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Latino voters of their voting power by trying to change the constitution of the Galveston County, Galveston Commissioner's Court. October 2023, a federal judge ruled that Galveston counties were districting MAP, which would deny Galveston's black Latino voters of representation. They also comprise nearly half of the county's population. So they did not equal opportunity to choose a candidate of their choice saying it violated the section two of the Voting Rights Act. Well, four years, there's been a battle going on there over this, the campaign at legal center

has been part of the ongoing lawsuit challenging what's been happening there. Simone Leeper is the senior legal counsel of redistricting at the campaign at legal center. She joins us right now. Simone Leeper is a senior legal counsel of redistricting at the campaign at legal center. She joins us right now. Simone, this is absolutely crazy. And what we have to understand,

look, I'm born and raised in Texas, born and raised in Houston, not far from Galveston. And what this is about, Republicans systematically want to screw over black people. Right now in Tarrant County, where Fort Worth is, do an exact same thing. They wanna get rid of one of the black districts and go from three-two Republican control to four-one.

That's the same thing happening in Galveston County, correct? That's right. It's basically, it's going from having one seat in which the black and Latino community had the opportunity for 30 years now to elect their candidate of choice and have their seat at the table in the county commissioners court. And now they stripped that away by cracking those

voters across the various. Now stop right there for people to understand that phrase, explaining them what cracking is. Absolutely. Basically, it's when you have a large number of voters, in this case, Black and Latino voters, who could make up the majority in a district, and in this case have for over three decades made up the majority of a district where they had the opportunity to elect a candidate of their choice. And what they've done is divide up those voters in the new lines that they've drawn and split them up so that they no longer make up a majority in any of the seats for the county commissioners court. And so now they don't have that seat at the table, which has been so important to that community

for so long. Now, when you say that seat, what's the present representation? How many commissioners are there in Galveston County? How many are Republican? How many are Democrat? When we look at this, we don't necessarily look at it just in terms of Republican and Democrat. What we're really looking at is the candidates of choice, right? And at this point, we went from having one seat

of the four in the commissioner's court, and then there's also the county judge. There was one seat in which the black and Latino community for 30 years have been able to elect their candidate of choice. And now they have no seats. Now, obviously the reason I'm saying that because the reality is it does count too. So right now of the five members of the commissioners court, four elected, they got the county judge.

How many of them right now, how many of them are Republican? How many are Democrat? Right now on the ideological lean, four or all five, including the county judge, would be Republican and then none would be Democrat or in the way that we look at it, you know, none are allowing that minority community to elect their candidate of choice. Now previously, now, now, now that's this is the current map. So previously, what was the makeup? Was it four Republicans, one Democrat? That's right.

And it's one of those situations where you think, Oh, well, you didn't have a majority anyways, right? What did it matter? But what we see is that in this community, this seat has been so important. I'm from Florida, so I know what kind of an impact hurricanes can have in 2017. When Hurricane Harvey rolled through and devastated Galveston County, having that representative made all the difference in terms of communication and advocacy and really having a seat at the table in the halls of the county government.

Right, and so again, I understand from your organization standpoint, you look at this as just what the law, you look at the racial whole deal, but I'm also factoring in the politics. The reason they are doing this is because they don't want there to even be one Democrat elected. They because based upon African-Americans and Latinos

and how they vote, they likely are going to vote Democrat. So by breaking this up and splintering them, you now be able to create a fifth Republican seat. And so right now it's five to nothing Republicans versus Democrats, correct? That is correct. But I do want to be very clear that here what we're alleging and what I think the facts make clear is that there was not a partisan gerrymander. There was a racial.

No, no, no, no. I understand that. I understand that. Yeah, I understand that because first of all, that was the case in North Carolina. And the reality is the Supreme Co rule that they don't have is B. S. With John Roberts jurisdiction over partisi

a state issue, but the Su can rule on racial jurym what happened in the case they create an opportunit what happened in Louisiana opportunity district as w the court is actually ruled in the favor of African-American Latinos regarding section two.

And so that's so like that strand is still available. The reason I'm trying to explain to the public what's going on here, what they are doing is what you're alleging. They are doing racial gerrymandering. And the goal of the Republicans in Galveston County is they want total control. And by by cracking this district, they are saying we're going to splinter blacks and Latinos. So essentially you're not going to be able to elect the person of your choice and more

than likely the person of your choice is going to be a Democrat in Tarrant County. The same thing. There are two black members of Tarrant County court. They want to eliminate one of those to go from a three to two Republican to two Democrats and three white members and two black to go four Republicans and one black. So that's really what their strategy is. And it really comes down to racial gerrymandering.

And that's what it boils down to. Regarding this here, has the Supreme Court ruled on the maps in Galveston County? The Supreme Court hasn't ruled specifically on the maps in Galveston County. The Supreme Court was involved in that the district court had said you can't proceed in the 2024 elections based on these discriminatory maps and that was appealed up to the Supreme Court. And unfortunately, the Supreme Court allowed the election to move forward under maps that were identified by the district court as mean-spirited and egregious. And that's, and is that, is that because Supreme Court sort of has this ridiculous damn rule

that, oh, it's too close to the elections for us to be able to consider this. So therefore, even though the court is, the district court is ruled that it's too close to the elections for us to be able to consider this. So therefore, even though the district court has ruled that it's illegal, leave it in place and then we'll decide after the election for future election whether it's illegal or illegal. Yeah, that could certainly be a factor. And when we have these sorts of things, we don't wanna read too much into the tea leaves on what the court considers about what we call the merits of the case, the actual facts, right? If they're not issuing a written opinion, giving their

justification. But that is something that has been a huge problem in terms of saying, oh, it's too close to the election, even when in actuality it's not. Yeah. Cause same thing has happened in other jurisdictions, uh, where they were frankly elected people under the illegal maps, but the Supreme Court allowed them, allowed them to continue. All right, so from a court standpoint, where do you stand with this here? Like, is it in the appellate? Is it going back to the Supreme Court?

Because you're in limbo right now. When are the elections in Galveston County? Are they in an off year like this year, or are they next year in 2026? So it was in 2024 that the election went place underneath the discriminatory maps. Two years or four year terms? That is going to be two year terms.

Got it, so that was in 2024 for the next election. I'm gonna be completely honest with you, I'm blanking on it right now and I don't wanna give it wrong information, I apologize. Now, no worry about it, I can easily find it. So we're talking about, and so if you're talking about, and so where does the court case stand? So right now, the court case is back down

at the district court level. So the district court judge ruled under a set part of our claims that we made, right? So there's the parts of the claims that are moving forward right now are about intent. It's about the discriminatory intent and the racial gerrymandering. Previously, the judge had ruled on

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And the district court ruled in favor of the black and Latino voters, and that was up to the appellate court at the Fifth Circuit. And they did something which was truly horrible, which is they went against their own precedent, their own cases that they had previously decided, and held that there's a single race limitation on the protections of the Voting Rights Act

as it relates to those effects claims. I'm sorry, a single race limitation? What the hell is that? Yes, so, great question, right? And so basically you have in this case, the black and Latino community together, they have a common community, they have common candidates of interest,

they have shared concerns, and together they're able to come together to elect a candidate of their choice. The Fifth Circuit has said that you can't bring claims onto half of more than one racial group. So, yes. Okay, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I'm sorry, wait a minute, wait a minute. Y'all are suing on the basis of racial gerrymandering. They're trying to say, hey, if you're gonna sue, you gotta sue only for black people and only for Latino people. You can't sue for black and Latino people together. So they haven't said that yet, and hopefully they will not, about racial gerrymandering or racial intent in the maps.

What they did say is that if you're talking about the effect of the maps, the fact that it takes away voting power for these combined racial groups, they said in that case you could only sue on behalf of black or Latino voters. And we understand that this is, it imposes a racial purity test on the protections of the Voting Rights Act. It makes no sense. And the vast majority of courts have not made that decisi Fifth Circuit previously made no sense. Unfortunat the ruling that they've m

taken this case back down level, the original court forward and having the co to rule on our claims of and discriminatory intent in the district. Okay, so for folks who are watching and listening, I need y'all to understand something here. And you can't do this.

So just, so guys, do me a favor, get me out of the two box, put me into one box. So let me explain this here. Because see, I don't want her getting in trouble because she has to go before the court. So I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna go back to our guests. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals is one of the most conservative appeals courts in America.

Okay. Hard right wingers. If y'all study, we covered this, what happened in Louisiana. They kept going back and forth, back and forth, essentially trying to help the people in Louisiana as having an out to create the opportunity district. And basically the Supreme Court was like, no, this has been decided. And they kept trying and trying again.

So for people who are listening and watching, understand that's what the Fifth Circuit is. There are more Republican appointed judges in the Fifth Circuit than anyone else. Very few folks appointed by Democrats. And so you have to understand the radical ideological bit of the Fifth Circuit. So that's why they're doing the actions that our guests just described. Now I'll go back to Simone.

