#RolandMartinUnfiltered - KY Cop Kills Desman LaDuke, UT Sheriff Deputy's Lasso, AZ Voter Threats, Dyslexia Awareness Month
Episode Date: October 29, 202210.28.2022 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: KY Cop Kills Desman LaDuke, UT Sheriff Deputy's Lasso, AZ Voter Threats, Dyslexia Awareness Month Another young black man in crisis is killed. This time a Nichola...sville, Kentucky cop shot and killed 22-year-old Desman LaDuke after his family called for a wellness check believing he was suffering from a mental health crisis. In Utah, a sheriff's deputy walks the streets searching for Black shoplifting suspect with a lasso, and it's all on bodycam video. I'll talk to Black Lives Matter Utah Chapter Operating Chairperson about the incident that has folks in Grand County talking. As record-breaking early voting totals continue, we'll talk about how right-wing extremists are intimidating Arizona voters. Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is caught with a hot mic expressing his concerns for the midterm election. Nancy Pelosi's husband gets viciously attacked by a man who authorities say was looking for the House Speaker. In our Education Matters segment, it's Dyslexia Awareness Month. We'll examine how proficient reading levels dictate who will and will not graduate from high school. RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered Venmo ☛https://venmo.com/rmunfiltered Zelle ☛ roland@rolandsmartin.com Annual or monthly recurring #BringTheFunk Fan Club membership via paypal ☛ https://rolandsmartin.com/rmu-paypal/ Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered,
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another young black man in crisis,
shot and killed by police.
We'll tell you what happened in Kentucky. In Utah, why is a sheriff's officer roaming the streets
looking for a black shot-lifting suspect with a lasso?
We'll talk with Black Lives Matter Utah about that.
In Phoenix, voter intimidators actually win in court.
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Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer
caught on a hot mic talking about the election prospects
for Democrats in Pennsylvania and Georgia.
Also, the husband of Speaker Nancy Pelosi
is brutally attacked in their home
by a right-wing extremist who was looking for
Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
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Folks, the latest example of mental health going wrong.
In Kentucky, folks, this took place on Saturday. Desmond LaDuke was in a mental health going wrong. In Kentucky, folks, this took place on Saturday.
Desmond LaDuke was in a mental health crisis.
According to reports, police were called because he threatened to harm himself.
It took his aunt about an hour to get to the scene.
When she arrived, cops from Nicholsville, Kentucky Police Department,
with drawn guns and assault rifles, surrounded the house.
The video, folks, we're about to show you was recorded by a neighbor
moments before an officer fired through the home,
striking Desmond entered the home.
Todd Justice, the police chief of the Nicholasville, Kentucky Police Department, said,
It is always difficult for family members in our community when a tragic event like this occurs.
Our officers do their best in difficult situations like this
with immediate threats to the safety of themselves and others.
The family says that did not happen and released this statement.
There have been very limited information released regarding the circumstances of Saturday.
Much of what has been said is false, and the police have done nothing to correct it.
Desmond was alone in his home inside his bedroom when he was shot through
the bedroom window by a police officer positioned outside the home. Any suggestions that officers
made entry to Desmond's home were threatened inside the home by Desmond and shot Desmond
from inside the home are false. Nothing has been said about Desmond's character, his kind nature,
and the type of person he was. Everyone who knew Desmond was familiar with his amazing personality. DESMOND'S CHARACTER, HIS KIND NATURE, AND THE TYPE OF PERSON HE WAS. EVERYONE WHO KNEW DESMOND WAS FAMILIAR WITH HIS AMAZING PERSONALITY.
DESMOND WAS A RUNNING BACK DURING EAST JESSE MEANS MAGICAL 2016 DISTRICT TITLE RUN.
HE WAS A HARD WORKER.
HE WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR ANYONE.
HE HAD NO CRIMINAL RECORD.
WE HAVE HAD HIS FORMER TEACHERS, FRIENDS, AND CO-WORKERS OF DESMOND REACH OUT TO US
SINCERITY TO SHARE THEIR MEMORIES MADE WITH HIM.
THEY ARE ALL POSITIVE AND FULL OF LOVE, UNSELFISHNESS, AND JOY.
DESMOND LIVED THROUGH A LOT OF TRAGEDY AND STR a lot of tragedy and struggle. He lost his mom to a car accident in 2011.
He lost his brother to a drowning three years ago. So understandably, certain days were really hard
for Desmond to cope with these losses. On Saturday, Desmond was struggling with a desire to live.
We asked the police to help him. They responded by sending the SWAT ERT unit. Nine different officers
in tactical gear promptly surrounded Desmond's home
and pointed assault rifles at the doors and windows.
Patrol officers remained across the street.
The woman who had raised Desmond since his mother's passing arrived on the scene.
She begged and pleaded for the SWAT unit to stand down.
She insisted that she be allowed to go into the home to talk to Desmond,
to hug him and to tell him that everything would be okay.
This request was not only denied, but also came with a direct warning to Melissa that she would be tackled if she tried to go talk to her son.
After an hour and a half, while Desmond was inside his home by himself, an officer shot through his bedroom window.
The bullet struck Desmond in the chest.
Officers made entry and then proceeded to drag Desmond across the ground, through the bedroom,
the hallway, the living room, and the kitchen.
Officers left the heavy trail of blood
on the floor for the family to discover
hours later. When close to 20 officers
were inside the home, and as Desmond
was dying on the kitchen floor, other officers
entered yelling, show me your fucking hands
to him, and yelling at him that
it was his fault. The remaining officers
stood around as if nothing had happened.
Four hours after Desmond was taken by EMS to UK Hospital, he died.
We were devastated, confused, angry, frustrated, heartbroken, and struggling in sincerity.
Nobody from the police department has come to express condolences.
Nobody has given us any answers as to why they took Desmond's life.
Desmond needed help.
He did not harm anyone.
He was alone in his home.
Nine rifles being pointed at his doors and windows by officers in tactical gear did not do anything
to defuse what was an obvious mental health crisis. A tactical kill shot through a window
and into Desmond's chest was not the solution. We are grateful for all of those in the community
who have shared the great memories they made with Desmond, and we urge everyone to help us
get an understanding as to why Desmond was taken from us. The silence is killing us.
Folks, we spoke to his aunt, Melissa Marks. She declined our invitation to appear on the
show tonight as we prepare for Desmond's funeral tomorrow. My panel, Michael Imhotep, hosts
the African History Network show, Dr. Larry J. Walker, assistant professor, University
of Central Florida, Dr. Cleo Manago, social architect, chief advisor, Black Men's Exchange. Glad to have all three of you here.
Cleo, I'll start with you.
I mean, this is, we've done so many of these stories.
And when it's an obvious mental health crisis, you don't send cops with guns.
You send mental health experts.
Well, if I'm not mistaken, the family called the cops.
And it's not a good idea to call the cops
when a mental health crisis is occurring,
particularly when it's a black male central to the crisis.
So this is just another one of those situations
where the cops are gonna say there was a live gun in the presence of them, and they had to defuse it the best way they could.
And that's going to be the explanation. I'm not sure the family will be able to talk any kind of
support into being from the police department because the young man indeed had a gun. Now,
they know more about the young man's state of mind than the police do.
So they came to do what police do, to defuse the situation by any means necessary. So, yes,
very unfortunate. And unfortunately, this mostly happens to men who are dark-skinned or who are
not white, which clearly shows a bias in people's impulses. So it's another tragic story. As you
know, it's one of hundreds that we know about.
However, again, I think the cops are going to say
that there was a live gun
and that a person was emotionally or mentally unstable.
As far as they're concerned,
it means they were in particular danger
because they didn't know what kind of state of mind he was in
and what he was going to ultimately do.
So they infuse it the ultimate way.
However, police need to stop being so abusive.
I mean, they murdered him and then they dragged him around
and his last days were highly traumatizing.
And it's just a terrible situation to imagine.
However, there was a gun involved
and that will be the focus of the police.
What jumps out at me is,
I want to see if there's body cam footage.
I want to see if the cops were correct
in that they breached the home,
as opposed to firing through the window,
which raises the question,
why would you be firing through a window
if he was home, inside the home, alone?
If he was not, if no one was inside that home,
and he wasn't threatening or harming anyone, what is the rationale for firing a weapon through a bedroom window?
Right. Who was that question for? Larry. OK.
Well, and this is rinse and repeat on these situations regarding revolving black folks and, you know, whether they're in mental health crisis or having other challenges. And, you know, my colleague was talking about, you know, what members of the black community
call law enforcement. The reality is there aren't a lot of options, and there particularly aren't a
lot of options if there's an under-resourced community. You know, I'm not familiar with
area in Kentucky, but, you know, whether it's urban, rural, suburban area, sometimes you don't
have the necessary resources to deal with mental health crisis. The real question is in terms of how law enforcement decided to end this crisis was to shoot him from outside of the home.
This makes no sense.
It's clearly if he's in the house by himself, he's only a threat to himself.
