#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Karmelo Anthony Defense Rests. Trump Insults Black Reporter. Iowa Scholarship Win

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

6.8.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Karmelo Anthony Defense Rests. Trump Insults Black Reporter. Iowa Scholarship Win_ For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trus...ted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership*_ Karmelo's Defense attorneys rested their case today without calling him to testify.Closing arguments are scheduled to begin on Tuesday before the case is eventually handed to the jury for deliberations.  Legal Analyst Thelma Anderson will breakdown what happened in the courtroom.  A scholarship designed to support Black students pursuing careers in chemistry and the physical sciences is at the center of a recent Iowa Supreme Court decision.  For now, the decision blocks the University of Iowa's attempt to change the eligibility criteria for this privately funded award.  We'll speak with one of the attorneys involved in the case. The Marshall Project reported at least 47 suicides in solitary confinement across Mississippi prisons between 2015 and 2025.  We'll discuss this troubling pattern with one of the reporters who discovered that many inmates had previously requested mental health assistance, only to be placed in restrictive housing instead of receiving the care they needed.  Once again, Trump insulted a black female reporter.  We'll show you the exchange that made the twice-impeached, criminally convicted felon-in-chief, Donald "The Con" Trump abruptly end the interview with NBC's Meet The Press Moderator, Kristen Welker. Black Star Network Partner: ChapterFor free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options.____Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:08:03 but also dealing with their physical and mental well-being as well. In Texas, the Carmelo Anthony Defense arrested without calling him to testify. It was a difficult day in court when the jury showed audible gas when they saw a gruesome autopsy. photos of the young man that Carmelo Anthony is charged with killing. Also today, a federal court ruled that officials in Iowa cannot repurpose a scholarship specifically meant for African Americans.
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Starting point is 00:09:08 He insults her on his way out as he continues to advance the lie of election fraud from 2020. Folks, it's time to bring the funk I'm Roland Martin on Filcher. On the Black Star Network, let's go. And for closing arguments in the case of Carmelo Anthony, the young man who was charged with murder in Collin County, Texas.
Starting point is 00:10:30 The defense today rested without calling Carmelo to testify. Of course, he is on trial for the murder of a white teen that took place at a track meet there in Collin County. The all-white jury of 11 women and seven men, they will decide the fate of this black team. Joining us tomorrow, again, closing arguments will begin on tomorrow. A legal analyst, Thelma Anderson, has been in Collin County following this trial. And so get us up to date.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Thelma, Saturday, the trial took place on Saturday. And then, of course, you had the defense taking over and today. So let's talk about what took place on Saturday. and then let's talk about what happened today. The prosecution continued advancing their case on Saturday. What took place? Absolutely. On Saturday, the state called their final witness,
Starting point is 00:11:30 one of their final witnesses, which was the young man who invited Carmelo into the tent. So they called, I think his name is Eddie Hara. He's a student at Memorial with the brothers, Hunter, and Austin. So they called him. him and it was a very explosive day because he got on their stand and he completely denied that he knew Carmelo. And it was very weird that the state would allow one of their main witnesses to get on the stand and discredit themselves and have the, allow the defense to come in and ruin their credibility by showing actual pictures of him and Carmelo at friend gatherings,
Starting point is 00:12:14 at family gatherings. And he got on that stand and denied. that he even knew Carmela, which was very exposed and very bad for the state. So that was one of the things that happened. Right. Okay. Go ahead. That was one of the pivotal moments that happened on the state side, and then they ended up resting right after the defense completely ruined his credibility.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And so once they rested, then the defense started their case, which the defense ended up calling a state witness who the state decided not to call because once we heard his testimony, it was very clear he brought too much truth to the credibility of Carmelo as to why the state decided not to call this individual who was actually sitting right there, saw everything, and is the one that gave the police officers the statement that Carmelo was invited into the tent. Carmelo was not aggressive. Hunter was the aggressive one. Austin then, reciprocated the energy of his brother, as well as he said something that was very damaging, which was Austin was substantially bigger than Carmelo, who was sitting down the entire time,
Starting point is 00:13:30 which adds to the proportion of weight classes of when a person is deciding, okay, this person is bigger than me. I cannot take them. I'm in fear of my life. I'm going to have to use force necessary to defend myself. So that's pretty much what happened on Saturday that now trickled over till today Monday. Okay. So how many witnesses did Carmelo's defense team call today? They called a total of three. They called a total of three witnesses. So you talked about one of those witnesses with the state witnesses, one of those witnesses with the state witness. Who were the other two witnesses? The other two. So one was a state witness. Well, two of them was a state
Starting point is 00:14:19 witness. We had an officer and we had one of Carmelo's teammates that gave a statement. And then we had an individual who wouldn't be considered a state witness because he was a student at a different school, but he was there during a track meet and actually saw a physical altercation take place. All right. And so then they chose to rest. Now they head to closing arguments. And so, So, you know, clearly the state believes that they have, they've made their case. Are you surprised that Carmel's defense team only called three witnesses? I'm not surprised because, as I've stated from the inception, the burden to meet each and every element is on the state, and it never shifts even in a self-defense claim. I can tell you that throughout this particular trial, the inconsistencies from these state's witnesses was very strange is that the defense wasn't even calling their witnesses.
Starting point is 00:15:26 The state called them in order to bring out even more truth that the state I feel like was trying to bury in the inconsistencies to pretty much confuse the jury. I'm like, why would you risk this type of trial with such weak evidence and such weak inconsistent statements? that were not reliable. And I would add something, something today happened that was explosive, that we still don't know what happened. It was, we were supposed to go back in after lunch at 1230,
Starting point is 00:15:57 but we didn't go back into two, which there's a question of what was going on within that time frame because it was some, some energy coming out of that courtroom. And we were waiting to see if Hunter was going to testify because the defense had the ability to call that brother, which he didn't, the state didn't call him, which we know he has a lot of credibility issues. But we were waiting to see if the defense was going to call Hunter.
Starting point is 00:16:23 But after that lunch and that hour and a half break, that added after that lunch, we are still trying to figure out what happened as to why both sides had this intensity about themselves coming outside of their courtroom. All right then. So again, closing arguments will be taking place tomorrow in that Cowan County. and then the jury will now get that case and decide the fate of Carmelo Anthony, of course, who is being tried for murder there in Collin County. Belma Anderson,
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Starting point is 00:24:52 No one in modern history who is as shameful, despicable, and pathetic as Donald Trump. All he does is show disrespect. and how he degrades other people, especially journalists, especially black women journalists, this weekend. He was being interviewed by NBC's Christian Welker for the media press and was contentious interview. Donald Trump continued to lie, lie about the 2020 election, and when challenged on it, the petulant child acted as if he sold his pants and got up angry and walked out on the interview. Watch. Billion, so-called anti-weaponization fund.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It was going to compensate people who say the federal government weaponized the legal system against them. It's been blocked by the courts met with opposition from Republicans and Democrats and Congress and Democrats. Excuse me, mostly Democrats. Mostly Democrats and some Republicans. Very few Republicans. Just to be very clear, are you backing off the fund completely, as your acting Attorney General Todd Blanche has said, Or are you looking for another avenue to revive the fund? So let me explain what the fund is.
Starting point is 00:26:09 People have been hurt so badly by radical left lunatics that work for the Biden administration and Sleepy Joe. They're vicious, they're violent, what they did to people. And of course, they went after me more than anybody else. They raided Mar-a-Lago and all the other things. But people have been badly hurt. They've committed suicide. They've lost their jobs. They've lost their families.
Starting point is 00:26:33 they've lost their wives, they've lost everything. They've lost everything over a fake weaponization of government. So are you looking for a way to revive it? Well, look, it was up to me. I'd pay them the kind of money that they deserve. People have been destroyed. Lives have been destroyed. Many suicides.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Think of it. People have committed suicide because a bunch of thugs went after them. So me personally, I think the weaponization fund is a job. great idea. And so do many other Republicans. You have to get it approved. If they get it approved, that's great. If they don't get it approved, I'd be disappointed. All right. We're going to motor through this. But you have to say people have been destroyed by crooked politicians, and they should be reimbursed for them. Do you think anyone who attack police officers on January 6th should get taxpayer money? I wouldn't be inclined to say,
Starting point is 00:27:33 but I have to see it. I can tell you this, 97% of those people, you look at them, the FBI or whoever it was, because you had a lot of crooked cops, you had dirty cops, Comey was a dirty cop. A guy like Bolton was a dirty cop. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Oh, you think Comey was a straight cop? Who pleaded guilty to assaulting police officers. Call me was a dirty cop. No, no, but the people who assaulted police officers. Listen to me. They had FBI agents ushering them into the building. They had FBI go into the building. Those people, walking around, they're looking, oh, is it in this night? They weren't in, they were being ushered into the building. There's no evidence of that. You had a bunch of dirty cops, and frankly, what they did was
Starting point is 00:28:13 weaponization of our government. But, sir, there's no evidence of that, more than a thousand people. No, there's none. You know what you do? Try looking at the tapes one time. Would you take it off the table? Look at the tapes one time. But 172 people did plead guilty to assaulting police officers.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You know why they pled guilty? Because they told they were going to jail for 15 years if they didn't. Should they? They pled guilty because they were frightened. They went down. They were ushered into a building. Many of them were arrested without even going into the building. So you'd be okay with them receiving taxpayer dollars?
