#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Kirk Shooting Suspect Revealed, DOJ Voter Database Report, Crockett Slams GOP Over Minors

Episode Date: September 13, 2025

9.12.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Kirk Shooting Suspect Revealed, DOJ Voter Database Report, Crockett Slams GOP Over MinorsSurprise, surprise, surprise!  It was a right-wing, straight, white, Tr...ump-supporting male who allegedly fired the shot that killed Charlie Kirk. Where are all of those MAGA folks blaming the liberals for murder? I have a whole lot to say about that. We'll discuss the Justice Department reportedly compiling an unprecedented database of national voter information.And in tonight's Crockett Chronicles, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett calls out Republicans for wanting to do body searching on unaccompanied minors to look for gang tattoos. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseThis Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing.Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV.The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:03 AXS.com. Folks, today is September 12, 2025, coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network, man, I've been waiting, I've been waiting, I've been waiting, I've been waiting to talk to y'all all day. Hashtap, we've tried to tell you, MAGA is losing its mind because one of their own was arrested for the murder of Charlie Kirk. His mama, his daddy, his grandmama, they're all MAGA, they're all Trump supporters. Early reports say he felt Charlie Kirk was not conservative enough. Oh, we got CVS long receipts.
Starting point is 00:02:05 How all of these right-wingers who are blaming the left and blaming black people and blaming transgender, they are deleting tweets, deleting videos, we got lots to talk about. Also, NBCNBC sends out a shameful email to the companies, all the employees across the country calling Charlie Kirk a father, a husband, a devout Christian, but they don't say nothing about his blatant racism.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Is that how Germans are supposed to be acting? Also, Donald Trump says he's going to sit the National Guard to Memphis next. We'll talk with State Representative Justin Pearson about that issue. And in Dallas, Black Madonna's operator, Roland Parrish, holds his annual golf tournament. he and I talk about black business
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Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah It's rolling martin Yeah Rolling with rolling now He's funky's fresh He's real the best you know He's rolling martin Folks, we've got lots to break down today on the show.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And I can't wait until we get into it. In about 20 minutes, we're going to talk to State Representative Justin Pearson, represents Memphis, because Donald Trump plans on sending in. in the National Guard to Memphis to talk about the issue of crime. Lots of stuff that I want to get into on today's show. And then, of course, y'all, you all know we are going to get into, we are going to get into all of this nonsense that we saw today, how White Maga is losing it, how all of the,
Starting point is 00:04:56 of a sudden, in 48 hours, we went from destroy, kill, take out the left, these destructive animals. I mean, they had all sorts of stuff to say, tonight all of a sudden, let's pray, let's pray, let's call upon God to speak to our minds and hearts and pray for this, this troubled soul, who allegedly shot and killed their beloved Charlie Kirk I mean it is a 180 degree
Starting point is 00:05:33 turn because it's amazing what happens when one of your own is busted when one of your own you come to find out is responsible I mean we
Starting point is 00:05:49 had nothing I mean nothing But diet, I mean, all kinds of stuff. So y'all, I got to get into a whole lot of this. And so y'all know, we got lots to unpack. I mean, we got lots to unpack. I'm telling you, y'all just want to buckle up. Y'all want to buckle up.
Starting point is 00:06:13 So let me get to some other news first before I get to that. And I know y'all want me to get to that, but trust me, we got to let folk get here this thing got to marinate because I'm telling you all we're going to deal with this in the last part of the show. We're going to deal with that. Let's talk about voting first. I have repeatedly said
Starting point is 00:06:42 that the thug in chief Donald Trump is a cheater. He's a cheater. He's a liar. You can ask all of his wives and his ex-wives. Um, he cheats at everything. Now what they're trying to do, they're trying to build this massive database of voter information that's across the country. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Now remember, Steve Bann has been out here saying, well, we've got lawyers saying that Trump could run for a third term, even though the Constitution is very clear, but only being able to serve two terms, okay? According to the New York Times, the Department of Justice is gathering. the most extensive collection of national voter role data ever compiled in an attempt to substantiate their long-hurt, long-hale, unverified, flat-out lies about undocumented immigrants voting illegally. The Times said the initiative involves collaboration between the civil rights and the criminal divisions of the Justice Department. They're seeking data about individuals, names, and addresses, which experts say could potentially violate the law.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Now, let's be clear. These people are liars. They make up stuff. So I don't have any, any trust in anything that emanates from anything associated with Donald Trump. Whether it's DOJ, whether it's the Federal Trade Commission, the SEC, it doesn't matter. These people love to lie. They love to push falsehoods and want us to fall for the okey-doke. This is also why I keep telling black people we can't be sitting out elections.
Starting point is 00:08:42 We can't be doing these things. In Missouri today, what do they do? They passed Trump's racist gerrymandered map destroying the congressional district of Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver there in Kansas City, former mayor of Kansas City, preacher, my alpha brother. Right now in Missouri, it's seven to two, seven Republicans, two Democrats, two Democrats are Emmanuel Cleaver in Kansas City, Wesley Bell, in St. Louis. So they don't want seven, two, they want eight to one.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So that's what's going on. That's also what's happening. So I need our people to understand that they are targeting, not as undocumented immigrants, they are targeting black people, and we better understand this is the most vicious, racist, racist assault on voting rights since Jim Crow. This is absolutely Jim Crow 2.0. My panel today, Candace Kelly, legal analyst, host Not All Hood out of South Orange, New Jersey. Appreciate you being here. Batmaning civil rights attorney out of Corpus Christi, Texas.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Michael Emotep hosts African History Network Show out of Detroit. Candace, I'll start with you. I'm clear. I don't trust anything these people do. Nothing. Nata. They are liars. They are cheaters.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And if they all of a sudden come back, we found massive voter fraud. I believe that it would be completely made up. Listen, this is already set under the Constitution who actually, actually should manage the voting and manage who is, you know, how to register things that nature. It's an Article 1. You know, little by little what we are seeing is we're seeing the administration try to reverse the Constitution, as you say, all the way back to Jim Crow. That's what this is going to be. It's going to be an organization of voters that they seem to deem fit, that they seem to say needs to be on this voter registration list
Starting point is 00:10:45 or not. As you said, it's only going to work out in their favor or else they wouldn't be doing it. They would not put out all of the money and effort in time to do something that doesn't benefit them. So whatever they're cooking up, they're cooking up to make it something good that tastes good just to them. And that is what's going on right now. I mean, there is no national voter registration. And that is for a reason. It belongs to the states. And as you mentioned already, we see what's happening with gerrymandering already and what the department and what the federal government is doing there. We know it's just going to bleed over into this composite of voter, of those who can vote. It will not work out well for anybody who has
Starting point is 00:11:29 an accent, anybody who is a person of color, or anybody who might be below the poverty line. It will not work out. I mean, look, Matt, they lost everywhere, every court. And these fools, these liars insist on voter fraud. Republicans have been yelling and screaming this. Voter fraud is nearly, it's just, in matter of fact, when you look at the cases of actual voter fraud, it's done by Republicans. In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on.
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Starting point is 00:12:59 AXS.com. Yeah. And, you know, what I thought initially when I read this story was data is the new oil. I think Candace kind of alluded to it. I don't even know what's on the back end of this, but I know it's, one, nefarious. And two, I think it's going to be something that's going to end up really affecting the core question of the validity of elections, or at least they're going to try to make it that. And what they're likely going to do is find a very small number of instances, if any at all, a voter fraud.
Starting point is 00:13:35 and they're going to try to magnify it and show that there's some widespread voter fraud. Because as we know, every one of those cases that got filed related to that was lost, right? I mean, people lost law licenses behind moving those false cases. So I think it's a question of how are they going to ultimately use this data. I know part of it is a citizenship attack. You know, they're checking people's citizenship status, and we know that there's going to be an immigration nexus. But beyond that, I think Candace is right. There's something that they're cooking up, and I don't know exactly what it's going to.
Starting point is 00:14:05 going to be, but surely it's going to be to try to undermine both local and federal elections and to just make Americans at large think you can't trust any elections, despite the fact that most states are able to have stable and, what is the word, credible elections, you know, in each cycle. So that's what I think's coming down the pike, but I don't know exactly what that looks like just yet. Michael, with these people, people might as well go ahead and get ready. Donald Trump is going to send ICE, U.S. Marshals, every federal
Starting point is 00:14:39 law enforcement to polling places to intimidate people. They're going to make up stuff with these voter rolls. There's nothing. I do not trust these people at all. Right. And we shouldn't trust them. And
Starting point is 00:14:55 in addition to in addition to ICE and the National Guard, you could have the proud boys then the oath keepers show up as well, because we know he gave pardons to 1,500 insurrectionists that try to overthrow the government in 2021, January 6th. So, yeah, this is more—this is more of the authoritarian play that's taking place— I'm getting a lot of feedback. That's playing out. And what we have to realize is
Starting point is 00:15:26 this is the— Yeah, I was talking about her. This is them fearing. The African-American vote. This is them fearing the vote of Latinos, et cetera. And this is a desperate play for them to gain power. And as you've talked about, your book, White Fear, they fear 2043 when it's projected that white people will become the minority population in this country. So, yeah, we have to get ready. We have to study Project 2025 and develop strategies to fight against this.
Starting point is 00:16:03 our people to understand what's going on here i need to understand what's going on here i need to understand that they are going to be attacking black people look this national voter registration database that's one thing they are scared to death candis they can't lose the house they are so desperate again they're gerrymandering seats uh doing everything they know The economy is tanking. It is tanking. Their own people are upset with them. They will do whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:40 They will do whatever they can to cheat. And that's what their goal is. And people need to not go, well, I'm not quite sure, rolling. I think you're just hyping this thing up. No, I'm not. Well, let's take a look. The midterms are coming up. What's that?
