#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Musk/Trump shutdown, Hakeem Jeffries slams GOP,Fani Willis disqualified,Mayor Adams corruption case

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

12.19.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Musk/Trump shutdown, Hakeem Jeffries slams GOP, Fani Willis disqualified, NY Mayor Adams corruption case  #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's rolling, Martin. Yeah. Rolling with rolling now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Roland Martin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rolling with Roland now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best. You know he's Roland Martin now. Martin. Martin. Well, folks, after President-elect Elon Musk tweeted out that Donald Trump followed him,

the Republicans scuttled the bipartisan agreement they had to continue paying for the government. Now they have a new bill that stripped out a lot of the other priorities. Congressman Hakeem Jeffries, Democratic leader, he spoke about all the silliness happening on Capitol Hill because of the back and forth with these Republicans. It's about the harm that House Republicans will do to the American people if the government shuts down. Families will be hurt.. Families will be hurt. Farmers will be hurt.

Everyday Americans whose lives were turned upside down by extreme weather events like hurricanes and floods and wildfires will be hurt if they don't get the relief that they need and deserve to improve their quality of life. If the government shuts down, holiday travel will be impacted. Border security and border patrol agents will not be paid. TSA agents will not be paid. Small businesses will be hurt in every single community in this country, this reckless Republican-driven shutdown can be avoided. If House Republicans will simply do what is right for the American people and stick with the bipartisan agreement that they themselves

negotiated. Folks, this is a live look on Capitol Hill right now as this conversation continues. It's a whole lot of back and forth that's taking place on Capitol Hill. And so now what you have, of course, again, as I said, that was an agreement. But then Elon Musk decided to tweet that he didn't like the deal. Republicans then began to cave, begin to cower. As a result, Donald Trump then began to say, oh, he didn't like the deal as well. And so that was Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. Now, he then went to the floor and talked about, I'm sorry,

how do Republicans going to try to school somebody on fiscal conservatism when Donald Trump did this? this. In our nation's 248 year history, 25% of our nation's debt was accumulated during the four years of the former president. 25%. How dare you lecture America about fiscal responsibility ever? And then President Biden comes to office, gets big things done for the American people on infrastructure, on the Chips and Science Act, standing up a clean energy economy, rescuing America from a once-in-a-century pandemic, gets all of these big things done, partnering with House Democrats and Senate Democrats, and in the process, in his first two years, reduces the deficit by $1.7 trillion. And so we see a very clear pattern. The facts speak for themselves. Democrats are the party of getting things done and fiscal responsibility. Republicans are the party of massive tax cuts for the wealthy, the well-off, and the well-connected.

Again, so let's unpack this, y'all. We talk about the tax bill that was pushed through by Trump when he was there last time. Added 25%. 25% to the federal debt. But now they're running around trying to educate folk when it comes to the economy. What a particular joke. So what Jeffers is saying is like, okay, you know what? Y'all want to do this? The onus is on y'all. Y'all do this here. Y'all get to work. And that's exactly what it should be. It's like, okay, it's all your ballgame.

Let's talk about this with our panel. Dr. Greg Carr, Department of American Studies at Howard University. Joy Cheney, Joy Cheney Strategies. Glad to have both of y'all here. I mean, here's the reality, Greg. And I saw this tweet from Eric Erickson. He was like, you know, why is it Biden doing more to solve this problem? That was a bipartisan deal.

President-elect Elon Musk. And that's the real deal. And here's what Americans have better understand. The United States, if you thought the oligarchs before control public policy, absolutely. Public policy in America is now going to be determined by tweets. It looks that way to the tune of over 150 since four day in the morning yesterday. Where's Junior Varsity Vance, by the way? You know, he's gone quiet. So I'm wondering if he's down there over at Steve Banner's townhouse in the shadow of

Capitol Hill, plotting and planning for the great takeover. This is a preview, of course, of what's going to happen beginning in January. Of course, they want to get rid of the debt ceiling because they're getting ready to pay these billionaires off with our tax money and borrow the United States into oblivion. Now, the Democrats aren't fiscal hawks. This goes back to Bill Clinton and triangulation and DLC and trying to show themselves to be centrist, so to speak. But Bernie Sanders got it right today. The richest man on earth, President Elon Musk, doesn't like it. But Republicans kissed the ring. Billionaires must not be allowed to run our government. Well, guess what?

Billionaires have been running it for quite some time. Thanks to John Boy Roberts in 2010 with Citizens United and Unfettered Access, Elon Musk has the cheat code. It's not even a cheat code anymore because there aren't any rules now, Roman. There aren't any rules. Enjoy it, folks. Just go ahead and get used to it.

And it's like, okay, since, you know, y'all want to run a whole show, and since these Americans said, let's have them run the show, have at it. Yeah, we're going to find out. You know, you messed around and you're going to find out. We don't have a democracy anymore. It feels much more like an oligarchy.

And frankly, this is going to lead to a lot of chaos because eventually Donald Trump is going to get sick of Elon Musk, you know, stealing his thunder. Who even knows if he even knew what Elon was going to do before he did it and that now he has to save face. And their silly, immature dynamics are now changing what our whole government is doing. And let's be clear, Joe Biden did his job in that he had a Democratic Senate and a Republican House that came up with a deal. We only have one president at a time. President Joe Biden, they have a deal under him that he was willing to sign. Donald Trump should have just simply walked away, allowed it to be signed, and then he could have said whatever the hell he wanted afterwards. But to try to get in the way of the deal, because some oligarch said that that's what you have to do, is completely irresponsible. And I don't think we just need to hear from

Jeffries. I think we need to hear from the president on this. And by that, I mean President Biden. We need to hear what is going on. You know, every moment in the United States is important. We got all the way to January 20th. We need everyone's voice on this. This is no way to run a country. We had a deal. It should have been honored. Yeah, but look, of course, there was a deal. But the bottom line is they want to exert their influence. And Republicans still control the House. That's just a fact. And so it's like,

and again, you know what? That's how y'all want to roll, but I need everybody understanding, and this is what people had better get used to, Greg. There's going to be more of this. You are going to see a lot more of this. You are going to see a lot more of this. You are going to see the Elon

Musk of the world, the Vivek Ramaswamy and the others making policy. And there is going to be that inevitable clash with Donald Trump. And we'll see how that ends up. But as that what's what was that video homeboy of the hotel? It's above me now. And making policy via tweet. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I tell you, like you said, joy is chaos.

And, you know, when we think about this legislation that had been agreed to, I mean, there are little things like people here in the DMV, the idea that the federal government would turn over control of Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr. Stadium so that the Washington commanders might be able to build a new complex there. You know, I don't watch NFL football anymore since Kaepernick, but there are a lot of people out there who are like, oh my God, this seems like a small thing, but the point is this. If they can't, well, they're not going to honor their word because honor means nothing, but if they can't go ahead and push this through because Musk is screaming, then, as you say, this is a preview of January, the MAGA Muppet, Muppet Mike Johnson is likely to lose his speakership.

We saw what happened when they tried to elect the speaker the last time. You know, and Matt Gaetz damn near getting choked out. And Byron Donald's getting the back of his head palm, still waiting on his presidential hell. They put Herschel Walker in an ambassadorship before this manservant, as Lauren Victoria Burke would call him, got a call. But, you know, I think most importantly, and I don't know what y'all think about this, it seems like maybe the key to this, with all the noise notwithstanding,

is to get this debt ceiling gone for two years. So they can basically just run up the bill. But, like you said, in terms of a preview, in that hillbilly horde in Congress, people like Chip Roy and them, Thomas Massey out of Kentucky, those cats ain't going to vote for nothing that adds a penny to anything. So they're going to have to have Democratic votes. And, you know, as Hakeem Jeffries is kind of being eloquent about it in a very temperate sense, but Jasmine Crockett said, you know what she said, I guess you probably show it

in a minute, your homie talking about this. The Democrats shouldn't lift a finger. Let this pain be redistributed as minister Farrakhan or Martin Luther King, for that matter, would say. Redistribute the pain. Well, absolutely. Guys, get that Jasmine Crockett clip. She was on MSNBC talking about this. And she's right. And people just need to need to realize the level of stupidity that we're going to see a whole lot, a bunch of this over the next two years. So just buckle up. Roll a clip. This is not like one of the most senior members. Right. So basically, he had not burned enough bridges. And so they had to go way, way down in seniority to find someone that they could come to a consensus on when they swear in in January or when we all try to swear in in January. Listen, there's going to be less Republicans than we had in the 118th. Right. Because the story has not really been told about how strongly House Democrats performed while the Republicans won the White House, while they ended up picking up so many seats in the Senate.

You know who lost seats? The House. Right? Now, should we have a Speaker Jeffries? Absolutely. If North Carolina didn't cheat and take away our seats, we would have a Speaker Jeffries and we would not be in this situation. But here's the deal. There is no fixing this without the Democrats. We have seen this over and over. And I'm just going to sit back and sip my tea and wait on them to figure it out. Or maybe sip something stronger. I'm just saying it. Hakeem Jeffries. Check out this response from Congressman Jamie Raskin. Where are you on this? We we had many weeks of negotiation with the Republicans. We arrived at a bipartisan legislative compromise.

The Senate Democrats, the Senate Republicans, the House Democrats, the House Republicans, everybody agreed. And then it was blown up by Elon Musk, who apparently has become the fourth branch of government. And that's just an intolerable way of proceeding under representative democracy. So the Democrats are going to try to figure out how we can salvage the public good out of the wreckage that has just been foist upon us. But do you think that there's a scenario where you might regret rejecting a clean debt ceiling increase?

