#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Michael Irvin Marriott Video Release, FL Block All DEI Programs, Entertainment Industry & Black Hair
Episode Date: March 15, 20233.14.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Michael Irvin Marriott Video Release, FL Block All DEI Programs, Entertainment Industry & Black Hair Former Dallas Cowboys Star Michael Irvin just refiled a 100 ...million dollar lawsuit against Marriott International over allegations of sexual misconduct by the Pro Football Hall of Famer. We will show you the press conference Irvin and his attorneys held today and the video evidence they just released. Florida Republicans are in a war with Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, this time seeking to remove any DEI programs from Florida's colleges and universities with the Higher Education Censorship and Government Control Bill. We will speak with Florida State Representative about how this Bill could dictate what courses of study college students can pursue and usurps faculty hiring decisions to Ron Desantis appointees. Black hair in the entertainment industry continues to be an afterthought leaving black models and actresses to do their own hair on set. We will speak with Johnny Wright, Celebrity hairstylist & Author of "Natural & Curly Hair for Dummies," about what needs to happen to increase education and black stylists in Hollywood. In our Marketplace segment, we will speak with Au'loni Media Group, the creators of The Melanoid Chronicles, the first-ever millennium African Diaspora encyclopedia series, about how African history is happening daily and should be celebrated. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hall of Famer Michael Irvin has refiled a $100 million lawsuit against Marriott Hotels
for what he says was a lynching of a black man at the Super Bowl.
Today, his attorneys released a video from Marriott that they claim shows Michael Irvin did nothing wrong
after a female Marriott employee accused him of saying something obscene to her.
We will break this thing down and show you some of that video as well.
For Republicans, continue their assault against diversity, equity, inclusion
by passing a bill out of a committee that could very well prevent
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Martel. We'll be right back. Folks, Hall of Famer wide receiver Michael Irvin and his lawyers held a news conference today
where they unveiled video shot at a Marriott hotel in Phoenix, Arizona during the week of the Super Bowl,
which has led Marriott to kick Michael Irvin not only out of the hotel,
but ban him from all Marriotts across the country.
So supposedly on February 5th, Irvin was accused of making an alleged unwanted sexual advance
to a hotel employee at the Renaissance Phoenix Hotel. But the Irvin defense team
unveiled a video that was finally released that they claim shows
he did nothing untoward towards this woman.
Watch this.
Okay, as we start here, y'all can see up to the top right,
Michael is outside with the gentlemen that were here last time via Zoom.
I've called them the TMZ witnesses because they were the first to interview them, but
it's three gentlemen.
If you notice his body movements and what's going on, he's obviously going to be very
friendly.
There's some other people, actually, that I don't know their identity.
Take a picture.
That guy right there on the left, stop it. back 10 seconds can you do that when i talked about the people that were in the back talking i believe a
complaining witness i believe it's this gentleman here who's some kind of a manager and then you'll
see the witness who's been back come out this side, okay? She's going to walk way around here to this pole instead of back to where her job would be back that way.
Okay, go ahead and roll.
There he goes.
She'll come this way pretty soon across the bottom.
Also, when she walks in, you'll see she kind of looks around the pole to see if Michael is still coming.
You can see her just barely duck her head.
Here she comes.
Right there.
You see how she's ducked her head to the right?
I'm going to pause it.
Now, she's way ahead of Michael.
If she was to continue at her same speed for her job, she should be way over the bar in
a second, but she clearly slows down so that they're going to intersect at that kind of
juncture where you have to walk in the bar.
So go ahead.
This is the shake I talked to you about in the beginning, the opening shake. Pause it.
This guy over here with his hands on his hips is the angry manager, okay?
If you go back a few seconds, I want him to see what he does with a hand clap when he sees her with Michael.
He's going to put behind the bar.
You'll see him walk out.
So focus on him this time instead of on her
we went back a little far
it's not as granular as it should be
okay
we got it coming down
because here she comes
he sees her back there where he's vectored
and he comes up, the manager.
And you'll see him when he sees her.
Watch his expression when he does.
See the claps?
I don't know what that is.
Then he comes up here, and you can see he's visibly frustrated at what's going on somehow with her.
Now let's take it fucking back to Michael and her.
Because you can see they have friendly interaction.
Body language is good.
And they're just talking.
In fact, as you see, he keeps more space from him than he does when he's talking to any male at any point in the bar.
Some of y'all probably wish you'd keep more space when he talked to you.
That's pacing, hitting his hands, he's upset over there on the left, with whatever's happening.
The guy in the gray up top, that's the security guard that's wandering around.
He'll circle around many times around Michael and her.
Pause it one second.
We've been going for a while.
They're having a lot of conversation.
As Marriott released in their statement, they said basically he said one word to her, an offensive, vulgar thing that he did not say, and it's clear from the video and from these witnesses.
But they have a very lengthy conversation, and no one's trying to tell us what that is.
Go ahead.
That's where she tells some kind of joke, I believe, to him.
You see him kind of bend over.
She's shaking her head back and forth like that.
He walked in closer to her.
She didn't back up at all.
Now they're shaking hands.
Now I want you to watch the end interaction here.
Because she's going to kind of, when the people come up, she'll kick her leg.
As she walks off, she's still talking to Michael over the shoulder, all friendly.
There you go.
Kicks her leg.
And see, right here, she's going to look back over her shoulder and take it to Michael.
Now pause it.
Pause it.
Okay.
They claim he was leering at her.
When he looks back in the bar, she's way gone.
Because you're about to watch, she's going to go over here, and that guy is going to get very visibly upset with her.
And basically, there's somebody who's, I don't want to use the word abusive,
but there's somebody who's really being forward to her.
It's this gentleman here.
It wasn't Michael.
So watch what happens.
Okay, go ahead and roll the tape.
You see him grab her, and she falls down positive.
Now Michael's looking over there for the first time he's not watching her he's
talking to these guys you'll see in a second they turn around and they start
talking to him the guy in the white hat okay go ahead see now Michael walks out to go take a selfie with his, we believe, Renaissance employee, 99% sure.
And the security guy stays right there with him.
He's been around for the whole conversation already. Show the mic where the elevator is.
Okay, you can stop.
There's nothing else relevant on this tape.
It just shows the lobby for another couple of minutes.
All right, folks, we're going to go to a break.
When we come back, we're going to talk with Clarence Hill,
who is the Cowboys beat writer for the Fort Worth Telegram.
Talk about this case.
Michael Irvin has been fighting back vigorously.
His attorneys say, Marriott, you're going to have to pay up.
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Clarence Hill is the Cowboys beat writer for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
He has covered Michael Irvin for a number of years.
Glad to have him on the show.
Yes, I do allow Omegas on the show occasionally.
All right, Clarence, let's get right to it.
When this story dropped, oh, yeah, I forgot your short horn.
Yeah, welcome to the SEC.
Get used to going five and seven.
All right, let's get right to it
man uh look here's the deal i remember when this story happened it was it was strange for them to
literally remove michael irvin from his hotel throw him out ban him from all marriott's then
they fought the release of this video marriott uh the the hotel folks, the lawyers disobeyed the judge's order.
So he mandated that this video be released.
You were there at the news conference.
And it is clear Michael Irvin and his attorneys are pissed off with what they saw on that
video saying, how could this man make a lewd comment when you saw the reaction of this woman on the video?
Yeah, the body language does not match up to the allegation of the case.
Now, just a couple of some background.
According to Marriott, the NFL told them if they noticed anything or their employees did anything bad or something wrong at the hotel to notify them.
So that's why they notified the NFL when this supposedly went down
and he was removed from the hotel and removed from NFL coverage.
That was the NFL edict that, you know, on our employees or their employees,
if something went bad, then they would be noticed and they would handle that.
But looking at this case, you know, Mike Irvin had a press conference last week,
and he said it was, you know, being railroaded and compared to a black man getting lynched in 2023 without any proof.
The Marriott came up with some proof, finally, on the day that they were asked to reveal the video last Friday.
They made some allegations, although they at least detailed the allegations
that the woman had said, which caused them to do the action. Again, it does not, at least from
Michael Irvin's standpoint, from his attorney's standpoint, it does not match up to the video
that she's been sexually assaulted or a situation where she's uncomfortable, at least according to
their version of the video. Again, keep in mind, there's no audio.
