#RolandMartinUnfiltered - LIVE from Ced's golf classic; 7.2 quake hits Haiti; The fall of Afghanistan; COVID infections spike
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The 8th Annual Synthi Entertainer Celebrity Golf Classic.
Folks, we will show you some of the great time we've had here.
Of course, we'll talk with Synthi Entertainer about this event, who it benefits.
Also on the show, of course, we've got to deal with some news, and that is Haiti.
More than 1,300 people died in a massive earthquake over the weekend.
We'll give you the latest details, plus drama in Afghanistan
as thousands descend on the airport in Kabul.
President Joe Biden speaks, says he made the right decision,
even though things have not gone well well trying to evacuate Americans from there.
Black farmers continue to have significant issues, significant issues when it comes to
getting their aid.
We'll talk that and more on Rolling Mark Unfiltered, broadcasting live.
It's time to bring the funk.
Let's go. We'll be right back. It's Uncle Roro, yo! Yeah, yeah! It's Rollin' Marten, yeah!
Yeah, yeah!
Rollin' with Rollin' now!
Yeah, yeah!
He's funky, he's fresh, he's real, the best, you know he's Rollin' Marten now!
Marten! Martin! It did not happen last year because of COVID. It was last year in 2019. But certainly glad to be back and to be here with the man himself,
Cynthia Tainer.
Sid, first of all, you got like all.
Swag.
Swag. You got the swag.
Swag.
You got all the colors.
He got all 31 basket robin.
You got everybody.
I'm feeling real sherbet today.
I was like, listen, I'm out here, popsicle clean.
So y'all know, I saw Sid last night.
I said, Sid, I got a little something special for you.
And so that camera right here, let's go.
So I went ahead and ordered these special foot joys here.
And I got the black and gold, my alpha colors.
And then I got R they black and gold my alpha colors and then
I got Roro on the side and so I debuted them we don't have that camera and if
ever we need uh that cameras not up so map but you know what I'm gonna be real
black we just gonna just take our shoe off you know you just do you you got
yeah you got the yeah you got a lot of technology. These are called the boa.
The boa, you unscrew.
And so as you see right here, so we got Roro right here, you know, being the alpha man.
You know, Santa Catman.
He could save you today.
What was you doing out there, bro?
Well, we shot 17 under.
When did that happen?
What do you mean when that happened?
That was not going on when I came up to y'all, man.
No, we parked that hole.
Okay.
All right.
That's golf, people.
But we was smoking.
That's golf.
Okay, you say it was on fire, man.
We was on fire.
Was it the shoes?
Oh, yeah, it was the shoes.
It got to be the shoes.
You ordered a special.
Yeah, I did.
All right, and they were fly.
First time I wore them.
All right, you killed it, though.
I had to go ahead.
You didn't put no corns on your feet. Took out what you were up right, you killed it, though. I had to go ahead. You didn't put no coins on your feet.
Took out what you were new, and they get up against you.
That left side.
You get up against it.
It's burning a little bit.
Right.
I didn't break them in yet.
It was one of you swung.
About a 14th hole, I was like.
Yeah, these cool, though.
It's slightly uncomfortable.
But for the first time.
That'd be the thickest sock.
Right, right.
There you go.
There you go.
That's all good, dog.
So, first of all, so Lex is a sponsor of the tournament,
Kyle's Family Foundation, and Boys and Girls Club benefits.
Yeah.
So I've been doing this for eight years.
We started, so Kyle's Family Foundation, my wife and I,
we've been raising money just doing a lot of, like,
Boys and Girls Club, Brotherhood Crusade,
a lot of, like, just programs to help the youth, man.
I grew up single-parent household, my mother.
And so, you know, all the male stuff came from a Boys and Girls Club, hanging out at
Matthews Dickey, learning to play baseball, all that kind of stuff, sports stuff.
So that's, you know, that's why I support, you know, Boys and Girls Club.
And it's amazing.
It's an amazing organization.
They just do great work.
And then we do the Rosetta Boyce-Kiles Women's Health Pavilion in St. Louis at St. Mary's Hospital.
I started it for my mother, who passed in 2016.
And so my sister and I, again, that's another thing we give back.
And a lot of women's health, you know, work that we do there, just supporting all those initiatives.
And, of course, scholarships.
I've been doing scholarships since 94 when I got my first money.
Right.
Rolling with that first son of mine.
I said, do what?
My mama taught me right.
Who need to go to college?
So you said you came back early.
Yeah, and I told them, kid, now mind alone.
If you don't graduate, I'm coming looking for you.
You got that right. I need to slide back. Oh, yes, yes. Oh, you know, I'm coming looking for you. You got that right.
I need to slide back.
I ain't just giving you this for college.
Do something. For you to finish.
All right, don't give mine back then.
You ain't do it? What you got?
I'll fill you on that one.
I'll fill you on that one.
Now you have, first of all, great
turnout.
Last night at the VIP party, we live streamed last night.
Yeah.
And you were on stage along with Eric Benet, Phillip Bailey, Valerie Bailey.
Who was the guy in Chicago?
Oh.
All right.
Name is Caden.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Everybody just kept saying the white guy on stage. That's what everybody kept saying
in the audience. They're like, the white guy on stage?
Who the white guy? He's with Chicago.
Sean or
Michael something. I don't know.
Bill Hammond, no. Bill, no.
Bill knows his name. Let's see.
It was Mike Phillips
on saxophone. It was crazy, Mike.
It was crazy.
It just kept getting higher and higher. Everybody took Phillips on saxophone. It was crazy, Mike. It was crazy. Yeah, it was, you know, and it just kept getting higher and higher.
Everybody took it to the stage.
Phillip Bailey up there killing it.
Started out, just started out on fire.
Absolutely.
Like, you know.
The band was killing it.
I mean, they were jamming hard.
The band was amazing.
I had folks text me saying, yo, man, that band is tight.
Yeah, give it up for Herman Jackson.
Yeah, they killed it right there.
You know Herman's an alpha.
You know what?
I saw the jacket he had on, and I said,
what's so wrong with that brother?
I said, I can't put my finger on it.
And now you did it right there.
Oh, that's what it was?
Right there.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I forgot.
Got it.
Okay, got it.
Got it.
No wonder.
Got it.
That's what it was.
Got it.
Uh-huh, see.
See, that's how Cap was on. That's how Cap was on. He had some of them make it out here. He's born from St. No wonder. Got it. That's what it was. Got it. Uh-huh. See? See how cap was off?
Cap was off.
He had some of them out here.
He's born from St. Louis.
Joe Torrey.
Joe Torrey, yeah.
Out here.
George Lopez, Anthony Anderson, Eric Dickerson, Marcus Allen.
Yeah, man.
Oh, my God.
Alex English.
Man.
Yeah.
Coach Woodson.
Coach by Dr. J.
Dr. J.
He was all lit.
Ozzie Smith was lit out here.
Eric Dickerson.
We was having a good time today man
it was fun and people had a blast
man it was great
it's been really great
last night with people coming in
people coming in town a lot of great people
showing up in support of this
we've just been growing each year
and it's fun
to have it back again
you know what I'm saying? Hopefully, you know,
everybody gonna be...
You know what I'm saying? Put that on it.
So just so y'all know, so, like,
we were live streaming last night, and so
when Ced walked out, Ced was like,
y'all got, like,
the whole set up.
You know? Oh, man.
You know, we...
We can't be regular. Let me tell y'all about
Roland Martin man
this is a serious situation
this hardwood floors under us right now
this man that came in
here
Roland Martin got a whole
full on set up man he ain't hung a light
it's a situation that people in the background
I can order stuff from somebody right now
it's that serious
it's serious.
I told Bill, I told Bill, we're going to do the show.
You don't mess around.
Normally we live 6 to 8 Eastern, which is 3 p.m. here.
So that would be.
We were still playing.
So I said, Bill, I said, only for said, I'm going to move the show.
We'll go live at 5.
I said, we'll have a great backdrop.
But let's just stop right there.
Who the boss, though?
Who the boss?
You know, for you, though, what I'm going to do is.
I didn't have to ask nobody.
You just decided.
That's what I'll do.
Right.
That's Roland Martin, man.
Right.
See, that's black ownership.
Black ownership.
That's for all the youth out there. I understand it. And my man do great journalism as well. Right. See, that's black ownership. That's for all the youth out there. Understand it.
My man can do great journalism
as well. Reporting.
You dig deep. You have
smart questions. I've been on your show.
I've been watching for years. You wild as...
Don't mind.
This is your show.
I didn't even do that to you,
brother. Come on, man.
The show called unfiltered.
Unfiltered.
They know you.
Wow, man.
This boy with them T-straps, sandals on.
And danced the night away.
You didn't dance last night.
No, we were working last night.
Oh, okay.
Because, man, would Roland get on that dance floor?
Oh, no.
Come on, now.
All right, now.
Because once here, see, what happened was one of my camera guys,
he didn't know that we were going to be mobile.
So during the middle of the concert, I'm with Anthony, Anthony directing.
And I said, what the hell happened to the shot?
He said, oh, his shoulder got tired.
Oh.
And I went, his shoulder got tired?
You turn and I turn.
So I walked over.
Come here.
Whose shoulder got tired? Then you turn and I turn. So I walked over. Come here. Whose shoulder got tired?
Right.
So what I did was.
Rolling Martin, unfiltered.
He like, the dark side.
He had the camera.
Come here.
On his right shoulder.
He was leaning.
And I walked over, tapped him on his left shoulder.
Yeah, hard.
Give me the camera.
And then did your own camera?
Oh, you didn't see me?
Remember last night? Doc. That was you didn't see me, remember, last night?
Doc.
That was you.
That was me.
You had your hat backwards.
No, no, no.
I had it.
Yeah, I understand.
I ain't got no sense.
But I tapped him, and somebody was like,
You took those, man.
I know you do it all.
He's like, you shoot?
I said, man, look.
I said, I was behind the camera before I was in front of the camera.
I said, oh.
I said, because when you own the company, sometimes you got to grab the camera.
And that's another lesson for the youth out there, all right?
Don't be above your pay grade.
Your pay grade is the whole thing through.
Don't ever think you're too big to do any one of the jobs along the way.
If you got the sweet.
It's yours, right?
It's yours, ain't it?
That's what you got to do. You got to let them know. You can do all the jobs. Well, y'all, the awards program, they got the suite. It's yours, right? It's yours, ain't it? That's what you got to do.
You got to let them know.
You can do all the jobs.
Well, y'all, the awards program, they got dinner going on right now.
They got the awards program.
And so I know I'm one close to the pin, so I'm going to walk away with something.
All right, that's nice.
So we're going to pop in there.
We're trying to get a camera.
So whenever it starts, we'll have a camera in there live.
And so we're going to come back with some other celebs here.
We said, man, it's always good to see you, my brother. We'll have a camera in there live. We're going to come back with some other celebs here. We said, man, it's always good
to see you, my brother. We appreciate
thanks for accommodating us, hooking us
up. We're going to definitely
have some more of the folks talking about the
golf tournament and have some good time here.
We'll see you in a bit.
Folks, got to go to break.
We come back. We're going to talk with the U.S. Ambassador
to the United States
about the situation there. More than 1 to talk with the U.S. ambassador, the Haitian ambassador to the United States about the situation there.
More than 1300 killed in an earthquake there.
We also talk about what's happening with Afghanistan.
We'll be joined by Malcolm Nance, national security expert, as well as Congresswoman Barbara Lee, the only member of Congress to vote against invading Afghanistan.
All of that, plus more from the safety entertainer, Celebrity Golf Classic here in Southern California.
We'll be back on Roller Martin Unfiltered in just a moment.
Black women have always been essential.
So now how are you going to pay us like that?
And it's not just the salary.
I mean, there are a whole number of issues
that have to support us as women.
Yeah.
But that's what we deserve.
We shouldn't have to beg anybody for that. I think that we are trying to do our best as a generation
to honor the fact that we didn't come here alone
and we didn't come here by accident.
I always say every generation has to define for itself
what it means to move the needle forward.
When you study the music, you get black history by default. And so no other craft could carry as many words
as rap music.
I try to intertwine that and make that create
whatever I'm supposed to send out to the universe.
A rapper, you know, for the longest period of time has gone through phases.
I love the word. I hate what it's become, you know,
to this generation, the way they visualize it.
Its narrative kind of, like, has gotten away
and spun away from, I guess, the ascension of black people.
Hey, I'm Deion Cole from Blackist.
Hey, everybody, this is your man Fred Hammond,
and you're watching Roland Martin, my man, Unfiltered. Hey, folks, welcome back to Roller Mark Unfiltered.
The folks in Haiti, man, cannot get a break.
