. Right.

Starting point is 00:17:49 So the tax cuts. Now in the tax cuts that we're trying to get past, extending the Trump tax cuts from 2017, is that does help black businesses. How? Because you know, if tax cuts are in there for capital gains, which helps every single day trader out there,

Starting point is 00:18:07 and I know thousands of them, as a matter of fact, earn your leisure, get ready to come to Atlanta again in the next couple of weeks, and all of those people trade, that's capital gain saving. Day traders are not black businesses, but go ahead. What I mean by people that trade, you know what I mean? No, you say black businesses. You know what I mean by capital gains.

Starting point is 00:18:24 I just wanna be clear. You know exactly what I'm? No, you say black businesses. You know what I mean by capital gains? I just wanna be clear. You know exactly what I'm talking about. No, you say black businesses. Capital gains cuts, capital gains cuts just does impact small businesses, especially small businesses. The corporate tax sales tax impacts small businesses. If you're a black business and they have tax cuts

Starting point is 00:18:40 and it impacts your business, it impacts your business even more because more of your income is going out to the federal government. So if you can save that money and put it towards the growth of your business, that benefits you. So how do you grow a business

Starting point is 00:18:56 if you can't get federal contracts? Because last year on the Biden Harris, excuse me, last year, hold on, hold on, excuse me, Shelley, Shelley, Shelley, one second, Shelley, Shelley. Some people are just running a small business. Excuse me, Shelley. So here's the trickery. Shelley, one second, Shelley. Shelley, hold up. It's a fact.

Starting point is 00:19:08 Shelley, it's a fact. Last year, there was a record $10 billion in federal contracts that went to black-owned businesses. Okay? Now, first of all, I'm not happy with less than 2%, but I still have a record of $10 billion. Are you telling me, do you believe that under Trump, that number's gonna increase, stay flat or decrease?

Starting point is 00:19:28 Yes, I think it's gonna increase. You know why? You know why? Because I just saw a blue collar wage growth go up 1.5% in six months. No, no, no, wages is not contracts. Wages are not contracts. I didn't say it was, sir, sir,

Starting point is 00:19:42 if you allow me to get a thought out, for real, dog, this is ridiculous. But wages are not contracts. I didn't say, sir, sir, if you allow me to get a thought out, for real, dog, this is ridiculous. But wages are not contracts. I didn't say it was. I said, you also told me during the election that Trump wouldn't be good for blue collar workers. And I'm telling you, yes, I'm specifically asking you about contracts. Look, I'm out, I'm out, bro.

Starting point is 00:20:01 I'm out, I'm out, I'm out. I just asked you about contracts. This makes no sense, man. I'm not wasting my time. But how are you bringing in blue collar jobs, I'm asking, bro. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I just asked you about contracts. I'm not wasting my time. But how are you bringing in blue collar jobs? I'm asking about contracts. Because I'm making a point. I'm making a point that you all said blue collar wages wouldn't go up. They've gone up 1.6% in six months.

Starting point is 00:20:18 So where's grocery prices? You asked me a question. You asked me a question. You said, will black contracts go up, stay the same, or go down? I said they will go up. That's what I said. OK, you think they're going to go up?

Starting point is 00:20:33 OK, we're going to see if they're going to go up. Now, Donald Trump called. So that was a settlement that was done in Lowndes County, Alabama, where black people had sewage backing up into their yards and houses. The settlement was announced to fix the problem. Donald Trump got rid of the settlement, I call it an illegal DEI settlement.

Starting point is 00:20:53 Do black consumers- And I think, and you know who I blame for that? You know who I blame for that? I'm sorry, hold on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, hold on. I blame Scott Turner around him, and I blame some of the other African Americans around him. So you think that's wrong?

Starting point is 00:21:08 The problem that I have, the problem that I have is besides me and maybe two or three other African American conservatives who supported Trump, nobody is willing to challenge the administration when we disagree. So you think that's wrong? What? So you believe that decision was? I voted for him through... What?

Starting point is 00:21:25 So you believe that decision was a wrong decision? Of course it was. Got it. Now, let me ask you a question. I don't think it was racist. I don't think it was racist. I think it was more out of ignorance and not knowing what was really happening.

Starting point is 00:21:35 That's what I think it was. All right, so let me ask you this question. That was also a lawsuit. And that's where I think, and can I finish? Hold up, hold up. No, Shelly. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?

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Starting point is 00:24:25 There was a settlement in Louisiana, there was a lawsuit in Louisiana, I'm sorry, lawsuit against petrochemical companies in what is called Cancer Alley. Largely African Americans were being impacted with cancer. Yep, I'm familiar, I'm familiar. Hold up, hold up, Trump also- I'm familiar.

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Starting point is 00:25:08 and if black farmers still don't have their money. So understand who you're talking to, brother. First of all, first of all, first of all, Shelley. Oh, no. Hold on, Shelley, Shelley. First of all, let me be real clear. I specifically, I specifically booked you to ask you the question you gave the answer.

Starting point is 00:25:23 Now I'm gonna ask you this here. Why are so many of the black folks who take photos, they have the Black History Month reception in the White House. I can't answer that. I'm not there. I'm asking you. I can't answer that. Well, I'm asking you.

Starting point is 00:25:36 I can't answer that. Have you and other black conservatives? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You're a Baptist. I'm writing the Baptist Convention. Can I ask you a question?

Starting point is 00:25:44 Can I ask you a question? I don't know. I don't know. First of all, I didn't finish the question. Shelley, can I ask you a question? Shelley, can I ask you a question? Shelley, can I ask you a question? Shelley, can I ask you a question? Shelley, can I ask you a question? Shelley, I didn't finish the question. Can I finish the question? Sure. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:25:52 When I'm at, so have you or others who supported Trump or black conservatives, have y'all said, we need to have a conversation with these individuals to say, if you're going to be sitting next to him and having access to him, you need to be advocating on behalf of black folks. Have you or others done that? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:12 We've had meetings here in Georgia around what's going on here in Georgia, not for the Louisiana case nor the Alabama case. I've spoken to people offline about it, but they're in Alabama. Now, I have, the only voice that I have is my show. And I voice my opinion when I disagree on my show. That is my obligation and my responsibility to voice my opinions on my show to my audience. And I'm especially responsible to voice my opinion when I disagree. But disagreement doesn't mean necessarily I'm not going to vote Republican.

Starting point is 00:26:48 Disagreement means just that I'm voicing my opinion, telling you, yo, I disagree with this. We need to do something differently. So that's my superpower. Now your superpower should be doing the same thing for the Democrats, but you can't sit up here and get mad at the Baptist Convention for taking 300 stacks from

Starting point is 00:27:05 Target and you took money from the Democrats. Hold on, you want to go there? Hold on, wait, hold on, sorry. Hold on, what radio station are you on? I'm on 95.5 WSB. WSB. Did WSB take any political advertising money? They took it from both sides.

Starting point is 00:27:22 One second, hold on, one second. So WSB, so WSB. Both sides. Hold on, wait a minute. so WSB, hold on wait a minute. Hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait, wait a minute Shelly. Shelly, wait a minute. Hold on, no, no, no, Shelly. No Shelly, Shelly, no Shelly.

Starting point is 00:27:36 No, no Shelly, that's all cute. That's all cute Shelly. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,? Shelly, who is the parent company? No, no, Shelly, you work for them. You're not gonna get me fired by saying something I may not suppose to do, man. No, no, Shelly, you can't tell me the company that owns WSB? You can Google it. I'm just trying to tell you.

Starting point is 00:28:14 Shelly, what is it? Is it Cox? I have everybody on my show. Is it Sinclair? What is it? I had everybody on my show. I had, guess what? I had everybody on my show.

Starting point is 00:28:21 Wait a minute, wait a minute, I had Mark, I had Phillip, I had Shaggin. You don't want your radio station to political advertising money. Yeah, yeah. Because you knew what was coming, Shelley, because I'm going to like that ass up. Shelley, your own company took advertising money.

Starting point is 00:28:42 So you can say, oh, you can take money, but my company can't. Well, your side didn't offer money. Your side didn't offer money. Hold up, your side, your side did not come to say, hey, can we buy advertising? So guess what? That ain't on me.

Starting point is 00:29:00 That ain't on me. You're wrong, Shelly. Shelly, I have other black Republicans. I have other black got Democrats. Shelly, you're not the only one. Let me tell you something. Shelly, no, no, Shelly. Shelly, you brought up advertising. No, no, Shelly, you can't tell me anything because you brought up advertising. Let me tell you something. And your company took money. I have Democrats on my show. Shelly, I have Republicans on here. I have conservatives on here. No, you have me on there. I'm talking about people running for office, my friend. Shelly, you're not the only one. That's what I'm talking about.

Starting point is 00:29:25 Come on, man. Shelly, if they're scared to come on, that ain't my problem. Come on, man. Okay, Shelly, go do your little show. The National Baptist Convention. Hey, guess what? I'ma deal with them.

Starting point is 00:29:33 And, bro, Lamar ain't no different. First of all, you don't know nothing about them. Yeah, peace out. But guess what? You fool as shit, you know it. All right, let me explain something to y'all. Shelly's company, Shelly works for a radio station, WSB. See, I told y'all, I told y'all what happened.

Starting point is 00:29:50 You don't know how to hit N, Shelly? Learn how to use FaceTime. I don't know how to hit N, I don't see N. All right, y'all, here's the whole deal. Shelly worked for WSB. And see, I told y'all how this goes down. All the media company, see, Shelly don't wanna own up that his salary is paid by advertising.

Starting point is 00:30:09 Cox Media Group owns WSB Radio. So guess who gets political money? Cox, Sinclair, I Heart, Fox, Comcast, CNN, I Heart, Fox, Comcast, CNN, Nextstar, Tecna, all of these radio stations around America get political advertising money. All of these television stations get political advertising money. So Shelly got a problem that my media company got money from the Kamala campaign. Oh so his company can get money but my company can't and y'all saw how he tried to switch it. I have different candidates on my... We've invited Republicans they don't want to

Starting point is 00:31:03 come on. We've invited black conservatives and we've had them on. So y'all see how Shelley wanna play this little cute little game. So what Shelley is saying is, he don't like the fact, so he works for a white media company. He's an employee of a white media company. So Shelley is like, oh, so the white media companies, they can get political ad money,

Starting point is 00:31:28 but he got a problem when this black owned media company gets political ad money. Now y'all understand what the problem is when you black and you work in white media, as opposed to being an owner in black media. I'm bringing my panel right now. Because the reason I, it was the other stuff I want to get to, was she Shelley thought he can run my show.