So I don't need them trying to say, Oh my God, you were doing this show. You were calling us out, but I can call them out because that's exactly who they are. So the thing that the benefit and hopefully it, and again, we've seen this in other cases and where the, where this Supreme court shockingly has consistently, even though we saw the attack of section four with Shelby B. versus Holder, this Supreme Court and is hanging by a thread, still going,

hey, guess what? Section two still stands. They've actually ruled in several other cases against racial gerrymandering under the guise of Section 2. That gives you, I hope, some hope that if it goes all the way up, they will rule in your favor before the next election. I mean, I hate to read tea leaves, but what I can tell you is that this has been described as a textbook case of racial gerrymandering by experts at court.

And so it's very clear. The evidence is out there. The district court judge has made the findings that would demonstrate that this is racially discriminatory. This is racial gerrymandering. And I do want to clarify it is four year terms for the county commission. Yeah, I was just checking. I apologize.

I've already checked the election of 2024. So the next election is in 2028. But if they do rule, I mean, if they do rule that these maps are illegal, can they order a special election or will black Latino voters there frankly have to wait until 2028? They could order a special election, absolutely. There's also staggered terms,

right? So based on the numbering of the district that affects the year in which the election is. Right. And so, you know, that's another option. Um, there's no reason that this community should have to wait any longer and go any longer without that representation that is so pivotal. Absolutely. Simone Leeper, uh, we're so appreciated. Thank you so very much for joining us. Thank you very much for having me. Folks want to bring in my panel right now, talk about this here. Joining me right now, Robert Petillo. He is a civil rights attorney, also a congressional staffer.

Joining us from Atlanta, Rebecca Carruthers, executive vice president, Fair Elections Center out of DC, Eugene Craig, CEO, X Factor Media out of Baltimore, Maryland. Rebecca, I wanna start with you. I mean, again, you see what's happening in Galveston County. We've been covering what's happening in Tarrant County. What was so shameful in Tarrant County is that Tarrant County, the government,

hires this conservative firm out of, I think it was Virginia, to redraw their maps. And we played the video how the county judge would not let them testify. And Commissioner Lisa Simmons is like, Tim, hold up, we paying for this. The taxpayers are paying for this. So how y'all gonna not let them testify in public

to answer these questions? And she was like, where are they? Oh, they're in a room somewhere else. And the county judge, so it was like, wait a minute, it's up to them whether they testify or not. This is what Republicans are doing. They hold a three to two majority right now in the Tannin County Court.

They want to redistrict the seats right now. We're not even in, like this is the middle of a census year because the judge and the county judge makes it perfectly clear. I want another Republican on this court. This is the stuff that they are doing. They are brazen about it and it is specifically to take out a black county commissioner. So Roland, just to remind your audience, we're under a very extremely fractured on Voting Rights Act, which means that your audience, we're under a very extremely fractured Voting Rights Act, which means that, functionally, we kind of have a piece of Section 2 left. Section 3 has fallen.

Section 5 has fallen. So, what does that mean? As an example, with Campaign Legal Center, Fair Election Center, we do joint litigation with them. We just did litigation with them in the state of Alabama, which we were successful, where the state of Alabama decided they were going to remove tens of thousands of people off of the rolls. It was largely minority voters in Alabama going into the 2024 elections.

It was a violation of HAVA, Help America Vote Act, which says you cannot make certain changes within 90 days of an election. So what we're seeing, when there is no Voting Rights Act that's valid in this country, we're seeing especially in what has been previously suspect areas, so a lot of it is across the South, not just the Confederate South, but the Jim Crow South. We also see in different places in the quote-unquote North where there has been local jurisdictions that have racially have made decisions based upon race in a negative way to make sure that voters aren't able to elect the candidates of their choice. What we're seeing in

Texas is especially egregious because they're saying forget the 10-year cycle of where we have the census, that next year we do redistricting, we set the districts, and then, for the next decade, that is indeed how people vote, based upon those districts. Instead, we're seeing a constant and ever-present redistricting fight. And we are hearing very partisan things. We are hearing even from the White House, from the Congress, even telling Texas on the congressional level, hey, you need to do redistricting, because we need you to send more Republicans to Washington, D.C.

That's not the way this thing should work. So right now we see the way voting—we see the apparatus to determine whether it's redistricting, determining political districts, or even the apparatus of who gets to vote, we see it extremely heavily politically charged. That is not the way it's supposed to be. Voters decide who represent them. Politicians aren't supposed to decide who their voters are. But what we're seeing is a very blatant and naked attempt on keeping power, because if

all things were equal, if we were making sure those who are eligible are able to vote, if we were making sure that we had fair maps in how people are able to vote, Congress will look different. And that's what certain people in this country do not want. Eugenian, look, this is all about a naked power grab. And again, that decision by the Supreme Court that was led by Chief Justice John Roberts that, oh, we don't have any say so in partisan gerrymandering that's left up to the states. And so the authority there is the state Supreme Court. That's what opened

the door for the Republicans to say in places where we run the state Supreme Court, yo, we're just going to change the maps. The problem is the Supreme Court, federal government still has control when it comes to racial. That's why when they had a previous court case in North Carolina and they lost one of these, Reverend Bishop Barber kept telling the white folks in North Carolina, do not sue on the basis of partisan gerrymandering. He said you have to sue on the basis of partisan gerrymandering.

He said you have to sue on the basis of racial gerrymandering. They ain't listen, they lost that case. And so that's the only glimmer of hope that we have because what they're doing is they're trying to play games with it. But clearly in the Galveston County case in Tarrant County, they targeting black people and in Latinos as well, this ain't partisan Saint partisan its race.

It's a 100% race right and I look during the opening segment to the segment we ran down Louisiana, Alabama, North Carolina. You're seeing the same gerrymandering Georgia. I mean you see a scene in New York to a degree right. You know the fact that Congress for lawless. But it does come down to race. And what they've also understood is that, you know, because of the race that Black people vote

for Democrats, the race that Hispanic people vote for Democrats, if we're able to fracture that vote up, you're able to make sure that Democrats aren't able to get elected. Or just common sense public figures aren't able to get elected. And that sense public figures aren't able to get elected. And that's what the fight is, going into the 26th election and the 28th election and then leading to the 2030 census.

Robert, I made it all plain right here. This is our power. And their whole deal is if we can sit here and roll back, take this seat, this seat, this seat, again, shove all these black folks in one district. That's what they're doing. Same thing happened. This was the South Carolina case where they said how they were pushing, they were removing

black people out of Nancy Macy's district, pushing more of them into Congressman Clyburn's district to make that seat more black. And for years, I remember Cornell Belcher came on my Washington Watch show on TV One, and he made this point, and a lot of black people got upset. He said, black people, we have got to stop. He said, we gotta be smart about our politics. He said, we've gotta understand the power of black voters.

He said that we're so fixated on black representation, as opposed to democratic representation, he said, then we're so fixated on black representation as opposed to democratic representation, he said, then we're gonna lose. And people are like, man, what are you talking about? We want more black people. He's like, no. He said, black people can have more power if all of a sudden 25% of this district is black

25% of this district is black versus 65% of this district being black. Let's just take 65% here. He's saying, yo, if 15 or 20 go over here, this is still a majority black district. And a lot of people were really upset with that. And we saw that play out in Texas when the Republicans in Texas targeted the white Democrats. And so what they did was, and this is when the Democrats actually fled the state to try to stop this thing from being passed, and it didn't work.

This was the first time, not the second time. And I remember, you had a black state representative, Ron Wilson, who went along with their particular plan, because he thought he was going to win the congressional seat that was created in Houston that's now occupied by Congressman Al Green. Well, guess what? He got his ass whooped. Then he got his ass whooped and lost his state seat and later had a stroke, so he out of

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Get your tickets today, AXS.com. And so black people said, now we saw what you were doing, Ron. You were full of shit by lining with Republicans. But what happened? They took out all white Democrats. And so the Texas Congressional delegation expanded to be more Republicans by taking out the white Democrats because they were packing the black people

in the black districts. And so that's what people are saying you have to be paying attention to. The games that they're playing. Oh, no no we're gonna put more black people in your black district so you're good. What that's doing is preventing black people from deciding that second district. Yeah absolutely correct and I want people to remember that your first day of political science class in college they tell you that politics answers the question who gets what when. It's about the public distributing the public goods. And they base that upon who has the most people behind them.

And so, when we're talking about voter suppression writ large as a big subject matter, folks have to understand that there's two ways you can do it. What you were just describing is packing. You put all the black folks into one district that have supermajority black districts. Therefore, with the exact same population, let's say there's 10 congressional seats up for grabs, you're going to have one supermajority black district and then nine literally white districts with that same population. Then there's dilution.

If you take that same majority black district and cut it up 10 different ways, where now each district only has about a 10 percent black population, well, now you've also diluted that vote, because now you don't have the power to actually elect people within those districts. That's the second way you can do voter suppression. So, this is why it's so crucial that we pay attention, not just on the federal level. Black folks will turn out for a presidential election. We will turn out for a gubernatorial, a Senate election, those sorts of things. But these state elections going into the second half

of this decade, because when we go into redistricting in 2030, we will not have the protection of any version of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. There will be absolutely no remnant of it on the books. The Supreme Court, as it exists right now, is only waiting. They're chomping at the bit for a case to bubble up to them, so they can get rid of the last remnants and kill the Voting Rights Act dead, and the Civil Rights Act won't be long after that.