I mean, that's what they've added to this. We're going to discuss this in our caucus, and we'll figure out what to do. It's just horrific that they have thrust us into this kind of chaos already, and they haven't even taken over yet. Some Republicans are saying they've done their part now, that what comes next is up to you, and if this doesn't get passed

and the government shuts down, the Democrats are going to own this. Yeah, they did their part by entering into a legislative compromise with us, which we negotiated over a several-month period. We arrived at the compromise, and that's what we've all been behind, and that's what we expect to go forward. So who is our leader, Hakeem Jeffries, supposed to negotiate with? Is it Mike Johnson? Is he the Speaker of the House? Or is it Donald Trump? Or is it Elon Musk? Or is it somebody else? So we got to try to figure out how to salvage some kind of public interest out of the wreckage that they've just put upon us. Thanks.

Well, a great point. I love that. So who are we supposed to negotiate with? Is it you, Mike? Is it Don? Is it Elon? Which one of y'all? Yeah, and we've been here before. I mean, we have been here before. This is what happened with the immigration deal. This is what's happened with previous debt ceiling deals. You make a deal with the Republican, and then they are like, we're good to go, we've got a deal. And then they get a tweet or they get a message from Donald Trump that says, don't make that deal.

That does not instill trust. So you cannot make a deal with them. The Democrats should not engage in any more deal-making with this particular Republican Party until they understand that when you give your word, you know, Mike Johnson is a man of faith his word or a woman for that matter? When you give your word and you say we're done, we're ready to vote and to go to the Senate, and then you get a tweet from someone else, not even the president of your, not even the leader of your party in this case, but even if it had been, he's not in the House. He's not in the Senate. No deal was made with him. And you clearly had a go-ahead because don't believe that Mike Johnson would have said okay to this deal if he did not have a go-ahead from Donald Trump. This was Elon Musk and Donald Trump being too impotent to then say, hey, Elon, back off. Elon got out in front and that's what we have to deal with.

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So when we say some of you are a little stupid That's because we knew this was going to happen We told you And you chose to do it differently. But everyone on this call will be fine. Well, and again, hey, Greg, these that's what they wanted. They wanted this. They voted for it. They wanted it. And you're going to get exactly what you voted for. And here's the deal. When a new Congress is sworn in, the Republicans' margin is going to be even smaller. It's even smaller.

And so, like I keep saying, if I'm Congressman Jeffries, I'm sitting there keeping my caucus at bay, and I'm like, let them do all the work. Don't come look at us. Y'all got the majority. Go to work. It's going to be tough, Roland. I mean, Musk, I think according to reports, the first tweet was about 4.15 Wednesday morning. So he's another up all night guy. This bill must not pass. And then he starts with the disinformation. And again, when we finally have an honest, if there's still United States, honest conversation about the

election, the two major issues that are going to emerge will be voter suppression and disinformation. That's how they were able to steal this thing in the first place, to get in this position. But then he's tweeting out that in the bill is $3 billion for Washington, D.C. to purchase the football stadium site. It's a lie. It's pure disinformation. Now, that has pissed off some of these white nationalists in Congress who are fiscal hawks, like Thompson, Congressman Thompson out of Pennsylvania. You know, he's like, wait a minute, this guy doesn't have a voting card. And so, as you say, this already razor-thin majority, which is going to get smaller when they reach in and dip in for these administrative appointments, administration appointments, executive branch appointments, you know, you're going to see, I mean, hell, it's bad enough to have the nut caucus over there,

the Andy Biggs and all of them, the so-called Freedom Caucus, reminiscent of when this thing became an issue in the first place. The debt ceiling had been passed pro forma over 100 times since 1939, and it only became an issue in 1939 when the federal government clawed back some authority they had given to the Department of Treasury to do this. But it really became an issue when Newt Gingrich, who's still running around after he threw the rock and hit his damn hand, in 1995 and 96 when they put that on Bill Clinton. So this is all part of the same white nationalist backlash to the civil rights and black power movement in the 1960s and 70s. The whole contract with America. This is when this name became an

issue in the first place. But they can't hold this coalition together. Now, will the Democrats sit on the sidelines? Who knows? Who knows? Because Jamie Raskin is now going to move over to judiciary to chair the Judiciary Committee. And in his place, when they try to advance Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, they put the 74-year-old dude in. I mean, the Democrats still don't seem to be clear about what their political agenda is going to be. But at least in this moment, they should STFU, sit back and watch this thing implode. Because these Republicans, one thing about them, there are some of them who really don't

like the idea of this open interference. And Musk is going to overplay his hand. He's shown he has no impulse control. He's not a genius. He's inherited a bunch of stuff. And now he is making his money literally out of our pockets, which is why they want to get rid of the debt ceiling in the first place and keep borrowing and then put it on our credit card. But, you know, some of these people on the Republican side really don't like this. And I doubt they are going to stand up and salute. While the

majority of them will, not enough of them may do it in order for them to do anything. Well, I am going to thoroughly watch the implosion take place. And it's going to happen, and I shall do it with glee. All right, folks, got to go to a break. We'll come back and talk about Fulton County DA Fannie Willis. We knew this was going to happen. She cannot move forward prosecuting Donald Trump. She's been removed from the case. In fact, all of her assistant DAs, her entire office.

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All of this as a result of the Nathan Wade saga, someone she was involved with in all of that drama. Trump and other defendants in the case had argued Willis profited from hiring special prosecutor Nathan Wade, with whom she had a romantic relationship, and that it gave the elected district attorney an impermissible stake in the prosecution. The defense failed to prove an actual conflict of interest, but that the appearance of impropriety makes this a rare case. This is one of the stories that had been gone back and forth. And of course, once it became public, that sidetracked the entire prosecution that led to various hearings. And so what it did was it gave Donald Trump exactly what he wanted. And that is Gave them time. Gave them time to back off. Now, here's the issue here that also jumps out. And this is really the problem with the Georgia Court of Appeals decision.

Not only is she removed, her office is removed. We're now talking about a red state. So what now happens? Does the Attorney General appoint a special prosecutor? Oh, the AG is a Republican. So this case may actually die. And so this is, again, just

what is crazy with this whole thing. And I was very clear. Now, there's some people who've hit me and they said, oh my God, Roland, I think you're wrong. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it again. We are here because of Fannie Willis's decision. In this case here, I don't care what anybody says. If you're trying to convict a former occupant of the Oval Office, everything has got to be clean.

There cannot be a blemish on anybody on the team it doesn't matter and common sense says sorry boo you can't be on the team no you cannot I don't care what anybody says and so this is not oh well this is attacking her no it's it's not. She made this call. And that's why we're where we are right now. Jay Edwards Shippen is attorney. Jones is right now. All right, Jay Edwards, what do you make of this? Is this any surprise?

It's not a surprise. Well, I take that back. It is a surprise coming from the Court of Appeals that actually went against the rule that they had set not even three years ago, saying that just an appearance of impropriety is not enough to disqualify an office. So let's start there. Now they're bending the rules for their favorite candidate and saying, hey, I guess this appearance can be used to disqualify this office. And the dissent spells it out and says, you guys, in 2021, we had something like this come up and we chose not to bend the rules for this particular individual. And now just because you don't like the outcome of how this is all played out,

now you're bending the rules and saying we're going to bend the knee and we're going to allow the office to be disqualified. Is it going to go to the Supreme Court? My bets are on yes. But again, it's surprising to see that the Court of Appeals would go against tradition, precedent, start decisis and say, yeah, we're wrong. Actually, we're going to allow this office to be disqualified. But why? Why is it a surprise if you're, again, if you are a blue dot in a sea of red, you got to make sure your stuff is tight where you give nobody an opportunity to rule the way they ruled. It's a surprise because so many times

we have watched people say, well, you know, we're going to go to the rule of law. The rule of law has always been shoved down our throats by the Republican side. Let's follow the rule of law. And that's even what happened in this particular case. The trial judge said, yes, there is an odor of mendacity at this case. We're looking at, you know, the person who testified. Yeah, they're probably lying.

But, again, I have found it not to be improper, so I'm not going to disqualify her. And then you have the court of appeals say, hey, I know we never change what the trial court says. We always go to the trial court's discretion because they are the people who actually heard the testimony. We're right there at the time. We're going to go and change that. That's a surprise to us. Here's why it's not a surprise to me. We see it with the Supreme Court.

We actually see it, which is why for me, you never do anything to put yourself in a position to where it has to go where somebody else is now determining the rules. I just that's just that's where it is. I'm going to go to my panel here. Joy, Greg, Joe, I want to start with you. You know, I've had a couple of people text me and they were like, you know, you know, you should be defending the system. I'm like, I'm sorry. I can't. If I was the Fulton County DA, I'm saying that everybody on the team, if you got even a smidgen

of a problem, tell me right now, and I'm probably going to boot you off the team. I think that's right. I'm texting right now with a friend who's a lawyer in Fulton County, and they agree. texting right now with a friend who's a lawyer in Fulton County. And they agree.

This was a mistake, and I've always said it, that Fannie Willis, despite how proud we were of her and her toughness and her flair and her competence as an attorney, she made a huge personal error in judgment, a professional personal error that was also a professional error in judgment. And then she compounded it by once she was out there and perhaps being unfairly blown up, whatever. We're not naive. That is, of of course what's going to happen. If any of us had a prosecutor who had a relationship with another prosecutor on the case, we would bring it up to you. We're going to be adults here. We would all bring it up. Any defense person, any defendant would bring it up.

