#RolandMartinUnfiltered - MS House Bill Hearing on Capitol Police Expansion, AAMA's New President, Biden Clapbacks at Reporter

Episode Date: May 11, 2023

5.10.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: MS House Bill Hearing on Capitol Police Expansion, AAMA's New President, Biden Clapbacks at Reporter A face-off in a Mississippi courtroom on the constitutionality o...f House Bill 1020.  A law that will expand capitol police jurisdiction into Jackson, Mississippi, and create a new court system.  One of the attorneys from the case will join us tonight to tell us what happened at today's hearing. We will delve into the essential topic of respecting and pronouncing people's names correctly.  We'll show you a viral video clip from a UK talk show sparking conversation and debate. Dark Biden is back!  Joe Biden shut down a reporter trying to give him pushback on handling the debt ceiling.  We will show you how Biden politely claps back at the reporter. The African American Mayors Association has a new president.  She'll be here to discuss the priorities of black mayors nationwide for the upcoming year. Black Star has launched a new show!  I'll talk to Dee Barnes, the host of Black Star Network's new show, The Frequency. In tonight's Tech Talk, the first black-owned personal finance platform, SoLo Funds, provides capital access to people who find it difficult to borrow money from traditional financial institutions. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:27 taser incorporated on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts today is wednesday may 10 2023 coming up on roland martin unfiltered streaming live on the black star network a standoff in the miss the Mississippi courtroom as Republicans in that state want to expand this capital complex that really covers where all the white folks in Jackson, Mississippi live. Of course, they had a legal hearing today. We'll tell you exactly what took place in the courtroom. Also, folks, we'll talk about the issue of what happens when you cannot pronounce my name right. Well, guess what? It's a viral video coming out of the UK where a sister was
Starting point is 00:02:13 like, nah, we ain't going on until you get my name right. So we're going to show you that video as well. Also, I can't stand when Washington, D.C. reporters ask stupid questions and they haven't even read the damn bill, but they want an answer. Damn, President Joe Biden just embarrassed a White House reporter. Wait until we show you that video. Also, folks, the African-American Mayors Association, they've got a new president. She'll join us to talk about her priorities are going to be. Also, we've got a new show on the Black Star Network. Dee Barnes will join us to talk about her life, been, of course, a hip-hop pioneer and what's in store. Plus, lion-ass George Santos. He got arrested today
Starting point is 00:02:59 and he said, I ain't quitting. Don't worry about it. You going to prison, though. We'll tell you all about it. It's time to bring the funk on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine. And when it breaks, he's right on time. And it's Roland.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Best belief he's knowing. Putting it down from sports to news to politics. With entertainment just for kicks. He's rolling. It's on for a roll, y'all. It's rolling, Martin. Rolling, it's rolling now. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real
Starting point is 00:03:48 The best you know, he's Rollin' Martel Now Martel Now look, I've been telling y' all about this bill in Mississippi where Republicans want to expand the state police force and also create their own court, if you will, for this particular area. Well, they went to court today and a judge is considering whether a section of this bill violates the state constitution. It's House Bill 1020. It would expand the jurisdiction of the state-run Capitol Police in Jackson and create a temporary court within the Capitol Complex Improvement District covering a portion of the city. Now, a lawsuit against this specifically takes issue with the requirement
Starting point is 00:04:35 that Mississippi Supreme Court Chief Justice will be able to appoint four judges to the new temporary court in the Capitol Complex Improvement District. State lawmakers say the takeover is needed in Jackson, but opponents continue to measure lax judicial authority under the state's law. Chancery Judge Dwayne Thomas said he could rule Friday or Sunday on the merits of the bill. Blake Feldman is Impact Policy Counsel for the Mississippi Center for Justice. He joins me now from Jackson. All right, Blake, here's what's crazy about this here. I have yet to see any data from any Republican that explains why they must expand this and why they need a separate court.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I hear, oh, crime increase. But this is not covering all of Jackson. It's only around the Capitol. Right. So what we're challenging is this new CCID court as an illegitimate court. But also throughout the state of Mississippi, you have circuit courts. Circuit court judges hear felonies. They hear serious criminal cases and serious civil cases. They are elected.
Starting point is 00:05:42 All residents of all 82 counties in Mississippi get to elect their circuit court judges. Hines County, which is a majority black county that Jackson is within, has four elected circuit court judges. They are all black. What this bill requires is the chief justice to appoint four more circuit court judges. So instead of tens of thousands of majority black electorate choosing their own judiciary, unlike the other 81 counties, in Hines, the white Chief Justice of the Supreme Court will be able to choose by himself four. That would be half of the circuit court bench. So that is those four temporary appointments that we are challenging. But like you said, on top of that, this bill has created this new capital complex improvement district
Starting point is 00:06:40 court. It's an illegitimate court. It's not an inferior court, which is what the state is trying to argue. And this would be where misdemeanor cases are held. So instead of the people of Jackson getting to elect their mayor who appoints a municipal court judge or electing county court judges, This is the Chief Justice choosing the judge for this brand new court that's unlike any court in the state of Mississippi, where someone convicted of something like public disturbance or disturbing the peace, unlike anywhere else in the state,
Starting point is 00:07:20 will be sent to state prison. So for especially black residents of Jackson who have heard oral stories and oral history of the civil rights movement and what they did to people charged with disturbance of the peace being sent to Parchman, 1020 says if you're convicted of those minor offenses in this brand new court with a judge appointed by the white chief justice and prosecutors appointed by the white attorney general, you will be sent to the Mississippi Department of Corrections. Okay, but here's what is still crazy to me. Okay, so they claim that this is needed because
Starting point is 00:08:01 of dramatic increase in crime. Okay, why don't they simply then fund more courts for Jackson? Okay, we've been hearing from people saying that Jackson police are leaving the police department to go to the state police. Okay, Republicans and legislature, fund more cops for Jackson. No, what this is, these are largely white Republicans in Mississippi who want to use their power to control an area of Jackson. They've been trying to take over the airport. They've been trying to take over. Now they want to, after the mayor came to D.C. and got $600 million,
Starting point is 00:08:40 now they want to take over the water system. We could go on and on and on and on. We see this in Missouri where Republicans want to take over the water system. We could go on and on and on and on. We see this in Missouri where Republicans want to take over the St. Louis Police Department. They want to take over the circuit attorney's position. That's one of the reasons why Kim Gardner resigned. These are folks who do not believe in local control when they are not in control? Yes. This bill really demonstrates the legislature of Mississippi does not trust giving resources
Starting point is 00:09:15 to Black-led cities, to Black-led counties, and they do not trust the vote with Black people. It's paternalistic. It's white supremacist. It's paternalistic, it's white supremacist, it's we know better than you, and this is how we think the city should be run.
Starting point is 00:09:37 As far as data that's been provided, there is none actually a past version of, or the current version says by next year, data has to be handed over to the legislature for them to decide if the caseloads in the Hines County Circuit Court merit there being five circuit court judges instead of four. So they're saying, if you give us data that shows that you need five elected judges instead of four, we'll give it to you. Hold on, hold on. I'm confused. I'm confused. I'm confused. So you got a year to give us data if you need a fifth court, but without any data, we're going to create four courts. Oh, by the way, Jackson residents, y'all going to pay for these four courts and then we're going to figure it
Starting point is 00:10:38 out. That's as backwards. Exactly. It's with judges, but it is the circuit court benches for elected judges. They're saying if you show us data that it needs to be five in the largest county in the state instead of four, we will give you one more elected. But without presenting that data, we are deciding that you do need four appointed. So half of the bench will be elected, whereas 100% of the circuit court bench is elected in all the other counties. But in Hines County, you get to elect half,
Starting point is 00:11:11 and you are under the jurisdiction of the other half, which are just appointed by one man, who happens to be a white man, who is not elected by the people of Hines County or Jackson, Mississippi. Wow. All Jackson, Mississippi. Wow. All right, Bruce. We appreciate it. We look forward to the judge's ruling. Thanks a lot. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:30 All right. We're going to talk about it with our panel when we come back for this break. You're watching Roller Mark on the Black Star Network. If you're watching on YouTube, hit that like button, y'all. That's right. Hit the like button. Of course, it impacts the algorithm, so we want to easily hit 1,000 likes, so please do that. Don't forget you can also download the Black Star Network app, Apple phone, Android phone, Apple TV, Android TV,
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Starting point is 00:12:36 We'll be right back. Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene. A white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence white people are losing their damn minds there's an angry pro-trump mob storm to the u.s capital we're about to see the rise of what i call white minority resistance we have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.
Starting point is 00:13:13 This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys, guys.
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Starting point is 00:14:14 The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Black Star Network and Black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't be Black-owned media and be scared. It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs home. You dig? Hi, I'm Gavin Houston. Hi, I'm Carl Painter.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your boy, Jacob Lattimore, and you're now watching Roland Martin right now. All right, let's get it. Robert Petillo, he is host of People, Passion, Politics, News Talk 1380, W-A-O-K in Atlanta. Rebecca Carruthers, she is the vice president, Fair Election Center based in Washington, D.C. Scott Bolden, he's an attorney in Washington, D.C. and belongs to a youth group,
Starting point is 00:15:22 so-called fraternity. All right, so let's get right to it here. So, Scott, I guess I'll start with the Kappa. Let's just be real clear. Republicans are doing this all around the country. They are using their power in control of the legislature to control what's happening locally. In Tennessee, they've been trying to take over the sports authority. They've been trying to take over the airport. In Florida and Alabama, Mississippi, they passed laws saying, oh, you can't remove Confederate monuments on the local level unless
Starting point is 00:15:49 you get permission from us, even if it's on city grounds. We see what's happening, how Texas is trying to pass laws specifically for Harris County and not the other 253 counties in Texas. That's what Republicans are doing right here in Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah, Roland, I can't get past what you're wearing on the show tonight. I got a white cape that I can share with you, a really white one, too, from a Kappa Step show I had 30 years ago. You will never see me with a red cape. No, it's a white cape. It's a white cape. But trust me, I'll rock that at the Delta Convention, where that's the only red and white that I respect.