Of course, weeks after the assassination of the nation's president, a massive earthquake, 7.2, hit that island, hit that country, folks, leaving more than 1,300 people dead.
Significant devastation in the country of Haiti.
Joining us right now is Bokshid Edmond. He is the ambassador to in the country of Haiti. Joining us right now is
Bokshid Edmond. He is the ambassador to the United States of Haiti. Ambassador Edmond,
glad to have you back on Roller Martin Unfiltered. What is the situation there? Has the death
toll been updated? And what kind of assistance is Haiti asking of the international community? Ambassador, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you now.
More than 1,300 people have perished. Has there been an update on the death toll? And also,
what are you asking of the international community in terms of assistance?
I think the death toll now is 1,400 and more than 7,000 wounded.
And what we can act for now is the continued international assistance to help us manage this crisis.
Because a certain part of the country has been
completely destroyed by this powerful earthquake.
And now I believe the most important thing is since we have already received some assistance
in terms of search and rescue, and I think now we need to concentrate on medical supplies because the hospital were already overwhelmed by the COVID
but now they are facing a situation
where they need more medical equipments
and more, you know, meds and so on.
So now the most critical part is to assist the wounded
and to assist those who were saved and, you know, to give them the good care that they need.
What percentage of the country has been impacted by this earthquake?
I believe it's three geographical departments, the southern part of the country, which is
three geographical departments.
I believe that we can tell about around more than six or five, between four to five million
people.
But the areas, most of the remote areas where it's very difficult to attend. Now the assistance
is needed mostly and as we are getting from the U.S. Cross Guard, some help with helicopters
to get access to those places where very remote areas where people are trapped and to bring
them to the cities where they can receive medical attention.
You talked about hospitals being overwhelmed by COVID.
Are you setting up remote hospitals?
How is that going?
And do you have Doctors Without Borders and others or folks also coming in to provide
assistance?
Yes, Doctors Without boarders are there.
And we hope to receive some medical help from Israel by tomorrow morning.
And then some hospital chiefs are being conceived to see how they can help with the situation
because the card hospitals are overwhelmed and they are full.
Now, I believe the efforts are being concentrated and trying to make sure hospitals
and to make sure that those people who need attention get what they really need to do.
There's always a lot of questions around people want to help, who should they work with?
Are there any particular entities, specific entities that the Haitian government is asking
people to give to, as opposed to what often happens is there are a lot of different people
who say, give to us, give to us.
And so are there particular, especially for African-Americans,
people are asking us, how can we help?
Where are you directing people to give?
Well, I understand it's a very tricky situation because we experienced it in 2010
because for the current moment, what we are trying to do,
we are trying to avoid, we are trying to avoid
to make the same mistake again. Because now we just don't want to direct people
to any organization like this without making sure that those are credible
organizations. We are currently working with the Ministry of
Planning and some other entities because what we want to do, we don't want to
receive any goods, any material, because what we want to do, we don't want to receive any goods,
any material whatsoever.
What we want to encourage people to give,
to give their financial support,
when those people and the women that we have,
and they can get assistance to rebuild their lives,
because we just don't want to collect things
and things that are not not necessary now the most important
thing is if you can help do it with your financial support and we are going to put a list very soon
and certainly i can my office will share it with you as well and that list will be on the one side
of the embassy and so uh the contributions can be made to those places. But for now, we just don't want or we are not ready yet to name some specific organizations
because we want to make sure those organizations are credible and people can trust them.
All right.
Ambassador Booksheet, Ambassador Hayes of the United States, we certainly appreciate you joining us.
We look forward to having you back and whatever assistance that our audience can provide, we certainly are able to.
We hope to do so. As someone who on my mother's father's side, they migrated from Haiti to the United States in the 1800s. And so certainly there are a lot of folks in this country
who have descendants from Haiti.
And of course, we also know about Haiti gaining its freedom from slavery.
And so it's important that we also support the brothers and sisters there.
Thank you so very much, Roland.
I really appreciate your assistance and your help.
And certainly I'll be more than happy to come back
and to talk to your audience about what is being done now.
All right, we certainly appreciate it.
Thank you so very much.
Thank you.
I wanna go to my panel right now, folks,
and bring them in.
We'll join my Avis Jones, DeWeaver, also Omokongo Dabinga.
He's with us as well, as well as Michael Brown.
Glad to have all three of you here.
Avis, I want to start with you.
That last part really is important because, look, whenever these things happen,
historically you've had people say give to the Red Cross,
but they've had significant issues when it comes to actually providing the resources there.
And so one of the things that I've been doing is reaching out to Haitian Americans and say,
where do you want African Americans to be giving and what type of support?
We also know there are African American and African American organizations
and also provide resources and things along those lines.
That to me is also important as well.
So we are sure that our dollars and our goods are going to use and going to credible organizations.
That is so, so critical.
As you mentioned, you know, we've been burned before in terms of providing support to the Red Cross, thinking that it would make it to the Haitian people,
only to find that there were all sorts of problems going on there.
And so I completely agree with you.
We need to reach out to Haitian Americans,
organizations that have relationships with people on the ground in Haiti,
to make sure that we are there in a way that can actually make sure
that our dollars are
making the difference for the people who so desperately need it right now. Haiti has such a
powerful history. We owe so much to the people of Haiti. To me, it is just so imperative that we
make sure that we support them right now as they find themselves again in an hour of need.
You also have torrential rains with tropical storm that is impacting recovery efforts there.
And Michael, it's like it's one thing after another. And you just sit there and go, man,
can Haiti get a break? Apparently not. And as my heart clearly goes out to our brothers and sisters in Haiti,
I see that you have been shopping at
Goodwill Enterprises to get
your clothing.
And as you have been shopping
at Goodwill,
I mean, you can get nice stuff there for
like a dime, for a quarter, and
I see that you took advantage of it. So I understand. You know, you can get nice stuff there for like a dime, for a quarter, and I see that you took advantage of it, so I understand.
You know, you're right about Haiti, you know, not getting a break.
And I guess the question is, yeah, the United States clearly steps up for folks in the region in this hemisphere. I don't understand, and I could
be wrong, and maybe, you know, feel free to correct me. Does France do their part in Haiti
when it's time for search and rescue and sending medical aid and things that they need to recover?
Because it seems like the burden is always on this hemisphere with
the United States and Canada and some European countries.
I just don't see France doing what they're supposed to do.
On the Congo, look, you heard the ambassador say Israel is going to be providing assistance.
You know, historically, Cuba has provided assistance as well.
Michael makes a great point.
The country that Haiti, frankly, had to pay back a lot of money for gaining its independence, they should be stepping up as well.
Oh, most definitely.
And that's the case with many of these former colonial areas.
On many levels, Haiti is actually still paying France now for what it did.
I'm talking financially as well as politically.
And Michael is right.
These countries often don't step up.
My parents are from the Congo.
And, you know, we have a history there as relates to the Belgians who left us with one college graduate in the entire country.
And so that history is real.
And I hope that the people of France also put pressure on his government to also support it look we have to
make sure because one of the things you also mentioned with the ambassador is so important
and dr weaver i mentioned it as well is that the history is so important and so many times we see
haiti in the news it's related to something that's disastrous but we got to start ingraining in the
minds of people especially black folks here and internationally as well,
that it was what happened with Tucson Louverture
that led to the Louisiana Purchase
what helped the United States grow and expand exponentially
with Jefferson and the like.
And once people start to realize
that there's that real glory in history
and that has been part of a spirit of revolution,
I think that many of us, not any of us here,
cause we obviously know the story,
will stop looking at Haiti as a charity case and look at it as an extension of Black revolution
throughout the diaspora that needs our support in order to get where it needs to go.
And so I'm also glad that the ambassador said to wait until they provide a place where we can go and support financially,
because too many of us want to just send money elsewhere.
But we have to really wait and be patient to make sure we're supporting our people. Absolutely. And folks, it is absolute
devastation there. Again, you heard the ambassador say more than 1,400 have been confirmed dead in
Haiti. They are continuing the rescue efforts.
And so you've got the earthquake.
Then, of course, you have the tropical storm that has downpour of rain that has descended upon the island as well.
And so it's just problem after problem. And so we're certainly going to provide, once we get that list, provide the list of organizations that you can actually give to, whether it's economic resources or whether it's goods.
We want to make sure that credible organizations are getting those resources to the people there who absolutely need it.
And so that's absolutely going to be our focus.
We're going to take another break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about Afghanistan.
Turmoil exists there with the United States pulling troops out.
The Taliban has completely taken over the country.
What changed 20 years later?
Two trillion dollars?
Nearly 3,000 American troops killed?
Was it worth it?
We'll talk to national security expert Malcolm Nance
and also Congresswoman Barbara Lee,
the only member of Congress to vote against the invasion of Afghanistan.
Looks like she knew what she was talking about 20 years ago.
You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered, broadcasting live from Southern California at the 8th Annual Cynthia and the Trainers.
Let me go off classic. Classic. We'll be back in a moment.
I believe that people our age have lost the ability to focus the discipline on the art of organizing.
The challenges, there's so many of them and they're complex.
And we need to be moving to address them.
But I'm able to say, watch out, Tiffany.
I know this road.
That is so freaking dope. Ha ha ha ha ha ha! put another nail in the coffin of racism. You talk about awakening America, it led to a historic summer of protest.
I hope our younger generation don't ever forget
that nonviolence is soul force.
Christ does. Hey, I'm Cupid, the maker of the Cupid Shuffle and the Wham Dance.
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Over the weekend, folks,
massive, massive chaos
in Afghanistan
as the Taliban completely
overran Afghan forces and took over that country.
They are in control of that country.
You have the United States desperately trying to occupy not only its personnel,
but also Afghans who help the United States.
You have people literally running, filling up the runways in Kabul,
preventing planes from actually taking off.
Many are blaming the United States for not knowing that this was going to happen.
It was in July when President Biden literally said what you're seeing was not going to happen.
But in fact, it did. Earlier today, he spoke to the nation and said if he had to make a decision again,
he absolutely would continue to pull
American troops out of Afghanistan.
American troops cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that Afghan forces
are not willing to fight for themselves.
We spent over a trillion dollars.
We trained and equipped an Afghan military force of some 300,000 strong, incredibly well
equipped, a force larger in size than the militaries of many of our NATO allies.
We gave them every tool they could need. We paid their salaries, provided
for the maintenance of their air force, something the Taliban doesn't have. Taliban does not
have an air force. We provided close air support. We gave them every chance to determine their own future. We could not provide them was the will to fight for that future.
A lot of blame has been going around.
You've got Republicans who are blasting President Joe Biden,
folks comparing this to the fall of Saigon.
Keep in mind, it was Donald Trump who signed the agreement
to pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan by May of 2021.
Don't forget, Donald Trump wanted to invite the Taliban to Camp David.
Yeah, don't forget what actually happened.
How foul is the Republican Party? actually disabled a page on their website that touted Donald Trump's agreement with Afghanistan and the information regarding the Taliban.
Sounds about right. Joining us right now is Malcolm Nance.
Malcolm, of course, is an MSNBC contributor.
He also is the author of the book, The Plot to Betray America, How Team Trump Embraced Our Enemies, Compromise Our Security, and How We Can Fix It. Malcolm, 20 years, $2 trillion spent,
nearly 3,000 soldiers killed in the country. There are folks, some who are saying,
we gained nothing out of this. The Taliban is back in charge. Do you agree with that assessment?
Was it wise for the United States to go into Afghanistan?
And what the hell happened here that the intelligence community thought that it would be 60, 90 days that this would actually happen when it was a mere several days?
Well, first off, we had a mission to go into Afghanistan in 2001, which was to take down the support structure of al-Qaeda, which, by the way,
at that time in the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, was actually running the training programs for the
Taliban. They essentially were organizing and maintaining professionalism in the Taliban's
military forces at that time. That mission was accomplished relatively quickly. We routed al-Qaeda's forces.
And then by February 2002, the Bush administration completely changed its sights about what it
actually was doing. They started going, of course, planning to invade Iraq. And all of the resources
that had flowed into Afghanistan, all of the
forces that were in that region completely shifted away from Afghanistan towards Iraq.
Now, it was always folly to think that we were going to come in there and create our own country
based on our values, our morals, despite how the people on the ground live there.
It is a very simple country.
I went in very soon after 9-11, right after the Tora Bora operations.
And it was very clear to me that the people on the ground there wanted some fundamental
things that just worked well with the Taliban, the right to live by their own culture, within their culture,
because the Taliban were Afghans.
The right to worship their God in the way that they wanted to,
which was fundamental Islamic.
And of course, to maintain the prosperity that they could understand
from the culture they lived in and get future prosperity, which for them
was getting their sons married, right, having children, grandchildren, getting their sons
married.