And law enforcement should have taken the time to wait him out or let someone from the family talk to him
in an overextended period of time to just talk him down. But taking this young man's life,
by saying he's obviously a threat, but you're outside of the home and then you shoot him,
it just doesn't make any sense. And this also goes to this idea of how we properly train law
enforcement. First of all, A, to see the humanity when it comes to Black folks' humanity. Second of all, in terms of taking the time to understand the individuals when they're
in mental health crisis, that there are a lot of things going through their mind. And obviously,
you read the statement in terms of all the tragedies you dealt with over the last several
years. But once again, this is rinse and repeat also when it relates to these statements that
law enforcement put out, when they kind of blanket statements and say, you know, they want to protect the community.
But the bottom line is when you create, when you commit these kind of acts,
particularly against black folks, the members of the black community,
other minoritized populations don't feel safe.
So it's really important, once again, we get to the bottom of this,
and my condolences to his family.
Michael, we've seen so many other stories like this,
and I think a lot of times what happens is cops are involved in this, and they're sick and tired of this thing going on and on and on,
lasting an hour and a half. They want to shut it down. We've seen other examples, same thing,
where they were upset with how long the situation and then, oh, you know what, let's shoot to kill.
But I just, if you're the police chief, again, I just keep saying to people over and over and over again, death is final.
Right.
This isn't shot in the leg, wounded.
It's death.
Can't come back from that.
Exactly.
So shooting someone to death should be absolute last resort in any situation.
Yeah, absolutely.
And this is an example of why some people should definitely not be police officers.
But in reading the article from ABC Channel 6 and watching the video segment from the news broadcast, two negotiators from the crisis negotiation team were dispatched. And it appears from the reports that there were negotiations that were
going on for close to two hours, but somehow the negotiations deteriorated. And what I'm trying to
find out is, okay, so how did it go from the negotiations deteriorating with the two crisis
negotiators? How did it go from that to him being shot and killed?
There's still a lot in reviewing this story, there's still a lot that's missing here.
And along with the two negotiators, the special response team was deployed also.
So I'm trying to figure out how did it go from them trying to negotiate with him, and these are trained negotiators, how did it go from that to him ending up dead and an officer shooting through the window?
And he's apparently in the house by himself.
So, you know, something doesn't add up here.
I don't know if this is a case that the Department of Justice will pick up.
It sounds like
maybe there's one they should investigate. But yeah, this is another example why, you know,
some people should not be police officers at all. Look, I don't care if a standoff lasts eight
hours. Right. Death is death. It's finality. And I would rather spend eight, ten hours trying to defuse the situation, utilizing the family as best as you can to do so, than to kill somebody.
And I think that really has to be the state of mind with a lot of these police departments.
And this is also why when people get mad when they hear defund police, one of the things they talk about is shifting resources away from, you know, lethal action to mental health services.
But folks never seen anyone to deal with that.
Folks, got to go to a break.
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We're going to talk about what's happening in Utah.
Why is a sheriff's officer patrolling the streets looking for a black shoplifting suspect with a lasso?
Yeah.
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So in Utah, a white sheriff's deputy is caught captured on video looking for a black shoplifting suspect with a lasso.
She says that was easier and better than tasing him.
Watch this.
This is the view from a Grand County sheriff's deputy's body camera on July 10th.
It's rolling as Deputy Amanda Edwards pulls up to help Moab police look
for a man they claim ran from them. And that is a lasso. It's considered a utility tool
used by law enforcement here for stray livestock and even once in another county
helping rescue a man from a flood. How's it going guys? I'm looking for a gentleman that
took off running on us. But on this day, African American gentleman, Deputy Edwards has other plans.
That was my plan, man. I mean, it's better than running, right? As she explains to anyone who
asks. You gonna rope him? Might. It's better than running. Or taser, right? Less painful.
During the recording, Edwards says the man was suspected
of stealing sunglasses. Gray shorts African-American gentleman. They didn't find him but for about 35
minutes Deputy Edwards is seen twirling or carrying the rope as she interacts with the
public or other members of law enforcement. No I don't see him. One Grand County deputy
is heard raising concerns. That's gonna look really bad if you use that.
Turn your taser.
I've been waiting for this moment for quite some time.
While a Utah Highway Patrol trooper had this reaction.
Appreciate it.
We just need to get him on the run, like run now.
I don't take that as joking. Like to me it comes back to a matter of professionalism.
Grand County Sheriff Stephen White says it was an email from a local journalist that triggered
an internal affairs investigation. White says what you see in this video violates department
policy. That was not an approved apprehension tool. It was not you know it's just and it
shouldn't have been brought out. He told us Edwards was disciplined but would not provide specific details.
He said their investigation determined race was not a factor.
And then there's no indications of any of that.
White says Edwards is a good deputy who made a mistake.
I think she's owned up to that mistake.
Well, she called it a joke. Do you think that's owning up to it?
She's owned up to it.
So what does accountability look like what are you gonna say i'm not like way up with it
ray duckworth the operating chair for black lives matter utah jones is right now ray glad to have
you on the show so so the so the sheriff says oh she's owned up to it. But how the hell do you absolutely violate department policy with a lasso?
Well, like they said, that's a utility tactic tool, right?
And they use it for animals. So in that instance, in that body cam footage, she compared a black man
and approached him as if she would approach a loose cattle or a loose dog or a loose animal
running around the town. So if she violated policy by pulling out something that they don't
train to apprehend suspects with, well, if I violate a policy, I would be fired for it.
So that is what I think about that.
Has the sheriff met with any community leaders like yourself to discuss this?
Not that I'm not aware of that, no.
Nothing that I know of.
Have y'all sought a meeting?
You know, Mario Mathis, he went to Moab and protested outside of their door by himself.
He is also a black man.
He is also part of the chapter and also part of Utah's Black History Museum.
And he felt it to do so. So if they didn't take that opportunity to connect with a black man,
a local black man, an activist, a community member,
the door was open. The door is always open. What more do y'all want to see done?
Ooh, accountability. Just accountability. And I know that's like a tough thing, but it has to be more than her saying she was sorry and it was just a joke.
Carolyn Bryant, she was also joking and she's sorry.
And we don't have Emmett Till because of her nasty joke and her nasty apology.
So it does not equate for me as accountability. It does not.
She could absolutely do more.
Gotcha.
Well, this is certainly unfortunate and just another example of what we have to deal with
with some of these police officers on police forces all across the country.
Absolutely.
All right.
Ray, we appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Yeah, of course.
Thank you.
Larry, a lasso. That's a new one.
I don't I don't have the words, man. It just feels like every time we have a conversation about interaction with law enforcement,
there's something new to add that we would have never figured.
So a lasso isn't is a new one rolling. And so I'm confused. So first of all,
her wording of African-American gentleman, it just, every time she says it, I just get a
tightening of my heart because she's saying sarcastically. That's first of all. Second of all,
when the officer also says, I've been, essentially, I've been looking forward to using this. So she's
been visualizing
it. She's been thinking about it. And we know it historically when we talk about some law
enforcement officers historically have gotten these emails, et cetera, we've uncovered when
they've talked about, they've kind of visualized ways in which they could punish Black folks.
So that's the second thing. The third thing is when she spent 35 minutes walking around looking
for this gentleman and just kind of walking around, one of her colleagues wondered it. It's a bad look. And historically, they use it for
cows and pigs, whatever other kind of animals they use in Utah to capture with a lasso.
It just doesn't add up. And once again, this goes to the point I made earlier about
law enforcement not seeing Black folks as humanity. She's treating them like an animal,
considers them an animal,
and will lasso a human being
and tie them up, and I guess I don't know, drag
them. So, once again,
and she's not being properly punished.
She thinks it's a joke. She should be fired.
You can't have someone like that, you know,
driving a police car, you know, dealing
with members of the community. Where's the trust? There is
none. She should be fired.
Cleo, the other officers, hey, not a good look.
How about somebody say, hey, that's not acceptable in the Department of Policy.
Put it up.
About a year or two ago, you may remember that there were some Haitian citizens
who also experienced the lasso.
So this is the first time we've seen it maybe in recent years, but this has been done before.
What was interesting to me was the cliche narrative that someone said race was not a factor.
That's always interesting to hear. But my concern about this does not really
focus on, for example, the casual dismissal that the officer had when people kept telling her this
was not a good look. She was like, whatever, the whole time. I always go back to not the redundancy
of white mental illness and anti-Black behavior, but how Black people internalize this stuff.
And at the risk of sounding the way that I often sound, I wonder how Black parents in that area are engaging their children and that they're letting them know that that was wrong.
And that that cop suffered from a human corruption called racism
and that black people are not the problem.
Because that doesn't happen enough.
This is story number what?
1,000?
About a black man being disrespected or potentially disrespected by the police?
That's not a new phenomenon.
What I think needs to occur, because this is going to continue to occur,
is that black people need to start talking to their children about self-respect and self-defense.
Because white races are going to do what white races do.
And who knows, there may be a decrease in frequency, but this phenomenon is going to continue. and her casual dismissive attitude and her inability to even care
when people, including a colleague,
said, hey, this is not a good look for her to be sold.
She has backup in her culture
or else she wouldn't be doing this.
And it takes time to get a culture to change,
but people could defend themselves right now.