Starting point is 00:28:44 The people were destroyed by dirty cops and by weaponization. Many of those people should be compensated. Now, with that being said, as I understand it, the weaponization fund was going to set up a group of people. people that could be picked by anybody, fair people, smart people, and they will go on an individual case basis. Now, I don't know what's going to happen with the weaponization fund.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I love the idea because people like you, the fake, dirty press, the crooked press, people like stupid Biden, he's not smart enough to know what's going on, but people that surrounded him surrounded his beautiful, resolute desk in the Oval Office. what they did to the lives of people, they destroyed people.
Starting point is 00:29:34 They sent people to jail who did nothing wrong. Just to be very clear, there's no evidence of what you're saying. But let me ask you about Todd Blanche. Listen to me. Listen to me. Let's talk about Todd Blanche. This tremendous evidence. There's nothing but evidence.
Starting point is 00:29:48 The election was rigged. It was a dirty election. And it's happening again right now in California. You've never presented evidence. It's happening right now in California. Right now it's looking, look at what's happening. Where's the court of law? evidence to that. It's four days. In California, it's, no, they're not, they're dropping
Starting point is 00:30:06 fast because it's a rigged election. Let me tell you, it's four days and they aren't even close to coming up with it. You know why they're doing that? Because they're cheating on the election. There's, what, do you have evidence to support that? All I have to do is look. All I have to do is look. And I listen, and I listen to people and let's see what happens. But, sir, that's not evidence. Do you think it's appropriate that they count the votes in California? You think it's appropriate that They have an election, and five days later, they're nowhere close to pick any winner. State local officials acknowledge they are slow, they're urging. No, they're crooked.
Starting point is 00:30:38 They're urging the votes to be counted quickly. That's how they vote in California. They're crooked, just like you're crooked, your press is crooked, and meet the press is crooked. To be fair, I'm not crooked, but let's, let's continue. Well, you play right into their hands in. Let's continue. You're either crooked or you're stupid. You play right into their hands with a strap.
Starting point is 00:30:54 You know that these elections are rigged. Your network knows that they're rigged. You know that I won an election in a landslide, and I got 94% bad press. But, Mr. President, you know why I got that? Because you have no credibility. But you've never presented evidence that it was rigged. Let's keep talking about. I want to talk about Todd Lynch.
Starting point is 00:31:13 You have more evidence. There's more evidence than ever presented. Let's talk about. Your elections in this country, we're like a third world country. Your elections are crooked, and you're crooked, and meet the press is crooked. And so is ABC and CBS and CBS. But Mr. President, your one-sided crooked network. So let's call it quits because I've had enough.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Thank you, darling. Have a good time. Mr. President, let's please, I traveled all the way to Wisconsin. I've sat in the rain with you. I know. I've sat the rain with you for an hour. On and off in the rain, and I've given you enough time. You ought to straighten out your press because you know what?
Starting point is 00:31:50 A country can never be great with a dishonest place. Listen, we traveled all the way to Wisconsin for this interview. By pound, Dr. Ome, Congo, to being a senior, Professor. Electric School International Service, American University, author of Lives about Black People, How to Combat Races, Joining Us from D.C. Dr. Derek Jackson, Georgia State Representative out of Atlanta. Glad to have both of you here.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Let's just be real clear on the Congo. He is a decrepit individual. He has no bottom. And let's just be honest. These Republicans, they support this crap. They don't mind this crap. They don't care how he treats people, abuses people, and he's just a shameful individual.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah, it's disgusting. And, you know, he has so much disdain for the media in general, Don Lemon, Jim Acosta, but we know a particular level of distinct goals towards black women. And I applaud Kristen Walker for what she did because, quite honestly, I've been disappointed with some of her interviews, but I've been disappointed with a lot of these guys' interviews because I've never seen Trump get this level of pushback, and she kept pushing. You know, at the end, though, when she was like, you know, I came all the way out here, that kind of represents the problem with the media is that he's verbally abusive to them and they keep coming back to him.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I get it. The president you want access, but you can't keep entertaining liars. And this man is a misogynist. He's been, you know, adjudicated, found guilty for a sexual assault. He's homophobic. He's racist. He represents the base aspects of this country that everybody wants that his supporters want us to go back to. And these media outlets who claim to have some form of credibility left within their system,
Starting point is 00:33:38 you know, we ain't talking about CBS, they got a real decision to make as to how much they want to continue to platform him because he knows that when he gets on there, he is only talking to his base. The folks who want this red meat, the folks who love this, he doesn't give a damn about the rest of us. He said this over and over and over again. So I applaud her with the pushback, but this is going to be who he's going to be. He is not going to change.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Real networks need to make a decision to if they're going to continue to. to platform something as verbally abusive, as misogynistic and hateful as what he just did again. What they also have to do, Derek, they have to have the guts to say, why do you keep lying? See, they don't even want to use that word. You gotta call it what it is. He is a liar.
Starting point is 00:34:25 That's right. Not only is he a liar, but this pattern of Roland has been the same from the very beginning. I mean, he has tried to shame April Ryan. He tried to insult Abby Phillips, Joy Ann Reed, and the list continues. So not only they need to call him a liar, but they also need to say, this president is undermining
Starting point is 00:34:53 the First Amendment. I mean, it's dangerous, Roland, for him to refer to journalists as the enemy of the people. You all, such as yourself, you are out there to uphold the First Amendment, to inform the public. And so when you have someone that's using
Starting point is 00:35:13 this bully pulpit to refer to those who are in your industry as enemy of the people and fake news and liars and crooked, somebody else is listening to that rolling and those individuals
Starting point is 00:35:28 may, you know, put your life and other journalists' lives at stake. And so we have to make sure that we're painting the right picture. And the picture is this, to Dr. Omicongu's point, this is a pattern and this is who he is. And we have to stop whitewashing the information when it comes to Donald Trump. He is a liar and he is not upholding the Constitution as he should be as the President of the United States. Well, he is really a despicable individual. what I'm telling you right now, if I was sitting across him, I would simply say, you're lying.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Right now, you're lying, and you continue to lie. You've got to call it what it is. They keep offering deference to him to the office of the president when he simply has not earned it, nor does he deserve it. So what you saw was a despicable display by Donald Trump, but that's who he is. And so he will always be. He is never going to change. And he should be called out every single time. And these media organizations have got to stop being scared to speak truth when he does it. All right, folks, let's talk about a case out of Iowa.
Starting point is 00:36:47 The Iowa Supreme Court rule, the University of Iowa, may not repurpose a private scholarship that a donor specified should go to black students majoring in physical sciences, especially chemistry. The university where black students make up just 3% of the enrollment, brought a petition in district court requesting permission to distribute Dr. Totten's gift differently than he had specified. They wanted to give a scholarship to first-generation students. University argued that because the Supreme Court's affirmative action decision, it should be able to repurpose private donations such as that of Dr. Totten. However, that would conflict with the wishes of the donor, who has since deceased, which is expressed in his will.
Starting point is 00:37:29 1997, Commissioner and Civil Rights Pioneer Ezra Totten established the scholarship in keeping with his life's work. In the 1930s, he was part of litigation to allow black students to intergraduate programs at the University of Tennessee, and he strove his whole life to improve access to the sciences for black students. David Walker's Coast Council for the NWACP of Iowa, Nebraska, joins us now from Des Moines, Iowa, glad to have you here, David. Let's talk about this here. Because, I mean, my goodness, how can you just decide to say, all right, well, because the Supreme Court decision to do affirmative action, which applied to admissions. The Supreme Court's decision, I don't understand what the universities are all doing.
Starting point is 00:38:11 The Supreme Court's decision did not apply to scholarships. It only applied to admissions. It is, too, that there are a number of decisions that have been holding the Supreme Court's decision. in the Harvard and North Carolina cases applicable to scholarship assistance as well. We recognize that it, well, it might not be unlawful. An IHard Radio experience. You end up how with weekend gold tickets to Lassau, Montreal.
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Starting point is 00:42:37 And so we invoked a really centuries-old, timeless and statutorily authorized procedure to have the court consider the issue and not the University of Iowa itself. The charity itself should not be able to determine. exclusively how the how the gift shall be administered. First of all, how large is this endowment? The endowment initially was $35,000, somewhat more. And over time it has grown to $58,000. The significance of that is that when it becomes unlawful or impracticable
Starting point is 00:43:25 or impossible to administer the gift as Dr. Tottenham, intended and should then go to a trial court looking at the will, looking at the gift instrument, and examining all relevant evidence to determine the purpose that would most nearly approximate what the donor, Dr. Totten, would have intended, would have been wanted. What was his probable, what would his probable intention have been? goes to the court, not to university. And you say it goes to the court, and that's based upon what? And there is a statute, Roland, called the Uniform Prudent Management of Institutional Funds Act.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Every state, it's a uniform act. I believe every state in the union has adopted. And it says, you know, when it becomes to. impossible or impracticable or unlawful to administer an endowed fund as it was intended by the donor, Ezra Totten, the trial court on the basis of the gift instrument, the will, Dr. Totten's will, in all relevant evidence, and my colleague at the ACLU and I put together a tremendous amount of evidence. about what his intention would have been.
