#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Mound Bayou: Oldest Black Town In America. Truth About Black Farmworkers & White South Africans

Episode Date: May 2, 2026

5.1.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Mound Bayou: Mound Bayou: Oldest Black Town In America. Truth About Black Farmworkers & White South Africans Tonight, we will explore the history of this significant town, founded in the late 19th century by former slaves, and its crucial role in African American history. Mound Bayou, a farming community, stands as a beacon of hope and progress amid the challenges of segregation and racial oppression.  Reports indicate that black farmworkers are losing their jobs to white South Africans; however, folks here say that's just one aspect of the situation.   We will discuss what is happening in the nation's oldest all-Black municipality.  Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In 2020, coming up on Rolla Martin Unfilters, streaming live on the Black Star Network. We are here in the historic Mound Bayou, Mississippi. One of our most important black settled towns. We'll talk about the history of this place. Also, what is happening with black farmers. We've, of course, been talking a lot with John Boyd, president of the National Black Farmers Association,

a loss of black land and how this administration is not doing enough to tend to the needs of black farmers. Also, we'll talk about the decision made by the Alabama governor, Kaye, to call for a special session to redistrict. They likely are going to wipe out one or even blow both black congressional seats here in Mississippi. Governor Tate Reeves has said the exact same thing. So you may see the wiping out of Congressman Benny Thompson's congressional seat in New Jersey. there, Nikki Sherrill announced that they will do redistricting that could add two seats. A lot of us to talk about. It's time to bring the funk.

I'm rolling mark unfiltered. The Black Star Network, let's go. So Mississippi, an historic town that was settled on after black folks under attack in this country. I've been saying since last year what we're dealing with is an administration, Republicans who are trying to defund black America in the battle with political powers happening before our very eyes. Today, Alabama Governor Kay Ivy announced that she is going to call a special session to lead redistricting. You might remember, it was just a couple of years ago where black folks fought successfully for the creation of a second opportunity district.

You had a long-time seat held by Congressman, Congresswoman Terry Searle, and then the creation of the second seat that were legal battles that took place, but all the way to the Supreme Court that led to the seat that was won by Congressman Shemari figures. Well, as a result of the Supreme Court decision, just two days ago, you're likely going to see. Republicans in Alabama, wipe that seat out. But don't be surprised they may very well even go after the seat of Congresswoman Terry Soul. Why is it important? Because Alabama, that's the black belt, where voting rights, the battle of voting rights took place. We're talking Selma. We're talking Montgomery. We're talking Birmingham. And so that is going on there. Then, of course, we hear in Mississippi, where Governor Tate Rees, even before the Supreme Court decision came down, said that they wanted to redistrict here as well. They want to target.

the congressional seat of Congressman Benny Thompson, the only Democrat representing this state in Congress, the only African-American. Also, keep in mind, and we've been covering this in the last several months, the special elections that took place in Mississippi that broke the Republican supermajority. Well, don't be surprised if Republicans get rid of those seats. And so what I've been explaining to our folks is to understand that this Supreme Court decision, this Louisiana v. Calais case, has far-reaching consequences. It is going to impact black political power on the congressional level, on the state level, and go all the way down. You're talking about county commissioner seats, city council seats, school board seats, and who will be under attack, black folks all across the south. Republicans are seeking to potentially pick up 10 to 15 seats, the congressional black caucus political action committee, put out a report, a tweet saying that they could lose up to 24 seats. Now, now keep in mind, there are 60 members of the congressional black caucus.

most ever. Losing 24's almost half of the Black Caucus. That is an extreme number of black power. Tennessee Republicans are talking about wiping out the seat there in Memphis. Congressman Steve Cohen holds that seat. He's running in the primary against a state representative Justin Pearson. Then, of course, you're looking at South Carolina. Republicans there are talking about redistricting there that could wipe out the congressional seat of longtime Congressman Jim Clyburn, the only African-American representing South Carolina. And so when we look at what's happening here, it is going to impact black folks all across the South. The only way Democrats, frankly, can respond is to do the exact same thing. It's a New Jersey governor, Mickey Sherrill, announced today that she is looking to redistrict.

That could pick up two seats. New York Governor Kathy Hockel said that she will look at redistricting there as well. Some people are arguing that in California that Governor Gavin Newsom should go even further and potentially create a 52-0 map. giving Democrats all seats in that state. And so this is an absolute war that's going on. Why is this happening right now? Because obviously, Republicans are scared to death

that they're going to lose the House in November. I've been explaining to y'all why that's so important. Because, one, Donald Trump said in January, if Democrats get control of the House, he says, I'm going to get impeached. So he's scared about being impeached for you third time. But here's the other issue that we have to keep in mind. the branch of government that actually certifies the presidential election is the House.

So if anything happens in 2008, it will be the House. So Republicans want to be in control of the House to certify the election. If Republicans were in control of the House in 2020, they would not have certified the election for Vice President Joe Biden. So we have to understand the long-term game that's going on here. and that is what you're dealing with. And so that's why they're doing all they can to change what's going on. Remember, Democrats put forth a bill to call for a national ban on gerrymandering. Every Republican voted against that particular bill.

And so that's what we're looking at. That's what we're seeing. Coming up at the bottom of the hour, we're going to hear from Congressman Troy Carter of New Orleans. His seat may be in jeopardy as well because don't be surprised if Republicans in Louisiana, try to wipe out both black seats. And that second seat, which Congressman Cleo Fields, they just got a couple of years ago. And again, that was a result of a legal battle as well.

So a lot is going on. And again, we're going to keep explaining to our audience why this is so important. Because a lot of African Americans just sort of see this as politics, not understanding this is also about power. It is about resources, about the ability to control access to dollars. And so if you wipe out black representation, Republicans are saying they're targeting Democratic representation. No, they're targeting black representation.

And so we have to understand that. We can't fall for this okey-doken what's going on. Because remember, they have four black Republicans in the House. All of them will be leaving in January because Representative John James is running for governor there. You have, of course, Wesley Hunt in Texas who lost the U.S. Senate race in the primary. Then, of course, you have Byron Donald's out of Florida who was running for governor. Then Burgess Owens in Utah chose not to run when Democrats picked up a seat there. And so the real issue for us is what happens when they wipe out black political power across the South?

Who then is representing the interests of African Americans, especially when 55% of black people live in the South? And that number is increasing every single year. What I've also said is that if this wipeout happens, this will be the largest decrease in black political representation in Congress since the end of Reconstruction. Let me say that again. You'll be the largest wipeout. Remember, you had a significant number of black folks who were elected to state level and the federal level during the period of Reconstruction. When you had the election of 1876, the Great Compromise of 1877, you begin to see the roll back. and the attacks in this state, of course, was a constitutional convention in 1890, where they strip black folks of their right to vote.

You have not had an African-American elected statewide in Mississippi since that convention in 1890. And so what we have to realize is that this attack on black political power goes directly with the attack on black history, on black education, on black health, on black contracts. all these things are tied together. We're going to be chatting with some farmers here a little bit later. We have seen a massive loss of black land in the last 100 years, and it is being expedited in the last 10 to 20 years because of the failure of the federal government to provide loans to black farmers,

even though Donald Trump last time he was here, $25 billion they gave out to white farmers as a result of his tariff battle. Money did not go to black farmers, and in fact, it was Stephen Miller, is Trump's right-hand person who sued to stop the $5 billion that Congress set aside for black and Hispanic farmers. Now, the exact same thing is happening. White House has a massive meeting with farmers.

They do not invite John Boyd, the president of the National Black Farmers Association because they say this isn't a DEI meeting, but they had white farmers who were there. And so what we need to understand that this attack is real, this attack is ongoing. And really what their goal is, is to lock in or lock out blacks from political power for the next 50 to 100 years. And so we have to be thinking a lot differently about what's going on and how we utilize our power. And we're going to talk here as well about turnout because if black folks had voted their numbers in Mississippi, Mike Espy could have beat Senator Cindy Hyde Smith. He lost by 65,000 votes. He came back and then lost the second time around.

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Folks, we're back here in Mound Bayou, Mississippi, a very historic town that when it comes to our history and our culture carry significant meaning. We're going to talk right now a little bit more politics. Joining me now is the former mayor of. of Mount Bayou also also pastor here there are johnson how you doing all right glad to be here uh and in fact um so we ran each other when was it last year yep yep so we were down there and uh and of course first of all um just so y'all and um darrell and herman gonna roll up on me like they gangsters or something uh we we need we need you to come down the mound bayou uh because um we you know we we saw what you was saying about Isaiah t y team Montgomery. And so it's another side of the story. I was like, all right, what's the other side of the story? And so I said, all right, we'll make our way down there. So it's not a problem. So we were in Shreveport last night with a, of course, with a tragic shooting there with a brother who killed eight kids and shot two of the women. And so they had a public form there dealing with the issue of mental health. Dr. Kevin Washington organized that. And so I pull the map up. I said, y'all were four hours away. So I was like, all right, we're going to be down there. So let's go ahead and slide over. and because also that was a story that was published talking about Trump sending his white Afrikaners down here to Mississippi to take farm jobs and say, I said, well, good, let's go ahead and talk about all of that. But first of all, let's talk politics.

And the rally, what we're facing, and I have been yelling and screaming this for a very long time. and I have been saying to black folks, especially those 18 to 45, that the attacks that we are confronting now is the greatest threat to black advancement since the civil rights movement. And not only are they attacking those advancements, they are really looking going back to the Reconstruction Amendment, 13, 14, 15th Amendment. And so what we are confronting now, and I just think a lot of black folks do not fully understand the attack that is happening, and they are attacking every single facet of black America because a lot of these white folks are just flat out mad at black advancement,

and they're scared that they're not going to be in the majority come 2043. And I agree. People have been afraid of black achievement for a long, time. And they do all types of things to keep us down because they are afraid. They don't understand the power of working together. And because of that, Mississippi has some of the most negative statistics because there has been division. The only reason that we're sitting in this room today is because of racism. And the reason I said that is because Mississippi has so many schools that they built. They had to build some from.

whites, they had to be a son for blacks. All of that came... Hold on one second. Are we getting his audio? They're telling me they can't hear him. We are? All right, go ahead. All of that came because of racism. And then when they decided to correct it, we had too many schools. We had to merge people together. I grew up in the 60s.

