#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Oct. Jobs Report, Shomari Figures, ProPublica Exposes Ad Targeting Election Officials, VP Wis. Rally

Episode Date: November 2, 2024

11.1.2024 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Oct. Jobs Report, Shomari Figures, ProPublica Exposes Ad Targeting Election Officials, VP Wis. Rally LIVE  in Mobile, Alabama, at the 2nd Annual Port City Classic B...usiness Expo, where I participated in two panels.  Here's what's coming Up on Roland Martin Unfiltered streaming live on the Black Star Network. October's job report was well below expectations.  The overall black unemployment rate remained the same while the rate for black men increased but dropped for black women. We'll talk to economist Morgan Harper about the numbers. Alabama's 2nd Congressional District race winner could impact who controls the House. Democratic candidate Shomari Figures will join me to discuss his plans if he wins. ProPublica exposed an organization that placed ads targeting election officials, telling them they don't have to certify the results. We'll talk to one of the reporters.  Vice President Kamala Harris is speaking in the second hour.  We'll show you her rally in Little Chute,  Wisconsin, live.  A Pennsylvania volunteer fire department has some explaining to do for allowing an entry in their Halloween parade depicting Trump leading a handcuffed Vice President Harris in chains.  A White South Carolina man gets physical with some black female election workers when he was asked to remove his Trump hate before voting.  We'll show you the video. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. We'll be right back. now. We have to keep this going. The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Black Star Network and Black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't be Black-owned media and be scared. It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs home. You dig? Thank you. so Folks, today is Friday, November 1st, 2024. Coming up on Roland Barth Unputter, streaming live with the Black Star Network.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I'm here in Mobile, Alabama, where they're having the second annual Port City Classic. I just finished moderating a couple of panels. And so coming up next, we'll be chatting with Samari Figures, who is running for Congress in a new opportunity district created here in Alabama. We'll hear from him also on today's show. We'll talk about the election four days away. Both candidates are traversing the country, getting the vote out. Vice President Kamala Harris will be live in Milwaukee for a massive concert featuring
Starting point is 00:03:02 Glorilla, the Osley Brothers, Cardi B, and others as well. Of course, we'll be traveling to Michigan this weekend broadcasting the show. The Harris campaign dropped several new ads targeting the Trump campaign, and so we'll be talking about that. Lots to break down, folks. It is time to bring the funk on Rolling Martin Unfiltered. The Black Star Network, let's rolling. Yeah, yeah. It's Uncle Roro, yo.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah, yeah. It's rolling Martin. Yeah, yeah. Rolling with rolling now. Yeah, yeah. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best. You know he's rolling, Martel. Martel. Martel. Martin! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Martin! Hey, folks, Roland Martin here. We are in Mobile, Alabama, been traveling the country, of course, as we are four days away from the election.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And so, so much attention is focused on the national election, of course. Vice President Kamala Harris against Donald Trump to be the 47th president of the United States here in Alabama. There is a critical race taking place in the Opportunity District here. And the person joining me, Shamari Figures, is running in that particular race. And so, Shamari, glad to see you again. So let's talk about how has this race been going so far? Good to be here, man. It's been going well.
Starting point is 00:09:27 It's been going well. The reception on the ground has been well. The ability to raise money has been well. The National Party is really leaning in here because they understand the opportunity that we have here. We just had Leader Jeffries soon to be, hopefully, Speaker of the House. Hakeem Jeffries was campaigning with us yesterday at Montgomery. Jasmine Crockett was down here earlier this week. Eric Holder was here or something with us.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So people understand the importance of it, and we feel good about where we are in terms of how we're positioned to finish and leave it all out on the field, man. Let's talk about this opportunity district. For people who don't know, it was created because of lawsuits of civil rights organizations battling this state, Republican legislature. There was seven congressional districts, six Republican, one Democrat, 27% black in this state,
Starting point is 00:10:15 and black folks were not getting proper representation. That's right. I mean, almost a third of the state's population is black, and we only had one district where a black candidate could legitimately be elected. And so there was a lawsuit that was brought after the last census. They packed even more black people into that one district, which is currently represented by Congresswoman Terry Sewell, so as to limit the impact that black voters in the state could have across multiple congressional districts. A lawsuit was filed and even this current iteration of the Supreme Court found,
Starting point is 00:10:42 at least preliminarily, because the case is still going on, that there was a likely violation of the Voting Rights Act. And so they asked the state of Alabama to redraw its districts. To no one's surprise, the state of Alabama refused to comply. So the federal courts redrew the district. And now we have a true opportunity district. It's not a guarantee. It's not a slam dunk. It's a district now that's about 48 percent black, 46 percent white. It's a district that Joe Biden would have carried in 2020, but it's also a district that our current Republican governor would have carried in 2022. So we still got to get out here and do the work. And look, there were two states that were going through this battle, Alabama and Louisiana. And you had an obstinate Republican legislature that, frankly, was ignoring the will of the courts. And I mean, it was very,
Starting point is 00:11:26 very reminiscent of Jim Crow days in terms of defying federal courts. Yeah. I mean, it was shocking. And I think at the end of the day, I mean, I think one of the more important outcomes of this litigation to this point is not so much the district, although that is very important, but the federal courts, you know, making sure that a state was not allowed to just essentially, you know, put up its middle finger to the Supreme Court of the United States and other federal judges and say, we're going to do what we want to do, you know, at the disadvantage to minorities in this country. And so it was a great decision. Like I said, it's still preliminary at this point, but it was a great decision, I think,
Starting point is 00:12:02 in terms of preserving not only the Voting Rights Act, but preserving the authority of the court to actually be the determining voice in terms of when people's rights are being violated. And so, you know, our hope is that we get out and vote and we take advantage of this opportunity and then move this momentum on to state elections so we can have more of a voice when it comes time to redraw district lines in a few years we were talking earlier and one of the huge issues uh that the district faces deals with uh health care and this is the case in a lot of places where it's ruled we've seen this in north carolina in georgia in tennessee i mean this state got a lot of money for the federal government uh from, and the governor chose to use that money not on health care, but chose to use it on prisons. Yeah, yeah, and I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:50 look, health care issues here in the state of Alabama, you know, similar to some other, you know, southern states primarily, like it's beyond just health insurance that we're talking about. We're talking literal health care access. Since we've been in this race, we've had four hospitals closed across this district. We have several others that are hemorrhaging and having to rob Peter to pay Paul every single quarter to pull money from nontraditional sources, i.e. the city council or county commission to keep their hospitals open.
Starting point is 00:13:17 The largest hospital in Montgomery, Alabama, is on the verge of collapse. And so we have an obligation to make sure that we're doing that because it's more than just a health care issue. It's an economic issue. Like when you don't have hospitals, you can't recruit businesses. You can't recruit families who want to live there and set up shop there. You can't recruit retirees that want to live out their lives in those communities.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And so we have an obligation to make sure that we're standing up for our health care systems. And what is the response of lawmakers in this state? I mean, look, if you don't have hospitals, again, folks have to travel a lot further to get care. And that means that the likelihood of folks dying is real. Yeah, unfortunately the response of state lawmakers has not been one that reflects a genuine care or passion
Starting point is 00:14:05 about the lives of people throughout this state, because like in a few respects, most notably Alabama. Look, here in Alabama we have the third lowest life expectancy in the United States, behind Mississippi and West Virginia, who only have us beat by, you know, like a few weeks, right, or months at best. So statistically speaking, we live the shortest lives in America right here in the state of Alabama. We need health care access the most, yet our state has refused for the past nearly 15 years to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act. So that's something that
Starting point is 00:14:35 we have to do. And in Congress, that's something that I'm going to prioritize, making sure we can, again, incentivize, offer the federal reimbursement incentive to the state of Alabama to go ahead and do what's right and expand Medicaid. But our state legislature has to get this act together. And in the event that they don't, then we're going to have to look at ways to drive resources directly to some of these counties to, at a minimum, try to provide some of the preventative health care services. Beyond health care, what also are the other top priorities for the district? Economic development is huge, especially in the rural communities, but also here in Mobile and in Montgomery as well. People want to know that there are going to be good paying jobs or good benefits available across this district. And so, you know, to that end,
Starting point is 00:15:16 we have several infrastructure projects that are going on right here in Mobile. Just outside this door, there's going to be a huge new bridge that's going to be built. There was a down payment on that by the federal government in the form of a federal grant that Mobile just received a couple months ago, and it was the largest federal grant that the state of Alabama has ever received. And so driving that, that's going to create jobs, it's going to create opportunities, but we have to make sure that we can continue to bring those sorts of opportunities here and make sure that that money that's being spent is being used to create those opportunities and also inclusive and mindful that minority owned businesses need to be there and able to take advantage of this major construction
Starting point is 00:15:53 project coming this way and economic development across this district as a whole. I mean, look, you know that unless a company is relocating to your area because of a natural resource in your backyard, then the most important thing that they need, the most important asset is a highly trained workforce. And we have a long way to go here in the state of Alabama to make sure that we're developing the type of workforces across a variety of communities to sustain our ability to be able to recruit or create the ability to be able to recruit those companies. Right now, our children here in the state of Alabama are at the sixth worst literacy rate in the United States of America. And so we have to improve on that.
Starting point is 00:16:25 We have to make those investments in education and public education primarily because it is our largest workforce development program that we have, whether people like it or not. We talk about the area that you represent. You mentioned earlier, County's not having hospitals. You said what Tuskegee University is. No hospital there. When you talk about the black belt in this state, again, crucial role in the history of voting rights and civil rights, but in many ways it's been forgotten. Yeah, it has.
Starting point is 00:16:58 It has. And something that I've said since I got in this race is that America owes this district in a unique way. It owes Montgomery specifically and Tuskegee specifically, given the sacrifices that those cities, those institutions located there have made, the role that they played in making America be true to, as Dr. King said, what it said on paper. They played a unique role in that, a significant role in the civil rights movement. It was born out of this district. Tuskegee Airmen are out of this district.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Rosa Parks, John Lewis's hometown, is out of this district. So this is a very historical district, a very historical place, and one that has not, unfortunately, been the focal point of a lot of representation. The district is currently, most of this district did not come from Terry Sewell's district. Most of this newly drawn district came out of a Republican district that is currently represented by one of the most fiscally conservative people, out of a Republican district that is currently represented by one of the most fiscally conservative people, Republican or Democrat, in the House. And so they truly have not had the benefit of somebody that's focused on trying to drive resources
Starting point is 00:17:56 and investments from the federal government into their communities. And so we've got an opportunity to change that, and I'm looking forward to being able to do just that. All right. Well, certainly good luck. Four days left. Thank you, left. You don't have early voting in this state so it's all about getting the turnout on election day on Tuesday. Yeah absolutely man. We've seen an uptick in absentee ballots which is good. We're seeing a lot of people say that they're voting absentee. That's the only form of early vote that we do have here in the state and it's still technically not early vote because you have to have an excuse to do it here. But nevertheless, people are used to having to get up and get out on election day. So we're looking forward to it, man.