Starting point is 00:45:03 It's for the court to consider what most nearly possible would reflect and fulfill the donors, Dr. Totten's purposes. In his case, Roland, he wanted to give 40% of his estate to his beneficiaries. Two of those beneficiaries were the University of Westons. the University of Wisconsin and the University of Iowa, and for both of those, he said for a black student majoring in the physical sciences, preferably chemistry, which was his field. The other three, White Rock Baptist Church, a long time, age old, Baptist Church in Durham, North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:45:55 North Carolina Central University and Knoxville University, both historically black colleges and university. And for those three, there was no racial restriction. And the truth is, under the law today, there can't legally be a racial restriction under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act and under the Equal Protection Clause as interpreted by the court there can't be. But for those three, there's no racial restriction. And this is a person whose whole life was involved in supporting communities of which he'd been apart. And so we were arguing that and the court made very important findings in this respect that the trial court ought
Starting point is 00:46:48 to be able to consider transferring that endowment, $58,000. to one or equally among those other three schools, free of the racial restriction, to support the communities there, the communities to which he wanted to give back and in the course of his life, he spent so much time giving back. I want you to speak to this here,
Starting point is 00:47:17 because the same thing happened. University, I think the University of Texas, there was a Hispanic graduate who I think was a school of pharmacy, and he wanted his endowment to go to Latino students, and the university said that that was now illegal. So is the issue if the university is making the decision? So let's just let's say he has, let's say this,
Starting point is 00:47:43 someone has a nonprofit, or let's say someone has provided the money to another organization. Can that individual say, let's just say I'm a graduate of Texas. A&M. If I say I want to give out two scholarships a year to black students who are admitted to Texas A&M based upon even the Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action in college admissions, is that allowed? Well, it may not be. The Texas A&M is a state institution. So the 14th Amendment would apply the students for fair admission versus Harvard and the University of North Carolina would Yeah, no, no, but here's what I mean, here's what I mean, David, David, David, here's what I mean. I'm not giving the money to the school. I'm saying if the students are already admitted and I decided I wanted to
Starting point is 00:48:45 give two black students a year a scholarship, is that allowed? Because what's happening is different individuals who've established groups of affinity groups, African Americans, Latinos, we've seen this happen in Auburn University, other places as well. So we have existing scholarships that have been created for this purpose that now are in jeopardy. So the question then becomes, okay, how do we, if we're still trying to emphasize and want to provide economic resources to expand diversity at these institutions, then if the former student association, if the Alumni Association, if the school itself can't do this, then can an external group still do this, provided that they're the ones providing the scholarship and not the institution?
Starting point is 00:49:41 I believe that you'd be able to give the money to those two individuals who made it aware that they'd been admitted to Texas A&M and were African-American students and you chose to give your money to them, that would be perfectly fine. Here's what was happening in the Iowa case. The University of Iowa was trying to repurpose the gift from African-American students to first-generation students. Let me give some background on that because nationally there are twice as many first-generation. students as there are African-American students. And as the University of Iowa, the difference is even greater. Three or four percent of University of Iowa is African-American,
Starting point is 00:50:31 and several times that is first-generation students. But here's what's also true. This is a question under the law for the court to know, to decide. And if you look at Ezra Totten's life, everything he did, you know, from beginning as a kid in Sedalia, North Carolina, working with his father and his siblings, helped out other people in the community, people in farm, people in small business. He went to a segregated school in Sedalia. And as he obtained his master's in his doctorate and became chair, at North Carolina Central University. He worked on behalf of all of their students. North Carolina Central University is not racially restricted. You know, it's got probably about 20%
Starting point is 00:51:32 non-African American, I think 11 or 12%, white, 11 or 12%, Hispanic, 2% to 3%, you know, others, Asian Native American and the like. And what the court, importantly in the Iowa case said to the University of Iowa and to the Attorney General, you have to appoint somebody who is going to represent Ezra Totten's intent because the law requires that we as best as possible approximate, you know, fulfill his probable intention, his charitable purposes in light of the way.
Starting point is 00:52:17 will in light of what his attorney communicated in light of all the evidence about his life. And it is clear that the University of Iowa had nobody representing Ezra Totten's individual intentions. And here's what the court also said is, for God's sakes, if you're going to look at Ezra Totten's probable intention, his charitable purposes, you have to look at the will. And the University of Iowa never introduced Ezra Totten's will into the trial court when it sought modification or repurposing to third, first generation students. And the court said that that was an error. Now here is an important point. The law in the act that I mentioned, you know, authorizes a modification. And the modification may include transfer of the funds to another institution. And important points here, he named three other institutions with rich, historic, black communities that contained no prohibited racial restriction to which that endowment might be transferred.
Starting point is 00:53:47 free of a challengeable racial restriction. And so that will be something for the trial court on remand. Sometimes, Roland, in a bequest, as in this case, there are explicit and implicit purposes. And one of the purposes might, in fact, not be enforceable. here at a university's use of race explicitly in the award of scholarship. In that case, what the law says is disregard the lesser purpose. What was the larger purpose?
Starting point is 00:54:35 The larger purpose was somebody like you wanting to give back to the community of which you've been apart, which has supported you in your upbringing and in your family, in hard times or whatever. And to enable that gift to be made to fulfill the larger purposes, which the ACLU and the NDACP, which I was a co-counsel with Rita Betisoss, a terrific legal director for the ACLU of Iowa. You know, in that case, transferring the money to one of the historically black recipients of his scholarship would fulfill his larger purposes to support that university,
Starting point is 00:55:20 you know, that, that, that charitable purpose that he he wanted to fulfill. Giving it to third, first generation students would not. For example, yeah, you could have a an accomplished, uh, uh, hardworking, uh, financially in need African-American student, one or both of whose parents had gone to college but had passed away, something terrible had happened, they were no longer in the picture. He would not qualify for Esra Totten scholarship. That seems wrong, especially given the numbers and the dilutive effect that would be evident in this case given the number, twice as many first-generation students, first-generation
Starting point is 00:56:13 students nationally as African-American students many times that at the University of Iowa. But I think that- Well, bottom line here, David, bottom line here, David, is real simple. If someone is given money for us for a purpose, you just don't decide to take the money, even though you may not deem that to be a hell of a lot of money. And the reality is I get first generation, but the reality is there are a lot of African-American students who are first generation to go to college.
Starting point is 00:56:47 They are first time of their family. And the reality is we still need to have these scholarships providing opportunities for these individuals. And they should not be usurped. And I really hope and pray that individuals as well as alumni associations and others really rethink, you know, providing their money to these state institutions in light of these folks. And again, I believe.
Starting point is 00:57:13 what they are doing is they are there's an overreach when it comes to this decision you have republicans in congress like senator tom cotton sending letters to law firms saying oh your apprenticeship programs your internship programs are now in violation because the supreme court ruling i'm like no they're not that's nonsense and so i'll certainly hope uh folks uh fight back in these cases david uh we appreciate there's got to be a way for black people there's got to be a way for black people to give back to their communities without somebody saying it's unconstitutional or unlawful. Absolutely. David Walker, we should appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you very much, Rowan.
Starting point is 00:57:57 We're going to bring in Omikongo and Derek. Derek, I'll start with you. And he's right. I mean, that has to take place. We can't just continue to sit here and act as if the need is not there. And what we are seeing, we are seeing an extreme court doing the bidding of right-wingers denying opportunities. And frankly, what they're saying is they're saying that white people in this country have more rights than African-Americans and others. And we see this, we see this in the back of the case. We see this. We see this. We see this in the gerrymandering cases as well. I mean, you know, this court has been shameful and despicable. rolling i appreciate you covering this this case because it's truly exposing um the higher education
Starting point is 00:58:48 landscape i mean think about it you got college administrators right now who are more afraid uh on what this administration is going to do what the do joj is going to do or heck better yet what state legislators are doing in the various states against the higher education they're rewriting laws rolling um to make it more challenging for black students to be financially solvent in college as they matriculate through these colleges and universities. And they're also aiming specifically rolling at HBCUs. And so this is incredulous.
Starting point is 00:59:29 You know, it's sad that we are here in 2006. You and I and Dr. Omecongo, we should be able to create a scholarship. to be able to give back, to be able to, you know, pay it forward. But when you have someone that's having the Supreme Court and the DOJ, some of the largest branches of government dismantling this effort to give back, it's just shameful. It's just shameful. Well, we see what is going on here, Omé Congo, and I'm telling you right now,
Starting point is 01:00:11 A lot of individuals who have provided money to institutions are having to deal with this very issue. And these institutions are saying, hey, because of this ruling, we can't administer this endowment can't administer this scholarship. And my whole deal is, yo, take it back and say, hey, we're going to, we're going to, you know, awarded ourselves. That's something. My daughter just graduated high school, Val-Victorian and wants to do chemistry in college.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And we're seeing, and I have another daughter who's a rising junior in college, you know, money drying up in different places, scholarships like this that were available are no longer available. And this is, and going back to what you said in the beginning of your interview with Mr. Walker, it's like that Supreme Court decision was about admissions, but it's like they're taking it and applying it to every other aspect because this is what these schools, some of these schools and some of these leaders have always wanted to do. And they're jumping at every opportunity to deny black people and non-white folks in general, the opportunity to get a better education.
Starting point is 01:01:14 What happened to private business? What happened to, you know, respecting enterprise and all of this other type of stuff? This is a man's private money, private endowment. And they're not doing this for, I'm sure, adornments that are going to students who are probably going to be white because of their background or region that they're going to come from. But we have to get on the good foot about this
Starting point is 01:01:33 because he also mentioned this happening in another place with a Latino graduate. This is absolutely no way this is not happening across the country. And those who are interested in being benefactors and helping people go to school, we are absolutely going to have to look at other ways to make sure our young people get the money that they need, whether it's through maybe engineering, you know, National Association for Black Engineers or other organizations like that. We have to be more strategic because they're being more strategic in dismantling the ways we're able to get finances for our education. Yeah. I mean, it is happening over and over and over again. All right, folks, going to a break.