Starting point is 00:16:58 33 seats that are at stake. You're correct. They have something in mind. because they need something to build on to say, listen, what we're doing is right. But this voter registration thing that's going on and that what we've been experienced for all of our lives, it's wrong. And that is what they are setting up for. The other thing that they are doing by setting up this national voter registration list, again, under their umbrella, so we know how that's going to turn out, is that nobody's mentioning any more of Jeffrey Epstein, really, are they? I mean, it's really gone away.
Starting point is 00:17:29 So you have to look at all of these things as distractors that they are. This is what they want us and all of the media to be talking about. And yes, it's happening and we need to be talking about. But there are other issues that are even bigger that we're not talking about. And that is also part of the strategy. They're going to use this in campaigning and they're going to use this to deflect other things that we're going to find out about a year from now. Yeah, I'm telling you, Matt, we have to be extremely protective. These people, they are going to cheat.
Starting point is 00:18:09 They're going to try to do everything. And remember what Donald Trump said in 2016, black people, thank you for not voting. The only way to send these people a message is if we have, y'all want to do boots on the ground? do boots on the ground to the ballot box. That's what you do, Matt. Precisely, especially because you can't trust the Supreme Court's going to get it right if it gets up there to them.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It's purely a numbers game. So it's got to be boots on the ground to the ballot. And it can't be people who are saying, I don't love one of the candidates or I feel like you're not talking to me 100%. People have to not only be informed, but they have to say ultimately no politician is going to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:18:50 But if I sit this out, we're going to have another. Trump or another person trying to take his place, and we cannot abide that. I mean, we're in this position because people didn't vote the way they needed to. And it really baffles me that we as a country, or the people in this country who voted, voted for Donald Trump twice to be our president. That should not happen in a rational world, and the way you stop that is people going to actually cast their vote. So people cannot be riding the couch in the midterms and in subsequent elections. Michael?
Starting point is 00:19:25 You know, when I mentioned Project 2025, it's important for people to understand that 47% of Project 2025 policies have been implemented in approximately the first eight months of Donald Trump's presidency, and that's tracked by Project 2025 tracker. Secondly, I think we have to change the language. It's not they are going to cheat, is they are cheating. What we just saw in Missouri today, okay, with the new maps, that is cheating. What we saw in Texas, what Republicans in Texas, gerrymandering the maps midterm, I mean, mid-census, not waiting on the census to redraw district maps. That is cheating.
Starting point is 00:20:04 So it's not that they are going to cheat, is that they are cheating, and they're going to do it even more so. The question is, how do African Americans organize the fight against this? Okay, because they, this is an all-out assault. You've talked about defunding Black America, Rowland. This is the worst assault on African-Americans since going back to the modern-day civil rights book. It is, and we've got to be prepared. Going to a break.
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Starting point is 00:25:35 We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result. of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic,
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Starting point is 00:26:45 like pasteurized milk without the 2%. You want to turn that shit off? We're doing an interview, motherfucker. Donald Trump is sending the National Guard to Memphis, the Tennessee governor, Governor Little Lee. He's certainly happy with it. Well, the mayor of Memphis, Paul Young, said he did not ask for it. It's not his choice, but the decision has been made,
Starting point is 00:27:15 so therefore he'll work with them. I don't understand that decision. He doesn't have to work with them. It's not like he doesn't have the same issues that Muriel Bowser has in Washington, D.C., where the fans can have control over Washington, D.C. joining us right now is State President of Justin Pearson. Glad to have you back on the show. In the second, we're going to play.
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Starting point is 00:28:44 Don't Trump. Oh. Red State. governor. He's not going to oppose this. He got opposition from Governor Pritzker to Illinois, Democrat. Opposition, Gavin Newsom in California, Democrat. So now he's found his perfect foil, a red state governor who says, sure, come on in. Absolutely. I mean, what we are saying is, well, again, another significant abuse of power by this administration against a black community. The majority of residents and people who live in Memphis and Shelby County are black African-American folk.
Starting point is 00:29:17 The fact that he's targeted Los Angeles, the fact that he's targeted Washington, D.C., threatened to target Chicago, is no coincidence. This is all a part of a ploy as it relates to authoritarianism and him being a dictator wannabe and enshrining white supremacy and its abuse of power in our communities. And so we have to speak up at minimum and resist what is happening because this is only the start. We know this is not how it ends. Midterm elections are coming up, presidential elections are coming up. So what happens when he deploys the National Guard into our communities during those times?
Starting point is 00:29:51 And as you said, this is a state that's run by Republicans, this is run by Republicans, and yet they aren't investing in the things that we need for them to. They're attacking and threatening our communities. So, okay, and we're going to play a little bit in a second. So when the mayor says, I have no choice, okay, I don't understand that. Here's what I'm looking at. All right, so federal government, so Governor Lee, if y'all want to send in these troops
Starting point is 00:30:23 and you want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars, how about y'all simply cut a check for Memphis to be able to expand crime prevention efforts and not just when it comes to police, but also when it comes to the other issues, economic issues that impact loanring crime, which is what Brandon Scott did in Maryland,
Starting point is 00:30:48 which is what Brandon Johnson has done in Chicago. You cannot have a conversation about crime in this country without talking about poverty. There is no way that you need to have a military occupation where you don't even have policies for policy, intervention, prevention, and alleviation. And in this state, there has been an intentional effort not to do anything about eradicating poverty
Starting point is 00:31:10 and yet we give billions in tax cuts to corporations. Donald Trump, Bill Lee, Cameron Sexton, Rand McNally, none of these people care about Memphis or the people who live here. They don't care about ending crime. They don't care about any of those things. They're using this as a part of the political talking points as well as political power building for building an authoritarian regime and destroying our democracy. But if they actually wanted to help, they would give tens of billions of dollars to Memphis and Shelby County to eradicate poverty, to fix housing, who are insured kids are getting adequately educated, but they aren't trying to deal with the root causes of the very issue that they're talking about. Why? Because Bill Lee's been in office
Starting point is 00:31:49 eight years. He hasn't tried to do anything about poverty. He hasn't tried to do anything substantially about crime. Why? Because the National Rifle Association, the Tennessee Firearms Association, is in these folks' back pocket. And so they know that they're not going to put forward any laws to actually end the gun violence epidemic, actually prevent guns from being in the hands of people who otherwise should not have them. One of the reasons that I got expelled a couple of years ago was fighting against gun violence and demanding gun safety legislation.
Starting point is 00:32:16 They don't want to address the problem, but they do want to use our Black City as a pawn in this authoritarian game. And we do have a responsibility as elected officials to speak up and to stand up against this and to demand that we get the resources from the federal government financially and don't get a military occupation.
Starting point is 00:32:38 We reached out to the mayor's office. We got no response from the mayor's office, but we did pull this statement for social media. Mayor Paul Young said earlier this week, I was informed that the governor and the president were considering deploying the National Guard and other resources to Memphis. I'm committed to working to ensure any efforts strengthen our community and build on our progress. We agree with Governor Lee that effective support for Memphis come through focus initiatives that deliver results like we have seen. with the FBI, state troopers, and other law enforcement partnerships. What we need most are financial resources for intervention and prevention, additional patrol officers, and case support to strengthen MPD's investigations.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Memphis is already making measurable progress in bringing down crime, and we support initiatives that help accelerate the pace of the work our officers, community partners, and residents are doing every day, unquote. I take it you never heard. I take it that Governor Bill Lee never consult to you. I've been taking it that Governor Bill Hager. and U.S. Senator Marsha Blackburn never consulted you on any of this? Absolutely not. They haven't consulted me. They haven't called, and they won't.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They won't call because they actually don't want to address the root causes of the problems that we're dealing with. They only want to continue to perpetuate a narrative of criminality, black criminality. They only want to continue to perpetuate a narrative that black folks, you all can't govern yourselves, you all can't lead yourself, you all do not have the solutions. And so the only thing that you will understand is having militarized men, women and people in your community policing and taking on police powers that they otherwise should not have. This is detrimental not only to the idea of having a democracy is detrimental to the beliefs that many of us hold about the right to self-government. And years ago,
Starting point is 00:34:24 that may have been a Republican saying or theme for their party, but it has to be our responsibility to protect and to defend ourselves from these overreachers and power by this administration and by these white supremacists who only want to use. our cities to use pain that we actually do experience and endure as talking points for them in the political sense. They haven't called me. They're not going to call me, but what they are going to hear is the voices of our community. They are going to hear other elected officials who have the courage to speak up and to actually say what needs to be said, stand up, and fight back against what is happening in our community. We do want financial, federal
Starting point is 00:35:02 investment. That we do want. We don't want a military occupation. And for decades, we have been deprived of getting the resources that we need to actually deal with the eradication of poverty, to deal with the housing insecurity. 36% of children in Memphis are living in poverty, and this has been consistent for years, and we have yet to have leadership nationally at the local, especially not at the state level, to actually address the root causes of the problem. And gun violence is the leading cause of death for kids under the age of 18. That doesn't happen by coincidence or accident.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That is done by policies being passed at the state legislature that has made it easier for people to have access to firearms than it is for them to access a higher wage job. That's what we have to change. And that's what we have to articulate in this movement and in this. And correct if I'm wrong, after that was that mass shooting at a school, was it the first action of the Republican-controlled legislature to give gun manufacturers immunity? One of the first bills they had was to give gun manufacturers immunity. Another bill that they had was to arm teachers. And then one of the first acts they took after that was my expulsion and my colleagues' expulsion. So they have never actually taken the issue of black pain seriously.