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Starting point is 00:25:14 and ooh, Republicans are rejoicing because only 12,000 jobs were added in the economy last month. That is the lowest number in nearly four years. Now, the unemployment rate held steady at 4.1 percent, the same as September. The overall black unemployment rate remained unchanged at 5.7 percent. The unemployment rate for black men increased from 5.1 percent to 5.7 percent. For black women, the unemployment rate dropped to 4.9%. Morgan Harper, an economist with the American Economic Liberties Project, joined us right now. And Morgan, when we look at the hurricanes and the strikes, that could very well be the reason we see these numbers. But
Starting point is 00:25:58 it's really interesting, boy, Republicans, they've been waiting for this moment. Oh, the economy sucks. The economy is terrible. It's a lie. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the Boeing strike that implicates a couple tens of thousands of workers is directly related to the decrease in manufacturing jobs. And then also, just like you said, Roland, with the hurricanes that occurred, I mean, those all came about right when employers would have been reporting on their payrolls and the data that feeds into the jobs report. So it was always expected that this jobs report was going to be low.
Starting point is 00:26:35 It does seem like the level of impact that the natural disasters had on the reported data is more than expected. But yeah, how do we know that the economy continues to be very strong? Well, how did the markets react to this data? Kind of not at all. The stock market continued to open and close at a very high rate. And even the Wall Street Journal, which usually is on the side of finding any reason to critique anything coming out of this administration, pretty much said that this jobs data is kind of an anomaly and needs to be taken in its full context.
Starting point is 00:27:12 You know, I was, Dave Ramsey, of course, the personal finance guru, if you will, he's a Donald Trump supporter. He sent out this tweet, and I couldn't help but to slam him because I thought it was stupid and idiotic. Again, he was crowing about the jobs report. Let me see. Let me show you what he said. He goes, wow, the economy is really struggling. Worst job numbers this month in years. Vote. And I'm going, okay, yeah, you're full of crap. And then Hugh Hewitt, who is the conservative radio talk show host, he tried the exact same thing, tried to jump on these numbers.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And, oh, my goodness, just how bad the argument is. Let me find this tweet, because I just had to sit here and say. He goes, the closing argument for former President Trump, today's jobs report, illustration from the Washington Post. Again, it's just silly. Steve Cortez, you know, supporting Trump, breaking just 12,000 new jobs were added this month. Economists expected 112,000 new jobs. This is what they do. They want to totally ignore what has taken place over the last four years as if somehow the economy has been bad. Yeah, and it's really unfortunate. And of course, this is why people get confused. And so we really do have to set the record straight. Is it the case that 12,000 jobs were created over the last month. That's what the data is saying. But as we know, and we talk about regularly on this, one, every month's data needs to be taken with a grain of salt because adjustments
Starting point is 00:28:50 are always made. And here this past month, we have very clear reasons why it would be disproportionately lower, like we just discussed, because of the strikes and the natural disasters. The reality is over 2 million jobs have been created throughout the entire year, and that year timeframe is enough time to actually assess in a more accurate way what's the strength of the economy. What else is going on? You pointed to the data that the unemployment rate continues to be at historic lows across all demographics, which is good. We are seeing a little bit of wage growth, or it's slowed down from what it was, but that's actually, in some ways, that's what feeds into whether or not the inflation rate is going to continue to increase in some ways. And so that's
Starting point is 00:29:36 not entirely bad. It's still increasing, but just not as quickly as it was. And all of this taken together, like I said, the markets are suggesting that the economy is still in a very similar place that it was yesterday. So this data probably, you know, wasn't that impactful again because people who follow these things kind of know that this was an anomaly. And, you know, looking ahead, we are likely to see another interest rate cut, not as much as we saw, you know, a month or so ago. And that's a good thing. If you own a small business, for example, if you need to borrow money, that likely can be beneficial to you to have the interest rates go down. Or if you already do owe money to someone and you don't want to have to pay as much, this is a good thing as well. And the federal government's going to continue to
Starting point is 00:30:19 try to find the equilibrium to make sure that, yes, we're seeing wage growth, we're seeing employment increase, but it's not fueling the higher prices that we were seeing, you know, higher rates of inflation a few years ago. The inflation rate is back to where it's supposed to be normally, about 2%, a little bit over. And so we really need to make sure that people have accurate information here. And that 12,000 number is just, it's not an accurate portrait of what's been happening. And we have to make sure we correct that record so again i want people to understand what you're saying is where where the inflation rate is right now is where our inflation rate normally is and so uh if people keep yelling oh it's high inflation that's no longer the case. The rate of inflation is back to where it normally
Starting point is 00:31:07 is, a little over 2%. Now, I do not want to underestimate or minimize at all the price increases that all of us have experienced over the past few years. Prices are higher than what they were a few years ago. But, you know, it's important to keep in mind some of those prices were starting to increase in 2020. OK. Before this current administration was elected is just, you know, again, these are just the facts. And a lot of the price increases came from the. And and and and Morgan price increases are determined by companies, not the government. The White House, the House, the Senate has no control over price increases. Those are companies making that decision to jack
Starting point is 00:31:55 up prices. Yes, we definitely now have data that shows that there was price gouging that's been going on, I mean, at least over the past few years when we've had more enforcers and folks within this administration that have been tracking it. And then what's another piece of evidence there? I mean, you know, Kroger-Albertson, that's a deal, that's a transaction that we've talked about before during the trial to determine whether or not that merger is going to be allowed. And around the time that the trial was happening, they had executives from the company saying, let us merge and we're going to lower all of our prices. We're going to save consumers a billion dollars. It's like, oh, well, if you could be doing that at any time, why don't you just do that? Right. Because you know that people are already struggling. So, yes, corporations have
Starting point is 00:32:38 discretion over how much they want prices to be, especially corporations that are dominating the market and don't have to deal with any competition. And that's what, unfortunately, we see across a lot of different market areas in the economy. Why is Visa, for example, able to charge high fees that then end up hitting small business owners when they want to process any of the transactions we do? Why? Because they can, because they're not facing any competition. So, you know, that's an ongoing issue that we're going to have to address as a country. We've seen some progress in this administration to try to tackle some of that price gouging. We've seen also, you know, from Vice President Harris in her economic plan
Starting point is 00:33:15 that one of her goals is to take on price gouging specifically in the grocery market. And that is going to take some time to really rein in. But rest assured, there are laws existing on the books that ban that type of behavior. And we need to make sure that we have enforcers in place that are going to use those laws to their maximum impact. And legislators in Congress, like you were just talking to your prior guest, who looks like maybe he's going to get there, to be one of those that's going to be pushing for legislation that will ban these types of practices from corporations that drive up prices ultimately that we end up paying. Questions from my panel. Let's go first to Derek Jackson, who's a Georgia state representative. Derek, what's your question for Morgan? And if she could really share the difference between inflation and corporate greed, because a lot of what Kamala Harris' policies are, as you've already articulated,
Starting point is 00:34:17 that's one part. And then the second part, why there's no breakthrough for her? I mean, I don't drive everything around polls, but it still says that Trump is leading when it comes to the economy, when the world economists are backing her plan, the GDP growth of 2.8 percent, the job creation that you already mentioned. Why there's no breakthrough? Why it's not resonating when it comes to that she's better of the two to handle the economy? Yeah, well, you know, your first question, the difference between inflation, corporate greed, I think, you know, the main point that we're getting at is prices have increased.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And some of those, some of the price increases can be attributed to different factors. So, for example, like when we had the disruption with supply change during the pandemic, that just made it harder for companies to get goods. And then also we saw that then that forced them to raise prices because they were paying more for their supplies to be able to provide whatever their goods and services were. So that's something that could drive up prices. But then you have other factors that drive up prices. If there's also similarly a labor shortage and employers have to increase the prices that they're charging us because they're also paying their workers more, then that's something that can contribute to inflation. That's why I was saying, you know, sometimes a lot of the federal monetary policymakers will be looking at just how quickly wages are increasing to get a sense of how that might be impacting the inflation rate. But then, you know, what Roland
Starting point is 00:35:49 and I are discussing is there is now data showing that, okay, those are all, you know, it's kind of exogenous factors that are kind of hard to control. You don't know when there's going to be a pandemic that happens every hundred years that it just appears and you have to respond to that. That's one thing, but what we have data showing is that beyond the rate of inflation and how much it was increasing, we saw corporations during the pandemic and beyond continue to keep their prices higher than the rate of inflation,
Starting point is 00:36:20 suggesting that they were really just taking advantage of the situation to try to make more money off of us. That's when it's getting into the gouging territory beyond just a corporation or a business that's having to manage increased costs on their end and pass those along to the consumer to just break even. They're not breaking even. In a lot of cases, they're making record profit. And the point I was adding on as well is when you're in a market that doesn't have a lot of competition, competition helps to just reinforce that prices are going to stay at more of an equilibrium place because you have multiple options. We have multiple options as a consumer where we want to shop. But if there's only one game in town, well, then the business that owns that game, they're going to be able to make their prices as high as they can and know that we just have to kind of take it as consumers. And so that
Starting point is 00:37:08 creates the perfect conditions to then gouge us as consumers and make even more money. In terms of why this isn't breaking through, you know, it's a question that I'm sure a lot of folks, you know, both within the administration, perhaps on the campaign, are asking themselves. I'm not involved in either of those things. But, you know, I think we have to be realistic, too. Taking first the campaign, you know, it's only been a couple of months that Vice President Harris herself has been the spokesperson for these issues. It's hard, really, under any length of time in this kind of environment to get clear messages across to people, I would say, you know, there's just such dispersed messaging. And like we were talking about,
Starting point is 00:37:50 you have a lot of people that are not honest brokers here. Like we had our discussion about the 12,000 job report data. That's not a complicated thing to understand why that's an anomaly, but we have people that intentionally try to mislead the public and that's not helping anybody get a better sense of what's really going on here. And then the other thing is, you know, a lot of these policies are actually popular. So when you say, you know, they're not breaking through, I think we have some of the coverage that the media does, shows, and some of these articles will say, well, people aren't associating some of these policies and the positive economy with President Biden or Vice President Harris. But when you ask people just without the political layer, how are they
Starting point is 00:38:31 feeling about their economic situation, a lot of those responses are coming back and being sort of positive. Now, we do have data in the polling that's showing that people can continue to be very concerned about high prices, the cost of living. But I think that's showing that people can continue to be very concerned about high prices, the cost of living. But I think that's also something we have to continue to break down a little bit more. You know, for example, I'll speak for myself and, you know, curious of the panel's thoughts, too. But one of the primary drivers of, you know, uncertainty or stress about your economic situation is the unknown as well. Health care costs, for example. You know, If we get sick, if you have a family member that's sick, you don't know how much that could add up to. Even if you have insurance, your premiums are going up. And so
Starting point is 00:39:13 it's not so easy always to tell what exactly might be driving someone's concern when they say they are concerned about the economy. But we do also have to distinguish the political from the substance in trying to understand where people are coming from. Michael Imhotep hosts African History Network show. Hey, Morgan, thanks for coming back on. Could you put a couple of things in perspective? I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future
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Starting point is 00:40:59 This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote
Starting point is 00:41:26 Marine Corvette MMA Fighter Liz Caramouch What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Number one, when we look at the October jobs report, New York Times was reporting that because of Hurricane Helene and Milton, there were 460,000 people basically filing for unemployment, not showing up to work.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So that impacts the job numbers. But also we see that in the health care industry, 52,000 jobs were added for the month of October, as well as government jobs, 40,000 were added. So I also find something interesting. You have Republicans spreading conspiracy theories that only $750 in FEMA aid was available for hurricane victims, right? But at the same time, they're also distorting what really impacted these numbers. Can you put that in perspective for us, please? In terms of why they might be doing that or what? No, no, no, no. The 460,000 not showing up to work being impacted. How does that impact these numbers? One. And then also talk about the fact that I bet you Republicans are not talking about the 52,000 health care jobs
Starting point is 00:43:03 created in October, as well as the 40,000 jobs created by the government. So let's just focus on 12,000 only. Let's just say net 12,000 jobs created, but not deal with these other factors. Yeah. I mean, if people aren't showing up to work, well, then there's not payrolls to report to the government. And so I do think there's a combination of, you know, people's jobs were disrupted by the hurricanes that were happening. And so the fewer people then maybe were able to make it to their job. But then also these numbers rely on companies reporting their data. If these companies were also managing the impacts of the natural disasters, well, then they were not in a position to deliver that information in a timely way that would feed into the October
