#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Mo. GOP Map Targets Black Voters, Pressley Demands Powell Answer on Black Jobs, Pastor vs. MAGA

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

9.9.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: MO GOP Map Targets Black Voters, Pressley Demands Powell Answer on Black Jobs, Pastor vs. MAGAMissouri Republicans have passed a proposed congressional map that could... expand the GOP's razor-thin majority in the U.S. House. Congressional Black Caucus Chair Yvette Clarke will join us to discuss the racist efforts aimed at undermining Black and minority representation in Congress.Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley is demanding that Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell address the rising unemployment rate among Black women. She'll be here to explain why Black women's employment is a "key metric of the health of the U.S. economy."A New York pastor calls out MAGA Christians.  His message: "Don't confuse them with real Christians." Racist conservative commentator Charlie Kirk is blaming young white women for the "West's fertility collapse." Tonight's Black Star Network Marketplace segment is for art lovers.  The award-winning artist, DomoINK, who created the James Baldwin piece in our studio, will explain how her work brings representation to people of color.#BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseThis Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing.Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV.The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:24 I'm here at the Equal Justice Institute in Montgomery, Alabama. and so we are here in their Legacy Museum annex here for a meeting of black strategies. I'll tell you more about that later in today's show. In Missouri, Republicans have passed a racially gerid matter congressional map that removed the congressional district of Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver. We'll talk with Congresswoman Yvette Clark, share the congressional black caucus about this attack on black members of Congress. Also in today's show, Congresswoman, again, President of Massachusetts,
Starting point is 00:01:58 She is demanding that Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell addressed the rising unemployment rate of black women. She will join us on today's show as well. A New York pastor, Abyssinian Baptist Church, is calling out Maga Christians will show you exactly what he has to say. And I keep telling y'all, these white Republicans are so focused and concern about white births, white fertility rates. And so wait until I show you a conversation that Maga Republican Charlie Kurt had. the lar ingram on fox news also folks in our marketplace segment art lovers you're going to enjoy today's segment folks there's a lot we're going to talk about it's time to bring the funk on roland martin on filter on the black star network let's go he's got whatever the miss he's
Starting point is 00:02:46 on it whatever it is he's got the scoop the fact the fine and when it blips he's right on time sports to news to politics with entertainment just for kicks he's rolling yeah it's uncle ro royale yeah it's rolling martin yeah yeah yeah rolling with rolling now he's punky's fresh he's real the best you know he's rolling Martin. Hey, folks. I am here in Montgomery, Alabama for a series of meetings the last couple of days. And we're here at the Equal Justice Institute. This is their legacy annex.
Starting point is 00:03:48 They've actually opened up their legacy museum. And they have, of course, also, an amazing memorial dedicated to those people who have been lynched as well as a sculpture park. And I wanted to purposely show you this here. So this is literally where we are. And so I'm going to step out of the way. So you see what this says on the wall here. You're standing on a site where enslaved people were warehoused. And this was an eight-year effort for them to get this property, to get this.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And so if you come to downtown Montgomery, they have this. facility, the Legacy Museum, like I said, there's a sculpture park. So it's a whole lot that's here in Montgomery. And so we appreciate Brian Stevenson and the staff allowing us to be able to meet here the last couple of days. And so we certainly are standing on hollowed ground, again, where enslaved people, people who, you know, thousands of slaves that came through Alabama coming through this particular place as well.
Starting point is 00:04:46 In fact, they have a sign here that shows by 1860. Mobile County. You had some 11,000 enslaved people of African descent here in Montgomery, some 21,710. And Nactus, Mississippi was 14,000. And then New Orleans was 14,000. So you literally had more, the population of enslaved black people in major trade centers. This was one of the major trade centers, Montgomery, Alabama. So just wanted to share that history with you. Folks, let's talk about what's happening with racial, gerrymandering. all across the country. Today, the state Senate in Missouri pass a racially gerrymandered map that dismantles the congressional seat of Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver. Now, in Missouri, there are 10 members of Congress, seven, there are eight Republicans, two Democrats. One Democrat, Emmanuel Cleaver in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Wesley Bell is in St. Louis. And so they are destroying the district of Emmanuel Cleaver to give them a seven to one advantage. And so that's what, That's what is happening right now. So you see what's going on across, my apologies, they have that right now, it's eight members, six Republicans, two Democrats. This would give them a seven-to-one majority. This is a statement released by Democratic Chair Ken Martin.
Starting point is 00:06:06 He said Missouri House Republicans following the lead of Donald Trump to rig the state's congressional maps is corruption at its worst. Missouri House Democrats fought back every step of the way, including representatives read folks and Dean who host a sent-in since Thursday to stand up for Missouri voters. The American people are fed up with Donald Trump and his Republican circus. Costs are rising. He said cost are rising. The economy is tanking and its signature legislation is a massive transfer of wealth from the bottom to the top. No wonder Trump is trying to rig the game. He knows Republicans can't win elections on their abysmal record. Democrats will continue to fight back every step of the way and make no mistake. This fight in Missouri is not over. Journal, let's write down. Congresswoman,
Starting point is 00:06:51 Yvette Clark out of New York. She's the chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. Glad to have you back on the show. Congresswoman, what you're seeing right now is literally an arms race. We saw, of course, Republicans in Texas following the League of Donald Trump racially gerrymandered that state, getting rid of five Democratic districts, including two African Americans, one in Dallas, one in Houston. California Governor Gavin Newsom, he responded, saying that he would be changing the maps there. We, of course, in your home state, Governor Kathy Hockel says she'll be moving to do the example. exact same thing there. And so at some point, where does this end? Where do black voters, of course, are being impacted? Then, of course, we had that Supreme Court case that could very well wipe out half of the Congressional Black Caucus. And so I have been trying to tell people there's a massive effort to defund Black America, and there's a direct attack on black
Starting point is 00:07:42 representation in the United States as we speak. Absolutely. Well, first of all, thank you for having me rolling. And let me just correct something. They are actually eliminating four black congressional seats, actually five in Texas. It's the two seats held by Jasmine Crockett and Mark Visi in the four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Five in Texas, but two black, yes. Well, but there's also the two in the Houston area, the one that is represented by Congressman Al Green and the vacancy that was left vacant by the death of Sylvester Turner, so that we could lose four CBC members in this redistricting battle in Texas. And as you've rightly stated today, Unfortunately, the legislature in Missouri moved to redistrict Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver out of his seat in the Kansas City, Missouri area.
Starting point is 00:08:54 And we're seeing these moves across the nation at the behest of Donald Trump in red states where Republicans hold the majority in their legislative body. whether it's Indiana or Ohio, there has been this rush to a mid-decade redistricting that all in an effort to try to give the House of Representatives an advantage on the Republican side for the 26 elections. And we actually held a press conference today, Roland, to highlight. the numbers of CBC members that are impacted and are potentially impacted by what is taking place right now. Even in Louisiana, there is litigation about to commence because they, too, are moving. After having just gone through the process of expanding representation for black
Starting point is 00:10:02 voters in Louisiana, they have now backtracked after it was a Republican governor, Republican state legislature that expanded their map to include another Black Opportunity District. So this is all under the pressure and vice of Donald Trump. But there's a willingness on the part of these Republican state legislators to do his bidding all at the, unfortunately, at the demise of the representation of black communities across this country. And in Ohio, it's the Amelia Sykes seat, representative Amelia Sykes, which is not a majority black district, but represent the values of the people in Akron, Ohio in its environs, and they're trying to eliminate her seat as well.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Well, the question people are asking this, okay, how do they respond? What do they do? Look, we saw what happened in Tennessee. Republicans dismantled the congressional district in Nashville, literally splitting it into four congressional districts. So we see Republicans are doing there in Missouri. And so what do you say? How do the voters respond? And for me, what I keep saying is that for black voters, we have to.
Starting point is 00:11:34 maximize our vote, and we can't be simply in elections and voting at 35, 40, 45% of our capacity. Absolutely. Well, there are a couple of things. One, we need to register our disgust with what's taking place. If, you know, you are taking for granted the fact that you... In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job and my parakeet is missing. How is your day?
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Starting point is 00:12:53 Get your tickets today. AXS.com. You have someone representing you in Congress that is reflective of your lived experiences that is fighting and using their voice to amplify your aspirations and your desires, then you need to be outraged by what is taking place right now. It is very clear to us that the demise of the Republicans in these states is what they are running from. They know that they have passed some very unpopular bills, painful legislation that is now law and that they're going to pay a price for it. And so they're trying to get out ahead of that by gerrymandering
Starting point is 00:13:42 in a mid-decade and basically putting themselves in the majority so they think, you know, in perpetuity. And so we've got to fight back. Right now, there is a very important court case that is about to get started in Louisiana that will have implications across the United States because what we recognize is that this is not gerrymandering just for gerrymandering sakes. This is racially motivated gerrymandering. And that is clearly unconstitutional under Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. And so we've got to make sure that we're educating our folks, we're informing them, and that we are drilling down into the grassroots so that people understand what is at stake here. It's not just losing your voice, but it is trying
Starting point is 00:14:34 to rig the political system so that Republicans and MAGA in particular are in power in perpetuity. Well, here's the thing here. When you say we have to fight back, what I keep hearing people, what does that mean? What does that look like for us to fight back? Well, I think we can take a page out of the page of John Lewis and the foot soldiers, you know, of the civil rights movement. They are the ones. They paid in their blood. Bloody Sunday. Right to vote. And so here we are. With facing the specter of disenfranchisement on multiple levels, redistricting is just one tool that they've been using. But they're trying to eliminate. vote-by-mail. They're trying to restrict voter registration and erect barriers to the ballot
Starting point is 00:15:34 box. This is all in an attempt, again, to wrestle power out of the black community to empower our adversaries who clearly are racially motivated in their movements politically. And so we've got to meet fire with fire. And that looks like going into our communities on the ground, having our civil rights organizations, their affiliates, our, any organizations in our communities that are all about empowering our people need to make sure that they're educated, they're informed, that we motivate people. Because I know that there's so much cynicism out there. There is so much misinformation and disinformation being consumed in our community. community, that it's unfortunately to our own demise.