Starting point is 00:36:24 They've never actually taking the issue of gun violence disproportionately hurting and harming our community in Memphis and Shelby County seriously. But now all of a sudden they're saying this overreach into our... community, the National Guard coming into Memphis is the solution without ever taking a single step to prevent the problem from happening because they don't want for us to be successful. They don't want for our kids to grow up. They don't want for our community to succeed. They want to continue to have people in Tennessee, because we are Tennesseans, being mistreated, misused, and abused by the government.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And this is the history of this state. This is the history of this country for its black people. it's black residents or his black citizens in particular. The state budget was $60 billion. Asked me how many billions came back to Memphis in Shetown. They're not getting out of debt enough. And that is the problem. We deserve, we demand in that state government, but they've yet to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Matt, you first. situation where you don't have a Supreme Court that is going to enforce the sovereignty, essentially, of your local community. What funding or appropriations or other mechanism do you have to push back? Because before you answer, what I've really been struggling with is we really have a crisis of federalism in this country right now. You have a president who's far overstepping his bounds into realms that are supposed to be yours, right, or other locally elected politicians' realms of influence. So what do you see
Starting point is 00:38:10 as mechanisms to push back against that when you see the courts, at least the Supreme Court, is not holding the line the way it needs to? Yeah, I mean, you have a couple of things. One, you have court cases that the administration has lost or is likely to lose when they try to encroach in California the threat in Maryland. And because those are democratically controlled states, they are more difficult for the president to send in National Guardsmen and National Guards folks as policing presences. But when you have a very weak, cowardice Bill Lee or Republican leaders like Cameron Sexton and the like in Tennessee, they're able to more easily corrupt them because they're Republicans in power and misuse
Starting point is 00:38:55 their authority against their citizens, in this case citizens in Memphis and Shelby County. So our response has to look at all legal means, and we're fortunate that there are a lot of lawyers helping our city government and leaders to understand what is our power, what are our leverages for power that we can ask for, what demands can we make to ensure that our citizens are safe. We are deeply worried and concerned about overpolice, and we had the National Guard in Memphis after Dr. King was assassinated. We had the National Guard in Memphis in 1978 when the firefighters went on a strike.
Starting point is 00:39:27 It does not bode well for us and for our communities that all. already experience over policing. We've lost in Memphis, Tennessee, Tyree Nichols at the hands of police officers. And so we know that having more policing is not the answer, that there are some legal avenues that we are learning so that we will be able to defend ourselves against the encroachment of the federal government into our community and to defend each and every one of our residents as best as we possibly can. But this is unprecedented territory for us in the 21st century, and so we're having to fight in this present moment. Let's go to Candace.
Starting point is 00:40:09 So you mentioned Tyrese Nichols, and certainly these three of the five officers, they've been granted new trials because of something that the judge shed. And I am wondering what is the state of the police there in your estimation? Have there been any type of changes or anything that you've seen with boots on the ground with the police since the beating death. Yeah. I mean, the death of Tyree Nichols is heartbreaking. His family has become family to meet Mama Wells, Mr. Wells, his sister.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I've gotten very close with them, and they're some of the strongest, most powerful people that I've ever had the opportunity to meet. And what's happening with that trial in particular is heartbreaking and devastating. The fact that a new trial has been granted for these three officers who are each found guilty of some crime very recently until that was. was overturned because a judge said something that he should not have said and it tainted the entire case, according to the judge who reviewed that appeal. And so there's a lot of heartbreak and pain and shock as it relates to the case of Tyree Nichols in elevating his life and the case
Starting point is 00:41:13 of the officers, I would say, who took his life away. When it comes to our policing in our city, we tried and did pass laws locally to protect our community. The state preempted our laws and try to undo them. The chief of police has said that she's following those policies that were passed by the city council, I do believe. But the reality is we are still over police, particularly in poor black and brown communities more than anybody else. We're still more likely to die at the hands of police officers than any other demographic of people. And so we have not solved, again, all of the problems that need to be addressed as a relates to policing in our communities. And the National Guard, they are not a police force.
Starting point is 00:42:00 They have no idea about community policing. They do not have the work, the role, the responsibility of policing communities. That's not their jobs. And so you're putting very ill-equipped and ill-trained people into an urban setting, a city setting as ours is, and giving them powers, potentially, giving them powers and given them authority that they should not otherwise have, which can only be detrimental for our community. And we have to fight and speak up and speak back now because we shouldn't wait until something bad happens to call out what is going on, that we have a white supremacist president of the United States attacking a black community and weaponizing the military to entrench an authoritarian regime. And the consequences of that for our community
Starting point is 00:42:41 are detrimental and could be dire. And so we need to speak about it now so that if there are ways that we can prevent that and protect our citizens, protect our people, we're able to do that. and I know a lot of good community organizations are already working on know your rights trainings because we are going to have to protect ourselves. Memphis is going to protect Memphis, and that's the work and that's the responsibility right now. Michael? Representative Pearson, today Associated Press has an article about this, and they said that Donald Trump said on Friday that he decided to send troops into Memphis, Tennessee, after Union Pacific CEO,
Starting point is 00:43:21 Jim Vena urged him to do so early in the week to address crime in the city of Memphis, Tennessee. Now, this is at a time when Memphis has overall crime has hit a 25-year low, the first eight months of 2025, and murders have hit a six-year low as well. Do you know anything about this conversation? Have you heard anything about this? Number one, number two, what type of investments would you like the federal government to make? We know $811 million in public safety and victim service grants have been cut by the Trump administration. So what type of investments would you like to see?
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah, I mean, it's a terrifying thing when a very wealthy person can meet with the President of the United States one time, and then a decision that impacts over 900,000 people in my city and county happens almost overnight and is announced on Fox and Friends. That's too much power that's being given overwhelmingly wealthy white men in the United States of America. But in our city, we're even fighting Elon Musk and the Chamber of Commerce, Ted Townsend. It's the same principle, wealthy white people being able to dictate what is good, what is necessary for communities.
Starting point is 00:44:35 And that isn't how you build safer communities, healthier communities, communities that are going to be sustainable into the future for future generations. And so I've heard of that conversation. It concerns me greatly because billionaires are running our government, and they're running it in the conversations that they're having. They're running it in the laws that they're passing, such as the big ugly bill that literally gave $4 trillion worth of wealth to rich people in this country and stole it from poorer people. This pattern is endemic and systemic in the way that this country has been operating, but particularly under this administration that doesn't care about poor people, doesn't care about black folks, Latino folks, Asian folks, doesn't care about anybody who is not. a billionaire who is not wealthy, who is not influential. If a baby is giggling in the back seat, they're probably happy.
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Starting point is 00:46:15 Get your tickets to J-A-X-S.com. Ways that they regard. And so it is a wee problem. It's about us. It's about all of us. And whether you are a poor white person or not, you need to realize that just because they are stealing and coming out to our rights today does not make you safe.
Starting point is 00:46:34 It does not guarantee anything for you. And the erosion of democracy in our lives is the erosion of democracy in our entire political life. And what are the investments that we need? To your point, there's recognition. that hundreds of millions, billions of dollars that otherwise would have helped with violence intervention programs, that would have reduced the amount of people who are getting sick and don't have access to health care or hungry and don't have access to food. All of those types of programs are being cut by this administration.
Starting point is 00:47:01 They are doing things to make it harder for everybody to live. And yet they're blaming the consequences of my actions on majority black cities, on majority black leaders. This is part of what's immoral and unjust. what do we need? And what am I calling for? 10 billion dollars of investment into Memphis and Shelby County to help us with housing. Ten billions of dollars of investment to help us with educating each and every one of our children so that they are at the right literacy level when we know two-thirds of our children are graduating and they are not even reading at the great level that they should. We need billions of dollars of investments that actually deal with the problem on the
Starting point is 00:47:38 front end, not militarization, not over-policing, not a military occupation, but an intervention as it relates to financial investment from Memphis and Shelby County. That's what we should be demanding. That's what we should be speaking about. I'm not looking for us to partner with the National Guard. I'm looking for us to demand that the federal government give us our money back and invest in our community because we are suffering in so many different ways.
Starting point is 00:47:59 We have some of the folks who are struggling the most here. We have some of the highest levels of unemployment, some of the highest levels of people being unhoused. We've got some real challenges, but we need the federal government to do its job and get us more resources. And that's the job of our congressmen, that's the job of our city leaders, that's the job of the President of the United States.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And if you would focus on that job, we wouldn't be talking about crime in so many different places. All right. State Reverend Justin Pearson, man, we appreciate to keep up the good fight. We're fighting together. Let's keep going. All right, thanks a lot. All right, folks, going to a break.
Starting point is 00:48:36 When we come back, we have got to talk about how White MAGA is losing their shit because one of their own was arrested for the murder of Charlie Kirk. We're going to tell you about Tyler Robinson, his family, where he went to school, and it's a whole lot of tweets and videos that are being deleted, taken down, and it's amazing how the tone has also shifted. Oh, we got a lot to unpack on right here on Rolling Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Don't forget, support the work that we do. Join our Brain the Funk fan club.
