#RolandMartinUnfiltered - NC Legislator Racist Question, Rep Plaskett Slams Jim Jordan, Jamaal Bowman Talks MTG & Gun Control

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

5.18.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: NC Legislator Racist Question, Rep Plaskett Slams Jim Jordan, Jamaal Bowman Talks MTG & Gun Control A White North Carolina lawmaker interrupts a black colleague to ask a racist question about his educational background. We'll speak directly with North Carolina Representative Abe Jones about the incident and holding racists accountable. Chaos erupts on Capitol Hill during a hearing on the weaponization of the FBI. We have a video of the hearing that you won't want to miss. During the Black Congressional Caucus' recent summit to fight against racism and white supremacy, the Summer of Action to Defend America was announced. CBC Caucus Chair Steve Horsford will be here to explain how their plan will aid in the fight for equitable policy. Later, we'll speak with Rep. Jamall Bowman about his being called aggressive by right-wing conspiracy theorist Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene. Also tonight, an update on the case of the Delaware State University Women's Lacrosse team show says they were racially profiled during last year's traffic stop. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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shot from the Republicans in that state. Also, chaos on Capitol Hill where you have that crazy fool Jim Jordan, his committee, weaponizing the FBI. Oh, my God. You want to see stupidity? We'll show you that level of stupidity. Also, Marjorie Taylor Greene, a white supremacist, getting mad because she got called a white supremacist.

Now she's like, oh, the big scary black man threatened me. Lying her ass off as usual. We'll talk about Congressman Jamal Bowman and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Plus, Congressional Black Caucus had their democracy summit last week. Congressman Stephen Horsford, chair of the CBC, will be joining us right here on the show.

Bowman will also be on the show as well. Plus, we'll get an update on the case of Delaware State University. Those women's lacrosse team were pulled over by the cops. The lawyer will tell us what's going on in that particular case. Y'all, it's time to bring the funk. I'm Roland Martin, unfiltered, on Haitian Flag Day. On the Black Star Network, let's go. Putting it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rolling

Yeah, yeah It's Uncle Roro, yo Yeah, yeah It's Roland Martin Yeah, yeah Rolling with Roland now Yeah, yeah He's bulk, he's fresh, he's real, the best

you know, he's rolling, Martin now. Martin! Alright, y'all. I long told y'all about the racist Republicans in North Carolina. I mean, they have done everything they can to talk about disenfranchised

and degraded black people. But we saw yesterday, again, that racism on display. This took place just yesterday on the floor in North Carolina. And folks, talk about just utterly ridiculous.

I'm just going to play this. Okay, this is Representative Abraham Jones. He's interrupted by Jeff McNeely with this stupidity. Watch. Mr. Speaker, can I ask the representative a question? Representative Jones, does the gentleman yield to a question from the gentleman from Iredell, Representative McNeely? I absolutely

will yield. Yes, sir. He yields. Representative Jones, I want to ask you the question is, I understand that you went into public school and you went to Harvard and Harvard Law. And the question, I guess, is would you have been able to maybe achieve this if you were not an athlete or a minority or any of these things, but you were a student trapped in a school that the slowest, you know, in the wild we'll say the slowest gazelle does not survive, but yet the herd moves at that pace. So the brightest child sometimes is held back.

And don't we feel— Mr. Speaker, point of order. Gentleman may state his point of order. Okay, I'm hoping I wasn't the only one that got shocked by that comment, that the only reason you went to Harvard is because you were black and an athlete. I didn't say that. I said, did that end up being one of the reasons? I do not know that. I asked him this. I asked him this.

Okay. All right. I don't mind answering. Gentleman doesn't answer the question. Sorry, I was reading the note here, so I didn't hear what was in it. I apologize and I'll reframe. I'll reframe. The gentleman from Iredell is no longer recognized. For what purpose is the lady from Wake, Representative Gil Rice? Representative Jones, do you still have the floor to sort of debate? I was trying to wrap up. The gentleman has four to wrap up his remarks.

I just want to say that, I'm just going to say one thing. Harvard had five rankings for their students. One, two, three, four, five. And when I graduated from Harvard I was in rank two. So I earned my place and I did well. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so later, the white racist who asked the question released this statement. I respect Representative Jones.

I think he's a great legislator. I think he's a great man. What I tried to ask or say did not come out right. That happens a lot, and I apologize. Don't come out, Representative Abe Jones joins us right now from Raleigh. Representative Jones, when this fool says, oh, it didn't come out right, that happens a lot. No, no, no.

It came out exactly like you often say it, and we know exactly what happens, because I think all of us have experienced that from some white bigots. You want me to respond? Oh, yes. Go right ahead. Well, Mr. McNeely

shouldn't have said what he said. And I took, I was offended. And I let them know that I went to Harvard not on an athletic scholarship, as was implied by a statement or because of my race. I went to Harvard based on my academic achievements. And I was ranked pretty high when I came out of Harvard undergrad at level two, which was right below level one, which was the highest level. And then I went on to Harvard Law School. So I would simply take an exception to him implying that I was simply there because I was an athlete and I I was an athlete, and that I was a minority,

and I'm a minority officer, a black man. But that's not what got me in, and that's certainly not what got me through and out and on to the law school. Well, here's the deal. You don't have to justify or explain away anything. And look, the reason I say we all been there, look, I've had, look,

whenever I'm flying or going somewhere and a lot of white folks see me wearing Texas A&M gear or they see this Texas A&M ring I have on, they'll sit here and go, this is how they start. Oh, did you play football?

Hell no. I had one person say, do you have a child who plays there? Hell no. Then they ask, are you a fan? No, dumbass, I'm a graduate. See, so a lot of, when they see somebody black going to a major school, it's, oh, you had to have played sports. That had to be how you got in. Yes.

Yes. And I did play a sport track cross country, but that's not how I got in. In fact, I don't even think they knew that I was in sports when I got in. I got in because I was in the National Honor Society, and I had a very high average. And so they wanted me for my scholarship, not because I was an athlete and not because I was black. So that was the point I tried to make, and I did make it clearly. And I resented what was said. However, I did accept Mr. McNeely's apology because I felt I wanted to be just as gracious and forthcoming as he was. So I did. That was sincere. I accepted. He gave it. And I won't judge it. I simply said I accept it because I wanted to make it clear to my seat mates and my colleagues that I was ready to move on.

And I am. Well, look, you weigh you weigh better than me. I mean, I get the whole deal with accepting. But but but let's be clear here. We're talking about a Republican Party that has done a significant amount of work to disenfranchise black folks. We have seen them with voter suppression. We've seen the voter I.D. We've seen them with racial gerrymandering. We have seen them where a federal panel rule was a laser like precision to target black folks when it comes to voting in early voting. And so it's not like the North Carolina Republican Party is a friend to black people. I agree with you on that. I think it's been a bad environment here this year in particular. I think more is to come. I expect that there are going to be some voting requirements now that the Supreme Court, which shifted from Democrat to Republican in the last election in 2022,

will now allow the legislature to set some rules about voter ID. And frankly, I'm really waiting on the voter ID requirements because I want the voter ID to be free since we can no longer challenge it because the Supreme Court the big Supreme Court has sent it all back to the state Supreme Court and so we must fight on and make sure that the voting privilege and right of our people is protected the atmosphere is now there's open season that they can put in these requirements and we need to keep on struggling in the legislature we are in and we're in the minority and uh but doesn't mean we don't have a voice and a vote and i plan to exercise mine uh were his fellow republicans

embarrassed by what he said uh yes. I will say this. Half a dozen or more of them came to me privately and expressed concern and apologized for him, actually. So I did appreciate that. Yes, they were. Some were. And I suspect many were.

Because... Go ahead. I'm sorry. No. And I believe those were sincere and I, I'm sorry. No, and I believe those were sincere and I took them as such. It doesn't change the climate. It doesn't change the problem, but they did come

to me and apologize in his behalf. It is. The thing here is that, look, I say this all the time. We're living in a social media era where folks got phones and everything. Many of these bigoted folks are showing us exactly who they are with their comments. And frankly, I've said this, that Donald Trump has opened the door for these folks to say whatever they want,

do whatever they want, and the stuff that they had been said privately, they now say publicly without any blowback whatsoever. I also saw a tweet from the head of the North Carolina Democratic Party who said the last time this guy ran, he ran unopposed. That's not going to happen

next time. This, to me, is part of the problem, why you have Republicans with a supermajority in North Carolina, a supermajority in Tennessee, is because oftentimes they are running unopposed. In order to defeat these people, they must face opposition every single election. I don't disagree with that. I think that's absolutely true. And we hope to feel someone in every district next time. I will say out in that area, however, when you drive through on the interstate, by the

main interstate 40, there's a big Confederate flag that flies at maybe someone's private property. But it kind of sends a message to you that you're in a different sort of country. And I'm not trying to say everyone there feels that way, but that's certainly that's flying by the highway. And so, but we still should fight even in districts where we may be outnumbered to send a message you just made. And I believe we will going forward. And I hope we will. We have to fight. We have to stand up even when the numbers don't favor us because we do have a voice.

