#RolandMartinUnfiltered - #JacobBlake protests continue; NBA playoffs to resume; 57th anniv of March on Wash.; Harris rips #45

Episode Date: August 28, 2020

8.27.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: #JacobBlake protests continue in Kenosha; NBA playoffs to resume after player boycott; 57th anniversary of to March on Washington commemorated; RNC wraps tonight; Sen. Kamala Harris ripped #45 in her prebuttal to Trump's acceptance speech; Why did a home appraisal jump after the owner removed all signs of blackness? Crazy a$$ woman smacks 11-year-old at a go-kart track; More anti-Trump ads hit their mark Support#RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered Partners: 2020 Census In America, everyone counts. And the 2020 Census is how that great promise is kept. Respond today online, by phone or by mail and help inform hundreds of billions in funding for education, health programs, and more. Shape your future. Start here at www.2020census.gov.#RolandMartinUnfiltered Partner: Ceek Whether you’re a music enthusiast or an ultra-base lover. CEEK’s newly released headphones hear sound above, below and from multiple directions unlike traditional headphones where users only hear sound from left and right speakers. Be the first to own the world's first 4D, 360 Audio Headphones and mobile VR Headset. Check it out on www.ceek.com and use the promo code RMVIP2020#RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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protests for Jacob Blake continue in Kenosha, Wisconsin. We'll talk to one of the protesters about what he's seeing on the ground. NBA players, they went on strike last night. WNBA players, three games on strike tonight. Major League Baseball, Major League Soccer. We'll get the latest on what's going on. We'll talk with Craig Hodges, former NBA player who's known for his social activism about what he's seeing in sports today.

Also, folks, the March on Washington, the 57th anniversary is tomorrow. We'll talk with the widow of Rayshard Brooks, who is going to be speaking at the rally, along with others who have lost loved ones. The RNC, their convention wraps up tonight. There's some black folks who spoke last night. A lot of lies being told. We'll break it all down, down for you. And Senator McConnell Harris rips down Trump today before his speech.

Ooh, quite delicious. And you'll meet the woman who saw her home appraisal jump thousands of dollars when she removed all signs of her blackness. The craziest white woman slapped 11-year-old black boy at a go-kart track. We'll tell you what happened. Plus a new round of anti-Trump as veterans go after him as well as Republicans.

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No explanation why that's the case. Although curfews were set for 7 p.m., demonstrators took to the streets to make their voices heard in various protesting. Here's some of the video, folks, of the protests that took place there. Folks are marching down the streets. You see them, hearing them as well. There have been other nights where, of course, you've seen a truck set on fire. And, of course, what the last night, the militia, the folks who were out there the last couple of nights, they were not there last night after one of their own 17-year-old white boys being arrested for the murder of two people. And so that's what's been going on there today. River Jesse Jackson, senior arrived in Kenosha

to address the shootings of Jacob Blake and the pattern of killing black people in a news conference there. Well, to make this point clear, there's a pattern killing black people. When Roof killed nine black people in church in Charleston, South Carolina, police took him to get a hamburger before taking him to jail. He walked away. The killer walked away free. When George Floyd was killed in Minnesota, the killer went home that night.

The prostitute said nothing could happen. The next day when Keith got the case, first time in the history of Minnesota black, police had been indicted for killing a black. Breonna Taylor, the killer in Kentucky still walks free today. The killer of Jacob still homely. The shooter walked free today.

Fact of the matter is the prosecutor said in Minnesota they could not find a case against the killer of George Floyd. Keith Ellison, as the attorney general, moved quickly and indicted them. Now they are guilty of proven innocence because of the horrendous killing. It burns upon the state's attorney in this state, the attorney general, to move and move quickly. We must know that justice works for the people.

Second, I want to make this concern that shot in the back seven times. Seven times on his children. No, just in front of his children. No justification. When LeFoy met Donald was killed killed in Chicago, covered up the tape. Four in a day, 16 shots. The line said he approached him with a knife. I'm sure he shot him in the back. Five million dollars, five million dollars for cover up and it didn't work.

So Laquan McDonald, Brenda Taylor, Jacob here in Wisconsin. Pattern, we demand justice from the country. There's a kind of moral desert at the top. Joining me now for a look at what's happening on the ground is one of the protesters, Kendall West, founder of the African American Club. Kendall, glad to have you on Roller Martin Unfiltered. Hi, sir, how are you?

Doing great. There is this perception that all you see are out of control white folks out there protesting in Kenosha, a city 75 percent white. What is actually happening there from your perspective? From my perspective, the black population, the largest black population are there as well. But to be honest with you, we are the ones that are doing the majority of the peaceful protesting. We've been organized. We've been very vocal about the actions that have been taken up until this point from the shooting until present. So with that being said, we respect the law enforcement's rules, regulations, policies, procedures in reference to their, I guess, their orders when it comes to different curfews

and stuff like that. So the agitators, the people who are out here making things worse aren't of our majority. Sure, we may be a minority group, but of the majority of people that are out there protesting, our community is doing it the right way. So are there any African-Americans? So first of all, are y'all protesting in a separate location than what we're seeing each night? Because that video we showed where that truck was burned out is near the courthouse. And so what's going on there and have any African-Americans gone to where they are and literally said, hey, y'all ain't repping us. You're not you're not repping Jacob Blake. You're not repping Black Lives Matter.

Y'all are sitting repping us. You're not you're not repping Jacob Blake. You're not repping Black Lives Matter. Y'all are sitting here making us look bad. Absolutely. So the first part when it comes, we're I guess the larger group of the African-American population. I wouldn't say that we're centrally located because everyone is everywhere at this point. But we started at the courthouse. And the first night of those protests, starting out there at the courthouse, it was dispersed and it was kind of moved from that point on to other sections of the city. Now, with that being said, I know for a fact there are people, black men, black women, not just black men and women, but there are people, for instance, there's a friend of mine, his name is Ron, Ronnie Brown. And he stopped one of these agitators from burning down one of the museums. He's been very, very vocal, very, very active. Not just him, but Alvin Owens, who's been very, very active as well. Dr. Pritchard, Ray Lopez, all of these different people that I can name who have literally been giving their souls to this movement

because we have, finally, we have the ear of the people outside of Kenosha because this systemic problem has been going on for many, many years. So do you believe that part? Do you believe that what should... And again, just let me know if this is actually happening. Is there a particular group or groups who are saying we're going to take charge of this, meaning we're going to have organized protest. We're going to say this is where we're meeting. This is the time we're meeting.

This is how long we're going to go. And then that sort of separates from what you're seeing out there, because, again, the actions that we're seeing in Kenosha by a lot of these white folks that are being live streamed by other white folks. For me, I'm sort of like, hey, where are the black folks who are live streaming? And look, I'll be perfectly honest with you. I got no problem. We have a component where we can literally send one of your folks a link where they can actually stream from their Android or their iPhone. So that way that is actually getting out than what we're seeing.

And so is there any plan or any effort to say we we are going to take control of this? And so if anybody is doing anything outside of this, they are not having anything to do with us. Absolutely. So I guess to unpack all of that, there are groups. Unfortunately, we don't have a larger following because we've got a small city. We're not Milwaukee and we're not Chicago. We're snug in between the two. So our following isn't as heavy. But there are people, for instance, Jesse Franklin, who is an activist in Milwaukee.

He has come down. Again, Alvin Owens has been very, very vocal when it comes to organizing. They send out direct information through social medias and stuff like that, social media apps, and they give you dates, times, where to actually go when it comes to locations, what we're going to be doing when it comes to marching, where we're going to be located, how we're going to march, what the chants are going to be. It's very, very militantly organized. And for the most part, we haven't had any issues when it comes to the peaceful protesters. It's when the lights go out, That's when we have the issues. And people, unfortunately, people don't want to see the positive side

of the African-American community here in Kenosha. They want to see the other side. And the other side is literally holding on to, I guess, they're being put into a position where if you can get a couple, a few African Americans and a big group of agitators, then they're getting pointed out. And that's, to my opinion, not fair. Do you do you believe that what we are seeing are folks who are indeed provocateurs, people who are there to do things to to give the protesters, the people who are doing it right, a bad image. I've heard that in Portland.

And we know in Minneapolis that there were white supremacists who were mixed in, who were causing the mayhem. Absolutely. I witnessed things myself. Kenosha isn't that big. I was born and raised here. I went away for school and military and things of that nature, whatever. When I came back, it's still pretty relatively small. With that being said, I know a lot of people. I know familiar faces. I know different faces. And the familiar faces are those who are in the peaceful portions of everything. The people that are coming from out of state. I don't understand why we're even seeing license plates that have Washington state when it comes to our shore. Wisconsin's great. It's amazing. We love the, especially the lakefront is amazing, but, but I haven't seen it. People coming from Utah, people are coming from all these different places and they're centrally

located in the areas where we're having issues. Um, and the problem that we're having is it sucks even more because I, I been able to see, uh, people not being able to, their opinions on social media and things like that. So with that being said, I kind of want to bring to the forefront when it comes to these agitators, they're burning down the wrong neighborhoods. They are burning things that are literally for the Black community. And these things and these places, I mean, from small business owners to Black small business owners to displacing kids or minorities, period, in a specific area. Now, this is not fair because to us, we know better. We know that these

areas aren't, they're off limits. If you're going to protest this situation, why burn down the same population that represents the community that you're protesting for, which gives us and which gives me the opinion that it has to be someone from the outside because there is no way you should be burning up the uptown in Kenosha because that is our area. So have you or any of the other black protesters, has MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, these networks, have they reached out to y'all? Because again, if you look at what's being paid, now you've got, you know, all the candidates who are speaking on what's happening. People are demanding folks should be calling folks out for this. You've got, of course, these athletes who are now outraged by what happened with Jacob Blake. But again, I think just like what we saw in Portland

and Seattle and other places, it begins to take this whole turn away. And again, I'm watching these live streams at night. I'm up till two and three or four o'clock in the morning, and I'm seeing a whole bunch of white people. I'm not seeing, I'm seeing maybe one, maybe two black people, but for the most part, I'm seeing nearly all white people. Your vision is not flawed. You are seeing exactly what you described. To answer your earlier question, are they reaching out to us? I believe that they're reaching out to the people who are there are people who are, who I've named earlier, just a small few who are literally the people who are making the progress that needs to be done and needs to be

seen. For instance, we have Frank Nitti, who's out of Milwaukee, who's marching to Washington right now with my business manager, Billy Violet. They are marching for this cause, and they have had issues and things like that, but I don't know if they have received the national news that they actually deserve, so that way we can have these conversations, not just have conversations, but have these conversations directed to a solution.

