#RolandMartinUnfiltered - NEVER FORGET! Criminal-In-Chief Trump Led Jan. 6 Insurrection: Four Years Later

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

We should never forget what happened on January 6, 2021.  Thousands of MAGA fools, at the urging of the orange man, rushed the U.S. Capitol building in hopes of stopping the certification of the 2020 election.  Five people died that day, many more were injured as a result of the violent insurrection. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbase https://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase   This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They actually stormed the U.ed the US Capitol causing massive mayhem more than a thousand people have been prosecuted as a result, this is what it looked like four years ago and America still Allowed Donald Trump back in the Oval Office. It goes to show you exactly what kind of people they are all day across social media, MAGA folks have been making excuses. And they've been telling the fact that the election results were certified today for Donald Trump. But that's a huge difference between how Republicans acted four years ago. And here's a fundamental problem that we have.

This is our biggest problem. The folks who tried to overthrow the election, they are still in power. They now control the House. They now control the Senate. They now control the White House. So what you are dealing with are insurrectionists, white domestic terrorists. And in fact, Donald Trump has actually pledged to to provide clemency, grant pardons. These individuals don't be surprised if he does it. From the U.S. Capitol on January 20th. Because that's the kind of person that he is. And so just as a reminder to you all, we know where we were four years ago.

I was in Atlanta. It was the day after Raphael Warnock won the runoff to become the United States Senator. And I stood there in Atlanta watching television, watching the scene unfold. now remember somebody asking me how did you feel and i said chicken's coming home to roost she said to me um you know what you really shouldn't say that guys turn the audio up because people need to remember what this was like this was what it looked like at the US Capitol four years ago. Go, go! Go, go! Go, go! Go, go! Go, go! Go, go! Go, go!

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Go, go! Go, go! Go, go! Go, go! Go, go! Go, go! Now, MAGA, they've been trying to suggest, now keep it full screen. MAGA's been trying to suggest that, oh, it was just a walk in the park. People were actually taking tours. No, you see them climbing through windows. They were gouging the eyes out of police officers. They were attacking them with flagpoles. These people were creating mayhem. They had their Trump flags, their Confederate flags. And you have Republicans who condemn this, who said that, oh, these actions, we should never see this again.

And what happened? These folks are back in power. That's what you actually see right now. I want to bring in my panel right now to talk about this because it's important for us to not overlook it. You got a lot of people across the country. They are talking about the certification today. I'm not solely focused on certification of the election because we cannot forget what actually took place four years ago and who was behind it. Dr. Julianne Malveaux, economist, president emeritus at Bennett College. She's the author of Surviving and Thriving, 365 Facts in Black Economic History. Also, Dr. Amakango Dabenga, senior professor of lecture school at the International Service, American University. He's the author of Lies About Black

People, How to Combat Racist Stereotypes and Why It Matters. Teresa Lundy, podcast host of The Business Corner out of Philadelphia. Glad to have all three of you here. I want to start with you, Julian. When we talk about this day, when we talk about what happened. You got the folks on the right who are like, oh, you know what? That that thing shouldn't have happened. The folk, they were trying to overthrow the result of the election. They were pissed off. We're pissed off the black people and how they voted in Atlanta, Philadelphia, in Detroit, in Milwaukee. And they did not want to see Joe Biden certified to be president.

And this is a stain on America. We cannot forget it. We can't forget that the people who voted not to certify the election, including the current House Speaker Mike Johnson, now they go, oh, things were fine. Things were fair only because they won. Exactly. You know, I don't know who this congressman is. I wrote his name down, but I lost it. But he was talking about these were grandmothers. It's hilarious. Grandmothers who were taking a tour. And yet maybe one or two people got out of line. There was a mob out there.

I saw Brother Dunn, the brother who he talks about his experience, that three or four of them who talked about their experience, and they're livid that the orange man says he wants to pardon the people who tried to gouge their eyes out, who attacked them with sticks and all kinds of things. But, you know, this is revisionist history and why it's so important to have truth is why it's so important. It's so important for them to deny truth. I mean, contextually, they want to erase that incident and make it all these little old ladies were just walking through and something happened. We all know that's not what happened. And we have to keep telling the story so that nobody, nobody, nobody ever thinks this was just a garden club coming to see the Capitol building.