It's just video.
You know, and we don't know what was exactly said.
Michael Irvin said he didn't say the things that was alleged, that the woman alleged in
the video.
But certainly, they are put out there.
They're putting their own story out there about the manager and how he was watching
them from the beginning.
And he was more upset with her and being more demonstrative with her than Michael Irvin ever was.
And I saw the news conference, and again, you see this video.
The way how the conversation even ended,
if somebody made a lewd comment to you, that's not
how, I mean, you would think the video
would show her sort of, you know,
falling back shocked or stunned.
That's literally not what we saw.
And they sort of walked us through this video.
And so I
think Mara's going to have a hell of a lot of
explaining to do
while they were so adamant that Michael
Irvin did something wrong.
Yeah, and I don't know.
I'm sure you know what the little comment was.
And if you want to put the comment, at least the alleged comment on there,
you know, that's fine.
But I know I've talked about this.
If my daughter, girlfriend, wife, whatever,
if someone made that statement toward her that alleged to make Michael Irvin,
it would not be in a minute conversation.
They would walk away immediately, I would think.
And maybe, you know, just talking to different people,
people had no things differently.
But the alleged comment that was made,
if this was made and you were bothered by it,
why would you continue the conversation?
Why are you shaking hands, doing all this other stuff at the end?
None of that at least jives with the conversation.
But not only Mary, Mary's going to
have a problem, and maybe the NFL, who kind of rushed a judgment on Michael. The other part here
that must be noted, no criminal charges were ever filed, okay? So this is not a criminal case. This
is a he-say-she-say case in the court of public opinion, certainly in civil court to a certain
extent. Michael's trying to clear his
name, trying to get his job back. But I don't know if there's a path to total immunity because,
you know, it's not like a judge can say, you didn't say this. You know, there's no,
you know, because it's not a criminal case or you are innocent.
The thing that jumps out at me here, I mean look michael irvin and i michael
and i would joke a lot a lot about this he knows i can't stand the cowboys uh but look professional
professional and i do joke with michael when i say man michael uh was great for me in my career
i won a whole bunch of awards michael irvin was out there uh you know, getting busted in hotel rooms. I, you know, I broke that that drug story.
But I remember also broke the story when he had the rape settlement, when he was accused of rape.
And I remember he was leaving Cowboys Cafe and he yelled to the media.
Same intensity, same intensity when he was cleared as it was when he was accused.
And and and and and I called him and And I called him about a few weeks ago, and he said, also publicly, he said, listen.
He said, you know, I've done a lot of stuff in my life that was true.
He said, this, I didn't do this.
And I've seen Irvin take
the fall for stuff, but
here he is
absolutely angry with how his
name has been dragged through the mud by this.
Yeah, I mean, it's
killing his career. And certainly
we know his reputation, we know his
history. I think that's part of
the thing here, certainly in the court of public
opinion, it was Mike Irvin, he did it. And that's the way he feels, is that people already believe I'm guilty
because of my past. And you look at the situation, certainly I was there reporting with the same
intensity. He certainly said that back then, and he hopes to be able to say that now,
report his innocent report that he's been exonerated with the same intensity.
And, you know, he's devastated.
His family is devastated.
You know, it was one thing when he was, you know, a player.
It's another thing now, you know, at this point in his life,
and he has this, you know, blossoming media career with ESPN as well as the NFL Network.
That's all on hold right now.
Absolutely.
And it was a lot of embarrassment, and people began to say all kinds of different things like that.
And so, again, he wants his name back.
As I said, his lawyers have filed a case in Collin County to get this legal action going, to get the video released.
Now they've refiled in Arizona.
And so now it's going to be very interesting to see what happens as this case moves forward.
Does Marriott settle?
Are we seeing depositions?
But based upon what I saw and heard today, Michael Urban and his attorneys,
they are not going to back off of this in any way whatsoever.
No, they're fighting it to the end.
I mean, this is Michael's career, you know, and they're not backing down and they're going
to take it as high as they can take it.
Certainly trying to get his name back, trying to get his job back, you know, it's personal
to him.
You know, I've watched him the last couple of weeks and he's hurt.
You know, he's beyond himself and disappointment and saying, I did nothing wrong here.
Yes, he's said, you know, certainly we all know what he's done in the past, accused of being doing.
But he says, in this instance, I did nothing wrong.
And I'm being accused.
I'm being tried.
You know, as he said last week, I'm being hung without evidence.
All right.
Clarence, chill, heal. Throat Telegram, man, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you, man. All right. Clarence Chilhill,
Throat Telegram.
Man, I appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Got to go to break.
We come back.
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Let's pull up our panel right now.
Joining us on today's show, we of course have
Randy Bryant, DEI disruptor, Dr. Jason Nichols, senior lecturer, African American Studies
Department, University of Maryland, College Park. And of course, my man, Dr. Larry Walker
out of Florida. Glad to have y'all here. Here's the whole deal here.
Reputation is everything, everything, Randy. And so Michael Irvin, absolutely,
if he believes he did nothing wrong, he should fight this thing tooth and nail.
I hope he does. I hope he does not give up. There have been too many instances of false
allegations against black men.
And black men, unfortunately, are guilty until proven innocent, which is not right.
And I hope that after they're done with the case against Marriott, they actually go after a civil suit against the woman who's making the false allegations.
This cannot continue.
Yes, it's hurting his career, but even when this
is cleared up, and I believe it will be, there will still be smoke. It never will be the exact
same. There will always be doubt. And that is a burden on black men, that he has to carry that around. Thank you, Jason. Again, watching that video, and yes, it's just video,
there's no audio, but you would think that if Irvin said something obscene, as this woman alleged,
we would see a different type of reaction on that video. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, when you look at it and you take into account, you know, how a reasonable person would react.
Now, that's not to say that somebody may not react differently, but with the actions that
were taken in terms of banning him from the hotels, leaving him on Super Bowl weekend without anywhere to stay.
With that kind of reaction, I think you should have more solid proof than just one person's word.
And, you know, to me, it seemed like the reaction by Marriott is not supported by the video.
And I think you do have to fight for your reputation.
That's incredibly important.
That's something that will follow you.
And we know, and as you stated in your previous interview,
Michael Irvin's reputation has taken some hits over the years.
He can't afford any more.
And he had a good job.
He was seeming to rebuild his brand and his reputation.
He deserves that if he's not guilty of what's being said about him.
And from what I can see, I would lean toward that.
Now, that's not to say that it's indefinite, as you stated.
We don't have audio.
We don't know what he said.
But from what we can see, it doesn't appear to support what's being alleged.
And, you know, I think he deserves, you know, at least for him not to be smeared the way that it's seeming like he's being smeared right now.
Larry? the way that it's seeming like he's being smeared right now. Larry.
So, Roland, you mentioned earlier in terms of, you know,
so many ups and downs that Michael Irvin has encountered
in his professional career in Africa.
And I think this is people assuming based on some of those issues
that whatever was said between Michael and this lady are accurate.
And that's unfortunate in today's society.
And I'm really interested to see how this plays out over the next couple of weeks, couple of months.
And you said, I mean, Roli, you've been really clear, the point you made in terms of even the last interview,
that, you know, Michael has been really, and his attorney has been added about that.
He didn't say the things that he's being accused of saying.
And Marriott's response to this allegation was substantial in terms, like I said, putting
him out of the hospital, banning him, I mean, out of their hotels, et cetera.
So it was pretty extreme.
But the thing I'm thinking about in terms of, like I said, and Irvin and some of the
challenges in the past, can he even get back to where he was prior to this conversation?
And I don't know the answer to that.
You know, in today's society, in terms of, you know, making sure that women aren't being treated unfairly, I don't know if he could ever get his reputation back.
And no one, I don't know what he said.
No one knows what really was said between those two. And certainly, like, we can watch video, and
obviously there's no audio, and see some of the,
their interaction, and look at body language,
and try to assert, assume what happened.
But this becomes he-shay, she-shay.