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Starting point is 01:04:49 A decade ago, the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil. So we met with a lot of larger farmers, went from Bahia to Tokatines to Montagroso. And he brought a team of executives. They were going to help the country get in on a gold rush. Carbon and its derivatives are going to be really the next great commodity that the globe's going to trade. But back home and I. Iowa trouble was brewing. If you live in Iowa, your land, your water, and your voice could all be at risk thanks
Starting point is 01:05:19 to a man named Bruce Rastetter. Now, people are questioning if his climate solutions have anything to do with climate at all. You got to give Bruce and the guy's credit. They're Republican kids. They don't give a shit about it. It's now. On this season of drilled, Carbon Cowboys, the story of how the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil and what it tells us about the limit.
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Starting point is 01:08:03 Folks, these are the kind of services that we need for our audience here at Roland Martin Unfiltred and the Black Star Network. So call chapter right now, 724-264-8-281. I'm Mark Morial, President, CEO of the National Urban League, and I'm watching a Black Star Network. Folks, this week, the House is set to take up a $69.5 billion budget reconciliation package to fund immigration and customs enforcement as well as Border Patrol through through 20229. It has already passed the Senate on Friday.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Republicans will need near unanimous support on the measure, which is not expected to get any Democratic votes at a news conference today. Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries made it clear which way he was voting and why. From the very beginning of this Congress, House Democrats have made clear that the cost of living in the United States of America is far too high, and that Donald Trump promised to lower costs on day one. But costs having gone down in the United States of America, costs have gone up. Grocery prices are too high. Housing costs are too high. Healthcare costs are too high. Utility bills are too high.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Gas prices are out of control. America is far too expensive. And Donald Trump hasn't made the situation better. he's made the situation worse. The Trump tariffs have increased costs on everyday Americans by thousands of dollars per year. The Republican assault on the health care of the American people has caused health insurance costs to skyrocket. And at the same period of time, Donald Trump's reckless and costly war of choice in Iran has resulted. in gas prices through the roof.
Starting point is 01:10:25 America's far too expensive. There are far too many people in this country who are working hard. They're playing by the rules, but they're unable to thrive and they can barely survive. And that's not acceptable in the United States of America.
Starting point is 01:10:41 So House Democrats are going to continue to fight to drive down the high cost of living and push back against the business. And push back against the United States of America. Republican efforts to make life more expensive. We believe that taxpayer dollars should be used to make life more affordable for the American people, not give ICE another $70 billion blank check so they can unleash brutality on American citizens and violently target law-abiding immigrant communities.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Democrats will be a hard no on the reckless Republican budget reconciliation bill this week. All right. Listen, on the Congo, you know, Democrats shouldn't give any support to what Republicans are doing. What we are seeing are individuals who are allowing an absolutely corrupt individual occupy the Oval Office. these people still did not want reforms when it comes to ICE and they want them to operate with impunity. Yeah, he didn't need the hat though, but that's okay. We'll keep it moving. Look, I think that when you look at what ICE is doing. You know, he's going to support, you know he's going to support his Knicks.
Starting point is 01:12:12 So even though I want the Spurs to win tonight, but go ahead. No doubt. No, I'm with you on that. You know, look, ice, how much more do they need? First of all, I mean, even during the last shutdown, they were still getting money that was appropriated. These guys, they're so wealthy right now, like they're buying airplanes with like bars, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:34 on the planes. How much more money do they need? And I'll be honest, Roland, like, I appreciate what Jeffries is saying, but I'm not fully convinced that, you know, a one or two Democrats. I mean, when he leans in hard, Democrats tend to follow him and whatnot, but I just, I wouldn't be surprised
Starting point is 01:12:49 of some broke, but really at the end of the day, this is a vote that's going to just keep all Republicans on record as we go on to the midterms. Nothing has happened that has made ICE more popular since Trump got in, since Holman was doing his thing, since Mark Wayne Mullen took over. Nothing's changed. Everybody thought, well, since Chrissy Noon was going to leave that people are going to not care about ICE anymore.
Starting point is 01:13:10 So my thing is let them vote, you know, my hope is that some Republicans will develop enough of a conscious because, you know, now that we're past Memorial Day and so many of these primaries are done, you know, Republicans can start to do a little bit more to have a bit of a spine going to the midterms. So I'm hoping that that will happen. Maybe those still shave off one or two or three Republicans in this particular bill right now. But at the end of the day, Trump's number one priority is his racism and his hate. And ICE is the organization that he's using to do it to practice all of it, him and Stephen Miller.
Starting point is 01:13:42 And so I'm hoping that this fails. But even if it fails, he's not going to stop because this is his number one way to demonstrate his racism. David? Derek. You know, Roland, I had to unpackage the package, right? Because I want to make sure your listening audience understand what this 70 billion that would they want to do with it. 30.7 billion, Roland, they want to hire 20,000 unqualified high school dropout, paying them
Starting point is 01:14:13 $100,000, $50,000 sign-on bonus. And if they got college, $60,000 forgiveness. They're also including this 30.7 personnel and operation. Then they have 46.5 billion rolling to construct a new border wall that they've been talking about for years. And then five billion rolling get this to build more detention centers in the United States, across the United States. And then last of not least, rolling, one billion dollars to finish the boat. So it's not just $70 billion for ICE and the border and facilities. It's the border is to deal with the ballroom too.
Starting point is 01:15:03 So when conservatives, like Republicans say they're fiscally conservative, I call that BS. And every Democrat up there in Washington, D.C. should be calling out BS when you have snap, you have children that that are on SNAP benefits. Here in Georgia, we got 644,000 children that needs their SNAP benefits and the federal government is saying, no, we can't afford that. That's a problem.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Oh, absolutely. All right, folks. Hold on a second. We come back. Marshall Project did a breakdown. It's 10-year period. Nearly 50 people dying by suicide. What is going on in Mississippi prisons.
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Starting point is 01:17:45 That's according to a new joint investigative report by the Marshall Project Mississippi Today and the Clarion Ledger. The investigation, which looked into a decade of Mississippi prison records, included several disturbing findings, including that nearly 75% of all suicides inside Mississippi prisons occurred in so-called restricted housing units, commonly known as solitary confinement, where well-being checks are supposed to be conducted more often. Many of those cases involved men and women with histories of mental health struggles and suicide attempts that were known to prison officials before their deaths. Joining us now is one of the reporters behind the piece, Daja Henry, staff writer for the Marshall Project. Dajie, glad to have you here. So let's talk about this here. I mean, we've had previous reporting on what's going on in Mississippi prisons.
Starting point is 01:18:37 In fact, when Christian Clark led the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, they were investigating Mississippi prisons. These prisons have been brutal for decades. And what the hell does Governor Tate Reeves and others say about what's happening in that state? Dajan, thank you for having me. But it's prison deaths are not very high priority in the state. There has, along with this investigation, we also investigated homicides
Starting point is 01:19:12 within the prisons, and that led to the commissioner and Burrell Kane saying that they would investigate these homicides more. There's been some attempted legislation to increase oversight over or create oversight to look into prison deaths, but that did not gain the momentum that it needed to pass. So it's still pretty not high on the priority list here. So you've got state officials, no big deal. It's not like you've got a Department of Justice that's actually going to look into it. to it. Donald Trump doesn't give a damn. And so are folks just throwing up their hands
Starting point is 01:19:54 and saying there's nothing they can do? I think with sustained reporting such as the work that we're doing here with the Marshall Project, you know, getting this in front of legislators and people who can make these decisions, hopefully people are starting to continue looking at this. But there hasn't been any meaningful reform as of yet. And so who is leading this? Is Mississippi Black Caucus? You know, who's actually showing on a political level that they actually care about this issue?
Starting point is 01:20:40 This past legislative session, there was a representative, Becky Curry. She's a Republican legislator here and chairs the House Corrections Committee. and she introduced this legislation that would create oversight into prisons, along with the suicides. I mentioned before, homicides have been a problem here in the prisons. And this, after seeing these alarming findings, of course, she kind of led that charge to try and get some oversight and get people looking into the prison deaths. Questions for my panel, Derek, U.S. State Representative. This is something that state officials should care about. Just because folks are in prison doesn't mean they're no longer humans.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I absolutely agree with you, Roland. I mean, we got our fair share of challenges here in Georgia. And my question, you know, when you think about 75% of Mississippi deaths by way of suicide, by those who have spent, get this, 550, 15 days in solitary confinement in Mississippi. 515 days, is there something that we can call upon a call of action? You know, Georgia is the largest black caucus in the United States, but what can we do to help Mississippi in this effort? Because if we help Mississippi, we'll help Georgia too, because we got the same challenges.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Right. You know, I'm not in the place to speak from an advocacy. advocacy standpoint, but just thinking about that, like the numbers you mentioned, there has been legislation across the country introduced to limit solitary confinement. So looking at what other states have done. But there is, as you mentioned, people, this was for that number that you mentioned was from a Department of Justice investigation into parchment, one of the prisons here, that people in restrictive housing spent an average of 515 days there.
