#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Mixed Diddy Verdict, Big Beautiful Bill Chaos, Frost Smacks GOP & CBC vs Big Ugly Bill

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

7.2.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Mixed Diddy Verdict, Big Beautiful Bill Chaos, Frost Smacks GOP & CBC vs Big Ugly Bill A New York federal jury has acquitted Sean "Diddy" Combs of the most seriou...s charges but convicted him on two of the five counts. We'll speak with legal analyst Candace Kelly and journalist Jasmine Simpkins, who have been covering the trial. House Republicans are racing to pass the "Big Beautiful Bill" before the public can fully react, applying intense pressure on their members ahead of the July 4th holiday. We hope to have Congresswomen Shontel Brown and Maxine Waters on tonight, if House Floor votes do not hold them up. During a nearly 12-hour House Rules Committee hearing Tuesday night, Florida Congressman Maxwell Frost hit a nerve with Republicans -- we'll show you what went down. We'll talk to a North Carolina woman who says a wrongful arrest left her jobless and homeless.  The Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down the state's 176-year-old abortion ban. Paramount has settled a multi-million dollar lawsuit with Trump over CBS's 60 Minutes interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris. And on tonight's Tech Talk, we'll speak to the man behind a visionary initiative that is transforming how students connect with career opportunities in STEM. 7.1.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Senate Passes Trump’s Mega Spending Plan: Medicaid Cuts, Deportations & Wealthy Tax Breaks The Senate has passed Trump's sweeping tax and spending plan, and the stakes couldn't be higher. We're facing significant cuts to Medicaid and food assistance, massive increases in military spending, and billions more allocated for mass deportations and the border wall. At the same time, the wealthiest Americans benefit from new tax breaks. House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Ohio Congresswoman Shontel Brown will be joining us to discuss the bill, the next steps in the fight to protect working families, political strategy, and the way forward. Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott will provide insight into what these cuts could mean for local governments. DNC Chair Ken Martin will share his thoughts on the bill and outline his plans to rebuild the Democratic Party. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:37 decision in New York City. Federal trial was Sean Niddy Combs acquitted on three of the charges and found guilty on two lesser charges. Also the judge just denied him bail. We'll talk to legal analyst Candace Kelly, journalist Jasmine Simpkins, both who've been covering the trial for the duration. House Republicans are desperately trying to corral their members to pass the so-called big beautiful bill of Donald Trump. The opponents call it the big ugly disastrous bill. They've been holding the vote open for three hours. In less than an hour, the Congressional Black Caucus will be holding an emergency rally
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Starting point is 00:04:27 Martin. Folks, you're in the New York City Federal Trial. the the the the the the the the the Also on count five, it engaged in prostitution with former girlfriend Jane. That was the pseudonym in which she testified in court, but the more serious charges.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Count one, recartiering conspiracy, not guilty. Count three. First of all, that account that was count one. Count four that dealt with sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion. Oh, former girlfriend Jane again, not guilty on that particular charge. Again, five total charges.
Starting point is 00:05:08 He was found not guilty on three of those. Most important one was the Rico one, that was count one. Again, guilty. First of all, you take count two, not guilty. That dealt with sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion of Cassandra Ventura. Again, just two of those charges. Now did his lawyer wanted him to be released? They want to work out some kind of arrangement after the verdicts
Starting point is 00:05:32 were read, he turned to his family and said, I'm coming home. Well, no, he's not. The judge ruled he is not going to be released. His citizen is set for October 3rd. Candace Kelly, legal analyst, was following the trial was in the courtroom. Jasmine Sipkins, the trial, was in the courtroom. Jasmine Sipkins, journalist, was also in the courtroom. They both join us right now. Candace, walk us through what happened today. This jury was, they reached a decision
Starting point is 00:05:55 on four of the five yesterday. They were deadlocked on one, came back this morning, didn't take them long to come to the conclusion. Let's knock out this count one. And then it was around 10 a.m., we had the decision. Yeah, Roland, listen, they were in there for about an hour. And that's what happens when you go home and you sleep on something.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I think that was the goal. Maybe they went home, said, everybody sleep on it. Let's come back, let's reconvene, let's see where we stand. And they stood on this final verdict, which was, as you said, no sex trafficking, no RICO, but the two counts of prostitution stuff. So, and this is what happens when you get 12 people into a room from different backgrounds,
Starting point is 00:06:37 try to get a decision made. It turned out this way a little earlier than I think a lot of us would have ever imagined, especially since they went home last night. But that verdict is out and certainly this is something that the defense sees as a win. We haven't gone to sentencing yet. And that's when we will really know depending upon how much jail time he gets rolling.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Give us a sense of demeanor. We understand that prior to, uh, the jury coming back with the verdict today, uh, Sean Combs asked the U S marshals, he could pray with his family. They allowed that to happen. So walk us through what just paint the picture for us because no cameras were allowed in the federal courtroom. So listen, there have been a couple of times this week where there have been prayers, circle prayers. He gets to spend quite a bit of time with his family inside the courtroom when everything is wrapped up. But today was really something when that verdict came
Starting point is 00:07:29 from what I understand because I was outside and sometimes in the overflow room. When that came, he got down on his knees and he prayed. As the not guilty's came, he was pumping that fist in the air until the guilty's came. And then he was really had a just sunken shoulders and was very surprised about this. But he believed that this was a win.
Starting point is 00:07:51 He kissed Tinny Garagos on her cheek. Everybody came around and was rallying around him and saying we won, dream team, dream team, we're a dream team. So there was a lot of excitement in the air. When Janice Combs came out, when I was standing outside, people clapped, people were cheering, people were, as you probably have heard,
Starting point is 00:08:11 had body oil and baby oil that they were spraying in the air. There were, you know, more free puffy t-shirts. People were dressed to the nines and the tens. And this was a big deal. Sean Combs' music was being played. And for those people who were there, whether they were bloggers or were they reporters
Starting point is 00:08:28 and just caught up in the scene, it was quite a scene to be caught up in for a very long time. Now they all thought that of course, hey, if he was not going to have to stay in jail, that he would walk out. I don't know why people were waiting for this shot. That's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:08:43 He'd still have to go check out of the detention center. But the bottom line, as you said, is that he didn't get bail anyway. So all he's going to do is going to be waiting until October 3rd, when the sentencing will be happening. Jasmine, we saw that artistic rendering, if we could pull it up again, of Diddy on his knees, pounding the chair.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Take us through that, from your vantage point, what you saw, describe for us what it was like, the jury, the prosecutors, the judge, Diddy, his family, witnesses. My time in the courtroom and obviously also in the overflow room, we've gotten a chance to see his demeanor be up and down. Some days,
Starting point is 00:09:25 he looks a little lethargic, like he was definitely got a little trial fatigue, as I've been calling it. Other days, he's a little bit more jovial, laughing, talking to his family. It wasn't shocking, though, especially hearing some of his family members, members of his PR team talk about how he's been very much reading his Bible, reading books about manifestation. So for him to get down on his knees, we know he's been a man, you know, talked about his faith over the years. So that wasn't shocking. And it also isn't shocking to see defendants have a reaction, right? Like this, when a verdict just called, be it guilty or not in the courtroom. So I don't think anyone was shocked. His family obviously was still very excited and happy
Starting point is 00:10:06 and hoping that the judge would grant him bail, but that did not happen today. But I think he still feels like this is a win. His team feels like this is the win. And they're hoping for the least amount of time when sentencing is handed over on October 3rd. This of course was up and down. I've seen a number of legal analysts rip this prosecution team and simply say, Candace, that their evidence was absolutely weak
Starting point is 00:10:33 when it came to the RICO charge. Well listen, the RICO charge is something that if you're going to be seeing in a jury, you are going to have to really become like a mini law student. There were eight underlying charges that they had to understand of which they had to get two over a period of 10 years in order to get to the RICO. I think what's very, very interesting is that there were two predicate charges that were reached. That was the sex trafficking.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'm not sex trafficking, the prostitution, right? We have those two. I do not think that they really believed in this idea of RICO. There's a real relatability issue and people thinking that this is an overcharge and why are we going to step into someone's bedroom and decide somebody's private relationship
Starting point is 00:11:13 as they said in the closing arguments, that this was just a modern day love story. And on the prosecution side, yes, many people have said that this was an overcharge. Why Rico? You are telling me that this particular enterprise, as you called it, only existed for the purposes of Sean Cohn to carry out these particular acts. Well, when you look at his business,
Starting point is 00:11:34 that was a one point worth $1 billion, that's really, really difficult for a lot of people to try to believe and take in. So I think that there were a couple of things that really spoke loudly. And again, one that was the recall and the relatability. The other thing is you just have the digital footprint. You had so many texts that made it really hard to discern.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Was this just two lovers that were considered, that's how they ran their relationship. They were always mad at each other and then making up and then mad at each other and then becoming one as the defense said that one in all their decision couple that that's how th their their journey as a
Starting point is 00:12:15 are a lot of things for t And at the end of the day believe the witnesses bec they had they believe the witnesses because had they had they believed them, they definitely would have gotten the Rico. They did not. Jasmine, first of all, the scene outside flat out circus. It's been that way though. I would say, I mean, definitely there were days that were, there was less hubbub outside of the courthouse,
Starting point is 00:12:42 but this was par for the course. Listen, from the moment this whole, the indictment was handed down, words like freak off, 900 bottles of baby oil. It was very sensational, right? And so I wouldn't have expected less from what we saw over these seven to 10 weeks. And to see fans outside chanting, he still has a lot of people who believe he should be free. Also, there's a lot of people who believe he should be free.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Also, there's a lot of people who believe he should be incarcerated. But to see the fans outside, to hear that people are playing music, the Freak-O-Not-Rico t-shirts, the baby oil, to me, it falls in line with the sensationalism that we've seen in this trial since the very beginning. Attorneys, Matt Manning,
Starting point is 00:13:23 civil rights attorney out of Cooper's Christie, TX also a Scott Bolden attorney out of Washington DC. Scott, I want to go to you first. The point that Candace there made look they had to make the connection and then when they had the testimony, those text messages of both women talking about these freak offs or these sexual escapades, it made their case real difficult to say it was coercion. Well the witnesses also had real credibility issues. I mean some of the witnesses had been abused and went back for more.
Starting point is 00:13:58 They voluntarily played in these freak offs and so they lack credibility. Remember these are all adults. These adults who are participating in this, they really convicted Sean Puffy Combs of being a sexual deviant and having a wild sex life, but they didn't convict him of a crime because it wasn't sexual trafficking, it wasn't Rico because he's got a music business.
Starting point is 00:14:22 He didn't need these freak-offs in order to run his music business. And it was hard. You gotta also remember, today is July 2nd. The holiday is coming up. They didn't deliberate that long, quite frankly. And so this is a real win for Sean Puffy. Because remember one other thing too.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Your parents will remember the Man Act because it covered pimps and prostitutes and then black men who were involved with white women coming across the line in the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s. They use this man act, but he's never been convicted of a crime. Why wouldn't they let him go home on a monitor or with bail? That makes no sense. He's only got two charges, felony charges that will serve him.
Starting point is 00:15:02 He can get zero to 15 years. I lost Scott signal. Matt, your assessment of this jury's verdict in the prosecutions on their their of course, their failure, some say to convict him on the most serious charges that could have gotten him life in prison. Yeah, I think the last time you and I talked about this, I told you that this is where I thought the jury might really struggle. And I don't know, obviously, I didn't get a chance to watch the evidence and I don't know what the jury said if they were, you know, asked about their decision after the trial. However, I always thought that the difficulty with this case for the prosecution was
Starting point is 00:15:43 it was too nebulous in terms of the RICO. They charged it like it was to quote, you know, encourage his prestige and his power. But the reason I think that's difficult is because they had to relate it back to the Combs Enterprise and the furtherance of the goals of the Combs Enterprise. And I just never thought they were gonna be able
Starting point is 00:16:01 to get there clearly. And I thought the jury might stick on that. I don't know if that's the reason they initially hung up on the Rico charge, but the not-guilties on the three that he got doesn't surprise me with in terms of how they presented the evidence, and also in terms of exactly what Scott was speaking to. I mean, you not only have people who were potentially,
Starting point is 00:16:20 consensually involved, but you have people who were involved and then left and then came back and left again. And I think that when you're looking at it from a doubt perspective, the jurors really had to grapple with, is this really in furtherance of some conspiracy or is this somebody who's just in Mr. Combs' orbit, who's gonna be staying in his orbit?
Starting point is 00:16:39 And I think that's what it was. It was a question probably of whether it was really consensual, whether it was really coercive, and whether people were around him for some other reason than to extend this conspiracy. So I'm not surprised on the Rico charge. And a lot of times what juries do is they try to find some compromise.
Starting point is 00:16:56 So there could have been some jurors in that jury room who said, we can't let him go free on everything, so let's convict him of these two transporting for prosecution acts and go with it from there. And jurors are not supposed to do that, but jury deliberations are secretive. And I think that very often happens. People feel like they don't want to let someone go on everything. And maybe they thought the evidence on those was strong, but clearly they didn't think it was on the other charges. And I'm not surprised by the outcome, particularly with the Rico charge. I'm gonna bring in Rebecca Carruthers as well, but I'm gonna go to Jasmine, Candace, and
Starting point is 00:17:33 then Rebecca. I have seen lots of women, especially black women, Jasmine, say, look, this is a prime example of women getting screwed, women being abused, men treating them like ragdolls. Ragdolls, and so it's been a lot of this that I've seen since this verdict came down this morning. Jasmine, you first. Yeah, I said this too during another conversation that I think that the Me Too movement in 2017
Starting point is 00:18:01 really created this domino effect where you saw that a lot of women, especially women who've had positions or worked in the music industry have come forward. And I don't think this will be the last time that we see something of this magnitude happen, perhaps of a man of Sean's stature. Because the reality is, is that there is a dark underbelly in Hollywood. And we're just now starting to get this reckoning, right? Where people are starting to talk about the things
Starting point is 00:18:27 that they've experienced and what's been happening behind, closed doors, these casting couches and things of that nature. And so I think that Cassie Ventura, I think her ability to speak up, her pressing charges, even if it was just a civil charge, I think will motivate other women to speak up about some of the things
Starting point is 00:18:49 that they've been experiencing behind closed doors. Candace, saying to you, one of the things that we talked about, that in many ways, this was a domestic violence trial, but that wasn't actually, that wasn't one of the charges. No, they didn't charge him with that. Candace? Right, it wasn't one of the charges. No, they didn't charge him with that. Candace? Right. It wasn't one of the charges and the statute of limitations had run and it was a state issue. So yes, that is that. But the reason they brought it up is because on that particular day,
Starting point is 00:19:17 they say that when Cassie was being dragged back to that room, there was a freak off that was going off in that room. And there were other people that corroborated her testimony to say that, yes, there was a male in there. They were in the middle of a freak off. She was trying to get away, and that's where their coercion would come in. And so that's why when a lot of people talk about that assault video and say, Well, why was it even in there? That's why, because the prosecution did a very good job of connecting the dots. But I will say this too, in their closing the defense, they showed that exact same video after the dragging
Starting point is 00:19:49 and showed Cassie in a very calm state talking. And they said, that's the part that you need to look at. Does she look scared? So you can go back and forth and make your case. That's what good attorneys do. There are a lot of good attorneys here. But when we think about that domestic violence issue, that's why the prosecution brought it in.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And like I said, did a very good job. Rebecca? You know, I'm struggling with this a bit, especially with some of the rhetoric that I've seen online, the rhetoric that I've heard from associates. Quite frankly, it seems like many in our community don't understand sexual violence and don't understand what monsters look like. And in my opinion, Sean Combs is a monster. My question specifically is about the forensic psychologist, Dr. Don Hughes.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Do you all think that she was brought in too early and maybe she should have been like a summary witness and maybe been like maybe the penultimate witness before the state closed. Candace, do you want to take that one or you want me? I think they put on 34 witnesses. They started off strong. In my personal opinion, I think it started to fizzle after a while. You could even see the jurors were bored. I mean, at some points they were yawning,
Starting point is 00:21:06 or they had their hand down, or their head down. Sean himself had his head down. I mean, these were long days of long testimonies. I don't know if juxtaposing her at a different point would have helped. I just don't think they were buying this idea, as you guys have said, of the RICO. Just I don't think they were able to connect, as you guys have said, of the Rico.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I don't think they were able to connect those dots. It is very difficult, and there's a lot of gray area when it came to his relationships with these women. Jane, in my opinion, was a horrible witness to put on. She did not come off as compassionate as Cassie did, not to mention there were so many inconsistencies in the things that she said. And at the end of it, it sounded like she was more motivated
Starting point is 00:21:44 by money than anything else. And I think that was very damaging for the prosecution, having her on the stand. So I don't necessarily know that having her come in earlier would have helped any, as it pertained to getting the Rico charge. Can I jump in for a moment and just say that? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Hold on Scott, hold on Scott, hold on Scott, Candace go ahead. Listen, listen, there was a real strategy issue in terms of the clock that the prosecution had to think about because Cassie was pregnant. So she had to go first, right? And because of that, they had to put Don Hughes next to her or some, well then two or three witness of her so that they would remember and connect the dots
Starting point is 00:22:23 that here's the domestic violence victim. Here's the person who stayed, even though she sent these loving texts and was also assaulted and said she was raped. Here's someone who now is going to explain that. And because she was early, Cassie, they had to put Dawn early. So I see your point. And that over seven weeks, you can forget a lot of that details. What I didn't see as much of as that I would have liked
Starting point is 00:22:45 in the closing for the prosecution is making that point that the reason why you're seeing somebody, these women who look absolutely confused, I love them, I don't love them, I was raped, I wasn't raped. I, you know, let's make love, I love you. I mean, it was so many text messages that you just wondered they should have given more credence and put more of Dawn Hughes in that closing statement
Starting point is 00:23:09 in order to drive the point home if they wanted to make sure that in that deliberation room, they remembered, ah, this is how a victim who is in a position where she is lower in the power chain actually acts. Scott. Yeah, yeah, real quick, as a former 6 crimes prosecutor from
Starting point is 00:23:27 New York having tried several of these cases these cases are tough you've got a sophisticated jury from New York. I'm not saying it's right, but the credibility of the women who are abused and who are taking advantage of the problem with them have a prior relationship is because prior relationships on perfect love and sex relationships on The problem with them having a prior relationship is because prior relationships are imperfect. Love and sex relationships aren't perfect, and New Yorkers, as a sophisticated jury, they have their view of the world.