Starting point is 00:16:31 We know that the NAACP Legal Defense Fund will be in the courts, particularly in Louisiana. And when they're successful, that ultimately should have put a halt to all of the gerrymandering that's taking place, particularly in Texas, in Missouri, in Indiana, in Ohio. We need to ratchet up, you know, the volume of our dismay, our disgust, of what is taking place. And we need to be in protest mode. All right. Cosmoni, Van Clark, we appreciate you doing us on the show. Thanks a lot.
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Starting point is 00:18:25 Next, on the black table with me, Greg Carr. Immigrants lured off Texas streets and shipped to places like Martha's Vineyard and Washington, D.C. Believe it or not, we've seen it all before. Your people in the north, you're so sympathetic to black people. You take them. Sixty years ago, they called it the reverse freedom riots. Back then, southern governors shipped black people north with the false promise of jobs and a better life. It's a part of a well-known playbook being brought back to life.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So what's next? That's next on the Black Table, a conversation with Dr. Gerald Horn about this issue of the reverse freedom rise right here on the Black Star Network. My name is Lena Charles, and I'm from Apollucis, Louisiana. Yes, that is Zadico Capital of the World. My name is Margaret Chappelle. I'm from Dallas, Texas, Representative Urban Tribune. a game. It's me, Sherry, Shepard, and you know what you're watching. Roland Martin on Unfiltered.
Starting point is 00:19:39 All right, folks. Introduce to my pound, Dr. Mustafa Sontagalli, former senior advisor for environmental justice at the EPA, joining us out of D.C., Dr. Randy Bryant. She's entrepreneur, author, speaker, and creator of the truthing game out of Washington, D.C., Joe Richardson and civil rights attorney out of Los Angeles. Let me start with you, Joe. What we're seeing here, and I have been yelling and screaming and sounding this alarm for the longest. We are seeing a direct attack on every black institution in this country.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And we're going to keep saying this until black folks wake up and realize this. What MAGA Republicans are doing, they are angry with what is taking place in the last 60 years. And so they are attacking black politics. They're attacking black economics, they're attacking black academia, they're attacking black health agencies, they're attacking every single thing. This is a complete effort to defund black America. And people cannot act like this thing is normal. I mean, if I had to make a comparison, and I keep doing this, I mean, to be in this facility, the Equal Justice Institute, you're talking about Reconstruction, what we saw in the period of reconstruction in the aftermath is what we're seeing. right here. I've long said that the death of George Floyd marked the third reconstruction.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I kept warning people that this thing needs to have last at least 20 years, a minimum of 20 years to truly be effective. The first two were shortened. Well, guess what? The third were didn't even last as long as the first two. And so in the aftermath of a reconstruction period, there always was a vicious attack on African Americans. And after the first reconstruction, 1865 to 1877, you saw the attack on black folk representation while they ran every African-American out of Congress. What we are seeing right now is the same thing, a backlash, a vicious attack against Black America.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yeah, there's always a flipback with each and every one of these events that charts Black progress. And so here we are. again, right, after Barack Obama and then eventually George Floyd, and now you see this flip back going on again. And so they're trying to flip it all the way back. And meanwhile, back at the ranch, if we're not voting the way that we need to, then it gets more difficult. I mean, voting is the most important battle line here. The idea that, you know, and we feel like we're
Starting point is 00:22:20 talking like we're broken records here, that we've been. We've sacrificed blood, sweat, and tears for people to be able to vote, for our people to be able to vote. And the idea that someone could actually think that they're okay, black person, okay, despite the fact of not voting. And this is not regular chair, man, and you have some people saying, well, you know, the Democrats through this all the time, this and that and the other. Not only is it, you know, in the middle of the 10 years towards the census, but it is directly calculated towards. getting rid of black votes, black voices, particularly because, not only because black voices exist and they stand up for black people, but because black folks typically make the difference because of how well they vote together from a percentage standpoint between Democrats winning
Starting point is 00:23:14 and losing election. And so that's what they're trying to do. So, you know, I'll be in D.C. a couple of weeks and it'll be interested to see what's left of the African-American people. museum, what they're trying to take away, how they're trying to take away history, tell different stories. I'm sure it's amazing you're sitting where you are, Roland, because this is exactly the kind of thing that they want to treat like it doesn't exist. And so we do have to wake up, understand what it is. If a baby is giggling in the back seat, they're probably happy. If a baby is crying in the back seat, they're probably hungry. But if a baby is sleeping in the back seat, will you remember
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Starting point is 00:24:52 You keep filling it in. And at the same time, understand that attacks on constitutional rights involving any and everyone affect us all. Sure, we're focused. We ought to be focused on what is affecting us. But listen, if they can go, walk down the street, arrest this person, that point. person without charges, without constitutional basis, then that's bad news for all of us. We're going to have a congressman, Yana Presley, coming up next, talking about challenging the Federal Reserve when it comes to more than 300,000 black women losing their jobs. A little bit later on the show, we're going to have Congressman Al Green talking about access to capital and money flowing to tier one black banks. Randy, that's what people don't understand.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I don't think people really fully comprehend what our world will look like. When you talk about, you have what, some 67 members of the Congressional Black Caucus right now. If this Supreme Court, with the gerrymandering, okay, you're going to lose two in Texas. You're going to lose one in Missouri. That's three right there. They're trying to take out one in Ohio. Rhonda Santas ran through his maps that took out one of the districts in Florida. If the Supreme Court ruling, and look, we just saw a Supreme Court yesterday,
Starting point is 00:26:09 give the green light to racially profiling Latinos in the California, listen, if this Supreme Court says, yeah, you know what, we're balancing race-based districts, half of the congressional black caucus is wiped out. And all the people who love complaining about the CDC, it is, the CDC, that, oh, do you understand what will happen if you lose half of black members of Congress? That's what people have to fully comprehend what's going on. You know, yeah, I resist being an alarmist, but it's absolutely time to ring the alarm. I mean, we are being viciously attacked, and he is trying to ensure, or the whole Trumplicans
Starting point is 00:26:49 are trying to ensure that black people don't have a voice, that we have no representation, that we have no say-so, and that is absolutely scary. We see what's happening already as it is, where they are passing laws that allow them to completely discriminate against us. without any sort of due process. What I tried to tell people about yesterday's ruling, if they're saying that they can do race-based stops, nothing else, nothing else needs to make them want to go after somebody,
Starting point is 00:27:22 but someone's race or that they're speaking Spanish. If someone essentially does not look American, their very narrow view of what an American is, we absolutely should know that we are in danger. They will look at a black person and say, this black person doesn't look American or seems like a threat. And then when you go back to the gerrymandering, when they're saying, we think that we could lose
Starting point is 00:27:44 because they know black people. When we are united and fired up and focused, we get out there and vote. And so what they're saying is because they're losing, they could lose, they say, well, let's just change the rules. Let's just change the maps. And so our votes will get lost and anybody that represents us will be lost.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And so we're in big trouble if no one is fighting for us. There's no voices for us. So, yes, it is time to ring the alarm and for all of us to wake up and raise hell. You know, people out there could think we're playing. We're joking. Mustafa, I'm wearing this shirt. Don't blame me. But for the black woman, we are seeing the results of what happened when we elected this
Starting point is 00:28:33 thug-in-chief in how they are attacking every black institution. We find democracy in many of our communities across our country. These folks aren't playing, but they continue to play in your face, and folks just continue to allow it because they keep thinking, well, it can't get any worse. It can't happen to me. All of the things that help you to sleep at night, but the reality of the situation is, is that you are also on the chopping block. When I looked at the maps that they were doing today and the sets of actions that they continue to move forward on,
Starting point is 00:29:08 I was thinking to myself, this looks like a damn crime scene sketch, because what you continue to find is that they are literally taking their hands and strangling our communities. They are strangling the resources out of our communities. They're strangling the power out of our communities. They are strangling the future out of our communities. And people still will just sit back and say, well, maybe that's not going to happen. in any greater way. When they do these, when they do these maps,
Starting point is 00:29:36 here's the interesting thing. They're really giving y'all the middle finger. That's what they're doing. They're saying that I don't care, no matter what happens, we're going to make sure that black folks know that they're not welcome, that brown folks know that they're not welcome,
Starting point is 00:29:49 that Democrats know that they're not welcome. That's exactly what these sets of actions are sending a very clear message. So you're going to have to make a decision. Are you going to get up and get engaged? Are those folks who call themselves our allies actually going to show up and do some real work this time or you will blink and you will not find democracy but not just
Starting point is 00:30:08 you won't find democracy you're not going to have any rights and you're going to find yourself in a very dangerous and precarious situation in the not so distant future so folks can go to break we come back we're going to talk to congresswoman yana presley uh she is pressed to the case when it comes to the more than 300 000 black women who have lost jobs since january we'll have her next folks don't forget support the work that we do here at Roland Martin Unfiltered in the Black Star Network, join our Brain to Funk Fan Club. The goal is get 20,000 of our
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Starting point is 00:32:44 Me, Sherry, Shepard, and you know what you watch. You're watching Roland Martin. Unfielded. Folks, here's the conference on Al Green, as always, to the four African. Americans and black banks. Well, during a congressional hearing, he advocated on behalf of those blanks and banks saying they should be getting tier one funding. Here's what he had to say. Let me now recognize gentlemen from Texas, Mr. Green, for five minutes. Thank you, Madam Chair. I thank the ranking member or her comments and would associate myself with the comments of the ranking member. I would call to our attention the intelligence
Starting point is 00:33:30 that has been provided to me, indicating that there are 4,487 FDIC insured institutions. And it is my belief that less than 50 are black-owned. In fact, less than 40 a black-on. To be more accurate, less than 30 a black-on. to be even more accurate, less than 1% of black home. I'm interested in knowing how we can use this topic of funding access to acquire more black banks. I've been with friends who've started banks. It is not easy to acquire till one count.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Tier one capital. There's not a black bank in the country with $10 billion in tier one capital. Probably two exceed $1 billion. Probably two. Now, Mr. James, you're much more educated on these things than I, so correct me. Do we have more than two black banks
Starting point is 00:34:50 with tier one capital exceeding a billion dollars? Thank you for the question, Congressman Green. Actually, there are 25 black-owned institutions in the United States, and there are two that exceed $1 billion in total assets. So technically no, there are no institutions that are black-owned that have more than a billion dollars in Tier 1 capital. These are institutions that are just over a billion dollars in total assets. And the truth is this, we didn't get here because black people are not intelligent,
Starting point is 00:35:31 because they can't count, because they can't be educated, it's racism. So the question becomes, how do we overcome this racism so that black people can own banks and acquire capital? I don't have the answer, but I know. what has created the problem. And until we confront this, I'm not sure that we'll be able to resolve the issues associated with starting and maintaining black banks.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Mr. James, do you have any answer for me to help me understand how we can acquire more black banks and deal with the racism that still exists? Thanks again. I do want to acknowledge that in the last five, years, for the first time in American history, we have seen a convulsion in the United States economy, such as what happened during the pandemic, and actually not seeing a decline in African-American-owned institutions. Typically, you know, when you had the Great Depression or
Starting point is 00:36:39 the Great Recession, you would lose typically around half of the black-owned institutions would fail because they were undercapitalized. In the last five or six years, there's been more capital available, and so we've actually seen a slight uptick. So at the beginning of the pandemic, there were only 19 black-owned banks, and now there's 25. And so that's good news. I think it would be very helpful to, again, reduce that community bank leverage ratio to a smaller number, to increase the access for reciprocal deposits and other forms of liquidity so that you could have smaller institutions of all types, whether they serve urban and rural communities, whether they be black-owned or owned by anyone else,
Starting point is 00:37:26 where you can just encourage more competition and more different types of institutions. Regulatory reform is also important because if we can evolve regulatory regulation, we can have to have more institutions. I'm going to intercede because I have to close with this. Two things. The first is I think that we can do things to help all banks. But at some point, we will have to do something to help black people. We really will.
