#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Parole Denied for Crosley Green, SCOTUS Rulings, GA Police Use Black Man's Pic for Target Practice

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

6.22.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Parole Denied for Crosley Green, SCOTUS Rulings, GA Police Use Black Man's Pic for Target Practice The Florida Commission on Offender Review denies parole to Crosley Green, a man who already served 32 years in prison for a murder he did not commit. We will speak with one of his attorneys about what happens now he will probably not get released until he's 97.  As the first anniversary of the Dobbs decision approaches, lawmakers introduce new abortion legislation. We will tell you how Democratic lawmakers want to ensure women still have the right to choose with the Abortion Justice Act. The Supreme Court released decisions in several critical cases today, including denying access to clean water to the Navajo Nation. We'll examine how the decision will affect Colorado's Indigenous people. In a special edition of Black & Missing, we will highlight the ongoing search for Daniel Robinson, who disappeared two years ago. His father joins us on the eve of the second anniversary of his son's disappearance from an Arizona desert.  A white woman's controversial comments about Juneteenth are going viral. Ya'll know I have something to say to all the white people who don't get Juneteenth. Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox  http://www.blackstarnetwork.com The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Florida Commission on Offender Review had denied parole to Crossley Green, a man who already has served 32 years in prison for a murder he did not commit. We will speak with one of his attorneys about what is next for Mr. Green. Also today, the Supreme Court issued several rulings, including one that is absolutely strange. And it shows you how despicable Clarence Thomas is a defendant wrongfully charged, wrongfully sentenced. The Supreme Court goes, sorry, dude, not our problem the court screwed up. You got to stay in jail. Judge Katonji Brown Jackson issues a blistering 50-page dissent.

We'll explain to you how nonsensical this conservative Supreme Court is. Also, first anniversary of the Dodd decision, overturning Roe v. Wade, and progressives remain focused on trying to get the pro-choice, get abortion back as federal law. Also, on today's show, we will highlight for you the ongoing search for Daniel Robinson, who disappeared two years ago.

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can't get out. That's right. First of all, the Florida Commission on Offender Review denied his parole. Now, this means that he is not going to be paroled until 2054, when he will be 97 years old. Who appoints this board? The governor.

Who's the governor? Republican Ron DeSantis. Folks, elections. Why can't the Florida Supreme Court intervene? Guess what happened? A couple of years ago, three liberal justices all retired around the same time. DeSantis filled those positions. Now there is a hardcore block of conservatives on the state Supreme Court who will do what DeSantis wants to do. Joining us right now, folks, is Keith Harrison. He is one of the attorneys for Crossley Green. He joins us here on Roller Martin Unfiltered. So, Keith,

what can happen now? The federal court said he got to go back. They can't do anything. What now? Well, thank you, Rolla, for covering this important case. And, you know, this is a case where you have an innocent black man who spent 19 years on Florida's death row, total of 32 years in 2021 that he was wrongfully convicted. But that ruling was overturned by the 11th Circuit, and he was released pending that appeal. He was out for two years, was a model citizen, fully employed, went to church every Sunday. And, you know, during the two years he was released, certainly he should have been a perfect candidate for parole. But the Parole Commission in Florida, we had a hearing yesterday. We argued his case, but we were unsuccessful. And, you know, what is next? We are going to continue to fight for his freedom. We're going to continue to fight for justice on behalf of Crosmency as an option that would have to be approved by the governor.

And so, you know, we are going to pursue every possible avenue to try to get this innocent man freed. Now, let's go back. A federal court, a federal judge ruled that he was that he was innocent. So, first of all, what are the federal what the federal judge actually say? So Judge Dalton, a federal court judge in Florida, ruled that crucial evidence, evidence pointing to Crosley Green's innocence, had been withheld by the prosecutor, not turned over to the defense. And one of the bedrock rules of our criminal justice system is if there's evidence of innocence, it has to be turned over to the defense. The federal court ruled that he could not conceive of evidence that was more exculpatory, more crucial than the evidence that was withheld in this case. And the evidence that was withheld were the prosecutor's notes that the first two

responding police officers that got to the scene surveyed all the evidence, and they concluded, because of what they saw and what they observed, that there was no Black guy, as the surviving witness said, and that essentially Crosley Green was innocent. This was withheld from the defense, even though one of these officers testified. I mean, imagine what powerful cross-examination evidence that would have been. That would have transformed two white police officers from witnesses for the prosecution into witnesses for the defense. But it wasn't turned over. Federal court said that's unconstitutional. I can't imagine anything that would have been more material to the defense in this case.

The 11th Circuit, two years later, really over two years later, ruled that, yes, this evidence had been withheld, but it would not have mattered ultimately to the case. They ruled that it was immaterial. They reinstated his conviction. Yes, believe it. I mean, it was hard to believe. And then we appealed to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court did not hear the case, even though we had over 100 law professors from across the country file briefs supporting our case. We had over 20 former state and federal prosecutors supporting our case. We had five former state Supreme Court judges from states like Texas and Missouri supporting our case, but the Supreme Court did not take the case.