Starting point is 01:22:55 The National Commission on Correctional Health Care says that solitary confinement should never exceed more than 15 days. So you have such a huge, like that huge difference in what should happen or what is, like what's the standard and what is not happening. And so I think one looking at continuing to place the spotlight on this and also to look at what other places have done. There have been some, not only in the legislative limiting solitary confinement, some places have also introduced things that would create oversight to review prison deaths. And so, like having someone who is looking into why people are dying.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Oh, Mekongo. Thank you so much for your incredible work and research. I'm thinking about the law enforcement idea of, you know, suicide by cop when, you know, somebody raises a gun to the police, and they know that they're going to get shot because they've done so. Do you find situations like that happening, given this solitary confinement? You're saying it's not supposed to see more than 15 days. You and Representative Johnson is talking about is over 500 days. It's like you can almost predict the natural result of what would happen by keeping somebody like that. So isn't that kind of another type of suicide by prison guard type of mindset here?
Starting point is 01:24:22 I mean, interestingly enough, I would say yes and no. So one of the things that we find more so more commonly is that there is a lack of presence from corrections officers in solitary confinement. And so you see that like in the Mississippi Department of Corrections policy, people who are in restrictive housing should be checked on more frequently than people in the general population. But because of things like understaffing in the prisons, they are like less than the law. largely unsupervised and sometimes may even not be checked on less.
Starting point is 01:24:55 So we have even in some cases, some people who have died by suicide, they weren't found for hours. Rigamortis has set in by the time that their bodies were found. And so, you know, it's kind of opposite on that aspect, but yes, these are torturous conditions that people are in, that there is a large body of research saying this is harmful and heightens the risk of suicide, worsens mental health conditions. And, you know, when you keep people under these conditions like what is expected to happen. Thank you. All right then.
Starting point is 01:25:31 They did you tell people where they can actually check out the reporting? Yes, this investigation can be found at the Marshall Project.org and Mississippi Today.org. All right then. We shall appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Thank you. All right, folks. Go to a break.
Starting point is 01:25:53 We come back. Black Star Network headlines are Brittany. noble and will also share with you what's happening in the L.A. May oral race and of course here from Warwick Dunn. We're talking about what his foundation and their celebrity golf class again what the money is going to be raised for. You're watching Roller Martin on filtered right here on the Black Star Network. All right folks, let me tell you about chapter. Now, if you're in Medicare or about to be, the system is not set up to work for you. Too much fine print too many plans and too many people making money off of your confusion.
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Starting point is 01:28:09 Early Saturday morning, Kansas City police responded to the 7900 block of Trost Avenue after reports of gunfire. Officers arrived around 4 a.m. and found a large crowd dispersing from the area. Authorities say nine adults were injured but suffered non-life-threatening injuries and are as expected to survive. However, bullets reportedly struck nearby homes. And just hours later in Toledo, gunfire broke out. near the annual Old West End Festival. 12 people between the ages of 14 and 61 were injured. Police believe that two people may have been firing at each other
Starting point is 01:28:45 in the crowd after a fight broke out. All victims are reportedly in stable care. The Toledo shooting forced the organizers to cancel the festival's final day. In both cases, authorities say the investigations remain active and no suspects have been taken into custody. A black man from North Carolina. has been released after spending more than 50 days in jail for being wrongly identified as a suspect in the crime that occurred in Florida.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Jaliel Richardson was charged with vehicle theft in connection with an incident in Jacksonville in April of 2025. A sheriff's deputy used AI technology to identify Richardson as an 85% match to a person captured in surveillance footage from a nearby public store. Will the state attorney's office stand that the identification along with two, eyewitness accounts was sufficient to establish probable cause for Richardson's arrest. Prosecutors later dropped the case when evidence revealed that he was, in fact, hundreds of miles away in North Carolina at his job at the time of the crime. Richardson has described his experience as racial profiling, stating that the arrest cost him his job, his home, and custody of...
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Starting point is 01:30:26 Every day you listen is another chance to win A decade ago, the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil. So we met with a lot of larger farmers, went from Bahia to Tokatines to Madagroso. And he brought a team of executives. They were going to help the country get in on a gold rush. Carbon and its derivatives are going to be really the next great commodity
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Starting point is 01:34:09 wrongfully arrested due to facial recognition misidentification. A lawsuit is currently attempting to block a UFC fight night event scheduled to take place at the White House. The lawsuit was filed by two Virginia residents who argue that the event is unlawful under national park regulations. They all, also contend that Trump stands to gain financially from the event because of his ownership stake in the UFC's parent company. Despite the legal challenge, the White House intends to proceed with the event on June 14th and has labeled the lawsuit as baseless and dilatory. A flesh-eating parasite that has been eradicated over 40 years ago has reappeared in cattle in Texas. On June 3rd, the Agriculture Department announced the detection of the New World Screw Worm in a calf in the
Starting point is 01:34:57 the state with a second case confirmed just two days later. The parasite targets warm-blooded animals by laying its eggs in the open wounds. Once the larvae hatch, they consume living tissue and can be fatal if not treated promptly. The screw worm was successfully eradicated in 1982 through the release of millions of sterile flies, which prevented the species from reproducing. In response to this resurgence, federal officials are once again employing the same strategy to curb the parasite spread. The USDA is investing $750 million in a new facility in Texas that will produce hundreds of millions of feral flies each week. Experts cautioned that a widespread outbreak could lead to nearly $2 billion in annual losses for Texas livestock producers due to animal losses, treatment costs, and additional labor.
Starting point is 01:35:51 A jury awards $13 million to the family of a Star Trek star and a wrongful. death lawsuit. Nichelle Nichols was widely recognized for her role as Lieutenant Aurora. She became a trailblazer as the first black woman to play a lead role on TV. But after her death in 2022, her family filed the lawsuit against the New Mexico hospital, where she'd been admitted for shortness of breath and other symptoms consistent with acute heart failure. Now according to the family's lawsuit, Nichols should have been given a full cardiac examination, but instead, The 89-year-old was sent to the observation unit and then discharged to an assistant living home where she died seven hours later. Nicholsson has said that he filed the lawsuit in part to shed light on the medical mistreatment because if it could happen to a celebrity like his mom, it could happen to anyone.
Starting point is 01:36:46 And the basketball world is mourning the loss of Stacey King. The former Chicago Bulls' big man and longtime broadcaster died over the weekend at the age of 59. King spent eight seasons in the league after being selected six overall in the 1989 NBA draft by the Bulls. He quickly became part of one of basketball's greatest dynasties, helping the Bulls capture three straight NBA championships alongside Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen during the franchise's legendary early 90s run. After his time in Chicago, King went on to play for several NBA teams, including the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Boston Celtics. Following his playing days, he became a fan-favorid broadcaster, known for his energetic calls, memorable catchphrases, and larger than life personality behind the microphone.
Starting point is 01:37:38 The Chicago Bulls announced King's passing on Sunday, but did not provide a cause of death. King will certainly be missed. Folks, be sure to catch the breakdown of Brittany Noble every day, noon Eastern, right here on the Black Star Network. Again, the breakdown of Britain Noble, every day noon Eastern on the Black Star Network. Let's talk about the Los Angeles mayor race, and man, the right-wing MAGA people are out of their mind because they're poor, grossly unqualified and uneducated and really stupid candidate, Spencer Pratt, is now in third place and he's not going to be in the runoff.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Incumbent Mayor Karen Bass has 34.7% of the votes so far as she has 250,8701 votes. She is on the city council. She has 27.1%, 196,198 votes. She's a 3,000 vote lead against former reality participant Spencer Pratt. He has 26.7%. And so the right-wing people have been going crazy on social. This Donald Trump yelling the same thing saying, oh, my God, the election was rigged. Why do they take so long counting ballots in California?
Starting point is 01:38:57 Well, first of all, the way everything is. It's not about, you know, oh, you get early voting. People like Van Lathen, he posted, he dropped his ballot in the mail on Tuesday. Well, if you, if the law allows for you to have your ballot postmarked by Election Day, it kind of takes time for the ballots to come in and for the ballots to be counted. Okay? That's not a big deal. It's a no-brainer. The other thing, Derek, the people to understand is that, and this is the problem with a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:39:30 They assume that on election night, all ballots have been counted. That's not true. I mean, so the problem is you have overseas ballots. Again, if you have a regulation that said postmarked by a certain date, and then you have that. And so although an election might be called, although somebody might concede, it doesn't mean all of the ballots have actually been counted. You're exactly right, Roland.
Starting point is 01:40:02 I mean, listen, I spent 22 years in the United States Navy. I was overseas 10,000 miles away nine times out of ten, I completed an absentee ballot. And it'll tell you, as long as you have it postmarked by such a date,
Starting point is 01:40:18 it's going to be counted. And then every state is different, but for the most part, there's this thing called certification. And that certification process starts after the election date, Rowland, seven to ten days after the election date,
Starting point is 01:40:36 there's going to be a certification process. That's the actual number. So it's not just the number on Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. You have to look at the totality of the system. And then last but not least, let's just call it what it is, Roland. They're losing their minds because
Starting point is 01:40:54 the person that's occupied in the Oval Office continues to take. The 2020 election was he won and they cheated him. And so now you're going to have this, this poison in our election process thinking that, oh, if the number said this on Tuesday and now it's a different number on Wednesday, somebody cheated. And that's not the case. We're going to be going back to a special session on dealing with gerrymandering and the election process because they want to turn our ballots to paper. ballots, rolling. So we're going to be going back to the special session on June 17th. And what do you think if the Republicans make this happen? If we go back to paper ballots,
Starting point is 01:41:40 we won't know until 10 days later. And so this is the kind of problem that we're dealing with. We're going to have these kind of MAGA individuals who are going to continue to say, well, if the number was X, that one on that day, and now it's why on this day, somebody cheated and that's not the case. Well, and that's all you see. I mean, these people are just, I mean, they want to whine and complain about everything Omicongo.