But once it's brought up, and even if it's unfair, she should have recused herself. Not just the other man. I'm forgetting his name right now. She should have recused herself if she had done that early on. We might have been able to put it behind us. She would not have become the story. And we could have saved so that her office could have continued with the case. But instead, that did not happen. And the thing here Greg, because of this decision

the case may be over. I mean this is what happens when it's taken out of your hands and you gotta play chess. You gotta be thinking forward and going okay, they're gonna do this, this, they're gonna do everything they can to try to end this, this, they're going to do everything they can to try

to end this, take it out of my hands. I can't give them anything. No, but I'll be honest with you though, brother. I can't get that animated, I mean,

about it, and just for a simple reason. If it weren't, if it wasn't this, it was going to be something else, and just for a simple reason. If it wasn't this, it was going to be something else. And I agree with you 100%. I'm with you 100% that there should have been no hint of impropriety. And, of course, there are people who remember when Fannie Willis, as a young assistant district attorney in 2013, used that same Rico statute against school superintendent Beverly Hall and all those black school teachers down there.

And so I know that that's an issue as well. But as Brother Shipp said, there's no precedent for this. All three of the judges on the panel that took her and her office out were a Republican. The trial court judge, Judge McAfee, was appointed by the gun-toting Brian Kemp. In fact, the dissenter, Judge Land, was like, hey man, the majority, the two people who voted to take her out, you know, we as you said, Brother Shipp, we always, or we always, there's a long history of us basically bowing to the discretion of the trial court.

We're not trying fact here. We're not, and we don't know. I mean, and so let's say that she hadn't had an affair with this brother. Let's say that there was clean as a whistle. Well, then they're looking for another reason to take them out. I'm not defending Fannie Willis. Like I said, I have mixed opinions about her anyway, generally. But that is beside the point.

This is about naked power and a naked power grab. And so, you know, at this point, I guess, and help me, Brother Shipp, I think at this point it goes, what, to the prosecuting attorney's counsel in Georgia? And of course— Yes, it goes to PAC Prosecutor and Attorney's Council and of course they're the ones who will punt it all the way to the end and let the statute run so

yeah we are in a perilous situation however she can't appeal to the Georgia Supreme Court and get them to actually hold on to that stare decisis because again if they don't hold on to this stare decis, if they don't hold on to this stare decisis, if they don't hold on to this precedent,

then what is to stop us as defense attorneys from coming in and saying, okay, well, since you said that this is the appearance of impropriety and it can disqualify these prosecution offices, why can't we start disqualifying

these prosecution offices for going to these fundraisers with judges, going out to the gun club with judges, going to the golf course with judges? Because it looks improper, right? Yeah. I think you should.

I don't know if you can hear me, but I think you should be using that. Why not? Why the hell not? So the hell not? So if they've opened the door here, let's use it. I don't have a problem with that. If that's the case, then it's well worth it. We also know that Fannie Willis has some other things to answer for in Fulton County. Some things that are done to rank and file prisoners, people that have been there too long without having trials and hearings.

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There is some improvement that needs to be done there. And with respect to her, let this be a lesson to all of you. If you're going to take on and be in a high profile case like Donald Trump, you cannot have this kind of gap out there. It's just it's not going to work. They're going to find out and they're going to use it to their benefit. And you can say it could have been anything. But in this case, it was it was the thing you gave them. Well, I just the thing for me, I just cannot stand unforced errors. I unforced errors. And I thought that this case was one of the strongest ones out of all of the various state

cases. And to be honest, I don't have any hope that this thing is going to move forward. You, Jay Edward, what do you have to do? I have my reservation, but I do think it's going to move forward. But I always think about Omar said it in the wire, you shoot for the king, you better not miss. And I have to agree with you. Yes, she made some bad decisions, but again, as I said earlier, and I say

a million times over, these same legal arguments that they came up with have been left out of court. But because it was a black woman prosecuting this powerful white man, now we're saying, oh, well, there might be some credibility to that. Let's look into it. And I think that's the most asinine thing in the world. And that's why I say to anybody who's watching, you never give them any room to come and get you.

You give them nothing. You make them work hard. I'm sorry. This one, she made it easy for him. Jaywood, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Have a good day, my brother.

All right, folks. I really do think this is a lesson, Joy and Greg. I remember I was having a debate with someone at a previous company I work with. And every time this person would kill other folks' ideas, he would pick holes. He would pick holes in every argument but you know why he couldn't stand me because he couldn't pick no holes in my argument because I said I made sure not to make sure there were any holes and he tried oh he when I say this dude hated my guts it's because my shit was bulletproof.

I would sit in a room and we would be in a meeting and I'd be like, I dare you to challenge me. I dare you to find holes. I just think that it just drives me crazy. She made it easy for them.

She made it easy for them and this wasn't even on the margins this was pretty darn clear um certainly she did not enrich herself by by engaging in a you know in a relationship with him but she did hire someone she had a relationship with which is not that unusual except that then they kind of lied about it. I personally think that some people say they didn't. But the story certainly sounded fishy. Her performance on the stand that day, I know a lot of people loved it and it felt like some kind of strike for powerful black women. But I'm going to be honest with you. It wasn't the decorum that we're used to in the court.

I'm sorry. It was out of the norm. It was inappropriate. going to be honest with you. It wasn't the decorum that we're used to in the court. I'm sorry. It was out of the norm. It was inappropriate. I'll be honest. And I think all of that, if people already felt like there was bias, that there was an appearance of messiness and impropriety, chaos already, it added to it. It didn't diminish it. It made her the story. So in this case, if you're watching this, this is a lesson of how not to do it. We'll know better next time, but it's a lesson of how not to do it. And please don't fool ourselves. I don't want to hear about it in our sorority meetings and whatever. No.

We can love Fonny. Black women don't have to be perfect. We can make mistakes. She made a mistake. We ought to own that. This time, she made a mistake. This one is on her. I just I do think

and listen, Greg, this is the highest of high profile. I mean, look, look, their case against Young Thug blew profile. I mean, look, they case against young thug blew up. I mean, hell, both judges went off and was talking about how unprepared. This is just, I guess what just angers me, this was the strongest case against this thug. This was the strongest case.

And we got the cases in New York. We got those as well. And the judge said, look, I'm not throwing the... Look, they still may decide to dismiss the charges, which I still think is bogus. Just because you won an election, the charges should not get dismissed. But, you know, it's just...

The thing is, it is what it is, but I just... It just sort of drives me a little bit crazy. I just I I tell here's what here's what I tell not even lawyers. I tell students this. I tell folk who work here. Have your stuff lined up. Don't ever get don't ever make it easy to get got. That's my that's just my biggest thing. And so that's just what frustrates me the most. Go ahead. Yeah. You know, I think that if you are black, certainly in the United States of America, and you pretend to be sane, or if you think you're sane, then you're not well. Because this whole structure is set up

in a field of violence. And when you talk about students, one of the most difficult things, I think, for law students, black law students, I remember when I was in law school, is the moment they realize that it's all make-believe and it's all about power. There is no stare decisis. There's no precedent. Right.

There is what you can ram down the throat of your opponent. You know, when we were drug-hering chains and when these rapists like Thomas Jefferson—and I suppose I shouldn't call him a rapist because legally women of African descent were property, so you can't rape property, I suppose. Thinking now about Bob Iger and Disney that showed that they're rolling over and showing their belly to Trump by settling on something they should and would have won in court. Most lawyers would agree. But, you know, the idea that the law somehow is a mathematical equation and that it exists

above and beyond human politics is a fantasy. And when you realize that, I've seen people leave the legal profession. I've seen people keep a stiff upper lip and continue to fight. And when you ask them what's going on, they tell you what's the alternative. There are many alternatives, quite frankly. And respectability is not going to improve our chances. You have a man convicted in New York for assaulting E. Jean Carroll. You have an administration, a Congress, filled with young girl lovers, filled with pornographers, filled with all kind of stuff. But when it comes to us,

the idea that we could somehow respectability our way into some form of parity belies the fact that the law itself is a field of violence. And if this doesn't do anything else, let's say that that everything would have gone through, there would have been a conviction. Well, at that point, the judge in Georgia follows the judge in New York and says, we will suspend the sentence until the president is out of office. And guess what? Guess what? You heard Steve Bannon the other night. Y'all talked about it. Steve Bannon saying, hey, maybe we should go for another one in 28.

Why? Because they're going to make the case that it's two consecutive terms that the cap applies to. And finally, when you look at the number of states that have called for a constitutional convention, they're past that threshold number, which is why places like California legislature are trying to walk back their demand from years ago, because there is no rule over how long a state's demand for a U.S. Constitutional Convention is good. And they're going to make the argument that they've already been enough states to say it, and if they can get that into the conversation, there are also no rules as to who can submit an amendment.

Although you still need a supermajority of states to pass the Constitutional Amendment, they may go back in and reexamine the 13th Amendment. In other words, there is no such thing as a rule of law that transcends human behavior. We couldn't have respectability politics our way out of it and behaving as if we could reinforces the myth that they rely on to keep us in line. I agree.

It will go, look, they'll appeal to the Supreme Court and we'll see what they decide and that is that. Alright folks, gotta go to a break. We come back. More on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network.