So that is why Crosby Green had to go back to prison after having his conviction overturned and leading a productive life as a model citizen for two years. he had to go back to prison. And then yesterday, despite an unblemished record for 34 years, both in prison and out of prison, the Florida Commission denied his parole. So you said that the only route is clemency, but that has to be granted by the governor. That is one of the routes. There are other, the parole commission, there's still room for the parole commission to do the right thing. And we're going to continue to advocate as much as we can before the parole commission. And, you know, we're going to see what other remedies might be available.

But clemency is certainly one of those remedies. It's the remedy of last resort for any criminal defendant. And, you know, we're not going to leave any stones unturned in our efforts to get, you know, to get Mr. Green's freedom. Keith Harrison, we certainly appreciate you joining us, updating us on this case. Thanks a bunch. Roland, we appreciate you following this important story.

All right, thanks a bunch. Folks, got to go to a break. We come back, we'll talk about the Supreme Court case that dovetails with this and how this Supreme Court, this conservative Supreme Court has essentially said, hey, if the federal court screwed up, suck it up, deal with it. A man stays in prison and he's been

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And the case concerned two statutes which provides post-conviction remedies for federal prisoners. He was convicted in 2000 on two counts of unlawful firearm possession by a felon and one count of making false statements to acquire a firearm. Now what's crazy here is that he contends that the federal courts got the sentencing wrong, got the conviction wrong. So he felt. That he should be.

Resentence. The courts. They understand. That the federal courts. Made a mistake. They actually made a mistake. But they went. Sorry dude.

Can't help you. Judge Kataji Brown Jackson, folks, issued a blistering 50-page decision. I'm going to read some of that from you in just a second. I want to bring in my panel right now to talk about this, because, again, when you look at the previous story and this one, they all go together. Greg Carr, Department of Afro-American Studies, Howard University out of D.C., Recy Colbert, host of the Recy Colbert Show on Sirius XM Radio out of D.C., Candace Kelly, legal analyst out of South Orange, New Jersey. Candace, I'll start with you.

How unbelievable and ridiculous is this Supreme Court decision? It's very ridiculous because of the fact that it sets a precedent where somebody essentially just can't challenge a conviction that is wrong. In this situation, you had a gentleman that he did not know that he had even committed a felony on record. And when he went to go buy a gun, again, he didn't know. So when he bought the gun, he didn't even know that it was a felony for him to buy a gun. And so the law states that anyone who knowingly has a felony cannot go and do something like buy a gun, for example, because that creates another felony. And that's where the sentencing came in. He challenged this. And the Supreme Court said essentially that, well,

even though the law says that you didn't know about the felony and that was OK, you're actually going to still stay in jail. The sentence is going to remain the same. And as Katonji Brown Jackson wrote in her 50-page opinion, as you said, she said essentially this sets up so that anybody who believes that they have been wrongfully convicted, they just don't stand a chance on having the opportunity to go back to the courts and saying, I didn't know, or this wasn't even a law that was on the book. And so those are some of the issues that are coming up in this particular Supreme Court case. The overall effect is that people who are behind bars that are innocent, they get to stay behind bars because of the Supreme Court's decision.

I'm reading a piece here, Greg, from Slate.com by Leah Littman. In fact, she was actually her work was quoted by Judge Katonji Brown Jackson in this. And what she wrote is, again, when you think about this case, you just sort of shake your head and go, what in the hell are these people thinking? What are they thinking? As Candace said, Judge Katonji Brown-Jackson, in her dissent, she said the opinion unjustifiably closes off all avenues for certain defendants to secure meaningful consideration

of their innocence claims. What was crazy about this is that, and this is what she said, essentially the case involves this scenario. What if it turns out that the federal courts that heard your criminal case made a mistake? And as a result of the court's mistake, you were convicted of something that isn't actually a crime at all because federal law doesn't prohibit what you did. Or as a result of the court's mistake, you were sentenced to more time in prison than the law says you could be sentenced to. Can a federal court later correct the error in a

federal habeas corpus proceeding when you challenge your conviction or sentence? Clarence Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Roberts, Barrett,

they go. Sorry. You're behind going to stay in prison. This is when we talk about how elections matter, because who became president is actually who appointed Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett, Greg. Yeah, absolutely. And also Clarence Thomas. I mean, in the sense that these members of the Supreme Court, most of them were appointed

by presidents that lost the popular vote. Of course, once again, indicting the silly Electoral College. But it is consistent. That's one thing you have to say. I mean, we talked to Corey Robin, the author of The Enigma of Clarence Thomas at the Black Table. And one thing, and I recommend if folks want to understand the mind of Clarence Thomas, that they read Corey Robin's book, Professor Robin. Clarence Thomas is very clear when it comes to these kind of issues. And as you named, those justices are right with him. They prefer finality when it comes to sentencing over accuracy. Justice Brown Jackson, in fact,