And in the 60s growing up, there was an urge and a move of African Americans. Just let us be heard. and because of that, people came out from everywhere. You would see voter lines, I mean, wrapping everywhere. I mean, people would come out. They didn't care if you came out with your guns and came up against us. It's because there was something deepened down inside of them saying,

I want to be heard. I want to be represented in the country. Now, well, y'all got a photo over there. There's a photo over there. Exactly. That says near riot broke out as voters, as voters registration blanks, were passed among a crowd of 13,000 states, Negro vote will hit peak in 1914.

So a near riot over trying to register to vote. And that was the heart of the people. I want to be heard. I want to participate in this, the greatest country that was built on the back of the slaves or ex-slaves or the people that was living on these plantations, built on the back of that. And the United States became the greatest country in the nation, in the world. and then it was now you're talking about

but we don't want them to participate yes there is a fear that black people if we let them do something they're going to hurt us and they're going to put us down and that's something that we need to get over well it's also the basis of my book white fear how the browning of America

sometimes how the browning of America is making white folks lose their minds and I mean I look at this state right here and I've been saying this for the longest Mississippi is at the bottom, one of the poorer states in the union. And I said, there are a lot of poor black people. Right. And there's more poor white people.

Right. And I keep saying, broke is broke. Right. But the reality is there are white folks in this state who consistently are voting against their economic interests, their health interests, their education interests, because they're voting for whiteness. Right. And so they literally will continue to vote against themselves. in order not to align with black people. And what's crazy, if you look at the history of this country,

if you go back to the period of reconstruction, from the period of reconstruction of the present day, every moment in American history where black people fought for civil and economic rights, it actually increase the well-being of poor white people because the bills that we fought for help them as well. Exactly. Exactly. And we find even in the story about, Bayou that all of the Confederacy and the Davises that ran the Confederacy, the people that was

actually making them rich was the people that actually ended up coming to Mount Bayou. These were the folks, these were the people, this was a think tank, these were the people that were running their business, these were the people that make them most successful. They had the most premium cotton in the world down on the Davis plantation. and these are black people. They are ingenuity. Why do I get, they started being successful,

had the most successful plantation because they allowed them to be themselves. And one of the things I think people are afraid of is that if black people start voting and start participating like everybody else, they're afraid that they would get snuffed out. But it's going to make this one of the greatest, again, this would really make America

really great a game. Well, and the thing for me is it's also trying to get black folks to stop being afraid. I'll get a perfect example. So when I was at TV One, in order to to be on the cable system,

you actually had to go to each city where they had a cable franchise and convinced the cable franchise to carry the network. So you would sign a You would sign a master agreement with Comcasts, with charter, but then you had to go to each city where they were.

So I remember coming to Mississippi, and we organized an event, and all of these towns that were majority black, majority black city councils, black mayor, city council members. What happened was they didn't even understand that when the renewal period came up, will the city renew the cable agreement? They could sit here and say,

no, no, we're not going to renew this cable agreement unless y'all carry more black networks. What we found was that in so many of these towns, there were white lawyers who had the legal contract. And here we were trying to explain to the black leaders who had the votes that, no, you actually had the power to do this. And we were dealing with these white law. who are telling them, but no, you necessarily can't.

So we were having to educate all of these black mayors and black councilmen that, no, you can actually do this. And in fact, when we were in, I forgot, the company that had one of the contracts here, they actually were owned by the Washington Post, Donald Graham. And the general manager here is like, no, folks down here aren't requesting TV1. We're like, we know they're asking for a black network. So the white general manager of the cable franchise was saying that all of these black folks in Mississippi did not want to see another black network. We were like, we know you lying.

So we had to apply a level of pressure. And I remember doing it's a brother who has a radio show that airs statewide. And I did his show. And I said, I said, the black folks in Mississippi. I said, I want you to cancel y'all cable. I said, get, we want to direct TV. I said, get direct TV. Y'all want to see TV one.

That's the only reason they said. yes. But what was crazy to me were the number of places that had black control, but they still were being controlled by whites. The narrative. Whatever narratives are there, a lot of us have to be very careful. We're seeing not only blacks, but we're saying whites, a lot of people are even right now being controlled by someone that has the mic. Whoever has the largest mic actually control. controls the narrative. And so it's important that we start thinking for ourselves and start thinking up five years, ten years from now.

What are we going to leave for our children? What are we going to leave for our children 10 years from now, 15 years from now? And that same person that comes to me and say, well, I don't think I need to be voting. I think one of the key issues right now is for us to start figuring out how to get my friend to vote, how to get somebody else, out to start voting because voting gives you a voice. Your finger can actually talk when you go down there and press that lever and start voting.

But I think the process, though, has to be. And I think for the longest, you talk about narrative and how you frame it. The framing has been, you've got to vote. But the problem was some of the people have been asking, what am I voting for? So what we have to do at is actually connect the dots. To walk people through in just a very basic way, meaning you want this. So we were sitting traveling here, and we were in Louisiana coming here, and I was live yesterday. And man, the bus is all over the road because of the highways.

And Gary Chambers Jr. cracked a joke about it. He's like, he said, we need to put pressure on this governor. He said, because Rowling, you haven't driving these raggedy roads. people don't understand that if it is a highway, that's money that's coming from the federal government coming to the state. That's politics. If you are upset about potholes

or you want roads paved, you want new schools built, that's all government. And I think a lot of people just really don't even connect the dots to it to understand that people clamor for things, not realizing, well, no, that's going to be a school district or that's going to be the city government. Well, that's going to be the county government. No, that's going to be the state, and that's going to be the federal.

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And we all need to be on the same page. Because coming up in the next year, the next two years, it's going to be very crucial for us on down the road. And the key is going to be voting. And I'm telling right now, I mean, every black person in Mississippi needs to understand that because of this Supreme Court decision on Wednesday, they are about to come after black elected leadership. I need people to understand.

Are you signing alarmists? Yes, I am. Because I'm telling you, these people are pissed with the number of black people that are in power. Can I say as a minister of the gospel? You can't say pissed, but I can say that. Well, go ahead.

Can I say being naive and it's changed me that our wonderful governor of the state of Mississippi can I say that I probably never would think that he would absolutely take the driving wheel of this racist move

that many of the governors are going to try to take how dare our Christian man that praise and moves and so forth and so on how dare he do what he doing? Well, keep in mind, it was a video that played the other day, and they talked about the Catholic Church that supported shadow slavery, the Anglian Church supported shadow slavery, the Episcopalian, the Mormons, the Methodists.

It's like every single one of these nominations did. and the greatest folk who supported child slavery were those Southern Baptists. So it's no shock in my mind that the so-called Christian governor, plus this is also the same governor when he was, he was previously the treasurer openly, he was openly admitted how he kept money from Jackson, Mississippi, which is crazy because Jackson, Mississippi supplies the most money to the state. Right. But you kept money from them. So that's what you're dealing with.

Holtight one second. I want to bring it right now, Congressman Troy Carlson. from New Orleans. He joins us right now. Carnism, glad to have you on the show. This Louisiana versus Clay decision, I have been yelling, screaming the folks. It is going to cause significant problems all across this country, especially the South.

But let's start right now in Louisiana, where your MAGA governor, Jeff Landry, literally is postponing the election, which is utterly insane because people are actually voting. And so, and I'm sure there's going to be legal challenges here. Just share your thoughts about this unbelievable thing. We didn't cancel elections during the Civil War during World War I, World War II, during COVID, and he is literally

postponing an election because of this shameful, despicable Supreme Court decision. Roland, first of all, thank you for always illuminating these issues and bringing these critical issues to light. Listen, you're absolutely right. When you look at what happened and the blow that was dealt to our democracy by the Supreme Court justices who chose to throw out one of the most monumental pieces of legislation, the 1965 Voting Rights Act, by literally gutting Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, what they essentially did with this gut is you say on one hand,

It is okay to gerrymander to pick your party. You can gerrymander along partisan lines, so you gave an advantage through partisan gerrymandering. But on the other side, you denied the opportunity to defend against discrimination by creating a narrow window where individuals must prove intent to discriminate. That is reminiscent of the poll tax, reminiscent of the Jim Crow laws that said, here's a jar of jelly beans. Look at it and tell me how many jelly beans are in this jar. It was impossible then,

and this new test from the Supreme Court is impossible now. What it's basically saying is black folk, Hispanic folk, we don't care about you. You vote doesn't matter. We're going to do whatever we want. and unfortunately the Supreme Court has sanctioned that. Louisiana v. Calais, while its name suggests that it is about Louisiana, and it is, in fact, about Louisiana.

But it is far deeper, far wider. The implications are much greater because this impacts local school boards, legislative seats, city council, and police jurors across our country will likewise be subject to this ridiculous ruling and dynamiting, if you will, of our Voting Rights Act. Section 2 being gutted is like tearing all of the work, all of the blood, sweat, and tears of our freedom writers, of John Lewis, marching on Edmund Pettus Bridge, and tearing it up with a stroke of a pen. Now, these elections, which is unconscionable that our governor would unilaterally decide that this is a state of emergency, that you cancel elections, and as you said, this hasn't happened. There's no storm. There's no tidal wave.

There's no tornadoes. This is a matter of the Supreme Court determining that this map was unconstitutional. I'll remind you, Roland, that four years ago, Garrett Graves had a map that the Supreme Court determined. to be unconstitutional. They struck it down, but they said, it's too close to the election, therefore we're going to hold this back, let the election

go as is, and in two years we'll remedy it. Well, two years came by. They created the remedy, which created the seat that now my colleague in front, Congressman Cleo Fields holds in the sixth congressional district.

