#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Israel-Hamas War Day 55, Wrong Black Texas Man Arrested, Baton Rouge's Boil & Roux Targeted

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

11.30.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Israel-Hamas War Day 55, Wrong Black Texas Man Arrested, Baton Rouge's Boil & Roux Targeted The more hostages get released, the longer the truce remains in effect in the Israel-Hamas war. Tonight, John Kirby, the Coordinator for Strategic Communications at the National Security Council, is here to explain the United States' role in this conflict.  Black-owned Louisiana restaurant owners say a white city council member is harassing them. I'll talk to one of the owners and their attorney about this bizarre attempt to shut them down.  A black single father is suing the Dallas, Texas, police department and the officers who wrongfully detained, tased, and beat him. Silvester Hayes will be here to describe what happened the day he was mistaken for a violent suspect with a similar name.   Houston, Texas, Mayor Sylvester Turner had the time to respond to mayoral candidate John Whitmire's political dog whistle.   Atatiana Jefferson's family reached a multi-million dollar settlement for his nephew, who witnessed her being murdered by a former Fort Worth police officer.  Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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There's a truce, humanitarian truce, in the Israel-Gaza conflict. We'll get an update from John Kirby with the White House about that. Also, the family of Austin Jefferson, the black woman who was shot by a Fort Worth cop

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Busy day in D.C. I'm stuck in traffic because the White House. John, glad to have you here. Busy day in D.C. I'm stuck in traffic because the White House Christmas tree lighting. So I was totally unaware that that was today. I was warning what's up with the dump trucks open down 17th Street. So that's why I'm doing this from the car. So first off, so many people have been clamoring, demanding President Joe Biden lead a ceasefire. But we now see, walk people through how delicate these negotiations have been. And it's not just involving the United States. It's multiple countries that are involved in this. Yeah, thanks, Roland. Thanks for having me.

And my plan was to be in studio with you as well. But I'm stuck here at the White House because I can't get out because of the traffic. So I'm glad we had this chance to talk. You're right. We are now on the seventh day of a pause in the fighting, which has not only helped us get about 100 people out, hostages, but a lot of trucks of aid, food, water assistance, medical supplies, fuel in hundreds, several hundreds of trucks. And that has taken an awful lot of work, led by the president, personal involvement and engagement with the Emir of Qatar, who has communications with Hamas, of course, Prime Minister Netanyahu, and of course, President Sisi of Egypt.

But down below his level, the national security team, even on the ground there, has been very actively engaged literally by the hour to keep this pause, this humanitarian pause in place. Now, again, going into seven full days here, as you may have seen, Secretary Blinken was in Israel today and he talked about our hopes that this pause can be extended past tonight. Now, we'll have to see. It's always obviously very, very late there in the Middle East, so we'll have to see what shakes out over the morning hours. But we're hoping that this pause can be extended even further. And again, what we're talking about here, and for folks who really don't understand who follow this, when you talk about Hamas, that's different from the PLA. And you've got different different factions with the Palestinian people. That's right. That's right. I mean, one of the things that Secretary Blinken talked about today was we'd like to see a revitalized Palestinian authority that can help with governance on Gaza going forward.

Something that's reformed, that they've addressed, for instance, corruption issues. But but Hamas is separate from the Palestinian Authority. They have run Gaza since 2007, and they have not met the aspirations of the majority of the Palestinian people there in Gaza. They weren't very popular before October 7th because of the way that they had been trying to govern Gaza and in quite, quite frankly, a corrupt and cruel way. But this is also a terrorist group. And, you know, they had they delivered a series of very deadly, lethal attacks on the 7th of October that that obviously Israel has the right and responsibility to respond to. Lots of protests. A lot of people have been demanding more from this White House.

And we talk about a ceasefire. There are things that lead up to that. And so does the White House see this pause as a step, as a progression to potentially achieving that? What we see these pauses as really, and we would like to see them extended again past the week, really designed to do two things. Well, one, obviously stop the fighting, but that allows you to get humanitarian assistance in, which we've done, and it allows you to get hostages out, which we've also done. Now, we understand there's strong feelings on all sides here. The president recognizes that and he appreciates that, that people have very strong feelings about this conflict.

We don't believe that a ceasefire, and when we talk about a ceasefire versus a pause, there's a difference. When you use the word ceasefire, what we're talking about in that regard is some sort of laying down of arms in anticipation of an end to the hostilities, an end to the war. Usually it's the next step before you get into peace negotiations. And frankly, the Israelis, just they're not there yet. They still have a viable, vicious Hamas threat that they are trying to deal with. So we agree that now is not the time for a permanent ceasefire. That said, we have and continue to support these pauses, these humanitarian pauses. They're localized, they're time constrained. And as I said earlier, they're for discrete purposes, aid in, hostages out. But they have actually led to a reduction in the violence for sure over the course of the last week. And so we actually led to a reduction in the violence, for sure, over the course of the last week. And so we obviously want to see that continue.

But if you do a permanent ceasefire at this time, Roland, right now, if you just lay that on, basically that gives Hamas carte blanche here to regroup, resource themselves, refit, get ready to plan and execute more attacks. It also validates what they did on the 7th of October. It basically says, hey, that's okay. You can go into Israel and kill 1200 people and that's okay. You can have these genocidal interests for the Israeli nation and we're just going to look the other way. And we're just not at that stage right now. But the pressure that you're under and the polls reflect that, a significant number of young voters and others also talking about the thousands of Palestinians that have been killed, including children. And so that's what you also are facing.

And, you know, I'm hearing from people, African-Americans, who have made it clear. I mean, I'm seeing more people hashtag genocide Joe. I'm seeing all of that. And there are people who literally are saying this is a nonstarter, that this position against a ceasefire is putting a second term of the presidency of Joe Biden in peril. Again, Roland, we understand that there are strong feelings. And again, the president, he respects that. He understands that, that there's strong feelings. And again, the president, he respects that. He understands that, that there's strong feelings here on all sides. And what we would say is that the result that the approach that the president has taken has gotten results. It has actually led to assistance, food, water, medicine and fuel getting to people. It has led to people getting out, not just

hostages over the seven days, but in the preceding weeks, we were able to get more than 850 American citizens out. And we have had an impact on Israeli military operations. Now, I want to say right up front that too many thousands of innocent civilians have been killed and too many more thousands have been wounded. The right number of civilian casualties in Gaza is zero. And we have been constantly talking to our Israeli counterparts about being more discriminant, more cautious, more careful. And as I said, it has had an effect. For instance, when they went into Gaza on the ground, their original plans were for

a much larger force and a much more ham-fisted approach. We were able to, sharing our lessons learned from places like Fallujah and Mosul and the Iraq War and our experience in Afghanistan, were able to get them to modify the way they went into Gaza to be a little bit more careful, a little bit more deliberate, and civilian casualties were reduced. As a matter of fact, they opened up three corridors of people so people could move from the north to the south safely without getting themselves in harm's way. So, again, no civilian casualties should be accepted. We mourn and we grieve with all of them.

And, again, we understand the strong feeling there, which is why we're working so, so hard to make sure that Israel doesn't do anything in the future that would put innocent civilians in greater harm's way. As a matter of fact, Secretary Blinken in Israel said very quite clearly and plainly, we won't support a return to military operations after this pause. That doesn't include consideration by the Israelis for minimizing civilian casualties, not destroying or damaging civilian infrastructure like hospitals and energy infrastructure. And that also provides areas and venues that innocent civilians in the South in particular can go to and be safe and know that they're going to be safe. So we're not supporting future military operations by the IDF unless they can show the world that they have done that thinking.

And what Secretary Blinken said today was that when he when he made that case to our Israeli counterparts, that they agreed with that approach and that they're going to work in that vein. So, again, we're doing everything we can to keep the loss of life to a minimum. All right, John Kirby, we certainly appreciate you joining us on the show. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Roland. Appreciate it. Folks, going to go to break. We come back. We'll talk with our panel about what is happening in Israel and the tension situation that has significant impact on next presidential election. You're watching Roland Unfiltered here, the Black Star Network. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.

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You are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Stay right here. Dr. Greg Carr, Department of Afro-American Studies at Howard University. Thank you. smart for her to wear a Brooklyn Daughters hat because her Yankees suck. All right, let's get right to it. I'll start with you, Greg. You heard John Kirby there say they don't believe right now is the time for a ceasefire. These are indeed delicate negotiations, not just the United States, multiple other countries involved. This has political implications on 2024. Just your thought process on where we are with this Israel-Gaza battle, war. First of all, thank you, Roland. And I have to, at the onset, applaud your courage. And this is why independent media is so important. I mean, you have to speak truth to power. We saw what happened to Mehdi Hassan today at MSNBC, for example.

For simply speaking truth to power, I don't believe a word that comes out of the State Department or the federal government. The Biden administration is playing with fire and domestic policy, particularly the reelection campaign, because people are increasingly soured by this total defense of the Israeli defense forces and the government of Israel. Notice I didn't say the Jews, so to speak, and I didn't say Israel. I said the government of Israel, the Netanyahu government and the IDF. There are reports, wide reports now being reported that the IDF has an extensive map

of Gaza. They know about private residences, public buildings, high-rise blocks, and civilian infrastructure. They're engaged by reports. Some intelligence reports come out of Israel. They're engaged in the process of trying to create a shock, create a shock to drive the Palestinian people away from Hamas that they have been supporting all along to have a convenient enemy. At the same time, they're eager to resume the war. Now they're talking about bombing south, the south part of Gaza. Israel wants to get back in this war.

And the State Department's saying that Blinken is putting pressure and the State Department's putting pressure on Israeli defense force. I have no doubt that they are, but there's no evidence that that's going to be effective. The hostage swap that has been taking place so far, at a three-to-one rate, by the way, because nobody really talks a lot about the number of Palestinians who are in custody in Israel who are not Hamas, that swap, as these houses are being released, is delaying what Israel really seems to be their end game, which is to bomb the Palestinians into submission using the excuse that they're going after Hamas, a very legitimate reason, but not one that we have any evidence has been effective. In fact, quite finally, the contrary.

They're building ultimately ultimately, the types of resentments in this mass slaughter, what's been called a mass assassination factory. They're building the elements of Hamas Part 2 out of everyone who loses family members and folks who are harmed. So the State Department is under extreme pressure, and the other countries are definitely

involved as well. The point I made to John Risi about the impact on the poll numbers of President Biden, they are real. It's not just what you hear on social media. There were people talking about a lot of the conversations happening around Thanksgiving dinner table in terms of Muslim voters in this country, African-Americans, young people in this country. And so, as I said, you know, this puts into serious jeopardy the possibility of a second term for Biden-Harris.