opens her dissent. And you see what Kataji Brown Jackson is doing, by the way. She's doing this with the 14th Amendment and the other cases. And I anticipate, I think we all anticipate she's going to do that with the affirmative action case when it comes down, the SFFA cases. She is referring back to not only the statutes, and in this case, it's the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act. She's going not only to the language of the statutes, but she's going to the legislative record to see what Congress intended. And what she is saying here, consistent with the way statutory interpretation, at least as it's taught in every law school I'm aware of in the United States, is that when you

look at the record, this is ironically, probably could be considered an originalist interpretation of the statute. It's very clear what Congress intended. She says what Clarence Thomas and them are doing is reading negative intent into the statute, making it up, and basically saying that you've closed off this any prisoner's right to habeas corpus to file an additional appeal. Now, the irony is, and I'll end with this, is that while they're making it up because they believe in two things, one, finality over accuracy.

The courts did it. I don't care if it's wrong. It's the courts. And by the way, that also apparently applies to them flying around on private jets and doing everything else. They believe they're above the law. That's number two. But also, like you said, the connection with Crosley Green's case is also clear. When

the Florida court could not get around the fact that, in fact, they had not had, the Florida prisons hadn't had custody of Green, that custody was interrupted or told by a couple of years when the lower court ruled for him. Technically, that means that the parole board, the PPRD, was supposed to factor that in in his parole.

Instead of recognizing their own regulation, the Florida regulation that would require them to do that, they simply ruled that they would take no action on that. In other words, if we can't get around the rule, we'll just pretend like it doesn't apply. So that's another avenue of appeal for Greene. But you see what's at play here. This is pure politics, as you the, the, the journalist writes this, um, in her piece of slate, uh, Risi. It says, it's also important to note that the pattern here last term in one of the more

ghastly Supreme court decisions, the same 63 majority from Jones ruled for Arizona in a case where the state had loudly and proudly argued that, quote, innocence is not enough to remedy a conviction for innocent persons convicted in state courts. In that case, incarcerated individuals sought to introduce evidence that they didn't commit the crime they were convicted of or were not even eligible for the death sentence they received. One of the individuals, Barry Jones, had successfully persuaded two federal courts and four judges that he probably didn't commit the crime for which he had been sentenced to death. The court said too bad. It's illegal for a federal court to consider evidence of his innocence, even if that evidence wasn't ever introduced

because the state appointed him an ineffective lawyer. After the 2022 midterm election resulted in a Democratic attorney general, Barry Jones successfully, let me repeat that, Recy. After the 2022 midterm election resulted in a Democratic attorney general, Barry Jones, successfully negotiated a plea agreement resulting in his release, though this Supreme Court would have allowed the state to execute him. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that

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it's obvious that the Supreme Court and the court system is largely illegitimate. It is not about justice. Innocence is beside the point, particularly when the people that are most falsely convicted tend to be Black people, tend to be poor people. So the fact that, you know, there might be some white people who are denied their constitutional rights or denied their ability to prove their innocence, they're willing to sacrifice those people because they feel like, well, you probably did something anyway. And unfortunately, it's going to be Black and brown people that continue to be targeted, that continue to be harassed and falsely accused that are going to have to bear the brunt of this. So as you just pointed out,

and as the writer just pointed out in that article, it's going to come down to who's governor and can evaluate clemency agreements. Who is the attorney general? Who are your district attorneys? Those are the people that can go back and renegotiate some of these things, who can decide not to, when a circuit court or a district court overturns your conviction, not to go back and retry you or not to appeal it to the higher court to get them to reinstate the conviction. So there are multiple levels of ways where people can influence these injustices happening. But unfortunately, people are too complacent and too checked out and too uneducated and unwilling to be educated about civics and those different levers. And so we have now seen a situation where undeniably the courts that are supposed to be the arbiters of justice, which never really have been, are no longer part of the equation, as long

as we have an illegitimate, conservative Supreme Court and all of these Trump judges still on the bench. Candace, I can't remember the particular case, but a previous case came up where Scalia, Thomas and others, where they basically said that, oh, even if you're innocent, if you've exhausted all of your appeals and everything and everything was done correctly meaning the law was followed the law was followed and you got a chance to do your appeal even if there is undeniable evidence you did not commit the crime sorry all the dots dot eyes were, T's were crossed, so therefore, there's nothing for you. It is as if what these conservative Supreme Court justices are saying, damn morals, damn values, damn principles, and forget what's right and wrong if we follow all the rules. Sorry, you got to stay in prison or you die. Roland, these are the basic principles

that mothers and fathers teach their young Black children, men and women, young females and males, the basics of the Constitution. You are innocent until proven guilty. You deserve due process. You deserve to be heard in the whole process. You, according to the Brady rule, and this is what people should look up, Brady versus Maryland, decided by the Supreme Court, you have to introduce exculpatory evidence to the other side. Evidence is very important in all of this.