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Starting point is 00:51:50 They announced in Utah that a suspect was arrested in the shooting death of Charlie Kirk, the right-wing provocateur, who was gunned down while speaking at Utah at a university end. Utah. Tyler Robinson is the young man's name. He was turned in by his father. Former law enforcement, former sheriff, minister. He comes from a MAGA family. His grandmother's on record saying, I don't know anybody in this family who was a Democrat. And now we're hearing that according to reports that he was a Goyper. That is that that is a far, far, far right, Nick Fuentes, the racist, white supremacist, acknowledge white supremacist, anti-Semite. He apparently is a follower of him.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Also, crazy deranged Laura Lumer. She's been deleting a lot of her tweets as well. A lot of her tweets dealing with Charlie Kirk as well. It has been an unbelievable day, folks, and just watching all of this stuff unfold. It's been unbelievable. Also, of course, the news conference, this weird sitting from Cash Patel's. I don't know what the hell he was talking about. But check this out.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So, Nick Fuentes, you know, now, y'all need to understand. This dude had 200,000 people watching him live last night. He has cultivated a massive following, and he was highly critical of Charlie Kirk, attacking Charlie Kirk as not being a real Christian. The videos are amazing to see this whole back and forth. Oh, this is also the guy who had lunch with Donald Trump, along with Kanye West and Mar-Largo. So just so y'all understand how all this is wrapped up. And what's crazy is, remember, oh, they were blaming the left, calling for folks to be fired, all sorts of stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:51 But it's amazing how their tone has totally shifted, totally shifted. now that a white guy we tried to tell you remember I told everybody stopped jumping the conclusions let's play it all out but no the left the left the left the left
Starting point is 00:54:10 the radicals they're crazy they're terrorists what say you now so Fuentes who was on the receiving end of a big New York Times article last week realizing he's about to get a lot of
Starting point is 00:54:27 heat for his views. He posted this video today. This is a very delicate situation. This is a very delicate situation. I fear that this is set off a chain reaction. I pray to God there is no further violence. I pray to God that nobody else is hurt as a result of this. I hope that it stops here.
Starting point is 00:54:56 It should stop here. to all of my followers, if you take up arms, I disavow you, I disown you in the strongest possible terms, that is not what we are about. And the same goes obviously for the other side. And I want to make that very clear. It would be a profound, moral, political mistake for anybody to take the bait and to engage in any kind of reprisal, retaliation, revenge? Remember, we are the good side.
Starting point is 00:55:37 And what makes us good is that we have Christ. What makes Christianity and Christ so different from the other religions is that our religion is based on the bearing of suffering for the sake of even those that persecute us. an overflowing of love, an overflowing of self-giving love, so much of it, it cannot be contained. An unconditional, absolute standard of love for all of God's children, even those that are misguided, even those that persecute us, even the most heinous among us. that is what makes us different.
Starting point is 00:56:28 That is what makes us good. You think you're good, you're not. You are not good. I am not good. You are a man. I am a man. You are a sinner. I am a sinner.
Starting point is 00:56:43 We cannot save ourselves. We cannot save this world. God can save us. God can save the world. and God saves us, and God saves the world by drawing all of us up onto the cross with him. And we join not just in his glory, but in his suffering. Real suffering, not imaginary, not a nice story, real suffering, real death, real destruction, real misery. We bear a cross, like Christ bears a cross, like his disciples, like the martyrs, like the saints bear across.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And you better get comfortable up there. Drink up. And you bear that cross, not for your kin, not for yourself, not for your children, which are an extension of yourself. You bear that cross and that suffering. You drink from that chalice for your enemies. Sounds pretty desperate to me, huh? Yeah, I thought so. Utah Governor, he has been talking about how we need to bring folks together here as Utah Governor Spencer Cox.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He was hoping the killer wasn't even American. You know, this bad stuff happens. And for for 33 hours, I was, I was praying that that, uh, that, if this had to happen here that it wouldn't be one of us that somebody drove from another state somebody came from another country that sadly that that that prayer was not answered the way I hope for just because I thought it would make it easier on us if we could just say hey we don't do that here and indeed Utah is a special place we leave the nation in charitable giving we leave the nation
Starting point is 00:58:51 in service every year. And then you've got the stupid Hall of Famer, Donald Trump Jr., who's an absolute idiot. Oh, this is what he had to say. They realized they lost the debate entirely, so they have to resort to violence. And contrary to what we're seeing elsewhere and online, it is not going both ways. It is going one way. It's coming from those aligned with the Democrat. party. The hate has been fomented by those in the Democrat Party, and you can probably play
Starting point is 00:59:27 hundreds of hours of those clips. It's coming from the media. Some of them are doing a quick course correction and probably scrub their social media feeds for all the things I've said about Charlie, myself, my father over the last few years. But you can't call someone who you disagree with or simply can't win an argument with a Nazi, a fascist, a dictator, a greatest threat to democracy in the history of civilization, and then pretend you had nothing to do with it when the more radical wing, and there does not seem to be all that much difference to me these days, takes up arms and tries to kill those they disagree with. It's not one way.
Starting point is 01:00:05 It's not both ways. It is simply one way. And anyone who's saying otherwise should be thrown off the air. Hmm, that's interesting Because That's what Maga's now doing And man, they are scrubbing left and right, y'all Oh, let's take South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace
Starting point is 01:00:32 Who's running for governor? This is Nancy yesterday before today's news This shit ends in like another Enough is enough. And now I have to deal with real safety concerns. It sounds like the shooter was a tranny or pro tranny. And just because I want to protect women that I'm worried about getting murdered. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 01:00:57 This is, it's out of control. And enough is enough. And I'm going to double down on this. I'm going to be more vigilant than ever. I'm going to be louder than I've ever been until this shit stops. It's got to stop. And all the security measures, we've taken many security measures. leading up to this because of these lunatic trannies, but now, I mean, I have police posted
Starting point is 01:01:18 outside of my offices in South Carolina. I have employees that are afraid to come to work. I have children who think they're going to get murdered at school. And so this is, it's going to end. And you guys in the press need to be more responsible about this and actually be fair and cover the things that are happening. It's unbelievable. And here's Heather with the weather. Well, it's beautiful out there, sunny and 75, almost a little chilly in the show. shade. Now, let's get a read on the inside of your car. It is hot. You've only been parked a short time, and it's already 99 degrees in there. Let's not leave children in the back seat while running errands. It only takes a few minutes for their body temperatures to rise, and that could be
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Starting point is 01:02:39 And, you know, the last of the Democrat Party has allowed this stuff. that happen. And I'm fucking sick and tired of it. Do you know who the shooter is? No, but we've heard reports privately, and I guess it's being reported out now, some of the anti-fascist, pro-transgender things that were written,
Starting point is 01:02:56 either inside the rifle or on the ammunition. You might know better than I do. Do you know if they've identified the person yet? There's been nothing that has been put in court documents or sworn to at all. Yeah, we know this is a political assassination and any theory otherwise is just bullshit and a lie. So I hope that you guys will report on honestly.
Starting point is 01:03:14 That was yesterday. The Wall Street Journal ran that erroneous article talking about there were trans, whatever the hell, whatever the hell on the inside of the rifle. That was a bullshit story. So guess what Nancy Mace was tweeting today, y'all? Please show her tweet. please show because she had such righteous indignation and blaming the media
Starting point is 01:03:46 and you don't cover these things and so can we pull a tweet up please okay okay give me a second y'all
Starting point is 01:04:10 Nancy, y'all was just full of herself, and she was tweeting out, oh, about how we need to now pray for the shooter. Now, again, she was full of it yesterday. She had such vitriol yesterday. but Nancy sounds a little bit different today Nancy said yes to go back to the death penalty
Starting point is 01:04:46 now she's tweet we know Charlie would want we know Charlie Kirk will want us to pray for such an evil and lost individual like Tyler Robinson to find Jesus Christ we will try
Starting point is 01:05:02 to do the same the matter of fact it gets better she said we truly believe if Tyler Robinson had ever sat down across from Charlie the great debater the man of faith in grace he was Tyler wouldn't have pulled the trigger
Starting point is 01:05:26 wow that is an incredibly different tone than Nancy yesterday. Hmm. Ain't that grand, y'all.
Starting point is 01:05:44 So I got more to show you. Law Lumer. Lar Lumer, who was ripping into Charlie Kirk. Now we know that Tyler Robinson apparently was following
Starting point is 01:06:01 Laura Loomer on social media. So Loomer has been feverishly. Delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete. Come on, pull up her tweet, please. Let's show you what what poor little Laura was saying. They sent a trained sniper
Starting point is 01:06:17 to assassinate Charlie Kirk while he was sitting next to a table of hats that said 47. You could be next. I hate to say it, but I have a sick feeling. We'll be seeing more targeted assassinations. The left are terrorists. today next come on y'all next it's time for the trump administration now this is also
Starting point is 01:06:42 you see yes you see september 10th this is also september 10th y'all two days ago the day of the day of the shooting it's time for the trump administration to shut down defund and prosecute every single leftist organization if charlie kirk dies from his injuries his life cannot be in vain we must shut these lunatic left is down wants it for all the left is a national security threat hmm don't we have another law Laura Lumer uh post
Starting point is 01:07:11 don't we have another one okay well because here it says I had three of them it says I had three so don't you have another one my grader says have three graphic okay all right y'all Now, this is the same Laura Lumer, y'all, who was... Put it up, please.
Starting point is 01:07:43 So here you have Laura Lumer. Okay. Again, y'all, these people, I just... You got to... They just make up stuff. but this is this is law luma law before the shooting y'all oh by the way
Starting point is 01:08:01 she deleted this post I don't ever want to hear Charlie Kirk claim he is pro-Trump ever again after this weekend I say he has revealed himself as political opportunities and I have had a front row seat to witness the mental gymnastics
Starting point is 01:08:15 these last 10 years lately Charlie has decided to behave like a Charlotton claiming to be pro-Trump one day while he stabs Trump in the back to next TP USA was only able to thrive thanks to the generosity of President Trump. On the one-year anniversary of the assassination attempt of Trump's life, Charlie hosted comic Dave Smith at TPUSA's S-AS conference,
Starting point is 01:08:35 where Dave Smith was able to speak to a bunch of conservative youth and an organization that claims to be pro-Trump. Three weeks ago, Dave Smith called for President Trump to be impeached and removed from office, even over his decision to blow up Iran's nuclear facilities. Charlie played both sides of the Iran issue on his show, as we all saw, because he wants to play to both sides of the aisle, The honorable thing to do is to have a position and actually defend it to the death instead of flip-flopping. That was, of course, posted before he was shot and killed.