Now, I apologize for talking too much, but... No, you're fine. You're fine. The solutions are there, but no one wants to hear it. For instance, as the founder of the African-American Club, it behooves me to believe that there has never been an African-American Club in the city of Kenosha, the state of Wisconsin, and or the entire United States of America. And with that being said, that hurts my soul because we have other societies that have these places for African-Americans or for their cultures to be developed or their cultures to be experienced and enjoyed, except for us. So I took it upon myself to start the process of erecting a facility for the African-American

community and those who would like to enjoy the culture, to learn about the culture, not just the watered down slavery conversation of our history. We are inventors. We are doctors. We are lawyers. We are black people are great. And it is up to us to show how great we are, but not just that, but to take ownership of it because our culture is getting appropriated or misappropriated every single day. Things go viral every single day off of black culture. Yet the majority are those who are getting the accolades and things of that nature. So, so if there are, so do this here, I mean, we have information. If, if there, if any of your people, if they are live streaming, if they're live streaming

your protest, I'm going to send our folks, get your information. He live streams, his name's Corey, and Corey is literally the, he's the eyes on for us. All right, so Corey's the one, so he's shooting, he's live streaming. So, and, and, and he's live streaming where? Facebook. If I'm not mistaken, he has, he has all the social medias and he records, he's, I mean,

he's the one that was skateboarding a guy. So he moves around. So here's what, so here's what we'll do. I will we we will connect Corey without without our digital folks. And then that way, when y'all are protesting, we can pick that up and actually stream it on all our platforms. I mean, I got to two point seven million. And then that way that goes out. And then what's also important, if y'all are sending out where you're protesting and times information, we can also amplify that so people know that these are the legitimate protesters. This is what people are doing. These are folks who have an agenda, who live there.

And then, and I got no problem calling out other national media saying this is who y'all should be talking to. Absolutely. Yeah, I have I have those people's information. You can contact me. You can contact my businessman, Billy Violet. When it comes to all of these things, if I'm not mistaken, another big one is going to be Saturday at 2 p.m. 2 p.m. at the Civic Park. and that's going to be right across the street from the courthouse, and that is going to be us. So, and those people, whatever, who understand that the peaceful protesting, it works. Got it. And we're here for it.

So, but yeah, and like I said, there, it's the, they're really, they're, there are things that are in the works to, to kind of change the narrative or to actually just change the narrative, especially when it comes to our, our community being here, coming here, coming back here. I observe that there's nothing for us to do, nothing for us to have or call our own. And again, that's the reason why I like to plug the African American Club. Donations are going to be there. Go to theafricanamericanclub.com. You can call me back if you have any questions or anything like that at 866-255-1865 or 866-BLK-1865

to get an idea of what the African American Club Club is, what we are, what we're planning as a social club, as well as a business incubator. So that way we can harbor and fester or foster those those black owned businesses and black owned community inside of the African-American Club tagline, stronger together tagline, Black Wall Street Kenosha. All right. Well, look, i will have my book or send an email get information and so we can push it out and amplify that uh kendall we appreciate it thanks a lot thank you so much sir all right thank you very much i want to bring my pound out to greg car chair department of afro-american studies how university reesey colbert black women's views

erica savage wilson host savage politics podcast greg i'll start with you. Bottom line is this is why you have to have, again, independent black media, because again, what we are seeing every night, we are seeing white folks out there protesting in the streets. We're seeing them burn stuff up. You hear this brother saying, no, I'm from here. That is not us. And that has to be stipulated so folk understand really what's happening. Of course, brother. And yes, it is. No question. Everything our support for us, brother West and everything he's saying. I think we have to be very careful, though. There is no standard that black people can meet in this country that would satisfy our open enemies. There is no respectable level of protest. There is no refraining from breaking windows or anything else that would stop these people.

Kyle Rittenhouse is a white terrorist, and so are the police everywhere, including Kenosha. They gave him water bottles, he's got his long rifle, he's over there talking, and this boy goes over here and starts his murder rampage. And we saw that he would be rewarded if he wasn't arrested. He'd be like Mark and Patricia McCloskey at the terrorist national convention this week. He would be given a medal, he would be given a platform. My point is this, Brother Kendall can try to educate all he wants. You go back to the Atlanta insurrection of 1906, Dr. Du Bois was like, living in Atlanta, saying, I think the world is just thinking wrong about race. And then they lynched a black man and stuck

his knuckles in the butcher shop window, put them on display. My point is this, there is no way to convince these white nationalist terrorists that we deserve to be human. The only thing they are going to respect is when we break their backs through economics, through politics, through organizing. And those white people who don't want to be on the wrong side of history need to join us. But it ain't about how many windows you shattered or whether you shattered them or not. As Charles Blow said in the New York Times yesterday, their job is to spread confusion and obscure reality. They have a reality and they're going to stick to that. I don't give a damn if we all marched in line silently and ain't break nothing. That's not the issue. See, here's the deal, Erica. I don't my deal is not making even making them comfortable and saying, oh, no, no, we're all peaceful. The issue for me is I want to make sure that black people are the ones who are getting the attention and are speaking to the issues in Kenosha and not have national media just show these images of a bunch of white folks running around. And as you heard Kendall say, they're looking at the license plates.

These look, the white boy, Kyle Rittenhouse was from Illinois. He said, we got white folks who are coming in from all these other parts of the country, which says they're not local. And so what they're doing is just running to the next hotspot, bringing all their mayhem, acting a fool. And there needs to be somebody to say, no, no, no, no. Where are the people who are from here who are going to be living here when these fools move on to the next hot spot?

Yeah, you're absolutely right, Roland. And, you know, we've seen this in the calls that Tamika Mallory and Linda Sarsour have taken up in Louisville, Kentucky. I saw Facebook videos of white domestic terrorists, aka militia groups, that were occupying the areas with which they are protesting. They were recording license plates, and they were actually giving reporting live, hour by hour, of what the activity was against what they consider to be radical black and brown people.

So, you know, I do agree with what Dr. Carr said around, you know, there's no way that a black person can comport themselves to really gain some level of sympathy or understanding or empathy or really kind of alignment with what's right. But also, to your point, Roland, about ensuring that people that are on the ground organizing and doing the work are the folks that are talked with and connected to. with his white terrorist campaign, continue to live forward and place sympathy around Kyle, who is, in fact, a white domestic terrorist. But so that's why platforms like this are of the utmost importance, and that, honestly, it is up to the audience to really kind of share out this platform in a much more meaningful way, because even though, you know, mainstream media is very much so prominent, digital is taking over. And so, again, we are in this new era of civil rights, and it definitely is going to require

that all of us get involved, not just a few people, but all of us. The key here, Recy, is making sure black people stay centered. Because, see, again, what happens in this, and we see it, it's already happened. Jacob Blake gets shot seven times in the back on Sunday around 5 p.m. All of a sudden, you have protests. And then you have, all of a sudden sudden on Tuesday, white boy loses his mind, comes with a gun. He kills two people, both white shoots a third person who's also white. And so all of a sudden now the conversation is actually a white supremacist who fires his gun,

who shot three white people in the midst that, has nothing to do with the actions of Kenosha, Wisconsin and how they treated this black man. And so I think what always has to happen, and it was the same thing that happened in Portland

when we had the folks on with the Vote Wall group. My whole deal is that's where the messaging has to go out where black folks say, hey, that bullshit, that ain't us. So don't y'all come here talking about Black Lives Matter and talk about black people. No, no, no. Go get y'all white folks who over there acting a fool.

That's not us. Yeah, I mean, well, and I do agree with you in the sense of how these movements tend to be gentrified in Columbus by white agitators. And, you know, they do manage to slip in the white supremacists and white nationalists and the white domestic terrorists like Kyle Rittenhouse. And actually, I wouldn't even call that slipping in because here you have the Kenosha police in tanks for peaceful protesters that are lollygagging and handing out water to armed domestic terror. And saying glad y'all are here. Exactly, exactly. So I, but I still tend to side with Dr. Carl. This is not about respectability.

This isn't even about order in terms of peaceful protesting. The order is about the social order, the social order of white supremacy. And that welcomes violence, whether it's white victims or black victims. If you're standing on the opposite side of that white supremacist social order, then your collateral damage and the person who kills you as a white terrorist becomes a martyr on Fox News, Tucker Carlson and Ann Coulter and all those other degenerates. And so I don't think that it's a matter of how we comport ourselves. As Eric also said, I think it's more of a matter of the media doing what they want to do. And as Black people,

we have a duty to do what your show is doing, which is centering the Black voices, not for the sake of saying, look how respectable we are, but for the sake of making sure that our issues are centered. The fact that Jacob Blake is handcuffed to a bed, what crime did he even commit? And the cops will not say why he is handcuffed. And so I just think that, again, while these things are happening, we have to make sure because, look, we know how mainstream media is going to play the game. OK, we know they follow the mayhem. All right. Yeah. You set it on fire. Shots fired. They're showing up. You've got a peaceful protest where they're talking about issues. They're not they're not there. And so my whole deal is we've got to make sure that when these things happen,

we are constantly centering that because when they take – this is all about the control of the narrative. That's the bottom line. You're controlling that. When they take the narrative, then that thing is just gone, and it's hard as hell to rein that thing back. And so that's one of the things that we hope to see right there. Speaking of, I'll talk about controlling the narrative.

We're seeing this right now, of course, with the NBA. The strike that took place as well. NBA players have pledged to resume the season. The plans were confirmed today by two people who were part of the discussions who spoke on condition of anonymity because talks were ongoing about several details, including when to return to play. And the athletes' protest began when a walkout with the Milwaukee Bucks players leading to the NBA

to postpone all the playoff games. Well, actually, no. The NBA didn't postpone Jack. The Milwaukee Bucks and Orlando Magic said, we ain't playing. Then the Houston Rockets and the OKC Thunder said, we ain't playing. And the Lakers and the Portland said, we're not playing.

