#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Jasmine Crockett UNLEASHED: Rips GOP Over ICE Raids, $221M Waste, and White Supremacy SILENCE
Episode Date: June 20, 2025In a blistering congressional hearing, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett dismantled the GOP’s fear tactics, called out their silence on white supremacy, and demanded answers for the $221 million sp...ent on a propaganda ICE operation no one asked for. 🔥 “This is a show for a reality TV president.” 🔥 “Not immigrants — it’s y’all making people unsafe.” 🔥 $221 million wasted on fear, not safety 🔥 ICE raids, Marines in the streets, and silence on real threats This is what accountability sounds like. #CrockettUnleashed #ICEraids #WhiteSupremacySilence #RolandMartinUnfiltered #FireReels #JasmineCrockett #PoliticalTheater #GOPExposed Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork 👉🏾 Use Cash App by visiting Stripe https://buy.stripe.com/7sI3ccgYyfSQ8y45kl 👉🏾 PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered Venmo ☛https://venmo.com/rmunfiltered Zelle ☛ roland@rolandsmartin.com Annual or monthly recurring #BringTheFunk Fan Club membership via paypal ☛ https://rolandsmartin.com/rmu-paypal/ Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Well, first things got heated
in the House Oversight Reform Committee
and Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett
was in the thick of it holding Republicans accountable
when it comes to the millions being spent
on immigration in this country
and how they are wasting taxpayer money for what she called political theater.
And thank you so much to our governors.
And I wanna say, I apologize.
I apologize for the abuse that you are facing
in this committee that is supposed to be about waste,
fraud and abuse.
And I also apologize for wasting your time
because this is nothing more than political theater.
Now again, this committee is supposed to be about
waste, fraud, and abuse.
We did not have to have this full creation of Doge,
the committee itself, that is our job.
So what I wanna talk about is what,
something that the American people may wanna know,
which is economically, how is this impacting them?
These failed immigration policies that are
only put on so that they can have a show because we have a reality show president who seemingly
still believes that this is all about TV instead of real lives.
So let me talk about something really quickly because I want to clarify something because
I believe that all of you understand the importance of something like tourism.
Are you aware, any of you, are you aware as to whether or not tourism in the United States
is anticipated to decrease to the extent that we are estimated to lose $12.5 billion in
international vendor spending in just the year 2025?
I can answer as the tourism capital of the country.
I assume you could.
Tourism's already down.
It is down in the North country
where the Canadians refuse to come over
because of the hostility toward their country.
It's happening in New York City.
It's happening at our sporting events, our theater.
There's a ripple effect throughout our entire economy
because of the change in attitude that our country country that once welcomed people from all over the world to visit and recreate and to
live here now feels like a very hostile place to them.
It is going to have an economic impact on our bottom line without a doubt.
So let's talk about it a little bit more.
So I am supposed to have a number of FIFA games in Dallas.
And I am fully anticipating that we are going to have a problem because I've been receiving phone calls
that people don't feel safe coming here.
And it's not the immigrants, it's this government
that is making them feel unsafe.
But let me also do this, because they love to cherry pick.
They can find, you know, any one person that has been killed
and if they've been killed by an immigrant,
then God darn it, every single immigrant is going out
and they are killers.
And that is the problem.
But they don't wanna talk about white supremacy.
I don't know how many hearings we gonna have
about the fact that there's been this one immigrant
that killed this one person.
And no, I'm not excusing any killings
by them or white supremacists.
But they haven't had these hearings.
We didn't have a hearing on Buffalo
and what happened there.
We didn't have a hearing on El Paso
and what happened there. We didn't have a hearing on Charleston and what happened there. We didn't have a hearing on El Paso and what happened there. We didn't have a hearing on Charleston and what happened there. So it's
interesting that they pick and choose because it seems like they love to pal around with the white
supremacists and so they don't want to talk about certain other things. But economically, I want to
make sure that we're making this point again because I know that Governor Pritzker, you are
the beneficiary of a lot of things from the state of Texas.
And a lot of people believe that Republicans are fiscally responsible, but instead they
are actually fiscally irresponsible because what he spent was a whopping $221 million
transporting people from Texas to your state.
Something tells me that he could have done something else with that $221 million.
In addition to that, I know that there's been some conversations about what's going on in
LA, and they want to say that it's riots because they didn't want people to keep talking about,
say the Epstein files or whatever other drama was popping off between the president and
his little friend.
So they wanted to change the conversation to immigration
because they feel like, well, the polling is in our benefit,
but let me tell you something.
