#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Jawan Dallas' Family Views Bodycam Video, OH Cops Cleared in Jayland Walker Shooting

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

11.28.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Jawan Dallas' Family Views Bodycam Video, OH Cops Cleared in Jayland Walker Shooting   The family of a black Alabama man who was tased to death by Mobile police of...ficers responding to a burglary in progress viewed the bodycam video.   The attorney for  Jawan Dallas' family is here to describe what they saw when the officers killed an innocent black man. Eight Ohio police officers who fatally shot Jayland Walker are cleared by internal police investigation, saying they did not violate any police policies.  For those who say your vote does not matter, a Louisiana sheriff's race was decided by a single vote.  Yes, one vote.   Hundreds joined Jimmy Carter in paying their respects to Rosalynn Carter, including current and past presidents and former first ladies. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:44 who was tased to death by Mobile police officers responding to a burglary in progress viewed the body cam video today. The attorney for the family of Jawan Dallas is here to describe what they saw when the officers killed this innocent black man. Eight Ohio police officers who family shot Jalen Walker have been cleared by internal police investigation
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Starting point is 00:03:28 Martel Martel On July 1st, 36-year-old Juwan Dallas was tased to death by police officers in Mobile, Alabama. They mistook him for a burglary suspect. The body cam video has not been released publicly, but Juwan's family and the attorneys viewed the disturbing video today. Harry Daniels is representing the family. He joins us from Atlanta to describe what they saw in the video.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Harry, glad to have you back on Roland Martin Unfiltered. First of all, let's just deal with this here. Okay, so describe for people what happened. How did they mistake Juwan for the actual burglar? Well, Roland, that's very interesting, and thanks for having me on. It was a phone call, 911 call that was received of a possible burglary, a home invasion. During that phone call, it was discovered that it was not a burglary or home invasion at all. It just was a matter of somebody being on another person's property. At best, the police responded to one location. The location where the burglary took place was down the road,
Starting point is 00:04:51 and the location where Jawan Dallas was located was about, I'd say at least about 1,000 yards away, if not more, 1,000 feet away, if not more. But anyway, the police in route, they saw Juwan Dallas, and they saw another person standing outside, down the street away from the phone call of the original complaint, where a particular burglary or a home invasion or a trespasser took place. The first person they saw was Juwan Dallas,
Starting point is 00:05:23 another individual there, Costa Juwan, and this other individual, started questioning them. Jawan and them tell him, we don't have anything to do with anything. We don't know anything. We have nothing to do with it. Eventually, they asked for IDs. One individual gave his ID. Jawan was in the process of giving his ID, but he was still being questioned about the potential
Starting point is 00:05:47 burglary. So he was distracted at the same time trying to find his ID in the car and tell law enforcement he has nothing to do with anything. He don't know anything. He don't fit the description or anything. At some point, one of the officers tells Jawan, hey, get out of the car.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Okay? Jawan complied., get out of the car. Okay. Juwan complied. He gets out of the car. Once he gets out of the car, he walks around the back of his car. He tries to take off running. At that time, he was tackled by one of the officers. Both officers engaged him during that struggle. Juwan was complaining that he could not breathe. He was punched several times by officers. He was tased at minimum that we know six times. We heard the taser discharge over 13 times. It sounded like somebody was being electrocuted to death. And in this whole process, the one, he eventually puts him in handcuffs.
Starting point is 00:06:45 He's laying on his back. He's telling the officers, I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I have asthma. Help me. Please help. In fact, during the altercation where he has been beaten by law enforcement, Taze, you can hear him on the video crying out for help.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Somebody help me. Help me. Bystanders saw this incident. They also made statements that the police did not have to tase or beat him like that. You can hear that on the video as well. Eventually, like I said, Juwan's placing the handcuffs. He's begging for help. He told me he can't breathe. He has asthma. One of the officers telling him, shut the F up.
Starting point is 00:07:18 He's going to punch him in the stomach multiple times. Juwan at some point tells them that he don't want to be like George Floyd. Eventually, another officer responded to the scene, a young black officer that was listening to
Starting point is 00:07:38 Juwan and propped him up in a comfortable position so he could breathe. At some point, another supervisor officer responded to the scene, told him to roll over his back. When he rolled over his back, he continued to complain, I can't breathe, I can't catch my breath. Eventually, he was transported to a squad car where he continued to complain about unable
Starting point is 00:07:59 to breathe. His chest hurt. He couldn't breathe. They were not, the ambulance responded. There was no sense of urgency or care for juwan uh they put a oxygen indicator on him to check his pulse and oxygen intake but he kept telling them over and over i can't breathe please help me i'm dying please help me eventually he lost consciousness and he never again in consciousness they started chest
Starting point is 00:08:21 compressions and he died right there on that body camera. I mean, I'm just, I keep saying this repeatedly on this show. How traffic stops lead to black men dying. You mistake, the guy wasn't even involved. Well, they did a mistake. And what happened? So here's sort of how this mentality is. Oh, he takes off running.
Starting point is 00:08:53 But okay, you got his car. You know how to track him down. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't a mistake of identity as it relates to him. The individuals who were crossing somebody's yard, the trespassers, alleged trespassers, they had ran in another direction. Juwan was telling them, hey, I saw some people running in that direction. So not only they knew he was not the one that was engaged in any trespassing, he identified, hey, this direction these people ran in.
Starting point is 00:09:26 But they didn't believe him. Black man in South Alabama, they didn't believe what he was telling them. During the investigation, they determined, obviously, that we already knew he had nothing to do with any trespass or burglary. The people who, in fact, made
Starting point is 00:09:41 the phone call, they are the witnesses of this beating and tasing of Jawan Dallas. They were the ones who said, you shouldn't have, you didn't have to do him like that. He had nothing to do with this. It wasn't him. But nevertheless, we have an innocent, innocent young man whose life cut down short, two children.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Roland, you know, when I saw this video, you and I have covered a lot of cases that we have. A lot of different cases. This is probably the worst I've seen. I don't say that lightly because I wouldn't. I've seen some bad stuff in this line of business. But this is one of the worst I've seen.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And to compound that, this man is completely innocent. Innocent. No matter how you slice it, you kill a person who was engaging in lawful, being lawful, simply being a citizen, wrong place at the wrong time. And in the state of Alabama, he was not required to produce his identification. The statute is very clear. Even if he was suspected of a committed crime and he was not suspected of a committed crime, the only thing he had to present
Starting point is 00:10:50 was his name, address, and purpose of why he was there. That's it. That's what law requires in Alabama. But no, that was not the case. They demanded his identification. Like you said, he was in the process, but they escalated the situation.
Starting point is 00:11:05 The district attorney took a position and said he engaged. I told him that was a damn lie. We saw the entire video. And one of the hardest videos that I had to watch as a lawyer with the family, you can imagine me as an attorney watching the video and his mother and his father watching this video and seeing that child basically getting beaten and tased to death. Another, again, innocent brother dead. And what's the state of those officers?
Starting point is 00:11:39 Well, immediately, I think it was on administrative leave for about a week. They were cleared. I think it was on administrative leave for about a week. They were cleared. To my understanding, it's still the Department of Justice investigation going on. The district attorney submitted the case to the grand jury for possible indictment. Roller, that means nothing to me because at the end of the day, in the autopsy report, even though it says the matter of death or cause of death was accidental, it says the contributory factors were law enforcement engagement.
Starting point is 00:12:08 If law enforcement was unlawful, the unlawful engagement, and as a result, they contributed to his death, then you got an innocent man where they contributed to his death and they shouldn't have been charged. The DA wasn't trying to seek charge. He basically punted, gave it to some citizens with a whole bunch of things
Starting point is 00:12:24 for them to try to consider, and brought the people in to testify in the defense. Probably the officers, medical examiners who said the man of death was accidental, but at the same time, even if that man of death is accidental death and there was a designed purpose to kill him, you contributed to his death by your inaction that was unlawful. There's no way you can get around that. So, you know, we've actually appealed it to the main justice with the Department of Justice and the Attorney General because we knew from the rip that this was going to be problematic in that region trying to get a matter of justice for this man. DeJuan Dallas, I repeat to you, this video
Starting point is 00:13:03 is right up there with George Floyd. The only difference is that you have an amateur in George Floyd who recorded it. Here in the state of Alabama, Alabama does not, body cameras are not considered public record. And the family was able to come see it because they just passed a law that would have an effect on September 1st of this year. If that law wouldn't affect, we would not have ever seen itself in litigation. But this video is one of the worst videos. If you come out, you see it, you'll never forget it. And I understand probably why they don't want to come out because there's probably a lot of civil unrest in Mobile, Alabama, and probably across the country is this video release.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So our next step is to file a lawsuit. I'm moving forward working with the Department of Justice as best we can to get some justice from this family because it is horrific. Being myself, we actually have myself, Ben Crump, Lee Merritt, and John Burris. You know, I don't want to call us a dream team, but we're pretty close to it because we are compelled in this case to do something, not just to try to get some type of monetary remedy, but change the region of what's happening to black people, black and brown people down in southern Alabama and Mobile.