It really does. I'm a person who's been very bullish on a second term until this conflict broke out. Now, I think it's a very serious problem, and I think that people who have concerns have legitimate concerns. The reality is that the administration has pivoted in terms of their rhetoric from what we saw right after the attack, and they have even pivoted on their actions and in the pressure that they're putting on Israel. But the other reality is that these numbers are probably as good as it gets should this conflict move on, because this, what we're seeing out of Gaza, has not even been weaponized yet. It is unconscionable and it is appalling on its face. It doesn't even need to be disseminated in a way to get people ginned up.

It's irrefutably horrible. And there are conversations that are happening, whispering conversations, because people don't feel necessarily comfortable saying it at the risk of losing their jobs or other situations. But this is a legitimate concern that people have. And being dismissive and talking about the lesser of two evils and what Trump is going to do is just not something that's going to resonate. The only thing that's going to resonate is for this administration to be effective in terms of pressuring Netanyahu. And if they can't do, they need to be honest as opposed to providing cover in the rhetoric to the actions of the IDF. So I think if they don't really take this seriously and the voters that they should be losing, because mind you, the voters that they're losing are not people who don't vote. They're losing people that have been voting for them all along, that they need to keep on the ship in addition to the people that they need to get off the sidelines, that did not vote in the midterm. So I'm concerned about this, not just for the political purposes,

but for the human carnage purposes. It's really appalling. And I think it's very easy to make a domestic policy case for Biden-Harris 2024, but it's going to be very challenging to make a case overall for people who draw a red line in what we're seeing in Israel and Gaza. Lauren. Yeah, you know what? I think that we're a country that unfortunately has a problem really focusing on things for very long. And even though I do think right now, certainly this is a really hot topic. I would be surprised if somewhere, you know, next year in in the middle of the summer, that we would still be focused on this. But for right now, yes, of course, it's a hot topic.

And I do think Biden has a huge political problem with this, to say the least. Not to mention the money piece here, which is that there's a lot of people bringing up that we have a lot of problems here in the United States that we never seem to figure out, never seem to get focused on. And we're sending billions and billions of dollars overseas. And, you know, obviously the argument would be that these things are valid to send X amount of money. But I do think that constituents, you know, these members of Congress hear from their constituents on a very bread and butter, very basic level when it comes to money. And when you hear repeatedly that there are certain things that can never get paid for in the United States, and then, you know, two weeks later, you hear the Congress is about to allocate billions of dollars to Ukraine and the Middle East, that that does not sit well with a

lot of constituents. That's another issue that's in there. I don't think that this is obviously it's not tenable to be talking about thousands of kids getting killed and losing their lives. And, you know, you're hearing these things about uprisings at the State Department on Capitol Hill and staff not being disgruntled about this. I mean, that these things cannot go on forever. I was a little surprised, frankly, to hear Mr. Kirby say that, you know, yeah, this is a pause, but we really don't, we can't really have a pause for long. We're not really interested that much in a ceasefire. We're going to go back to what we were doing. I'm not sure that they can, you know, continue with that for very much longer. Look, it is absolutely challenging. Also remind people, 1991, Greg, George W. Bush had a 91%—George H.W. Bush had a 91% approval rating after the Iraq War.

One year later, he was packing. Absolutely. Well, you know, it's funny, and, Lauren, you're absolutely right about the short-term and long-term memory of people here in the country. It'll be interesting to see. And I think the reason that he said that, the reason Kirby said that is because that's what the Israelis are saying. They are chomping to get back at the bombing. And the State Department, the Biden administration knows that. They're trying their best, but at the same time, they're kicking those Israelis like, what the hell is wrong with y'all? The economies in the surrounding

region are being, you know, kind of destabilized. The Israeli economy has been destabilized. You're calling tens of thousands of people reservists into open war now in the military, and you're not backfilling them and everything from grocery stores to farms. In fact, Malawi just announced that they've struck a deal with the Israelis to send Malawian workers to Israel because those people are no longer in the field to do the farming. But I'm raising all that as a prelude to what you just raised, Romy. You know, in a moment, this whole thing could disappear in terms of memory. Today, we just saw Henry Kissinger finally go in at 100 years old, and we are all, although, you know, in the case of Recy probably, maybe, and Lauren, maybe just barely, remember, I

know I was a kid, too, as you, Roland, but we remember Henry Kissinger's crimes. This guy has been called an international war criminal. But when I asked my students, do y'all know who Henry Kissinger is, not one of them put their hands up. We had to walk through the history of not only Vietnam and Laos, but what happened in Angola and all of the crimes that the Kissinger, under several presidents, advisor up to and through the current president, Biden, going to see Xi Jinping, dealing with China, what happened with the Khmer Rouge and all that. They knew nothing about it. So I can't agree more, Lauren. This time next year,

when we're right in the wake of a presidential election, who knows what impact this will have. But the challenge isn't just them bombing, isn't just there no end game in terms of what they're trying to do in Gaza and West Bank. The challenge is the repercussions of what they do whenever this stops that will continue to echo up to and through the presidential election cycle. And none of us can predict those consequences. And when we look at that, Recy, when we begin to understand that, we also are dealing with an election where, sure, Trump is leading, but he's not the nominee. A year from now, 11 months from now, 10 months from now, it becomes very clear.

It will be like it will be, barring something happening to one or both of them, it will be Biden-Trump. Then people are going to have to make a decision. Do they vote for Biden? Do they vote for Trump? Do they vote third party or do they sit out? And then sitting out has its own implications. Right. I mean, look, a lot can change between now and 2024 for the better, for the worse. I would not bank on people having short memories because as I have been sounding the alarm for many, many years, there is this thing called weaponized information, disinformation and misinformation.

I saw as a Kamala Harris supporter the way this falsehood about truancy was weaponized to destroy Vice President Kamala Harris's presidential campaign, the falsehoods about her locking up Black people for weed. And so if you can take things that didn't happen and weaponize them to be harmful towards a candidate, then you can certainly take things like what we're seeing right now in Gaza and weaponize those to be catastrophic. And so I think people should not underestimate how this, what we've seen can be weaponized in a way that will be very harmful to Democrats.

And it will not matter that the Republicans would not have made a different decision. It does not matter that there's no daylight in between those two parties for the most part on this issue because the Democrats are not going to be weaponizing this information against Republicans. It'll be the Republicans weaponizing the information against Democrats. So I think that people should really take this seriously. And no, I'm not saying support Donald Trump. And no, I'm not encouraging people to support the Republicans. What I'm saying is be fucking for real and understand that there are people that are not okay with what we're seeing. And how do you reach those people? Part of the way you reach them

is to get the administration to course correct, not just on their rhetoric, but on their actions and where the actions cannot align with rhetoric, they need to course correct and not just parrot what Netanyahu and the IDF is saying. The sooner that they get some independence between IDF's and Netanyahu's talking points and their own talking points, the better it will be for the administration

and by extension, the country, because we cannot afford a Trump or even DeSantis, Haley, whoever the hell, administration in 2024. So they have to really face the reality here. And it's not pretty. Lauren, final comment. Well, my final comment is, you know, one way this does go into next year politically is that AIPAC has targeted six members of the of Congress, not all members of the CBC because one of them is AOC. But Summer Lee and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar are targeted by AIPAC. That's one way that this becomes a

discussion in next year's politics, particularly when we're dealing with a situation where the Democrats are trying to win the House. Obviously, these would be primaries, so the primary candidate would likely be the ultimate winner, any Democrat. Still, there's a discussion to be had, a political discussion, as to how the Middle Eastern politics affect domestic politics here at home, and that's one of the discussions.

And it's been interesting, quite frankly, to notice that the Congressional Black Caucus has been very silent about the fact that AIPAC is targeting five of their members. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek.

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are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Alright, folks, so how many times have I told y'all how mainstream networks work and how these media enablers around them work? So last week I had Mark Fisher on the show who used to be involved with the Black Lives Matter chapter in Rhode Island. That's not affiliated with the actual Black Lives Matter network.

And at the end of the day, he couldn't answer a damn thing. But he goes on Fox News, they have him on Fox News. Lawrence B. Jones interviews him. It's an absolute joke. But then New York Post picks it up. Mediaite, which covers the media site Post picks it up Mediaite which covers the media type picks it up and so all of a sudden then other folks start writing the story now understand Mediaite didn't do a write up on our segment

they had a three and a half minute segment on Fox we had about 36 minutes, about 36 minutes On this show, they didn't write that up They love writing up these other Segments, they love talking about what's on Fox News And CNN and whatever Megyn Kelly Has to say, but they rarely Actually do

Black owned media, but I want y'all To see the difference when we talk about When And how Mainstream media does these stories when you definitely don't see any sort of fact checking. So just just watch this for a second. Yeah, go ahead, pull it up. Now, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter, Rhode Island, Mark Fisher. Mark, thanks so much for joining the program. You know, this is my favorite story of the day because it identifies with what I've seen in the barbershop.

All the brothers, for some reason right now, are turning tides right now. And I just wonder, what is the big reason? Now to this. Let's freeze right there. First of all, everybody knows that all the brothers Lawrence ain't turning no tide. So let's just go ahead and which barbershop you go to? Let's be for real. I mean, you like Phillip in Indianapolis? Who didn't live

in Indianapolis, but lived in one of them suburbs? Come on, come on, Lawrence. Let's be real here, Lawrence. Which barbershop you actually go to? Please, Lawrence, by all means, let us know that black barbershop. But let me go ahead and play. Let me go ahead and play a little bit more. It looks like I had taken it out. I'm going to play a little bit more because, again,

I just get a kick out of how all of a sudden because also, by the way, Trump was excited and happy with this so-called endorsement, if you will, from Mark Fisher. But these are the same folks who hate Black Lives Matter. So they're now touting a black individual who was involved in the Rhode Island chapter

Black Lives Matter, but they hate Black Lives Matter, but they hate Black Lives Matter, but now they're trying to actually weaponize Black Lives Matter in their favor because they think it's actually going to do them some good. All right, go ahead. Let's see. Play it. Go. Give me one second. This thing is acting up here. Give me one second. Let me pull this thing up. Because, like I said, I saw this segment, and I've been laughing ever since. Let's see.

You should be able to have it now. Go ahead and go to it. Let's see. Joining us now, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter Road Island, Mark Fisher. Mark, thanks so much for joining the program. This is my favorite story of the day because it identifies with what I've seen in the barbershop. All the brothers

for some reason right now are turning tides right now. I just wonder, what is the big reason? I think personally it's the duplicity of the Democrats. The hypocrisy. We're not stupid. The brothers are not stupid.