People can talk with their children
about this corruption that is
in society that has them thinking
that something's wrong with them
if their parents don't do that work that I'm talking about.
That's my concern because, as you
know, we've had this story many, many times.
But what are we going to do
to deflect the traumatic impact
on the lives of black people?
Michael?
Yeah, lassoes are not new.
It's something old.
And this, you know, reminds me of reading about lynchings
in the early 1900s in this country.
You know, the sheriff, Stephen White,
said that there was no indication that race was an issue.
So the question I would ask is, how many times has Sheriff Deputy Amanda Edwards used a lasso
to hunt to to corral or apprehend white suspects? I'm just curious. I would imagine the answer is zero.
So, and then you go and you read the story.
All this was over some allegedly stolen sunglasses.
I'm not saying, I'm not condoning stealing,
but wait a second.
You search for 35 minutes for somebody
that allegedly stole some sunglasses
and you're going to lasso them?
And then she said it's better than tasering them.
So you think you're going to have to taser somebody that allegedly stole some sunglasses?
So this is, you know, this is, I remember a science fiction movie from like the 1970s,
something like The Land That Time Forgot
or something like that.
These people living in the prehistoric
era, okay? When you research
Grand County, it's
only 1% black.
It's 89% white.
It's a population of
9,600 people.
It's only 1% black.
So,600 people, and is only 1% black. So, once again, this is something that makes no sense,
and some people just should not be police officers.
That's it. Simple as that.
All right, folks, got to go to a break.
When we come back, more on Roland Montt Unfiltered.
We'll talk about Speaker Nancy Pelosi,
her husband being brutally attacked by right-wing extremists
in their San Francisco home.
Why are Republicans acting like this is a joke? husband being brutally attacked by right-wing extremists in their San Francisco home.
Why are Republicans acting like this is a joke?
Hmm.
Shows you who they are.
And then, of course, Fox News.
Oh, my goodness.
Who should we blame on this?
Hey, let's blame President Biden.
Seriously.
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Folks, Democrat Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer says Senator Raphael Warnock is going
to be facing some headwinds in Georgia.
He was captured on a hot mic talking with President Joe Biden about the race between
Warnock and Hershel Walker, as well as John Fetterman and Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania.
Here is what was captured. and basically, we're picking up steam from the ground.
I didn't see one.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't see one.
I was at a conference.
Right.
I didn't see one.
Right.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one.
I didn't see one. I didn't see one. I didn't see one. I didn't see one. I didn't see it. Of course, they will not get it. It's hard to believe, but they will vote for her.
By the way, the work is now being done.
It's an art, yeah.
But our vote, our vote needs to go down to the ship.
Huge. Huge.
Now, I've talked to some folks out of Georgia.
They believe that Senator Chuck Schumer was doing that on purpose.
They say, look, oftentimes what you will see is you will see folks try to egg their base going by suggesting that they are losing, things are not going well.
Also, in Pennsylvania, there have been a couple of polls that have come out showing
Mehmet Oz actually having a 48-45 lead against Fetterman after the debate.
There's another poll that shows Fetterman is up 1.6%.
Now, when it comes to voting, some 17 million early voting ballots have already been cast all across the country.
And, folks, this has been a breakdown of the University of Florida's U.S. elections project.
As of Friday morning, the project counted 17,441,774 early votes, of which 11,109,257
were mail-in ballots returned and 6,332,517 were cast in person. 56 million mail-in ballots have been requested.
Now, even though the midterm elections have historically low participation
compared to presidential cycles, despite growing interest in recent years,
turnout in 2022 is still projected to be higher than usual for a midterm election.
Georgia has been breaking records as well. Now, in Arizona, you have an issue there
where you have some right-wing folks,
some militia folks who have been camping out, if you will,
at a mail drop box where they went to court
and they judge a rule that those folks cannot be removed
because it violates their constitutional protections.
Hmm, really?
Now, these extremist groups are showing up wearing fatigues,
brandishing guns, and following and filming voters.
Yeah, now this is critical because in Arizona,
you've got Democrat Katie Hobbs going against Republican Carrie Lake,
who is a vicious MAGA supporter.
She has been very loud and proud in saying she will not accept the
results of the election. She's not accepting the results of the 2020 election. And so that's what
you have going on there. Bottom line is this here, and I keep saying, folks, polling at this point
does not mean anything. Because one of the things that you have to look at when you talk about polls
is who is being sampled. And one of the, I'll give a perfect example,
in one of these polls, Tom Bonior, who is a Democrat,
he showed how in studying this one particular sample that
shows leading, one of the things that he said is that it
undersampled young voters around 14%,
even though in the last two election cycles they turned out 25, 28%.
Same thing when it comes to women voters.
And really, that's the thing right here, Michael.
You really can't say what's going to happen.
We saw what happened in Kansas when women turned out in significant numbers
and voted down that ban on abortion.
And so, look, if you have women voters turn out at a much higher rate
because of the Dobbs decision getting rid of Roe v. Wade,
if young voters turn out anywhere from 25%, 28%, 30%, 35%,
that could be very good for Democrats.
Absolutely.
You know, Bruce Lee used to say bricks don't hit back
when all the karate practitioners used to talk about how many bricks they can break, all that stuff.
He was like, that's irrelevant. Bricks don't hit back. Polls don't vote.
And, you know, polls, even though, you know, you have some pollsters who are tried and true and things like this, but polls are a way oftentimes for unqualified white people to get a check as well. OK, so if we look, for instance, I was looking I look at different news sources.
I was looking at Fox. I was looking at an article from Fox News today talking about African-American voters in Georgia.
Black voter turnout is up in Georgia as Stacey Abrams White House doubled down on voter suppression claims.
OK, so they're trying to throw that in there and say, oh, black voter turn up is up.
So it does it. So voter suppression is non-existent. But we see that according to figures from the United States election project,
black voters make up 30 percent of early votes cast so far in Georgia, up three percentage points from 20 up three percentage points from 27% in the 2020 presidential election.
So this is about messaging and turnout, messaging and turnout.
And one of the mistakes the Democrats made, even though Roe being overturned and abortion and women's reproductive rights,
even though that is extremely important, they should have been talking about the economy and inflation much earlier. They should have been drilling down
on that months ago. Number one, talking about how Democrats saved the economy with the $1.9
trillion American Rescue Plan that no Republicans in the House or the Senate voted for. Number two,
and explaining to people how it's helping them, how there was funding to open
up schools, how there was funding to hire more teachers, first responders, police officers,
things like this, OK, $46.5 billion in rental assistance for renters as well as landlords.
Then you have the CH Chips and Science Act. About 25 percent to one-third of inflationary
costs is because of the lack of microchips that are used for vehicles. So, we've seen the cost
of vehicles skyrocket. We have also seen the cost of rental cars increase as well.
Well, Democrats passed the Chips and Science Act, okay, which is going to bring back thousands of
manufacturing jobs and lower the cost of vehicles. Yes, some Republicans voted for it. I think it
may be 24 in, I think, maybe the House or something like that. But overwhelmingly,
they voted against it, okay? Then you have the Inflation Reduction Act. No Republicans in the
House or the Senate voted for the Inflation Reduction Act, and a lot of that goes into effect January 1, 2023, and it's going to help people save money.
It'll help seniors save money on the cost of insulin.
It'll lower the cost of energy for families, for their homes, things like this.
They should have been talking about the economic issue much earlier, because they're actually winning on the economic issue much earlier because they're actually winning on
the economic issue.
And, lastly, 54 percent of corporate profits are—54 percent of inflationary costs are
because of corporate profits, which is corporate greed.
They should have T-shirts with that on there.
Katie Porter nailed it, Democrat from California.
She nailed it.
That should be one of their leading arguments because Republicans
have no solutions to deal with inflation. And the New York Times has an article that just came out
in the past couple of days that talks about how experts are saying many of the policies that
Republicans are promoting will actually hurt the economy, harm the economy, and send us into a
recession. So it's about messaging and turnout at this point.
Well, I don't even think it's important about messaging right now. I think at the end of the day, Larry, what it is right now is you've got to go after who are your likely voters and get them
out to the polls. You've got to figure out where they are. You've got to convince them to come out.
And I keep telling people, I'm telling y'all right now, I'm going to use the hashtag we tried to tell you, I'm telling y'all right now, if you let
Republicans take control of the house and take control of the
senate, you're going to have problems.
I'm telling y'all right now, if Carrie lake wins in Arizona, if
Blake masters wins that senate seat in Arizona over mark Kelly,
y'all don't, what these people are going to unleash, because if these
right-wing MAGA people win, it's going to embolden them even further. And so Democrats and progressives
can't be playing games here. This ain't no time to be playing cute. And I love these people sitting
here. Oh, you just sitting here trying to
get folks to vote Democrat. Okay.
Okay. Mess around and find
out. Then you're going to be like,
oh my goodness, this actually happened?
Yeah, we told you.
We told you it was going to happen. Larry?
Right.
Roland, I've been in this game, this political game,
for a long time, and I really feel like
we talked about this a lot in your show.
You highlighted it just a few seconds ago.
It reminds me of the Marvel endgame with Thanos.