Starting point is 00:14:19 All right. Harold Daniels, we appreciate you. Keep us informed on this case. Thanks, Roland. Have a good night. Thanks a bunch. Folks, got to go to break. We'll be right back on Roland Martin Unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action.
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Starting point is 00:18:20 there's an angry pro-trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people.
Starting point is 00:19:07 The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. Bye-bye, Papa. Субтитры подогнал «Симон» Hey, it's John Murray, the executive producer of the new Sherry Shepard Talk Show. You're watching Rolling Mark. Until tomorrow. new Sherri Shepard talk show. You're watching Rolling Mark. Unfiltered. All right, folks, my panel for today is Joe Richardson, a civil rights attorney out of Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:20:19 Randy Bryant, DEI disruptor out of D.C., Torun Walker, founder of Context Media out of Atlanta. You know, Joe, we opened the show last night. Another case, traffic stop, black man end up dead. You look at this case right here. And, you know, this is the thing that I think is hard for people to understand. That when we talk about police reform, when we talk about what didn't get done, we talk about qualified immunity
Starting point is 00:20:54 and the need to lift that. And we saw what happened last year when Senator Tim Scott, Senator Lindsey Graham didn't move on police reform in the Senate, passed the House, go through the Senate. They can't find eight Republicans. But this is where I also say to external organizations where we can't give up the fight. This is where that sustained pressure must continue to be there. And it is amazing to me that I hear people, and I get it, say they're frustrated that Biden-Harris didn't get it done. But a lot of folks have just sort of,
Starting point is 00:21:51 all right, these things happen, and we go back to business as usual. No, the only way you're going to get the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act to become law is there has to be sustained public pressure. Where did it go? Well, you know, you have to stay consistent, right? A lot of times our problem is we are often motivated to do something as it pertains to voting by a circumstance. But to sustain that motivation is a separate thing. We have to be reminded that so many people fought and bled and died for us to be able to vote at all. This is a situation where you talk about qualified immunity and the fact
Starting point is 00:22:41 that basically, you know, only a change in consequences is going to lead to a change in culture. We're talking about police culture. And I think one of the first places that you can start is by dealing with circumstances. If someone really knew that they wouldn't have qualified immunity, I would give you, I would bet dollars to donuts that many of them would think twice about what it is that they're doing, then you start to knock on the door of changing culture. And yes, you have to keep pressure up because, and a sustained urgency, not just because don't want to minimize it. You know, you're talking about Donald Trump and the constitution, or you're talking about voting rights, but because you have the right
Starting point is 00:23:19 to vote and you have to continue to speak through your vote. It is a difficult thing. I'm glad that they do have, the family has the ability to see the tape. The attorney has the ability to see the tape. They'll have to bring their litigation and see what happens. And I hope that there is enough outcry with citizens that if this were to go to trial, the fear that it may go to trial and people may make an exception for their own rule, would allow some measure of justice on the civil side. We'll see what happens on the criminal side. Randy, I'm going to go back to the question I said to Joe. And again, I'm thinking back to the massive protests, Black Lives Matter protests,
Starting point is 00:24:02 people taking to the streets all across the country. I'm thinking about what took place in the wake of the death of George Floyd. But I still ask, these things continue to happen. And where is the sustained public pressure that is needed because we do these stories. They're not on MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN. They're not covering
Starting point is 00:24:34 these things. And it really takes a story like a Tyree Nichols that is just so beyond the norm for it really to become a national story. I believe that we're tired, Roland. I mean, the sad thing is, is that we are fatigued and we can't get tired.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I mean, it's but it's it's easier said than done, because as black people like we're running marathons. People are walking to work. And for us just to get out of bed and go to work and live a basic life, we're already like running a marathon with bricks on our back. And so when we're having to pay attention so much just to get, you know, to get treated decently for our loved ones to be able to stay alive, I believe that we just look down for a moment or we sit down for a minute and put our bricks down for a minute. And I guess we cannot afford to because this country doesn't allow us to break. But I do believe it's just we're exhausted. Go ahead. I was just going to say, and can we get rid of the whole concept of internal investigation? I know you didn't ask me that question, but I'm so sick of the police being able to police the police. It is, it is, it is, I mean, where else is that done? So the internal investigation crap just needs to be completely wiped out and illegal. Toron, I understand exhaustion, But what I also understand is that previous generations, 3, 5, 10, 15 years,
Starting point is 00:26:15 they understood that you got to stay with it. And I just think that there are people who just, oh, this was just, was going to get done. Nothing, I say this, there is nothing that black people have received in the history of this country that did not come as a result of struggle, of fighting, of resisting, of constant pressure being applied. And I don't see it. Well, you also have to look at the context of the time that we're in right now. If you look back at the movements that started in the 50s and the 60s, if you're talking about the Deacons for Defense, if you're talking about the SCLC, all the way up to the Black Panthers, the Nation, all of these different groups, there were people in each of those groups that had sustained
Starting point is 00:27:10 capabilities to be able to mount an ongoing, sustained campaign of resistance and protest, and in some cases went on for years, in some cases decades. I think because we live in a time right now where we have access to social media and we also have access to information that we think just talking online and just saying one or two things is enough and that's all you need to do to feel like you're doing some real activist work. But the real work is on the ground and it's deeper than just voting as well. You have to have sustained people who are dedicated to the cause that you're trying to push and to the agenda that you're trying to push. And they have to understand that that is a constant day in, day out thing. You know, you have to be bringing in people who are, when you're tired, bringing people and training people who can take your place when you get tired.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And that's how you build coalitions. And that's how you build a movement. And that's how you sustain something else with just being online. Also, I do, to the other sister's point, I think people are tired because we went through four years of seeing death after death after death after death. Almost every week, there was a new black male body laying in the street because of police violence. And you had a sustained movement of that for a certain amount of time. But you have to grow that and you have to be sure that you have a coalition in place to make sure that you build on the outrage and you build on the momentum.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And I don't think we have that right now. Look, and I absolutely get that but but thank god joe we had a generation that wasn't dismayed when they saw lynchings that they do you know what i'm just i and i'm sure they were tired of it i'm sure it was pain well. I just think that we have to keep explaining to people that you can't just be, oh, man, you know what? You know, we did it for a little bit. Look, there's a I could very easily. I could very easily lead with some other stories. I could very easily do what a bunch of other people do. You know what?
Starting point is 00:29:07 This is just too much. I don't really want that to be, you know, on the show. I remember when I was at TV One, president of TV One, he was white. And he came to me and. He basically was like. You know, it's the same stories every day. And I was like. Yep. What's the problem? And he wanted me to do this sort of explainer as to why we're doing these stories. And I said, Brad, I don't have to explain to black people why we're doing these stories.
Starting point is 00:29:58 You're white. You need the explainer. And frankly, you're not my audience. So no, I'm not doing what you are telling me to do. And so he was just lamenting. And I was like, sure, Brad, when black people stop getting killed by cops, then I'll stop doing these stories.
Starting point is 00:30:21 That is our reality. And I've had people, oh, this is, it's traumatic, it's porn, it's violence porn. I've heard all this sort of stuff. And my response is, so we should act like it didn't happen. So, I mean, I've got text messages from family members saying, hey, my child was killed in a prison in Texas, and it's a cover-up. And I get the emails every single day. I just think that this generation is going to have to buck up and understand that if it takes pressure for a decade, that's what is needed. But we can't just, oh, I'm just so tired that I just give up.
Starting point is 00:31:18 We live in a microwave world now. Everybody likes what needs to happen, what they want to happen to happen quickly. Their church, quickly. Their food, quickly. Their change, quickly. All right? We're technologically advanced. We can get to voters and do things that we could never do. But the best contact with voters is what? Knocking on the door. It's still the best by far. This young generation, I think, needs strategy. You know, if you look at the previous generations, there were a couple things. There was strategy. There was a moral component.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And there was also a unifying theme. You might not like the brother next to you, but neither of you could eat here. Neither of you could go to the bathroom here. And neither of you could stay here, neither of you could go to the bathroom here, and neither of you could stay here. Unifying thing. Boom. The Montgomery bus boycott choked people economically, choked the city economically, but also moved the hearts of people as well.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And so one of the things that we need to be reminded of, you know, church has that old song that said, I don't feel no ways tired. There's a suggestion there that the body can be tired. We have to do these things over and over again. We have to stay there. But even the Bible says tribulation, work and patience. And so we have to take ourselves out of this microwave mentality where we expect everything to be able to happen quicker. Some things are going to happen slower.