They were not looking to go drive around in Camaros. The most they wanted perhaps was
a few more goats, perhaps a donkey, even off in the pie in the sky, a pickup truck to help
their little farms. But that is not something we offered. We offered to restructure the entire country
precisely like the Soviet Union did when they invaded Afghanistan in the late 1970s
and wanted to remake this. That image of trying to remake it is what created this one-year cycle every year of saying everything's going great, the armed forces are holding it, we're rebuilding Afghanistan.
You know, when the number $2 trillion dropped that was the effort that we put into Afghanistan, it's absolutely phenomenal that we did that. That money went into the coffers of the political elite,
the con men, and the billionaires who were all living in Abu Dhabi and Dubai when they flew out
in their executive jets here a couple of days ago. To answer your second question, the armed forces
of Afghanistan was a paper army. Quite a bit of it was. Yes, there were many fighters who were very good.
Yes, there were a lot of interpreters and logistics support people who helped us greatly.
But for the most part, many of the officers were corrupt. Many of the senior leadership
in the armed forces were corrupt. The military, all the money, $60, $70 billion we were putting
in a year, that money was just getting stolen.
An enormous amount of that money went to U.S. government contractors.
And when we ended our operations, all of those contractors supporting the Afghan army disappeared.
The Afghans cut a deal with the Taliban.
That's how this country collapsed in a matter of days. The Taliban in some provinces were being, you know,
were cut these deals with the local tribes, tribal leaders, and perhaps even some of the
provincial governors, and were sending representative groups of men, some of their
terror cells that were underground, 20, 30, 40 guys going to the province house and declaring
the province captured. There was no real war or linear battlefield,
showing mobile battles of them actually winning victories. The few places they did attack,
the soldiers left and went home. That should sound familiar, because that's what the Iraqi
army did in 2001 or 2002 when we invaded Afghanistan, 2003.
Sorry about that. So. So. So.
But then you hear the fear of what's going to happen to women and children there.
We already are seeing some of these videos. You already see people talk about the human rights abuses. And so. So. So then the question is, what should have been done? First of all, was our military properly prepared to extract people from the country?
Could we have avoided these scenes?
Should the United States military have sealed off this airport and had it under its control to be able to coordinate flights out and things along those lines. What should have been done to avoid the chaos over the weekend and what's still happening right now?
I'm sorry, you are always going to have that chaos.
So now it's time for a little history lesson, because one of the things that I mentioned on air over the last couple of days is quite simply this.
Americans are culturally ignorant of other peoples, and they don't understand that those peoples have to vote. And what happens out there,
and many of those, again, the reason that that airport was surrounded so quickly and flooded,
many of those people who are Taliban today were Afghan National Army three days ago, right?
So should we have done this? Yes. There could have
been an enormous quantity of preparation. But the United States Armed Forces cannot bend space and
time to our will and suddenly have 100 transport aircraft there. We had been mobilizing a few days
ago, three or four days ago, to bring in 6,000 to 7,000 troops into that region. But many of the commanders surrendered their forces. The government left. The Taliban took
their few hundred men or, you know, and drove in from Jalalabad or came up from Kandahar,
which is an eight-hour drive, and were there before any resources could flow into that place.
Should we have been better prepared?
Absolutely.
Will Joe Biden have to take a hit for that?
He said the buck stops with him.
But the most important part of this story is the fact that this was negotiated years ago by the Trump administration.
They gave the Taliban Afghanistan. The Taliban did not attack us or kill U.S. forces as part
of that agreement in exchange for 5,000 of the most hardcore Taliban members and leadership
to be released back into the Taliban. And they are all there. The president of Taliban,
of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan today, is a person who was released under that deal.
The Taliban were just waiting because it was given to them. The Afghan people who were there,
the tribal leadership, were waiting for them as well and waiting to surrender.
So we could not have—I mean, unless you listen to guys like me, right, the mid-level intelligence
guys, the low-level intelligence guys who say, these guys are going to run it the first shot.
Well, we had more faith in that.
But as Secretary of Defense Austin said, you can't buy faith and you can't, you know, you can't train in faith and you can't buy loyalty.
And their loyalty is to their immediate families. They are now going to drop those uniforms, go home, buy a couple of more camels, you know, a couple of more goats with the money they had.
And before you think that that's a stereotype, that is a real thing.
OK. And they are going to live their lives.
The Taliban will establish a national government across the across the tribal areas and they will go right back to 2001.
But, Roland, one last point. I mentioned history. This happened to the British in 1842. The only
problem is, in the first British-Afghan war, is that all British forces in Kabul were slaughtered,
slaughtered, only three survivors out of a 2,000-man force, and they let those three survivors go
into Pakistan to let them know what they had done to them. The British tried this in the 1890s again,
the Russians in the 1980s. Look, you just have to learn these lessons. Don't go to a place
that you don't understand. It should have been Americans that spoke Dari and Pashto,
not having to hire interpreters.
We don't do that.
We run in and we use, you know, with cultural ignorance,
and we expect things to go our way.
Malcolm Nance, always a pleasure.
Thanks for the breakdown. We appreciate it.
My pleasure.
Years ago, there was only one member of Congress who had the courage to vote against the war in Afghanistan.
She was the congresswoman from Oakland, California, Congresswoman Barbara Lee.
This was the speech that she gave on the floor of the House of Representatives at that lone vote.
Mr. Speaker, members, I rise today really with a very heavy heart.
One that is filled with sorrow for the families and the loved ones who were killed and injured this week.
Only the most foolish and the most callous would not understand the grief that has really gripped our people and millions across the world. This unspeakable act on the United States has really forced me, however,
to rely on my moral compass, my conscience, and my God for direction.
September 11th changed the world.
Our deepest fears now haunt us. Yet I am convinced that military action will not prevent further acts of international
terrorism against the United States. This is a very complex and complicated matter.
Now this resolution will pass, although we all know that the President can wage a war even without it. However difficult this vote may be,
some of us must urge the use of restraint.
Our country is in a state of mourning.
Some of us must say, let's step back for a moment,
let's just pause just for a minute
and think through the implications of our actions today.
So that this does not spiral out of control.
Now I have agonized over this vote, but I came to grips with it today.
And I came to grips with opposing this resolution during the very painful, yet very beautiful memorial service,
as a member of the clergy so eloquently said,
as we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.
Thank you, and I yield the balance of my time.
And joining us right now is Congresswoman Barbara Lee.
Congresswoman, glad to have you back on Roller Martin Unfiltered.
Congresswoman, can you hear me?
Okay, I can't hear her, folks.
I see her, but I can't hear her.
She can hear me her, folks. I see her, but I can't hear her. She can hear me.
All right.
All right.
Let's double-check your system to see if you're muted.
Just make sure you're not muted, Congresswoman.
Now I can hear you.
Now I got you.
Now we got you.
Now we got you.
Now we got you. Now we got you. All right, got you now we got you now we got you now we got you now we got you all right cool now we got you um first and foremost um when you see when you see those video clips
uh from this weekend when you see the terror in the eyes of people
when you see the desperation trying to get out of that country? What was going through your mind?
I'm feeling right now like I felt on September 14, 2001. Devastated in so many respects, Roland.
These people, our troops for 20 years have done everything we asked them to do. The Afghan allies, the people who supported
the U.S. presence in Afghanistan, they're under threat of death. Our American diplomats,
our citizens, NGOs, businesses, you know, it's terrifying what's taking place. But I have to
tell you, we have got to do everything we can do. And that's what I'm thinking about now is how do we, in my capacity as chair of the subcommittee that funds a lot of our visas,
special immigrant visas and all of the diplomatic and development stools of our foreign policy,
what I can do more to help this administration with these evacuations, because we have got to do something.
People are desperate. They're dying.
They're hanging onto planes. This is untenable. And so that's how I'm feeling right now. That's
what I'm working on day and night. And also, of course, you know, I hope everyone recognizes that
there's no military solution in Afghanistan. And the president's absolutely correct in his decision and what he did,
but the movement out and the planning was, in many respects, short of disasters.
So how do we resolve this particular issue here?
There are a lot of people, obviously, who are concerned about the treatment of women in Afghanistan.
But we also are dealing with, there are numerous countries where we can be angry and disagree with human rights violations.
Look what's happening in Myanmar right now, what's happening in Malaysia, the prime minister resigned,
what's happening in other countries. And so how do we deal with that where our presence kept the Taliban from being in control?
But the option really was do you stay there for the next 100 years
or do you simply say, Afghanistan, you've got to take control of your country.
We can't be big brother for forever.
Look, we can't nation-build it, bro, at all.
This is an example of a presence, a military presence, where there is no military solution attempted to nation-build. We owe the people of Afghanistan
support from after we invaded the country and did everything that we did. Our soldiers did
everything that this country asked them to do. So we owe them a debt of gratitude by helping them
with the development, with women's education, women's empowerment, everything, schools,
you know,
everything that we needed to do to help them. But we should not have been there for 20 years as a military occupation, Roland. And so, yes, we stand for human rights throughout the world,
but we can't nation build. And so wherever there are violations of human rights, we need to say so
and we need to engage in the mechanisms that would encourage these
violations of human rights to stop.
But we cannot occupy a country militarily when there's no military solution.
And then now, as with Afghanistan, we see what's happened.
When you do occupy a country for 20 years, there's no military solution.
Now we're faced with a terrible disaster.
And so we need to really learn the lessons of Afghanistan and know that, you know,
Congress has been missing in action. I've been trying to get Congress to revisit this blank
check that was given. And Congress has to really put some restraints on military adventures around
the world. That has nothing to do with protecting our national security.
The president can always use force if our national security is at threat.
He has that responsibility and duty under the Constitution.
But Congress authorizes the use of force, and we have to do that very selectively, targeted,
so we don't end up where we are today in other countries.
Last question for you before I go to my panel and each one of them ask you a question.
What does it also say that this nation had no problem, Congress had no problem spending
$2 trillion in Afghanistan?
Say that again, Rowan.
Say that again.
I said, what do we say to folks when Congress had no problem spending $2 trillion
in Afghanistan, but God forbid, want to put together a program of $2 trillion to actually
spend in American cities where you're dealing with the poor and impoverished, where you're
dealing with high rates of infant mortality? What does it say that this country has no problem
spending that
type of money when it comes to the military? But when you talk about non-military, then all of a
sudden it's, oh, we can't afford these things. It says a lot about our priorities, but it also
says a lot about why so many people are living on the edge in this country and why we have now
a military budget of over $740 billion, which is excessive.
We have enough resources, a budget in the military that could warrant a 10 to 15 percent cut right now,
which would invest $75 to $80 billion in human infrastructure, building our own nation,
helping people who have been shut out and marginalized for so long.
So people need to rise up and say, stop it.
You know, we have other tools in our toolbox, Roland.
You know, I chair the subcommittee on appropriations that is responsible for a $62 billion budget
for diplomacy and development.
But yet the defense spending is $740 billion.
It's totally out of balance.
And so the public, we have to educate the public
so people know they have to make sure their members of Congress understand that they're
not going to tolerate this military first Pentagon spending budget at the expense of their
quality of life. But also it's not at the expense of our national security. So we've got to make sure members of Congress are not afraid of reducing the military budget,
because that's the only way we're going to bring some sanity into our federal budget and our priorities.
Questions from my panelists. I'm going to start with Uma Congo.
Your question for Councilman Barberley.
First of all, thank you so much for your courage and bravery.
It's been amazing to watch over the years.
I wanted to know, what do you feel going into 2022?
What is the best way for us as just regular citizens to keep the pressure on Congress,
to make sure that some of the things that you've been talking about are actually taking place,
particularly when you talk about reallocation of the budget, education issues,
and just getting them to prioritize what should be happening in our country that's not.
Sure. Thank you so much for that question, because that is the question,
how we hold elected officials accountable in between elections.
And I don't see enough African Americans and people of color
lobbying their members of Congress, saying, no, do not vote for this, or yes, vote for that.
And so we have to have a lobby operation going on, a people's lobby, you know, that holds members
of Congress and other elected officials accountable to promises that they make during the election, but also to public service, to what they need in terms of their
daily lives.
I mean, this is—they pay—people pay taxes regardless.
And so some of those tax dollars should come back to our communities for schools, for housing,
for health care, for climate change initiatives, energy- energy efficient initiatives, and for job creation.
And so you can't just elect people and let them go at it.
You have to hold them accountable each and every day.
I hear from my constituents, let me tell you,
I always say my district is one of the most enlightened
districts in the country because I hear from them
each and every day about issues like, this is important.
We know this vote's coming up.
What do you think about it? How are you going to vote? We engage constantly. And that's what people need to do with their elected officials. Thank you.