Starting point is 00:23:54 These cases aren't going to be perfect as if you're trying them in Kansas, and yet and still, many of these victims will walk away from even going forward with the prosecution. So I applaud these women who went forward. But the evidence and the taxes and the lack of credibility, it's just hard to get a conviction even though they're telling the truth. And they're all telling the truth. It's just that the standard of proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt in the face of their cross-examination and lack of credibility,
Starting point is 00:24:26 it makes it really, really tough to get a conviction. Either the standards got to change or the evidence has got to change. When women who are abused say, I'm going to go forward, it may be too late to get a conviction. Final comment from Jasmine, final comment from Candace. Jasmine, final comment from Candace. Jasmine, you first. You know, I think that my biggest takeaway from all this is that we don't know what victims of domestic violence look like, looks like.
Starting point is 00:24:53 We don't always know what people are going through. I've interviewed Cassie several times over the years, specifically two days after she was assaulted by Diddy in that hallway at the Intercontinental Hotel. And to see how she had on a brave face, glistening with bronzer that they had covered all of her bruises up, a black eye, that she had faced such a horrific evening with this man and still walked the red carpet,
Starting point is 00:25:18 talked with such enthusiasm about her film, was hand in hand with him, was a reminder to me that we always don't know what people are going through, but to be compassionate. And also a reminder, as I've said earlier, that we don't really know what's going on behind closed doors and we can idolize somebody for being a billionaire and for making all these hit records,
Starting point is 00:25:39 but we have to remember that they are human, they've got flaws. And this fall from grace, I hope, shows people that there's a lot that we still don't know about the entertainment industry. And I think a lot more that's gonna come out very soon. Candace. Well, listen, October 3rd will be the day
Starting point is 00:25:56 his attorneys have even proposed about 21 to 27 months based upon the federal sentencing guidelines. We will see, and that's really when we will see what this means. He's going to get 10 months for time served. He may not even be there for that long. What people have been talking about in terms of this being like a hip hop reckoning
Starting point is 00:26:14 and he's the first person to actually go down. You know, people move the culture and the culture move the people. We are now in not a post-MeToo movement culture, but we are definitely in a different time than when Harvey Weinstein in 2020 was brought up on charges. So we just have to think about how we actually are paying attention to the news,
Starting point is 00:26:33 how much we are investing and how much we understand what we are seeing on TV and writing about it and what's in our algorithm. It is very important for us to understand and make sure that we go to court and that we pay attention. And I'm just at least glad that this particular case has brought attention enough to it so that people are understanding that, listen, Rico is out there.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And if he had been convicted, in my opinion, that would have been a terrible precedent because there are a lot of people who have talked to me about, well, oh my goodness, could that have been me? I did these little things and I think that would might have added up to Rico. You bet your life it probably would have added up to Rico. This would have been a terrible precedent. I am not surprised at the outcome of this. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
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Starting point is 00:30:04 for the past several weeks. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you, guys. All right. Thanks, Roland. We'll go to our panel. Final topic from each one of you on this particular topic before we go to a break and start talking
Starting point is 00:30:14 about the big, ugly, disastrous bill. I'll start with you, Bat. You know, I'll say two things can be true. At the same time, we should support survivors. We should support people coming forward with, you know, their lived experiences. But also, our system has to function this way. It's an imperfect system. But when you require unanimity, 12 people in the box have to see if the evidence gets
Starting point is 00:30:36 you there to a conviction. Like Scott, I'm a former prosecutor. I've prosecuted these cases and defended them. And this is how the system works. Somebody said in the 12 people said in the box, they heard the evidence and they determined that the charges weren't met. And that is a separate conversation
Starting point is 00:30:51 from the very important conversation about supporting victims and supporting survivors. However, two things can be true at once. And I think that's what people need to take away from this because the opposite of that is disastrous for particularly us as black people in the country, meaning if you can get accused and convicted on innuendo or supposition or the idea that we're just going to blindly believe complaining witnesses, then we devolve
Starting point is 00:31:15 into a state where somebody can make an accusation against you and your liberty is taken away purely on accusation and that is not how it works. The unanimity of a jury system is a very important check to power and in this instance it looks like it worked properly. Scott, is what they say guilty beyond all reasonable doubt? That's right. I think, I agree with all my colleagues, I do think this is a real message to the government. The government is constantly trying to expand the reach of RICO in other jurisdictions, I'm sorry, in other industries, not just the mafioso. And they've tried to do it with mixed success. And I really think this is a message to them that they need to think long and hard and
Starting point is 00:32:01 twice if they're going to bring this type of case in this type of kind of sexual circumstance because it's tough because it's a prior relationship. I would urge, I support victims of domestic violence. I prosecuted those cases and I would just urge those who have been abused to come forward sooner than later because sometimes when it's later, there's too much evidence and lacking credibility that makes a case like this allows the prosecutors to get a conviction.
Starting point is 00:32:34 These are just facts until either the laws change or the criminal elements change, and then I change it anytime soon, Roland. Rebecca. So I agree with Scott in part. I was in law school 20 years ago, and the way RICO was defined then and the way it was carried out then
Starting point is 00:32:52 is definitely different than the way it's carried out now, especially as we see different RICO charges against hip hop and rap artists, especially seeing it moving across the South. It's different. But focusing on domestic violence, I believe that the domestic violence statute of limitations ran out here, which is why there wasn't a domestic violence charge.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But we also know, I think it's up to one out of three men are victims of sexual violence. And I think it's almost one out of two, if I remember those numbers correctly, of women are victims of sexual violence and I think it's almost one out of two, if I remember those numbers correctly, of women are victims of sexual violence. So at some point in this country, look, this is not legal advice that I'm giving, but we also have 2A as well.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And so unfortunately, when we see that the criminal legal system doesn't provide the justice for victims of sexual abuse, sexual assault, then that causes people to look at other avenues of looking at justice. So once again, this is not legal advice. I'm not encouraging people to do or not to do whatever, but I also understand why there are some family and some folks who decide to protect their own. Going to go to a quick break.
Starting point is 00:34:06 We come back, we'll talk with Congresswoman Chantelle Brown of Ohio about Republicans twisting as many arms as possible as we speak in order to pass the Senate version of what they call the big, ugly, big, big, beautiful bill, but where Democrats are calling it the big, ugly, disastrous bill. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. ugly big beautiful bill but where Democrats are calling it the big ugly disastrous bill you watching role of Martin unfiltered on the black star network. We need to put people in cages in order for other people to have jobs. Like, that is not how our economy should be built.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Only on the other side of change on the Black Star Network. All right, you're 58 years old. It's over. And you are now watching... Roland Martin unfiltered. Uncut, unplugged, and undamn believable. Folks, we showed about eight to 10 hours of House Rules Committee hearing yesterday, even after our show was over, where they were, many Democrats, including many CBC members, were testifying, talking about how awful this bill that was passed in they were many Democrats, including many CBC members, were testifying, talking about how awful this bill that was passed in the United States Senate will be when it comes to Medicaid cuts, SNAP cuts, and a number of different things as well. One of the folks who spoke is Congresswoman Chantelle Brown of Ohio, who joins us right
Starting point is 00:35:38 now. Congresswoman, glad to have you back on the show. Look, they took, they've taken a vote, they held it now open for what, three, four hours? They're trying to twist as many arms as possible. You've got 10 to 12, my understanding, 10 to 12 Republicans who are holdouts because they actually think the Senate bill didn't go far enough.
Starting point is 00:35:56 So you got these hardcore conservatives. They wanna cut more. Now Donald Trump, he's been making calls. And one of the things that I see this one report, where they're saying that he doesn't even know what the hell is in the bill. He literally apparently according to this report, he told the Republicans,
Starting point is 00:36:12 if you want to make sure you get reelected, don't touch Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security. And one of the members said, but this bill does touch Medicaid. He doesn't even know what the hell this bill does. Well, when you have a bill that's over 900 pages that has been pushed through overnight and expected to go through the regular order is what we would refer to it, and it has not done that, then there are going to be things that people do not know.
Starting point is 00:36:39 We know the last time that the Republicans voted on a bill, they later admitted that there were provisions and things in the bill that they had not read, because it is not that easy to walk away from a 940-page piece of legislation in legalese, if you will, not in everyday layman terms, to be able to understand the ramifications and consequences that will inevitably happen to the people that they are clearly targeting in a very clever and sophisticated way. The problem is if this bill passes, Roland, it will be the biggest cut, the biggest cut in our nation's history to healthcare programs and the SNAP program, food assistance. So we're talking about a trillion dollars taking away from Medicare, Medicaid, and subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And what that means essentially, you may not be on Medicare, you may not be on Medicaid, you may not be on SNAP, but what is going to happen as it relates to your healthcare? It's going to mean that those people who no longer have insurance are going to not get the healthcare that they need. They're only going to go when they need to go to the emergency room. That cost is going to be passed on to all of us. Rural hospitals are going to close. So this means that it's going to be less quality care, longer waits, and it's going to cost us more money.
Starting point is 00:38:07 The poor will get poor, the sick will get sicker, and undoubtedly, the bottom line is we're going to create more debt, not just for the people, but for the country as a whole. What's interesting is that so many Republicans, they love talking about deficit, deficit, deficit. I saw these polls from that nutcase from South Carolina, Nancy Mays, going on and on about the deficit. Then she's like, let's pass this big, beautiful bill right now. They have selective amnesia.
Starting point is 00:38:40 They campaigned on these promises that they were going to lower costs, that they were going to reduce the debt, that they were going to, you know, reduce the deficit. And they have not done that. They have done everything quite the opposite of that. When you think about inflation, when you think about Trump's self-imposed tariff war, when you think about these cuts that are going to really take 17 million, and that's from a nonpartisan score that has been given to this bill that's saying 17 million people will be kicked off of their healthcare. 17 million people. And that's just, I mean, that's going to have an economic
Starting point is 00:39:21 impact. Not only are we just talking about the fact that again people are going to have longer wait times, hospitals are going to close, inevitably people will die because of this. Because they just won't have access to the health care that they need and Republicans just seem like they don't care. All because they want to give more tax breaks to the wealthiest among us. We're talking about upwards of a quarter, a quarter million dollars for people in the 0.1%, not 1%, the 0.1% will get tax breaks up to that.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yet you wanna take the $6 a day away from folks on receiving SNAP benefits. The math just doesn't math. The math is wrong. The morals are wrong. This is unfathomable. Then they want to also introduce and institute an unfunded mandate for states to pick up the bill for some of these programs like SNAP.
Starting point is 00:40:22 They just don't have it in their budget. I came from local government, Roland, they just don't have it in their budget. I came from a local government role and so I know how difficult it is. So what they're going to be doing is forcing states to make choices between healthcare, education, public safety, all of these things because they want to give tax breaks to billionaires. I'm sure a lot of those folks in Ohio
Starting point is 00:40:45 who were yelling MAGA, MAGA, MAGA, Trump, Trump, Trump are going to be shedding orange tears if this bill passes. You said it better than I could, Rowley. I think a lot of people are going to be devastated. You know, and this is for us, for some of us, I'll speak for some of us, we saw this coming, right? We warned people that this would be the ultimate plan. I mean, the man campaigned on some of these things,
Starting point is 00:41:09 but I think that people thought that they would be exempt. This is something that he was attempting to do back in 2016, was destroying our healthcare system. And this is, one of the things I can credit the Republicans about is being relentless in their pursuit to get things done. And so they've been at this for a long time. And if this bill passes, they will have successfully been able to eliminate health care for, again, 17 million people.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And as a result, hospitals will close because a lot of these medical institutions depend on these programs to help operate their facilities. So they will close. And what will end up happening is everyone will have to pay the cost for this. And so don't think just because you're not a recipient of these programs that it is not going to have an impact on you Um as somebody said wait five minutes it will
Starting point is 00:42:09 All right, then uh 17 minutes congressional black caucus is holding an emergency rally on the u.s capital ground So I know you have to prepare for that congresswoman chantelle brown. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you Rebecca I want to go to you. Uh, listen people are saying look They think they like none of this stuff matters. They're going to pass. They're going to pass. They're going to pass it. But what this is also about is forcing every single one of these Republicans, especially
Starting point is 00:42:33 35 Republicans who are Democrats are targeting in 2026 to cast a vote because whatever vote they decide to cast, they're going to be campaigning on that and the opposition will be targeting them as well. It's clear based upon the numbers that the overwhelming majority of Americans do not like the things that will be cut if this big ugly bill is passed. One thing about the Democratic Party is, it's one thing to say and talk and hold these rallies,
Starting point is 00:43:03 but they need to be prepared to spend millions of dollars immediately in accountability ads in those three dozen districts that you just referenced. Reminding folks of, hey, your member of Congress just voted yes on this particular bill and in the background list every single hospital, over 300 hospitals in rural communities that will be probably shuttered by the fall if this bill was the past but list everything in that particular district negative that's going to happen as a result of that bill under saying that 80% of the country is going to have to pay higher taxes because of this bill so those are the things that if the Democratic Party is going to do a fight, then they need
Starting point is 00:43:47 to do the fight for real and they better be prepared to spend money behind this fight if they want anything to change at the ballot box next year. Scott, go ahead. Yeah. I agree with my colleagues. I want the Democrats to fight, to match the political gangsterism of the Republicans. Given the independents and conservative Dems and even the working poor in rural America, they are so committed to Trump that we've got to package our criticism and package their fighting in a way that they understand it,
Starting point is 00:44:34 simplify it, and hang it around the Republicans' neck like a weight. We are not good at doing that. We love attacking Donald Trump, but America knows Donald Trump, and they still voted for him, at least arguably the majority of Americans, well, more than our candidate. But they've got to package it and message it in a way that is simple, direct, and hard-hitting, and convinces the average American that it's worth taking another look at the Dems. And then the Dems have to have not just their messaging, but their organization together and give them a reason why, not just because of this big ugly bill, but there's a reason
Starting point is 00:45:16 why to give the Democrats another shot, because we're worth for the working poor, we're worth the working man, and we're just better leaders at this stuff as opposed to just having a cult-like personality. I'm not sure what the ultimate product is, but that's the goal of this product if we're gonna get some power back in 2026 and ultimately in 2028. I'm gonna carry the baton from my two fellow panelists and say, you know, in terms of that
Starting point is 00:45:47 messaging, I think the Democrats need to be very, very, very strong on putting this into human terms in terms of however they can quantify it, showing what these losses are going to look like on the ground, not only that hospitals will be shuttered, but what that looks like for your average Medicare recipient, what they're going to have to forego in terms of pharmaceuticals or their procedures or whatever they need, so that you can put that into human terms. And to give you kind of an analog to that, I was interested in what percentage of the population that's going to lose Medicare coverage is covered in Alaska. Alaska has only 740,000 people. So if every single one
Starting point is 00:46:25 of those people was on Medicare, that would be 4% of the people that are going to be lost, you know, who are going to lose their Medicare coverage. And if you think about it, Lisa Murkowski and her spinelessness and the 740,000 people that she represents, right, are now sending to the House a bill that's going to take potentially coverage from 17 million people. If you put it in a numerical context and you put it in a context like that, then it makes it easier for people to understand the enormity of the loss and also the enormity of the cruelty. And that's what this comes down to.
Starting point is 00:46:55 It comes down to people who need healthcare, who are going to have that healthcare taken away from them because Trump and the Republicans want to give bigger tax breaks to people who are already rich. I mean, that's an absurd idea, but once you put it down on the ground in the messaging, I think it makes it that much more impactful. And I hope that the Democrats find a way to really run with that from a human interest standpoint so we can see all the big mamas and people who are not going to be able to get what they need and what that human toll is going to be.