At that time, the election was much further away than it is here. Now our election has already begun. People that are serving our military abroad and at home have already turned in their ballots. Our senior citizens are people that have challenged mobility have turned in their ballots. And tomorrow morning at 8 a.m., people will show up for the first day of early voting. This is the quintessential definition of irreplaceable, irreparable harm. because you are putting people

an 80 or 90 year old lady or man every time they vote it may very well be the last time. Our soldiers who are dedicating their lives for us may not get another time. You're telling them your vote doesn't matter. You're casting your vote doesn't matter. You're telling African Americans and

Hispanics that this partisan gerryman is okay to cut you out and to block your city up and to divide your community so you never have enough votes to have an elected official that looks like me or you to be elected. I'll remind you that why this is so important in the Deep South. In Louisiana, we have never had an elected official to be elected statewide from the state Louisiana since reconstruction. John Willis

Menard, 150 years ago in the very seat that I hold, was the first black man to ever be elected to Congress, but he was never seated. He was never seated because there was a congressman that went to the well of the floor and said, this Congress is not ready for a Negro to serve in Congress. And summarily, they didn't seat him. Fast forward to 26. Calvin Duncan was duly elected by the people of New Orleans to be clerk of criminal district court. But this governor, and the legislature decided, oh, no, we don't want to. to be. So even though the people had spoken clearly, they

pulled the rug from under Mr. Duncan and erased his seat with legislation. This is America, right? Or so we say. So my comment to all of our brothers and sisters out there is, this is real time. This is not fiction. This is not

a dress rehearsal. This is real. And we have to be smart. We have to be galvanized. We have to be strong. We have to be together and we have to vote like we've never voted before so we can then take back the Congress, take back governors' mansions, take back the presidency and start to reverse these ill actions because they're banking on us fighting each other. They're banking on us not voting. They're banking on us staying home. They're banking on us having a circular firing squad while they run up the

middle with the president who doesn't care about our constitution, our rule of law, or the rights of individuals anywhere. Although this impacts Louisiana, it's the epicenter, it is going to have reverberating hits throughout our country. With congressional seats, school boards, state legislative seats, council seats,

all over the country. But Congress, this also... This also is why we also try to walk people through on what the implications of not voting are. I mean, let's just be honest. A significant number of black people did not vote in the gubernatorial election. That's how

Jeff Landry was able to win. There were a lot of people who just said, I don't like Hillary Clinton. That's a fact. A lot of people said, well, you know, Trump is not going to be that bad. And guess what? He then appoints three of these Supreme Court justices. The reality is this here.

Hey, Hillary Clinton won in 2016, you would have a progressive majority on the Supreme Court and not a right-wing majority. And so this is also the result of people staying home. now, now with this emergency, now folks are having, now, you know, the world's on fire and now folks hopefully are going to wake up. And so what are you and others in Louisiana doing to combat this to mobilize and organize people going to the state capital, applying maximum pressure to the legislature, not to eradicate these masks? Because I'll be honest, Congressman, we keep talking about how they're going to wipe out Congressman Cleo Fields,

seat. I believe, I fundamentally believe that the Republicans in Louisiana want to wipe out your seat. I believe in Alabama. They want to wipe out not just Shamari Figure's seat, but also Terry's sole seat. I'm here in Mount Bayou, Mississippi. They absolutely want to wipe out Benny Thompson's seat.

Listen, they want to wipe out all of our seats. And when I mentioned Cleo Fields, I mentioned that it was his seat that was the target, a target of the lawsuit. But the real target is everyone that's black and brown. The real target is everyone who's a Democrat. The real target is to obliterate, listen, Donald Trump was very clear. He called

the governor of Texas and said, I need five votes. He started this avalanche of having these mid-term reapportionments. Reaportionment has done every 10 years to take into account the ebbs and flows of our demographic changes. This government, this president, decided he would do it sooner. That's what started the avalanche. I understand totally that they are not just after one seat. They want two, three, four, five as many seats as they can. They want to go to Mississippi.

They want to go to Alabama. They want to go to Georgia. They want to go everywhere they can, particularly in the deep south where I try to explain to people. The deep south is very different. The deep south is very different. If you look here, and I'll emphasize again, no African-American. has ever been successful in a statewide run. Why is that?

Why is that? So we're not like some of our northern partners where we have the ability where white Democrats wholeheartedly vote for African American Democrats. That's not reciprocated here in the South. It's unfortunate. It should be different, and hopefully at some point it will be. But right

now, the reality is there's a frontal, all-out assault against everyone that serves in the congressional black caucus and in the Hispanic caucus. Well, I'm going to tell you right now,

grassroots activists and others churches, you name it, should be on DefCon 5 should be a high alert because this is a moment and I've been yelling and screaming this. This is a moment where they want to deal a death

blow to black progress. Many of these white conservative Republicans, especially in the South, they have despised the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the 65 voting rights act, the 68 Fair Housing Act. They despise all the laws and other things that have happened ever since then, and they want to eradicate and much of this progress as possible. And so folk better recognize that we are on the verge of literally having the next generation having fewer rights than the ones that we have right now. Final comment, Congressman Carter.

Well, I want to get, and as I started, Roland, thank you for speaking truth to power, using your enormous power and following to call balls and strikes and to talk about where we need to be and to call out the inefficiencies and the racism that we see in our community. Listen, we have a role to play, and we all have a role in that play. In Louisiana, we are talking to our great leaders, our civil right leaders, Moriol, and Brother Sharpton, and Derek Johnson and Chavon and all of the others across the spectrum. And you, of course, Gary Chambers and I met a couple of weeks ago with the DNC chair to talk about that we have to start investing more money, not just lip service in the South. We had a very good meeting. And we've got to continue to galvanize.

We've got to give our Democrats in the state legislature the backing so they will have the courage to stand up and fight and know that we've got their back. So in the coming days, we'll be organizing, and I'll be reaching out to you as well as others to ask you to be a part of this push to get us organized, but not just for this battle. We can't get angry for a moment and then settle. We have to stay angry. We have to stay organized. We have to stay hungry, and we have to be able to fight for our rights. People died so we would have this moment.

People died so I can serve in Congress. people died so you can own the airwaves. We can lose all this. We see how FCC goes after Jimmy Kimmel. You think they'll think nothing, not a heartbeat of a second, to go after our black media. We have to be ready, smart, defensive, and offensive at the same time to defend their rights,

galvanize our people, empower them to be a part of the process, and not look at them on the sideline as if they have nothing to say. Our people have a lot to say, and we've got to engage them. We have to deputize them to be a part of this battle because it requires all hands-on deck. God bless you, Roland. Thank you for doing what you're doing, brother. I love to come back on soon and talk some more and give you some updates on what's going on here in Louisiana as well as what's going on at the nation's capital.

All right. Sounds great. Comments with Troy Carter. Certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right, folks. We're going to go to break. We'll be come back chatting here, getting a lot.

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So we're not actually in the museum. So what happened to the museum? We're here in the school. This is the makeshift museum. So explain what happened. Right. So the building that we started off in is the outbuilding, which was the band room, choir room, music building for this school.

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and it's merged with the school north of us, this afforded us to have this room to put a temporary exhibit in here until we can get our building fixed over there. All right then. So for folks who don't know about mound by you, give us a perspective on the history of, of this town? Well, I'm going to first say this. Everybody should know. And I think because in America, there was a concerted effort to keep the history of African Americans down.

We don't know. And so what we did was realizing that there was an amazing history of this city here. One of the most amazing histories you ever heard of any African American place. in this country and the continuation of it from the core of the people who started it that came from the plantation all the way up into now this amazing story of this city, somebody's got to tell it because of the whole diaspora of African Americans, 40 or 50 million or whatever it is of us in this country. This story actually tells who we actually are, who black people actually are.

And so I came back, my brother had never left, and as time went on, we started realizing that there was a depth of this story that we had not realized before. And so we decided to open a museum. There are other things that we decided to do in Mount Bayou because we believe that this city should go back to the glory that it used to be,

back in the days. And so we opened up this museum, and it's been very successful since then. So first of all, how many people reside in Mountain Bayou? Right now, about 1,500. And at its height, how many folks were in the city? I think there were times where we had hovered around 11, I mean 8,000, maybe even 11,000 at one point. We were talking earlier, and you were talking about the massive amount of land that that had been acquired.

Walk through that. The land that has been acquired? The land that had been acquired. So in terms of the formation of Mount Biden. And for folks who don't, I was talking about this other day because Michael Harriet had put together this threat on Twitter that sort of explain, you know, how collective economics had operated

that then began the process of acquiring the land, things along those lines. And also the land itself, what it used to be. Well, when they said, started the city, IT Montgomery comes up here and he buys, now, first of all, I got to say that IT Montgomery,

his intention was Mount Bayou was to be a seed, a seed for a country. And he was strategically looking for a way to do that. But when he came here, he bought 840 acres. And because

he was bringing up people from the previous plantation that he had been on, and they were mostly going to be agriculture. The railroad that sold our team of government to land authorized him to sell 37,000 acres surrounding Mount Bayou for the farmers to come up here and be an agricultural society. So they did that.

And so at one time Mount Bayou had 37,000 acres that's owned by African-Americans here. So that's obviously a large amount of land. And so then town gets formed. But people also have to understand, again, how folk work together to begin to do that. And so that's, you know, I'm always reciting Dr. King's last sermon, April 3, 1968, where he said that black people have to operate as a collective.

He's individually we are poor, collectively we represent one of the largest economies of the world. And so the acquisition of that land, the building of the city, none of that happens if folk are not moving and working and operating together. Absolutely, and that's absolutely what happened to start this place. Even those that initially came, when they first got here, this was nothing but wilderness. It was a swamp. You had all kind of animals and things here.

And some people got here as they were invited to come up or they were coming up with IT Montgomery. They got here and saw all this work of clearing his land. Some of them like, you know what, I'm going back to my conference, back to Vicksburg or wherever they were from. And Auntie Montgomery told them, he said, if your master had told you to clear this land, would you not have done it? And absolutely, the answer had to be yes. And so with that, with that spirit to build something for their children and their children's children, Mount Bayou was formed and cleared and became very, very successful in this state. And this was also done because Black Post created their own bank.