Starting point is 00:43:43 numbers. But I think, you know, all of that has to be considered. You know, it's interesting you bring up just where there was the job growth, because I have heard some criticism actually just this morning from a Republican commentator who was saying, oh, look, you know, the economy, we're only seeing increases in government jobs. This is just, you know, this is what this administration wants. It's just everybody in a government job and only 12,000 jobs. This is just, you know, this is what this administration wants. It's just everybody in a government job and only 12,000 jobs. And again, I mean, it's a very similar point to the 12, only focusing on the 12,000 jobs created number out of the full context. Well, yes, those are maybe, you know, looking at the government jobs, jobs that maybe a lot of that
Starting point is 00:44:21 is remote. Maybe that wasn't as impacted by some of the natural disasters that had happened. You have to kind of take it down to a layer. But this would require actually wanting to explain things to ensure that people are understanding what's going on. It does seem, unfortunately, in this moment, especially just a few days away from very consequential election, as we know, that the goal for some folks seems instead to distort rather than explain for understanding. And that's why it's so important that we're making sure everybody has full, accurate information as they're having conversations with people in their lives,
Starting point is 00:44:51 you know, right before Tuesday and making the decisions about who's going to best manage the economy moving forward. Absolutely. Thank you. Matt Manning. Well, let me first say, Morgan, thank you for talking about insurance premiums, because I get mad at State Farm on a daily basis. But in any event, my question to you is a pretty simple one. I think you've kind of already discussed it. There's a lot of rhetoric, a lot of numbers around all of this, and it can be a little
Starting point is 00:45:19 difficult to follow. If you had to pinpoint two or three metrics for anyone who's trying to get just an objective view of how good the economy is doing now as compared to under Mr. Trump, what would those metrics be and what necessary context needs to be around those metrics to really evaluate where the economy is now and the health of the economy? That's a great question. And, you know, I don't at all want to evade in answering the question, but I do think it hits on a fundamental point is a lot of this is really subjective. And so, you know, I think for each of us, our life circumstances are different. The amount of responsibility we have, what the nature of that responsibility is in our lives economically and how we're wading through that is important. So here's what I would say, you know, common factors that people would
Starting point is 00:46:06 encourage us, the experts would encourage us to look to, some of which I've pointed to already today. The unemployment rate. I mean, that's just a sign that overall, are people working? People who want to be working, are they able to find jobs? That's important. The GDP rate of growth, another panel has already mentioned. Is the economy getting bigger? Are we seeing, you know, sufficient economic activity as a country that then creates the opportunity for people who want to be working to make money and want to, and those who run a business and want to start a business to be able to sell enough and have people out there who are going to buy product and make that a good use of their time. I think that's another important one. I'll end with the stock market because I think that's another important one. I'll end with the stock market, because I think that's a complicated one. And I reference that as an indicator that
Starting point is 00:46:49 overall, the markets aren't putting too much or paying too much credence to this jobs number in $12,000 or 12,000 jobs data number that we saw this past month as a sign of overall, the stock market continues to be growing and strong and people are making money off the stock market. But I don't want us to over-index on that because, like I pointed out, I mean, there's other factors, especially considering that, you know, at least half the country is not investing in the stock market, that we all need to consider and look at our lives and decide whether or not we feel like we are comfortable and if we're comfortable economically. And if we're not, what's driving
Starting point is 00:47:28 that uncertainty? What's driving that stress? For a lot of people, it will be like healthcare premiums, like you just mentioned, and we were discussing. Childcare costs. That's not something that's going to be discussed on CNBC, you know, with all the business press every day or in a lot of mainstream media sources. But absolutely, that is something that leads to a lot of stress and determines how good we feel about the economy. And so I think it's a challenge, actually, your question. I'm going to turn it back to the audience as well to be real about what those factors are, try to pinpoint what the source of the stress is, and make sure that we're communicating that to the people who represent us so they have an accurate picture of the indicators that should be driving policymaking, not just the typical data points that the experts are always encouraging us
Starting point is 00:48:10 to look to. All right, then. Morgan Harper, always great to have you on the show, breaking those numbers down. Thanks a lot. Great to see you. those things. And so lots to break down four days away, folks, from election day. If you can early vote, get it done. Don't wait until Tuesday. Make your vote count. And we want to see black folks turning out in huge numbers at the polls all across the country. Folks, you're watching Roland Martin on the filter right here on the Black Star Network live in Mobile, Alabama, where they have the second annual Port City Classic. Don't forget, support the work that we do. We travel around the country covering the stories other folks do not cover. And so please join our Bring the Funk fan club.
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Starting point is 00:49:43 We'll be right back. Her blanket. First of all, I'm the one that got rid of Roe v. Wade. Do you believe in punishment for abortion? There has to be some form of punishment. For the woman? Yeah, there has to be some form. Women will be happy, healthy, confident, and free.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You will no longer be thinking about abortion. It's all they talk about, abortion. You will no longer be abandoned, lonely, or scared. You will no longer have anxiety. You will be protected, and I will be your protector. Disastrous. Alarming. A plan that shreds American values.
Starting point is 00:50:54 That's what independent news sources and conservatives are saying about a proposal from right-wing extremists called Project 2025. It would threaten hundreds of thousands of jobs created by the Clean Energy Plan, give massive tax breaks to big oil, and roll back protections that keep corporations from poisoning our water with toxic chemicals. Project 2025, a dream for them, a disaster for you. Trump ain't sh**.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Did you know that Trump wanted the military to actually shoot Black Lives Matter protesters? I mean, Trump is not shit. He let people die during COVID and then told us to drink bleach. He tried to kill the stimulus bill and couldn't, so he delayed the money just so he could put his name on the check. Trump ain't shit. He used a death penalty to execute Black men like Brandon Bernard. He fucked up Obama's economy, lost thousands of black jobs. He started inflation and gave his billionaire buddies a tax cut.
Starting point is 00:51:53 America, Trump is s***. Don't vote for that man. Nothing but s***. Vote Kamala Harris for president. This is Reggie Roth-Faithulid. You're watching Roland Martin. Unfiltered, uncut, unplugged, and undamned believable. You hear me? Thank you. Folks, an organization known as Follow the Law is running ads in key swing states encouraging election officials to question or in some case refuse to certify election results.
Starting point is 00:53:11 This is the Republicans' plan. Now, courts have found this to be illegal for more than a century. ProPublica and Wisconsin Watch teamed up for this investigative piece called Election Skeptics Are Targeting Voting Officials with Ads That Suggest They Don't Have to Certify Results. Phoebe Petrovich, one of the reporters on this, joins us now from Madison, Wisconsin. Phoebe, this is what we call one of the tactics that Steve Bannon and others have been pushing since 2016. After they lost in 2020, they have been angry. They said they were going to be targeting state election boards, local election boards, to do this very thing. We saw what happened in Georgia, where they tried to,
Starting point is 00:53:58 this election board tried to change the law in terms of, oh, we're going to go to hand counting ballots, things along those lines. This is how Republicans are trying to muck everything up. And listen, lawyers better be ready because this is going to be a legal battle if this is a very close election come Tuesday night. Yeah. As you said, it's totally part of a playbook. This is just one piece in a larger project to kind of leverage every mechanism you possibly can in the election system to their advantage. And one of the really important things with this story was trying to get out the word that certification is mandatory, that this is something courts have held as a mandatory duty of election officials for over a century and follow the law.
Starting point is 00:54:48 The organization that we uncovered in this piece does not identify who they are. They say on their website that they're just a group of lawyers committed to election integrity. But in fact, we found that they are connected with Republicans who have been attacking certification across the country. You know, and what we have to understand, I mean, I can't remember the woman's name, but the clerk was in Arizona who went to federal prison because she refused to certify the election results and was crying. And they were like, oh, my God, she's a victim. No, she broke the law. So other people have done the research. It seems like there's upwards of at least 35 officials across the country who have attempted
Starting point is 00:55:37 to either refuse or delay certification since 2020. And all of those people have been unsuccessful. This has not been successful yet in the United States of America because, exactly as you said, this is a legal requirement. And in some cases, there are criminal penalties that people will face. Someone also in Arizona, in Cochise County, an elections official, just pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for failing to uphold her duties as an election official after voting twice to delay certification. She ultimately was compelled to certify in 2022 by a court, and she did so. And yet, even still, she was charged with two felonies. She pleaded down to a misdemeanor. But she has a criminal record now for that
Starting point is 00:56:24 misdemeanor because she tried has a criminal record now for that misdemeanor because she tried to shirk her legal responsibility. You've been talking to, obviously, election experts. And are they scared to death or are they very worried that we are going to have legal mayhem with this election that just makes 2020 look like recess? I think that everyone that I spoke to, elections experts, elections administrators themselves, journalists, lawyers, poll workers, like, everyone is just—we're realizing that we're not going to get a lot of sleep, that this is going to be a legal fight, that regardless
Starting point is 00:57:19 of the outcome, there will probably be litigation and contestation. I can't speak to whether or not people are scared to death, but they do anticipate that there will be lawsuits. There has been a broad swath of activists and advocacy groups that have sort of attacked certification and tried to undermine it since 2020. But the good thing is that, you know, people are prepared and know about it now and are ready. And so I'm sure that just as there are people who are preparing to file litigation challenging certification, there are lawyers across the country who are prepared to fight back as well. All right, then. Phoebe Petrovich, ProPublica. So appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Thanks for having me. Matt, I want to start with you. Bottom line is this here, these Republicans are going to do whatever they can to try to steal this election, and folks had better be prepared for what is going to come down next week. Correct. And you know, to me it seems like a lot of these lawyers who are involved and are kind of signaling they may be attacking certification processes may be doing so at their own peril, because, you know, in a lot of these situations, we know they're going to be frivolous claims or claims that are otherwise not buttressed by a verification or somebody
Starting point is 00:58:41 signing off, saying they have good authority that, you know, an election process was somehow untoward. So one, it seems to me like you shouldn't be signaling you're going to file a lawsuit until you actually have credible evidence that something bad happened. But what I wanted to ask Phoebe that I did not get to ask that I think is a very important question is, obviously, all of the states have different mechanisms for how they conduct elections. And I would be interested in knowing what particular states we need to be concerned about that have either a democratized certification process, meaning they have
Starting point is 00:59:14 more than one person who has to vote to certify, or what other legal mechanisms we might see beyond a single person refusing to certify the votes, because that seems to be the easier circumstance to overcome, right? But if you have an election board or somebody that gets to certify and you have dissension within those ranks, it seems like certain states could be in play the way that others aren't. And that's my own ignorance speaking, but maybe you can clarify, you know, states that may have a different certification process that would make this potentially more onerous in those states? Well, that is an issue. People have to understand that our elections are state elections. And it comes down to that county and the locale. I mean, listen, Derek, y'all
Starting point is 01:00:02 have been going through this in Georgia when the Republicans lied about voter fraud, completely overhauled the results because they lost in 2020. And they want to try to strip power from places like in Fulton County and put it under state control. You know, Roland, and you're right. I mean, I always say Georgia's ground zero, right? Because if you go back to 2020, where we were, but I will say just today, Roland, I'm reporting that the Secretary of State state that he's going to uphold the certification. And so when you think about across these battleground states, these attorneys generals and lawyers being hired on both sides,
Starting point is 01:00:49 they're already signaling, for the most part, that they're going to uphold the law. And that is refreshing, because if you go back to 2020, over 60 different federal judges told Donald Trump to go Pakistan because they were not going to overturn the election. And so I still truly believe that some folks still want to abide by the law. They're going to uphold next Tuesday the results, however those results may be. Michael? Yeah, Roland, you know, this is more treachery and skullduggery from Republicans. And, you know, just a couple of days ago, Donald Trump slidely said that he and Speaker Mike Johnson have a secret weapon and that when you deal with it in the federal level, when it comes to certifying election results, they're going
Starting point is 01:01:54 to try to pull something there if it's close. So this is to be expected from Republicans. And reading this article from ProPublica, you know, the ad directs you to a Web site that has misinformation about the actual laws there in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin when it comes to certifying election results. Instead of trying to make, create better policies to make people, like, want to vote for your candidates, you're trying to find other ways to lie to people and instill elections. So this is why it's important for people to vote. Hopefully it's not a close election. I think a lot of the polls are not accurately measuring the enthusiasm that Vice President Kamala Harris has as well. She just had 75,000 people at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C., when she spoke.