Starting point is 00:32:45 You can look at the arc of history. Every time Blacks make a significant advance, there is an incredible backlash. I think that that's what's happening now. The Trump generation, et cetera, and all these other things. Other things are as well, but this is what's happening right now. And the only thing you can do is be patient and work it. It's not going to happen overnight.
Starting point is 00:33:05 We 400. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st
Starting point is 00:35:05 and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing. Benny the butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
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Starting point is 00:36:16 subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Here's into this thing. It's not going to happen overnight, but we have to stay at it. I saw a video the other day. A prominent rapper was complaining, saying, a lot of black people are disappointed that Biden didn't get a lot of stuff done. Got it. But I'm going to say this again that I need to, I'm just trying to, I need to try to explain to people. Where's also the massive public pressure? I mean, we can, I spent, over Thanksgiving, I saw on Netflix, Rustin, Colman Domingo playing
Starting point is 00:37:16 Byard Rustin. He gets fired because they want to lead a protest at the 1960 Democratic National Convention. Then you go three years later to the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. Then we can go on and on and on. I think back to 1964 Atlantic City Democratic National Convention. I think back to even that, where the Mississippi Democratic Freedom Party, they were ticked off with King and Rustin
Starting point is 00:37:54 because they did not get what they wanted. They felt that the deal that they negotiated was unsatisfactory, Randy. But then they made clear, but in 68, there are not going to be any segregated delegations. They kept fighting. And so I just think that this generation, and I'm not speaking solely of millennials, Gen Z,
Starting point is 00:38:23 I'm talking about baby boomers, Gen X, millennials, Gen Z. There has to be sustained action in order for people to understand that this fight is not over. You're right. You are absolutely right. I don't think anybody can argue against what you're saying. I think what's missing now is one, information. I mean, what makes this show, what makes you so needed is that you tell us the deal. We learn what's happening. There is no other station. I mean, CNN or any other show is going to be 24-hour coverage on Gaza. They are not talking about our brothers and sisters that are being shot in the streets and whom are fully innocent. When I talk to people about the things that we talk about on this show,
Starting point is 00:39:21 they are fully ignorant about what's happening. So you deliver information and allow us to participate in this movement that nobody else really hears about. So that's one thing. I mean, because of integration and because of so many, you know, choices of what people watch, they're not even getting what's happening in our community as they were in times of segregation, as they were when more of segregation, as they were when more of us were going to church, going to the same churches and living in the same neighborhoods. Secondly, I think a big difference is that we don't have leaders.
Starting point is 00:39:54 So even when we say, oh, you know what? I do want to become involved and make a change. Where do I go? So who do I contact? You know, that really cares about what's happening in the Black community, not only when it's time to vote, but at all times. When I am outraged and upset, where do I go? I think the reason, Roland, why you are flooded with texts and emails and phone calls is because you're one of the few people that people feel as if that they can go to. And that is part of the few people that people feel as if that they can go to. And that is part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Like who will lead us to sustain this activity that we need to make real change? One of the things that I also remember in the wake of the death of Michael Brown, drunk John Crawford III, Eric Garner, and then the subsequent deaths to run, I kept reminding current activists. I kept saying, I know a lot of y'all shit on the NAACP and the Urban League, and you complain about them being slow, them being unresponsive. I said, but there's a difference between them and SNCC
Starting point is 00:41:32 and CORE and even the Black Panthers. I said, they're still here. And one of the things that I remember telling three very high profile young black activists, I said, one, do not get yourselves caught up in financial impropriety. That's the first way they come at you. I said, two, I understand all of this, the niceties around decentralized leadership. I said, but the bottom line is, you're going to need leadership. You're going to need leadership. You're going to need infrastructure. You're going to need all the things to be able to sustain
Starting point is 00:42:30 organizations over the long haul. And I really believe, to the point about, Randy's point about burnout to a run, is that there were so many people who were driven by the passion of the issue, that they did not fully understand that you need the infrastructure in place, meaning payroll, allowing people to pay their bills, the fundraising component, the strategic organization alliances needed for the long haul. So I think what we witnessed, I think we witnessed one and two and three and four years of this massive, this energy that existed, but it dissipates if you do not have an infrastructure to funnel people through.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And I've said this, that the fundamental problem that Black Lives Matter, that the entity suffered from, is that they were trying to play catch up to a movement that was like a runaway train. And what they did not do is slow this thing down and say, let's build a proper infrastructure so this thing succeeds no matter who we choose to be at the top of the hierarchy. Because at the end of the day, you want to be around 10 years later. You don't want to be a flash in the pan. I'm glad you mentioned that because, as you know, I covered some of those stories when the era of protests was going on. I filed stories from Ferguson and from other places where these things are happening. And I saw some of the energy that
Starting point is 00:44:24 was on the streets when you had all these young people. And some of these people, it was almost, if you look at the history of it, it was almost like a recurrence of the early civil rights movement, when you had these very young people. You had college kids. You had high school kids. You had just random people who were out on the streets because they were sick and tired of being brutalized by white supremacy and the prison and the injustice system in every city they were in. What happened was you had a groundswell of people in every city.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And I'm glad you brought it back to the Mike Brown situation. Mike Brown was sort of like the catalyst for it. But it goes even back to Trayvon. But Mike Brown was sort of the catalyst. And then going back to what I said earlier, where there was this period where like every week there was another young black man who was dying at the hands of police. And every city you saw something happen, whether it was Baton Rouge, whether it was Minneapolis, whether it was other cities. And you saw these massive outpourings of people on the streets. And then when George Floyd happened, that was a catalyst that made that fight go around the world. There were people around the world who were horrified and outraged at what happened to that man's life and how it was taken from him.
Starting point is 00:45:24 That was the time when that momentum could have been used to be channeled into actual infrastructure where we're saying, you can tell the world, this is what we've been fighting about for the last four to five years. This is the culmination of it. And now you can understand it. So now what we have to do is build a machine so we can take our anger and we can take our rage and we can take our frustration and move it into places where we're doing community work in every city, where we're doing actually legislative work, where we're civic and truth power. If we have to march on the state capitals,
Starting point is 00:45:51 if we have to march on city halls, if we have to march on police stations, that's what happened. And some of that happened, but what happened was a lot of the energy got dissipated, as you said, in those outward movements and nothing was really built. There was a lot of infighting. There was a lot of frustration. There was a lot of backbiting going on behind the scenes that affected some of
Starting point is 00:46:08 the movement that was going on on the ground. And, you know, when I think about it, man, it's really heartbreaking because I tell people all the time, 2020 was the year where we had the ear of the world, almost like what you see what's going on with the Palestinians right now around the world, where they have the ear of the world and people are outraged at what's going on there. Black people had the ear of the world at the are outraged at what's going on there. Black people had the ear of the world at the death of George Floyd, and that was dissipated because of backbiting, infighting, and a lack of infrastructure
Starting point is 00:46:31 and a lack of forward thinking, and it's really sad. And to your point, you know, if you don't have an infrastructure that can build on the times when the people aren't outraged, when there's no outrage to capitalize on, you're gonna fall by the wayside, and the media's gonna get tired.
Starting point is 00:46:45 The mainstream media has a very, very, very short attention span on to the next story. The minute something else happens. And if you don't capitalize on that and build on that and put it in different places, it's going to go to where we're dealing with right now, where you have a we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on everybody's business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith.
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Starting point is 00:55:41 Roland Martin Unfiltered. You know, we have, you got elections that are always taking place. In fact, December 9th, there is a runoff in Houston for mayor. State Senator John Whitmire is running against Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee. Monday was the first day of early voting for that. And one of the things that Cliff Albright, Latasha Brown, co-founders of Black Voters Matter, they always tell us, is that they do this work 365 days a week.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It's just not during elections. And I think the same thing has to apply when you talk about public policy. I've said this here, Randy, that groups should be, I believe, pressure should be applied right now. Republicans control the House. Why aren't these groups applying pressure to House Republicans, say, y'all pass the George Floyd Justice Act. Now, for people who don't understand, Democrats control the House.