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Without the 2%, we getting deep. You want to turn that shit off? We're doing an interview, motherfucker. All right, we begin the show talking about the debt ceiling drama. You know what? So there have been a couple of videos that have come out of Capitol Hill that I just find to be, you know, quite hilarious. And so I got to play a couple of more. Here's Congressman Jared Moskowitz.

One minute to the gentleman from Florida, Mr. Moskowitz. The gentleman from Florida is recognized for one minute. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, denial is not just a river in Egypt. Let's talk about the last two years. It was the Democrats who raised the debt ceiling, not the Republicans last time. Many of you voted against it. It was the Democrats who kept over the government, not once, not twice, but every single time we needed to keep the government open, it was the Democrats who kept the government open. More of us voted for it than you.

And all I've heard for the last couple weeks about this giant mandate, landslide, trifecta, put on your big boy pants, pass your own bill. We're only here, we're only here because you guys can't agree amongst yourselves. So hold on a second. Hold on a second. Democrats will keep government open for the American people. We will mediate the disagreements between that side of the room and that side of the room. We will do that for you. But you got to at least invite us to that meeting.

So if you want us to solve your problem, because you can't agree amongst yourselves, reach out. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Time has expired. But, you know, there are those moments when even you get a Republican who, I mean, I think he's a nutcase,

but he's a perfect example of a Republican who's even fed up with his own side. Here is Texas Congressman Chip Roy. The fact of the matter is $330 billion. Congratulations. You've added to the debt since you were given the majority again on November 5th. It's embarrassing.

It's shameful. Yes, I think this bill is better than it was yesterday on certain respects, but to take this bill, to take this bill yesterday and congratulate yourself because it's shorter in pages but increases the debt by $5 trillion is asinine. And that's precisely what Republicans are doing. I am absolutely sickened by a party that campaigns on fiscal responsibility and has the temerity to go forward to the American people and say, you think this is fiscally responsible. It is absolutely ridiculous.

Hey, way to go, Chip Roy. Way to go, Chip Roy. Way to go. Matter of fact, since we played the Congress from Texas, let me just go ahead and just put on my hat, you know, since, you know, since we talking about Chip Roy. So he wants to, he said, in Moscow, put your big boy pants on. All right, Lauren Victoria Burke Jones is right now.

Lauren, you've been following what's happening on Capitol Hill. I've just been laughing at the drama of President-elect Elon Musk. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.

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no idea who they are as a party. They have no idea who's running the party. And, you know, 30 Republicans just voted against raising the debt ceiling, which they're typically not into. But again, they don't know whether they are the I don't know, Goldwater Republicans, the Reagan Republicans, the William F. Buckley

slash Reagan Republicans, the George W. They're certainly not the George W. Republicans. They typically are the MAGA Republicans, and I don't even think they know how to define that at this point. From a standpoint of leadership, there is no leadership. We got a president who likes to play golf a lot. I suspect that, interestingly enough, he did say the other day that he was going to mandate that federal employees had to work in person. I thought to myself, does that include the president? I mean, he's probably going to be in Florida for most of this presidency or on some golf

course. And then Elon or one of these other airheads is going to act like, pretend they're president, and then he's going to wake up and his ego is going to wake up and say, well, wait a minute, I can't have somebody else getting the attention. At some point, that's going to crash. I actually think it's going to crash a lot sooner than we thought, because I thought it would crash somewhere in the February, March 2025 zone. I'm starting to think it might crash, you know, over this weekend, because there's no way that Donald Trump with that big fat ego is going to allow anybody. I don't give a I don't care if it's Elon or anybody else who thinks that they are more important or going to get more attention that that ain't happening.

So at any rate, we'll see. I have this well thinking that the government might shut down. Well, we don't have we don, we don't have to see. Here's the deal. This is the vote. They voted, and 30 Republicans voted against it. And so this sucker failed 231 to 173. And I'm telling you, Joy, if I'm high key, I'm over there going, it ain't my fault. What time is it?

It ain't my fault. Let me tell you what. Hakeem Jeffries needs to do what I'm doing right now. He needs to be sending out his holiday cards. Listen, as I said earlier, Donald Trump clearly thought this was a deal that was okay to let go. Because it would not have happened. They would not have gotten that far along. If the speaker did not think this was okay with the former president incoming, the president elect.

Elon Musk, when it all comes out, he got out in front of the president and decided to scuttle the deal. Well, he got it. No, no, he got it in front of he got it for Trump. He didn't get in front of the president. He got in front of Trump. But I got you. Exactly. Exactly. That is going to be a problem to what we've just to what my co-panelists just said. That cannot continue to happen. Donald Trump is not good for democracy, of course, but it's really not good for Donald Trump's ego. There is no way Elon Musk did this with the permission of Donald Trump. He might be saving face now, but Elon Musk is right if we call him the president-elect. It's not going to be Donald

Trump, not if he goes the way it is going right now, which is why he's going to have to do something to to silence an Elon Musk. He can't have it. Otherwise, they'll never be able to get any of the things he wants done. Listen, the thing here, you need a two thirds vote. You ain't going to get that. And now they've got to figure it out, Greg. And here's the deal. There are real-life repercussions. And, you know, Elon Musk has said, hey, we'll just shut

the government down until January 20th. Okay? If that's what y'all want to do, go on right ahead. But watch essential... Just watch a whole bunch of stuff not happen. And then I love the fact that

Mike Johnson had more than a month to bring the folks back to vote specifically on disaster relief. He chose not to. When there were real life disasters going on in the country. Say no. It's called leadership. You didn't show any.

Yeah, that's true. I mean, these white nationalists have caught the car. They are the dog that caught the car. As we said as early as November the 5th, sitting there in the studio with you. They caught the car. They don't know what to do now. It's a difficult situation because Elon Musk, within days of the election, said that there's going to be some short-term pain. This apartheid son of apartheid South Africa, this clown. At any rate, he's a billionaire many times

over. Last night, Wednesday night but he's a billionaire many times over. Last night, Wednesday night, he's sitting at Mar-a-Lago with his clownish friend and Jeff Bezos, who interfered with the trinket newspaper he bought because his concern, like Elon Musk's concern, is tooling up their rockets so they can lead the rest of our asses here. But the bottom line is the haves are going to be fine. Now, TSA folk are essential personnel. So everyone traveling in the next week, in the next two weeks, you'll be able to be wandered and go through and taking your shoes off

and going through clear or whatever you're going to do. But guess what? Those people aren't going to get paychecks if the federal government shuts down. Elon Musk will be eating whatever he eats in his billionaire pajamas with his friend Jeff Bezos and his other friends as they rent Trump out to go for broke. But there are going to be real people harmed in this. And the bottom line is, sure, sit back and watch the chaos, but that chaos is going to include your grandmother.

That chaos is going to people who are working two and three jobs who can't make ends meet anymore. The chaos is going to include, as you said, folks who won't get hurricane relief because the white nastas at the federal level modeling the white nastas in North Carolina don't give a damn about those people. Finally, the MAGA Muppet had a deal.

This super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super backbencher, as Congresswoman Crockett said, who they had to pull out of the crack of their toes to put in a speaker because they failed 50,000 times to elect a speaker, he had a deal. But if this is the type of transactional chaos, again, to quote what you said earlier, Joy, chaos, if this is the type of transactional chaos we're going to see going forward, all bets are off. Donald Trump is transactional. You scratch him behind the ear,

maybe if you're Disney, you lay down for him and you settle, and then maybe he wakes up in the middle of the night and decides, I'm still against them. And guess what? That poster in Iowa in the newspaper, I'm going to sue them too. And guess what? I'm going to go get somebody to round up somebody. They're all bets are off.

Elon Musk can go sit on an island somewhere. But the people who do the living and dying in this society are in harm's way at this point. And quite frankly, I don't know if anybody in the federal government has an answer. Well, get used to this. I mean, might as well. Yeah. Might as well. And you know what?

That's what they wanted. And guess what? Trump can't say anything because he spent, what, $300, $350 million buying the presidency? Okay, and then now Musk is threatening any Republican who doesn't vote, who votes against, who votes for the CR bill, they're going to get primary via his money. They're going to threaten. See, here's what we're about to see, Lon,

which I think is going to be really, really fun. We're about to see whether Republicans actually going to have any guts and tell an Elon Musk to go F himself. Because here's the deal. This is what's going to happen. On any bill going forward, they're going to threaten. They're going to

threaten them. But here's the problem. Their margin is so small that literally all it takes is three members. Max four members to go, no. And I saw if a Chip Roy and

three others go, I don't give a damn what you think. Y'all gonna keep adding money to the deficit? I'm not gonna support it. It's gonna shut everything down. The biggest thing is for Hakeem to keep his folks in line. Oh, he'll be able to keep his folks in line. Because, you know, you just saw 30 people, 30 Republicans decide, nah, not so much. We're not really into this. Yeah. And we haven't even gotten to the U.S. Senate, by the way. The U.S. Senate, you know, he thinks he can primary

everybody. Okay. I know he's got a lot of money. Okay, that's great. Fine. Good for you. I can guarantee you that on the U.S. Senate side, you are not going to have everybody just doing what you say. Now, they may get that certainly on judges. I mean, there's certain things that, yes, you're going to see. But when we start getting into things like cutting Social Security, destroying the Affordable Care Act, you know, these are the things that you start getting phone calls on. I don't care what state you're in, whether you're right, left, or anything else.