We understand when someone's for us and when someone is not. And it's obvious that the Democratic Party is not for us. Yeah, I keep hearing... Their policies actually strike at the heart of the black family and the nuclear family. Yeah, so, you know,

you were a part of Black Lives Matter. You founded it there. And now you're saying... You're not saying the entire Republican Party. You're saying Donald Trump. So what is it about Donald Trump? Is it the economics? You noted the black family. What is it going to take for him to sure up this support amongst black voters?

Well, I just think that it's going to take information. A lot of people are misinformed. They don't really understand because they don't educate themselves on Donald Trump as a person and his history. But if they do that and it's going to take, you know, leaders, educated leaders getting the word out there, I think that it'll happen on its own and it'll be organic because personally, I love the man. I mean, how could you not like a real man? How could you not relate to someone like that? Yeah.

Okay. So let me pause that right here. Okay. So you heard Mark say that. Now, he said, oh, educated on all the issues. Y'all, he spent 36 minutes on this show. Couldn't answer a damn question. Literally could not provide any facts whatsoever.

He talked about how Donald Trump dumped black people and was absolutely wrong. Was wrong. Was absolutely wrong. But see, again, I need y'all to understand what Fox News and what the GOP wants to do. They're going to try to prop up him. And I'm calling it right now. Don't be shocked if you see Mark Fisher speaking at a Trump rally. And so when he says that we are susceptible to misinformation,

no, that's actually what he's doing. Like, he literally came on this show and was lying. And I was, like, busting up the lie and was saying, say, man, that was utter nonsense. And you see what he does when he goes on Fox News. And, again, Lawrence Jones ain't going to sit here and truly question him with facts. Lawrence is going to sit there and play the same okie-dokie game and advance these lives. Oh, what he's done, how amazing he's been.

Okay, it's all about the men left with us. Go back to this. On its own, it'll be organic because personally, I love the man. I mean, how could you not like a real man? How could you not relate to someone like that? Yeah, he watches every morning. So I'm sure he's cheering as you're saying this. We looked at some of the polls for Trump over Biden in the battleground state.

In 2020, it was 8%. Now in 2023, he has 22%. And that's just not black men. So the election is right around the corner. If you had the opportunity to talk to the former president, I'm sure he's watching right now, what would you tell him? Call me. I'm my cell phone man. I'll stop for Trump.

Mark, I'm fascinated by you Why did you end up leaving Black Lives Matter or are you still affiliated with it? No, no, no I'm still affiliated with it All day, because the thing about it is My message that I preach And that I tout is unity

It's a message of unity, it's unity driven I want to bring together all the marginalized groups Okay, alright, so Enough of that nonsense. So this is what I need people to understand. I need y'all to always to recognize the grifting game when you see it. When Mark finished this show, my producer walked him downstairs and they were going back and forth and she literally said, do you believe the stuff that you're saying? And he said, no. He said, we got to shake this thing up.

See, what I need y'all to understand is some other black folks just like him and some of y'all listen to them with their little YouTube channels and this is what they say, we got to shake this thing up. This was a three and a half minute interview did y'all hear one policy that was brought up it's all here one thing that's but no it was ooh Trump a strong man we need somebody strong and and I love the guy that's what what they do. So what they do is. And yeah, there are some other black men and I've heard them. Yeah, man.

Trump, when you say he going to do something, he do it. Yeah. Like grab a woman by her vagina. Like lead domestic terrorists on January 6th. And then when you fall for the okey-doke and the lies, such as he fully funded HBCUs when he didn't, when you got black people running around talking about, yeah, man, our pockets were full when Trump was president, COVID money, PPP, other stimulus money. And let's be real clear. If you are not in top 1%, you did not benefit from that Trump $1.8 trillion tax cut. And my issue is not with somebody black voting Republican. There are other black people who I know who vote Republican.

But what I'm not going to do is let you just lie and make stuff up and then try to act like we are the ones who are stupid. Go back to my panel here. The reality, Reesey, we know the game that folks play. And as I said, you didn't hear a single policy brought up in that whole conversation. All you heard was a bunch of mumbo jumbo and Lawrence B. Jones fanning out because a black dude from Rhode Island who is affiliated with Black Lives Matter chapter there all of a sudden said he'd love him some Donald Trump. Yeah, I mean, he's auditioning for maybe HUD secretary under Trump 2024 because obviously Trump doesn't feel like you need to be qualified to be in that position as long as you're black. I mean, it's really ridiculous and absurd to try to paint a person who is facing 91 counts on multiple state and federal local charges as a person of character is absurd. Um, we've seen how Donald Trump has acted reprehensibly for decades now. Like, this is just straight-up bullshit.

And he's just, um, being a buffoon and a blackface, black foot soldier of white supremacy, hoping to get a check out of it, but it don't seem to be upgraded too much. His background ain't looking any better. He ain't got a better camera, better wardrobe, nothing, Chad. If you grifting, you still in

stage A of grifting. You need to be getting a little bit more money up front before you sell this much of your soul, homeboy, because we ain't buying it, and Republicans ain't buying it with enough money. The thing here, Lauren, is you look at some of these other people, that fool Officer Tatum,

he's been running for me for years. Candace Owens has been running for years as well. Again, the people who don't know, it's easy to be duped by these dupes. But when you sit here and walk them down and you walk them through the facts, they can't answer any of the questions. So what they do is they try to be loud. They try to throw out bumper sticker phrases and they try to go with the plantation language and thinking that's what's going to sit here and push somebody back. And I'm like, now we're not going to fall for it.

And I've had other people, Lauren, say, man, I don't know why you had them on. I said, because you have to expose stupidity so people then understand what the real game is. Yeah, I really think that when we look at these people, you know, obviously we're going to have several episodes. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin.

And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.

This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott.

And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.

Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Caramouch.

What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. So to this, we already had the sexy red episode. Now we're having the Mark Fisher episode. I'm sure we'll have some rap star that the Republicans, we had the Kanye West last cycle. Oh, Kanye West is running for president. I mean, and this all comes from the fact, unfortunately, that the powers that be in right wing media think black people are stupid. That's what this really is. They think black people are stupid. That's what this really is. They think black people are stupid. They think if you throw a rapper in front of us and the rapper tells us

to do something, you know, we're going to do it. And there's absolutely no evidence of any of that. There's no evidence whatsoever. The two biggest, most loyal voting blocs of the Democratic Party currently are black women followed by black men. It's been that way cycle after cycle, and it will be that way again next year. The question will be what the level of intensity of that turnout will be. But this idea that you're going to throw a rapper out there, an actor, a Hollywood star, something like that, and then all the black people are going to be, you know, foolish, that's crazy. And of course, Fox News leads the pack at this idea that, you know, you can throw some guy on. Remember, none of these people are validators, are people who African-Americans trust or care about.

OK, nobody is looking at Fox News and believing anyone who says that they're hearing this in a barbershop, that everybody's going for Donald Trump. That is craziness. But of course they're going to try to throw that out. These people are not validators. Nobody cares what they say. Nobody cares who Mark Fisher is. You know, and so that's the reality of it. The numbers will reflect that next November. And the question will be, will these third-party candidates get enough support to shave off enough support to make things closer than they probably should be? Of course, remembering, of course, that Joe Biden won by 8 million votes last time. But you got to remember, too, that this is all an outgrowth of the fact that we have gone now 20 years. 2024 will mark 20 years that the Republican Party has not won the popular vote.

They know that. And that's why we're playing these games of rolling idiots out that nobody has ever heard of to say that black people are going to support Donald Trump. And, you know, as I said, there's no evidence. And, you know, Fox News loves their black flunkies. They love their Leo Terrells. They love their Jason Whitlock. And once again, these people are clowns. I think they're regarded as clowns for the most part in the black voting community. There is no evidence that they have any influence. Greg, what would also so funny to me is that it always cracks me up that when one of these

utterly confused Negroes, when you talk to them, they always go, I'm a free thinker, as if the rest of us don't think. I'm an independent thinker. Well, so are we. We just actually think. Absolutely.

I mean, you really said it all, Roland, when you framed this by saying that when your producer walked him downstairs, he said he didn't believe it. This is a hack. This is a rented person. And it does belie logic. But we're not talking about logic here. I mean, let's sit here and think about this. On the 30th of November, 2023, we're actually talking about Donald Trump potentially being returned to the White House. That should tell you the state of affairs in this country. Argentina just elected a purebred fool to be the president of Argentina. So it isn't just an American malaise. But what we're seeing here, there are a lot of moving parts. I agree with Cliff, Cliff Albright. And, you know, Cliff is a staple on this network. You all talk extensively, Cliff and Latosha. And Cliff's like, you know, just like we heard a minute ago, Lauren, in the earlier segment.

You know, let's just wait until this time next year before you start polling people about this, because I suspect the answer will be a little different. But if we're trying to read tea leaves, when Koch is now backing Nikki Haley, they—I mean, the people who are looking at this are betting that Donald Trump may not be the candidate. Nikki Haley propping Nikki Haley up, will that be enough to save the white announcers? It might be. But Donald Trump just announcing that if he's reelected, he's going to dismantle Obamacare. In the same week, I think, Friday, I think, Roy Cooper's going to sign North Carolina, sign a legislation expanding Obamacare to the 40th state in the union. The Republicans are like, this guy got to shut up. On that side, they are desperate

trying to stop Trump, trying to prop up Nikki Haley. I mean, hell, and then tonight, I think it's later tonight, the DeSantis and Newsom-Smopey are debating in Alpharetta, Georgia. I mean, right now, this is cacophony. But at the center of it is a white nationalist fascist who is, if he is reelected, promising to lock people up by the millions in cages, to deport people by the millions, to destroy Obamacare.

And meanwhile, you got people like this, brother, coming on this platform, going on Fox because somebody gave him a couple of nickels or the promise of a penny more, like Recy said, to put out whatever shill he needs to put out because he, unlike the millions who will be harmed if these white masses get back into power, he, unlike them, will have his 30 pieces of silver. He should not only be dismantled. Now, in with this. By facts, by consistently drumming out the facts and keep hammering at the facts, keep hammering at the facts. But at some point, we've got to do what you've been doing all along, which, by the way, as you're making the point, mass commercial media is trying to give itself credit for it.

If you weren't calling Donald Trump a liar from jump, I saw Lawrence O'Donnell yesterday saying they were the first news platform to do that. And I'm saying, dude, come on, y'all still running that? But in addition to hammering the facts, we've got to now understand this is a pure propaganda war and we got to treat it like a propaganda war and stop acting like these people are talking about the truth when they say themselves they don't believe it. Yep. Again, you counter the propaganda with actual truth and you decimate them. See, I love the last point I'm going to make here before I go to break.