Starting point is 00:57:29 They passed it. It went over to the Senate. When you get a new Congress, you have to vote again. It's not like, oh, it passed the House three years ago and that thing is good. No, it has to happen within the same period in which that Congress is in session.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And I think I think this should be an election year issue. I believe that advocates, I believe the families that have lost people, I believe they should be demanding that Republicans who control the House pass the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. And if they don't, if they don't even take it up or if they do vote on it and they vote it down, then we have all of those people on record as to where they stand. So when it's time to go vote, then we can vote accordingly. I don't believe it should just be, well, Democrats control the House and, well, we couldn't get it, so, okay, that's it. No, you keep going back to the whale. I mean, I am thankful that Black people, when it came to the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act didn't give up.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Yes. If I'm honest, I believe that we're scared. I believe that the way that just wanting black politically welcoming or like we are tagged and we're scared of it. I believe that even the average person going to work every day to advocate or to say that you're interested or concerned about what's happening in the Black community, that we, just something as simple as Black Lives Matter, is that we are scared of what the blowback is. We saw how much people fought back against us just asking to stay alive and to be safe, just asking to be treated and protected by the people who are supposed to protect us. I mean, we saw what has happened. I mean, they have almost destroyed
Starting point is 00:59:52 people's lives for just saying, excuse us, can we please have just the right to walk and drive and breathe and exist in this country and not be scared. And so if we don't feel as if the audience will be friendly towards us or we have an audience that may actually go and support what we want, we back down a little bit and not saying that we are somewhat afraid, that I think black people are almost groomed in this country to be afraid. I think that every time someone speaks up, whether it be, you know, Kaepernick taking a knee, there is a public hanging of sorts that says, when you speak up for black lives now, you can you can you can be an advocate for something else. But for black lives, that there is a cost to it. It may be your job. It may be your reputation.
Starting point is 01:00:53 But we are going to make you suffer. Joe, again, I sort of when I look at structured forces, when I look at, you know, what when you talk, people talk about black agenda and then what folks, you know, what are folks advocating for and where is the pressure being applied? I'll be honest with you from an organizational standpoint. I don't know. I'm telling you right now. I can't tell you right now. What what right now are the top three priorities of civil rights organization like the NAACP? I can't tell you. I can't tell you how people are being. What are people being mobilized and organized around? Like, what are we? I get Republicans control the House. I get Democrats have a slim majority in the Senate.
Starting point is 01:01:53 And let's be real clear to people, the civics one-on-one. Biden, unless it's executive order, Biden can't do a damn thing unless it passes the House and the Senate. So if we're talking, so I think, so part of this, again, we talk about infrastructure and how you're using it. I'm curious to know from these national organizations, what exactly is, how are they marshalling the forces to stand behind what? I can't tell you what it is. Right. And, you know, it could be any of a number of things that we're actually getting ready to say. It should be voting rights. It should be criminal justice reform.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It should be, you know, there's, you know, a host of them that it could be. But yeah, I think that to your point, we need some clarity, not only in terms of creating infrastructure, right, but in terms of understanding where the existing infrastructure actually is and creating the energy and the urgency to keep us moving along. Again, you know, people get nervous. They see, oh, my God, you know, Trump is beating Biden. But they'll always say Trump is beating Biden or this person is beating this person among likely voters. Well, who decides who the likely voters actually are? If you are actually bringing out people, educating them from the jump go, as it were, and bringing them along, now you're going to have more voters.
Starting point is 01:03:32 And I believe that the people that you educate can help give you and help facilitate that energy. Now, there absolutely needs to be infrastructure. I think we need to look at some of the models that have worked, look at what Stacey Abrams has done in our organization in Georgia, and really go state by state and area by area and actually create that infrastructure, continue to create that infrastructure, educate people early and often, remind them that not only should they get involved in elections and advocacy, et cetera, despite what they're going through, despite their struggles and despite all of the pulls that they have on their time, attention and energy? But because of them, we have to be very, very intentional about that. And you'll remember, you know, if you read the history books, if you read An Easy Burden by Andrew Young, you will see that there was a little resentment by the older organizations of the younger organizations. And if that gets everybody off the dime, that's fine. You know what I mean? You know, it's absolutely fine. Why? Because now
Starting point is 01:04:38 everybody's on their JLB and we're moving forward and the people are saying, come together so that we can do and accomplish what it is that we need to have accomplished. But it takes this concerted effort and this energy, as well as people like you and us and all of us, to hold everyone's feet to the fire with that energy and with that urgency. I just think that, again, from an organizational standpoint, and again, I'm sort of comparing, Torun, I'm comparing how the major civil rights bills became law. That didn't just happen. I mean, that was work, there was planning involved. I just, for me, I'm not seeing it. I'm seeing people complain.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I'm seeing people say what we don't have. I guess what I'm looking for is, I'm looking for the coaches who are devising the game plan and then coming and giving it to the players to say how we gonna win on Sunday and I'm sitting here right now going to the coaches where y'all at because the game is getting played but where y'all at you know what you just hit the nail on the head on something that i've been thinking about for a long time um i can tell you where the coaches are they're in their offices they are at panels they're at conferences there are people that you
Starting point is 01:06:19 know and i know as well who have been in some of these fights going back to the 80s, 70s, and some of our elders, the 60s that are still here, you know, praise God. But two things are happening. I think a lot of people feel like, from that group, feel like they've done the work they need to do and they can sit up and rest. And there are also people who are younger who have a lot of fire and a lot of drive and they have a lot of passion, but there's no direction. And I can tell you just from seeing from some of the things I've seen, there is very little cross-generational imparting of wisdom from OGs and people who are still alive, who are able to maybe form programs and put things in place for sustainability and young people who have the physical energy and the drive and everything. A lot of them don't listen to each other.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Some of them think I'm smarter than everybody. I've done what I need to do and let these young people figure it out. You have younger people who say, well, what they did didn't work, so I'm going to do it my way. But they don't understand that you have to have people who are sustainable and can build an infrastructure and who can do networking and can do everything. You know, marching in the street is one thing and it has its place. It's a very important part of activism. But once you finish marching, you've got to figure out where you're marching to and who do you sit down with when you're done marching and you have everybody's attention. You can march and yell and get everybody's attention, but what plan do you have when people in power are willing to come and sit down with you when
Starting point is 01:07:35 that does happen? And a lot of times people miss the mark on that. And again, I live in a city where you still have some of these people who are active in the civil rights movement who don't talk to people who are younger who who may need their guidance. Or they think that they don't need to listen to anybody because they're older. But you can't get anything moved in our culture. We have a culture of elder worship and we have a culture of elders that we go listen to who try to get. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up.
Starting point is 01:08:11 So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms,
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Starting point is 01:09:14 this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.
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Starting point is 01:10:16 This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this
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Starting point is 01:11:16 Who can give us some game to tell us what can we do, how can we move going forward, how to get things done, and we don't have that. That's to come to people who are out here moving with no direction or moving the way they are because the people who have that information don't impart it to them and again to be fair a lot of the younger people don't know how to ask because they've never been shown all right folks hold tight one second uh we come back we'll talk uh this uh story out of ohio eight officers involved uh in the shooting of Jalen Walker. Remember 90 rounds of fire at him?
Starting point is 01:11:47 They were walking scot-free. We'll discuss that and more right here on Rolling Mark Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. សូវាប់ពីបានប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្� I'm Dee Barnes. And this week on The Frequency, we talk about school to prison pipeline, book bans, and representing for women's rights. The group Moms Rising handles all of this. So join me in this conversation with my guest, Monifa Vandelli. This is white backlash. This is white fear that happens every time
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Starting point is 01:14:16 The eight Ohio police officers who shot more than 90 rounds at Jalen Walker have been cleared of any wrongdoing. Akron Police Department's internal investigation concluded that the police officers who shot and killed Jalen didn't violate police policies. Chief Steve Milet said in an executive summary that the facts and circumstances of the tragic shooting show that the officers had an objectively reasonable belief that Mr. Walker was armed and by his conduct presented an imminent risk of serious bodily injury or death to them and or their fellow officers. Welker was shot by police on June 27, 2022 after fleeing first in his car and then on foot. He was unarmed as he ran away, but a state investigation found that he fired a gun out of his car window while fleeing. A gun was recovered in his car after he was shot and killed.
Starting point is 01:15:09 A special grand jury declined to indict the officers for any criminal offenses. Jalen's family has filed a civil lawsuit. Folks, let's talk about Louisiana, where a sheriff's race in Louisiana is all the proof you need to know that your vote, one vote, does indeed count. Democrat Harry Whitehorn and Republican John Nicholson faced off in the November 18th runoff election. Results that night had Whitehorn receiving 21,621 votes, while Nicholson got 21,620. After Monday's recount, Whitehorn still remained victorious by a single vote, 21,624 to Nicholson's 21,623.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Nicholson filed a lawsuit in Cato District Court to declare a victor or order a new runoff election. The petition is set to be heard on Thursday. I don't think there's any other way to run to show people elections matter. There are 63 sheriffs in Louisiana, 57 are white men. This brother here is the only black sheriff. He wins by one vote. You know, that's got to be rough to lose by one vote. It's like something you see in a movie or like Caddyshack with a ballgubble sitting on the top of the puck on the top of the hole before it rolls in. It'd probably be better to live to win by a couple hundred votes than just one. That's rough. But no, you know, I think that's part of the reason why there's such a rush to try to roll back voting rights, because they understand that
Starting point is 01:16:51 it is a very powerful tool to be able to move policy that you want to see done. And, you know, the fact of the matter is, that's why I didn't even know that there was only one black sheriff in that whole state. But no, I think if you keep people from voting, if you keep people from exercising the power they have, if you keep people discouraged, this is the sort of thing that happens where you have people who may not want to go out and exercise their power. They may want to stay home because they feel discouraged. So I'm just glad to see that that brother won, man,
Starting point is 01:17:20 and I'm glad to see that it does show it is a perfect example of the power that one person can have. Indeed. man. And I'm glad to see that it does show it is a perfect example of the power that one person can have. Uh, indeed. Uh, and so for the people out there, uh, Joe, who say, man, it don't matter. It does. It absolutely does. And you have to really pay attention. I mean, you know, Louisiana is a whole lot more black than one out of 30. Okay. It's probably close to half black. I don't have the statistics in front of me, but I think that there's this suggestion by the fact that you have so many white electeds, even in areas where there are a lot of non white people that somehow we are outnumbered. But the fact of the matter is, and this is something that they understand,
Starting point is 01:18:07 those that are arguing just in the courts and trying to shake the courts and not so much the electorate, that they know that they're outnumbered in a lot of places already and getting ready to be outnumbered elsewhere. And so if we really understand this for what it is, and we vote in mass the way that we can with that urgency, you know, I want to understand what the secret sauce is, because this brother really got voters to come out.