They create their own bank here. And matter of fact, some of the wealthiest people in the state of Mississippi were here in Mount Bayou. If you can imagine that they came here and with the ingenuity that they came here with, they created the highest grade of cotton in the world here in Mount Bayou. And because of that, instead of this city the size of it, only having one cotton gin, they end up having to have six. Because of all the people that were coming from out of the area, bringing their cotton here to get that Mount Bayou label and get that higher price.

Now, think of this also. In the city of Mount Bayou, you had. stores that was servicing the people here in the city, right? But you also had a unique place, an oasis, so to speak, in the desert, Mount Bayou being an all-African-American place where black people could come and walk in through the front door. Well, people who didn't live in this city will come here to Mount Bayou because of the fact that they could walk in through the front door in this city.

And so anyway, what they did was because of that, you had a huge population of people that were coming here to Mount Bayou to shop and that type of thing. Well, the store owners in this city here became some of the wealthiest people in the state of Mississippi. So you had a lot of things going on, a lot of power here in Mount Bayou. I was reading something, Harriet, right, he was talking about, of course, what took place here. This is what he said, 1941. A black-gone architecture firm, McKissick, and McKissick, broke ground on the Taborian Hospital in Mound Bayou. Any member of the black organization who paid $8.40 cents a year,

in dues could get free health care, including surgery. And he said to lead the hospital being personally chose one of the most important unknown figures in black history, TRM Howard, who trained Megger Edwards and Fan Lou Hamer. He was Jesse Jackson's mentor. The Montgomery Bus Boycott was modeled after Howard's Don't Buy Gas where you can't use the restroom campaign. Yes, absolutely. And that hospital is a shining jewel of Mount Bayou because of it, because of it,

you know, just and also think of it this way. You know, you got that hospital here. And there's no other black hospital in this area. in North Mississippi. You know, the only other one was in Yazoo City. Now, everybody that's black who can get to this area are coming to this hospital. Instead of going to hospitals, they're going to be treated bad, you know, in their own locations. So like Michael Harriet said, they did put together something that afforded everybody,

the opportunity to go to this hospital and be treated. And so like he said, 840 a year that afforded you so many surgeries. And I think it was like something like $16 a year for a whole family. And 37,000 people signed up for that and became the first HMO in the country. And they did HMOs in that time the way they were supposed to do it to benefit the people. My father tells a story all the time when he had to go because they would check you up. They would check on you and make you come to the hospital and do a checkup three times a year. And one time he came and they wanted to put him in the hospital and they made him stay there for three, three days.

When he left on his exit, they gave him $100 because they were actually looking out for the patients. All right. So when we met, y'all said we got to give you a different understanding of IT Montgomery, Isaiah. T. Montgomery. You have the 1890 Mississippi Constitutional Convention. He is the only black delegate Republican.

He votes along with the Southern Democrats to strip black folks of their right to vote. Frederick Douglass did not take kindly to that position. It was very critical. And so all right, so y'all explain to me

why I should not keep ripping Isaiah Montgomery for that decision. They rolled up, they were like, now you've been seeing some hard stuff. I'm like, yes, I have. Yes, I have. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

let me help you out. First of all, let me just say, because you're sitting in mound by you. That's, that's, that's number one. So his strategy was to have a place for God and. Why are you holding the microphone? Both of them were. Oh, can, can y'all hear him? That one's not allowed.

Y'all hear him? This one is better. So, so, so, so, so, so, all, we do. Okay, give me that one. Hold on. Forgive it here. Give it. Now I'll take that when I unplug it. Feed back there. Go ahead. Okay. So the bottom line is that Mount Bayou still exist.

And actually, Montgomery strategized. He was a guy that came up in a plantation listening to the voices and the strategies of people strategizing for the Confederacy. He knew how they were. He knew how they thought. but when he was able to talk to him he had to talk to him with strategy when he was picked to go to the 1890 convention he knew what he could say

but he was looking for the power that would give him something 10 years later 20 years later 50 years later like a town called Mount Bayou and because of it he even told them in the speech that you make reference to he told them I know y'all are going to do what y'all want to do and basically what he was saying.

I'm going to tell you what you want to hear. This is what you want to hear. But think about this. He's one black man that's picked to go with all of these white folks. What you think he's going to say? He has to say what he has to say. But did he have to go?

Exactly, but he went on. No, no, but did he have to go? Oh, yeah. Yeah, the reason that he went is to represent him. But he represented by voting with him. But because he represented, he took with him a power that he did not have. And that was the folks who had the power. And he knew how to manipulate the folks who had the power.

So how did he do that? And let me just say. No, no, get it out. For folks who don't know, how did he do that? Go ahead. Go ahead. When there were threats that came against this town, when there were threats, he would tell them, and there's writings that say, he said, I'm not worried about it.

about the people to my south or the people to my north, or the people to my east or the west. They're going to take care of us. We're not worried about that. When the people came into Mount Bayou, to take over Mount Bayer, like the clan, they called them and told them and say, look, they're coming. And so they did come. I don't know if it was a clan or what type of white group that came,

but there was, all the lights went out in Mount Bayer, and that night, when those folks came into Mount Bayer, they already knew. It was because their friends told them they let a gadolin gun go on the top of the bank and let that thing start. Those guys left. Well, they wouldn't have known that if they were the rebels. If they were the ones that was fighting those folks. But there's a way to listen to them, let them talk, and utilize their power.

And that's what he did. And that's how Mountbatty was able to survive in a very racist dark side. You're going to say something. Well, the only thing I'm going to add right now is that IT Montgomery, I think, was really looking to start a country. You know, when he was down there on that plantation and he was around Jefferson Davis, he had to see Jefferson Davis plotting the Confederacy.

There had to be many, many meetings and gatherings down there. and his father is running all those plantations, Benjamin Montgomery, and he end up buying that plantation. But in the case, I think IT Montgomery's ultimate goal was his father's goal was to start a country. Matter of fact, when Auntie Montgomery died in 2024, I believe it was, he had been working with the U.S. president to start to actually buy the Congo from the Belgians because his ultimate goal was. to start a country. And so it was a strategy. All of these are strategy moves. And, you know, we can always look back on them with hindsight and criticize or say this, that, and the other. But to say that he was any other person but a forward-looking person looking for the best for his people, I'm going to say one thing that Martin Luther King said, and I think it was kind of mimics what I

Montgomery was looking at. One of the things Martin Luther King said was when he was on and, you know, had taken some time into his leadership in the civil rights movement, he said he feared that he had taken his people, leading his people into a burning house. And I don't think out to Montgomery, I think he was, I think he was thinking the same thing. And he didn't want to just settle for second class citizenship. The reconstruction, the 1890 convention was a convention to assert

first class citizenship for white people. And Auntie Montgomery was not settling for that. So he had another strategy to start another country because he knew these people. But again, but he was critiqued at the time by

you know, one of the most important to figure. Of course it was critiqued. Because Frederick Douglass called the vote an act of quote, treason to the cause of the colored people not only of his own state but of the United States and said that

what he heard was a groan of bitter anguish born of oppression and despair. And some call him in accommodations. Well, if your idea is to assimilate, then I can see that. But if your idea is to separate, which I think out to Montgomery was what his idea was,

then I can see what he did was the strategic move on that end. So the question, so we look at the history, look at all that took place. The question now becomes in terms of where we are as African-Americans. Because right now, you've got a lot of people who are saying, who love talking about Black Wall Street. And then some folk want to recreate that. And you have all these different efforts.

And the reality is how I see this, if we're going to be talking about recreating or trying to do trying to pattern on what took place here in 1887, you have to do that with acquiring land. And when I listen to African Americans today complain about gentrification, I keep saying, okay, complaining about gentrification means nothing if you don't acquire the land.

Because listen, we also know the land is available. And when I see folks say, well, you know, white folks are coming into our communities, buying up the land. I'm going, okay, but I remember I was in Chicago, and the brother was complaining about that. And I had to ask him, I said, let me ask you a question. Do you rent where you live or do you own? He said, I rent. I said, that means you have no power.

He goes, what do you mean? I said, the person who owns has power. I said, he can jack up your rent. You can't afford it. You got to move out. I said, this is about owning. So what really has to, the conversation that really has to be is not are we trying to, open another business, leasing it from somebody else, but really having a path of owning property

that allows us to be able to build and grow. That's what, that's really what this requires. Right. And you barking up my tree. I mean, it's. And so we're going to talk about it, you know, in the second half with some of the farmers. And right now, you know, we're looking at, And I forgot John Lastert was on, he talked about the number of black farmers right now whose farms are facing foreclosure and the amount of land we're talking about. And I asked him, I said, you know, in terms of being able to preserve that land, he said, you're probably talking anywhere from $30 to $50 million. And that's just, that's really, really where we are. And so we have to be, to me, we cannot have discussions about or look fondly on and talk about, well, this would happen in Mount Bayou, this would happen in Tulsa in Greenwood. Understanding that was because we own the land.

Right now we're having conversations when we're renting. That is not the same conversation. I agree. 100%. here in Mount Bayou, there are plans that we have. My brother and I and then some others have plans to kind of redevelop this area, to bring tourism here, to bring economic progress here to this area. And there are some ideas that we have that we think that, well, we really,

sitting here in the heart of the Mississippi Delta, as we are, there's more history here, I think concentrated than that we give credit for. And I think there's a lot of things that we can do here that we can't do anywhere else in the country. And so we have our eyes on prosperity and progress here in Mount Valle. All right. Well, keep us abreast of those plans. I'm going to go to the break.

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about the plight of black farmers in this country. And a lot of folk got to realize that there are black farmers in this country. There are, and what we're seeing, look at the resources in this country, where do they go to? The larger going to white farmers in Iowa and Illinois and Wisconsin and Nebraska in those places. And a lot of resources bypassing African Americans joining us right now. Three gentlemen who are in the business. First of all, I'm going to go to my far end. Give me your name.