So when we're going into this 2020—these 2026 midterms of the 2028 election, we as a community have to make it a bedrock principle that anybody who strolls into our neighborhoods and says they want our votes has at the front of that list, not just renewing and supporting the voting rights at the 1965, passing a new version for 2025, passing a new voting rights act, not just the John Lewis voting rights act. We have to take it to an entirely different level because the fight is completely different. You've been saying, and I've been saying for two, three

years now, read Project 2025. Page 555 of Project 2025 talks about using the military to go into cities to put down mass demonstrations and limit free speech. And we just saw them do it last week in Los Angeles. They are telling you in choreographic that they are doing every single thing in Project 2025, and they're doing it quick, fast, and in a hurry. And one of the things in there is getting rid of every federal protection around voting, allowing these local jurisdictions to pack and to dilute the black vote. And we will see the U.S. Congress and every House of Representatives around the country

looking a lot closer to 1865 than 1965, and we don't make that our priority going into the next election. The thing for me, Rebecca, and again, and I guarantee there's somebody who's watching that's sitting there going, see, there you go, there you go, you talking about supporting them Democrats. There are two parties in this country. They're Republicans and they're Democrats. And the reality is most black people vote Democrat.

So when you're talking about voting power, you're talking about who you likely going to elect, who has control of purse strings. In Texas, when the hurricane hit, the last hurricane, Governor Greg Abbott said, I'm gonna give a shit about then Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner. I'm gonna give a damn about a county judge, I don't care about the county judge, her name is Hidalgo, I don't care about her.

He withheld $1 billion in federal money from Harris County because Harris County is a democratic county. He penalized them because they were blue. And guess what Harris County is a democratic county. He penalized them because they were blue. And guess what Harris County has? A lot of black and Hispanic people. So I'm gonna need people to stop, black people stop being stupid, simple Simons, and who then go, hey there you go trying to be a shield

to understand that when Texas, when the census happened, understand that when Texas, when the census happened, the population in Texas expanded because of black and Hispanic people. And what the Republicans do, they added mostly Republican congressional seats. You know, in full well, they ain't voting for those two. They know that. So I'm gonna need black people to understand that their whole deal is you get caught up in the D versus the R, the donkey versus the elephant, the blue versus the red, but the

Republican strategy is to freeze black people out of political power, which now means you can't control budgets, you can't control dollars, and that's what politics boils down to. It boils down to the delivery of resources on the city, school board, county, state, federal level. You know, another way to frame this isn't black people voting Democratic or black people not voting Republican,

but understanding the power and the process and the history of Black political power and why Black people vote the way in which they vote. When we look at when Blacks initially, Black men specifically, got the right to vote post-slavery, largely Black folks then registered as Republicans, the party of Lincoln. But there was also a radical republicanism agenda that was going through the Congress at the time. We saw at that point that Democrats were largely the segregationists. They were the party of Jim Crow.

But then we started to see a switch. We started to see that the Democratic Party decided, hey, we're going to be the ones to pass—they said they were going to be the ones to pass civil rights. They were going to be the ones to pass civil rights. They were going to be the ones to pass voting rights. So at that point, especially with the northern migration patterns, we started to see that black folks largely started to vote Democratic. To be clear, black people do not vote for Democrats because they love the Democratic Party.

Black people are extremely pragmatic, extremely rational. So to all the people who say that black people are on the, extremely rational. So, to all the people who say that black people are on the plantation or that they are sheep, you have to understand the pragmatism. Black people have, in the last about 50, 55 years, have voted overwhelmingly Democratic is because they believe the Democratic Party has delivered things that the Republican Party has enunciated or indicated that it would be willing to deliver for black people. So, one thing that I would say about black voters, highly sophisticated, they are voting based upon their interests. In fact, they are the only and most consistent voting block in this country that is willing to vote based upon their interests. And what just so

happens is that the way black people vote tend to be in the best interest for the entire country. And so we have to frame it out. It's not just a partisan lens, but it's a rational choice lens in which how black people decide to vote. And what we're seeing in this country right now is that there are people in this country who do not want black people to have political power, period. If black people were largely Republican, there would be people in this country who would

not want black people to have political power, because if black people were largely Republican, there will be people in this country who would not want black people to have political power. Because if black people were largely Republican in this country, we would see that Project 2025 will probably be the opposition party to all of those mass black Republicans. Just so people understand how this thing has happened, how this thing has worked the last 200 years in this country.

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You hear me? Well on Monday it was the National Institutes of Health grants. Now it's the Environmental Protection Agency. A federal judge has ruled that Donald Trump administration acted unlawfully when it withdrew $600 million in environmental justice grants intended for low income and minority neighborhoods. Judge Adam Abelson of the U. S. District Court for the District of Maryland ruled that the E. P. Termination of these grants violated the Administrative Procedure Act. These grants were part of the thriving communities program, which aimed to address pollution in areas

that are disproportionately affected, such as black and rural communities. The EPA had tried to discontinue the program, citing a policy shift under Donald Trump. However, the judge determined that this action was illegal and contrary to the intent of Congress. This right here, Eugene, is another example of how unlawful this administration is. And again, we're going to keep saying this, this is why federal judges matter. And this is also a direct attack on black people. The federal judge in Massachusetts on Monday said the

same thing. He had never seen this level of racial discrimination coming from the federal government in 40 years that he's been on the bench. And I'm going to keep saying this until people wake the hell up. Donald Trump and MAGA and Republican parties, they want to defund Black America. They want to destroy the civil rights and the economic rights infrastructure of Black America. They want to destroy these grants when it comes to black health. They want to destroy these grants

when it comes to the environment. So they don't give a damn about the drinking water or the air quality where black people are. Donald Trump pulled out of that lawsuit, canceled the lawsuit in Louisiana against those petrochemical companies in Cancer Alley where black people are dying. They called it an illegal DEI settlement in Lowndes County

where black people had sewage backing up into their lawns. And you know who ain't saying shit? It's black Republicans in Congress. And all of these skinning and grinning Negroes who I call the help, who went to the Black History Month reception at the White House. They ain't saying a damn thing.

You don't hear Michaela Montgomery, Joseph Pinyon, King Randall. You don't hear Terrence Williams. You don't hear any of these folks, Cherise Lane. You don't hear none of these people speaking up for black people. Darrell Scott ain't saying nothing for black people. I can go by Byron Donalds, Tim Scott, Burgess Owens,

Wesley Hunt. They don't give a damn about black people. They are simply black folks with black face, and they are operating during the bidding of white conservative Republicans. I mean, listen, it's literally just me, Sophia Nelson and Michael Steele. But the thing is this, right,

I wanna go back to that judge's point. At the end of the Biden first term or last term, at the end, that last quarter, right, people are, oh my gosh, what is Sleepy Joe doing? What is Biden doing? X, Y, and Z, that last three to six months, he was fighting to confirm judges. Why? Because, Y, and Z, that last three to six months, he was fighting to confirm judges. Why? Because, hey, as the last safeguard, as the last safety net to a Trump administration,

you have the courts that are still hanging on by a thread because the Trump administration is actively ignoring orders coming out of federal courts at this point. But as the last safety net, as the last fail safe, they confirmed as many judges as possible and still wanted to confirm more. You know, and the thing is this, it's Team Trump's agenda to defund Black America, to do as much harm as possible to Black America, and then turn around and say,

oh, the Democrats are the reason why things are messed up. Well, no, that's not true. It's literally just not true. But it's important for people like me, particularly definitely people like me, that are black Republicans, to speak up, speak out, and be loud about fighting for things that affect black people directly,

whether it comes to education, whether it comes to the environment, whether it comes to economic opportunity. And look, I always say, a lot of these new-age black Republicans, they aren't Republican, they aren't conservative, they are MAGA folk. There are people that came up through the age of Donald Trump. He has some folk that existed before Donald Trump, but they're capitulated to Donald Trump and MAGA. And I say, look, it's literally just

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The radio guy, where his ass at? What's his name, Shelly? What's his name? Yeah, you're right, Rowe. No, no, set? What's his name? Shelly? What's his name? Yeah, you're right. No, no, what's his name? You're right. It's Shelley winter and what's your no no, no, no, no, he's my whole question. No. No, he's my question Shelley winter Do you see Shelley winter? Calling them out on these ant on this anti-black agenda. Is he saying anything? You see I don't know.

What I was saying was me and Shelly had to stop talking because I'm Haitian and he repeated the whole Trump, Haitians eat cats and dogs. So I cut everyone out of my life. I don't care if I've known you 20 years. If you say the Haitians eat cats and dogs and I gotta go look my Haitian mama and look at the picture of my dead Haitian grandmama

in the face, I have to make a moral decision as to whether or not I can associate with individuals of that nature. What does he go by? Does he go by W-I-N-T-E-R or W-Y-N? This is weird, Rovin, but it's- That shit ain't weird, I'm asking you a question. It's a strange thing we're doing, girl.