Starting point is 00:16:32 In any event, let me tell you what I think is really going on here. I think you're right about the legislature's trying to do this on the Republican side, but Hines County feels like this is an experiment the Republican legislature and the Republican governor are going to try out. And his appointees are going to hash out or hand out very
Starting point is 00:16:55 harsh sentences because most white conservatives believe the more you lock them up and the longer you lock them up, the crime will go down. That's why they want those statistics. The reality is Washington, D.C. has some of the highest lockup rates in the country, and yet crime continues to flow. Locking people up forever is not the answer. But secondly, there are other majority black counties in Mississippi, I presume. And if this idea works in Hines County, look for the legislature to try to expand it on these appointed judges, on people they know are going to sentence bad actors the way they want them sentenced as a means of campaigning on we shut crime down by appointing judges versus letting black people
Starting point is 00:17:37 elect them. I think really underlying that's what's going on. And if it is, that's even more dangerous than what you're talking about. See, Rebecca, one of the reasons why these these white Republicans in Mississippi can do this is because of the shameful actions of the U.S. Supreme Court in invalidating Section four of the Voting Rights Act and the Shelby v. Holder decision that cleared the way for them to do the crap like this. And that's how they made. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player,
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Starting point is 00:20:58 You know, Roland, there's two things that are going on. I've spoke about it on the show before, is that what we're witnessing is American apartheid. And we really got to keep our eyes open about this and fight this, fight it like hell. The second thing is, this is also a money grab, because as you know, in Mississippi, there are for-profit private prisons in Mississippi, including private prisons owned by CoreCivic. And I'm going to go there where Thurgood Marshall Jr. sits on the board. So this we're seeing white supremacy. We're also seeing some black folks who are a part of this.
Starting point is 00:21:33 But this is also about money, because the more folks who get thrown into prison, the more money these for profit private prisons make because they make money per capita, per person there. The only way you get more people in prison is if you figure out more ways to jail and imprison people. And that's what we see that's happening in Mississippi. The thing that's also crazy here, Robert, is that they're taking this action but telling Jackson residents, oh, y'all got to pay for this. Absolutely. And I've talked for the last couple of years about this slow-moving fascist coup that we're seeing taking place nationwide. And this is just another brick in that wall. What Republicans realized in 2008 was they will no
Starting point is 00:22:14 longer be able to win national elections. They will no longer be able to get the popular vote. They will no longer be able to control the government through democratic means. And they launched this fascist coup that's very slow-moving. We saw during the Obama years over 1,000 seats switched from Democrat to Republican nationwide, despite population growth among minorities and a population decline among the traditional voter base of Republicans. This is because of voter suppression. This is because of gerrymandering. This is because we don't have a protected right to vote in this country after the Shelby v. Holder decision. And as a result of that, we see the constitutional majorities for conservatives in state houses around the country.
Starting point is 00:22:53 They use those constitutional majority to elect African-Americans from the state house in Tennessee to bar transgender women from serving in the statehouse in Minnesota, to try to remove a Democratic judge from the Supreme Court in a state like Wisconsin or a state like Mississippi to take power away from the African-Americans in those communities and create an occupation force that we haven't seen in America since the Posse Cabotadas meant to take away Democratic means. Unless we concentrate on the state and local elections, win back these state houses nationwide, we're going to continue to see all the action in America take place on the state level because of the gridlock we have in Washington, D.C., the recalcitrance to work across party lines, the inability to move big legislation. Everything over the next decade is
Starting point is 00:23:39 going to be happening in state houses. And right now, Republicans control those because they've invested in those for the last two decades. And the thing that I have consistently said to people, Scott, and over and over and over again, if you sit your ass at home, then you are clearing the way for the folks who hate you to do whatever it is they want. Or just voting in presidential elections as opposed to state elections. You and I and others on this panel have yelled and screamed it forever since we've been doing this show and even before about how important it is to vote up and down the ballot in both federal, national elections, as well as state elections, because our community is the first one to complain when a state's attorney does something we don't agree with or judge does something we don't agree with or governor or state legislature.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So that's really important. But remember this on this Hines County thing. This TRO they won was just temporary, a temporary restraining order. And there's going to be an evidentiary hearing whereby the plaintiffs are going to have to present evidence as to why this is unconstitutional. That case and the presentation of that evidence will be really, really important because that TRO is going to run out. They're holding the status quo right now, but this TRO does not affect the governor's ability to appoint these judges in Hines County.
Starting point is 00:25:01 The judge is going to deal with that when he makes his ruling after hearing evidence in the case from both sides. So I hope you continue to report on this, and I hope we continue to watch what's going on in Hines County, because you're going to see it again in Mississippi and perhaps other southern states. Yeah, we're going to absolutely keep reporting on it, because the bottom line is it ain't getting reported on on CNN. They're busy trying to give a town hall with Donald Trump. It's not being talked about extensively on MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:25:29 It's not being talked about other places. Which is why I keep trying to explain to people why you've got to have black-owned media. Because the reality is we've got to understand what is going on. We are connecting the dots. This is not solely just about Hines County, Jackson, Mississippi. This literally is where Republicans have a super majority and where they control the House, the Senate, and
Starting point is 00:25:52 the Governor's Mansion. So we're definitely going to continue to do that. All right, y'all got to go to break. We'll be back on Rolling Mark Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Again, you too, folks, hit the like button. Folks want to do the same thing on our OTT app. Speak of the OTT app, please download the Black Star Network app. Kenan, send me a text. Let me know how many downloads we have. Download the app, y'all.
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Starting point is 00:27:41 And so check and money orders, PO Box 57196, Washington, D.C., 20037-0196. Cash App, Dollar Sign, RM Unfiltered, PayPal, R. Martin Unfiltered, Venmo is RM Unfiltered, Zale, Roland at RolandSMartin.com, Roland at RolandMartinUnfiltered.com. And be sure to get a copy of my book, White how the brownie of america is making white folks lose their minds available bookstores nationwide download on audible i'll be right back that was a pivotal pivotal time i remember kevin kevin hart telling me that um he's like man what you doing, man? You gotta stay on stage. And I was like, yeah, but I'm like, I don't think I'm,
Starting point is 00:28:28 you know, I'm young, I'm thinking, but I'm good. And he was absolutely right. What show did you have at that? This was one-on-one. Got it. During that time. So you're doing one-on-one. Going great.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You're making money. You're like. I'm like, I don't need to leave. I don't need to leave from, you know, Wednesday, Thursday to Sunday. You know, I just didn't want to do that. You know like... I'm like, I don't need to leave. I don't need to leave from Wednesday, Thursday to Sunday. I just didn't want to do that. It was just like, I'm gonna stay here. Oh, I didn't want to finish work Friday, fly out, go do a gig Saturday, Sunday.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I was like, I don't have to do that. And I lost a little bit of that hunger that I had in New York. I would hit all the clubs, run around. Sometimes me and Chappelle or me and this one or that one, we'd go to the Comedy Cellar at one in the morning. I mean, that was our life. We loved it. You know, you do two shows in Manhattan, go to Brooklyn, leave Brooklyn,
Starting point is 00:29:16 go to Queens, go to Jersey. And I kind of just, I got complacent. I was like, I got this money, I'm good, I don't need to go chase that, because that money wasn't at the same level that I was making, but what I was missing was that training. Was that, was that. And it wasn't the money. It was the money, you know, it was that,
Starting point is 00:29:36 that's what I needed. Up next on The Frequency with me, Dee Barnes, our special guest, Alicia Garza, one of the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement. We're going to discuss her new book, The Purpose of Power, how we come together when we fall apart. We live in a world where we have to navigate, you know, when we say something, people look at us funny, but when a man says the same thing less skillfully
Starting point is 00:30:12 than we did, right? Right. Everybody blocks towards what they said, even though it was your idea. Right here on The Frequency on the Black Star Network. Hey, I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back.
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Starting point is 00:33:18 I'm Shantae Moore. Hi, my name is Latoya Luckett, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Să ne urmăm în următoarea mea rețetă. Now, George Santos, elected Republican from Long Island. Y'all, I don't even think his name is George. He's been lying about everything. Well, guess what? Homie got hit with 13 counts, turned himself in today, was arrested, had a news conference where he was defiant.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I'm not resigning. I'm not quitting, even though there are an increasing number of Republicans are saying, yo, it's time for this dude to go. Seven counts of wire fraud, three counts of money laundering, one count of theft of public funds, two counts of making materially false statements to the House of Representatives. Punk-ass Kevin McCarthy says, oh, no, well, no, he's going to stay in until, you know, until he's indicted, but until he's convicted. Really, dude? Really?
Starting point is 00:35:15 Talk about weak. They had a crazy, insane news conference today. Listen to this nutcase talking today outside the courthouse. The reality is, is it's a witch hunt because it makes no sense that in four months, four months, five months, I'm indicted. You have Joe Biden's entire family receiving deposits from nine, nine family members receiving money from foreign, from foreign destinations into their bank accounts. It's been years of exposing. A lot of you here have reported on them and yet no investigation is launched into them.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I'm going to fight. I will. And I'm just getting back to that. I'm going to fight my battle. I'm going to deliver. I'm going to fight my battle. I'm going to deliver. I'm going to fight the witch and I'm going to take care of clearing my name and I look forward to doing that. Yo, this dude lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, Robert. And he's like, after four months, duh. First of all, 700 grand, where'd that come from?