We're in political endgame in terms of some of these right-wing politicians you described,
many of whom want to get elected just here in 11 days.
So let's talk about a couple of important things.
My colleague talked about the Inflation Reduction Act.
We can certainly talk about the infrastructure bill, student, you know, what the White House this is one of the things that, beyond policy issues, racial identity, we know that the opinions of whites in this country have become more and more radicalized over the last several years.
So many of these folks don't even care about whether you're reducing inflation or, once again, they're getting some student loan relief.
What they're really focused on is racial identity and racial demographic shift and political power. That's
what this is ultimately about. This is certainly not about democracy. And that's why I mentioned
your book, White Fear. So it's really important that, once again, Roland, we do get our folks out
to vote. I think, once again, in Georgia, like Black folks did two years ago, they're going to
come out and save the day. Once again, Black folks save democracy. But the bottom line is,
in the future, especially in the 2024 world,
we're going to have to make sure that the Democratic Party is putting money into shows
like your show and other black platforms to make sure that we're galvanizing members of the black
community, not at the last minute, not in the last 30 days or two weeks, but throughout the year.
But we don't see that. And that's why I think when you talk about that, it's really so important.
That's how we galvanize people, by constantly having consistent, concise messaging.
And we don't always see that from the Democratic Party.
And what we do see from Republican Party is a lot of lies and disinformation.
So to counter that, we have to consistently have some tight messaging and make sure black platforms get the information out to the community.
Look, Cleo, you emboldened these MAGA people.
Oh, it's going to get worse.
This is absolutely white nationalism on the ballot.
It is exactly how they are voting.
So let's not even be, even sitting here and sugarcoat this.
And so I get folks, I get amazing,
it's amazing to me when folks go,
well, you know,
I just think that you're just oversimplifying this.
And I'm like, are you actually paying attention?
Because I hear what they're saying.
Right.
I see what they say they want to do, and I'm going to go, all right,
let's see how that ends up for us.
But, you know, if folks want to play games, go right ahead, Cleo.
Well, like you said earlier, Roland,
it's too early to depend on polls to get the real answers,
but it's never too early to manipulate.
And what was happening in that conversation with Biden
was an attempt to manipulate and talk in ways that imply something that hopefully
the people who he cares about voting will get.
But that's a problem, though, in that the white supremacists are blatant, and we are
— well, not me, but a lot of people who are in the Democratic Party, et cetera, are
tiptoe and are not as blatant as the white supremacists
are. I agree with the colleague who mentioned that we should start understanding that this is
racial issues here and that white power is trying to make a comeback. But I don't know if we're
making that clear to black people. Roland, you mentioned earlier that folks are saying that you are an advocate, or some people
have even used the word hack, for the Democratic Party.
Instead of looking at you as an advocate for people being in power who can help black people,
they're simply focused on Democrat, Republican.
I think there needs to be more language about the importance of Black people
having power and Black people seeking power and Black people feeling like they deserve power
and that they're worthy of power. I think those kind of languages need to be inside of
any kind of people's position who are against white supremacy instead of simply being about Republican and Democrat. We need to be as blatant
about that we're concerned about black people having collective power. I'm not talking about
individuals with money and tokens. I'm talking about collective power as part of our political
positioning and our political banter. And a lot of that's not happening. But I really appreciated that Texas commercial that
you played, because the system was straight up about Black Voters Matter, and they are taking
a position that underscores the relevance of race. But I don't see enough of that.
But I reiterate that, yes, it is too early for polls to be dependent on. And right now,
these are optical manipulations to get people to make decisions. But the Democrats need to be less cryptic and more blatant, particularly if it's supposedly against white supremacy.
Well, it's a perfect example. You got some idiot called Salt Gang Boxing on our YouTube channel.
He goes, I hope the Democrats lose across the board. They that we see a whole lot from these people.
I saw a video earlier, this dumbass, Phillip Scott, with Africa Diaspora News.
I don't know.
This fool out of Houston, I think.
And he then, he tried to trash black lives,
black voters mad about saying,
oh, they nothing but a Democrat front group.
Now, they out here doing the work,
galvanizing black people, speaking to the issues.
But fools like this, and see, and what these are,
these are indeed anti-black operatives.
Let me say it again, anti-black operatives. Let me say it again.
Anti-black operatives.
And what they try to do, they try to say, oh, no, no, no.
We're advocating for black people regardless of party.
Okay, let's lay it out on the table.
How many black people are most affected by diabetes and the cost of insulin?
Which party tried to cap insulin at $35?
Democrat or Republican?
Democrat.
But which party made that relevant to black people in very blatant ways?
What are you talking about? More black people, black people have a higher incident rate of diabetes.
And so when they tried to cap it at $35, Democrats voted for it.
Republicans voted against it.
They voted against it.
So, I mean, so.
I'm real clear about what you're saying in terms of diabetes.
What I'm saying is I think what you're saying is correct,
so I don't think I'm being dismissive,
but I also think there's some black people
who just ain't buying it,
not unless it's explicitly affirming of black people.
Okay, hold up.
But here's what I don't understand.
Okay, but no, no, that's not abstract.
If your grandmother and your grandfather and your
mama and your daddy got diabetes,
you know damn well how much that insulin cost.
I mean, so you need somebody
to actually say, hey, black person,
if we kept insulin
at $35, that's helping
big mama. I mean, at some point,
some people got to use their brain.
If insulin
is costing $400 a month and trying to cap at $35, that actually helps your big mama.
I think that this society provides tons of distractions, tons of things that get in the way of black common sense and black clear thinking.
And I always talk about the trauma trance that black people are in, and that trauma trance can derail the capacity to be cognitively logical about what makes the
most sense. You know yourself that sometimes it's hard just to get black people to the table,
not because we're defective people, but there's these trauma situations that get in the way
and cause paralysis and cause us to have blinders. And sometimes we do need a message like, Big Mama has diabetes.
If you want to deflect that as a generational curse,
vote for so-and-so.
Sometimes we need messages that break through the trance
that are very, very clearly affirming of Black
and speaking to the specifics of the Black experience.
Because some people just don't buy it.
And they look at people as taking sides.
And I told you some time ago that blackness in and of itself
is not enough of a calling card anymore in many cases
to get black people to be supportive of a Democrat or Republican.
People are trying to have power.
So if in the last two years the federal government gave HBCUs
four times as much funding,
then these states are actually funding these HBCUs four times as much funding than these states are actually funding these HBCUs.
Do we just dismiss that? I mean, do we literally dismiss? A lot of people don't know that,
Roland. This is what I was talking about, about messaging. See, for instance. No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no. We talked about it a lot. I've had people. No, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait.
I've had people literally come in our chat
and on social media,
oh, that don't count.
And I'm like...
Don't everybody care about HBCUs?
Not everybody cares about HBCUs
and the academic...
Wait, wait, wait. Hold up, hold up.
Hold up, let's stop.
Not everybody care about HBCUs.
Is that not black?
That's like saying wheelchair.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That ain't no debate.
No, there ain't no debate.
80% of the folks who attend HBCUs are black.
And when you talk HBCUs,
you're not talking just the impact of the school.
You are literally talking about the black community that is around those HBCUs.
So the businesses, the restaurants, the convenience stores, we can go on and on and on.
So the impact of money going into those schools has a direct impact on black people in those communities.
Are we saying that's not relevant?
It is relevant.
It is relevant.
A lot of people, first of all, HBCUs got $5.8 billion in 2021.
Okay?
That's a record amount of funding that they have ever gotten in one year.
That came from the Biden-Harris administration.
A lot of people, even though we talk about it here, Roland,
I talk to a lot of people on my platforms and things like this.
I have people contact me on YouTube, et cetera.
A lot of people don't know that.
This is what I'm saying about messaging.
With the Democratic Party, they have a real problem
with really explaining what happened and how it helps you. What
this policy is and how it helps
you. Well, here's the deal, Michael.
But literally, I have
spent time walking through policy
and you still have folk go,
that don't count. That don't count.
That don't count. And so at some point,
I mean, I literally had
somebody tell me,
guy hit me up, Larry, he said, this was a trip, I mean, I literally had somebody tell me, guy hit me up, Larry, he said,
this was a trip,
he said,
name
one thing the Democratic Party
has done in the last 15 years
that's directly helped black people.
And I said to him,
that the Affordable Care Act
caused a dramatic
decrease in the number of black people who
recover by health care he said by three million hold up he said that wasn't for us
I was like no no no no no no no no hold on Larry I literally went, hold up.
Are you telling me, are you telling me black people who now have access to health care,
these like, well, the co-pays are this, they are high.
I'm like, bro.
So at some point, at some point, some people are so illogical.
Right. That nothing will satisfy them.
Again, the responses
that I get from some folks, Larry,
I'm like, what
in the hell are you talking about? Larry, go ahead.
Listen,
Roland, there are a couple things to peel back here.