Starting point is 00:47:21 All right, folks, I got to go to a break. We come back. We're going to show you what happened last night when Congressman Maxwell Frost really ticked off the Republicans. Also, we'll be live from Capitol Hill for the Correction of Black Caucuses Emergency Rally at the Capitol.
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Starting point is 00:48:13 This week on the other side of change. Mass incarceration, Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and how it is profitable. And there's something really, really perverse about saying that we need to put people in cages in order for other people to have jobs. Like, that is not how our economy should be built. Only on the other side of change on the Black Star Network.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Don Winslow explains how it really works. To end chain migration. Ending chain migration. Chain migration. At the same time Donald Trump was spewing all this hate, he was using a high-powered lawyer and chain migration to bring his wife Melania's mother, father, and sister to the United States where his money bought their citizenship.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Citizenship was just awarded to victims of my canals. Here's how it works. At the same time plagiarizing plastic First Lady Melania Trump was just awarded to victim of my canals. Here's how it works. At the same time plagiarizing plastic first lady Melania Trump had kids pulled from their cages for this staged photo op, her family was living lavishly in the United States under permanent resident status. But that's mainly just for rich white people. If you're Mexican, you don't get to live in a fancy New York apartment while you wait.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Donald Trump makes you wait in a cage. The world's most successful liar couldn't have his future wife be in the United States illegally, so he spent the big bucks to get Melania and Einstein Visa. Don't you think in any way that it's hypocritical that his wife got to stay in the country with an EB-1 Visa, the so-called Einstein Visa? Not at all, Steven.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I know physics. Now, the EB-1 is reserved for immigrants with extraordinary ability. And when you think of extraordinary ability, you don't exactly think of Melania. But Trump didn't care. He just wanted it done. Meet Michael Wilds, the high-powered lawyer who helped secure U.S. citizenship for Melania Trump and her parents, Victor and Amaya Knott, and a green card for her sister, Ines.
Starting point is 00:50:00 See, when Melania became a citizen in 2006, it gave her the right to sponsor her parents and sisters. Hence the name, chain migration. Trump destroyed families and sold a closed border policy to his base while using chain migration to bring in his own family. At the same time that Department of Homeland Security were ripping children from their mother's arms and locking them in cages, Melania's family was walking out of court with a personal security escort of Department of Homeland Security officers.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Note the patches on the uniform Donald Trump has one policy for white people and another for Brown. I met with the Border Patrol agents and They doing a great job. Okay, stop the music There are still thousands of children locked up in Trump's border prisons There are children that have not seen their parents in years. How long can Trump keep them in prison? Do they get out when they're 18? Do they spend their entire childhood in a cage? Do they ever get out?
Starting point is 00:50:53 Do they ever get out? Hi, I'm Dr. Jackie of A Balanced Life. Think about the men in your life and ask yourself these questions. Who are their male role models? Who can they turn to for advice to learn about what manhood is all about? On our next show, we talk about why male mentoring is so important to men of all ages. Actor Dondre Whitefield leads an all-star cast and panel to answer these and many other probing questions. A woman can't teach you how to be
Starting point is 00:51:25 something that she's not. That's on the next A Balanced Life with Dr. Jackie on Black Star Network. Now streaming on the Black Star Network. I had been trying to get a record deal for a long time. You know when I finally got signed to the Motown record label in 2003, I was 34, 35 years old. And up until that time, I had been trying to get record deals the traditional way. You know, you record your demo, you record your music, and you send it to the record labels, or maybe somebody, a friend of a friend knows somebody
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Starting point is 00:58:16 do Thanks for watching! Hey folks, I'm actually here to the U.S. Capitol for the Direction of Black Caucus of their emergency rally. But last night, man, things got real testy in the House Rules Committee when Congressman Max Rolfe Frost said something that I've often said on this show about Republicans saying, y'all really ain't pro-life, watch this. I got involved in politics when I was 15 years old because I didn't want to get shot in my school. It was a Sandy Hook shooting that pushed me into this work. Three years later, a gunman walked into Pulse Nightclub a mile away from where I was working and murdered 49 people and injured another 49. He didn't like them because they were
Starting point is 00:59:30 gay and Latino. Three months after that I survived an instance of gun violence in downtown Orlando in Halloween of 2016. Hundreds of us running away from the gunfire and that's after I had been involved in this work for three, three and a half years. You never think it's going to hit you home and then it hits your home. And then it hits the block you're on. Two years ago, at the scene of 400 violent crimes, silencers were found. I just think it's despicable that the gun industry, the gun lobby, wants to push forth amendments like this that would result in more people dying just so they
Starting point is 01:00:12 can sell more guns. No one on the Democratic side is advocating for anything crazy or radical, we want common-sense gun reform that most Democrats, most Republicans, and most NRA members want. But it just goes to show you that organizations like the NRA don't even represent daily gun owners. They represent daily gun manufacturers and the people who sell the guns. They have no problems with more people dying as long as they can sell more guns.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And if we want to talk about a safe America over the last three years because of the bipartisan safer communities act passed by Democrats signed by Joe Biden and the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention in the last three years gun violence has gone down more than it has in our country's history. Cities of over a million people gun violence has gone down 40%. This year we're on track to have a reduction of 20% from last year. So this, we know that these solutions work while of course respecting the rights of people but also protecting the most sacred right which is the right to live, the ability to walk down our blocks, go to our churches, our synagogues, our schools, our temples everywhere,
Starting point is 01:01:25 and not fear being shot. And this false notion that you got to pick one, you got to either be for the Constitution or, you know, you're okay with people dying, I mean, it's just false. We are for rights, but we're also for making sure that the right to live is preserved. And that's been the fight of my life that's why I came to Congress and that's why I'm
Starting point is 01:01:49 proud to be a Democrat and oppose this horrible bill. Thank you and I think that this theme that we are seeing is you said it a right to life versus their desire for profit. You just described that and in this bill that's what we see over and over again the right to life because you need the health insurance versus the right for profit. You see they say they're pro-life because they want the baby to be born, go to school and get shot in the school. Die in the school, die on the streets. No. That is what they say. I'm not going to say anything, but you've gone over the cliff.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I move to strike his words. I'm not going to go over the cliff. Wait. You've gone over. We were going to be quiet, but you've gone over now. You didn't use any of that. I meant every word. We are going to strike your words, but on the other hand, it might be good to leave your words. Might be good to leave your words, because that's how you feel. But you are not going to come into this room and impugn our integrity.
Starting point is 01:03:13 You will not. We are pro-life people, from conception to natural death, most of us are. And don't you come in here and say, we wanna preserve life so people can get shot. That's what I've seen. Well, the point made there, Rebecca,
Starting point is 01:03:44 is the point that made there, Rebecca, is the one that I made on this show. When I say these people are not pro-life, they're anti-abortion. And the reality is the actions that they take prove it every single day when it comes to their love affair with guns and the Second Amendment. Night, when you made, when you had that conversation and you made that point, especially when talking to that very extreme pro birth person who was in studio that night. Here's the thing about Max Frost.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I met him in 2016 when I was working for MoveOn.org and I hired him as an organizer organizing in the greater Orlando area. I got involved in politics when I was 15 years old because I didn't want to get shot in my school. There was a Sandy Hook shooting that pushed me into this work. Hey guys, we're playing the video. Okay, go ahead. Yep, and then so he talked about in 2015 what led him to get involved in politics. So I met him just after he graduated from high school, when he was turning 18. Here's the thing about Max O'Frost.
Starting point is 01:04:50 He is true to this. It doesn't matter what Virginia Foxx says, whether or not, oh, you're trying to up you and us, you're going after our integrity. He's 100% right. He's arguing against the world worldview that says we want to force you all to birth children, but then we're not going to do anything to make sure there's adequate health coverage, that there's adequate and affordable housing, that there is comprehensive and good and strong education. He's arguing against a worldview that just wants those numbers, and then they're trying
Starting point is 01:05:21 to tie it to Christianity, but they're not doing anything to actually support people from the cradle to the grave. Instead it's this performative politics that we're seeing in that particular worldview saying that okay it's okay for us to do all these things that don't that that are against people having a good life while they're living where they actually flourish. So the thing about Maxwell Frost is the internet's forever. So it doesn't matter whether or not they keep it in the record or they strike it from the record.
Starting point is 01:05:53 He's gonna be in Congress and he's gonna have impact in Congress. And just hearing him talk through his personal story, his lived experience, and how Congress has failed to address the gun violence issue. And once again, what does this have to do with this bill?
Starting point is 01:06:09 Why are those things being snuck into this bill? It clearly shows you that these bills that we're seeing with this particular worldview, it's a moral guide of where those particular people are, because they're not supporting everyday Americans. Well, you're absolutely right. And Scott, I just think that's the kind of energy you need. Call them out on the issue and force them to have a deal with it. No question about it. Where I come from, that scenario that you just played, is called a hit dog will
Starting point is 01:06:47 holler. And Representative Fox start hollering, but the brother, the congressman, was speaking facts. He wasn't throwing bombs. And you know what, Representative Fox, you don't like it, then prove him wrong. Vote for gun control. Vote for the assault rifle ban. Vote to get people off the guns, off the street, whether you think it works a lot or works a little. And you and I, Rola, have talked, and I've said that the conservative right has advocated their responsibility for the killing fields of our young children, black, white, yellow, and brown, and pledged allegiance to the gun lobby
Starting point is 01:07:36 and to the Second Amendment, to the detriment of our children. And we will, they will do nothing about it and they can't defend it. And that exchange or that hearing, right, was just capsulated. What you said, what I've said, and all of us on these programs have said, and the Republicans just ignore it. They pledge loyalty to Trump and to the NRA while the killing fields of our young people.
Starting point is 01:08:04 The number one cause of death now I think for young people under 18 is gun violence. Think about that. That this is a, we call ourselves the greatest country in the world and yet the number one reason our young people are dying, our gun violence, that every day, maybe twice a day, we have mass shootings with weapons of mass destruction. That's shooting two people or more. We don't even report on it anymore. Scott, one second, Matt.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott, I got you, hold on. Scott, hold on, Matt, you're there in Texas and you got people like Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, Governor Greg Abbott, they love touting their pro-life credentials, but they are the biggest gun lovers. They don't support mental health budgets. They always talk about life,
Starting point is 01:09:03 but they wanna cut programs for food, for kids. I mean, you gotta challenge these folks on their hypocrisy. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm glad you mentioned it because state rep James Talarico, put up a clip this morning on Instagram that I saw, and he's a pastor, as you probably know. And he just talked about how if Christ were here,
Starting point is 01:09:22 Christ would be not only mad about the fact that we're not doing charity, but he would be mad about the fact that we have to have systems for charity. And I really thought that that was very impactful because it spoke to the idea that there is a wide gulf between the rhetoric and the reality with conservatives because they wanna act like they're about life,
Starting point is 01:09:39 but then they do things like get rid of SNAP benefits or take away money from people that needed in Medicare. I mean, that's really what is supposed to be a fundamental tenet if you are a Christian believer of how you move to the world. And we see that they are continuing to do things that are in direct opposition to that. And as it relates to Abbott and Patrick, both of them are bootlickers for Mr. Trump, as we know. But Dan Patrick is the worst of all of them because he's not even from Texas and he cosplays as a Texan and he cosplays as a conservative when he's really from Baltimore
Starting point is 01:10:10 and you know is really what a former DJ. So you know we don't take him seriously and even he and Abbott as you know right now are probably not in each other's good graces because Abbott decided to veto that bill that he wanted to pass as it relates to marijuana, but the reality of it is it's all about rhetoric, it's not about the truth, and we see that in their actions, not in their statements. Sorry, Rebecca, this is who these people are. And unfortunately, I just think that Democrats are too often too timid to call them out exactly on their bullshit. You gotta speak truth to power because at the end of the day we're
Starting point is 01:10:53 all watching this and we're seeing people play in our face. So if elected leaders oppose what we perceive as what's being played out in our face, that they need to actually use their words and speak truth to power. One thing that even the Democrats need to consider, instead of saying, oh, well, you have to wait your term to get into leadership, and it's by seniority, you know, people like Maxwell Frost, people like Jasmine Crockett,
Starting point is 01:11:18 those sound like the types of leaders that many Americans are looking for. Those are some of the people who might need to be running some of those committees or being the minority leader on those particular minority chair on those committees. Because they are more reflective and more in touch with what the American public is saying that they are fed up about. So as much as possible, those are the voices that need to be amplified, and not necessarily
Starting point is 01:11:45 people who've been there for 60 years. Absolutely. All right, folks, got to go to a break. We are riding Capitol Hill. We're going to be headed over to the CBC's emergency rally. We're going to go to a break. We'll be right back. back, all in Martin Luther on the Black Star Network. This week on the other side of change. Mass incarceration, Trump administration
Starting point is 01:12:09 is doubling down on criminalization and how it is profitable. And there's something really, really perverse about saying that we need to put people in cages in order for other people to have jobs. Like that is not how our economy should be built. Only on the other side of change on the Black Star Network. That is not how our economy should be built. Only on the other side of change on the Black Star Network.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Don Winslow explains how it really works. To end chain migration. Ending chain migration. Chain migration. Chain migration. Chain migration. At the same time Donald Trump was spewing all this hate, he was using a high-powered lawyer and chain migration
Starting point is 01:12:43 to bring his wife, Melania's mother, father, and sister to the United States where his money bought their citizenship. Citizenship was just awarded to victims of my canals. Here's how it works. At the same time plagiarizing plastic First Lady Melania Trump had kids pulled from their cages for this staged photo op, her family was living lavishly in the United States under permanent resident status. But that's mainly just for rich white people.
Starting point is 01:13:08 If you're Mexican, you don't get to live in a fancy New York apartment while you wait. Donald Trump makes you wait in a cage. The world's most successful liar couldn't have his future wife be in the United States illegally, so he spent the big bucks to get Melania an Einstein Visa. Don't you think in any way that it's hypocritical that his wife got to stay in the country
Starting point is 01:13:25 with an EB-1 visa, the so-called Einstein visa? Not at all, Steven. I know physics. Now, the EB-1 is reserved for immigrants with extraordinary ability. And when you think of extraordinary ability, you don't exactly think of Melania. But Trump didn't care. He just wanted it done. Meet Michael Wilds, the high-powered lawyer
Starting point is 01:13:43 who helped secure U.S US citizenship for Melania Trump and her parents, Victor and Amaya Knott, and a green card for her sister, Ines. See, when Melania became a citizen in 2006, it gave her the right to sponsor her parents and sisters, hence the name, chain migration. Trump destroyed families and sold a closed border policy to his base while using chain migration
Starting point is 01:14:02 to bring in his own family. At the same time the Department of Homeland Security were ripping children from their mother's arms and locking them in cages, Elania's family was walking out of court with a personal security escort of Department of Homeland Security officers. Note the patches on the uniform. Donald Trump has one policy for white people and another for brown. I met with the border patrol agents and they're doing a great job. Okay, stop the music.
Starting point is 01:14:27 There are still thousands of children locked up in Trump's border prisons. There are children that have not seen their parents in years. How long can Trump keep them in prison? Do they get out when they're 18? Do they spend their entire childhood in a cage? Do they ever get out? Do they ever get out?
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Starting point is 01:16:43 Judy Proud on The Proud Family, louder and prouder on Disney Plus, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Hey, folks, what's up? Roland Martin here. So I'm actually approaching the U.S. Capitol. I'll just show you right here where the CBC members are going to be assembling outside of the Capitol because they are again whole focus bringing awareness and attention to what's going on with this bill. Republicans on with this bill. Republicans have been scurrying, trying to get as many of their votes as possible. They have been struggling to do so. So one of the things
Starting point is 01:17:33 that they have done, they've actually kept the vote open for several hours. This is not the first time that's happened. Democrats have done the exact same thing. So what happens is you can actually, there's no time limit to when you can when you can, when you're doing a vote. So you can actually call a vote and then you can actually leave it open for several hours for giving opportunity to negotiate, twist arms, do all those sort of things that we often have seen happen with in politics. And so again, we're head out here, we've got some fresh out here gathered so far, and their whole point is, again, to keep the pressure on. What you've seen over the past 48 hours, you've seen a lot of attention, a lot of pressure being
Starting point is 01:18:28 put on people locally making phone calls to House Republicans, Senate Republicans when it comes to this particular bill. So one of the things that we've talked about is how do you put power into action? You'll see here, you've got members of the media already setting up out here. And listen, it's a Wednesday before the 4th of July weekend. You've got a lot of these members trying to race back, trying to race to get back to town, they had to come back. And one of the things that happened was that you have storms on the East coast.