How long you've been farming? My name is Louis Settlis. I've been farming since I was six years old. And how old are you? 71. Gotcha. All right, then. So 71 minus 6, that's a few years.

All right. My name is John Coleman. I've been farming about 50 years, and I'm 57. Okay. I'm Mitchell Williams. I started about 3 or 4. and now I am 89.

All right, then. And you still farming? No, I passed it on a few years ago. But I stayed in it as long as I was able to farm and brought up another generation of young, young grands and great-grands and hopefully that they will

continue to farm. But with the problem that young blacks are facing in financing agency, it makes it very difficult for them to get financing to do the kind of operation that they need to do. Because I can remember the time when I was a boy, when a person would come to my own and anybody want to leave. Pride is like love.

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on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. From where they are, and say, well, we want us to take down from. And they said, no. So what you got? He said nothing. The guy sitting around the search station said, well, I got a, I'll give you 10 pounds of cottonsees.

Another one that looked and said, well, I'll give you 10 pounds of corn. And another one over there would say, well, I got a full mules over there. You can use one of them to bring up your land. And another side, I'll loan you of a cloud. That was the attitude of the farmers back in the days, my little grandchildren called it. and they would get that person a start. And then as we moved on, my brother and I was trying to buy a plot of land

or joining us. Both of us were working in the school system. We couldn't get finances. They told us, you don't have time to farm and teach school. And it was joining us. I was dead. It was living. and as a result

we couldn't get it because of the financing agency that's the problem that was fronted black farmers then and now and now it's very hard

for young black farmers today to get started in farming because of the financial financing situation that they're confronted with and that's what the black farmers are trying to do now

because farm has mechanized a whole lot for when I got started. I was everywhere when I used to walk around that old mew. Right. Put in the planter, put it in everything, every piece of equipment that you farm with then you had to walk behind a

mew. He'd walk in the dust and farm. but now one piece of equipment costs more than an average black farmer, a young black farmer can't start with zero

now because of the system of financing it's not that they don't have the ability and the technology because technology is available from because we have an extension for out there in all

call them, help them with technical assistance. But there's no agency that will finance them. Because they'll tell you some strange thing. I remember my dad was for them trying to get

trying to get money. They want to know how many hens your head and how many were laying. How many eggs did it eat? Or how many eggs did the hatch? Now, this was the kind of thing that they were confronted with in order to try to get financing agencies to operate a farm.

And see, well, a lot of people don't realize. People don't really understand this country that the USDA is the second largest budget in the federal government behind the Pentagon. And what they also don't realize is that the largest federal government bank is in the USDA. They fund a significant number of projects that, traditional banks actually don't fund. That's one of the reasons why under President Biden, Marsha Fudge, former Congressman of Ohio,

she did not want to be the Secretary of HUD. She actually wanted to be Secretary of Agriculture. But Biden chose the Secretary of Agriculture used to be the governor of Iowa, who also served in the same job of Vilsack under Obama. And so, and in fact, Congressman David Scott, who just passed away, was the first African American to head the House Agricultural Committee.

He told me a story that, he told me a story when Ron Delams or one of the other members were on. It was a, it was a white congressman who from the South who said I can guarantee you that

a Negro will never, ever, lead this committee. So when we talk about farming in this country in agriculture, it has been controlled, dominated and operated by white folks in this country. And so even when we're talking about the federal government, even when we're talking about those committees.

And so a lot of people really don't understand the billions of dollars that flow through agriculture in this country and how black folks have been completely left out of that process. I can remember when I was growing up, my dad, he was able to get a loan from what they call pharmaceuticals, home administration. And my dad was always getting his loan in the month of July. We always needed that money during March when the springtime when it started planning.

Every year of my dad, it was going into debt. And in 19... Hold on hold on. I don't want you to speak about that. Because people who don't understand that, okay, who don't understand seasons. So you said they were providing the money in July. July in the summertime. In the summertime.

But you had to hit a certain date in the spring to plant, which meaning he had to front that money and up front, and he's not getting the money until three, four months later. Okay, go ahead. And he was on a lot of the seed companies, parts, stores, for equipment that he had bought. But my dad in 2000, he owed a lot of money to the federal government.

He was about ready to lose his land. You say a lot. What does that mean? About $70,000. He had about 40 acres. And Alcorn State University Extension Program came up and helped him out to reduce his loan to about $2,000. And he was able to pay this loan back off to the federal government. and when my dad was he was kind of he was old and I was asking them dad can I lease your land

and I was able to lease his land and I was able to farm with my dad and I was able to get alone and I was able to put my seeds in the ground and now I am productive as a farmer now because I'm able to get money in time to put my seeds in the ground. And that is a problem right now for a lot of our young farmers. They want to get into the business, but they don't have the operating capital to get in the fields. Well, it's the same thing for, frankly, black-owned businesses that's not in farming. So, for instance, if you have a business, let's just say you get a contract from city, from the state, from the government, someone else. Well, the problem is

many of those people are paying on minimum 90-day term, some as much as 180-day. So, in essence, you've got to float your business from 90 to 180 days, and you're paying your expenses up front.

And that's one of the reasons why when Maynor Jackson was mayor of Atlanta, he set it up where he said that if we're putting our city money into banks, those banks should be providing lines of credit to those black-owned businesses, he said, look, you know we're giving them the contract to provide lines of credit, and then banks abalked. He said, fine, we'll pull out money at your banks.

And so this really is the fundamental reason why our black-owned businesses don't grow. 95% of all black-owned businesses in America do $5 million or less revenue. 95%. 98% of our black-owned businesses have one employee. And so that lack of capital is a massive reason why we do not we're not able to build and grow scale. Now I just want to say one more thing. A lot of my uncles and my cousin, they kind of had help problems because of they was not able to operate, get operating capital for their land. I can remember my cousin Houston when they took some of his land and sold it. he immediately got dementia and he got sick because he was worried about losing his land.

So in the factor of losing our land here in the Mississippi Delta, it's really impacting our health problems because, you know, we're worried. You know, you're worried about your crop and then you're worried about your land at the same time. So we have been a two-factor. I know everybody's talking about we got a lot of health problems here in the Mississippi Delta, but losing something that you fall for for a long time that you bought, that can give you. And your ancestors bought, absolutely.

I see this sound here that y'all had the highest grade of cotton in the world. And so in terms of what are you actually farming? What crops are you farming here in Mountbatia? Well, in Mount Bayou, we probably grow more grain than anything else. I speak right into it, the microphone. In Mountain Bayou, we grow more grain than anything else. Okay. Different forms of grain.

I would like to take you back a little, when the turn Mount Bayou, you know, a lot of people always ask me how did they get the name? And that was because of where it's located. And it was mounds and values. and values. And the land was owned by the President of the Confederacy, Jeff Davis. That's who I call

America's greatest domestic terrorists. But go ahead. Yes, that's I refer to him. I call Don Trump, Donald Trump, the twice impeached, criminally convicted felon con man in chief. And I called Jefferson Davis America's greatest white domestic terrorists.

Go ahead. The land here was the water traveling circular patterns. And it's just fascinated so many people until that's, you know, they started calling it the mounds between the buyers. That's how we got the name mound by you. And the way the story was told, he had no idea what the hell he was doing. Jeff Davis, him or his daddy.

No. That's it? Because they set up a base of operation. down below Vicksburg on the side of the river and they use moving people up here and back there to run their business operation okay and when when the Civil War came they recognized that they wouldn't be able to maintain you know the power structure that they had and then the voting rights things came and it's just black people got more power And that was one thing that hampered our people was we weren't able to, I heard you say a while ago, I'm in a million, someone said I'm in a millionaires there were in this area. And that's where they came from the tree structure that was here in this land. It's a large land area, you know, way more than 30,000 acres, way more than that.

And the tree structure was here is when the northern cities began to build. And those northern cities began to build, the people, black people were the only people here could survive the land. The white people weren't here because they couldn't deal with it. That's what it was. They couldn't deal with it. Our men could get out there and cut the land and then they loaded on barges and ship it and they used it to build those, you know, the bills that was being done in the cities.

And that's what made those millionaires around here. You tell the truth. that were actually me. I learned all this from, you know, my elders because I listened, you know, and they talked and I listened and, you know, and I took it in. And, you know, there's a lot of other stuff I learned, you know, but I, you know, I get someone else a chance to talk. Well, you know, you said soybeans is one of our major crops right now

because of we are falling in the prices. Cotton prices are too low operating inputs are too much. Everybody around here is growing soybeans. rice is down. And we can see a lot of the things that are happening with a lot of government tariffs and things like that. Yeah, Donald Trump's idiotic terrorists have just destroyed because China has not bought a single soybean and what's crazy is. And that's what kills me with these white farmers who were with Trump. I'm like, y'all went broke last time. I mean, this is like just 2.0. He literally

caused massive bankruptcies among many of these white farmers. The first time he was there, And I'm like, well, y'all thought he wouldn't have going to do it again? And so, I mean, he, Donald Trump has single-handedly destroyed the American soybean market internationally through these tariffs. Because soybeans were sold to China and China was doing a lot of swine production. We was getting a lot of pork from China and we were selling them soybean. So now the soybean production, we're trying to get that trade back together with China so we can have, We're growing a lot of soybean. How have y'all have been impacted by rising costs in fertilizer as a result of this war with Iran?

Input costs, you know, diesel, fertilizer, seeds, chemical, all these things. When you go in there, in the previous year, you have a budget that you want to plan for. But in this season, everything has went above our budget that we're growing now. What, 20, 30, 40 percent? Oh, 50 percent, we can say. because gas prices was $2.98. Now it's $4.30 right now. Oh, but I thought Trump said he was going to lower those prices.

Didn't he say that? I thought he said Comlow was going to cause gas prices to go up. Yeah, okay. We knew how that went. We know how that went. And fertilizer have double, triple. So the thing that you really want to grow right now is soybean. You don't have that much input cost in there.