You're right. Look,
before you said the Affordable Care Act, that's the first thing I thought
about. Certainly, we know that disproportionately,
the higher percentage of Black folks are uninsured. So essentially, we talk about
Black Lives Matter. The Affordable Care Act is essentially the core of Black Lives Matter. It's
saved, and it's saving Black lives. Folks who would not have access to health care could deal
with preventative care. The other thing I want to talk about is in terms of messaging yeah the democratic party
roland's talked about that i've talked about it other uh panels talked about it in terms of
consistent messaging i made that point earlier but listen let's be careful in terms of information
and disinformation we're in an age of disinformation and a lot of folks are coming across
information on facebook instagram etc where wherever they go, and they're being more exposed to disinformation.
You get the truth and information on this platform with Rosen Martin.
But there's a lot of disinformation out there.
The last thing I want to add about the issue about HBCUs, my colleague mentioned, and certainly I'm a proud HBCU alum, but I also want to add that HBCUs are institutions
within the Black community. The first HBCU was founded in 1837, Cheyenne University. And let's
be clear, they are institutions like the Black church. That's why Dr. King, Thurgood Marshall,
I can go on and on in terms of all the prominent HBCU alum, but Roland made an important point.
UNCF has a study that looked at the economic impact that HBCUs not only had on if they're are important in the black community, like the black church
and various other, like, you know,
D9 sororities and fraternity, et cetera.
Those are all core aspects of who we are
collectively as a people.
So I just thought that was important.
And then what you also get,
then you also get the stuck-on stupid people
who love to just throw things out.
Like, for instance, some idiot named Mikey B goes,
this is the boule crowd, y'all.
Michael, you remember the boule?
No.
Larry, you remember the boule?
No, I'm not wrong.
Cleo, you remember the boule?
I'll have to preface that with hell no.
Okay, so I am.
So, dumbass Mikey B, how is this the boule crowd?
I mean, again,
what we have to understand
is, what we have to
understand is, and this is
critically important,
there are people,
there are people
in our community
who deliberately,
who are deliberately
spreading misinformation, disinformation.
There are people, there are people in our community
who you can't satisfy anything.
They make up stuff.
They, they'll say, oh, nothing is ever done.
And then, this is the new line.
But what specifically have they done for black people?
And I've actually walked people through,
like, I can't even explain the sheer nonsense
of the fools who still run around
hollering about an anti-Asian hate bill.
I mean, I get them too.
I see you educating them on social media about that.
Bruh, I'm talking about, like, they literally, they literally are walking around going, but they got a hate crime bill.
No, they didn't.
Okay, so let me address that quickly, Roland.
No, no, no.
Number one.
No, we don't need to address it.
I've already addressed it.
It's a lie.
Right.
So I don't need to read it.
I understand that.
No, no, I'm not going to rehash the bullshit.
They got an Asian hate crime bill.
It's a lie.
They didn't.
But what I'm saying is there are people, there are people who are, who deliberately, who are deliberately spreading misinformation.
And there's no amount, there's no amount of logic you could apply.
So sometimes we just got to go ahead and say there's some folk who look like us who just stuck on stupid.
I block a lot of those people who are stuck on stupid. I just
block them because I don't have time to argue with them.
But what a lot of those people don't
talk about is the Emmett Till
anti-lynching bill. And this is
the first anti-lynching bill
in 122 years.
You know what they're going to say?
That got no teeth.
That means nothing.
I mean, again, even when something gets passed, it gets dismissed.
And so, I mean, I follow a number of different things, and I'm like, so that's not, that's not, that's not. So you finally reach a point where you say, okay, what exactly then do you actually want?
And 99.9% of the time, they cannot tell you other than reparations.
But then they say, I ain't going to vote, but I want reparations,
without realizing that the very people you vote for, that's who actually going to vote on it.
See, it's a circle of stupidity.
They keep going round and round in a circle
and they can't tell you
how to get what it is that they say
that they want, okay? So, the
Emmett Till anti-lynching bill, alright,
has more teeth than the
COVID-19 Hate Crimes
Act, and the COVID-19
Hate Crimes Act only
related to, number one, COVID-19
related hate crimes.
It was only one year. Like, hear me right now.
Some guy didn't judge it. You're lying, Roland,
and the Emmett Till bill hasn't been
passed because Ms. Bryant is still
walking around.
See, some people,
see, not only have they passed it,
it literally got passed.
See, you don't read.
See, Google is free, fool.
It ain't that free.
It ain't that free.
Y'all going to have to stop calling black folks names
and calling people names, man.
Cleo, if some folks are dumb, they dumb.
If some white folks are dumb, they dumb. Cleo, Cleo, if some folks are dumb, they dumb. If some white folks are dumb, they dumb.
Cleo, Cleo, the man literally said the Emmett Till hate election bill didn't get passed.
It got passed and signed.
Now, damn, what do we call that?
He may confuse that with the George Floyd.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That ain't what he said.
So, all right, Cleo.
Now, Cleo, please explain to me if somebody says the Emmett Till bill did not get passed
because Carolyn Bryant is still walking around.
All right, what do I call that?
Okay, let me interpret that, if I may.
First of all, that person is wrong if they think the Emmett Till policy is irrelevant.
But they're blinded legitimately.
Cleo, that ain't what he said.
He said, no, no, no, Cleo.
He said, Roland, you're lying.
The Till bill did not get passed.
Okay.
Well, no, I heard you say that.
I heard you say it.
And he's wrong about that.
However, he's
let me finish now. You've got to let me finish this now.
This is deconstructing trauma
laced interpretation of the world
through deep cynicism that's justified
by personal immediate experience.
For example, not everybody
is in college. Not everybody
cares about college. Now, I'm not one
of these people. I'm just translating here, speaking another language. Not everybody cares about college. Now, I'm not one of these people. I'm just
translating here, speaking another language. Not everybody looks at the academy, which is
predominantly white, even at HBCUs in terms of the curriculum, as a sanctuary for Black power
and transformation. So they don't look at supporting HBCUs as a great thing. Now, I'm not
saying that's how I feel. I'm saying I understand what they're saying. They're mad about Carolyn who set up Emmett Till for murder still being free. And they're too
reactionary. But to that horrible situation, to think through a logical lens. And what I said
many times, and I'll say it again, that some black people, and I've actually worked with some of
these black people, need to see in no uncertain terms the blatant ways in which something that's being done is going to help
Black people in particular.
When you mention the Affordable Care Act, yes, logically, that was helpful to Black
people, but it was not—let me finish, because this is going to provoke you because of your
logical thinking.
It was not called, as it came out of Obama's camp, the Black Affordable Care Act.
We want to see—
Who's calling the goddamn Affordable Care Act?
We want to see things that are blatantly—in this racist, anti-Black society, we want to see things
that are clearly and blatantly, without question, the affirming of Black people.
Like what? No, no, no. Like what? No, no, no.
Like what?
No, no.
Like what?
Well, for example, when Barack Obama was president of the United States, he only on forced occasions
talked in very focused ways in terms of black struggle.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's a speech.
I want to know what specific—
I'm talking about the fact that— No, no, no, no. No, no, no. That's a speech. I want to know what specific. No, no, no, no, no.
I want to know what specific policy you want to be framed as explicitly black. Name it.
Well, I think the Emmett Till policy is explicitly black. But they said it didn't pass. And then the
critics also say it was irrelevant.
They also said it was late, had no teeth.
Right, because, look, we cannot keep beating these people up
for being traumatized and upset about what they are going through.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, no, no.
No, Cleo, Cleo, Cleo.
You mentioned Emmett Till.
That's ought to have been passed.
Name me something that you want that's explicitly black to get passed.
Well, you know one thing that's explicitly black that folks want passed is reparations.
Okay, but how you going to get reparations if you don't have the elected officials
to get it done?
Well, name
an elected official
who's talking about reparations
and getting it done.
There are literally 217, hold up,
it's a perfect example.
There are 217
co-sponsors of HR40.
The same folk who yelled, they say, no, HR 40 is trash.
It's a joke.
It ain't good enough.
217.
Somebody.
But the same people, the same people say that's a joke.
It's not good enough.
It's not real.
So here's my question. If you can't even get H.R. 40, how you think you going to get reparations?
And here's the other deal, Cleo.
If you pull polling data of African-Americans, reparations is not in the top three or top five.
And that's because of cynicism.
No, no, hold on, hold on.
There's a lot of black people who don't believe it's real,
it's not ever going to happen.
No, no, no, but here, no, no, no, but hold on,
but answer my question.
If you got the folk who even yell that,
oh my goodness, HR 40 is a joke.
Well, then tell me then,
how you think you're going to get something else?
If you're moving in stages,
I've heard Conor Washington Jackson Lee,
the late Congressman John Conor say,
you need to have a study first.
You got a commission that's in California, all right?
Now, here's the deal.
The commission in California can make recommendations.
That don't mean the California
Assembly is going to pass it.
But I'm still asking you
the basic question. You got
a lot of folk who
believe reparations who think
H.R. 40 is trash. Oh, that's a waste of time.
So, okay, if
you can't even get that, what makes you actually
think you're going to get something larger? Do you not move in steps? Rolling your voting formula
and position is true. It's completely true. Most of the logical steps that have been described by
all the panelists are true. It's true that the Affordable
Care Act was beneficial to Black people and, in theory, and in fact, could have an impact on the
reduction of diabetes among Black people. I understand that, and I know that formula is
important. I believe that Black people should vote in blocks and become a clear power, both male and
female, because we've had a lot of focus on women voting,
but men can vote too.