Starting point is 01:19:08 And so as a result, what you saw happen is that they, some of them had to actually had to hop in the cars and drive here. So that's what's going on here. Rebecca, give us a sense for people who don't understand how things work on Capitol Hill. The frenzy that's taking place inside the U.S. Capitol right now. Sure, so I want to point out it is highly unusual
Starting point is 01:19:31 to hold open votes for hours over hours. It's something that procedurally can happen. However, it's very rare. Usually if it's a bill, just like what Roland just talked about where there's a call to a vote and it wasn't predicted that there was going to be a call to a vote. So normally you hold it to make sure enough people actually get back to Washington to indeed be able to vote.
Starting point is 01:19:58 I will be interested in the parliamentary rules to see what is the time limit on actually be able to hold that vote open. But usually if it's just a regular vote that is scheduled, people are already in town, they're in regular session, usually it's only held for like 15 minutes at that. Sometimes on the Senate side you'll see it maybe held a little bit longer. But normally 15 minutes, maybe 30 minutes as a stretch. But the longer that boat is held open, there's gonna be some doubts that creep in.
Starting point is 01:20:33 So it's gonna be interesting to see what exactly is happening. I've seen rumors today that there are some hardline Republicans on the Hill that are having negotiations with Speaker Mike Johnson to get some more concessions before they're ultimately willing to do an affirmative vote for this bill. But here's the thing, if the numbers... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your
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Starting point is 01:23:37 First, we're there at this moment, then there would actually be an expiration on this vote. It wouldn't just be held open indefinitely. So that lets me know that the numbers still aren't there. But what I'm curious, if it's just the hard right Republicans that are in negotiations, what happens to some of the folks, if there are any members that are left
Starting point is 01:24:03 in the Republican caucus that are a little bit more moderate, or at least the Republicans who are in seats that are going to be contested by the Democratic party next year, I'm more curious to see what those 30-something folks are going to do. It's roughly about 35 folks. I think it would have been 36, but Congressman Don Bacon from Nebraska too, which is the Omaha area decided that he wasn't gonna run for reelection, so now that's an open seat for the Republican party.
Starting point is 01:24:32 So right now, if I was to predict, my prediction is that the votes aren't there yet. And like what Roland said with the weather patterns being what the weather patterns are, depending on how long this vote is going, I don't know that everyone's gonna get back in town yet. But I'm also curious to figure out who is actually having the negotiation,
Starting point is 01:24:53 who are the people who are holding out? Is it truly folks are holding out or is that the cover story because more people are furiously trying to get back to Washington, D.C. tonight? furiously trying to get back to Washington, D.C. tonight. Alright folks, so Scott, we'll talk about lobby efforts. There's an intensive lobby effort going on. What you've got is you've got different groups all around the country.
Starting point is 01:25:21 You've got electrical workers, you've got trade unionists, you've got the Bishop of the Catholic Church all making cars and putting pressure on Republicans to get them to vote this bill down. Right. Hardline conservatives who are fiscal hawks who don't like the debt ceiling and what the additional debt is going to raise.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Then you have those Republicans in purple states or Democratic states or districts that are going to be challenged by the Dems, as my colleague said. And they are terrified of voting when you're going to take 17 million people off the Medicaid bill. you're going to take 17 million people off the Medicaid bill, and then you have a group of Republicans who are a mix of both, if you will, and can't get there. In the end, they don't want to be primaried. And I think in the end—I think my colleague was right, they don't have the votes right now, but somehow the Republicans just seem to capitulate.
Starting point is 01:26:21 And in the end, Donald Trump gets what he wants, which is not necessarily what's best for the country. And it's just really sad what's gonna happen as far as what's predictable if history repeats itself. We have of course some members out here. I want to say something about Councilman Clark right here. Councilman Clark, you can step on over here for a second. We're going to chat with her and let me do this here. We'll give her a microphone.
Starting point is 01:27:04 So while we wait, we're actually live. So yes. So let me go ahead and do this here. Turn this on. And then we'll just clip this on so we can hear you. He's doing it right on the air. So, uh, give us a sense of what the lobbying has been like for the past 24, 38 hours trying to get those three public individuals to vote no. Well, it's been quite hard.
Starting point is 01:27:35 We've tried everything, shaming. We've reached out. We've asked their constituents to reach out. You know, I think these folks have really worked themselves up into believing that whatever the administration tells them, they will adhere to. So there are a couple of folks in the Republican Party who are moderates who are having a lot of heartburn over Medicare. They're gonna ask you now. That's okay, we just laugh all day. You're not. So not in no way feel that. See, you tell us, don't look at your ass and feet.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Well, you done told everybody you got an ass and feet. So you realize that now. Yes, yes, yes. We ain't taking, we live. What I was saying is that there is a group of moderates who are getting heartburn because they know that the Medicaid cuts are going to decimate the health care infrastructure for Americans. And then there are the sort of more extremist right wing who have been doing everything they can to basically cut down the size of the federal government and are concerned about
Starting point is 01:28:42 deficit spending. So they see the need for more cuts to the federal budget, minus, of course, the Defense Department, where they have to pay a contract. See, that's what I'm talking about. I keep cracking up. I keep hearing all of this stuff about cuts and SNAP and all those programs.
Starting point is 01:28:59 And it's amazing how nobody wants to touch defense. It doesn't come up, and they actually want to give more money to it. Absolutely. Well, I mean, the bill is packed with all manner of funding for paramilitary type of activities to expand ICE, which has no accountability to anyone, which will, I believe, have implications for vigilantism in the United States. And I mean, the bill is horrific.
Starting point is 01:29:29 It's the big ugly. There's no doubt about it. And, you know, over 1,000 pages, we're still going through it. We just got it yesterday. Got it. Right? So, we know that the big areas are nutrition assistance for our communities, and already our food pantries are struggling to meet the needs of our people.
Starting point is 01:29:52 This will be a direct blow to families just when inflation has hit all-time highs and will continue to escalate due to the tariff regime that they put in place. And so, I mean, the United States is going to suffer. Our people are going to suffer. And we wanted to make sure that the black community in particular is undergirded. Navigate our people through these really troubling times into victory. All right, then. I'm glad you asked this question.
Starting point is 01:30:28 I appreciate it. We'll grab this here. So let me do this here, folks. We're going to go to a quick break. We'll be right back from the U.S. Capitol right here at Roland Martin. I'm Phil Chalamet, Black Star Network. This week, on the other side of change. Mass incarceration.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and how it is profitable. And there's something really, really perverse about saying that we need to put people in cages. We need to put people in prison. We need to put people in prison. We need to put people in prison. We need to put people in prison. We need to put people in prison. We need to put people in prison. We need to put people in prison. The mass incarceration Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and how it is profitable. And there's something really, really perverse about saying that we need to put people in cages in order for other people to have jobs. Like that is not how our economy should be built.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Only on the other side of change on the Black Star Network. Don Winslow explains how it really works. To end chain migration. Ending chain migration. Chain migration. Chain migration. Chain migration. At the same time Donald Trump was spewing all this hate, he was using a high-powered lawyer and chain migration to bring his wife, Melania's mother, father, and sister to the
Starting point is 01:31:19 United States where his money bought their citizenship. Citizenship was just awarded to victims of my canals. Here's how it works. At the same time plagiarizing plastic First Lady Melania Trump had kids pulled from their cages for this staged photo op, her family was living lavishly in the United States under permanent resident status. But that's mainly just for rich white people.
Starting point is 01:31:41 If you're Mexican, you don't get to live in a fancy New York apartment while you wait. Donald Trump makes you wait in a cage. The world's most successful liar couldn't have his future wife be in the United States illegally, so he spent the big bucks to get Melania an Einstein Visa. Don't you think in any way that it's hypocritical that his wife got to stay in the country with an EB-1 visa, the so-called Einstein Visa? Not at all, Steven. I know physics. Now the EB-1 is reserved for immigrants with extraordinary ability. And when you think of extraordinary ability, you don't exactly think of Melania.
Starting point is 01:32:11 But Trump didn't care. He just wanted it done. Meet Michael Wilds, the high-powered lawyer who helped secure US citizenship for Melania Trump and her parents, Victor and Amaya Knott, and a green card for her sister, Ines. See, when Melania became a citizen in 2006, it gave her the right to sponsor her parents and sisters.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Hence the name, chain migration. Trump destroyed families and sold a closed border policy to his base while using chain migration to bring in his own family. At the same time that Department of Homeland Security were ripping children from their mother's arms and locking them in cages, Melania's family was walking out of court with a personal security escort of Department of Homeland Security officers. Note the patches on the uniform. Donald Trump has one policy for white people and another
Starting point is 01:32:51 for Brown. I met with the border patrol agents and they're doing a great job. Okay, stop the music. There are still thousands of children locked up in Trump's border prisons. There are children that have not seen their parents in years. How long can Trump keep them in prison? Do they get out when they're 18? Hi, my name is Brady Ricks. I'm from Houston, Texas. My name is Sharon Williams. I'm from Dallas, Texas. Right now I'm rolling with Roland Martin.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Unfiltered, uncut, unplugged, and undamn believable. You hear me? You still doing? You still doing? You still doing? You still doing? Folks, we're here at the United States Capitol where Shirley Correction Black Caucus
Starting point is 01:33:35 will be holding their emergency rally. We just talked to, of course, the chair of CBC, Congresswoman Yvette Clark, now joining us, Congresswoman Maxine Waters. These sort of budget fights are not new to you? Well, first of all, let me tell you, I'm here with the head of the Black Congress. And we have been on the floor today
Starting point is 01:33:55 where we did what is a line where we keep coming and others joined up to say there's an amendment that could possibly undo what you're doing on Medicaid and on SNAP. And so in that leadership, I got very inspired. As a matter of fact, I got so worked up until I wanted to stay there all night long. We did it once before, didn't we? You're trying to pull a John Lewis, huh? We were. You're trying to make some good trouble.
Starting point is 01:34:22 That's right. Absolutely. We did good trouble when we stayed there all night and we kind of made ourselves known. We're in that kind of fight now. That's right. It is a terrible fight that we're in. As a matter of fact, it has been said over and over again, there's never been these kind of cuts historically, ever, that the government moved this drastically on the population of people who need the government
Starting point is 01:34:47 the most. When you talk about Medicare and Medicaid, people are going to die. We've got 16, 17 million people who are going to get cut. We won't be able to have the kind of basic care that they need to stay alive. And then we've got SNAP. Let me tell you, it's not SNAP, it's food stamps. Food stamps. It's food for people who cannot afford to put food adequately on the table and have the kind of nutrition just to keep them going. And so we're in this fight. Why are we
Starting point is 01:35:18 in this fight? We have the most vile, the most corrupt, the most unkind, the most undignified human being who is the President of the United States of America. And he doesn't give a darn about the populations that's going to be impacted by the decisions that he's making. He's made up his mind that he is going to work for the billionaires in this country. And the billionaires want a tax break. And that's what he's going to work for the billionaires in this country. And the billionaires want a tax break, and that's what he's going to give them. And out of all of that, he's going to get rewarded by them.
Starting point is 01:35:52 He's owning all of crypto now, and he's getting billions of dollars, even from Abu Dhabi. He got, I think, $2 billion to go into stable coins. And so we're fighting. The Black Corcus is fighting. We're doing everything that we can. We're in the protest. We're on the internet. But in the final analysis, we got to be on the street. We've got to organize the way we were taught to do in the Civil Rights Movement. We show up and we protest and we walk the walk. We've got to do all of that
Starting point is 01:36:24 because this is a fight that we cannot be intimidated by the walk. We've got to do all of that because this is a fight that we cannot be intimidated by the president. We cannot step backwards. We've got to fight and even if he thinks he wins we got to keep on fighting. The logic of cutting food benefits but then you want to go the corporate tax right going from 35 to 21 percent. You already have corporations who put their money offshore anyway. I mean, that to me is what is crazy. And both of you have heard all these Republicans for years yell about the deficit, but they don't care that this is about to explode the deficit.
Starting point is 01:36:56 That's right. I mean, you're like, OK, what happened to the deficit hawks? That's right. It's the dismantling. It's the dismantling of society as we know it. It is expanding the wealth gap way beyond what the average American has ever known. We're moving towards authoritarian oligarchy with these corporations and their leadership making out like bandits.
Starting point is 01:37:23 This tax cut is a tax cut in perpetuity. This is not a sunsetted tax cut. And the reason we're here is because it would sunset if we didn't pass this legislation. We've also seen they are rolling back the hiring of the IRS agents. That also was generating revenue. We are now seeing they were cutting the folks, firing the folks who were at the top line going after the riches of the riches. And so up and down, they want to hook up folk who got money.
Starting point is 01:37:56 And if you are making $80,000 or less, you're screwed. Absolutely. As a matter of fact, what people have to understand is the president of the United States is taking over all of government. And when he's decided there be no more independent agencies, they'd have to come and check with him, like the SEC, Securities and Exchange. They have to come to him before they do any public policy, before they do anything, and he will tell them whether or not they can do it. So in taking over all of the government agencies that are supposed to be independent, what you're talking about now, you're talking about a dictator. That's what he wants to be. He loves Putin.
Starting point is 01:38:35 He loves Kim Jong-un over in North Korea. He wants to be a dictator and he's moving rapidly toward it. He even now wants to take over the Fed. And the Fed is supposed to be absolutely independent. And so Powell is fighting back. The man who's there, he's fighting back. But the president is continuing to say, I'm gonna get you.
Starting point is 01:38:58 And the way that they're gonna get him now, they're gonna put him under investigation. That's what they're doing to all of us. They put us under investigation. They've got the government's money to put him under investigation. That's what they're doing to all of us. They put us under investigation. They've got the government's money to file lawsuits against us. And so they'll keep coming. And we're going to see what happens with Powell over at the Fed and whether or not they're going to get rid of him by putting him under a false investigation.
Starting point is 01:39:18 This is a mean, low-down, cruel president of the United States of America. And I don't want people to think, oh, this is going to work out. If they win the vote, they'll go in the back room and they'll negotiate. No, this is not that at all. This is horror and terror that's going to be placed on the most vulnerable people in this country,
Starting point is 01:39:40 people who depend on government, who work every day, who are trying to get better careers so they can earn more money. These are the working people and the poor people that are going to be absolutely overrun by the President of the United States, taking away that which many of us have worked so hard for to ensure that the government makes sure that it does everything that he can for people to have just a decent quality of life, just a decent quality of life, which means you can eat, you have a decent place to live, you can get up on Sunday
Starting point is 01:40:15 morning and go to church, but he has taken away our ability to have a decent quality of life and he is absolutely focused on it and intends to make it happen whatever it takes. I could go on to any number of things that are unbelievable. When he took over and went to the Supreme Court with Chalbert and you know what they did? They just moved it over into saying you know the lower courts cannot overturn or deny the president on an executive order, whatever he wants to do. Birthright citizenship. If the lower court does it, it just remains in their jurisdiction.
Starting point is 01:40:55 So you have a country where you have over here, your birthright can be taken away or whatever they want to do. But next door to you in the same district, they have a right to do whatever they want to do because he has undermined birthright by dealing with executive auditors, whether or not the lower courts can tell him that his executive audits unconstitutional. I mean, this is some big stuff that people got to understand. Absolutely. It looks like y'all about to get started real soon so we're gonna sit here let you do that. I appreciate y'all chatting with us for a second.
Starting point is 01:41:31 I'll take any other two. Oh no, we live so we took all of it. We were live so you're good. We got all of it. All right folks again we're here at the U.S. Capitol where in moments Congressional Black Caucus are gonna be having what they're calling an emergency rally here. They've actually asked a number of organization leaders to come out, bring their people out. And so different members are gonna be here. They're gonna be bringing some chairs
Starting point is 01:41:54 and each one of them are gonna be talking and sharing their perspective. So here's the deal, I can't hear, I cannot hear the control room or hear our panelists, but I'm gonna go to Matt first, I'm gonna go to Matt Matt, I'm going to go to Scott, and I'm going to go to Rebecca. And Matt, this is the type of thing that's needed. And it is interesting.
Starting point is 01:42:13 I've been seeing all these people in the last couple of days talk about Democrats need to fight, need to do more. Well, first of all, you're severely limited when you don't control the House, when you don't control the Senate, when you don't control the White House. The reality is it's here. If the Republicans want control the White House, the reality is this here. If the Republicans want to pass this budget, they can pass this budget. Now, the fight right now is amongst Republicans as to whether they're going to approve the Senate version or do their own budget, do another bill, send that back to the Senate
Starting point is 01:42:38 and go back and forth. And so the reality is what Democrats, the only thing they can do is aggressively lobby Republicans who are in very difficult districts to get them to understand that guess what? Listen, you're going to pay a political price if you vote for it. That's really what we're dealing with. Matt? Exactly. They need to break away and they need to, I mean, the Republicans who are in these moderate districts need to break away.