We all know that's not what it was, but they would like to erase that. So, you know, when I look at those pictures, Roland, and people have been running them on the media all day. And I'm glad they are, because if they don't, history will be rewritten. History belongs to she who holds the pen. And the fact is that they don't want us to hold pens. They don't even want us to have them. They want to just make it as if this was Biden's Justice Department going awry and indicting what, 1600 people? 1600 people? That is not called a walk in the park. That is called mob violence. And I'm glad

you use the term white extremists, white terrorist extremists, who basically, and underline the white, who basically do not want fairness, do not want democracy. But Kamala Harris, as always, she came through. She's a picture of what democracy is about. She was graceful. She didn't have any side comments. She ran the process, and that's what you're supposed to do, run the process. And it was a smooth, constitutionally dictated process that four years ago, the Trumpies and their friends refused to allow to happen. Oma Congo, it's important for us to call these people for who they are.

They are white domestic terrorists. They are the people who did not want this to move forward. Donald Trump became the first occupant of the Oval Office to ever try to overthrow an election. We cannot forget that. I don't care what happened November 2024. They will go out,

they will remember for this, and we must call them out for who they are every single time. Look, the way you led this out with Insurrection Day and calling a thing a thing, if we don't do that,

then we are going to deserve what we get. The fact of the matter is not only do we have to make sure we don't let that, then we are going to deserve what we get. The fact of the matter is not only do we have to make sure we don't let this day be forgotten, we have to continue to bring it up because just this past weekend, Trump is at Mar-a-Lago showing a John Eastman film and he's a sore winner. He has to do everything possible to change the narrative about what happened that day and all of his denials of the election. They are not going to stop, right? When you look at Bush v. Gore, the Bush had a rough thing. No, they have to make

sure they change the history books, they change the news networks, they change everything to make it look like it was, as he said, a day of love. This was the first time a Confederate flag flew in the Capitol. This was the first time that the United States did not have a peaceful transfer of power. We have people, Brian Sicknick, a Capitol Police officer, who was a Trump supporter, who died, you know, because of injuries. And then officers who killed themselves later. Look at what happened with Lieutenant Byrd, who shot Ashley Babbitt and how his entire life has been destroyed. These people in every way, shape and form are trying to make sure that what happened is not told. And they got their own networks to do it, the Foxes, the OANNs.

And that's why we have to be here with the Black Star Network, because this was an attack and assault on our entire democracy. And if people paid attention to what you wrote about in your book, White Fear, then people could have seen these signs coming. But we have to make sure that what we're doing is always correcting the record, because this is a terrible day in american history and at the end of the day we have classless individuals who would have done this again have they lost and we have to make sure that we're telling the proper story but teresa

this is why i did not want to lead with today's certification because it's real easy to try to normalize and say, well, you know, you know, you know, here's what happened today. No, no, no, no, no. We cannot forget what these people did. And there are people like Senator Ron Johnson who was trying to deliver fake electors to then Vice President Mike Pence. It was people like Utah Senator Mike Lee. It was Josh Hawley of Missouri. It was Chuck Grassley of Iowa. It was Ted Cruz of Texas. These despicable individuals, they were being helped.

The Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Jim Jordans, the list goes on, the Scott Perry of Pennsylvania. It goes on and on and on. And the problem is these people are still there. The people who tried to overthrow the election result are now the ones who are in charge. That cannot be overlooked. That can't be overlooked, nor are the lives that were lost during the election. And I think, you know, when you started it off, it was definitely a clear history of let's never forget, because we all know that they are now trying. Those who were, I guess, prosecuted for the take. The insurrection that took place is now trying to get off. So now that that's a

whole nother thing. And I think, you know, that's just very interesting as we, you know, I think Democrats, you know, and thank God for Vice President Kamala Harris with such grace and dignity and leadership. You know, I think, you know, as I was looking at some of the comments on X and Facebook groups, you know, even Magna folks like that, not all of them, but a few were definitely, you know, a little bit alarmed and dismayed about what was done to her. Because, again, if there was a male, a white male in that position, that would not have happened. They would have shook hands and probably played golf afterwards. But again, actually, actually, we're going to discuss that later. But I want to say I want to talk. I want to talk about, again, this being the fourth anniversary of the insurrection. And we just simply can't just just dismiss this reality.

Here's a perfect example. This was a this was a tweet that conservative commentator Eric Erickson. He posted this four years ago today. Watch this. This is what he said. Shoot the protesters. Weigh the rules. Impeach. Weigh the rules. Convict. Weigh the rules. Deny the ability to run for election again. And you know what happened? Erickson supported Donald Trump and these same