Like, I love some of these so-called conscious Negroes out there on social media who go, yeah, well, you were debating that white supremacist, Richard Spencer, you didn't go at him like you go at some black people. And my response to them always is, you're a perfect example of someone who has, one, no relevance, two, doesn't understand what the purpose was. See, what all these people forget is the New York Times and the Washington Post had done these stories that I thought were frankly insulting on Richard Spencer, talking about the clothes that he wore

and him going to a private school in Dallas and his whole sort, it was like this nice sheen over his white supremacy. And that's when I said, book him on the show. I need to expose the idiot. And it was after he came on my TV One show and I exposed the idiot, when all the pieces for him began to crumble, then it got so bad the boy had to move to Montana or somewhere with his mama because he got sued by everybody, lost everything, got kicked out.

And he was, he damn near became a Democrat. He would, because he just sued by everybody, lost everything, got kicked out, and he damn near became a Democrat because he just lost everything. And so what I keep trying to explain to people, you can't run from these loudmouths. You must run to them and expose them. That's why Fox News will never call me. And I've emailed their producers because they like now we put that one on. See, they love loud. They love loud, loud and crazy. They love that. OK, but as some folk, they're not going to call. They were like, yeah, we're going to leave that one alone.

And so I need our people to understand what the game is, because we're going to see a lot more people like Mark Fisher over the next year. And guess what? We're going to take them apart one by one. Speaking of taking apart, coming up next, why is a white elected official in Baton Rouge, Louisiana targeting a black-owned restaurant? Is that what your job is supposed to be? I keep telling y'all, voting matters. You're watching Roller Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network YouTube, folks. Hit that like button, y'all. We should easily be over 1,000 likes after the first hour of the show. Also, support us by joining our Bring the Funk fan club.

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Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing.

So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.

From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way.

In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.

Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote.

Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. really does It makes it real Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season 2

On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content Subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts Mark, now Filter.com will be right back Apple Podcasts. You will not regret that. White people are losing their damn lives. There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history.

Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at every university calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because

of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white people. Hello, we're the Critter Fixers. I'm Dr. Bernard Hodges. And I'm Dr. Terrence Ferguson. And you're tuning in to... Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, sit at home and let the wrong people get elected. That's what happens when you sit on your ass.

Well, the other day, Gary Chambers posted this about a Baton Rouge, Louisiana restaurant being targeted by Denise Amoroso, the District 8 City Councilwoman in Baton Rouge, allegedly working with residents to shut down Ball in the Rue, a black-owned restaurant. Check this out. Now, for all the people who like to brunch but don't like to vote, let me show you how people are actively working to shut down what you enjoy because people like you don't vote. I'm looking to get Maurice Walker shut down off of a code violation. This is Denise Amoroso. She's a city councilwoman here in Baton Rouge who held a community meeting after this group of people lost in court trying to shut down this black business.

They are now going to try to weaponize the government to shut down this black business, spearheaded by her using a parish attorney. Let me show you. We've communicated that to VRPD to tell them to enforce any laws, whether it's parking, noise, murder, whatever it may be. OK, they have absolutely the right to go ahead and enforce the laws at that time, at that place. I don't think they honestly care, okay? And they're not doing their job. And I can't force them to do their job.

The only person that can force the police to do their job is the mayor and president through Murphy Hall. And we've all seen what that has been. And I'm just being honest. I'm just airing dirty laundry out of the city. This is Paolo Messina. He's the man who's talking in the video on the phone with the city councilwoman who's at the meeting. And he's a parish attorney for the city of Baton Rouge. He's trash talking to black mayor, trash talking to black chief of police, saying the police department ain't going to do their job. And he's saying what he is going to do with his power as a parish attorney to help the city council member shut this black business down,

even after they already lost in court and had it thrown out because they aren't making violations. They're just annoying their neighbors. We will build the case brick by brick. First one is to get the board to respond. If the board doesn't respond in the way that I want them to, I have another step that I can take. But assuming that the board does revoke them or suspend them until they've come into compliance, then what will happen is I will take that order from the board. I will forward it to BRPD and tell them they are now required to do that. If they don't do that, I have a couple of other things, options at my disposal.

One is to bring the sheriff involved, okay, to bring the sheriff in. Second is I will have the ABC agents go out there and shut them down, okay? Okay. Third thing is, I can't really tell you what the third thing is, but it's pretty significant about what we would be doing and it would not be pretty. So let me break it down for the people who don't vote. So Denise, the city councilwoman, called the lawyer, Paolo, on the phone with the people in the room, and they came up with a strategy to shut down your ability to go to Boiling Rue and have brunch on Sunday. And for people who don't vote and don't pay attention to elections, this is how the government impacts your life and the quality of your life, just because you want to go into a community and enjoy Sunday brunch. It is that deep, that serious. And there's a meeting on December the 7th at the ABC board here in Baton Rouge, where you can come and let Denise see you and let her know that

you don't take too kindly to her having a meeting with Paolo and people in the community trying to stop black people from just enjoying a restaurant in the city of Baton Rouge. Y'all go vote here because it does impact your life. Well, the owner of Boyle & Rue, Maurice Walker, and advocate Eugene Collins, who exposed his alleged plot, join us right now. Glad to have you. First off, we reached out to Denise Amoroso for a comment,

but she did not respond to our email. Maurice, what the hell y'all doing to these people? Man, we just trying to sell good food in the city of Baton Rouge, man. We just trying to make an honest living. That's it.

That's all we're doing. When did all of this start? And was there something that started this? So, Mr. Martin, when we first encountered this issue, Mr. Martin, Mr. Walker, me about, I would say, three years ago at this point and said that there was some type of recording device that was pointed at their restaurant. At that time, I came out.

I brought a private investigator that I sometimes work with to look at the device to tell me what it is. And this device was pointed directly at the restaurant. So the complaints that we believed at that point that were being lodged were coming from this device that we believe has some sort of amplifier in it. Let's just be clear, Mr. Martin. They don't want this business on this side of town. This is a major corridor in a majority white district, and they have done things time and time again to try to push this restaurant out of this district.

And that's something that as long as Mr. Walker, and I know he's willing to fight, is willing to fight, we're going to continue to push against this. So, Maurice, how long have y'all been there? We've been here nine years, going on ten years. We'll make ten years february uh actually super bowl super bowl sunday is when we opened up nine years ago and y'all have it it's not like y'all y'all had code violations and people you ain't like you've had you ain't had shootings folks coming out there fights breaking out none None of that. None of that stuff. So, are they angry

with that? And what's your clientele? Is it largely African American? Is it mixed? It's largely African Americans. At the time, it is mixed. Again, I mean, it shouldn't go this far, man.

Mr. Murrow, it should not go this far at all. Well, this sounds very much like what the Turkey Leg Hut went through in Houston. Exact same thing. They're on the Alameda Quarter. The neighbors there, they were sitting here conspiring. They took them to court. They complained about

the smoke. They complained about the traffic. They complained about the music. It was one thing after another. And it wasn't until they got their hands on an email chain, which they shared with us from the neighbors, where they literally were talking about plotting to get catch to do something wrong to get them taken out. I mean, so here but here's the problem here. Here you have a city official. And this guy who was on the recording, he's a city attorney, right?

Correct. So a city attorney who's being paid by taxpayers like you is sitting there talking about how they are plotting to take you out of business. Mr. Martin, on top of that, not only was he plotting to take you out of business. Yes, sir. And Mr. Martin, you know, on top of that,

not only was he plotting to take Ballaroo out of business, but he's down talking our mayor and our police chief. And our police chief has been one of the most progressive chiefs in this country. So that's a stab at some of the progressive things that we've seen happen within BRPD. Now, we know we've got some things to fix there, but that's a stab at that system as well. So he was taking multiple stabs at various systems, as well

as continuing to pile on top of this restaurant. In addition to that, you asked about code violations, Mr. Martin. One thing they're going to cite is a code violation for not having a permit on Cinco de Mayo that this council person actually approved very late in the day to the point that

Mr. Walker did not have time to pick up that permit. Then that same council person allegedly sent the ABC board agents that night to the restaurant, knowing that Mr. Walker didn't have time to retrieve that permit to have it on site. They've just tried trick after trick after trick to seemingly target this business. And it's not only a great restaurant. This has been a good community partner. Last year with apartment complex burned down, this restaurant brought those families into this restaurant and gave them toys, gave them gifts, made sure that they had apartments. In addition, when we were really being ran over with murders here locally, this restaurant actually pulled together multiple groups to do a toy drive together,

multi-platinum recording artists together who were having some beef amongst each other. They pulled those groups together and actually got them to squash their beef. So they've not only been a good restaurant, they've been a great community partner to the African-American community here in Baton Rouge. How has the community responded since this went public? So, you know, initially when we released the initial video of the Black Lives Matter mural, which really, let's get down to the crux of it. That's where this restaurant began to have problems when they painted a Black

Lives Matter mural in their parking lot. And that's when the neighbors started to have complaints. That's when this council person actually came to this restaurant and asked the ownership group at that time exactly what was they trying to, hoping to accomplish by putting this mural in the parking lot, and she thought that that mural was divisive and that it would attract negative things and different groups on opposing

sides to have negative reactions to it, right? That's where this issue started, right there with that mural being painted in this issue started, right there with that mural being painted in this parking lot, and that was posted to a local community platform here, Getaways, and that's where the issue actually originated from,

this restaurant painting a Black Lives Matter mural in their parking lot. Questions from our panel? Recy, you first. Yes. First of all, I want say um your establishment sounds wonderful can you talk a little bit about i saw some coverage about um there are white establishments or i guess just say non-black establishments in the vicinity that also have noise um or music and

other things can you talk about the discrepancy between how those businesses have been treated as opposed to yours? Roughly, we can say I have a restaurant that is less than half a mile away from me also that does live music every Friday and Saturday. And I never hear any complaints from the neighbors that are right there. Also, we're all in the same community. So, again, we are just being targeted for what we are doing with nothing different that any other restaurant in the area is doing. And again, I still don't understand this to this day. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.

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but I don't know. Have you checked that? So at this point, we brought on a civil rights attorney, Ronald Haley, to actually look at the legal aspects here, right? Because not only are we looking at what the council person did, but we also got to think about the alcohol beverage board as well, the ABC board here locally and how they've used those agents basically as a goon squad to come in and intimidate the threshold. Let me explain this here as with family of the catering business, my brother.