And the question is,
once again, is there any way, in terms of
him getting back his reputation
that existed, five seconds until
their interaction? And I really don't know the answer to that
question, but it would be interesting to see how it plays out.
All right, then we certainly will be following this. Speaking of following,
y'all, we are following what's happening in Florida. I have been telling y'all for quite
some time that what Republicans are doing in Florida and other states are attacks on Black a tax on black people and anything dealing with equity.
Well, now what we are seeing play out here, it really deals with the issue of DEI.
So there have been two bills that have been proposed in Florida
that could have a negative impact on historically black colleges and universities.
There are two bills, Senate Bill 266, House Bill 999.
Now, Governor Ron DeSantis backs these bills, aimed at restructuring higher education,
eliminating all diversity, equity, and inclusion programs from college curriculum.
Now, that has advanced in the State House Committee.
The bill was approved by a
12 to 5 party line vote by the house post-secondary education and workforce subcommittee. It now
advances to the full, now advances forward. Now, joining us right now is from Tallahassee,
Florida State Representative Christopher Benjamin. Representative Benjamin, glad to have you here. Now, based upon what I've seen, the House bill is more draconian
than the Senate bill. So explain the negative impact this could have on historically black
fraternities and sororities. Thank you. And also Latinos. Thank you, Roland, for having me. I think what
the fear is, is that there is programming that we in our Black Greek organizations,
that we do that cater to our community, that deal with issues that are in our community.
And I think what the real fear is, is that that type of programming that these
organizations are historically known for could be unpended by this particular legislation,
meaning that those student body organizations won't get to address some of the issues that
they would normally address because those issues may deal with areas of law now that are being
sought to be banned. But in terms of our existence on college campuses,
a plain reading of the language of the bill
doesn't provide for our being banned from college campuses.
But what the fear is is that there is a part
in the House bill that subjects us to the policies
and procedures of the universities,
and a change in that by a university could possibly have an effect on us.
Now, I just saw a tweet.
Representative Chevron Jones just tweeted,
I would like to publicly thank the bill sponsor of Senate Bill 266,
Senator Aaron Graal, for hearing the concerns of our Black fraternities and sororities by removing
language that could have been an unintentional consequence to our organizations. As a proud
member of Alpha Phi Alpha, thank you. Yes, and that's great because, you know,
both the Senate and the House bill has to have homogeny in order to pass on to the governor's desk.
So with the Senate making it clear that the black Greek organizations such as mine, the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Incorporated, doesn't have a possibility of losing a status on college campuses.
What this shows, and this is what I keep trying to explain to people,
we have to be extremely vigilant because the actions of these Republicans could have just significant impact on African Americans.
They want to get rid of anything that deals with equity.
Yeah, and that's what's sad, because you can't tell me how equity and equality can't live together.
And that's the narrative, right?
They're going to switch equity for equality.
And we know that they don't mean the same thing.
But it doesn't also mean that they can't live together in harmony. There are things for
which we demand equity for because of the position that we have stood in society from a historical
standpoint. And so, obviously, so a bullet has been dodged, but certainly you and others there in the Black Caucus got to remain vigilant because, trust me, I don't trust DeSantis on anything.
Hey, listen, Roland, they called me to fix it, Representative.
And if in any way we can make a bill better, that's what me and my team are out here doing is trying to make these bills better, even though even if we can't vote for them at the end, we try to make the bill better for public consumption and so that we
can make sure that our college professors know what they can and cannot teach. I think that's
the chilling effect. When you purposely make these bills vague, then that's when our professors are
in fear that they don't know what they're allowed to teach and what they can't teach.
All right, Representative Benjamin, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Hey, we appreciate you, Roland. Keep it up.
Thank you very much. Randy, I want to start with you. Like I said, these consistent attacks on
anything dealing with DEI, this is what Republicans are doing. When I keep trying to
explain to people, this is not just about public education. They want to go after anything dealing
with DEI in corporate America, in law firms, in accounting firms. They want to go after it all.
This is all driven by white fear. Right. And it's not just, I don't think people understand, it's not
just about limiting what students are accepted, but it also is about limiting the professors that
are hired and also limiting what they're allowed to teach. If you look at what's happening in Texas,
they have specific words that you cannot use or you can be fired.
So one of those like systemic racism, right?
So they really don't want history taught the way that it actually existed.
So you're not able to even say these words, much less teach the concepts.
So they're restructuring history altogether to ensure that, of course, it favors them and ensures that they are when it comes down to voting and things like that, people are not educated.
The word that they're using is there's this whole attack on the word woke, whereas woke, you know, like Michael Harriet said, any time black people come up with a term that symbolizes our liberation,
they're people who use it as, change it into almost like a curse word.
And so that's what woke is now.
And they don't want people to be woke, which is honestly just means aware and educated.
They're doing everything to stop that.
Also with these bills, it's not just about hiring new professors. It also is saying
that they can evaluate the professors who are there now, evaluate the curriculum they've been
teaching and evaluate them on standards that don't include DEI. Because the assumption with
certain people is that if you fall under a marginalized group, a protected class,
then you probably only got your job for that reason, right? And not because you are highly
qualified. So it's dangerous what's happening right now. Larry, you're there at a university
there in Florida, State University. And what I keep hearing, a lot of teachers and professors who, frankly, they don't know what the hell to say or do because you don't know
what could offend this governor and Republicans in Florida. So let me just be clear. I know,
you know, you just heard about the Senate bill, which is not as anti-Black as this House bill, I'm just going to be clear. These bills are draconian,
Roland, and this will become a template for how to destroy higher education, particularly when
it comes to taking away tenure, not only in Florida and Texas, but nationally in red states.
And if either version of these bills pass, it's going to have a ripple effect in higher education throughout the United States.
And you're right, Roland, I'm very involved on campus in terms of issues supporting black faculty and staff.
And there are a lot of people concerned. This will lead to a mass exodus.
Let me also highlight some of the troubling provisions of the bill, Roland.
One of them is traditionally faculty members involved in hiring and then it works its way up the chain, and the president approves it. This bill in the House version, the board makes the decision on
who gets hired with no input from the president of the university or faculty. So there's no shared
governance here. So what you have here is a power play. What the idea is, you either have members
of the board and the president who has more
right-leaning and then will hire right-leaning professors who espouse certain ideas and so this
the idea that dei is some kind of is an issue and it's destroying america but there's no focus on
the issues or the reasons or the ideologies of why we had january 6th and why we nearly had an
insurrection in this country.
So DEI is not the issue here. But once again, Roland, this is a reminder of people that the civil rights movement never ended. This has been ongoing. And if Black folks don't continue to
fight as vigilantly as possible, then this will become a template for what we see in states
throughout the United States and will be the end of higher education as we know.
You're there in Maryland. Luckily, Jason, you've got Democrats controlling the House,
Senate, and the governor's mansion. But trust me, this could be a template for what could happen by Republicans across the South and how this can negatively impact many of our HBCUs that are state universities.
Yeah, I agree. I think I'm going to sound the alarm even more than my colleagues just stated.
I think that this is an attack on the First Amendment, on academic freedom. I think it's
terrifying. And number one, me being in black studies, it doesn't matter what state I'm in. I feel like my field and discipline are under attack in particular by a guy who could end up
being the next president of the United States. And I think it's also an attack on things like
Chicano studies, Native American studies, women's studies, LGBT studies. This is an attack on academic freedom,
particularly for untenured people. They're not going to teach the ways that they are trained
to teach. They're not going to teach the classes that they want to teach. This is something that I
think should sound alarms for everyone across the country. And again, we're just coming out of a Republican administration.
And, you know, two of our last four governors
have been here in Maryland, have been Republicans.
So I don't necessarily feel 100% safe here,
even though this is a blue state
and, you know, our legislature is overwhelmingly Democratic.
But, you know, these kinds of waves
can go through the country.
We should all be advocating
for what we can fix here
because this is terrifying.
When you start saying
you can't say certain words,
you can't read certain books,
you can't assign certain essays,
I think that that should be,
that should terrify everybody and be a First
Amendment violation. And we should see lawsuits all around the country against Ron DeSantis and
what's going on there in Florida. All right, folks, hold tight one second. Got to go to break.