Republicans in November. Mitch McConnell stood on the floor and decried what took place. He and Kevin McCarthy put it at the feet of Donald Trump. But none of that matter, Teresa. And it goes

to show you the kind of people they are. They have no morals, no values, no principles, no ethics at all. No, you're absolutely right. And again, history will always repeat itself. I think Republicans are the main cause and effect when they always try to say, you know, let's not think about the history. Let's not think about slavery. Let's let's not think about the 1619 project. Let's talk about the future. But, you know, the future is literally four years ago, right? I think what would make America great again was literally they talked about for

the first four years was Donald Trump's position in office and how yet people forgot, so many forgot when he was in office, how detriment it was to everyday working families, even though they tried to say that they were a party of working families. So it was very interesting. I think Democrats, you know, definitely has seen a new strategy, right? But I think if we still keep it with integrity, if we still walk in leadership, if we still keep having conversations and spending funding where it should be, not just during election season or during the last 80 days or 100 days, but if we do it year round,

I think when we start having the remember when conversations about the GOP and what Donald Trump and the MAGNA team has done to American people and American families, I think the conversations will be different in every city, in every electoral district. See, I don't know. I mean, Julian, I think the problem is that Democrats want to play a game, a political reality that no longer exists. And again, and Republicans tried the same game. I mean, it was Mitch McConnell.

They could have actually convicted Donald Trump four years ago. Had they convicted Donald Trump, he would not have been able to run again. And all of these court cases could have moved forward. But they assumed that the insurrection was so bad that, oh, his career is over. The American people won't tolerate this again. Well, they actually did. Here's Mitch McConnell again four years ago. I want everybody to listen.

These are his words on the floor of the United States Senate. President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office as an ordinary citizen. Unless the statute of limitations is run, still liable for everything he did while he was in office. Didn't get away with anything yet. We have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation. And former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one.

Yeah, that was Mitch McConnell. But again, what did they do, Julian? They were like, oh, it's over. And what he kept saying, it, oh, it's over. And what kept saying it's over, it's over. No, it goes to show you if the American people are exactly who they are. And they they accepted this thug. And I and let me be real clear for the next four years, he is going to be referred to on this show as the convicted criminal in chief or the insurrectionist in chief, because he has earned those titles. He absolutely has. I mean, when you look at these men who are

guarding our Capitol, who were, these were not people making multi-millions. These are folks who are making civil service money. They've lost lost their jobs some of them have lost limbs or there's a suicide there are a couple of other deaths that seem to be stress related and he just sort of walks away walks had you know there's the walk in the park people want to talk about the insurrectionists and the walk of the park trump has had a walk in the park but here's the deal This is about predatory capitalism and the consolidation of oligarchies. In other words, you see all these Fortune 500s, Elon Musk, the Just Bezos, the cartoon that the Post refused to run is a great cartoon of all these oligarchs with their money bags going to to pay homage to the orange man. Or someone called him the mango mafioso. Someone shared that one with me. I thought that was pretty good, actually, because I got in trouble for calling him the

orange man somewhere. Whatever. But in any case, the fact is that they're looking at ways that he's going to consolidate power. They're looking at ways that he's going to increase profits for predatory capitalists. This terror thing is going to cripple the middle class. Now they say they're going to do it gradually and then they say they're not. They don't know what they're doing, but they're doing it. And the fact is that we have very few tools to stop them. We have some, but we don't have a lot. And the reason that we don't have a lot is because Democrats are too nice, in my opinion. Maybe it's not too nice. Maybe it's naive. I mean, I used to back in the day when I first got involved in politics back in the 70s, I remember watching them getting on the floor and say, oh, my esteemed colleague. And I'm thinking what I would want to say is you dirty, rotten or you felon or something like that. But there's, oh, my esteemed

colleagues over there. And it puts this veneer of niceness on it. But there is nothing nice. There's literally nothing nice about what happened on January 6th, 2021. Nothing nice about it at all. They tried to upend democracy. And I don't understand. No, I do understand. I don't understand why people voted for the felon anyway. But Jim Carville was on CNN Sunday morning and he said, oh, it was really about the economy. No, it was about race. Let's be real clear. It was about race. The economy is better. I mean, it's not perfect, but it never will be. The economy is better. It was about race. And so here we are with these violent criminals that he's about to pardon. He said he's going to pardon some of them. And I hope that there's a backlash from his people,

but you played Ms. McConnell. Thank you for doing that. Anybody who was on that floor was traumatized, but some people got over their trauma real quick when they decided where their bread was buttered. You know, I'm a Congo. When we look at that day, when you look at the heroic actions of a Eugene Goodman and when you listen to these cowardly and yes, I'm calling them cowards because that's who they are. You look at these cowardly Republicans who all of a sudden, oh, they've forgotten all of that. But their asses were saved. They were saved by these cops. They were saved by these officers who put it online. Again, I remember there was a reporter who was shooting the video when Eugene Goodman stopped these people

from turning down that hallway. They were that close, that close to breaching the United States Senate. And here's a crazy thing. In 2023, here's a crazy thing. I mean, everybody listen to me to understand what I'm saying. In 2023, here's the crazy thing. I need everybody listening to me to understand what I'm saying. In 2023, Congress passed a bill honoring the Capitol police officers, honoring them, and ordering a plaque to be placed in the Capitol. Republicans on the Congo have yet to allow it to be installed. And in fact, today, today, today,