And it makes a difference because people like you will cover it and be covered. And I believe that they have. I've ended my remarks this way on another matter. The wind is so you've heard that expression. So the wind, you reap the whirlwind. Well, the wind has been sown and the whirlwind is coming. And I believe that the whirlwind will be in the form of our votes. And we must continue to be vigilant and to be strong. And that's what I plan to be. All right, then. Representative Jones, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

You say you never give in to a meltdown and never fill your feed with kid photos. You say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it and never let them run wild through the grocery store. So when you say you'd never let them get into a car without you there, no, it can happen. One in four hot car deaths happen when a kid gets into an unlocked car and can't get out. Never happens. Before you leave the car, always stop. Look. Lock. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded

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Thank you. All right, I'll discuss it next to my panel. You're watching Roller Martin Unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network. Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene, a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence white people are losing their damn minds there's an angry pro-trump mob storm to the u.s capital we're about to see the rise of what i call white minority resistance we have seen white

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My panel, Dr. Greg Carr, Department of Afro-American Studies, Howard University, joining us from D.C., Laura Victoria Burke, Black Press USA, Arlington, Virginia, Dr. Avis Jones-DeWeaver, political analyst,

National Harbor, Maryland. Glad to have all three of you here. Ain't no way in hell, Avis, I would accept that bullshit apology. Me neither. He's bigger than all of us. I'm just going to put it right on out there. But here is the thing that's interesting to me about that observation from that person. A couple of things that I think is important that people understand.

It's been estimated that some 43% of the white students on Harvard's campus got there through legacy admissions. Yep. So let's just put that out on front street, okay? In terms of the percentage of black students on Harvard's campus writ large, they hit a record number this year of a whopping 15%.

Okay? And even if one were to say 100% of them were admitted via affirmative action, which, by the way, I don't think there's anything wrong with affirmative action. That's the least that we can give, given all that we've given this country. But if you were to make the argument that 100% were admitted via affirmative action,

that's 15% of the entire population versus 43 percent of the people that are there. The white people that are there did not get there based on their own merit, did not get there based on their grade point averages, did not get there based on their own personal intelligence. They got there because their mama, their daddy, their granddaddy, their grandmama, somebody in their family line went there. So if we want to talk about unfair admission to Harvard University, we need to look no further than the white population. Well, absolutely. And the thing that just always cracks me up, Lauren, is a lot of these white folks, they automatically assume that, oh, you got in because of affirmative action. And they always just operate as if they have impeccable credentials. Remember when you had the girl, I forgot, Sarah, Mary, whatever the hell her name was, the Fisher girl, who sued the University of Texas. She was mad because she blamed the black Latino folk as the reason she couldn't get in.

Well, when they actually pulled the research, they showed it was a whole bunch of white folks who had lower test scores than her who got in, but they did more stuff than just take a test. And again, this is what they do. They see us and they automatically assume, yeah, you're only in here because you played ball. Well, yeah, the entire construct is you can't be smarter than we are.

And you remember Donald Trump was, you know, trying to in some way insinuate that Barack Obama's Harvard degree was not legit, which, of course, was all a bunch of nonsense. And then meanwhile, him, his son in law, they're all legacy. They got in because they, you know, their last name, just to Avis's point. Abe Jones was real chill there, real chill. My energy is the Robert Reeves guy that got up and interrupted Neely, right? Reeves gets up and interrupts Neely and wants to go off and everybody tells him to calm down. I actually think that with these things, we shouldn't calm down. You know, Donald Trump has made it fashionable again

to be openly racist. Donald Trump has made it fashionable again to say things are outrageous right in front of everybody. And that is part of what this is from. And I think the other part of it is just that Rep. Neely is just a dumb-dumb. You know, I don't think there's anything much deeper than that,

other than the obvious, you know, idea in everybody's head, you know, that does these types of things that you can't possibly be better than me and you can't possibly be smarter than I am. And so there must be some other reason as to why you're here and you went to Harvard. Of course, that sticks in his craw that this guy went to Harvard. Why did this even come up in the first place? But you were right, Roland, to tell him, to tell Rep Jones, he doesn't have to explain himself. You know, you don't have to explain yourself to these people. They want you, you know, in this sort of defensive posture of having to explain your credentials. You don't have to explain anything. That's all a bunch of nonsense.

Yeah. And the thing here, Greg, this happens in so many areas. And then what happens is for a lot of us, this is where the phrase imposter syndrome comes in, where we feel a need to again explain. One of the best examples ever.

Oh my God, he's an attorney out of Chicago. Why is his name escaping me right now? And, oh, my goodness. So my man is about 5'4", 5'5". I played golf with him. I can't believe his name escaped me.

I'm going to remember it in a second. So he gets on a plane. He's in first class. And so white guy sees him. And Peter Bino, white guy sees him. He goes, well, you're not tall enough to play basketball. You're not big enough to play football. So how are you in first class?

Oh, my God. Now, mind you, Peter is like a $2,000 an hour attorney. Peter was one of the minority investors in the Denver Nuggets a couple decades ago. Peter, without missing the beat, Greg, says, I'm the biggest drug dealer in Chicago. Pulls out his Wall Street Journal, pops it, crosses his leg, and starts reading it.

And the dude is sitting there, face is frozen, and Peter didn't say nothing for the rest of the flight. Peter was not a... Bruh, that's one of the best stories I've ever heard. Like, okay, you want to to wind it in the first glass? I'm about to scare the hell out of you. That's the brother, if memory serves me correctly. I haven't heard that name in years, Roland. That's the cat that

used to wear the bow ties a lot, I think. Yeah. The only better response to that would have been to ignore him. I think Asa Hilliard said this years ago. He said a little boy was called into the principal's office after he had scored a perfect score on a test.

And the principal asked, and the white principal asked this little black boy, you know, they say you're a genius. What makes you think you're a genius? And the little boy said, well, maybe the fact that it never occurred to me that I would ever answer a question like that. You see, the problem we see here is not Jeff McNeely.

It's Abraham Jones. Brother, you don't have, as you try to tell this man, you don't have to explain anything to him. But let's just spend 60 seconds on Jeff McNeely. Jeff McNeely, who's the president and owner of a feed company, a G&M milling company, founded in 1957, seven years before he was born. Jeff McNeely, a 1964 graduate, I'm sorry, 1986 graduate of North Carolina State. His only degree, by the way, because after that, he went into the family business. See, Avis is right, Doc, you're right. We're going to talk about affirmative action in just five minutes,

because they're getting ready to get rid of affirmative action in the next couple of weeks. The Harvard case, they're going to get rid of it there in North Carolina. But let's talk about what the real affirmative action is in this country, which is whiteness. Jeff McNeely. Jeff McNeely, who after running the family business that he inherited, there looking silly in his Pee Wee Herman getup. Jeff McNeely, who then was put on the county planning board, served for four years there in the county he represents, then ran for county commissioner and lost.

So what happened? They eased him back on the county board for 12 more years. Then he ran for county commissioner finally and won in 2016. Jeff McNeely, who's in the legislature in North Carolina because the governor appointed him to replace a retiring legislature legislator in 2019. Jeff McNeely is the face of affirmative action. You know what affirmative action is in this country? You say it, Davis.

Whiteness. This man, when he asked that question, I would have completely ignored him. But here's where we come down to the real problem. Maybe the Supreme Court will endorse this independent state legislature business coming out of North Carolina, the Moore v. Harper case. Maybe they won't, now that they flipped it thanks to this traitorous Democrat woman who's running as a stealth Republican comes in and flips the legislature. But the point is this. Brother, you can't make them like you. You can't answer a question. You can't be cordial. You can't be gracious. These white boys playing for keeps. You need to run over

Jeff McNeely with both tires. This man is an absolute product of affirmative action. And his inherited business with his son now running it by the way as vice president, inherited his political seat that he finally won after losing, keeping him parked at the county commission till he could run again. He is the living death. You say you'd never give in to a meltdown and never fill your feed with kid photos. You say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it and never let them run wild through the grocery store.

So when you say you'd never let them get into a car without you there, no, it can happen. One in four hot car deaths happen when a kid gets into an unlocked car and can't get out. Never happens. Before you leave the car, always stop, look, lock. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council. I'm Clayton English.

I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player,

Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Sh Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote

drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette.

MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.

It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. podcast. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a

company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company

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6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Definition of affirmative action. Now, unless you're going to say that to him, the best thing you could have done, brother, is like that little boy with the principal, just kept your mouth shut. I mean, look, I get the whole idea

of... This is what these lawmakers, they kill me with the whole collegial and, you know, we get along and, you know, the gentle man, the gentle lady and all of that. See, that ain't me.