Starting point is 00:31:52 Now, player, you're going to do the crap on your show. You're going to do it on my show. So Omekongo Dabingo Senior, professor, lecturer, school of international service, American University, author of Lies About Black People, How to Combat Racism out of DC, Killer Bofea, Communication Strateg, author of lies about black people, how to combat racism in DC, killer of affair communication strategies in DC, A. Scott Bolden, he's an attorney,

Starting point is 00:32:09 also based out of DC, glad to have all three of y'all here, I'm gonna start with you on the Congo. See, this is the thing that's funny. Now you notice when I said, okay, Shelly, you disagreed on the Lowndes County decision, you disagreed on Juneteenth, and you disagree on something else. But see, he kept running his mouth,

Starting point is 00:32:28 and there was some other stuff I wanted to get to, because I wanted to get his opinion on it. But when I asked the question, well, are you and others, are y'all meeting, well, not only in Georgia. Well, if you are so-called black conservative voice, and you care about black people, why do you not have the courage to call

Starting point is 00:32:45 all these other black conservatives who run their mouths on social media and who appear at Trump rallies, all that? Why is it that he's not challenging them? See, this is what they do. Too many of these folk, they run and hide, and they wanna claim they love black folk, but they really don't.

Starting point is 00:33:07 Omokongo, go ahead. Yeah, you are absolutely right. And it's really important that people hear these voices, because when you come down to it, you realize at the end of the day that they're really not about anything of real substance. And he tried to flip it by saying you weren't letting him finish, but you got a policy on this show. If you're talking BS, you don't really get a right to finish.

Starting point is 00:33:29 And so when you're hearing these guys, hunt, they don't care about Juneteenth and the like, these guys have no desire to take Trump to task. He's talking about, oh, black people are just gonna compete for these contracts. How are they gonna compete when anything that they're doing is labeled automatically DEI and they're gonna be disqualified?

Starting point is 00:33:45 So you could run down the list at every single juncture and why the points that he was making are just not making any type of sense whatsoever. And he can throw out little things, why disagree with this. The bill hasn't been passed yet. Once the bill is passed, he's probably going to fall in line as well. But at the end of the day, these so-called black Republicans have no substance. They have no core. They are in it for the grift. the day, these so-called black Republicans have no substance. They have no core.

Starting point is 00:34:05 They are in it for the grift. And at the end, they are not willing to concede anything. So he can throw out little things here and there that haven't made a big splash. But really, at the end of the day, they're going to be lockstep in line with Trump. And that's the only thing they got is being in lockstep in line with Trump.

Starting point is 00:34:20 And if you lose that, they don't have anything else. And he clearly demonstrated that, which is why he all of a sudden had to go. See, the thing that trips me out here, he goes, they gonna have to compete. Kelly, they compete right now. They actually compete for contracts. There's a reason why the DBE program was established. It was because of historic racism.

Starting point is 00:34:46 It was because of lack of access to capital. So in Shelly's mind, oh no, all of these folks, they're on the same level, they now have to compete. So, and he actually thinks, he actually thinks, Kelly, that if they are successful in getting rid of the DBE program, there's gonna be an increase in black contracts. He high. I mean, I don't know his mental state by way of drugs,

Starting point is 00:35:16 but it doesn't look good for our conservative friend. I can tell you upfront thatnothing he said to me made sense, especially when he was talking along the lines of competition and federal contracting competition. Why? Because, like he said, these programs were in place to set us up to compete. It was never to set us up directly for a contract. That would be too much like right in the first place, but that's neither here nor there. It was set up so we could be in a place to compete, because before these programs were in place, we weren't on the table at all. There was barrier after barrier after obstacle to getting us to the space in which we could

Starting point is 00:35:59 compete. Now, it is back to square one as to where do we even get the contracts from? How do we find out what the contract is? There's nothing in place now for the visibility and the accessibility to find out where these contracts are, how much they are, et cetera, et cetera. So as somebody who's been a federal contractor, who's been on federal contracts, who has seen her friends and other colleagues compete for these federal contracts and how, it is very disheartening to me to see other black people

Starting point is 00:36:33 assume that they just got them or we just got them because of the color of our skin. It has never been the case. That has never been the case. And it is just, he's just dumb. I mean, I was trying to make up something nice. No, it's just, just no, he's just dumb. Here's what's also amazing, also amazing.

Starting point is 00:37:00 And we're having some issue with Scott's signal. So we're trying to get that straight. The state of Georgia, Shelly loves talking about Brian Kemp, the state of Georgia. Last report, minorities in the state of Georgia only get 7.7% of state contracts. Wow.

Starting point is 00:37:23 Now, Shelly, you black conservative, how you not asking Brian Kemp what the hell is going on? How is that in the state of Georgia when it comes to state contracts, all minorities at 7.7%? Really? But see, those are the kind of questions that folk like Shelly don't wanna ask.

Starting point is 00:37:47 And they see, and they wanna operate by, we gotta compete, gotta compete. Well, it's amazing how folk know how to get contracts in Atlanta, but not the rest of the state. That's real. That is so real. Are you kidding? Go ahead. Omekongo, go ahead.

Starting point is 00:38:09 Yeah, and I'm glad that you mentioned the 7.7 percent because we also know that as within that, that's not all black people and we're probably not number one. It could be white women who are probably at the top of the list as it relates to that, as we see in other programs throughout this country that have been designed to quote unquote help minorities. And that statistic alone is an example of how so many of these guys are just willing to accept crumbs. They're willing to accept the smallest part of anything to say that, hey, Trump is good for us black people. And that's where the problem comes in. There's no resistance, no demand for more.

Starting point is 00:38:42 We're not talking about asking more. We're talking about demanding more because we put in the work. We gotta work twice as hard to be able to get half as much. And when we come from our communities as it relates to what black women are doing in terms of being the highest educated, the starting of businesses in terms of proportionality, they don't care about any of that.

Starting point is 00:38:58 We don't have the complexion of connection. And so if he actually used his platform to break down those numbers even further, then he would have a case to talk to the governor of Georgia. He would have a case to bring to Trump about how these programs are not being replicated nationally in the way that they should be. But they don't want to do that. They are happy with Trump's on the table.

Starting point is 00:39:18 They basically have this trickle-down economics type of mindset that they feel is going to just benefit all Black people when it's never been the case. And so if he was, if Shelley was serious, he would actually look at these numbers, break them down. And actually, if he actually broke them down in ways that you do, he would understand that they can't be defended in any way, shape or form. But just like Trump, they're only interested in broad conversations, broad comments about the greatest this, the greatest that.

Starting point is 00:39:43 But when you break it all down, you find that at the end of the day, it's absolutely nonsense. And Shelley's just not honest enough with himself to really recognize that. And also being loud, don't get it. Final point here, I'm gonna go to you, Kelly. Before I go to a break, my next guest, here's what's also laughable.

Starting point is 00:40:00 The Biden Congress passed a bill that put 42 billion into broadband. Shelley literally said, that's too much. Tell at the people in rural America. See, this is how nonsensical this is. So they slash money for rural broadband, but Trump said we gonna invest money in rural broadband. And Shelly's like, oh no, that's good,

Starting point is 00:40:29 because it was too much money going to rural broadband. You gotta be kidding. Go ahead. I mean, it looked like he needed some of that money for his own broadband for his connection. And I can't match because... Yeah, I mean, yeah. Listen, I'm not one to talk because I've been on your show plenty of times, my broadband been like... So, like, I'm saying that very directly and very objectively. It just did

Starting point is 00:40:57 not look good to be arguing about broadband while your broadband is out in any event. while your broadband is out in any event. When it comes to this administration and Republicans in general, what I've noticed is if it doesn't come out of their camp, they will try to flip it and reverse it so that it becomes part of their camp. And what do I mean by that? You just said the Biden administration

Starting point is 00:41:21 invested billions of dollars into broadband. We talked about on your show how they invested billions of dollars into broadband. We talked about on your show how they invested billions of dollars into making sure that farmers were well and all these other categories of black people that people don't really think about are well and as whole as they can be. It's not that Republicans necessarily disagree. And by Republicans, I mean Republicans, not MAGA. But conservatives don't necessarily

Starting point is 00:41:45 disagree with that. They just don't like that it was under the Biden administration. They just don't like that it came from under Obama administration, and those policies did not come out of a Republican presidency. So when he says that the money came out, now all of a sudden Trump is talking about it reinvesting, it's just about putting their name on something that is good because right now the stack of cards is completely against them as far as public opinion because they look like they're full of shit because they are.

Starting point is 00:42:18 Well, what I'm never going to do is allow somebody to think they're going to come on my show and then tell me how to run my show. You not let me finish. He spent more time filibustering than actually listening and then answering the question. But I just asked you there to be a warning for the decibel levels because my guy that was like there just needs to be a warning on our end to like lower our volume or something like, hey, we're being this political or above. How about just answer the question? Ain't that hard?

Starting point is 00:42:50 All right, y'all. That too, I mean- I mean, just- You know, it's your show. It's not that difficult for them to answer the question. It's just, if you just be quiet, wait, I finish, you answer, don't lie, don't lie, I don't interrupt. But if you lie, you're gonna get interrupted. Let me go to a quick break we come back we're gonna chat with uh about what's happening in Iran uh they fired back at us after we bombed them what the hell is Trump doing?

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Starting point is 00:49:41 Some reports say that they actually notified the Qataris and notified the Trump administration this was happening, so it really was kind of just like an exercise. It marks Iran's direct retaliation for the massive U.S. bombing campaign, Operation Midnight Hammer, which struck three underground nuclear sites in Iran. Now, Trump called the strike a spectacular military success, saying the goal was to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb, but the Pentagon actually cannot say whether or not the enriched uranium was moved by Iran. The interim, of course, is now claiming there's a ceasefire.

Starting point is 00:50:15 This is the tweet or whatever he sent out, some statement saying that there was a ceasefire now between the two. Come on, guys, can we show it, please? Thank you, okay, so now he's claiming there's a ceasefire. Dr. two. Come on guys, can we show it please? Thank you, okay, so now he's claiming as a ceasefire. Dr. Nola Haynes joins us right now. She of course works for, Dr. Nola Haynes working in foreign policy, of course foreign policy expert,

Starting point is 00:50:36 professor at Georgetown University, glad to have you here. So walk us through this, what the heck is going on? Many people say that Benjamin Netanyahu really pushed Trump into this. And we look at the bottom line is we're entering Israel's war against Iran or against the whole Middle East. Right. So it's definitely layered.