Amos, your question.
Congresswoman, wonderful to see you. As horrible as this situation is, the aspect of it that worries me the most is what will
happen to the women and girls who are left in Afghanistan, and for all intents and purposes,
their livelihoods will be sort of banished back to the Stone Age. What do you think we can do at this point to, in some way, help to provide
some humanitarian help to the women and girls who have been left behind?
Sure. And let me tell you, that terrifies me also. And I've worked over the years on
supporting the Afghan women through a variety of programs and funding
priorities. And to see now a moment where the women of Afghanistan are going to have to go back
into the dark ages is morally wrong. It's offensive and it's tragic and it's dangerous.
And so we have to do everything we can do. And I'm glad that the president talked about every
dime in terms of humanitarian assistance, development assistance.
But we've got to work now with the international community, because if the Taliban is the governing body, they're running the government in Afghanistan.
How in the world do we engage diplomatically with the Taliban?
And so we're going to have to have an international strategy,
one now, right now, for the protection of women and girls. We've got to evacuate the women,
especially those who have been activists, who've been speaking out, who have been leading on so
many fronts. We've got to protect them, look out for their security and safety immediately. That's
the immediate emergency that we have to address. But long term, we have to come together with the world and figure out how in the world we're going to protect women and make sure that the gains that they have achieved continue and also protect them because we know the Taliban and we know how ruthless they are.
So it's something the world has to come to grips with and develop a strategy around.
Michael Brown, your question for Congresswoman Lee.
Congresswoman, how are you?
Hi, Michael. Good to see you.
I see you look the exact same as you did in 2001.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Five grandchildren later. Thank you.
You're welcome. You had mentioned diplomacy.
And if you were on one of the diplomatic teams,
how do you use diplomacy with a group of folks that are hard to trust,
that either lie or don't give the full story or don't tell you where people are hiding
or if they're abetting folks?
How do you deal with folks that you want to, in good faith, trust, but you can't?
Well, I don't like the quote.
I guess it was Ronald Reagan, but it was trust and verify.
Trust and verify.
I think it's extremely important. And I don't even, in my work on the Hill. And so you have to establish some rules of engagement.
And you have to be able to verify that those rules are being complied with.
But in the world, in the diplomatic world, in the political world, trust is not, I think,
a concept that you can engage in like you do perhaps in your personal life. I mean,
you have to be able to work with people and to believe that they're going to live up to their
part of the deal. And I'm glad, again, going to President Biden, that's what he's doing,
living up to his part of the deal, what he said he was going to do, he's doing.
So you have to believe people will do the right thing based on your agreements and your engagement with them.
So I don't think trust is the exact proper term or concept when you're engaging in international politics.
Understood. Thank you very much. Thank you, Roland.
All right, Congressman Barbara Lee. Congressman Barbara Lee, we certainly appreciate you joining us.
We will be watching closely what happens in Afghanistan over the next few days.
Thank you.
Nice being with you, Roland.
Take care of yourself.
All right.
Thanks a bunch.
All right, folks, got to go to a break.
We come back.
We'll talk with an infectious disease expert about COVID-19.
It is exploding across the country.
Folks, what is going on
and what are these red states doing?
Also, black farmers continue
to have issues when it comes to
getting their payments from the federal government.
And we'll be talking with more of our
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This gorgeous shot right here overlooking the golf course.
It has been a fantastic day here in Southern California.
And so we're going to go to break on that shot.
We'll be back in a moment. When you study the music, you get black history by default.
And so no other craft could carry as many words as rap music.
I try to intertwine that and make that create
whatever I'm supposed to send out to the universe. A rapper, you know, for the longest period of time,
has gone through phases.
I love the word.
I hate what it's become, you know, to this generation,
the way they visualize it.
Its narrative kind of like has gotten away and spun away
from, I guess, the ascension of black people.
Floyd's death hopefully put another nail in the coffin of racism.
You talk about awakening America,
it led to a historic summer of protest.
I hope our younger generation don't ever forget that nonviolence
is soul force.
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This is Jay Ellis, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks, that is a gorgeous view of Spanish Hills Golf and Country Club
here in Camarillo, California,
the site of the 8th Annual CFP Entertainment Celebrity Golf Classic.
We are here.
Had a fantastic time playing today.
Folks, we're outdoors, of course, social distancing, trying to stay safe here.
But all across the country, cases are exploding, and it is really happening in this, we call it this red belt.
Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas.
Joining us right now is Dr. Alexia Gaffney.
She's an infectious disease specialist.
And just so people understand how maddening this is, Doc, you have the governor of Texas, this idiot, Greg Abbott,
who now is threatening to pull the liquor license of restaurants that require COVID vaccination proof to enter the restaurant.
I mean, but he's the same person begging neighboring states,
hey, can you take free of ICU beds for citizens of Texas?
I mean, that to me is the stupidity,
where you have school districts and restaurants trying to be responsible, and this idiot, you know, running after all these right-wing lunatics,
is saying, oh, I'm going to snatch your liquor license.
And in Austin, I just saw the story.
Two restaurants in Austin, Texas, have stopped doing it because the Texas Alcoholic Beverage
Commission threatened to pull their liquor license.
Unbelievable.
These people literally have blood on their hands, and they're completely unbothered by
it.
And apart from their political gain,
it's like, what is the sense in all of this?
Why would you put people's lives on the line?
Why would you now put children's lives on the line?
And why would you do it so willfully and so maliciously?
What is being done here is absolutely dangerous.
And when school districts and businesses
try to work around these mandates,
or really the lack of any sensible mandates, they're now being punished for it. It's despicable.
Right now, we're seeing more pediatric hospitalizations for COVID-19 than we've seen
in the entirety of the pandemic. And it is, as you said, it's in the red states. It's in the
places in the country where there are the least amount of individuals vaccinated or fully vaccinated for COVID-19.
And children 12 and under or under 12 can't yet receive the vaccine.
So in these southern states where children have already returned to school, where teachers may or may not be vaccinated, where it's unlawful to enforce a mask mandation.
We're seeing schools shut down already within the first two weeks or within the first three days of
school because of outbreaks and rampant exposure to COVID-19. And it is dangerous and it is life
threatening. This whole false notion that children were not at significant risk for COVID-19 infection in
the early phase of the pandemic was simply true and unfounded. When COVID first hit the United
States, we pulled our children out of school and we protected them. So we closed up the spaces where
children most rampantly spread infection, and we protected them. So we did not see cases. And now people are trying to
utilize or falsely utilize this data, give a false impression that children can sort of withstand
COVID-19 infection. And we've thrown the children into the fire. Even though most children may do
well with COVID-19 infection, it is completely senseless that any child should lose their life to this infection when it can be prevented, when it can be avoided.
And they are pulling out all the stops to pretty much ensure that people will get sick,
be hospitalized, and die from this infection. And it is senseless, and it's dangerous,
and it's very disheartening to see as a health care professional.
Here are two tweets that I think sums it up.
Tennessee Governor Bill Lee announces executive order that allows parents to opt out of local mask mandates imposed by school boards and independent health departments.
This happened on the same day that he activated the National Guard to help hospital care for COVID patients.
This is, you know, cognitive dissonance at its finest.
And why are we allowing the parents to choose for their children when the parents do not know any better?
How can these parents decide that they know better than public health officials, that they know better than epidemiologists, that they know better than physicians, that they know better than scientists and actual researchers, not the people sitting on their toilet bowl Googling and watching Facebook videos and watching YouTube videos, but the people who have actually studied and understand how a pandemic works, how an
epidemic works, how we can control the spread of infection, how we are deferring to parents who
don't have their children's best interests at heart is beyond me. And in our communities,
we've seen people have their children removed from their care or removed from their custody for
lesser offenses. And we have these people who are willfully
putting their children's life and health and wellbeing
on the line to, I don't even know why they're doing this.
It's not to prove a point, it's really just to
defy the people who have their best interests at stake.
So now we have some folks who are really looking out
for the best interests of everybody, and then we have other people who are really looking out for the best interests of everybody. And then we have
other people who are just willfully defying that. And we're at a complete split and it's costing
people their lives. You have healthcare professionals who are burning out, especially
in and around the Tennessee area. You have healthcare professionals saying, listen,
we did all we could in the first wave of this pandemic, and we're doing all we can right now. But right now, we're exhausted, we're burnt out, we're ready to quit, and we're just
over it because all of this is preventable. And so it's literally like a civil war that's going on
between those who are trying to protect the health and well-being of both the vaccinated people and
the unvaccinated people and those who are vulnerable
but not yet candidates for vaccine, i.e. our children and some of the most vulnerable adults
in our population. And you have the people on the other side who just don't frankly seem to
give a damn. There's not a better way to say it. Dr. Gaffney, we always appreciate it. Thank you
so very much. One of the reasons why we continue
to have Black health experts on here and not what I call all of these Google physicians.
Yes. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Thanks a lot. Thanks a
lot. Thank you very much. You do the same. A was on that particular point. I'm really sick of these people who don't even know what the hell is in an Advil.
But when they when they have a head hurts, they'll take an Advil.
But all of a sudden they want to question a covid vaccine.
I mean, really, for real, it's so infuriating because it's not like we can just take these people and plop them on an island someplace so that they could just infect each other and have a good old time with spreading around the Delta variant and every other variant that's going to come as a result of their stupidity.
OK, no.
Unfortunately, they're mixed among us. And when you have them in governor's offices, where they are literally,
I would believe, honestly, they're just playing this for their own political gain.
To me, it just boils down to nothing less than plain evil. Because this type of ridiculousness,
where on the one hand, you're going to undermine the success of businesses for you to make a
political point, while at the same time you're
putting people's lives in danger and asking other states to clean up your mess for you
is absolutely ridiculous. You know, I really hope people are paying attention
and somehow are able to overcome all the challenges that's going on with the voting laws in Texas right now to be able to get this complete, insane evildoer and any others like him out of office. say, oh, absolutely not. I'm not taking a vaccine. And I had somebody who was saying that for me,
look, I got God protecting me and a person responded. So when you get sick, you go into the
church. That's a good one. That's a good one. Look, the way I see it, I say, you know, God sent
us the scientists and the doctors that helped create the vaccine.
And so it's like, where do you really want to draw the line as it relates to how much you're going to look to the sky, you know, for assistance?
At the end of the day, it's really sad because what Dr. Gaffney said, which is really important for us to pay attention to,
is the fact that kids were generally protected last year because we kept them home.
Now we're just throwing them
out there. And like they say, when two elephants battle, it's the grass that gets trampled.
And it's really unfortunate. And I think that right now what we're seeing is that these governors,
these Congress folks, these guys, if they have kids, none of them, their kids are going to the
schools that are going to be affected by it. They're in private schools that have mask mandates,
and they're completely separated from everything that's going on.
As Dr. Weaver said, these people are evil. And I don't know if enough voters who support them
are going to wake up. And if we don't get this voting rights issue fixed, these guys are going
to end up staying in power for the long term, and we're going to have more deaths. And so we need to
get up. We need to act up. We need to hit the streets. And I commend all of the businesses that are out there trying to make the right decisions
who are fighting these governors. And yes, Texas Supreme Court sided with Abbott.
This might go to the higher courts. And I'm hoping that given some of the things that we saw with
Coney Barrett, we might be able to get some justice with the Supreme Court if some of these
cases make it there. Fingers crossed. but it shouldn't have to get this far.
Tell you, it's crazy,
Mike Brown, and I swear, I'm telling you,
I was at the Kim Babyface
Music Soulchild concert. I dropped in Houston
and this sister comes up to me from Arizona
and she's like, why won't you have people
on your show who give the other side of the story?
I said, I'm sorry, what's the other side? She says,
well, I'm not vaccinated. I said, I'm sorry, what's the other side? She says, well, I'm not vaccinated.
I said, well, first of all, back the hell up.
Her ass unvaccinated, got a mask dangling from her wrist.
I said, I need you to back your ass up.
And she says, well, you know, I have a pharmacist,
and he doesn't believe in the vaccine.
I said, well, first of all, he ain't a doctor.
I said, that's the first thing.
But she said, it's the other side of the story.
I said, yeah, death, that's the flip
side. I'm telling you, it's
been tripping me out, the folks I've been
running into. But I literally told her,
back your ass up. You ain't gonna be
in my face talking to me about you ain't taking the
COVID vaccine with a mad dangling from
your damn wrist. Uh-uh, back the hell up.
Gone. Gone. Back up.
You know, I find
it interesting.
I'm wondering, clearly, I think we saw some of the footage last week, and I think you may have shown some of the footage, in Tennessee, and it was like a school board meeting, and the people in the parking lot were obviously yelling at folks that wanted to support the mask mandate. And I'm wondering this correlation between,
you know, I hate to assume, but I'm assuming those were Trump supporters in the parking lot.