You are going to get calls on Social Security. Social Security is keeping millions of Americans out of poverty. And so Elon Musk can play games and run his mouth and threaten and all this other stuff. At some point, someone is going to wake up to the fact that, oh, wait a minute, there's a guy that came into this country illegally who's an Afrikaner trying to run the United States. There's no way in the world that these senators and these members of the House, even the craziest MAGA ones, are going to sit for that.

Because the way politics works is everybody wants to be in control. Everybody wants power. Everybody wants to matter. And him dictating on Twitter how we're going to run the government isn't going to sit well, particularly on the U.S. Senate side. We haven't seen that part yet. We're just looking at the House. Now, they may go along certainly with Trump, but remember, this is not Trump that we're

dealing with right now. This is actually somebody else, some guy that came over here and thinks he can do anything he wants because he's got some money, which, by the way, was funded by taxpayers. Most of this is subsidy. And, you know, you start fooling around with farm subsidies and stuff like that. I'm telling you, this thing crashes and burns quicker than we think. The question is, Roland, what happens after the collision? Because they are going to have a collision. It's going to be a collision of egos. It's going to be a collision of egos. It's going to be a collision of reality. And it's going to be a collision of realizing that you don't have enough votes to do certain

things even in the House, although the House, of course, is five votes off. But it's actually tighter than that, because there's a group of people sitting there in these really close districts, Democrats and Republicans. They're not just going to go along with the program. So what happens after it crashes and burns is what's going to be interesting to watch. Well, speaking of crashing and burning, we'll talk about Amazon workers going on strike, where Jeff Bezos, he's whining and dining with Donald Trump in Mar-a-Lago. We'll discuss that next right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. What's up, y'all?

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Or maybe somebody, a friend of a friend knows somebody that works for, you know, the record label. And really, chemistry was, that was my last ditch effort at being in the music business. How long have you been trying? I've been trying since I was a teenager. Wow. And, you know, and I'm grateful that it didn't, I'm grateful that it happened when it happened

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than to be unfiltered? Of course he's unfiltered. Would you expect anything less? Watch what happens next. Well, there was a party last night at Mar-a-Lago when Jeff Bezos and Lorraine Sanchez, they traveled there to have dinner with the thug-in-chief. Come on, go to my iPad. So you see them there going into Mar-a-Lago, all the different people who were there, and Trump greeting them in that ridiculously long-ass tie. And so here's the deal.

So let's juxtapose this. You know, the world is the second world, second, third richest man going there to kiss Trump's ass. And let's let's juxtapose that with this today in New York, where the NYPD broke a strong Teamsters picket line. There was protests in seven states, Amazon workers, and they've been demanding better treatment. And you have the NYPD who was literally breaking the picket line. And people are trying to understand, like, well, what the hell are y'all doing? There was one point this brother here was arrested because he didn't want to cross the picket line. So the cops arrested him.

I mean, if you listen to the audio, I mean, it's crazy. Check, pull the audio up, y'all. Let me roll it back. I already know. You go. You go. You want to get out. You go.

You go. You go. You go. He ain't do nothing. He ain't do nothing. Yo, get out. Get back. Put him out. Put him out. So I'm just curious. Joy, who does the NYPD blue work? Who do the NYPD work for?

They work for the city of New York or they work for Jeff Bezos? Well, in this new oligarchy, they might work for Jeff Bezos. You know, I really don't know. None of this is surprising. It's not surprising that Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.

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Here's a video the Teamsters released talking about their largest strike ever against Amazon. Watch. People are excited for this strike. We've been waiting for this day. We've been prepping for this day. This is the day that they get to see how strong we are. This is our chance to truly make history. Teamsters have voted to authorize a strike at seven Amazon facilities. Those include warehouses in Staten Island and Queens,

the Chicago suburb of Skokie, and four in Southern California. Amazon doesn't want us to realize the power that we have as Amazon workers. It wouldn't be able to run without us. Amazon is scared because they know that with the power of the union, they're going to have to dish out what they owe. Amazon needs to understand that there's real people behind these bans. There's real people in these warehouses, and they need to treat us with the dignities that we deserve. These right here, we're fighting for our lives. We're fighting for our families.

We are Amazon Teamsters. We deliver the packages. We make Amazon's profits. We're demanding our fair share. We demand fair pay and safe jobs. What's going to be real interesting here, Lauren, Teamsters chose not to endorse Donald Trump. And so a lot of them want to suck up to Donald Trump. But remember what he said to Elon Musk?

He said, hey, striking workers, fire all their asses. So let's see whose side Trump and the Republicans will be on. I got a good guess it won't be the union. Yeah, Sean O'Brien is about to look really stupid, and so are the Teamsters. And I'm not sure what planet that they were on this entire year trying to pretend that somehow Donald Trump was their friend after it was the Democrats, led by Joe Biden and Bobby Scott primarily, who saved their pensions, to the tunes of millions and millions of dollars. So I'm not sure why the Teamsters or any of these

other unions thought that this was, you know, cute to not endorse or be slow to endorse the vice president or any other Democrat, quite frankly, would have, you know, would have been better than Donald Trump. But, you know, this is the game. This is the dumb, dumb game that they're playing. You know, Jeff Bezos, all of these people, Zuckerberg, they're trying to kiss Trump's posterior. This is not going to work. Nobody cares. Trump is as inconsistent a person as we've ever seen in any leadership position. You don't know what he's going to say or do from one moment to the next. And I'm not sure why they think having meetings or giving money to him or anything

else matters one way or the other. Whoever's in his ear last tends to win. There is no plan. There is no direction. They're fooling themselves if there is. And really, Bezos' performance this year with regard to not endorsing the Washington Post was just odd. I'm surprised that David Shipley, the editorial board editor after the great Fred Hyatt unfortunately passed away a few years ago, I'm surprised he's still in that position. I just came from an event for Bob Cusack, the long-term editor for The Hill newspaper. And, you know, there's a rumor, I was trying to find out from Bob whether or not he knew why it was that the Post is having trouble hiring top editors. Apparently, there's some new plan in there that is dissuading a lot of people, and they finally

hired somebody from The Wall Street Journal, I think, today. that's going to be problematic. They're going to start to they're going to lose money. As you know, they lost two hundred fifty thousand subscribers after Bezos made that decision, which is a ton of money. And I know that Bezos obviously has enough money to sustain the post and sort of just pay for the losses. But I doubt that he'll be wanting to do that for a extended period of time. It is going to be. Listen, if you're in a union, you've got to get geared up because the Republican Party is absolutely anti union. And I think there's going to be a massive clash, Greg, because you have an increasing number of people who are seeing the value in unions. And I think what you're about to see, you're about to see folk going to be really confronted with. And I'll say this here. These white union folks, are you going to choose your white identity politics over your pocketbook like you've always had? Yes. Well, I mean, that's the question. You know, it's really dizzying

when you think about everything that an informed citizenry would have to at least have an awareness of in order to, you know, move differently politically. And I say that because there was some rumbling last month, late last month, when Trump tapped Lori Chavez de Rimmer as

the nominee to lead Department of Labor. Daughter of a teamster, grew up in San Joaquin Valley in California, certainly on her face more labor friendly than what you would expect. We all remember the ancient Wilbur Ross shaking aluminum cans and whatever else in his stupor. He's still alive. But at any rate, this is different. Sean O'Brien, as you say, Lauren, speaking at the Republican National Commission,

and then, of course, the team says don't come out for anyone. Donald Trump is transactional. So, you know, maybe that cuts in favor of labor when he's sitting there in his own stupor at Mar-a-Lago with his billionaire friends. Maybe he looks at Jeff Bezos and says, Sean Bryan's my friend. Cut them a break. At which point, Bezos looks at Musk. They make a call. And maybe Junior Varsity Vance, who's been very quiet, is like, don't worry. We got this guy surrounded. Did we pull the 25th Amendment? In other words, we're talking about a transactional clown in the seat of president.

But we're talking about him being surrounded by people who do have plans. Now the question is whether the plans, like Steve Bannon, who wants to destroy the entire administrative state and is sitting in a catbird seat now, whether the ultra-white nationalist Stephen Miller, who wants to throw everybody out of the country and got Justin Trudeau running down to Mar-a-Lago and the president of Mexico, Dr. Scheinbaum, taking all of her fingers down except the middle one. And she threw it up and said, you want to dance this dance, this dance. Meanwhile, finally looming over all of this. It's China. Thomas Friedman, who's in many ways the columnist for the U.S. Empire,

just came back from China and he's shook as hell. They've got the entire supply chain. You want to talk about Tesla and Elon Musk? China has the minerals for the batteries. China has the complete supply chain. China is building dark factories. That means the only human beings in the factory are the people who come in to check the machines once or twice a day, and they don't even turn the lights on in there because the machines are

building everything. So when Donald Trump comes in and says, bring back all these jobs and you've got to invest in the United States, you saw the Japanese dude came up, I'll put $100 million. The Chinese will be like, we'll build you 100 factories. Where do you want them? Because here's the thing, we're going to build a factory, and when you go roll up to it, there's nobody in there. Yeah, that's a dark factory. There's no such thing as organized labor when you don't have human beings working. So when the Amazon strike emerges as it does, I hate to say this. I really do. But I got a lot of friends who would consider themselves super leftists who would say this is the way it had to go in order to galvanize the people who are the lowest down on the ladder to finally do something.