And voting is extremely important,
particularly as a political strategy
for the collective of black people.
I get it. I do it.
So if we're logical, aren't the other folks illogical?
Not necessarily.
Okay, what are they then?
They have a trauma-induced cynical perspective that they believe that it's all for naught
because it's been for naught from their perspective, particularly if they've been violated,
if they experienced post-mutality, if they experienced racism, if they're miserable in this society,
if they feel like they're an underclass and irrelevant and that there's a larger system that teaches them that they're miserable in this society, if they feel like they're an underclass and irrelevant, and that
there's a larger system that teaches them
that they're irrelevant, they're too cynical
to be logical.
Well, guess what?
We can't re-traumatize them
through name-calling.
Well, guess what?
Okay?
The cynical, traumatized
people are going to be sitting on the sideline getting nothing
while the right wing is getting what they're getting.
And that's fine.
But I can guarantee you this here.
I can guarantee you this in my logical, sensible self.
And that is this.
If you sit your ass at home and not vote
All you doing is making sure that those who do get what they want
And if you and if you decide to sit at home and check out of a process Well, guess what shut the hell up if you it's just like if I let me try to put as basic as possible
If me Cleo Larry and Michael are in the car,
and I'm running out of gas, and we got to fill up,
and if Cleo chip in some money, and Larry chip in some money,
and Michael don't chip in no money,
I don't want to hear shit about where we going.
Because all you doing is riding for free.
No, no, no, no.
I got to go to a break.
I got to get this waiting.
It's a whole bunch of people who are riding for free
but want to tell you how to drive your car.
Want to tell you where to go.
And I'm telling you right now, if you are choosing to sit on the sideline and not be engaged in this
with all your trauma, all your cynicism, all your anger and everything, all you're going to be is a
cynical, angry, upset, traumatized person who's doing nothing about
their very situation. And thank God we've had a history of black people, the same black people
who were traumatized, same black people who were cynical, the same black people who were angry,
who same people who also understood. Nope, nope, nope, they ain't true, Cleo.
Rowan, have you ever met a brilliant human being who went on every night to a domestic violence situation?
Yes.
And you met them, and you knew they were really smart,
you knew they were really talented.
Yes.
But they still went home to abuse every night?
And you know what they also did?
They left.
Well, some of them did. Hold up, hold up. No, no. I got it in my
family.
And the reality is this
here. And the reality is this here.
The reality is, for the folk
who stay in abusive
relationships, then what's
going to end up happening is
either the lights which is going to go
off, or it's going to end in happening is either the lights which is going to go off or it's going to
end in tragedy. And what my
job is, what my job
is to help them
lead that traumatic situation.
What I'm not going to do
is sit here, entertain
foolishness
and entertain all the rest of this sort of stuff.
And that's what I'm going to do.
And so... If you're not going to make them leave by calling them stupid.
They're not going to leave that domestic violence situation.
Actually, actually, actually,
as somebody who's been in those conversations,
sometimes you have to go ahead and go there
because every other piece of logic,
they weren't complying with.
And using your example,
you're talking to somebody
who's had those conversations with family
members. So yes, I have.
And I've had to get through to them
as anyone. No, no, Cleo.
No, no, no, no, Cleo.
You know, Cleo, you asked
me, you asked me specifically
about domestic violence. And I've
had to go there with some family
members because I tried logic.
I tried to be nice. I tried to be nice.
I tried to be cordial and understanding.
And finally, I had to go there and get wrong with it to get their damn attention.
So, yes, I've been there.
I've got to go to a break.
I've got to go to a break.
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Hi, this is Cheryl Lee Ralph, and you are watching Roland Martin, unfiltered.
I mean, could it be any other way?
Really, it's Roland Martin. I'm out. Thank you. All right, folks.
October is Dyslexia Awareness Month. It is a learning disability characterized by difficulties with accurate and or affluent word recognition, poor spelling, and decoding abilities.
Joining us right now is
someone who works in this area, Clarice Jackson. She is the president and CEO of Voice Advocacy
Center, a decoding dyslexia organization out of Omaha, Nebraska. So, all right, glad to have you
here, Clarice. And so, it's interesting when we talk about this. I mean, I know people who are high-functioning people who have dyslexia.
And have we gotten to the point in the society where people now understand it a lot better than we have in the past?
And are we seeing our education institutions accommodate folks with dyslexia?
I would say that we have definitely come further than we've ever been.
However, it's not enough.
And more specifically, when it comes to black and brown children and families,
access and services and even the recognition of dyslexia as a learning disability for African-American and Brown
families is still somewhat taboo. So how is someone, I mean, how are folks being tested?
I mean, so how do you arrive at the point where you know someone actually has it? And is it by
a certain age? We'll be checking, you know, checking you know at three four five six when they're 10
well you know dyslexia actually can be detected in the brain as as early as as as
six months old if you do brain imaging actually um a professor out of the university of nebraska
at lincoln dr mof, he has actually done some studies
and some research on concussions with football players.
And while doing that, he took a look at the brain
of children and babies who could have the genetic marker
of dyslexia and found it within that imaging.
So if you get real in depth with it,
you can actually see it in brain imaging. But if you get real in-depth with it, you can actually see it
in brain imaging. But as far as the normal traditional way, you can screen children for
dyslexia age five and up. Gotcha. Okay. All right then. And so
if you had to say a percentage of school system to actually do that, what would it be?
Well, I'll give decoding dyslexia, which I'm the founder and president of the chapter in Nebraska.
It's a national grassroots organization ignited by parents who were really, really frustrated with the lack of access, resources, and teaching of structured
literacy in our school systems. And although dyslexia has been around for decades, the school
system up until 2018 in Nebraska had one dyslexia legislation law there. And so that is kind of how
I got involved in this because my daughter struggled from pre-K to fourth grade
and couldn't read simple two- and three-letter words.
And when I went to the school system, they just said, well, you know, she just learns differently.
She's slower.
She's not putting forth enough effort.
And I'm like, we've been doing this for five years now, and there's nothing cognitively wrong with her.
And you guys, for whatever reason just cannot
teach her to read. I don't understand why. The problem was they never addressed or acknowledged
dyslexia and so we had to look outside the traditional public school setting and that's
when I found out what the real reason was and when we got her the right method she went from a non-
reader to a third grade reader in one year. So it makes a significant difference in the access and
the services that we give our youth and our children. And they're being denied that to this
day. Questions from our panel. I'll start with you, Larry. Yeah. So, you know, as a college professor,
I have a lot of students who have dyslexia and various other reading challenges. I know of a
colleague, Dr. Sean Robinson, who was at the lab in Wisconsin, that focuses a lot on Black and brown communities, particularly dispelling these myths.
And how much, what do you think that that difference makes, right, when they see
your daughter or someone else who's, you know, a similar lived experience? What difference do
you think that makes when you have those conversations with other parents, when they
see someone that looks like them in terms of having a conversation when it comes to Cicely
or various other reading difficulties?
Oh, representation is huge and imagery is huge. And one of the things that dyslexia as a movement,
as a grassroots movement did during the George Floyd tragedy, we really were very thoughtful,
specifically decoding dyslexia, about
what does our imagery look like? Are we unconsciously putting forth imagery that
makes dyslexia look like it's a white literacy issue, when in fact it is not? It crosses all
racial boundaries. I actually know Dr. Sean Robinson. Him and I are great friends. He's
Dr. Dyslexia Dude. And I agree wholeheartedly with his findings and his
acknowledgement of the pain that he suffered by being denied access to appropriate literacy
instruction until he got to high school. It's detrimental. It does. Good to meet you, sister.
Good to meet you.
I want to reiterate what you just said about the importance of representation and imagery because I know that it can be very
transformative for someone to see somebody like themselves.
And what I've learned in working with black people with dyslexia is they're surprise how many famous and brilliant people who are well
known are dyslexic. And they were made to think because no one understood what was going on,
that they were dumb, that they were defective, that they were stupid. But when they saw somebody
who looked like them, Whoopi Goldberg and others, who were on the stage and who were doing well,
it brightened up their lives and gave them a lot more motivation about the possibilities.
So I just want to congratulate you on your program because I know that it's extremely
important and you're right, a lot of people in some of our communities still have no idea
what dyslexia really is and ironically a lot of people who are dyslexic also have to be
brilliant when it comes to the creative process and the intellectual process once they get
the right guidance to discover themselves. Absolutely. And I also think that, you know,
a lot of the issue is that there's a lot of myths out there about dyslexia. And so for a lot of
people, even admitting that it was really, really an issue was hard for most people. I think we've done quite
well in abolishing those myths so that people understand that it doesn't have anything to do
with intellect, but how the brain processes language. And we have many, many talented people
who have dyslexia who've gone on to do exceptional things like the people you mentioned. Octavia
Spencer also has dyslexia and has acknowledged it.