Starting point is 01:02:51 But this is why elections have consequences. Okay. I got to stop you, because in a moment, Vice President actually is about to come up and speak. Real quick, Some breaking news. The U.S. Supreme Court is allowing a Pennsylvania court ruling to stand that will allow folks who have problems with their mail-in ballots to still be counted for them to be corrected. And so that's from the Supreme Court. Not sure how many people are going to be impacted by that. But again, Alito wrote that the court couldn't give the Republicans who brought the appeal what they wanted, even if it wanted to.
Starting point is 01:03:34 He said it's a matter of considerable importance, even if we agree with the applicant's federal constitutional argument, a question on which I expressed no view at this time, we could not prevent the consequence they fear. All right, folks, let's go to, is it Wisconsin? The vice president of Wisconsin. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
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Starting point is 01:04:53 Add free at Lava for the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Starting point is 01:05:33 We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Caramouch. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.
Starting point is 01:05:46 It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Johnson, she's there. Let's go there right now. I want to thank all the leaders, everyone, and thank you for taking the time out of your busy lives to be here this afternoon. You know, we are all here because we care and we know that this is about community and of all of us being here together at one time. And I thank you all. And I want to thank my dear friend Tammy Baldwin. Send her back to the United States Senate.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Lieutenant Governor Rodriguez. County Executive Nelson, and the chair of our Democratic Party, Ben Wickler. All right, we have work to do. Okay, Wisconsin, four days left in probably one of, if not the most consequential elections of our lifetime. And we have work to do still. We have a lot of work to do. But we like hard work.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Hard work is good work. Hard work is joyful work. And make no mistake, we will win. We will win. We will win. We will win. We will win. And one of the reasons— We will win.
Starting point is 01:07:33 We will win. We will win. We will win. We will win. And we will win, and we will win because we are the type of people who we know when you know what to stand for, you know what to fight for. You know what to fight for. Right? And in this election, we have an opportunity to finally turn the page on a decade of Donald Trump trying to keep us divided and afraid of each other.
Starting point is 01:08:04 We're done with that. We're done. We're exhausted with that. Donald Trump trying to keep us divided and afraid of each other. We're done with that. We're done. We're exhausted with that. And we know that's who he is, but Wisconsin, that's not who we are. That's not who we are. That's not who we are. And it is time for a new generation of leadership in America. And I am ready to offer that leadership as the next president of the United States of America. And Wisconsin, you know me, I'm not afraid of tough fights. For decades—clearly—for decades, I was a prosecutor and the top law enforcement officer
Starting point is 01:08:59 of the biggest state. And I won fights against the big banks who ripped off homeowners, against for-profit colleges that scammed veterans and students, against predators who abused women and children, against cartels that trafficked in guns and drugs and human beings. And I pledge to you, if you give me the chance to fight on your behalf as president, there is nothing in the world that will stand in my way. And look, and on the other side, we know who Donald Trump is. Now, this is not someone who is thinking about how to make your life better. He is someone who is increasingly unstable, obsessed with revenge, consumed with grievance. And the man is out for unchecked power. He's out for unchecked power. He's out for unchecked power.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And in less than 90 days, you can picture the Oval Office, in less than 90 days, it's either going to be him or me sitting in the Oval Office. I need your help. Okay. But let's help the friends and family and neighbors who are not here right now imagine that for a minute, right? January 20th, Oval Office it's either gonna be him sitting in there pouring over and stewing over his enemies list or when I am elected it will be me walking in there on your
Starting point is 01:10:57 behalf working on my to-do list Because we have work to do. Because we have work to do. And at the top of my list is bringing down the cost of living for you. That will be my focus every single day as president, including I will give a middle-class tax cut to over 100 million Americans. We will enact the first-ever federal ban on corporate price gouging on groceries. And fight to make sure that hardworking Americans can actually afford a place to live. And one of the things that we were talking about backstage is about the importance of people being able to care for their family members and including, and in particular, their elder family members.
Starting point is 01:12:01 And some of you may know— and this is personal for me, as are so many of these issues. I took care of my mother when she was sick, and I know what it is in terms of taking care of someone and just trying to cook the things that they feel like eating, right? Just trying to help them put on a sweater. Trying to think from time to time, what can I do to put a smile on their face or make them laugh? It is important work, and it is work that is about dignity. It's about dignity. And if you are caring then for an elderly parent or relative, my plan is to cover the cost of home care under Medicare so you don't have to worry about either spending down whatever savings you have to qualify for
Starting point is 01:13:00 Medicaid or quitting your job and cutting off a source of income to be able to stay at home in particular if you're in the sandwich generation meaning that you are taking care of your kids while you are taking care of a parent it's about dignity and my plan will also lower the cost of childcare again about dignity. About dignity. My plan is to prioritize cutting taxes for small businesses. Do we have small business owners here? I love our small businesses. You are part of the backbone of America's economy, and that's the work we will do.
Starting point is 01:13:47 We will do the work of lowering health care costs, because I believe—I believe so deeply and strongly—access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. It's about values. of those who can afford it. It's about values. It's about values. On the other hand, Donald Trump's answer to the financial pressures you face
Starting point is 01:14:16 are the same as they were last time. Another trillion dollars in tax cuts for billionaires and the biggest corporations. And this time, he will pay for it with a 20 percent national sales tax on everything that you buy that is imported—clothes, food, toys, cell phones—a Trump sales tax that would cost the average American family—economists have measured it—more than $4,000 a year that you are not
Starting point is 01:14:46 paying, you would have to pay because of that tax. And on top of that, as we have discussed, he still wants to get rid of the Affordable Care Act, which would throw millions of people, millions of Americans, off of their health insurance and take us back to the time when insurance companies could deny people with pre-existing conditions. You remember what that was? Well, you are correct. We are not going back.
Starting point is 01:15:13 We are not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back.
Starting point is 01:15:21 We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back! We're not going back! And we are not going back because just like Wisconsin's state motto tells us, we will move forward! We will move forward! You guys know that best!
Starting point is 01:15:44 So ours, ours is a fight for the future, and it is a fight for freedom. Like the fundamental freedom of a woman to be able to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do. And we remember how we got here. Donald Trump, when he was president, hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade. They did as he intended. And now, over 20 states have a Trump abortion ban.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Imagine, in America today, one in three women lives in a state with a Trump abortion ban. Many with no exceptions, even for rape and incest, which is immoral. And Donald Trump's not done. He would ban abortion nationwide. Yes, even here in Wisconsin were that to happen. And he would restrict access to birth control, put IVF treatments at risk, and force states, get this, to monitor women's pregnancies. Just Google Project 2025, which I still can't believe they put in writing. And let us agree, one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government shouldn't be telling her what to do.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Not the government. Not the government. Not the government. Not the government. Not the government. And when Congress, and when Congress together with Tammy's leadership passes a bill to restore reproductive freedom nationwide as President of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law. I will proudly sign it into law. So, Wisconsin, I am asking for your vote. I am asking for your vote. And here is my pledge to you. Here is my pledge to you. As president, I pledge to seek common ground and common-sense solutions to the challenges
Starting point is 01:18:18 you face. I pledge that I am not looking to score political points. I am looking to make progress. And I pledge, I pledge to listen to those who will be impacted by the decisions I make. I will listen to experts. I will listen to the people who disagree with me. Because, you see, unlike Donald Trump, I don't believe that people who disagree with me are the enemy. He wants to put them in jail.
Starting point is 01:18:53 I'll give them a seat at the table. That's what a democracy is about. That's what leaders do. And it is my pledge to always put country above party and self and to be a president for all Americans. For all Americans. That is my pledge to you, Wisconsin. So let me ask, we're four days out. Who here has already voted? Oh, wow! Oh my goodness! That's great! Thank you! Okay, well here's what I want to ask. I want to ask a little more of you.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Please talk to your friends and family and neighbors. And share your perspective. Share why you have taken the time out of your lives to spend this time here when there's so many other things you could do. Let them know. Because this moment, I think, really is our opportunity to reconnect with people and remind them they're not alone and build community. And so please share with them why this election is important to you and
Starting point is 01:20:19 encourage them to make their voices heard. And for anyone who's not yet voted, no judgment, but please take a moment now to just think about what your plan will be for when and where you will vote and please go to Iwillvote.com, yes I have a website, for all the information you might need about when and where you can go to vote and where to drop off your absentee ballot. And Wisconsin, truly we need everyone to vote here. You, Wisconsin, are gonna make the difference in this election. You will make the difference. And so it all comes down to this. We are here together
Starting point is 01:21:08 because we love our country. We love our country. And when you love something, you fight for it. And I do believe it is one of the highest forms of patriotism, an expression of our love of our country, to then fight for the ideals of our country. That's what this is about. And it is fighting for the promise of America. And I'll tell you, I have always believed in our nation's promise because I have lived it. I grew up as a child of the civil rights movement. My parents took me to the marches when I was in a stroller. And there were people there from every walk of life who came together to fight for freedom and for opportunity. Growing up, I saw how hard my mother worked to raise my sister and me and to give us the same chances that our country gave her. And I was blessed to have family by blood and family by love who instilled
Starting point is 01:22:17 in me—you know what I'm talking about—and instilled in me the values of community and compassion and faith. And I've spent my life fighting for people who have been hurt and who have been counted out. But who never stopped believing in our country that anything is possible. I have lived the promise of America. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future
Starting point is 01:22:58 where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st
Starting point is 01:23:45 and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real
Starting point is 01:24:29 from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two
Starting point is 01:24:48 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. And I see the promise of America in everyone who is here, in all of us, in all of us, in all of us. This is the promise of America. This is the promise of America. In the fathers and mothers and grandparents who work hard every day for the future of their children, in the women who refuse to accept a future without reproductive freedom, and in the men who support them, in Republicans who have never voted for a Democrat before but are putting the Constitution of the United States above party. Right?