Okay. You talked about your grandkids and others in passing it or down. You also said that a lot of young folks want to get into agriculture. But is it also trying to get another new generation to understand? The reality is agriculture has completely changed from what it used to be. So when we talk about agriculture, there's a different way to actually look at this business. Because listen, we're talking a multi-billion-dollar business. I think for a lot of African Americans, when they think agriculture,

they literally think, oh, my God, I'm going to be on my hands and knees out there, dealing with land, dealing with dust. But the industry has completely changed. We can see our founder, I'm going to this move. We can see our founders, IT Montgomery, when they came to Mount Bayou, they was thinking about agriculture. And when they came into this town that they purchased a lot of the land. And I can remember what my dad told me about my granddaddy when they moved from Uniontown, Alabama to Panther Bar in Mississippi.

They came up and I had to Montgomery showed them some land west of Mount Bayou and they was able to purchase that land. So agriculture is what we was born on. That's what we came over in this country for to do was agriculture work. So now... But free. So that is what. One of the biggest industry we have, even in the Mississippi Delta. You want to say something? Go ahead.

Yeah, one of the biggest things that the young people are facing today is financing to get started. Because I think somewhere on the application, the question is, do you have any experience? If you've been working with your daddy or your mama there, you have some experience. But they don't count that as a part of the expense on your application. and it has totally gotten mechanized not because when I was walking behind the mule

I didn't ever think I could be sent up on the tractor on the air condition you know working my crops not but look how expensive that a piece of equipment is for me to ride with all that comfort GPS air condition GPS got a radio you're chilling one of the things we have to watch but it's you know and a young it's hard to for a young farmer to start with those kinds of expenses. One of the things we have to watch is, see, that's the whole thing with the, you know, the computer movement is to evade the direct responsibility.

See, if they computerize everything, then, you know, it's not like they can tell this man or me or you that, you know, we know we're doing wrong, we should do it. It's a machine, you know, and the, you know, And the machines, if they can get the votes like you're talking about, where they can set up the programs to do exactly what they want the programs to do, then it doesn't matter, you know, what human beings say and think,

whether you, you know, black, white, red, yellow, whatever. That machine, they're going to convey the manipulation and running of this society over to that machine, which means they're, you know, they are de facto and control. And they know the answer to every question. Well, I know you were talking about the Mississippi Delta. And I know you was talking about Mississippi. You're trying to say it's one of the poorest state in the union. It is.

I know. But if you carve the Mississippi Delta out of the state of Mississippi, Mississippi will be number one in everything. Right here, the Delta is where we're mainly black. We're like 70% black. and the economy for us is not there. You have our counterpart, they are on large plantations

and large acres of land that they can be able to be productive citizens. We just are just struggling because we don't have that economic and monetary in our back pocket. So we are talking about Mississippi We're talking about Alabama, but it's just a part that we are in as black people. We're in those poor parts.

Yeah, because, I mean, that was designed that way, and it was designed to keep us locked out of the economic system. And, I mean, that is just simply the reality. And so we see this all across the country. So even if you talk about Black Belt in Alabama, you talk about Mississippi Delta, but all of a sudden you go to certain parts of Houston or Dallas or the large cities, the exact same thing applies. And that is, and that's one of the things that we're always talking about being frozen out of the system.

That's one of the reasons why, again, when I connect the dots with black power, if you look at CDFIs, community development financial institutions, one of the biggest supporters of CDFIs is Congresswoman Maxine Waters. Well, if Democrats control the House, she's chair of the House Financial Services Committee. So she has played a role in driving billions of dollars to those institutions. When you talk about, okay, if Democrats, like it cracks me up when I listen to all these those simple assignments out here who whine and complain trying to say, oh, man, you sitting here, you shilling for Democrats, facts are facts.

If Democrats control the House, Congressman Bobby Scott is over the committee that's driving education money. The reason Alcorn State, the reason HBCUs got $17 billion under Biden Harris was because Bobby Scott was the chair of that committee. He was the driving force of that money. And so when we talk about losing political power, he's in Virginia. His seat is safe. But when you start talking about losing seats in Florida, if you lose figures in Seoul and Alabama, you lose Thompson in Mississippi, You lose your seat in Memphis and Tennessee.

You lose the first congressional district, Don Davis, in North Carolina. You lose potentially two seats in Georgia. We've lost two in Texas. Again, you now don't have the ability of your people chairing committees being over those committees to drive resources. And so that's what I'm trying to constantly convey to our all. audience that we can't just be looking at politics in a one-dimensional way. We have to recognize, and then I love the people who say, well, we shouldn't be big in the government. These same white folks go to the same government to get money. Trust me, I don't know of a single white

farmer that said, yeah, we're not going to take that $25 billion, y'all set aside. And so they are taking advantage of those resources. And so we just have to understand that as well. Final comment, final comment, and that is, if there's, for next generation, if there's somebody out there who's watching, somebody who's listening, and they are interested in going to the agriculture business, what's the one piece of advice you have for them? I'll start here. One thing I would say is, you know, take a long, hard look,

and you're willing to spend some time doing some research and be acceptable whatever comes up in your site. We have some... And get some comfortable shoes. Go ahead. We have some HBCUs, UAPB, All Quine State University, Southern, and Alabama, A&M, some of these universities that they can go ahead and get them a career there. agriculture is still the heartbeat of America and you will always have to eat three times a day

breakfast, lunch, and dinner and these farmers right here are the ones that feed you every day. I know I had some great ribs across the street earlier so go ahead, I'm sorry. I would tell them to you, you have to go there with patient, hard work and persistent because they're going to tell you no the first time but you can't accept that no

you have to go back and regroup and come back again because they're going to try to disencourage you all they can in every way that they can to keep you from getting into that part of the big industry which is farming. The agriculture is a big industry. Yes, sir. All right then. And so I'm going to do this here.

I was, again, I'm always given stats because I want people to understand how the money works. And so earlier when I mentioned, so you take COVID relief, Alcorn got some $66 million in COVID relief. But then when I look at funding, that additional funding that came, let me pull it. pull this up because this was a I got this from Congressman Jim Clyburn we were pulling up the numbers and I was trying to walk people through

what the numbers actually looked like and the additional money the additional money that Alcorn received was let me go here Alcorn received additional $25 million

and so I'm saying that because Because people need to understand, again, when we have black representation, we have folk who are on the inside advocating for us. And so all of that absolutely matters. We appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Folks, when we come back, we'll have more from Mountain Bayou, Mississippi, right here, Roland Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. This week at the Black Table, we discuss a place, an idea, a dream, and a reality that everybody on the planet should know about, a place called.

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Hey everybody, I'm T.D. Jackson, I want to encourage you to watch Roland Martin unfiltered. It'll blow your mind. All right, folks, welcome back, Mountbigh, Mississippi. Right here, I'm Roland Martin Unfiltered. Obviously, when we talk about Mississippi, Megger Evers played a huge, huge role of fighting for black folks

in this state. And, of course, massive tie-in to mound by you. Mayor Johnson comes back and he decided to bring his daddy. You know black people. I always want to do a shout-out. So, so introduce your dad. Well, this is Herman Johnson. Herman came here in the 50s and he came here with a letter from his Southern University professor to give it to Dr. TRM Howard. And in that letter, it was introducing my dad, and my dad came to pick my mom up and go to Chicago,

but Dr. Howard kept him here because Mega Evers had just, he had just sent Megan Evers to Jackson, so he needed somebody to field of seating. That's how my dad ended up here in Mountbite, Mississippi. And you never left? I'm still here. You're still here. Still here.

Tell, for the folks watching and listening, the experience of being here, during that period. And you're talking about 1950, so now we're talking 76 years. If you don't mind, let me just say real quick. When I came here, Mount Bayou was jumping. Now, and I came here because my aunt was here,

and she had come and told my mother about Mount Bowie. Mount Bowie had a first black swimming pool, the high board and low board. It had the first zoo for black people probably in the state. It had tennis. Just hold the microphone wrap to you. There you go. It had so much that the other towns in the area didn't have.

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I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dr. Howard said, you take this job. And I took Meg Aver's job. And I worked with Magnuery Music for Life Insurance. company until we until the clan got so hard on him they said

he was going to kill him and he left and went to Chicago and started a medical facility called the green parrot in because he had a green

parrot in a place here that people all over the state were coming to to eat now I was kind of small then And I would see the people in eating big old watermelon and the picture of the water and the water was brown. I thought it would be a little bit of watermelon that he was serving to them. But anyway, he started the Green Parrot Inn.

And in the Green Parrot Inn in Chicago, interesting thing, and I just like to say, that he was the first medical facility in the state of Illinois. that was prepared for, what was it? He was ready for abortions. No other place in the state of Illinois is ready for abortions. And the white people got mad at him because they said, this black man is going to make too much money.

But the interesting thing, too, in this story that's not told by everybody, Jay Edgar Hoover, who was bad on black people that was in civil rights. When they stopped Dr. Howard for ambulance chasing in Chicago, because he was working for S.P. Fuller. And they stopped him saying he was ambulance chasing. And he said, well, when they, and he took in court, he said when they come to me, they say, hey, I don't know anybody that has ever, seen the pain.

And you tell me you've ever seen the pain, so I'll give them for what they said if they needed. But anyway, the interesting thing, and I swear it in the Pittsburgh occur, that J. Edgar Hoover, who was so bad old black people, all older, the United States,

he supported Dr. Howard, complimented him for what he did in Mississippi. And I was surprised. Well, that's because Jay Okieuva was actually secretly black. This is, you were talking about, you were talking about taking Metc's ever's place. He was to the point that he left his typewriter, and so was on display over here. It's this typewriter over here.

Anthony, don't tear up the museum, dog. I'm just messing with you. So we got that. So we got your photo over there, man, get that shot steady, dog, of a typewriter here. So that's what you worked on? Well, you know, the typewriter and the chair That's like a look heavy So the chair in the day, so he left everything

He was like Well, when when he left, of course He went to the state for NWACP field director I took his place And when we had to close We had closed about two years later We closed Magnolia Mew's life insurance company So I brought the furniture home

Because somebody had to have us So I brought the desk, typewriter, and chair. And I kept it, and my son grew up using that typewriter. My daughter grew up using the typewriter. And we know anything about it. They didn't know that it was Mega Ever. I didn't tell them because at that time, Mega Ever's name had not become important. But anyway, later on, after he did become, you know, a known nationally.