Starting point is 00:37:57 We didn't get here because we were unable to help ourselves. It wasn't because others wouldn't allow us to help ourselves. And the final thing is, are there no women who can do what you men do? I always pay attention to who's on these panels. All-male panel. But for this African-American, I assume you're African-American, you look like one to me. I don't know. But for the Democrats, we wouldn't have an African-American on the panel.
Starting point is 00:38:27 The gentleman's time has always expired. I yell back. Again, perfect example. What happens when we have black representation in Congress? One of the issues that we have been talking about, the more than 300,000 black women who've lost their jobs since Donald Trump went back into the Oval Office. And Congresswoman Ayanna Presley is demanding answers from Fed Chair, Jerome Powell. She joins us right now.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Congresswoman, glad to have you back on the show. So what demand are you making of the Fed chair? Roland, always good to be with you. The demand that I'm making of the chair is that the Fed do its job. It has a dual mandate, but for now, just speak to one part of that mandate. It's a statutory mandate, and that is to, you know, maximum full employment. and, you know, given the alarming rates and spike and unemployment across the board, but for black women in particular, who have always been the canaries in the coal mine when it comes to
Starting point is 00:39:29 our economy, the black women represent 12% of the federal workforce. That workforce, you know, had a, you know, a hammer taken to it. And so when you consider a reduction in force, mass firings, and with a focus on those agencies that black women dominate, housing and urban development, health and human services, USAID, Department of Education, and then you layer that with the defunding and the dismantling of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the private sector and that chilling effect and that rollback, not only do you see a lack of representation and black women being forced out of the private sector, but black women also dominate diversity, equity, and inclusion jobs. So this is devastating. Fifty-one percent of black women are the
Starting point is 00:40:21 primary breadwinners in their family, the primary caregivers. So this is a, we'll be devastating, you know, huge implications for black women, for the black family, and for black communities. And so you're talking about 300,000 black women whose livelihoods and lives have been disrupted. And if any other group were experiencing something as extreme as that, they would already be studying it. What I'm demanding of the chair in their statutory mandate for maximum employment, and given the 6.7, a rate of unemployment for black women is for them to analyze the data, to study it, to come up with a plan of action. And then the second part of it is the other...
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Starting point is 00:42:07 independence. And I'm calling on a chairman pal to be ten toes down and full-throated in his defense and support of Governor Lisa Cook, the first black woman to be in this role, because in doing that, you affirm the independence of the Fed because her firing is unlawful. So, why don't you send that to him and you give him a time frame to respond? Yes, and we'll be following up to see what happens with that. I mean, you know, listen, Roland, we're not just sitting around and waiting for answers. You know, we're going to keep applying the pressure here because this is of deep consequence to black women, to black families in black America, but again, to the economy writ large
Starting point is 00:42:54 because black women have always been the canaries in the coal mine. So this is a devastating metric of what is to come. And again, when you're talking about 300,000 families who've had their livelihoods and lives disrupted. I think for any other group, this would be a five alarm fire. And so we're going to keep the pressure on Chairman Powell and the Fed to honor that statutory dual mandate of maximum employment while also affirming their independence and being a full-throated in their defense of Governor Lisa Cook, who is the most recent black leader and black woman in the long line of baseless attacks against black leadership in this administration.
Starting point is 00:43:36 This hostile administration is giving obsessed. It is just anti-blackness on steroids everywhere we go. They are looking to decimate black wealth, to roll back black gains, to dilute the black voice, to disenfranchise our political power at every turn. You know, I was meeting with some allies recently, and I said, you know, we named the attacks on the immigrant community.
Starting point is 00:44:04 We name the attacks on the LGBTQ community. We name the attacks on women. I'm going to need you all to name the anti-black racism that is rampant in this administration and pull up in a meaningful way to confront it. Yes, you know, we are experiencing the harm disparately, and it is not indiscriminate. It is very precise.
Starting point is 00:44:25 It is very targeted. So any person of conscience should be linking arms with us and applying pressure in all the ways that we are currently. Questions from my panel? I'll start first with you, Mustafa. Congresswoman, it's good to see you. We know historically there are a number of actions that have been put in place all the way back to the Black Codes
Starting point is 00:44:52 and Jim Crow and the Freedman Bank collapse. How do we make sure that the investments that we need are actually there, but also the regulations to make sure there's real enforcement in that space. Well, you know, if you mean specifically to this, I mean, what I'm focused is a little bit of an echo, y'all, so just bear with me here. You know, the strategy in this moment is litigation. The harm is acute, and so that can be a frustrating endeavor because when you're trying to match law, lawlessness with the rule of law. But that being said, we have been successful in slow rolling
Starting point is 00:45:36 or blunting a lot of these unlawful, rogue, and racist attacks through the courts. It just takes more time. I still see outside of litigation legislation as a tool at our disposal, despite how sobering the landscape is from a legislating standpoint. But I just keep applying the pressure. I'm just appealing to, you know, for Republicans of conscience, their majority is very slim. And I'm starting to see that pressure. You know, I've been invited to a number of Republican districts to convene town halls because their own representatives will not meet with them. And as people start to feel the effects of this economy, the impact of these chaotic tariffs, the impact of these mass layoffs, and are worried about their Medicaid and their social security. So it's very important that we continue to keep the public aware and informed.
Starting point is 00:46:27 and the more informed they are, the more enraged they are. And the more they're clear about who are the architects of this harm. And it is the opposition. And then finally, agitation and mobilization. So I think it's all of those things. It's litigation. It's legislation. It's agitation.
Starting point is 00:46:44 It's mobilization. Look, this is a dictatorship. And you can't be a dictator with appeasement. Hello, somebody. You cannot be a dictator by being complicit in silence. The only way to beat a dictator is with defiance. And so we have to resist, reject, obstruct at every single turn. And so that's what I continue to do.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And that's what I continue to push to push others to do. This is a five alarm fire. Yes, I'm concerned about everybody. But what this means for Black America and this moment of anti-Blackness on steroids, this is not about can we weather the next four years, y'all. This is going to shape the next 100 years. This is about harm that we'll be digging out for generation. So I also want to say the other thing I remain squarely focused on is reconstruction.
Starting point is 00:47:34 You know, if we do our job and we rebuild this party and we get our gavel back, to do what? You know, so that's what I'm actively working on now is what does the work of reconstruction look like? Because when you have someone running the country who's running it like one of his many failed bankrupt businesses, they're going to move fast and break things. And it's easy to do that. It's a lot harder to rebuild. But we have to right now begin thinking about what that looks like, what does that mean, and how do we do that? Randy, your question.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So much for being here. When we talk about rebuilding, I'm thinking about the individual families, those 313,000 black women who have lost their jobs. Many of them, very powerful, well-paying jobs. Do you have any practical advice of what they can do? do now? How do they start to rebuild their lives? Well, first let me just say right now, I'm focused on how do I, I mitigate the harm while actively looking for ways with which to ensure that we can recover what we've lost. It's just so layered. It's in every single way. It's no wonder that we're feeling overwhelmed
Starting point is 00:48:48 because that is their strategy. They also want us to feel that these things are inevitabilities, But I refuse to accept that. But it is a layered, compounded assault when you also consider the fact that all the gains is someone who let that fight for student debt cancellation and for creative ways for income-driven repayment. And all those things have been rolled back. So you're talking about black women, 51 percent, who are the primary breadwinners, the formidable role they play in their families, as caregivers and the primary breadwinners, black women the most educated, carrying the most debt. having to then repay those payments, which we've made great progress on, against the backdrop of chaotic tariffs and unpredictable economy and being laid off. So I'm trying to get at this at every single way.