That's how you win or lose your case. That's all we know about the justice system. It's not what you thought. It's not paperwork that was maybe lost. It's what you can prove in court. So how in the world can this man, Marcus Jones, have all the information that he needs on a federal level, proven himself throughout the court system, and still be found guilty. This has nothing to do with what the Constitution was created to do. It doesn't live up to the basic principles

that every layperson these days knows about. It makes absolutely no sense. I do not see how the Supreme Court is getting away with this. It locks people out of their opportunity to bring forth DNA evidence and say, it wasn't me. It locks people out of the opportunity to say this piece of evidence, just as Marcus said, was proved in the federal court on the lower levels, that this was not me. I don't know where this is going, but this is not what the Constitution was created for. Now we're at the Supreme Court. Now what does he do? This is the end.

This is the worst precedent. I mean, today was just a day of bad precedent for the Supreme Court. But this is one of the worst because this sets a precedent for everybody who was in jail, especially African-Americans, especially African-American males, when we look at the numbers, who are saying, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. Even another decision, and I think that we're going to get into that case, in terms of, you know, someone who was, we talked about it earlier, actually,

someone who got out of jail, proved his innocence, went back in. So this is something that, you know, we need to pay attention to. And as you said, it starts with our vote. It starts with the people who have to make sense of the law to make the right decision for those people to get their due process and know that innocent means innocent and innocent means you get out of jail, Roland. You get out of jail. I don't understand it. When I talk about voting, Recy, when I talk about the power of that ballot,

and I listen to people say, oh, Biden picking Judge Katonji Brown Jackson, that's performative. He just wanted a black woman. Oh, all of these judges, they don't really mean anything. Just yesterday the U.S. Senate confirmed a NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund lawyer previously an ACLU lawyer. Literally folks who are going from law right to the federal bench and I need black people

who are out here saying stupid stuff who say, ah, ain't no big deal ain't no big deal if Trump gets in let me be clear what the Supreme Court said today, it is precedent. That means if you're black behind or your uncle, your nephew or your cousin or your niece or your aunt, if that is them, this conservative Supreme Court has said, even if the federal court screwed up, even if the statute was messed up, we're not going to fix it. You can't do anything. And although you are absolutely right. You get to stay in prison. I don't see how anybody in their right mind could support any Republican candidate who wants to put more people like this on the federal bench.

It's unconscionable. And yet people are still not connecting the dots between how the judicial branch impacts our everyday lives, how the judicial branch, how now this particular Supreme Court has taken away a constitutional right with the Roe v. Wade. This is the anniversary of that decision. They have shown that they are hostile to the citizenship and humanity of many of the citizens of this country. And your citizenship is largely going to depend on where you live, what kind of state you live in, which party is

in control of your legislature and of your executive branch. And so if you, for some reason, are still not connecting the dots, are still not listening, is still not clicking to you, what's happening on the federal level and how that is now a generational issue that we have to deal with having this conservative court, at a bare minimum, you should be paying attention to what's happening on the local level. The prosecutors that are deciding to re-prosecute these cases, to bring these frivolous cases to the judges, the judges that are letting this evidence go through, that are involved in this sentencing, the governors who choose or choose not to pardon, grant clemency, take

people off a death row. There are Republican governors under the Trump administration that went on a killing spree when it came to executing people on death row. And this is the policy of the Republican Party, period. Even the most reasonable Republican, even the least racist Republican out there is still running on this kind of policy platform. They're still running on appointing conservative right-wing judges. They take their marching orders from the Federalist wing. So people need to wake the fuck up. This isn't theoretical anymore. This isn't hypothetical. It's happening right now in front of our faces.

I'm sitting here, Greg, and I'm reading because, of course, Clarence Thomas wrote the majority opinion. He goes consistent with the Eighth Circuit's reasoning. We hold that 2255 saving clause does not permit a prisoner asserting an intervening change in statutory interpretation to circumvent AEDPA's restrictions on second or successive 255 motions by filing in 2241. So they're saying, oh, no, no, no, you can't file two. No, you can't file two. That's not right. I mean, this is sort of like

showing up to the bank to pay your mortgage at 4 and 5.01. They go, I'm sorry. I know you got the money, but no, you didn't get here at 5 o'clock. Sorry. So we're going to snatch your house. They literally are saying, sorry, dude, because you don't get to file two in a row, even though you can show that you're innocent, you got to stay in prison. This man has been in prison for 23 years. These people are evil. Clarence Thomas, Samuel Leto, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Roberts, Barrett.

This is immoral and illegal and shameful for these Catholics on the Supreme Court who clearly don't care about the Catholic Church when it comes to their conservative, heinous rulings. Greg, final comment. Well, yeah, I think they care about the Catholic Church. They care about their Catholic Church. They don't believe the same God you believe in. Samuel Leto, with his onward Christian soldiers approach to Christianity, is a white nationalist. And Clarence Thomas is doing the bidding of his little white nationalist crew. But, I mean, to use your metaphor, Roland,

it's really as if you showed up at 459 to pay your mortgage, and they locked the doors a minute early by mistake, and then after finding out the mistake, they still didn't let you pay your mortgage. You didn't show up at 501. You showed up before the bank closed, but they locked the door a little early. And after they discovered their mistake, after you lost your house, you came back and they said, oh, yeah, yeah, we did. Too bad you're still homeless.