Starting point is 00:50:58 It's not as simple as wanting to dismantle Iran's nuclear program. That's the starting point. You heard Trump talk about right after the bombing of the three facilities, talk about regime change. You're gonna hear a lot about that. Because the larger goal is this. Bottom line, Israel wants to be the regional leader. And the way for that to happen

Starting point is 00:51:24 is to change the leader of Iran by force, which historically never works. And the U.S. is banking on Israel gaining that power in the region so the U.S. can then have more control over gas and oil reserves. That's the big plan here. It's a lot larger than stopping their ability to make weapons of mass destruction. Okay, but Iran then made a move closing off a critical passageway that supplies a 20% of the nation's oil. Absolutely, which they said they were gonna do

Starting point is 00:52:02 from day one, the Strait of Hormuz. Every state has a lever to pull, and this is Iran's lever to pull, as they are one of the major gas and oil manufacturers around the world. And even though the U.S. doesn't necessarily deal directly with all of our oil and gas needs from Iran, it does cause a certain level of instability within the market. It caused a level of anxiety to which is going to trigger gas prices going up. Now, who it does directly affect is China. China actually gets more of its gas and oil from Iran than we do, but it has a domino

Starting point is 00:52:38 effect. So, Iran pulled that lever. And I just want to say, you know, in terms of the so-called ceasefire, a few minutes later, Iran said that's false. So we have to be very careful about what the president says and how he says it, because we know that he tends to fabricate a lot of things. And this is a very dangerous time. Yeah. Yeah. He was the same one who fabricated that he was responsible for India and

Starting point is 00:53:05 Pakistan having a truce and they basically like, nah, that ain't true. That's a lie. So yeah, he's good known for lying. But this does draw us into this war. And it's not like we're not now in it. Right. So it does. And again, because this because this is the calculation of put Israel in as the regional leader, and then the U.S. will have access to gas and oil, where you can knock out the middleman of all the surrounding Middle Eastern countries. I venture to guess that they would like a word. And then, also, we still don't know how this is going to play out, because I have a hard time believing that Iran is just going to be OK taking all these Ls. You know, there's one thing about proportional responses, which is what we saw Iran do on

Starting point is 00:53:55 Qatar. There's nothing new about that. There's nothing new about a country knowing that an attack is going to happen. It has to be proportionate to what the other state did to them. So that's within the realm of international relations. So that's one part of it. I have a hard time believing after Israel killed some military leaders, aggressively

Starting point is 00:54:23 bombed them, and then the U.S. coming behind that, that Iran is just going to be like, oh, OK, I'm cool, I'm good. I have a hard time believing that. Well, absolutely. So what's next? What do you think happens next? And I mean, look, we've seen this one report that Iran has activated sales inside the U.S. Trump was like, don't you do that, or it's going to be even more attacks.

Starting point is 00:54:49 I mean, look, it's going to be a back and forth. Oh, absolutely. It's going to be a back and forth. And that's the thing. Like, it's going to be asymmetric. It's not going to be like a traditional kinetic conventional engagement. It's going to be these asymmetrical attacks, perhaps cyber, perhaps terrorism. That's really hard to, that's a tough one

Starting point is 00:55:13 because you never know where a terrorist attack can come from. The only thing that I can say to people is that they wanna be mindful of being in really big crowds. Other than that, it's really hard to tell where it's going to come from. And I've been seeing all this conversation about what is a sleeper cell, what is a sleeper cell.

Starting point is 00:55:32 It's basically a group of folks that's trained to engage in asymmetrical warfare. And then once they are activated, then they go and they then complete their mission. But they're dormant until their mission is activated. So that's a scary thought. And then again, you know, I don't know how real that threat is. I definitely do believe that we are vulnerable to terrorism. I want to state that very clearly. To broadcast that sleeper cells are going to be activated, that's an interesting

Starting point is 00:56:06 strategy. You know, perhaps that's more psychological than anything else. But to your point, there will be back and forth. What that back and forth is going to look like is going to be interesting. There is also a threat of Iran finding the Epstein evidence if it exists, if that's what Israel's holding over Donald Trump. Questions from our panel on the Congo. Thank you so much, Nola, for this information. I was actually really hoping you'd be on tonight, because one of the questions I wanted to ask you is, I hear so many people talking about, well, this is just going to be Iraq all over

Starting point is 00:56:41 again. And people who have more expertise in the field says, Iran is a little bit different scenario than what happened with Iraq. Could you speak a little bit about that? Right, so I see how people are drawing those parallels, right? It was the threat of WMD. It was a threat of a so-called unhinged leader.

Starting point is 00:57:04 There are parallels. However, Iran is a very different state from Iraq. It was a threat of a so-called unhinged leader. There are parallels. However, Iran is a very different state from Iraq. And one of the things that I've been telling people is Iran is not some small country, you know, where there are just huts out in the—out in a desert. That's not what Iran is. We're talking about a very large population, a very old civilization, and a country that also has a strategic partnership with Russia.

Starting point is 00:57:32 They signed that in January. And then they also have the backing of China. And we still don't know what that particular triangle is going to look like. So you could have a situation where other Middle Eastern countries figure, okay, who do I partner with? Do I prefer Iran as it exists? Even though they have a tendency of getting partnering with insurgents from the Houthis to Hezbollah and causing a lot of friction in the region. I need people to understand that. Iran, you know, they're not babies, you know, in that they're all cute and cuddly.

Starting point is 00:58:11 They are not. But do you want Israel to be the leader of the region? Because what would that then mean for other Middle Eastern countries? So this can unravel in a million different ways. So while I get the parallels, there are stark differences. Kelly. Again, thank you for coming on the show.

Starting point is 00:58:36 Something that I have seen on TikTok and other socials, while in jest, I see a lot of TikTok comedians saying, I'm Black, don't bother me, et cetera, et cetera. It's them people over there. And it's interesting because there's a little bit of truth to that in that, if I recall correctly, many moons ago, when there were hostages in Iran, my understanding is that Iran let go of black hostages for a reason.

Starting point is 00:59:11 If you can expound on that and how there's a, maybe there's a parallel in regards to that as far as can we maybe map out exactly what they would do? Are they ones who are considerate of those who are disenfranchised by the United States when they do, or I don't want to say when, but should they do some level of counteractivity? Do they take into consideration those who have also been disenfranchised by the state? So what Kelly's saying is if they attack us with sleeper sales, sleeper sales,

Starting point is 00:59:47 are they gonna hit black people? I got that. That was a roundabout way Kelly asked it, but before you answer. I'm trying to be politically correct here. No, no, no. You stood, Kelly. We don't do politically correct over here.

Starting point is 01:00:00 Just say it. Are they gonna hit black people? Just go ahead and say it. Kelly, I understood. Now hold up, but you know what? I make it plain for the audience. But hold up, one second. Thank you doctor for understanding why I said what I said

Starting point is 01:00:11 and the way in which he said it. We cut to the chase. He feeling himself, he gotta go with it. No, no, no, no, no. First of all, I ain't feeling myself. I'm telling you right now, we cut to the chase. So let's be real clear. We don't do political correct here, we do black. But let's be real clear. We don't do political correct here.

Starting point is 01:00:25 We do black. But let's be clear. Now, before you answer the question, let me add to what Kelly said. The problem that I have in America is we only reference Iran about 79. What we never talk about is 53. And so 53 set up 79.

Starting point is 01:00:48 Iran was a democratically elected, a democratically elected leader in Mosaddegh. Mosaddegh did not like the fact that Anglo-Iranian oil, now known as BP, was getting most of the money. He wants all the money to come back. The United States overthrew most of today's government. And we put in the Shah of Iran and his death squads. That led to 79.

Starting point is 01:01:14 So if people should read Stephen Kinzer's book, Overthrow, which is an amazing book, where he talks about that. But I just want us, when we're talking about this, to remember that you can't talk about 79. And this is the book right here, which is a phenomenal book where he details the 13 different times the United States

Starting point is 01:01:35 overthrew other governments. So we can't talk about Iran in 79, Anola, if we ignore 53, go ahead. Well, when I broke news on your show Friday night and told the world that what was gonna happen on Saturday happened, but you was out in your little row mobile, I mentioned to the audience. No, actually Friday, actually Friday,

Starting point is 01:01:59 I was speaking in St. Louis, flying back to Washington, D.C. I was in a row mobile on Saturday. So come on, get your timeline straight. But go ahead. And see how as I told the audience on Friday, all of this is successive. Right. And, you know, to Roland's point, all of this is a historical narrative that builds on itself. So we don't get here without that incident. We don't get here without a number of incidences in the Middle East. Right? And so in terms of does Iran align itself

Starting point is 01:02:36 with people who are disenfranchised, I would say yes and no. You have to understand that there are countries and there are decision makers and leaders who know the United States a lot better than we do. And they know how to tug on those levers. You know, my daddy would tell me stories about Vietnam and the flyers that the Viet Cong would drop from helicopters or they would find everywhere about black people go home. Why are you here? Your own country doesn't even want you or love you. So while an argument can be made, yes, Iran is very aware of the role in which black folks play in terms of how we vote.

Starting point is 01:03:22 Would I say that if they activate a terrorist cell that they will tell them to make sure not to kill black people, no, that's not going to happen. So I don't, I've seen the videos and you know, they make me chuckle, but I really want people to take this very seriously. You know, if you're out, don't think, you think, if you go to a concert and it's just a black concert, that everybody's going to be safe and okay. I wouldn't make that bet. I remember, I'll never forget the image when they released the women and the children and the black people and that black Marine was at the top of the staircase and the children and the black people and that black Marine was at the top of the staircase

Starting point is 01:04:05 in his uniform and he came off and it was like, man, them black people, they cost so much. Hey, go and let that brother go. We're not gonna hold him much longer, but we'll see what happens. We know we got an unstable person in the Oval Office, so folks, be diligent. No one would appreciate it, thanks a lot.

Starting point is 01:04:23 All right, folks, gotta come back. Come back. Ooh, I gotta deal with these Black Baptist folk taking this Target money. And I'm about to walk y'all through how the statements that they released are absolutely BS. Oh yeah, we about to unpack this thing. Next on Roland Martin Unfil filter on the Black Star Network.

Starting point is 01:04:51 This week on A Balanced Life with Dr. Jackie, we're talking faith, family, and fatherhood from rebellion to rebuilding. Each of us has different things in our toolkit that we need to look at to determine how to establish a way forward. I know going forward is not easy and most of you, like some people, don't like change. But as we talk about it, we grow together, we love together, we live together, and we laugh together. It gives us an opportunity to discover how to set the pace for what comes next for a healthy, happy and whole life. There has to be consistency in their lives that show that you care for them to know that you're missing me and that builds trust and then once you build the trust they'll begin to open up because you have become their safe place that they have been seeking.

Starting point is 01:05:40 That's all this week on A Balanced Life with Dr. Jackie here on Black Star Network. This week on the other side of change, Juneteenth. The day about blackness, it's a day about freedom. It's also a day about talking about justice delayed. And we are not in the business of justice being denied to us. So stick around. We are going to talk all about the case of reparations. The push of reparations is not just an economic project, it's a moral project.