Starting point is 00:49:38 What I need a black woman to know is that I see you, I'm centering you in every single thing that I am doing, and then I'm fighting like hell for you, you know, for your lives, for your families. This is just, it is devastating. It is destabilizing. And we will be digging out, you know, for generations. That is the reality. But I'm trying to do whatever I can in this moment to buffer and mitigate the harms and to hold people accountable. Like the Federal Reserve, you know, they have a statutory mandate. This is why, lifting up the work of Sadie Alexander, the first black woman with the PhD in economics, and Coretta Scott King and Barrett Rustin and others, why I've been pushing for a federal job guarantee since I've been in Congress
Starting point is 00:50:23 because that is a part of their statutory mandate. So now I'm saying you see this crisis happening with black women, analyze it in a meaningful way, come up with a plan that we can hold you accountable to, and let's get to work. Because if you don't care about, if you don't give a damn about black women, then you don't give a damn about this economy or any working family because black women have always been the canaries in the coma. So this is a very, this is a very frightening metric for what this means, for what's to come. Joe. Thank you, Congresswoman, for everything that you do. And this is, of course, incredibly important, beyond important, trying to sound alarms, et cetera. And I appreciate that the window
Starting point is 00:51:09 that you're going through among the many things that you're doing, as you've said, is making a direct appeal to the Fed chair, what's the best way that folks like us that are now aware that there is something that's being attempted to be, there's pressure being brought to bear on this particular issue and this aspect of the issue, which is both micro and macro. You're talking about supporting this black woman that's on the Fed, as well as analyzing, based on their statutory mandate, what's happening as it pertains to jobs and how this just proportionally affects black women, et cetera. What's the best way for us to be part of educating people
Starting point is 00:51:49 and particularly our people on this issue? Yeah, I would just ask every person to ask their elected representatives to join our call, to support us in that pressure. I think the most important thing is vigilance, vigilance and stamina and saturation. We need as many people as possible applying that pressure. in holding the Fed accountable in this way to do their job. And also, with the other part of that mandate, to affirm the independence of the Fed.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Because not only is the targeting of Lisa Cook racist, but a consistent and predictable play from Donald Trump and his obsession with black leadership and black women in particular, but it is unlawful. It is racist, and it is unlawful. And so join our calls. Ask your other elected leaders and beyond to join our calls and our demands for Chairman Powell to be full-throated in his defense of Lisa Cook and call this what it is. It is an unlawful firing. And in doing that, he also affirms the independence of the Fed. One of the things that, again, really.
Starting point is 00:53:09 since the inauguration, I have been very consistent in saying to this audience that there is a massive effort to defund black America. And there's a wholesale attack on black America that Donald Trump in this administration, Republicans in the House and Senate, absolutely don't like black people, don't support black people, want to strip away voting rights of black people, representation of black people. uh, jobs of black people, economic gains of black people. We already see the Supreme court ruling against, um, uh, ruling against from the batch of the schools. But I'm going to tell you right now, that ruling the other day regarding, uh, allowing ICE, uh, to use racial characteristics
Starting point is 00:53:57 uh, to, um, stop and detain Latinos. Black people, look, Latinos are going to have to operate like black folks in South Africa did, carrying around, basically these people. passport showing who they are. Listen, if they allow that, they can allow that to happen to black people. We can't act like we somehow are exempt from this nasty, crazy, deranged, right-wing administration and equally complicit Supreme Court. Well, I completely agree. I mean, this is the time for solidarity, and we have to be intentional, you know, in that way. I mean, again, even if we, if black America and brown folks will feel the harm the most, the point is this harm is coming for
Starting point is 00:54:45 everyone. And so solidarity is key. There was a practical question asked earlier about, you know, how best to support black women, you know, while we're doing litigation, legislation, agitation, and mobilization, I want to really encourage people, you know, organize, you know, get old school. We need to organize our blocks. We need to organize our neighborhoods. We need to stand-up mutual aid infrastructure. I understand it can never meet the gap. It is not the infrastructure that is big enough to supplant the work of a federal government or a full-paying job. But we have to take care of one another, and we're going to need mutual aid to do that. And so I do want to encourage folks, you know, to get to know your neighbors, to lean into
Starting point is 00:55:31 community, because that's the only antidote to this chaos and this uncertainty. And I also add, since I do serve on the bipartisan task force on AI, I'm also closely following the impact of AI and the future of working on black women in particular. Because 21 black women represent maybe 21% of those workforces that stand to be the most impacted by AI. All right, Congressman of Yonanah Presley, always the pleasure to have you on the show. Thanks a lot. Thank you. all right folks lots more to break down here on roland martin unfiltered so y'all stick around for
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Starting point is 01:02:02 Me, Sherry, Shepbred, and you know what you're watching. Roland Martin, unfilting. Folks, let's talk about how absolutely awful this Trump economy has been. Some new numbers came out today. The Labor Department released some numbers. It turns out U.S. employers added nearly a million fewer jobs. then was initially reported. A new analysis analysis about hiring for the year ending in March was overstated by about 911,000 jobs.
Starting point is 01:02:40 The most significant downward revision on record. The Bureau of Labor Statistics revised the prior two months data shown employers actually shed 13,000 jobs in May, a loss that marks the first monthly decline since December 2020. Bottom line, what this tells us, Mustafa, is this economy sucks. and Donald Trump, many people, he was elected because of the economy. Well, guess what? We tried to tell folks that he was not going to be great for the economy. And so his terrorists are showing us that had a more devastating impact on the economy
Starting point is 01:03:10 even earlier than expected. And if people think that, oh, that's just a one-month bump, no. We got stagflation. We're moving towards a recession. And so this idiot doesn't care. and I keep seeing all of these farmers whining and crying now begging for a buyout. It's like, hmm, so now y'all want to buy out, but then y'all were against student loan debt and things along those lines.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I'm sorry, thoughts and prayers. Yeah, exactly. You know, they kept telling us that the economy was strong. I was thinking, where, where is economy strong? Because you miss almost a million jobs that still flex like evolved. And then, you know, they show up like they have. actually showed up in a rented Bentley and have an EBT card in the glove compartment. So you ain't fooling nobody. They continue to try and manipulate the numbers. They continue to try
Starting point is 01:04:03 and play games with us. And folks just got to make sure that they're continuing to speak out because I ain't never seen nobody lose that many jobs before. If you lose that many jobs, if I lose one job, my mom are going to be knocking on my front door talking about you need to find out where their job is at. So we just got to stop allowing these games to be played. We got to also understand that, you know, when they're hurting people, they're actually changing dynamics as others have shared, you know, for generation upon generation. One, we got to call it out. Two, we got to make sure that we're also investing in our communities because we know that they're not going to do it. And three, it is tied to your vote once again. All last year, we talked about
Starting point is 01:04:46 your vote, your vote, your vote, how important it was for the economy, for a number of other things. And I don't know if people took us serious or not, but now you're seeing how it plays out. Oh, yeah. Randy, I mean, I'm seeing more and more of these video, these MAGA people who just crying and complaining and oh my God, what's going on. And it's kind of like, you voted for this. In fact, one California town, 64% of this town voted for Donald Trump, now they're crying because their rural hospital is shut down. We told you. They thought they were immune. They thought that they had the complexion for the protection, but not with this economy. You think about it, 22,000 jobs, new jobs last month, which is abysmal. Typically, you want to see about 100,000
Starting point is 01:05:39 to keep up with the population. But this man and his policies is ruining the economy. You now have industries that are being greatly affected by terrorists. You also have people who no longer are coming to visit America. Nobody's trying to come from another country here. And so our tourism is down. So hospitality industries are affected. You also have, we have lost our workforce because, you know, capitalism, you need a workforce that you don't have to pay as much for it to run. People don't want to say that that will take these low-wage jobs. So that's why these farmers are also struggling because they chased off the workforce. They either sent them out or sent them into hiding. And so his policies have to be.
Starting point is 01:06:20 have real effects. And these policies are what they voted for, but they thought that they would be protected, that their whiteness was going to protect them for these terrible policies that he said he was going to do. But they were so ignorant and they're so enamored by that man that it seems like they don't listen. But I bet you one thing, their pockets are going to make them listen. They're being hungry is going to make them listen. Not having a place to eat is going to live. It's going to make them listen. But it's having a real impact. This economy sucks and there's no other way to say. Joe, I'm looking at this right here.
Starting point is 01:06:55 This came in today. Three rural hospitals in Virginia are shutting down. Augusta Health said that it's a response to the one big, beautiful Bill Act and the resulting realities for health care delivery. And so guess what? A lot of those MAGO wave flagging folks in rural Virginia, hello, say goodbye to your hospital, all because of Donald Trump and his policies.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Say goodbye to your hospital and then say hello to increased hospital expenses, increased medical care expenses for all of us, even those of us that are insured. People that are in emergency care that can't get regular primary care, they're going to show up somewhere. That's going to be covered, quote cover, but ultimately, has to be paid for. And so that's going to continue a vicious, terrible cycle. We're going to become sicker, right? Less people are going to go to the hospital. By the time they go to the hospital, it's going to cost more and be more on an emergency basis. And it's going to continue this
Starting point is 01:08:02 cycle that's going to cost more money for all of us, right? Health care is not going to go down. It's not going to be more expensive. You're not going to have better outcomes when people in rural areas can't get care when there's more crowded hospitals in other areas or because there's less hospitals in a rural or some other area you're going to have more people seeking care you're going to have a whole lot of chaos that's going to result and it's going to continue and it's going to be very very hard to unwind it's very hard because eventually what will happen is what's starting to happen you see with a loss of jobs that the economy is contracting the economy is contracting, we won't be able to turn this around and bring money back to bear that we have lost because the economy is contracted.
Starting point is 01:08:51 People aren't shopping, people aren't buying, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Those going to continue to be this cycle that's going to continue to affect those that are the least of us, and those of us that thought we had our thing on the strength. Those of us that thought that we were doing well and that Trump was our guy are going to suffer a very, very severe. situation, and there's going to be no sympathy forthcoming related to it. Again, we told all these people that's going to happen, and Randy, to your point, they thought it was going to be somebody else. They thought, oh, we're going to own the lives, and it's like, you're an idiot, because it's going to impact you, the grocery prices, the food prices. We saw this before the last time.
Starting point is 01:09:44 He screwed farmers and 25 billion an American taxpayer money had to bail them out. So they were shocked. It happened again. It's just called a sequel if this was Hollywood. Their racism makes them blind to logic. Their absolute racism makes them blind to logic.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And so all they focus on is what he's going to do against everyone else. And so they got excited when he, He talked about getting the illegals out of here. They got excited when he went on an attack against DEI and affirmative action and, you know, anything woke, as he called it. They got excited. And they thought that they were part of the chosen people, that this boy who was this guy, this orange person who was born as a millionaire, got a million dollar loan from his dad to bail him out on a few occasions really has. has some relation to their, to them, to them, you know, their Midwest or South or, you know, farmer values.