We might see a renaissance in organized labor if for no other reason than the lines are clearly drawn between the oligarchs and the rest. And I don't want to be part of that small, negro, petty bourgeoisie that tries to get in the way of these people and tell them vote harder next time. Because unless the Democrats change their game plan, that shit ain't going to work again. Well, it's it's it's a whole lot going on. And speaking of that, you know, I had a few words to say the other day about that little child, Lindy Lee. And she's still running her mouth on Fox News. So let me do this. Let me go to the break and let me just get get y'all to where in. And Jamie, Jamie Harrison, man, he just called her out as an opportunity.

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no nothing, nameless, let's say, irrelevant people to jump out here and make a name for themselves. And if you want to see just sheer stupidity, just turn to Fox News or Piers Morgan and watch any time Lil' Lindy Lee opens her mouth. Now, who is she? A nondescript. Unimportant member, and she claims that she's on a D.C. finance committee. I was told she got removed a couple of weeks ago.

She gave herself some other little new title. But listen to this nonsense she had to say, of course, on Fox News. But I hope y'all notice, every time she's dogging Democrats, she's running to Fox News. Maybe because nobody listens to you because you're pretty stupid. Listen to this, y'all. November 5th was a decisive defeat for the Democratic Party. She lost every single swing state. It wasn't a squeaker like it was in 2016. This is a resounding defeat. And right now, Kamala Harris is indulging in delusions of running for governor of California, possibly in 2026, or even president again in 2028. America has said this is not what we don't want to be coconut pilled. We do not want Kamala not what we don't want to be coconut pilled.

We do not want Kamala Harris. We don't want failed border policies. And I feel like I'm liberated and I can finally tell the truth that the Democrats completely failed on the border. Title 42 was a tremendous mistake and no one is willing to say that. And you shouldn't have to be, you shouldn't be called bigoted or racist because you want strong borders for the for the United States. And you should be able to say that the economy was ailing under the Biden Harris administration, that price hikes did indeed happen. But they deny that for the first three years of the administration. And when they finally did something, it was too late well lindy you're interesting to listen to her run her mouth talking about the economy when the united states actually the economy has recovered uh at a faster rate than

every other major nation in the world but but i guess little lindy uh overlooks that uh and so she's been running around again she does been running mouth, y'all left and right on Fox News. And she's been everywhere. She's going on Piers Morgan show. She's been everywhere. Just, you know, her little nonsense. And, you know, and this is literally the most attention this little child has ever gotten. You know, then she does this interview with this. Again, she talking to everybody. She talking to some little fool here, some dude on News Nation we ain't never even heard of.

And she claims that all the DNC is in complete turmoil. Listen to this, y'all. In turmoil, are people leaving? It's absolutely in turmoil. People are stepping down. Yeah, and there are going to be elections. What about the current hierarchy leadership at DNC? I mean, almost everyone's going to be gone.

They're just going to be gone. Gone? Yeah, they're going to be gone, to be clear. I thought it was just obvious that it was a disaster. Yeah, I just thought it was obvious. I didn't. OK, first of all, you have no power. Nobody even knows you. And if you want to talk about getting roasted, Jamie Harrison, who is the outgoing chair of the Democratic National Committee, let's just say

Jamie does not think highly of little Lindy Lee at all, at all. And so he dropped this tweet here today. He said, narcissism incarnate has truly found a home and an audience on Election Day.

She, Lindy Lee, was anchored at the entrance of the Harris election night reception, attempting to greet and take selfies with any and all notable Democrats. This is yet another desperate cry for attention. I also love how she gives herself all of these elaborate DNC titles. Next queen regnant of the DNC. Whatever she whatever she creates next, she should add former. Go get that contributor contract, Lindy. This here to me is hilarious, Joy, because she, again, this is what I find to be interesting. If you got so much to say about why the

party lost what they should have done, why your lame ass not running for DNC chair? Correct. Listen, I mean, I think we're going to discover that Lindy might have a few loose screws. There are people like that. And I hate to say it, but it's true. And you can always get someone to pay attention to you if you say crazy things or if you say things that have, you know, maybe some elements of truth in it, but the way she's going about it is not normal.

And to suggest that there's anything to be taken from the fact that people are resigned and are being—there are going to be elections held, that happens at the end of every four years. So, I mean, we get new DNC members. We get a new DNC leader. This is not surprising. This is normal. And if she was, you know, as important as she was,

she would know that. She's trying to get attention. I'm happy to not give her any. Well, and you can always expect this here. Here's her on Pierce Morgan. I'm leaving the Democratic Party. Y'all roll this. I'm leaving the Democratic Party. Y'all roll this. She would not inspire me to open a bag of chips.

I mean, seriously. And I think that she sort of personifies now the ghost of Christmas past, as does Biden. The Democrats have got to move on quickly, haven't they? I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future

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As soon as I said that, there were boycott campaigns against me, unblock, unfollow campaigns. I lost 40,000 followers. Really? In four days. People have called me the W word. I don't know what we're allowed to say, but you can fill in the blank. We're uncensored.

Say it. Say what the word was. Am I allowed to? Yeah. Apparently, I'm a, well, they called me a whore. They called me the C word. They asked for me to be deported. And you can just search for my name and those terms on X and you'll see a bunch of them. So, you know, all these so-called Democrats, the party of inclusion, the party of diversity masks off.

And it's even worse because they pretend to occupy the moral high ground, at least with Republicans. You know, they are who they are. But with Democrats, they pretend to be so loving and caring and embracing of diversity. But all of a sudden, when I dare to to utter any criticisms of the goddess Kamala Harris, I get ostracized me after having raised tens of millions of dollars for the party. And I'm being called a grifter. And all along all these years, I've said on TV, I've said to the press, I'm a conservative Democrat. This is not a switch for me. This is just me. This is who I've always been. And also, my donors are pissed. They raised $2.5 billion across Super PAC in the campaign. It's my responsibility. It's my duty of care to ask what the hell happened okay first of all boo you didn't raise 2.5 billion dollars let's just be real clear right there uh and this is just laughable lauren again but this

this is oh i'm just a victim they're boycotting me then yes because you're literally aiding the enemy and then this whole deal oh, how Republicans are who they are. And Democrats, it's about diversity. But this is the same person who criticized identity politics. I mean, come on. And then she said they called me a whore. I saw people call her an attention whore.

That's what I saw. Now, I don't use that. I'm not going to use that language. I'm going to do it. But the bottom line is she is desperate to get a TV contributor job. She is desperate because here's the deal. If the two places that you consistently go to are going to be Fox News, News Nation

and then add on Piers Morgan, I think it's obvious. I mean, what the hell? You might as well go to Newsmax and OAN next. Well, to Joy's point, you know, there's no quicker way. I mean, this is some this is some high planes grifting that we're watching. So it's a combination of two things. There's no there's no quicker way to get on television, particularly Fox, than to hate the group that you belong to, particularly if you're black. So if you go on and say, okay, I'm a black person that hates other black people and says a bunch of negative stuff about black people, they'll book you immediately. If you're a Democrat, and she's a so-called conservative Democrat, whatever that is, that's an oxymoron, you tell Fox Booker producer, ooh, I'm going to get on as a Democrat and

criticize other Democrats, I'll put you right on. That's the first thing that we're watching. So, of course, she's trying to get a contributor's contract, and that's the pathway to that. The other thing we're watching is sort of a, you know, a reaction to losing, a shocking loss. And people deal with failure in different ways. And you can see with Cenk Uygur and Joee scarborough it's kind of like a stockholm syndrome type of thing well uh my captor i'm now going to try to be friendly with the people that have

kidnapped me that are that are that are problematic and so they've just sort of given up and throwing their hands up and you know you see people online like mark elias who's fighting right you see a lot of people who are fighting but but a lot of people what they're trying to do is they're trying to be friends with the enemy. Some of that is just fear and cowardice. And some of it, I think, is strategery, you know, political strategery. I'm going to, you know, if you can't beat them, join them. The problem with all of that, of course, is that Donald Trump is a lunatic. This is not somebody that is just an opposing candidate in the same sense that we had, you

know, sort of, like I say, in the Reagan years, or even Nixon or somebody like that. I mean, you played, even though Nixon was a dirty politician, there was still some rules there, you know. I often think to myself, if Nixon was alive today, he would say to himself, really? I mean, you know, this is quite interesting. At any rate, but, you know, Trump is on another level. These people are actually dangerous. You know, I actually think there's a chance that they could collapse the government, you know, when they get into power. That is not off the table. So a lot of these people have given into

that from Bezos to Joe Scarborough. It is really embarrassing to watch. It breaks their brand. This woman doesn't have a brand because nobody knew who she was. So this is kind of a desperate thing to sort of align yourself with the people you've been fighting against for so many years. It's really sort of pathetic to watch. And really, you can never trust these people, because what happens is when they meet a moment of great adversity and turncoat and lack courage. I mean, you can never trust an individual like that again, as opposed to the people that you do see fighting online in the party, in the Democratic Party right now against Trump, no matter what. And here's what is why, you know, when you listen to this sheer stupidity, Greg, you got to laugh at it. I recall a lot of people saying, oh, my God, this is it. We'll never see Trump again. He can't recover from this. It just can't happen. How many times did Biden run for president before he gets elected in 2020? So this whole, this constant

attack on Vice President Kamala Harris, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say, oh, somehow it's going to be a cakewalk that she can win the nomination. She could easily get elected. But this notion, this idea that she can't run again is just stupid. And if anybody paying attention to this whole deal, here's the other deal that it is like Lindy Lee don't want to own up to. And the Wall Street Journal had an article today talking about how there was this protective cocoon around President Joe Biden from the moment he came into the White House. The fact of the matter is, had President Biden run, Democrats would have gotten crushed. And they would have gotten crushed. Let's be clear. Vice President Harris lost by one point six percent.