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Starting point is 01:09:19 We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress,

Starting point is 01:09:38 whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. There's all the Proud Boys guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is why fear. On the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's Wealth Coach,

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Starting point is 01:12:16 do So All right, folks. I first started hosting my own television show in 2009. That was Washington Watch on TV One. That was September 2009. In November 2013, we launched the daily show News One Now. That ended December 2017. We launched this show, September 4th, 2018. So that means for the last 16 years,

Starting point is 01:13:32 I have been hosting either a weekly or a daily show. And in that 16 year period, in the 16 year period, I cannot recall a single time ever getting a press release, getting any type of statement about an initiative planned and organized outside of preaching by the National Baptist Convention USA. Now, I'm not hating, I'm stating the last time I recall ever hearing anything, ever hearing anything from the National Baptist Convention in USA

Starting point is 01:14:29 was when Henry Lyons was a president and got in trouble and wife burned the house down and all sorts, I mean all sorts of stuff. So, obviously I was shocked and surprised when they dropped this statement announcing them receiving this three, well first of all they didn't announce the amount but we later found out it was 300,000 but it's not deceiving them, them and three other denominations receiving this money from Target. Here was a statement, a statement up. So the statement reads, the National Baptist Convention USA is committed

Starting point is 01:15:08 to ensuring that corporations that do business in our communities give back to help rebuild and stabilize neighborhoods. The partnership with Target is based on our shared commitment to community empowerment through small business and entrepreneurial development. Investments in education and student support and workforce and skill development

Starting point is 01:15:26 unlocks growth across our communities. Next page. The NBC USA has been clear about our expectations and Target senior leaders have responded in a very positive way. We're working on a three-year plan that will be very beneficial to the African-American community.

Starting point is 01:15:40 If I thought Target was not sincere in their commitment to the African-American community, if I thought Target was not sincere in their commitment to the African American community, if I thought Target was not sincere, I would be the first one on the picket line. Our communication with Target has been at the highest level and we are continuing the dialogue with the federal government making deep cuts in education, healthcare, and other essential services.

Starting point is 01:16:01 We know the black church will be called upon to stand in the gap. Our outreach programs serving both our congregants and the broader community must be fully resourced to respond to the need. I am proud to say we will answer the call. Target's generous donation will help us provide scholarships, support senior citizens,

Starting point is 01:16:18 and invest in entrepreneurship programs that uplift our people in the future. The church must be a beacon that meets the spiritual and physical needs of our members. Through partnership with corporations like Target, we have better position to fill that mission. Huh, the NBC USA remains steadfast and committed to holding corporations accountable

Starting point is 01:16:33 to ensure African-Americans receive equitable opportunities in contracting, employment, other vital areas of investment. The National Battles Committee USA, founded in 1886, is the nation's oldest and largest African-American religious convention. Over 31,000 churches have 45 billion members. AtAmerican religious convention, over 31,000 churches and 1.5 billion members at the boys, Kimber president, NBC USA. See, I find that to be interesting.

Starting point is 01:16:56 I find it to be interesting that Kimber would release this statement. And first of all, let's be real clear, they released the second statement later, saying they were clarifying what was going on. They were clarifying that it wasn't just them receiving the money, that it was actually four black church denominations.

Starting point is 01:17:21 And so in their statement, they said that they were receiving money. They also said that the American National Missionary Baptist Convention of America and the Church of God in Christ, how they formed this coalition, the three of them. So that means three denominations are sharing $300,000. That's $100,000 each. Now what I find to be really interesting, reading that statement, go to the third page of that statement, did y'all see all the stuff they listed? Oh, how the money coming from Target, all this generous, it's gonna help us.

Starting point is 01:18:10 No, no, go to the one before that one. I want y'all to see, let's see here. Go before that one, let me see. Okay, let me see here. Now, let's go forward, go forward, go forward. How, oh my God, how this money is just great. Right here, Target's generous donation will help us provide scholarships,

Starting point is 01:18:31 support senior citizens, and invest in entrepreneurship programs up with our people. Y'all, you can't do all that for $300,000. So for 300 grand, you're going to do scholarships, invest in senior citizens, and entrepreneurship program? Do y'all know why this is a dumb ass statement? Because the reason Target is being boycotted is because they are going against their commitment of investing $2 billion annually in black-owned businesses.

Starting point is 01:19:14 I'm sorry, what are black-owned businesses? Those are entrepreneurs. So let me ask y'all a question. $300,000. $2 billion. $2 billion! If you go to TargetFast.org, which is the website of Passenger Mall Bryant,

Starting point is 01:19:43 you will actually see what the four demands are for Target. These four demands, cause let me be real clear, Jamal Bryant, Pastor Jamal Bryant is not the leader of this boycott. He is one of the leaders of this boycott. Nina Turner's organization, she's gonna be on with us in a few minutes. They're one of the leaders of this boycott. Nina Turner's organization, she's gonna be on with us in a few minutes, they're one of the leaders.

Starting point is 01:20:08 Tanika Mallory, Untell Freedom, they're one of the leaders. Nakeema Levy, Armstrong, and Minneapolis, one of the leaders. So there are multiple leaders of the boycott. It's a collective effort. So, here are the four points of fulfillment of their $2 billion pledge to the black business community. Deposits of $250 million into 23 black-owned banks. The establishment of 10 retail training centers at HBCUs.

Starting point is 01:20:41 A full restoration and recommitment to DEI principles. Those are the four demands. Now I need somebody to explain to me what credibility does the national Baptist convention and the national missionary Baptist convention of America and the National Missionary Baptist Convention of America and the Church of God in Christ, what credibility do they have in advancing the interests of black business? Please, by all means, show me your track record.

Starting point is 01:21:24 Cause I haven't seen it. Now here's what I do know. If you go to targetfast.org, you will see that there is a partnership with the US Black Chambers, Inc. That is a collection of black-owned, that's black chambers of commerce, which have as its members, black-owned businesses.

Starting point is 01:21:53 They are part of the Jamal, Nina, Tamika, Nkima coalition, targeting target. That boycott is about advancing the interest of black companies with products on Target's shelves. So I'm confused, where are y'all coming from when y'all ain't being nowhere around here. Now what I find to be real interesting is, and I'm gonna tell you what happened,

Starting point is 01:22:32 so they talked about in one of their deals, Willie Wilson, Willie Wilson, a Chicago businessman, he is the chair of the Economic Development Committee for all three groups. I talked to Willie over the weekend. Willie's a good man. Willie's given millions of dollars to various groups. But I also talked to other pastors they were meeting with.

Starting point is 01:22:57 And what I was told was that, and Willie said that he met with Jamal in Chicago. I was told that Jamal was coming to Chicago to preach at Rainbow Push. And that several pastors and Jamal met with Willie. And Willie said that Jamal could, and I was told point blank, that one of those pastors,

Starting point is 01:23:17 that Willie was told that the efforts of Jamal and the others was much further along than the Baptist groups. And they should be standing with them. Willie told them that Jamal was welcome to come to them, to the target meetings, but he could not talk. Willie would be leading the negotiations. Jamal said, that's unacceptable.

Starting point is 01:23:41 Now, here's what I don't understand. Now, here's what I don't understand. How are y'all working on a three to five year plan with Target on behalf of black people, and y'all ain't came and talked to black people? There is literally a boycott going on. Black folks are not going to Target, not shopping at Target. We are driving people to buy from these black-owned stores

Starting point is 01:24:10 directly. We ain't seen y'all. Now, here's what I find to be very interesting. I pulled this story here up. It's from September 27, 2001. And it says, a controversial figure, Kimber, still at center of political scene. And so I'm sitting here reading this article,

Starting point is 01:24:33 and it says that on Reverend Boyce Kimber's wall hangs photo collages of the minister smoozing with Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Bill Clinton nearby. There's a large portrait of Martin Luther King Jr., the leader Kimber says he admires the most. And right behind the desk is a matching portrait of Kimber. Quote, Dr. King has always been an idol of mine, and a lot of people looked at King as a troublemaker. But when King was assassinated, he became an American hero.

Starting point is 01:25:02 I sometimes try to get my hair cut like him. Now I find that to be interesting. And the article goes on and it talks about Kimber's history, it talks about long ago being a convicted felon and all different stuff. And I'm not, again, this is all how he's involved in democratic politics. And this is y'all's involved in Democratic politics,

Starting point is 01:25:25 and this is y'all from 24 years ago. So a lot has happened over that period. Talks about how he, he said he made lots of mistakes, things that and the other, and he was involved in all kind of stuff like that, and so this ain't about him. This is about MLK. See, I was blown away reading this story about how Kimber,

Starting point is 01:25:45 now the president of the National Baptist Committee in USA, how he likened himself, guys, come on now, how he likened himself to MLK. And I found that to be very interesting. I found it to be very interesting, likening himself to MLK in this article, because if you liken yourself to MLK, how are you not acting like MLK?

Starting point is 01:26:15 Because see last I check, last I check, um, when MLK, uh, was giving his final sermon at Mason Temple, at Mason Temple in Memphis, Tennessee, on April 3rd, 1968, many of us call this the mountaintop speech. And in that particular speech, King talks about their movement. In that speech, King talks about how black folks

Starting point is 01:26:50 should be working as a collective. In that speech, he talks about black economics. And what I find to be real interesting is, in the same sermon, he talks about the injustices in Memphis. He talks about how the sanitation workers are being impacted. He talks about what needs to happen in what he called his majestic struggle

Starting point is 01:27:19 of what needs to go down. And then he goes on and he talks about what needs to happen and how there needs to go down. And then he goes on and he talks about what needs to happen and how there needs to be what is called redistributing the pain. Yeah, in that speech, he talks about it because he talks about what the preachers in Memphis were doing. He says, I wanna command the preachers under the leadership of these noble men, go to my iPad, James Lawson. One who has been in this struggle for many

Starting point is 01:27:50 years, he's been to jail for struggling, he's been kicked out of Vanderbilt University for this struggle, but he's still going on fighting for the rights of his people. Reverend Ralph Jackson, Billy Kyle, I could just go right on down the list, but time will not permit. But I want to thank all of them. I want you to thank them because so often preachers aren't concerned about anything but themselves. And I'm always happy to see a relevant ministry. Let me stop right there. King says, so often preachers aren't concerned about anything but themselves. You got to be concerned about yourself when there's a black boycott going on

Starting point is 01:28:30 and you decide to walk into Target and meet with the highest levels, but you don't say who that is. You don't say how many meetings you had. You don't say, and you walk out with a $300,000 check for three different denominations talking about you working on some major plan for Black America when you have as groups no credibility in this area.

Starting point is 01:28:58 Then as I go on, he talks about the responsibility of preachers and what they must do. But then is where he gets to the meat of it. MLK says, quote, go to my iPad. Now, the other thing we'll have to do is this. Always anchor our external direct action with the power of economic with. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. with the power of economic with... I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?

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Starting point is 01:32:37 Did you ever think about that? After you leave the United States, Soviet Russia, Great Britain, West Germany, France, I can name the others, the American Negro collectively is richer than most nations of the world. We have an annual income of more than $30 billion a year, which is more than all of the exports of the United States and more than the national budget of Canada. Did you know that? He says boom right here. That's power right there if we know how to pull it. Earlier, he says, never stop and forget that collectively, that means all of us together. And then he comes back down. That's power if we know how to pull it.

Starting point is 01:33:37 You can't talk power if you are the National Baptist Convention, the National Baptist, National Missionary Baptist Convention of America and the Church of God in Christ. When you decide to go sit with Target and then you don't talk to the boycott leaders, you don't talk to the black chamber, you don't talk to black entrepreneurs. That's why King called it the collective.