Starting point is 01:43:04 And the people who are just, you know, against the bill need to be swayed, hopefully, by the Democrats attacking them, saying, or really cajoling them to say, do the right thing, or else you're going to be on the chopping block. But Rebecca said something earlier that I was thinking, I think that the subterfuge or the answer that they're giving about why the vote is open this long is because people are coming back. But I think what's really happening behind closed doors is certain Republican members are probably more cascading. They're probably saying, this is what I need for my district.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Give me what I want for my district. And then I will see to what the president wants, which is what I suspect is happening. But I've never understood politically why you would want to sign on to this bill. I understand that they're all afraid of Mr. Trump, but I would be more afraid of your constituents, because so many of them are going to lose health care, and it's going to affect their lives meaningfully, that it seems like this would be the situation where you break away. But hopefully the messaging from the Democrats will cause them to do that. You know, we don't be in the streets and what have you, but I always get back to the
Starting point is 01:44:09 whole voting piece. Black and brown people and Democrats and independents got to vote. We told them what this was going to be like repeatedly. They lived through this once with Donald Trump won, and we just aren't voting enough to outvote the Democrats or outvote Trump and MAGAism, and we're losing black and brown male voters. We're losing independents. And so the Democrats got to get their message together, got to get their politics together. They got to get a message that is hard-hitting
Starting point is 01:44:46 and makes sense, and then they need to implement, get their own political gangsters out there, much like the master Republicans, because we up against some gangsters, some political gangsters. And so, until that happens, I'm all about marching and protesting, but we got to get our power back. Without that power, it's hard to really make a difference and to fight back effectively for our people. So there is a phrase that's really interesting that the congresswoman said, and it was authoritarianism, but authoritarian oligarchy. And so I want to explore that more. Basically what she's saying is we have consolidated power.
Starting point is 01:45:26 It's by those who are the capitalists, those handful of folks who own the wealth in this country. And they are removing a lot of democratic principles and they're taking it out of our government. And instead we see a consolidation of power. It's largely around money. And those are the things that are happening that are determining whether or not elected officials
Starting point is 01:45:49 are going to vote for something like this that by all estimations is gonna be really devastating to ordinary and the majority of Americans in this country. And so we can talk about voting. And of course I lead a national voting rights organization to always support voting. But the thing is people are going to have to turn out at such overwhelming numbers and flood the zone and so many people have to show up.
Starting point is 01:46:17 So then when we see like in North Carolina where you have a you have someone who's duly elected to the state Supreme Court and you see that there's like a six month battle with whether or not that person could be sworn in because the person who lost decided that they wanted to be a sore loser and that they wanted to contest a race that should not have been contested and they were using different legal maneuverings that also didn't make sense, right? And so we need so many people of good conscience to get ready to show up. There are elections in this fall, but also in the spring,
Starting point is 01:46:51 there are primaries going into the 2026 midterm cycle. But those are the things that have to happen if ordinary, everyday Americans don't like what they're watching. If they're seeing, and especially by the numbers, we see that most Americans do not support the elements that are in this bill. But we are seeing that there are still
Starting point is 01:47:13 a majority of members of Congress who have decided they're going to vote for it anyway. Because their calculation is, you know what? You're going to hate what we're voting for. But guess what? You're going to vote and re-elect me anyway. and there's no consequences I'm going to have to pay. So it's one reason why you're seeing that the vote is still open because there is active negotiation that's happening now where you're going to see different members, especially
Starting point is 01:47:38 members of the Republican Party who are going to carve out what used to be called pork, I think pork barrel special projects for their district. But you're going to have people, maybe like a Virginia Foxx saying, hey, disregard the two rural hospitals in my district that are about to shut down and disregard that there's going to be long lines in the ER because that's not how people are going to start to get their health care because it cuts to both Medicare and it cuts both to Medicaid. That's a large swath of Virginia Fox's district. But disregard that because instead I have a new post office that's being named or disregard that because I got an extra ten million dollars that will go support small businesses in my district. People
Starting point is 01:48:20 have to make sure that they're not falling for the okie-dokie because yeah it's great there's an extra five million dollars to support small business but at the cost of upwards 43% when I'm thinking about Alaska of people who are either on Medicare or they're on Denali care Denali care is Alaska's equivalent of Medicaid which is for working families and for poor families and for children whose parents aren't able to buy them private insurance to make sure that they self-adequate health care. And so people can't fall for the okie doke here.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Don't let someone play in your face or lie in your face. You actually have the tools to look up and see what the devastating consequences are going to happen because your representative is is is hell-bent on voting for a bill that by all means is a bad bill. All right folks so we'll do a reset so we left our studios at 16th and K on what I still call Black Lives Matter Plaza to race down to the United States Capitol so as you can see go ahead and pan so you got a number of members who on what I still call Black Lives Matter Plaza, the race down here to the United States Capitol. So as you can see, go ahead and pan. So you've got a number of members who are here,
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Starting point is 01:52:46 They got their table set up as well. So what they've been doing is wanting as many folks as possible to come out here for what they are calling this emergency rally. Again, drawing attention, driving attention, because the pressure is being put on Republicans inside of that building in the U.S. Capitol. Donald Trump gave the Republicans a deadline of July 4th where he wanted this bill passed. And so he wanted this bill passed by July 4th. And so they want to meet that deadline, but they got some Republicans who are actually stuck joining us right now is Congresswoman Lauren Underwood.
Starting point is 01:53:24 You can just go ahead and hold it so that's cool The one of the things that's really jumping out here you have all these Republicans who were saying oh no don't touch Medicaid don't touch Medicaid Trump there's a report that said he met with them and he literally said hey if you guys want to survive political connection don't touch Medicare Medicaid Social Security they were dude, this actually cuts Medicaid. And it's as if he doesn't know what the Hell's Own bill even does. And so it's amazing to listen to them bemoan that. But I'm going to go ahead and vote for people like Senator Josh Holler. Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Because Mitch McConnell says they'll get over it. Yeah, that was literally a quote. Well, we're all going to die anyway. So they don't care. The cruelty is the point. They raise these objections as lip service, and then they all cave. That is how they operate every day in service of one person, Donald Trump. You've got, I was talking to Ken Martin yesterday here, the DNC, as well as Leader Jeffries,
Starting point is 01:54:26 and there are 35, what they call, vulnerable Republicans, and who Democrats are targeting next year. But do you believe that they're gonna actually show some heart and vote for the constituents, or are they gonna bow down to dear leader? They are all going to vote for this bill. This is the singular legislative priority for Donald Trump, and they are here to make sure that Donald Trump is happy.
Starting point is 01:54:52 And then they will lose their majority in November 2026, and we will be back in charge of the House of Representatives and reclaim the people's house for the people. And so for the person who's watching, for the person who's listening, who will say, well, okay, so you think it's gonna pass anyway Why do all of this? Why well because they don't have the votes yet. They're in the middle of these negotiations right now. They are jockeying
Starting point is 01:55:13 They are horse-drawn. They are literally getting what they are bending to the knee and someone's coming and slapping their behind Still open the vote is still open and it's been open since 1 30 this afternoon So that's six hours. Yes, sir. Which is not normal. It is completely abnormal. We flew in, they summoned us here, knowing that they didn't have the votes. They did the test vote, they didn't have the votes, and now they're trying to get a grip
Starting point is 01:55:42 and figure it out. This is where you come in. This is where the phone calls come in. This is when the stories come in. This is when the activations are important to show them so that they can't say they didn't know. So they can't say, well no one told me. So they can't say, well I didn't see that in the bill. We're standing here today saying that 17 million people are about to lose their health care. Millions more are going to see their costs rise. We're standing here today saying- And a whole lot of red states.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Oh, every state, every zip code, every zip code. We're standing here saying that rural hospitals are about to close, the nursing home industry is going to collapse. What that means is end of life planning for grandmama and them, like for real. There's not going to be anywhere for our loved ones to get the level of care that they deserve. If folks don't understand, this ain't a black thing. We're talking about the entire Louisiana healthcare system.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Said the speaker, Mike Johnson, what are you doing? You got the building trades, the electrical workers who are saying, oh, y'all killing all this green jobs. You're killing the manufacturing. And they're just kind of like, nope, don'tall killing all this, all this green jobs. You're killing the manufacturing. And they're just kind of like, nope, don't matter. We're good. Don't matter. Because the billionaires are getting their tax cuts.
Starting point is 01:56:52 And for them, that's enough. For them being these House Republicans. And the large corporations. That's right. But for working families, regular Americans, we know that people in our communities are going to be going hungry. Kids, veterans, seniors going hungry. The largest cuts to food stamps. For some of you, you all might call it EBT.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Right? Like, you all know what we're talking about? Cut all this paperwork designed to make sure that you don't get that $6 a day to help you feed your family. And then they're claiming these 4.5, 5 million people on Medicaid who are able-bodied people, so that's their rationale. They're trying to create this archetype as if there's some 30 year old man in his parents basement playing video games all day, eating off the system, trying to get some health care. That's the thing, and that guy should be going to work. I think that's the new Ronald Reagan welfare queen. Well. Which we now know was non-existent. That was fictitious.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Who's actually on Medicaid? Half of all kids in this country are on Medicaid. Medicaid pays for two-thirds of births for black moms and families. We're talking about moms and babies getting kicked off their health care. And they're doing it to give billionaires a tax cut. That's it. And they think that you all are gonna get over it. You have to stand firm and say absolutely no.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Unequivocally no. Are they hearing from their districts? I mean, look, the Fox News poll shows 60% was against this bill. I mean, it is- It's never been popular. Right. And no poll, none, has this been popular. But you know what Mitch McConnell said,
Starting point is 01:58:25 they'll get over it. That's literally what he said. And so, we need you to call, like right now, today. Pick a Republican, any Republican. Right. And no matter which one, and it doesn't have to be your representative either. Yeah, I told everybody yesterday, guys,
Starting point is 01:58:40 every Democrat's voting against it. I said, so, Taylor, I said, don't waste your energy trying to call a Democrat in the house. You should be calling Republicans in the house. Yes and share the stories. There's not like you don't need a script You don't need to read off the script You're not gonna do it wrong and I know that some people don't like to make phone calls. They like to text No, they like to post they like to slide into DMs. This is not that moment You know just no no, they get they get No, no, they gotta lock up phone lines.
Starting point is 01:59:06 And make that phone call. Yep. Okay. Thanks, Marlon. Congresswoman On The Wheel, we appreciate it. Good to see you. Thanks a bunch. All right, folks, we're gonna go to a quick break and then we're gonna come back. And then hopefully this will be starting soon. We're gonna be carrying it live right here, rolling on the filter, right here on the Black Star Network. Thank you. Roll the mic, unfilch it, right here on the Black Star Network. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.
Starting point is 01:59:26 On the other side of change. Mass incarceration. Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and how it is profitable. And there's something really, really perverse about saying that we need to put people in cages in order for other people to have jobs. Like, that is not how our economy should be built. Only on the other side of change on the Black Star Network. Don Winslow explains how it really works.
Starting point is 01:59:52 To end chain migration. Ending chain migration. Chain migration. Chain migration. Chain migration. At the same time Donald Trump was spewing all this hate, he was using a high-powered lawyer and chain migration to bring his wife, Melania's mother, father, and sister to the United
Starting point is 02:00:07 States where his money bought their citizenship. Citizenship was just awarded to victims of my canals. Here's how it works. At the same time plagiarizing plastic First Lady Melania Trump had kids pulled from their cages for this staged photo op, her family was living lavishly in the United States under permanent resident status. But that's mainly just for rich white people. If you're Mexican, you don't get to live
Starting point is 02:00:30 in a fancy New York apartment while you wait. Donald Trump makes you wait in a cage. The world's most successful liar couldn't have his future wife be in the United States illegally, so he spent the big bucks to get Melania an Einstein Visa. Don't you think in any way that it's hypocritical that his wife got to stay in the country
Starting point is 02:00:46 with an EB-1 visa, the so-called Einstein visa? Not at all, Steven. I know physics. Now, the EB-1 is reserved for immigrants with extraordinary ability. And when you think of extraordinary ability, you don't exactly think of Melania. But Trump didn't care.
Starting point is 02:01:00 He just wanted it done. Meet Michael Wilds, the high-powered lawyer who helped secure US citizenship for Melania Trump and her parents Victor and Amaya Knott, and a green card for her sister Ines. See, when Melania became a citizen in 2006, it gave her the right to sponsor her parents and sisters, hence the name, chain migration.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Trump destroyed families and sold a closed border policy to his base while using chain migration to bring in his own family. At the same time that Department of Homeland Security were ripping children from their mother's arms and locking them in cages, Alania's family was walking out of court with a personal security escort of Department of Homeland Security officers. Note the patches on the uniform. Donald Trump has one policy for white people and another for brown.
Starting point is 02:01:40 I met with the border patrol agents and they're doing a great job. Okay, stop the music. There are still thousands of children locked up in Trump's border prisons. There are children that have not seen their parents in years. How long can Trump keep them in prison? Do they get out when they're 18? Do they spend their entire childhood in a cage? Do they ever get out?
Starting point is 02:02:04 Do they ever get out? Do they ever get out? Now streaming on the Black Star Network. In France, me and Tony, and accidentally went to the Louvre, right, but I had never been, and I saw a side door. And we got off the little bus and I said, let's go to the Louvre. I mean, I'm just like, let's go to the room. Right. We're here. This black girl is at the door with this white guy, black African girl. And she says, oh my God, Vanessa Bell Calloway. And I'm like this, you know me? And come to find out we were at the wrong door. But she said, I'm gonna get you in, just go in here. But I was a Paris friend. And that shocked me. She knew my name. She knew me. This is my movie.
Starting point is 02:02:46 You know, so it's like, you just got to, as they say, build and they will come. But it happened. People were excited. They were all over. Now streaming on the Black Friday, we're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show.
Starting point is 02:02:55 We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show.
Starting point is 02:03:03 We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. We're back with more of the latest in the show. I had been trying to get a record deal for a long time. You know, when I finally got signed to Motown record label in 2003, I was 34, 35 years old. And up until that time, I had been trying to get record deals the traditional way. You know, you record your demo, you record your music, and you send it to the record labels. Or maybe somebody, a friend of a friend,
Starting point is 02:03:35 knows somebody that works for the record label. And really, chemistry was, that was my last ditch effort at being in the music business. How long you been trying? I've been trying since I was a teenager. Wow. And you know and I'm grateful that it didn't I'm grateful that it happened when it happened because I wasn't prepared you know as a teenager to embrace all that comes with the career in the music industry. ["Pride and the Beast"] Hi, I am Tommy Davidson.
Starting point is 02:04:21 I play Oscar on Proud Family, Louder and Prouder. I don't say, I don't play Sammy, but Iouder. I don't play Sammy, but I could. Or I don't play Obama, but I could. I don't do Stallone, but I could do all that. And I am here with Roland Martin on Unfiltered. All right, folks, in just a moment, the Wrecking Ball Caucus is going to start. They brought these chairs out here.
Starting point is 02:04:46 They got some different young folks out here who are impacted people, so they're going to be having them talk as well. So we're about to carry that live. So they're about to start right now. So they're about to file in. And so here we go. And so they're going to grab the mic here. And so good to see you, Connors Maumann. Hey. And so good to see you Congresswoman.
Starting point is 02:05:05 Hey, hey, good to see you. Absolutely, absolutely. We're out here with the people. Absolutely. And so we're going to start in just a moment here and hear what they got to say. All right. So again, I'll be naming the folks here. You see you've got Congresswoman Lauren Underwood, you've got Congresswoman Frederica Wilson,
Starting point is 02:05:28 Congresswoman Yvette Clark, you've got Congresswoman Troy Carter of New Orleans, Congresswoman Joyce Beatty, Congresswoman Hank Johnson, you've got Congresswoman Lucy McBath, you've got Congresswoman Latifah here, and then you've got of course Congresswoman Maxine Waters and other members are going to be coming as well. And so we're going to hear from them in just a second. So it's Congressman Latifah Simon who's on the far left as well. So there we go So we're about to start in a second Yeah, I got that I got that I got the DJ I mic up here this they got a spare there was speaker here as Well folks, so we'll be able to hear them and so We'll we'll work through it
Starting point is 02:06:24 All right hear them and so we'll we'll work through it. Mark is that speaker on? No it's not on. So let me thank, so folks who are watching, let me thank Rebecca, Matt, and Scott for being with us and so stuff changed quickly and so I appreciate y'all being on today's panel. So let's go ahead, we'll get started from, sorry. There you go. I think there you go. Ready? Good evening, everyone. Good evening.
Starting point is 02:07:40 I want to thank Congresswoman Clark for inviting us all today. And if you know the CBC, the Congressional Black Caucus, you know that it is in our tradition to honor the folks who have driven the way. We have Maxine Waters and others. But, Rep. Clark, thank you for allowing me to speak first as the newest member of the Congressional Black Caucus. I want to be clear why we are here and why we will not leave this floor until we all vote hell no, every single Democrat. But the consciousness of the Congressional Black Caucus has always been pure. That we have fought for poor people, we have fought for folks red and blue, we have been consistent literally in the theology of freedom, that everyone deserves
Starting point is 02:08:35 rightful treatment. When you are sick you deserve health care, that our community should be abuzz in and that no one should be left behind. Many of you all have watched these folks as I have over the years, standing on the congressional floor, sometimes sitting on the floor, being a mirror to the evil that exists in that dome. And one of the things that we need to be clear about tonight at the CBC and you'll hear the why of how our heroes who will march up those stairs in just an hour or so, what we will be bringing with us. We are bringing forth every single elder in our community that is on Medicaid.