OK, it wasn't a blowout. She didn't get torched. Did you lose battleground states? answer is yes. But the bottom line is this here. They also held Senate seats. They increased their margin in the House and they would actually control the House if it wasn't for political gerrymandering in North Carolina. And so this is what's silly. And what a Lindy Lee won't say on Fox News

as she's trashing Vice President Kamala Harris, the Biden campaign was out of money. They were broke. The money that the Vice President Harris raised when she jumped in saved their asses. Oh, you know there's video of Lindy Lee saying, oh my God, I raised, it would take me forever to raise a million dollars.

I raised two million in a week when Vice President Harris got in. So she had all these things to say. Now, if you want to break down what happened, then you do that. You look at some of the decisions made. You say, okay, did it make sense spending money on all these concerts as opposed to putting money on the ground? How about bringing up a New York Times article of black staffers getting together and saying, hey, you know, in Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, we've got to create our own plan because headquarters is screwing this thing up.

And it didn't tell them. Or what's happening in Georgia as well. Why is it that Lindy Lee, she's got so much to say about Vice President Kamala Harris, but she ain't got jack to say about General Malley Dillon and Stephanie Cutter and David Plouffe and Quinton folks. That was the top four folks in the campaign. What about all of that? And so that's what I'll say. If you are a Democrat and you're pissed off that you lost, what you do is you actually say, let's assess what happened. What you don't do

is, is you don't go into the enemy territory of Fox News, and all of a sudden, and you're getting booked everywhere, and let's be real clear, before this election, and before, after November 5th, didn't nobody know who the hell Lindy Lee was?

Nobody. This, so Jamie Harris is absolutely right. And so if you want to figure out why you lost, that's what you do. But you damn sure don't do it by tearing down somebody who actually, who actually helped keep your damn party together after the debacle of the June 27th debate.

Yeah, it was all the debacle. And again, these narratives are so absurd that to even spend any time on them, you have to do it because we are inundated with them. But again, I mean, it's not a broken record. We have to underscore this, especially now. This is the unmistakable, indelible, foundational importance of Black Star Network and these conversations, you know, make believe has completely capsized the idiocracy that is the American electorate.

You have a man who, if he completes a four year term, will be older than Biden is now. And then they talk about giving him another term. Where is the age issue now? There is no age issue. There wasn't an age issue with Biden. Forget his diminished capacity. Forget his diminished capacity. I'm saying that in service of this broader point. The Democratic Party is full of unforced errors. I mean, when we look back again, however many years in the future, the story of this election, I'm convinced at this point. I mean, when we look back again, however many years in the future, the story of this election, I'm convinced at this point.

I mean, I always open to be unconvinced, but it's going to be voter suppression and disinformation. The fact that the Democrats got as close as they got with all the unforced errors. Yep. I mean, God bless Congressman Jim Clyburn. But let's be very clear. Part of the part of this mess is your fault. You ride with Biden and then you tell Biden to put Jamie Harrison in charge of the Democratic National Committee. Jamie Harrison couldn't even beat little Lynn Graham. So they are the monarchs of unforced errors. And with this leadership not even fight they had this

earliest week, they're showing you they're going to quadruple down on soft white nationalism. So, I mean, that's where we are. Now, that hasn't been said as it relates to Ms. Lynn. And you know, we're book snobs. First of all, I don't know what that was behind her in that shot, but the Power Broker, Robert Carroll's book, those

Lyndon Johnson volumes, you know, John Meacham and all those books, they're not the same size. So, whatever store you got to give you them cutouts with what looked like book titles on the back, let me tell you right now, most of the books that were behind you, those aren't books behind her.

So I think that sums up metaphorically what she is. In other words, this is what Lauren said. You're just trying to get a check. And like Lauren said, she's going to get a check. It's going to be a lot of people get checks. I don't know how our friend Eddie Glaude gets up in the morning and goes in there and watch that hard white NASA Joe Scarborough and Minka talk. Minka talk. I don't know how he's going to do it for two, three, four years.

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32 Palestinians. It's not on the front page anymore. It's not on the second page. It's not in the first section. If it's in the news at all, it's in the corner. What happened to the issue? Disinformation and voter suppression going to be the story here. And the narrative is constantly changing. Joe Biden too old, but Donald Trump is a thousand years old. Let's give him 50 more years. Let's be clear. This is all a circus. It's all a charade in terms of all this stuff and turn off all of those talking heads and donate to the Black Star Network. And let's batten down the hatches because this rough ride is about to get real, real, real quick. So I'm always I'm always I love the people who got lots to say, but then they forgot that there's video of the other stuff that they said. So this is a tweet that was posted July 29th, 2024. Super honored to be officially credentialed by the Harris campaign as a creator for the Democratic National Convention.

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you all and can't wait to see you soon. Hmm. Okay. Alright. So that's not the only video I want to show y'all. Allow me to show you this other Lindy Lee video. Because again, it's amazing what people have to say.

Now remember, all this trashing about Vice President Harris, this is from August 4th, 2024. With your position there as the National Finance Committee, you're on that. The Harris campaign having raised $310 million in July, that is a huge number. I know you're going to be hosting a fundraiser for Harris in Philadelphia. So now that the campaign has the money, how do you spend it most effectively? Well, three words essentially, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania.

And that's the case for both campaigns. Both campaigns have committed to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in this state because this is the tipping point state. And also, as I mentioned before, she is now able to galvanize young people in states that were formerly completely out of play. Michigan is back. Young people who are disenchanted or completely tuned out are back. The energy behind her has been absolutely phenomenal. I don't remember this level of excitement since I was a kid cheering for Senator Obama. This is just truly incredible. And just for some perspective, it took me a year essentially to raise $1.1 million for President Biden. It took me a week to raise 2 million for Kamala Harris.

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she was dogging everybody. Huh, this is what her talking about, should Biden be removed. Yeah, I completely get you. I'm not here to tell you otherwise. And I've had many conversations with donors and these are big donors. I'm talking like a million dollars each. The fundraising agreement that we currently have caps the individual amount around, I think it's $960-something, so close to a million dollars. So these people, I've been trying to talk them

off the ledge. But I also think there's something else that we should consider. It's a Republican convention next week. Trump vows to unveil his vice presidential pick. I think there's something else that we should consider. It's a Republican convention next week. Trump vows to unveil his vice presidential pick. I think it's actually smart for our party not to do anything drastic until we see who he picks, because I can bet you I'm willing to bet that Trump is waiting at Mar-a-Lago to see if he's going to be running against a woman. So all of that, all of that talk, all of that, all of that bluster after the fact. So this is what they say is

people actually, you actually show your true colors. Not when you win, but when you lose. You show your true self. If you want to see what people really feel about you let's see what happens after you lose and not when you win and people like her and there are other people like her there are people who are talking about blow the party up, all these different things along those lines.

And again, I'm just going to compare you to the other side. What happened? All of those people. January 6th is going to be the end of Trump. What happened? And what did they do? And this is this is the whole thing here. See, the real deal. She's talking about joy. She's talking about the border, the border. And she I'm a conservative Democrat. All these things. And she said, oh, I can feel it. The excitement around Trump in the economy. OK, knock yourself out. But the question is, what are your values? And when they begin to make decisions that are hurting people, then where are you going to be, little Lindy Lee?

And if you want to leave the party, go leave the party. But you know what this tells me? This tells me, Joy, she never had she never had any credibility. She never had any fight in her. If you are so weak that after two or three days of television hits, you now ready to run, girl, bye. Yeah, I don't know anyone who even really

knows her. It's just so funny that she would be out there. This is clearly a person who says whatever is, you know, the thing to say du jour, right? So today, she wants to get on Fox News. She probably has

been, you know, has ostracized herself in the Democratic Party, as Jamie already said, put former in front of that. She probably needs to do this professionally in order to get money. We're smart out there at the Black Star Network. We know what this is. This is a grift.

And she's going to continue to do it as long as we give her more attention, as long as they pay her more money. There are lots of DNC members out there who are doing the right thing. If they see the party is going in the wrong direction, in their estimation, they're running for DNC vice chair, DNC secretary, DNC whatever. That's what we need.

We need people who are willing to put themselves on the line and to step up to try to lead our party through this difficult period. And we don't do that by trashing each other. You stick together, you make your tweaks, and then you move on. Because as we've already seen, the Republicans are not better at this. They are a disaster. And they're going to prove that we have to be ready when the American people come back to us. Listen, I think, Lauren, that after any loss, there should be an assessment of what happened. I believe that one of the reasons you do that so you can look at how do you get better? How do you change things? How do you campaign differently? How do you stop using certain white consultants, certain democratic

communications firms and others that are grifting, that are making millions of dollars buying their second homes and there's yachts and things along those lines. And they keep blowing things until you actually do that. All those things are necessary. But I do believe when you do an autopsy about why you lost, the whole point is so you can look at potentially winning again. I think it's I think it's idiotic for if you're a Lindy Lee or anyone else to be attacking the person who came within one point six percent of winning the White House. Lindy, you matter of fact, I was told Lindy has run for some stuff and she's lost every time. So that's what you also are looking at. And yet Democrats should should be assessing what they did. But you also be looking at what you also want. And that's also

the thing. The reality is that November 5th was not devastation for Democrats. It's not like the party got obliterated. November 5th was not like November 2010 when they got just, just jacked in elections and lost the midterm elections. That's not what happened. Now your goal is to rebuild for 25 and for 26. And that's what smart people do. Yeah, I mean, that's all true. You know, one of the problems here is that the party is just not good at after actions, particularly when we talk about after actions, after a loss. I mean, there's a lot to unpack with that. And there's some changes that I think certainly should have been made. You know, to me, when Jasmine Crockett didn't win the leadership, didn't win the messaging

race with Debbie Dingell, I thought that was a bad sign. And of course, the other day, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez loses the ranking member race by a pretty big margin to Jerry Connolly. And Jerry Connolly is actually a good messenger, but she is—she's on another level. She's one of the best messengers politically in the country. So the party is not good at figuring out, you know, what it is that is a losing proposition and making those changes. The party is just not good at that at all. I don't think anybody cares about Lindy Lee.