My ass petty. I'm petty. I'm just My ass petty. I'm petty. I'm just letting you know. I'm petty. Because, see, I would have used my time to ask that clown looking ass fool, pull the video of this suit he got on,

I would have straight up, no-hose bard, lit his ass up. I would have straight up, no-hose bard, lit his ass up. I would have said, Representative, would you mind pulling out your high school transcript? I literally would have said, are you sad and offended that you didn't have the credentials to get into Harvard? That you had no choice?

And then I would have said, you know, I find it interesting that you Republicans love to complain about elite universities, but you're wondering how I got into Harvard. I would have been petty. I'm just letting y'all know. Roe would have been real petty. Just like I was petty at Texas A&M when I went to speech communications class and my topic was affirmative action

and I got real petty with the class. And I had some white classmates, white boys and white girls who did not agree with it. And I said, let me ask you a question. To the students in the class, how many of your mothers own businesses? So hands went up. And I said, I'm curious,

how many of your mothers have contracts with school district, the city, the county, the state. And I'm with hands went up. I said, well, congratulations. All of you are having your tuition paid by Affirmative Action. I said, because the greatest beneficiary of Affirmative Action, white women.

Then they all froze. They were like, no, no, no, no, no. I said, facts are facts. I said, now, you might want to thank black people because the reality is, I said, your white races from Virginia, they thought that they could kill the 64th Civil Rights Act by putting women into it,

but that actually got them more votes. I said, so it's really because of black people that your mama got those contracts because we're the ones who actually fought forward because it was President Lyndon Baines Johnson who gave the speech at Howard University where he talked about taking affirmative action and said that's what started. who came out of the Nixon administration and moved it forward, I said, so all of y'all who are sitting in this class whose mamas have governmental contracts, you should be thanking black people because affirmative action is how your mamas got their money. That's how petty I got.

And this is how we... See, again, I am am NOT I ain't explaining Justifying Nothing to nobody. I ain't justifying nothing to black people I damn sure they go justify nothing to anybody white you not gonna sit here and question. How did I achieve this? How do I achieve that? I mean, I'm just not going to do it. And you're not going to also think that you can talk to me in a language that I understand.

Last point before I go to the break. So the previous house I lived in, 10,000 square foot, four and a half acres. And so we move in, got my six nieces there in the driveway, you know, shooting baskets and everything like that. So a white guy next door decides to come by and be neighborly. And let me be real clear with y'all, I don't like neighbors. I don't want to talk... I see people and talk to people every day.

I don't want to talk to nobody when I get home. I just really don't. Some of y'all may like neighbors. I don't want to see nobody. That's why it was four and a half acres. I wish the damn thing was five acres with a big-ass fence. I don't want to see nobody. That's why it was four and a half acres. I wish the damn thing was five acres with a big-ass fence. I don't want to see nobody. So he just moseyed his ass over, and he decides to sit here,

and he's talking, and he's talking, and I'm sitting here like, why is he talking to me? And so then one of my nieces walks over and says, hi, I'm so-and-so. I look at her like, did nobody ask your last name? I'm like, go back. So all of a sudden, at one point, he goes, he starts describing,

now mind y'all, first of all, there were multiple million dollar houses in this area. The house was a million two. This fool goes, yeah, this is a nice hood. Now, I was tolerating His ass If y'all don't know me

And my family Staff could attest to this When I'm through with your ass You don't even exist You could be standing here shouting You don't exist to me. That's how petty I got with Homeboy. At some point,

we are going to understand when you're dealing with bigots, you're dealing with people who think that's how they're going to talk to you, you don't give them any of your energy. You actually make them feel so small by either cussing them out, ignoring them, or making them feel real petty.

That dude in North Carolina, absolutely, was a bigot with his statement. And he would've got all of my pettiness. I'm just saying. Gotta go to a break. We come back. We'll be talking with Congressman Stephen Horsford, Congressman Jamal Bowman,

then we'll have white supremacist Marjorie Taylor Greene. A lot of stuff to cover. Then, of course, we got that other fool, Jim Jordan, on the hill, where Stacey Plaskett had to put his ass in his place. Y'all, we got a whole lot to cover right here on Rolling Mark Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. YouTube folks, hit that Like button. We should easily be over 1,000 likes right now.

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You got to stay on stage. And I was like, yeah, well, I'm like, you know, y'all think I'm good. And he was absolutely right. What show was the other time? This was one-on-one. Got it. During that time.

So you're doing one-on-one, Got it. During that time. And I was- So you're doing one-on-one. Yeah. Going great. Yeah. You making money. You like- I'm like, I don't need to leave. I don't need to leave from, you know, Wednesday, Thursday to Sunday. I, you know, I just didn't want to do that. You know, it was just like, I'm gonna stay here.

Or I didn't want to finish work Friday, fly out, go do a gig Saturday, Sunday. I was like, I don't have to do that. And I lost a little bit of that hunger that I had in New York. I would hit all the clubs and run around. You know, sometimes me and Chappelle, or me and this one or that one, we'd go to the Comedy Cellar at 1 in the morning.

I mean, that was our life. We loved it. You know, you do two shows in Manhattan, go to Brooklyn, leave Brooklyn, go to Queens, go to Jersey. And I kind of just, I got complacent. I was like, I got this money, I'm good. I don't need to go, I don't need to go chase that because that money wasn't at the same level

that I was making, but what I was missing was that training. Yes. Was that, was that. And it wasn't the money. It was the money, you know, it was that, that's what I need. Next right here on frequency, the woman they call the gifted eyes, hip hop celebrity photographer Corey soldier

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All right, let's talk about the sheer stupidity on Capitol Hill. All right. These Republicans and their weaponization committee actually tried to act like they had these two whistleblowers, these FBI whistleblowers, complaining about how they've had security clearances taken from them. Well, it's also because, let's just say, they were aligned with the January 6th white domestic terrorist. So the Republicans interviewed them, did not share the information with the Democrats, and then got an attitude, and then one of the witnesses was like,

well, I don't want to meet with the Democrats, but then he's going to testify in open court. And Jim Jordan was like, well, it don't want to meet with the Democrats. But then he's going to testify in open court. And Jim Jordan was like, well, it's up to the witness. Last time y'all heard, leave it up to the witness to decide who should get their testimony. Well, Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett, she wasn't having it.

They give us the bare minimum notice for hearings. No subject indicated. We learn who the hearing witnesses is from British tabloids. That's not normal in the House of Representatives. One must wonder, are Republicans scared of giving us the information so that we can do our own due diligence on these conspiracy theories, these ideas that they want to put forward. Indeed, today's hearing will be more of the same. Perhaps they're too far gone to realize that, in fact, this hearing is evidence,

as if we need it anymore, that MAGA Republicans are a threat to the rule of law in America. Less than two months ago, former President Trump, facing mounting investigations into his many alleged crimes, declared that, quote, Republicans in Congress should defund the DOJ and the FBI until they can come to their senses. And we all know that when Trump says jump, the Republicans in the House say, how high? So here we are, on Police Week, watching House Republicans jump to lay the foundation to defund law enforcement. My colleagues on the far right are on a mission to attack, discredit, and ultimately dismantle

the FBI. This is defund the police on steroids. As part of their mission, my colleagues have brought in these former agents, men who lost their security clearances because they were a threat to our national security, who, out of malice or ignorance or both, have put partisan agenda above the oath they swore to serve this country and protect its national security. Just as a point of order, I understand, and we have been made aware from what you stated in your opening statement,

as well as in a press conference earlier, that Mr. Allen did meet with you all and might have testimony that was transcribed. Neither, and I understand that he stated that he did not feel comfortable meeting with the Democrats. He's comfortable being here today in this open forum. We will be questioning him Will you give us a copy of that testimony that was transcribed of your discussions with him? I'll be up to mr.

Allen, but you are in possession of them aren't you sure are so why would you not give them to us? Mr Allen's a whistleblower. He didn't want that to happen He didn't want but he's half had comfortable here in open discussion with us today. Sure is. You can ask him questions if you want. You don't share your information with the minority? Nope. The whistleblower. So you're not sharing information that you've obtained with the minority.

The whistleblower saw what you did with Mr. Friend and others, the false information you gave the press, so much so that they had to issue corrections. The whistleblower doesn't decide that. The committee decides it. And we've decided. And you've decided that you're not going to share. Mr. Allen is here. You can ask him questions. We can talk about the testimony, but right now you're not getting the testimony.

Mr. Allen's here to testify. And you'll give us the testimony when? After he's left? Or at no point in time? Or when will we have that? That's only for the Republicans. Is that what you're saying? Mr. Chairman, the General Lady did not state a point of order. The point of order was, will he be giving us the testimony of the witness that is here before us and that you have information of that you are not sharing with the Democrats? Mr. Chairman, I moved that her... I was indulging

the ranking member, the gentleman from California is right. She's not stating a point of order that five minute questioning... So the point of order is right. She's not stated a point of order. The five-minute questioning time So the point of order is I would like the testimony. I move that you give us the testimony of the individual who's here. There's a motion that has been moved to table. Chair, we will call.