Starting point is 01:42:09 And this is just who they are. And this is just the latest thing that gets them all hot and bothered. Yeah, and their logic doesn't even make sense. I mean, if there was going to be shady things going on of this election, you would think that they would have declared victory immediately on the
Starting point is 01:42:26 night of. So that's number one, you know, for Bass. Number two, I believe Mayor Bass would probably prefer to run against Pratt versus Ramon as it relates to running in Los Angeles. So that's another thing. I mean, the California voting system is just what it is. It takes forever. I mean, at one point, Vermont thought that she had lost to Spencer Pratt and now she's back in the lead. So, yeah, they could make the system easier or they can make the system better or faster.
Starting point is 01:42:55 But look, at the end of the day, they have a system in place and you'd rather get stuff right than rushed. And we talked about this last week. The fact that the only qualification they had for this guy was former reality star who sold like crystals or whatever, and that's the competition they're putting up against Mayor Bass. They should be ashamed of themselves. But, of course, they have no shame, and all they have is grievance. And it's great to see that another candidate who tried to run on grievance
Starting point is 01:43:19 was not able to be successful. And he should have never got the amount of votes that he got in the first place, but here we are. And really, at the end of the day, Republicans, they need to just move on. The last thing I will say is that they say, oh, these new batches of votes keep coming in and Spencer doesn't have any votes. He's getting zero votes. That's an absolute lie.
Starting point is 01:43:38 He's getting votes just not enough to be able to push forward. So this has been dismantled on several different levels. Republicans need to accept it. But part of their stick is the grievance because that's the point at the end of the day. Oh, absolutely. All right, y'all. I've got to go to a break. We come back.
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Starting point is 01:45:54 All right, folks, let me tell you about Chapter. Now, if you're in Medicare or about to be, the system is not set up to work for you. Too much fine print, too many plans, and too many people are making money off of your confusion. And look, we're used to this. We're no strangers to systems that don't have our best interests at heart. But we don't have to accept it when it comes to Medicare. That's why I'm telling you about Chapter. Their advisors are independent and honest.
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Starting point is 01:47:23 I want to encourage you to watch Roland Martin Unfiltered. You know, folks, I really do hate listening to mainstream national media. Some called them mainstream. And the reason I hated it, because it is so driven by a New York, D.C. bias. So, so perfect example. For the past year, how many times have you? you heard them say, Zoran Mamdani,
Starting point is 01:48:09 he's the future of the Democratic Party. Then you go, I'm sorry, but how? Because, okay, he's in about democratic socialist. I get it. But this is what I understand. I understand it because New York City
Starting point is 01:48:30 is the media capital of the world. And so therefore, the producers, the executives, the host, and all of these people, if you're in New York and D.C., you drive the conversation. I'm here in Atlanta. CNN used to be headquartered here in Atlanta. And I'll say this here. CNN was a lot different when it was headquartered in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:48:53 And that all changed when Jeff Zucker took over. And that was a huge mistake because he basically shut down CNN in Atlanta, move everyone to New York. And when you do that, you then begin to change what matters, the issues that are covered. And so this is what I, and let me real clear, this is not any hate or shade on Zoran Mamdani. But you notice they never, ever say Andre Dickens, the mayor of Atlanta, Justin Bibb, the mayor of Cleveland. You don't hear them say by Lyle is the mayor of Charlotte, even though she's now stepping down. You don't hear them say Randall Woodfin, mayor of Birmingham.
Starting point is 01:49:42 I mean, I can go on and on and on. And so it's just dumb to me when I listen to that analysis as if there are black mayors that were not reelected all across the country, many of them in landslides. So I just need y'all to understand. I need you to pay attention to the framing. Because when they classify
Starting point is 01:50:11 Mamdani as, quote, the future of the Democratic Party, they act as if these other highly successful mayors don't exist. And that to me is idiotic.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Because, oh, I don't know. can y'all show me the last New York mayor who actually went on to higher office? In fact, if I had to sit here and if I had to see Siri, who was the last New York City mayor to become governor? Let's see here. Oh, the last mayor of New York City to become governor was John T. Hoffman in a 1869. Siri, who was the last New York City mayor to become president? Let's see.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Oh, I'm sorry. No mayor of New York City has ever gone on to become president of the United States. Do you all see what I'm saying here? Do you now understand when these people are telling you, oh, so and so is the future of the party they are projecting some BS and then they all run along with it and so then political then axios then notice then um wall street journal and the new york post and see they all run with this story and it's bullshit it's not based upon reality but what they want to do is they want to create They want to frame the narrative and control the narrative.
Starting point is 01:52:22 And that to me is nonsensical. It gets on my nerves. And I just think it's unbelievably stupid. Let me go to my panel. Obecong, I want to start with you. I mean, it really does get on my nerves when producers and hosts. And they just don't leave those two places and they see the entire world. And I'm going to tell you, I don't need to people understand.
Starting point is 01:52:49 In those newsrooms, I'm telling you right now, in these cable news and broadcast newsrooms, the producers, the executives, they do not wake up in the morning and say, okay, I'm going to read the Detroit Free News, Detroit News, of Detroit Free Press. I'm going to read The Shaw of Observer. I'm going to read the New Orleans Times Pick of You. I'm going to read Mississippi today. I'm going to read the paper in Memphis. They don't do any of that. They're not getting a national view of what's happening. In fact, I remember, Omey Congo, Obama gets elected 2009. We have a significant financial crisis. And I was in Columbus, Ohio, giving a speech.
Starting point is 01:53:40 I think it was a MLK or Black History Month. and they were talking about canceling their rookie cadet class because they didn't have the funds. And so when the stimulus package was passed under Obama Biden, money in there restored that cadet class. But I remember before that got passed, I remember going back to CNN and telling Campbell Brown and her team about that. And I was like, yo, y'all really need to get Michael Coleman, the mayor of Columbus, on the show to talk about the impact of this economy on his budget. They look at me like I was crazy. Now, I was like, how about y'all not talk everything out of D.C.? Well, what happens?
Starting point is 01:54:31 When the stimulus gets passed and they were through the class, all of a sudden it's like they're talking about, oh, well, the stimulus bill, this is one. things that paid for. I'm kind of like, you know, y'all could have been like four months ahead of the game of you. Listen to me. They don't, they don't lead. They think everything revolves around New York City and Washington, D.C., and it doesn't. And it's extremely frustrating. I'm right there with you. I knew when you came back from the break, I hope you aired it. You know, it's one of the segments you clip because people need to see this. The way that they build up Mondani. And again, like you said, it's not about any beef with him, but You know, Mamdani couldn't win in Texas for a Senate seat and
Starting point is 01:55:14 in Tala Rico couldn't win in New York, you know, most like that. I mean, the Democrats, you know, you get people who are right for the areas at the end. You know, we've had Mayor Brandon Scott, Baltimore. Look at what he's doing with education and crime reduction in Baltimore. Happy Pride Month, Toronto. Pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space, to celebrate your existence. IHeartRadio is proud to be an official sponsor of Pride Toronto Festival and we won't stop.
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Starting point is 01:56:05 So we met with a lot of larger farmers, went from Bahia to Tokatines to. It's a motto. And he brought a team of executives. They were going to help the country get in on a gold rush. Carbon and its derivatives are going to be really the next great commodity that the globe's going to trade. But back home in Iowa, trouble was brewing. If you live in Iowa, your land, your water, and your voice could all be at risk thanks to a man named Bruce Rastetter. Now people are questioning if his climate solutions have anything to do with climate at all.
Starting point is 01:56:37 You got to give Bruce and the guy's credit. They're Republican. They don't give a shit of money. On this season of drilled, Carbon Cowboys, the story of how the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil and what it tells us about the limits of technology and markets to solve the climate crisis. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Chuck from Stuff You Should Know,
Starting point is 01:57:02 and we're submitting our most sciencey episodes for your peer review with our new Stuff You Should Know doing science playlist. Out now. You want to know about Occam's razor? Simplest explanation is usually the right one? We got you covered. Wondered what chaos theory is ever since the first time you saw Jurassic Park. Well, come on down.
Starting point is 01:57:19 So distill a nice pot of tea, everybody, turn down the gas on your Bunsen burner, and slip into your most comfortable lab coat and listen to the stuff you should know doing science playlist on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us.
Starting point is 01:57:40 The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great, take over another country. From My Heart Podcasts, Saigon. Please allow me to introduce Joseph Sherman. You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? I should stop talking so much. I like hearing you talk. One city, a divided country, and the war that tore America apart. This is for Vietnam.