Kataji Brown Jackson, in the final page of her dissent, she takes Thomas to the woodshed and says, in other words, as I see it, the negative inference that the majority makes today rests on nothing, and certainly nothing that derives from Congress's intent. She says, I'm reading the statute, I'm reading the legislative history, and what I see is that they did not intend what you're saying. In fact, they intended the opposite. And she ends her dissent in a way that is reminiscent of Katonji Brown-Jackson, of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

She calls on Congress to act. She says what they have done today creates an opening for Congress to step in and fix the problem. Clearly, finally, what Katonji Brown-Jackson is doing is laying the groundwork for the long game. When the majority swings the other way, watch this. Her dissents are going to be used to reverse some of this mess, but only if we get to the ballot box. They're afraid of too much justice, as Justice Brennan said in McCleskey v. Kemp, the death penalty case. And the only way

you're going to rein this in now is the legislative and executive branches, and Brown Jackson said as much in her dissent. Folks, I cannot explain to you enough how crucial this is when you talk about black America. Do not take lightly next year's election because every Republican candidate, they don't want a six to three conservative majority. They want it to be nine to zero. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstone Network. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.

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Officials involved in the search said the Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications. According to a U.S. defense official, shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site. U.S. defense officials said. It says that, quote, the U.S. Navy conducted an analysis of acoustic data and detected an anomaly consistent with an implosion or explosion in the general immediately shared with the incident commander to assist the ongoing search and rescue mission. The Navy asked if the specific system used not be named, citing national security concerns. So the reality here, Recy, is that U.S. Navy has known for several days that this thing imploded. Of course, so they had what essentially was a futile search and rescue mission for these five folks.

For the life of me, I've been looking at some of these stories, Recy. For the life of me, I don't know how in the hell anybody in their right mind could have gotten on. If you are using something that's controlled by a game controller you can buy at best buy yeah ain't no way in hell i'm i'm getting on that thing it has to be that i mean i mean just literally the the i i i can't folk have been making jokes. Let's be real clear. Five people died here. But this is this. This is like just playing Russian roulette with your life.

Getting in this in this in this tin can. Yeah, you know, y'all got to stop trusting white people so much that just because they say they know what they're doing, that that means that they know what they're doing. Personally, I'm not even trying a new dish at a restaurant without checking Yelp reviews first, so I don't know how the hell you go on a whole ass $250,000 a seat exploration mission without checking YouTube, Yelp, somebody. Somebody was saying something about how this ain't really the look to go through,

but I don't know if it's a combination of hubris or, like I said, misplaced faith in white meritocracy and intelligence. But unfortunately, people have paid with their lives. As far as the U.S. Navy knowing about this, good, because we spent a shit ton of money on our national defense. So I would be surprised if they weren't able to detect something like this. But I understand why with it being a highly classified technology that probably led to this discovery, why that wouldn't be something that they would be announcing off the rooftops. I'm sure if Donald Trump were the president, he doesn't give a damn about classified secrets or materials. He probably would have been screaming it from the rooftops.

But I think that there was a little bit of kabuki theater, obviously, knowing this information that the U.S. Navy had. But, you know, they wanted to be sure. And it's, this sounds probably crass, but it is a way of confirming that the technology they think that they have is actually working the way it's supposed to. So, I mean, that's not a fun thing to say, but the reality is it seems like whatever money we spent on that classified national security capability is money well spent. Candace, I saw this tweet from this woman, Kate Gardner. She said, I text my engineer dad about the Titan, and his reply is morbid, to say the least.

Engineers are very matter-of-fact. He wrote, yes, I've been following following it hope it's near or at the surface where it can be found more easily i think that if it's deep there's no hope haven't seen much discussion of any emergency plans to jettison balance and rise to the ocean surface horribly unsafe design no navigation system poor communication system exposed thrusters no inflatable flotation uh collar it rises, limited air supply, locked in, no way to get out, no way to get fresh air when on the surface. I'd be nervous taking it to deep end of a pool, never mind the 13,000 feet below the

surface in total blackness and cold and 6,000 pounds per square inch pressures. Interesting choices about life and death in air. Enough air for five people for four days or enough air for one person for 20 days. Who goes first and why and when? When you realize you need more than four days to be saved, does the irresponsible CEO go first? Does the billionaire offer to give billions to those who take their lives? Does everyone sacrifice to save the 18-year-old? What we now know is simply just imploded. It just blew up.

And what's crazy also here is the amount of attention, the amount of attention that was given to this five people. And you had 700 and 500 and 750 people who drowned. Another part of the world got virtually no coverage. Well, first of all, you're exactly right about that. And we have to look at the way that the media covers people, rich people versus people who don't have money. We pay a lot of attention to billionaires and we put them on a higher level than other people. First of all, my condolences because there are, what, four families who lost their lives because one was a father and son, right? So there were families who are grieving. But secondly, this really puts into question how people are actually

spending their money for certain experiences that they think, because they have money, that they should be doing. Should everybody be going into space? Should everybody be going to look at the Titanic, something that we have exhausted? It's been marketed. It's been exploited. It's been everything. We know about the Titanic.