And then with Black folks that are not Trump supporters that are still believing in the same conspiracies that the Trump supporter is. I mean, it's very interesting to me how that has occurred in this political dynamic.
I mean, for example, I mean, I don't even know if some of these Trump supporters know or even black folks that are believing in some of these conspiracy theories.
Trump got the shot. He got vaccinated.
You know, he wanted to protect himself.
Why he doesn't tell the world that or doesn't do his own
PSA, I don't know.
Well, we all
know because they like
talking to stupid people. That's what they like doing.
My next guest is not
one of those stupid people, but he does
like to call out stupid people.
Y'all, joining us right now here
at Spanning Hills Golf and Country Club is Dio Hughley.
What's up, man?
Dio, good to see you.
Good to see you, too.
I've been following you on Instagram where you've been trying to be very patient with some of these.
Simple-ass niggas.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I'm trying.
I'm trying.
You know, at a certain point, like in the beginning, I can understand a level of reticence.
All the questions that, but now we have enough data for you to be making a decision.
And if your decision is no decision, then I can respect that.
But there are a couple of things you need to do.
One is to stay away from people and to accept the fact that you are drained on the system.
So if I think the funny thing I see about people who aren't going to take the vaccine, they don't go to Facebook when they get sick.
They don't go to Instagram when they get sick.
They go right to the hospital, and they become a drain on society.
And I think that if you have the courage of your convictions,
like all these people, you won't wear a mask, a guy will protect you,
but you don't have a problem carrying a gun.
Like, what, is he busy that day?
And so it just doesn't make sense.
And for our people, for us, it's killing us disproportionately
and largely because of misinformation.
Now, you know, I got sick.
I got my family sick.
My son still has it.
Yeah, you got COVID.
You got COVID.
I got COVID.
I passed out on stage.
I still, I was suffering from, my son got sick.
He still has to go to a cardiologist
Everybody at my work
There's one of my work co-workers that had had blood pressure issues from then till now
So you you almost kill somebody and it changes your perspective. I had long-haul Cove is so bad
They're gonna tell you as many days. I thought I was gonna punch my ticket
I was like I'm gonna live my life like this
And so all these people who think that your motivation is just that
you're paid as asinine
as you're paid by a pharmaceutical company.
How about you got sick, you're sick
in people you love, and you would rather
that people didn't have the same experience as you did.
Experience isn't the best teacher,
it's just the hardest.
And I showed the video last week
there was a lawyer in the UK.
White guy, he goes, well, I'm And I showed the video last week. There was a lawyer in the U.K., white guy.
He goes, well, I'm glad I got COVID.
I'm glad I got COVID so I can show y'all this is not that big of a deal.
It's just like the flu.
So he records these videos.
And then he recorded one of the videos.
He says, well, last night I was in lots of pain. He said I was curled up in a fetal position for six hours.
And I was sitting there thinking, I was in lots of pain. He said I was curled up in a fetal position for six hours.
And I was sitting there thinking, I've had the flu.
I ain't never been curled up in a fetal position for six hours.
That sounds painful as hell.
Nine days later, his ass was dead. But people often cite the Tuskegee experiment.
And the families, the descendants of those people came on and said, look.
So it's nothing that's going to satisfy some people.
I had one of these ignorant, super weave YouTube historians dogging me because I had Dr. Ebony Hilton on.
We were talking about Tuskegee.
And we're discussing it.
And I said, y'all, I went to the museum in Tuskegee.
They made it clear.
They were not injected.
They actually were not treated.
Like Henrietta Lacks wasn't treated.
And all these folks were sitting here, oh, Ronald Martin, you wrong about it.
We live streamed the event from Howard University of those Tuskegee
descendants and folks in this well I don't know why you saying that the same
time Tuskegee was happening black and brown people all over the country were
being immunized for polio right at the same time that happened right so it's
really a math it's really mad in order to get herd immunity you need 80 to 90
percent of the population since they only comprise 58 percent and we are 13 percent and Latins are 37 percent, you need that collective.
Because there are only two viruses.
Well, there's only one virus that has been eradicated, and that was the polio vaccine.
And it took 184 years to do it.
And that was because they had to immunize the entire world.
There you go.
And they killed it.
So you have to immunize.
Right now, these same people are talking about all these things that they're not going to
do are protected by vaccines.
The same vaccine that Jonas Salk, a variation of that, that he invented in 1954, my granddaughter
took two, who was three months old, who was five months old, took.
So, and the reason we don't have those things, the mumps, the measles,
the polio, running rampant. Matter of fact,
polio is in two places, in Afghanistan
and it's in Pakistan. And once they get
rid of it there, they'll eradicate it. So you're protected
by the very vaccines. If you want to leave
and go back to Africa, you're going to take
a bunch of vaccines. If you want to go to school,
you're going to take a bunch. You will not
go into that country.
Well, I don't know how you think.
You can't go to college.
You can't.
There's so many things you can't do.
And really, it's getting to a point where, so, you know, the company I work for, Friday, issued, made a mandate that you had to be vaccinated.
And I think that once the FDA approves one of these vaccines, companies are going to have cover and they're going to say you've got to take it.
And then we'll see how convicted you are.
Because instead of ramping up your immune system, you better brush up on your resume.
I hope CMOS is hiring.
Because
it's just...
I had a brother, so we stopped by the restaurant.
I was in Houston Friday,
Thursday, Friday, Saturday. My aunt passed away.
We had a funeral.
And we went to dinner.
And six of us, three of them doctors two emergency room
doctors right so the brother comes up waiter no mask and so he's talking i was like whoa whoa whoa
i was like first question are you vaccinated he says no i said yo ass need a mask um i got up
went to the manager i said first of all do y all, do you require your waiters to be vaccinated?
He said, no.
I said, well, you damn certainly require them to at least be wearing masks.
I said, he said.
That was in Houston, right?
Houston.
And he said.
But don't you know that apparently Corona does not exist in Texas or Florida.
So I think apparently it doesn't.
Because Abbott and DeSantis just swear it doesn't.
And I made the manager go get that brother a mask and I pulled him aside.
I said he said, boy, I got some questions. I went one, two, three.
Here are three black doctors who can answer any question you have.
You know, and I'm not ultimately is this for me. My motivation is my motivation is what my motivation has been.
When someone is slain by the police. My motivation is what my motivation has been
when we talk about voting, because I think we pretty much have the same kind of overall
perspective. And my perspective is what it has been now. I'm trying to do, and I'm sure you are,
trying to do the best we can for our people with the situation we have. Ultimately,
there are facts you cannot dispute.
Ninety-seven percent of the people who are in the hospital are unvaccinated.
Ninety-eight.
Okay.
Lollapalooza had a big festival.
Three hundred and eighty-five thousand people showed up.
Two hundred people got sick.
A thousand showed up outside of the Milwaukee Arena where they won the NBA championship.
Five hundred got COVID. See, and so it's in all those in the requirement at Lollapalooza was that those people be vaccinated.
90 percent will be vaccinated and the other show a negative COVID test.
Construct with rolling loud and see a couple.
The only place where there's more virus in Florida is Louisiana and Botswana, literally.
So people can have their—my question is this.
We know that there's no debating that the virus actually exists,
and it is causing a great deal of harm.
What is your action?
What is your response?
Because when you ramp up your immune system, that doesn't immunize you against disease.
You may do better if you get a virus.
Right.
You may have a better outcome.
A brother literally told me, I'm drinking a lot of green tea.
Okay.
I went, okay.
Okay.
So, you know, it's really simple for me.
You almost kill your son and see if it, all these people have these religious epiphanies or these professional epiphanies.
When you see your son has to go to a cardiologist six months, every six months because of something you did, or you see one of your coworkers struggling with long-haul COVID.
Tell me how you feel.
Right.
And if you're inhumane, if that doesn't move you.
And I think that a lot of people are seeing a lot of suffering and pretending like it isn't real.
And we don't have the luxury.
The American life expectancy last year dropped, what, a year?
Hours.
African-Americans dropped three years.
So we've lost three years because of a pandemic you say doesn't exist right our life expectancy is about three years so these are the things that
are real and as far as these people want to come on your show i'm never gonna let you on my show
to lie i ain't gonna do it i don't care what you call me that that's it i don't need you to
hit the thing i'm not gonna give you the other side of somebody who ain't a professional but
i'm not you're not a virologist,
an epidemiologist. You would do the
talk slick on Instagram.
And you literally lied
so much, you can't even tweet from your
own name because you've
spread so much misinformation
that you're a known liar.
Why would I?
Why do I need to?
What is it we need to know?
There are 93 million people who haven't taken the vaccine.
What is so special about your ass that I got to have you on?
They could lie to me.
Right, right.
So I don't, and this notion that they're going to bully you or call you names, I don't give a damn what you call me.
I'm a grown man, and I'm going to say what I believe.
There's a reason I have a platform.
There's a reason you have, and the reason you don't.
Here's the reason those people don't have platforms. Because the minute they start telling lies,
they get took off. Right. Right. No one can
keep them on. Right.
Now, if you, I suggest that they do that
to us. If we, if you
call the people that put us on,
and if we are lying,
have us taken off.
If we're spreading bald faces,
harmful falsehoods, I suggest you
call them. But you know why you won't?
Because we don't.
There is no alternative to the truth but a lie.
I had somebody who literally said, man, why you, I don't like when you always interrupt people.
I said, no.
When folks start lying, then I'm going to correct them at that very point.
I can't let you
lie and then go,
mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
It's like they're not,
there is no opposite.
If you, if we know
that this exists, we know that
4 million people were all right of die.
200 million people were exposed
to the virus. There literally is so much
virus in some of the places in this country that only places in Africa have more.
And the only reason they have more is because they don't have the access to resources.
Boom.
They don't have access to this.
They are standing in line, walking miles for that vaccine.
And so ultimately, I do know this.
I was frightened when I took my whole family at one time.
What kind of man would I be?
If I've admitted the things I've done in terms of indiscretions in my personal life,
if I've been open book about that, why would I lie about my motivations for giving?
And who are you?
I should lie to you.
If I don't lie to my woman, why would I lie to you?
Right.
I want the best for you.
If you don't want the best for you, I get it.
But I think you have an obligation to make a reasonable decision.
I tell you what, when you get sick, find out what address that that people,
the people you sent to Facebook, find out where their hospital is and go there
and stop going to hospitals where we need the resources for people who are in accidents.
Doc, I'm the same way.
I'm the same way.
Man, always good seeing you.
Likewise, man.
I'm sorry I didn't get to play.
It's all good, but, you know, we had enough omegas out there.
It's never enough now. No, that's always enough.
It's never enough.
That's why I kept this black and gold golf ball right here for you.
Oh, I thought it was purple and gold.
No, it ain't purple and gold.
I didn't see it.
I'm sorry.
Joe Torres said the exact same thing. So, clearly, y'all, too, are color you. Oh, I thought it was purple and gold. No, it ain't purple and gold. I didn't see it. I'm sorry. Joe Torres said the exact
same thing. So clearly, y'all too
are colorblind.
Clearly.
One thing we ain't blind
about is our devotion for our people.
And you know, you guys
were first, but that's the prototype
because sometimes you don't get it right the first time
and then later on you get it, you know,
you lock it in. Oh, so that's what they told y'all i'm glad i'm glad y'all was
the vcr see what it's really more like is this here uh the difference between alpha and omega
sort of like you know when you go to the club and they got their rope line and they walk up and
you's like um i'm on the list and they go um i'm sorry i don't see your name and then you got to go
to that other club down the street.
Right.
Or you can start a party in the parking lot.
Right, right, right. But you ain't getting in
that party.
I'm getting in.
You ain't getting in that one.
Mike Brown,
I know you sitting there,
that was for you.
We talking about Haiti
at the top of the show.
He want to make a crack on my alpha gear in the middle of the Haiti conversation.
As I just had the ambassador from the United States from Haiti on.
So I ain't say nothing.
Oh, but I'm going to talk about your bald-headed ass right now.
And I would be remiss if I didn't talk about it.
I think that one of the things that has happened is that because Haiti didn't have, you know, whether it was hurricane or earthquakes, they're not structurally built.
They don't have the infrastructure to sustain that.
So one of the things we need to talk about is how can we help Haiti to avoid, you can't move them geographically, but you can make sure that their infrastructure can withstand. Like, here, we're built to do that thing. And I think one of the reasons the problems Haiti has is that it's so financially disconnected that a lot of things that wouldn't
be bad in other places are bad there. And they're digging people out of the rubble with
their bare hands. And I just want to give my sincere condolences and my prayers. And
I think we need to have a concerted effort as to what we can do to make sure that we
can make sure that they have at least the rudimentary things you need to survive in
society.