So, Lauren, the thing here, these two so-called whistleblowers, former FBI agents Marcus Allen and Steve Friend, well, Allen's security clearance was suspended because he was unwilling to comply with rules and regulations. And that's really what we're dealing with here. And this is pretty much a joke from these Republicans. Look, the Democrats have been blasting them for their sheer stupidity. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, this is what she had to say to Jim Jordan and these nutcase

Republicans. Mr. Chairman, it's my understanding that... What's your... What are you... Are you making a point of order? No, I'm asking you a question. Okay. A point of inquiry.

Okay. It's my understanding that the minority in this committee under the rules is entitled to the same testimony, information, documents that the majority is entitled to. So I mean, I'm not aware that you're able to withhold information from the minority that we would need to use to prepare for a— No, when it comes to whistleblowers, you're not. And I would just remind the committee, remind everyone, look, When it comes to whistleblowers you're not and I would just I would just remind the committee remind everyone look when it comes to whistleblowers you are not. That's not right.

It's it's shocking that the gentleman... That's not right. It's shocking that the gentleman... You talk so much about the whistleblower and the impeachment. It's shocking that the gentleman from New York would state that when you were part of an investigation with an anonymous whistleblower. We had. Mr. Chairman these individuals haven't been declared whistleblowers. I can't hear five people at once, because we have regular order. Mr. Chairman, it— Tina recognizes it's— I'm inquiring, and I was not going to— And I've told you that when it comes to whistleblowers, you are not entitled to it.

That's at the discretion of Mr. Allen. Mr. Chairman, these individuals have been determined not to be whistleblowers. He does not agree to that. These are not whistleblowers. They've been determined by the agency not to be whistleblowers. Are you deciding that they're whistleblowers? Yes, the law decides. Did you not listen to Mr. Levitt's testimony? Did you not read the law? The law decides that they are whistleblowers. The chair recognizes that. You say you'd never give in to a meltdown and never fill your feed with kid photos.

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Jim Jordan is just the second coming of Trey Gowdy. Trey Gowdy, who ran that complete BS Benghazi nonsense to distract everybody. This is all about making YouTube videos so that we can send a fundraising letter out later. So to make a YouTube video, you have to set up an idiot construct of something to get people outraged, to get your fundraising going. And so you create this nonsense, you do a video. That's what they're doing with

these hearings now every single time. They used to do it with Eric Holder all the time. And it's just out in the open. It's just really just out in the open. I was an intern on Capitol Hill back in the 90s. I cannot remember any sort of example of this that I've ever seen where the minority or the majority does not share the information. That's usually a standard committee rule for every committee in Congress. There's nothing exciting or crazy about that. You know, imagine, you know, remember during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, there was this big outrage about a letter that Senator Feinstein had that Charles Grassley didn't see

and the Republicans flipped out because they didn't have that letter and all of this. But what's really happening here is that Jim Jordan, of course, doesn't want to give the minority, the Democrats, the information, because, of course, they're going to go to the press and say this is ridiculous, because it is ridiculous. And then the press will be that much further ahead in reporting how ridiculous it is. So to pull off the nonsense, to pull off the ridiculousness, you've got to walk into the committee with nobody knowing nothing and then surprise everybody and get everybody off guard. And nobody is fooled. Jim Jordan is a silly person. Everybody knows

he's a silly person. And you can't, you know, be this stupid and this crazy and get away with it in the open air and think you're fooling anybody. They're not fooling anybody. They're just wasting time. They're creating segments for Fox News. They're creating YouTube videos and then moving on to the next thing and thinking that people are fooled and they're just not. Again, this is what happens, Greg, when folk don't vote, allowing these fools to get back in power. It's also what happens when you have Democrats in New York state who are stupid as hell, who gerrymandered their districts so bad that they have Supreme Court rules against them.

But that's also what happens when you have stupid Democrats who appoint Republicans to your state Supreme Court who issue those rulings. But these people are not ready for primetime. But people need to understand if they think that this is light work, let that fool Trump get back into the Oval Office and see what happens. Roland, I mean, this is the age-old dilemma, isn't it? This is what you've been preaching for years and throwing your full body in and full resources in, getting people involved.

When Cliff and LaTosha talk about the fact that black voting matters, that people should participate and need to work hard at that, this is what they mean. A couple of weeks ago on the Black Table, we had a conversation with David Pepper, who used to be the head of the Ohio Democratic Party, wrote a book called Laboratories of Autocracy. And he talks about that food that we just saw, Jim Jordan, spelled G-Y-M, of course, as people in Columbus, Ohio, at Ohio State University, who that blind-eye hillbilly is. And he talks about the fact that voter turnout is what allows this fool to continue to come

back to the federal legislature and fight arguably to be the dumbest member of the federal legislature since the beginning of the damn United States Congress. But it's the voter turnout. People need to wash them away. I just came back from Philadelphia last week. Voter turnout in the Democratic primary for mayor was abysmal. And, you know, we saw what happened to Gary Chambers in Louisiana, and we all know. I mean, Mike Epstein in Mississippi, of course, and young Dan Cameron now. We've got to be beset with him in a potential governor battle with Andy Beshear in Kentucky.

When you stay home, this is what happens. And, you know, we're talking about people who have the ability to rule over our lives. As Lauren said, as you said, sis, I mean, this man doesn't pass any legislation. He's a fool. He's there raising money. And you can't beat him with logic, because the hillbilly is what they love. And finally, I'll say this. On the day that we saw Nancy Abudu appointed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals and put it now at a 6-6 tie after Donald Trump flipped it with those Republican appointees, Joe Manchin flipped and didn't vote for her today. And when people say, well, none of this matters and stuff, doesn't matter, if people had turned

out, you wouldn't have to sweat Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema in the United States Congress, and you wouldn't have to worry about whether Dianne Feinstein has another 10 years or 10 minutes left in her life. The fact of the matter is when you don't go to the polls, this is the kind of foolishness we have to put up with. Oh, absolutely. And Avis, you see how these right wing FBI agents, they all have infiltrated law enforcement, and these Republicans, look, these Republicans, we see what they're actually doing.

And all of a sudden, they want to yell, defund the FBI, defund the ATF. And I'm like, Democrats, beat them over the head with that one. Yes, they, you know, if Democrats had a backbone, they would. I mean, let's just, that's what's so frustrating to me, is that it's such easy pickings, such low-hanging fruit to, you know, point out the ridiculous hypocrisy of that, of individuals

who obviously can't come up with an original thought to save their lives using the same rhetoric that they pummeled Democrats with earlier with regards to a legitimate issue of police brutality against Black people. But, at the end of the day, what we're seeing right now on Capitol Hill and what we will see, as long as they have power, you know, hopefully something will change in the next election, is this is just a clown show. Bring up the popcorn. This is Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey in the people's house. Because there is no desire there to pass any legislation. The Republicans don't give a damn about actually doing their damn jobs. They don't give a damn about that. They don't give a damn about the people they even represent.

They really don't care. What they want to do, as Lauren rightly pointed out, is to use this as a fundraising mechanism so they can stay in power. And what they're trying to do is stay in power long enough. They're hoping to be able to retake the White House such that now they can push through more legislation that would be even more draconian than what they got through when Trump was in last time. Their whole point right now is to stall the reels of progress, because the first two years of President Biden's administration, he actually got a lot done, even though most people don't really know about what happened. A lot happened, okay? And their whole point right now is to gum up the

system and to put on sideshows and clown shows and actually make clips and fundraising mechanisms so they can stay in power. So, congratulations. That's what you get once again when you don't vote. There you go. You get a clown show. All right, folks, we'll be back.

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772-467-6800 772-467-6800 772-467-6800 A Springfield, Missouri teacher is out of a job after being recorded using the N-word repeatedly in her classroom. A student actually recorded this.

This is what was recorded. It's the wordat all. But I don't know. It feels like when a black person's using it towards another black person, it's the same. How is it not still a derogatory word? Because ads.

I don't know. I don't get it. I mean, I kind of slave when I used to call them call me that since just like a... So how does that... I just have to... Sorry, but... And is the word nigger not allowed to be used? Okay, so let me say right now, as a teacher, if you want to keep your job, this isn't a threat for you.

I'm not calling anyone. No, no, I understand. I can say the word. It's not... Oh... Mr. Bloom, Mr. Bloom, put your hand down.'m not calling anyone. No, no, I understand. I can say the word. It's not. Mr. Bloom, Mr. Bloom. Why are you saying it? No. I'm trying to say letting go of the office.