Speaker Mike Johnson was asked about that and he simply turned and walked away. These Republicans are shameful cowards. They're despicable. They don't support law enforcement. They only care about cops. When it involves black people, they are protecting these fascists, these white domestic terrorists. And I don't think anybody ran faster than Josh Hawley that day. I mean, the world saw this. And really, when it comes down to it, going to your last point about their lack of respect for the Capitol Police officers, they don't respect law enforcement at all.

They talk about where to defund the police people. How many times have they talked about defunding the FBI the CIA the you know ATF all these organizations They don't care like you said until it suits them and when it comes down to it the fact that they cannot honor These Capitol Police officers and the trauma that they endured and the trauma they continue to endure and now they're gonna possibly you can be Rest assured rolling that some of these guys who Trump are gonna pardon. I'm gonna come back to the Capitol They're not gonna be banned to be banned in that place and wait wait wait wait wait wait wait one of these one of these thugs literally petitioned the judge to allow him to attend the inauguration because he was invited there by several republican members of Congress they invited one of these folks

to attend the inauguration and the judge is like uh-huh that I have that's what and I can guarantee those who may who may be out or may have avoided jail time did the whole convict choir some of that gonna play as well at this inauguration like this is a criminal enterprise and they're gonna continue to do criminal things and the fact of the matter is it really bothers me that whatever laws in place, the speech and debate clause or whatever, that doesn't allow like House members or senators to be like prosecuted because some of these guys were in on this. There was a guy who gave the tour the day before, like they were aiding and abetting these individuals and they are not going to suffer any consequences. But we have to make sure that we have a long term memory. We can't be forgetting these things. You're talking about this now. You're going to be talking about this next week.

You're not going to let this be forgotten. But most people are going to be on to Jimmy Carter's funeral tomorrow. They're going to be on to the inauguration the next day. They're going to be on to whatever's coming in February. Excuse me. We got the midterms coming up and we got to keep these things in mind. And you know who's also not going to forget? Trump is not going to forget. And he's going to do his best to make sure people don't forget because he is obsessed with getting a proper narrative that's going to suit his ego. But if we continue to tell this story, we can help change the tide in 2026 when the midterms come up. And that's why I'm so happy with what you're doing tonight, Roland, because you're hitting it in a way that no other network

that I've watched today has been doing. Igor Bobik with Huffington Post actually was in the gallery that day. And there was an almost three-minute video that he posted. And this was from, the video was posted

January 15, 2021. So it was nine days later. And it makes real clear the danger that Eugene Goodman was facing and the danger that was coming the way. And for all these Republicans

who get all these MAGA people, all these assholes who keep talking about, oh, it was a calm day that that absolute white supremacist Tucker Carlson, all the people on Fox News who keep covering for these people. No, no, no. Let's remember exactly, exactly what it looked like in this video right here folks watch this Thank you. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go.

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These are the people don't Trump and sister Patriots. Y'all, I just watched the Luther Vandross documentary and my mind is blown. Here are 10 songs you might have heard Brown vocals on, but you have to listen closely. Hello? Teresa, go ahead. Okay, great. Sorry. Yeah, I mean, these folks are patriots. I'm not sure what the American people are, but they are certainly not patriots. I think rediscovering with that definition of patriotism and upholding American values is something, you know, that we really just need to define again and again. But what we saw there was another critical action where we have taxpaying citizens going against, you know, a law enforcement, the same law enforcement that was sworn to protect and serve and the same ones that the Magna upholds to the fullest extent of the law, but yet is comfortable with putting, you know, an officer like Eugene in a position without and there's no consequence.

So there has to be some sort of consequence as it relates to, you know, what what is happening, you know, not only four years ago, but, you know, what will be happening in the future as it relates to pardons. I just want people to understand. I just want people to understand what is going on here. I want people to understand that that the people who were in support of this, the people who were backing this, these people are still in power. They're gonna be in charge of committees. They are gonna be going after, they're gonna be going after the January 6th committee members.

Don't be shocked at all if they try to go after Congressman Bennie Thompson, former Congresswoman Liz Cheney. That's what they are going to do. And so, you know, just understand's what they are going to do. And so, you know, just just understand exactly what what is actually going to happen. Hi, I'm Isaac Hayes, the third founder and CEO of Fanbase. Fanbase is a free to download, free to use next generation social media platform that allows anyone to have followers and subscribers on the same page. Fanbase was built through investment

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