NBA had no choice. Then, of course, what we also saw, we saw that there were five Major League Soccer games. There were baseball games not played involving the Milwaukee Brewers. Also, the WNBA players said they're not going to play. In fact, the WNBA released their statement, three games that were scheduled tonight are not going to be played as well. Not only that, the Oakland A's dropped this statement. Go to my iPad. The Oakland A's organization fully supports our players, the athletes across Major League, MLB, NBA, WNBA, MLS, and the black community in the historic efforts to end racial violence and

inequality. We stand with our players in drawing attention to the racial injustice facing the black community in our country. We will continue to amplify our players' voices and voices within the black community in Oakland and to use our platforms and resources in service of real change. And so that was the Oakland A's that dropped that statement. Now, remember, that statement was actually from the team. This is the statement that was released by the players. Social injustice and systemic racism have been part of the fabric of our lives for too long. We have a responsibility to use our platform to lend our voices for those who are not being heard. We need to continue having the uncomfortable conversations and work towards being a unified force for change. These conversations will push the boundaries

and enable us to come through on the other side with impactful results. All too often, we hear about the plight of our fellow man and fail to act. It is long past due that these communities are being heard, seen, understood, and supported. We will not take the field tonight to help raise awareness for these social issues,

not just tonight, but for our collective future. This is the first step in our relentless pursuit for meaningful change. Now, there's a diversity alliance in hockey. They are calling on the National Hockey League to actually suspend all playoff games. This is the Milwaukee Bucks with their statement last night. Well, as you can see, we all thank you guys for taking time to stay here with us. We're sorry that it took a little bit more time, but we thought it would be best for us as a team to brainstorm a little bit, educate ourselves and not rush into having raw emotion, giving you guys things like that.

So on behalf of ourselves and our team, we're gonna place a statement as a team today and go back and continue to educate ourselves and our team. We're going to place a statement as a team today and go back and continue to educate ourselves and get better awareness of what's going on and then we'll speak to you guys later. So we'll come up with a statement now. Our team statement, the past four months have shed a light on the ongoing racial injustices facing our African-American community. Citizens around the country have used their voices and platforms to speak out against these wrongdoings. Over the last few days in our home state of Wisconsin,

we've seen the horrendous video of Jacob Blake being shot in the back seven times by a police officer in Kenosha and the additional shooting of protesters. Despite the overwhelming plea for change, there has been no action. So our focus today cannot be on basketball. When we take the court and represent Milwaukee and Wisconsin, we are expected to play at a high level, give maximum effort, and hold each other accountable. We hold ourselves to that standard and in this moment we are demanding the same from lawmakers and law enforcement. We are calling for justice for Jacob Blake

and demand the officers be held accountable. For this to occur, it is imperative for the Wisconsin state legislator to reconvene after months of inaction and take up meaningful measures to address issues of police accountability, brutality, and criminal justice reform. We encourage all citizens to educate themselves, take peaceful and responsible action, and criminal justice reform. We encourage all citizens to educate themselves, take peaceful and responsible action, and remember to vote on November 3rd on behalf of the Milwaukee Bucks. Do you guys intend to finish the season?

All right, folks, again, support has come from this walkout, has come from even former NBA players. Here is Chris Webber, a longtime player in the NBA, now an announcer for TNT. Nothing will change tomorrow. We know vote. We keep hearing vote. Everybody vote.

But I'm here to speak for those that are always marginalized. Those that live in these neighborhoods where we preach and tell them to vote and walk away. Charles Barkley came to my high school. Just seeing him in the locker room, seeing his hands and his body, that inspired me. You can't see something. You can't be something until you see it. And when I tell you the little kids that have called me upset, I have a godson that has autism and I just had to explain to him why we aren't playing.

I have young nephews that I've had to talk to about death before they've even seen it in a movie. If not now, when? If not during a pandemic and countless lives being lost, if not now, when? That's all I just want to hear from the rest of the night

where everybody's pontificating and thinking and soapboxing and all of that. We know nothing is going to change. We get it. Martin Luther King got shot and risked his life. Mecca Evers, if we've seen this and all of our heroes constantly taken down, we understand it's not going to end. But that does not mean, young men, that you don't do anything. Don't listen to these people telling you don't do anything because it's not going to end right away. You are starting something for the next generation and the next generation to take over. Do you have to be smart?

Yes. Do you have to make sure that you have a plan? Yes. Do you have to be articulate about that plan? Yes. All of those things. But that's what you're going to do. They're professionals.

They know how to be the best of themselves. And so I applaud it. I applaud it because it is the young people. It is the young people leading the way. And I applaud them. Tennis star Naomi Osaka pulled out of her semifinals match tweeting, Before I am an athlete, I'm a black woman. And as a black woman, I feel as though there are much more important matters at hand that need immediate attention rather than watching me play tennis.

Also, head coaches and executives from Cleveland from Cleveland sports teams, the Cavaliers, Browns and Indians are forming a sports alliance to develop a sustainable and direct strategy to address social injustice facing the city of Cleveland and all of Northeast Ohio. Joining me right now, folks, is Craig Hodges, a longtime NBA player, someone who was very much involved in activism while he was in the league. Craig, welcome to Roland Martin Unfiltered. Craig, are you there? Craig, are you there? All right, folks, let me know. We have the audio for Craig. Let me know when he's there so I can go to him. Let me go to my panel. Erica, we've never seen this level of collective action in sports. So we have Craig. So, Craig, are you there? Can you hear me now? Now we got you. Craig, we've never seen this level of collective action in sports ever. To see the actions of players in NBA, soccer, baseball, tennis, hockey? Just your thoughts on what you're seeing.

Well, first of all, brother, I want to thank God for you and giving us a venue that is true and correct. And, you know, right now is historic times, man. So when I look at it, it's a spiritual blessing that's going on, man. And I truly feel that finally the light is being shed on, you know, people that have sojourned in this land for a long time, and to see the young brothers step up yesterday, and to see people around the world and other athletes pay acknowledgement to our ancestors' legacy, man, it's a beautiful thing for me, and now it's about, now I believe now is when

the work really begins, because it's a paradigm paradigm shift and that old reality is no longer alive. So now we have to create that new reality. And it's a nice challenge for us as black men and, you know, for the entirety of our community. When you speak to, you talk about that particular issue there. So for instance, the players, the players themselves have made it perfectly clear in the NBA that they want to do more, that they were on a call with the owners and making it perfectly clear. I was also reading one story

that I found to be interesting where Michael Jordan, who you played with in Chicago, owner of the Charlotte Hornets, he told the NBA, he said, hey, to the owners, listen to them before we start talking. And now the owners are realizing there's going to have to be more that they do as well. I just got a statement that was sent out by the Baltimore Ravens. Guys, go to that.

In this statement, the Baltimore Ravens say, though we cannot right all the wrongs of our country's history, we can arrest and charge the police officers responsible for Breonna Taylor's killing in the shooting of Jacob Blake, demand that Senator Mitch McConnell bring the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act of 2020 to the Senate floor, in qualified immunity, require body cameras, ban chokeholds, and no-kn knock warrants, hold police accountable in court, establish a framework to prohibit racial profiling at federal, state, and local levels, support state and federally funded CLEA accreditation and national standards of care and policing.

I think, Craig, when you have all of a sudden owners who are going to realize we have no product without the players. We have no choice but to ride with them because the last thing we want is for more of them to say we're not playing. You know, and that's the dilemma that we have a choice to make right now. We have a choice to create a whole new paradigm where it's going to be true ownership sharing where no longer is it going to be just a elite class of people that own brothers and have a money now is the time for us to sit down as a collective and decide what direction we want to go as regardless these entertainers whatever venue or perspective or in life time the children total line and be

you know solid with your people man because north I'm in history is like a because for who Nixon King Kong diplomacy and I know when I look at LeBron James, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kevin Durant, I know who we are. And I know that this is a generation of fulfillment. So what we're seeing is the redemption of a people. And it's never been seen before our eyes, especially us who have built everything under the sun. What would be your advice moving forward? Because obviously players are saying we want something to happen. You have other people who are saying shut up and dribble.

And so if you were talking to them, if they reached out to you, I know that they've reached out to Dwayne Wade and former players, things like that. What would you be advising them? As somebody who, let's just be real honest, your career ended early because of your activism. Absolutely. Right. So for me, when I look at it, they never should have went to the bubble. And, you know, no one will take us serious

until we show that we're serious and we stop playing games. So for me when when they blacklisted me in 1992 i realized why it was and i realized that now why it is that michael jordan is the lead i understand why last dance came out when it did we have to realize why these things are happening on the corporate level and to realize that who is really on our team and that you know i look at look at MJ, OK, I love you, brother, and what you're doing. But at the same time, where you been? You know, so it can't be no Johnny come lately thing where I'm at, because right now is the most critical point in the history of our people and this nation. So it ain't. Let me say this, Roland, to everybody that's listening. If we don't realize who sisters are right now, and that I want to apologize to all the sisters that's in the sound of my voice and that's seeing

me right now, that I'm apologizing that I didn't do more with what I could have done when I played to be able to garner the unity that is necessary in this day and time to prove to the creator that we deserve divine inheritance because what you're seeing is a divine inheritance that's coming our way and now all we have to prove is through unity and love so I grew up I'm a baby of the movement and I tell my people that we were taught I love Roland more than Roland could ever love me. And if we're rolling like that, it ain't never going to be where I'm going to pick up a beef with my brother. I'm going to pick up a weapon that didn't come from me. I'm going to pick up something that's going to harm my people.

So when I look at this game, we cannot continue to play games until they know we're serious. And then I'm with the thing where if they don't want to make a new collective bargaining agreement, let's walk away. We're 85% of the product. The last point here, obviously, this is not ending. I got these people who are saying, oh, the players, they're jumping on this thing. We don't have all the facts. I've had some other people hit me.

And I said, guys, they're not striking because of just Jacob Blake. It is compound. This is item after item after item where they've said, no, we are now going to use our collective voices to say, hell no. And y'all got to pay attention because you watching us play. And if we're not playing, it'd be wise if you listen to us. And quite

honestly, brother, you know, when George Floyd was murdered, Steven Jackson, and it was a swell of energy similar to the Dr. King energy time. So we're at an energy point spiritually that nobody can put a pulse to,

nobody can put a finger on. But we who have been around to see that it's a time in place for karma. And it's a divine karma to this thing that's coming that, you know, some battles ain't even ours. The battles that are, are those that we have control over.