Starting point is 01:10:47 And he doesn't. He doesn't care about them, but he, they do not get that. Their racism, I'm telling you, makes people delusional. It's an absolute sickness that completely melts any ability to think logically because he's told them what he was going to do. Project 2025 said he was what he was going to do, but they did not think it would affect them. because of racism. And what gets me, Mustafa, it's just a blatant lying. Donald Trump was on a radio show this morning saying, we have no inflation.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Prices are down on just about everything. Prices are way down on energy. Dude, you're lying. He's literally lying. And these mega idiots, they just go, oh, you know what I guess he's right. Well, that's also the responsibility of the press, right? Because they continue to allow him to share things that aren't.
Starting point is 01:11:40 true. They don't ask the probing questions. They don't make sure that there's a follow-up afterwards to bring the facts forward. And then we also have a responsibility. When I say we, I mean the American public, because if farmers are catching all of this hell, then they need to make sure that they are continuing to speak out against policies that are not working for them. For the folks who work in the health care arena, they have to pull forward not just the statistics of people are getting sick and who are dying, but also the folks who are now going into bankruptcy because they can't afford it. People who are going into the grocery store, you should take your phone and you should record all those prices that are there when you walk outside of that
Starting point is 01:12:19 supermarket with two bags in your hand and it costs over $100. So we've got a double-edged sword that has to be utilized in this moment. You've got to make sure that folks who have a responsibility for making sure the truth is being told on the reporting side of the equation, but we also have to continue to speak out against these failed policies and make sure that we are also not just speaking out. But once again, we're going to say it over and over and over again. Give more deeper consideration into your vote and vote based upon what's going to make your life better and not just because of some racial issues or misogynistic issues, start being more intelligent about how you utilize your vote. Folks, going to go to a break. We come back. How
Starting point is 01:13:04 I keep telling y'all white people are scared to death of not enough white people. Wait a time show this conversation on the Fox News. You want to see white fertility, fragility? I got it for you, courtesy
Starting point is 01:13:21 of Charlie Kirk and Laura Ingram. Boy, you're going to crack up. Folks, you're watching Rolling Back on Filtcher right here, the BlackSat Network live from the Equal Justice Institute here in Montgomery, Alabama, at their Legacy Museum, Annex. Back at the moment.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Next, on a balanced life here on Black Star Network, we're talking what it means to be a balanced young adult and turning 21. I know 21 is one of those ages where you think you're grown. You can do whatever you want. The law says that you can. But what are you packing in your
Starting point is 01:13:54 21-year-old toolkit that will allow you to not only survive, but to thrive? You have every right to make whatever decision that you want to make. Okay, because you're grown. Don't go out here and do something and then want to come back
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Starting point is 01:15:00 All right, I talked about this in my book, White Fear, how the browning of Americans making white folks lose their minds about white Americans, especially white conservatives, freaking out because they stop screwing. They stop having kids. And so Elon Muth, he's always talking about declining white birth rates. And see, they always talk about women, but they really mean white women.
Starting point is 01:15:26 When they say birth rates, they really mean white birth rates. Not black, not Latino, not Asian, white birth rates. So white nationalist Charlie Kirk was on the white nationalist Fox News Network talking to white nationalist host Laura Ingram and there... In sitcoms,
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Starting point is 01:16:49 Y'all going to get a get kick out of this. What is going on with women and not wanting to prioritize family? Yeah, this is a pattern that I've seen. time and time in these college campuses where young men are ordering their life correctly. They want to first and foremost have children, get married, and then have a nice job or to be able to travel. If you look deeper into this data, it's completely consistent with other data we've seen in the last couple of years. Young women, they don't value having children. And this is one of the reasons why we are seeing a fertility collapse in the West. We're seeing less and less young people
Starting point is 01:17:25 get married. We're seeing more and more people go into their 30s to have children. Now, mind you, This is starting to change the last 18 months, especially. We are seeing a little bit of a turning of the corner, if you will, as the country is starting to get more into traditionalism and young people are starting to go back to church. But if you play out the liberal worldview, the Kamala Harris worldview, to its furthest possible logical point,
Starting point is 01:17:47 you have a country with literally no future. When you play out the logical endpoint of President Trump's agenda of where young men voted for him, you have one of lots of children, increasing communities, and you also don't have a need then for mass immigration. And this all kind of ties together. Trump, voters, young men, they want family, children, and legacy. Young women who voted for Kamala Harris, they want careerism, consumerism, and loneliness.
Starting point is 01:18:13 That is a dramatic divide that is going to play out in our politics for the years to come. Okay, I just think y'all to understand what you just heard there. Okay, first of all, you have Laura Ingram talking about, oh, women and families. And you got Charlie Kurt talking about how these women don't want to get married. He's talking to one of those white women. Laura Ingram ain't never been married. Probably nobody wants to marry her ugly ass, but she ain't never been married. Now, she later adopted three kids, but she ain't never been married.
Starting point is 01:18:47 So here's Charlie Kirk complaining, talking about women, really white women, and working, and trying to say is Kamala Harris. how about Laura Ingram? You're talking to one of those white women and I need y'all to understand whenever you hear them say women oh declining birth rates y'all I'm telling you
Starting point is 01:19:12 they're talking about white people and what do he say? Well you know if we tie turns and then we won't need immigration what are they saying white people. Y'all, that's what all this is about. It's about white people.
Starting point is 01:19:31 They are angry. They are upset that white people are not having children. They're upset that white people are not having babies. And so they're trying to blame everything. Control room.
Starting point is 01:19:47 I just sent y'all a graphic. I want you to pull that up. Elon Musk, apartheid South Africa apartheid Elon Musk, is always tweeting about fertility rates. He is infatuated. That's why he's had like 12, 13, 14 kids. I think he's got more kids than Nick Cannon.
Starting point is 01:20:04 But that's what this is all about. So I need y'all to understand what these white folks are so focused on. They cannot handle the fact that America is going to be a nation that a majority of people of color. They cannot handle it. They are scared to death.
Starting point is 01:20:18 The Charlie Crofts of the World and the Fox News, Laura Ingraham, they're trying to say that white people, hey, we need your head, as much sex as possible. And so when you hear him say, oh, well, these, you know, these men, they want to go to college and they want to travel and get a good job.
Starting point is 01:20:31 No, what they really are saying, and this is what the Charlie Kirk's the work can't handle, and let's be be honest, I mean, what white woman wants to get with Charlie Kirk? Seriously, seriously, what white woman wants to get with him. So what they're mad about, they're mad, and they're trying to really understand.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Speaker Mike Johnson is the same way. They believe that the decline of America began with the civil rights movement and the women rights movement. They believe that no fault divorce. These white men, Charlie Kurt, Mike Johnson, and a lot of conservatives, they want white women to shut up, lay down, get screwed, kick out a whole bunch of babies, stay in the kitchen, cook, clean, do that. That's what they want. and they don't want to use the right language. Joe, it's clear as day what they're trying to do. They do not want to have that real discussion.
Starting point is 01:21:33 This is about whiteness, Joe. It's about white people having babies, white people getting married because they are afraid of losing power. And so when they say women, yeah, they're talking about white women. And just like when they say future, they're talking about white future.
Starting point is 01:21:52 I think it's interesting that Laura Ingram asked him what was going on, asked Charlie Kirk what was going on with white women, like, or with women, which was white women. But yeah, they're getting ready to be outnumbered. And listen, if you don't have enough folk, you are just where you are. And the fact of the matter is we're just going to continue on to this thing. And it's going to burst because the fact of the matter is you're going to be outnumbered. That is going to happen just like you are outnumbered in the rest of the world. That will continue to be the case.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And the more you try to subjugate people that are going to become a majority, that's just going to create pressure and tension that's going to make this thing blow up. The other part is, you know, you go back to Obama being elected and you go back to Kamala Harris being elected and things like this, despite all of this racial pressure, people or color are still getting elected. And it's a reminder that there's a whole lot of people out of here that don't necessarily accept that we always have to have white men in the positions of authority. Once people see something differently, see something different, and see different potential, they'll demand something different.
Starting point is 01:23:05 And they're scared of all of that. All of that scares them crappless because they know that things are changing. And that's the good news here. We have to continue to facilitate it with our vote, with our involvement, with our understanding, with us speaking out with action following related to the future that we're all contemplating. But they're not doing what they're doing because things aren't changing. They're doing what they're doing because things are. They're trying to turn back the clock, but they're outnumbered.
Starting point is 01:23:36 They're continually to be outnumbered, and that is not going to change. And to your point, yeah, they don't know quite how to deal with it. Yeah, Randy, when they say Make America Great Again, they really mean make America white again. They really mean Make America when white women stayed in the house with housewives and were birthed babies and greeted their white man when they came home with an apron on. That's what they want.
Starting point is 01:24:04 See, they never want to say that. So like, oh, women. And how in the hell you're going to sit here and try to blame Kamala Harris because white women don't want to sleep with you, Charlie Kurt? Right. No, that is not Harris's fault that he is not attractive to women. You know, it's so funny, they absolutely are terrified at the Browning of America. One, I hate to tell them this, but it's too late. That bus has already left the station.
Starting point is 01:24:33 It's interesting, you know, Laura Ingram reminds me very much of those white women during the election who voted against themselves. Because if Charlie Kirk had his way, she wouldn't be the one. asking him that question. She would be at home with a bunch of babies with a husband who was paying her no attention and just to be happy and satisfying because the reason why white women stop having babies is one, they have a choice now because they have birth control, which is why they're trying to regulate that. They also had career options and going to school. So it wasn't like they were doing it because having these babies because they were happy. And when they had a choice not to because they had fathers like Elon Musk and Donald Trump who are not raising the
Starting point is 01:25:17 children, who are not staying with the women who have these children, who have been caught cheating on the mothers of the people who have their children. And so they decided to make different choices, right? You know, this is where it's all falling apart. They're making a different choice because, yes, they want white women to be, stay at home and be pregnant and stop this browning of America. numbers are what the numbers are. And they're scared about what's happening in the United States.