Starting point is 01:09:06 But then the same Laura Lumer came back and now she was calling for things to change. Yeah, same one, same one. so they're losing it they're losing it let's see here who else did I have who else shall I I shall bring up let's see here
Starting point is 01:09:38 okay got some other Twitter because again y'all it has been hilarious to watch these people because they have just been just going left and right Oh, Elon Musk, he tweeted. The left is the party of murder. But now we know it wasn't the left.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Oh, how about crackpot James Woods? The actor, Maga, Nutcase, it's not gun violence, it's Democrat violence. Then he tweeted, dear leftists, we can have a conversation or a civil war. One more shot from your side, and you will not. get this choice again. Then James Woods posted something
Starting point is 01:10:29 placing the blame of Charlie Kurt being killed at the feet of Democrats. Let me ask you tonight, do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do. This is what kicking the shit out of fascism looks like.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Try to prevent the spread of the lawlessness and the fascist chaos that's been unleashed against us. So when we say Donald Trump is a fascist, fascism, a huge component of fascism, is uniting racism, bigotry, a form of racist nationalism. This is, we are now living in a fascist detainorship. We are worried about potential rise of fascism in this country.
Starting point is 01:11:20 in this country. We're worried about our democracy falling to an authoritarian and potentially fascist form of government. Not only to roll over to Donald Trump's will, but to roll over our democracy and allow him to take over this country as a fascist dictator. When fascism isn't just coming, it's already here. The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Millie said, no one has ever been more dangerous to this country than Donald Trump and his. he is a fascist to his core. But all those were lies, y'all. All of these are lies.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And now they are now scurring. They're scurring. They're literally on social media, deleting posts. They're changing their tune. They were calling for people to be fired. Two sources say that Pete Heggseth has been saying find any member of the military
Starting point is 01:12:24 who tweeted anything negative about Charlie Kirk so they can be punished you got crazy-ass Louisiana Congressman Clay Higgins talking about that's why we will cancel anybody we're going after anybody
Starting point is 01:12:37 who say anything negative about Charlie Kirk but they're now trying to figure out oh I love the latest he was radicalized when he went to college he was there for one semester these people are nuts and what they did was it was a total rush to judgment from the moment it happens and what did i tell y'all chill out allow this thing to progress let's find the truth no everybody time magazine political
Starting point is 01:13:19 violence. They all go, now we know it was one of their own. HBCU's getting bond threats. We had to do with this. White dude at a white college, in a white state,
Starting point is 01:13:35 get shot by a white guy that's white on white violence. They were calling for civil war. Jesse Waters was farming at the mouth we're going to take these people now it's
Starting point is 01:13:55 matter of fact your control room I need y'all right now put the New York Post website I want to show y'all how white people white conservatives how they what they do when somebody white
Starting point is 01:14:11 one of their own does something oh y'all gonna love this here this right now is on the front page of the New York Post. Y'all going to love this. Losing
Starting point is 01:14:25 faith. They got a photo of Tyler smiling. A photo of him smiling with his mom and dad and his two brothers. Tyler Robinson was raised Mormon
Starting point is 01:14:41 and allegedly killed Charlie Kurt moments after influencer praised the church. Now y'all know damn well. It's the same New York Post. Man, if y'all scroll down, they will have,
Starting point is 01:14:57 if somebody black kills somebody, oh my God, they are going to have all kind of crazy stuff. Matter of fact, go on, go on down. Y'all going to see an article. Cold-blooded maniac
Starting point is 01:15:14 who cops say killed, burned, elderly New York City couple inside their own home makes chilling admission. I hope y'all see the juxtaposition. Y'all see this photo of the black guy
Starting point is 01:15:33 who killed, who allegedly killed a white couple? Maniac who cops say killed burned elderly New York City couple inside their own home makes chilling admission. Hmm But the murderous white guy
Starting point is 01:15:54 Oh Oh my God He lost his Losing faith He He lost his faith This shows you How shameful
Starting point is 01:16:13 And despicable These people are, Candice I mean to watch this Now it's Charlie would have prayed with him Oh he would have He would have held his hand If only they could have prayed together They were foaming at the mouth 24 hours ago
Starting point is 01:16:34 But now all of a sudden Candace One of their own Again Daddy Sheriff Oh gun lover Daddy, Mama is scrubbing her Facebook page. Got photos on the Facebook page of them holding guns and all kind of stuff. So we got a gun-loving, MAGA-Trump supporting white boy from a Donald Trump-Maga gun-loving family.
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Starting point is 01:18:20 And don't forget, his mother said that he was the ideal model student. And, you know, when I look at this and I think about what went on years ago, because the authorities in Utah said that they received 7,000 tips. They hadn't received this many tips since the Boston Marathon bombing. What happened with that bombing? The same thing that you're talking about. They put two people on the front of the newspaper, and then they had to pay millions of dollars. I think it was the Daily News or the Post had to pay millions of dollars because they got it wrong, because of the way that they portray them. The same way that they're portraying this young man now as if nothing is wrong, and that is what is the matter with journalism today.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I think all of this is wrapped up in journalism, all of it's wrapped up in the media, how we actually portray the people who did what they, did and try to find some truth in it, like people like us on the other side. It is very difficult to discern because everybody is out there giving their opinions. We have to be smarter consumers, know that a lot of people who are out there who are posting or saying things, they're doing this for just pure entertainment. What that woman said about the transgender and stuff that was written on the bullets, that was all made up. Look at Fuentes, that the young man that you showed a bite. He's been kicked off several. social media platforms because of hate speech.
Starting point is 01:19:47 But now he's talking about Jesus on the cross. Roland, I'm sorry. I just cannot even take some of these people seriously because I think in their heart of hearts, in terms of what they posted and all that you've gone through, they don't take themselves seriously. They're really kind of like acting to me. I mean, that's what I see.
Starting point is 01:20:05 They are putting on a performance in order to eventually get what they want, which is vote, to keep people in the middle of chaos and to continue to divide people. That is what is going on now. That's what we see playing out in the media. And actually, this is what we've always seen. Nothing new.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Nothing has changed. It's just that now we have a digital record of everything that we've thought and everything that we think is happening and we now have to go to correct ourselves. But this has been happening for decades. Nothing new. Yeah, and it was crazy here, Michael, all of these, now all these media people are getting exposed, because what they've been doing is, oh, my God, lionizing Charlie Kirk, how, again, Christian father, Fox News is planning a primetime special, all this sort of stuff. In fact, check this out. So NBC, now remember, they fired Matthew Dowd, the commentator, and I'm a play. I'm a play.
Starting point is 01:21:11 I'm going to tell you what he said in a second, but NBC, the leadership of NBC, and we're talking, Brian Roberts, Mike Kavanaugh, and Mark Lazarus. This is what they sit to all of the employees at Comcast's NBC Universal. This is the entire company. The tragic loss of Charlie Kirk, a 31-year-old father, husband, and advocate for open debate whose faith was important to him reminds us of the fragility of life and the urgent need for unity in our nation. Our hearts are heavy as his passing leaves a grieving family and a country grappling with division. There's no place for violence or hate in our society. You may have
Starting point is 01:22:03 seen that MSNBC recently entered its association with a contributor who made an unacceptable and insensitive comment about this horrific event. That coverage was at odds with fostering civil dialogue and being willing to listen to the points of view of those who have differing opinions. We should be able to disagree robustly and passionately, but ultimately with respect, we need to do better. Charlie Kirk believed that when people stop talking,
Starting point is 01:22:36 really bad stuff starts. regardless of whether you agree with his political views his words and actions underscore the urgency to maintain a respectful exchange of ideas a principle we must champion we believe in the power of communication to bring us together today that belief feels more vital than ever something essential has fractured
Starting point is 01:23:02 in our public discourse and as a company that values the power of information We have a responsibility to help mend it. As employees, we ask you to embody our values in your work and communities. We should engage with respect, listen, and treat people with kindness. Michael, I'm sorry. Did Brian Roberts, Mike Kavanaugh, or Mike Lazarus hear or read any of the the things that Charlie Kirk said about
Starting point is 01:23:39 black women about black about black about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. I mean I mean that's what they said respect and treat people with kindness
Starting point is 01:23:53 we have been seen the last 48 hours a lot of folks post a lot of those comments so imagine if you are a black Latino Asian American woman working for NBC Comcast Universal
Starting point is 01:24:12 how you would feel when the leadership sends that out and then talking about him his faith was important to him but clearly the stuff he said about people look like us clearly didn't matter to these NBC Comcast executives Yeah, you know, NBC Comcast, and I know MSNBC has spun off from NBC, but you still have the same mentality running MSNBC with Rebecca Cutler who fired. No, no, no, no, no, no. Keep in mind. Keep in mind. No, no, hold up. Hold up, Michael. Keep in mind. Mark Lazarus, who's running that other company, he was on this email. So go here.
Starting point is 01:25:02 That's how he was one of the, Lazarus is on the email. Right, but, okay, so I was on Carl Nelson's show yesterday, WOL out of Baltimore, talking about this. And when you read some of Charlie Kurt's comments about intelligent, educated,
Starting point is 01:25:21 accomplished black women, and let's be clear, the people, college dropouts like Charlie Kirk are intimidated by intelligent, educated African-Americans, especially African-American women. He said that you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.
Starting point is 01:25:40 He said you had to go still a white person's slot to be taken somewhat seriously. He's talking about them being beneficiaries of affirmative action, but he doesn't want to talk about the racism that caused affirmative action to have to be created in the first place. This whole thing, what you just showed from the New York Post,
Starting point is 01:25:57 I think that was the New York Post you were showing those headlines from, That reminds me of an article from Huffington Post from 2014 called When the Media Treats White Suspects and Killers Better Than Black Victims. And what this whole thing, what this whole article does is it shows how when a white person goes and kills somebody or as a mass murderer, the media goes out of their way to show how it's so much out of their character. We're so surprised.