Starting point is 01:58:03 I've taken a hit from Japanese ground fire. Do you rate me? They're pouring Patrick. all over him. He's holding matches. I'm on a landmine. Or freeze on. Let's get out. Freedom. Come up. It, nah. Saigon, starring Kelly Marie Tran and Rob Benedict.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Sting, here's madness. The world should hear about this. There's a fire coming to this country, and it's going to burn out everything. Listen to Saigon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Most people out here think that taking care of one enough, other is important. And most people would step up for a neighbor going through a tough time. Most people around here help out friends and family when they need it. But the funny thing is, most of us won't look for help when we need it. Talk to someone if you're struggling with mental health because most
Starting point is 01:58:54 people out here really care. Find more information at loveyourmindtay.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org. Brought to you by the Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council. I had the mayor of Newport News last week as well. And so there are so many incredibly powerful stories that could be told about mayors across this country. I would add, in addition to you saying they're not reading the different newspapers, they're also not traveling to go and seeing these places. So how in the hell are they going to know in any way, shape, or form? And one of the things with Mamdani, I think it's also like a little bit of fools gold
Starting point is 01:59:27 in terms of the way they're building him up because you're dealing with somebody who can never run for president because he's a naturalized citizen. And so I feel like there's going on on that level as well on the back end. But you're absolutely right. There are incredibly powerful stories of black mayors across this country, some who are new, some who've been doing this for a while, who have incredible records that they can run on. But people are always about the person at a moment, the hero of the moment. And that right now, as relates to mayors, it's Mondani.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Right now, as late to Senate candidates, it's Tala Rico. And black folks continually get ignored for the incredible work that they're doing it. all of the levels where they have representation and leadership right now? Well, to that point, and let me be real clear, Derek. I have been very consistent with this. I think it is stupid when media outlets go, so-and-so is a rising star. No, you have to win.
Starting point is 02:00:27 So State Representative James Hilariko is not a rising star in the Democratic Party. because he hasn't won. Beto O'Rourke was not a rising star in the Democratic Party because he hadn't won. I remember when it was Huffington's Postal of Politico, they were touting rising star
Starting point is 02:00:49 Congressman Artur Davis. I'm like, why y'all call him a rising star? And then he voted against the Affordable Care Act. His ass got trounced running for governor. he started running for all sorts of offices and kept losing, kept losing, and I was ripping him left and right. But I just thought it was just dumb, this rising start. No, you need to win.
Starting point is 02:01:13 You need to win. Guess what? Congress won Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Okay, never met her. I thought it was going to meet him when we were in Montgomery, but she quickly left. And so, rising star, no, she's a member of she won. She's a member of Congress.
Starting point is 02:01:31 But the bottom line is, if she runs for the United States Senate, different ballgame she wins. If she runs the president, let's see what happens. I just can't stand how national media plays that game. And then they put so much emphasis and they begin to say, yes, a mom, Donnie is the future of the Democratic Party. as if, again, Dickens doesn't get reelected to a second term in Atlanta by a huge margin.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Bibb doesn't get reelected in Cleveland. Woodford doesn't get reelected. I mean, it just drives me crazy. And I just want, I need people to understand, now I remember people understand this year, when you watch this show, I'm telling y'all, without a doubt,
Starting point is 02:02:20 I don't, I can't watch those other networks. without a doubt, you are going to see far more diversity of mayors, council members, state reps, state senators, members of Congress on this show than any, any show on cable or broadcast television because, Derek, we're not just looking at New York City. in D.C. We're looking at Detroit, Memphis, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, looking at Charlotte, New Orleans. We're looking at Jackson, Mississippi, casting a wider net, because that's what we should be doing. You're exactly right, Roland, and let's face it, the media outlets are only reporting what the Democratic establishment, what they're allowing. The Democratic, establishment is behind this role
Starting point is 02:03:26 then let's not kid ourselves here since 1964. No, no, no, no, no they're not. No, they're not. No, they're not. You know who it is? I'm telling you right now. I was at scene in there for six years. The people who are deterring this are a small cabal of
Starting point is 02:03:43 largely white male executives who say we can only discuss two or three things a day. I'm telling you, I have been in the belly of of that beast. And I never understood why, I remember when I filled in for Camel Brown, I was like, why in the hell we talking about the same damn stories that Wolf was talking about, and they
Starting point is 02:04:06 were talking about at 3 o'clock, and they were talking about at noon? Is it possible that we could actually talk about some other stuff that might be of interest? And then when I tried to bring in non, you know, I remember we were going to discuss a Supreme Court ruling. And I want to have former Congressman Floyd Flake, leading a massive church in Jamaica, Queens, who was president of Wilberforce, and literally a white producer said, who's Floyd Flake?
Starting point is 02:04:46 And I went, you live in New York City. And you know who Floyd Flake is? They wanted, I forgot who they wanted. And I was like, Okay, if we're going to talk about education, talk to that guy. It was the dumbest thing. It was unbelievable how they would look at me like I was nuts when I was introducing people knowledgeable on the issues, but it was people they did not know.
Starting point is 02:05:18 That's my problem. This is driven. This is a mainstream media driven deal when they decide who is important and who isn't. So based on that, that point with all these billionaires who are now purchasing these media outlets and networks, Roland, I don't think it's going to get any better, right? You got these high-tech billionaires who are going to start putting in their selected individuals, and now you're going to have Fox network on steroids at CNN, MS Now, and all these other major outlets. The only reason why I was suggesting the approach I was making is that when Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader gets on that podium, he can say as the minority leader and say, this is, you know, Jasmine Crockett is our rising star, not Tuller Rico. She's a duly elected sitting congresswoman running for the United States Senate. she is our candidate.
Starting point is 02:06:34 So that's what I meant by we can push back as those of us who are elected can say who when we get on platforms. Oh, oh. I mean, that's why I was tuning in on election night on the Black Star Network, your program, because you give that unvarnished perspective on election night versus when these billionaires who's starting to take over these major networks,
Starting point is 02:07:01 rolling. If those individuals don't follow the script, they're going to find themselves you know, with their own program like Don Lemon and others who are starting to... So that's the point I was about to make. Yeah, I mean, listen, first of all,
Starting point is 02:07:17 an individual can decide who they want to endorse all of that. I get all of that. No, what I'm talking about is, again, how they cover. For instance, The last week, you have seen massive coverage of Graham Platner.
Starting point is 02:07:38 You have not seen the same coverage of Ken Paxton. You have it. And so all I'm saying is I just want the audience to be very careful when they say, this is the future of the Democratic Party. That's why I laugh. anytime I see these people and they say that, and again, this is no shade
Starting point is 02:08:07 against AOC when they say, I forgot what somebody was like, AOC and Bernie Sanders, they're running Democratic Party. I'm going, no, they're not. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:08:21 Can you show me how many bills of Bernie Sanders and AOC that have actually gotten past? I mean, Lauren Underwood has actually, to my knowledge, has actually passed more bills than ALC has. She's passed more bills than Bernie Sanders has. I just want the people to be very mindful of when you hear these things, they are saying these things for a reason.
Starting point is 02:08:52 And I'm saying that what we have to do is push back on that particular nonsense when they say it. All right, folks, Let me thank Derek and Omic Congo for being on today's show. General, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Folks, I am here in Atlanta. Ward Dunn, former NFL player, played for Tempe Bucks, played for the Atlanta Falcons,
Starting point is 02:09:14 has an annual Celebrity Golf Classic. His charity does a lot of work in providing furniture and other resources for families who have homes built by Habitat for Humanity. You might remember the story of his mother, a police officer, killed and murdered in the line of duty in Baton Rouge. And he's really has had a focus on helping people become homeowners. Now they are expanding what they are doing by focusing on the physical health and the mental health of these families that they helped.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Well, last night they had the pairings party. And so I got a chance to be there, help them with the auction, raise some money. Today was the golf tournament. Later we'll show you some of the sights and sound from the golf tournament But it's one to he or one to have tonight though you can hear from Ward Dunn talking about the great things that he's doing here in Atlanta with the Ward Dunn Cherries Here another year for the golf tournament for folks who don't know This is not just about playing golf. It's really a providing resources for folks you need Yeah
Starting point is 02:10:25 for me though. It's really here to help raise money for my home school holidays program, but also now we want to educate people on our scope program that we have overall brand of health and wellness. What we have health is your wealth, get the families to get out, get their biometrics, work out, growing vegetables in their backyard, cooking healthy meals at home, financial health,
Starting point is 02:10:48 with our counter your future program, what we say if you invest in yourself, we will invest in you, we're helping them start a savings account. And I'm always stressing needs, versus ones and also mental health babies hope where you know we're trying to help kids and family have a balance on every day how they respond to adversity you know trauma so for me you know we can create healthy minds healthy bodies we create a healthier communities through our scope program with our homes for the holidays and scope that's really the wrap around support services and all that really
Starting point is 02:11:20 started for that's how i grew up we were a community everyone knew each other we were always out side and times of change and technology has changed a lot of things but at the same time I love that community field I just want to be able to help individuals and families impact you know with impact on the community and positive way so when was that point when you say you know we need to expand this beyond just providing you know the the furniture and things along those lines so what really led to that Well, I think over the years, you know, you start to see how can I help eliminate a lot more issues, but also in the homes now, we give the down payment assistance and we fully in partnership, but we also cater the homes to the family's liking with their favorite colors, themes, and those things. And so we wanted to just, all you got to do is bring your clothes.
Starting point is 02:12:17 And for me, you know, I just wanted to be able to really help all families get off of children. a true fresh start, but I also know that my scope program is a part of my journey and how I was raised and the things that I went through and how I really utilize needs versus ones, how, you know, you got to eat healthy and take care of yourself to live longer. You got to work out and do those little things. I think everything that I'm talking about when it comes to scope, you know, is a part of my journey. The things that I've been through that I can relate that I know that it impacted my life
Starting point is 02:12:54 and made who I am today, who I am, but also how can I now take what I have done an impact that has had on my life, but also go out and help other individuals, other people, other families, communities, be better, live better, have a better mindset about, you know, spending money. I grew up on needs versus wants.