Starting point is 01:25:46 If they looked at the world, it's been over for them in the world. So they just need to grin and bury. But right now, for them to just have this last-ditch effort of trying to get people to have a whole bunch of babies that's going to fall on their faces. And Laura Ingraham should be ashamed of herself. Laura Eam, all the women like her who voted against their own interests because they voted for a party who wants to completely make them lose. rights over their own bodies just so they can use them as breeders.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Well, I mean, don't know about a law Ingham a glass. I mean, let's just be real clear, okay? All right, so, you know, like whatever. So, but Mustafa, so check this out. See, Elon Musk is always tweeting about these stats, these, these birth stats. And so he put out this graphic here, the state of global fertility. Fertility rate by country in 2023 births per woman. So if you look at this graphic right here,
Starting point is 01:26:48 so here's a deal. So below 1.0 is red. So there are very few places in red you see right there. Okay. Now, you see the pink that's 1.0 to 1.9. You know what that is? That's Western. That's Europe. That's the West. That's the United States. You see, that's a lot of South American countries. But here's the piece. Look at that blue. Look at that powder blue. Look at that cobalt blue. And look at that dark blue. What do you see? Africa, Africa, Africa, Africa. And that right there is what is scaring them the death.
Starting point is 01:27:40 reason they are now complaining Mustafa about immigration in Europe because it's black immigrants and now they're complaining I'm like wait a minute y'all calmize all them countries now you're mad they're coming back at you and so that's what they're angry about they do not want to see black and brown immigrants they want whiteness and I'm sorry I keep telling people excuse me that white people in America stop screwing excuse me that the French and the Germans and the Brits and the Irish and the Italians, they all stop screwing and having kids. Hey, what's the song? It ain't my fault. What time is it? It ain't my fault. Y'all stop screwing. Y'all, y'all can't put that one on black people. You cannot put that one on Latino
Starting point is 01:28:28 people. Sorry. So I'm like, hey, guess what? Y'all want to get busy. Tries you might, but that's what this is all about. What people need to understand. understand the attacks in this country we're seeing is because white people are afraid to death of not having enough white people to replace them. Well, let's be clear. We are the original people of this planet, right? And everything springs forth from us. And we understand the importance of family, of children, of the roots that run deep where we come from. So we haven't lost our traditional values there. When we move over to what's going on here in this country. You know, there's some interesting dynamics with these folks. So you always have these wealthy people who want to go on TV and talk about what somebody else isn't doing. And they fail to realize or they just want this disinformation.
Starting point is 01:29:24 They don't want to have an honest conversation about why young women don't want to have babies, right? Or why they want to put it off. You know, so one of the parts is it's not that they don't value it, is that they don't want to be broke. And your policies actually make people be broke. I know that that's not grammatically correct, but I'm going to say it the way that it is because I'm country. They also don't want to be barefoot no more. They don't want to sit around and just be babysitting. They want to make sure that they have the opportunity for the fullness of what life is supposed to bring forward.
Starting point is 01:29:53 So you who are creating those policies, you have a responsibility to do better if your policies weren't trash and the results from them weren't the types of results that actually hold people down, that maybe you could convince younger women that it's okay to have babies because we're going to make sure there's a true safety net for you. We're going to make sure that if you take time off to have children, that we're going to support that, all the things that are necessary.
Starting point is 01:30:21 So, yes, it is their fear of the browning of America, but it is also because their policies are trash. Yeah, I'm like, all right, I mean, y'all can sit here and keep complaining. I mean, I just, it just cracks me up when I see them whining, complain to women, remember, they don't want to have kids, they don't want to sleep with us, and I mean, they just want to work, and they just want to have a life of themselves. But your policies are anti-women, your policies are anti-children, your policies are anti-health, your policies are anti-education, and so what the hell do you think is going to happen? All right, folks, got to go to break. We'll be right back more, rolling back on unfiltered right here in the Blacks.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Network back in a moment. This week on the other side of change. D.C. has been ravaged and taken over by tanks, soldiers, police officers over the last two weeks, and it's only starting there. Trump has announced that he also has plans to bring this to Chicago, Baltimore, and New York City. So we're going to dig into it. This is on the other side of change, only on the Black Star Network. Next, on the black table with me, Greg Carr. Immigrants lured off Texas streets and shipped to places like Martha's Vineyard and Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Believe it or not, we've seen it all before. Your people in the north, you're so sympathetic to black people. You take them. Sixty years ago, they called it the reverse freedom riots. Back then, southern governors shipped black people. people, nor with the false promise of jobs and a better life. It's a part of a well-known playbook being brought back to life. So what's next?
Starting point is 01:32:09 That's next on the black table, a conversation with Dr. Gerald Horn about this issue of the reverse freedom rise right here on the Black Star Network. Hey, what's up y'all? I'm Devon Frank. I'm Dr. Robin B, pharmacist and fitness coach, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Folks, a lot of black preachers out there who are speaking truth to power in terms of what's happening with this white nationalist in the Oval Office.
Starting point is 01:32:47 One of them is the pastor, Abyssinian Baptist Church. I came across a clip of this sermon by Dr. Kevin Johnson, and I say, you know what? we need to show a little bit more. So he says it like it, TIE is regarding the twice-impeach, criminally convicted felon-in-chief Donald Trump. Check it out. There are times, I mean real times, when I've even asked God the question, have you forgotten about us? Over these past eight months, there have been moments when I've questioned and said, God, where are, are you in all of this? In fact, if I'm really honest with you today, since January of 2025,
Starting point is 01:33:38 there have been times when I feel like we're on this journey all by ourselves. We can't seem to find our Jewish brothers and sisters to support us. We can't seem to find our Hispanic brothers to support us. And even though we warned and we told people what was in Project 2025, nobody seems to have listened to us every time we turn around. If a baby is giggling in the back seat, they're probably happy. If a baby is crying in the back seat, they're probably hungry. But if a baby is sleeping in the back seat, will you remember they're even there?
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Starting point is 01:34:48 On your feet. Streaming live only on Hulu. Ladies and gentlemen. Brian Adams. Fade, Chlorilla, Jelly Roll, John Fogarty, Lil Wayne, LL Cool J, Mariah, Mariah Carey, Maroon 5, Sammy Hagar, Tate McCrae, The Offspring, Tim McGraw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today.AXS.com. This president is doing all he can to hurt us, to damage us, to intimidate us, to frustrate us, to frustrate us. to upset us, to irritate us, to aggravate us, to anger us, to discourage us, to dampen us, to depress us,
Starting point is 01:35:33 to dishearten us, to terrify us, to threaten us, to marginalize us, to exclude us, to diminish us, to silence us, to destroy us. And I want you to know he's even trying to erase us. Beloved, when you looked at what's taking place in America, and when you look at how these ICE agents are coming in, they couldn't wear a COVID mask, but yet they'll wear masks when they come into our communities. They're invading our cities and invading our neighborhoods. Yes, there is a sense of this systematically dismantling the very workforce. Beloved, when you hear that there are federal workers who are losing, their jobs, don't you know that there have been black families who have sent their children to school and gone on to get a degree all on the federal government's back?
Starting point is 01:36:31 That's the least they can do because we help build this country. When you look at how they're deploying a federal troops in the cities and dismantling every DEI program, then blaming us for the planes that crash saying that it's DEI, when you look at the fact that they are granted. asylum to South Africans while banning refugees who are black and brown. And when you look at the fact that they're trying to tell the Smithsonian to stop teaching about how bad slavery was, yes, it was bad. And guess what? You can erase all the horror, all the pain, all the suffering that this country has caused the generations and generations of black people in this country.
Starting point is 01:37:20 And I'm sharing this with you today. It's because this past week it hit a boiling point when he was there in the over office and talking about sending federal troops into cities. And he had the audacity to say that our young people were born criminals. Beloved, the only criminal I know is the one. who has 34 felonies. The only criminal I know is the one who tried to overturn the election. The only criminal I know who is incited a resurrection on January 6th.
Starting point is 01:38:05 The only criminal I know is the one who stole classified documents and hid him at his house in Margo Lago. The only person I know who's a criminal is the one who paid hush money that cover up an affair. who is allowing Israel to kill babies and commit genocide in Gaza. That's the person, I know. And when you look at what just came out yesterday as it relates to unemployment, do you know that under this president that we now have more unemployed people
Starting point is 01:38:42 than we do have people trying to get a job? This is not taking America. taking America forward, but this is taking America backwards. Montgomery, Alabama, at the Equal Justice Initiative at their Legacy Museum Annex. And so we've been meeting here last couple of days with black folks having some great conversation, Latasha Brown co-founder of Black Voters Matter. I was just there playing portions of a sermon from Pastor in Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. He's been using the public calling out Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:39:47 And earlier, I had a congresswoman young, a press Leon, Congresswoman, Ived Clark, and all talking about just this moment we're in. And we've been talking about this, that people need to understand that there is a massive attack on every black institution. That's right. And look, I love to dance. You love to sing. But a lot of our folks are so fixated with boots on the ground, not realizing they're trying to put boots on our necks. You know, I think this is a moment for us to really realize.
Starting point is 01:40:19 I mean, if people really just plug in everything, everything is actually attacking our communities right now. If you look at just the headlines in the last week around 300,000 women, black women, losing their jobs, their federal jobs. Why is that important? Right. And when you're looking at our unemployment rate, being double what the national rate, why is that important? It's approaching pandemic levels. Pandemic levels. And what's interesting is black women are like the canary in the coal miles.
Starting point is 01:40:45 that ultimately it is indicative that there's a major, major problem going on in the labor market. Black women actually participate in the labor market, how than any other women? So when you're looking at what's going on with black women that is telling us what's going to happen and it's happening already in our communities, and then how are we going to respond to that? So the bottom line is what we're seeing happen. And then we've got to think about it. He went, D.C.? Like, let's think about who's in D.C.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Let's think about the mayor and leadership of Chicago. First, L.A. Let's look at LA, which is targeting Karen Bass, then D.C., Mirror Bowser, now Chicago, Brandon Johnson. That's right. And it's just going on a list of, okay, give me a black mayor. Let's see who I can go here. That's right. And so we got to really realize what this moment is.