Starting point is 01:26:03 The promise of America is all around us. It is in the young leaders who are voting for the very first time. Where are you? Where are you? Oh, I love Gen Z. I really do. You know what I love about Z, I really do. You know what I love about this generation?
Starting point is 01:26:27 You all are rightly impatient for change. You know? You are determined to live free from gun violence, to take on the climate crisis. You guys are gonna shape the world you inherit. And for this generation, none of these issues is theoretical for them. It's not political for them.
Starting point is 01:26:55 For you all, it is a lived experience. It is a lived experience. That's right. And I see you, and I see your power. And I am so proud of you when I think about the future of our nation. So can we hear it for our first-time voters? Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Right. All right. So, Wisconsin, four days. Right. Right. Right. All right. So, Wisconsin, four days. Four days to get this thing done. And no one can sit on the sidelines. Let's spend the next four days so that when we look back on these four days, we have no regrets that we did everything that we could.
Starting point is 01:27:43 So let's knock on doors. let's text and call voters, let's reach out to family and friends and classmates and neighbors and co-workers. And as we do, please, I do ask you, let us be intentional about building community. Let us be intentional about building coalitions. Let us remind each other and others that we have so much more in common than what separates us. Let us do that. There is power in that. It will strengthen our country. And we'll remind folks also, your vote is your voice, and your voice is your power. It is your power. And so, Wisconsin, today I ask you, are you ready to make your voices heard? Do we believe in freedom? Are you ready to make your voices heard?
Starting point is 01:28:47 Do we believe in freedom? Do we believe in opportunity? Do we believe in the promise of America? And are we ready to fight for it? And when we fight, we win. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America. Thank you. Folks, that's Vice President Kamala Harris live in Little Chute, Wisconsin. Huge rally there. She is closing absolutely strong.
Starting point is 01:29:39 There's no doubt she is energized by what she is seeing all across the country. And, of course, there's going to be a massive rally tonight in Milwaukee. No doubt she is energized with what she is seeing all across the country. And, of course, there's going to be a massive rally tonight in Milwaukee. As I said, the Osley brothers, Glorilla, Cardi B, others are going to be performing there as well. And so you see what's going on there, folks. I'm going to go to a break. We come back. We're going to talk about more of this campaign. There's some new ads that the campaign has dropped.
Starting point is 01:30:05 I want to share some of those with you as well, plus some other groups. We'll talk more about this crucial election. Folks, we are four days away from the election being over. And so we'll keep talking about it. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network, broadcasting live from Mobile, Alabama, site of the second annual Port City Classic. Back in a moment. Here's a 78-year-old billionaire who has not stopped whining about his problems. Oh, she had a big crowd. Oh, the crowd. This weird obsession with crowd sizes.
Starting point is 01:30:43 It just goes on and on and on. America's ready for a new chapter. We are ready for a President Kamala Harris. I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message. Wrongfully convicted. Five teenagers were arrested, tried, convicted and sent to prison men were exonerated what he did to us he tried to end us of course i hate these people so-called the central park five calling by execution and let's all hate these people you cannot have this man go into
Starting point is 01:31:16 office again i want society to him we were innocent kids the confessions were caused today we are exonerated that guy says he still stands by the original guilty verdict. This is about democracy being on the ballot. I have absolutely no compassion. Look at Kamala. She represents the kaleidoscope of the human family. There's something different happening in America. We will get the opportunity to build a future where we will be able to thrive and not just survive.
Starting point is 01:31:53 In 2016, Donald Trump said he would choose only the best people to work in his White House. Now those people have a warning for America. Trump is not fit to be president again. Here's his vice president. Anyone who puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year. His defense secretary. Do you think Trump can be trusted with the nation's secrets ever again? No. I mean, it's just irresponsible action that places our service members at risk, places our nation's security at risk. His national security advisor. Donald Trump will cause a lot of damage. The only thing he cares about is Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:32:26 And the nation's highest-ranking military officer. We don't take an oath to a king or a queen or a tyrant or a dictator. And we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. Take it from the people who knew him best. Donald Trump is a danger to our troops and our democracy. We can't let him lead our country again. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. What's up, y'all?
Starting point is 01:32:49 This is Wendell Haskins, a.k.a. Winn Hogan, at the original T-Golf Classic. And you know I watch Roland Martin unfiltered. Folks, again, four days from Election Day, and the Poor People's Campaign are very much involved in contacting millions of low-income and poor workers all across this nation. Joining us right now is Rev. Dr. William J. Barber, co-convener of the Poor People's Campaign. He, of course, in his personal capacity has endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris. He is calling us from South Carolina.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Reverend Barbara, just talk about the work that y'all have been doing, very much data-driven, and really focusing on reaching the folks. Because as you keep saying, if low-income poor workers, if a small shift of those folks actually vote, that could determine the outcome of this election. Yeah, Roland. And I want to thank you, first, and your listeners, because you understood early on and got involved. And we had this goal of reaching 15 million poor and low-wage workers and people in this country who are mostly already registered
Starting point is 01:34:08 but had not voted. And the number one reason they had not voted in recent elections was nobody talked to them. And to date, we have reached over 12 million, which has never been done before. In the states that we looked at, it would only take—the highest state was 10 percent. Every other state, it was under 7 percent of poor and low-wage people that didn't vote in the last election. If they voted and voted on the agenda, they could determine the outcome of the election. And we have been on this thing. I sent you some data pieces today.
Starting point is 01:34:39 You know, like, for instance, North Carolina, we touched over 990,000 people in this state. They got a report card. They got a video of people themselves, people like themselves. And we had a major what we call motivation test. We did a field test of our message to make sure we just weren't wasting time. But in addition to that, we did old-fashioned canvassing, enrolling and touched over 200 and some thousand individual homes. And for your listeners, we did this with under 700 volunteers. Under 700 volunteers from the fraternities and sororities and unions and the people in the campaign.
Starting point is 01:35:23 It doesn't take a whole lot of people to do something that's massive if we work together. And when you talk about reaching them, Reverend Barber, just walk us through that. What does that mean? What does that look like? What messages are y'all conveying to those voters? Well, first of all, the very fact that we talk to them, we reach them, and they're getting peer-to-peer contact.
Starting point is 01:35:49 And then what they, the first thing they get when they open that text, and we had high opening percentages, is they get a video that pops right at them, and it's people like themselves saying, why is it that we must vote,
Starting point is 01:36:02 and reminding them that poor and low-wage people are the largest swing vote in the country, potential swing vote in the country. So you've got to remind people of their power. That's what—because some people feel helpless. They feel like they don't have any power. The second thing that we talked to them about was the issues that impact their lives.
Starting point is 01:36:21 We simply said, this is where Democrats, where Republicans, where Trump and Harris stand on raising the minimum wage. We couldn't tell them who to vote for, but we could tell them where people have stood on these issues. That's what the law allows. Minimum wage, health care, public education, HBCU funding, women's right to choose, women's health. And these are issues that people are concerned about, because it impacts them every day. And we say to them, here's what people have stood. We can't tell you to vote for, but we can tell you where they have stood on these issues. And we even told it if it was a situation where Democrats and Republicans stood basically the same, because we wanted our report card to have legitimacy.
Starting point is 01:37:03 We didn't want it to be seen just as a partisan tool. We wanted to say this is something that's telling you the truth. And the last thing they got was how to go and make sure their registrations were good, how to find out about early voting or not in that state. So they got three pieces of empowerment, both in person and through our text messaging program. You talk about, again, where those voters are so important. You've got seven battleground states. When we look at the numbers of the seven, which are the top three or four where low-income, working-class voters could really decide this election? Trump won by 74,000 votes in North Carolina the last time.
Starting point is 01:37:55 One million poor and low-wage voters did not vote that could have voted. It would only take 7 percent to outdistance the margin of victory in the last election. In Pennsylvania, the margin of victory was 40,000 in the last election. 1.4 million poor, low-wage people did not vote. It would only take right at 3 to 4 percent of them to outdistance the democracy in the last election. And in Michigan in 2016, Trump wins by 10,000. It would only take... Looks like we lost the connection with Reverend Barber. He is actually driving in South Carolina. Let me know if we get Reverend Barber back.
Starting point is 01:38:46 And so, again, let me know if we get him back. You hear me? Yeah. Okay, Reverend Barber. Now we got you. We lost your connection. Go right ahead. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:56 I'm sorry. If you look at Michigan, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina alone, you're talking about one, two, three, four million people that did not vote, poor and low wager did not vote. But in those same states, you're only talking about 100,000 vote margin between those states. You know, that's the thing we're trying to show people. Trump won in 2016, Roland, by 80,000 votes in three states that gave him the margin of victory in the electoral college. In those same states, over 4.5 million poor and low-wage voters did not vote. So, Celinda Lake and other folk who are pollsters have said it's a form of political suicide not to go after this particular voting bloc.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Let me tell you one other thing. They did a study and found out that in Georgia the margin of victory was—there were a million voters that did not vote. The exit polls show that if those million voters were to vote today, the Harris-Walls campaign would get 749,000 out of the one million would go toward the Harris-Walls campaign based on the exit polls. What it is is a majority of poor and low wealth folk will vote progressive if, in fact, they know that they're voting for somebody that's going to deal with health care and living wages and even voting rights and a woman's right to their own health choices. Well, again, we keep saying it's four days, four days until Election day, and every vote does count. Reverend Barber, before I let you go, make the case. There's somebody who's out there right now who's watching us, who's listening to us. We're going to share this on social media. And they are on the fence. They don't know if they're going to vote for Harris, if they're going to vote for Trump, or if they don't know if they're
Starting point is 01:41:03 going to vote at all. There are some people, young folks and others, who say, I'm for Harris, if they don't know if they're going to vote for Trump, or if they don't know if they're going to vote at all. There are some people, young folks and others, who say, I'm disaffected. I don't think this stuff matters. I don't believe my vote counts. What would you tell them directly? Well, two things. Join us on Sunday night at 7 o'clock for a national revival that Roland is going to carry of the last push coming from Union Baptist Church
Starting point is 01:41:25 in Winston-Salem. But I would say to them, when it comes to—when you look at this campaign, you cannot stay on the fence and have middle ground when you have offenses like constitutional denying, rule of law breaking, fighting against living wage, fighting against health care, fighting against voting rights campaign out here. When you see real clearly what's at stake, everything that we care about in this democracy is at stake. The potential to even have a democracy that really deals with the issues that affect our lives.
Starting point is 01:42:05 You know, if you're mad because you don't have any money, well, one side is saying the minimum wage is too high. Trump says it's too high. The House campaign is saying they're going to raise it to $15,000 in the union. You've got to look at—you can't just look at the NUIN bills. You've got to look at policy and what's at stake. One campaign says, I'll break the Constitution. The other says, I want to strengthen it. So you have to look at this. There can be no middle ground, no middle ground at this point. You've got to
Starting point is 01:42:33 make a decision. You've got to vote, not just because your mom and dad and others before you died, but because if you don't vote, you could actually be a part and accessory to the crime of this democracy dying as we know it and becoming something that we really would not recognize
Starting point is 01:42:50 or will not recognize in two or three years. This is the time. This is your moment to step up to the plate. Indeed, indeed. Reverend Dr. William Butler, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you, my brother. Take care. Yes, sir. And as you said, we will be carrying that Sunday Revival live right here on the Black Star Network.