You know how to spell his damn name. How to spell his name. It's W-Y-N-T-E-R. Good. Now keep going with your comment. Now, Rob, you know we run down on people on this show. No, hell yeah. No, no.

Listen, I ain't trying to sit here and play nice with these people because here's my whole deal. I know black Republicans. Okay? Eugene's a black Republican. Michael Steele's a black Republican. Michael Steele's a black Republican. Our dear friend Chris Metzler, who passed away, was a really good brother. I've known black Republicans my entire life. And those are Edward Brooke black Republicans.

These are people who are conservative, but they actually love black people. When talking to Elroy Saylor, they love black people, but these Negroes, they love trying to talk about how y'all on the plantation, Dems ain't doing nothing for y'all. And when these white MAGA folk target black people with anti-black agenda, all them Negroes quiet. Now, if you want credibility with me, call them out when they do something wrong. And so that's why I asked for his name, because I'm going to look for his damn social media, and I'm going to see what his ass got to say. Gone right ahead.

The point I wanted to turn back to is a point about environmental racism and why this EPA decision is so important. And when progressives, when liberals use terms like environmental racism, it loses a lot of people. If you grew up in a neighborhood where there were some big-ass power lines, some high voltage poles that went over your house and now all the kids don't act right, that's environmental racism. If you grew up in a housing project like I did, you looked out the back window and there was a big-ass landfill right there full of who knows what kind of

chemicals and stuff that we were breathing in that went into the water supply, and that's where all the black neighborhoods were? Environmental racism. If you were in a community where there was a giant, let's say you're in Philly, and there's a factory with an eternal flame burning methane when you go by on the highway, and that smoke comes down onto a neighborhood inhabited mostly by black and brown people, and now the test scores are lower there than they are on the other side of town, that's environmental racism. So I want folks to understand that when we talk about some of these terms, it sounds

like they don't have anything to do with you. Or when Donald Trump and the conservatives talk about deregulation of business. Yes, it sounds great to have deregulation. Deregulation also means they can put lead back in the paint. Deregulation means they can put asbestos back in your attic. Deregulation means they can dump those chemicals directly in the stream that's upstream from your water supply and that doesn't impact them.

So we have to be educated in these conversations ensuring that we are fighting these fights and operating in a manner that we're not just simply saying, well, does it directly impact black folks? We have to ask the question, how will it impact our communities and our country writ large? See, I was sitting here looking. So, your boy, Carol, go ahead. Carol, book Shelly ass on the show, because I want to ask him directly these questions. Cause under his Twitter bio says, never scared black and conservative.

Well, I want to know if he's saying anything against, against these policies, because Rebecca, they are absolutely positively anti-black. Look, there's a lot of quiet people. I mean, you can add on Angela Stanton and other people, but also we have to call out some of the Democrats who have 2028 aspirations as well. If indeed black people are the most consistent

and largest voting block or the base of the Democratic party, then where are the 2028 Democrats as well? And talking about the anti-blackness that's coming out this administration? Well, I'll be honest. I don't give a damn—I don't give a damn about any 2028 Democrats, because, hell, we ain't even got the 2026 yet.

You can't—my whole deal is, I think that's part of the problem. Folks spending too much time on 2028, they ain't paying no attention to 2025. But that's the point. The very people who are now going on social media saying, where is Barack Obama? Why isn't he standing up and talking about this moment? Well, guess what? Barack Obama is not the leader of the Democratic Party.

So for those who are trying to be the leader of the Democratic Party, then they also have to understand that there's a call to action for them to use their voice in this moment. Don't wait until 2026 or 2027, and then all of a sudden you wanna be the champion and tell black folks, hey, you need to show up and vote for the Democratic Party. My point is these people who are trying to line up

and figure out and machinate with how they're going to, what position and do their positioning for 2028, that leadership needs to appear now, because if it appears now, it's actually authentic leadership. So one thing that I would say to black voters, stop looking, listen, and see who is actually championing your issues right now. Stop looking, listen, and see who

is willing to call out the anti-blackness, anti-black policies that we're clearly seeing from this administration. This isn't a, oh, maybe they don't mean it. No, like we've talked about since last year, this is Project 2025. One thing that I want to note, when I was going into the elections last year,

I was in Alabama at an event, I was talking to a voter about Project 2025, and one of the things they said back to me is, this is Alabama, we've been living in Project 2025. I don't think the rest of the country is ready for what is getting ready to happen to the entire country. So I do want to acknowledge that there are people, there are black folks living in states where they've been under this type of framework. They've been under this type

of government, but now we're seeing it nationally. See, the reason, y'all, I'm a little froggy about this here, is because I'm just not interested in these lame-ass people getting away with their BS. I mean, I'm just, when I say I'm sick and tired, and I'm sick of being sick and tired, I am. I had a conversation earlier today with somebody we were talking about issues of faith in the poor. And I literally said, I said, you know what?

It's time some folk just roll up on, just roll up on Ralph Reed's Faith in Freedom Conference. Cause you know, they had it every single year and it's amazing. They have it every single year and ain't never conversations about faith and freedom. Like it ain't never conversations about faith. And I look at their agenda and I'm like,

yo, where the faith stuff at? Where the faith stuff? And in fact, I'm trying to sit here and I'm gonna have to reset, give me a second, I'm gonna have to reset my Roku here, so control room, I'm about to send this to y'all, I need y'all to pull this up. And Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro punk ass, you know, I can't stand lame people and Ben Shapiro is one of them.

He posted this tweet, y'all, that got my attention. And see, this is why I'm doing roll call of names. Because see, I don't wanna use words like they. I don't wanna say them. I wanna put a name on it. And I wanna challenge them to see if they have the guts To actually say or do something And and because they always run in their mouths about stuff

And so let me know when y'all have it so Ben Shapiro. He posted this tweet y'all and he said It was we're gonna show it in a second, it was an honor to meet his holiness, the Pope in Vatican City today, and to thank him for standing up for biblical values in a chaotic world, and to present him with a signed 2005 White Sox World Series baseball

I had in my collection. We're both fans. Let me explain to y'all why Ben Shapiro is a punk ass. OK? So I'm about to explain to y'all why Ben Shapiro is a punk ass for this lame-ass tweet because Ben Shapiro

You thanking the Pope for standing up for quote biblical values in a chaotic world Does that include Gaza? Does that include the poor? Does that include the Catholic Church being against the death penalty? See, see, exactly which biblical values are you thanking the Pope for? See, right now, with this this big beautiful bill,

that bill is a shameless, despicable attack on poor people in the working class. Ben Shapiro, were you thinking the Pope talking about them? See, I'm tired of these performative, performative so performative, so-called evangelicals, Christians, folk who claim to be people of faith, whether they're Jews, whether they are Buddhists,

or Hindu, or Christian, or Muslim, whatever you wanna call it. All I wanna know is, which Bible are you talking about? Are we talking about all 66 books, or are we talking about just the four gospels? Which one? Are we talking about New Testament or Old Testament? We're talking about both. See, that's my problem with these people.

And see, I think part of the problem is that people of consciousness are unwilling to name them. No, I'm talking about you got to name them. No, I'm talking about you got to name them. You got to call them out by name. You've got to look them in the eye and say you are a trifling ass so-called Christian. Because see Ben Shapiro, if you gonna thank the Pope for quote, standing up for biblical values in a chaotic world, I'm going to need you to specify specifically what biblical value.

Because see, here's the problem with folk like Ben Shapiro. And this is the problem with Maga. And this is the problem with the Republican Party. This is the problem with Paula White. This is the problem with punk-ass Dr. Phil. This is the problem with punk Republican Party. This is the problem with Paula White. This is the problem with punk-ass Dr. Phil. This is the problem with punk-ass Drew Pinsky. This is the problem with punk-ass Dr. Oz. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,

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Get your tickets today, AXS.com. This is a problem with sorry ass Ted Cruz. This is a problem with all of these so-called Christians. Y'all think this is golden corral. It's a buffet. I'm a pick a little bit of this. I'm a pick a little bit of that and I'm a skip some of this. But y'all don't want to deal with it. Jesus did not talk about anything

at a greater rate than the poor. So which party that claims to love Jesus, they got some of the biggest crosses. Which party is fighting on behalf of rich folk in the country? When you support, Robert made the point earlier, when you support cuts to the EPA, because you don't give a damn about water quality, you don't give a damn about any of that,

please by all means tell me who exactly are you supporting? Oh, I'm sorry, I thought y'all were some Jesus loving people. Don't y'all run around quoting Genesis and on the first day the Lord Don't y'all love talking about how God made this God made the earth everything comes from God So everything comes from God Then why are y'all abusing the very thing that God created? Why do y'all say that environmental racism doesn't exist? Why do y'all say that environmental racism doesn't exist? Why do y'all say that climate change is not real?