Well, we had the Haitian ambassador of the United States on, and I said, look, let us
know specifically who are the proper groups to give to, because there's a lot of folk
out there who are grifters.
We want to make sure that that happens.
You mean the ones selling cures to COVID, those dudes?
Okay, okay.
Or the ones with the fake vaccine cards.
I mean, U.S. Customs busted a boatload of fake vaccine cards from China.
You got to be really a dumbass fool to spend $400 on a fake vaccine card for a free shot.
You got to be a dumbass dude to risk your life on a dude you met on the Internet.
That don't even work on Tinder.
That don't even work on Tinder. That don't even work on Tinder.
D.L., I was good to see you, baby.
I appreciate it. Thanks a bunch.
We got to go to...
First of all, I'm going to go back to the panel here.
In a moment, I'm going to talk to John Boyd.
But that
really is, I think, a key
point right there,
Michael. The people who all of a sudden they listen to,
folk you would never in your life listen to,
you wouldn't even follow them for directions to a Popeyes.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just unfortunate.
It's, you know, we have so, I mean, obviously our country, you know, America is the greatest country in the world, but we are not perfect.
We still have a long way to go on a variety of fronts.
But it just seems some of these things are easy.
And we're making the easy things difficult.
And that's part of the challenge of this COVID stuff is it just seems so, and maybe, you know, some of us who have,
who think alike, it just seems so easy, put a mask on whether you're vaccinated or not when you're
indoors. That just seems so easy. I mean, it doesn't seem like there should be much debate.
You're outside, social distance, and do what you need to do. Okay, fine. But put
on a mask. And every child in America in school should have a mask on until this pandemic is over.
And I bet you a lot of parents are going to keep their kids in masks even after the pandemic
is over. So some of these things seem easy, and we're just making it more difficult.
Look, folks, I'm telling you, it is one thing after another that we actually are dealing with this. Speaking of dealing one thing after another, our Black farmers are having to do the exact same
thing. Now you have white farmers who are suing them, alleging reverse discrimination. Now the
issue is Black farmers are now going to have to be required to prove they own the land.
Joining us right now is John Boyd, National Black Farmers Association.
He's the president.
So, John, explain the latest barrier that they're now throwing in front of black farmers.
Yes, well, just like you said, now we have to prove that, you know, we own the land.
And now, as you stated earlier about the white farmers that are suing us in 12 federal lawsuits
and two have filed—two of the courts have issued injunctions, which means, Roland and your panel,
we can't get the money again.
So here we worked on this thing for 30 years.
And for me, Secretary Vilsack moved entirely too slow to get the monies out to the farmers.
They had the information.
They knew who the farmers were that were eligible.
And he still didn't get the money out.
And then, Roland, and for your panel, there's $1 billion, 10% of that billion dollars is supposed to be addressed for black farmers and farmers of color who have been discriminated against.
That's not tied up in federal court.
Their secretary, Vilsack, still has not released those funds.
And so I met with a conference call with him and the agriculture chairman, David Scott,
who really pressed Vilsack on when that money was going to be released to Black and other
farmers of color, and still didn't give us any time ramifications there.
So here you have a president of the United States who wants to do the right thing.
And in my opinion, and for black farmers and farmers of color,
he brought the wrong man back to USDA to execute his plan of action.
Secretary Vilsack is the wrong man and the wrong time in history, you know, to help black farmers.
So what's next?
I mean, look, I mean, again, Congress approves the funding.
Now these folks are suing you.
And so it just seemed like it's just one thing after another.
And so, you know, what's next?
How can the public help?
What do you want folks to do?
Well, they can support the National Black Farmers Association.
And Roland, we are responding and all 12 of those courts and amicus briefs and all of those things.
And hopefully those things will make a difference.
And the other challenge we have is the Department of Justice doesn't want to admit to discrimination after the year 2011.
Discrimination for black farmers still exists today.
And the Department of Justice has enforced this case vigorously enough by laying out the historic pattern that black farmers have faced in this country, from the history of slavery, the history of sharecropping and
Jim Crow and all the discrimination and court decisions, that they have all this documentation,
and it hasn't been spelled out, in my opinion, for these judges to actually get a good, clear
picture of what happened.
So one of the judges even said that since there was no
discrimination, he didn't see what the issue was. So the Department of Justice is going to have to
change the way it's addressing these cases in federal court, and they're going to have to fight
more vigorously. And we asked them for the president to lean on DOJ to do the right thing.
And we also are going to continue to fight this thing in federal court. But we need
the support of the black community and to spread what's happening through, you know, the eyes and
ears of people like yourself, Roland, who continue to stay on this issue. It's very, very important
that the everyday black person know about the plight of the black farmers and the uphill struggle
that we have in this country.
Here it is, $5 billion.
We can't get our hands on it.
And black and other farmers of color were depending on this debt relief to help us in our farming operation.
All right, John Boyd, National Black Farmers Association.
We certainly appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you, Roland. Thank you for having me. All right, John Boyd, National Black Farmers Association. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Roland.
Thank you for having me.
All right, folks.
Got to go to a break.
We'll be back.
More with Roland Martin, Unfiltered, here at Spanish Hills Golf and Country Club, Camarillo, California,
site of the eighth annual CFE Entertainer Celebrity Golf Classic. classic.
I believe that people our age have lost the ability to focus
the discipline on the art of
organizing.
The challenges, there's
so many of them and
they're complex and we
need to be moving to
address them.
But I'm able to say, watch out,
Tiffany. I know this road. That is so freaking dope. I'M MOVING TO ADDRESS THEM. BUT I'M ABLE TO SAY, WATCH OUT, TIFFANY.
I KNOW THIS ROLE.
THAT IS SO FREAKING DOPE.
.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HURTING
BLACK FOLKS.
YOU GOT TO DEAL WITH IT.
IT'S INJUSTICE.
IT'S WRONG. I DO FEEL LIKE IN THIS Right. You've got to deal with it. It's injustice. It's wrong.
I do feel like in this generation,
we've got to do more around being intentional and resolving conflict.
You and I have always agreed.
Yeah.
But we agree on the big piece.
Yeah.
Our conflict is not about destruction.
Conflict's going to happen.
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Hey, what's up, y'all?
It's your boy Jacob Lattimore,
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Stay woke.
Man, I don't give a damn about no punk ass cues.
Don't care about
no cues. Don't care.
Man, I don't care.
First of all, I told y'all
y'all see the time when Justin's here?
Y'all ain't seen that one, you two?
I told y'all y'all got more prison chapters than us, so don't be acting a fool.
Don't even be starting.
Joining us right now, I used to like him.
I used to like him.
Go to the library, dog.
You know, I used to like that. That's used to like that that's what I always told
y'all come on now don't now you know you know now yeah you know cuz you know we
cuz cuz we had we had a chant we party all night we stay up late but most of
all alphas graduate David justice y'all. Long time. My man, my man, my man. Good to see you, Roland.
What's up, Doc? Always good to see you, brother. Absolutely. I'm telling you, it's a pleasure,
bro. Good time out there? We won. Y'all did? Yeah. What was the score? I mean, I was over
here working. I don't remember what our score was, but we were. See, right there, if you
can't remember your score, how the hell you won? The discrepancy in what I'm unsure about.
Oh, that was a discrepancy.
Was the one hole that we got the hole in one.
I wasn't on the card, so I don't know how many down I should put.
Y'all got a hole in one.
Now, was that the one you purchased the hole in one?
Yes.
The part five.
Yes, because we figured we have to purchase this part five.
Right.
We did, too.
Because everybody is going to be purchasing it. Yeah, we did, too. to purchase this par five. Right. We did, too.
Everybody's going to be purchasing it. Yeah, we did, too.
And it could be a difference maker.
It cost $500.
And it could be a difference maker on whether or not you're at the podium.
Right.
So we purchased it, and needless to say, we were rolling.
We got first place.
Yeah.
But you don't remember the score y'all shot?
Why is that?
Go check, Roland.
So how in the hell you won first place, but you can't say the score?
Because I wasn't on the card, Roland.
My other guy was keeping the card.
How weren't you on the card? Because I don't like doing the card.
I told y'all he don't make it.
I got to focus.
I got to focus. I got to focus
on my game.
I got to focus on my game.
I got time for the card.
I ain't going to make us leave the room.
Hey, hey, hey.
And the moment they're looking for the loudest guy in the room, the Alphas show up.
Look, every time we played an Alpha team in sports, it was always a domination by the Qs.
Why is that?
Why do Alphas not have no athletes?
I'm sorry.
Well, first of all, that's a lie.
Why is that a problem?
My history.
My history.
Now, hold on.
Now, we know that's a lie.
We play charity basketball here because Alphas.
We know that's a lie.
And Alphas is begging us to stop.
Now, we know that's a lie.
The Qs.
Now, we know that's a lie.
I don't know.
Why y'all so afraid of the Qs when we all care?
Now, first of all, first of all, ain't nobody afraid.
Ain't nobody afraid of the Qs.
Every time I see an alpha, he running to go get a pencil and a pen.
Ain't nobody afraid of the Qs.
Y'all so afraid of us, man.
It's something about that purple and gold.
Because when y'all walk in, you got your probation officers with you.
So when you walk in, you got law enforcement with you.
So as alphas, we are afraid of getting caught up in y'all and law enforcement.
Okay, so what you're basically saying is y'all kind of soft.
No, no, no. What we're saying is y'all have criminal records. And what we're saying is,
what we're saying is...
Hey, Roland, Roland, Roland, Roland, Roland, you sound very Trumpish right now. You're
talking a lot of, you're talking a lot of junk, but I can't fact check that because I'm an educated Q.
That's rare as hell right there.
No, no, no, no.
See, you're talking like a guy who only knew the Qs.
He used to take your lunch money.
So you're only thinking about them Qs.
There's other well-respected Qs out here.
We won't take your lunch money.
It's about six of y'all.
We won't take your lunch money. It's about six of y'all. We won't take your lunch money.
It's about six of y'all.
We'll let you play golf with us.
We'll let you into the club for a discounted price.
It's literally about six of y'all.
We got six million of us that's legit.
No, you don't.
And hold on, stop.
Hold on, right there.
Every dude that wanted to be a Q but was scared became an alpha.
Did nobody want to be a Q?
I'm just saying.
Why does one want a secondary organization?
Fact check it.
Fact check it.
Fact check what?
Yeah.
Every alpha.
You right now are sounding like Black Magnet.
So here's what happens.
Here's what happens.
Right now you sound like Black Magnet.
Young dude come to college.
He said, I want to be a Q, but they just look too legit.
They look too real.
They too raw, the Qs.
First of all, the reason that's likely not going to happen,
because y'all likely not on the yard because y'all got suspended.
Roland, why are you interrupting me?
Because you sound like Black Maga.
Black Maga. you hear me because you sound like black maga so what happens is is is the young fellas they come on to the yard and
they want to be cues but just something about them cues they feel like i just can't do it
they just too legit so oh it's easy to be an alpha i'll just go over here all i gotta do is
keep a c grade c average you know walk around with button-down T-shirts and some Dock Siders on, and I can be an alpha.
Hello, guys.
I'm an alpha.
Where are the Qs at?
They the one over there.
So here's what happens.
So now that y'all heard fiction, now let me give you nonfiction.
What actually happens is when the young brother arrives to campus, he says, where are the
fraternities?
They say, there go the alphas.
They typically will say, there go the kappas.
Then they'll say, there used to be an Omega chapter, but they've been on suspension for
the last several years.
So they will not be returning to campus for another four or five years.
I mean, that's typically.
Hey, Roland, I can understand because I can hear it in your voice how much you wanted to be a Q.
Never.
I can hear it in your voice.
When I say there was no consideration, that was like zero consideration.
That's because we wouldn't have you.
I probably would have picked Iota or the Sigmas before Omega.
You know what it is?
That's kind of.
You know, y'all can never win a GPA contest.
Now, you know.
You know what it is.
Roland has been traumatized by the Qs.
I ain't been traumatized.
I'm just simply saying.
He needs therapy.
I'm just simply saying.
A little time and therapy, Roland, will get you right, dog.
It's like I told Ricky Smiley.
You know something up with the Omegas when they got Shaq giving public lectures at their convention.
Giving workshops on public speaking.
How you going to talk about Shaq like that?
Let me call Shaq.
Call Shaq.
Call Shaq.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Shaq.
I ain't going to let you sit in and talk about my friend Shaq.
What? I'm just saying. You know, again, like. I ain't going to let you sit in and talk about my friend Shaq. What?
I'm just saying.
You know, again, like I said, Rowling.
Look, all I know is Ricky Smiley and I were going at it.