Now, the unidentified Glendale High School teacher was recorded again saying the N-word repeatedly in the classroom. The teacher noticed 15-year-old sophomore Mary Walton recording and asked her to stop recording. She was suspended for using her phone in class. Now, Walton's family retained an attorney to try and get the suspension lifted. The teacher who was initially placed on leave resigned. The Glendale High School principal, Josh Groves, sent a letter to staff and the families

addressing the language used by the teacher. This is what he wrote, quote, We know a Glendale teacher using offensive, derogatory language during class today. A video of the comment is being circulated and we have received several calls from concerned parents. He wrote, quote, we know a Glendale teacher using offensive derogatory language during class today. A video of the comment is being circulated and we have received several calls from concerned parents. I want you to know that the comments expressed in the video are inappropriate, inexcusable, and do not meet the professional standards for Springfield Public School employees. Now, I've heard other folks have debates and conversations here, Greg, that this was actually a teaching exercise.

And so, one, your take on this, and can there actually be a teaching exercise where the word is used? I think so. But context is everything. Yep. First of all, let me just say very quickly that the young person who recorded it was suspended for three days. And when you read the policy of that school district, it seems very clear that they don't want anything recorded. And so there's a problem there. The family apparently has retained counsel to try to

get that suspension reversed, but then they got to go into their pockets for money. You know, schools and prisons are two places where the First Amendment doesn't necessarily operate the way it does in the rest of the world. And that's problematic. I wanted to say that, first of all. But, Roland, I tell you, man, I mean, you know, on the one hand, you have folks with the N-word in literature, whether it be Mark Twain or Toni Morrison, whether you be Amiri Baraka or Tony K. Bambara, you know, whether it be, you name it. Now, if you're doing read aloud in class, I mean, you're not going to probably do that at the middle school level or the elementary school level. But what do you do with an eighth or ninth grade classroom?

You know, what do you do in a situation where it is in the literature? Now, if you are a teacher, finally, what do you do when a student uses that word? As we probably all know and have heard in the class, in the hallways, that word often flies with reckless abandon. What do you do when it comes out of the mouth of a young person of African descent or a non-person of African descent? And everybody starts giggling and then you come in and say you can't use that. Finally, as an adult in the classroom, if you're a teacher, I don't think it's ever appropriate for you to use the word in a kind of bantering-free way. But what I heard on that tape, what I heard on that recording was a teacher who shouldn't have used the word, but whose defense may very well be we were having a free-ranging conversation about the word's usage.

And that becomes a gray area that sometimes is very difficult to parse. Jack Berlinerball wrote a book called Classroom Confidential, and he said there are often very unfortunate things said in a classroom. But depending on the context and the intent, it could be that the intent was not to be racist, but to push a dialogue. I'm not defending the teacher. I'm just saying that that's a call that as a teacher, I try very hard not to be ever be put myself in a position to try to make. JOHN YANG Avis. AVIS GARCIA It seemed to me as if it was very clear that he was offending the black students in that room. And it really came off to me that this is another one of those arguments that you hear oftentimes by what I find to be racist white people in which they want to have this argument about why can't I say it? Okay. That's the feeling that I got from

the energy around him when he didn't know he was being videoed. I would also say that I find the statement from the school to be disingenuous because if it was really counter to their policy, they would have fired him instead of just, in essence, giving him a couple of days off and suspending the student who did what she did to collect the evidence that she needed in order to prove what was happening in that classroom, which she found to be offensive. And so, you know, I have to say that I just believe this is an example of the fact that our culture is continuing to get more and more and more overtly racist. People feel completely racist, not even people, racist, feel completely comfortable saying whatever the hell they want to say in this society. And this is just the latest example of this. And if there needs to be,

if this is against the rule of the school, the school should have fired him. And so my next question is, you know, I'm wondering what they're going to do if something like that happens in the future. Lauren? Yeah, I think we're way oversensitive about everything. And in an academic setting, I think that's hugely problematic. And I think that the context that he was talking about, it was the context of when and where it's appropriate and when someone's using it and not using it. To Avis's point, sure, some of that was the discussion around the why can't we use it, which is a ridiculous discussion. But I think not just with this story. We see it in a lot of academic stories lately over the last maybe three or four years

where just having a discussion about something is in itself problematic for a lot of the folks in the room who are the students. And to me, to have a full-fledged academic discussion about something, particularly controversial issues that may come up in literature and history, you have to be able to talk about things and hear things you may not want to hear. And I think increasingly we have a very oversensitive group of people out there who tend to be a little bit younger. It's like we're back in the Victorian era with some of them who are just sensitive about everything that comes up, things that they don't want to hear, they disagree with, they do not want to hear, even in an actual... You say you'd never give in to a meltdown and never fill your feed

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and race summit on Capitol Hill to discuss the ongoing attacks on democracy by the Republican Party. The CBC unveiled a number of legislative and legal plans to present in Congress that will recommend executive orders to the Biden-Harris administration to protect democracy and launch what they're calling the Summer of Action to Defend America around the 60th anniversary of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. Joining us right now is Congressman Stephen Horsford. He is the chair of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation.

He hails from Nevada. And yes, he is wearing the black and old goal of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated. All right, Congressman, glad to have you on the show. So this summit, talk about the legislative ideas that y'all want to present to the Biden-Harris administration? Well, great to see you. Thank you for having me on, Roland. The Congressional Black Caucus and our members, which we're now in our 51st year, we have 58 members. It's the largest number in our history. And as the conscience of the Congress, we understand that in critical moments like this, when our democracy and the fundamental institutions, whether it be the Congress, we understand that in critical moments like this, when our democracy and the fundamental institutions, whether it be the courts, our schools, and

the institution of voting are under attack, we felt it was important to have a national convening where we brought in over 80 participants from around the country, leaders from civil rights organizations, academics, representatives from D9, as well as historically Black colleges and universities, in order to develop a strategy, a message, and our plan to mobilize. What we know is the ideologically driven Supreme Court is on track to erode even more of our rights with the Voting Rights Act and decisions regarding affirmative action, which could have far-reaching effects on all types of racial-based policy, not only in higher education, but in contracting and in so many other areas. And so we did this convening, one, to help make sure all of our major stakeholders

who are vested in protecting our democracy are on the same page and are getting the same information, that we develop this strategy around legislation, litigation, and mobilization so that we can go out and talk to our constituents this summer about the critical issues that are affecting their lives every single day. So you talk about this summer, what is that going to look like? What is it going to entail? So I'm so excited about this. In partnership with the Congressional Black Caucus Institute, the CBC will be doing really a summer of action all across

the country. Our members in partnership with local elected officials, Black mayors, Black county execs, Black state legislators, as well as other stakeholders will be meeting and convening in different communities. We're going to start in Charleston, South Carolina, of course, with Mr. Jim Clyburn. At the end of this month, we'll be in Nashville with Representatives Justin Jones and Justin Pearson to bring attention to the expulsion of those two young men and their special elections that are upcoming. We're going to go to places like North Carolina, where the Supreme Court there just announced racial-based gerrymandering. And we're going to go into places like Florida and Texas where there are attacks on blackness, on being black, not only against our colleague Representative Jamal Bowman, but on the eroding of black history, banning of black books, and denying of the very existence of black people. So we're taking this issue

directly to our people to galvanize the movement and to make sure they know the work that the Congressional Black Caucus is doing every single day in the House of Representatives. Okay. Are these events going to be live streamed? Will people be able to watch the proceedings? Absolutely. I look forward to partnering with you and other media outlets to make sure that folks can participate and engage. We're going to do this locally. This is not something the CBC is coming in and doing to communities. We're partnering with communities. So in some cases, we'll be doing roundtables. In other places, we'll be doing town halls or rallies. We're partnering with communities. So in some cases, we'll be doing roundtables. In other places, we'll be doing town halls or rallies. We're going into Chicago in the early parts of June with Representative Robin Kelly. And we're going to make sure that there's always a seat

at the table for young people, particularly young Black men, to have their voice heard in this process as we work to defend our democracy and to make sure people know what we're fighting for. The Supreme Court may very well try to erode additional protections under Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, but that doesn't mean that we still don't have power to make sure that our voice is heard at the ballot box. There may be attempts to weaken protections against discrimination or racism because of the decision around affirmative action. And we've seen, again, the attacks on blackness in places like Tennessee. But we're not going to be silent. We're going to bring our voices to this fight and make sure that our constituents are heard in the process.

Questions from the panel. Avis, you first. What do you see as the your desired outcome, your takeaway from this summer of action that you're planning? Well, most importantly, it is to galvanize the movement, which is led by the people every single day in our communities. Learning from the experience of the Dobbs decision, the fact that that decision, when it was announced, actually leaked by the Supreme Court, a lot of people didn't know what to do. There was no plan. There was no strategy.

There was not a message. And so the Congressional Black Caucus, in partnership with the CBC Institute and other partners, understands it's important for us to be proactive, to give people accurate and real-time information as these decisions are coming down, and not only to focus on what the Supreme Court is doing, but also to talk about what's happening in states like Tennessee, like Florida, like North Carolina, like South Carolina, and to make sure people know what their power is in helping to change it. The reason that Representative Justin Jones and Representative Pearson were able to be reappointed to their position that they should have never lost is because of the galvanizing support from the community on their behalf.