We have control over. We have control over whether or not we go play. And so many times, to me, it's a cowardly move when we go down to the bubble. To me, when I look at the sisterhood, when I look at the sisters in the WNBA, when I look at the sister Osaka, the tennis player, man, the courage involved in that. And I'm saying, come on, brothers, at which point in time are we going to say, we can do the only thing that the owners provide for us is an infrastructure to play in. That's it. We got the brightest people on the planet in our women who can do payroll,

who can do scheduling, who can do uniforms, and can do everything else. So of course the NBA is going to give a little bit and then bring Michael to the forefront. Michael can't do that. And I'm telling you now, I'm older than you are. You cannot try to calm this energy among my young brothers because it ain't on you to do that. And don't bring out none of the people that you bought out when it was that Donald Sterling garbage. Because within the context of this racial thing going on within the NBA, they so woke. They wasn't woke when my brother Mahmoud Abdul-Raouf wanted to say it's a lie. You wasn't woke when Craig Hodges went to the White House and told President Bush the same things people crying about today. But we couldn't cry about 900 murders in the city of Chicago in 1991 when we went in our first raid.

Oh, we want to go smoke cigars and pop champagne bottles while people are dying. It's over for that. And check this out, brother. All of this happening in the height of Chuck being nominated again. I love it. I love it because it's a spiritual transition that is happening, and it ain't no financial transaction, brothers. So y'all got a choice right now. Choose your people over them trinkets that you think are wealth

because what the Lord has for us in divine inheritance is behind your imagination and that little 400 million ain't nothing brother so wake up to who you are and the power that you possess so that our sisters will respect us once again and they don't have they have no reason to at this point in time if we don't prove the righteous that we ready to lay it on the line for them and our children period craig hodges i appreciate it man thank you so very much thank you brother one love this is uh i mean this this is a true reckoning uh gray card that we're seeing not just in the nba but across sports not yet but we're a little closer as i'm listening to our brother i was reminded of his book long shot his memoir at the end of

that book he talks about being allowed to defend his three-point championship even though he would know he was no longer in the league and he talks about charles bartley meeting him at all-Star Weekend in Utah and over and saying, I know what you're going through, brother. And Craig Hodges was like, well, if you know what I'm going through, you need to speak up for me. And he said nothing. He ends Longshot, his memoir, by saying that as long as these brothers were in this bubble, to use the language we're using today, they didn't have to prove they were men because they were treated as if they were men because they were generating a product. And so he's absolutely right. Elizabeth Williams, who was the secretary of the WNBA Players Association at Atlanta Dream, was saying we had to make this stand. All of a sudden, Naomi Osaka is black. She was Japanese until she decided she wasn't going to play because now she's speaking for herself.

She says they black woman have her family's Haitian. So, I mean, you see this coming up. But when I say we're not there yet, we've seen this before. It took a bloody civil war for this country to finally come to grips with getting rid of chattel enslavement, direct slavery. And then for a couple of years, there was reconstruction, as we always talk about. But then there was the white latch. What we're seeing from white corporate America is not a concession. It's an attempt to contain and maintain control. That's why Hodges just said what he said. They're not, they know that this is the white latch.

This is the redemption moment. This country will only be transformed when like LeBron and them and the white girl tried to clown him. What did you get from the autobiography of Malcolm X? I think LeBron must have been reading that book because he said we shouldn't play anymore. And then the Lakers and the Clippers say we shouldn't play anymore. And when you start hearing that kind of conversation, that's when we will be indeed in a paradigm shift. But we're not quite in a paradigm shift right now

because they're trying to still contain this because they understand once that paradigm shifts, it's never going back. But the thing that we were seeing here, Erica, and not just with them saying we're striking from the game. What we're also seeing is that when you look at what LeBron and others are doing when it comes to raising the money to pay off the debts for the for the for the brothers and sisters to get the right to vote back in Florida, when you see them launching this initiative to get young folks to work the polls on Election Day, what you're seeing is, and I totally understand what Craig Hodges is saying, but I think it behooves us to also remember, Craig Hodges is talking about what happened in 1992. We're now talking about, this is 18 years later, meaning a whole new generation has come about.

This group of athletes, they're not Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and those players. This is also a different. I think that that also plays a huge role in this in terms of what they're seeing. And we cannot overlook Colin Kaepernick in 2016, because if we also did really unpack this thing. The black athlete who's in the NBA today, who's 25. Remember, he was 17 when Trayvon got killed. See, all of these things I think that have happened in the last 18 years plays a huge role. And I think while we are seeing a different response where, yeah, Craig Hodges was all alone when he when he was doing he was doing, Erica. Yeah, sure, Roland. I think that's because there was not a real aggressive continuum.

So now what we're all feeling is in somewhat kind of complacency that has ruled the day for many, many years on the backdrop of all of the different violence mechanisms that we've seen against Black bodies. They've never stopped. They've continued. And then when we think about the WNBA, we think about Maya Moore, who walked away so that she could continue to advocate for a black man who had been unjustly locked up for over 20 years. It just kind of all depends on almost, you know, where the spotlight is. And then that is kind of shine more brightly than it is in other spaces. But I think kind of like in the hour of where we are right now, one of the things that Mr. Hodge said that I definitely can appreciate is that in essence, because of all of these different atrocities that have continued to happen to black life, that it would have been

a real stand to say, no, we're not going in the bubble at all. That being that the league, the NBA is over 85 percent black, they actually have power because most people that watch the game, if they're honest, they're looking to see the swag that a WNBA and NBA player has. So when we kind of, you know, kind of peel back and to use Brother Hodges' words when he talked about it's not about smoking these cigars and popping champagne, it really has not been about that. But we're in this pandemic moment. We're in this economic collapse. We are in a housing crisis. We now are seeing that this son of a Klansman has said that he is going to do his due diligence to ensure that

the vote is actually held up, suppressed, and rigged. He's going to do that by any means necessary to say that this is a time to pause, to assess everything, and grate at the efforts that they continue to push, but more

needs to be done at this level. But here's, but here's the deal. Here's the deal right here. Recy. First of all, it was 28 years since Craig Hodges. And so you got guys right now in the league who weren't even born when

Craig Hodges was being, was white ball, but by, by the NBA, but, but what I am, but what I am, um,

hopeful of is when you see a Kenny Steele's go from the Panthers to the Texans and he's still involved he was there when he got arrested he was arrested with Tamika Mallory and until freedom when you're seeing that you're seeing you you are seeing a different level of consciousness from these players than what we've seen before, because before it was a few. Now it's a lot more. And I think as we continue, as they continue to get more educated, more connected with the information and the money is also changed. I mean, we got to put that out there as well. You got a cat now. By the time they finish their first contract, they got 10, 12, 15, 20 million they've made. And so the money alsoBA players because to be honest I mean being on social media you see a lot of black people who make every excuse to do just even the bare minimum of voting

and so these people are putting their livelihoods on the lines and they don't have actually any direct impact on Mitch McConnell or on the Wisconsin legislature but they are still taking a very strong stance and I applaud them for that and I legislature, but they are still taking a very strong stance. And I applaud them for that. And I do applaud that they are encouraging more civic engagement. And I think that that's really the takeaway for me is that this isn't saying we are martyrs in this situation and we alone can fix it. What they're saying is let's all stop, take a pause and really recognize the severity of this situation and how we can be engaged and how we can be involved. I applaud what Brother Hodges said as well, and I applaud

the stand that he took. But I also do see that these NBA players and WNBA players and Naomi Osaka and others are doing something very powerful in this moment. And in particular, when we have the Republican National Convention that for the past three days has created this alternate reality in which the boogeymen are not the police who are gunning down black people, but the ones who are actually protesting for a better America. They made out Cori Bush, who won the primary challenge against Lacey Clay, as an enemy of the state. It's absolutely ridiculous.

So I think that the timing of them making this very strong stance does help to shift the narrative. It does help to shake the consciousness to the extent that that's even possible in this country. And I applaud them. I don't think that they have any more responsibility than we do, that we excuse ourselves out of doing every day collectively as a society. Everybody has a role. My hat's off to them. Everybody has a role. Tomorrow, folks, the 57th anniversary of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom

taking place here in Washington, D.C. They'll be gathering at the Lincoln Memorial. There'll be a march from the Lincoln Memorial to the MLK Memorial. It will also be a live stream and virtual. We'll be carrying it as well. Join me right now. Two of the folks going to be speaking, Tamika Turner. She is the widow of Rayshard Brooks and attorney Chris Stewart. Tamika and Chris, glad to have you in Roller Martin Unfiltered. Tamika, you there? Yes, I'm here. Gotcha. Okay. Well, make sure i can hear me so uh tomorrow you'll be speaking tomorrow um what do you want the people who are going to be there in person and the folks who are going to be there virtually what do you want them not just to take away

from what you're going to say what do you want them to do um pretty much I want them to just stand up for justice and continue, you know, peaceful protests. And not only that, go out and vote so that laws can be changed and there can be reform within policing. Chris Stewart, when you talk about that, I mean, look, you see the pushback when officers were fired there in Atlanta involving the case of Richard Brooks, but also those two students who were snatched out of their car from Morehouse and Spelman. You have these cops who fight that back and forth. I mean, look, these are entrenched institutions and it's going to take sustained action. Yeah, I mean, people have to realize, I mean, Mia, you've been talking about these cases since Walter Scott and getting changes hard. I mean, the unions are a very strong factor and a very strong force behind a lot of these police departments. And we have to look past just the cop who killed somebody. We've got to look at the chief and the internal affairs department and the union.

I mean, you have to look at the entire system. Tamika, we have obviously, you know, you are part of a group. Some call it the lack of better phrase. a sorority, a group of women who are mothers of the movement, wives of the movement, who have had to publicly deal with grief in these high profile cases. How have you dealt with that? This is not something that you asked for. No one asked to be put in this situation. Correct. You're right about that. It's hard dealing with that. This is not something that you asked for. No one asked to be put in this situation. Correct. You're right about that. It's hard dealing with it. It really is. It becomes an emotional roller coaster each and every day because you want to be strong and you also don't

want people to think you weak. So sometimes it's hard when I want to get very emotional and cry and I have to hold it in so that I can continue like how I'm doing, speaking with you to get my point and my word across so that justice can be served and that I'm heard clearly. And and we talk about, you know, speaking that out. But the other thing is the reality is that you've got to continue to relive it. And then the other piece is, though, is that if you don't tell the story, we know that the family puts a face on it as opposed to, no disrespect to Chris and his law partner, but the reality is that that's how people see it,

is that they want to hear from the family. So you have to continue to be there speaking and talking about it. Right. And that's what's really hard. I mean, it's really hard. I mean, it's really hard. It becomes overwhelming, but it's something that I have to do. If I don't do it, who will? Chris, you and Justin Miller. When we talk about next steps, when we talk about, man, when is this thing going to end?