It's a host of people who do. And I think by bringing forth examples such as celebrities who have come forward and shared their journey with dyslexia, and even Stephen A. Smith,
he shared in his book about his struggles with reading. And he said, I couldn't even remember
a lot of people's names today, but I remember the teacher. I remember the kids that were in the classroom the day
that I was asked to read out loud and was embarrassed. So it has a huge impact on people
and it is life-changing. It's a generational curse if it's not broken. And it goes back, if we're going to be honest, to the anti-literacy laws.
It's just changed form.
Now it's within our school system, which then pushes our young people, predominantly black males, into the prison pipeline through the detention center and then also into prison.
And so we have 85% of all inmates
who are functioning illiterate
and 40% of them we can say with assurity have dyslexia.
There's a high number of people
who are involved in sex work
who are also dealing with dyslexia.
Yes, they are, they are.
I'm sorry. Go ahead, I are. They are. I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
I couldn't hear you.
I'm sorry.
I was going to mention that you mentioned prison and there's people in communities who
have dyslexia who haven't got proper guidance or learn how to decode what they have and
so they can feel normal who have gotten involved in what they feel are jobs that don't require
an intellect.
Absolutely. Such a an intellect. Absolutely.
Such a sex work.
Yes.
And it's amazing that people have not gotten the support they need and they think something's
wrong with them and they just need proper guidance and instruction.
They do.
And they need more people such as yourself, such as Roland Barton.
I'm grateful for this conversation, but we need more of us to get behind
this cause because the National Assessment of Educational Progress just came out with their
scores at the beginning of this week about the nation's, it's the nation's report card.
And when we talk about literacy and reading over the last 30 years, and we know COVID had a role
to play and people are embellishing COVID as the reason why scores are the way they are because we went through this whole pandemic,
when in reality, it has been this bad for 30 years is in Nebraska, the fourth grade reading scores in 2019 were only 12 percent of eighth graders who were proficient meeting basic standards in reading.
And that is just not common to Nebraska. This is the statistic nationwide. It's an epidemic and it needs to be addressed. And there are, there's an alarm that
needs to be sounded because if our children are not literate, it intersects with health. It
intersects with teen pregnancy. It intersects with crime. It intersects with dropout rates.
What is our generation and the generations next to them and behind them, what is that going to look like? We're talking about politics and the state of the nation.
We have to have a literate nation in order to have a competent nation.
And that means we have to start voicing and demanding that our school systems,
especially those that don't agree with choice,
that they either put up or shut down.
All right.
Larry?
Sorry, I went on my tangent,
but I had to do it.
Let's see.
Michael and Larry, who hasn't asked a question yet?
I haven't asked.
Michael, go ahead.
Sister Clarice, thanks for coming on
and sharing this valuable information.
I forgot.
Cleo asked five questions, so I lost track of who asked the questions.
So, you know.
It's all right.
Dyslexia affects voting, too, Roland.
Yeah, right.
Yes, it does, Roland.
It does.
Yes, it does, Roland.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I get that.
And there's still all sorts of dumb people who don't have dyslexia who don't know how to read.
It ain't got nothing to do with dyslexia.
They're just dumb.
Right.
Okay.
Let me ask my question right quick, Cleo, then you and Roland can go back and forth.
Okay.
Sister Louise, have the researchers been able to detect what causes dyslexia? And if not, have they been able to make any advances
towards finding out what causes dyslexia? Are there any maybe genetic traits that make someone
more disposed to dyslexia? Tell us about the research in the past few years.
Well, the research in the past few years, we know that it runs in families. Is there a genetic marker
specifically that says, okay, because of this in the family bloodline, this causes dyslexia?
We don't have that kind of information. But what we do know is that there is appropriate
remediation methods to address dyslexia. And that even though it's a lifelong issue, it can be overcome and that most
people, when they are receiving the right services, lead very productive, successful lives.
That we do know. Okay. All right. Thank you. Then there are characteristics of dyslexia that people
have that you can detect if your child has these characteristics, that they have three or
more of them, such as slow, choppy, and accurate reading, letter reversals beyond first grade,
homonyms and synonyms, confusion, trouble with directions. When you see those type of characteristics, those are indicators that that child probably needs to be screened for dyslexia.
And the earlier we catch it, the better.
Right.
All right, then.
How can folks get information on your organization?
Voice Advocacy Center, which is located in Omaha, Nebraska,
and I am very proud to say that our center was the first dyslexia screening and tutoring center in Omaha, Nebraska. And I'm very proud to say that our center
was the first dyslexia screening and tutoring center
in the entire state.
Now, there are a few more now, but we led the way.
And then I'm also the president and founder
of Decoding Dyslexia in Nebraska.
And we are now branching out nationwide.
We're doing a lot of remote tutoring and screening
in California and several other states.
And so
watch out for Voice Advocacy Center at Clarice Jackson because I'm not going anywhere. And
last but not least, I wrote the proclamation for the NAACP to acknowledge dyslexia, to legislate
and raise awareness for it in every state that has an NAACP. And that happened in 2014. So
we're going to keep on moving. All right. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Be well. All right. Thank you.
All right, folks. Got to go to this quick break. We come back.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, her husband is in the hospital being attacked, viciously attacked in their home by a right wing extremist.
And of course, you know, Fox News, they're already blaming Joe Biden.
Yeah, really.
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Paul Pelosi, the 82-year-old husband of a speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi,
is recovering from a skull fracture.
He's had surgery and other injuries after a man broke into their San Francisco home,
attacked him with a hammer, tried to tie him up and said he was waiting for Nancy Pelosi to get home. The alarm went off
and cops were dispatched to the home. Here is San Francisco Police Chief Bill Scott.
The suspect has been identified as 42-year-old David DePappe.
Mr. Pelosi and Mr. DePappe were transported to a local hospital
for treatment. This is an active investigation currently being led by the San Francisco Police
Department Special Investigations Division. We are working closely with our partners from the FBI,
the U.S. Attorney's Office, the U.S. Capitol Police,
and our district attorney here in San Francisco County, D.A. Brooke Jenkins, and her team.
The motive for this attack is still being determined.
Mr. DePepe will be booked at the San Francisco County Jail on the following charges,
attempted homicide, assault with a deadly weapon, elder abuse, burglary, and several other additional
felonies.
This individual is a right-wing extremist, anti-Semitic as well.
And it's been interesting just watching the reaction of various Republicans.
Here is this woman, Kennedy, on Fox News.
You know how quick they are to jump on it.
She's actually blaming Joe
Biden for this attack. Watch. OK, watch this. This is reflective of political violence that's
happening in the country or whether it's reflective of serious mental health issues in the country and
violence in general across the country or some combination of both? Kennedy? I think you hit on
it and I think it is a combination of both because I think where we're at, you know, the president
promised to bring down the tenor of political discourse in this country. That hasn't happened.
People are more divided. There are people who see words as violence and there are people who it's
very easy for them to cross the line and commit acts of violence like this because they are moved by their politics.
When you combine that kind of rage, that sort of systemic cultural rage that we have right now that hasn't calmed down with untreated mental illness, that's when you have things like this happen.
And for anyone, whether it's a Supreme Court justice, the Speaker of the House, or anyone, this is reflective of political.
Okay. So a right-wing extremist who's anti-Semitic
who believes in conspiracy theories is Joe Biden's fault. No, where we come from,
we call it a Fox News viewer. And a Donald Trump supporter. That's what we call that.
Now, the thing that trips me out, y'all, again,
when you look at how sick and demented these people are,
again, this is what took place today. And when you look at how these people respond,
there was an event today where Glenn Youngkin,
the governor of Virginia, he actually made a comment.
And he didn't say, let's have thoughts and prayers for this.
He literally joked about it and said, well, you know,
let's send Nancy Pelosi back to San Francisco to be with her husband.
Yep, yep. That's literally what he said. Then you've got Ronna McDaniel, the head of the GOP,
making her. Matter of fact, here is the Glenn Youngkin comment right here.
And the voters are getting ready to stand up again and said we have had enough, enough of Abigail Spanberger, enough of Joe Biden.
And listen, I want to stop for a minute.
And listen, Speaker Pelosi's husband had a break in last night in their house and he was assaulted.
There's no room for violence anywhere.
But we're going to send her back to be with him in California.
That's what we're going to go do.
That's what we're going to go do.
Wow. And the boat Wow that that's that's how they actually think the thing here
The thing here Larry that I said that I'm still laughing about I
Love how these Fox News people
Somehow are totally
divorced from reality
of the role that they play
every single night
stirring up
right-wing extremists,
driving lies,
driving total BS,
and then go,
that wasn't us.
We didn't do nothing.
So, Roland, we're going to keep seeing this.
And also, let's go back for a little bit to the United States' history.
We have a long history of political violence.
Go back to Abraham Lincoln, 1865.
We can talk about the assassination of
Mega Evers and Dr. King
in the 1960s. We can even talk about
Ronald Reagan's attempt at assassination in the 1980s.