If they cared about making sure
we were gonna be fiscally responsible,
they would tell the American people
that it cost them $134 million
to send the National Guard to LA
for the quote unquote riots
that the governor didn't ask for, nor
did the mayor of LA ask for.
And they sent them over there and they say that they care about our service members,
yet they sent them and they were laying on the floor.
They did not provide for food.
So I don't know why we would believe that number one, they want to fix this.
They don't want to fix this because the brokenness is a feature not a flaw of
the system because it is beneficial to them when it comes to campaigning.
If they can't stoke fear, then why are they going to say have anybody vote for them?
Because that's what people are doing.
They're voting out of fear.
But Ms. Perryman, we know each other a little well. And I know you got a law degree.
And it seems like we all need law degrees in here nowadays
to understand the Constitution.
So really briefly, I just want to make this point.
There is a certain person that was afforded, say, due process.
But let's say if, say, Donald Trump had been charged
with all of these cases that he got charged with
in four different jurisdictions,
if he wasn't afforded due process.
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somewhere, right?
That would be a possibility.
And then maybe we wouldn't have a tear of war or anything else that we're dealing with
or all the other nonsense.
But the point is he was afforded due process.
And regardless of the political opposition, Democrats, Republicans
and independents, I thought, believe that due process should be afforded to everybody,
even him.
Due process is for everyone.
Okay.
So the Fifth Amendment doesn't say that it's just for the people that are Americans?
It does not.
It says anybody on our soil?
It's for everyone.
Okay.
It's pretty simple.
I don't know why we are having issues,
but I thank you and I will yield.
Well folks, Pennsylvania Congresswoman Summer Lee,
she got in on the action as well
and she didn't hold her tongue.
I hope it's funny the lack of decorum that we get
and people drop, we do drop the gentlemen act here oftentimes when attacking women who aren't able to defend themselves
with equal time but that's kind of the theme here right attacking Americans or
people who are not able to defend themselves or at least who Republicans
hope can't defend themselves and that's what we're seeing essentially in Los
Angeles so I would say that this hearing is quite timely what's happening with ice
in the military in Los Angeles
is terrifying and is directly caused by Trump's policies
and his cruelty.
It was Trump's overzealous ICE agents
who started this specific incident.
And now they want us to get bogged out
and arguing over the right types of protest
or the right types of way or the right way
to defend yourself, the mythical perfect type,
so that we could
ignore that Trump is the one who is escalating all of this. Trump is the one who ordered in
thousands of National Guardsmen over the objection of Governor Newsom, something that hasn't been
done since 1965. Trump is the one deploying Marines not on an enemy abroad, but on the
American people who are exercising their First Amendment
right in this instance.
The only opportunity that they have to defend themselves against lawless lawmakers who are
imposing cruelty upon them.
For party of so-called law and order folks, they sure are stampeding over people's constitutional
rights and intentionally inciting more chaos, more fear,
more anxiety, and increasing the likelihood
that people will get hurt.
In the end, what's happening in Los Angeles
is just one of many incidents where
Trump and his administration have not given a single down
about people's safety.
For one, the ICE and DHS agents that are arresting people
or raiding places often don't even
have any kind of uniform or identifying badge their masks and they're in unmarked cars. Miss
Perryman just briefly why is it so dangerous to have masks, plain clothes,
ICE agents arresting people? I'll just thank you Congresswoman for your
question. I'll go back to what I said before that we know our Constitution
recognizes and our country
recognizes the importance of trust between local law enforcement, the federal government,
and governors.
And what we're seeing here is a breach of trust.
It's an escalation.
And it's dangerous for the American people.
Trump said he was only going to go after undocumented criminals, but that's clearly not the case. Whether through incompetence or straight-up racial
profiling, ICE and DHS agents are wrongfully arresting US citizens. We've
talked about it today and they're, and catching these mistakes often happens
too late after an American citizen has already been illegally thrown into
another country and Trump's administration is doing nothing to get them back.
These agents are also going into previously
protected spaces, as we've discussed,
like churches and schools and hospitals.
DHS agents tried to get into an elementary school
by lying that they had the permission from the parents.
That is a cartoonish level of evil.
ICE also arrested a Massachusetts high school senior, Marcelo Gomez de Silva, on his way to volleyball practice. Governor Walls, you're
a former teacher and coach. Do you think these kinds of actions create
instability for students and you worry about increasing anxiety of kids coming
to school? Well thank you congressman. I certainly do. Creating that safe
environment where our kids can come
and the expectation is to learn, they certainly do.
Once again, there's no reason to use these enforcement actions
at those locations when there are other tools.