And I hate to say it, but look, black folks have been dealing with this for decades, for centuries. But do you think that we're operating in a different moment now where one, far more African-Americans in elected position, far more African-Americans who are DAs. And so you now have black folks who are who are a part of this system who are now inside who say not only not only can we affect this externally, but not affected internally. Yeah, there are there are more now, but we're still seeing the same things. And like Tamika said, we just have to keep on pushing and keep on putting that energy out there so that if people know that until real change happens, then we'll be doing this until 2030. The qualified immunity reforms, the reforms to the way police don't deescalate situations and use lethal force when it's not necessary are things that we cannot stop fighting for and if they don't happen then we're just going

to keep going so right now i'd say yes it is a different situation than it is in the 60s but it's not good enough to where we can let up one bit. Absolutely. Chris, final comment. Chris, final comment. Yeah, I mean, we just got to keep it going, man. Like, even, you know, you continue to push this, all the media continue to push this, the celebrities coming forward and using economic power, which is the quickest way to change.

Marches are great, but when companies start losing money, then that's where change is going to start happening because they'll start pressuring those police departments. So just keep pushing. Well, Tameka Turner, safe travels for you to Washington, D.C. tomorrow. Same for you, Chris Stewart, as well. We'll be there live streaming the events tomorrow. And we thank you very much for joining us.

All right. Take care. All right, folks. Thank you so very much. Got to go to a break when we come back. We'll talk about economics. What happens when black people do what they're supposed to do, buying a home, all those good things. And then white folks decide to undercut the value of their home. We'll talk to a sister who saw it happen with her very own eyes, and she will explain what happened when she got rid of all of her black stuff. It's amazing how the number just increased.

And Nikki Haley says, you're not dealing with racism in America. Hmm. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. You want to check out Roland Martin Unfiltered? YouTube.com forward slash Roland S. Hmm. You're slash Roland S. Martin. And don't forget to turn on your notifications so when we go live, you'll know it. Our community comes together

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I'm Jack Brewer, a former three time NFL team captain, college professor, coach, husband, son, and father. I'm also a lifelong Democrat, but I support Donald Trump. Let me be clear, I didn't come here for the popularity or the praise, the likes or the retweets. I'm here as a servant to God, a servant to the people of our nation, and a servant to our president. I grew up in Grapevine, Texas, a town that my great-grandfather was the first black man to settle as a sharecropper in 1896.

My early high school experience included fighting with skinheads and being a witness in an attempted murder trial after my friend shot a skinhead in self-defense. I remember my dad's bravery when he personally stood up against a KKK rally in my town. In my house, my father taught me to back down from no one. I know what racism looks like. I've seen it firsthand. In America, it has no resemblance to President Trump. And I'm fed up with the way he's portrayed in the media, who

refuse to acknowledge what he's actually done for the black community. It's confusing the minds of our innocent children. Before I left to come deliver this message, my energetic eight-year-old son Jackson stopped me and said, Dad, can you please just tell everyone that all lives need to matter and that God loves everyone? In that moment, I realized that my eight-year-old had figured out what so many adults have seemed to forget. We are not as divided as our politics suggest. At some point, for the sake of our children, the policies must take priority over the personalities.

So because you have an issue with President Trump's tone, you're going to allow Biden and Harris to deny our underserved black and brown children's school choice? Are we so offended by the president's campaign slogan, Make America Great Again, that we're going to ignore that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have collectively been responsible for locking up countless black men for nonviolent crimes. Are you going to allow the media to lie to you by falsely claiming that he said there were very fine white supremacists in Charlottesville? He didn't say that. It's a lie.

And ignore the so-called Black Lives Matter organization that openly, on their website, calls for the destruction of the nuclear family. My fellow Americans, our families need each other. We need black fathers in the homes with their wives and children. The future of our communities depend on it. I'm blessed to be able to run inner-city youth programs and to also teach in prisons across America. The inmates in my federal prison program literally received days off their sentence just for attending my class, and that's thanks to President Donald Trump and his First Step Act. I am Clarence Henderson. There have been movements that have changed the course of history. Among the most extraordinary was the civil rights movement.

Sixty years ago, segregation was legal and enforced. The simple act of sitting at a lunch counter could lead to physical harm, jail time, or worse. I know from personal experience, by sitting down to order a cup of coffee, we challenged injustice. We knew it was necessary, but we didn't know what would happen.

We faced down the KKK. We were cursed at and called all kinds of names. They threatened to kill us, and some of us were arrested But it was worth it our actions inspired similar protests throughout the South against racial injustice and in the end Segregation was abolished and our country moved a step closer to true equality for all That's what actual peaceful protests can accomplish.

America isn't perfect. We're always improving. But the great thing about this country is that it's not where you come from, it's where you're going. And I'm the only one out of my immediate family who graduated from college, an HBCU. I'm a military veteran and a civil rights activist. And you know what else? I'm a Republican and I support Donald Trump. If that sounds strange, you don't know your history. It was the Republican Party that passed the 13th Amendment,

abolishing slavery. It was a Republican Party that passed the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery. It was a Republican Party that passed the 14th Amendment giving black men citizenship. It was a Republican Party that passed the 15th Amendment giving black men the right to vote. All right, here's Mike Pence. We've seen violence and chaos in the streets of our major cities. President Trump and I will always support the right of Americans to peaceful protest. But rioting and looting is not peaceful protest.

Tearing down statues is not free speech. And those who do so will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Last week, Joe Biden didn't say one word about the violence and chaos engulfing cities across this country. So let me be clear. The violence must stop, whether in Minneapolis, Portland, or Kenosha. Too many heroes have died defending our freedom to see Americans strike each other down. We will have law and order on the streets of this country for every American of every race and creed and color. Joe Biden says that America is systemically racist and that law enforcement in America has, and I quote, an implicit bias against minorities. When asked whether he'd support cutting funding to law enforcement,

Joe Biden replied, yes, absolutely. Joe Biden would double down on the very policies that are leading to violence in America's cities. The hard truth is, you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America. And under President Trump, we will always stand with those who stand on the thin blue line and we're not going to defund the police. Not now, not ever. I hear a damn thing in that sorry ass speech where he talked about seven shots in the back of Jacob Blake. I didn't hear a damn thing, Erica, when it came to when it came to anything about the cops kneeling on the next. See, here's the deal. All that little nonsense. Then Charles Henderson. Look, you could have been the 1966 60 sit in and all of that.

But he was lying last night when he said Donald Trump is fully funded. HBC use. That's just a lie. It is a flat out lie. And, you know, you got to be it got to be real bad for you to skip over the last 50 years. And you got to go back to the 1800s to figure out what Republicans have done. Erica, go right ahead. Well, Roland, I think that the reason why we didn't hear any of those, you know, anything related to Jacob Blake is because we saw a Klan rally. And so why would you hear any type of remorse over the shooting of Jacob Blake? Why would you hear any empathy for the family, for Jacob Blake, whose life has been drastically changed at only 29 years old, that this young man has had his intestines and his colon removed. And as you reported at the top of the show, is now being handcuffed by a slave patrol member.

You're not going to hear that, particularly when they're telegraphing this maskless, disgusting message from Fort Henry, Maryland, which is the home of many Confederate statues. So, you know, everything that we heard is definitely in lockstep with the regime leader, the son of a Klansman. So he wasn't talking to a diverse group. He's talking to the same person that ensured that brown immigrants and their children, their babies were locked in cages. He's talking to the same group that feels as though assimilation is the best way to be connected. And that's for that token crowd. This was not a message for America. This was a message for white America, for those who can now boldly really move forth and have this kind of coded message that says that, well, because they do in fact stand for law enforcement, particularly not around this so-called president

who has been using the Constitution as toilet paper since he actually walked into office. We're talking about a person that was impeached by the House for obstructing Congress and for abuse against this government, against this country, that the Senate, which is led by Republicans, refused to impeach. And when, in fact, Mitch McConnell went on Hannity and said in December of 2019 that they were in concert with the White House and that they were going to do everything that was possible to ensure that the president was, in fact, acquitted. So to speak, and I'm paraphrasing a bit, but all of that to say this was really par for the course, especially from Mike Pence and from all of those individuals that were gathered there. Recy, go ahead. Go ahead. I mean, we're not safe in Trump's America.

So this whole notion that all of the shit that we're seeing right now in Donald Trump's America is what we have to be afraid of. And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' America? No. And these quistling Negroes that they put out there to say stupid things like all lives matter or I know racism and I don't see racism in Donald Trump. Have you not seen how this person has operated? We don't have to just listen to what Donald Trump says, which is incredibly racist. We've actually seen the way Donald Trump has governed for the past four years almost. And so this is not a hypothetical. This is not an academic exercise. This is what we've seen every single day from this white nationalist

administration. And so for Mike Pence to sit up there and talk about law and order, the Trump administration is a crime syndicate. I truly believe that we're looking at RICO charges for all of these people in the Trump administration and the Trump family once they leave office and they investigate all of the things that they've been doing, all of these financial crimes, which Tish James and Cy Vance in Manhattan

are on their ass about, they're going to have some really, really big problems. But we've seen complete lawlessness, as Erica said, wiping their ass with the Constitution. We still have a Muslim ban in place. We still have child separation in place. We still have Black people being gunned down by the police. We still have slave patrols that seem to be even more emboldened since they had those two racist white people from Minnesota, you know, parading their guns around on the Republican National Convention. And so this obviously the audience is for the people who want to assimilate with white supremacy and for the white supremacists themselves. But I don't see how anybody can watch this and walk away

believing anything that these people are saying. But unfortunately, we don't see how anybody can watch this and walk away believing anything that these people are saying. But unfortunately, we don't point these things out in the way that last week it was all about. This person didn't get to speak. And, you know, this wasn't this didn't check all these boxes. And yet you have a whole ass Klan rally that's been broadcast for the past three days, and you don't hear the same level of outrage or even attention being brought to what these people are putting forth in terms of their vision of America that people were on Biden-Harris' case about.

Greg, go ahead. Do what you do. Your assessment. No, no, no, no, no. I think Eric and Recy have framed this perfectly. It is a Klan rally. It's a white nationalist terrorist Klan rally. And Brother Henderson is absolutely right about the Republican Party reconstruction, as you say.