Like, nobody's ever seen this woman before until this moment. In fact, part of the game that she's playing is, let me say something outrageous, and then everybody will pay attention to me, and, of course, that's happening. But, you know, people like this become a complete waste of time because they're not in the business of trying to fix the problem. You know, you can't spend all your time whining about, you know, all the things that you think should have been done, that you should have said before the election. You know, really, and to be even more realist, really, to me, didn't have that much to do with Vice President Harris. I mean, this moment happened because a 81-year-old man

and his staff decided to hide from everybody the fact that he was not able to pull this race off, a fact that they should have known a good year and a half before the actual election day. And so, to me, I've always, you know, blamed people like General Malley Dillon and Anita Dunn and that crew, you know, in there that really concealed what was going on. And it's obvious. I mean, he's 82. He just turned 82, right? So there's all of that. That's what sets this into motion, where the vice president is effectively forced to run a 107-day presidential campaign, which has never been heard of in the history of the United States. That's extremely difficult when you're dealing with Donald Trump, who had been running for four years, his third race.

So to me, that's the bigger issue. And it's interesting that she never actually brings that up. But again, I don't think she really matters all that much. I mean, you want people who are in the business of really trying to figure out what the answer is to winning. And they lost. The bottom line is the Democrats lost. It's not just that they lost. They lost to somebody who is dangerous, not only for our democracy, but dangerously careless with

leadership, as we're seeing right now as we're talking. And I think the goal for African-Americans, Greg, and this is the thing that people don't seem to understand. I love these yahoos, especially some of these people who are in the chat. Roland, you're a Democrat. Never self-identify as a Democrat. No, I'm black. I'm black. I speak to

black interest. And when I look at parties, when I look at people, I'm saying, who speaks to the interest of black people? And there is nothing about Donald Trump that speaks to the interest of black people,

unless you want a pat on the head like Byron Donald's, unless you want to look like a buffoon like that fool Vernon Jones out of Georgia. If those are the kind of black people you want, go right ahead. And so that's what this is about. And so what I'm looking at is who speaks to the issues that black people care about. And I'm telling you right now, people are about to see for themselves. And matter of fact, a whole bunch of these,

FBA, B1, all these people who had so much smoke for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. Oh, they about to see for themselves. You got Ed Bloom right now who said, oh, he is going after the reparations bill. And hell,

it ain't even reparations in New York. Absolutely. Kathy Hochul said, let's just do a commission. Oh, we suing, we suing. And so all these folk I can't wait to hear their mouths I can't I can't wait to since they had so much smoke for Biden and Harris okay what y'all gonna say now brother this is you know

we talk about things being unprecedented. You know, we haven't seen this before. We've absolutely seen it before. Our ancestors were drug-hering change. For all the foundational black Americans, FB1, B1, whatever the acronyms are, I call them black-faced nativists. If they really did know U.S. history, they would understand much more clearly that we have seen this before. You lynch and drown. You drown, maim, beat up, then kill and dump into the Tallahatchie River a 14-year-old boy from Chicago.

And then your friends get on the jury and let you go. And then you sell your story to Life Magazine for profit. We are now in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s, except now we have the internet and nuclear weapons. So there's much more at stake. We know how we organized at that point to resist, but that doesn't work anymore, in part because one of the things that desegregation did and integration did is erode a sense of solidarity politics that was able at least to prop up a nascent middle class in the black community. And in many ways, in terms of a working class and the working poor, enable us to come together enough to push through at least some nominal gains in terms of legal rights. Now, you know, what has changed since then, of course, deindustrialization

and now we're talking about the end of work as we know it, suppression of wages, all that is a backdrop from what I'm about to say now. When we talk about what we're facing and what our options and solutions are, it seems to me that we've got to be a lot smarter than we've been. We are at a situation now where there are fewer students in the first year class of African descent at Harvard Law School than there were in the 1960s.

When I went my first year of law school, my first semester first year of law school at Ohio State University, out of about 300 first-year law students, there were 18 of us, 17 first-year students of African descent, and one brother who's now an ancestor, Sami Aish, who was Palestinian, who came with us. That was the Black Law Students Association. When I tell you, when I looked at those numbers,

and I think it was 19, about 600 at Harvard Law, Bloomin' and Boys ain't playing no games. And we have to understand, this isn't about Jay-Z or Stephen A. Smith. This ain't about Diddy or who's playing for this team or whatever. This is now

about a fight for all the marbles, and they may very well destroy the United States of America. And I don't mean that it's going to kill all of us, but I'm saying, look, if Kamala Harris decides she wants to run and be the governor and run for the governor of California, Buttigieg goes to Michigan and follows Big Gretch, I'm not sure that that's not a bad thing to consider. Why?

Because federalism at this point is in the balance, and it could very well be that states' rights, which meant something very different in 1960 to us, may take on a different meaning with a Westmore in Maryland and with California and Michigan. We got to begin to think about this, Roland, again. Yep. I mean, this is time for us to step it up. And that's why by Democrats breaking the super majority of the Republicans in North Carolina

matters. That's why 2025, making sure that Don Scott and the Democrats maintain the House in Virginia so he remains Speaker of the House. Again, that's about power.

That's why I said the black folks in Baton Rouge, those of you who stayed at home and allowed a black mayor to lose to a white football coach who had never run for office. And he is now in control of a billion dollar budget. That's absolutely nonsense. And so for the people who are running around, who run their mouths and all these people who yap on their YouTube channels and who spend more time doing segments on what we talk about on this show versus anything original. Then if y'all keep watching and listening to those fools, then you're going to get everything you deserve. And so people need to understand. And I'm going to say this again and close this show. All y'all folk who think this is the game you are about to learn, they are going after every single program. They are going that that that directly benefits black people. They're going after every scholarship program, fellowship program, every law firm program in corporate America. NASDAQ, they sued them, and NASDAQ no longer can have their diversity goals requiring diversity

on their board of directors. They're going after everything because they say, oh, no, we is we're being hurt. We're being discriminated against. No, they don't want to see black advancement. Now, if some of you if some of you so-called Negroes don't understand what's going on. OK, but I'm telling you all right now, they shutting it down and y'all are sitting here whining and complaining. Oh, the Democrats did it Biden this and Harris this. When they sitting here, frankly, I'm going to go ahead and say it, they trying to run a train on America.

No question. No question. Maybe that's some language some of y'all might understand. They trying to run a train on America. And so let me tell you what, and some of y'all just sitting here doing this here with your phone just recording it and not getting in the fight real quick Joy

last comment I'm a black Harvard law graduate Harvard is going to suffer from this decision we had I think my year we had 50 to 60 black law students there. We enriched the school. Some great thinkers, some of us even show up on the Augustine Esteemed Roland Martin Show. Let me tell you what, it is going to be to their disadvantage.

Because let me tell you, there were some law schools who did not see a decline in black entrants. They figured it out. Well, you know, law schools with strong backgrounds who figured it out. So Harvard is the loser here. Harvard is the loser here, and they're going to see continual declines if they don't figure this out. I just had to say this on behalf of all of my black classmates. This was a huge error. It's what was intended.

But the whole thing is not only to keep black people out of Harvard, it's to keep them out of high-paying corporate law jobs. Keep them out of the federal judiciary. Keep them out of all of that. And so folk need to understand the game that's been played. And some of y'all want to sit here and y'all cool with it. Okay.

But I'm telling you right now, if you black and you listen to any of these fools, then you deserve everything that comes because y'all have no idea, no idea whatsoever what is about to happen. And as Greg said, we've been here before. So go do me a favor. Go read what those black Republicans said when they got railroaded with the great compromise of 1877.

Please, by all means, go see what they had to say with that. Go read what they had to say about those Supreme Court decisions, about the civil rights laws in the 1860s and 70s, and then, of course, eventually Plessy v. Ferguson. All of those different things. Oh, we have been here before. And if y'all don't think this is trying to go back to post-reconstruction and Jim Crow, well then all

this is is post-reconstruction and Jim Crow dressed up in a nice suit. That's all it is. Lauren, Greg, Joe, I appreciate y'all joining us on the panel. Y'all have a happy holiday. This is my last Thursday show before

the holidays I leave for some rest on Sunday, so I will see y'all after the happy holiday. This is my last Thursday show before the holidays. I leave for some rest on Sunday. So I will see y'all after the first of the year. Thank you so very much. Have a great Christmas, great Kwanzaa, great New Year's. You too. You too, bro. Folks, appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

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