Starting point is 01:26:26 He was a good engineer, things like this. But when it's an African-American who is the victim of violence, they make it seem like they brought it on themselves. They go all back into their history, you know, and they have a drug problem and things of this nature. So that's what that's showing. But this is, you know, this is MAGA being exposed for what they are, okay? And this is also, this ain't Christianity. This is white Christian nationalism. Let's be very clear.
Starting point is 01:26:52 You know this rolling. This is white Christian nationalism. They have no, they have no sympathy for African-American. Americans, they have no sympathy for immigrants, things of this nature. And then when I saw, lastly, when I saw Governor Cox say he was hoping it was not one of us, he was hoping possibly it was somebody from another country. Now, I know he has been working, even before this, to bring down the tone of political rhetoric. And he's been working with the governor of Colorado.
Starting point is 01:27:19 But some people made mistaken that for saying, oh, you were hoping this was an immigrant who did this shoot him? because if it was, what would happen then? How would this explode? How would this explode? How would this be used if it was an immigrant who did this? I mean, Matt, that's what's so crazy. They literally are disappointed. I can't believe it was one of us.
Starting point is 01:27:47 They are shocked. They are despondent that a Mormon, a a mega Republican gun loving Mormon would shoot Charlie Kirk
Starting point is 01:28:07 they're just like we just we can't believe this we can't and I love the people talking about Charlie Charlie would have
Starting point is 01:28:17 told him about Jesus Nancy Mays he's Mormon and he got shot at the largest university in Utah which is run by Mormons look hate is the heuristic
Starting point is 01:28:38 and what's so interesting about this is what you highlighted in talking about Laura Lumer and Nick Flintus and even Nancy Mace is this is political violence because what this is is you have a person who assassinated him because he didn't think he was conservative enough. And that's what I think is one of the lost parts of this conversation is there's not a discussion of the fact that if you foment hate and you blame the other side for all the ills,
Starting point is 01:29:07 I mean, not only do you have the historical backdrop of exactly what happened in Nazi Germany and other places around the world where somebody was scapegoated and then it turned into mass genocide, right, or mass casualty. But what you have here is you have people who are basically on the same side, if you will, who are so enraged by hate and so invigorated by the hate that they're killing each other because they think the other person is not the embodiment of who they say they are. I mean, when you started with those tweets about Laura Lumer, it's exactly what she was saying about Charlie Kirk, that he wasn't truly who he said he was. And that's what makes this particularly problematic and also interesting to an extent. because they jumped immediately to it's the leftist, right?
Starting point is 01:29:54 It's, that's what we, that's the bell we ring every time we want to galvanize this base and we want to foment people saying, hey, your country's being stolen from you, your whiteness affords you a greater life than what you have now, and that black guy down the street is the one who's stolen it from you, right? So they're already kind of in that little cesspool, and what happens here when you have Charlie Kirk, who is being lionized despite saying some abhorrent, things during the course of his time on Earth, what you have is people who are trying to
Starting point is 01:30:26 out-conservative each other. That's exactly what happening here. And you're never going to see that angle of the conversation because it doesn't meet the narrative. The narrative is it's the left that's doing it. The narrative is, it's, you know, Nancy Mays talking about transgender people or these other things where there's no evidence whatsoever for that is because that's the tone they strike every time.
Starting point is 01:30:46 It's always the other that is the, you know, the group that is to whom the ill should be attributed, the reason for the ills. So that's what I see here. This is political violence, but it's political violence on the same side of the aisle from people who are trying to out-conservative each other. And his life was taken because this young man didn't think he was conservative enough. And that is the part of the conversation we're not hearing because it's not about the truth. Yeah, now I haven't. Now, now I saw that. Now, hold on, I saw that earlier. I have not seen that confirmed.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I saw someone posting that. I saw that being bandied about. We have not seen that confirmed. So we do know that this Groyper community, Candace, I don't know if you've been looking up these folks. People can explain to the people. But these are, this is the Nick Fuentes group. This is the far, far, far, far.
Starting point is 01:31:42 I mean, Charlie Kirk was already far. right. These people were right of him. They, I mean, they, Fuentes, and acknowledge racist, and acknowledge anti-Semite. I mean, he is a virulent racist. Has a huge
Starting point is 01:31:59 following. They felt Charlie Kirk was a fraud. It's right, and that when we're talking about conservatives, I like what Matt said, conservatives trying to out conservative, the next person, because these, what are they, grow fights you said? These are the ones who think that the whole white race
Starting point is 01:32:25 is being displaced for the worst of human mankind and that they're the only group that should actually exist and lead the world. That's basically what they believe. So they're really kind of smashing the belief system and values of every other race on the planet besides white people. So if you think about anything,
Starting point is 01:32:44 within that spectrum, that's what they believe. So that really is, you know, kind of out conservating the conservatives that are out there. But, you know, it reminds me of something, you know, people really don't understand that when they get online, they bait people to do things. And you have people who get online for one reason. I'm not necessarily talking about Charlie Kirk. It could be anybody, anybody that you've played tonight, get online to get the attention that they want, and you've got other people on the other side try to out attention you to get your attention. And this is the ultimate way that Tyler Robinson got attention. He said, you know what, I'm going offline and I'm going to do something in real time. And now he's getting
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Starting point is 01:34:32 Tate McCray. The offspring. Tim McRaw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today. AXS.com. of you. I'm going to turn over the menu. You know, I was watching that Charlie Sheen documentary and he was talking about how he went from women to men because he took crack. And he said he turned
Starting point is 01:34:52 over the menu to men. He was like, anything else? That's how I feel about this young man. He was like, what can I do? Is there anything else I can do to our conservative, the conservatives that are out there? And actually, he did it. And I wouldn't be surprised if he's sitting somewhere in that jail cell and he's saying, I did it. I get exactly what I wanted. Everyone's talking about me, I reach my goal and anything that you're doing on social media around right now, I've just out done.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Yeah, it's just just crazy. I mean, just crazy, I mean, just watching these people. I mean, they literally are losing it. And if y'all have, so that idiot Dinesh D'Souza felon, so
Starting point is 01:35:39 he just said, like this is their new thing. So now, here's their new thing, y'all. Tyler Robinson is every conservative parent's worst nightmare. Send your kid to college where he is radicalized into a violent, anti-fascist by the sly scheming leftist professors. We need to put radical academia on trial along with its cherished product, Tyler Robinson. y'all the boy went to that university for one semester and then uh let me find it then apparently he was studying engineering he was some apprentice something some technical school like
Starting point is 01:36:28 these people are insane they really are mad insane they are grasping at anything what they cannot fathom And the reason they can't deal with this, Matt, is because they don't even want to acknowledge those white domestic terrorists on January 6th. They refuse to acknowledge that there are nut cases, there are people who are violent on the right, and in their minds, that Eric Trump was on social,
Starting point is 01:37:03 did some interview going, no bullets are coming from us, only the other side. boy put put the drugs down Matt I mean that's because the truth doesn't matter it doesn't matter at all all that matters is the sound bite
Starting point is 01:37:23 and I think Candice was getting right at that as she always does and you know it's about wanting to get the vote wanting to get that further cadre of people who are hanging on your every word every time you post a YouTube video it's not about the truth
Starting point is 01:37:37 and none of these people have to ever be accountable because nobody ever calls them out. Now, what's interesting, back to my point earlier, is the cannibalism you're seeing right now where they're eating each other because they're trying to out-conservative the other person. And I'm no true political philosopher, but it stands to reason that a true conservative
Starting point is 01:37:56 would be against fascism, right? It would be against any government that is so large and so authoritarian that it's trampling on the rights of the individual, especially if it becomes an enormous government. But the point is, Dinesh D'Souza is not talking about that. He's just hitting the talking points
Starting point is 01:38:13 because all this is about is hitting the same tone every time. The leftist, those other people, those people who don't deserve the life you want, have the life you want because they've stolen it from you. And the more you say that, the more you strike that tone, then it doesn't matter if there's any truth to it. All that matters is how you make people feel. And that's fomenting anger in them
Starting point is 01:38:32 because they're unhappy with their own lives and they want to outsource the reason for that, right? Not looking at themselves, but saying it's somebody down the road, it's that guy's fault, and because it's his fault, he's going to be the one
Starting point is 01:38:45 that I point the finger at. That's all this comes down to. It isn't about the truth at all. In fact, Michael, you know, on the same day, Charlie Kirk was shot that was a shooting at a Colorado school. Three people were shot,
Starting point is 01:38:58 and Denver Post is now reporting that it was a rabid, anti-Semite, and white supremacist who, who really adored the Columbine shooters. His name was
Starting point is 01:39:12 Desmond Holly. His social media accounts were littered with references to mass shootings and anti-Semitic views. The sheriff's office
Starting point is 01:39:21 spokeswoman Jackie Kelly said Holly was radicalized through an extremist network. And in a photo post of the TikTok, Holly can be seen
Starting point is 01:39:30 in a black t-shirt with the word wrath emblazoned and red, a reference to the shirt that Columbine shooter Dylan Cleveland World War. His accounts, littered with Holocaust denialism,
Starting point is 01:39:41 which, of course, is pushed by folks like Nick Fuentes. One of recent account appears to have been in reference to a prominent white supremacist slogan, according to the Denver Post. His accounts included additional anti-Semitic videos, as well as videos, loving
Starting point is 01:39:58 Nazi uniforms, and on and on and on. That's the other shooting that happened that day. A crazed deranged, white boy on the right for all these folk who keep talking about black on black crime and that's all Charlie Kirk's last 24 hours of his Twitter feed was all about that whole deal I mean these people are going on and on and on and here they are here they are like mass shooting a mass shooting on the same day Charlie Kirk got shot two white boys