So to the people out there watching and listening, do understand liquor licenses are hard to come by. Extremely hard. Also, if you've got a business, frankly, a liquor license is extremely profitable. And so what has happened across the country? They've attacked restaurants by going after the liquor license because that has to be approved by the state.

So a lot of places, you lose your liquor license, you lose your biggest revenue generator. And so folks just need to understand how they target folks by using bureaucracy against individuals like yourself. And in addition to that, Mr. Martin, you know, this restaurant is not serving liquor to underage folks, right? They're trying to find other small issues to attack, to tie it to having the ability to take their liquor license, knowing that that's their biggest revenue generator. And if you're able to take this restaurant's liquor license,

essentially they cannot continue to exist in this site for much longer. And, Mr. Martin, you're spot on. That's how they're attacking black restaurants here locally, by just tackling the issue around their liquor license and trying to take those licenses, making sure that they don't have the ability to have the largest revenue generated in their restaurant, knowing that you, brothers Walker and Collins. Listen to this. Reminds me of that line from Yassine Bey in his song Mr. N-word. If white boy's doing it, well, it's success. When I start doing it, well, it's suspect. And I'm wondering, I have a question as it relates to Baton Rouge and the politics of Baton Rouge and where the restaurant is located.

It's been a while since I've been down there visiting friends and down there at Southern University of Baton Rouge, and where the restaurant is located. It's been a while since I've been down there visiting friends down there at Southern University, Baton Rouge. So are you on the LSU side of town? Are they bothering the white boys that have their restaurants? And last I heard, I think an LSU graduate is Paulo Messina, who went to law school at LSU. Word is that he resigned about a week and a half ago from his position. I don't know. Could you answer, you know, what are the

politics of geography, where you're located, and are they messing with you and not messing with the white boys around there? Is it an LSU crowd that they're afraid of you're going to get some of this business from? So it's not necessarily an LSU crowd. Where the restaurant is actually situated, it's a little bit from LSU.

It's on the southern side of Southern actually situated, it's a little bit from LSU. It's on the southern side of Southern University. It's not really a collegiate crowd. You're talking about Ballaroos crowd mostly being young black professionals. And that's what they're scared of. What about Messina? Did he resign? I read something, I think,

on 21st, he left his position. So, we saw that they printed that he resigned, but every source that we talked to said that he was terminated. So, we're unsure about what to believe. Alright, well, gentlemen, certainly keep us abreast

of what's going on down there and the next time I'm going through Baton Rouge. So, what y'all got in the menu? Y'all got boudin, y'all Baton Rouge. What y'all got on the menu? Y'all got boudin, y'all got gumbo. What y'all got? Yeah, we have boudin, we have gumbo. I'm glad you touched on those two subjects.

We have red beans and rice. We have etouffee, fried catfish, grilled, fried. I mean, however you like it. I mean, actually, it's a Southern coffee food. I'm a scratch kitchen. So, again, we pride ourselves on quality in our foods that we make here in Baton Rouge.

All right. I mean, hey, when you come down, Mr. Martin, I got you, man. Trust me. Some of the best turkey wings you're ever going to taste, Mr. Martin. You said the best turkey what? The best turkey wing you're ever going to taste. All right. Now, y'all got to compete with Turkey Leg Hut in Houston.

Now, I'm from H-Town, and my grandparents are in Opelousa, Louisiana. So I'll taste test that gumbo for myself and see what it's like. Oh, you know good food then. You know good food. Oh, no. I know good food with brothers and executive chef and a dad and executive chef. So absolutely. All right, gentlemen.

Keep us abreast. Thanks a lot. Yes, sir. Thanks again, folks. Going to break. We come back. Black man suing Dallas police for a shooting. We'll also tell you a black family in Fort Worth, Texas, has settled with the city over the shooting death of Artiana Jefferson. We'll talk about that. And ooh Lord, Republicans are losing they damn mind on Capitol Hill. One, they walk out of a judiciary committee hearing and they going ham on George Santos.

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damn, we got to charge his ass for something. Cooley's Food Mart or Barbecue. Yeah, the barbecue spot, yeah. So we were sitting at the church, we were just gonna start doing traffic. She's running plates. Okay. I'm like, hey, run that Hyundai. So she runs it and she was like, let's look at the registered owner or whatever. So she does, she goes to AIS and that's a cross reference and it pops up red.

So she's like, okay. She kind of looks at it, but by that time we had already lost them. We had already gone into like the Family Dollar parking lot or whatever. The Family Dollar parking lot. So then as she's searching, she finds out that the name that she put on there, whatever, was on AIS, had continuous family violence, you know, warrant. So then we get behind them up here because we see the car moving on Illinois. So we catch up to it and we get up here to Southern Oaks. And he tells the signal within 100 feet from the stop sign here in Southern Oaks and Overton.

And as soon as he came up here, you know, we obviously pulled him over. So he got the reason for contact. Yeah. So I pulled up to the car and I'm like, hey man, look. You know, you got pulled over for this, this, and this. And he was like, well, that's not fair because you were watching me from the other side. I was like, yeah, we were on the other side of the light when you were crossing. So obviously, you know what I mean? Yeah.

So then I was just like, do you have your ID with you? And so he gives it to me and obviously I hand it over to her and she's like, Sylvester Hayes. Like, that's the name that was on the warrant. So you got a good warrant. Well, there's I guess a lot of. He does have tickets.

He does have the tickets. So when I'm like, hey, bro. So in order for us to in order for us to be able to fully investigate, like because he was already acting weird. So I'm like, hey, bro, like he's already giving him trouble. I'm like, can you just step out of the car please let's go to the back of the car and at that point he was like for what for what and i'm like bro come on man and so that's whenever reggie pulled up and we tried to get him out of the car and the fight was on okay and then i was like so you got a jail traffic resistance risk right yeah we have uh fell to 700 feet and then he has tickets.

He had a gun in his pocket because he kept going like this. That's why he was often so crazy. Okay, because he had a gun. He had a pistol in his freaking pocket. And at that point, whenever we were trying to get him out of the car, Whitman was on the other side. He was like, gun, gun, gun, right pocket, gun. Yeah.

Is he a felon? He has not been convicted. Or no felon. a felon uh he has not been convicted or no felon no felon we have like some of ucw resisting resistant okay resisting because well that i don't know if we were going to be able to put the resistance because you can't resist the tension you can get him out of the car, but I mean, if the fight is on. So who was on the driver's side? I was. So he was listening to your commands at the time, right? No, he was not. As soon as I said, yeah, I had to open the door when I was like, hey, come on. Because Whitman saw the gun. Well, he saw the gun while we were trying to get him out of the car.

So you got, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. car. So when he was sitting down and we were like me and Reggie and who else was next to him, we're trying to pull him out of the car. That's whenever women was trying to push him out. He was like, gun, gun, gun, right pocket, gun, right pocket. But based on your investigation, you have probable cause of stopping because you got, y'all looked at his name in the picture earlier. You could identify him? We couldn't see it in the car. So we have a traffic violation. You have a traffic violation.

Yeah. Because of reasons for contact. Oh, man. They're trying to figure it all out. We've seen this before, but y'all still got it wrong. Sylvester, glad to have you here. Gabe Reed, a senior litigation consultant for the rule law group as well uh thank you so very much uh so uh sylvester obviously that was

not a great experience to have to go through not at all not at all man uh it was it was crazy i remember like yesterday, man. And to sit here and to watch that tape and hear the cops trying to figure out what in all he was just, you know, he was all upset. Yeah, you upset because you're getting pulled over. And then you're upset you're getting yanked out of the car.

Exactly, man. It's like, you know, I did everything. They pulled me over. They asked for my ID and everything, but I don't think the video kind of showed it. They pulled me over, asked for my ID. I give it to them and they didn't even, you know, walk back to the squad car and put my, you know, run my name through the police database before they started pulling me out the vehicle. So that's why I'm like, what's going on? Cause I know my, I know my record clean.

I know my name, I know my background is clean and everything. So for me to give them my ID and everything they asked for and they start, you know, aggressively opening up my door and trying to pull me out. I'm like, Hey, what's going on? What's going on? You know, and all I could think about was my babies.

I'm just trying to go get something to eat for my kids. You know? Absolutely crazy. Gabe, I'm sorry, I thought Gabe was with us. What is, have you heard from the city? What are they saying?

Was there an apology from anybody? No, I still haven't heard from them. They haven't reached out to me or said anything about, you know, the whole situation, even though they have on video that their officer is saying, like, you know, fuck, we have the wrong guy. Excuse my language. It's all good. The show's called Unfiltered. Don't worry about it. But, yeah, they're like, fuck, we have the wrong guy. And even after that, they don't show any sympathy towards me or try to make things right.

Even though after they put their knees and everything else they can think of in my neck, there's no way to make that right. But they didn't show any type of sympathy to kind of lighten the load on me. Wow, absolutely crazy there. Lawsuits have already been filed. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And y'all are seeking what? At the moment is, you know, we just we're just trying to make sure we get justice, you know? Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, Sylvester, last question. Do you have any continuing pain or residual pain from this encounter? Yes. Right now, I'm still trying to shake back from that situation. I'm just now

starting to kind of get back on my feet and get my ducks in a row from that. You know, that was like, what, 2021? That was almost, what, you know, two years ago. And I'm just now starting to kind of get back on track as far as getting my, you know, with my financial situation and getting my kids, you know, back where they need to be as far as. You also lost your job, correct? Yeah, I lost my job. What kind of job were you doing?

At the moment, I was doing security, you know. I was kind of working towards being one of them. I had three years of experience with security. Then I was going to go ahead and enroll into a police academy. But after that happened, it kind of just, I changed my whole mind about dealing with the whole, that whole deal. I just went ahead and, you know,

tried to find something else to do, man. Are you employed right now? Yes, right now I have another, I'm with another security company at the moment, you know, until I can find what I really want to do. Because with that whole situation, and them pending false deals on my name, it was hard for me to find a job anywhere. So after those charges was dropped and stuff like that, I eventually found somewhere to work. But I was out of work for about a year and a half, man, just trying to find a way to provide for me and my kids, you know?