So we have a long history of political murders and assassinations and attempts to hurt political
leaders or those or family members, et cetera. So that's consistently happened throughout our
history. But you're right, Roland, these folks, they've been breeding these individuals. We
talked about disinformation earlier. They keep talking about, you know, Joe Biden being some kind of evil person and some of the other Democrats, and they amplify this on
social media, Facebook, Instagram, et cetera, these exaggerated pictures, et cetera. And so
that feeds this frenzy. So these individuals, and many of them are just, you know, average
everyday people you work with, not necessarily these, all these people don't have mental
illness. Some of them are just racist and they are purposely going out looking to harm
people. The last point I want to make, Roland, I want to make sure it's clear if people are
watching it on this platform, it is 2022. This will get worse between now and 2024.
If you do not put some of these people, stop some of these folks in the next couple of days. It will get worse. And then this kind of violence, political and also racial violence will continue.
And that is the reality, Michael. I mean, these these folks are emboldened.
You see these extremists with their guns and their Kevlar and and their proclamations that we're going to have this war,
that is absolutely the right wing, completely.
Absolutely. It's absolutely right wing, and this is continued.
Some people are going to end up getting killed.
This is what's going to happen.
And there's a deep history, as Larry said, Dr. Larry said,
there's a deep history of political violence in this country,
but there's a deep history of political violence in this country, but there's
a deep history of political violence directly directed towards African Americans. We're coming
up on the 102nd commemoration of the Akwae Massacre of November 2nd, 1920, which happened
on election day. And you had about 50 African Americans who ended up being killed by white
supremacists for trying to
vote.
You have the Opelousa massacre of 1868.
You have the Clinton-Mississippi riot of 1875.
You have these massacres that took place during Reconstruction and after Reconstruction targeting
African Americans who were trying to vote, to suppress our vote, to keep us away from
the voter polls, things like this, like the white supremacists are doing right now in Arizona. And they're sitting out with their
sitting out in their arms and they're photographing people who are voting,
OK, because they have a right to vote, things like this. So this is why all of these Republicans have to be defeated, because they're playing with fire.
And this could really explode into something very—it can explode into another civil war very quickly.
OK?
You do not want these white supremacist coup plotters to be back in power.
You do not understand what can actually happen.
OK? power. You do not understand what can actually happen. Okay? So this is why this midterm
election is probably the most significant midterm election since 1876. And that's the
year after the Civil War ended. This is the first midterm election after an insurrection
since the 1876 midterm election. So black votes matter. And we have to understand.
Lastly, I know people mean well when they say exercise your right to vote. You don't vote for
exercise. You don't exercise to go to the gym. You vote for power. This is about power and
understanding how policies directly impact us. And also you vote to stop people who are trying
to do you harm as well. So this is crucial.
Bottom line here, Cleo, these people, they're not tamping this thing down. It is going to
get even more violent. And if their people win on November 8th, oh, they're going to
see that as validation.
Dr. Larry said something, if I'm not about mistaken earlier. He said that
some of these people are not mentally ill. The races.
I got news for you brother racism is a psychopathology it
is mental illness.
However, it's often not recognized as such because it's
a normal part of the United States of America.
You may remember manifestifest Destiny, which allegedly was
the call from God to take over this country while murdering, raping, killing, slicing, maiming babies,
women, and children. And under the Manifest Destiny rubric, they felt like this was all right to do.
These people are serious. And as Michael mentioned earlier about voting, if you're going to vote for
anything, you look at the fact that voting is involved in us gaining power. We need to be voting for power.
And I really resonated with his final comments around power and voting. But as I mentioned,
in underscore, people say it's going to get dangerous. What happened to Pelosi's husband
is horrible. And it shows just how crazy and serious these people are.
But it's going to get worse.
So black people need to learn how to defend ourselves.
We need to talk to our children about their self-concepts so they can have enough self-esteem and enough value in themselves to go vote and look at it as a weapon against their oppression because it is going to get worse.
Again, this society was built on this.
We've already had the panelists break down historical events
and we're in the midst of an historical event
that's also dangerous,
that's also gonna lead to more blood
and police brutality is a blatant example
of manifest destiny and its lethal consequences.
But there's more to come and we need to get ready
and we need to talk black people into loving themselves
and baging themselves
along with getting them to value the vote.
Alright then, folks. Time
for our In Memoriam. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 So they were more than the loss of legendary community leader
and pastor, Reverend Calvin Butts III.
He was 73 years old, a longtime pastor of Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem.
He led that church to new heights.
Of course, the senior pastor there,
also the former president of the State University of New York
College at Old Westbury and religious community leader.
He recently celebrated 50 years with Abyssinian Baptist Church
where he founded the Abyssinian Development Corporation to
rebuild the community of Harlem.
He famously campaigned against the misogyny of rap music along
with C.D. CD lawyers Tucker. He gained
national attention for using a
steamroller to crush hundreds of rap CDs
outside his church and debating
rappers Luke and Ice-T about his
concerns with rap music.
Reverend Calvin Bust III
worked tirelessly with political leaders across
the ideological spectrum to create a
better world for African Americans. He leaves
behind his wife, Patricia, three children and six grandchildren.
And he he apparently had had passed away of cancer.
Absolutely a towering, towering religious figure.
Michael. Yes, he was.
Yeah, I remember Dr. Calvin Butts. I remember when he and C. Delores Tucker
in the 1990s were going after gangster rappers, things like this, the 2 Live Crew, et cetera,
et cetera. So they were pioneers. And what's interesting is we're still having some of these discussions dealing with
misogynistic lyrics and things like this. I find it very interesting that a lot of these
African-American entertainers that put out misogynistic lyrics are financed by Europeans.
That's another conversation, but I just find that very interesting. But yeah, he was a pioneer,
and I think he's somebody that people need to do more research on.
I think he's kind of an unsung hero in the past maybe few years, past decades, things like this.
I just hadn't heard a lot about him, but I definitely remember those news articles, those videos, those interviews from the 90s dealing with gangster rap.
Reverend Mr. Jackson Sr. said this on Twitter.
I send my condolences and fervent prayers to the family of Reverend Dr. Calvin O. Butts,
my brother beloved, a biblical scholar, education advocate, and leader, liberator, and faithful servant.
May he rest in heavenly peace. Larry.
Reverend Dr. Butts is an icon, not only in Harlem
and New York City, but nationally. And I agree with my colleague, he's probably someone that
really people haven't appreciated all the work he's done in terms of supporting the Black community.
Obviously, you talked about his work in Harlem. I also know many people who've attended his church
who lived in New York City, particularly Harlem. So I send my condolences to his family. It's a loss, like I said, not only for New York City
or New York State, but it's a loss for the Black community. Once again, we've lost one of our icons.
Dr. Cornel West tweeted this. I am deeply saddened by the loss of my very dear brother,
the great Reverend Dr. Kevin Obus III, my deep friend of over 40 years, my love and respect for
him or forever. God bless his precious wife, Patricia,
and his family. Cleo. I'm struck by how young he died. 73. Yeah, that's pretty young. I had the opportunity to be greeted by him. Pardon me, my lights just went out. I don't know what
happened. Can't fix it. But anyway, I spoke at the National Action Network as a keynote speaker in the early 2000s.
And after I spoke, he came up to me and embraced me and told me he was very moved by my words.
That was the first time I met him, and that was the last time that I engaged him.
I had been to his church, and my condolences to the family,
and I'm just reiterating that 73 is young,
a young man to pass away.
And again, he was quite the significant figure there,
doing lots for the Harlem community
when it came to development.
I got a chance to meet him on several occasions and was always blessed to do so.
And so we have lost a great one in Reverend Dr. Calvin Bust III,
the senior pastor of Abyssinian Baptist Church, dead at the age of 73.
All right, folks, that is it for us.
Cleo, Michael, and Larry, thanks for joining us on today's panel.
And, oh, tonight's the beginning of the World Series. Game one.
Y'all know, so this is my...
Let's go Phillies.
Huh?
Let's go Phillies.
Oh, y'all gonna get y'all ass whooped.
So Larry, let me remind you.
My Astros swept the Mariners and we swept the Yankees.
I know.
So I'll be happy to get that broom out for Philadelphia.
And so... Listen, I'm always... And this year, of course, this year's 2017 champions. and we swept the Yankees. I know. So I'll be happy to get that broom out for Philadelphia.
And so this year, of course, this is 2017 champions.
I fully expect to see my gear 2022 champions.
And so go ahead and accept second place right now.
Listen, we'll see.
Starting in two minutes.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Take that second place because, you know, dog on well,
y'all ain't beating us.
Y'all barely got into the playoffs. All right. That's it, y'all. Don't forget, y'all ain't beating us. Y'all barely got into the playoffs. Alright, that's
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Hey, folks, I'm going to be in Atlanta tomorrow night.
Do y'all have the graphic of the event?
It's the event for Liberia.
And so we're going to be there looking forward to that.
And so it's going to be taking place tomorrow night at the CNN Omni Center.
And so looking forward to that.
I'll post it on social media.
They had a good right there.
The 2022 Letty International Life Changers Awards in Liberia Bicentennial Celebration Gala.
And so, yeah, I will be there enjoying that.
Now, before I do that, I'm going to be here in D.C.
And I'll be inducted into the South International Journalist Hall of Fame.
They have what they call it, they call them
a Fellow of the Society.
I'll be doing that tomorrow morning.
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