And I think, again, this false equivalency
that we do not want violent criminals to be arrested,
detained, and go through due process.
We do, but hugely detrimental to the educational system, hugely detrimental to a system that
is dependent on trust and the goodwill of everyone in that school system.
So yeah, it is detrimental.
Thank you, Governor Walz.
These same kids getting arrested are often being separated from their families.
They are scared.
They're alone. An attorney is one of the few resources they had access to
that is now being taken away as well.
The Trump administration's canceled contracts
with legal groups that represent
those undocumented children in immigration court.
This is gonna force thousands of kids
as young as two years old to represent themselves
very quickly as we're running out of time.
Ms. Perryman, how's a two-year-old
supposed to represent themselves in court?
A two-year-old can't represent itself in court, him or herself in court.
And I'll just say that we are in court every single day seeking to try to ensure that people
have access to legal representation, which of course this administration is really seeking
to curtail.
They're seeking to ignore due process rights.
I was going to say, would you say that it is due process if a two-year-old is left to
represent themselves?
Absolutely, it's a flagrant violation of our Constitution.
It's also something that shocks the conscience.
We'll leave it there.
Thank you, I yield back.
Zabora, one of the reasons why we like to show
the full five minutes of House members
and some of these Senate hearings is because a lot of folks
never actually see or hear Black Caucus members in action. People often talk about, well, what are
they doing? I don't see them standing up. I don't see them fighting. But these things happen. We
know that Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is trying to become the next ranking member, that is the leading Democrat on this House Oversight
Committee. And so, you know, people need to understand that when we talk about
the House and the Senate, the rules are different. The power is different. And
the reality is you use these hearings to be able to put the...
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your
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of actually what's going on in this country.
Definitely, you can hear it in both of those young ladies,
the way they were able to just talk about
how harmful this is, how wasteful this is.
Even in me working with deaf kids this summer
trying to teach employment skills,
their parents are worried these ice rays are creating a place where we can give our students
the tools they need so they can be successful in the future and they're worried about ice
rays and how that's going to impact their families. You're hearing people say, you know, it's not impacting us, so why are we worried about it?
But when you see kids and them writing letters and saying,
I may not have access to my freedom to do it,
I may have to go back to Mexico or wherever they came from,
this is just so disheartening.
To have our leaders being on the front lines,
running after positions that put them in oversight committees
that will stop some of these things.
We are not powerless.
We have to get out.
We have to be active.
We have to unify.
And we have to fight for the things that are super important
for our kids, for our future, and for a country
that has always been built on so many diverse individuals and diverse
groups being in this country.
Listening to their, just listening to the power in what she was saying is so important
that we identify that we gotta stand up.
We can't just be sitting back twirling our thumbs while they're working our communities, destroying our
communities and agitating the protests that are peaceful? You know, Reece, there are a lot of
people, I hear some African Americans, man, this stuff don't involve us. This ain't, we ain't got
nothing to do with this here. Folk had better wake the hell up. I've read this the last two days and I know I
couldn't wait to read this for you and Greg and that is Christopher Ruffo had
posted this on his sub stack earlier this week where he said that at the same
time as we saw demonstrated in Portland, Oregon during the George Floyd riots,
the agencies should dispatch unmarked vans to follow key agitators and snatch them from the streets while the media are not looking.
The most effective riot control is to take movement leaders off the field, infiltrate their networks, disrupt the flow of funding,
enroll them up in federal investigations, denying the left trained protest leaders now
will create a strong precedent for the rest of the president's term. If these folks don't think that they will do this to black activists, they are out of
their minds.
They've been doing it to us since you think of the Black Panther Party and SNCC and all
of these other organizations that were infiltrated.
They've been doing this to us.
This is their game plan.
They've always had it.
So we can't be-
No, no, no.
I'm sorry
reesee reesee go yeah you know what um it's past the time of of hypothesizing about what they plan
to do they are already doing it these are the people that felt like they didn't go far enough in swashing the Black Lives Matter protests.
So they are chomping at the bit, itching to get black people. Be very clear about that.
And I know that there is some sentiment amongst some people, not all, that this is about protesting.
And well, black people don't get out there and protest because that's what
they're going to use as an excuse to wrap you up.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't have to be protesting.
You could just be walking home.
There was a lady yesterday, it was a white lady I saw two days ago who was trying to
go to her apartment building who was attacked by the police.
So as long as the-
That was a black woman. That was a black woman from,
I'm sorry, that was a woman from Chile who was on vacation with her child and they snatched her in
New York City and left her daughter there stranded and held that woman for eight hours and hell,
she was just here on vacation. Absolutely. Well, and we've seen even in it's really racial profiling, but we've seen where
American citizens, military officers who are just plain clothes at the time, who are detained.