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You know, one of the things, first of all, while we were in the going to break there. Randy sent me this here.
So you remember the Republican judge
who spoke at Stanford University
and whined and complained
about the so-called woke mob of students
who were critical of him.
And there was a dean there at Stanford
who took him to task as well.
Well, Stanford has apologized
for the words of that particular dean.
And again, because they did not like this Trump-appointed judge who they say had been taunted.
Isn't it amazing they love to call people snowflakes,
but when they get any sort of criticism, they in turn do the exact same thing
and just, you know, like afraid of any criticism afraid of any heat and so all they
do will just complain about something all right that's what they do uh control room have y'all
found the sierra photo all right y'all so here's the deal so sierra of course the singer married to
uh nfl quarterback russell wilson uh she turned a lot of heads and some folks batted a lot of eyes over this outfit she wore to the after parties at the Oscars.
This sheer dress, some say it's not a dress.
And boy, it's been a lot of people have been commenting. In fact, somebody hopped on my Instagram page and told me
that, oh, someone must have hacked my page because I approved of what she had on. And there were
others who, somebody else said, you know, I can't, how dare you? You will be angry if your wife wore something like that.
Let me remind y'all something here right now.
Okay.
Sierra Princess Harris.
That's her actual name.
It's 37 years old.
Sierra is a grown ass woman. And when I hear
these people talking about, oh, how dare her husband
let her wear, again, that's a grown ass woman.
Somebody said, again, they posted
you wouldn't let your wife wear it.
Her ass can wear what she want to wear.
She grown.
Now, if folk criticize what you got or praise what you got,
then you deal with that.
But what the hell is wrong with some of y'all
who want to police with a grown-ass woman?
Maybe some of the people out there whining and complaining,
man, because you ain't got Ciara's body.
Now, if that's your problem, well, take your ass to the gym or call one of our dietitians
and get your act together. But what I
think is just beyond stupid, first of all, we all remember
the dress J-Lo wore to the Grammy years ago. We still talk
about that dress, okay?
There have been other people who have worn outfits,
who have worn dresses that are just as revealing as that one,
but I don't care.
These folks are really killing me with this whole
how dare her husband let her walk out the door with that on.
Right. And she's an entertainer who has always dressed seductively.
This is not something new.
And I believe that she can wear what she wants to wear, but clearly her husband was fine with it.
But there's always been a battle for black women being able to be many things, to be professional, to also be sexual.
We've always been the ones who are called fast if we do anything.
And I think that we need to release that and allow us to be whole women and do as we want to do.
They kill me, Jason, with how did Russell Wilson lit?
It's just like when I went to the Howard Charter ceremony, there was a brother.
I had my African outfit on.
And this brother said, man, I wish I would have worn mine, but my wife wouldn't let me.
I said, what the hell do you mean lit?
Your ass grown. My wife ain't got no veto power over a damn thing I wear
and ain't got veto power over nothing she wear. Now, if she asks my opinion
about something she's wearing, I'll give my opinion
as if she asked. Now, I don't ask opinion what I wear, what the hell I want to wear.
But that's just straight up, okay? But I just don't get this whole deal. How did he let her? She 37 and grown.
Right, exactly. I don't get, first of all, she looks fantastic. I think she looks great. I think
Lizzo looks great. And I think they make decisions for themselves.
And it's a red carpet. People wear things on a red carpet that maybe we wouldn't wear to the
movies. You know what I mean? I don't understand why people were so offended and why people are
either offended by Russell Wilson or offended for Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson is a grown man himself.
He's fine.
He's okay.
He's not blinking for help.
He's next to a beautiful woman, and she's making her own decisions.
He's making his own decisions.
They're parenting together.
They're living their lives together, and they are not worried about your opinion. So just everybody just needs to chill out, enjoy
it for the red carpet that it was
for that event
and
just get off of everybody
back about it.
She looks great.
Hey, Larry, I got
some full sports actuary
filtered on the chat room.
Roland, I'm sorry, but you never go against an A-list black celebrity.
Yo, sports actuary unfiltered.
She a grown-ass woman.
Cher has worn revealing outfits.
Rihanna has worn revealing outfits.
Numerous folks have.
Somebody need to go sit y'all asses down.
Larry, go ahead with your comment.
So I think I'm going to go with this old adage, stay out of grown folks' business.
That's first of all. Second of all, stop trying to police Black women's bodies. This is what this
is really about. And so, listen, Roland, I don't, she can wear whatever she wants to wear. I'm not
on here to get myself in any trouble. She does not have to get permission from her husband. She owns her own body, and she wore it well. I congratulate her.
Like I said, I know Hollywood is all the pressures you have to deal with in terms of
wearing, what you look like. She has to deal with all that, her husband obviously being a
star quarterback. So once again, Roland, I'm not going to police a black woman's body.
She wore it.
This is her decision.
And I salute her.
Hey, let me explain something to y'all, okay?
All right.
So this would be me at the Vanity Fair party.
Roland, I can't believe your wife wore that.
I'm with her.
She with me.
You take your ass on.
I'm going to sit here and look at her.
And guess what?
You can look at her too.
But I'm going home with her.
Anything else you got to say?
I thought so.
All right, y'all.
Sierra, do what you do. Do what you do. Be fine and grown and wear what you got to say? I thought so. All right, y'all. Sierra, do what you do.
Do what you do.
Be fine and grown and wear what you want to wear.
And the rest of y'all, y'all don't like it, take your asses to the gym.
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and you're watching Roland Martin, Unfiltered. All right, y'all, let's talk about hair.
This has been one of the issues that many black women in Hollywood
who are models in the music game have complained about for years,
black women who are also in television, TV anchors,
that you got folk who do their hair who
do not know how to do black hair. When you talk about the styles, when you talk about
the items we use, what I, we use all these jokes, when I did my TV One show, News One
Now, that was, so the studio that we used was at NBC News Channel.
So whenever Brian Williams or Rachel Maddow or any of them would come to Washington, D.C.,
they would do their show from the exact same studio.
And so that was a two-deck table that was right on the left side.
And so on the top shelf was one of those brushes that is easily, that's a white folks hair.
That's what Brian used.
On the bottom, it was a bristle brush.
Well, that's what I used.
We didn't use the same hair.
We've heard the exact same thing on the issue of makeup, how black folks are made up.
We've heard this, how black people are lit.
We can go down the line about this because we talk about, again,
how the different shades in terms of how we are lit, how we are shown.
So the topic came up on Sherri Shepherd's daytime talk show.
And so watch this conversation.
So this is one thing I'm very upset about.
A black model posted a viral video of how her hair was styled for a New York Fashion Week show.
OK, look at Raven showed a clip of stylists attempting to do her hair.
But this was a fail. Look this what are they pulling it's like
they're pulling what are they doing i hate this and so they did we're pulling on her hair well
and then they attached a synthetic they attached a synthetic like tail to the back of her head
her face looks beautiful the hair i don't know what uh this is a big complaint with black
models and actors and and you know when you're on the set with people who don't know how to do your
hair in the in the modeling community i don't think they have enough black people who know how
to do the women's hair it's natural hair because there's a certain way you have to manipulate the
hair john so it comes out like this and she looked beautiful but her hair looked crazy It's natural hair because there's a certain way you have to manipulate the hair, John.
So it comes out like this and she looked beautiful, but her hair looked crazy.
And I'm going to tell you, it happens with actors as well.
When we get on the set and we don't have anybody to do our hair, it's usually when we first start out.
Because I was on a sitcom once.
I'll tell you, they didn't know how to do my hair.
I had pressed it the night before so they could just do it.
But the man thought the
hairstylist thought it was too oily so he poured face powder on my hair to absorb the oil and then
that congealed up and it got really lumpy then he blow dried my hair okay that's like cooking fish
in hot grease so he burned my hair out and it was such a mess. We couldn't do the show. They
had to call. Her name was Julie. She worked over on Living Single. She did Queen Latifah's hair.
She was on the same lot. They called Julie to come and do my hair and fix it all up. And I remember
I just wanted to cry because a lot of times if it's not your show, you can't say anything with
it. You can't get an attitude.
You don't want to be seen as somebody hard to work with.