And we want everyone to know that the Congressional Black Caucus stands with them, and we stand with every community that is under attack because our democracy is under attack. Our very existence and survival as black people is under attack and we're not gonna be silent about it. Marne. Chairman Horsford, great seeing you. So the meeting that you had last week, the staff, the senior staff was not in the meeting.

So I'm curious, I guess I'm asking this as a former congressional staffer. I'm curious, I guess I'm asking this as a former congressional staffer, I'm curious, like, why that was. Because typically when the staff is not in the room, all the after-action planning doesn't get done because the staff needs to be there to know what that after-action planning is. So I guess I'm asking two things. One, why keep the staff out? And two, what exactly is the plan? It sounds a little bit performative to me. Push back on me if you want to on that. But it sounds a little bit like a PR thing when you talk about the two Justins, et cetera, et cetera. Is it a legislative

plan or is it just an amplification plan? And is the staff going to be involved in that moving forward? Thanks a lot. Great question. And there were staff in the room going to be involved in that moving forward? Thanks a lot. First, great question. And there were staff in the room, to be clear. The Congressional Black Caucus is fully staffed, and they were participants throughout the entire day. And they're the ones who will actually make sure that all of the CBC staff and our partner affiliate agencies, the Institute, the Foundation, and our other organizations are working hand in hand. There are more details about the work that we're doing with Summer of Action because of compliance and ethics approval. I have to be careful about what I announce, but I will tell you this, it is not performative. In fact, we're working to develop boot camp

organizing in every community that we go to in partnership with those elected officials and the congressional Black Caucus member. For example, as you know, we have an annual boot camp where we bring organizers from across the country into D.C. We're going to take that same model and embed it in individual communities. Why? Because we don't want this to just be a one-off event one day. We actually want to seed and invest in the community with organizers who can help keep the work going around voting, around protecting our schools and our children's right to an education, making sure

that people know what their rights are around voting and the decisions that are coming down either by the U.S. Supreme Court, state legislatures, or other local bodies like school boards. So this is absolutely about the work on the ground that's necessary, and it's being led by our members and in partnerships with a lot of other organizations. Greg? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Roland, and thank you, Brother Chairman. Good to see you, Fred. A couple of things. I looked at the principal guests in attendance, and I didn't, maybe I missed, and I'm sure maybe there's somebody in the room, perhaps academic, who came from HBCUs, but since obviously a lot of this work is going to be taking place behind

the cotton curtain, I would just encourage you as folk going to those southern states in particular to draw on the academic expertise and particularly on the notion of exclusion of history and all this on not only K-12 folk in those cities and in those places, but in that HBCU faculty, which as far as I'm concerned is the great untapped resources. And among those attendees, I saw several friends of mine who are really not connected with those folks. So the same academics seem to be getting by to the meeting. But that in mind, I want to ask, just follow up with what Lauren asked, legislation, litigation, and mobilization. In that framework, how do you see this differing from previous iterations and work? We know that, you know, we beat the bushes,

we're out there organizing, trying to get the voter turnout hasn't surged. What can we learn from previous iterations of the CBC? I'm thinking about now the 1960s and 70s. You know, what can we learn from that and apply that today so that this might be different than the last cycles that we've tried to really kind of get folk together to fight back? Professor, good to see you. Two things. The summit was just an initial meeting. And while we did do the best that we could to invite as many people

into the process, I'm sure there are other people that should have been in the room, and we'll work hard to make sure we continue to improve that in the future. But let me also say, you know, we heard from representatives from Professor Kimberly Crenshaw. We had former Attorney General Eric Holder. Our own members that were providing updates on the legislation that we've already been working on around voting rights, around preservation of Black history, and their efforts to make sure that we are protecting these fundamental rights. And as you said, we have to work with our HBCUs and the local communities in partnership. In some of the Summer of Action activities, we will actually be doing that at HBCUs and

we'll do it in partnership with professors and students. They know they are part of the process. So thank you for that instruction and critique. I'm always open to receive input, as Roland knows. My job, and I'm going to answer your last question by saying this, this generation, it's our turn to carry the baton. It's the generations before that were able to get the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act, the

Fair Housing Act approved. And now it's our generation to make sure not only do we preserve those rights, but that we advance and enhance them going forward. We know that they're under attack. Blackness is under attack. Our very existence and survival as a people, whether that's from gun violence, from police brutality, from poor economic conditions.

And that is why the congressional black cause exists. So it's advanced. And the right to these freedoms are not something we carry to the next generation. All right, Congressman Stephen Horsford, we surely appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. Look forward to seeing what is next. Thanks a lot. Folks, going to a quick break.

When we come back, Congressman Jamal Bowman responds to that nutcase Marjorie Taylor Greene who says, he called me a white supremacist. That's as bad as being called the N-word. Girl, bye. I'll be back. Next on The Black Table, with me, Greg Cox. Democracy in the United States is under siege. On this list of bad actors, it's easy to point out the Donald Trumps, the Marjorie Taylor Greene's,

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And I'm Dodger Whitfield. Hey, everybody, this is your man Fred Hammond, and you're watching Roland Martin, my man, unfiltered. All right, folks. So yesterday, after Republicans blocked a bill that would expel George Santos, that lying fool went on the steps of the Capitol, held a news conference, and then he was followed by the other liar, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Congressman Jamal Bowman.

Let's just say he had a few words for both of those idiots on the steps there. Well, Greene, she was just so offended at the Shiller News conference today. And, ooh, just the white tears were flowing. I had to have so much security. There was not enough. I was swarmed. It's all on video. Everyone can see this. But I will tell you what's on video is Jamal Bowman shouting at the top of his lungs, cursing, calling me a horrible, calling me a white supremacist, which I take great offense to. That is like calling a person of color the N-word, which should never happen. Calling me a white supremacist is equal to that,

and that is wrong. Jamal Bowman was down there cursing at me, telling me to get the F out of there. And he was leading the mob right outside the vehicle I was sitting in. We have this all on video. And then on the Capitol steps yesterday, he was the one that approached me. Even CNN reported that. Yelling, shouting, raising his voice. He has aggressive, his physical mannerisms are aggressive. And he just recently shoved Thomas Massey just outside the House chamber. I think there's a lot of concern about Jamal Bowman. And I am concerned about it. I feel threatened by him.

He not only led a mob there, but his boisterous lies. And I'll tell you another thing he said outside there. He was saying, save your... Enough of that fool. The scary black man joins us right now, Congressman Jamal Bowman. Boy, you just scared... Wait, isn't this the same person who... You say you never give in to a meltdown and never fill your feed with kid photos. You say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it and never let them run wild through the grocery store.

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Literally was verbally attacking members of Congress when she showed up in D.C.? Verbally attacking members of Congress, taking pictures with an AR-15 with my sisters from the squad behind her in the picture, you know, stalking and chastising the young man, David Haig, who leads the March for Our Lives movement, stalking AOC at her congressional office. Yeah, this is her. But now all of a sudden she's intimidated by me.

And, you know, what does she say? My physical mannerisms are aggressive. But, Roland, you know, this is an old school playbook. But this is an old school playbook that's very dangerous and reckless and leads to the targeting and killing of black men throughout history, whether it's Emmett Till or Tamir Rice or Mike Brown. Once a white person says they feared for their lives, that's it. You know, now they have clearance to kill a black person simply because they're black. So that's why I respond very, very assertively today, just calling it out for what it was.

And she needs to be held accountable. She needs to be asked very directly by journalists. Do you want to see harm done to Congressman Bowman? That's what she needs to be asked. She needs to be held accountable for what she said. Well, and again, I mean, this is somebody who has been loud, boisterous. And last I checked, isn't this the same dumbass who stood up in the State of the Union, yelling, hollering, and pointing her finger at the President of the United States?

Yes, that's her. I mean, this has been her in her M.O. since she's gone into Congress. Her M.O. has been aggressive confrontation with the Democratic Party and specifically towards members of the Democratic Party who are of color. I mean, if you watch my engagement today, it wasn't even aggressive. It was more gregarious and more of a friendly banter, if you will, where I was pretty much telling her, do something with your party. They should have expelled George Santos. Get your man out of here and save your party because y'all are hanging by a thread. She was the one, if you look at the video, her hand was in my face and she was smiling the entire time. So she probably went

to bed, slept on it thought about it was like you know what if i say x y z tomorrow i could not just put a target on his back but i could raise a lot of money from my base as a result of that so uh that's who she is that's who they are q anon maga conspiracy theory republicans and that's why we got to vote them out next year, vote the right people in so we can do some real governing. Last point, and your point is obviously fundraising, but let's also be honest with what really happened here. They were defending a massive liar.