We were going at it.
And Ricky Smiley was talking about y'all were having y'all conclave in Raleigh a few years ago.
And I said, wow.
And light went out.
I said, Anthony, light went out.
I said, I don't miss nothing.
See, a cube wouldn't have caught that. See, y'all were just sitting in the dark. No, no, our stuff wouldn't go out. Yeah, Anthony, light went out. I said, I don't miss nothing. See, a Q wouldn't have caught that.
See, y'all would just sit in the dark.
No, no, our stuff wouldn't go out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right.
First of all, y'all wouldn't even have extra batteries.
Tell them, dog.
Y'all wouldn't even have.
We not going out.
I like stay on.
Sound more like a poodle.
I like stay on.
Sound more like a poodle.
That's it. So now y'all have a sense of how things go out here on the golf course.
You know, you see them with this big-ass – like what?
Exxon didn't have no shirts available?
You've got that big-ass goat?
Listen, I'm trying to get with that oil money.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm trying to have somebody take a look at me and, you know, go.
Which means you...
Go might want to sponsor me. Oh, so what you're saying is you might
want to talk to somebody who's... Hey, first of all, first of all,
let me say this. Wait, hold up. Let me say this,
Rollie. David, you just said all money.
I'm from Houston. Let me say this. I can hook
you up. Let me say this.
To all the alphas out there,
you know we're all part of the Panhellenic, right?
Conference. Well, it's actually Alpha and Divine 8.
Well, so, you know, I love the alphas.
Some of my best friends are alphas.
You know what I mean?
Some of my best friends are alphas.
I ain't got no friends.
So I just want to make sure that y'all understand.
You know, the Q's, when you're on top, you know, you reach out to the little fellas.
On top of what?
You know, when you're on top, you reach out.
See, when you're at the bottom scratching to be a Q, you sound like Roland.
So all you alphas out there don't sound like Roland.
Don't have all that hate in your heart for the Qs.
You know what I mean?
Everybody can't be us.
It's like the Marines in the military, right?
Everybody can't be the Marines.
They just do.
The few, the proud, they can't.
They too strong.
That's how it is with the Qs.
They don't want to come in. They can't. They're too strong. That's how it is with the Qs.
They don't want to come in.
They can't be a Q.
So what do they do?
They look around and they say,
well, I'll just go to the Army.
I'll just go to Alphas.
Alpha's easy.
They're just letting you in.
All you got to do is carry a pencil in a book bag.
So allow me to say this. Carry a pencil in a book bag and you can be an Alpha.
So allow me to say this.
You have just witnessed the first confirmed case
of CTE in a baseball player.
You have just witnessed the first confirmed case of CTE in a baseball play. You have just witnessed
the first confirmed case
in a baseball play.
Roland, Roland, Roland, listen.
I don't appreciate you talking about my CTE,
man. I ain't told the public yet.
That's some bull crap, Roland.
Now, you and Omega, you probably feel the CET.
Hey, Roland, be quiet before I hit you with my pencil.
See, you better do a tag team and bring Joe on over here.
Joe already ready to choke you out.
Okay, well, go tell God to hurry and get over here then.
Oh, man, I swear to God.
Well, look, so you have a good time out here? It was a great time, man, I swear to God. Well, look, is y'all – so you have a good time out here?
It was a great time, man.
It's always great to be able to come and see you, see all the fellas, man,
because, you know, we don't really get a chance to see each other
because everybody's got lives, families, their work, they're doing their thing.
So to come out here and roll in and see everybody, it's always a pleasure, man.
Like I told you earlier when we were talking, bro, it's always good to see you.
You're doing your thing, bro, you know what I mean? And it's great to see pleasure, man. Like I told you earlier when we were talking, bro, it's always good to see you. You're doing your thing, bro.
You know what I mean?
And it's great to see you, man.
I'll tell you, I'm always locked in on what you're talking about because you're knowledgeable.
You put it in a way in which it's easy to digest.
And you're for real about it.
You're speaking it how it go, you know.
And I'm sure you got people that don't like that.
They'll get over it.
Right.
You already know that.
That ain't like that. They'll get over it. Right. You already know that. That ain't my problem. But the people that sound mind, you know, all the cues,
we understand what you're trying to say.
We'll give you an alpha pass.
That's why we have video.
We understand what you're trying to say.
But, yeah, man, it was great out here, Brian.
Like I said, our team won.
You know, I played with some really good players.
I'm going to have to verify that.
You said take the facts.
I'm going to have to verify what you're saying to see who actually won.
Well, you can, you know, for once in your life, will you fact?
Now, I was told I won close to the pin.
So I need to make sure I got it.
What?
I need to make sure I get my prize.
Close to what pin?
Hold on.
I hit mine 6B5.
Close to what pin?
Now, we know there were several close to the pin.
We know you won 1-3-3.
Stop tripping.
You saw that, didn't you?
Huh? You saw that. No, she won totally. I didn't win, though. Somebody got me at 1. Oh know you won 1-3-3. Stop tripping. You saw that, didn't you? Huh?
You saw that.
No, she wasn't told.
I didn't win, though.
Somebody got me at 1.
Oh, you didn't win that one?
No.
Oh, well, sometimes I got 1.
But I thought I did.
I won.
Sorry.
You should have hit that on the whole idea, though.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
You can leave with your caramel on white pants.
We can please bring it.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Listen, listen.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, get my shoe.
Get my shoes in there, too, now, because my shoes. hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, get my shoe, get my, get my, get my, get my, get my shoes in there too now, because my
shoes, see what I'm saying?
See, the Q's know how to put outfits together.
But guess what?
There's a reason why on Roller Martin and the Filter we keep lotion.
Don't even try, don't even try.
My legs ain't my legs, my dog ain't my legs.
I see that ass right there.
I see that ass.
That's why we keep lotion.
That's why we keep lotion on Roller Martin and the Filter.
I ain't lotion your damn ankles and shit.
I ain't lotion.
No.
You know, these ankles clean right here.
I see the white.
I see the white.
They ain't the pants.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Push that in.
That's that Nivea.
Push that in.
I ain't mad at you.
I take the lotion.
Hey.
I take the lotion.
Hey, this a black show.
We keep lotion on the set. I take the lotion. We. I take the lotion. Hey, this a black show. We keep lotion on the set.
I take the lotion.
We keep lotion on the set.
You gave me too much, though.
Now, Nivea, y'all ain't sponsored yet, but God damn it, y'all better be cutting the check.
That's why I'm going to show this side.
Well, I tell you what.
You better take some of that sheen off your face.
You look like you're very greasy up here now.
You know what I mean?
Q ain't greasy.
That's another sponsor.
Look at me, y'all.
See, I ain't greasy.
Who ain't greasy? But look at Alpha. He greasy over here. First of all, I've, Q's ain't greasy. That's another sponsor. Look at me, y'all. See, I ain't greasy. You ain't greasy.
But look at Alphobee.
He greasy over here.
First of all, I've been over here working.
Are you sitting your ass in the air conditioning sitting in there?
Stop, you ain't been working.
You ain't been working.
Go on with that old ass golf shirt on.
Hell, you can't find a golf gas station anymore.
How my ankles look?
Come on in, huh?
How my ankles look?
First of all, the company now called Chevron.
Now, go on over there and bring it.
I'm just trying to help you out.
I'm from Houston, the picket capital cap of the world.
You're trying to get a contract, right?
To all the Qs out there, this is how you handle these alphas that want to be us.
And to all the Qs out there, that's the signal of fly away.
Keep it professional.
Because you told me I got to leave.
Yeah.
You took it all the damn time.
I am.
Joe, without waiting, he getting drunk by the minute. I mean, he ain't gonna be worth
nothing in five minutes. I'll let you come over here and handle this. So, you know, I gotta sit here and get it right now
before that extra tequila shot kick in. Okay, Roland, listen, I charge for all this,
so send me a check or something in the mail. Yeah, I'm gonna have golf on senior check.
I appreciate it.
All right, fellas.
All right, y'all.
That's David Justice right there.
Y'all know that's David Justice, known as the man Halle Berry said go to hell.
What?
Update it.
Update it.
Look, I'm just, you know, I'm just, I can't name all Joe's exes.
Sit down, Joe.
All right, y'all.
Joe, hey, Joe, hey, hey, hey, everything, you know everything is on the table.
Oh, shit.
If he knew my ex-wife's name, he would throw out there.
He could be Googling this shit right now.
You know it.
What up, man? I know a lot of your ex-wives. name, he would throw out there. He's going to be Googling this shit right now. You know it. What up, man?
I know a lot of your ex-wives.
They just say, you ain't marry them.
That's what they told me.
I told you he was drunk.
Mike Phillips, come on up here because he already drunk.
No, I'm not drunk.
Come on, man.
Joe's group was behind us, and every time they hit a long ball, Joe would get out of the car.
Hey, hey, y'all see that?
He wasn't the one who hit it.
Let me explain something to y'all.
Golf.
When the person who get out the car start talking first,
they the ones who did not hit the long drive.
I hit one of them long drives.
I hit one of them long drives.
Dave, I got him, Dave.
I got him.
I got him, Q.
I hit one of them.
You hit one of them?
I hit one of them.
One out of 18?
Then I can talk out of, I can talk on y'all.
So that's why I got out talking.
Have fun out there.
I had a great time, man.
Until you guys kept slowing up the course.
Man, please.
First of all, y'all understand, I don't drink alcohol.
So the one thing about this tournament, there's an abundance of alcohol on the course.
There was, for real?
I didn't find none.
I found some nice alkaline water and, you know, a couple of, you know,
some of it had gray goose in it, but it was a couple of it.
I'm sorry.
They had cigars, massages out there.
Oh, man, yes.
They had some weed out there.
Did they?
Yeah, they did.
I forgot about that hole. You went past they did. I forgot about that hole.
You went past that hole?
I forgot about that hole.
You forgot about that hole.
And the rest of the four of them after that.
You probably stopped by there while you forgot the evening existed.
Did you hear what I said?
I forgot about that hole.
And a couple of holes after that.
Is Michael Brown still there?
Mike Brown is our panelist.
He's one of your
little compatriots.
A couple little compatriots.
What is up with you?
What's up with the little?
Why you got to put the little in front?
No, no.
I didn't actually say little.
I said lil.
Lil.
See, that's L-U-L
and that's L-I-L.
Yeah, L-I-L is even more disrespectful
than little.
Lil.
Yeah, I forgot. Yeah, you got it.L is even more disrespectful than Lil. Lil. Yeah, I forgot.
Yeah, you got it.
Lil.
Like, we want to be totally disrespectful, you see.
I told my wife when she asked me to do something at the church before we married, I said, how
your Lil project go?
Because when I met her, I didn't like her.
Right.
I was like, did you call my project Lil?
I actually called it Lil.
Yeah.
Mike Brown, you got a question?
Mike, you got a question for Joe Torre?
I mean, you know, I don't really care.
Champion today.
I think I took second or third today.
No, I don't care.
So, Mike, you got anything to say to Joe Torre?
Frat brothers all over.
Michael, you're on mute.
Take your damn computer off mute.
I'm not on mute.
You're on mute.
Come on. I'm not on mute. Come on.
I'm not on mute.
Mike, come on.
You can't hear me.
Mike, I can hear you.
I can hear you, Mike.
I can hear you.
How about now?
Better?
Hey, Joe.
I can hear you now, Mike.
Hey, Joe.
How about now, Joe?
I'm going to translate. Michael said hi. Hello, Michael. I can hear you now, Mike. Hey, Joe. How about now, Joe? I'm a translator.
Michael said hi.
Hello, Michael.
How you doing?
Good to see you.
It's good to see my frat brothers all over that golf tournament doing well.
First of all, there are a lot of alphas here as well,
but only the omegas are still stuck at the bar.
But go ahead.
It's a free bar.
Hey, Joe.
Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe.
Joe, did you see any of Roland's shots?
Michael wants to know, did you see any of my spectacular shots?
Yeah, I saw a lot of his spectacular shots.
They were left, right, and one amazing shot.
Did it go into the water or go into the bushes?
No, first of all, you know it out of your mind.
Now, when you say left, right shots, I hear left to right draw.
So you're absolutely right.
I hear left to right draw.
I mean, I do too.
That's my specialty.
But I'm talking about Army, left, right, left, right.
No, no, we don't do those.
For real?
We don't do those.
You went in the bushes?
No. You didn't go in the bushes? I had to go pick somebody else's damn ball up. Oh, that's what you was doing. Yeah. no, we don't do those. For real? We don't do those. You went in the bushes? No.
You didn't go in the bushes? I had to go pick somebody else's damn ball up.
Oh, that's what you was doing?
Yeah.