Starting point is 01:18:32 My sense is, including voters that would support him because him winning this is suggested to be an unlikely scenario, but it doesn't have to be as unlikely as it has been if people understand that their vote counts. One vote made the difference. They did a recount. Each person got another three votes. He still wins by one vote. Everybody knows that their vote matters, and we have to quit accepting the suggestion that our votes don't matter just because we see who the electeds are. We can change that. And we actually have the demographics in order to change it. But they seem to know it better than we do. You know, we talk about this constantly, Randy. And I think it backed again, North Carolina, Sherry Beasley
Starting point is 01:19:26 losing the state Supreme Court justice race by 400 some odd votes. Trayvon Martin's mother, Sabrina Fulton, when she ran for commissioner in Miami-Dade, she lost in the primary, I think it was about 350 some odd votes. And so every vote matters.
Starting point is 01:19:41 So when people don't show up, this is how individuals are winning. And then we complain about policies. But when you vote, you're putting the people who you want in office. Right. We cannot be discouraged to be ambivalent. Right. We must not. I know sometimes, like I said earlier, it feels as if it's so arduous just to be black in this country. But we cannot allow ourselves to become ambivalent and not participate in the process. As we keep saying, each vote does matter. And once we really ingest that and believe in that, you know, we can continue to change the world for us.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Well, again, so, hey, folks, if you need any other reasoning, Brother won by one vote, a single vote. Folks, in New Mexico, Republicans are unhappy with the state's highest court for upholding the newest congressional map. In September, 9th Judicial District Judge Fred Van Solen ruled that the redrawn map did not entrench the Democratic Party in power and did not violate the New Mexico Constitution. Monday, the five justices on the New Mexico Supreme Court affirmed Van Solon's ruling.
Starting point is 01:20:55 The Republican Party of New Mexico argued that Van Solon made an error when he ruled that even though the new map substantially diluted Republican voters, that dilution was not egregious enough to entrench the Democratic Party in the state's second congressional district, and therefore it is constitutional. This is the thing here that when I talk about battles that are going on, these battles are happening, Randy, in the courts. And so our legal groups, they are fighting it out. But this is where, again, you need your legal groups in the courts, but you need your other folks in the streets. All of these things work together.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Yeah, absolutely. to pay close attention because they are trying every way possible, as we see, we're talking about the Supreme Court, to ensure that this redlining continues and to ensure that our people don't get a fair chance at winning anything. You know, because by numbers, we would win so much. If things were done fairly, they have decided to cheat. And that's just, there's no other way we can say it. And so we must ensure that one, our courts are, and we'll vote by voting too, that our courts are in a position to be fair and when these decisions need to be made and that we on the streets are ensuring that people are paying attention and that then we are showing up to vote when it's time. Again, I call this civil warfare, Torun, and we're seeing it in New Mexico.
Starting point is 01:22:35 We're seeing it in Georgia, in Alabama. We're seeing it all around the country because Republicans are banking on. They're banking. If they can redraw these lines that guarantee them victory. I saw a story that said in Mississippi and Louisiana, where you had so-called competitive races, there was a 10-point gap between the Republicans winning and the Democrats losing. Basically, they have guaranteed themselves victories. You know, I say this a lot. Republicans, for all their faults and all the things that people may not like about the Republicans, the Republican Party and their operatives are very, very good at ground game and long game. What we're seeing happening now, the rules and the things that we're dealing with were put in place in the 1980s. Ever since, like the sister said earlier, anything that benefits the poor and the working class and black people in general, the Republicans will put infrastructure in place to start trying to claw back everything that we gain legislatively. And if they can't do it through nefarious means, they'll do it through gerrymandering.
Starting point is 01:23:40 They'll do it through assassinating the character of potential candidates, potential threats. They will fund, they will pour money into campaigns and into PACs that will ensure that anything someone tries to gain for black people gets pushed back to the point where they can't fill their war chest. These are the things that have to happen. And a lot of this stuff is done in silence. Going back to your point about the importance of having media to shed light on a lot of these things, because a lot of these things, like the race in Arizona, a lot of the things like the sheriff you just spoke about, these things happen on the quiet.
Starting point is 01:24:07 They happen, and a lot of times people who are hard right, they bank on the fact that people don't have the time to be able to inform themselves about these things, and they bank on the fact that they can put out a narrative that turns people away from even investigating these sorts of things, and these are the things that happen. When you don't pay attention to things, things can get taken out from under you. So these things have to be, they have light shit on them and we have to be vigilant about it. All right, folks, hold on one second. We come back. You can always expect foolishness when Senator Ted Cruz and Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana are involved. Wait until we show y'all what happened when these fools tried to question the witness over guns and shootings.
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Starting point is 01:27:21 Well, folks, during today's Judiciary Committee hearing to examine the gun violence epidemic, Texas Senator Ted Cruz decided to attack Democrats instead of staying on the topic of gun violence. Ooh, let's just say it got real interesting. We are at yet another hearing called by Democrats on gun control. Understand that today's Democrats in the Senate, these are not your father's Democrats. There are no moderate Democrats left in Congress. Today's Democrats, when it comes to guns, their objective is to disarm law-abiding citizens. They.
Starting point is 01:28:16 A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Business Week. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms,
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Starting point is 01:32:00 Democrat. He's an African-American mayor, elected in Dallas, been a Democrat his whole life, until just recently he left the Democrat Party and became a Republican. Now, let me read you why Mayor Johnson became a Republican. Quote, unfortunately, many of our cities are in disarray. Mayors and other local elected officials have failed to make public safety a priority or to exercise fiscal restraint. Most of these local leaders are proud Democrats who view cities as laboratories for liberalism rather than as havens for opportunity and free enterprise. Too often, local tax dollars are spent on policies that exacerbate homelessness,
Starting point is 01:32:43 coddle criminals, and make it harder for ordinary people to make a living. And too many local Democrats insist on virtue signaling, proposing half-baked government programs that aim to solve every single societal ill, and on finding new ways to thumb their noses at Republicans at the state and federal level. I have to say to an ordinary person, the political ideology of today's Democrats makes no sense. Why your priority is disarming a law-abiding citizen but not going after the violent criminal. And to be clear, it is the radical left that advocates abolishing the police and defunding the police. And when I say
Starting point is 01:33:33 there are no moderate Democrats left, the Biden administration has nominated not one, not two, but three of the leading advocates of abolishing the police to senior positions at the US Department of Justice. Every single Democrat on this committee voted to confirm every single one of them, but not just on this committee. Every single Democrat in the United States Senate voted to confirm all three of the Biden nominees, including Rachel Rollins, nominated to be the U.S. attorney in Massachusetts, one of the leading advocates of abolishing the police as a local prosecutor, she put out a list of violent crimes that she wouldn't prosecute.