Starting point is 00:36:30 Well, look, Roland, this is one of the big things that Plato warned us about in the Republic when discussing the descent of democracy into tyranny, that when you have the rise of demagoguery over the conceptualization of veracity, at some point in time, anyone who's a skillful orator or actor can deceive the public. And this is one of the weaknesses of our democratic system. There's absolutely no check and balance on somebody who lies their way into office, as we've seen. If you have a weak House leader, someone like Kevin McCarthy, who's holding on by the slimmest of majorities, who knows if George Santos steps down from office and that seat will more than likely go to a Democrat, that it will weaken his hold on power
Starting point is 00:37:06 if he's willing to sell himself out to the lowest common denominator. And the fact that we have a political system now where you can hear the echoes of Trump in every corrupt politician in this country, they know the playbook from Trump. You lie, you say it's a witch hunt, you say people are after you, you discredit the investigation, You try to deflect it onto some other conspiracy theory. And George Santos, at this point in time, needs to be working on a plea agreement as opposed to trying to fight this out or run for reelection. Because in reality, more than likely, we will see a superseding indictment in this case where more evidence is found. Because, as you said, we still don't know where these $700,000 came from. We do not know much of who paid for his campaign. He has been voting on important issues in the House of Representatives for four months right now.
Starting point is 00:37:51 We do not know who has been directing those votes and who owns George Santos. And that's going to be a scary thing for everybody who is part of our democratic system. This thing here, I'm telling you right now, Rebecca, is hilarious. And why Republicans, why is McCarthy so scared to move? Because they have a slim majority, and they know if he resigns or is forced out in the special election, Democrats are winning
Starting point is 00:38:15 that seat. You know, I don't know which is worse here, Kevin McCarthy's specless leadership or New York Democrats losing to Santos. That to me is the biggest loser in all this. How do you lose to this guy? Like just finding out about his antics are just simply incredible. Like allegedly he stole money from a wounded veteran and his dog.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Like who does that? This is really like the scraping the bottom of the barrel. And then to Robert's point, we don't know who owns George Santos, who's paying for this lavish lifestyle. I mean, we now know who owns Clarence Thomas, but it is a big problem when we have folks who are in federal office who are entitled and owned by a bunch of people. We don't know, you know, where, we don't know who he's beholden to. But beyond that, you know, it's very clear from the indictments that this guy, he has to go.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And Kevin McCartney, you need to really just throw him out. And I'll tell you, Scott, other Republicans are like, yo, we're tired of this dude. We're tired of this dude. We're tired of this dude. I think it's going to build. And again, the lies have been compounded and building and building. Like I say, I don't even know the man's name actually is George.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I think he's mentally ill. You know, I've been doing criminal defense work for 32 years. I'm a prosecutor for four more years, so 36 years. I think he's mentally ill. And if this is a witch hunt, the warlock just got caught with 13-count federal indictment. And those seven wire fraud charges are charges of him wiring money to his personal account and elsewhere, probably political contributions, the money laundering, they're hiding sources. He's hiding and burying the sources of that money.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And then the stealing of public funds is an unemployment compensation charge that says he lied to get unemployment insurance payouts, which is really, really sick, given what he's reported to the House in regard to his disclosures. And so this is a very simple case to prove. And I'm not sure why he's staying out there and going to fight, because other than him being mentally ill,
Starting point is 00:40:44 this is a simple case to prove. He ought to enter into plea negotiations, get as little time as he can and keep it moving. The problem is he's been defiant to the system. And watch this. He would never have been charged. He would never have been charged if he had just not only admitted that he lied and he has admitted he's an admitted liar already, but if he just withdrew from the race or stepped down from Congress when it came out. He would never have been charged by the government. When you stay in and self-perpetuate
Starting point is 00:41:14 this fraudulent behavior, you're inviting the government, especially the DOJ or U.S. attorney, to indict you, to investigate you. You're almost begging them, please come get me, because I can't save myself from myself. And that's really what's going on here. Well, we'll see exactly what they're doing. I got to ask you all this here.
Starting point is 00:41:35 We've got Harlan Crowe who refuses to turn over gifts that he gave to Clarence Thomas to the United States Senate. We now know that he's been paying for the private tuition of the adopted child of Clarence Thomas. The man bought Clarence Thomas' mama's crib and she ain't got to pay rent. He's been taking lavish trips with his billionaire. One website actually reported in a case dealing with Chevron that Clarence Thomas reversed his own decision
Starting point is 00:42:07 in that case after getting all his money for Harlan Crowe. It is building and building and building, Scott, this case against Clarence Thomas. And John Roberts refused to come before the United States Senate, these people are going to have to do something. This is an absolute massive ethics violation, conflict of interest. We now know that the Supreme Court, damn that, they cannot be allowed to police themselves. They are not. If we're going to talk about three branches of government, there is not a single branch
Starting point is 00:42:44 of government other than them where they get to police themselves. These folks need to be under far more scrutiny and they need to be having a hell of a lot more, frankly, ethics rules in place than even the executive branch or the legislative branch. Yeah, the Supreme Court can't really be supreme if it's acting this badly. And the real danger with the Clarence Thomas situation, and it's not a Republican appointee or Democratic appointee, this ethics piece should cover all of them. And Roberts ought to come up with some ethical guidelines. And we ought to figure out whether the ABA or DOJ can police those guidelines. But here's the danger in Harlan Crow, though.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Because Harlan Crow may not have anything pending before the Supreme Court, but you don't know whose interests Harlan Crow is representing by disclosing, by giving these gifts and investing these monies and adding value to Clarence Thomas' life. And by the way, has Clarence Thomas reported these gifts or this income
Starting point is 00:43:46 or any of these transactions on his taxes? That's the real question to ask, because whether he had to report them or not, as part of some ethical review or document, which doesn't exist, has he reported on his taxes? And so Roberts has got to come up with something, because this is bringing disgrace on the Supreme Court. And if you if you if we can't believe only 50 percent of Americans in some recent polling believe that the Supreme Court makes sense or the Supreme Court is the supreme determiner of the law and they have confidence in it. Now you're losing something worse on the democracy because you've got politics in the legislature and executive branch. Yeah. But this isn't a political branch of the government. worse under democracy because you got politics in the legislature and executive branch, yeah, but this isn't a political branch of the government. This is supposed to be bigger,
Starting point is 00:44:36 better, brighter, and uphold the law because we follow the law, right? If we stop following the law, we have anarchy. And so this is a bigger problem for the Supreme Court. It's very credibility, which is the linchpin for our democracy. They got to get it fixed. Well, go to my iPad. Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. This is what he said. This is from a political story. He said, although Thomas neglected to report the gifts on his annual disclosure forms, Wyden argued they were substantial enough that Crowe would have been obligated to report them on his annual gift tax returns to the IRS. Rebecca, I mean, and so this billionaire. Oh, yeah. I'm not answering your questions. Why is right now you don't get to just blow off a Senate committee just because you rich. You know, what's really interesting in this is not only does Arlen have to deal with the gift taxes, but Clarence Thomas might haveok ethically on the Supreme Court, they would have
Starting point is 00:45:45 been cut Clarence Thomas and, you know, Clarence Thomas would have been on his way out. I suspect that this is a larger issue on the Supreme Court. There are questions around Brett Kavanaugh and some of the debts that were paid off for him and substantial debts, debts that his salary that he was making prior to joining the court simply didn't make sense that he could afford to personally pay off those debts. Those questions came up during the confirmation hearings. Those questions have lingered since he's been on the court. So I think Roberts is having a quandary here because it may be more than just Thomas who have these ethical issues.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Bottom line, Robert, is look, you are unelected. You are appointed for life. You should have a greater level of scrutiny. And for him to say, oh, I just asked around and he sounded like, hey, do you think I could take this trip? Oh, I can. I cool. So a friend of mine said I could. What the hell? It's not like he would say he consulted with his attorney. He literally said, yeah, I just asked a friend. The friend was like, yeah, you go ahead and do that class. Go ahead, bro. Oh, You know, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:47:06 For the first time in U.S. history, we have confirmation that Supreme Court justice has a sugar daddy. And I don't think that's something that any of us had to study in law school or really expected. This idea of having a Supreme Court justice get flewed out like an Instagram thought is just not something
Starting point is 00:47:21 within the realm of reality. When you think about the gravity of the cases that the Supreme Court is voting on, whether or not us having voting rights is dependent on if Clarence Thomas gets a trip to the Maldives, whether or not women have the right to reproduction dependent on if Clarence's mama's house gets paid off, whether or not we have prayer in school dependent on whether or not Clarence Thomas' son gets his tuition paid. It's an insane system that we exist in. The reason I brought up Plato in the last segment is this goes at the very foundations of our democratic system. When you have a congressperson who apparently is living a fake life, but yet is still in Congress, we have a president who's a former president who's convicted of sexual abuse and defamation. And before they can even get out of the news cycle, we find out that we have a Supreme Court justice that is a gold digger.
Starting point is 00:48:10 You know, all those things pile up to really question the democratic system that we exist within. And that's when you start seeing societies break from the weight of the corruption of the system around them. And I think we may be near that breaking point. Damn, Robert. IG thought a gold digger. I mean, did you use all of the descriptions up? Hell, I thought you was about to say
Starting point is 00:48:33 Harlan Crowe gave him a gold card to Magic City. I mean, my goodness. Look, there's nobody at Magic City getting flewed up to the Maldives, their house paid for and tuition for their grandbaby. Maybe at Claremont Lounge, but I'm just saying that's not, he's getting paid more
Starting point is 00:48:50 than any IG thought that we know, and he gets to decide if we get to vote or not. Damn, Rob is sitting down by a class, can I get a table dance, can I get a table dance? Alright, let's go to a break, when we come back, President Joe Biden just straight embarrasses a White House reporter.
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Starting point is 00:54:03 It's the love king of R&B, Raheem Devon, and you're watching Roland Martin, Unfiltered. All right, so yesterday, the joke I hope y'all saw on our YouTube channel what I just torched this dumbass black conservative named David Lowry who came on here. He didn't have no facts. He didn't read nothing. Hell, he didn't even look at no pictures to understand what the hell he was talking about. And I just cannot stand when people say stuff and they don't even bother to read something before they open a damn mouth.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That literally happened yesterday in a news conference where President Joe Biden took a question from a reporter who didn't know what the hell she was talking about. And even Biden was like damn you ain't the brightest bulb in the dark room roll it. Speaker McCarthy said that he asked you numerous times if there was anywhere in the federal budget for cuts but he did not get an answer so is there a specific answer got a specific answer again today. But first, you didn't listen either, so why should I even answer the question? We cut the deficit. Damn! Like, damn!