Starting point is 01:40:32 heterosexual not transgender Yeah, where's Nancy Mace now? Yeah, you know, Roland. Yeah, so this is really deep. Now, first of all, after the shooting in Utah, is Donald Trump going to send the National Guard into Utah, cut down, to deal with the crime problem and deal with the murders? I'm just curious. But we have to understand these people are grifters.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Nancy Mace, Nick Fuentes, all of you. all of them. These are grifters, okay? And when you look at Denester Sousa, the social media posts from him trying to blame a college for radicalizing Tyler Robinson. Now, he went for one semester in 2021, pre-engineering major. But remember back in 2016 when Donald Trump said he loves the uneducated? The reason why they love the uneducated is because they can continue to manipulate them, and they can continue to point to other people and say, that's the problem. That's why your Medicaid is being taken. Oh, we're trying to get rid of the undocumented immigrants on Medicaid, so we're going to kick these people off. That's why you're losing your job,
Starting point is 01:41:49 okay? This is what they're doing. And you mentioned January 6th, because I was going to mention this the first time around, you know, where was all the praying and talking about love and Jesus and forgiveness on January 6th. I ain't see any of that when they were attacking police officers and assaulted over 140 police officers. A lot of these people act like January 6th did not take place. That wasn't political violence. You know, they say the political violence is coming from the left. We never done anything like that. Attack the U.S. Capitol, try to overthrow the government. These people are crazy. These people are crazy. And they're going to to continue to fight one another,
Starting point is 01:42:33 and African Americans need to step back and let them fight each other. All I'm saying, y'all, more details are going to come out about Tyler Robinson, and it's not going to be good for the right wing. It's not going to be good for them at all. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:42:52 Y'all can't blame black people. Y'all can't blame the left. Y'all can't blame trans. y'all can't blame feminist y'all can't blame y'all can't blame you're going to have to get that big
Starting point is 01:43:08 ass mirror and look at yourselves and look at again let me remind people they're calling this guy a groeper that's Nick Fuentes' group this is the same Nick Fuentes who Kanye West
Starting point is 01:43:23 took to eat a meal with Donald Trump at Marlarko. These people are eating their own and they're losing it because they can't blame it on the left because there's nothing about Tyler Robinson
Starting point is 01:43:43 that yells Democrat, progressive. And now they're trying to spin it. He was radicalized in college. Nope, bad dog just ain't going to hunt. Let me thank my panel, Candice, Matt, Michael, for being on today's show. Thank you so very much.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Folks, I'm going to go to a break. We come back. I'm going to chat with Roland Parrish, Black McDonald's operator, as well as the philanthropist here in Dallas. He held a celebrity golf tournament today. Talked about black business and giving back. That's next. Roland Martin unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network.
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Starting point is 01:45:41 Of course, he's unfiltered. Would you expect anything less? Watch what happens next. You're used up. Folks, I'm here in Dallas where Roland Parrish, who has been a long-time Black McDonald's owner-operator, held his annual golf tournament benefiting his Parrish Family Foundation charity, supporting a lot of local efforts here in Dallas. We talked about that, talked about the importance of being a black business only.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Here is our conversation. All right, folks, I'm here in Dallas for the older Paris Celebrity Golf Tournament. That's why I'm hanging here. This is the man himself. First of all, great name. Outstanding. Outstanding name. That's right.
Starting point is 01:46:40 And first of all, for the folks, we'll get to the foundation, but we're playing. So tell everybody where we're playing. We're playing at the golf club of Dallas. This used to be the place in like last century, 30s, 40s, 50, 60s. This is where the PGA play. This is where the PJ, this was the number one club in Dallas. Okay, but let's be real clear. They played here.
Starting point is 01:47:03 We couldn't play here. Right. And in fact, Coma Cottrell, founder ProLine, always told the famous story. He told me this. So he bought a house here right off the course, and they came to him to let him know that there wasn't no black people allowed. But there was a brother who worked at the course who made some great barbecue. So if he wanted some great barbecue, he could get with his brother to get some barbecue.
Starting point is 01:47:31 And Como's like, I don't give a damn by playing golf with y'all. And so he always told that story. And so now to know that story and to know the history and to now know that this course is black-owned, that says something. Hey, it says a lie. And just to let you know, I read my history on Coma Cottrell, a man who started, I think he was a teenager. He started selling chickens or something. He was in California. how he came to Dallas, became a part owner of the Texas Rangers, you know, in addition
Starting point is 01:47:58 to his, I think he was one of the appro-sheem, pro-line. He was something. He was pro-line. He was the founder of Pro-Line. So all y'all remember the Jerry Curl? That's right. That was Coma-Cuttrell. And he was the one responsible for moving Bishop College from Waco to Dallas.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Correct. And so again, so it was interesting when they told me about the tournament, about you guys buying And was bought, purchased, win? About two, three years ago by Pastor Tony Evans, formerly of Oak Cliff Ibel Fellowship, Black-owned. And so we wanted to keep it in the community. In fact, Senator Royce West has told me last year, he said, you keep it in the community.
Starting point is 01:48:37 You know, we keep it real, we sell out. We could probably go somewhere else and give more cards. But, hey, look at this beautiful. It's beautiful, Black-owned. And I'm pro-black business. I mean, I'm just pro-black business, man. I mean, can I throw us that out? Yeah, it's my show.
Starting point is 01:48:53 I ain't got to ask nobody. So $100,000 spent in the black community, excuse me, spent in the Anglo community will last about 16 days. In the Jewish community, about 19 days. In the Asian community, 30 days. $100 or $1,000 spent retail in the black community is six hours. Six hours. Maggie Anderson's book, Our Black Year. That's where I got to step from.
Starting point is 01:49:21 And so we've got to build black business. I mean, that's how we're going to get equity and equality and enjoy the American change. But we also talk about building black business. What I am always talking about is we have to build black business capacity. You know, when there were 2.9 million black-owned businesses, this is pre-COVID. 2.8 million only had one employee. Right. Doing an average revenue less than $100,000.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Correct. And I said, look, that's sole proprieties. I said, and so the thing I'm always talking about is capacity. And I'll be do that. For you, when did you first start? I started in 1989. In fact, Roland, I opened on June 10th, 1989, and I was so busy.
Starting point is 01:50:02 But I mean, not because we're doing such big business. You know, you open up a business, you know, they're calling you from everywhere, rolling this, rolling that, rolling this. I didn't even realize it was Juneteenth. And I started the logo some years later, and I put at the bottom, opened June 10, and I think that was open.
Starting point is 01:50:18 It was open. I think I was sent to the hood. If people know about Pleasant Grove, if you're a... What was the business? It was in McDonald's. That was your first one. First one. And it was in a black neighborhood, but it was the kind of neighborhood I grew up in in Gary and Hammond, Indiana. And so I fit in with the people. And here's Heather with the weather. Well, it's beautiful out there, sunny and 75, almost a little chilly in the shade. Now, let's get a read on the inside of your car. It is hot. You've only been parked a short time, and it's already 90. degrees in there. Let's not leave children in the back seat while running errands.
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Starting point is 01:51:08 to Las Vegas. Vegas. September 19th and 20th. On your feet. Streaming live only on Hulu. Ladies and gentlemen. Brian Adams. Ed Sherin. Fade. Glorilla. Jelly Roll, John Fogarty, Lil Wayne, L.L. Cool J, Mariah Carey, Maroon 5, Sammy Hagar, Tate McCrae, The Offsprin, Tim McRaw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today. AXS.com. I always say I learned the preachers, the principals, the teachers, the gang leaders, the drug, the drug dealers. And I was respected because I was trying to do things in the community. I brought Ronald McDonald's to the hood to the schools, to the schools.
Starting point is 01:51:52 And my customers would come in and say, thank you. Because the kids came on and said, we saw Ronald McDonald today. What? We saw Ronald McDonald. He came to your school. Yeah. Why? Mr. McDonald's did it.
Starting point is 01:52:03 I was Mr. McDonald's. And so you started that first one in June, 19, 1989, and go on to have, what, 27? I peaked at 27. Right. And the thing is, I just talked to a young guy here. He just bought two restaurants. He just got a McDonald's system, and I told him, hey, one, live beneath your means. Be good to your people.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Your people are your greatest asset. Develop an incentive program for them and give back to the community. You just can't take out of the community. You've got to put something back in the community. And the verse I use, the pillar of my organization, both the business and the charity is Luke 1248. To whom much is given, much is required. And you've had a pick of, I mean, how many employees under you? 1400 at max. That's a lot. That's a whole lot. And one of the things that I'm always,
Starting point is 01:52:53 you said something that's important that you said live below your means. And what I'm always trying to explain to people is I'm not interested in flossing. I'm not interested in flashing. I said because the goal is not to have a business for two, three, four, five years, but to have longevity. because if business goes out of business, that's employees, that's family. That's people can't send their kids to college. And so my whole deal is, it's like we had a discussion about Uncle Nearest and Pinky Codden. I said, listen, I said, first rule, watch the money. Second rule, watch the person who watched the money.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Okay. I said, that's my first rule. And I just tell people, I said, I don't give a damn about the biggest car, the biggest house, whatever. I say this really, what are you building? And you're building something that's people-oriented. Yeah, when you mentioned that court, it reminds me of a book, Succeeding Against Dives by John Sratson. And when he started his first business, which is his Negro Digest,
Starting point is 01:53:54 the bookkeeper's office was next to his office. And then when he moved to Michigan Avenue, you know, Ebony Jet, big time, on Michigan Avenue in Chicago, she was not a treasurer, but her office was next to his. Right. When I work for Exxon Corporation, 800 Bell Avenue at the U.S. headquarters, the executives were on the 42nd floor, the Treasury Department was on the 41st floor. So what I do is every morning, ever since I opened in 1989, it first started with the phone
Starting point is 01:54:21 to get the balance, and then it moved to the ATM to go get the balance, and now it's with the computer. Because I check my balances, not because I love money, but you've got to manage the money. So listen, I have with my bank, so there are five. accounts one personal for business I don't even look at person I might pay bills I don't even look but I know exactly what's in those other four right and I'm just like you every day hold up what's that dip okay I see what was paid I mean I don't play that and I tell you I say look I watch the expenses like
Starting point is 01:54:55 a heart and it's just like my bookkeeper they send me all I said listen y'all can send me all these spreadsheets explaining me how I work I said I believe in inflow outflow. How much we're spending every month I got to know how much I got to make every month. I keep it real simple. Hey man, that's another thing
Starting point is 01:55:16 that it's about simple because there's probably like 40 line items on a profit in loss statement. And two that I really tell my people to manage the most because they're over 60% of your expenses is food and labor. Your food costs, pay for costs, and your labor.