Megger Evers and later on Marina Evers who was Megg Evers' daughter came to do a speech in Mount Bavir and she came to my house and I

sat in the chair and desk and typewriter and I typed in the typewriter this is a typewriter that came from Magnolia Lachio that your daddy owned when he was and she said him cried but anyway That was just an interesting story

that I brought from Nagnoia to my home and now I'm sitting in the museum. Darry, Sheriff for folks, this will be the last question before I go to break and bring up our final guest. You have to sign over here.

Share for folks who never heard of this connection between Mount Bayou and Emmett Till until they actually saw the movie. That's right. A lot of people didn't not know. They don't tell us.

our history, but here's the deal. Mamie Till's comes to Mississippi. She's coming to a racist dark state. Mount Bayou is the light. It's the lighthouse. It's the place of sanctuary. And Dr. T.R.M. Howard actually pulled her in, not only her, but other journalists and other people, white and black. They were protected when they came to Mount Bay Inn. It was the place, and it had become a place of sanctuary for years where people knew that if I can get to Mount Bayou, this is where I could be safe. So this was what it was, and Mamie Till

was part of that, and of course she had relatives here in Mount Bayer. But Dr. Howard also had people in his house that took care of her as far as security as concerned. And then a lot of secret stuff. My dad used to drive Dr. Howard around. And he could hide a gun in his car

and you never could find it. So you got secrets, huh? Well, look, I had the opportunity to drive it around. But let me tell you something a lot of people don't know, is that Mount Bayou was a sanctuary. If anybody got into trouble all around the state of Mississippi, and if they made it to Mount Bower, they were safe.

That was it. Because we had it, you don't know it. We had an underground railroad station in a hotel here in Mount Ballyer. and the mayor and the police and they knew who it was but if you made it to Mount Bayou, the next time you heard of it, you were in Chicago, New York, or St. Louis. They don't know how you got, where you got.

Just make it to the hotel. You made it Mount Bayou, you disappeared. We took care of me either way. It took care of. This is a sanctuary city. And the policing didn't come to Mount. Bavir, they had to check with the police in Mount Bavir before they come in. That's right.

And it was a long time before they started making, try to make that way into Mount Bavir. That's right. But anyway. Well, they figured out what y'all were doing. Yeah. All right then. Well, look, I appreciate you sharing those stories with us. Thank you so very much.

I appreciate the opportunity. All right, thanks. And again, you said you came here in 1950. And so how all are you now? 97. 97. All right, then. We'll appreciate it.

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and I'm watching a Black Star Network. Folks, you heard you mentioned earlier the type of cotton that was here in Mound Bayou. It was, you see the sign right here. It said the highest grade of cotton in the world. And joining us right now is Dr. Sadie, no, Dr. Shade. I did it on purpose. Dr. Shade, Turner, Spee, Executive. director of the Cotton Pickers of America Historic Site. Glad to have you here. So what is the

cotton picking cotton pickers historic site? We're going to explain that. Well, it is a tribute to Grandma now. It is finally our effort, our very intentional effort to say thank you for picking all that damn cotton. No one has honored them throughout. I get emotional about them. I get emotional about this thing? Because can you imagine, and I know you can, out there picking that cotton from Ken to Cainte six days a week, and how much did you make? How many thanks did you get? And for us not to acknowledge and pay respect and show our children how to be respectful of that work and honor them in a way that is dignified and just they are so worthy of everything I can imagine. Explain that because what you have is you have a lot of people who do not want to talk about any of that.

When movies come out, folks will say, oh, man, we don't need another slave movie. We don't need another. And I'm always going, y'all, I'm like, y'all act like it's a lot of them and it's not. And what I've often said is that, as earlier you talked about controlling narrative, that the problem that we have is we are looking at those movies as if we are victims. When I say, no, when I look at folk who went through shadow slavery, who went through reconstruction, who went through Jim Crow, I said, no, those are heroes without capes. what they endured. And so part of that, to your point, is showing respect to those ancestors

and not act as if they were irrelevant. And by saying, oh, I don't even bring them up. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear anything celebrating the picking of cotton. Let me be clear. First of all, I'm an educator. I'm a retiring professor from Jackson State University, the olive. Okay. But the thing is, is that... You know this all-corn territory. Don't be coming to his thought, no mess. Don't me tell me here, start no mess. Valley, who here? Mississippi Valley State. Come on now. You start mess. So I'm going back to Valley, which was a cotton field, by the way, and grew up into a university, the youngest HBCU. But I want to make the point of education because it's that. How was it the narrative? You know, how did you

talk about this thing? How did people learn about this thing? How degrading and so horrible was the description of that work. We need to put some dignity on that stuff. And, you know, the agency in owning the fact that we built this country picking that cotton. This became the cotton kingdom. And the king

of cotton was Benjamin T. Montgomery, the father of Isaiah T. Montgomery and Benjamin Green who started this. I mean, that whole narrative is amazing. And most folks don't know nothing about it. But this effort is headed up. Our original and inaugural chair

was Dr. Maya Angelou who wrote a special poem in tribute to our effort here, our mandate, our marching artists. When she passed, B.B. King became our honorary chair. Now it's Bobby Rush. But Ed Dwight, the man

who went to the moon with Jeff Basil's shuttle or whoever... Ed Dwight, who was actually the first black astronaut. Exactly. He is the developer of the monument. He has the whole game plan. I just spoke with him on yesterday and he's saying, Shadda, you better hurry up and get this thing because he's 93. So he has 133 monuments already in play in this country on African American history.

And he is saying he has done all of that to be able to do this cotton pick a monument. All right. So explain to us this monument. Anthony, where are you? I need a shot of this. I need a shot of the monuments right behind you. Yeah. It's the man, woman, and child looking for a brighter day. and Mr. Herman Johnson wrote the poem that describes what this monument is saying, and we have published it in a book called Field Hollers and Freedom Song. So thank you, Mr. Johnson, for your beautiful poem and your contribution. It is who he too was a part of the original board, along with Sylvester Hoover,

the two gentlemen here, that we're a part of the initial and original board of directors to get this monument built. All right, so, so where would this monument be placed? I'm by you. And, okay, what do you need? How far long are you? Well, we need $30 million. Somebody out there write us to check real quick right now.

So to build this monument, what are we the size of this monument? This monument will be on, it's a historic park. Right. And it will extend to Mississippi Valley State University. We're still negotiating that. But at all 18 counties that represent the Cotton Kingdom, we will have a shotgun house interpretive center. Okay. And so here, we're still negotiating land space, but we're working with the Johnsons in that regard as well, too.

Got it. And what would be the size of the monument? 30 feet. 30 feet? Yeah. So the 30 million is for the money and the whole project. The whole project. Got you.

The whole project. What role does the state play in this? Are they embracing this or not? Let me just say that we haven't asked for the money yet because we were getting the narrative story right. I got my PhD around this whole thing, right? Getting and doing this research. It is amazing.

First of all, Cottonton is not indigenous to North America. It is indigenous to Africa. We brought the seed. We brought the gin. We brought the skills. We brought the people who knew how to plant and pick cotton and make it into what it has become. The number one commodity of all commodities for over 200 years.

All profits that were made did not equate to the monies that were made in cotton. We got to understand that. And that's because we wouldn't pay, right? That's why they made so much money. That's why all these white folks still rich on trust fund accounts. Thank you very much. Because they didn't pay their workers. They didn't pay us.

So again, we have to make that demand. And who is it? Frederick Douglass and said, you ain't going to get nothing until you demand it. And so you got to know what you know and know that grandmom and them did this work and trusting that we will benefit from their labor. So where's our demand for that?

Reparations? Okay. Retribution? Okay. Whatever our word you want to use, we got to be the one to make that demand. And so I'm just saying, This is a very important first step.

And it was John Jarvis, our president, Barack Obama's National Park Director, when I was telling him about it because we wanted to become a national park. Once we build it, let the country take care and protect this thing for the life of this country. He said, it's time. So again, so for the whole project is $30 million. Yes. to get the statute done. What is that?

Yeah, that part is broken down. It has a whole complete budget broke down. And I'm not... How much is it? I can't remember. I think it's about two men. It's about two... I think it's about two million.

All right. Because you already said the man 93. I know. So the whole thing is get the money to build a monument. So at least the monument is done. Hey, rolling, it's two million. Like, y'all... Okay.

Okay, let's... Yeah, we can just get it. I know you are not, no, no, no, no, see, Doc, right there, see. See, Doc, let me real clear. I'm not greedy. Let me real clear. You can't get 30 unless you get two. Okay, that's right.

You can't get two. Can't get five until you're leaving. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. So, like you said, the man, 93. So if we at least get the monument built. If we at least get the monument built, we can say thank you, and then you go.

There you go. So I'm just saying, Doc, next time you do a TV show, come with the number. Don't be saying I don't know. I got on my computer I see the whole picture But no You gotta break that thing down See you're trying to complicate this

Okay I'm trying to get it done No you see We want it all over the thing Okay you're a preacher You need to explain to her About how to raise money Okay she ain't doing this right

She ain't doing this right You got to pass the house No you see you ain't doing this right Let's help her out She ain't doing this right Look I know how to raise money You ain't doing this right We need you on board by the way

sitting here saying, I don't know. We need that kind of help. I got out a legal pad at my house. No, that ain't going to do it. Oh, my computer. Okay, so again, what is your projected timeline? When would you like to have the money raised and the project done? Yeah.

It is a three-year process and building it out completely. And so now is the time that we're truly launching for the funding process. We haven't asked for the money because it's like I always felt, It's only going to take one or two checks, Oprah. No, no, it ain't going to take one or two checks. It could. No, it's not. It could.