See, white nationalism is a floating signifier. It can apply to different moments of time, different. So yes, during the 1860s and 70s, it was the radical Republicans, Charles Sumner and Thaddeus Stevenson. 1860s and 70s, it was the radical Republicans, Charles Sumner, Thaddeus Stevens. And yes, the Democratic Party, the party of Andrew Jackson, was the kind of locus for the white nationalist party. The white nationalist party can float anywhere. And because of the efforts of Brother Henderson and those stalwarts of the civil rights movement who penetrated the Democratic Party, it drove many of the open white nationalists into the

Republican Party. The brother said, we don't know history, and I'm not going to lay that at North Carolina A&P. I mean, I went to Tennessee State. I hoped that if he had gotten a degree from there, he'd be a little bit different. But Jack Robinson was a Republican who recognized what was happening very quick. Barry Goldwire was nominated in

1964. But to Erica's point and Reese's point again, this does not, this must be said over and over again. Even as the ratings were down yesterday because, you know, we don't really watch that bullshit. So, I mean, you know, that's just me. Some people hate watching. I watch because I really enjoy

my pen. And I'll tell you why. This is where I'm going with this, among others. Charles Blow said it again. Their job is to erase history and cloud reality. Pence standing at Fort McKinney, them using the Lincoln Memorial, the Jefferson Memorial, the White House. They are reclaiming their tool. They are reclaiming their symbols. So when you see Melania Trump trot out in her paramilitary green with her catatonic face lifted behind, moving from teleprompter to teleprompter, bullshit. What is she saying?

She's not talking to me. I don't share a country with Melania Trump. Are you very serious? Of all the first ladies in the history of the White House, only one of them been butt naked in porno. And so she represents the ideal of white woman House, only one of them been butt naked in porno. And so she represents the ideal of white womanhood for white men. That's very clear. I'm not mad at Kim Klasick or Vernon Jones. I'm not mad at Jack Brewer or David Cameron. Why? Because clearly their strategy is going to be to get this election close enough to steal. And they're trying to lash black overhyped masculinity to white

overhyped masculinity and maybe try to peel a few black men away from going to the polls. But when you saw Sterling Brown read that statement, brother, standing next to George Hill, the Milwaukee Buck, you reported on this two years ago. Sterling Brown is the brother who the damn Patarola police, punk ass police, thatze in the parking lot of the 7-Eleven in Milwaukee. When you saw Robert Horry earlier today or yesterday say, you know, if one of these cops takes my son's life, I'm going to take his life. I'm like Samuel Jackson. Yes. And when you saw Chris Webber, when you saw him tear up, those aren't tears of sadness, but he was looking down the whole time when he was talking about Charles Barkley. This is a man who is remembering when he was a boy coming out of school in Michigan to go to

University of Michigan. Then they stripped him of all their records. And this is a man who would say, I did everything right. Woe be unto you, you white nationalists. You're the white nationalists party in that Republican Party. And guess where you at right now? I want you to smile and mic. I want you to tell every lie you got, baby. I want you to stand in front of Fort McHenry. Because when Francis Scott Key wrote the Star Spangled Banner, there were black enslaved Africans in Baltimore swimming to get to the ships of the British. Because they were trying to get to the British because your white ass was on the wrong side of history. I want you to embrace the Lincoln Memorial. I want you to embrace the Jefferson Memorial and the White House.

I want you to throw Jackie Kennedy's roses out and remake the Rose Garden into a replica of Gorky Park in Russia. You know why? Because this ain't never been my country. And you know what I'm fighting for is my humanity. I want you to embrace it with your whole heart, baby, because some of these stupid people in the world now are going to be very clear that we each have to make a choice.

Are you going to go down the line with these fascists who are going to destroy you? A woman got the nerve to talk about she had breast cancer and her life was saved. That's why she supports President Trump, who is trying to overturn the very damn Affordable Care Act that saved her life. Do you want

to be on the same team as a nun who shook hands with the devil last night? Do you really want to be with that team? I encourage you to go back to 1915 when they refounded the Klan on the top of Stone Mountain. They had a Bible that they opened and burned a cross and stuck a sword over the top of the Bible. That's that thing.

David Cameron, you and your white wife, you put the cop that killed Breonna Taylor in jail. But guess what? I ain't even going to protest with you, baby. We're going to see you in the street. Come on, Dr. Tom. Folks, when Nikki Haley spoke, she talked about this, no, no racism. And you heard what Mike Pence said.

But this story here speaks to it. A Jacksonville, Florida couple whose home appraisal was very low. Tell you what happened. So the appraisal comes out. Give them a low appraisal. She goes, hold up.

This ain't how this thing went. So she then goes in and removes the black items. New appraisal comes out. Much higher value. Y'all, people keep talking about we don't have racism in America. But why do these things keep happening? And then you have those who say, oh, that's that's, you know, you're bringing those things up. Those are just, you know, small little details.

Now, they're not quite small details when you're African-American. And literally your financial future is being impacted by racism. So let me unpack it. The reason I say your financial future. Remember, most Americans, their wealth comes through home ownership. And so when you are in a situation where you have a home and you get less for your money, that's less money, which you can't invest, which you can't place elsewhere. That's what we have to understand, how racism still impacts us in the 21st century. Joining us right now is Abina Horton. She's what we have to understand how racism still impacts us in the 21st century. Joining us right now is Abina Horton. She's the woman who went through this here. Abina,

explain to folks exactly what happened here that caused you to say, uh, no, something is amiss here? Well, for me, it was I mean, when he came into the house, he was so rude to me in comparison to my husband. And he was so hostile when he saw me and sort of aggressive, just like you can tell when someone

has contempt for you. That was something that I could really feel in the room with him, and I just wanted him out of my house right away. Now, your husband is, again, so the guy who came was a white guy? Yes. Okay, so he comes to your home,

and you immediately pick up on that. Okay, go ahead. Well, I mean, he conversed with my husband first outside on our doorstep, and I could see that from my office and he was acting pretty normal. And then when he came into my office to look at the room, he just seemed very surprised and to me, very contemptuous. I felt like there was a shift sort of in the air. And to me, it felt like there was some personal issue that he had with me specifically. And so I just did not expect that the appraisal was going to go well.

I remember distinctly thinking that this appraisal is not going to go well. There was a certain number that we needed to hit so that we would be able to get the best rate for our refinance transaction. And I didn't think we were going to get it. So you thought, hey, this is really a 450 000 house well you know or just in that in that neighborhood right and then on the best day i would say you know like i've scanned zillow like most people do to just check and see what's different and i think that's about as high as i've ever seen it go so you know that's that's definitely kind of around the high end, I would say, you know, around $450,000, between $425,000, $450,000. But that's not the number that he came back with.

No, he came back with $330,000. So there was a difference of $135,000. Wow. A stroke of a pen. He took that much equity and again for the people who are watching to understand we would talk about uh home appraisals so when they come out what they do is they come out and they look at everything look at did you add a pool they look at condition of the home all those different things that had nothing to do with it yeah no that that had nothing to do with it. Yeah, no, that had nothing to do with it.

I have no idea why he chose the comps that he chose. I have no idea why he would appraise us at 330 when, you know, there's homes around us that are much smaller, fewer bathrooms, fewer bedrooms that were regularly going in the high threes. And the homes with four bedrooms like mine were going significantly higher than that. And the problem here that people don't understand is that when the homes are appraised, again, this is all subjective. This is not like there's a sheet here where it's okay if it's three bedrooms or four bedrooms. I mean, typically, actually, the way it's supposed to go is that when you do have larger square footage, more rooms, more bedrooms, more bathrooms, improved amenities, you get a higher appraisal. You would think and also I think one of the more subjective terms is condition of the home. Right. That's something that that factors in as well. So I think that's something where that really has to do with the eye of the home. Right. That's something that factors in as well. So I think

that's something where that really has to do with the eye of the appraiser. They're inside the house really observing, you know, small differences. They're looking for termites or looking for, you know, structural damage, that sort of thing. And they pretty much say good condition, bad condition, you know, very good condition, you know, something like that to to make the assessment. And it's a combination of factors between public records and what the appraiser is seeing. And for some reason, these two appraisers saw something that was one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars apart. Now, let's go let's go back. He was he was fine talking to your husband, right? Right. He appeared to be normal. And that's what my husband thinks as well.

But then he saw you. Correct. And what difference between you and your husband? Well, I'm a lady and I'm a black woman. So, you know, there was a bit of a difference.

I attribute the change to being I thought it was based on some personal characteristic, and my suspicion is that it was race. Right. But you're black, your husband's not. Correct. And so he sees a white guy, but then he sees you, all hell and all. So then you, being a lawyer, you say, and then your bank agreed with you on this one.

So then you did something that actually showed what the deal is. What did you do? So what I did was I took down all of our family pictures that showed that there were African-Americans living in the home. Took down holiday cards. Took down any books. I really am not sure at what these appraisers are looking at. But, you know, I took away anything visible that would... So basically, you stripped all the blackness out of the house.

I stripped the blackness out of the house, and I did not like that. It was very painful to do that. And then a new appraiser comes out. Same company, or...? So this was a different company because the bank hired a different company to handle it. New appraiser comes out, and then what number do you get?

We get 465. So 330, 465. 330, 465. I'm hearing a lot. This all started with a Facebook post, and there's been a lot of activity there talking about, well, you know, it could have been this. It could have been that it didn't necessarily have to have been race. But I mean, I mean, you don't go from 330 to 465 because one person said, I really like the crown molding. That's correct. Oh, and it's Abana, like Robin.

I'm sorry, Abana. I mean, that, that, so, so what, see the thing that, the reason that this is important because I deal with these white folks and some of these black people who are like, oh, y'all make too much out of this when it's like, no, this is precisely it. One of the reasons why you have the wealth gap is because black people's homes were greatly undervalued. They were not able to then sell those homes at a higher price and then pocket that money, invest that money. And so we had lower home values, which meant lower, a lower amount. And we didn't have much to play with. And this is, I mean, that $135,000, you take that, invest that, all of a sudden your children's children are impacted based upon

what you do with $135,000. And this is exactly what people, so when the Nikki Haley's of the world and the Mike Pence's of the world and people say, oh, no, there's no racism. No, this is racism at work right here. I think we all have biases. People of every race and color have have biases. And I think it's ridiculous to say that there are no biases, that there's no racism in the world. I mean, it's just disingenuous. I don't understand why you could even make that argument given that we're just 50, 60 years out of civil rights. That's not that much time, you know, to change hearts and minds. There's still that

undercurrent there. So, I mean, I do believe that systemic racism exists. And in this case, I would like, you know, the reason that I brought this out and that I want to educate people about it, and a lot of people don't know about this issue, is because I would like someone to do a study on this. Right. Oh, no, first of all, there have been studies. There have been studies. There have been blind testing. In Boston, they did this. They've done this when it came to showing of homes in the realtor. Oh, you're blind. No, we're going to show you these homes. And they're like, well, hold up. Show me the homes over there. No, no, no. We'll show you over here.