Starting point is 01:55:32 And I said, if we'll manage those, will be okay. You know, get to teach your customers right. It's a lot of rules of business, but I don't want to make it complicated where we're going into depth into all 50 lineouts. It's like, hey, these are the two major. Let's make sure we can work though. And obviously, that's the business side of what you're doing. But what you're doing on the community side is critically important as well. So talk about this, this foundation, and how you really are about connecting with the community, the schools. Talk about the track, the schools that you also supported.
Starting point is 01:56:04 We begin the program today. The first thing I could give a shout out to Dr. Harry Robinson. He was the founder of the Dallas African American Museum. And I remember he came to me the Black Sports Hall of Fame where they recognized sports figures who either grew up in Texas, born in Texas who played in Texas. And it was either Free Tolle or Pepsi pulled away at the last minute. Now this is a Fortune 500 company. The sponsorship for the actual inductees, they pulled.
Starting point is 01:56:28 And he came to me rolling. I said, Dr. Robinson, I said, I'm... I think I had maybe like eight restaurants. I said, I can't afford that. He gave me a layaway plan. He gave me a layaway plan. So I've been doing that now for like 15 years. That was my first time I branced outside of Pleasant Grove.
Starting point is 01:56:45 He said, you can contribute this, but you can just pay on it. Yeah, pay them. So if any of you out there remember layaway, that's what it did. Right. And so that really started, like, moving outside of Pleasant Grove. And then things were fall in my lap. Something really relevant. Something, Shakira Richardson, Olympic star sprinter.
Starting point is 01:57:10 She, track is heavy. Summer track is heavy in Dallas. But you see the kids on the corner with the Cups, buy the stoplights, collecting money, so they can send people to the national championships. And I just said, hey, guys, pick 10 teams from the southern sector, let me give them $5,000 apiece. That's $50,000.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Now, we ended up having a track meeting and having a lot of fun, But we did that. Chris Bosch story. Chris Bosch? Yep. Played with LeBron. So Chris Bosch and Lincoln won the national championship somewhere around 2002. I get a phone call down in Pleasant Grove.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Mrs. Bosch is mine. Can we have a car watch? I was like, Mrs. Bosch, if you were up in North Dallas, you would not have to have a car watch. So what we did was basically I got 10, five businessmen, to give $2,000 a piece, and we got the team to sign basketballs. Now, they've got basketballs with Chris Byshe's name, which he was one of team members. And so five basketballs, $2,000 a piece, and the rings only cost $10,000.
Starting point is 01:58:17 And so you can think of ways... The cost of the car watch and get them championship rings. That's what it was for. Right. But instead of doing a car wash, it's like you and your moms don't have to come out and watch cars. Give us 10 basketballs and signatures. We'll give you $10,000. And we did it to the right way.
Starting point is 01:58:34 And so they got raised. But see, this is the point that I explain to people who really don't understand. When I hear people, they talk about, you know, oh, D-9, who lay, we don't know what y'all doing. I'm like, no, you have no idea how many people are supporting community-based organizations every single day. We talk about black-owned businesses doing those very things. And you're right. It's not major corporations. Major corporations are not.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Many corporations are not cutting those checks. And so our community, the backbone of our community, has been these small, mid-sized business owners doing those very things. And then that, of course, is paying it forward for that next generation. Right. You're correct. And really, small businesses are the backbone of our society, you know, even if you're when you move away from black business.
Starting point is 01:59:24 And then black businesses, there's a stat something like two-thirds of all businesses, small businesses fell in the first year, and then another half fell in the first five years. years. So I'm very appreciative to God. Of course, blue collar work ethic, love good parents, good genes, knowing the financial part of the business, I've been able to flourish. And with that Malachi Old Testament 310, it's like, I want to give back. I'm going to make sure we take care of the orphans, the widows, the underserved. And he says he'll pour you out a blessing that you won't have room to receive. And Roland, I got to tell you, man, there's been some awards and blessings that are shouted upon me. And I know it's Malachi 310. I know it's my name. I know it's
Starting point is 02:00:01 Malachi 310. So we're going to keep on doing it. Well, we're going to keep on doing it. And so if there are people, now, grant, it's the Parrish Family Foundation, but there's somebody out there who wants to support the foundation work. Where do they go? Yeah, and you know what? I'll give this. If you really feel so moved, you could go to our website, Parrish Family Foundation. It's actually the ParrishFoundation.org. And it's really a fun website to look at. And my son manages it, and it's a fun, it's a fun website. We've got some cool stuff on there. But we really don't hear it.
Starting point is 02:00:31 have where you can send money and if you see see i see y'all see he's so kind but again you never know who out there somebody who's like man i love what y'all doing how can i support okay i would say at least an email on that roland i think we finally put an email on day okay y'all so if y'all some of y'all may want somebody may want to say man i love work they're doing go to parish parish foundation.org pyrish foundation dot orrg ain't no donate button uh um But find the email, and then you can send the email. But at least put a donate button on there. Because you never know.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Right, right. Yeah, we're going to do that. We're going to do that. I appreciate it. And I always want to say this on there. I've tried to give Mr. Barron. You know, like Mike and Mike, when you said, the Mike and Mike show, rolling and rolling, rolling.
Starting point is 02:01:22 So whatever he has for website, send it in and say you should have the Rolling and Rolling show. We could do sports, we could do history, whatever you want to talk about. Rolling and Rollin. And you can be the first. And you got to understand, I own it, so I ain't got to ask nobody. And have to ask anybody? All right, so. So when do I show up?
Starting point is 02:01:38 When do I show up? See, all right, when you get a phone call, you better be ready, say, Mike and Mike has nothing on us. Rolling and rolling. Okay. When he gets the call, he'll be like, oh, yeah, you weren't joking how. Okay, I'm going to let you know. All right, okay. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:01:53 Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Bye now. All right, folks. Now, the golf tournament was being hosted, co-coasted by my girl radio show host Lady Jade.
Starting point is 02:02:09 Now, she recently started playing golf, and any time she posts one of her golf videos on Instagram, she'll get a text from me with a critique. And so, you know, I had to ask her, but what's that with her swing? All right, y'all, we're out on the golf course. So, y'all, this is Jade. So, you, the queen of getting my text messages when you post your swing.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Let me just say something. Roland is my online golf coach. I know that any time I post anything about golf, my phone is going to be like, ding, see what the problem is. That's what you're going to tell me. He's going to see me about a thousand Amazon links. You need to work on this. She need to work on this. So just know, when I get good, because of that man right now.
Starting point is 02:02:56 And I tell her. I'm like, look, get your grip, get your stance. Y'all understand. She'll post a video, and I'll be like, girl, come on now. Come on, let's work on. Let's get the grip, get the stance. I'm not trying to be cute. He's like, absolutely not. Right, but she's what she y'all, she keeps trying to hit that driver. See, that's the problem. See, she want to be shot called a big baller. And I'm like, Jay, put that damn driver down. That's the one for me. Because I feel like, you know, let me not even. Hold on. Give us your stands. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Give us your stance. Over here, look, I almost pigeons off. See, I'm going to tell you, see, right now y'all, her stand. Now, her stance is fine.
Starting point is 02:03:31 Way too much tension in her arms. Relax the arms, see? Way too much tension. See, right there. See, y'all, this is the kind of text message she'll get. I'll be like, too much tension. I'm like too much tension. It's because I'm nervous.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Right, she nervous. Always some good time at the golf course, and so it was great to see everybody. Of course, I spent a considerable amount of time here in Dallas at, of course, with our telegram, KKDA radio, news director morning anchor, also managing editor of the Dallas Weekly. And so saw Tim Brown out there, Pro Football Hall of Famer, Ed Tuttle Jones, Everson Walls. Everson almost hit entire group. You know I had to crack on him, but it was great seeing him. Eugene Lockhart, former University of Houston Star, who also played for the Cowboys. So a lot of people, a lot of Alpha brothers out there
Starting point is 02:04:24 And so it was great to see everybody out there Raising money for the parish family foundation Shout out to Tosca Midlock for hooking me up Inviting me to the tournament So it was absolutely fabulous So I will not be back in studio on Monday Because I will be in Rhode Island My man, Jeffrey Osborne is having his Celebrity Golf Classic
Starting point is 02:04:42 And y'all know it's always fun You know I've come back with some great stuff You know it's going to be some singing There's going on So I'll be live from Rhode Island Monday and Tuesday for the Jeffrey Osborne Celebrity Golf Classic and folks, that's it for us. I appreciate all of y'all for watching the show,
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