Starting point is 02:13:18 And, you know, thinking about now you invest, you know, 80% and spend 20% Right? Think about that. How you can do that and the outcomes and the returns are down the road. And it's really for the next generation. As we, you know, as parents and, you know, leaders, we have to lead by example. So, you know, for me, it's just I just had great individuals that helped me be who I am, the father figure, my grandmother, and, you know, just men along the way for me. Coach Bobby Bowden, Charlie Ward, Coach Dungee, Arthur Blank, Mr. Blank, he's a majority owner of the Atlanta Falcons. You have individuals that have helped you take those steps along that path to help me be who I am today. So I'm thankful for that.
Starting point is 02:14:07 What do you want to say to this generation of football players and athletes? It's a lot more money that they're getting. And what do you want to say to them about creating their legacy beyond the field? Well, you can't just think about the money. One, you got to love the game, right? But think about what do you want to be passionate about, right? What is something that reigns passion that drives you, that motivates you? For me, you're like, you wake up every day.
Starting point is 02:14:38 It's not work to me. It's just something I do because, you know, I enjoy doing it. And I don't get paid for. I've been doing it. The first five years I started this program. I just wrote the check out of my pocket, you know. Well, the first six years, I just wrote the check out of my pocket, just, you know, helping individuals.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Because in reality, it's not about me. It's not about all the money. It's about the impact that I can make. And I would tell these young guys, it's like, you know, you want to impact the community, set a legacy, then you're not going to think about yourself. You're not going to think about, you know, fancy cars, fancy shoes, clothes, all those things.
Starting point is 02:15:19 You're going to think about, you know, what can I do to impact a change of life that's going to make someone else's life when another kid live better? Because we all have been through journeys and you think about our journeys, you know, we've had people in our lives that have helped mold us, that directed us. And nobody's all 100% perfect. No one's one. You and DePaul with weekend gold tickets to Lassau Montreal. Thomas Rett. Mumford and Sons. John Party, Old Dominion, Carly Pierce, and more.
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Starting point is 02:16:31 And he brought a team of executives. They were going to help the country get in on a gold rush. Carbon and its derivatives are going to be really the next great commodity that the globe's going to trade. But back home in Iowa, trouble was brewing. If you live in Iowa, your land, your water, and your voice could, all be at risk, thanks to a man named Bruce Rastetter. Now, people are questioning if his climate solutions have anything to do with climate at all. You got to give Bruce and the guy's credit.
Starting point is 02:16:59 They're Republicans. They don't give a shit of money. On this season of drilled, Carbon Cowboys, the story of how the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil and what it tells us about the limits of technology and markets to solve the climate crisis. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you at your podcasts. Hey, this is Chuck from Stuff You Should Know, and we're submitting our most sciencey episodes for your peer review with our new stuff
Starting point is 02:17:27 you should know doing science playlist. Out now. You want to know about Occam's Razor? Simplest explanation is usually the right one? We got you covered. Wondered what chaos theory is ever since the first time you saw Jurassic Park. Well, come on down.
Starting point is 02:17:40 So distill a nice pot of tea, everybody. Turn down the gas on your Bunsen burner and slip into your most comfortable lab coat and listen to the stuff you should know doing science playlist on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us. The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great, take over another country. From IHeart Podcasts, Saigon.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Please allow me to introduce Joseph Sherman. You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? I should stop talking so much. I like hearing you talk. One city, a divided country, and the war that tore America apart. This is for Vietnam. I've taken a hit from Japanese ground fire. Do you rate me?
Starting point is 02:18:27 They're pouring patrol all over him. He's holding matches. I'm on a landmine. Or freeze on. Let's get out. Freedom from Vietnam. Run! Saigon, starring Kelly Marie Tran and Rob Benedict.
Starting point is 02:18:41 Sting here's madness. The world should hear about this. There's a fire coming to this country, and it's going to burn out everything. Listen to Saigon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Most people out here think that taking care of one another is important. And most people would step up for a neighbor going through a tough time.
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Starting point is 02:19:27 But it's like, who are you going to surround yourself with as individuals, right? You're going to have people in your circle that's going to push you and help you be better or tell you when you're wrong to help you get back on the right track. And that's the type of individuals company that you should want in your life. who's, they're going to always be real with you, not tell you what you want to hear, but tell you what you need to hear so that you're taking those steps and being better. So that next gen, you know, it's hard work, you know,
Starting point is 02:19:56 commitment, it's sacrificing, you know, and that's one thing I always tell guys, what are you gonna sacrifice to be great? What are you gonna do that's gonna be different? And for myself, doing that journey, I sacrificed a lot. I gave up a lot of stuff to take the steps to get where I'm at today.
Starting point is 02:20:13 It's like how can we try to explain to these guys that all the money in the world, you know, it can, yeah, that's great, but is that gonna make you a better person? What's gonna make you to be the best human being? It's really caring not just about yourself, but your community, people around you. How can you help someone else? And that's gonna have more of a lasting impact
Starting point is 02:20:37 than anything that we could ever do. All right, out of all the celebrities you have through here, who would you say is the best golfer. The best golfer. That's a tough one right there because, you know, all you guys are up and down. I know, I know there's one guy, his name is Roland Martin, and he hit a lot of people out on the golf course. Right now, see, don't get cut. We know that didn't happen. No, I was just best of it. But you got that you've had four Jackson, Sterling Sharp. Yeah, Sterling. Yeah, yeah. I've had some really, really good guys, but I think Sterling is a pretty good
Starting point is 02:21:11 golf for Fred McCrary. That's all he does. He golfs all the time. You know, I know, you know, I just had a lot of really good guys over the years that have played in the tournament and that have come out and they put on shows. Doesn't mean their team win, but they actually did their part and it really, you know, their group enjoyed themselves. And on the golf course, you want to win, but at the same time, you really want to engage your group. Right. Engage them. Have a great time together.
Starting point is 02:21:44 And really just, you know, you can, you know, you guys are talking, laughing, enjoying each other because those are memories that you're making for, you know, for almost five hours on a golf course that I think will last, will impact people in a positive way. So I don't need guys to be the best golfers in the world. I just need guys to be good golfers. You don't want them to hit anybody. But you want them to really go out and engage and just. really, you know, build those relationships because you just never know where those relationships go.
Starting point is 02:22:16 Absolutely. Well, I saw you the Chris Tucker Golf Tournament three years ago. You were like, man, I want you to play in my tournament. So this is, I think this is my third year. So glad to be here. No, I appreciate you, you know, coming down and supporting and, you know, anything I can do to support you because, I mean, I love what you do. So I follow you on YouTube and all those things as well. So, I mean, I'm just happy that I got a big time of like you that I can. look up to it. All right, glad to be here. Yes, sir. Appreciate you. All right. Okay. All right, folks, again, we'll put together a piece and we'll show you what happened on the golf course here at the war done, Celebrity Golf Classic. So, and this is also one of the reasons why in the yard, no, I love to play
Starting point is 02:23:00 golf. But one of the other reasons why I love to be able to be on the road and travel and do this, because, you know, last night, almost $130,000, I think it was $130,000. $1,000, $130,000 was raised last night. And to listen to these stories, you know, we're going to have, there was a package they put together of families talking about how they are impacted. And, you know, you see lots of stories. You see lots of discussions about athletes and former athletes. And you see the flameouts.
Starting point is 02:23:34 You see the arrest for domestic violence. You see all the other drama. Somebody got arrested for drugs or whatever. But you don't see oftentimes these type of stories. And so, you know, we, of course, were at the Anthony Anderson Golf Classic last month. The work that they do benefiting the Boys and Girls Club, but actually he's now the money is benefiting the Chapman-Boson School of Fine Arts at Howard University. Then set the entertainer with his golf tournament, Jeffrey Osborne,
Starting point is 02:24:04 the money they raised there for the arts there in his home state of Rhode Island. Brian Jordan, his foundation, Alex English, what he does for kids there in South Carolina. I mean, just on and on and on. And so the ability for us to be able to bring you these stories and share for you the things that these folks do, I just think it's just so important because you're not going to see these stories being done elsewhere.
Starting point is 02:24:33 And so, and I can tell you right now, there are a lot of media people who come to these things and they also don't cover a lot of these things as well. And so I just think it's just important that we share these stories, we share the good works that the folks are doing and how so many people are impacted. And that's what I was saying earlier. When you get out of the New York City, Washington, D.C. bubble,
Starting point is 02:24:56 and you travel to Palm Desert, California, you travel here to Atlanta. And then, you know, I'm going to be going to be on Thursday. I'm going to be in Nashville. first time playing in the NFL players alumni golf tournament. The work that they actually do there as well. I mean talking to Al Smith and others. And so this is why this network and this show is so important.
Starting point is 02:25:20 And look, I see a lot of the stuff happening out here, y'all. And I get it. Bottom line is it's just a bunch of crap that I just don't feel like talking about. I just don't have any interest in a lot of the gossip and the silly stuff that you see being discussed on the morning shows and other podcasts and stuff along those lines. And I just have no interest in it. And so I want to be able to bring to you different stories, share with you different stories
Starting point is 02:25:53 and things that are happening. And that's why this is critically important. So that is it. I appreciate all of you all for watching us. Please do me a favor. I'll be here in Atlanta tomorrow. I'm in Nashville, Wednesday and Thursday. Memphis. I'm speaking there, the Juneteenth event there. Be sure to get your tickets for that.
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