Why are we going down there to look at the Titanic as if it's some new excursion? We have to think about the way that we are kind of making people go through various experiences in our offerings. People need to think twice. And just like Reese said, look at what you're getting into. You're getting into something that had so many questions around it. You put your seatbelt on in a car, but yet you get into a submarine where the only way you can get out is if somebody is on the outside. That doesn't make any sense. And I think that this is just an eye opener to the way that we sell and market things to people who have money. They have to take into consideration the reasonable, the reasonableness of what they are doing, because this, when you look at

everything was not reasonable. You know, I looked at a couple of interviews where the leader of this submarine, he was interviewed a couple of years ago on several stations, and even some of the reporters at the time were asking him, hey, you know, I'm looking around and some of this looks a little MacGyverish. Kind of rigged, do it yourself. Home Depot, like you said. What's going on here? There were a lot of questions that probably were raised that people just were not paying attention to, because this was someone who had the confidence and the wherewithal to say,

it's okay, and some billionaires on the other side, unfortunately, believed him. We've got to question these things to see whether or not they're reasonable. And that-that didn't happen here. Yeah. Hey, Greg, I saw one... I saw one video where the guy goes, yeah, I cut corners.

Those are not the words that I want to hear if I'm trying to go to the bottom of the ocean. No question. No question. And Hamish Harding had already been on the Challenger Deep to a place in the Pacific Ocean that's widely believed to be the deepest point in the world's oceans. Is it reckless? Of course. I remember the first time I went to South Africa, and I was looking at Table Mountain,

which is so high that in fact disappears into the clouds. So in the morning, you see literally the clouds in the sky on top of Table Mountain. They call it the tablecloth on the mountain. And talking with some local folk, and they were saying, you know, when these Europeans came here, the first thing they wanted to do was climb that mountain. And the Xhosa people, the people who live in that region, like, why in the hell would you want to go up the sheer cliff of that mountain? And of course, the European response is, you see, that's what separates us from y'all. We do reckless stuff in the name of

exploration and discovery. Now, on the positive side, what do you learn from this type of pushing the envelope? Because again, Harding had been to space. He bought a ticket on Blue Origin, right? He went up there. You find out things that can advance technology, can advance human capacity, maybe even can create devices that can discover the fact that your little thing imploded. Although the Navy, interestingly enough, the people who did it, who found out, reported to their commanding officers, and they narrowed the scope of the search, but they still didn't divulge, which is fascinating to me, which seems to me to signal perhaps that they knew they were dead. So let's not even rush it. We'll just let you know. But I think what we are faced with is not even not a

failure of technology. We're not faced with a question of political choices. This is a question of culture. How do you move through your life and existence? Those 700, perhaps as many as 700 people that you mentioned before that the Greek Coast Guard did not save because they were hoping perhaps that that little fisher boat would make it over to Italian waters and it would be Italy's problem and not theirs, is a cultural valuation of life. A billionaire's life is quite simply worth more than our lives. Why? Because we allow it to be. That's really, to me, the story, behind the story on this. Indeed.

All right, folks, gotta go to a quick break. We'll be right back on Rolling Mark, Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. On a next episode. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.

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It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush.

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honored the actor, activist, singer, humanitarian on the floor of the State Legislature. Here is what they said. Today, it is with heavy heart that we honor the life of Harry Belafonte. Harry Belafonte's legacy is representative of Harlem's legacy, one of a musician, performer, an artist, a humanitarian, and an advocate for civil rights. Born at Lying Inn Hospital in Harlem to Jamaican parents,

Harry Belafonte was an iconic figure for black people everywhere. Despite living under segregation, Harry Belafonte dutifully served his country in the U.S. Navy during World War II, aiding to defeat fascism and oppression abroad. Harry Belafonte shares a special connection to my district where not only was he native to,

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He was a key contributor in the 1961 Freedom Rides, supported voter registration drives, and helped organize the 1963 March on Washington. Belafonte was one of the pioneers of advocating for equitable contributions in our democracy. Like others today who champion these goals, Belafonte was persecuted during the McCarthy era Red Scare. With an increasing effort seeking to reverse the progress on voting expansion, Belafonte's teachings and advocacy are more necessary now than ever.

Belafonte's relentless commitment to human rights didn't stop at the injustices he experienced. He was an advocate for the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa, being a UNICEF goodwill ambassador, supporting the campaign against HIV and AIDS virus, actively campaigning to address climate change and opposing America's foreign imperialism. His life's work as an artist, activist, and role model has created the space for so many people, but his work must continue through all of us.