Why do y'all's response to anything about climate or the environment, that's going to cost too much? But y'all say y'all love Jesus. I'm really confused. I remember the white pastor, we played the video, let me know if y'all can try to chase that down. The white pastor, I think it was in North Carolina, who called out all of these right-wing white conservatives

for buying that punk, that sorry trifling trash Trump Bible that he did with Lee Greenwood that combined the Bible and the Constitution. That a white pastor had the audacity and the unmitigated gall, and he was right, to call them out by saying, you don't sit here and waive your Bible as a Constitution. And he said, you are sworn as a Christian,

as a believer on the Bible and not that document. But that ain't what we dealing with. We dealing with some fake people of faith. We are dealing with some folk who worship a deity who is a devil in Donald Trump. You got Franklin Graham, fake Christian, not even a real pastor, because the real person of faith in the family ain't him, it's Ann Lutz. And if Ann Lutz had other body parts, then she would have taken over her daddy's religious empire. But because Billy Graham believed in giving it to the son and not the daughter

He gave it to Franklin when the real person who should have had it was Ann Lutz, but I'm just gonna leave that alone Franklin Graham questioned Barack Obama's faith But he praises this multi-married Cheating on every wife, got three, four, five baby mamas, no integrity, no credibility, is a massive liar, but Franklin Graham holds him up as the epitome of, we need to pray. We need to pray for Donald Trump. Yeah, we need to pray that Jesus hit him in the head.

We need to pray that somehow he gets hit with a lightning bolt and somehow Jesus is infused in his body, because we know you ain't worth nothing if you can't even hold the Bible right. These people that support Donald Trump, who call themselves people of faith, they are demonic. They are imps for the devil. And I'm going to call it like it is. They ain't people of faith.

They don't believe in the word. And so please, Ben Shapiro, don't give me this crap that, oh, thank you to the Pope for standing up for biblical values in this chaotic world. Name them. See, we need more white pastors like this one right here. Come on, y'all, thank you. Let's go play it. People that don't read and pray will get politics mixed up with church.

They start mixing and meshing together. That's why some of you bring politics into the church. You think that politics is spiritual stuff. Politics is of this world. You think it's your duty to be political about this, that, and the other. No, your duty is to serve the Lord your God with all your

heart, mind, soul, body, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. Don't be talking to me about my spiritual responsibility to vote. I don't have a spiritual responsibility to vote. I have a civic privilege. Don't be telling me that voting is spiritual. See, that's what happens when you don't read and pray. When you don't read and pray, you say,

wow, there's a Bible out now that includes the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Isn't that wonderful? No, no, it's disgusting. It's blasphemous. It's a ploy. Are you kidding me? Some of you are so encouraged by that.

Let me tell you something. The gospel is not an American gospel. It is the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. But, Pastor, I bought the Bible. Really? You're telling me that you're encouraged because someone took a government U.S. Constitution, a document that says we are of the people, by the people, and for the people, the people, the people, the people. And you have put it right beside the word of God,

which is eternal, unchanging, which says, of him, by him, through him, to him, from him, are all things, and you're gonna put those together and be happy about it? God forbid. Now you can get mad if you want to, but I'm gonna tell you something. If you glory in that kind of thing,

you don't have a prayer life. If you glory in that kind of mess, political mess, you do not know what the Word of God says. I'm gonna rare back and tell you something. This is not my home. This world is not my home. I've been sent out just like the 70 were sent out. You've been put here and sent out

just like the 70 were sent out. We've been put here as strangers and pilgrims and we are passing through. I am just walking through. I'm just renting an apartment for a little while in this strange and foreign land. No, sir, my real citizenship is in heaven from which we look for the Lord Jesus Christ who's's gonna change our vile body,

that it may be made like under his glorious body. Eugene, real simple, there are a few white pastors with the guts to say that. Listen, across this country, you have the evangelical church at this point that decided to hit the Republican Party. That's the reason why Iowa kicks off the primaries and presidential cycles.

You don't have to meet white pastors that are walking around with bad level of conviction, bad level of consciousness. The issue also, he's right, these pastors aren't reading their Bibles and they're selectively preaching from their Bibles and they're selectively preaching from their Bibles. You know, you have all the infamous pictures of all the megachurch leaders and, you know, high name faith leaders and faith quotations, you know, their hands extended out over Trump praying for them, but they're not praying for them to do right by, you know, people who are hurting in this country and across the world. They aren't praying for them to do right and solve conflicts of people across the world in this country.

And that's what it's been. You know, you kicked off the segment with Rockery's Faith and Freedom Coalition Annual Gathering. I wouldn't even call it that. I would call it the indoctrination and tyranny annual gathering. And that's what it is. You know, you're not not gonna hear Ben Shapiro, who's not even a Christian,

be able to define what Christian values he's hoping the Pope is standing on and getting the business clear on because he doesn't even believe in them himself. And so we're living in a really, really weird time that's kind of always existed, but now in our forefront for x, y, z reasons. But you know, it is reinforcing, it does feel good to see, you know, particularly white pastors, you know, that we have black pastors have always

spoken to the, one, the truth and conviction of the Bible, two, the truth and conviction of the faith, but the freedom that the faith gives, right? Black liberation theology is a thing, you know, and it's sad that, you know, when Barack Obama got elected during that whole cycle that, you know, the black faith got dragged through the white media. But, you know, it is, you know, well-hardened to see a white pastor standing on business when it comes to the actual faith of Christianity.

I'm just not interested for a second, Rebecca, in giving these people any space to breathe. I was gonna say, I bet you that pastor claps on the twos and fours and not the ones and threes but who knows? You know Eugene kind of hit on this like hearing faith and freedom. I would never intend something called that if you're not talking about liberation. Because the Bible talks about in Christ there is... I mean, I'm talking about, Rebecca, they ain't got nothing about faith and the poor on their agenda. Like, not a year. Look, like, I think I've shared on the show that I grew up Kojic, church account of Christ,

so very much Pentecostal. I was fourth generation Kojic, until in college I started to go to some non-denominational. And what's interesting is that also growing up in the Midwest, I grew up around a lot of white evangelicals because Kojic to some extent is black evangelicals, especially before the bishop sheared out of Detroit era of Kojic. And my dad was a minister.

I remember my dad asked me, what's your favorite passage about Jesus? And I was like, you know, Matthew 21. And for those of you all who aren't familiar, that's the Jesus who fussed and cussed in the temple, who went and he overturned the tables, beat people's behind, pushed them out the temple and said that you are a bunch of corrupt grifters,

get out of my daddy's house. And so when I think in terms of the gospel, when I think in terms of freedom and liberation, it's not what Ben Shapiro and the rest of those ilk are trying to sell. In fact, my viewpoint is that they're trying to sell white supremacy in the frame of trying to use quote unquote biblical words.

And even when people say, oh, I believe in biblical principles, what does that actually mean? How are you living that out? Doesn't the Bible say true religion, undefiled, is taking care of the poor, taking care of the widows, taking care of the fatherless. Those are the tenets of what religion is supposed to be

if you're actually following what the Bible actually says, which, like you said, many of these people aren't. Instead, they're subscribed to a cult that's rooted in white supremacy, just like if I ever walk into a church and the picture of Jesus is blonde and blue-eyed, I'm leaving. That's a cult. It is white supremacy. It's not even quote unquote biblical. So, you know, people got all the way mixed up in this country, especially understand of how black theology plays into this, especially if those descended from slavery

who were forced to deal with spirituality in terms of a slave master's Bible, which didn't have any of the liberation text, any of the freedom, if you're going to use freedom, but I prefer using liberation. So black people in religion, and even to Eugene's point, the way in the Barack Obama presidency, especially the first term, how the black church was really skewered, especially around black liberation theology. I view black people, we're spiritual.

Are we necessarily this Christianity thing that has evolved in Rudy and white supremacy? No. So it doesn't even fall on us that way. Be like, we experience spirituality different, especially for those who are still connected to our ancestral home. So it's cool. I'm glad this minister called it out. But then what? We need all the Southern Baptists to call

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anti-diversity, anti-women, anti all the things and the people that Jesus hung out with in the Bible. Well, Robby, we also need black preachers to be a hell of a lot more proactive in confronting these folk, challenging them to their faces at their conferences, at their events, and not just in their pulpits.

You're absolutely correct. Just kind of to Rebecca's point, and for my etymology nerds, I see you, I hear you, I'm here for you. Look at the word religion itself, then that kind of Latin prefix, R-E-G. What are some other things that have that same prefix? Regulation, regiment, regality. What do they all talk about?

Control, how do you control a group? Do you control them through regulation? Do you control them through being a royal, through regality? Do you control them by regulation? Do you control them through being a royal, through regality? Do you control them by putting them into a regiment where they're doing the same thing all the time? Or do you control them with religion? It all goes into the same thing, and our political leadership has known this for decades, that

the easiest way to control people, to get them to vote against their enlightened self-interest, to get them to not ask any damn questions is through religion. Bob Marley said, some people say great God will come from the sky and take away all your pain and make everybody feel high. But if you know what life is worth, you'll know is here on earth because they want to control you into believing that your goal, your reward comes later, but they will enjoy the fruits of their

labor now. Inside of the buildings, they'll have gold, they'll have marble, they'll have all the trappings of the world, and then tell you to go out and suffer in order to support that. It's that same way in politics and in religion. So when people understand that, they have to start thinking logically about what's best for themselves, as opposed to simply what either the regulatory bodies, the political bodies or the religious bodies are telling you what's best for you while they're not doing the same thing.