And it really messed up my hair.
I lost some hair.
And this is what I hate.
John, when you go on the set, I did another sitcom.
And when they say to me, this is what they always say.
Oh, my gosh, you're naturally pretty.
We don't have to do anything.
That's cold, but we have no idea what we're doing.
We don't. That's cold, but we have no idea what we're doing. Folks, Johnny Wright is the author of Natural and Curly Hair for Dummies.
He has styled hair for the likes of First Lady Michelle Obama, Tamron Hall, and many, many more.
Of course, I knew Johnny when I was on radio at WVON in Chicago.
Johnny, glad to have you on the show.
Johnny, this is not just about who can do hair.
This is about economic opportunity.
This is about economic exclusion.
How black hairstylists, how black makeup artists, lighting directors have been frozen out
and then the black artists have been left to fend for themselves
and sometimes looking crazy as hell by folk who don't know how to do their hair,
do their makeup, or how to light them.
It happens all the time.
It happens on movie sets, television sets, on runways.
It happens in editorial.
There's always a fear when a black woman goes into on set,
if the person is there is going to know their texture properly and know how to manage it,
style it and take care of it properly. It's a big deal. And it's always a big deal. That's the uh and uh i'm sure you have uh lots of uh horror stories of getting that 9-1-1 johnny get here
yeah it happens this happens all the time you know and particularly on on set because
you know even with the union you know i just applied for the union. And, of course, every year they make it harder and harder for you to get into the union.
I was accepted last year and then I had the flu, so I couldn't make the interview.
So that means I was denied.
And now I'm back trying to get back in again.
But the thing is, is you would think they would want to have us on set because there are so many black actors on set.
And you want people there to
delegate and know exactly how to do their hair texture and i have gotten a call so many times
can you meet me on set can you come here and can you fix this because the person on that set wasn't
able to do their texture and the thing is so you also have to get around that and so i'm sure you've had situations where
it's kind of like okay uh do the hair in the car or do the hair at the hotel and then we'll show
up because again that sister she's trying to look her best and if you got those union folks who like
absolutely not can't do it here okay we're gonna figure this we're gonna figure a way around this sucker then yeah the thing about it is it says you know for me when
we went to beauty school we learned about all textures of hair now specifically most of the
textures that was in the milady's book was focused on straight white hair right but because i went
to dudley's Beauty College,
they focused on natural hair, they focused on relaxers,
and they focused on all the things that were in our community.
But what I don't understand is all money is green. You know, when I worked in Chicago, 95% of my clientele was black,
5% was white.
But then when I moved to L.A., 90% of my clientele was white,
10% was black. And the thing the thing is for me money is green so i want anybody to be able to sit in my chair no matter what color
you are it's all about understanding texture and being a true hairstylist and being able to
invite anybody into your chair uh and i I saw a video you dropped
where you said, yes,
you are supposed to learn
how to do different
textures. If you want
to call yourself
a celebrity
or whatever a hairstylist,
damn it, learn how to do
all hair. Listen,
if you want to call yourself a hairstylist, period, learn how to do all hair. Listen, if you want to call yourself a hairstylist, period, learn how to do all hair.
That should be a standard when it comes down to getting your license.
They should have some type of testing to know that you can work with each texture of hair.
So there's no such thing as discrimination in your business.
So if somebody comes to the salon and they want
the hair done, you can service them because you learn how to do that in school. There should be
no way that you're in a salon, you're in a, let's say a plaza somewhere, and not anybody can walk
in and get the hair done. If they go the same for a black stylist to be able to do all Texas hair,
it should be the same for the others.
Questions from our panel.
Randy, you're first.
I can't hear.
Randy, you're muted.
Sorry.
When you say that people should learn all types of hair, which is a great DEI problem to have problem or fix right now, when you get your license, are you only tested on one type of hair?
So it's according to what school you go to. Right. So I went to Dulles Beauty College, which is a predominantly black school, but we learn all textures of hair in that school.
But if you go to maybe a Paul Mitchell, it will be a little different. The demographics there are
going to be more on the white side, and that's what they're going to teach you. But to answer
your question, when you get your license, when you go get your state board, there should definitely
be a clause in there where you can be tested. You have a theory testing, and then you have a technical testing, right?
The technical testing should include all textures of hair.
That way you know that this person is equipped to work at any salon.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So there seems to be the diversity is there, but there's nothing that's been done to create inclusion.
Exactly.
It should start at ground zero, which is when you're in cosmetology school.
I remember when I was working at the White House, I was working at Immortal Beloved, which is a predominantly white salon.
And the owner of the salon wanted me to teach the staff, which is the all-white staff.
I was the only black
stylist in there, they wanted to teach the staff on textured hair so they can all invite
anybody into their chair.
And that's the type of work that these salons need to be doing across the world.
Absolutely.
Thanks for that.
Larry.
Yeah, so I'm glad you wrote a book about this.
And we know it, you know, policy-wise, the Crown Act, the state and federal level, you know, in terms of how, you know, Black women's hair in the workplace, et cetera.
But I wanted to find out in terms of the industry with your book, have you been invited to various places to give speeches and talk about the importance of this, considering all your years of experience in the book that you have? Yeah, so I have been invited prior to the book to speak about this in certain areas,
but the book just came out in November.
It's doing well.
And my 11-city tour has just got picked up, so that's going to start in June.
And these are the type of conversations that we're going to have in those 11 cities.
And I will, of course, be doing more lectures around this topic.
Now that the book is out and it's getting more popular, I would definitely see myself getting
invited into these spaces more often. I definitely want to continue the conversation because, again,
it's really about texture, right? Anybody can possess that texture of hair. You know, these
textures go from white to black, but anybody can have the texture. So learning the texture is what's key.
Then you could take the race out of it.
It's really about learning the texture.
Jason.
So this is a really, really fascinating conversation.
You know, I always think about what I would always hear from women, that they would want a Dominican stylist because they have to know how to do everybody's hair, you know, because they go from very straight hair to very, you know, someone in Iowa has to know this, you know,
know how to do, you know, 4C black hair? Is it standardized just by state or is it nationwide?
Are there nationwide standards for beauty school?
So they're the part of the curriculum, right, where you have to take a manual test and showing certain things that you learn in clinical and when you're in school.
Right. And I remember us learning how to do relaxers and learn how to do also perms, which back in the day was called jerry curls.
Right. We those are things that we have to be able to do in order to pass to get our state board.
So to answer your question, the same thing can be done when it comes down to understanding all textures.
There could be a part of the manual testing of it where you are qualified and you are required to understand and to work with all textures of hair. So, yes, it can be, you know, put in through the state board through each state
and basically have a start with each state at a time,
and then it can spread around the whole country.
Thank you.
Well, like so much of this country, white is over the top of the list.
And as I said at the outset, Johnny, this obviously impacts those women who are getting their hair done.
But this is also how African-Americans like yourself are frozen out of the industry,
don't go on to become celebrity stylists or doing shows, stuff along those lines.
And so this is how we're also hurt economically.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's really true.
This is why I'm so in support of the Crown Act,
because they're starting to do, you know,
so much work legislative-wise around the country
just so people can show up to work as their natural self, you know?
And that is going to change,
and then hopefully that can trickle down
into the cosmetology schools and the state board. And then we can have a more understanding of
what is proper when it comes down to how you're dressing black women in their hair texture,
how look at them and how they're, you know, how they're viewed when they walk into the workplace.
All those things are systematic things that we need to debunk at this one in time.
All right, Johnny Wright, we still appreciate it, man.
Thanks a bunch.
Thank you.
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Hey, everybody. This is Sherri Shepherd. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered.
And while he's doing Unfiltered, I'm practicing the wobble. Darlene Turner has not been seen since November 22nd.
The 15-year-old teen walked away from her Indianapolis, Indiana home.
She's 5 feet 4 inches tall, weighs 130 pounds, with brown hair and brown eyes. Anyone with information about Darlene Turner is urged to call the Indianapolis,
Indiana Metropolitan Police Department at 317-327-3811.
317-327-3811.
A Mississippi family is looking for answers in the death of their son.
Police say there was no foul play whatsoever in the death of Rasheem Carter.