Starting point is 01:34:07 Then King goes on to say, we don't have to argue with anybody. We don't have to curse and go around acting bad with our words. We don't need any bricks and bottles. We don't need any Molotov cocktails. We just need to go around to these stores. Oh, I'm sorry, he said stores, and to these massive industries in our country and say, God sent us by here to say that you're not

Starting point is 01:34:37 treating his children right. And we've come by here to ask you to make the first item on your agenda fair treatment where God's children are concerned. Now, if you are not prepared to do that, we do have an agenda that we must follow. And our agenda calls for withdrawing economic support from you. So boys, Kimber, I need you to explain to me,

Starting point is 01:35:11 how is MLK your mentor? How is MLK the person who you revere but you forgot about this sermon? How is it that you got your hair cut like King but you ain't cutting a figure like King in 2025? How can you claim that you love Dr. King so much yet you're unwilling to follow the lead of Dr. King, because allow me to remind you, Boyce Kimber, as well as the other leaders, get me the names of the other leaders of those denominations, give me the names of the National Mystery Baptist Church of America, Church of God in Christ.

Starting point is 01:36:02 I want to see both of their photos. What I need you to understand is how can you sit here and say you love MLK, but you ain't following MLK? Because see, MLK in his sermon mentions Reverend Dr. James Lawson. And it was James Lawson who made the phone call to King to come in. Now when King came to Memphis, the boycott had already been called.

Starting point is 01:36:30 The boycott had already started. King came into Memphis in April, the boycott had started a couple of months earlier. You had Bill Lucy and other pastors in Memphis who were all leading the boycott. So, M.O.K. didn't walk into Memphis and say, You had Bill Lucy and other pastors in Memphis who are all leading the boycott. So MLK didn't walk into Memphis and say, I'm here. I'm meeting with the mayor.

Starting point is 01:36:53 I'm meeting with the sanitation company. No, MLK said, I'm going with the leadership. I'm going with them. M.O.K. said, I'm here to support the boycott. I'm here to support the strike. He didn't say I'm usurping it. He sat down with the leadership of the boycott that existed before he got there. Y'all ain't done that.

Starting point is 01:37:30 Boyce Kimber, you have not done that. Your board has not done that. Willie Wilson, you talked to a couple of preachers, and I know two of them. You talked to Pastor Brian, but you ain't talked to the broader group that leading the boycott. There have been no strategy conversations. I know y'all ain't sat down with other civil rights groups and other black economic groups and said,

Starting point is 01:37:59 how can we move as a collective to hold these companies accountable? No, what y'all have just done is take the $300,000 and then give Target cover. Because that's what these companies do. See, it's easy to identify the least expensive Negro. Because if I give y'all 300, I ain't got to give y'all two billion.

Starting point is 01:38:30 If I hand y'all 300, under the guise of we gonna work on some entrepreneurship programs, I ain't got to support all of the black entrepreneurs who are already enrolled in our program to get their products on our shelves. See, that's the problem with all of this. Y'all are jotty come lateles. I'm serious and I'm being straight up.

Starting point is 01:38:56 Where have y'all been? When corporate America made anywhere from 30 to a hundred100 billion in commitments to black America after the murder of George Floyd, I do not recall seeing a single text press release, email, phone call from anybody with the national Baptist convention and your president had my phone number. You can't tell me he didn't know when I put him on a text chain with the likes of the following.

Starting point is 01:39:45 See, if y'all wanna go there, we can go there. I put your president on a text chain that I have with Al Sharpton, Cornel West, Cliff Albright, Damon Hewitt, Derek Johnson, NAACP, Freddy Haynes, Jamal Bryan, Karen Towns, NAACP, Latasha Brown, Black Voters Matter, Mark Morial, National Urban League, Melalee Campbell, National Coalition

Starting point is 01:40:16 on Black Civil Participation, Reverend Ralph West, Bishop William Barber, President and Mayor of the Board, Mayor of the Chair of NAACP, Rosalyn Brock. See y'all, we ain't heard nothing. We ain't heard nothing. When Breonna Taylor was gunned down in Louisville and the folks for Untell Freedom

Starting point is 01:40:44 essentially moved to Louisville, working with local groups. We heard nothing from the National Baptist Convention USA. We heard nothing from COGIC. We heard nothing from the missionary board. Do y'all want me to continue? When we were sitting here fighting for contracts, when I and others were involved in the Black-owned media collective

Starting point is 01:41:12 and we were calling out the ad industry and these ad agencies for spending $350 billion a year on advertising and Black-owned media was getting 0.5 to 1%. I don't recall ever hearing from the National Baptist Convention, from the Missionary Commission or COGIC. And that was $350 billion. And black-owned media getting.5 to 1%. Y'all corporate office entities in Nashville.

Starting point is 01:41:57 Nashville, back to the U.S.A., your corporate office is in Nashville. When we went down to Nashville to stand with the folks at Tennessee State fighting for funding, where were y'all at? When the Biden administration sent letters to a bunch of states saying that HPCUs have been cheated out of upwards of $20 billion

Starting point is 01:42:29 and money that was land grant money that was sent to the states and that money never got to the HBCUs. Where were y'all at? If y'all want, I can do a rundown of all of the black economic battles that we have been waging since the death of George Floyd, the political battles, the social justice battles,

Starting point is 01:43:00 the criminal justice reform battles. And all I wanna know is, where y'all been at? Kojic, I was there in Memphis. I was there, pull the video up, April 3rd, 2018, from Mason Temple when we broadcast live and go to the remarks of Bishop Charles Blake. I was there in Memphis when y'all announced a major initiative for Black America.

Starting point is 01:43:36 We had the shirts, I am a man. Y'all were working with, asked me, that was seven years ago. What happened to that plan? So y'all gonna make me do a roll call here. So now, y'all ain't being seen nowhere. Y'all ain't sent no press releases. As a body, y'all ain't met with nobody.

Starting point is 01:44:10 Let me just go ahead and do this right here. Let me just go ahead National Baptist Convention USA. Go to my iPad. I typed National Baptist Convention USA into Google. These are the most recent stories on y'all taking the money, and then y'all having an educational conference in Montgomery. Then in April, y'all tapping women, tapping a woman for a key leadership role,

Starting point is 01:45:00 first time ever, being installed. Then I see this story right here, September 2024, national Baptist convention facing turbulent times. Then y'all's election and how that was controversy. And let me see, let me see right here. Huh. New president, high stakes election, national meeting. President of Black Baptist wants to meet with Trump about how we help our poor, okay, all right. Let's see here. Mm, okay.

Starting point is 01:45:35 I'll go on President, okay, gotcha, all right. Again, I'm trying to look at, I don't see nothing, okay. Baptist Convention brings thousands to Birmingham. Okay, all right, all right, all right. With a new leadership, nation's largest black protesting group confronts existential decline. Okay, all right, let's see here.

Starting point is 01:45:58 Outgoing head of largest black protesting group condemns bigotry in US, earn this voter turnout. That's cute. But Jerry Young never came on this show. I never had him on my TV one show. I never had him on Time Journal. I mean, we can just keep going on and on and on. I'm sitting here, okay,

Starting point is 01:46:16 Katondria Brown Jackson spoke to y'all in September. Oh, that's great. And I'm sitting here, I mean, look at this here. Look at this here. New national Baptist leader says we will be actively engaged in the political arena. Okay, that's interesting, because I don't recall ever seeing any of y'all

Starting point is 01:46:33 saying nothing, doing nothing, doing on any black media shows. I'm sitting here and I'm going. Now y'all notice, ain't none of these stories I'm pulling up got anything to do with economic reform, community reform. All I keep seeing are just meetings. Meetings, convening. Convening, convening meetings, meetings, convening, I need somebody, the only, matter of fact, the most attention y'all got was when Gina Stewart gave a sermon

Starting point is 01:47:35 at the Joint National Baptist Convention, and her sermon was taken offline, and it was a lot of controversy. I hope y'all see what's going on here. Y'all see in all of these stories, it's either somebody getting elected, them meeting, or there being a controversy over who they elect.

Starting point is 01:48:03 I don't see nothing about an agenda for black people. I don't see nothing about, I mean, all I just, y'all, this is the news section of Google. I don't see nothing. I just see meetings and more meetings. So do y'all now understand why people are shocked and appalled that we ain't heard from y'all on nothing? And all of a sudden,

Starting point is 01:48:40 you taking $300,000 from Target and announcing your partnership and you co-signing how sincere they are? Really? So again, I need somebody to explain to me how taking $300,000 that you gonna use on senior citizens, stuff for senior citizens, scholarships, and entrepreneurial programs,

Starting point is 01:49:13 tell me how far that's gonna go. The National Baptist Convention has 31,000 churches. That's what they claim. Y'all, the $300,000 in my speech on Friday, I said that comes out to $9.67 a church. Well, now we know they need to get 300,000. We now know the National Baptist Convention USA got 100,000.

Starting point is 01:49:39 That means with $100,000 divided by 31,000 churches, with $100,000 divided by 31,000 churches, that comes out to $3.22. Hold on one second. That's $3.22. That's $3.22. Okay, so let me just go ahead and do this here. National Battle Convention USA, Kojic, and missionaries. Let's see.

Starting point is 01:50:12 That's 322 per shirts. That's 100. I got 200. I got 300. I got 350. One, two, three, four, five. 450. Two, three, four, five. 450, two, three, four, five. 550, one, two, three, four, five.

Starting point is 01:50:32 That's 650, okay? I got $640 right here. So that means that for your $3.22, that means I can assist, oh, I can assist by 200 of y'all churches. Hey, your 200 churches, email me and let me know who I can send a $3.22 to. But see, I'm about to really mess y'all up.

Starting point is 01:51:04 I'm about to really mess y'all up. I'm about to really mess y'all up. One of the things that businesses do to offset their tax liability is they give to charities. We're no different. So last year, end of the year, my accountant goes, hey, that's what you got to pay in taxes. I'm like, I ain't trying to sit in Uncle Tapp's house and save all that money. So we then gave money to charity. Do y'all know that I gave charitable interest almost the same amount of money as these three are getting from Target.

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Starting point is 01:55:08 Streaming live only on Hulu. Ladies and gentlemen. Brian Adams and Sheeran, Fade, Chlorilla, Jelly Roll, John Fogerty, Lil Wayne, LL Cool J, Mariah Carey, Maroon 5, Sammy Hagar, Tate McRae, The Offspring, Tim McGraw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today, AXS.com. If they gave an award for the worst negotiation ever, this will qualify. You talking to a company that made $107 billion,

Starting point is 01:55:50 and you were so excited about $300,000 that your ass sent out a press release? Man, let me explain. When I was on the board of the National Association of Black Journalists, been on that three times and running again. Somebody gave us $10,000. And we had some board members who were just excited.

Starting point is 01:56:19 They just, and I'm sitting there, I mean, I'm hearing the hoopla, but I ain't really paying it on my own. And one of the board members said, bro, you heard the good news? I was like, what? They said, this company gave us $10,000. And I went, OK.