Listen, I ain't letting nobody off the hook. We got to call folk out and that's what we gonna do. They talk about naming and claiming, I'm gonna name it and call it. Going to break, we come back. Y'all, I got a whole section of, I might have to bring back crazy ass white people. Cause I got four stores where these people truly have lost their minds.

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and they, I don't even vote for Trump, I don't know what to do. A South Florida woman has now joined the group. She's regretting, she's regretting voting for Trump because her daddy got his ass snatched by ice and now he about to get deported. Roll her crying ass. No one deserves to go through something like this behind bars.

He has lived in Florida for more than half his life and worked for the same construction job for many decades. Every day that goes without him here is a day lost forever. This is about being human, about love, connection, and presence. The one thing he needs the most is the one thing that we're being kept from giving him, which is us. I feel that it would be immoral and inhumane to let a man who is suffering, who is terminally ill,

spend the little time he has left in pain and isolation. Please don't end dinosaur. Please delay his vital memories. We have both of pain and isolation. The American flag stands for compassion, kindness, liberty, and justice for all. We're all human and today I'm asking for one human act of compassion to please let my dad come home. My vote again is to deny the request for conditional medical release.

When I voted for Trump, I supported the very system that allows kind of cruelty to happen I've spent the last few days reflecting and I feel like it came through some sort of revolution I questioned my beliefs, my choices, and my role in all of it My vote wasn't just a mistake It was the ultimate betrayal of the very people that I come from. I feel like living in South Florida surrounded by Republican voices, I was brainwashed into thinking I was one of them. I fell for the propaganda, the normalization of cruelty, and I believed the lies that gave

me a false sense of security and I believe the lies that gave me a false sense of security and belonging. I was convinced that voting for Trump was for the economy or against crime when in reality I was supporting a man and a movement that dehumanizes people. He basically built his platform on targeting immigrants, spreading hate, and pushing policies that ultimately broke families apart. I regret my vote so, so, so deeply and if I could go back and change it, I would. I'm reading, listening, learning, and unlearning everything that I thought I knew. And to anyone who is feeling the same regret as I am am I want you guys to know that there's still a way for us to move forward

But it starts with honesty first to every single person Who has been affected by the choice that I made I am so so sorry A lot of you aren't going to forgive me and I'm really not expecting anyone to A lot of you aren't going to forgive me, and I'm really not expecting anyone to, but I just want everyone to know that I'm going to move forward with more compassion, continue educating myself, and fight for those who can't fight for themselves.

Which one of y'all want to come on that bullshit? Y'all go ahead. I ain't, I ain't, I am so tired. Oh my God. Compassion, compassion, faith, and liberty, and justice for all. Now I've had a revelation. Not... Well, listen, as a resident Republican in this RME family, I'll be the one to let her know we don't give a F-U-C-K.

You decided to op up with Donald Trump and we're opping out of all of it. We tried to tell you, we tried to tell you what was coming out of pipeline. We tried to tell you, go read project 2025. We tried to tell you that, hey, you know, you saw the results in the first administration, so it's probably gonna be worse in the second administration.

We tried to tell you, we did, we did our best. And you know, her and a lot of other, you know, Hispanic folk said, you know, we're gonna be like Trump. And now they're crying because, you know, their abuelas, their moms, their dads, you know, a river river be about like Trump. And now they're crying because you know, their abuela, their moms, their dads, their brothers, their sisters, their cousins are being snatched up by, you know, literal mass men. But at this point in time,

and it's because it's Wednesday and their kids probably watching, you don't get that. Maybe next time you vote right, you won't have to deal with this. I'm just gonna go ahead and make me a protein shake. Robert, go on ahead, go on ahead. Cause I can't even, you know, all that bullshit. And, oh my God, I'm surrounded by Republicans.

I was brainwashed. Like, yo dumb ass can't read. Look, Roland, as the resident Haitian on the show, I have Haitian family members in Florida who voted for Trump and are dealing with similar situations currently. And what, hold up, what the hell were they thinking when he said, he, he sent the ass back last time.

He was saying Haitians were eating cats and dogs and they dumb asses voted for him? Do you ain't gotta tell me, I tried to tell them and they ain't believe these things were taking place and now they see. But to all those individuals out there who are hearing this and who are realizing maybe he wasn't playing, who are thinking to themselves, well maybe we wouldn't be going to war

if we ran by June and maybe wouldn't have troops in the streets of major cities by the end of May, and maybe he wouldn't crash the economy in 100 days. Maybe you thought that he was joking about that. Well, now you know and you understand. And guess what? The doors of the church are open. You are welcome back, come back home,

because we need you for the midterms. We gotta stop thinking about what happened in 2024 and start thinking about 2026. And all y'all people who will regret your vote, it's time to come forward, tell your story, tell your testimony, encourage more people to turn out. We have to increase those numbers. Elections are about addition, not subtraction.

So we have to bring those people back in. So if you realize you made a bad decision and may have accidentally voted for Hitler in 1933, you're welcome to come back if we still have elections in 2026. We need you. Rebecca, I'm just gonna channel Bernie Mac. I don't give a book. I mean, I'm not gonna go back and forth with people who think they're Spanish instead of indigenous, you know? I mean, that's a pathology. That's a choice.

I think instead of doing some of this performative stuff, some of those people should just take that to the grave. If I don't know how you voted, then you know what, child? Take that to the grave. And, you know, sorry for you. I hope you and your family figure it out. Let's go to our next story. Racist white man in Massachusetts.

His ass about to go to jail because he decided to throw a rock that impacted some black folks. So what did he do? He threw a rock, threw some rocks at a black father and his daughter while they were fishing last month. He appeared before the judge to face the charges against him. Now, he's 67-year-old. His name is David McPartlin. He's charged with assault, with a dangerous weapon, and assault to intimidate in connection with the

May 26 incident. Sheron Brown, his 10-year-old daughter, were fishing on a local lake when this white man, they identified as McPartlin, came out of his home and told them they couldn't fish in the area. But that's when Brown recorded the brief interaction where McPartlin called them a racial slur. Brown then called the police. According to court documents,

McPartlin admitted to throwing rocks and said, quote, he slipped out a word that maybe shouldn't have. The judge entered a not guilty plea on my partner's behalf and he was released on his own reconnaissance. He's scheduled to appear in court next month. Now, now come on. Now, Rob, I don't know what happened. Nigga just slipped out.

I don't know what happened. It was the GA. I don't know what happened. It just, it just, oh, it just, just slipped out. It just slipped out. Man, I hope they slip your ass in jail. I don't care if you walking in that can. See, I'm just, and now the daddy,

the daddy upset because his daughter, she no longer interested in fish. She don't wanna go near the water because of this racist white man in Massachusetts. What I want people to remember are a couple of key words and phrases. So you are encounter yourself in a situation like this. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

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invoke self-defense and make sure the police hear this. At that point, you can officially whoop that person's ass, actually. You're defending yourself from an individual who was assaulting you with rocks. You don't know the nature of the rocks. You don't know what their intentions are. He doesn't know what happens the minute that he decides to commit a felonious assault upon you and for this reason you're Legally entitled to beat the brakes off the happy ass because if you get yourself in that situation Occasionally you'll have to find out about consequences and class is important for us to appreciate the word of the day, which is consequences Okay. Look I ain't no lawyer

So this is how the call should go. Hey, 911, I'm gonna need y'all to send the cops and send the ambulance, because a white man is through some rocks and me and my daughter, I'm about to whoop his ass right now for self-defense, so he gonna need an ambulance when I'm done with his punk ass. That's how my call gonna go. Okay, all right, so let me go on this one here. White woman in California loses her damn mind, calls some black movers niggas.

Now she mad. Cause they recorded a video, posted on TikTok. It's got more than two million views, roll it. I can't get out. I live here. I can't get out of my fucking house. Fuck you. Yeah, I think a simple,

can you move your truck please, would have sufficed. Right, glad I recorded that okay so here's it here the details here okay the black guys were moving they were the truck was blocking the street dr. the block in the driveway she comes out and says act the fool needs y'all to move they said no problem we'll move the truck but she had to get a little extra, then calls him the N-word. Well, what then happens?

They post a video on TikTok. Her ass got real famous real fast. Then her dumb ass, what does she decided to do? She decided to hit them up. Can y'all take the video down? She got rid of all of our social media as well. No, when I saw the story, Rebecca, I was like, no, I think she needs to be more famous. Roll that shit again.