Starting point is 01:43:13 In addition, we're going to be in Lansing, Michigan on Sunday when Vice President Kamala Harris is holding a rally at Michigan State. We're going to go to break. We're going to come back. I'm going to play you some of these new ads that drop, get thoughts and reflections from our panel, and talk about some of the other news of the day. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered with Black Star Network. Back in a moment. Jill Stein, Green Party candidate for president. So why are Trump's close allies helping her? Stein was key to Trump's 2016 wins in battleground states. She's not sorry she helped Trump win. That's why a vote for Stein is really a vote for Trump. Jill Stein, I like her very much. You know why? She takes 100 percent from them. I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Disastrous. That's what independent news sources and conservatives are saying about Project 2025. It would threaten hundreds of thousands of jobs, give massive tax breaks to big oil, and roll back protections. A dream for them, a disaster for you. The overturning of Roe almost killed me. I had a blood clot in my uterus that caused my labor to have to be induced because of the overturn of Roe v. Wade. I wasn't able to get life-saving treatment sooner. I almost died.
Starting point is 01:44:40 And that's because of the decision that Donald Trump made. I was able to get Roe v. Wade terminated and I'm proud to have done it. The doctors and nurses were afraid that if they treated me in the incorrect way that they would be prosecuted for that and that's appalling. Donald Trump says that women should be punished.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Do you believe in punishment for abortion? There has to be some form of punishment. For the woman? Yeah. I believe that women should have reproductive freedom to make the choices about their own bodies. Four more years of Donald Trump means that women's rights will continue to be taken away one by one by one by one. This has to stop because women are dying. I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message.
Starting point is 01:45:23 I get it. The cost of rent, groceries and I approve this message because you work hard for your paycheck. You should get to keep more of it. As president, I'll make that my top priority. Hi, everybody. I'm Kim Coles. Hey, I'm Donnie Simpson. Yo, it's your man, Deon Cole, from Blackish, and you're watching... Roland Martin, Unfiltered on the Black Star Network.
Starting point is 01:46:12 The Harris campaign rolling out some new ads targeting Donald Trump. Let's roll the first one. Never before has there been such a danger to America. A creature with orange leathery skin looms in the shadow, coming to destroy democracy. You're not going to be a dictator, are you? I said no, no, no, other than day one. Raising prices for families. 100, 200, 2,000 percent tariffs.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Spreading racist lies. They're eating the dogs, the people that came in. They're eating the cats. Admiring dictators. To deal with Putin and Kim Jong-un and all of the people that you, the very fine people you have to deal with. Don't believe us? Ask his own staff. Trump asked me to put him over my oath.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president god help us a total fascist this creature vies for total unchecked power vote harris walsh to stop him All right, folks, that's one of those ads. Let's see the second one. For too long, a cloud has hovered over this country. One of division and fear. Fear of each other. Fear of our differences. He tried to turn Fear of each other. Fear of our differences. He tried to turn us against each other.
Starting point is 01:47:50 To normalize violence and hate. But we know who we are. We are Americans. We love this country. And while we may not all share politics or geography, we know the time has come for common sense and common ground. For a leader who holds true to our ideals that all are created equal, and the American dream belongs to each of us.
Starting point is 01:48:17 That having a home, making family, living one's golden years in health and security, must not be a privilege for some, but a right for all. And while the fabric of this nation may be tattered, we can mend it together. One family, one community, one vote at a time. It's a new day rising, one of unity and hope, of a shared belief in what's possible when we remember who we are, the greatest nation on earth, America. All right, here's a pretty good ad the folks at Midas Touch put together. We're effectively run in this country by a bunch of childless cat ladies.
Starting point is 01:49:48 We are not going back. The folks at VoteVets have really been emphasizing Donald Trump, how scary he would be for the military. And so here's what they just released. Put on Pavarotti singing Ave Maria. Nice and loud. Turn it up louder. We want a little action here. Turn it up louder.
Starting point is 01:50:21 This American car. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser
Starting point is 01:51:00 Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1 Taser Incorporated
Starting point is 01:51:14 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Real people, real perspectives. This has kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Starting point is 01:52:04 We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Caramouch. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.
Starting point is 01:52:17 It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Stops right here and stops right now. You also had people that were very fine people on both sides. During my four years, nothing happened, and there was great pressure on me having to deal with guns.
Starting point is 01:53:01 We did nothing. We didn't yield. They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. I got rid of Roe v. Wade. We have a woke military. My call was perfect. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body. Yeah, no, I don't take responsibility at all.
Starting point is 01:53:31 I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Stand back and stand by. And we're going to the capital you have to get your people to fight and we fight we fight like hell what the hell do you have to lose trump may not remember but we can never forget forget. All right, folks. Here is the Don Winslow. He's a progressive book author.
Starting point is 01:54:14 Big supporter of Vice President Kamala Harris. Hates Donald Trump. And he self-financed this ad. I accept your nomination to be President of the United States of America. Do we believe in freedom? Do we believe in opportunity?
Starting point is 01:54:44 Do we believe in the promise of America? And are we ready to fight for it? And when we fight, we win! God bless you, much, couple. We fight, we win. And I pledge to be a president for all Americans. Good evening, America! I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Starting point is 01:55:29 Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened
Starting point is 01:55:52 when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott.
Starting point is 01:56:33 And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player,
Starting point is 01:56:46 Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding
Starting point is 01:56:58 of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corps vet.
Starting point is 01:57:10 MMA fighter. Liz Caramouch. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. And when we fight, we win! All right, folks. If we have the if we have the project, link the project ad, which shows Donald's absolute distaste and distrust of women. And the first word she heard was the word. The C word. Every woman has heard it. From the angry ex.
Starting point is 01:58:26 From the asshole boss. It's not a joke to us. But it is to Trump and Elon. The pro-Trump super PAC launched by Elon Musk, posted and then deleted. Kamala Harris is a C word. You heard that right. A big old C word. They even end it with see you next Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Well, for once, they're right. Let's go to our panel, of course, Derek, Matt and Michael. Listen, I people talk about, hey, ads don't matter. The point of a lot of these are really to focus on going viral. And we're going to pull up one more. It's not an actual ad, though. A lot of young women, a lot of young women, Matt, on TikTok are recirculating the Access Hollywood tape from 2016, what Donald Trump talked about in a shameful way the treatment of women.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Now, if you've got women who are 20 years old now, that comes out. They were 12 years old in 2016. And so this thing all of a sudden is flying on social media, flying around on TikTok, and these young women are hearing what Donald Trump had to say, this is the kind of thing that I do believe is having a tremendous impact of driving young women to the polls. And we're seeing it in the early voting data. Yeah. See, also, the E. Jean Carroll allegations were from, what, the 90s or the late 80s? So obviously, I think it was the 90s. Let me
Starting point is 02:00:05 not speak incorrectly. But that, you know, buttresses that that is a pattern of conduct, right? That's the kind of thing that somebody's been doing for years. And you get caught on a tape, you know, surreptitiously thinking you're not being recorded saying something as abhorrent as he did. So I think you're right. I think those women from eight years ago who are 20-year-olds now or were even 10-year-olds then or 18-year-olds now voting in their first election will not forget those things. What I wanted to say about the ads, though, I think sometimes they are a little bit superfluous, especially at this stage.
Starting point is 02:00:34 However, I think a couple of them are particularly important, and I thought it was very clever, the one about the creature from the Orange Lagoon, because I know The Atlantic reported yesterday that in Pennsylvania in particular, the early voting numbers show, I think, a 5 percent lead for Vice President Harris, and that was a 5 percent lead for Mr. Trump, I believe, a week ago. So there's very clearly a groundswell. And that, to be particular, that 5 percent lead is in voters 65 or older. And that's important, because that's a demographic that I think customarily has gone to the Republicans voting in early voting, but it's going the other
Starting point is 02:01:10 way for Vice President Harris right now. I think that's a very good sign. And I think maybe the ads are one of the things that plays into that. But moreover, one of the other things I want to mention is that I think the most effective of any of these ads are the ads where they just put back-to-back very caustic things that Trump has said, because what you very often see and what you're seeing from his team right now with the Liz Cheney comments is they try to one-off everything. But the thing about it is Mr. Trump continues to say hateful things and has for 40 years at this point.
Starting point is 02:01:43 And when you string them all together, it is very hard to make any kind of cognizable defense against that. I mean, if you are voting for Trump, you are doing so in spite of an overwhelming body of evidence of hateful rhetoric and continued hateful rhetoric. So I think those ads are particularly effective. And if there are anybody out there who's actually still on the fence, that's what I think would push them over the balance to not vote for Mr. Trump and to vote for Vice President Harris. I brought up that Access Hollywood tape.
Starting point is 02:02:15 And we're going to try to find one of these TikTok videos. And Carol, what I saw, it was two young women who were sitting next to each other, they were listening to the tape. And so if y'all could find that video and we could play it, please do so. Also, Michael, a video that was circulating, Donald Trump, when he testified before Congress, where he was trying to stop the expansion of Native American casinos. And he was like, well, these people, they don't look Native American. And again, showing how racist he has always been.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Absolutely. White supremacist, racist to the core. I heard this morning on MSNBC them talking about Gen Z finding out about the Access Hollywood tape and how they've been circulating on social media. And I didn't even realize that they didn't know about the Access Hollywood tape and how they've been circulating on social media. And I didn't even realize that they didn't know about the Access Hollywood tape. You know, a lot of times certain things we just take for granted, even though because it's been shown ad nauseum. Right. We just think everybody knows about it. But they're finding out about that and they're coming away realizing, putting all this into perspective. And at the same time, he bragged about taking away a woman's right to choose what she does with her body and overturning Roe versus Wade. But the commercial, and I know you probably talked about it here on the show earlier this
Starting point is 02:03:37 week, Roland, but the commercial, I think, is really pissing off MAGA, and Jesse Waters talked about it on Fox News. It's the commercial where you have it saying that women, you don't have to tell your husband who you voted for. And when you're in the voting booth, you know that's a private matter. So he said that a woman who doesn't vote the way her husband votes, that's like cheating on her husband. OK, this is how sick these people are. These people are back in the 1950s and really trying to take us back
Starting point is 02:04:10 to the 1850s. So, oh yeah, these people have to be defeated, but you listen to them. You listen to them, and it's like where did these people come from? You know, what type of upbringing did they have to think of women like that,
Starting point is 02:04:26 dehumanize women like that? So this is another reason why elections have consequences. Well, Derek, what Derek, I'll tell you, Derek, I'll tell you, it's very interesting when we talk about that.
Starting point is 02:04:42 Guys, let me know in control when y'all have that ad. I think we ran it the other day. And, man, these folks on the right wing were pissed off. And there's this idiot, this black dude, he's on, named Delano something. He's stupid. Delano Squires. And so he took exception to me criticizing Republicans Republicans whining about that. And these dudes are so-called Christians, and they really believe women should stay in their place. And they really, because I was criticizing this one pastor who said that women should be following the lead and voting like their husbands. And boy, they are upset.
Starting point is 02:05:25 Yeah, Charlie Kirk was foaming at the mouth on Megyn Kelly's show. And you would have thought Megyn Kelly would have checked him on that. But, of course, she's been kissing Donald Trump's ass so much, you think she's a member of the family now. But it goes to show you, yeah, how effective these ads are. And what's interesting is that women have been, I've been seeing these all across social media, they've been leaving Post-it notes in women's restrooms all around the country in stalls saying your vote is private, you don't have to vote with your husband. I mean, look, that's low-key guerrilla tactics, but the bottom line is in a margin election you take whatever you can get. You know, Roland, you're exactly right. These ads are very effective. They're so effective that you have individuals like LeBron James that makes an endorsement and roll in some of these ads.