Starting point is 00:55:35 You ain't listening either. I don't know why I should even talk to your ass. I'm a big bias translator. Why I'm even talking to your simple Simon ass? Play. By $160 billion. Billion. B-I-L-L-I-O-N. Damn. Now you know somebody just pimps
Starting point is 00:55:55 when they spill that shit out. He literally spilled out billion to her ass. Play. Dollars on the Medicare deal. We cut the deficit by raising the tax on people Play. Did he tell you? Did you hear? No, no, no, I'm not being facetious. Did he tell you what he's proposing? He was talking about the bill. Yeah, but what does it propose?
Starting point is 00:56:31 Do you know? I'm not being a wise guy. You all are very, very informed people. You know what that bill cuts? By basically like, what your ass got. What you got? Then the man literally just embarrassed her. Ooh, y'all really are really informed people.
Starting point is 00:56:52 What he was saying is, your ass don't know shit. Press play. There is a long list of things that it cuts. No, no, it doesn't say. Does it say what it's going to cut? Damn. Her ass said there's a long list of things it says
Starting point is 00:57:12 it cuts. My life, what it at? Say generically it's going to cut. You get the problem. Rebecca. But you get the problem. Rebecca, I don't know who that reporter was, but her boss should say, your ass in the timeout box.
Starting point is 00:57:39 You know, I don't understand why reporters ask questions that they don't already know the answer to. Like, to me, already know the answer to. Like to me, that's the first thing. The second thing is don't carry any other person's water just because you heard someone summarize something. And you don't don't take that as fact. Do your own research. And Biden was right here. You know what she was asserting, what she was carrying forth, what she heard from the speaker, was inaccurate.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And he embarrassed her. So, you know, I hope her editor has a really good, long conversation with her about how she really needs to do research, you know, before asking the president of the United States a question that simply is not so, that's based upon a faulty premise. See, Robert, this is the bullshit that happens all the time in this city. They'll be at the White House going, some people are saying, and I love it when they go, who? Can you name them?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Who some people? What they say. You should not, see, that's why, there's a reason why, now, Senator Robert, you know, I guess because you love your guns, these black Republicans love to come on when you guest host, because they're not going to bring their asses on here when I'm here. Because the bottom line is, they lying. And what they're not used to, they're not used to, first of all, journalists who actually read stuff,
Starting point is 00:59:01 who can also recite it to him in real time. Well, this was Biden's way of saying, don't ask me no damn question about what's in the bill when there's nothing in the bill. And so when she's like, it's a host of cuts, he's like, what? She couldn't even answer it. So even she didn't do her job by saying, McCarthy, show us a copy of your bill
Starting point is 00:59:23 so we can actually know what you're proposing, Cuddy. Well, you know, this is part of the problem with the way Republicans have tried to paint Joe Biden over the course of the last couple years. By having this idea of sleepy Joe, this, you know, dementia Joe, some guy who's barely standing up, can barely get by. They forget that
Starting point is 00:59:39 Joe Biden is still sharp and still much smarter than many of them. And because of that, he can go toe-to-toe with many of these reporters. I think this is one of the things the White House comms team needs to get together on. Because, quite frankly, we're talking about this right here. How many other networks are talking about this from today? How many surrogates from the Biden administration or from the Biden campaign team are out putting out talking points on this, sharing the clip online. In the last week or so, we have Joe Biden proposing a very reasonable budget, trying to
Starting point is 01:00:13 maintain our debt rating across the world. At the same time, you got Donald Trump getting convicted. You got George Santos getting arrested. And we find out about Clarence Thomas' sugar daddy. The White House needs to have a better way of carrying their message forward to the American people. You shouldn't have to go look for the message. There should be somebody from the White House right here on this show right now talking about this moment. And unless they can do that, they're going to continue to see Biden polling in the mid-30s. It's not because of the actions of the administration. It's because of the inability of them to carry that message to the American people and enter into the cultural zeitgeist
Starting point is 01:00:46 in order to actually have some resonance around it to boost the administration's poll numbers. Scott, he don't even say, he's not even saying, I'm not trying to be a wise guy. No, he should let that thing sting. In fact, you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:02 If there's somebody who Biden should be watching every night, Scott, I think President Biden, before he does a news conference, should watch this. Let's see if I can get it. Yes, what is it? Mr. President.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah, what? What? Mr. President. Yeah, what? Mr. Bigby, Mississippi Herald. Sit down. Mrs. Fenton Carlton-Macker, Christian Women's News. Mr. President, since you've become president, you've been seen and photographed on the arms of white women. Mr. President, since you've become president, you've been seen and photographed on the arms of white women. Quite frankly, sir, you've been courting an awful lot of white women. Will this continue? As long as I can keep it up.
Starting point is 01:02:13 At some point, Scott, he's got to say, I'm sick of this shit. I ain't dealing with this nonsense. And you got to just go ahead and do that when you keep getting ass stupid stuff. The greatest. Let's not forget that Richard Pryor was the greatest. He
Starting point is 01:02:29 just proved it there. You know, every week, I'm on some network defending Joe Biden, and the Republican narrative, political narrative, is that he's old, he's slow, he's not sharp, he's got all these gaffes. And if you heard his presentation
Starting point is 01:02:46 today in, I want to say, Hawaii or wherever he was, in Ohio somewhere, I can't remember. He gave a speech at a press conference. This clip that you just ran where he's breaking down the budget, this is an extremely intelligent man with a lot of wisdom, a lot of experience. And sure, he's 80 years old or maybe 82 when he wins again. But I got to tell you, I'll take Joe Biden's wisdom and experience and his knowledge and experience of the budget, as well as international affairs and all that he's done for this country over whatever the Republican Party has to offer. And that's just simply not much compared to him. He's a human, decently, he's a humanly decent man.
Starting point is 01:03:32 He's super smart, still sharp. And he just showed you in that clip you showed, as well as his speech in press conference today, that he's sharp as ever. I mean, I have gaps when I present, and I'm 60 years old, so I don't think it makes a difference whether you're 80 or 60, but he's an incredibly competent president, gets a lot done, and regardless of what the Republicans throw at him, his excellence manifests itself every day. And so that's why he's going to get reelected again, I think.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Oh, well, that's nice,'s going to get reelected again, I think. Oh, well, that's nice, but I don't have no gaffes. So, I mean, that's I mean, maybe you can think Put time on your own show. What are you talking about? No, I'm just saying. Time. I'm just saying, you might want to prepare more. You might want to put... You missed your cue about five
Starting point is 01:04:24 shows ago. I never said anything about it. You may want to put... You missed your cue about five shows ago. I never said anything about it. You may want to put a little extra work in. And remember, I set the cues. See? See? Don't let me have to remind you who your daddy is. All right. Well, maybe it was a couple years ago.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Maybe it was a couple years ago. Remember, Alpha's your daddy. Bow down. That's right. That's right. So don't, don't, don't, don't get, don't do it. Get started. All right.
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Starting point is 01:06:52 We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from
Starting point is 01:07:11 Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Caramouch. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on
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Starting point is 01:09:30 Binge episodes one, two, and three on May 21st and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Like it was a who's who of who's who right here on The Frequency in the Black Star Network. Next on The Black Table with me, Greg Carr. We look at one of the most influential and prominent Black Americans of the 20th century. His work literally changed the world. Among other things, he played a major role in creating the United Nations. He was the first
Starting point is 01:10:06 African-American and first person of color to win the Nobel Peace Prize. And yet today, he is hardly a household name. We're talking, of course, about Ralph J. Bunch. A new book refers to him as the absolutely indispensable man. His lifelong interest and passion in racial justice, specifically in the form of colonialism. And he saw his work as an activist, an advocate for the Black community here in the United States as just the other side of the coin of his work
Starting point is 01:10:41 trying to roll back European empire in Africa. Author Cal Rastiala will join us to share his incredible story. That's on the next Black Table here on the Black Star Network. This is Judge Matthews. What's going on, everybody? It's your boy, Mack Wilde. Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your boy, Jacob Lattimore, and you're now watching Roland Martin right now. Eee!
Starting point is 01:11:24 Welcome back to Roland Martin on the filter of the Black Star Network. And you know what, Scott, since you got a little extra at the last segment there, Orlando Jones hit me up and said, remind Scott of what I said in the movie Biker Boys. I'm better than standing your ass around. Get down on your knees and standing your ass around. Get down on your knees and bow that ass down. That's for all you cappers, Scott.
Starting point is 01:11:55 All right. You always got to bow down when you're in the presence of an alpha, Scott. See, I told you. Leave me alone. What you got to say? I'm going to sue you for that one. I'm just telling you. I'm going to sue you. I'm going to send you to the lawsuit before I sue you. Okay?
Starting point is 01:12:12 That's right. And I'm going to sue the alphas and you. And the Roland Martin Unfiltered show. That's right. I'm coming for you, Roland. I'm coming for you. You done? You done? Yeah, I'm done. I got a whole bunch of alphas to handle.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Take that back. I got a whole bunch of alphas handling. That wasn't nice. I got a bunch of alphas handling. Okay, what'd you say? Take it back? Take it back. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Don't run it back. Oh, I thought you said run it back. Boom! Take it back. No! You better be standing your ass around. Sit down on your knees. And bow your ass around. Get down on your knees and bow that ass down.