He is from Fayette, Mississippi, and he vanished on October 9th after calling his mother, Tiffany Carter,
and telling her white men were chasing him using racial slurs.
Tiffany, flanked by civil rights attorney Ben Crump,
explained to reporters why they are demanding the Justice Department
take over the investigation.
Tiffany Carter, who heart is broken, but yet she's still fighting to make sure that we catch these murderers.
One thing is for certain, as attorney O'Neill and I talked with my investigator Arthur Reed, this was not a natural killing.
This was not a natural death.
This represents a young man who was killed.
His head was severed from his body. His vertebrae, his spinal cord was in another spot they discovered away from his severed head. They have recently found remains that they believe are also believer also Racine Carter at another part of where he went missing. And what that tells us
is that this was a nefarious act. This was an evil act. Somebody murdered Racine Carter.
My son told me that it was three truckloads of white guys trying to kill him.
And at the time that he told me, as a mother, you know, I had to think fast.
So I told him, you know, to go to the police station because I felt in my heart that they would serve and protect
like they obligated to do. But at that particular time, I thought telling him to do that was the
right thing to do. But I learned later that it actually wasn't on the behalf of him.
But at the end of the day, you know, he did. He was obedient. He did what I asked him to do.
And he went to the police and they did not?
They did not help him. He asked for help, but they didn't help him.
You know, he did, like I said again, he did the right thing by asking, but they didn't help him. Folks, again, Rasheem was working in Taylorsville, Mississippi,
when he fled the job site fearing for his life following a disagreement with at least one co-worker.
He was discovered on November 2nd in a wooded area south of Taylorsville.
The Smith County Sheriff's Department and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation concluded there was no
foul play in his death. Authorities
conducted an autopsy on February
2nd but declined the comments citing the
open and ongoing search.
In Georgia, a former
sheriff is headed to prison for
violating the civil rights of
inmates. Victor Hill is going to
spend 18 months in
federal prison after a jury convicted him
on six counts in October of using unreasonable force and violating inmates' constitutional rights
by strapping them down and leaving them in restraint chairs inside the Clayton County Jail,
sometimes for hours. Hill will also have six years of supervised release and must complete community service.
Federal prosecutors want him to serve four years in prison.
He was a sheriff in Clayton County for nearly 15 years before he was indicted and suspended in 2021.
A special election is scheduled for March 21st to elect Hill's replacement as sheriff.
Early voting ends on Friday, March 17th.
Folks, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers charged with deprivation of rights
under color of law and falsifying a document of a federal investigation.
A federal grand jury in the Western District of Texas returned the three-count indictment
against Miguel Delgado Jr.
He's accused of using excessive force in two separate incidents on or about June 15, 2020 and October 20, 2019,
while he was on duty at the Bridge of America's port of entry in El Paso, Texas.
If convicted, Delgado faces a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison for each use of force incident
and a maximum of 20 years in prison for submitting
a false report about one of the incidents. In Texas, some Texas State House Democrats
want to increase access to Mexican-American and black ethnic studies in the Lone Star State.
House Bill 45 was reintroduced by Houston House Democrat Christina Morales. The bill would require
Mexican and African-American studies to be offered in every school district
as social studies options in addition to rural history and world geography
and allow the courses to count towards graduation credit.
The bill would require Mexican and African American studies to be offered in every school district
as social studies options in addition to rural history and world geography
and allow the courses to count towards graduation credit.
Mexican American and African American Studies are elective courses in some of Texas' 1,250 school districts
with only 63 districts teaching Mexican American Studies and 58 conducting African-American studies.
All right, folks, Desmond Howard, NFL great, was flying,
and let's just say there were some turbulence in the air.
Who better to explain it than him?
Watch this video.
So I'm on this American Airlines flight, and before we took off,
the supervisor comes up, and she speaks to the
guy sitting next to me. She said, you want to talk to me? He said, yeah, I think you should
remove this gentleman from the plane because he's sick. Talk about me. And I said, I'm sorry,
you're a doctor? He says, well, you've been coughing all over the place.
This is before we even took off, right?
I said, well, you can leave the plane and take another flight because I'm not leaving.
All I was doing was clearing my throat.
So Carol, the supervisor, she's looking, and guess what card he tried to play. He said, I'm sure if you check our status, my status is higher than his.
So I said, Carol, yeah, check our seats and let me know whose status is the highest.
And as you see, I'm still sitting on this plane. and let me know whose status is the highest.
And as you see, I'm still sitting on this plane.
As a matter of fact, we're in the air right now.
The caucasity of him.
Unbelievable.
All right, everybody, you guys have a happy Sunday.
Peace.
Jason, the carcassity of him.
Unbelievable.
And the fact that he brought it to status is, I mean, is just ridiculous all in and of itself.
You know, I mean, listen, people cough on planes.
I get a little nervous since the pandemic too, but I don't, you know, I mean, listen, people cough on planes. I get a little nervous since the pandemic, too.
But I don't, you know, demand somebody be kicked off of a plane, particularly he's wearing a mask, clearly.
So, you know, which you don't have to do anymore.
I mean, this is just like he said, it's caucasity. It's unbelievable that he thought he could pull the status card in order to have someone removed from a plane who hasn't done anything but clear their throat.
If anything, I mean, I wish that Desmond could have put the camera on him a little longer so we could see who he is and, you know, actually not to harass him or anything like that.
So we know to steer clear of that individual because he's clearly
something's wrong with that
guy.
Larry,
I've always said this here.
Having status while flying
is the closest we as black
people can get to white privilege.
As my dad was like,
yeah, check the status.
Check the status.
Yeah, it's also interesting because Desmond
Howard is a Heisman Trophy winner
and also
Super Bowl MVP.
So he certainly came
for the wrong person, but you're right. I'm glad he,
you know, he recorded the video and showed this individual so he understood what he was dealing
with. But like he said, Desmond said, we saw where he was still sitting on that plane.
But unfortunately for Black folks in Roland, we have to deal with stuff like this all the time,
depending on where we are, whether it's in a workplace, whether it's a plane, whether it's
on the train station, airport, wherever we are.
We have to deal with these interactions where people think less of us
because of our race or ethnicity.
So I'm glad the gentleman got humbled.
So don't come for a former Super Bowl MVP next time.
Randy, this is just what it means.
This is just, Randy, what it means
When you're black
And Desmond was kind of like
I'm about to make you real famous
Right, you know
And I'm not surprised that it happened
I think that all of us have been checked
In different areas
Just living regular life
That someone, one, doesn't feel like
We belong a certain place
And feel superior enough To tell us to get out or to question why we are there.
I mean, you see people going to pools and everything and white people feeling as if they have the authority to check us,
as if we still have to be walking around with our papers.
And so it always tastes so good. It's so yummy
when it turns out the way it did in Desmond's case. It's really like that. It's my favorite
song. I replay stuff like that all the time. I'll tell you this here. One of the greatest
stories I have ever heard was from Chicago attorney, Peter Bino.
So, uh,
I played golf with Peter when I lived in Chicago.
And so now Peter's a short dude.
Peter's probably five,
three,
five,
four.
Okay.
Peter,
if you're tall in that,
my bad,
but he's short.
So he gets,
he gets on a plane and in first class and this white guy looks at him and he
goes,
well,
you ain't tall enough to play basketball.
You're not big enough to play football.
So what do you do to be sitting in first class?
Peter Bynum.
Straight up.
Straight up.
Straight up.
Peter Bynum, without missing a beat, he he says i'm the biggest drug dealer in chicago and he opens up his wall street journal crosses his leg and doesn't say a word the rest of
the flight and the whole fight this guy's like he ain't know what you do now mind you peter's a
two thousand dollar an hour attorney, okay?
Used to be a minority owner of the Denver Nuggets.
So, but he froze homeboy when he said, I'm the biggest drug dealer in Chicago.
He's like, that's what you get for asking me that dumbass question.
Let me go to a break.
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A lot of these corporations or people that are running stuff push black people
if they're doing a certain thing.
What that does is it creates a butterfly effect
of any young kid who wants to leave any situation they're in
and the only people they see are people that are doing this.