Starting point is 02:06:19 The other benefit, you have these young ladies on TikTok. Again, they roll in these ads, roll in, and they have this one in particular that has gone viral the last 24 to 48 hours. It says, my vote will cancel out my dad's vote or my brother's vote or my uncle's vote. And this thing has gone viral. And so the benefit of these ads is clearly to get underneath Trump's campaign team and those who are following Trump. But more importantly, these ads are demonstrating how quick and nimble the Kamala Harris campaign team is to get this out on social media. So that way it can penetrate TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X and all these various platforms with her message. And to really paint the picture how very different these two presidential candidates are. Absolutely. And do we have, guys, do we have that, the Women Voting in Private ad? Do we have that?
Starting point is 02:07:46 One other thing I would add, Roland, as a retired naval officer, you're seeing other organizations outside of the campaign team who are also bringing their voice when it comes to these ads, how they're saying how Trump is not only unfit and unqualified to ever stand behind the seal, but to be commander in chief, especially when he made the comment that he's going to use the military to round up citizens. And he crossed the line when he said that. And then military vets came out with their ad. All right, let's roll that ad, y'all. You still voting for him? Hell yeah. What about your wife?
Starting point is 02:08:37 She doesn't like him, but she's voting for him. Same with mine. Thank you. All right. So control room, I sent y'all another one, if y'all could pull that. So that one was a Lincoln Project ad. So if y'all could pull that. So that one was the Lincoln Project ad. So if y'all could pull this next one. Julia Roberts actually voiced an ad. And just so y'all know, I'm sitting here, you know, I typed in in YouTube, you type in women voting against husband. So you see this piece in the Washington Examiner, conservative paper.
Starting point is 02:10:02 Julia Roberts under fire for inviting women to vote differently than their husbands. Then you see Charlie Kirk and Jesse Waters and Fox News upset. Sky News Australia, Omar Rupert Murdoch, a tacky Harris campaign ad presents a negative approach. Greg Gutfield is upset. White nationalist Matt Walsh, who's absolutely a sexist. This Democrat ad is the most. I love this here. This Democrat ad is the most vile anti-family campaign ever. These white men are so mad and upset that they are losing their minds because they actually believe it. Look, we saw, that was a story I saw two weeks ago where a woman said,
Starting point is 02:10:48 you know, I, this is the first time I voted in my life because my husband would not let me vote. She said, but he dead now and I'm voting. So, uh, if y'all have the Julie, Julia Roberts ad, go ahead, go ahead and roll it. All right. Y'all don't have it yet. let me know when y'all have it but but but again uh matt this is what these these ads do work because what it's doing is uh you're not focused necessarily on trying to get on television but if you're able to again drive this on social it gets picked up and it goes viral and it's on Instagram and it's being shared and liked, whatever, it changes the game. Yeah, I think it does. And I think,
Starting point is 02:11:31 you know, I said superfluous earlier. That's not the right word. I think what I'm trying to say is at this stage, I would think people would have their mind made up. But for those who don't, I do think that they're powerful, especially like Derek spoke to. Anything I've seen that is, you know, a commercial where it's vets that are denouncing Mr. Trump, I think are particularly effective, especially when you have somebody coming in you know is going to be a fascist if military people are saying he's not the right guy. Now, let me first say, I'm not giving legal advice, but please don't go to the polls and talk to anybody else casting a vote. Don't get yourself arrested. I get the sentiment,
Starting point is 02:12:03 and I like that from the Lincoln Project ad, but, you know, obviously, you don't want to be talking to anybody at the polls. But I do think that's effective. And I think it's crazy that in 2024, we're still having conversations about women as property, because that's ultimately what this comes down to. There's a large contingent of men who think that their wife is essentially their property, or at least that they can control, you know, her decisions. And obviously women are autonomous. And not only that, women vote in higher proportions than men do. So clearly, you know, they are making informed decisions. And it's crazy that you'd have somebody like that woman saying, this is the first time I'm going to vote because my husband wouldn't let me. That's absurd, but unfortunately, some people's
Starting point is 02:12:41 reality. So I'm glad it's being called out. And I'm glad that women are mobilizing, as they always do, in this election, because that's going to be what tips the balance. In fact, I have a local colleague who's running for local DA, and he is convinced that Vice President Harris is going to win gangbusters because particularly the percentage of women who have come out to vote in early voting in our local county, he's just screaming it from the rooftops, and he's very excited about those numbers. So if that tracks nationally, we should see a landslide. And I don't know that that will happen in a margin race, but he's a pretty smart guy, and he knows elections very well. So that's his prediction, and it's interesting to hear that at this juncture.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Here's the Julia Roberts voiced ad your turn honey in the one place in America where women still have a right to choose you can vote any way you want and no one will ever know did you make the right choice sure did honey and no one will ever know. Did you make the right choice?
Starting point is 02:13:48 Sure did, honey. Remember, what happens in the booth stays in the booth. Vote Harris-Walls. Vote Common Good is responsible for the contents of this ad. Ha-ha! Oh, I love it. It's driving them crazy. We're going to show you the TikTok ad that's going viral. But I want to show you all this here.
Starting point is 02:14:12 This happened in Orangeburg, South Carolina. Well, this racist white SOB lost his mind. And what pisses me off the most, that it was all these women, these black women in the polling booth. I wish that was a brother who was in a brother who could have clocked his ass. Y'all, watch. This is not, y'all, a fake video. This is a real video. What's wrong, Matt? I was going to say that tall sister was about
Starting point is 02:14:35 to give him the work, so it didn't necessarily need to be a brother. She was ready. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was ready to give him that good work. She was ready to roll. So, folks, yeah, yeah. The watch was right. Give him that good work. She was ready to roll. So roll a video so people can see what we're talking about. You fucking bitch.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Oh, wow. There's no reason for you to do that, sir. Wow. Listen, don't cry. This is my motherfucking right. Wow. That's the reason? Yeah, I want to see you too. Wow. That's it, don't cross that line. This is my motherfucking right. Wow. Why is it defending me? It's like it's defending me. All right then, shut the hell up and let me vote.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Okay, okay, Jay. We ain't got nothing else to say. We ain't got nothing else to say. We can't answer. We're going to move on. Next thing you guys know. I'll show you what. There it is right there.
Starting point is 02:15:18 No, no, no, no, no. No, no. Wow. Don't push. Don't push. Don't push. Don't push. Don't push. Don't push. Don't push. Don. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
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Starting point is 02:16:00 Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. That sister threw the dukes up. She was like, yo, you want to jump? Jump. Yeah. Not only that, Roland, they were clearly in the right. They were clearly in the right because he was wearing a campaign hat.
Starting point is 02:16:47 And in a lot of states, much like Georgia as well, you cannot wear any kind of campaign paraphernalia. And so this is one of those reasons why I'm so excited that we are demonstrating that whatever the campaign, Trump campaign team want to bring, we're going to meet them where they are. And all this hype and all this bravado, we're strong and we can do what we want. Clearly, this has gone viral. And this video is demonstrating that women are standing up even against a white man in South Carolina. Again, Matt, the law is the law.
Starting point is 02:17:33 You cannot wear campaign material in, first of all, there are rules. You have a certain number of feet away where you can have it called electioneering. And that's called electioneering. He was in the wrong. He decided to call the woman a bitch, cuss them out. And they were like, no, you ain't voting. Yeah, you're exactly right. I went to vote the other day and I had my phone out, you know, sending an email or something. And I was promptly told I had to put my phone away. I mean, there are rules and obviously you should adhere to them. And I did adhere to it. And, you know, this is really less a symptom of what the rules are and more the fact that people who
Starting point is 02:18:13 are determined to not follow the rules and who are determined to say that it's a crooked process are not going to follow the rules and say it's a crooked process unless they win. We know that that's coming. But this, you but this abject violence is just never going to be defensible. And I want to really make sure we address that. Look, there should have been other people standing up, but these women were more than enough in this situation. You don't need a man there. You needed these women doing exactly what they did, which is stand up against what they know was an injustice. And I want to recommend, rather, take back, let me say, one statement I made. And it was not just one sister.
Starting point is 02:18:49 There were actually three that were really involved in making sure that he did not get to brutalize that woman. So that's important that we empower people. As Derek said, look, we've got to meet them where they are. We obviously cannot condone violence, but we also cannot condone people going and being violent and cowering, because that's a lot of times what a bully wants, right? Sometimes you've got to punch a bully in the nose, let them know they can't get away with what they're doing. And that's what this guy
Starting point is 02:19:13 wanted to do. He came with a Let's Go Brandon hat. We know that that's political. He was told to take it off, but he did not even legitimize these women as having the authority to tell him what he could do. And that's the crux of the problem. So people like that have to be put in their place. And I'm glad that these women did that. Mike? Yeah, you know, I'm glad that situation did not escalate farther. He was definitely in the wrong.
Starting point is 02:19:44 I read the article about that. Yeah, he had a Let's Go Brandon hat, which tells me who he's voting for. And, you know, it's interesting that this took place in South Carolina because that's where the Civil War started. But, you know, just just the sheer ignorance that he that he showed, you know, if he just took the hat off, left it outside, put it in a trash can, what have you, you know, it wouldn't have been a problem. But he wanted to argue with them, cuss them out. So you know, I know at some polls, like when I voted earlier, I voted Tuesday here in Detroit, they had at least one police officer there. So, you know, hopefully at this precinct,
Starting point is 02:20:26 if they don't normally have at least one person representing law enforcement there, they'll do that. So to keep things like this from escalating. Indeed, indeed. All right, folks, this is the TikTok video. I was telling you all about that. A lot of young women have been sharing all across TikTok as well as Instagram and other platforms. I'll admit it. I did try and fuck her. She was married. No, no, Nancy. No, this was and I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, I'll show you where that have some nice furniture. I took her out furniture.
Starting point is 02:21:07 I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there. And she was married. And all of a sudden, I see her. She's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look. I've got to use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful. I just start kissing them. It it's like a magnet i don't even wait and when you're a star they let you do it you can do anything whatever you want grab them by the pussy i can do anything pull the head so uh again a lot of these young women had never heard that tape. They've been sharing it. You hear what this man had to say. You hear.
Starting point is 02:21:48 And here's the thing. Just remind people, you know, Derek, you know, looking back, it was so many Republicans who were shocked, who were who blasted that. Oh, my God. I could never support a man who does that. I have daughters. I have wives, whatever. And guess what? They all did.