Starting point is 01:12:49 All right. Since you want to run it back, that's how we do it. Take it back. That's how we do it. All right, enough of that. All right, let's get to it, y'all. A couple of weeks ago,
Starting point is 01:13:02 the African American Marriage Association, they were in town for their national conference. My alpha brother, the mayor of Arkansas, Scott, is the outgoing president and alpha, just letting you know. In fact, there were so many alpha mayors at the conference, there could have been a fraternity meeting. But the new mayor, the new head of the organization, she's out of Mount Vernon, New York, Mayor Sean Patterson Howard. She's going to be leading the 10-year organization, 127 members. Sean, glad to have you on the show,
Starting point is 01:13:36 Mayor. How you doing? Good to be here. And I am a proud member of Delta Sigma Theta Incorporated. It's all good. You know, Alpha's all y'all daddy. Don't worry about it. It's good. It's good. All right. So let's get right to it. So talk about what is your vision?
Starting point is 01:13:53 What is your plan for, because we see right now the four largest cities in the country, in the cities in the country, African-American mayor, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, and Houston. We have, of course, mayors, a black mayor in Little Rock and Birmingham and just different places. So we are seeing how black political power is increasing. And so what is your goal with these mayors? I mean, my goal with these mayors is to make sure that we're addressing issues that are critical to black communities, urban communities. And, you know, at the top of the list, dealing with climate change, dealing with public safety
Starting point is 01:14:30 and community revitalization, looking at health, looking at generational wealth. These are the things that are at the top of my priority list. And the way that we would accomplish these things is definitely partnering with national organizations. I'm excited that we are going to be doing some work with the Congressional Black Caucus. We are partnering with the Gates Foundation, and we're doing work around wealth building and developing generational wealth. We're working with the National Association of Real Estate Brokers, you know, in that same area and making sure that properties in our communities, that we are
Starting point is 01:15:11 retaining them as families and communities and ensuring the future strength economically of our communities. Looking at organizations like the NAACP and the Urban League, you know, how are we really partnering? How are we partnering on a national level? How are we aligning our vision and our focus so that we stop working in silos? Because oftentimes we're working in silos. We want to focus also, you know, on voting rights. That's very, very important because if we lose the power of the vote and they continue to do all of this redistricting, it just dilutes our power and, of course, public safety, because we want to make sure that the blood stops running down the streets
Starting point is 01:15:51 in the neighborhood in our communities because of unnecessary gun violence, oftentimes powered by this very illegal gun market. So those are some of the things that we're definitely looking at. And, you know, when you have national organizations that you can work with, then it really just becomes a force multiplier. We have a 2024 presidential election coming up. And so we have to be very serious, very focused and very intentional about how we're moving. One of the things that mayors always talk about, and I'm always trying to explain to people on this show how power works, is that when the federal government is sending money, typically they're sending that money in block grants to the states.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Well, here's part of the problem. In many of these states where we have black mayors, you've got Republican governors, and they're not being sending that money to the states. And so one of the things that black mayors, the AAMA, has been demanding or pushing the Biden-Harris administration is to bypass the states and send the money directly to the cities if they want to impact the people. Absolutely. That's what we did with American Rescue Plan money. We sat with members of the Biden-Harris administration, and just to the very point that you made, if you send it to the governors, it's not going to come here. One of the points, Houston and Dallas were hit hard by, you know, climate incidents a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:17:17 And Texas received a whole bunch of money. None of that money made it to Houston and Dallas, right? And those are largely black cities led by black mayors. And so we know that if the monies continue just to go to the governors, you're not going to see that money in the communities. And mayors are the ones that have to answer for the challenges in the community. They're the ones who can get the money directly to the needs that will impact their residents the most. And so getting money stuck at the state level is not good. Look, I'm in New York and we have a Democratic governor, but I feel as
Starting point is 01:17:53 a mayor that I still know how my community needs to spend their money. And I definitely still advocate even in communities and states where there are Democratic governors that the money still goes to mayors. Mayors are boots on the ground. We are the first line of government. We are the ones who have to answer to the people the most, and they have access to us. And so we should definitely have the leading say in how monies that are allocated by the federal government for our communities are spent. All right. Questions from our panel. Rebecca, you're first. What's your question for Mayor Sean? Thank you, Mayor. There is a growing narrative that crime is on an uptick in the country and that is centered around urban areas and largely in cities. What types of support do our mayors need in order to make sure that we're
Starting point is 01:18:47 stemming the increase in crime? And that's me also assuming that, yes, there is an increase in crime that's happening in our cities all across the country. And like you said, that's assuming that there is an increase in crime. Actually, in a lot of our urban communities, we're seeing a decrease in violent crime. Unfortunately, what we see is over-reporting of crime. And even the Post, which is not necessarily a friend, the New York Post is not necessarily a friend of urban communities. They spoke about, and the Times spoke about, how there is a lot of overreporting of crime. And so there's about a 400 percent increase in reporting of crime. We saw four homicides in my community last year. They were all solved.
Starting point is 01:19:34 We usually see anywhere between six and 10. So that is a decrease. This year, we've seen three so far. The big challenge is that they're younger people. And so we have to definitely deal with the narrative that's being pushed. But big challenge is that they're younger people. And so we have to definitely deal with the narrative that's being pushed. But then there is real crime that is happening. And so partnering with the African-American mayors, the National League of Cities, working with organizations like Cities United, that really focuses on understanding that violence is a public health issue. And so needing people like
Starting point is 01:20:07 violence interrupters. So we have violence interrupters in our community. We call them snug. And these are people who were justice involved, who are now out on the streets as outreach workers, connecting with those who are the most violent or potentially the most violent in our community, to mentor them, to provide them with case management. It's a real holistic view and holistic approach to reducing crime in our communities, education, jobs, job training, living wage jobs, working with them around mental health issues. A lot of these young people on the streets who are involved in criminal activities also
Starting point is 01:20:44 experience a lot of these young people on the streets who are involved in criminal activities also experience a lot of trauma. And so we know that policing by itself has never deterred crime and stopped crime in communities. And so we definitely have to take a comprehensive approach to violence in our communities. Very, very similar to what we did with COVID. When COVID came, everyone stopped what they were doing. They really focused, and you had everyone from DPW and police to hospitals to schools to neighborhood associations really focusing on how to keep our communities healthy. Well, that's the same thing that we have to do. Neighborhood watches have to come back again, but we have to train them and educate them.
Starting point is 01:21:22 We're bringing back in Mount Vernon the peacekeepers. We've spoken to the church and some of the guys in the neighborhood and say, look, you know, this has to be done for us by us. Remember FUBU back in the day? And so if we don't want over-pleasing of our communities, then we have to also get out here and walk the streets and not be afraid to engage the young men and women
Starting point is 01:21:42 in our communities. We have to be serious about job training and education so that they can have living wage jobs, because you can help people walk away from a life of crime, but if they don't have any way to take care of themselves and their families, they're going to find themselves back in street-level activity. So it has to be much more. And as Eric Adams always says, Mayor Adams, he says we have to address the issues upstream. We have to deal with the drivers of violence. And there are very many drivers of violence, and we have to address them one by one.
Starting point is 01:22:12 And that's some of the partnerships that we're really focusing on and bringing those resources to our mayors. Robert? Kind of piggybacking on Rebecca's point, and thank you so much for joining us today. We've seen the continuous attacks on black mayors around the country from police unions, from fraternal orders of police, particularly against black female mayors. We saw Mayor Lightfoot and the issues she had in Chicago, Mayor Bottoms in Atlanta, the issues he had after the Rashard Brooks killing. What can be done to better bridge the gap between law enforcement and the efforts at criminal justice reform that many black mayors try to institute nationwide? Because it seems that we end up in this running circle of police officers not wanting to fight crime. But whenever you try to institute police reform, as a result, crime ticks up,
Starting point is 01:23:05 the community gets angry, you replace the politicians who are trying to push law enforcement reform, and we end up in the same spot again and again. What can we do to bridge that gap? Look, I mean, it's hard conversations. Here in the city of Mount Vernon, I'm up right now for a reelection in June, definitely having a lot of challenges with my PBA. New York was definitely a criminal justice reform state. No more stop and frisk, changing in bail reform and discovery laws. And so we saw some of the same things. We saw kind of the blue flu, not necessarily people not coming to work, but not writing tickets and
Starting point is 01:23:45 doing things of that nature. Also, in a lot of urban areas like my community, we're behind and we pay our police officers less. And so when you're trying to negotiate contracts and things of that nature, so anytime there's a shooting or there's a homicide, it's like, well, because we don't have enough police, the laws are too weak, the mayors don't care about public safety. We absolutely care about public safety, but we want to just make sure that the rules and the way that we're dispensing justice are equitable. And you made the right point. When communities see an uptick in violence, they're almost ready to give up all of the rights that we've gained around criminal justice reform to make sure that the neighborhoods are safe.
Starting point is 01:24:27 And that's part of the game. That's that's part of the constant drumbeat of the communities are not safe. And so when you're also looking at 24 hour news cycles and people are also looking at social media, if a shooting happens in Atlanta, then people in Mount Vernon are feeling it. They're like, there's just a constant feeling of unsafety. It doesn't have to even be violence happening in your community. They just look at it happening in any urban area, and they're feeling it. I have parents who are saying, we need SROs in the school. While we support SROs in the school, right now we don't have it in our budget. We don't have it available. But when there was the shooting in Uvalde, the news called us and they were on the news every morning saying, well, we need to know how many school safety officers you're going to put in the
Starting point is 01:25:15 schools because parents are afraid that the school is going to be shot up tomorrow. So there is a lot of pressure to respond and to give much more funding to public safety, especially in urban communities that don't necessarily have the money. And so Mayor Tashara Jones and I always say that our communities, our cities are what we call the cop shop. Other communities around us who can afford to pay more come to our community to get the well-trained officers. They're transferring out of our communities at a higher rate. And then that also becomes part of the narrative that you're allowing your cops to transfer, that you don't care about policing, you don't care about public safety. And it is definitely an attack on black women mayors. Scott, I got Scott, the mayor got 60 seconds left in the segment.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Scott, go. Yeah, and Madam Mayor, I agree with everything you said about the crime mission and solving it. But most of our urban centers, big or small, still have a crime problem. Absolutely. It's very expensive. It's very expensive to solve this problem because I agree with everything you said. How do you get more money in your budgets from the feds, from the state to solve that problem? Because to me, that answers a lot of questions if you get the funding for it.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Well, we are definitely lobbying our state officials. And I'm excited and I'm encouraged by the Safer Communities Act that is putting forward a lot more money on the federal government. And so we're working to make sure that our urban communities are receiving the technical assistance. And when we're talking about Justice 40, our communities are under-resourced and underserved, and we need our fair share of that money. All right, then. Good luck, Madam Mayor. Mayor, Sean, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much for joining us. And we'll see you soon. Take care. Thank you so very much for joining us. And we'll see you soon. Take care.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Thank you so much. All right. Thanks a bunch. Folks, coming up next, we're going to talk with Dee Barnes about her new show on the Black Star Network. But before we go. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast.