I mean, those things exist. Now, the company, the appraiser, what has happened to them? Did y'all report them? Anything happen? Alexa, turn on kitchen light. Excuse me. That was my son's bedroom, his light coming off. It's all right.

It's all right. So the appraiser, did y'all report this guy? Did y'all blast the company? What happened? So we reported the individual and the company to HUD. We have not blasted this individual. I have no intent to do that. I intend to let the investigation play itself out so that they can explain this $135,000 difference to me in a way that makes sense.

And if it does not make sense, I'm going to continue to believe that it was racism at work in my life. Are you going to sue him? I don't know that. Money has never been an issue with this. It's always been about basically my feelings and me wanting to tell people what happened to me right you know so i don't want to say either way especially since they're probably watching sue their asses look look i look the reason i understand it look i remember when uh i bought a previous home and the bank had the nerve to ask uh me and my wife for uh deposit slips because they did not necessarily believe the income.

I'm like, I'm not giving your ass on deposit slips. I'm like, that ain't happening. Like, plus, I ain't giving you that because the damn money direct deposit. Like, you know, damn deposit slip. But again, those are the things that happen. And then when you like yesterday, you know, know, we had, you know, people don't understand successful black people are impacted by, you know, I was debating this yesterday's Republican and I was like, boo, it don't matter if you're a successful black person. This is the stuff that happens where we get screwed. No, you can do everything right.

You know, go to the right schools, get the degrees, get married, have two kids and a dog, try to buy a house. And there's just all these little ways that add up to really keep you from attaining the same equality that other people have. Indeed, indeed. Well, look, good luck with it. First of all, thank you for sharing your story. The New York Times picked up on it. The Facebook post, a lot of people have seen it. And it's caused a lot of people to tell their story about what they've experienced as well. And hopefully what it also has done is cause folks who really didn't understand this to now be more mindful when it comes to home appraisal and to do this, make sure that more than one person actually is doing the home appraisal where you're getting a better understanding. Because yeah, you're right.

You should not have to strip your blackness in order to get a high value or the proper value of your home? I don't think it should be that subjective at all. Shouldn't be so subjective means there's a problem with the industry, whether it's race or whatever. Put that person on blast in the company and sue their ass. Okay. I'm done. We appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Good., panel. This is this is the thing, Recy, where people don't people just refuse to understand. And this is how black people are impacted. This is how we're impacted economically. That economic keeps us from being able to fund businesses, give to colleges a position for our children. And this is how this is a perfect example of how white people are able to have the highest amount of white wealth in the country and black folks for the lowest,

because that's how we get screwed. Absolutely. And I think that it's a perfect example of how when people try to suggest that economic reforms are going to solve racism. No, absolutely not. She didn't get a lower appraisal because a white person doesn't have Medicare for all. She got a lower appraisal because the person was flat out racist.

And, you know, this has a compounding impact because not only is it a matter of equity, but as she mentioned, it was a matter of her interest rate. And so the higher

your interest rate is, the more that you're paying on a monthly basis. So now you have the wage gap that black people experience or as a black woman, 61 cents on the dollar for what a white man makes. Now she's married to a white husband, so that kind of mitigates a little bit. But, you know, in terms of her specific racism that she's going to experience, you have the wage gap. Then you turn around and you have lower equity in your house. Then you turn around and you pay more on a monthly basis for the same for the house that is worth significantly more.

And so I'm glad that she's telling the story because at the end of the day, black people have to survive. And it's very painful to have to strip the blackness from your home. But for one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars, I think people would rather take down a couple of pictures and a couple of statues and not take their chances. But it should not take doing that. It should not take having to hire multiple appraisals. Those things are expensive. They're like four hundred and five hundred dollars, six hundred dollars. And so it's disgusting, but it's very insidious. It goes beyond redlining and it goes beyond all these things that people are already accustomed to expecting racism in the real estate industry. But this is the thing here, Greg, that you're right, we shouldn't have to take things

down because, again, all the people who keep saying, oh, no, we're all the same, we're all, everyone's in the same boat, no, you need to stop seeing color stop fixating on that and To your point earlier we can do all the right damn thing. We can go to the schools We cannot have a criminal record we can never do drugs We can never jaywalk We could sit here take the bass out our voice and have more treble in our voice. We can do jaywalk. We could sit here, take the base out of our voice and have more treble in our voice. We could do all those things. And then they're going to remind you, yo ass still black. Absolutely. And, Roland, you know, Sister Abner is a lawyer and she knows this.

I'm sure she took it in law school. I teach this every semester when I do my race law and change class at Howard. We go over the Fair Housing Act of 1968, which is in many ways very toothless. You have to understand that even complaining to HUD won't do anything. HUD has the ability to file a suit independent of

Aubyn and her husband. They can actually pursue this, but they won't. And what we just heard is not an outlying case. White realtors for years, actually since the passage of the Fair Housing Act, have said that when you're selling a home or refinancing a home, they encourage, particularly when they're selling a home, they encourage people to take out all the stuff that personalizes the home. That's what they say generally. But we understand that this is being

driven by perception. You see, money is only a marker for value, and value is a commingled thing. It isn't just about objectively measuring out the land and looking at the quality of the construction of the house. No, this is about perception. The New York Times article notes that before the second appraiser came, Abana took her husband, she and her husband's child, and went and left the house, leaving that white man there by himself. So the appraiser is looking through the lens of white nationalism, of course,

but that appraiser is calculating in their head value based on a potential sale to a customer. So this isn't just about how much the house is worth. It's about how much can we get on the market. And that is absolutely based on perception. The history of housing since the Fair Housing Act has revealed to us that it is a particularly ineffective tool when it comes to this specific category. Because again, this is being driven by perception and the appraiser's defense will be, this is what I thought I could get on the market. Now, if they were being honest, it would say,

this is what I think I can get on the market from a buyer. And it says they don't want to buy from a black person. It's the same reason they had restrictive covenants in housing mortgages. It's a difficult thing to win in a court of law. And I know Albina knows that, which is probably one of the reasons why she didn't really want to talk about it. Racy, go ahead. I think you meant Erica. I'm sorry. Erica. Yeah. And this kind of just goes back to show you that, you know, the whole kind of speech that many were given about being 10 times better, having to do more would ensure kind of submitting black life into a better part of society. It's not it because we cannot take our skin off. real addressing, really, that everything that we see systemically, whether visible or invisible, has really been created to diminish the quality of life for Black people and continue to hold

white people at this place, the pinnacle, the summit of what it means to live and to be free. We'll continue to experience and see things like this. And that is kind of the part of how we really traverse through Black life, understanding that, you know, while one colleague may be talking about refinancing their home and having it be a seamless process, there's so many different steps that we have to take in order to make sure that our process is something that is something that we could actually digest. So this is just another, um, full example of systemic racism and really just continuing to project that, uh, the best life is the white life. Well, uh, that is, uh, that is certainly the case. What we're dealing with folks got to go to break. We come back. Um, we're going to show you a couple of critical ads. One of them from

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Out of Detroit, Jacob Wohl, Jack Berkman, two absolute idiots. They just lie, lie, lie, lie, lie constantly. They actually are responsible for this. And this was put out by the Secretary of State of Michigan. This is a robocall that's been going out to black people in Detroit. Listen to this. Jared, the other thing that happened overnight is that the NBA has now postponed games, in large part as a result of a protest or boycott by the players.

This relates to the sort of large. This is the. The Civil Rights Organization, founded by Jack Berkman and Jacob Bull. Mailman voting sounds great, but did you know that if you vote by mail, your personal information will be part of a public database that will be used by police departments to track down old warrants and be used by credit card companies to collect outstanding debt? The CDC is even pushing to use records for mail-in voting to track people for mandatory vaccines.

Don't be tenacious to giving your private information to the maid. Stay safe and beware of those by mail. So the Secretary of State, go to iPad. This is what Jocelyn Benson put. My office has received a recording of a robocall targeting Detroit voters using racially charged stereotypes and false information to deter voting by mail. It is an unconscionable, indefensible, blatant attempt to lie to citizens about their right to vote. Jacob Wall and Jack Berkman, two insidious individuals who they've had numerous things in the past where they've lied, lied, lied. And to sit here and say, oh, your personal information,

this is the kind of stuff, Recy, that black folks better get used to. The Republicans are going to employ. They do not want black people turning out in this election. It's all about suppression. They do not have to convince you that Donald Trump

is going to be a good president. All they have to do is to convince you not to vote. And so we have to be very, very vigilant in how we are receiving information and making sure that we're educated. Voting plan A, voting plan B, voting plan C, and voting plan D. And then once you set those plans, you have to keep checking. We're only under 70 days away, so we don't have much longer to go, which is why we have to get prepared now. Recy, I'm sorry, Erica, go ahead. Yeah, absolutely. And when you think about the 2016 election, Michigan, Wisconsin were two of the three states that were heavily targeted.

And we saw voter suppression upwards of 200,000 votes in the state of Wisconsin based on voter ID laws. And when we see the margin of victory for Donald Trump, it was 77,000 votes. But that was because of a very, very concerted voter suppression action plan and Russian interference. And so these, you know, we're talking about being woke. This is a part of being woke, understanding that these kind of calls that are coming out of the normal during election season and that they're coming to areas where there are high concentration of black folks, that is something that is really designed only to, as Recy just said, to suppress your vote and really to create another level of voter apathy.

So people need to be aware that this is, you know, all of the guards have been taken off. They've got a 200 million dollar ad buy that's going to start being in effect. Labor Day weekend is only going to get worse from here. Get ready and be prepared to cast your ballot early and with friends. Greg, here's another story. Anthony, go to my iPad. This is a story by NBC. Viral pro-Trump tweets came from fake African-American spam accounts, Twitter says. And then the story reads that Twitter has taken action to stop a spam operation that pushed messages from fake accounts about black people abandoning the Democratic Party. The company removed two fake accounts and deleted the account of a San Diego man who spammed the platform.