I can't get out. I live here. I can't get out of my fucking house. Fuck you. Yeah, I think a simple, can you move your truck please, would have sufficed. You stupid nigger? Right. Glad I recorded that. Mm-hmm. Mm. Ain't that something? Carl said, mm, you stupid nigger. That's the quote that she actually used. And so I can't, for some reason, I can't pull up my iPad today. But the white woman in the video, Rebecca, her name

is Kaylee Buchanan, B-U-C-H-I-G-N-A-N-I. Her ass done left the state. Her ass done left the state. She's some... Her ass done left the state. Y'all, she's dyed her hair purple, so she can't be recognized. She's gotten rid of all of her social media. Uh, this is the quote that she said on Zoom to, uh, this, uh, K-RON Channel 4.

I'm sorry for what I said it I'm sorry I wanted to hurt you but it's but but it's not because I'm a horrible person it's because I've been struggling recently but you don't need says she's received death threats Rebecca and had people harass her about what she said in the video she also said that even her parents are getting phone calls quote Rebecca I had to change my number turn off all social media have people calling me giving me death threats multiple people a day calling me harassing me telling me what a horrible person I am still get phone calls. I'm sorry, it's above me now. I mean, I guess her parents should raise her better. I mean, she learned that from something.

I mean, yeah, she fled the state. Those boots are made for walking. She walked up out of that state. I mean, come on. Like, don't let this president—don't let all this rhetoric that you are hearing on TV confuse you. Like, people aren't dealing with this. Just like last week, we talked about some of the changes in the military. Like, look, people can say what they want. They can do all this anti-DEI and say, we're going to remove Medgar Egger's name and Evers' name and all that stuff. But the rank of foul is still primarily black folks and some brown folks. Like every day, regular, deglar people aren't putting up with this.

So whatever courage y'all think you're getting from the president, you don't got the president's security. And y'all need to just leave people alone because people are fed up. Leave us the F alone. We don't bother nobody. We don't want to bother y'all. Just leave us alone. But if you bother us, yeah, might have to move. Eugene, I got one more. Her ass said you're gonna love

this one here. She was asked the question if the N word is something that she says often, she says, quote, no, I do not. Hold up. Here it comes. I grew up with a lot of black people. And then she went, and with the music we listened to, sure, maybe in a different form. Do I say it that way?

No, I don't. It was merely just, I don't. It was merely just, he hurt me. I wanted to hurt him. It had nothing to do with me being a racist. Gone. Gone. So look, this is what I want them brothers to do, all right?

I'm pretty sure you got some folk that support you. I want, when them cash apps come through, I want her to relive this forever. So when the cash apps come through, that's what I want you to do. I want you to go over to one of these little platforms. All right? I want you to take out an ad,

and I want you to just run that video, that 15 seconds of her calling you an anti-GGER so she can never escape it no matter where she goes. And I'm asking you, I want you to make sure she never escapes it. Because you know one more time it just it just rolled right off her lips. She knew what she was doing, she knew what she wanted to say. You know it was her entitlement. She thought she owned the street. You know, one more time, home bro said, all you had to do was ask me to move the truck. We would have moved the truck for you.

But you know, she had to strut away, thinking she was some kind of badass and call him a nigger. And what we're not gonna do is make sure, you know, things she could just, you know, ease on out of it by, you know, delete my social media. And then I'm gonna dye my hair. Sorry, this is 2025, baby girl.

I think a doctor's still scared of it. I'm not advocating for it. As a victim, I'm not advocating for it. But listen, I just want white people to stop calling black people niggas so that you don't have to deal with the find out part of the fuck around. But I love how she like, well, you know, it's in our music.

You know, I can imagine. What's her little name again? I can imagine her little trifling ass. Well, hold on, let me go back. I can imagine Kaylee sitting here, like, well you know, I ain't mean it that way, you know, I kinda mean it, you know, I said it, but I ain't quite said it in that form.

Can you imagine Kaylee doing this here? ["Dumb for Money"] Uh, doing this here. What? What? Magic. Magic. What? Magic. Magic. What? Magic. Magic.

Magic. Magic. What? Girl, come on. Come on. I'm, I'm, I'm, y'all, they really getting on my damn nerves. Okay, hold up. I gotta get y'all, tell y'all about this one here.

Hold up. We ain't done. Okay, let's see. We done done with the Trump person. We done done with the old racist ass rock throw with an old racist ass Kaylee. Now let's go to this one here. New Hampshire Republican. He blames black people. We the problem for all the gun violence in America. That's right y'all. Travis Corcoran wrote his email in response to receiving an invitation from a gun safety, y'all can't nobody see that. We should have bloated. Come on. Okay. Come on now. Y'all should have, come on. My Lord have mercy. Okay. He wrote an email in response to receiving an invitation from a gun safety organization to participate in National Gun Violence Awareness Day.

He posted both the email from the organization and his response email on Twitter saying, quote, I get emails from gun grabbers, I respond. Check this out. He said, Rachel, thanks for writing. Some people say that I'm on the spectrum, probably, and I think that's likely correct. Three indications of this are A,

I'm averse to change in clothes changes in clothing I tend to wear black t-shirts every single day B. I'm quite interested in data and statistics see I'm Unconcerned about the popularity or social Expectability of the conclusions that I reach and the opinions I espouse with regards to gun violence I've done a deep dive on the topic and all of the data that I read indicates that violence isn't associated with the presence of guns, but with the presence of African Americans. Blacks commit violent crimes at five to 10 times the rate of whites.

This is one reason that there's such an amazingly tight correlation between states with a majority white population and states with extraordinarily low crime rates. I agree that awareness is important. People need to understand facts. If they're gonna push for the correct policies to reduce violence, you have my pledge

that I will wear a black t-shirt on Friday, June 6th to help make people aware of the fact that crime is predominantly caused by African Americans and not by guns. Have a great week. Well, I'm just curious. Now Robert, I know your ass love guns, like I drink protein shakes,

but what's real interesting to me is every time there's a mass shooting, if I had to go to a betting market, I put my money on a white man. You know, you can take it even further, Roland, because what happens is we're dealing with a question of definitions here, because they say gun violence,

because they want to skew the statistics towards black people. Now, if you'd say, well, how many police officers shoot people per year, and does that count as gun violence? There's violence, there's a gun, but because they wear a uniform, that doesn't count inside of those statistics.

How many people a year are killed by white militaries worldwide? Using guns, using bombs, using rockets, et cetera. Does that count? Are we to say that because of the European world wars from 1900 to 1945, 100 million people died, because of that, can we to say that because of the European world wars, from 1900 to 1945, 100 million people died, that because of that, can we simply say that Europeans, by their very nature, can't handle guns, and that gun violence is correlated with that?

These are the sorts of ridiculous things that we end up fighting against, and that these are the arguments that we are losing when we allow these conservatives to change the American educational system, when you allow them to come in and start saying, we have to get rid of CRT, we have to get rid of DEI and education, we have to make sure we're doing this patriotic American version. What they're talking about is enshrining white supremacy in the consciousness of the next generation.

They fear that the next generation does not believe in nothing the mythology of America and the holiness and divinity of white Americans. And that's why they are changing this from the youngest going forward and calling anything else woke. This is nothing less than a fight for the minds, bodies and souls of the next generation. And going back to the last story, this may not be the worst time for us to return to that conversation about why exactly we have the N word in so much of music

and entertainment in America. In the 90s, we said the F word for the gay community all the time. We ain't heard that in public in five, 10 years. We used to call women the B word in music all the time. Now, instead of doing that, we call that feminism. We would never hear them make a song called, say, F them other J words, talking about the Jewish community, the way they would have songs saying F that other N word, or any other

group. So, black folks saying the N word have made white people a lot of money over the course of the last 50 years. It may be time to revisit that conversation to ask, well, why exactly is that the last taboo that's allowed to be part of popular culture? You can't say the R word anymore with regard to people with disabilities, but we allow them to still make millions

and billions of dollars by us using that word. Eugene, this white boy crazy. Listen, listen, I'm gonna just give him some quick advice. As a former vice chair of a Republican state party, just resign. Just resign and go off to the sunset. Because if you decide to fight this, if you decide to make it a bigger story than what it already is, it's just going to hurt you downstream. You shouldn't have said it.

The statement is asinine, because, hey, you know, he said, oh, majority whites, well, guess what? There's no state in this country or territory that's majority black. There's no state that's majority black. All right? And then most importantly, we know that violent crime more times than not is an issue of proximity to poverty, the two P's. And so, I mean, on the eve of Juneteenth, I think that's a great argument for reparations and whatnot and say, hey, if you actually want to deal with violent crime, deal with poverty, deal with proximity. But we're also going to talk about violent crime.