So I gotta be a gangster, I gotta shoot, I gotta sell,
I gotta do this in order to do it.
And it just becomes a cycle.
But when someone comes around and is making other,
oh, we don't, you know, they don't wanna push it
or put money into it.
So that's definitely something I'm trying to fix too,
is just show there's other avenues.
You don't gotta be a rapper, you don't gotta be a ballplayer.
You can be a country singer, you can be an opera singer,
you can be a damn whatever, you know?
Showing the different avenues.
And that is possible, and it's hard for people
to realize it's possible until someone does it.
We're all impacted by the culture, whether we know it or not.
From politics to music and entertainment, it's a huge part of our lives. And we're going to talk about it every day right here on The Culture
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Folks, we've talked a lot about this story about infant mortality,
and a new study shows you how devastating this is for African-Americans.
According to the CDC, about 3,400 U.S. babies die suddenly and unexpectedly every single year.
Recent studies say the number of black babies die at almost three times the rate of white infants in 2020.
The study published by the American Academy of Pediatrics with research from the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention found that the SUID rate, sudden infant death, SUID rate
per 100,000 live births was highest among black infants in 2020, surpassing the SUID rate per 100,000 live births was highest among black infants in 2020,
surpassing the SUID rate among non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaskan Native immigrants,
which has been declining since 2015.
Joining me now is board-certified pediatrician Dr. Yolanda Hancock up in Marlboro, Maryland.
Doc, glad to have you back on the show. So, okay, why?
Do we know why it's happening to black babies at a rate three times more than whites?
It's an excellent question.
When you look at the data, one of the explanations for the total increase was that there's a reclassification.
So what was previously known as sudden infant death syndrome is now sudden unexpected infant death syndrome. And those of us in pediatrics have redefined how we diagnose it once a baby has transitioned,
particularly for African-Americans. There are two factors that I feel that are at play. One,
we have to look at the risk factors for sudden unexpected infant death. The first is prematurity.
We know that babies born premature are at increased risk of SUID. The second is what
we call low birth weight, babies who are born less than 2, SUID. The second is what we call low birth
weight, babies who are born less than 2,500 grams. And those go hand in hand, particularly when we
talk about an important issue that you've covered, maternal mortality. Maternal health directly links
to birth weight and the timing of when a baby is born. The second factor specifically for people
of color, particularly Black people, is that this number significantly increased during the pandemic.
Part of it is housing.
How much space does a family have to be able to create space for that baby to sleep in a crib,
on a flat mattress without having to co-share in terms of bedding?
The second is what I call cost of economy.
A lot of us do not have parental leave.
So what ends up happening is that we have to sleep based on convenience.
It's much easier for a parent to have a baby close by, likely in the bed, if you have to go back to work after six weeks, as opposed to having to get up in the middle of the night every two hours to feed the baby.
And unfortunately for a lot of black people, paternity leave and maternity leave are just not what we have access to.
And this is the thing that, again,
I always make this point,
the folks who call themselves pro-life,
it's amazing how quiet they are on this topic.
Right.
You know, I always say people aren't pro-life,
they're pro-birth.
What we really have to think about are the resources that are afforded to families to be able to provide care for their babies.
We can push out a bag of formula in a diaper bag, but we can't create space for families to perhaps be given a co-sleeper.
There are resources available for parents to have the baby in the space with them and have it be more convenient and of course safe. We in the world of pediatrics want babies to be put
to sleep in their beds, on their backs,
without excess covers, no extra blankets, a firm mattress.
And I know your grandma, your auntie will tell you,
well, you slept on your stomach and you were just fine.
You don't want your baby to be the one baby
that isn't fine when you put them to sleep on their tummies.
Questions from our panel.
Randy, you're first.
Thank you so much for this important information. I know that when it comes to birth rates and death,
that this was regardless of socioeconomic level at one point.
Is this true when it comes to the sudden
infant death statistics? Very good question. Based on this study, there was a relationship
between poverty and risk of sudden unexpected infant death. And again, it goes back to what
we talked about earlier. Where's the safe space in a household for babies to have space for them
to sleep on their own without having the requirement to co-share a bed, and two, the ability of parents to be able to be at home and not have
to stress about having to wake up in the middle of the night and then show up for work the next day.
And so when we think through what, from a socioeconomic standpoint, the higher levels
of employment, the higher the likelihood that you will have parental leave, and that's something that really needs to be addressed in this country, especially if we're
trying to tackle infant mortality rates. This country ranks number 35 among developed nations.
Like, Slovenia has a higher position. Poland has a higher position in terms of infant mortality compared to the United States. Thank you for that. Jason.
So I know that we're talking about sudden, uninspected infant mortality, but I'm wondering,
you know, we've seen across the country where Republicans are trying to get rid of Medicaid or trying to stop Medicaid expansion.
Would Medicaid expansion help more infants to live longer? You know, because, you know,
I'm thinking because their mothers would get the kind of prenatal care that they deserve and they
would be able to, you know, I know children are covered, but would that affect this, do you think, this number?
Absolutely.
I always say that a baby's health is dependent on the health of the mother prior to conceiving.
And certainly if you expand Medicaid, you provide access to hopefully what will be equitable health care
so that women can optimize their health even before they become pregnant.
We know that cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death in pregnancy.
We want to make sure that we can address those issues well before conception.
And that really links to access to care.
And it's unfortunate that, especially with the public health emergency ending in May,
that across the country you're going to see a decline in terms of Medicaid coverage
that will then both directly and indirectly impact the health of Black babies.
Thank you.
Larry.
Yeah, I'm wondering if you could talk about also the importance of training more Black pediatricians
and making sure they're in underserved communities in the role you think this will also play in terms of lowering these numbers.
Absolutely. I think that that's a very important question. One, there's a level of trust
when you have concordance in terms of race with your physician. I know that there are a lot of
families that I have taken care of who felt more comfortable and feeling trusted that they can
share with me that they do co-sleep. And then we start to talk about, well, what's the reason why
we're co-sleeping? What do I need to do as a physician?
What resources can I connect you to?
There's a huge fear and a realistic one
that child protective services will get involved,
that babies will be taken from parents' homes,
I mean, for lesser than co-sleeping.
That's the reality when you look at the statistics
in terms of how often CPS is involved
when it comes to black families.
And so increasing the workforce in terms of healthcare professionals, particularly in
the area of pediatrics, is critical.
Little over 2% of us are physicians, and the majority of us are really starting to gear
towards the subspecialties and the higher-paying positions.
You know, I always joke that I roll a Honda and Sally Mae is my pimp because I committed
to a career in pediatrics knowing that I could have chosen any other career. I initially planned on a career in plastic surgery, but I lost
my cousin my sophomore year. And I said to my sorority sisters, what good is it if I fix their
faces if they can't survive to five? And so knowing that and having others sort of sign on
to have that same mission is how we're going to change the trajectory of our children's health.
About 45 seconds left for that parent out there. Is there anything they can do that's preventative dealing with sudden infant death syndrome?
The first is to make sure that we focus on putting our children to sleep on their backs. We know that
the Back to Sleep campaign has decreased the risk of sudden unexpected infant death by 60 percent. And have a conversation with your health care provider,
your pediatrician, your PA or your NP to talk through if you have to go sleep. Let's talk
through how we can safely create space for you and your baby to be in the same room.
All right, Doc, we so appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you.
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Hatred on the streets.
A horrific scene.
A white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence.
On that soil, you will not replace us.
White people are losing their damn lives.
There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol.
We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance.
We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing
is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people
of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson
at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo
Boys. America, there's going to be more of this.
This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because
of the fear of white people.
The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women.
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All right, folks.
Growing up, we all had the ebony pictorial history of black America to learn about black history.
Since then, we have witnessed many more accomplishments.
So, therefore, how do we chronicle those?
Well, the Alani Media Group, they've launched the Melanoid Chronicles, which is the first ever new millennium African diaspora encyclopedia series.
It's also the first ever to be created here in the U.S.
Joining us now is Alani Media Group's Chief Visionary Officer, Zarina Hameen, joining us from Philadelphia.
So glad to have you here, Zarina.
So, all right, an encyclopedia series.
And so is it hard copy?