The reality is you don't want to not just end up in South Sudan or Djibouti, but you
don't want to be in the crosshairs of these people at all. And so the presence of 4,800 military personnel
under the thumb of Donald Trump in any city is a problem. Greg Abbott is, I believe I read,
going to unleash 5,000 National Guards. You see? For what? People are going to be trying to go to
Juneteenth, barbecues and shit, do some line dances, and yet he's gonna be sitting there
unleashing all of these military people.
So even if we're not going to a protest,
you go into the barbecue, you go into a picnic,
the presence of these forces is a problem
for black people, point blank theory.
They don't need an actual reason.
Your existence is reason enough for them.
And so that's why we're trying to warn people to stay woke,
stay prepared, and stay vigilant.
If you don't want to get out there and hold protest lines
and be on the front lines, OK.
But you still need to keep your head on the swivel.
Greg, these Black folk better recognize,
this ain't just about, this ain't about Latinos, this ain't about migrants.
No, these, Terese's point, they are pissed off
with what happened with Black Lives Matter.
They're pissed off that it was able to become
the first black protest in American history
where a majority of American citizens supported.
And that's why they attacked, that's why the right wing media attacked Black Lives Matter
with everything they had in 2021.
They attacked critical race theory in 2022.
They attacked woke in 2023.
They attacked DEI in 2024.
They are absolutely angry with what I call the third reconstruction.
And they said, oh, I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time.
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no we are going to destroy this y'all ain't black folks you negroes ain't having no footprint
ever again that's their dream uh it's a it's dying dream. This is their death rattle. And like many trapped
animals, they are the most dangerous when they are facing their end. The strongest and
only consistent diversity, equity, and inclusion grouping in the history of United States of
America is whiteness. The DEI intellectual Christopher Ruffa, who if he were a black man would not be writing or talking about anything, but
because he is a white man and a white nationalist, he's promoted and platformed to talk about
things he doesn't understand, is giving voice to their fantasy. It's a dying fantasy but in its death
rattle it is perhaps its most dangerous. I spent yesterday in New
York at the Schomburg Center testifying before the New York State
Reparations Commission. I was there last year when Governor Hokel, who we saw
testifying today there in Congress, signed the bill in the legislation creating the Study
Commission in New York. And as I anticipated, I wrote my remarks fully anticipating that
I would be shouted at from the audience, from the descendants of slaves crowd, which they
did. I kind of smiled. This recorded is out there on the New York state website.
And you'll see me kind of chuckle and say,
I'm here for all the smoke, all the baby smoke.
But I bring it up for this reason.
Afterward, I had a long conversation
standing outside of Schomburg on 135th and Malcolm X
with many of these folks, these Freedmen,
these Adas folk who I embrace because I understand the pain
that they're speaking from.
But as we had the conversation, which was very amicable,
and you know, because we're talking with a spirit
of generosity, we all want the same thing,
but what melted away from them was any logic
connected with this blackface nativism.
The idea in New York City of all places that you could somehow separate yourself from the
multi-ethnic multicultural polyglot that is New York City and stand on the other
side opposite people who are in harm's way exactly like you and who to your
point are in harm's way exactly like them, is absurd on its face and
their arguments melted away.
I said all that as a backdrop to this.
That House Oversight Committee, which is run by another DEI politician, James Comer, who
if he were a black man, would be excoriated widely for being as stupid as he is, and of
course the Congresswoman from Rousselmania, congresswoman Marjorie Taylor
Green from Georgia, another DEI politician, if she were a black woman would be widely
excoriated.
When we saw Summer Lee and Jasmine Crockett do what they are going to do increasingly
and Maxwell Frost on that committee, which is assume leadership in a democratic party
who is still nursing the fantasy that you can make peace with these white nationalists, which means
they are soft white nationalists.
It's coming down to this.
We will embrace the politics of solidarity, regardless if people want to throw up with
this person doesn't like this person, or this group said this about this, you know what?
Later for that.
Because these people are in the streets trying to act as if they can sustain this bullying. They're bullies. You know what
you do with a bully? You punch them dead ass in the mouth in politically organizing in
the courts and they will fold like the cheap DEI suits they are. But at this moment, this
is not the moment to talk about my friend, my colleague, this is not the moment to turn
your back on other people because they are sending these punk ass jack
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us to respond with, huh, or I, I, no.
Saturday is going to be a showdown friends.
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conversation on on on Saturday night and Sunday and then when you come back with
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