Starting point is 02:22:05 They all have been kissing his ass since then, and now they are running behind him. And it shows you what I said on ABC This Week three years ago. They have no morals, no values, no principles, no integrity, no ethics. It's all about naked power. You're exactly right, Roland. And think about it. When that video surfaced, that was October 2016. And we all thought that was the October surprise and he was going to be torpedoed. But instead, 54 percent white women voted for him. 57 percent white men still voted for him. Lindsey Graham voted for him, right? Mitch McConnell voted for him. So all these individuals, as you just
Starting point is 02:22:55 outlined, clearly demonstrated that their morals, their ethics, their values, their principles were in the cellar. They were in the mud. And so he interpreted that win in 2016 after that tape as a mandate to be able to say and do what he will, and he has been doing it these last eight years. Michael? Yeah, Roland. Before this morning, because I heard him talk about it this morning, the video of the people from Gen Z
Starting point is 02:23:39 circulating the video online. And I saw a clip of that video that you just showed just now and before today i didn't realize that gen z didn't know about access hollywood you know so uh to see them react to this in fact a poll a poll a poll a poll came out saying that 38 percent of gen z had no idea about this Access Hollywood video. Wow. Well, and this is why social media is so powerful, because that type of information can be shared and traveled,
Starting point is 02:24:17 and they can share peer-to-peer also. But I think that resurfacing, then on top of them knowing about him paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet, not to reveal the affair between them and other things, him being found liable to sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll, all this comes together. And I think he's going to galvanize them. And at the same time, he's talking about sexually abusing women. He takes away a woman's right to choose as well with his three Supreme Court justices. So I think he's going to have hell to pay on November the 5th at the ballot box.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Matt? I mean, I echo their sentiments. I don't really know that i have too much to add beyond i'm surprised actually that people didn't know about that tape and you know like i said earlier with the ads it's just another thing that adds uh to a long list of things that he said like this and this is especially heinous i mean because he didn't think he was being most likely. I don't know if it's ever been reported on that. But he was talking as though there was nobody there recording. And that's a problem because obviously he says terrible, horrible things in public now. But some of that, or he's always said it, but some of that is normalized more so
Starting point is 02:25:40 because there has been no consequence to that rhetoric. And hopefully that consequence this time will be him not being elected for a second time. But it's interesting to me that people didn't already know that, especially with how long things exist on the Internet. Something goes up on the Internet now and stays there forever. So I'm surprised Gen Z on my ass had not seen that before. Again, I mean, I think one of the things that we forget is that, look, there are a lot of people, they're not watching news, they're not watching a lot of these sources. And then again, if you are in your 20s, this came out eight years ago, you weren't even
Starting point is 02:26:19 paying attention to the presidential race. And so that's the one beauty, though. Guess what? A video is always here. Gentlemen, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much, Derek, Matt and Michael. Thank you so very much. Folks, Vice President Kamala Harris sat down in a barber shop in Philadelphia, chopped it up with some brothers about some issues. We want to go ahead and show you that right now. And here's that conversation. But that's beside the point. I mean, you got all kinds of stories for the barbershop. I know. Clear up the misinformation about your background on criminal justice.
Starting point is 02:27:15 I was probably one of the first elected prosecutors in the country to say we need to have reentry initiatives. And I designed from scratch and wrote out a program that focused in particular on young men who are arrested for drug sales. My policy was that we were not going to jail people for simple marijuana. By the way, right now, I believe we need to just actually legalize the whole thing, and that's part of my platform. For sure.
Starting point is 02:27:42 Shakur over here is a dean of students, and he works with our young people every day. I'm from Philly, born and raised up part of my platform. For sure. Shakur over here is a dean of students and he works with our young people every day. I'm from Philly, born and raised uptown to be exact. I've been in education for 10 years. I started off as a teacher's assistant in a school in North Philly. Only 1% of teachers in public schools are black men. Yeah, for sure. 1%. The statistics are if a black child
Starting point is 02:28:05 has a black teacher by the end of third grade, they're like 13 percent more likely to go to college. More likely to succeed, yeah. To go to college. Mm-hmm. And, you know,
Starting point is 02:28:12 part of actually my focus and agenda is what we've got to do to create incentives. Mm-hmm. Which really are not necessarily incentives in terms of the will,
Starting point is 02:28:21 but also we don't pay teachers enough. Right. Student loan debt is an issue, you know, and thinking about how we create incentives to actually recruit and retain, because we know the benefit to overall society and in particular to our children.
Starting point is 02:28:38 You know, the beauty of human nature also is that when you set a high bar and you give people the chance to reach it, especially starting with our children, they will go for it every time. Every single time. If you give a child from the beginning of their life all reinforcement that tells them they can be anything and do anything and that they are loved and that they are special. That is one of the keys, I think, to what we can do for the children of
Starting point is 02:29:12 our families, our community. I think about it. I grew up at a time where Aretha was singing You Are Young, Gifted, and Black. Every signal we received told us that. Right.
Starting point is 02:29:26 Yeah. And, you know, we weren't particularly special, but everybody told us we was. Right. And we believed them. But what we were talking about is representation and why it matters. That's right.
Starting point is 02:29:35 Being able to see yourself as a heroic figure. Yeah, right. Everybody feels lonely. Everybody feels like just things aren't going your way. And when you look around, the way that society is being constructed the way that it's just everything is so against you no matter who you are you're going to have to hit the same roadblocks in life as a black man you know it was about two weeks ago
Starting point is 02:29:57 you released your plan for black men and first let me say thank you for doing it i loved it but it's based on work i've been doing for years, by the way. Exactly. But a lot of times, brothers don't feel seen. Yeah, but understandably. And so literally having a plan that says, black men, this is for you, was extremely important. What we're seeing is getting more brothers to actually understand what's in the plan.
Starting point is 02:30:21 But you also talked about other things. I mean, I read the plan. Oh, I think it was nine pages. So, for example, to your point, I also know history to understand why people feel the way they do right now. And it's based on fact.
Starting point is 02:30:34 You look at World War II. Okay. The people who went to fight that war, who were predominantly men, went to go fight that war. They came back, and America called them the greatest generation because they did such an incredible job. And so many gave their lives for it. So
Starting point is 02:30:51 the policy was we should invest in the greatest generation. They've done so much for our country. And one of the things that we did as policy to create federal programs to help them, including giving an incredible infusion of resources into helping people buy homes, to become homeowners. Right. But of course, we still had, at that time, incredible racism within the institutions. Right. So in spite of a policy that was supposed to benefit everyone,
Starting point is 02:31:24 which boosted a lot of people, our black servicemen did not benefit from that boost as much as others did. So you just look at these different moments in time, right? You look at redlining. I mean, it happened here in Philly. It happened all over the country, which is black people who are ready to buy homes in areas where they could then build the wealth, right, were not allowed to buy in those places. And today, black families are 40% less likely to own their homes than others. Right.
Starting point is 02:31:57 So part of my plan and policy is recognizing that to give people a $25,000 down payment assistance if they're a first-time home buyer, which just helps people literally get their foot in the door. And then folks will save up. They'll do what they do to make the mortgage. Part of my plan is a $6,000 child tax credit for the first year of your child's life. Because as we know, the vast majority of our parents, young fathers and mothers, want to parent their children well, but don't always have the resources to do it. Part of my plan is about dealing with black men's health.
Starting point is 02:32:34 I mean, we know the statistics. First of all, black people are 60% more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes. When we talk about our men, like twice as likely to be diagnosed with diabetes. When we talk about our men, like twice as likely to die from things like colon cancer and prostate cancer. I lost my wife last month to colon cancer. I know you did.
Starting point is 02:32:55 So when you talk about colon cancer. I know you did. And I'm so sorry. I appreciate that. But the truth is. I lost my mother to colon cancer. You're so right. We have to utilize our
Starting point is 02:33:05 platforms to make sure that people understand early screening early detection and for brothers like we'll come in the barbershop we'll talk about everything else but we won't talk about health care yeah we won't talk about those things that could mean life or death. That's exactly right. And the quality of life too. Yes. Right? I know and see and understand the dimensions of life that we are talking about when we talk about our men. And it's about home ownership. It's about being a business person.
Starting point is 02:33:38 It's about having dreams. It's about having ambitions. It's about education. It's about health. And yes, it is about the election, but it's more than that, because part to the point that we've been talking about and you talked about so beautifully, people when people feel alone, it's very disempowering. Right. When you feel it's like you against the world, it's very disempowering. And I want people to know that they are not alone.
Starting point is 02:34:08 I tell people all the time, there's going to be a president, there's going to be members of Congress, there's going to be governors, there's going to be members of the General Assembly, there's going to be mayors of city council. The question that we have to ask ourselves as black men, are we going to have a say in who those people are going to be? That's exactly right. And when you don't vote, those folks still get elected. You just don't get to decide.
Starting point is 02:34:28 That's exactly right. So I wrote with Cory Booker the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act when I was in the Senate. And there were a bunch of folks who did not want it to happen and worked against it. And we still need to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act. But they worked against it. And then those need to pass the George Floyd Justice in Pleasing Act. Okay. But they worked against it. And then those are the same people who will quietly suggest,
Starting point is 02:34:49 see, you shouldn't vote because nothing happens when you do. Because there are forces that are also trying to obstruct the good work. And here's the thing, though. If you don't vote, then you're not deciding who's in the positions of power to make decisions like, do we pass the George Floyd justice? You see the vicious cycle? So you don't vote, and then you end up taking yourself
Starting point is 02:35:13 out of the game. And we should never take ourselves out of the game. There's a national spotlight every four years around the big ticket, the presidential election, everything like that. It's also very important to make sure that you're voting in your local elections also. Your judges, your state reps, your city council people, and also being engaged in that process so that you understand how all of these different functions work together.
Starting point is 02:35:37 To get the word out, whether people vote for me or not, whether they vote or not, although we want to encourage them to vote for me. Everybody should vote. But let's get the word out so people also understand what they have a right to expect and demand. Because this is not about doing anybody a favor. It's literally the right thing to do.
Starting point is 02:35:57 Period. Well, you survived. You survived the barbershop. I had no question about that. Were you worried? I know. I mean, you know, I knew you was going to do it. I think you were worried.
Starting point is 02:36:08 No, I wasn't. Are you all right? You were Harris. You were Harris. That's how we built. Let's thank the vice president for hanging out with us a little bit. Thank you for letting me come into the barbershop. I know what a sacred space this is.
Starting point is 02:36:20 I mean, it's so funny. I was going to say to all of you. Well, but this is where America's news gets told. No, for sure. Right, like all the, well, but this is where America's news gets told. No, for sure. Right, like all the press were here. This is where America's news gets told. All right, folks, that is it for us here in Mobile, Alabama. I'm about to pack things up.
Starting point is 02:36:40 We'll be flying out at 6 a.m. to Michigan tomorrow. Governor Wes Moore is having a rally in Flint, Michigan. We're going to try to get there in time to broadcast that for you on Sunday. Vice President Kamala Harris will be on the campus of Michigan State University in Lansing, Michigan. We'll be there as well. And then Minnesota Governor Tim Walz will be holding a rally in Detroit on Monday. We'll be broadcasting that and doing our show from there as well. Then we all fly back Tuesday morning to Washington, D.C. We'll be holding it down
Starting point is 02:37:09 off our election night coverage in our Black Star Network studios there in D.C. We will have a camera and a reporter on the campus of Howard University doing live hits for us there as well. So a lot going on, folks. Four days left. If you were able to vote early in your state, please, please go to the polls and absolutely vote. We are very clear. We are 100 percent down, 10 toes down with Vice President Kamala Harris and Governor Tim Walz. And so let's not have a squeaker, folks. Let's have a resounding victory for both of them. And so we're going to keep this thing, keep pushing information on social media, keep calling, keep talking, keep sharing, keep explaining to people.
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Starting point is 02:39:37 Folks, that's it. I am going to get me something to eat and going to sleep because I got to be up at 4 a.m. to catch the 6 a.m. flight to Michigan. Folks, y'all be well. I shall see y'all tomorrow. Holla! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm Martin. More time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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