Starting point is 01:56:39 And they were like, what's wrong? I said, I'm sorry, y'all think I'm about to get excited about $10,000? I said, no, I can't do that, because it's $10,000. And y'all check this out. I then looked around the room and then it dawned on me. The folk who were on the board, it probably would maybe two other people other than me

Starting point is 01:57:17 that had ever negotiated a six-figure salary. See, if you ain't never negotiated a six-figure salary, $10,000 is a lot of money to you. Now again, Willie Wilson is a great man. He's a businessman. He's a millionaire. He's a philanthropist. But I'm sorry, Willie. $300,000 is an abomination. If the National Baptist Convention, if the Missionary Convention, the CoGEN, if y'all had any honor, decency, or integrity, y'all would send that money back to Target. Y'all would then apologize to Black America for negotiating for a crumb and trying to convince us it's a meal. And then what y'all need to do is have your leadership.

Starting point is 01:58:17 Y'all can pick the city. It can be at your office in Nashville. It could be in Atlanta. It could be in Florida, D.C., I don't give a damn where it is, and y'all need to sit down with the people who are leading this boycott, and you need to learn how to properly leverage your influence and your power. Because that's what King did.

Starting point is 01:58:43 That's what King understood about how to leverage one's power for change. What y'all are doing by taking $300,000 is you are selling out black America. You are saying to corporate America that black folks can be bought off with $300,000. What you are saying to corporate America is y'all don't need to listen to them folk over there

Starting point is 01:59:24 launching the boycott. Y'all listen't need to listen to them folk over there launching the boycott. Y'all listen to us preachers, because we speak for the people and we can speak more. So if you give us some much needed money, then we'll just do our own thing. Y'all, they have no interest in sitting down with the folk who are part of the target strategy group. Not one time this weekend, they call or email.

Starting point is 01:59:58 No, what they did is they had somebody loud-mouthed talking trash on Facebook, and this one preacher was talking, he was trying to dog me how nobody watched my show. It's almost 6,000 people watching me right now. I ain't even gonna say his name because he ain't that important. I guarantee you he didn't preach to 600 this Sunday. But he gonna sit here and try to challenge me? Dog, you got the wrong one.

Starting point is 02:00:29 It's more than 6,000 folk watching me right now. And most of y'all in the National Baptist Convention and COGIC and the missionary, y'all ain't speaking to 6,000 sitting in your pews at that moment. Y'all, this is not right. This is not proper. This is not how black people moved when boycotts were launched.

Starting point is 02:01:04 We did not cross the picket line unless we were negotiating and didn't nobody ask y'all to negotiate nothing. Y'all better do right by us. Because I'm telling you this right now, National Baptist Convention USA. I'm telling you this right now, COGIC. I'm telling you this right now. Y'all think I'm playing. Y'all think I'm playing. I'm talking about all three of your nominations.

Starting point is 02:01:42 National Missionary Baptist Convention of America, COGET, and National Baptist Convention of America, or USA, I'm gonna hit y'all every day. I'm gonna talk about y'all every single day. $300,000. It is estimated that black people were spending $12 million. What a day in Target, nationally. Y'all took $300,000.

Starting point is 02:02:25 Literally. And I ain't frontin'. Among the groups involved in the boycott, we could have easily sent y'all $300,000. If y'all need the money that bad, we could have sent y'all the money. But here's what I don't understand. How are you the National Baptist Convention USA and you got 31,000 churches,

Starting point is 02:02:59 you claim you got 7.5 million members and you broke? Cause you don't take 300,000 and split it three ways if you ain't broke. Cause if your cut is 100,000, that ain't nothing. That's awful. It's absolutely awful. Here's a little bit of Pastor Jamal Bryant speaking at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church

Starting point is 02:03:25 on yesterday, then I'm gonna talk to Nina Turner right after this. Play it. For the last 18 weeks we've been boycotting Target and said there's no way in the world we're going into Target where black people were spending 12 million dollars a day. We said to Target, you gotta do four things in order for us to walk into that store. It's that you gotta invest $250 million in the black banks. Number two, you gotta honor what you said to George Floyd's family and invest $2 billion in the black business. Number three you got 27 of these stores on white campuses but not one at an HBCU. You are the partner with six HBCUs with their business programs so that young people will be able to scale their

Starting point is 02:04:18 business and do a national franchise. We said to you that you've got to reimagine what DEI is and absolutely six weeks, 16 weeks later you didn't deliver to us even after we made your stock drop, even after the CEO's salary was cut by 42%, even after you lost $12 billion in valuation, but you thought you was going to go around me and go to the National Baptist Convention and these sell out for $300,000. Are you crazy to think that we're going to sell out for chump change? You must not know who we are My father is rich in houses In 1961 in

Starting point is 02:05:19 1961 the National Baptist Convention was meeting and they did not want to support a young preacher from Georgia named Martin Luther King. They said, you're speaking too loud about civil rights. We don't want you to do all of that. Just preach and sit down. Don't march. Don't make a stand. Don't challenge the government.

Starting point is 02:05:38 And as a consequence, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and God in the Taylor walked out of that church and started the progressive Baptist convention Where we come in full circle and I need you to know it wasn't just the National Baptist of America It was also the National Baptist of USA. It was also the missionary Baptist It was also the Church of God in Christ and the $300, dollars was not per institution. They gave them Negroes seventy-five thousand dollars for them to just sit down and roll it over. Not me, Jack.

Starting point is 02:06:17 I called the president of the National Baptist Convention. I said, Rev, we can't go out like that. We are selling ourselves short He said Jamal give me a couple of days. Let me get the board together I said bruh, you can get your board together, but Sunday morning I'm going to the mic and I got to say something and you got to give me something to work with He said pastor Brian give me a couple of days and I will do it. I said, you got one week to send me in writing that the Baptist Convention stands with the

Starting point is 02:06:51 boycott, stands with the oppressed, stands with the marginalized, stands with the nameless and faceless people who are on the front line. Seventy-five thousand dollars. Baptist Convention, I'll write you a check. You can't sell yourself out for 75,000. Something has gotta break. Over the last couple of weeks, Target been playing in my face. Been hiring internet influencers to go online, rappers and artists and athletes to play and to broadcast outside of Target and in Target thinking we ain't gonna say nothing.

Starting point is 02:07:44 But you ain't got to talk directly to me All you got to do is watch the rerun of a color purple Until you do right by me Nothing you do is gonna work. We will break target We will break dollar general and we will break any company that done to honor our dignity. Why they trying to take our dollar? The devil is a lie. Something gotta break. I do not have ire with the black church because I recognize the fingerprints of satanic principality. It is the intention of the enemy for us to fight each other. I am not declaring war on any of those Baptist conventions.

Starting point is 02:08:43 I am declaring war of the spirit of division. Come on y'all ain't saying nothing to me. White supremacy takes delight at us fighting one another. But if we learn how to stand together as one, we are a undefeatable force. The old Negro spiritual was walk together children. Don't you get weary. Do you understand how powerful we would be if black people would just stick together and stop stabbing each other in the back

Starting point is 02:09:18 and live with love of Jesus Christ. Folks, really right now, Nina Turner, She's the founder of We Are Somebody. We Are Somebody.org. They put this graphic here. I go to my iPad. I put them on blast Friday, those black denominations. After that press release, they put this on social media. They're handling a strike for all.

Starting point is 02:09:43 At the target, boycott continues. And I made this point, I'm going to make it again. I'm going to make it again. I need people to understand that Jamal Bryant is not the leader of the target boycott. Nina Turner is not the leader of the target boycott. Tamika Mallory is not the leader of the target boycott. Nakeema Levy Armstrong is not the leader of the boycott. These are all individuals who are part of the Target boycott.

Starting point is 02:10:10 And that's important, Nina, because we understand how folk have to work together because one group, one organization, one denomination can't do it. But when, and guess what? People do different things. And so Nakeema and her group in Minneapolis are doing their thing, you, Tamika, and Jamal are doing y'all thing, and other folks are doing their thing.

Starting point is 02:10:33 But what cannot happen is when you have these groups meeting under the guise that they represent millions of black people negotiating on behalf of black people, and they ain't talk to black people negotiating on behalf of black people. And they ain't talk to black people. That's exactly right, bro. I mean, just listening to your, uh, soliloquy, you laying it out between you and pastor Brian. I mean, I was just, hopefully your crew don't think I'm crazy because I was a man in and almost

Starting point is 02:11:01 shouting, we got to tell the truth and we have to expose this. Now anybody can be redeemed. And I am hoping that the National Baptist Convention, USA, and all the others who were involved in this will have a moment, you know, an epiphany moment and ask for that forgiveness. As you said, I mean, you all up in my notes, I feel the same way, that they should apologize to the Black community, give that money back and join forces with us so that we can be a greater and stronger force. Your point about this movement is much bigger

Starting point is 02:11:33 than any one individual. Certainly the spark was led by certain individuals, but the movement itself wouldn't be as successful as it is in terms of what Reverend Dr. Jamal Bryan enumerated in terms of the CEO cuts, the traffic cuts, the stock, all of that. That is because millions of people in this country sparked by black people have decided that they are not going to go to Target. This is a grassroots bubbling up

Starting point is 02:12:05 all across this country. Yeah, and the thing here is that people have, again, understand no boycott is successful without the people, none. So you need the people. So if you make a move like the National Baptist Convention USA, like COGIC, like the Missionary Group of America, then you need the people, not one person,

Starting point is 02:12:35 not a couple of folks negotiating, on what authority are you actually negotiating on behalf of the people? What offends me is the statement they put out talking about you got 300,000 and how you gonna use that to help senior citizens, scholarships, and entrepreneurial programs when the very boycott is about advocating for existing black-owned businesses.

Starting point is 02:13:00 You don't need to go create an entrepreneurial program when there's one right now. There are also a program that's gonna run out of money. I mean, as you said, even before you divided, that $300,000 was really comes up to really nothing. $100,000 a denomination. It's worse than Judas and the 30 pieces of silver. I mean, at least Judas even got a little more

Starting point is 02:13:24 than what they've gotten. But even if we put that aside, It's worse than Judas and the 30 pieces of silver. I mean, at least Judas even got a little more than what they've gotten. But even if we put that aside, $300,000 for the type of programs that you're naming is not enough. We're trying to build generational wealth here, not the penny here and the penny there. It really makes no sense whatsoever that they would do that. But Ro, you and Dr. Brian,

Starting point is 02:13:44 look, you done took it to the streets. It is my hope that this does not become a personality driven, that the people involved in this will understand that they made a mistake. As for forgiveness, let's get redemption and let's come together and do something real for our people. On the Congo, that's why I read what King said on April 3rd, 1968, when he talked about

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Starting point is 02:17:18 Okay, keep talking. All right, y'all figure out, I'm in Congo. Figure this out, yo, Kelly, can you hear me, Kelly? Yeah, I can hear you. Kelly, I'll pose that question to you, go ahead. Sure, so, I mean, you said so much, right? But at the end of the day, I just feel like they didn't even get off cheap.