Starting point is 01:41:29 We can't be so disconnected to not understand that not only the policy under attack, but our bodies, our physical health, we're under attack. When you look at this bill and how these cuts in Medicaid are going to impact us, right? when you look at how this attack on these cities, there's a reason why black elected officials right, these cities that are led by black part of it is pushing the boundaries to see how far I can go. And I also want
Starting point is 01:41:53 to think around, you know, as we're talking about these elections, you know, people I'll talk to folks rolling and that was like, well, why? Well, elections don't matter. Elections always matter. And if, see, elections matter. Here's what kills me, and I see this all the time. You are not going to find white
Starting point is 01:42:09 folks saying, hey, y'all, that vote thing don't do nothing for us. They ain't saying that. No. Now, it's something like folks who don't vote, but it's amazing how a lot of us are listening to people who claim to be doctors
Starting point is 01:42:23 and activists or in who are concerned about the community who are literally telling us that stuff don't matter. That's right. That's right. And the truth of the matter is it's sensationalizing. That's just not true. Every single aspect of our lives is impacted by public
Starting point is 01:42:39 policy. So the truth of the matter is there. nothing from how much money you make to where you live, where you can get a mortgage, all of those things are set by public policy, and who are elected officials, their policy makers. Now, let me say this, I understand people's frustration. Right. When we're out in the communities, yes, we are frustrated because we know that there's more that we deserve that we should be getting. Right, and you want to see the results of your votes. But we also need to understand that sometimes we also have to use this as a harm reduction strategy
Starting point is 01:43:07 that when people are coming for your community, you have to use every single tool available to stop them. You also, when people, you can't let folks attack your community and there's no consequences. And voting in itself is not enough, but it is certainly a consequence. I think what we need to also think about is this next year's election is going to be critical, not just for the place of, okay, who we're going to get in office?
Starting point is 01:43:31 That's important, but it has to be a vote of resistance. We have to get out in massive numbers and let folks know everybody that we're coming for you. If you come for us, we're using every single tool available to us to push back and hold folks accountable. We are willing to do anything to protect me and mine. The marker that I have been using, the target goal I've been using is 70%. I'm saying, folks, if the goal should be at a minimum,
Starting point is 01:44:00 voting at 70% of our capacity. And so when you just do simple math, that there are 100,000 eligible black voters and they're registered. Yes. If we vote at 40%, that's 40,000 people voting. We vote at 70% that's 70,000. It's elections all across the country
Starting point is 01:44:21 where 30,000 votes changes the entire election. Oh, without question. And I want people to think about what's really critical, too, that we don't talk a lot about, is local elections. Yeah. Oh, we need to be grabbing up
Starting point is 01:44:33 every local election, particularly in communities where we have sizable numbers for mayors, where we are 55, 60, 65% to vote. Absolutely. We need to be focusing on that. We don't need to just get caught up around the hype around presidential elections. Right. That it's in these lower elections.
Starting point is 01:44:51 And many circumstances, what's coming down the pipeline, our first line of defense is going to be able to have folks who are in position locally to protect us and to be able to connect us with resources. So it's really important. I need folks to understand. And this ain't about participation. Part of it I also think is our fault. Part of it has been our fault of really focusing on to participate.
Starting point is 01:45:12 You need to participate because folks died for you. And all of that is true. But this is really about power. Right. And we have to recognize this is about power. When folks coming for you, you've got to use every single tool available to you to push back and to move forward to get power. We talked about 26, but the reality is what I keep saying,
Starting point is 01:45:29 listen, you've got a mayor election in New Orleans. That's right. You've got a governmental election in New Orleans. Jersey. Congressman Mike and Cheryl, you need to get off your ass and do more talk to black people. You've got a gubernatorial but also a legislative election in Virginia.
Starting point is 01:45:45 That's right. If Democrats win the Virginia House, if in beating MAGA black lieutenant governor wins some seers, who is down with Trump 100%. If they win, if they maintain the House, then Don Scott is still Speaker of the House. If
Starting point is 01:46:01 they control the Senate, Louise Lucas, she controls the money. So you literally are going, and what that then happens is they now, because they've already passed it this year, they now can now pass it again to restore voting rights for all folks formerly incarcerated by putting on a ballot that no longer requires the governor signing each one. So you can have a number of people in Virginia get their right to vote back if Democrats win the House, Senate, and Governor's Mansion. That's right. This ain't time for people coming up with half ideas who have not put boots on the ground, who have not done the work, who have not organized communities. Because I know the difference. I've gone in a courtroom where a DA that was put in by the people was very different than the outcome of a DA that was not responsive. Well, and in Virginia, you've got a black guy, Jay Jones, running for Attorney General against a crazy deranged MAGA. So now that's the Chief Law Enforcement Office of Virginia will be a brother.
Starting point is 01:46:57 see so so it's like folk understand it is chess but you got so you would say hold up virginia you have a black guy the attorney general come on a black guy the speaker of the house right a black woman controlling all the money in the senate oh what the hell so this and that ain't that's that's that's not a d and r thing but the reality is they are democrats but that's black power controlling positions absolutely and controlling resources and protection of us. There's other pieces we've got to really realize. Do we not see that there is an agenda to cut us off from resources? Do we not see how vulnerable we are right now? The Republicans ran out the black guy who was the superintendent of the General Military Institute.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Then Trump has been going after the black guy who's the president of George Mason, and he's been resisting. Hell, no, I'm not one, I'm not resigning, and I'm not apologizing. So that's the stuff that people need to understand what's going to. They need to understand what's going on. This is a moment that you cannot leave any power on the table. This is the moment we've got to be organizing. We need to connect ourselves. Folks need to be registering to vote.
Starting point is 01:48:07 I don't care what's your position on it. At this moment, you need to recognize that we are in a fight, that we've got to stop the ascension of what we're seeing is the consolidation of power. And the way you stop that, you have to slow that down by disrupting. And voting is a vehicle to also disrupt when folks are actually trying to take and consolidate all the power. It's also really, and I've just been trying to get our folk to just to really fully embrace this, that when you say, it is a top-down, massive attack on everything black.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Everything black. So for the people who get so caught up in, oh, man, y'all are trying to be Democratic shields, this is very simple. They want to get rid of the federal DBA program, $37 billion program, last year, black businesses got $10 billion a record, you don't know less than 2% it's still a record. They want to get rid of the program. They want to get, they're attacking. They are literally using the power of the federal government
Starting point is 01:49:06 to tell private companies, oh, I'm not going to prove your acquisition unless you get rid of DEI. They did it with Pam out. That's right. They did it with multiple companies. That's bringing in card to FCC. They're using the power of the SEC,
Starting point is 01:49:20 the Federal Trade Commission. Supreme Court just affirmed Trump been able to fire the Federal Trade Commission In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job and my parakeet is
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Starting point is 01:50:19 Tim McGraw. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets to J-A-X-S.com. Member, and so people have to recognize that they're trying to fire out the black woman on the Federal Reserve, Lisa Cook. All these things are happening. Who's not even the chair. The irony around it is she's not even the chair. So out of all the governors you have, we have to realize that there is a strong message to stop black building.
Starting point is 01:50:48 That is a strong message to actually punish anything and strip away anything that actually help. black folks advance or get access to resources. And so if that's going to be the case, our response can't just be sitting at home because if we're sitting at home, that means we're giving them permission. We're saying, oh, it's okay, I don't care about that. Part of the voter suppression, and what we're
Starting point is 01:51:08 seeing right now is not because we weren't participating, it is a response to black folks actually moving forward and gaining some policy wins. So we got to really think about this moment right now. This moment is not the setback. This got to be the set-up moment. This is the moment
Starting point is 01:51:24 that we've got to come out strong. Last point here. This generation, and this is, I think, where the rubber meets the road, this generation has never had to encounter what I am calling Jim Crow 2.0. Right. We had to deal with stuff.
Starting point is 01:51:40 We had to deal with Reagan and we did with stuff. No, no, no. I would say there has been nothing. There's been nothing. And even if you go back 60s, If you think White House, you didn't have this level attack from LBJ Kennedy. Right. You go to 56.
Starting point is 01:52:01 You didn't have this attack, really Eisenhower. He was indifferent. Then you go Truman, FDR. This literally. We've not seen this. This, we have not seen this. But this literally is the most direct assault and anti-black presidential administration since that viral. racist Woodrow Wilson. Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's why I need people to understand
Starting point is 01:52:28 that this, there are no games here. Right. This is an all-out assault on everything black. Everything black. And you think in terms of resources, when we're thinking about how the middle class was built, when we think about black folks moving forward, we just think we're going to sit back and it's going to fade out. It will not. First of all, if you attack, if you attack the federal government and the jobs, you are attacking the black middle class. You're attacking you're attacking black housing, then you attack black giving. Yes. Then what they're now doing by attacking with the companies,
Starting point is 01:53:01 they're now freezing the resources that are going to nonprofits. That's right. See, folk don't even understand how this thing is, how it is impacting everything downstream. That's right. There is an anti-black agenda. Do not fool yourself. There's the evidence.
Starting point is 01:53:16 It's not even like behind closed doors. It's in our face. Oh, yeah. Oh, they're real public. I mean, last week, Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri, a Republican, gave one of the most racist speech. People got to look at it.
Starting point is 01:53:29 He literally, no, we did a show, we showed three times last week. He literally said, our ancestors did, it was for them and us. Right. Nobody else. He was saying this thing was for white people.
Starting point is 01:53:44 You know, the irony around that is who built this country and also the irony around, so you believe that black folk that we are existing in this country for the pleasure of just serving you, Like, we've got to wake up and recognize that even God gave a duck enough sense to take care of his ducklings. We've got to protect our communities at all costs. Even if you don't even believe in, okay, you're not excited about voting.