Again, this is what they're went dim to rep, logged over 11,000 retweets on a single tweet that claimed that the user was a lifelong Democrat who was pushed to vote Republican by the Black Lives Matter movement. The tweet was posted shortly after the account was created Tuesday. First of all, that's the first sign. If an account just opened last week, they fake. Absolutely, brother. I mean, I agree. Everything that Reese and Erica have said in terms of this full spectrum strategy, the white nationalist party is going to win this election by stealing if they're going to win it. They are now, they've abandoned all pretenses. They are

speaking to their utterly racist base. They are in courts. There's a story that just broke today. The Trump administration won a victory in the Iowa courts when a judge said that the registrar couldn't send out information for people to get absentee ballots because they pre-filled out their names to send them out. There's going to be all kinds of lies told, like these two stories you just said. They're going to do everything they can to get it close enough to steal.

And when you read or listen to Greg Palais and many others, Ari Berman and them, they'll tell you they've been doing this for the last several cycles. So many absentee ballots that are turned in or provisional ballot votes are thrown away. Once they get the ballots, they can decide that the signatures don't match, which is why I have from Maryland, of course, my envelope to request an absentee ballot. But I'm going to be masked up, gloved up, and in a hazmat suit if I need to be. I'm getting in line and voting in person. Why? Because let's be very clear, folks who don't have the option yet, absentee. But if you can go in person, early vote.

If you can get off the day, take the day and go and vote. Why? Because what these white supremacists, what these white nationalists are getting ready to do is use every trick they have to get the election close enough to steal. And finally, for my deep friends and colleagues and comrades who are saying the vote doesn't matter, all the parties are the same. I understand that logic. I really do. The only thing I would ask you is that if and when they steal this election and you didn't vote, which meant you did vote by your absence, I just want to make sure that all of you are strapped, all of you are ready to take it to the streets and the bushes and that you can embrace what comes

next with your whole heart because what we are talking about is not a full embrace of the democratic agenda but what we're talking about is perhaps forestalling what may even be the inevitable which is the disintegration of this set the state project because these white boys gonna roll this into the wheels literally fall off So think twice before you say don't vote. Because if you're not ready to get in the street and do that, I think you better just go and strap up and check your voter registration and try to forestall this thing. Donald Trump is speaking tonight, but the folks at VoteVets,

they have something to say about a Gold Star family to Donald Trump. My son was the first person to die in combat under Donald Trump. Just five days into his presidency, Trump ordered Ryan's SEAL team into Yemen. Not from the situation room with all the intelligence assembled, but sitting across a dinner table from Steve Bannon. There was no vital interest at play, just Donald Trump playing big man going to war.

And when it went horribly wrong... When you lose a $75 million airplane, and more importantly, American life is lost and wounded, I don't believe that you can call it a success. Donald Trump demeaned my son's sacrifice to play to the crowd. For nearly four years, Trump has assailed our country's core values. When Russia put bounties on our troops' heads, Trump defended Putin instead of our military.

I think it's a hoax. He kneecapped the Postal Service to undermine our right to vote. This election will be the most rigged election in history. He's misled us throughout the pandemic. Yeah, no, I don't take responsibility at all. 200,000 Americans will have died before we vote. They and Ryan have one thing in common. It didn't have to be but for Donald Trump. If you hear one thing, let it be this. Don't trust Donald Trump with your kid's life or your own. Folks, certainly a strong ad there. But man, we saw this other ad.

A former Trump Department of Homeland Security official lays out why this man should not get four more years. She said he comforts white supremacy. Hi, I'm Elizabeth Newman. I am first and foremost a follower of Jesus Christ. I'm a wife and a proud mom. I voted for Trump in 2016 primarily because of the pro-life issue. I served in the Trump administration at the Department of Homeland Security and became the Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism and Threat Prevention. In my role as Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism, we looked at emerging threats, including the growing threat from domestic terrorists. And over the period of 2017 to 2018, we started to see that rise of the white supremacist agenda.

I and my leadership at the Department of Homeland Security were very clear that we found the ideology behind white nationalism, white supremacy to be a growing threat. A very common refrain that I was asked was, does the president's rhetoric make your job harder? And the answer is yes. The president's actions and his language are in fact racist.

Things like, they're good people on both sides or send them back from where they came from. Those words gave permission to white supremacists to think that what they were doing was permissible. And I do think that the president's divisive language is indirectly tied to some of the attacks that we have seen in the last two years. The reason government is supposed to exist is to plan and prepare for external threats like we're seeing today with COVID. There were plans put in place for a pandemic for 15 years. When we started to see that a pandemic was on its way to our shores in January, any number of experts told me we need to be executing on these plans. But from January until March 11th, what you saw instead was a number of

good public servants attempting to do their job and the president telling them to stop because he didn't want the economy to tank and he didn't want a distraction from his campaign. I'm sorry, Mr. President, you were hired to handle America's worst day and you've absolutely failed. I do not think that we can afford four more years of President Trump. We are less safe today because of his leadership. We will continue to be less safe as long as he is in control. And this year I'll be voting for Joe Biden. Look, this is somebody who was on the inside, Recy, who said, yep, aiding and abetting white supremacists.

As was she. So let's start there. However, I do think that it's important to have these folks jump ship, you know, and and blow the whistle and blow the lid off of what's happening, that we all see what's happening. But it does add a little bit more credibility when it's coming from somebody like Elizabeth Newman. But let's not forget that there was footage of her testifying about the child separation policy. So I understand that you have a lot of Republicans that are going to try to rehabilitate their complicitness or actual co-conspirator role in this Trump administration's white nationalist agenda. But if she wants to speak out now and if she wants to, you know, inform people about how dangerous he is, then good on her for that very specific thing. Go right ahead, Erica. Yeah, slow clap. And for me, it's a little bit

annoying and aggravating from two places. One of them is which when people talk about their faith and as a person, I've been very forthcoming. I am a believer and I do definitely have a relationship with Jesus Christ. And I just don't understand that if a person have a relationship with Jesus Christ. And I just don't understand that if a person has a relationship with Christ, how they can definitely support the son of a Klansman. So that's one thing. So I would love for people to stop invoking their faith, particularly in support of somebody who does not read the Bible,

called the second book of Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, who clearly has not been to any worship services that spends in our taxpayer money. Most of his weekends golfing at one of his several golf courses, either in Virginia or in Bedminster. But then for after that, kind of what we've seen after, you know, kind of the fallout from this is that people write books. They go on all of these different shows. They're paid. And so her position, if it is very authentic and that she's, you know, using her experience to say these are the things that I've seen and, in fact, that I'm going to vote for him, I mean, well, good on her. But I'm hoping that she's talking to the people that are in her family, the folks that follow kind of the same line of thinking when it comes to pro-life, whatever issue they want to bring forth to say this is the reason that they voted for Donald Trump,

whatever excuse it is that they make, do better and influence the people around you that are going to be more likely to vote for Trump, because most of us did not support him and will not support the son of a Klansman. Hey, folks, the earlier the Major League Baseball commissioner, he was trying to get the Mets as well as the Marlins to do some sort of demonstration but then play the game an hour later. The players had another idea.

This is what they did, y'all. They took the field, had a 42-second moment of silence. Then both teams walked off, and the only thing they left on the field had a 42 second moment of silence then both teams walked off and the only thing they left on the field it's a black lives matter shirt watch this and now lewis brinson announced as the leadoff hitter for miami and all of theets on the field are removing their hats as well. The The And now after a moment of silence that lasted 42 seconds, the day before we celebrate Jackie Robinson Day, the Mets are exiting the field after both teams exchanged a wave of caps to one another. So it would appear as though after a poignant moment

that the Mets and Marlins will not be playing baseball tonight. And the Black Lives Matter shirt. Left on top of home plate. I keep telling people out there, I understand that folks want to see things sped up, but I'm telling you, you have not seen this. You have not seen white ballplayers standing with black ballplayers. So much has changed since Colin Kaepernick took a knee in 2016. And to see them, people thought, oh, great, we're going to have a game. And they come out. And some of y'all are saying, why 42 seconds?

It's because tomorrow is the anniversary of when Branch Rickey and Jackie Robinson met the first time, which led to him being signed by the Brooklyn Dodgers. That's what tomorrow is. That's what the 42 seconds was for. That right there, people can say symbolism means nothing, Recy. But these things do matter when you have this generation who is saying, no, we're going to shut it down. And if y'all don't like it, tough, we're not going to play. It absolutely does matter. It's so striking, though, how we have to do all of this for what should be such a basic concept that Black lives matter. I mean, this is really

exposing the depths of the resistance to our black humanity in this country. And we're not enslaved peoples anymore. You know, that ended, you know, a century or so ago. But we're still grappling with people who don't even want to acknowledge that. I mean, even at the at the Republican National Convention, the Klan convention that's been going on, they absolutely refuse to say Black Lives Matter. They'll say these specific Black Lives Matter, but not even using the three words together. And so it's jarring even as a black person to just see the level of protests required for this just basic understanding for people to have. But I'm hoping that it's really, um, that much more jarring to, to white people out there. I'm, I'm not a person who has a whole lot of faith in this necessarily, um, waking people up immediately, but hopefully the cumulative effect of people, not just black people,

but not just one particular team, but a galvanization around this notion that black people should not be gunned down by the police. Right. I hope that it shakes people out of this complacency and this just stubborn belligerence about black lives mattering. And then, of course, you want to see how whiteness works. Erica, here is Brian Urlacher. He posted this on his Instagram stories. Brett Favre played the Monday Night Football game the day his dad died through four TDs in the first half and was a legend for playing in the face of adversity.

NBA players boycott the playoffs because a dude reaching for a knife wanted on a felony sexualist warrant was shot by police. Keep in mind, Ron Urlacher has a black son. Right. And when we think about Brett Favre,

also know that, you know, it wasn't but a few weeks ago that he was golfing with the son of a Klansman. It just kind of shows what the priorities are in this country. But along the lines of the Major League Baseball, this is kind of a precedence that has been set because when you consider the percentage of black ballplayers, it's about 7%. It's not that high. So to have this overarching statement that is made,

to really penetrate the minds of those people on the other side of the screen that are Black and white, but mostly white, does say something. And it does kind of maybe steal the moment for a bit to give more consideration for really something, Reesey said, you know, stringing together those three words in a demonstrative way that black lives do matter and they should matter because we should not be faced with assault on every end just for being black. All right, folks, that is it for us. Dr. Carr had the court had to jump off. We still appreciate him being on the show today. Reesey and Erica as well. Hey, I did not forget, y'all, that Senator Kamala Harris spoke today,

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