Starting point is 02:17:40 They just re-enslaved themselves, right? Cause exactly what does 300K get you when I know a church mother that spends that on a half a convocation and coge it, right? You know, the economic value today of the five loaves and two fish is worth more than the 300K, you know? And I'm not even trying to be funny or facetious.

Starting point is 02:18:00 Like I literally see more money on 10 people max at one of these conventions. You spend more on that on speakers at your conventions and your gatherings and your conferences, right? Like it does nothing about this makes sense unless I'm missing a plot that was not in that press release, right? They, again, like Pastor Bryant said, you know,

Starting point is 02:18:28 you got to give me something to work with before I call you out. And they haven't said anything yet. It's, it's been a week, you know, like it's, it's sad. It is sad that you think that we can be bought that easily, if at all, right? Like I know a lot of people, I was not much of a target person,

Starting point is 02:18:51 but I know a lot of people who religiously went to Target to shop and have actively avoided Target for the reasons that you have stated, that Pastor Jemal Bryan has stated, that many others who have been advocating for this boycott have stated. And now one of those reasons did the NBC lineup, right? They didn't mention any of those things in the press release. Not really.

Starting point is 02:19:20 You know, they gave us a lot of lip service, a lot of shallow sermon speak, as if that was going to speak to a spirit of resilience and rebellion and justice. And for them to think that this is going to slide, it is insulting to those who go to church, it is insulting to Christians. It is insulting to everybody who advocate for this boycott. Omi Congo, COGIC has 12,000 members.

Starting point is 02:19:51 The National Missionary Baptist Church of America, they got 300. So if you add them all up, that's 43,300 churches. The amount of money they got comes out to $6.92 per church. Come on now, there's nothing real or sup. Omekonga, do you realize that I started this show with 350,000 of my own money? I started this show with more money

Starting point is 02:20:19 than they got from Target. Man, come on, dog. You know, you could tell your supporters to just write that check to S6 bucks and send it out to these different churches and they'll be fine. I mean, the fact that the National Baptist Convention feels like they can do this to us just kind of throw the wool over our heads and the fact that Target thinks that they can do this. I'm so happy that this has been

Starting point is 02:20:41 sustained. I remember when Sister Nina came on the show to talk about the organization of her aspect of the boycott. And they just think that we're going to do stuff temporarily. They think that we're going to break. They don't realize what they have activated. And they feel like they can go to various people, take a picture here and there, have the influencers and so on and so forth. Going off of Kelly's point, like Target was my favorite store. I was that dude. And part of it was because of their main commitment to diversity.

Starting point is 02:21:08 Now, I drive past two Targets every day. Isn't it what I'm doing right now? And so in the Ashland Baptist Convention and these other churches, they got to come around because some of their own members got to be speaking up. Some of their own members got to be seeing this. And Target, just straight up shame on you because in every way, shape, or form, you are showing how unserious you were about your commitment

Starting point is 02:21:29 to DEI once Trump got in, which basically shows that you were never committed in the first place. Because if you're not going to practice your values when they get challenged, they're not values, they're hobbies. And so you just thought that, oh, I'll just be cool with down with diversity right now. I'm going to see it comes, someone else comes along, I'm going to change my strategy. Now you better get back in line because too many of us are gonna keep falling out of line with you.

Starting point is 02:21:49 And I also thank you, Roland, for putting all of these churches and other groups and individuals on notice because you put this out on Friday. I was watching your feeds. I haven't seen a single other news outlet cover this up until this point. Nina, this real simple.

Starting point is 02:22:05 First of all, this ain't personal. This ain't personal against nobody in either one of those conventions. This is a people thing. This is a trust thing. This is a credibility thing. How in the world, how in the world can a national boycott be launched?

Starting point is 02:22:26 Target has acknowledged the boycott has impacted its sales, its stock price, all of these things. And these so-called black, again, these black religious leaders who are not black business leaders, they decide we gonna go meet with Target and we working on a three to five year community revival plan. The revival plan is already there. Put black products on your shelves, spend two billion annually with black folks,

Starting point is 02:23:09 support, put retail centers and HBCUs, deposit in black banks. I'm sorry, what exactly, what agenda do y'all have that's greater than that one? I would love to see. I don't know, Ro, and you know, another point to reimagine diversity, equity, and inclusion, and they really going against target right now,

Starting point is 02:23:33 they would rather go around and spend all this money, time, and energy to go around the leaders. When I say leaders, those of us who sparked the national boycott, we certainly are not the leaders, when I say leaders, those of us who sparked the national boycott, we certainly are not the fire, but the spark, rather than to do the right thing. Not only are they sure, not only have the national

Starting point is 02:23:54 Baptist convention and others who were involved, it's sloppy and it's sad. And they don't have to recreate it, we already know. And then what you gonna do with $300,000? You can't do anything. You have illustrated that. Others, there was a young man on Instagram, I think. I forgot who sent that to us, but he was breaking it down to a lot of the people in the black community are really upset. They feel betrayed. And so these religious leaders, if they want to stay true and have any type of integral, regain integrity

Starting point is 02:24:27 and credibility, they are going to have to apologize and come around. But don't sell black people out. And the point about Target, how dare you? But they're going to learn today. You know, they're saying they're going to help around and find out. They are going to learn today that these tricks are not going to work. They did the same thing when they went to go see Mama D, Mama Dolores Huerta, a esteemed activist in the civil rights movement on the Hispanic side out in California.

Starting point is 02:24:58 They did the same, CEO flew in to see her and tried to divide and conquer her as a Hispanic woman from the black community. And she told them to kick rocks. Now, if Dolores Herta could tell Target to kick rocks, once the CEO flew in, he flew all around Dr. Bryant, he flew all around Tamika Mallory, flew all around me and went straight to mama D. And I'm meeting with her to try to get her on his side. And she told him the black community is leading this boycott and you got to go

Starting point is 02:25:39 see one of them three folks. Not only did he do that, he tried to claim that our Hispanic sisters and brothers, or maybe they are, he said the Hispanic sisters and brothers are spending more money in Target. And so therefore we should be attentive to you guys than to black folks. And Mama Dee's daughter said to them that black folks who are the descendants of enslaved

Starting point is 02:26:08 people deserve much more. See, they couldn't. So, so I'm trying to understand this. If Mama D and her daughter could say that to the president of Target, but you got black religious leaders who sold out for $300,000. You have folks in the LGBTQ plus community and the pride getting $50,000 a year from Target. These small organizations say, we don't want your money. Okay, they broke the covenant. They said, we don't want your money. But yet you have black religious leaders

Starting point is 02:26:43 with conventions that span millions of people and they can't even stand up to these folks. It's some wrong role. And it is an abomination against the past, the present, and the future, because that is how we as black people must move. However, there is redemption. So they can apologize and reset this table row. It ain't over.

Starting point is 02:27:06 They can do the right thing. Yeah. Again, and again, it's not, look, I have no problem having them come on the show. We can talk about it. We can walk through it. They need to be sitting down with leadership behind this boycott.

Starting point is 02:27:21 And as a part of that, send the money back. Send the money. And here's the whole deal. If you're the National Baptist Commission USA, and if you're Kojic, and if you are the National Missionary Baptist Commission, if y'all need the money, we will take up an offering. Hey.

Starting point is 02:27:46 If y'all need the 300,000, the fund operations we'll take up an offering. That's right. If that's what y'all need. But just be honest, if you just say, y'all we broke. That's the whole real deal there. Now I'm gonna deal with this tomorrow. I wanna go ahead and show this real quick.

Starting point is 02:28:07 I got this late today, and we are gonna deal with this tomorrow. 40 former, go to my iPad, 40 former black McDonald franchise operators are aligning with the call to boycott McDonald's. And so he says more than 40 black former franchisees are suing the fast food giant over discriminatory practices

Starting point is 02:28:36 and policies that forced them out of the system. We're gonna be talking with them on Wednesday's show. And so we're just gonna keep y'all abreast of that. And so, and McDonald's is also, McDonald's is also one of those companies that reneged on their commitment, their DEI commitments. They made some commitments to black-owned media. When we were talking with them,

Starting point is 02:28:57 and it was a lot of back and forth, and I had black franchisees who were speaking on my behalf and others with the Black Own Media Alliance. And we were supposed to do a three year advertising commitment McDonald's. It lasted just one year. Then they were like, well, that was just it. It was kind of like, well, hold up.

Starting point is 02:29:14 That's supposed to be three years. And so all of that, and trust me, we know McDonald's market share of black folks. We know how much McDonald's black people eat. So this is, so Nina, last point here that I need the audience to- Bro, can I, I don't wanna forget this. Go ahead.

Starting point is 02:29:33 You know, and I wanna thank you too for your incredible courage to call, you know, to call this out right on the spot. And although you're not making it personal, some of the preachers whose feelings are hurt, I won't say all, but the guy who came after you, like you said, we won't mention his name, and tried to malign you and all that,

Starting point is 02:29:52 that kind of stuff ain't cool. He could say, listen, I don't agree, but no, he did try to make it personal. Some of these people are trying to make it personal. So I just want to shout you out as a colleague and a revolutionary for you not being afraid to call them out because it has to be done. And the other point about these celebrities better get a clue. Now, if they don't know what's going on, they need to pick up the phone too.

Starting point is 02:30:21 But it is absolutely embarrassing what they're doing as well. And they got a lot of money, and they're still going to sell out their community. We need more Muhammad Ali type celebrities. That's why we need some more Nina Simons. Nina Simons, Ruby Dee, Icy Davis, Dick Gregory, Harry Belafonte, Diane Carroll. We need more Sidney Poitieres.

Starting point is 02:30:44 And on the white side, more Tony Bennett's, more James Garner's. I mean, it's so it's folk that Joan Baez, so we can go there as well. But see folk- Who's in Sarandon, Danny Glover, who's still, you know, these people are still here doing, I mean, making sacrifices, Ro.

Starting point is 02:31:03 And then we see them making videos inside and outside of Target, like this is cool. We look weak, we look cheap, we look, it's embarrassing, actually. And what I wanna do here, I do want, there's a couple of posts I wanna show, give me one second, y'all, because I just remembered I had these.

Starting point is 02:31:20 And you've had some other preachers who have been willing to stand up, willing to make statements, posted these various things, which are important. I'm gonna read this one right here. This is a Pastor Dwight McKissick. He is out of Arlington, Texas. And this is what he posted on Facebook.

Starting point is 02:31:45 He said, the National Baptist Convention needs to seek common ground with Roland Martin and Jamal Bryant, not battleground. He said, Target not only reversed the prior affirmative DEI policies, but has reneged on fulfilling a $2 billion pledge towards economic development in the black business community. History shouldn't record that the National Baptist Convention circumvented a $2 billion

Starting point is 02:32:11 pledge in exchange for $300,000. What's at stake? Deposits of $250 million and 23 black-owned banks, establishment of 10 retail training centers at HBCUs, a full restoration of recommitment to DEI practices and principles, a fulfillment of target keeping their two billion dollar pledge. Standing together, we can make it happen. Splintering, we lose.