Starting point is 01:54:05 I don't need you be excited. I need you to be focused on what it takes to build power and to protect my community. And I don't think that that's the only way. Yes, we've got economic power. We got all that. But we cannot fool ourselves to think that voting does not matter when the people who are being put in position are making policies that are impacting our families every single day. Like, we've got to be sophisticated enough to really recognize that I've got to stop you at all
Starting point is 01:54:34 cause. And this is critical in this moment. That's it. Latasha Brown, co-founder, Black Voters Matter. We appreciate it. Last thing, y'all, and I keep saying this here, we also have to fund our institutions. We do. Y'all heard me say, listen, if you want to give a campaign, that's fine, I would rather you
Starting point is 01:54:49 give money to Black Voters Matter because you know the money is going on. around. I'm not trying to fight these, they deal with these white consultants who don't want to invest money on the ground, who don't want to do black-owned media, who want us to be sharecroppers, that is get out there and vote or volunteer
Starting point is 01:55:08 for free. But when we fund our institutions, if we literally are funding Black Voters Matter, then we can run our own black tested commercials. That's right. Using black posters, using black strategists, and actually employing black
Starting point is 01:55:23 people out there on the ground. These other cats want us to volunteer. So we also have to understand why funding our own always comes but also all it all comes back to our community because
Starting point is 01:55:39 it's actually being spent on black people. Absolutely. And I want to say this to you. I want to say this to you too because I am a member of Black Star. I do my monthly contributions. People who are listening. Like right now, you
Starting point is 01:55:55 should, whether it's $5, where it's $50, where it's $500, we need, you see what's happening on national media right now. On national media, they are taking black faces off. Last night I watched, and every single story that CBS did, it took black men and made it
Starting point is 01:56:11 it show, like the most egregious actions of black men. I was like, oh, they started that again. We saw that in the 80s. Because MAGA folks have not bought CBS. Because they bought CBS. You should have seen them, like story after story after story. And so it's really important for us to realize that this is a strategic move. This is part of the strategy.
Starting point is 01:56:30 We need black independent news platforms so we can bring information to you that those of us that are really resisting, that we are organizing, that you know what we're doing. And you've provided that for us. So I do want to ask people that, yes, support Black Voters Matter, but we need you, brother. We need this platform. And it doesn't take that much. Right. We got the money out there. understand why we can't just just drop
Starting point is 01:56:55 5 million real quick right collectively we can do that and when people understand is literally that it's going to blow you up because I sit Rashad Robertson playing today if we got 5 million that would mean an expansion of at least 40
Starting point is 01:57:10 journalists yeah we did that mean that we would literally have the largest black journalist newsroom in America and we need it I need people to understand that we need it because what you hear becomes real for most folks.
Starting point is 01:57:28 We saw what they did to Joy Reid. We saw what they did with Dunlid. We saw what they did to all of our journalists like you who got the courage to tell the truth. And you have put your sweat into this space and have provided this platform for us. I can't tell you how grateful I am. But I do need people. We got to stuff up, y'all. This ain't even that moment that we say, oh, if what I feel like this is the moment that we've got to put our money
Starting point is 01:57:53 where our mouth is, if we can go give these white folks that don't give a darn about us, right, money for a purse or whatever it is that we want. I like stuff like the next person. We can take some money and invest in platforms so that we don't, there's not a blackout in the information that we do. That's it.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Absolutely. Kathy Hughes said, information is power. Information is power. So is voting. Amen. Tasha, we appreciate it. Thank you. Folks, on that note, we told you, we celebrated seven years on September 4th. Our goals is raised a million dollars. Tosh. We can do that. So here's a deal
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Starting point is 02:00:33 work. That's this week on a balanced life with Dr. Jackie on Black Star Network. Hey, what's up? Geithereen, the place to be got kicked out your mom's university creator and executive producer of Fat Tuesdays of Air Hip Hop comedy, but right now I'm rolling with Roland Martin, unfiltered, uncut, unplugged, and undam-believable.
Starting point is 02:00:59 You hear me? Thank you. All right then. So I'm still having some audio issues right here. So we're going to make it through. If y'all look at the Paul Ropesson, I'm not my Paul Ropesson. You know what? I need to get a Paul Ropesson picture.
Starting point is 02:02:21 in our studio. James Baldwin, the James Baldwin piece that hangs in our Black Star Network studios there. I love that piece. And so one day, I was on Etsy, and I actually saw that, and I hit Dominique Brown, and I said, man, I said, I got to get that.
Starting point is 02:02:36 And so she sent that to us. I bought it from her pay for it and show. She's the award-winning artist behind Damo Inc. Of course, vibrant art pieces, unapologically bold and reflected, a creative brand known for modern portraits, cultural textures and all of that. Dominic Jones is right now.
Starting point is 02:02:53 Glad to have you here. First and foremost, just folks who don't know, when did you really start your art? Man, I've been drawing since I was little girl. Like, my first image I have of myself, I guess, thought was when I was in preschool. I did an illustration of a lady on paper plate. To me, I thought it was bombed.
Starting point is 02:03:14 Probably now in high side, it probably wasn't. But my teacher telling me, like, this was a really nice portrait, I think, like, basically put me on a face. path that is always keep drawing now art for many people is very personal um and their different style what really attracted my attention was the vibrancy of your pieces some people some pieces some people are a lot darker as well and so uh explain why that is a part of your signature in terms of these really vibrant works of art.
Starting point is 02:03:54 I think for me, I grew up in a very vibrant house. Like, my parents had art all over the home. We have figurines. Every Christmas, they always buy me art supplies. Like, I've always been around color. My house is colorful, as you can see. I think, for me, I think it's really important to bring that into people's spaces.
Starting point is 02:04:13 I think, obviously, like, people, I guess, like, you probably even look at, like, let's say if you have a kid that grew up in a beige room, compared to a kid that was born in a colorful room. The colorful, the kid that was in a colorful room is creative, has thoughts behind. They're just,
Starting point is 02:04:28 it's just like more artistic. So I think that's why I pushed that in my artwork of just kind of basically inspiring people to be creative. Let's go to some questions from my panel. Let's see. Who I think really is that? Well, you know what? I'll start with you, Randy.
Starting point is 02:04:46 You know, you got some art pieces there. And you always talking about how. cultured you are, I think you just boogey, but going right ahead. In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job and my parakeet is missing. How is your day?
Starting point is 02:05:08 But the real world is different. Managing life's challenges can be overwhelming. So, what do we do? We get support. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have mental health resources available for you at loveyourmindtay.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org.
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Starting point is 02:05:39 Ed Shearrett. Fade. Chlorilla. Jellyroll. John Fogarty. Lil Wane. L.L. Colche. Mariah Carey. Maroon 5. Sammy Hagar. Tate McCray. The offspring, Tim McRaw.
Starting point is 02:05:51 Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today. AXS.com. Whatsoever, I got kicked out of my kids' art class, asking I not to volunteer anymore. So I am very inspired and respect all that you're doing. I'm very familiar with your art. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 02:06:14 When you said, I want to be an artist, and this is the living I want to make, how did your parents react? Because I feel that sometimes because black Americans, we've had to live in kind of a place of fear and we talk about get that good job with benefits, we sometimes are confined
Starting point is 02:06:32 and don't feel like we're able to go out and really use our creativity. So was it easily accepted? I like that point that you made. I think I was blessed when my parents were always pushing me. I said like one of the big things that my parents did was my mom.
Starting point is 02:06:49 She was taking off from work on Saturday to drive me to USC when I was in high school so I can start taking art classes. Once I got to college, you mentioned with art, you start to think like maybe there isn't space for me as an artist. So I ended up going to get my master's, went all the way through school to get my master's in marketing.
Starting point is 02:07:08 And then once in 2020, then that's when I really got serious about like, okay, I actually should be an artist. That's fantastic, because just your existence provided inspiration to so many people. Thank you. So thank you. Mustafa. Yeah, well, congratulations, sister.
Starting point is 02:07:28 I'm a huge, huge, huge fan of Jacob Lawrence in the work that they were able to bring forward. And their work is all over the place. If there was one or two locations where you would want your work to be, where would that actually be? I honestly love seeing my, artwork in retail, I think, especially now with all the roadbacks. I think this is a very
Starting point is 02:07:53 integral time to where I want my artwork to stay there. Right now, I have a collection at Walmart where I'm selling hair accessories, and to be able to see that kids, college students, elderly can go inside and buy a bonnet, hair, like, I can't even think, rubber bands, scrunchies, that are reflective of black culture is very important. I think it's helpful for people to feel seen in their space. So now we're seeing retail pulled back on a lot of black-owned businesses, and we don't have that no more. We kind of have to go online.
Starting point is 02:08:29 So I kind of want to be able to still be able to be in retail over the coming years so people can continue to feel seen. Another place as well, I think it's really good for me. It's been in campaigns. I think people really need to see themselves there as well. I did everything to the collaboration with Rams for Dream Team to where people were able. in that campaign, I created shirt up, I guess, apparel. Also, we went to Flores Jonah Elementary School
Starting point is 02:08:53 where we painted murals for the kids so they can see themselves reflected because the murals had children of all different races. So I think I just really want to stay in those spaces in retailing campaigns. Joe. Yeah, this is really amazing. I'm sitting here looking at the website.
Starting point is 02:09:13 You got wall, you got art. You've got decor, you've got clothes, you've got lifestyle. What is the next frontier? Because you already do so much. It kind of connects to the previous question. Are there any kinds of products that you don't make already that you would like to make? Yes. So right now, I'm leaning a lot into plushies.
Starting point is 02:09:40 I'm leaning into collectibles. And that's something I really want to get into. Like Christmas season is coming up. like currently right now we're creating nutcrackers which is different um but i feel like it's still part of the whole like hey like let's bring ourselves on basis so i think thank you yeah because as you know there if you go to the store you're not a final black nutcracker if you do it's just a white figurine that will just paint it black so i think for me i just always want to continue to create products that are reflective of our culture um no matter what it is so i think that's why i'm
Starting point is 02:10:15 kind of leaning into more of the toy design because I want to kind of start getting to the younger generations so that they don't have that same kind of feeling that I had growing up where I wasn't seeing black art to where I didn't feel like I could be a black artist. So I want to kind of start in that younger space. So that's why I'm leaning into the plushies
Starting point is 02:10:32 as I have right here, which is the honey supreme, which is basically... Wow, that's amazing. Thank you. Yes, because it's basically a metaphor to sunflowers, how sunflowers with the sun. Sunflowers are basically a symbol of resilience, positivity, always looking up no matter what the circumstances are. All right then, well, folks, again, Dominic has some amazing pieces.
Starting point is 02:11:01 If y'all go to shop, blackstar network.com, y'all can certainly get those. If you want to get your copy of that James Baldwin piece, we have hanging up in our studio, you can absolutely do so. If you go to the website, you'll see the pieces. Corretta Scott King and Dr. King, Rosa Parks, John Lewis, some others as well. And so it's Damo Inc. And so support her artwork.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Dominique, I appreciate you being on today's show. Thanks a lot. Thank you. All right then. Folks, that is it for us. Let me thank Mustafa, Randy, and Joe, for being on today's show. I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
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