Absolutely. Sylvester, we appreciate you joining us. Good luck and certainly keep us abreast of this case. I got you, man. Thank you for having me, man. Thank you so very much. Lauren, we talk about so many of these stories And again everyone always wants to talk about

Comply but The natural reaction when you don't do anything wrong And you're getting snatched out of the car by a cop You're going to be mad as hell pissed off Well The natural reaction to if you were a black male In the United States would be Fear and terror right because we've watched

Video after video of black men in the United States, would be fear and terror, right? Because we've watched video after video of black men in the United States getting killed by the police. So if you're in that particular cohort, you should be particularly nervous. I mean, we watched George Floyd get choked out on a video that went on for, what, eight, nine minutes. We watched Eric Garner get choked to death for nothing, for absolutely nothing. And it was interesting that the words probable cause came up somewhere in that conversation. I was trying to figure out what exactly the probable cause

for the stop was in the first place, because this is yet another episode where the police are just too involved. I mean, I've got a lot of cops, and my dad was in law enforcement as well, and my nephew, and so many other relatives. But what's happened is, of course, as I don't need to say, but I may as well say it, there's this entire apparatus, this entire thing that is policing in the United States. And yes, it is necessary in a lot of cases. But what has happened is that when you're stopping people for no particular reason, that's

when you have to sort of sit back and say, we got cops getting a little bit too involved in day-to-day activity, because this is not a call. This is not a law enforcement officer arriving at a call. This is somebody initiating a stop. And I couldn't figure out what the initial reason for that stop was. But, I mean, there's no reason whatsoever why anybody getting stopped who is an African-American male in the United States, particularly in this moment with the advent of the technology that we have, with all the stops that we've had, from Philando Castile to Walter Scott. We watched Walter Scott get shot in the back seven times in South Carolina on video.

So we used to not have that, and now we do have that. So if you're getting stopped now, you should be particularly nervous, as he was when this officer asked him to get out of the car. It's like Groundhog Day, Recy. Yeah, I mean, and what's so appalling is the multiple levels of, I don't even want to say failure because it seems like their point is to inflict a trauma on innocent Black people just going to get food for their children or whatever else people are doing that day

when they get fucked with by the police. But the fact that these bogus charges went on for over a year, despite the fact that you have the body cam footage with people saying, fuck, we got the wrong guy, is beyond appalling. So I think that there are more people beyond just the police that should be held accountable

for this injustice against Mr. Sevelster, because it's really appalling. And to people who want to sit up there and say, comply or act like, you know, that there's really anything that you can do to avoid this kind of situation, unfortunately, there isn't. It's just called being black in America. And the fact that even the officers recognizing that this is not the guy they thought it was, that at most they had a failure to signal, which we heard that with Sandra Bland, they still went forward to inflict more damage to exponentially bring more harm to an innocent person. And that definitely deserves some compensation, hopefully in the millions, for Mr. Sylvester. Greg.

Absolutely, Roland. First of all, what the video showed us was the limits of diversity, equity, and inclusion. A white woman, an indeterminate, maybe Latino, maybe some other cop, the guy, Guab, who kept saying that bro talk. And it sounded like a black man trying to coast him through what they could do to pin on the brother. So these are the limits of diversity, equity, and inclusion. These people were hunting. You know, it reminds me of that scene in American Gods. It was the last day of class today at Howard.

We were, I showed a clip of Orlando Jones, your friend Orlando Jones, portraying Mr. Nancy in the American Gods series. Remember, and he's on the ship with the enslaved people. And he says, oh, y'all don't know y'all black yet. Okay, this is what's going to happen. You're going to a place where you're going to be slaves. Oh, yeah. steps right now and kill those effing Dutch right now. Okay, let's go to this. These people were hunting. You heard them say they're running license plates. They sitting up trying to catch somebody. They're hunting. This is what the police do. I have no sympathy for, and I got law enforcement in my family, but guess what? The police are our enemies, structurally. No diversity, equity, inclusion program, including black cops. Yeah, if you're going to be a good cop, then you're going to have to understand that policing

itself was set up to F us from enslavement to now. They were hunting. They were running license plates. And then they catch this guy. Oh, he's in the parking lot. We can't do nothing for him now. So now they go hunt on the other side. They catch him on a little tech and then they start going.

Now we're going to go for them. Guess what? And so here's the black man coaching the white woman and the indeterminate non-white other cop. Well, you got him on the violation. What about the pistol? The pistol fell out. What about resisting arrest? What about what about failure to signal? Oh, we got to do something. Well, did you get him out of the car? OK, traffic violation. Did he resist? Well, he didn't resist, but he did. He comply. The coming out of your mouth, get out of the car. If you don't get out of the car, is that failure to comply?

It ends with this. This is not going to end well in this country. You know why? Because policing itself was set up to be against you. Policing has to be destroyed. And at some point, public safety has to be remade. Because this is what they are trained to do. And I think it's quite frankly,

a judgment on people's character when they sit, whatever color agenda they are waiting, running license plates to see if they can hunt somebody. Would you like it if somebody hunted you? Well, I know they're going to sit here and try to block us, but what the hell? I'm going to go ahead and play the video us, but what the hell.

I'm gonna go ahead and play the video Greg was talking about, go. A man got fucked. Now how is that for a story? Cause that's the story of black people in America. Shit, you all don't know you black yet. of black people in America. Shit. You all don't know you black yet. You think you just people.

Let me be the first to tell you that you are all black. The moment these Dutch motherfuckers set foot here and decided they white and you get to be black and that's the nice name they call you let me paint a picture of what's waiting for you on the shore you arrive in america land of opportunity milk and honey and guess what you all get to be slaves. Split up, sold off, and worked to death. The lucky ones get Sunday off to sleep and fuck and make more slaves than all for what?

For cotton, indigo, for a fucking purple shirt. The only good news is the tobacco your grandkids are gonna farm for free is gonna give a shitload of these white motherfuckers cancer. And I ain't even started yet. A hundred years later, you're fucked. A hundred years after that, fucked. A hundred years after you get free, you still getting fucked out of job and shot at by police.

You see what I'm saying? This guy gets it. I like him. He's getting angry. Angry is good. Angry gets shit done. You shed tears for Combe and Nancy, and here he is telling you.

You are staring down the barrel of 300 years of subjugation, racist bullshit, and heart disease. He is telling you there is one goddamn reason you shouldn't go up there right now and slit the throats of every last one of these Dutch motherfuckers and set fire to this ship. You already dead, asshole. At least die a sacrifice for something worthwhile. Let the motherfucker burn. Let it all burn. RACI! That's your spirit. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's

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Today on Capitol Hill, there was a Senate Judiciary Committee, and Republicans, y'all, are really upset. They're really upset because the Democrats, we want to petition, excuse me, subpoena, billionaire donor Harlan Crowe, you know, Clarence Thomas' sugar daddy, and also Leonard Leo, Clarence Thomas' other sugar daddy. And so they're really upset by that. And so Senator Dick Durbin is like, listen, man, look, we got to move this thing along. And they were upset that they were not allowed to basically have more comments about different nominees that were coming for the panel.

And Durbin was like, yo, we already done this. They're like, no, we got a problem. So guess what? They got pissed off, eventually walked out. Watch this little childish display. The clerk will call the roll. Mr. Chairman, are we going to have an opportunity to speak on the nominee? Yes, we're going to.

Oh, I'm sorry. We already had done that at great length. Well, I think this deserves some commentary, given the nature of the nominee. And I'd like to ask to speak on the nomination. Senator, we've debated these two nominees twice. Mr. Chairman, I would also like to speak on the nomination. I understand what you'd like to do, but I'm saying that, in fairness, we have debated these nominees twice, and I ask the clerk to call the roll.

Mr. Chairman, you're denying us an opportunity to speak on a nominee. I mean, okay, do this. We don't have a right to speak under the rules? Under the third time, I'd say no. So you're just going to make it up? Yeah. There's going to be a lot of consequences coming here. You're going to have a lot of consequences coming if you go down this road.

You better believe it. I've cautioned a lot of you. The clerk will call the roll. Listen to me. I've cautioned a lot of you. The clerk will call the roll. Listen to me. I've cautioned a lot of you. Mr. Whitehouse. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, don't we get the opportunity to speak? We're in a roll call. So you're telling us to shut up? Even though multiple members have asked to speak? You want us to shut up? Is that what you're saying? A lot of people didn't speak on the two nominees before. Would you raise your hand if you did not speak? I did not have a

chance to speak. Senator Blackburn had a chance to speak. We've got several folks, Mr. Chairman, who didn't have a chance to speak. We want to tell you again why these nominees are awful. Mr. Lutz. Or in Senator Cornyn's case, tell you for the first time,

you're just going to sit there and ignore us? Senator Blackburn, have you spoken on these nominees? I've not had the opportunity to speak. I would like very much to speak on Mr. Cassabai. Mr. Chairman, I urge you to let Senator Blackburn speak. Senator Corden as well. Senator Cornyn as well. Senator Cornyn hasn't had a chance to speak. That's correct. Mr. Grassley. Point of order, Mr. Chairman. You can't limit debate without invoking rule four. You haven't done that. We have debated. We've debated on prior occasions when we didn't have a quorum. That vote didn't count. We've got people who were here now who weren't here then who'd like to speak. Can we speak on the other nominees? Or is your plan just to end all debate today? Is your plan to end all debate? Do you have an answer or are you going to rely on someone whispering in your ear? What's your plan?

No. No, we're not. You can, okay, listen, here's the deal. We worked seven weeks to try to solution the asylum problems. You boycotted the committee. Mr. Cruz. Mr. Chairman, I don't know if you left us any alternative but to deny the committee a quorum.

Mr. Cotton. I think that's something we ought to seriously consider. I'll tell you what. Mr. Cotton. I think that's something we ought to seriously consider. Mr. Cotton says the chairman needs to rethink his decision and let Senator Cornyn and Senator Blackburn speak. That's what Mr. Cotton says. You mark that down as my vote. Mr. Kennedy.

Everybody over there who's not willing to look at me or look at Dick Durbin needs to think about it as well. Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Tillis. Mr. Kennedy wants to speak as well. Mark Mr. Cotton now saying Mr. Kennedy needs to speak too. I'm waiting to be heard on the nominee. I've requested several times to be heard on the nominee. So no, I guess Senator Durbin's not going to allow women to speak either. I thought that was sacrosanct in your party. Senator Durbin.

Aye. Senator Durbin, on this vote, the ayes are 11. The nomination will be favorably reported to the floor. The clerk will call the roll. Mr. Chairman. That's how you do it. I'd have let y'all talk twice. We ain't going to have a

third time. And Cornyn, if you want to talk, should have showed your ass up at the hearing before us. Yeah, I mean, the whole idea of we're going to keep debating, debating, debating, tell you again, again, again. Hell no, shut the hell up. It's time to vote. If you don't want to vote, shut the hell up still and let us move on

with the business. I think the whole way that Democrats tend to operate of like, you know, with Republicans threatening oh, this sets a precedent, wait till we get our turn. When they get their turn they show their whole ass. So, I mean, I think Dick Durbin should have told them to shut the hell up but he didn't and he still got the vote

that he needed and business can proceed. But I like this energy. Don't be scared of them. They ain't got the numbers. When they have the numbers, then they go ahead and flip it on you. But that's how they do because they don't play with their power the same way that Democrats do.