I believe. No, it's, okay, first of all, as somebody, look, Alpha Phi Alpha Return Incorporated led the building of the MLK. You know you right now, that was not one or two checks. It was a series of small checks. So my whole point is, you don't wait. Look, this show right here. We don't, all the people, it's only one prominent person that's given to this show.

One. This show has been built and has survived for seven and a half years because of 47,000 people who have given $1,5,000, $25. So that's what I'm saying. So next question, Doc, what is the website of people to go to? Do you have your donate link up on the site? Don't tell me you ain't got no time. No, you know, I ain't going to tell you ain't got no site, no links. You don't have a site?

Of course we got this site. What's the site? What's the site? And there are four different ways that you can. Hold on, hold up. Let's make sure the website up, cotton pickers. Dot us. Okay, all right, go.

Go. Keep going. Oh, and two, on your points about the monuments, because my sister, who you know very well, Julianne, Malvo, she was involved in pulling together the monument for Fannie Lou Hamer. Okay, so I'm on y'all site right now, Doc.

So y'all have seen monetary donations. Y'all got cash app in Venmo. Okay, I'm going to need you to add PayPal. PayPal is. PayPal, not on. Doc, I'm on the website. Okay, come on now. Doc, I'm way ahead of you.

It's another link then. It's in there. Okay. Look, y'all can go and explore the website. I told you, I know how to raise money. So many ways to donate. Okay, let me go. Even mailing a check.

Okay, hold up. I'm checking. I'm checking. Bank it payable to Coffray, Inc. We are a 501C3. not-for-profit organization here based in Indiana, Mississippi. And so we've been at this since 2009. Okay, so, Doc, let me give you some advice.

Okay, so here's the problem. If you click the donate button, if you click menu and you click donate, it only goes to PayPal. Okay, so that's PayPal's the third one. Right, no, no, no, but you need to hold Donate page. So when you just say it's in a check and everything, that's not on here. So you need to, whoever's doing your website, They need to change your donate page.

And on a donate page, they need to have PayPal, cash app, Venmo, Zelle, and the address. All that right there on the page. So the problem is on your main page, it only has cash app in Venmo. But if you click to donate, it only goes to PayPal. So you need to change the donate page. Okay.

Clarice, do you hear that? Who? Clary's Norton. Okay, Clarees Norton. Clarice, let me help you out. Also, Clarees, on your homepage, Clarees, you got the money too low. So you need to have the money, Clarees, at the top of the page.

The money is never too low. Put the money up top. Like at the top. At the top, always put the money up top. I'm just saying, okay? That's what you got to. I'm just saying what we got to do. Look, our fans have given $5 million in seven years.

So we know where to put the money. And so folks, do this here. Cottonpickers.us. competters. go to the website. Y'all can read all the information. It's a lot of great information on here. I'm looking at it right now.

And you can support this as well. Anything else you got to say? Yeah, please support this effort to say thank you to Grandma and them for picking all that damn cotton. All right then. All right. Shade, I appreciate it. Yes.

I got it. All right, here we go. Okay. So explain the seeds of Hope, Garden, Indianola, plant your garden and make it grow. Explain this. Yes, we were talking about how youth can be and should be involved

in this agricultural land ownership, planting the seeds, make them grow effort. We have something that is going to be a template and a model for all of the Delta to follow, and that is they're going to have their own little plots

of land next to the House of Caprae in Indianola downtown and we have an acre curve property where we're coordinating off six feet by six feet. And so we have the kids who will be monitoring and planting their own garden and making it grow. But we need y'all to help them. So you need to come through and help them show them how to do it. And then they will be planting their own little strawberries, their own little grains and onions or tomatoes or whatever they want. And these beautiful structures that we have developed for them, very artistically created with cinder

blocks and walls of, you know, how you can plant stuff on the walls. So if people want to do that, so y'all are doing an orientation informational meeting and walk through on Saturday, May 9th at noon. Yes. So people want to get more information. What site do they go to? I don't see it on here. I'm sorry?

Where do they go? Is there a website they go to? Oh, yeah. That, again, it's the cotton pickers that you are. So this is on here as well. So this information, the Seeds of Hope, is on Cotton Pickers. dot us. All right y'all. So you want more information on the Seasons of Hope, go to cotton pickers.com. And check it out. Sharday, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm not going to take a break. So I need you to come on up. We were talking, we were talking earlier, Herman and Darrell. So explain to us. So the story has gone around that said that Trump's white Afrikaans or South Africa were invading Mound Bayou. And so we were chatting about that. So what is going on with that? story. Can you explain to us? Well, I can tell you how it happened. Got it. Because the story is gone all around, and black folks are posted by saying, oh, Lord Trump's white people are coming in and taking over the black town. And go ahead.

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And he had been going around, he had been to Greenwood, he had been to other places in the Delta, and he was collecting quotes about the people coming from South Africa, the whites coming from South Africa, working in the farms in the Mississippi Delta. My response to him immediately, because I had people in here, and I said, look, I don't know too much about it, but, you know, you may find other people around here in town who know something about that. He said, well, just give me a quote. give me a couple of quotes and that's it

well I can give you a couple of quotes because I have seen the people and so I told them what I knew about it and that was it the next thing I know a few days later the whole story

is about how it's coming to Mount Bayou and impacting the people in Mount Bayou which was not the case it was dumb I'm like literally I'm looking at this first of all to the control room

I'm going to drop this in our group mate so I want you to pull it up I'm going to read from some of it and it was done by, and in fact, the Jackson, Clarean Ledger ran the story. The headline said Mississippi historic black farming hub hit as white South Africans take farm jobs. This is by the China Central Television. The lead said in Mount Bayou, Mississippi, which once stood as a proud symbol of

African-American self-governance, unemployment among African-American residents is soaring as white South African farm workers feel local roles under U.S. visa programs, often earning more than locals. And it says for years, Mexican laborers dominated these positions, but with the U.S. government dramatically tightening immigration policies, Mexican workers have largely stopped coming, creating job vacancies that South Africans have rushed to field. So is that happening? Here?

No, step up. Step up. Okay, explain. So what's going on? First of all, what's your name? My name is Charles. I got the microphone. Put your hands down.

All right. I know. I got it. What's your name? I name Charles Motley, President of Sunflower County, NAAACP. Sunflower County, NWACP. Okay, got you. So what is going on? Well, South African came here to farm in the NOLA.

They've been coming for years. How far has Eniola from here? 30 minutes. And so they have been coming to the NARNNOR for years. And what has been happening is that they'll come over from South Africa, and they'll do the same jobs that black people, were doing it in order for years, but they were getting paid more. Ty Pinkinson, that was part of the Mississippi Center for Justice,

had on that case about four years ago, so he was able to get money for the black farmers that was being neglected for pay. Now you got about seven paid. I took that case to the Mississippi Center for Justice. And so right now, they're saying that since that happened, they're trying to do the same thing in my body, Mississippi. That's what's happening.

So it's no truth to it. but they noticed South Africa came here to work in the fields, and it was probably thinking they was going to do the same thing here in Mount Bayou that they did in the end of the North Carolina. Jal's saying that that is not going to happen to Mount Bayou. It can't happen to Mount Bayou. Okay, got it. That is not our narrative. So you're saying they can go to many other places,

but they're not going to be coming here taking farm and jobs in Mount Bay Area. I can't see a black farmer hiring a white South Africa. and the white farmers, I mean, black farmers are here. So why are they hiring white, black, white stuff ever? Got it. So Italian and white farmers are ones who are recruiting them. Around the outside. What y'all was saying is they ain't going to be farming in Mount Bayou.

There you go. Okay. Rolla, let me just say. We just want to clear that up. Go ahead. Let me just say, see, this is the thing. They assume coming from another country, they assume that they just keep walking and keep walking it. Let me go into this black.

where these folks are in here. And then they say Mount By it, but they didn't know where they were. So they thought that they could put all of that together. I'm just trying to figure out why even Jackson newspaper would run that. Like, they don't even know where this is. Yeah, but it was an article. Got it. Yeah, so just run the article.

They know how to check it. Right. But again, no, this is also why black on media is important to be, because again, when I saw the story, I was like, hold up, wait a minute, what? I'm like, white Afrikanos rolling up in a black town. I'm like, I said, so when we had to show in Shreepa, I was like, hey, let's go ahead and roll on down there,

and then we can do a show from there and then find out exactly what's going on. So, because I just knew y'all weren't going to be cool with them, with them white Afrikaner refugees rolling up in Mount Bayou. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, okay, I'm glad we got that straightened out. The pants are too short anyway. Huh? The pants were too short. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but also they're two pale.

saying. And I'm surely don't think black people in Mississippi going to be cool was some folk coming from apartheids from these formerly apartheid folks. Exactly. I'm just saying. All right. I appreciate the hospitality. Thanks for everybody for being on the show. Thank you so very much. It was great coming here.

And I really want to folk to learn the history. So folks, obviously, they can't come here. Where can they go online to learn about Mount Bayou, Mississippi history? Moundbue Museum.org. mound bayoumuseum.org. Okay. And also, folks, they've got a number of books and mugs and shirts and things along those lines that you can also get to support.

I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. And we got a donate button at the top of our website. There's go. Charday. We do. Chate. Charday.

What's her name? What's her name? Clarissa. What's her name? Clarice Norton. She's in Jamaica. Clarice. My niece in Jamaica.

Clarice. I'm a niece. you Claire Reese to change that website. Okay, to get that donate page straight. She got you. All right. Get that donate page straight. All right, y'all. That is it for us. I appreciate. Again, with a great time last night

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You've only been parked a short time, and it's already 99 degrees in there. Let's not leave children in the back seat while running errands. It only takes a few minutes for their body temperatures to rise, and that could be fatal. Cars get hot, fast, and can be deadly. Never leave a child in a car. A message from Nitsa and the Ad Council. On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dick and Poll show are geniuses. We can explain how AI works, data centers,

but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand. Better version of Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually thought it was. I got that wrong. But hey, no one's perfect. We're pretty close, though.

Listen to the Nick Dick and Poll show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.