Starting point is 01:34:14 You know what? We're not having a hearing on the impact of Soros prosecutors releasing violent criminals from jail. We're not having a hearing on carjacking in Washington, D.C., because the Democrat City Council lowered the penalty for carjacking, lowered the penalty for murder. We're not having a hearing on Congressman Henry Cuellar, a Democrat from Texas who was carjacked in Washington, D.C., at 9.30 at night. We're also not having a hearing on the Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots across the country because to Democrats, when stores are being looted, when police cars are being firebombed,
Starting point is 01:34:56 when police officers are being murdered, that's not a crisis if they agree with the ideology of the criminals. Instead, their objective is they want to take away the firearm from the single mom who's taking the subway home at night, who that is the only prevention she has against the violent criminals that the Democrats are unleashing. And by the way, to give you an underscoring of it, look, we have a mental health crisis in this country. I've repeatedly introduced legislation to improve school safety, to invest a double the number of police officers in schools. Democrats objected. To invest $15 billion in mental health counselors in schools. Democrats objected.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Their priority is not stopping the criminals. Their priority is disarming law-abiding citizens. And by the way, they call it a public health crisis because they want to put supposed experts in charge of disarming you. The Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights is not a public health crisis. What is a public health crisis is the crime rates that are skyrocketing because Democrats keep letting murderers and violent criminals out of jail. But Dr. Rainey, let me ask you a question in terms of public health. Right now today, what's the leading cause of death
Starting point is 01:36:25 for Americans age 18 to 45? I believe that it's opioids. It is. It is drug overdoses. Last year, more than 100,000 Americans died of drug overdoses. 70% of that came from Chinese fentanyl that is flooding across our southern border because this administration has opened up our southern border to 8.6 million illegal immigrants, has enriched the drug traffickers. Do you think, Dr. Rainey, that fentanyl flooding across our open border on the south that has
Starting point is 01:36:56 killed collectively 100,000 overdoses last year, do you think that's a public health crisis? Absolutely. Synthetic fentanyl is a major crisis and Senator Reid from my home state of Rhode Island has been a leader in trying to stop the supply of synthetic fentanyl. Except he hasn't because Senator Reid along with every other Democrat supports Joe Biden's open borders because when we try to secure the borders they block it over and over and over again and the criminals who come across who are taking people's lives that is because the Democrats refuse to enforce the law. Yeah, wonka, wonka, wonka, wonka, wonka, wonka, wonka. But if you think that's a fool right there, wouldn't you hear this fool,
Starting point is 01:37:33 Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana, who tried to come after that witness, Megan Rainey. Roll it. Let me ask you this. Why do you think that Chicago has become America's largest outdoor shooting range? Chicago citizens who have no criminal record but who have awfully a gun in their home for protection or perhaps for hunting? Or do you think it's because of a
Starting point is 01:38:18 finite group of criminals who have wrap sheets as long as King Kong's arm? So Mississippi, Louisiana, and Missouri actually have higher firearm death rates. Obviously, there's certain... What about Chicago? So I don't live in Chicago. It's not my primary area of research. You don't have an opinion on that? I think there's easy access to firearms combined with environmental conditions, lack of great education. There have actually been studies
Starting point is 01:38:50 showing that when you green vacant lots and repair abandoned buildings in urban neighborhoods, you see decreases in gunshots and violence, as well as in stress and depression in the neighborhoods around them. No disrespect, Doc, but that sounds a lot like word salad to me. Yeah, because you're an idiot. That's why. What a fake-ass accent. Y'all know it's a fake-ass accent. He purposely wants to sound like a Southern hick.
Starting point is 01:39:22 That's not how he talked when he was a Democrat. Yeah, seriously. What you heard right there was just perfect, Joe. Oh, let's focus on Chicago. She went, eh, hire Mississippi, Louisiana, your state. What about Chicago? How about you focus on the state your punk ass from? That's right.
Starting point is 01:39:44 I mean, it's an interesting thing. You know, you have folks in the southern states that talk about freedom and talk about opportunity and hands off and all of these other things. But the fact of the matter is those states have some of the poorest outcomes. They have some of the poorest educational outcomes. They're some of the poorest states. Those of us in California and other liberal states tend to pay a lot for them more than they pay for us, as it were. And yes, as it turns out, there is a lot more in terms of free-wielding, gun possession, gun violence, and all of these other things that are going on in ways that they want to overlook. technically intelligent but doesn't have a whole lot of common sense and wants to steer the discussion into having something else or you've got you know john kennedy um and tommy tuberville who you know i'm not always sure that they can actually spell their names they're actually not very smart at all um and so the fact of the matter is you know you have to, you know, separate the wheat from the chaff a bit here. You know, this slow drawl or this fast intellect, you know, Harvard educated, but no common sense. You know, racist tendencies, ignoring dealing with the immigration problem, where a whole lot of people that are coming to this country because it's a
Starting point is 01:41:25 shining city on the Hill, who people that look like Ted Cruz and John Kennedy employ all the time, which is why they keep coming, you have to either create a pathway or figure out what's going on. You cannot put everybody in jail. You can put everybody in jail and win elections, but you're not gonna put everybody in jail and solve problems, particularly when a lot of the folks that you put in jail, you put in jail for nonviolent offenses, or you put in jail because they're people of color,
Starting point is 01:41:57 more likely to be put in jail, to be in those situations because they don't have the resources. So once again, it's them talking out of the side of their mouths and not doing what it is that they need to do. They sit here and just run their mouth. But they love talking about Chicago, Randy. But he don't want to talk about New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Yeah, he ain't trying to talk about that. I mean, really, it's just, to me, such racist rhetoric. And anyone who, I mean, they don't even try to hide it. It's so disgusting. They always want to talk about Chicago. And it's always, they want to, to me, act as if black people are the ones who are, you know, are the problems with the guns. And that, you know, everybody, these white women, to me, is the way it sounds, are coming home and trying to get a, just be home safely and protect themselves. I mean, they never want to mention, you know, who's doing the most mass murders and things
Starting point is 01:42:49 like that. I mean, just clear-cut racism, in my opinion. And then even with the opioid epidemic, it's not because the pharmaceutical companies that they very much are funded by are the issue. It's coming over from China. funded by are the issue. It's coming over from China, and that's the issue. There is no responsibility whatsoever. There's these good old boy Americans who want to not take accountability for any issues whatsoever, and they want to steer everyone away from actually doing the research and finding out what's going on, particularly in their state.
Starting point is 01:43:23 And it's like the Fox News, just going on, particularly in their state. It's like the Fox News, just headlines. Just focus on the headlines that are wrong. The same story over and over again. They make me sick. I can't believe that Jose Cruz isn't in Mexico. He usually runs away when there's something important to talk about.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Bob Lyon here, Toron, this is the game that they play. And this is where, with witnesses, you've got to sit here and say, yep, we're going to bring up your state. We're going to bring up cities in your state. And so, again, this is the game they love to play. And this is no different than when I decimated
Starting point is 01:44:00 and destroyed Phillip from Indianapolis. And really, he was from a suburb in Indianapolis. When he kept bringing up Chicago, I was like, but you can't focus from Indianapolis. And really, he was from a suburb in Indianapolis. When he kept bringing up Chicago, I was like, but you can't focus on Indianapolis. Bottom line is, when they say Chicago, that's their new N-word. Chicago is their new N-word. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:19 And you know what? That hearing wasn't even about trying to get to the bottom of a crisis or getting to real information. Cruz and Senator Kennedy were playing to their base. That's stuff that they're—that's what they were doing was putting together talking points and sound bites and fodder that they can take back to their constituents and say, see, I'm fighting for you. Now, when I say I'm fighting for you, I don't mean your brown people and your black people. I mean you scared people who are nervous about these boogeymen coming over the border. That's really all I heard over the whole conversation from both of them. It's basically setting up a scenario where you
Starting point is 01:44:47 had this image of the scared white woman on the train, like from Death Wish or something like that, scared of these black people and these brown men that are to come and take advantage of her or violate her. That's what that's about. It's about scaring the hell out of the people who listen to you. And we have to be honest, though, even though it sounds ridiculous, there is a very large base of people who swallow that rhetoric and believe in it. And I can't believe, the other guy I'm not really familiar with, but he sounds like Foghorn Leghorn
Starting point is 01:45:09 or the white man that was on In the Heat of the Night. Not the sheriff, but the one that Sidney Poitier had to deal with on the movie when he slapped him and stuff like that. It's like, hey, Mr. Endicott, he sounded like that. I'm like, and you're saying that's a fake accent? Why are you even talking like that? You would only do that if you're trying to present yourself
Starting point is 01:45:24 like this hardcore Southern chef like Bull Connor that's going to swoop in and save all the flower of white womanhood from these boogeyman black people that are coming in. That wasn't about trying to get to the bottom of anything. It wasn't even about a hearing. It was about trying to embarrass the people on that panel and wasting their time and making yourself look
Starting point is 01:45:39 like the defender of the flower of white womanhood like we're in the deep south. And again, just so people, you know, think I'm not joking, yo, the dude is fake. Remember, Gary Chambers ran against him for the United States Senate. And Gary actually featured this fool in an ad that showcased what he actually sounded like. I'm trying to pull this up now. And I remember when we ran it because people thought, okay, surely you're joking.