Oh, I don't go in the bushes.
First of all, I can afford balls.
Well, yeah, so that's why.
If I go to the bushes, I ain't going to look for them.
Okay, all right.
So it wasn't yours.
You was going to get somebody else's ball.
No, I ain't going to look for them.
All right, that story you sticking with?
What?
Everybody know that.
Okay, all right.
But what I hear you said, you said that was a drive you saw that even you said, damn.
No, I didn't say damn.
I said, okay.
No, you didn't say the Kevin Hart damn.
You went, damn.
I didn't get deep with it.
You know, bass was in it.
No, no, that was the bass.
That was bass.
It wasn't all treble.
I said, all right.
I said.
See, right there.
That's a hater right there.
No.
All right.
All right. Shit. Damn, I'm going to give his ass credit. No, right there. That's a hater right there. No. All right. All right.
Shit.
Damn, I'm going to give his ass a credit.
No, he got that one.
It was that one.
He got that one.
Oh, he tagged that one?
Then when you see, if I saw another one, then I'm like, damn, okay.
Now, I've seen you, and I talk about the putt you made, you know,
in the OJ tournament.
The putt for the.
Oh, the OJs, right.
Exactly. Oh, first of all, he said the OJ tournament. The OJ tournament. The putt for the... Oh, the OJs, right. Oh, first of all, he said the OJ tournament.
I'm like, I ain't never been with OJ Simpson.
The OJs tournament.
Yes.
Up in Canton.
Right.
So, y'all, we were playing the Fireside Country Club.
So, I had to do my Tom Jonas segment.
I'm literally doing it on the phone.
I walk out, no practice.
No practice putts.
No way.
Yeah.
It was like a 60 or 70
foot putt.
I'm talking about you had to hit it like
here, up, down,
curve, and jam.
I walked up. One ball. I was like,
watch this. Talking shit.
Drained it.
After about 20, 30 people have we tried.
All of them miss it. It is still
like how the hell you hit that down. I'm still like how the hell you hit that damn point.
For real.
I'm still like
how the hell
you hit that bullshit.
I was like,
it's smooth.
Anyway.
But for real.
And that's what I can say.
So that was a damn moment.
Like damn.
Because I got close.
But I was like damn.
You had the nicest watch
I've worn too.
It was a real nice watch.
You walked up smooth.
Like out of the crowd
like it was written for you.
I was like,
who wrote this script?
For his ass.
Had the swag in that walk.
All that.
You had everything going on.
Talking about Ohio,
Ohio State.
You was a ping,
ping,
ping,
ping,
pow.
I was like,
let me go out.
Let me get out this moment.
This is his moment. Sometimes, this is his moment. No, no out this moment. This is his moment.
Sometimes he's saying no.
No, no, remember I had one more moment.
What was that?
No, remember at the awards deal?
Remember when Eddie asked me to get awards out?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I said, y'all ask me again for free?
Yeah.
I said, y'all going to be singing for my parents' wedding anniversary.
Yeah.
Now, you know that actually happened four years ago.
For real?
Eddie got that call.
I said, remember all them
free ass speeches
like you were doing?
Yeah, you took over
that whole...
So, yeah,
I took over the awards deal
and I was killing him.
He was killing him.
So, somebody goes,
Joe, Joe,
why don't you go up there?
Joe said,
shit, that mic too damn hot.
I said, he hot.
Nothing like what else
is in the city.
Because I was killing
everybody.
He was killing.
He was killing.
It was like,
hey, what? So, that's what people need killing him. It was like, hey, what?
So that's what people need to understand.
Yeah.
When we play, it's music, it's alcohol I don't drink, it's food,
and it's a whole lot of trash talk.
It's fun.
It's fellowship, man.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a whole lot of just, you know, golf is spiritual to me.
So it's like, you know, you're either meeting somebody,
you're getting something over something new.
Even when you play by yourself, you got to kind of, you know, it's 18 holes for you to get it right.
And it's only you that's getting it right.
Only you fighting you.
And sometimes you can be around a group, these tournaments, you meet certain people that bring another part of you out that helps you gain, man.
And, you know, it's so universal.
I say that, man. It's like, you know, it's one of the best things, you know, that I ever, you know, started doing
because it brings me closer to individuals that I never probably would have the chance to speak with
on a personal level, on a business level, and just on a spiritual level.
That's right.
Y'all, David Jesse just came back.
His Uber canceled.
I don't know who the hell it was.
So he's looking for a ride.
Oh, I stole your glasses.
Oh, see?
I'm sorry.
They over here.
Right here?
These your blind-ass glasses?
Man.
See, you so blind, you can't even see them.
You see your shades?
They was sitting right in here.
I got you, team.
I didn't even know they was sitting.
Here they go.
Oh, they are.
Those.
You know what I'm saying?
You're welcome.
Thank you, Roland.
Oh, man.
Joe Torre, baby.
Always good, baby. Come on, man.
Always good.
Good to see you, baby.
I got to bring in Mike Phillips.
Yes, sir.
Mike got to tell his great story, y'all.
So, y'all, Mike was Harriet Tubman.
Mike was Harriet.
No, Mike pulled an Underground Railroad expeditious type thing.
Avis DeWeaver and Omicongo and Mike, I don't know if y'all are aware of this story. So Mike is going to share with us how he went Harriet Tubman at a NASCAR race playing the national anthem.
Mike, come on out here.
Y'all got to hear this story.
Avis and Omicongo, Mike, like what the hell?
I'm intrigued.
I'm definitely intrigued.
All right.
See, this is why.
So y'all might remember Mike Phillips.
Mike, saxophone is extraordinary.
So Mike, it went viral.
Mike played the Star Spangled Banner in the NASCAR race and weaved in,
lift every voice and sing.
Well, what really happened?
So the VP of Fox hit me up and was like, you know,
this was happening when, you know, they were fighting the Confederate flag,
everything that was going down with Bubba Watson.
So he says, yeah, this is a great time for you to play the anthem.
Can you come?
So I'm negotiating it, and I'm like, you know what?
I don't want to do it because this is like, you know,
they picked the black guy to play, and it seems like the right time to do it.
So I convinced myself.
I said, you know, I'm going to do it, but this is what we're going to do.
So I made the intro to the national anthem, the black national anthem,
lift every voice and sing.
So, Roland, the craziest thing, man, check this out.
I do the intro, and I got the piano player going, boom, you know, like it made
it feel, I said, I need it to feel like it's a Baptist slash Kojic church and God in Christ
intro. So boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, make it adamant and make it unapologetic.
So we do that. And then I weave in the national anthem. And then right after the
anthem, like we weave back in, lift every voice and sing and end it with the let us march on
till victory is won. So I send it to NASCAR and I said, hey, man, you like it? You know,
because we're doing the viral, we're it virtually the guy says this is great and this
this intro at the beginning it's so soulful and it's like gospel and i said to myself yo they
don't know that this is lift every voice and sing so i i applaud nascar but for you not to have
anybody at the top of the food chain to not know that, that's lift every voice and sing?
The Negro National Anthem?
I said, okay, cool.
So I'm like, I'm pausing.
I'm like, so I'm busy looking at TV.
I turned to NBC or wherever station it was on, and I was like, man,
I had my own popcorn.
I was like, we're going to see this.
And I heard the boom, boom, boom, boom,
and looking at everybody in the audience putting their hand over their heart
while the intro of, I'm talking about all the racers, people at home,
probably like 150,000 people just like holding their hand over their heart
while the Negro National Anthem was played.
Do you know how much joy that went through my heart to see all of the racers
with the hats and America and they was listening to some black national anthems? So now we go to
Twitter and you know black Twitter on it. Right, right. One lady says, you know, this is, I don't know what was that,
but it wasn't our American national anthem.
And, you know, Black Twitter cable was like, amen, because it was ours.
She was like, that's why people like that shouldn't play.
USA, USA.
And I said, did I just pull a coup?
And you know what? At the end of the day,
the disparity between the people who are playing sports and the owners, it's so lopsided that if we're playing a sport for you, we would like to hear a song that correlates to our struggles that are constant in America.
So standing for that song is important.
So if you don't want to play it, guess what?
I'm going to sneak it in, and we're going to play it, and y'all are going to stand,
and you're going to pay homage to a song that explains everything about our struggle.
So, man, listen.
It was a cool.
When old boy says, this was a great jazzy intro, I was like, man, listen. It was a cool, when old boy says,
this was a great jazzy intro.
I was like, oh, shoot.
You don't know that. It's the song. So I'm just going to be quiet.
I'm going to let this joy play out.
I turned on that TV. I have my popcorn.
I was like, I'm going to see how this is going to turn out.
Yo!
See, you can only get this
on a black show. See, you can only
get this kind of stuff on a black show. And then now, you can only get this on a black show. See, you can only get this kind of stuff on a black show.
And then now, you know, like, seriously, I play at all of these games.
And I'm going to fill you in with this, Roland.
And a lot of people don't know.
When I play, whether it's a Super Bowl, NFC Championship, and you hear me play the national anthem,
the most part where people clap is when I hold a long note on Land of the Free.
So why did I choose to hold the note on Land of the Free?
Because I'm holding the note waiting for that to come into fruition.
So we ain't free yet, but I'm going to hold that note as long as possible as a silent protest
weaved inside of the national anthem to wait for this freedom to come so people think it's a
ploy to get people up oh my god he's holding a note and people are clapping but no i'm playing
it as long as i can because that's how long we've been waiting
so
you know when I play it
I have to really
take in consideration the fact that
music has the
ability to bring people together
so when you look at a person with a
Seattle jersey, a person with a Falcon jersey
and they're holding hands
there is a temporary moment of everybody together,
but guess what?
After it's finished, everybody digs into their ideology
and micro-reality.
Now we're back to the Hatfields and McCoys.
But to be at a point where everybody can be unified musically,
it's a beautiful space.
That space can be more beautiful if Land of the Free
could be something that came to fruition.
So until then, every time I play the anthem and when you hear me hold that
note, it's making everybody know that musically we're waiting for it,
you're waiting for it, and I'm waiting for it.
My man, Mike Phillips.
There's no doubt, man.
I appreciate it, my brother.
And I see you out here hitting closest to the pins, golf game, putting hands.
He'd be putting these bear claws on these people on this golf course.
So, you know, as black people, we just approach the game differently.
So we love the PGA and the button-up style of golf,
but the way when we get down, the banter is different.
The energy is different.
We will take this energy of golf and make it our own.
The fraternity is repping.
We got DJs on the course.
So, yes, the culture and the game has changed because we have arrived,
but we're not going to play it solely by your rules.
So, Roland, you've been an advocate for the game, how you do it,
and then you don't change on the course because some of these dudes and some of y'all be tripping
because as soon as you get on the course, your whole vocabulary changes.
Hey, Bill, I've been aggregating elsewhere, virtually making it impossible for me to entertain your needs to be loquacious.
But if you leave a grand dealer and other it's at the tone, I will appropriate a response as expeditiously as possible.
And then, yo, you done lost the hood that you came up with just because you're trying to conform to a spirit of the game that don't even want you to be who you are.
So when we, yo, I see this dog, I see this dog, and he is black as ever on the course.
And that is what we need in the game.
So, Roland, shout out to you of keeping that 100 on the course every time I see you, man.
That's right.
I'm going to have my Frankie Beverly Mays on all the time.
You know it.
And, you know, with black people, we got to coordinate.
I mean, let's do it from the rooted to the tooted.
This is what we do.
We're going to be coordinating.
You know what we're going to do.
All day.
Yeah, I see you.
I see you.
Mike Phillips.
It's love, man.
I appreciate it, baby.
I always good seeing you.
No doubt.
Amos, I knew you would get a kick out of that inside scoop there.
Well, I can't imagine.
Amos, go ahead.
No, I'm just saying, I can imagine the Bubbas at home were probably having a heart attack
and trying to figure out what was going on with the National Handsome.
Yeah, Oma Kongo, they were like, well, what did he just do? See, I told you,
pull a Harriet Tubman on him. That's pretty impressive. And I can see folks going ridiculously nuts on Twitter about that as well. And it's kind of like a double edged sword because it's like,
you mad that folks don't know the history, but it's like, if they did, he wouldn't have been able to sneak that
in. So now it's out there forever. I'm going to go find that joint, because
that's pretty hot. Well, no, you don't have to find it,
because we got it. Watch this. ¶¶ ¶¶ © transcript Emily Beynon ¶¶
¶¶ That's powerful.
Wow.
Well, Mike Brown, that's why this is the blackest show on television.
That's what it's all about right there, Ro.
Mike Phillips brought it home.
Indeed.
Folks, Mike
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We had a fantastic day.
Say it just so my team took second.
We shot 17 under.
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