Starting point is 02:09:15 We are building the love of the many foster parents that we are supporting and cheering for as they do the good work, as the Republicans try to fill their Medicaid. We are loving all the young people in every single city in all 50 states and territories who are living off of six dollars a snap a day and saying not only do you deserve that,
Starting point is 02:09:38 you deserve more while these folks behind us are trying to rip your dignity and take the literal benefits that your grandmother has worked for. We say, we are going to continue to fight and know that the direction of black politics will never bop. We will never give up.
Starting point is 02:09:58 While we don't know what's gonna happen on the other side of this vote overall, we know damn sure that black folks in Congress who belong to this caucus will never give up on our rightful, our rightful effect. And that's to consistently tell the truth. And it's to stand in unity. And I want to give it back to Representative Clark
Starting point is 02:10:19 and I want to thank you for your stewardship. And I want to thank you, Maxine and others, for leading the way for young people all over the country. To remember the words, and it's you all, to remember the words of Elevator. Elevator was so clear. She said, young people come first because you have the courage where we fail.
Starting point is 02:10:41 If we do not fight for the now, there will be no future that you will own. So this movement is yours. And hopefully you will bring your voice up those stairs and make me proud. Let's clap. Let's clap. Let's clap.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Let's clap. Let's clap. Let's clap. Let's clap. Thank you Congresswoman. No, you can't see. All right, stay here. I've just been given an assignment
Starting point is 02:11:03 to take direct against and ever just give him a round of applause. His assignment, he's instructed me to instruct each of you and even some of the organizations that are here. I see LDS is here and one or two others. We'll hear from them tonight. He wants us, he wants each of you to articulate the why and the who, the who and the why you are here.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Speaking on behalf of any one of your constituents who is going to be affected or in fact devastated by what this bill, this big ugly bill will do so that the people can hear us and we can meet them on the ground. That's what Vince is asking us, is that okay? He asked me to ask y'all, I just come up here and do that. I want y'all to get on me. You wanna do that first since you're close? I'm here for folks who've led the way
Starting point is 02:12:03 and folks who are waiting for us to continuously stand up for them, I'm here for folks who have left the way and folks who are waiting for us to continuously stand up for them. I'm here to talk, like I said, foster children, young people who are incarcerated, the women who are coming home from prison to jail. We are here for the disabled community who are literally fighting to survive and fighting to live. Our wives are to be literally the folks that represent the folks who lead us the most. And please, please introduce yourself, Mr. Ambassador. Ambassador James Jr., National Newspaper Publishers Association, representing the Black Press of America.
Starting point is 02:12:38 I am so pleased to be here with the Congress of the caucus. And let me just distinctly say, 50 million black Americans are opposed to this bill. And we've come today to stand with the Congress of the caucus. This bill is gonna be devastating to black Americans. It's gonna be devastating to people who have Medicaid, devastating to people who are going to lose their health care. I have a sister who comes from Brock who was a rural hospital in Oxford, North Carolina.
Starting point is 02:13:18 And she called me today, she said, they're going to have to close the hospital if this bill passes. So this is just not for the urban community, suburban community, it's also for the rural community. The people who are voting for this bill have no care about the majority of Americans. And so we have to stand with the CDC. We have to stand with all the communities to oppose this bill. Now and forevermore. Never to allow this bill to be passed. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:13:54 If there's someone, if you want to hear about the personal stories of the people you know, you can. Good evening. I'm Congresswoman Lauren Underwood. I'm honored to represent the 14th Congressional District of Illinois. And I'm here thinking about the millions of Americans who get health care coverage through the Affordable Care Act for Obamacare, who have benefited from some tax credits that we had signed into law under Joe Biden that allowed four out of five people to get health care for $10 a month. Now you all may know that I'm a registered nurse and I have pre-existing conditions myself and I
Starting point is 02:14:35 have had Obamacare coverage and I know what it means to get a bill for a premium that's expensive and so the opportunity to lower healthcare costs for the American people was so popular that we had the lowest number of uninsured Americans in U.S. history. We did that, and this bill would rip it away. The Republicans have been trying to extend these tax credits that have offered the promise of healthcare coverage
Starting point is 02:15:02 to millions of Americans. And now we know that 17 million people will lose their coverage and hundreds of millions more will see their cost rise with this bill passed. That's why I'll be voting now. And I want to remind people that none of this was inevitable. We have an opportunity right now to continue to raise our voices. So if you haven't made a call to a House Republican and shared your own healthcare story,
Starting point is 02:15:28 told them how the closure of a rural hospital or closure of a nursing home or closure of a community clinic would hurt you and your family and your community. Please don't wait another moment. Pick up the phone and make a call right here to United States Congress and let the House Republicans know the damage that they are inflicting on our community.
Starting point is 02:15:48 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Dr. Wilson, who are you? I'm here. Hello, I'm progress woman.
Starting point is 02:16:01 I don't think you're on. Come close to your mouth. I'm a former student of a former police officer. And I know what happens when little children come to the country. When you cut your neck, that's what's going to happen to these families. Children of not... Come to me with a full record of a full work, because they have already cut it out in the first place. And I want you to know that my only day's work at the Tamagot Bridge community,
Starting point is 02:16:40 they have still something called allergy to algebra. The funding for allergy to algebra is $20 million. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this Taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Starting point is 02:17:13 Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 02:17:44 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes one, two, and three on May 21st, and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th. Ad free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Our iHeartRadio Music Festival, presented by Capital One, is coming back to Las Vegas. September 19th and 20th.
Starting point is 02:18:08 Streaming live only on Hulu. Ladies and gentlemen. Brian Adams, Ed Sheeran, Fade, Glorilla, Jelly Roll, John Fogerty, Lil Wayne, LL Cool J, Mariah Carey, Maroon 5, Sammy Hagar, Tate McCrae, The Offspring, Tim McGraw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Do you remember Vine? It changed the internet forever and it vanished in its prime. I'm Benedict Townsend and this is Vine, 6 seconds that changed the world. The untold story of genius, betrayal, and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive.
Starting point is 02:18:49 From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. When your car is making a strange noise, no matter what it is, you can't just pretend it's not happening. or wherever you start to address the problem, you can go so much further. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have resources available for you at loveyourmindtoday.org.
Starting point is 02:19:32 $150 million to operate. So that's why I... Because I represent so many places in America, so many Hispanic Americans. I represent so many cases here, so many Hispanic Americans. I represent so many cases here, so many Hispanic Americans. I represent so many cases here, so many Hispanic Americans. I represent so many cases here, so many Hispanic Americans. There's a number that's called and dated at you. Who do you want to speak with?
Starting point is 02:20:14 Let's tell them. And you can draw that representative to call. I'm so scared that point can cause death and the right to. This week on the other side of change. Mass incarceration, Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and how it is profitable. And there's something really, really perverse about saying that we need to put people in cages in order for other people to have jobs. Like, that is not how our economy should be built.
Starting point is 02:21:01 Only on the other side of change on the Black Star Network. Don Winslow explains how it really works. To end chain migration. Ending chain migration. Chain migration. Chain migration. Chain migration. At the same time Donald Trump was spewing all this hate, he was using a high-powered lawyer and chain migration
Starting point is 02:21:22 to bring his wife, Melania's mother, father, and sister to the United States where his money bought their citizenship. Citizenship was just awarded to victims of my canals. Here's how it works. At the same time plagiarizing plastic First Lady Melania Trump had kids pulled from their cages for this staged photo op, her family was living lavishly in the United States under permanent residence status. Of these institutions, we're talking about a collapse. And that collapse has a ripple effect across the entire city of New York,
Starting point is 02:21:55 because we are all interconnected. I think about those families in my district that are currently utilizing their SNAP benefits to access food through food pantries. There is such an inflation in the cost of living in our nation that we are trying to find ways for people to be able to access nutritious food at lower cost. Think about those who are not nutritionally sound, who are not healthy. The nutrition we all seek also goes to our physical wealth and mental well-being.
Starting point is 02:22:45 Without that, we can see the constant decline in the health of the people of a society. Not only will that, the SNAP benefit, the cut to SNAP benefit have a profound impact on our community, but it will then have a ripple effect on the health of our people just when they won't have access. They won't have access to Medicaid. I think about the young people who have these gig jobs and these gigs were part of the gig economy. They don't have health insurance, but they were able to access Medicaid.
Starting point is 02:23:27 And so their primary care was assured because we as a civil society looked out for young people who were out there striking out on their own and just trying to get a leg up in this economy, and our society. This is probably the most wicked thing that a government could do to its own people. To its own people. And to know that there are powers, powers in the Republican Party that is allowing their own people to suffer, just to be able to sit
Starting point is 02:24:08 at the feet of Donald Trump is just as horrific as we can ever imagine. I can't imagine what it is to give up my dignity to a man who doesn't deserve it, to be able to just maintain a seat in the Congress, but let my constituents suffer. Let my elders in my community suffer. Let the young people of our community suffer. And so we are here to say hell no. Every Democrat in the House of Representatives will be voting no on this big ugly bill. Congressman Clark, let's give her a round of applause. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 02:24:55 This person, please. Congressman Troy Carter from Louisiana, representing the second congressional district. I wanna first thank our chairwoman for bringing us together at a time when we really needed each other. And I will tell you, who am I here for? What are we here for? We're the people that don't have a voice.
Starting point is 02:25:17 We're the people that don't have a seat. We're the people that don't have a voice. But that's okay. We're here for you. And we're at the table, you're at the table because we're gonna continue to fight for you. This big ugly bill is gonna wreak havoc throughout our country.
Starting point is 02:25:33 It's gonna hurt the black community, perhaps more than any other community, but guess what? It's gonna hurt, too. And these guys don't even care because they have taken the hook, line, and safe to follow Donald Trump, not a rabbit hole that they'll never come back.
Starting point is 02:25:53 People that will be denied Medicaid who will lose their benefits one way or the other because they have made this so complex that you have to reapply and reapply. Listen, if you had to reapply for your driver's license twice a year, people wouldn't be able to drive. They know this because people are busy working,
Starting point is 02:26:13 living, trying to raise their families. So the expectation is people, even though they may be eligible, will be kicked off the roads because they make the paperwork so onerous that they can't keep up. This is a trick. This is a trick of an evil regime.
Starting point is 02:26:31 And we are going to, as Congressional Black Caucus, we're going to continue to call it out. We're going to call balls and strikes. We're going to call it everywhere we go, with our fraternities, our sororities, in church organizations, with our faith-based communities, with our civil rights leaders, with the caucus and beyond. Because however they vote today or tomorrow, this battle is not over.
Starting point is 02:26:54 We're never going to end it. We're never going to retreat. When I was in the state senate, we expanded Medicaid. And when we expanded Medicaid, one of the first things happened, tens of thousands of people got on the road. People started having access to healthcare. Rural hospitals started opening up. People that have been denied healthcare
Starting point is 02:27:15 were now being covered. Guess what will happen now? The reverse is also true. Those rural hospitals will close. And that critical time when you're having a stroke or a heart attack Those precious moments that you no longer will have to get to a community clinic or a rural hospital people In those moments where you have to drive
Starting point is 02:27:39 20 30 40 50 miles to see a doctor when you've had a stroke or a heart attack, people are going to die. That's just a fact. That's a reality. And the notion that one of our senators said, we're all going to die, we don't need to die prematurely. And we don't need to die because we were denied access to healthcare. We don't need to die prematurely, although they seem to think, as Mitch McConnell said, don't worry, they'll get over it. No, we won't, Mitch. We're not gonna get over it. We're never gonna get over it.
Starting point is 02:28:14 And we're gonna continue to fight for the people, and we're gonna make sure that the people like the McCorkens, who I brought up in Louisiana to come to Energy and Commerce, who has a child that was born severely disabled, who requires Medicaid. Now his mother and father both work. This notion that people who are on Medicaid
Starting point is 02:28:34 are scot-flaws and thugs and gangsters and get-over artists is offensive and false. There are people out there that need Medicaid for a number of reasons. People who are employed but are underemployed. Working but still poor. Are you going to tell me that these people are scot laws and bums? I think not.
Starting point is 02:28:56 But that's what they think of you. That's what they think of our people. And this Congressional Black Caucus, all the people are civil. We don't think that. And we're going to fight for you. We're going to fight that you have access to healthcare. We're going to fight for you to have access to SNAP dollars, not six dollars a day, because that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:29:15 And they want to reduce it and take it away. This Congress, this Congress on the Democratic side will continue to fight for the people and bring justice. And we, me, us all are going to vote against this hate. Thank you. Big applause. Big applause. Congressman George Sbate. Give him a round of applause.
Starting point is 02:29:41 Thank you. I'm Congresswoman George Sbate. I hail from the third congressional district of the great state of Ohio. Chair America of the congressional black house. I am here to join my colleagues and our leaders, Congresswoman Yvette Clark, to say to you that I will be casting a no vote on this bill. Why am I here? I am here for those who we can call their names and those who are named. I am here for every family, every single mom, every sick child, every child trying to get a better education whether
Starting point is 02:30:22 they are in rural America or urban America. They deserve the right to keep their healthcare open. They deserve a right to keep healthcare open. I'm here to vote no because this is the largest amount of Americans that will lose their health care. 17 million families and individuals are at risk. Some 11 million children will be taken off of staff. I am here because I want all of America to know that we are not only the country of the Congress, but
Starting point is 02:31:06 we are here because earlier today we stood up. We had a stand in because we are standing for the people. I am here because I want to make sure that we give this clarion call to answer your question. When you are asked, what is the Congressional Black Caucus doing, I don't want it to be a mistake. I want you to clearly say they are fighting for our people. They are standing up and making a difference.
Starting point is 02:31:46 They are not afraid to call out Republicans. Let me make it clear that whether it is health care, whether it is the Pell Grant, whether it is SNAP, it is not a Republican or Democrat issue. It's a people's issue. But what is a Democrat and Republican issue is that Republicans do not have the courage to do what's right. And you should not forget that. My question to you is what you are going to do. And that is you are going to vote.
Starting point is 02:32:27 You are going to vote just as we are asking in the United States Capitol later tonight that we only need four. We only need four Republicans to join up. So I need you to remember we only need four. Four Republicans to save the lives of millions and millions of children, of families, of hard-working Americans. So join me and let's say we only need four. We only need four and I yield back my time. How this affects you Congressman Hank Johnson and those in your constituency.
Starting point is 02:33:16 Thank you sir. Good evening everyone and I am proud to be here with my fellow members of the CDC, the Congressional Black Caucus, under the leadership of Chairwoman Yvette D. Clark, my classmate from the class of 2007. We've been in Congress for 19 years together. And so I'm privileged to be sharing this moment with you as well as my other members and the stakeholders who have joined us. You know, I think about over the last 40 plus years that I've been a resident of the community
Starting point is 02:33:56 where I live, which is the fourth congressional district of Georgia, I've seen congressional district of Georgia. I've seen mushrooms of pinkie dialysis popping up all throughout my community. In fact, if you look around in some places and there's a dialysis clinic on every corner. And it's not just older people who are going in three or four days a week to get dialysis. They stay alive because if they don't go, they will die. But it's young people too who are suffering from kidney disease, from diabetes, from high blood pressure.
Starting point is 02:34:46 And there's thousands of them just in the fourth district for making that trek every week, three or four times a week. And many of them work, but some of them can't work. But if, I'll tell you this, most of those people in those dialysis clinics could not be there unless they were on Medicaid. And then there's a fair number who are also on Medicare. So in this big, ugly bill, we're cutting $1 trillion in Medicaid.
Starting point is 02:35:35 We're cutting $500 billion in Medicare. And so we are also cutting subsidies that make health insurance affordable for people because some of the people at the dialysis clinics cutting subsidies that make health insurance affordable for people because some of the people at the dialysis clinics are paying with private insurance but when those subsidies go away they won't have the private insurance and so it is a catastrophe in the making that is going to lead to the deaths of thousands of people in this country if this bill passes. 50 plus thousand people per year are scheduled or predicted or projected to lose their lives because they are not going to have access to health care in the richest country on earth.
Starting point is 02:36:28 That is a shame. It's a shame. And anybody who votes for this bill should be ashamed of themselves. So I'm here, along with my colleagues, to be the voice for the least of these, for those who are hungry and we can feed them. I'm not going to be one of those who doesn't feed them. For the sick who need our care, I'm not going to be one who turns them away from care. And for the
Starting point is 02:37:09 strangers, our, we call them strangers, but really that's a biblical term. I'm talking about our immigrants who are in this community, who we can shut the door or we can open the door so that we can all prosper. I'm here to speak for them as well and I thank you all for being here. Thank you, Congressman Hank Johnson and Congressman Lucy McBath. Let's give her a round of applause. Congressman Lucy McBath, I represent Georgia's 6th congressional district, which is all of the suburbs of the Atlanta metropolitan area. And I do want to thank our chair, Congresswoman Yvette Clark, and I want to thank our chair, Merida. I want to thank the leadership of the Congressional Black Prophet.