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Starting point is 01:27:42 We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things.
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Starting point is 01:30:24 Oh, you didn't hear, oh, you didn't hear, Scott? You should run that again. I didn't hear. Oh, yeah. Oh, you didn't hear his back? You should run that again. I didn't hear it. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, I'm going to run that again. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:30:33 You keep campaigning for this ass whooping, you're going to get elected. That also was Orlando Jones from Double Take. I'll be right back. I like that one. I like that one. I like that. On a next A Balanced Life with me, Dr. Jackie, what does it mean to actually have balance
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Starting point is 01:31:21 on A Balanced Life on Blackstar Network. Up next on The Frequency with me, Dee Barnes. We're going to talk to Leslie Segar, aka Big Les, and talk about her incredible career as a dancer, choreographer, and DJ of Rap City. Magic Johnson was there, so half the NBA was there. He won the supermodel for all the supermodels were there every day. Like it was a who's who the supermodels. All the supermodels were there every day, after. Like, it was a who's who of who's who right here on The Frequency and the Black Star Network. Hey, I'm Arnaz J.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Black TV does matter, dang it. Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your boy, Jacob Lattimore, and you're now watching Roland Martin right now. Stay woke. Pay attention, and you might learn something. For Scott Bolden right there. All right, pay attention, you might learn something. For Scott Bolden right there. All right, pay attention, you might learn something, Scott. All right, folks, my next guest,
Starting point is 01:32:33 pioneer in hip-hop, host of the show years ago that was all the rage in hip-hop, and then all of a sudden she was a journalist, and then many people may know her story. When it came to her and Dr. Dre and what she was. She was viciously beaten. She dropped off the radar for quite some time. But now she's back and has a show called The Frequency on the Black Star Network. What's up, Dee Barnes? How you doing? What's up, Roland? You're looking sharp right there with the
Starting point is 01:33:05 white fedora. I figured we'd do something. This is one of the brings George Lopez gave me at his golf tournament a couple years ago. So, you know, I said I figure I'd make Scott Bolden look jealous because he mad. Why you want Scott
Starting point is 01:33:22 so bad today? Because he a little capper. And, you know, he jealous. Why you want Scott so bad today? Because he a little capper, and you know, he jealous. He jealous. Oh, okay, all right. All right. He jealous. Yo, turn Scott back up. Come on. He over there running his mouth saying something. I don't know what the hell he's saying. Defend yourself, Scott.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Come on, turn the audio up. Oh, no, you did that, Roland. Hey, Scott, your silly ass on mute. See, you a capper. Hey, no, I said, you think you're so pretty. You can't be that pretty because you're not a capper. So just keep it moving. Keep the show moving. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:54 See? This is gentleman beef. This is gentleman beef right here. No, it's only one. No, it's only one gentleman. There's a gentleman and there's a child, okay? And trust me, I tower over Scott. We'll leave that alone. All right, D.
Starting point is 01:34:09 So let's get right into it. So for folks who don't know your history, what you used to do in media, just share it with the folks who are watching. You know, I used to be an MC
Starting point is 01:34:25 with a group called Body and Soul. On the label Delicious Vinyl, you might've heard it. Tone Logue, Young MC, Def Jeff, the brand new Heavies, Far Side, a lot of J Dilla product, you know, productions. And then from there, I went on to host a show called Pump It Up, which was similar to Yo! MTV Raps, Rap City.
Starting point is 01:34:47 And we were on the Fox network at the time. This is the early, you know, late 80s, early 90s. And from there, you know, I interviewed so many of your favorite hip hop artists all through the, you know, the 90s. The show was on for about three years. And then you, then you were also what, writing for publications and you will be used to a steel in the game. But then all of a sudden you disappeared from media. Definitely disappeared, definitely disappeared from media.
Starting point is 01:35:22 I mean, people know the story of the incident that I had with Dr. J, which had a very looming effect over myself, my career. And it's been a long struggle to get back here. And you came to me with this opportunity, which at first I hesitated because when we were talking to Angelina... Oh, no, no, Dee. You didn't hesitate. You said no. I was like, what is wrong with her? Well, you know, I had a lot of people in this industry come at me and offer me things,
Starting point is 01:35:58 and, you know, things didn't work out. Like I was saying, it was just... I felt a little, you know, like maybe I was a little jaded with the industry, so to speak, and I had this focus that I was, you know, I was focused on this one thing and you helped me realize that, you know, I need to reel it in and reset, reboot. And so you came with me with this opportunity to do this show and I'm like, okay, let's do it. So let me tell y'all what I said to D I said, listen, a lot of people call me and I said, uh, I mean, one of my gifts is
Starting point is 01:36:31 getting people unstuck. Sometimes a lot of people sort of just sort of stuck where they are. They don't actually see the whole chessboard. Uh, they don't see things, uh, the same way. And so, uh, and so initially D said, no, I'm just going to focus on trying to get my book and my documentary. And I was like, Dee, listen, those are long-term projects that take two, three, four, five years or even longer. And so I was trying to figure out what to say to her that would make it click. And so God gave me this one. I said, D, let me explain to you. You like somebody who's trying to swim
Starting point is 01:37:09 from this island to that island way over there and my ass in a boat. And I roll up on you and you like, nah, nah, I'm good, I'ma swim it. And I'm like, you might wanna get your ass in this boat to get over to that island a little faster. And that's what caused her to go, dang, you right. That's right. That's because I was drowning. I was drowning. And when you were like, you're going to get in this boat? And I was
Starting point is 01:37:40 like, you know what? You might be right. Let's get in this boat. No, but no, you did come to me with some good knowledge about getting people unblocked, not stuck, you said. You said unblocked. And I felt that that was happening to me for years in industry that I was being blocked. Whether it was me or whether it was from the industry. But speaking to you and speaking, Dr. Jackie Martin, shout out to her, she helped me get balance.
Starting point is 01:38:11 And if you guys, you know, are fans of the Black Star Network, I know you watch her show, A Balanced Life. And speaking to both of you helped me get balance and refocus. And then I was able to start, you know, thinking about what I wanted to do with this platform you were offering me. And it definitely was something about uplifting women. That was my focus. I wanted to uplift women. I want to pass the mic to women that haven't been heard. I want to speak to, you know, my elders. I want to speak to my peers. I want to speak to
Starting point is 01:38:41 the younger generation, you know, issues of concern that deal with women. That's like my main my main goal. Like my first guest right there was Alicia Garza. You know, I mean, I want to focus on books because you see books are being banned left and right. So I really want to work with a lot of women, you know, who work on, you know, write books. And then you see, ah, there goes Big Les. Also, you know, being that it's the 50th anniversary of hip hop, I got to throw some hip hop in there. And I really want to talk to a lot of the legends in the game and a lot of the ones that have not been heard. You know what I mean? The ones you don't think of, a lot of the matriarchs, a lot of the pioneers, the OGs. So that's my focus. That's what I'm working on. You know what I mean? The show is basically an intersection of empowerment and acknowledgement.
Starting point is 01:39:29 You know what I'm saying? In a safe space. And the thing that and again, for the people who are watching, we understand I've never personally met D. I follow her on social media. I saw her story. And I say, you know what I say? I think this on social media. I saw her story. And I say, you know what? I say, I think this could be interesting because, I mean, you've had to deal with, look, being homeless. You had to deal with, again, as you said, being blackballed, jobless. A lot of people, again, who promised things and didn't follow through. Right. And one of the things, and I got a shout out, before we go to the break, we'll come back, I got a shout out Fab Five Freddy and Sway.