There are more white gun crimes in America than there are black gun crimes in America. That's just a fact by virtue of population. You could talk about densities, but when it comes to actual numbers, the numbers are still gonna be the same. So, you know, Dune needs just to resign. New Hampshire GOP, which is one of the crazy GOPs and whatnot, they need to kick him out the party and on his way out because, hey, if things like this

are gonna define you, go for it. Rebecca, go on right ahead. Two things, if black people were really committing such a horrible rampage across this country and using all these guns and doing all the violence in this country, then guess what white people would do in this country? They would make guns illegal,

if that's what was happening. That is not what's happening. The second thing, if we're gonna talk about New Hampshire, okay, cool, New Hampshire I, is less than 1% black. So please tell me why all those Native American women are disappearing and being assaulted. There ain't black people doing that. So maybe you need to focus on that particular issue

in your particular state and say, speak in behalf of people which you probably don't even know. Defo crazy. And so we gonna call them out, we gonna call them out. It's a bunch of stuff we didn't get to, but I gotta go ahead and play this here because there's nothing better to me than seeing Pete Hicks get his get his ass slapped all around.

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I believe the Secretary of Defense has just responded last week and admitted that the $1 billion mission that he led against the Houthis who do not have a Navy has not restored the transit of U.S. flag commercial vessels through the Red Sea and, in fact, has resulted in the loss of two F-18 Hornets to the tune of $60 million a piece, as well as, I believe the last count was seven Reaper drones to the tune of another $200 million. You are blowing through money, like my fellow cadets and I did in our first liberty after basic camp. Luckily, I didn't end up with a questionable tattoo. Your failures, Mr. Secretary, since you've taken office, has been

staggering. You sent classified operational information over Signal to chest thump in front of your wife, who, by the way, has no security clearance, risking service member lives in the process. You blew the $1 billion fight against the Houthis, whom, again, as my colleague says, has no Navy, and yet you lost all of those aircraft. You've created such a hostile command environment

that no one wants to serve as your chief of staff or work with you in other senior DOD leadership roles. But what we should all be talking about, more than all of this, is that you have an unjustified, un-American misuse of the military in American cities, pulling resources and attention away from core missions to the detriment of the country, the war fighters,

and yes, the war fighting that you claim to love. I don't know if this is because you are too inexperienced and incompetent to understand the real threats facing our country, or if it's because you are just an unqualified yes man who can't tell the president how to keep Americans safe. You are focusing on renaming bases for Confederate generals. You said just now to Senator King

that to a man and to a woman, we would rather be associated with the old Confederate names. Well, I am one of those women. I served at Fort Rucker, Alabama, a base that was named for a traitor who took arms against the United States of America, led troops who killed Americans. It was renamed from Mike Novosel, a Medal of Honor recipient, who in his citation for the Medal of Honor includes that he saved his citation for the Medal of Honor, includes that he saved

29 American lives, to include hovering backwards in a helicopter towards an enemy bunker where a wounded American was laying and saved that person, including after being taken fire himself. I know a little something about what it takes to fly a helicopter when you've been hit by enemy fire. That was heroic. I'd rather be associated with Mike Novosel than a failed Confederate traitor. I don't know whether you are inexperienced or too incompetent, but I wonder when you will actually focus on our nation's warfighting mission.

We know that California is just a deliberate, systematic, political, and dangerous campaign led by you. We should not be using our mayoral military to pay cops against Americans. General Cain, as chairman, a key part of your job is to coordinate military planning across the Joint Force. Is the department currently incorporating into any military plans expanding the use of the reserve forces to include the National Guard or active duty troops to support domestic law enforcement including in other locations in the United States. Senator you know we we careful general

well it's it's it's not really a yes or no question madam senator we we plan all kinds of different things I'm not aware of any I'm not aware of anything but the reason why I'm answering is the tags may be looking at something that I'm not aware of. What are you doing at your level you're not aware of anything, but the reason why I'm answering is the tags may be looking at something that I'm not aware of. What are you doing at your level? You're not aware of that being happening at your level? Because we know that on his first day, President Trump directed U.S. Northern Command to revise its Unified Command Plan to add new planning requirements to combat, and I quote, criminal

activities. A series of follow-up executive orders continue to redirect DOD priorities to supporting domestic law enforcement, including one in April that tells DOD, and I quote, use national security assets for law and order. In other words, do law enforcement's job. I'd like to enter these executive orders into the record, Mr. Chairman. Is there objection? Without objection, so were you.

Secretary Hexth, you say you are focused on war fighting and warriors. These are your words. Yet, you are diverting untold DOD resources and attention to fundamentally non-military mission of domestic policing. Across the country, we have qualified police officers who are trained for that mission. They know those streets better than the Marines you deploy to Los Angeles, who normally focus on the Indo-Pacific. And you recently approved 700 more troops in three other states to do admin and logistics

works for ICE. You say all of this is valuable training, but I would much rather have our troops do tough, realistic training relevant to high-end combat. Instead of typing in spreadsheets for ICE, they should be conducting live fire maneuver exercises. Instead of patrolling American neighborhoods and standing in front of federal buildings,

they should be rehearsing call for fire missions. We have local police who can stand in front of those federal buildings. And the list of distractions goes on. You are encouraging the DOD workforce to go work for DHS in increasing numbers. You're pulling the military away from facing foreign enemies who literally say things like death to America. And you're putting troops with weapons aimed at Americans. Mr. Secretary, let the military get back to its real job.

Stop fording them to do DHSs and if you want to be a DHS secretary, maybe you can apply for that job when you're fired from this one, but due to your incompetence. Ooh, damn, Rebecca, she read his ass for few. That was the clip I needed to see going into Juneteenth. I mean, what more can you say? Look, she is a true patriot. She served honorably in our nation's military. And so when we talk about experts,

that's what expertise looks like. So we saw a clear, someone who is not an expert but has the position. And then we saw an expert. We saw also one who is very thoughtful when it comes to policy, especially around our military. Our military is never supposed to be deployed in U.S. cities towards American citizens. That is something that our military—that's something that's within the purview of our military. And so what we're seeing is an administration

that's using very unconstitutional measures for political advantage. And so Americans ought to be extremely upset with what's going on. And I wish more Americans would truly understand all of the unconstitutional things that we're seeing that's happening in this moment. If this was good times, Eugene, And I wish more Americans would truly understand all of the unconstitutional things that we're seeing that's happening in this moment.

If this was good times, Eugene, it'd be like, damn, damn, damn! Eugene, if you're gonna respond, your ass can't be on mute. My bad, sorry. You're not gonna have it muted enough, all right? You're mute up, mute out. But, I mean, talk about getting the business clear.

I mean, since you told them, she said, listen, we grew here, you flew here, and don't belong here. And we still gonna be here after they get your ass up out of here. Senator Duckworth, we appreciate her service as a country and her team service as a country. Because look, you need people like her that literally have the lived experience to be able to actually deal with an out-of-control Pentagon executive branch in real time.

I believe she outranked him in service. I know now, of course, he's, you know, sect death. But, you know, the thing is this, you know, he will eventually be fired. You know, whether it's a response to Iran or something else, Trump will eventually get rid of him. But there will be members like, it will be senators like Senator Duckworth and others that will still be standing strong afterwards. But she told him, said, listen, you knew here, you know, we grew here, you flew here, and you know, we still gonna be here

when they get your ass up out of here. Bob Lyon here, that's the kind of heat. Look, he been a pompous ass on Capitol Hill all week, Robert, that's how you need to put that fool in his place. Yeah, and for people who didn't watch the entire hearing, that was, the entire hearing was like that, with people reading the riot debt. And this is why I encourage people to understand, don't look at the people at the top of the Trump cabinet. These are actors.

He literally pulled half of them off of TV. They don't know anything about it. They're just there to go look on camera and do things. Dig down into the documents and find the undersecretaries. Find the technocrats you've never heard of. Those are the people who are really running the government. Do you really think they put the drunk guy from Fox and Friends Weekend in charge of a $1 trillion budget?

No. So, when I say that this is important, you have to look at what the current U.S. policy is with regards to Iran. The reason that we are massing aircraft carriers in the region, bringing third aircraft carrier from the Straits of Malacca to the Persian Gulf, the reason we are repositioning as many as 50 aerial refueling tankers from the East Coast of the U.S. to European command. The reason two months ago we repositioned 19 B-2 stealth bombers from Missouri to Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean is because very clearly we're about to go bomb the hell out of Iran. And Israel has already started taking out the early warning radars, taking out the command and

control centers, assassinating much of their high-level leadership, taking out He early warning radars, taking out the command and control centers, assassinating much of their high-level leadership, taking out Hezbollah and the Houthis and Hamas, who are their proxies in the region. But folks need to understand that Iraq and Iran are not the same thing. Iran has a space program. Iran has one of the most powerful drone armies known to mankind. So, they were selling drones to Russia the last two years.

If you think we're simply going to go in and in two weeks remove them the same way did Saddam during Desert Storm, that is not going to take place. And before this administration runs its headlong into another 20-year entanglement in the Middle East, we need to be asking serious questions about what exactly is happening, what it will mean, and whether or not we should be spilling American blood for a war that Netty Yahoo started. Bomb line is,

way to go Senator Tammy Duckworth. Rebecca, Eugene Robert, I so appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Hey folks, we don't have a show tomorrow. Tomorrow's Juneteenth. We normally do a show on Juneteenth, but we're gonna be broadcasting live on Saturday from Richmond, Virginia

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