And this is a liar. Correct. Marjorie Taylor Greene defending a liar, George Santos. So a liar defending a liar, Marjorie Taylor Greene, defending a liar, George Santos. So a liar defending a liar. A liar defending a liar. And that's why we have to speak truth to power. And we have to be relentless in our pushback. Because if we don't, their lives will occupy the minds of the American people to the point where people will either come out and vote for that nonsense or stay home.

And we can't have people staying home next year, not only when it comes to the presidency in the House, but we've got to take a few more seats in the Senate. That's the only way we're going to get voting rights, gun control, women's right to choose, and everything we've been fighting for for decades. We've got to turn out strong in 2024. Indeed. Congressman Jamal Bowman, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. I guess she wants you to walk around with a teddy bear in the halls of Congress

because you're just too vocal. Peace and love, y'all. Talk to you soon. Appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Lauren, look, this is a drama queen. She's also an idiot. That's what she is. And people have to understand, and again, when people, if you don't vote in your district and then a Republican wins,

you empower someone like her. Remember, when Republicans were in the minority, she was stripped of her committees. She sat here and cut a deal with Kevin McCarthy. He has empowered this fool who has lots of power. Now the Republicans control the House. Right. I mean, I think it's likely that, you know, the Democrats, I think, have a pretty good shot

with members like her around doing these types of stunts of getting the House back in 2024. But you never know. You know, the truth of the matter is, is that the Democratic Party needs more messengers like Jamal Bowman. And, yeah, Jamal Bowman is dangerous. All right. He's dangerous for people who are lying. He's dangerous for Byron Donalds. He's dangerous for Thomas Massey. He's dangerous for anybody who's just going to lie or ignore, you know, school shootings where nine-year-olds are getting murdered, you know, at their school. So, yeah, he's problematic because Jamal Bowman is the lethal combination of assertiveness and intelligence. And when you have intelligence going up against people who are not very bright, they get exposed.

And you'll notice that Marjorie Taylor Greene is at her angriest when she gets exposed by somebody who's clearly more smart, a lot smarter than she is, namely people like Congresswoman AOC, again from New York. She seems to have a thing for New Yorkers, by the way, if you notice. AOC, she stalked at her office and talked through the mail slat in AOC's door, which was one of the strangest events on Capitol Hill in a long time. She had a real obsession with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had done absolutely nothing to Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know, I wrote a piece for The Guardian, I think it was last year sometime. There was a legitimate and very persistent concern that one of three members of Congress was going to bring a firearm onto

the floor of the House. And at the time, there were metal detectors up because Speaker Pelosi at the time had installed metal detectors. One of those three members, those three members were Lauren Boebert, Madison Cawthorn, and Marjorie Taylor Greene. They were going to bring a firearm onto the floor of the House. That's where she stands. Another example is like Jim. No governance, no nothing, just stunts all day long. Stunts all day long. Here's the deal here, Greg, that we have to understand, and that is

to Lauren's point, Republicans, they have their fire brains, they go out there, they yell, holler, scream, and whatever, but they also drive their base. Democrats like to be all nice and more gentle. No, sometimes you got to call folk out and light that ass up.

You're absolutely right, Roland. And, you know, this is a hard one for me because I like Jamal Bowman. Every time I've seen that brother, he's affable, he's good natured. You know, Byron Donalds, who's a huge clown, literally and figuratively, even when he's clowning Byron Donalds who's a huge clown literally and figuratively even when he's clowning Byron Donalds

he got a smile on his face but let me be very clear about this and he said this on the steps of the Capitol in the wake of this woman doing what she did she put a target on his back man she put a target on his back she's weaponizing God forbid anything

happened to him but this it was right behind my teeth She's weaponizing. You know, God forbid anything happened to him. But this, ooh, it was right behind my teeth. I paused. So let me just say it another way. Mark Killing Creek with her home gym, neighborhood gym look and her WWF couture looking like Ric Flair on the floor of the national legislature with her arms out. God only knows what this beast does, roaming around with whoo in her mind. She put a target on that brother's back.

Do you understand what it means when you say you're threatened by a black person? AOC, you say, Lauren, I mean, she don't weigh a buck dripping wet, but even she came up behind him and said, bro, she's not worth it. She had a smile on her face because what she's signaling is kill him. I mean, all jokes aside, this goes back to even Abe Jones. We got to punch these crackers in the face. Oh, that came out of my mouth. It was right

behind my teeth. Let me pause. We have to take very seriously the fact that they are weaponizing. It isn't just about voting, although it's about that. It isn't just about mobilizing. This is about deputizing every person in the country to say, harm this man. The nicest guy, like you say, bright, but hey, if I take you down, it's because I fear for my, this is the I fear for my life rhetoric. We laughing, but let's take this very seriously. She put a target on Jamal Bowman's back. And my response to that finally is this. We need to put a target on their backs.

Break their damn backs. What the hell is wrong with us? You can't make peace with these people. It was the reason I asked Representative Horsford about what you've learned from history. This is the 1850s. They're five seconds short from starting to cane people on the floor of the damn national legislature. They are ready to kill people. And in fact, they are killing people.

And what are we doing? Trying to make nice. Hell no. Is it going to take somebody getting killed for us to finally say, let's dance? Avis, folks better understand, these Republicans, they are extremely dangerous because they are absolutely in bed

with white supremacists. I got about 60 seconds to go. Well, I just have to say amen to Dr. Carr. I mean, he was right on the money. And, you know, it's interesting, he calls her Ric Flair. I think of her as He-Man, but the situation is the same.

OK, she uses violent rhetoric all the time. And this was a very shrewd way of her to say this big black man threatened me. And we know who she is speaking to. This is a party that appeals not only to white supremacists, but to violent white terrorists. And that's exactly who she was conjuring up with those comments. Absolutely, absolutely. So, all right, folks, got to go to a break. We come back, going to get an update on this case out of Delaware State. Remember when the women's lacrosse team was pulled over by, again, these racist cops?

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This was in April of 2022. Officers asked the players if the players had drugs on the bus before searching the team's belongings. Law enforcement did not find any contraband. The players believed they were racially profiled. University filed a complaint with the DOJ accusing the Liberty County Sheriff's Office of violating the Civil Rights Act. Monday, the DOJ and Liberty County Sheriff's Office agreed to a settlement that includes more

training, community engagement, and reviewing policy and procedures. The attorney representing some of the players says the agreement simply is not enough. Joining us now from Trimble, Connecticut, is attorney Greg Teron. Greg, glad to have you on the show. So, that's it? That's it?

That's it. That's, uh, in the words of one of my clients, it was a slap on the wrist, but I think it was a tap on the wrist. You represent 25 of the 27 folks who were on the bus, correct?

As of today, the other two hopefully coming forward just strategically haven't been able to sign agreements. What do you want out of this? What do they want to see done? Well, I think they want an examination of their civil rights, which includes the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures,

and also the Title VI of the u.s code which is the united the civil rights act of 1964 racially profiling them to search the bus after the officers realized that there were black college lacrosse players on the bus well it's it's abundantly clear. They want justice, Roland. And justice doesn't mean that the United States Justice Department, in its role to investigate crimes, takes the internal investigation of the Liberty County Sheriff's Office, which was drafted by their own attorney. They took that as the facts in the case and decided not to go ahead with an investigation. So the first thing we want, and we should have,

and the people of the United States of America should have, is a thorough investigation by the Justice Department rather than taking the sheriff's internal report for the truth of the facts. Well, I mean, it's no doubt this was racial profiling. I mean, this is, this ain't hard to see. I mean, why else would you pull them over in this bogus, you know, explanation

and then, you know, asking the driver, you know, was he on drugs? Did he have drugs? I mean, come on. Well, the facts are very important. And the sequence of the facts are very important. In the final report of the sheriff's office, which just came out yesterday, there are a number of inconsistencies. It's interesting that they say that within two minutes of pulling over the bus, they had a dog on the site sniffing the cargo hold.

Now, the bus had tinted windows. If the bus was, in fact, way down in front of the deputy that pulled them over, he could not have seen the only window that was not tinted, which would have been the driver's window. And the driver was black. Tim Jones said he never saw the the deputy. The deputy never came up alongside him. So the bus was pulled over for a reason that they put into their report as being traveling in the left lane. When, in fact, my client says, no, he was passing in the left lane. There's a huge difference. So if the stop was illegal from the beginning, everything else consequent to that cannot be legal. Oh, absolutely. Now, when the bus was pulled over and Tim came off the bus and handed over his license, it was then after that that the deputy got on the bus, saw what he had,

and he heard that they were college students, saw who they were, and he instructed the deputy that's in charge of the sniffing dog, whose name is Kona, to go and sniff. I would like to interview Kona, if anybody knows dog language. I want to know what Kona sniffed, because according to the report, the dog picked up something. And so they pulled out luggage and personal items of some of my clients, pulled apart their luggage, actually took apart and unwrapped a gift that was given to one of my clients from her aunt, and it had nothing. In fact, you can see it right there in his hand. You can see that that box was a gift. And what it was was a book safe. All it was was

a simple gift. It didn't have, there was nothing in it. Now, these deputies were supposed to be doing an interdiction, not a personal inspection of people's goods, to find out if they could find a little bit of contraband. That's not the purpose of what they were supposed to be there for. Well, we'll see what is happening. Are you planning on filing a civil lawsuit against the department? Absolutely. And the deputies, all of them.