Starting point is 01:46:18 But no, Senator John Kennedy, he used to be a Democrat. He used to be a Democrat. And I'm having some issues here. I'm trying to see if I can pull it up. And he used to be a Democrat, y'all. And when he was a Democrat, he also went to Harvard. So he loves talking about elites
Starting point is 01:46:38 and stuff along those lines. But what was interesting is that when he talks about elites. All right. So listen to this. Watch this, y'all. Listen to this. We'll not let you down. I'd rather drink weed killer. Oh, and by the way, now he's good buddies with this guy. John Kennedy inspires people like this and has now raised 15 million dollars to keep ruining louisiana we need to build a grassroots movement to defeat john kennedy and build the margins of the democratic party in the
Starting point is 01:47:12 u.s senate chip in today we are long way from 15 million but people power can catch up let's go to work avocado toast eating insiders elite. Y'all, he was sitting here. Okay, so hold on. I'm going to try to run it back. I'm going to try to run it back, so let's see if I can play this again. Because I cracked up laughing when I saw the ad. Let's see here.
Starting point is 01:47:40 I don't know why it's not. It's jumping on me. Let's see if I can restart it, because I was just, like I say, it cracks me up every time I even hear it. Go to it now. And this is my opponent, John Kennedy. He used to be a Democrat that talked like this. Well, we have another program here at Treasury that we're very proud of. But then he became a Republican, switched accents, and now he talks like this. I will not let you down. I'd rather drink weed killer. Oh, so this that's I mean,
Starting point is 01:48:14 the dude's a fraud. He's an absolute fraud. You know, you know what that sounds like? You know, when when George Wallace first ran in, was it Alabama? It was Alabama, right? George Wallace, when he first ran, he ran on a sort of progressive platform, and he didn't win. And I'm not going to say what he said, but he said after he lost that first battle, he said, I'm not going to be out N-worded again. And that's when he turned into the George Wallace that we know.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Hold on, I'm going to play one more. I'm going to try to see. Let's see. Listen to this. Future decision or what? Well, Arthur, we've been friends a long time. And I think you know the answer to that question. I'm a Democrat.
Starting point is 01:48:57 I support Senator Kerry. I have endorsed Senator Kerry, as you have, as Chris has. He's the nominee of our party. Now, you notice how all of a sudden he was trying to move to the... No, you don't talk like that. Go ahead. No, man, it sounded like he's... Like I said, man, it's almost like the situation with George Wallace. George Wallace didn't start out going segregation now and segregation tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:49:28 George Wallace was actually a fairly educated man, but he found out what his base wanted, and that's what he did. And I'm assuming that's what this guy is doing. He sounds like a charlatan and an imposter, but I've heard of people changing hair color over time, but I've never heard anybody change their accents. He must have met Sunshine or something. I don't know what's going on with him. Hey, all this is is how can he appeal to the country
Starting point is 01:49:49 bumpkins by suggesting that I said it's a fake accent. When you're faking your accent, Randy, you're a fraud. And Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana is an absolute fraud. Randy, you a fraud. And Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana is an absolute
Starting point is 01:50:05 fraud. Yeah, these good old boys that are actually multi-millionaires came from a long legacy of money and higher education. How they switch from being these, yeah,
Starting point is 01:50:22 like these elite men to all of a sudden sounding like, you know, Boss Hall from Dukes of Hazzard back in the day? That's to me who he's trying to cosplay. I mean, it's sad. It's absolutely sad. And people who are intelligent would be offended. Joe, I really get a kick out of this fool with his little fake accent.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Yeah, I mean, you know, and it seems like to me that folks would appreciate someone that's real wherever you are. You know, for me, my thing is just don't be fake. If you're somebody I disagree with, just, you know, just give it to me like it is, and then at least I'll trust you. See, there's people with integrity that I don't agree with. You can be truthful. You can be true to yourself. You can be a person whose word can be counted on even if I don't agree with you. But once you become fake, now I can't even take you at your word.
Starting point is 01:51:23 You're going to change with the weather. You know, but then again, you look around, fake seems to be in right now. Hello? Yep. Trust me. If y'all go to YouTube and if you, he is down for some of the most, some of the dumbest viral moments in the United States Senate. And that's a lot of competition when you got Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee
Starting point is 01:51:48 and that idiot Ted Cruz of Texas. I mean, that's like a lot of competition. All right, y'all, hold tight one second. We'll be back on Rolling Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. Don't forget, join the Bring the Fuck fan club. See you checking money. Order at PO Box 57196, Washington, D.C., 20037-0196. Cash App, Dollar Sign, RM Unfiltered,
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Starting point is 01:52:44 You and me, we talk about the stories, politics, the good, the bad, and the downright ugly. So join our community every day at 3 p.m. Eastern and let your voice be heard. Hey, we're all in this together. So let's talk about it and see what kind of trouble we can get into. It's The Culture, weekdays at 3, only on the Blackstar Network. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.
Starting point is 01:53:21 But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull
Starting point is 01:53:49 will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
Starting point is 01:54:17 But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes one, two, and three on May 21st and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back.
Starting point is 01:55:23 In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-stud on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug
Starting point is 01:55:47 thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 01:56:03 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hatred on the streets. A horrific scene.
Starting point is 01:56:34 A white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence. On that soil, you will not be free. White people are losing their damn minds. There's an angry pro-Trump mob storming the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash.
Starting point is 01:57:11 This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear. Bye-bye, Papa. I'm Dr. Robin B, pharmacist and fitness coach, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Bobby LaRon Pipkin was last seen leaving a family member's birthday party in Wilmington, Delaware on November 25th. The 42-year-old is 6 feet 4 inches tall, weighs 190 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.
Starting point is 01:58:28 He was wearing black jeans, a black shirt with a Simpson character, a black hat, black glasses, and a chain that says Genius, G-N-Y-U-S. Bobby has a scar above his left eye and a dent by his left eye that looks like a teardrop. He has several tattoos, a microphone on his arm, the name Change, and Elijah on his arms, Janet, the K of Heart, and Fearless King on his hands. Bobby was driving a black 2021 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport, license plate number LJY4214, which is also missing. Anyone with information about Bobby and LaRon Pipkin
Starting point is 01:59:00 is urged to call the Wilmington Police Department at 302-654-5151, 302-654-5151. All right, the former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who was convicted in the 2020 murder of George Floyd, was stabbed in a federal prison in Arizona. The office of the Minnesota Attorney General confirms Chauvin is listed in stable condition. He was attacked on Friday at the Federal Correctional Institute in Tucson, Arizona, a medium-security prison that, according to reports, has been plagued by security lapses and staffing shortages. Chauvin is serving 22 1⁄2 years in prison for second-degree murder,
Starting point is 01:59:39 third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter for the May 25, 2020 killing of Floyd. So, Randall, what you having for dinner? That's what I wanted to say. Like, I was trying to send a thought and a prayer, and I realized I was all out. So, yeah. Yeah. Ooh, and, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Yeah, hey, you better get back to work and do that time that's what's up that's what's going on keep your guards up you only got 22 more to do you're going to do 85% you in fed this is fed time bro this is fed time that's what Tupac used to say it's time to do fed time won't see parole
Starting point is 02:00:23 imagine life is a conflict it's getting old don't get me quoting Tupac used to say. It's time to do fan time. Won't see parole. Imagine life is a conflict. It's getting old. Don't get me quoting Tupac. But, you know, in any event, yeah. What you having for dinner? Grits and sugar? Grits, sugar on your grits still?
Starting point is 02:00:37 Rolling. Hell yeah. Absolutely. I don't give a damn what y'all think. You do sugar on grits, man. You damn skipping. Doesn't make you just look at him differently? Any what y'all think. You do think on grits, man. You damn skipping. Doesn't make you just look at them differently? Any of y'all paying for them?
Starting point is 02:00:53 No, because I put butter and salt on mine. Not a damn one of y'all paying for my food, so I don't give a damn what y'all think. I don't care. Roland is very adamant about this issue, for sure. I don't know. Actually, I don't even think about it. I do not care. Man.
Starting point is 02:01:15 I think I did actually treat to lunch that day that I paid for the sugar and grits. Didn't care then. Now, I put some sugar on my men and rice, butter, sugar, and milk. I'll do that. Both y'all just admit butter, sugar, and milk. I'll do that. Both y'all just admit y'all country's hell. Oh, yeah. That's what they call it. Oatmeal with some sugar on it
Starting point is 02:01:33 this time of year when it's cold, that's it right there. But no, not on this, bro. If you're going to do oatmeal, use brown sugar. True. Thank you. Thank you. And I still don't give a damn what y'all think. I give zero. Zero.
Starting point is 02:01:50 I give the same thought about y'all opinion about me putting sugar on grits as I do about Derek Chauvin being stabbed in prison. So we're not going to put a fund together for him to give him some protection or something no like in boxing protect yourself at all costs till the bell rings right and his bell's gonna ring in about 20 years yeah you got 21 and a half more hey i don't care get on back to work i like to say like i literally i literally do not care about derrick Chauvin. And if you hadn't killed George Floyd, your ass wouldn't be in prison.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Well, he would be in prison for one year because, you know, he did get charged with tax evasion, too. This good citizen that people tried to make him to be. He did get a year for tax evasion, major tax evasion. His wife, I think, had to do about five months. What's appalling, though, is that if he lives, he'll actually – he's got a date. He'll actually get out one day. That's what's called about it. It's going to be a hell of a 21 years, no question about that. But if he makes it, he actually has a date.