Is it hard copy? Is it digital? Because, you know, we all remember those of us who are Gen Xers having all those encyclopedias and trying to buy each one of them in our families.
I grew up in the 80s, so same thing with me.
I always had the hard copies in my house. So what we did is we wanted to, the mission of
Alani Media Group is to merge traditional media with modern technology. So it is available in
hard copy as well as ebook for a new generation. So they have to do book reports in schools and
things like that. They can always just kind of go and download
it but it's also available for
generations like me and yourself
where you can
get it as a hard copy as well as a box
set
how have
folks reacted to it because again
if you didn't grow up with this you'd be like
I'm sure
encyclopedia, what the hell
is that?
And that's exactly it.
It's been a lost, it's kind of
a lost culture at this point. You don't
have people giving encyclopedias anymore.
So I wanted
to bring that back. I wanted
to bring back the encyclopedia series
and I wanted it to focus on
the fact that we don't have, you know, we have the Britannica, we have all these things, but I wanted it to focus on the new millennium because the reality is that we're always going to have a lost history in this country.
Always. There are so many things, and that's actually a part of our official statement, is, you know, when Katherine Johnson died in 2020, she received a memorial.
Everyone was so—and NASA gave her a Hall of Fame.
But four years before, we didn't even know who she was.
If hidden figures wouldn't have come out in 2016, we would have never known who this woman was if she would have died in Maine.
So we have so many stories like that.
But what we can do now
is we can change the trajectory of that
for the future generations.
So what the Melanoid Chronicles does
is it's there for all generations.
But if you're 23 and younger,
you have for the first time your history, people who are first groundbreaking documented.
And that's something that no other generation before them has ever had.
That's why the first one is a collector's edition of 20 and 2020.
I'm sorry, 2000 and 2020. And we'll bring one out every five years.
All right, then let's see here. Larry, you're first.
Yeah, so this is a great project. Also, glad to hear you from coming from my home city of
Philadelphia. I got to note that. But can you talk about in terms of you being able to partner
with school districts? This is a really important historical project or other partnerships you're creating.
Absolutely.
So we are it started actually as we were being featured in library.
So we are now in 13 libraries around the country so far in California, Arizona, Oregon, and Vermont.
And we're also a part of Scribd, which is the biggest digital library of the world.
And we're also in the Library of America.
So we started there.
And then we started having events and talking to other people.
Most recently, we just connected with the Philadelphia School District to have a meeting with the Philadelphia School District to implement it into schools in Philadelphia.
But our overall goal, obviously, is to reach the Department of Education and get it filtered out and put it in all schools. And the beauty of the Melanoid Chronicles is we are highlighting people, all people of the African diaspora all around the
world. So it's not just black America. It's mostly black America, but we're highlighting
everyone from the African diaspora.
So if you're,
I did an interview one time and they were like,
oh, I'm Puerto Rican or I'm Dominican and we don't have anything
like this. And I said, no, you do
because you're also featured.
So that's our next move
is moving into the school system. And we're
already making our moves into the
public and city libraries
in the country.
All right, cool.
Jason.
So my question is kind of a simple one.
Who did the research for this?
And how long did it take to actually complete that research?
Excellent question.
Two years.
It was two years and three researchers to the point where it was an around the clock.
I'll be very honest with you. I underestimated how much work this would be when you're covering 20 years of black history,
history of people of the African diaspora. I'm very honest about that. I underestimated it. So we had four researchers to the point where one of the researchers
texted me one day and said, hey, I've been working on this all weekend. Do you mind if I go and get
some groceries and take a nap? That's how big it was. I said said I don't want to deny you
food and sleep
but it was
two years and I'm pretty
sure we still missed some
people because it was
so extensive and I'll
also be very honest with you we've already
we're already started the research
for the next release of
the next encyclopedia series.
And it's almost equivalent to 20 years. I don't know if it was the pandemic or what, but the
Olympics, but we are doing, people in the African diaspora in the last three years are doing
phenomenal things. So we're already gearing up for that. But the original one definitely took two years
and four researchers.
Thank you.
Randy.
That's what I was going to ask you.
Do you intend on releasing a new volume every year or?
Yeah, it's just like Roland said.
We all grew up with it.
It came out.
This is a series.
That's why it's called the Encyclopedia Series because, no, this needs to happen.
This is what's important about this.
It has to change the trajectory completely.
You know, that's what I was going to say to you.
The timing couldn't be better.
I mean, when you look at what is being done to our schools and how the education is being so limited and really excluding people from the African diaspora, I am just so excited to see what you've done here.
And I really believe that kids will do as we used to do. And I would just read the encyclopedias as if, you know, it was like a real book.
So I'm excited about this.
Thank you.
Yeah, it was very interesting because that's a lot of people actually ask me that question.
They say, OK, is this going to be ongoing? And I'm like, absolutely, because it has to be.
And you're right.
It couldn't come at a perfect time.
I've been reading in the last few years, I've been reading all of the, you know, keeping up with everything that's been going on in the school district.
And they're actually promoting in some states for us to no longer use the word slavery, that they were just uncompensated workers.
You know, that's insane, right? That's why my focus is getting it in the school system.
Because what do we have here? Everybody knows, I'm sorry, I'm a big fan of Marcus Garvey.
And Marcus Garvey said it best, if people who don't know their culture, and we see that play out every day in our society are lost completely lost
if you're only told that you were slaves and that you are present no there was so much more but
again we're going to spend the rest of our lives finding out all the stuff from the past but these
kids now they can have something and say okay since i born, I have a niece who's 16 years old.
She was my inspiration for it.
She loves science and technology.
I want her to see the first people that look like her who are inside.
That's why we did something different with the Melanocronicals.
You know, we all know our psychopedia series is alphabetical.
We decided to do it through category.
So if you look at it as science, technology,
sports and entertainment,
government, politics,
we wanted to do it in categories
because I knew that my niece
would immediately go to the science
and technology category
and see all the people that look like her
who are doing these amazing things since she was
born. She was born in 2006. Fantastic. So I'm really excited about it and I want to push it
through as much as possible, but you're right. We have to get it in the education systems
immediately because they are trying to change the rules where they're completely trying to abolish
our history because they can't face it because it's too dark for them, what they did.
Well, you made a point about understanding Marcus Garvey.
This network is called Black Star Network, which is actually known after the Black Star Cruise Line,
that Marcus Garvey, his goal was to connect Africans to the people of Africa, to
send to the African diaspora. Of course, our
goals do the exact same thing with media.
So we certainly here understand
and appreciate who Marcus Garvey
is. We appreciate
it. Tell people where they can actually find
your encyclopedia.
Absolutely. So if
you can get it in hard copy and
e-book. So if, and you can get it in hard copy and ebook. So the website, uh, you, you can go to
our Facebook, our Instagram, it all has our website and our YouTube. And then at the bottom,
you can go to amgroupllc.biz slash Melanoid Chronicles. And you'll, you can read more about
the Melanoid Chronicles. We are currently being featured on 43 Comcast networks, which includes NBC, the OWN Network, Discovery Channel, et cetera, et cetera, which you would see on the website.
And you can read more about us, and you can purchase either a hard copy or an e-book.
And the e-book is available through Barnes & Noble.
It's also available through Scribd, the digital library I talked about.
Amazon, Audible, so you'll see the whole list of where we're available.
And then if you just want a hard copy, you can get a hard copy.
All right.
Zarina, we sure appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
Thank you, everyone.
Have a good one.
Larry, thank you, everyone. Have a good one. Larry,
thank you very much. Larry, Randy, and Jason, I certainly appreciate you joining us on today's
panel. Thanks a bunch. Folks, I am here
in New York. I did the Breakfast Club today.
It will air tomorrow. Also
be doing Ebro in the Mornings. Also
sitting now with Vlad TV. Also
been taking some meetings with an ad agency. He's met with
Group M today. Thanks a lot, Daryl. Take care.
Publicist tomorrow. Waiting for the folks Take care. The publicist is tomorrow.
Waiting for the folks with OMD to schedule us as well.
So we're out here fighting a good fight, trying to get these ad dollars.
And so that's the work that we're doing.
I will see you guys tomorrow right here.
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