Starting point is 01:40:13 That's right. Because what happened was, so what happened was, when I had this idea, so I called Fab Five Freddy. Yeah. I called Sway. I called Dream Hampton. I called Sway. I called Dream Hampton. I called Kevin Powell. Because I was like,
Starting point is 01:40:31 and just for everybody to understand, so I went through Dee's Twitter and Instagram feed to look for people who follow her who I knew. And so I was like. Well, listen, you picked people that, you picked key people because those people have always supported me and have always counseled me
Starting point is 01:40:50 and helped me in ways that I can't even describe. So you picked some key people. You picked some good people that were able to talk to me. Right, so I picked them, and so we talked to them, and they were like, yo, bro, this is a great idea. I mean, this could be awesome. Fab Five Freddie loved it. And then when Dee said, nah, I'm good, I'm gonna keep doing it. See, I was like, yo, Rollin, this is a great idea. Man, this could be awesome. Fab Five, Freddie loved it. And then when Dee said, nah, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:41:06 I'm going to keep doing this. See, I was like, er? So then I hit all four of them back. Fab Five was like, what? And so then a little bit later, he hit me up. And he was like, yo, he said, I hollered at Dee. I think she's straight now. And so before we go to break, just share for folks what happened when he was like, D.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Now, you know, Fab Five is a great brother. You know what I'm saying? He's one of the brothers that I can, in the industry, is my hip hop brother for life that I can call up and talk to. And he'll give me the real, the straight up. You know what I mean? And it's just like you said, we hadn't met. So I didn't really didn't know you. So as you were vetting me, I was vetting you too, brother. I was like, well, how is Roland? How is he? You know? So it's weird because we haven't met, but I feel like I know you, you know what I mean? And you got a good review. You got a good review. You got a great review. I wasn't worried about that. I wasn't worried about that. I knew
Starting point is 01:42:06 it. I bet you wasn't. That's why you were in the white right now. I knew what we were going to do. I knew what we could do. That's one of the reasons why, again, creating the platform is important because to be able to do different things in different voices. Hold on one second. I got to go to break, pay some bills. We'll come back. My panel
Starting point is 01:42:22 got some questions for you. We're talking with Dee Barnes. She's host of the new show on the Black Star Network, the new weekly show. But it's a weekly now. But we're going to move to two to three times a week. But hopefully in about three months, we're going to be actually daily. So the plan is for her to have a daily show here on the Black Star Network. It will be the third daily show that we have. And so we'll chat with her next right here on Rolling Martin Unfiltered back in a moment. On the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's Wealth Coach, nurses are the backbone of the healthcare industry. And yet only 7% of them are black. What's the
Starting point is 01:43:05 reason for that low number. Well a lack of opportunities and growth in their profession joining us on the next get wealthy is meeting part of the league she's going to be sharing exactly what nurses need to do and what approach they need to take to take ownership of their success. So the blackers collaborative really spawn from a place and desire to create opportunities to uplift each other those of us in the profession to also look and
Starting point is 01:43:34 reach back and create and create pipelines and opportunities for other nurses like us that's right here. It well only on Blackstar Network. Blackstar Network is here. Oh, no punches! I'm real revolutionary right now. Thank you for being the voice of Black America. All momentum we have now, we have to keep this going.
Starting point is 01:44:01 The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Blackstar Network and Black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't be Black-owned media and be scared. It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs home. You dig? Everybody, this is your man Fred Hammond. Hi, my name is Bresha Webb
Starting point is 01:44:21 and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. And, well, I like a nice filter usually, but we can be unfiltered. Now, Kira Ellis has been missing from Lyman, South Carolina, since February 17th. The 17-year-old is 5 feet 4 inches tall, weighs 200 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes. Her hair was in black and orange braids when she was last seen. Now, Kira wears glasses and a nose ring. Anyone with information about Nakira Ellis should call the Lyman, South Carolina Police Department at 864-596-2222, 864-596-2222. All right, folks, back to our conversation with Dee Barnes,
Starting point is 01:45:14 host of the show The Frequency, right here on the Black Star Network, debuted last Thursday. New episodes will drop every single Thursday, so glad to have her here. Dee, I talk about one of the things that I said to you, and this really was important, because it was sort of like how, again,
Starting point is 01:45:37 as somebody from the outside who's following you, it was as if your story stopped with the beating with Dr. Dre. And I said, from my perspective, that cannot be the end of your story. I said, the opportunity here is to be able to have a platform, to be able to talk about issues, talk about things that you've gone through, things that you've endured and all you were involved in, everything just literally stopped after that. I mean, one of the things you did point out about, you know, speaking from my perspective and trying to change my, you were saying that it was, I had a narrow view and I only wanted to cover hip hop. But that wasn't true. But you were absolutely right in the fact that I could broaden my view and broaden the conversation about the things that I went through. And I think that one of the things that people love, you know. Tuning into is that I want to like I want to invoke empathy so you can relate to what was happening. So having the experience of being homeless, you know, I mean, I hope to talk to some advocates about that.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Having the experience of, you know, being jobless and the struggles in the industry, a lot of women in this industry and the entertainment industry is what I mean. And what they go through, you know what I mean? Like right now, I have a few friends that are writers and they're dealing with the writer strike right now. So I want to talk to them and get their perspective on, you know, how they're dealing with that. So I think, you know, that the advice that you've given me and, you know, thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to have this platform
Starting point is 01:47:41 so that I can reach, you know, more people and talk about some interesting things. And we're going to have some platform so that I can reach, you know, more people and talk about some interesting things. And we're going to have some explosive conversations. I mean, that's really, really my focus, my goal. I want to have explosive conversation. Like I was talking about my favorite, you know, poetry from Sonia Sanchez, the home girls and hand grenades. That's what it's about. I want to have that conversation in a safe space and, you know, perhaps maybe help people, you know, with the conversation to elevate them and to lift them up. You know, we get a lot of low vibrational things happening in the world. You know, you just show that the young sister that's missing and that really, that really hurt me for just that five
Starting point is 01:48:21 seconds because I'm thinking about, you know, my little nieces and nephews. You know what I mean? So there's so much negativity in the world. And I really want to just put something out there that's positive. And I hope people tune in and I hope they, you know, they get into it. They got to tune in. They got to tune in. I'm trying to raise the vibration of the conversation, you know, and evoke empathy.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Well, that's one of the reasons why we have that segment because, frankly, it's a lot of Black folks who are missing. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Real people, real perspectives. This kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Starting point is 01:49:21 We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. We'll see you next time. season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Here's the deal. We got to set ourselves up. See, retirement is the long game. We gotta make moves and make them early. Set up goals. Don't worry about a setback. Just save up and stack up
Starting point is 01:50:13 to reach them. Let's put ourselves in the right position. Pre-game to greater things. Start building your retirement plan at thisispretirement.org brought to you by AARP and the Ad Council. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Starting point is 01:50:37 Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. B one two and three on may 21st and episodes four five and six on june 4th ad free at lava for good plus on apple podcasts and never get talked about never get reported and so we do it every single day. Let's go to our questions. Rebecca, your question for Dee Barnes. Dee, thank you so much for joining us tonight. So there is a lot of former hip-hop artists who are now transitioning into content creation. And so a lot of us listen to them. Like a lot of us devoured the complex list that I was listing the most influential hip hop artists who are now podcasters, other content. So you have Wallow and Gilly and Joe Budden and Math Hapa and Noriega.
Starting point is 01:52:14 So based upon with how you're formatting your show, what will set you apart from some of the other folks in the game? Well, just the fact that you just named a lot of men in particular, I don't think enough women in hip hop get that platform. I don't think that they're heard at all. And that's one of my main focuses and goal is to pass the mic to, you know, women in hip hop, women in the music industry, women in entertainment, just, you know, pass the mic to them and have them tell and share their stories and their struggles. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:52:43 Because we can all relate to that. But that's how I'm going to stand out from everybody else because a lot of the focus is on the men and then when we do uh talk to the women there's only a few of them you know so I want to make sure we talk to as many people as I possibly can and it's not that I'm not going to have men on the show I just want to focus on the women because I feel like we're the ones that are not heard. That's why I'm rocking, you know, my Malcolm X right here. We're the most, you know, disrespected, unprotected and neglected, you know, demographic in America. And so I really want to, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:19 bring that focus back to women and issues that impact them. Scott. Dee, congratulations. I'm sorry. Hey, Dee, congratulations on your show. I don't know your story, but I will certainly review it or look for it. But I know about success and failure. And I believe the Lord takes us down before he brings us up. And so
Starting point is 01:53:46 with this new venture, how would you define success for the show? And how do you define success vis-a-vis your life generally? Success for the show, I believe would be just having people tune in, just having people pay attention and support, you know, Black-owned media. The fact that I was out for so long in the industry and I'm coming back on Black-owned media, you can't tell me there isn't a God. God is so good. And, you know, it makes me so proud and happy to be part of this network. You know what I mean? This is a historical thing. This is, you know, Black-owned media? Black Star Network?
Starting point is 01:54:26 Come on. You can't tell me there isn't a God. God is good. All the time, God is good. All the time. All the time, God is good. Hopefully, I have people tune in. When people start realizing that I'm back on the air, I have a lot of people that used to watch me and then hopefully bring in new, you know, new viewers.
Starting point is 01:54:48 And we'll see. We're going to grow from there, especially going from a weekly to, you know, a couple of days to a daily show. This is going to be interesting. I've never been on the air, you know, daily. So this is going to be something, you know, it's a new adventure, new challenge for me. And I'm so grateful to, you know, Roland for giving me this opportunity and for the people that, you know, said good things about me to Roland to help me get to this point. Thank you. Thank you all. Indeed. Robert Petillo, what you got? I want to kind of circle back to what you were saying about highlighting female emcees. Again,
Starting point is 01:55:23 congratulations. We're all looking forward to the show coming up. But, you know, I think we've kind of had a race to the bottom with these Gen Z female emcees, with some of the lyrics, some of the visuals, et cetera. What can be done to highlight some of the positive female emcees and artists, particularly younger ones who are out there and who exist, but they're not getting the same attention as, you know, Sukihana or Setsu Red or, you know, some of these more vulgar female rappers who are basically taking misogyny from male rappers and just wrapping it in female packaging and then making the same white executive rich as always. How can we highlight positive female emcees? Well, I'm definitely going to be platforming a lot of positive female MCs, but I want to circle back to what you said, because you brought up the fact that the women have taken that, you know, tone, I don't think that they should be looked down upon. But what I do want to do is open up and broaden it
Starting point is 01:56:31 to these other women out there that are speaking, you know, higher, higher subject matters, different subject matters, and they're not being heard, which is why I'm talking about passing the mic to them. There's so many women, you know, like we never talk about Rhapsody enough. We never talk about Chica, Ciroc, Bahamadia. There's so many women out there that it's just not that what you're just, you know, pointing out about that type of music. And then on the other tip too, I feel like, you know, women owning their sexuality and their agency, there's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But there needs to be balance. I do agree with you that there needs to be balance. But there's nothing wrong about a woman owning her sexuality.