Starting point is 02:02:59 He actually is going to get out. I don't know what to say, man. All I can say is just invest in cigarettes. That's the only thing I can tell you. Just keep your guard up. Best of luck. Yeah. Y'all still talking about him? No, I'm through.
Starting point is 02:03:14 Gotcha. All right. I don't really care. And you're damn right. Sugar on my grits. Folks, hundreds attended the memorial service to former First Lady Rosalyn Carter today in Atlanta. Former Presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, President Biden, Vice President Kamala
Starting point is 02:03:32 Harris, and all five living and current former First Ladies Jill Biden, Michelle Obama, Laura Bush, Hillary Clinton, and that Trump woman were seated at the front of the Glenmore United Methodist Church on the Emory University campus.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Pastor Tony Loughton delivered some brief remarks thanking the Secret Service and also talked about the former First Lady. Maya Angelou wrote, When great trees falls, When great trees falls, rocks on a distant hill shudder, and lions hunker down in tall grasses, and elephants lumber after safety. When great trees falls in the forest,
Starting point is 02:04:21 small things recall into silence their senses eroded beyond fear. When great souls die, the air around us become light, rare, and sterile. We breathe briefly. Our eyes are filled with hurtful clarity, and our memory suddenly sharpens, examines the words unsaid and promises of walks never taken. But did you know that in Isaiah chapter 40, verse 28 says, do you not know and have you not heard the Lord is the everlasting God, the creator of the earth. He is not, he will not grow tired or weary. In his understanding, no one can fathom.
Starting point is 02:05:16 He gives us strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. And even youth grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall. Here's where I shout and get happy. Chip, it says, but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles. They will run and not go weary. They will walk and not faint. You've heard everything about this great soul. You heard that she was from Plains, Georgia.
Starting point is 02:05:55 You heard the fact that she loved and she had compassion even for a butterfly. You heard the fact how she loved her grandchildren, and oh, how she loved J.C. Jimmy Carter. But I also have to tell you that she loved J.C. Jesus Christ. And I believe the reason why she did so much of the things she did, because she read in Spanish and English that faith without works is dead being alone. So when she read the word of God, it went to her head. And then it got in her heart. And somewhere in the kingdom of God, Ambassador Young, she decided to put her hands to the things of God.
Starting point is 02:06:51 From her head to her heart to her hands. But Mr. President, she made it a habit. From her head to her heart to her hands, and she made it a habit. If you love our first lady who was global, make it a habit. Take your passion and make it a habit. Link your passion up with compassion. And then there will be peace. and then there will be peace and then there will be love
Starting point is 02:07:29 and then we'll have a house united not divided she would say thank you to all the first ladies that came and stopped all the traffic in Georgia and Atlanta. Mr. President, she'd say thank you from the time you came down and visited President Jimmy Carter
Starting point is 02:07:59 and sat in the living room with you and your beautiful bride. She would say thanks to all of you. Governor, she would say thank you. But I want to tell you something. To all the staff, she would say thank you. But there's somebody in here that's very important, and only them are going to get what I'm about to say. There's some folks that make all this possible.
Starting point is 02:08:30 Their sole mission is to make sure you get home safe. For 46 years, men and women of the Secret Service has made sure that she got home safe. For 46 years, they left their families and traveled with Rosalyn to make, that she got home safe. For 46 years, they gave themselves. Jason, they had ice cream, peanut butter ice cream. They did all the things that she did. For 46 years, they made sure she got home safe. I want to tell each and every one of them, she would tell you, thank you.
Starting point is 02:09:31 You got me us safe. Rosalyn Carter is in heaven, and she did the work of the Lord in the kingdom all around the world. And Don and all the directors for 46 years got her and her family home safe. And I say thank each and every one of you, those that are standing post and those that are listening on the radios right now. Thank you. And she loves you and ain't nothing you can do about it. All right, I must say probably one of the funnest moments of the funeral was when Carter's grandson got up and spoke. Y'all, check this out.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Thank you all. And again, a special thank you, Secretary Clinton, Mrs. Bush, Mrs. Obama, Mrs. Trump and Dr. Biden. Thank you all for coming and acknowledging this remarkable sisterhood that you share with my grandmother. And thank you all for your leadership that you provided for our country and the world. Secretary Clinton and Dr. Biden, we also welcome your lovely husbands. That was pretty funny. Of course, President Bill Clinton, President Joe Biden there,
Starting point is 02:11:34 Presidents Obama, George W. Bush, and at full, they were not there at the funeral, but the First Ladies were there. Like I said, Vice President Kamala Harris and Second Gentleman Doug were there as well. One of the things that was interesting listening to the speakers at the funeral, Randy, was how significant Rosalind Carter was as an advisor to her husband,
Starting point is 02:12:03 sitting in on cabinet meetings, and was a major, major force when it came to confronting mental health in this country, an issue that people did not want to deal with in the 70s. And remember, you had a candidate who was running for president in 1972, who when the Nixon folks broke into the offices and discovered his therapist records, that was not something that was, I mean, people looked down upon that in this country. She centered the issue of mental health in America. Yeah, I was thinking about, you know, going back to our earlier conversation about people being disingenuous with who they are
Starting point is 02:12:44 and trying to be something that they're not. And the Carters have always been the absolute opposite of that and, you know, have been their true Southern selves, but also at the same time been pioneers in pushing us through to deal with topics that weren't discussed before. I think she was genuinely a first lady that people will forever hold in high regard. Again, here, I think, Joe, what was just so interesting is that it was Rosalind Carter who proposed to President Carter that he hold the talks between Israel and Egypt at Camp David.
Starting point is 02:13:23 I mean, she was someone who he listened to, who gave him advice. One of the things that one of the speakers said, one thing that she said was, I think it was Judy Woodruff, the journalist who said that Carter's deal, when she answered why does she sit in a cabinet meeting, she said, I can't give Jimmy the advice he needs if I don't have all of the information. And that's huge when you have people in this country who are like, Jimmy the advice he needs if I don't have all of the information. And this is that that's that's that's huge. When you have people in this country who are like first ladies, shut up, be quiet. No one elected you. You're going to take that one.
Starting point is 02:14:07 No, I think that's a very important point because, and I also think it speaks to the point that this idea that the person who you actually marry and the person that you share your life with is somebody that is, I think it's a ridiculous thing to say that even in just simple things that you do in your own house to say to somebody who doesn't have have the power of being the leader of the free world is not supposed to take advice from the person who spends the most time with them. And I also think it speaks to this idea that first ladies are supposed to be window dressing, and they're not supposed to have any sort of life outside of just being showpieces for their husbands. But you can't function in society with a wife who doesn't have any sort of input in your life husbands. But you can't function in society with a wife who doesn't
Starting point is 02:14:46 have any sort of input in your life. And you definitely can't function as a politician if you have somebody who's inert and doesn't have her own point of view and doesn't have her own ideas to be able to bring to the table. That's just common sense. And I think it's an amazing thing. And I also know being someone who lives in, you know, in Georgia, I've known the work that the Carters have done, you know, for the last 40 years outside of public office, the things that they put work into. And I know his wife was a very big part of that. So I think it's a very beautiful thing that this is being told now. Indeed, indeed. And so certainly Rosalind Carter being laid to rest there in Georgia with Georgia. It will be happening at their home in Plains, Georgia. Also, folks, another lost soul singer and New Orleans native, Jean Knight, best known for her 1971 hit, Mr. Big Stuff,
Starting point is 02:15:34 is now an ancestor. The family released a statement saying she passed away on Wednesday. The Louisiana Music Hall of Fame inductee released her first song, a cover of Jackie Wilson's song Stop Dogging Me Around in 1965. Her success climbed in 1971 with the release of Mr. Big Stuff, which landed her a deal
Starting point is 02:15:53 with Stax Records. The hit sold more than one million copies and earned her a Grammy Award nomination in 1972 for Best Female R&B Vocal Performance. Songstress Jean Knight passed away at the age of 80. Folks, that is it for us. Let me thank Randy, Toron.
Starting point is 02:16:13 Let me thank Joe as well. I appreciate y'all being on today's show. Be sure to have a great day. Folks, I'll be back tomorrow. First, I'm going to be at North Carolina A&T speaking to the students tomorrow morning. I'm flying out over a couple of hours, but I'll still be back tomorrow. First, I'm going to be at North Carolina A&T speaking to the students tomorrow morning. But I'm flying out over a couple of hours. But I'll still be back in time for tomorrow's show.
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