Starting point is 02:37:56 I want to thank the organizations that are joining us here tonight. Thank you for this steadfast commitment, standing up for democracy, for the people all over the country that are actually fighting for tonight. I will tell you I'm voting no on this bill tonight and I'm voting no on this bill tonight because as a two-time breast cancer survivor I remember sitting in the office sitting in the office with all the other women like myself as we were waiting to see our surgeon, our doctor, as we were waiting for care to make sure that we would survive and we would still live. I remember the discussions that we had, the fears that we had about being able to pay for our care, pay for the surgery, pay for the pharmaceuticals that we need to keep alive.
Starting point is 02:38:50 And I remember the discussions that I had with women who were on this, who were afraid as to whether or not they were going to be able to pay for their care, keep them alive. We talked about our families, we talked about our children, we talked about how we're going to be here to carry on and to take care of our family. From here tonight, because I understand that I had good health care insurance and I've survived cancer twice, but I know there are so many women in this country, especially women of color, that if Medicaid is cut, if the financial resources are cut for their access to health care, they will not survive. They will have nowhere to turn.
Starting point is 02:39:42 I'm here tonight to vote against this bill because I'm concerned about every woman in this country who has used Planned Parenthood as the only means of care, reproductive care, not just for abortion but for their wellness check, for birth control, and they won't have access to that anymore. Where are they going to go? Where are they gonna get their help? I'm here tonight to vote no on this bill because I have asked over and over again in the state of Georgia to our governor
Starting point is 02:40:16 why he won't feed our children during the summer when they're in summer camp. Why he refuses to feed our children, feed our babies, and I've never been able to get an answer. And now I'm even more afraid that they won't even be fed during the summer. They just won't have SNAP and these benefits at all. I'm here tonight without no on this bill because I'm so this bill because I'm so deeply and gravely concerned about what this means for the nation. We're talking about health care cuts. We're talking about public education cuts. We're talking about veterans cuts. We're talking about for those that have disabilities. We're talking about a whole gamut of cuts that will just completely rip the blood from
Starting point is 02:41:09 underneath the feet of so many people in this country every single day that are just struggling to get by. So I'm voting no tonight for those people who don't have a voice. I'm voting no tonight against this diabolical, unethical, immoral piece of legislation that will change democracy here in the United States for generations to come. I'm voting no on this piece of legislation because all of the people who have been in this building, who've been in this Capitol, who've been on this Hill long before I came, fought to undergird and support America.
Starting point is 02:41:55 And I, y'all know, if I'm gonna let all the work that they've done go down in dance. Thank you. Thank you. Next in Wally, for whom are you? Hello everybody. Hello. All of my colleagues for Black Power. For all of the world's community every day.
Starting point is 02:42:20 Even though we have a crisis right now, we're excited even when others don't know that it is a crisis. You hear every day whether it's on education, maybe general, whether it's on health care, whether it's on what needs to be done. Ladies and gentlemen, this just didn't happen. This happened because somebody made it happen.
Starting point is 02:42:45 Who was it? The guy who did this to Donald Trump. You know who it is. It's the President of the United States of America, Donald Trump. You know that this untimely, cruel, lowdown, dirty President of the United States has used his executive power, used his executive orders to change this country
Starting point is 02:43:08 in ways that nobody ever thought could do. Our answer... I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this Taser the revolution.
Starting point is 02:43:32 But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.
Starting point is 02:44:01 Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes one, two, and three on May 21st, and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th. Ad free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Our iHeartRadio Music Festival, presented by Capital One, is coming back to Las Vegas. September 19th and 20th. On your feet! Streaming live only on Hulu.
Starting point is 02:44:32 Ladies and gentlemen. Brian Adams and Sheeran. Fade, Glorilla, Jelly Roll, John Fogarty, Lil Wayne, LL Cool J, Mariah Carey, Maroon 5, Sammy Hagar, Tate McCragae, The Offspring, Tim McGraw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today! AXS.com. Do you remember Vine? It changed the internet forever and it vanished in its prime. I'm Benedict Townsend and this is Vine, six seconds that changed the world. The untold story of genius, betrayal and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive. From overnight stars to the fall
Starting point is 02:45:13 that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. When your car is making a strange noise, no matter what it is, you can't just pretend it's not happening. That's an interesting sound. It's like your mental health. If you're struggling and feeling overwhelmed, it's important to do something about it. It can be as simple as talking to someone
Starting point is 02:45:41 or just taking a deep calming breath to ground yourself. Because once you start to address the problem, you can go so much further. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have resources available for you at loveyourmindtoday.org. of athletes, which is bad, which comes in the time where one was all dying from presented with these people. I have come from a time and place where families didn't have any primary doctors. The only way that you saw a doctor in a hospital was to do a broken arm or broken leg
Starting point is 02:46:20 and you got hit by a car. Now, there's no such thing as presented sentence. Many folks are justified and worked hard to get us to a place where we can have halfway deep again. We still are working to make sure we run under the sentence. But before we can get there, the school president and second-year power
Starting point is 02:46:42 understand that once the people elect you, that you can use your executive power to do whatever you want. We can rein him in. And somehow we can get him to invest in him. He's going to be the criminal. The fact of the matter is, the President of the United States has a lot of power. And that executive power is being used now to make sure that he takes care of the people in this country and gives them the tax breaks that they all want.
Starting point is 02:47:16 You saw them at the inauguration standing with him proudly saying, now we're in charge. And we're going to do whatever we need to do to make sure that all of this government money is not going to those people. Those who are they talking about? They're talking about us. They're talking about poor people. They're talking about people who work every day, who make minimum wages and low wages.
Starting point is 02:47:44 They're talking about people, some of whom vote for them in rural communities that don't even know who's undermining them. We know, and we fight. I'm mad as hell. And I want to tell you, it's not just about being here today. Of course, I'm not going to vote for the bill. But we've got to be on the street.
Starting point is 02:48:03 We've got to be fighting in the way that the civil rights people thought us to fight. We've got to organize. We've got to get out there. The young people are interested. We have got to help them to understand. When they understood what happened up in Minneapolis, Black Lives Matter came alive.
Starting point is 02:48:23 They were on the streets of America. We need them on the streets now. And so we don't know what's going to happen tonight. We don't know when the rule is going to come up. We don't know whether the rule is going to pass. We know that there are some members, both on the Republican side for the most part. The Democrats are all together. We have a wonderful leader in Hockey Jeffries who kept the Democrats together in this Congress. And we all voted against this bill when it went through the House. It got to the Senate, they don't know which end is up. And now they've got some over there who have found out that their constituents are finding out that they have buyers remorse. They didn't know when they voted for him that it meant them too. And so some of them are begging for us on this side to now bail them out. We
Starting point is 02:49:18 need four votes, as Miss Bailey said, just four votes. But I want you to know we've got some scared intimidated folks over there who's so worried about their primary well let me tell you about our primary our primary know when we're working with you that's right I promise no when we're fighting and nobody with no big amount of money can take us out if we're doing the people's business. So, that's what's important to this country, to understand all the people and help the people to understand and to educate the people about what this government is and what it's all about. I want to tell you, Trump is in office and his co-president, Elon Musk, and they got together and decided that the way to give that tax pay was to get rid of
Starting point is 02:50:07 so many employees doing all of this work that they don't need to do because the people they're doing it for don't deserve it anyway. Well, I want to tell you, I think they cheated in order to win in the first place. Right? Talk about it. I want to tell you, I am not intimidated by anybody. Anytime. Anyplace. Anywhere. And so, it is because of the strength of our conviction that we are going to win in the final analysis.
Starting point is 02:50:37 That's right. If we don't get this vote tonight, we are going to win because we are going to fight harder. We are going to help people to understand what has happened. And understanding what has happened when you didn't know that the president had this kind of power is going to give you power. And never again should we confront it. Be confronted with a president of the United States who's using the executive powers to do what this honored lowdown dirty, cruel man is doing. And so we hope that there are enough for votes, as Ms. Baby said, we hope there are four votes
Starting point is 02:51:10 who will finally get some strength and say, sorry, Mr. President, we just can't give it to you. But we don't know whether that's going to happen or not. And I know a lot of people are praying that that will happen. I'm going to try to pray. I'm going to really try. praying that that will happen. I'm gonna try to pray. I'm gonna really try But in addition to that, I'm going to continue the fight. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm 86 years old And guess what I got strength at 8.12. Oh my god!
Starting point is 02:51:49 I will never stop. Yes! As a matter of fact, I'm going to live till I'm about 110. Come on! OK? That's so good. That's so good. Come on!
Starting point is 02:52:00 All right? Nobody can stop you. Come on here! Nobody can stop you. Nobody can stop you! Ladies and gentlemen, we hope they do the right thing up there. But, we don't know. And if they don't, we will not stop fighting anyway. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:52:15 Applause Time is over, next team, water. Applause Thank you. That was wonderful. Good for for me for all the members. What we're going to do is hear from some young people, but we know members have busy schedules. If they interview you have to leave. You have business.
Starting point is 02:52:35 You're going to, you're going to? Okay. And that's not nice. The members are going to let the young people take a seat. Come on, y'all. Come on, you young people. That's what they had. They want to hear from you. nice and good members gonna let the young people take a seat. Come on y'all, come on you young people.
Starting point is 02:52:46 That's what they did. They want to hear from you. Alright. I want y'all to talk. I'm not y'all. We're also, folks, and we're streaming all over the country. People are watching this everywhere. There's a larger crowd watching than it may be here and that's important now
Starting point is 02:53:11 congresswoman is giving the young staff permission to cuss on the Capitol grounds amen all right so let's go let's start here since I'm on this. I'm also gonna hear from Families USA and LDF. We appreciate them being here. So young people, we wanna hear how this, while you're here and how this personally affects you. Be sure to say your name and where you're from. Hello everyone, my name is Caleb Hall. I'm from New Orleans, Louisiana. I'm a rising sophomore at Yale University.
Starting point is 02:53:50 I'm here today because I'm also serving in Congresswoman Lauren Underwood's office. I'm on the receiving end of countless phone calls from constituents worrying about everything that has gone on, from older people worrying about their Medicare and Medicaid being cut off to the younger people just worrying about other batches, single mothers, my mother is a single mother herself. Living under a single mother's petal is really has been really intense. At certain times
Starting point is 02:54:19 we've had we've had snap benefits and I could not imagine like living in a household where this would not be available to us. So I'm just, I hope the Republicans give me four votes. I hope four of us can be strong enough and condemn this administration and everything that's going on if it's necessary. We're living in a very, very amazing time to continue to be amazing. to continue to be amazing. Yes! Thank you. Hello everyone, my name is Jonathan McGee. I'm from Los Angeles, California, specifically the 43rd district of the congressional district under Congresswoman Maxine Waters.
Starting point is 02:54:57 And I'm here today as a rising sophomore at Yale University, and I am a CCF intern as well. And we are living in a time where we cannot allow the administration I'm a CCF intern as well. We are living in a time where we cannot allow the administration here today to impact us in the way that they are and taking vital programs away from the people of America. I personally have experienced where my grandpa is on Medicare and he is currently bed bound in a nursing facility in the middle of the valley in California and we do not know what is going to happen to him after everything that has been going on with this administration and with the votes that have been happening
Starting point is 02:55:32 and everything in between the votes that have just been going on. So we need to mobilize and continue having places like this where we're able to talk about what is going on in America and how we can protect the lives of people everywhere, regardless of where they're from, from rural counties, from urban areas and everything that's changed. It's very important, and that is why I'm here. Listen, the two constituents from all over the place that live in rural communities that are suffering
Starting point is 02:56:03 from different places and different hospital like conditions medical conditions that are hurting them day in and day out and we do not know what will happen to rural hospitals they are gone we do not know what's going to happen if staff and other benefits that are happening in impact across America are taken away. 17 million Americans are going to be at risk for several programs. We cannot let this happen. We need to be fighting and we need to make sure we mobilize. Good evening. I am Charles Hoover. I am a member of the State Student Association as well as president of the UMass and WHP chapter. And I'm here today because as a voice for students across the country, you can't cut out, you can't raise the price of student plus loans and parent plus loans. You can't privatize that. Because if you privatize that, it leads us vulnerable to private lenders or sharks who will
Starting point is 02:57:13 do anything they can just to have 30 years paying off student loans. And I'm here because education is the right, I believe education is the right for all. Wherever you come from, education is the right, education is the right for all. No matter where you come from, I'm here from St. Louis, Massachusetts. I don't believe I would ever be here outside the Capitol, but I'm here because I'm a student of history. And today is the 64th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act being signed into law, and also the birthday of the late Supreme Court Justice, Thurgood Marshall. So I think today is a day of history and a day of reckoning. And history will remember who those four Republicans are
Starting point is 02:57:51 if they sign and say no to the big, beautiful, big, ugly bill. But if they go along with their party, history will remember them as well, and history will remember what Donald Trump is doing and has done for this country. Interaction or fake election or fraudulent election, history will remember and that's why I'm here. Let me just say since our brother mentioned Thurgood Marshall in the Civil Rights Act, today is also the 100th birthday of Megha Evers.
Starting point is 02:58:23 And today is also going on the same day the 100th birthday of Patrice Lamone. So this is a freedom Friday day. Amen. Hi, my name is Chloe Farxton and I am here from a small town in Alabama. I attend the University of Alabama. If you ask me why I'm here, I would say I'm here because somebody has to speak up, somebody has to advocate, somebody has to make change. If we all go along with this idea of selfishness of not looking out for the people that could not speak up for themselves, who would help us? No one will. 40% of Medicaid is children. If they can't sympathize with children,
Starting point is 02:59:10 do you think they can sympathize with others? No. We have to advocate for ourselves. As black people, as minorities, and everybody else, not even just minorities, this bill will impact the entire nation. It's something that if it passes, you will tell the difference when you wake up the next morning. So make sure that you help to be the change, to be the positive impact and not the negative.
Starting point is 02:59:38 Thank you. Hello, my name is Joseph. I'm from North Lafayette, Nevada. I'm a fellow at the University of Pittsburgh. I'm going to be working for the Stoke-O-the-Wool. When you come here, you earn the efforts to advocate on behalf, not just of the PPCF, but of our country. I'd be remiss if I were to go into this information without properly talking about my personal story. I have a son who is a GOP immigrant who is in a very
Starting point is 03:00:12 good position. He's only 19, for the hope of a better life. Around my upbringing and my upbringing, my parents underwent a great struggle to bring my mom and my sister up in a way that was considered to be marriage-free. It brought a new world and a new community, a multi-cultural mixture, and had all the things that I believe in American democracy and society to have. Today, in this bill, the Professional Health and Community Administration
Starting point is 03:00:41 will have to undo and undermine the very principles that constitute the community that I love so much. Democracy does die in darkness. We believe that everyone, to be part of the representative, engaging within their government and their institutions to ensure that their voices are properly heard for the forthcoming vote. The vote tomorrow will be more than just
Starting point is 03:01:01 for the Court of Condemnation bill. It will be written on the principles that constitute our American community. To the mothers who rely upon food stamps to feed their children, to the young women in Las Vegas who rely upon Medicaid, and to her and her grandmother, to the young ideal American boy who, to this day, still looks to live in America,
Starting point is 03:01:22 the question the world has to offer. We're able to get this bill, and this is of course coming as a vote for our democracy and the integrity of the United States. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:01:34 Thank you. Thank you. Good evening everyone, and thanks for guys for being here. My name is Laura Mason. I am from Baltimore, Maryland. I attend the lovely Morgan State University. And mine is also a personal antidote. Growing up, my family relied on San Tene,
Starting point is 03:01:50 we relied on SNAP. A lot of the fresh produce that I have was because of the benefits that we received from SNAP. But Baltimore is one of the most, honestly one of the most poverty stricken cities, the majority black cities, we suffer from food deserts. I look at a food desert now, even just being on board with the state university campus.
Starting point is 03:02:08 So I've seen what lack of food access does, not only to students, but to families, to individuals. And I've experienced it. Just moving along in my story, I moved out of my house at 16. You know, at 16, you don't know anything. I know I didn't know anything. So that meant that in order to receive healthcare,
Starting point is 03:02:27 I have to rely on Medicaid and I still do to this day. So I am one of the people who will be impacted by this bill and the event that it goes through. And because I was on TAP, because I received free lunch, those are the reasons why I was able to attend college. I got a few waivers because I was able to rely on that benefit. I was able to attend college. I got a few waivers because I was able to rely on that benefit. I was able to attend Borgman State University on a full ride because I had the resources that I needed in order to obtain an education.