Belafonte is survived by his four children, Sherry, David, Adrienne, and Gina, his five grandchildren, Rachel, Brian, Maria, Serafina, and Amadeus, who all stated, to the world, he was a legend, but to us, he was dead. All right, folks, when we come back, Black and Missing will also give an update on a case that we talked about just two years ago where the father of a young man who disappeared is still demanding to find out what happened to his son. Also, Georgia police under fire for using black folks as target practice. We'll explain right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered

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Tomorrow marks, folks, the second year anniversary, if you will, when a black 25-year-old geologist disappeared after leaving a job site in Buckeye, Arizona. Daniel Robinson left his Jeep Renegade that was later found, left in his Jeep Renegade that was later found wrecked. His father has urgently looked for him for the last two years. David Robinson II is the president and founder of the Daniel Robinson Foundation, here to give us an update on the search for Daniel. Mr. Robinson, glad to have you here. It has been a trying two years for you and your family.

What's the latest? Yes, currently we did receive a new update from the Buckeye Police Department, the department that's in charge of my son's case. They put out a new report. That new report put out some new things that they wanted the public to know. Things about the test messages, the search history from my son's phone, as well as they feel they have the time that my son's phone was found in that ravine. As everybody probably remember, my son went missing on June the 23rd, and almost 30 days later, on July the 19th, his vehicle was found out in the ravine, farther out into that desert. But yes, they're putting those timelines together and tried to pinpoint what happened.

So what did they say his final text messages revealed? Well, the text is the search history. They was looking at the search history. For instance, they have one that says Temippi explosion that he was searching. They allegedly say he was searching. That's that's one thing. The only thing I have a problem with that is that we don't know who searched, been searching through St. Dane's phone. And if that's indeed was him. And also just saying Tippi bombs, searching of tippy explosion. It could be an article or something, a story that he heard and he was looking up.

So some of the things I have seen from the department will try to sensationalize my son's case. I can't say that with the new report. But my efforts is to get my son's case moved over to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office because I'm still holding forensics. I'm still holding the vehicle. I'm still holding the clothes that I found at the scene. Still trying to find out what happened with the red transfer paint came from. So I'm still pushing for those things. For folks who do not know about this case, just explain to folks as quickly as you can just really what happened with your son. He was out there.

He wasn't alone. So just explain to people what actually took place. Yes, thank you. My son, he's a geologist. He worked for a company called Matrix New World. They hired him on as a field geologist, also called a hydrogeologist. His job is very important to Arizona. Arizona have groundwater. It's a desert state. They have to have these waters to sustain and support communities being built. They had to

reduce at least 100 years of water. So his job is very important to determine if those wells can do so. He's out there on June 23rd to do his job. He met another person out off of Sun Valley Parkway. There's only one person there from another company called Weber Waterworks. The story of what happened to my son came from him. He said they met at nine o'clock. They got made it to the well site at 9 o'clock a.m. And about 9.15, my son waved off to him and disappeared to never be seen again. As you guys may know, again, his vehicle showed up almost 30 days later in Ravine out there in the desert, almost about a little over three miles away from that job site. His clothing was allegedly on the ground. The clothing was there three feet away in a pile.

But there's no evidence of my son being there, but there definitely was no trace of him leaving that area as well. So my son has not been found to this day. We're still looking for him. There's been little efforts, in my opinion, from law enforcement. I have done 48 weeks of searches, covered over 35,000 acres of land. We're volatile. We found human remains. We solved the case for the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office, and we're still fighting for answers for Daniel. One of the things that we raised before is, you know, in terms of support from his company.

Last time we talked to you, it was minimal. Have you heard from them? Are they continuing to offer you assistance in helping for your son, or have they just simply moved on? I look at it as moving on. You know, the only thing that the company have done, I can't say, they have donated to my GoFundMe at one point at the beginning when Daniel first, when I first started my searches out there. A few workers, I don't know if it was a company mandate or just workers got together from the job, came out to support my efforts out there in the desert.

They come out there to help search. But other than that, like you said, at the beginning, they never called law enforcement to report him missing. They never organized a search party or, you know, they have the resources, or even put money into some of the things I needed out there when I was searching, like cadaver dolls, finding, have drones, specialized drones, et cetera, that I've been, you know, asking the public for. And so I can't say. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.

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What has this search, as we continue to hold out hope and prayers that you will find Daniel alive, what has this given you in terms of insight as to continue to hold out hope and prayers that you will find Daniel alive. What has this given you in terms of insight as to what law enforcement needs in order to intervene to help people who may have lost loved ones? And like you say, you find that human remains. What has this told you, given you insight to in terms of just the failures of the safety nets that we have around us that we think are there, but in fact may not be? Well, it started for me at the beginning. You know, a lot of times we have a double jeopardy. In my son's case, of course, he's a young black male,

but males in general are not taken seriously when it comes to reporting them missing. I had to wait 12 hours. That was something that wasn't policy. I think a lot of officers and law enforcement will automatically tell a family, you have to wait a certain length of time, 12 hours, 48 hours, whatever the case may be, they may come back. I think it shouldn't be the law enforcement at first job to determine if family had done their due diligence, which we have. I

think all families do their due diligence when they're looking for their loved one. And that's what they call law enforcement. They know. They know their loved one. Of course, they're going to check and call family and friends and things like that. But I have learned that law enforcement do not. They look at certain cases, certain things up front. It's something they not feel that it had to be an urgency towards that case. Thank you. Recy. I'm just curious, what do you think actually happened?