And Lauren, here's our weak-ass Lindsey Graham. We want to speak again on how horrible the nominee is. Well, hell, you already said it. And guess what? You ain't got the votes. Elections have consequences. Take your punk ass home. I think my favorite,

your favorite was Lindsey Graham. My favorite was Tom Cotton. His punk ass too. Yeah, he's always Tom Cotton is my favorite because he thinks he's so tough, and he's just not. He's just a silly dude. You know, I guess I'm old enough to remember when I was an intern on Capitol Hill.

And I don't have to go back that far. I mean, I can remember the treatment of Eric Holder by people like Louie Gohmert and Lindsey Graham, of course. We had the Orrin Hatch years. We had the Strom Thurmond years. When I started as an intern on Capitol Hill, Strom Thurmond was still there. And the idea that these guys in the Republican Party are trying to pretend that they run a fair hearing where everybody can be heard is just a laugh riot, an absolute laugh riot. Durbin, of course, has been there long enough to have seen what it looks like to sit in the minority. But, you know, really what you're seeing is the frustration that they have that they can't make their YouTube videos, because this is what this is really about, is them making YouTube video, which is why Cotton kept talking when the clerk was heard doing the role in the background,

because Cotton wants all that audio on some video someplace because that's all these people do all day. The Republican Party, as we know it today, is not about governance. And so you're just seeing people making videos to raise money, to do the video, to do the fundraising, to get the fundraising email out. That's what you're watching. So they're trying to, you know, I forget which Supreme Court justice it was. It might have been Breyer, who warned everybody about bringing cameras

into the Supreme Court, which I wish did exist. But he was right when he said that it has an effect on human behavior because this type of action, this type of activity, this type of childishness is really about performing for the camera. And Tom Cotton, who thinks that he's so smart, he looks, he's just laughable. He's a laughable figure. He's a comical figure. And he doesn't even realize it. He has no ability to stand outside of himself and look at himself and say,

how do I look in this moment? He looks absolutely ridiculous. And Durbin just ignored them because Durbin is playing the adult in the room. Oh, yeah, agreed. He didn't see Tom Cotton. Ah, you got what? Women can't speak? Women can't speak?

Is your girl going to ignore a woman? No, I'm going to ignore a fool named Marsha Blackburn. No question. From the place I was born in Tennessee, Marsha Blackburn, No question. From the place I was born, Tennessee, Marsha Blackburn, a daughter of the Confederacy. Yeah, I mean, Lauren laid it out. I mean, this is what they are doing.

They're not trying to govern. They're trying to ruin, and they want to stay in power. You know, I was completely and thoroughly disgusted by the vote that took place in the United States House of Representatives that equated anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. It's indefensible. Ideologically, it's indefensible. But politically, I understand. I understand why Rashida Tlaib had to vote present, because unlike George Santos, she's an honorable member of the United States House of Representatives, and they censured her, these racists. So she had to vote present.

I understand Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley having to go along with that, even though I'm sure they gritted their teeth. Because Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Zionism is settler colonialism, and Israel is an ethnostate. And if they would allow everybody to vote, it would no longer exist as an ethnostate, and that is the real threat, the existential threat they're talking about. We can debate whether or not that's good or bad, but that's the real politics. I understand all that. But let us not forget that the other side are purebred ethno-nationalists, white nationalists. They are ethno-racists, not white nationalists.

Tom Cotton, I'm with you. I love Tom Cotton. In the words of the talented Mr. Tyree Trotter, also known as Black Thought, from my adopted home of Philadelphia, first thing to follow is cats with no chin. Chinless Tom Cotton is everything that this country should embrace fully as its white nationalist objective. Tom Cotton ain't shit. And he's sitting there, I thought your party was about women. Even when he's trying to gesture, he tells the truth.

He said the quiet part out loud. We're not about women. We're not about equality. We're not about people. We're about naked white racism and power. And this is a time to be serious right now. Again, DeSantis is going to be debating the governor of California. What is that?

DeSantis is trying to remain in some type of political viability. And what is going on with the governor of California? What is he doing? He's trying to keep his powder dry for run for 28, maybe 24. Why? Because politics goes on as usual. But Black people in the United States of America, please understand that we have to be at the table in order to do something. We have to register. We have to vote. We have to intervene. Because this thing,

what we just saw, what you just showed there. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday,

we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.

This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

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going to ruin it. And our question, our only question is, what are we going to do? Well, while that is happening in the Senate, over in the House, they actually had a debate today regarding expelling George Santos. And the Pillsbury Doughboy himself, he was participating in all of this. And, man, shots were being fired left and right. Yo, watch this. Thank you. I'll keep this very brief.

I myself have been a victim of George Santos and as well as other members of Congress in terms of defrauding through public donations. I received an ethics complaint from the FEC, which I had to spend tens of thousands to defend myself. You, sir, are a crook. I know I should direct my comments to the chair. I yield back. Gentleman's time has expired. Gentleman from New York, Mr. Santos is recognized. I'd like to move to have the gentleman from Ohio's ward stricken from the record, please.

Gentleman's request is not timely, but I would remind members to direct their remarks to the chair. The gentleman is recognized. Mr. Speaker, hypocrisy, as I mentioned. My colleague wants to come up here, call me a crook. Same colleague who's accused of being a woman beater. Are we really going to ignore the facts that we all have passed and we all have the media coming out against us on a daily basis.

This boy done said if y'all expel me, I'm telling everybody who y'all cheating with, the orgies, who beating your wives, he about to sit here and just drop all the tea. Go ahead, do it. Put your money

where your mouth is, homie. we want to hear all of the scandalous stuff because the democrats ain't about it to really put it out there like that so you need some republicans it's nothing like some good old republican on republican crime to really get the down and dirty out there that's what i want to see so yeah go ahead go ahead and take everybody down with your ass. And, and, and, and, and, Lauren, here's that, here's that fool, Matt Gaetz, you know, the one who like little young girls. Watch this.

Here's why. Since the beginning of this Congress, there's only two ways you get expelled. You get convicted of a crime or you participated in the Civil War. Neither apply to George Santos. And so I rise not to defend George Santos, whoever he is, but to defend the very precedent that my colleagues are willing to shatter. Whoever he is, the Pillsbury Doughboy sitting over there? Yeah. Yeah, this is just clown time. I mean, it is really, it's funny,

but it's not so funny when we're leading into a year where our democracy is on the line and these are the people that are involved in these conversations. Interestingly enough, I actually happen to agree with, I can't believe I'm saying it, but Matt Gaetz. I do think that there is something wrong with expelling a member. You know, George Santos ultimately represents a massive media failure.

What he really represents is a massive failure of a media whose business model is going down in terms of revenue, and that has translated into a lack of funding investigative journalists around this country. George Santos should have never been elected. He should have been exposed way before we got to Election Day. And he wasn't. And that is why he is in Congress. And so now unseating a duly elected member, I think, is a really serious question. And I am a very strict believer, particularly in an era of misinfo and disinfo, of due process and wanting to see all evidence, even though we pretty much know what we know about George Santos. A lot of it is public facing. But I'm not a fan of undoing the will of the voters.

And I'm not a fan of someone not getting their complete hearing in a court of law. But here's the deal, though. You have a House Ethics Committee, Greg. They actually can do this. So at the end of the day, they can strip you of your committees, and you can get expelled. It's not like it says you can only be expelled for these reasons here. He's lied. It's been fraudulent. He's been indicted. And hell, he lied to the committee.

Of course, Roland, on his face. But here's the problem. The House of Representatives, the federal government, actually no government generally, but certainly the United States government and the federal government, they're not ethical. This isn't a moral question. It's a legal question, but more importantly, it's a political question. I mean, I'm sure, as you've mentioned before, Adam Clayton Powell. Remember, we go back to the case of Powell versus McCormick in 1969. The United States

Congress, after Adam Powell was elected to his seat in New York, they voted to exclude him. And he went to the court and he got the Supreme Court and Supreme Court says, you know, but the question is, can the House exclude a duly elected member of the House of Representatives if the member has satisfied the standing requirements? And what are the requirements to be a member of Congress? Age, citizenship and residence. That's it. Now, what is less clear is when you go to, not Article I, Section 2, but Section 5 of the Constitution, the United States House of Representatives does have the power to, they don't have the power to exclude if they meet those basics, but they can expel. So you're absolutely right, Roland. Legally, they can do it, but this is a political question.

And so, yeah, I'm with you, Lauren. I don't agree with Matt Gaetz or Thomas Massey, who voted against it, except that once you've done this— see, the white nationalists are trying to solve a problem. They got a George Santos problem. But let's be very clear. If they ever get the numbers, you think they won't expel Rashida Tlaib or Eleanor Lamar? Yeah. You think they won't expel—in Tlaib or Omar? You think they won't expel?

In other words, this is a dangerous moment. It's very clear the guy shouldn't be in Congress, but this is not an ethical body. This is a political question we're talking about now. But here's the deal. They have the numbers. They control the House. And here's the deal. You get rid of him,

the guy out of Ohio is taking the job as the president of Youngstown State. They're going to be down to a single vote majority. So I have no problem watching the crazy people implode. I ain't got no problem whatsoever. Final story here, two final stories, but this one here. I forgot to do this after Thanksgiving. I was watching the Texas A&M played South Carolina.

This was before Thanksgiving. And while I was watching the game, they kept talking about there's a trophy that former Texas Governor Rick Perry commissioned when he was the governor to award to the winner of that annual game. It is called the William Bonham Trophy. And so during the broadcast, they were going back and forth trying to figure out where's the trophy, who has it, does it actually exist, and then they actually showed a photo of it. This is the actual photo. This is taken from the Instagram page of George P. Bush, who was the land commissioner in Texas.

And so as you see there, that is the Bonham trophy. And they've got some sort of writing on there. I said this on social media. And I, you know, I did it and I was going to come back and talk about on the media. And I did it, and I was going to come back and talk about it on the show. While we were sitting here talking, I think when one of y'all mentioned South Carolina and Lindsey Graham, it sort of reminded me of this. Let me be real clear here. This trophy should never, ever be presented to anybody. And if you are a black player on the South Carolina Gamecocks football team,

and if you are a black player on the Texas A&M football team, you should never, ever even mention this trophy. You know why? This, come on, show it again. This photo here, y'all, is a Confederate monument. Bonham fought

on the side of Texas when it came to the Alamo. Everybody, what they've done, and again, I went through Texas history, and they all remember the Alamo. The fight at the Alamo was the protection of slavery. That's what it was about. And so you're celebrating a Confederate hero in William Bonham. So shame on Rick Perry, a Texas A&M graduate, for even creating this trash trophy.