Starting point is 03:02:54 I know a lot of students, especially a lot of young black children, have lost their jobs without opportunity. So I'm here to advocate. I would say I'm here to advocate not only for myself but for my community, for my sisters and brothers, for the people who were going to witness like me have been to speak up, for my immigrant sisters and brothers,
Starting point is 03:03:11 for my people who have experienced helmet insecurity like I have. I'm here for everyone and I'm proud to be. This is what we're here for. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:03:26 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:03:42 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My peers of how impactful this bill would be on all of our lives. We can share a little bit about me, my family moved here in 2004. I'm so happy you can tell today. It was Medicaid, it was Medicare. It was established in this country. It gave us peace of mind knowing that we had food to eat, knowing that we had our central services taken
Starting point is 03:04:05 care of, that we could engage in our education. It was SNAP benefits that supported me through college, knowing that I could focus on classes, that I could focus on my education and not worry about what I had to eat at the end of the day. I want my story and my testimony to be one that is representative of many across the United States who without this support they wouldn't be able to establish themselves in a new country. Education has been the great equalizer in our society. Our ancestors have fought long and hard for our educational rights.
Starting point is 03:04:41 We're all proud to be here today, to be pursuing our education, so that we may fight for the generation that follows, and amongst our peers as well. So I would just be remiss to say that, to say that I'm not proud and honored to be here, and just thank you for letting me share my story. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 03:04:59 Yes. I'm back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening everyone, my name is Rylan Rowe and I'm from Whitfield, Mississippi. I also attend Southern University at the Portia and Annabell College at HBCU. Being from Mississippi, I am a CBCF intern and representative of the Ben and Thompson
Starting point is 03:05:17 District, which is Mississippi's second congressional district. It's one of the poorest congressional districts inside of the United States. We have a bunch of residents who rely on Medicaid and Medicare. As a student who attends an HBCU, as a student who receives a pilgrim, as a student who is a part of the United States Army and who just hit five years serving, choosing to serve in a country that he believes in, a bunch of black veterans will be affected by this bill. This bill would now require students to take 15 credit hours to receive full paragraph. We know a bunch of students cannot take 15 credit hours because they have to take care of their auntie, their grandmother, their mother, their father.
Starting point is 03:05:53 Republicans lost all human decency. All human decency in all factors. Thank you. Thank you. I am so privileged to be amongst these great young emerging leaders as well as those. That's amazing. Give them applause as well as with the heroes from the Congressional Back Caucus earlier, folks that I have looked up to for my career. My name is Anthony Wright. I'm the executive director of Families USA, the longtime national healthcare consumer advocacy organization. I'm the executive director of Families USA, the long-time national healthcare consumer
Starting point is 03:06:28 advocacy organization, originally from the Bronx, New York. I will tell my own story. I'll tell the Families USA story of working for over 40 years on the cause of trying to get everybody access to the care and coverage that they need, whether it's through Medicaid, the Child Health Insurance Program, and yes, the seminal righteous fight for the Affordable Care Act. And that is a little bit of what we're fighting about now because the bill that we're talking about, the big bad, the a bill is a is a bill that would undo health coverage more than any other any other bill or piece of
Starting point is 03:07:12 legislation in the history of the country it is if we if the Affordable Care Act was the biggest step forward Medicaid Medicare Act and the Affordable Care Act this is the biggest withdrawal of coverage. And so I'm here to support our good friends from the Congressional Black Caucus and other representatives who are voting no on this bill because of the harm it will do to coverage, to costs, to care, and to community. In terms of coverage, 17 million Americans will be pushed or priced out of coverage, both public and private coverage, both Medicaid and Marketplace, from things like additional paperwork burdens, having
Starting point is 03:07:54 to be applied every year, to work reporting requirements, to just the increasing costs of coverage. The increased costs will be felt by millions more, whether it's increased premiums that people will start to face this fall, to increased cost sharing for people on Medicaid, to increased premiums because as more people fall off the coverage, then the rest of the people are in a smaller and sicker pool, which means premiums go up.
Starting point is 03:08:21 And then the things that cut our care, which are the direct attacks on cuts on the way that states finance their Medicaid programs, things called provider taxes or state-directed payments. But that means less money for the hospital or the clinics near you, and especially for those places where Medicaid is the number one budget line item, the primary payer, nursing homes, maternity wards, and rural hospitals in particular. And then finally, community. This bill specifically attacks certain communities, whether women in their reproductive health with the defunding Planned Parenthood, whether it's specific
Starting point is 03:08:54 legal immigrants who are here, who are currently child seekers, that are specifically targeted in this bill. And just in general, when you cut, one of the studies my organization did was that if you, is that the comparison of states that expanded Medicaid and states that didn't, that actually has a huge impact on maternal mortality for everybody, but especially for communities of color. And so this bill has dramatic cascading effects, not just on the people who will lose their coverage, not just the people who will see their coverage, their cost rise, but not just everybody on Medicaid, all 80 million Americans, but on literally everybody and the healthcare system that we all depend on.
Starting point is 03:09:36 And that's why it's so essential that four Republican members see the light and vote no tonight. And if they don't, then we need to make sure that every time those consequences happen over the next few months, the next few years, they recognize that it's because of this vote that people lost their coverage, people saw their costs rise,
Starting point is 03:09:57 people saw their services scale back in even some key institutions, like hospitals and clinics close. So please, vote no. To all everybody in there. Thank you very much. Thank you, Anthony. We're going to hear from one more young person.
Starting point is 03:10:14 One more youth. And your brother mentioned 3rd of March's birthday. This is the organization that he led, the Legal Defense Fund. Demetri McClain, give her a round of applause. I am so honored to be here with these young people. Give them up, give them a hand. It is auspicious that we are here on Thurgood Marshall's birthday. I am Demetri McLean, Director of Policy at the Legal Defense Fund.
Starting point is 03:10:38 We are a non-profit, non-partisan organization. Okay, we are the premier racial justice legal organization in this country started by Thurgood Marshall 85 years ago this year. And so what we do at LDF is that we fight for the humanity and the dignity of black communities. And let me tell you something, this bill is not about the humanity or dignity of black communities. And let me tell you something, this bill is not about the humanity or dignity of black communities. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
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Starting point is 03:13:49 from NHTSA and the Ad Council. Black people from Louisiana, Mississippi. And this work that we do, either through education, research, organizing, policy advocacy, we meet a lot of people. One of the things that we're working on right now has to do with water equity, right? Food, shelter, water, these are the basics. We're not talking about thriving, we're just talking about surviving. And so we're working with families,
Starting point is 03:14:23 elderly families in the South, right? Families with disabilities in the South, families with children in the South who do not have clean water, or the bills are so high that they can't keep the roof over their heads because we all know what? That the rent is too what?
Starting point is 03:14:40 Damn high. So we're talking about survival issues here, OK? We're talking about health. We're talking about taking food out of these grandparents who are on Medicare and Medicaid who need the SNAP to take care of the grandchild who's in the Title I school. My children were in the Title I school. And let me tell you something.
Starting point is 03:14:58 Every Friday, the nonprofits would line up to bring boxes of food, and those families were in line. But guess what? There are not enough churches and nonprofits to get us out of this at this moment. Okay? So this bill I spent all morning all day walking up and down Rayburn building, the Cannon building, as well as Longworth. Try to convince people to vote no because this bill is not about humanity or dignity. So what can you do? You can call 202-224-3121 and say vote no.
Starting point is 03:15:31 Okay. Thank you. Woo! Meacham McCain available here, give her a round of applause. Let's give all these young people a round of applause. We've got one more speaker here from Wynn with Black Men. How is this affecting black men?
Starting point is 03:15:45 Not some, this is the 30th anniversary of the Million Man Mark. And it seems as though we've gone backwards. Our brother Khalil will talk to us about how this legislation affects black men. Khalil Thompson, give him a round of applause. Thank you for your remarks. I am honored to be in such a esteemed audience here.
Starting point is 03:16:04 I'm young at heart, with you right here in front of me heart, but no excited to be here with you all here this evening. I have an amazing eight year old CEO who is home, hopefully almost on her way to sleep. But I am worried about what her future is going to be. Not only does she have less rights than her mother had today, not only is she concerned about her classmates, whether or not ICE is going to come into her school or take away her teachers or anyone that she may know, but every single day, and this bill is an encapsulation of that, worried about that the America that she wants to live in is no longer going to be that one of dreams that she can achieve.
Starting point is 03:16:40 And so I, as her dad, want to make sure that we can fight every single day. So that's why we at Women Black Men and partnering with other organizations and young leaders that are here today and our CBC members in a non-partisan way are coming out saying we have to do every single thing that we can. We've been citing a study that came out in 2013 that says 70% of black fathers participate in their child's lives either in changing a diaper, bathing or feeding on a daily basis. While they may not live in the home, that debunks the myth that they're not a part of their child's life on a daily, consistent basis. 2.5 million of them, as opposed to 1.7 million of them, are actively participating in an
Starting point is 03:17:16 after-school activity. And so we want to make sure that brothers know that this isn't just about an amorphous issue that you're hearing about a bill in D.C. that's going to vote. This is going to impact your lives. This is a disinvestment in our community. All of the things that we've talked about tonight, whether it's Head Start, whether it's SNAP benefits, whether it's Pell Grants, that's an investment in our communities for the long run. This bill is a disinvestment in taking away from our communities. And so we want to make sure that you know that there are four or five members of Congress that we are actively trying to make sure they hear our voices,
Starting point is 03:17:50 that they vote no on this bill. We know we have a majority of Democrats and those that believe in the ideals that we believe in our community, they're going to vote no on this bill, but we need to make sure that we press harder over the next 24 hours. We know members are not leaving tonight. So we know they're staying. We know they were out here with us earlier. They're going back to do the work. We want to continue to put that pressure on.
Starting point is 03:18:11 I have two parents who are young at heart, but their knees creak like me when they get up these days. And so I want to make sure that they have the benefits that are available to them. I have a brother and a sister who want to make sure, just like me, and for every single family that they can have access to affordable health care. So this fight isn't just for us or just for our community. I think many of us that are either watching this online or hearing us right now, this isn't just a black or brown issue.
Starting point is 03:18:38 This is an American issue. We need you to understand that this disinvestment is going to drastically hurt all understand that this disinvestment is going to drastically hurt all Americans, not just black and brown Americans, not just black men, not just black sisters, not just our brown sisters, brown brothers and sisters. This is going to hurt America as a large disinvestment. So I'm excited that we got this together in an hour and a half this afternoon and pulled this off. But we're going to continue this fight. I know our fellow brethren and sisters, my big sister Angela Rye over at State of the People and others who've been leading the marathon that is still going on right now. I think they're talking, they're making calls.
Starting point is 03:19:15 Dom over at the NAACP, they did a power hour earlier this afternoon, I think around three o'clock, and I had 250 volunteers on the line making phone calls and other organizations And I had 250 volunteers on the line making phone calls and other organizations just as well as leading this fight. So I'm excited for what this is going to be. I hope we won't be disappointed at the end. But we just got to convince four people to vote. Time for real black man and to close us out. Executive director of the CBC is gonna come and give us a state of play where things are right now, where we're on the process. Let's give Vince Evans a round of applause.
Starting point is 03:19:48 Vince Evans, all the hard work that he does, putting us together and telling us what to do and all of that. Y'all give it up for that congressional black talk. And the chairwoman who is still here, that part is still on the wall. She's literally sitting on the wall. So I just want to say on behalf of our 62 members, thank you for being here. is still here, is that Clark is still on the wall. She's literally sitting on the wall. So I just want to say on behalf of our 62 members of the CBC, earlier this week,
Starting point is 03:20:12 we saw the CBC members of the Senate, four of them, two bad brothers and two bad sisters, they held the line, let's give it up for them. And now all the 57 members are gonna fight until as long as this fight lasts. So just so we know as we close out from this vote being open, being the longest open vote in the history of the House. And that's because of the pressure that y'all are applying. They can't get the vote. The vote is still open. And so we don't care if it stay open for another couple days. Keep it open. The House Freedom Caucus has just announced.
Starting point is 03:21:06 They don't want to vote tonight. That's because of the pressure of you, the young people, these members. So we don't, as Khalil said, know what we know right now is the dome light is on. The people of ill will are inside the building Trying to make this the biggest cut to snap in the history of the country We know that the people of ill will are inside the building trying to make this the largest cut To Medicaid and the history of the country We know that the ill will people are inside of the building trying to make this the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the country.
Starting point is 03:21:48 We know the people of ill will are inside the building trying to add $4 trillion to the debt. And the people of good will are like in that car sitting on the wall. The people of good will like Dr. Chis, are sitting here on the wall. We know the people of Goodwill, like the CBCF interns, are sitting on the wall. The people of Goodwill, like FLDF, are sitting here on the wall. The people of Goodwill, like our friends from Protect Medicaid, are sitting on the wall. And we will sit on this wall for the next hour, the next two, three, four,
Starting point is 03:22:26 five, six hours, so long as we have to because this fight is important. There are people who are literally tonight around the country counting on the people that are here. So y'all stay up, go home, get your rest, don't go to sleep. As I have said in recent weeks, black people in America need to sleep in shifts. When that clock is asleep, her ED is up. When I'm asleep, that clock is up.
Starting point is 03:22:57 Because the people of ill will, they seem to never sleep. So the people of good will have got to be up sleeping in shifts and making sure that we got each other's back. Y'all stay with us. The Congressional Black Caucus will continue to fight. Madam Chair, come on up here. The sister from Brooklyn and take us home. Brooklyn is in the house. Let me thank all of the press that has come out tonight. We wanted to continue what we started early this morning. We knew that it was important that our people see us out here fighting. Fighting.
Starting point is 03:23:36 And this fight will be on a continuum. Because as my ED has said, when we're asleep, we're going to fight. fighting. And this fight will be on a continuum. Because as my ED has said, when we're asleep, they're up working. And we can't sleep until we get the victory. And so tonight is just the beginning or the continuum of the struggle that we have had as a people to make sure that we liberate, lift up, and move our people forward. This wealth transfer will only last as long as we allow it to.
Starting point is 03:24:16 So let us get our gang face on. Let us be clear as Auntie Maxine said, we got these streets. Let us get out here. Let's educate, let's inform, and let's make sure that in the midterm election, these people remember just what they did to people of goodwill.
Starting point is 03:24:39 God bless you. God keep you young people. Y'all making it happen. I'm so proud of you. And we will continue. This is a movement, not a moment. Yeah! Woo!
Starting point is 03:24:56 Sorry, folks. This is Capitol. Congressional Black Caucus call this... You should becus, called this, uh, you should be able to hear me. Yeah, you should be able to hear me, guys. Yeah, you should be able to hear me. I got my meters, thank you very much. Alright, so, again, so the Congressional Black Caucus concluded this emergency rally here
Starting point is 03:25:17 at the United States Capitol. As we said, since we represented underwood, told us the Republicans have held the vote open since 130. Right now it is nine and ten. They're going on eight hours holding this vote early. They do not have the votes necessary as it says the CBC said all they need are four Republicans. Now understand the House passed a bill that went to the Senate. The Senate passed their own bill and so what this vote is this vote is on the Senate bill. So if this vote fails, that means that the House then may have to do is make their own adjustments, pass another bill. If that bill differs from the
Starting point is 03:25:54 Senate, it has to go back to the Senate. And then if they don't change the House bill and vote, then it moves forward. But, and what Republicans are doing are using the reconciliation process. The reconciliation process is a very specific process. That's how the Florida CARE Act was passed. This requires not 60 votes in the Senate, but 51 votes, a simple majority. And so that's why the Senate Parliamentarian
Starting point is 03:26:19 ruled against a number of provisions in the bill because he did not comply with the reconciliation process. So that's what's going on right now. And so Democrats are trying to put as much pressure on those 35 vulnerable Republicans who are gonna be in competitive seats in 2026. You have these budget deadhawks on the House, the Freedom Caucus.
Starting point is 03:26:42 They actually don't like the Senate bill because they say it's not tough enough. And so this battle is going on, the negotiations, Speaker Mike Johnson, Donald Trump, JD Vance, they're trying to get these Republicans in line. They cannot afford. Right now there are two hardcore Republicans on the House who said they will not vote for the Senate bill, so that means they really need two more votes to scuttle this particular bill. So we're gonna continue this coverage. We'll see if they stick around tomorrow.
Starting point is 03:27:11 If they stick around, a lot of them wanna go back home for July 4th. And so we'll be covering this. We'll be live tomorrow on Roller Martin Unfiltered. I'll be in New Orleans at Essence Fest, but we will be live with this particular show. So folks, that's it for us. here on Roller Mark, Unfiltered. Again, let me thank our panel, Scott, Rebecca, as well as Matt.
Starting point is 03:27:31 Let me thank Jasmine Simpkins, as well as Candace Kelly, for their coverage of the Deadly Trial. Folks, don't forget, this is the work that we do right here. I mean, listen, we were in the studio. I got the text message at 5.56 that they were doing this here. And so we had to completely recalibrate. We had to scurry, grab a GoPak and race out here to cover this. And so this is why when I talk about the money that you contribute to our show, when you
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