Starting point is 01:57:14 You know what I mean? You might find it vulgar, but there's other, you know, we can talk about old school comedians that were vulgar. You know, I'm thinking in particular like a red fox or a dolomite. Those are vulgar, you know, things that they said, you know what I mean? But nobody is coming down on them in particular. So when women do it, when we have like a Millie Jackson, for instance, who was considered very vulgar, but she still, you know, got her point. Now, Millie wasn't considered vulgar. Millie will tell you I was. I mean, you know, what's wrong with that?
Starting point is 01:57:51 You know what I mean? First of all, I love Mrs. Millie because Millie, I used to be on the radio with Millie. We were on the same radio station in Dallas, KKDA Radio. She's in Atlanta. I was a news rep, the morning anchor there. But Millie didn't care and millie still don't care right exactly i you know i just i understand your point i just don't want it to be oh we're
Starting point is 01:58:11 just going to come down on these women because they you know this is the image that they're projecting because this image was there before hip-hop or music you know was out there this is this is something that's you know in society in society in general. We just need to have balance. And hopefully on a platform that, like The Frequency, we will have balance because we will talk to other women on different other subjects. You know what I mean? D, we appreciate it, folks. The Frequency will drop a new episode every Thursday, every Thursday right here on Roland Martin, excuse me, on the Black Star Network. And again, right now it's a weekly, but we'll be building up. And hopefully in 90 days, we'll be five days a week with Dee Barnes.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Dee, we appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. And welcome to BSN. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you, Black Star Network. All right. Thank you. Got to go to a break we
Starting point is 01:59:05 come back tech talk that's next rolling back unfiltered on the black star network up next on the frequency with me d barn we're gonna talk talk to Leslie Segar, a.k.a. Big Les, and talk about her incredible career as a dancer, choreographer, and VJ of Rap City. Magic Johnson was there, so half the NBA was there. He won the Supermodel for all the Supermodels were there every day. After, like it was a who's who of who's who. Right here on The Frequency and the Black Star Network. When you talk about blackness and what happens in black culture, you're about covering these things that matter to us,
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Starting point is 02:00:50 Qubit, the maker of the Qubit Shuffle and the Wham Dance. What's going on? I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs Podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
Starting point is 02:01:05 We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Starting point is 02:01:31 Marine Corps vet. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two
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Starting point is 02:02:37 asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
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Starting point is 02:04:06 All right. Many folks are cash poor, meaning they have limited savings and live paycheck to paycheck. In those situations, they find it difficult to actually borrow money from a bank or another financial institution. Solo Funds, they are trying to change that by helping undeserved communities access necessary resources around securing capital and building on it. Solo Funds, head of regulatory and government affairs, Kyle George, is here to explain how the first black-owned fintech company can help you gain financial independence. Kyle, thanks a bunch. First of all, who owns Solo Funds? Hey, Roland. It's good to be on. Thanks for having us.
Starting point is 02:04:53 The solar fund is owned by two brothers, two black men, Travis and Rodney, who identified a need in our communities. They came from the communities that we serve, meaning communities that have little to no access to short-term capital. They identified a problem. They saw it firsthand among their family and their loved ones, and they came up with a solution to address it. When did they start it? 2018. We've been around since 2018. And so in terms of, so walk us through in terms of what they do. Look, there are people out there, they understand the concept of pawn shops, of payday lenders. So somebody's watching, going or listening, going, okay, how do I access solo funds? How do I reach them? How do I communicate with them? Yeah. So those are the most familiar things we turn to when we need
Starting point is 02:05:39 short-term capital, right? In our communities, they're quite pervasive. We see a lot of title-owned companies, pawn shops, payday lenders. And the problem with this is that these are all predatory solutions that aren't there to benefit us. What they do, they often put us into a debt spiral that make us worse off than when we started. What Solo does, on the other hand, we've taken a solution that's familiar to our community. We've taken the same solution that we see in our churches, where we go to our neighbors to borrow money when we're in need. So Solo is a microloan community lending platform. And what that means is that we connect borrowers who need short-term loans with lenders who might have a little bit of extra cash this month and want to help out. So what borrowers get is access to small dollar loans that banks don't want to touch. We're
Starting point is 02:06:29 talking about amounts as little as 20 bucks up to 575. And the lenders in turn get to actually make some money instead of having their money sit stagnant in a bank account. So we're connecting people with each other, people who have money with people who need money and help each other out. So the least amount you can access is 20 bucks and the maximum is 575. Is that per 30 days? Is that, I mean, so what about that? Yeah, so that's a great question. So basically we allow our users one loan at a time. So every borrower, I'm sorry, we allow borrowers access to one loan at a time. We don't want them to overextend themselves. We want to make sure that they aren't getting into a situation where they can't repay. So as soon as they repay that loan, they eligible take another one out. So we've built a lot of safeguards into our product to make sure
Starting point is 02:07:21 that our users don't get themselves in trouble. So the first thing we do when you're new to the platform, the amount you can borrow is small. You might be capped at, let's say, $100, for example. Once you satisfactorily pay that back, and to be clear, this is when I say short term, we're talking up to 35 days max. So you can tell me, hey, Roland, I want to borrow $20 for a week. I need gas money just to get to work this week. And you can say, yeah, I'll help you.
Starting point is 02:07:47 I'll do that. As soon as I pay you back that $20 in seven days, I can then turn around and borrow more money when the need arises. So one loan at a time, but you can do it as often as you wish. So now y'all are operating, but then several states say, hey, let's just slow down. What, D.C., Connecticut and others, because they didn't understand what your business model, because you're in a business that is regulated by the government. But those things have been cleared, correct? Yes. So to be clear, last week, Friday, we announced a resolution on an ability to resume operations in the District of Columbia.
Starting point is 02:08:29 That was really big. So that's one of the reasons I came on board with this company. I think the biggest problem that companies like us face is that regulators don't understand what we do. We're innovative. We're new. And by definition, new is unfamiliar. So what happened is when places like D.C. first looked at our model, they had concerns. Wait a minute, what do you mean you don't charge interest? That can't be right. So they asked us to pause operations. We voluntarily agreed to pause operations in D.C. specifically. And we spent the last few months talking it out with them.
Starting point is 02:09:04 Hey, look, let me explain what we do, how we're different. And as a result of these discussions, we were able to announce our settlement last Friday. Questions from the panel. Scott, you're first. Hi, good evening. Listen, I'm based in D.C. Normally, the attorney general's office goes after companies, payday loan companies for charged and exorbitant interest. I didn't know they were going after those finance companies that don't. That's a bit surprising. But how do you make money at this? How does anybody make money with this business model? There are several different ways that we make money.
Starting point is 02:09:44 So, first of all, borrowers have the option to donate money to us. We're familiar with that model. We see GoFundMe when you donate to a charitable cause, when you fund a charitable cause, they say, hey, look, we have cost as a platform. Do you mind donating some money to pay our overhead? So we offer that to our audience as well. That's one of the ways we make money. The other thing we do is we want to make sure that our lenders have some sort of head against
Starting point is 02:10:12 to make sure that the loans are paid. So what they can do, some lenders are given the option to insure the loan, if you will. It's not insurance. It's just an easy, familiar paradigm. But they can buy our solo protection. So if the borrower does not pay it,
Starting point is 02:10:32 we will give them credit that allows them to regain most of their money. So the company makes money on that as well. So those are two of the ways that we make money right now. And as we grow as a company, we have some other ways that will come online. Rebecca.
Starting point is 02:10:49 How can someone become a lender? And what is the minimum investment that someone has to do in order to become a lender? So anyone in a state that we're operating can sign up. You can download the app. You can go to solofunds.com, first of all. That's our website. You can download the app on you can go to solofunds.com first of all that's our website you can download the app on the android store the apple store um we're available in those states where we're operational once you sign up and when you sign up you go through a lot of similar
Starting point is 02:11:15 questions um that you will when you sign up for bank accounts because we are regulated um under those we are sub those same laws as banks, know your customer, anti-money laundering, and so on. So once you sign up for it, you have a choice. Do I want to lend or do I want to borrow? And depending on your circumstances, you might do both. Many of our customers, in fact, do both at different points in their lives. Once you're on the platform, you can lend as many times as you want to as many users as you want. Up to you. There's no cap on lending, but we do ladder up on borrowing. Robert, this seems like a very interesting process, if nothing else.
Starting point is 02:11:56 How does this affect the credit score, both for the borrower and for the lender? Will this be a way for people to build their credit up by taking out microloans and paying them back immediately or by issuing out loans? So the answer is not yet. It's a great question because it really exposes a flaw in our system of credit scores. So we... Unfortunately... Did I lose you like we keep going lost your video i think we still have your audio
Starting point is 02:12:30 go ahead okay i apologize for that so we wanted to report this data to the credit bureaus because this is a great way for our users to build their credit history unfortunately the the credit bureaus told us that because our loans were paidaid in a single installment, in a single payment, not installment payments, it can't be reported. So because of that, we can't report to the credit bureaus. But because of that, we also don't report adverse payments to credit bureaus. If we can't report the good stuff, we're not going to report the bad stuff. It's just a fair thing to do. All right. So if somebody's
Starting point is 02:13:06 watching, they want to contact Solo Funds, how do they do so? Go to our website, solofunds.com. Solofunds.com. All right, Kyle, we certainly appreciate it, man. Thanks so much. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Thanks for the opportunity.
Starting point is 02:13:21 Yes, sir. Thank you very much. All right, let me thank Scott, Robert, and Rebecca for being on today's show. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks for the opportunity. Yes, sir. Thank you very much. All right. Let me thank Scott, Robert, and Rebecca for being on today's show. We certainly appreciate it. And thank all of you for watching as well. Leave any comments. Be sure to hit the Like button on YouTube. Don't forget, folks, download our app, Apple Phone, Android Phone, Apple TV, Android TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV, Xbox One, Samsung Smart TV.
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Starting point is 02:16:53 to greater things. Start building your retirement plan at thisispretirement.org. Brought to you by AARP and the Ad Council. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. Last year a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man.
Starting point is 02:17:18 We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to it. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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