Starting point is 02:32:32 I would hope that calmer minds would prevail and brethren would dwell together in unity and not care who gets the credit, but work towards a strategy where we all win, not just some win who are willing to settle for crumbs from a rich man's table. The NBC needs to rethink their strategy, attempted to discredit and devalue a distinguished black

Starting point is 02:32:54 independent and highly effective journalist and not work in harmony towards fulfilling a broader vision that could produce a much greater harvest and benefit the masses masses rather than a minimal amount that would have minimal impact. MLK had a much broader vision and impacted the masses, so should the NBC. Amen. Bro, what about the one where it was what, about 20 preachers?

Starting point is 02:33:21 You got that one? Yeah. So you've had, it's another group, let me pull that up, a group of pastors that released their statement with regards to all of this. Let me find that. Thanks to them, Ro, why you, I'm looking for that. I wanna say the Freedom Budget for All Americans,

Starting point is 02:33:41 which you and I talked about briefly, that's something worth holding on to. Asa Philip Randolph, the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Bayard Rustin, people understanding that part of the civil rights movement's calculus was not just voting rights and not just civil rights, but it was economic rights and viability and respect. And Bayard was the architect of the freedom

Starting point is 02:34:01 budget for all Americans. I want our folks, your viewers, to go and look it up. It was a masterpiece to eradicate poverty in 10 years in the United States of America from 1966, I mean, from 1966 to 1976. Next year will be the 60th year anniversary of the architect of one of the greatest economic plans that this country has ever seen in terms of black folks,

Starting point is 02:34:28 not only looking out for themselves, but looking out for everybody else. Bayard Rustin once said that this country never has and never will do anything solely for the Negro. This is why we call it the freedom budget for all Americans. It was to gain racial justice for black folks and economic justice for all Americans. It was to gain racial justice for black folks and economic justice for all folks.

Starting point is 02:34:48 Those are the kinds of things, Ro, that we need to be coming together, fighting for, so that the National Baptist Convention and other religious institutions, and also our businesses, are not vulnerable to a tax like this, because we are building up a solid wealth base. Absolutely. I want to read two more here. This is from Brianna Mitchell.

Starting point is 02:35:12 This is from Facebook. As the former chairman of the board of directors of NBC USA, Inc. I want to warmly welcome and express my genuine excitement about the transformative changes coming to take place without a convention. He makes some other different statements. He said, but I'm concerned that this week during the Congress of Christian Education, the National Baptist Convention USA accepted a donation of $300,000 from Target. While such partnerships can offer valuable resources for our mission, it is important to critically examine the implications of accepting funds from corporations influenced by political policies that may conflict with our values. Target's recent policy adjustments,

Starting point is 02:35:49 particularly in the context of the Trump administration's DEI directives, raise questions about corporate motives and commitments. As a faith-based organization rooted in principles of justice and integrity, we must ask ourselves does accepting this contribution align with our long-term mission and ethical standards? We should approach such partnerships with discernment, ensuring that our financial support does not inadvertently endorse policies or practices

Starting point is 02:36:17 that undermine the very communities we serve. Our focus must remain on authentic advocacy, social justice, and fostering meaningful change, values that are not solely measured by monetary support. The recent customer backlash against Target stems primarily from the company's decision to scale back its diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. This shift included the term. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your

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Starting point is 02:38:09 realized my worth. Never stop being a dad. That's dedication. Find out more at fatherhood.gov. Brought to you by the US Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. Do you remember Vine? It changed the internet forever and it vanished in its prime. I'm Benedict Townsend and this is Vine, 6 seconds that changed the world. The untold story of genius, betrayal and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive. From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Adams, Ed Sheeran, Fade, Chlorilla,

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Starting point is 02:39:35 and the alignment of business practices with social responsibility. We cannot speak truth to power and then have our hands out for those very powers that continue to suppress and then have our hands out for those very powers that continue to suppress and oppress our people. True leadership requires consistency and integrity, standing boldly against injustice while also holding ourselves accountable to the principles we uphold.

Starting point is 02:39:56 If we are committed to justice, equity, and the liberation of our communities, our actions must reflect those values at every level. Only then can we genuinely foster the change and empowerment our people deserve. Now, there was a letter that Nina was referencing and this is it right here. Black clergy response to Target's attempt to silent Target FAST, the black church is not for sale.

Starting point is 02:40:22 We are deeply disappointed that amid the success of Target FAST, which has contributed to a 10% drop in foot traffic and a significant decline in Target stock value, Target has attempted to purchase the Black Church's silence with a $300,000 payment to the National Baptist Convention in the USA. Equally unacceptable is the decision

Starting point is 02:40:39 by the National Baptist Convention in the USA, one of the nation's largest African-American church denominations, to accept this payment. Their willingness to serve as a conduit for corporate damage control without transparency, without consulting the broader faith community, and without securing systemic commitments from target represents a betrayal of prophetic responsibility.

Starting point is 02:41:00 Accepting a check while the larger black community is engaged in principle protest is not partnership, it is complicity. In response to the attack on public and private diversity, equity and inclusion programs, Target withdrew its $2 billion commitment to black community economic development, made in 2020 following the murder of George Floyd. The black faith community responded with a 40 day Linton season target fast. Targets actions signals to corporations that our institutions can be cheaply bought that a fraction of a fraction of what promise can purchase silence from some of our most trusted voices. That is not only morally troubling,

Starting point is 02:41:39 it is strategically disastrous. The impact of targets withdrawal runs deep and includes sowing distrust of black clergy, loss of billions of equity dollars, economic development, educational advancement, and other opportunities. Instead of engaging in meaningful dialogue or on committing to long-term measurable change, Target has resulted to a familiar route, divide and conquer.

Starting point is 02:42:06 This transparent attempt to undermine the credibility of the Black church will not succeed as Black church leaders pledge to escalate what was a 40 day target fast into a year round campaign until justice is done. The prophetic tradition of the Black church is not for sale. Let us be clear, this is not just about economics.

Starting point is 02:42:29 It is about equity, integrity, and the responsibility of corporate power to answer to communities that have long sustained it. The black economic fast is not a call for charity. It is a demand for change. The fast continues. We stand in unity, committed to keeping the main theme, the main theme.

Starting point is 02:42:48 We urge faith leaders, consumers, and community advocates to remain vigilant, unified, and unwavering in purpose. Do not be swayed by symbolic gestures. Join us in holding corporations accountable, not just in words, but in measurable actions. And the signers right here, you will see Reverend Tracy Blackman, Reverend Dr. Amos Brown, Reverend Dr. Jamal Harrison-Brien, Dr. Ivor Carruthers,

Starting point is 02:43:13 Bishop Leah Daltrey, Reverend Dr. Cynthia Hale, Bishop Vash Tau McKenzie, Pastor Michael McBride, Bishop Rudolph McKissick, Reverend Dr. Frederick Douglas Haynes III, Bishop W. Darren Moore, Reverend Dr. Ot Douglas Haynes III, Bishop W. Darren Moore, Reverend Dr. Otis Moss III, Reverend T. DeWitt Smith Jr., Reverend Dr. Gina Stewart,

Starting point is 02:43:31 Bishop Talbert Swann, Reverend Dr. Jacqueline Thompson, Reverend Mark Thompson, and Reverend Dr. Barbara Williams Skinner. Those are the preachers that signed this particular statement here. And the last point that I will make is that you saw me when I read there

Starting point is 02:43:49 where Bishop Kimber said that, Reverend Dr. Kimber said that he wanted to meet with Trump about their attacks on the poor, the agenda on the poor, okay? So here's the question that I have. This is the question that I have for the National Missionary Baptist Convention. This is the question that I have for COGIC,

Starting point is 02:44:15 and this is the question that I have, let's see here, I'm just gonna pull them up. So this here is the leader of the National Missionary Baptist Convention of America, Reverend Dr. Anthony Sharp. He is out of, he went to Bishop, and so he's out of Texas. So that's Reverend Dr. Anthony Sharp. So we are, so pull up the leader of National Baptist Convention.

Starting point is 02:44:46 This is a Boyce Kimber. Y'all had the video, pull his video up, please. I'm doing this for a reason. That's what, that's who he is. And so then you have, of course, you have the Church of God in Christ. They're one of the other three that actually received, the other three that actually received, the other three that actually received this money.

Starting point is 02:45:07 Go to my iPad. Jay, the presiding bishop of the Church of God in Christ, is Jay Drew Sheerid, presiding bishop and chief apostle. So he leads the church. So here's the question I have for the three of them. Since they chose to accept this money from Target, since they chose to say to stand up on behalf of black people, here's my question. Bishop Sheard, Bishop Sharp, Pastor Kimber, are we going to see three of y'all next Monday?

Starting point is 02:45:40 Go to my iPad. Are y'all going to come to Washington, D. Are y'all gonna come to Washington DC as the leaders of three of these denominations? And are you going to stand with Bishop William Barber and the Poor People's Campaign and Repairs of the Breach as they have their Moral Mondays in DC to stand against this bill that attacks the poor, that attacks the disenfranchised,

Starting point is 02:46:04 and enriches the wealthy? Are y'all going to send statements of support saying, you staying with Bishop Barber against this so-called big, beautiful bill that is a big, beautiful lie? I have yet to see the National Baptist Convention issue a statement against this document that is anti-poor. I have yet to see Kojic. I have yet to see a statement against this document that is anti-porn. I have yet to see Kojic.

Starting point is 02:46:26 I have yet to see a statement. If y'all did, somebody email it to me. The missionary commission, I ain't seen y'alls either. So if y'all could send out a press release on getting Targets money, I wanna know, are y'all gonna stand with Bishop Barber, cause we gonna be broadcasting live next Monday from the Capitol across from the Supreme Court.

Starting point is 02:46:48 So I wanna know where are these church leaders, these domination leaders when it comes to this bill that has a negative impact on the poor and working class folk in this country. That's what I wanna know, Nina, and I'm waiting to see. Amen. Well, hey, I'm a church girl. When the sermon has been preached, amen, amen, and amen.

Starting point is 02:47:11 Redemption is possible, and they need to come on and jump on this and get redeemed real quick. All they gotta do is a call and email, but then be clear, if you don't, and if you stand by this, the heat will continue. And I wasn't playing Friday when I said,

Starting point is 02:47:33 I'll show up at your churches and walk right and sit on the front row to look you in the eye and say, how dare you sell out black people? In the words of our man, Joe Morton from Scandal, don't make me angry. Nina, I appreciate it.

Starting point is 02:47:57 I appreciate you. Thanks a bunch. We'll keep working. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Folks, that is it for us tomorrow. We're gonna have for you the recap of the Virginia Democrats at the Commonwealth Gala. Tomorrow we'll also talk about, of course,

Starting point is 02:48:11 the boycott being called for when it comes to McDonald's. It's a whole lot going on. I just want black people to remember, y'all, we got power. We got the ability to change things. We got the ability to move folk to action, but we gotta be able to use our power in a collective way. So Nina said, the church, she said,

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