But this is a perfect example, Greg, where people need to understand history. And what you see, so here when this was created, it literally was a monument to a Confederate. And what they've done is they've created this whole notion that Alamo was about Texas independence. And it was independence from Mexico to keep people of African descent enslaved. Absolutely. Well, you know, you've talked extensively with

our brother Gerald Horne on this in his book, The Counter-Revolution of 1836. Texas is a rogue place. And now that it's majority non-white, and white people are the largest minority, but still a minority group in Texas, everything needs to be renegotiated

and reevaluated. I did not know that about that statue. I'm glad you've informed us all tonight. And it should be immediately retired. It shouldn't even be a question. But of course, it took so long for them, Fort Hood, I mean, all of those places, it took so long for them to take those names out of rotation. But guess what?

It can be done. They don't have to have the political will. We have the numbers at this point. And so, yeah, I think you're absolutely right, Roland. As this country continues to change demographically, everything's going to have to be renegotiated. We cannot continue this way. These white nationalists know that. That's why they're fighting so hard to preserve their little settler mindset.

But we can overwhelm them now. We have the numbers. And by the way, completely unrelated, if fam beats uh prairie view in the swag championship game this coming saturday it's gonna be fam and howard at atlanta i just came back from atlanta i think they're afraid they're gonna burn the whole city down yeah i don't know that's what i want to know i don't know if atlanta gonna be happy gonna be able to handle all them black people for Howard and FAMU in Atlanta? No.

I don't know. I mean, I was in Atlanta for the Super Bowl when Keisha was the mayor, and it was all right. So I think Atlanta can handle as many black people as some. The Super Bowl is not Howard and FAMU. The Super Bowl is a white corporate party. That's what the Super Bowl is.

Well, I couldn't tell. It was all us up in there. I don't know about this one here. I don't know. It's going to be a little wild up in there, Lauren. You got anything to say about any of this, Lauren? Not really. I mean, as far as the statue,

I mean, I would never have guessed that the Robert E. Lee statue would have come down in Richmond, Virginia. It came down because the people took it down. Literally took it down. I mean, protested to the point where the politicians had to make a move that they did not want to make.

So, anything is possible. That is the case. That is the case. But again, I just want to go ahead and make that point there. Also, folks, we have a memoriam. Reverend Charles Adams, a longtime preacher out of Detroit, passed away very much involved in the Progressive National Baptist Convention. He was a preacher among preachers and folks in Detroit mourning him. Again, if you go to the PNBC website, they talked about his role in the Progressive National Baptist Convention and the role that he played.

But a lot of people may also remember him when he spoke at the funeral of Rosa Parks in 2005. And he gave arguably the eulogy that everybody remembers to this day. Now, y'all remember, that funeral was a little shorter than Aretha Franklin's funeral. It was about seven hours and 45 minutes. The queen went eight hours. I was there. But Reverend Charles Adams, man, did he kill that thing when he had this to say about Rosa Parks. In the beauty of holiness, we praise your name for the pastor and the people who prayed and gave and sacrificed. I'm going to reset the video here because it was about 11 or so minutes.

But I want to pick it up a little further in to close the show out here. And let's see. Give me one second. This is not acting right. All right. So I'm going to have to go to my other device. I was, I totally, this pops up on Instagram all the time, Reesey, Lauren, and Greg. And I remember I was live when it happened, when the funeral took place. I was live on the air.

No, I started the show live on the air, and I think I ended up having dinner by the time the thing was over because it took forever. And, again, everybody, I totally forgot. Hillary Clinton spoke. Obama spoke. Farrakhan, Reverend Jackson, everybody. I mean, everybody named Mama spoke at that one. But I dare say the clip that continues to get played over and over again is how Reverend Adams closed this thing out. Y'all can pick it up now. Injustice. Unnecessary and unwarranted wars are being fought, causing a monstrous waste of blood and money.

Somebody needs to sit in the way. A proposal that will destroy affirmative action in Michigan will show up on the ballot in November 9, 2006. We need somebody to work to defeat that proposal. Oh God, you have taken her from us. We will miss the warmth of her deathless smile. We will miss the touch of her vanished hand. But do, Lord, put her mantle of courage on our shoulders. Straighten up our spines. Raise up our bowed-down heads. Stir up our demoralized spirits.

Help us to sit in the way of customs. Help us to sit in the way of injustice. Help us to march in the way of war personality. Thank you for the smile on her face, for the sanctity of her soul. Thank you for her gift of intelligence, for her faith and for her hope. Thank you that she did not die in mystery or perplexity, but she died in victory and certainty. Thank you that if we wear the image of the earthly, we should also put on the garments of eternity. Thank you that those who suffer here will reign beyond here. Thank you that when this earthly house has been dissolved,

we got another building, a house not made with hands. Eternal in the heavens. Thank you that the trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised incorruptible and we shall all

be changed. Thank you that death shall be swallowed up in victory and we will see her face again. Thank you that we'll see Jesus. We will be there when they crown him Lord of Lords. I wish I had 10,000 towns

just to thank you. If I were Chinese, I'd say Odea. If I were Danish, I'd say Mangatat. If I were Italian, I'd say Razzia. If I were Hebrew, I'd say Todoraba. If I were Italian, I'd say Francia. If I were Hebrew, I'd say Todoroba. If I were Greek, I would say Eucharisto. If I were Japanese, I'd say Domo Arigato.

If I were Portuguese, I'd say Obligado. If I were Spanish, I'd say Muchis Gracious. If I were German, I'd say Danke Schoen. If I were French, I'd say Merci Beaucoup. If I were Russian, I'd say Spasiba. If I were Russian, I'd say, spasibo. If I were Kenyan, I'd say, ashanta. If I were Nigerian, I'd say, eje pupu. If I was Zulu, I'd say, ingiabonga.

If I was Sultu, I'd say, keyaliboha. If I were deaf, I'd say, who I am. And I've got what I've got. And I feel what I feel. I just say, thank you. Thank you. Praise your name. Amen. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek.

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memories to see Jesse like that. And that was classic. I think about Jesse over Jasper Williams' shoulders at Aretha Franklin's father, Raciel Franklin's funeral when Jasper Williams was preaching. And of course he preached at Aretha's funeral. Of course it was a different Jasper Williams. It was a horrible

sermon. Brother, brother. I'm like, what happened to Jasper Williams? But anyway, it just reminded me of that clip. And there's nothing, every generation has to identify the people who represent, for lack of a better term, what the young people call and, of course, what Faraji calls the culture. But it's very difficult to imagine what this world will look like in the coming decades when the people who came out of that culture of the 60s and 70s have made transition. I hope that, you know, it's going to be 100 years from now. But that day when Stephen Morris makes transition and Stevie Wonder has his who's going to preach, who's going to sing? You know, who's going to I mean, that moment captured, as you say, a link in the chain, that culture of the 1960s and 70s, inheriting it from the 50s and the 40s and 30s and going backward and then emptying out into now.

It just makes you wonder, regardless of his politics, you can say what you want to about Carlton Pearson. I was looking at some of his funeral the other day and I reached out to Jeremy. Well, in fact, in fact, while you're talking, folks, go to my this is a live. They had they've had several funeral services. There's one actually happening live right now. This is a lot. This is a lot. Yeah, this is a live feed of the celebration of the life of Bishop Carlton Pearson. That's happening right now. But Greg, go ahead. Wow. No, no, no. I just wanted to say that, you know, one of the things that I appreciated about Carlton Pearson, it wasn't his theology. It wasn't. But Carlton Pearson knew the good old good ones.

He sang them songs my mama sang. And you could listen to those songs and you understand the strength of black people. This goes beyond Christianity or Islam or Judaism. This is the Africa in us. This is the thing that brings us together. And listen to listen to that clip. Listen to that prayer and looking at those responses, seeing Bernie's King and Joseph Lowry and Jesse Jackson sitting there. It just makes you wonder in the next generation how we're going to preserve that. I have no doubt that we will, but I'm not sure it's going to look like that. Great point. Great point there. Greg, Reesey and Lauren Lauren, always glad to have y'all on the show. Tomorrow I'm going to be live from St. Croix. I know.

I tried to bring y'all. I tried to do a panel there, but I couldn't pull it off. So I was trying to hook y'all up. So I'll be meeting with Tim Reed and some folks down in St. Croix on some business matters. And so I will be doing the show tomorrow from St. Croix. I'm back in the studio on Monday. And y'all know, y'all know what Monday is. Greg, I don't think they know what Monday is.

College days swiftly pass, brother. They don't understand what Monday is. And so we're going to have an alpha show on Monday. So I'm just letting y'all know what's going to happen on Monday's show. So y'all know that I've been wearing black and gold every single day. So just letting y'all know. And y'all should just turn the audio up. Just want to let y'all know how it's going to go down

on the show. Just letting y'all know how we're going to do it on Monday. So looking forward to it. Hold on, I got another one. Just letting y'all know how we gonna do it on Monday. So looking forward to it. Hold on, I got another one. I hit them, you know, I always hit them, you know, with a different one. You always gotta have your chant on standby

with some folk always ready to talk some noise. So, you know, you always gotta have them ready. So, go ahead, turn it up. So we're looking forward to also have some of our black caucus members. You know we got so many alphas in Congress, it's like having a chapter meeting. So we've already reached out to Congressman Bobby Scott, Congressman Emanuel Cleaver, Congressman Stephen Horst for chair of the CBC, Congressman David Scott. Now that Republican, John James, he also an alpha, so I ain't decided what I'm going to reach out to him. But I'm joking.

So we reached out to a lot of different folks. And my goal is hopefully we're going to have our panel in studio. So we're looking forward to that. There's a lot of stuff we want to talk about. So, again, tomorrow I'm live from St. Croix. And then, of course, on Monday, a special edition, an alpha edition right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Again, Lauren, Greg, Reese, thank you so very much for joining us. Be sure to check Greg out on the Black Table, on the Black Star Network.

Check Reesey out on SiriusXM. She always talking some trash on Saturday. Maybe I'll call in from the beach on Saturday, Reesey. Okay, I'll welcome that call, right? I might call it in between golf holes or something. All right, y'all take care. Thanks a bunch. Folks, don't forget, support us in what we do.

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