And the sheriff. In Georgia. All right. Greg, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. You bet. Thank you. I'm going to take a quick break, come back, talk to my panel about this.

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What's up, y'all? It's Rhyan Destiny. And you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. We've had this story and others. There was another story where these troopers along this Georgia Highway had stopped a group of people and they were trying to get out of the building. We've had this story and there was another story where these troopers along this Georgia highway had stopped

a black group. I mean, look, game recognized game, Avis. We know what the deal is. These white cops ain't fooling nobody. It was straight up racial profiling. I hope they sue and I hope they beat their asses in court. Absolutely. It was profiling. It was harassment, actually.

I feel really bad for these young women who were out there representing their university, looking to participate in their sports and to have, to be targeted in this way and let's just say likely humiliated in this way for no other reason than the fact that they were black is very ridiculous. And so I than the fact that they were black is very ridiculous and so i'm so happy that they have legal representation and i'm hoping that they will

sue each and everybody involved which it sounds like it's what they're doing because they deserve to be completely well compensated as a result of that transgression uh lauren yeah I'm wondering why they haven't sued already, what's taken so long. It was April 2022. Why haven't they sued? Why hasn't a civil lawsuit been filed already? This is not, you know, the 1950s or whatever, that we're reliving with these idiot incidents that are clearly racially motivated. There's no way in this world that anybody can ever imagine that some white baseball team would be stopped and frisked in the same exact way. And, you know, you got to love the fact, too, there's probably at least, you know, 30 people on that team at minimum. And so you mean to tell me they searched the entire bus and found absolutely nothing, right? Of course, because there

was nothing. There was nothing to find. But you can't find in the news a comparable incident where, you know, troopers in Georgia, sheriff's office in Georgia is stopping a white bunch of dudes going to play baseball or something like that. No way in the world. Hockey. I mean, it's outrageous. I'm shocked that a suit has not been filed already. I wonder what the delay is. And I think they should make as big of a deal out of it as possible. These are the types of things that we should not be OK with or getting used to or shrugging our shoulders at. This is nonsense.

It is complete nonsense. Greg? Absolutely. Absolutely, Lauren. And, Roland, you know, when the autopsy of this criminal enterprise called United States of America is written, a key piece of it will be the failure of the federal framework. We have to remember that it has only been through federal intervention that anything close to some form of equity

as it relates to rights, human rights, has been affected. These white nationalists have been the same throughout the history of this criminal enterprise. And it has only been when the federal government got involved. With all due respect to the Civil Rights Division and our friend Kristen Clark and everything she did, I read theorandum of Agreement. You know, what the hell? They've got a line in there. They've got a paragraph called Facilitated

Dialogue. These... Boy, I've got to stop myself tonight. These people at the Sheriff's Office have offered to meet with the students, the driver, and coaches involved. And they say in the Memorandum of Agreement, if the office accepted, this meeting would be held in a safe, supportive, and inclusive environment. What the hell in the memorandum of agreement, if the office accepted this meeting, we'll be held in a safe, supportive,

and inclusive environment. Where the hell is that going to be? Nigeria, South Africa, or Brazil? Because it damn sure ain't the United States of America. The federal government has to intervene. This is why these people in these states get away with it. We've got to pay attention. In the next couple of weeks,

you're going to be reporting on these Supreme Court decisions. They have gone to the mattresses, everyone, in the state houses, in the local. And they are daring the federal government to stop them. And right now, the federal government has abandoned any idea that they're going to do anything. And as a result, this thing is getting ready to go so far south that once it goes that way, it's not going to be put back together again. This is not just a small thing. It's representative of a much larger cycle in the history of this country. Indeed. And look, I just need folks to realize that when we talk about sheriff's offices. Sheriffs are elected positions. They are elected positions.

And when we stay home or we don't maximize our numbers, then guess what? We get that. And look, I get it. There are a lot of places that are hardcore areas that are, you know, overly Republican. But it's a lot of places that people keep making a mistake. Like in Tennessee. 75% of those races in Tennessee when people ran, they ran unopposed. It's kind of easy

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Yee! All right, so all week I've been talking about Fox News and the right being pissed off with President Biden's speech to the Howard University graduates on Saturday. And so I didn't see Greg Carr at the graduation, so I gotta get his thoughts on the total right-wing freak

out because Biden chose to discuss white supremacy in his speech as if that was the first time he did when it didn't. Then, of course, you had that fool Rachel Compost Duffy on Fox News who called the Howard University graduates dumb. Now, Jesse Waters in his commentary tried to praise them as being smart and brilliant, but we know he's pretty stupid himself. Bro, why would you pull me in there, brother? You know I was in Philadelphia with our friend and brother Martin Lamont Hill. I wasn't going nowhere near no Joe Biden speech.

And as far as that's concerned, the last—and I don't miss commencement. I'm very serious about the high holy days at HBCUs. I went to one. This is the first time in 23 years at Howard that I did not put on my robe for the recognition ceremonies or for commencement. And a great deal of that has to do with the current administration, quite frankly. You know, I feel very strongly about the neoliberal university. I feel very strongly about celebrity clout-chasing models for higher education. And I feel very strongly about the idea that some HBCUs have now become to aspire to be

DEIUs, in fact, diverse equity inclusion universities. So I wasn't even there to hear Joe Biden. Of course, we're going to expect this kind of thing in terms of attacking. But quite frankly, that makes it easier for folk to do less, because even with the critical race theory stuff and the AP, African-American States course and all that, people can be very heroic when open white supremacists attack everything. The challenge we have is to be the kind of black that ignores that and pushes forward. And I'm very skeptical about where we are in higher education in general. Joe Biden picked up some cheap points on Saturday, and I

certainly wasn't going to sit there and bear witness to it. But I do want to mention, Roland, that, you know, again, happy Haitian Flag Day. We have to raise the name of the legendary Catherine Flan, who when Jean-Jacques Dessalines ripped the white out the middle of the Haitian flag after the French killed Toussaint in the jail, said you'll never mistake the Haitian flag for the French flag again. And the sister Catherine Flan, the legend has it, stitched together the red and the blue, brother, with the little white square in the middle that says,

in unity there is strength. So shout out to that sister who is the mother of the Haitian flag. Damn Bessie Ross, who I would put with Joe Biden, who was probably there in Philadelphia when she was stitching that other flag. But anyway, yeah, I wasn't there. Avis. Avis. Fox News

has been on a tear all week. They're just so upset because he called out white supremacists. Yeah, well they can stay mad as far as I'm concerned. There was nothing that he said that was incorrect. It's factual. In fact, it's not news. I mean, for years, forever, honestly, the biggest terrorist threat in America has been white men.

And it still is that. That is still the case today. But we all know that they have an aversion to facts, right? We all know that. That's why they owe a gazillion dollars and is about to be sued again. So, you know, what could we expect? That's what we can expect from these folks. They continue to lie. They continue to sort of thwart the truth. And when they are confronted with the reality of the violence of the constituency that they seem to be bending over trying to appeal to, instead of acknowledging it, they're going to sit there and have freak out temper tantrums in the way that we just saw that they did.

Lauren. Well, I mean, to Dr. Carr's point, you know, I feel like we're in like a moment here the last five or six years where the federal government is not up to the task of what's going on. Certainly Merrick Garland is not up to the task of what's going on. I mean, we're seeing real violence in real time. We saw Mother Emanuel. We obviously saw Buffalo. We saw the attack on the Capitol. We saw a race riot in Charlottesville. We're seeing members of Congress openly say that they're OK with white supremacists in our military. We got a member of Congress who has a white supremacist on his staff. That would be Paul

Gosar. We see DeSantis fundraising for some guy that killed a black guy on the subway in New York, proudly fundraising, as if it's some badge of honor to fundraise because a black man was killed. We saw that same sort of thing with Eric Garner, with that cop, Dan Pantaleo. They gave him, you know, oh, they put him, they raised his salary and they gave him a nice desk job and all this other stuff because he killed Eric Garner. I mean, they rewarded him. This is all out in the open. And nobody seems to be pushing back hard enough on this, in my view. It's good to see the Black Caucus is planning something, but we've got to get real with the reality that we're living with over the last few years.

I'd say the last six or seven. Donald Trump has basically made it fashionable to be openly racist. Yep. And this party has made violence fashionable. Well, again, they know exactly who their supporters are and that's why they're catering to them. Avis, Lauren, Greg, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Folks, I will see y'all tomorrow right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered

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