There was a crash and obviously Daniel wasn't found there. So what is your theory in terms of what do you believe happened? Well, you know, as a father, of course, I'm going to be a little biased. First of all, because I really know my son. You know, I was a single parent for six years with my children. And, you know, I've been there from their birth. And, you know, so I think I have a pretty good idea what my son most likely would and wouldn't do. We don't know what our children will do when they become adults, but I have a good and clear idea.

When I looked at that scene when that vehicle first showed up, you know, that's what gave us one of the biggest breaks in what happened to my son. Just looking at that scene, any person, any lay person, not only have to be professional, don't have to be family, can look at that scene and say something is not right. And when I saw that, I seen foul play, of course. That's what I'm sure any family would. So that's automatic for me. But once I have hired my investigator who found physical, hard physical evidence

of the vehicle actually being planted there. That's when I know for sure foul play happened. But that's something that law enforcement to this day have refused and have rejected to accept is the hard physical evidence found at that scene. Candace. What is it that you need from the public right now? You've got thousands and thousands. This may hit a million.

For people who are watching, what is it that the public can do to help you on your journey? Yes, the continued support. I have been, again, I still have a little parts of areas that need to be searched. I'm still working on that. My biggest thing is to make sure our volunteers are safe out there. That's my first priority. I'm not willing to lose anyone just to search for Daniel. The other thing is I've continued to put flyers out there. I'm still trying to reach that person, a person that may know something. There's a tip line

on my website. Please help find Daniel.com. Anybody can reach out to that. You can stay anonymous. You don't even have to talk to anybody. You can text the word TILT to that number and still remain anonymous. Also, but the biggest part right now is getting my son, Case, moved over to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office. Many don't know that my son went missing in the county of Maricopa. Maricopa covers Buckeye, cities like Goodyear, Phoenix itself, also the city that my son last lived is called Tempe, Arizona. And so I'm trying to make sure we get my son, Case, pulling to that department because I'm still housing and holding on forensics, and it's very costly. I don't know how long DNA lasts, but those things need to be forensically tested, the airbags, the red transfer

paint on the vehicle, like I said, the clothing at the scene that we don't recognize as a family to even ensure that it's Daniel's clothing. We want his case moved over and get some fresh eyes into my son's case so we can find out exactly. I'm not interested in law enforcement egos. They hurt feelings and things like that. And holding on to my son's case as a hostage token just to prove a point when there's any time most cases when they need help they reach out to other law enforcement agencies as a family i've been asking law enforcement to put daniel's case over to the

maricopa county's office so what i have done to help bolster that i have been working in the background diligently holding meetings with my team and I, holding meetings with officials to try to get Daniel's case moved over. But from the public, I ask the public to continue to go to pleasehelpfinddan.com, do the mail-in protest that's been going on for weeks now, get thousands and thousands of letters into this department, picket signs that goes to these departments as well, these FOIA requests that goes in the departments

as well, and the request to have Daniel Cates moved over from the public. Anybody, no matter where you live, can join in on that. Also, I have a petition that I ask the public to continue to put your voices to because that's my backing. I have been utilizing that, and that helped me also to get some of the government officials to become active as well. OK. All right, Daniel, we appreciate it. Certainly. Good luck. We're going to continue to hope for the best as you try to find answers to what happened to your son. Thank you so very much. Yes. Thank you so much. All right, folks, going to go to a break. We'll be right back.

We'll be right back. Unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network. Thank you. God bless. Guys, hatred on the streets, a horrific scene, a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence. On that soil, you will not replace us. White people are losing their damn minds. There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol. We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.

I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys, guys. This country is getting increasingly racist

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Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.

Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott.

And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice

to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher.

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It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Here's the deal. We got to set ourselves up. See, retirement is the long game.

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using a picture of a black man for target practice, he's calling it a mistake. Villarica Mayor Gil McDougal ordered the Villarica Police Department's images of white citizens using a picture of a black man for target practice at his firearms training course over the weekend to be removed from social media and called for an investigation. Police Chief Michael Mansoor said there was no sinister intent in posting the photos, but some community members are not so sure. The original Facebook post received more than 500 comments and more than 400 shares. People call the images offensive and disgusting,

with one person even going to the police department to file a complaint. The images have since been removed from the department's Facebook page, and the mayor has asked that the comments remain. The city will investigate the incident with an independent firm. Villarica's population is 18,452 people, 42.6% black. Well, that says a whole lot right there, how they feel. And, yeah, I'm not buying, Recy. Oh, it's just a mistake. No, of course it's not a mistake. It's deliberate. I mean, they're training

these people to use Black people as target practice. And what's even more disturbing, if this claim is true, is the idea that this is sanctioned by the state of Georgia as acceptable targets. I know they tried to say that there's a diversity in the targets, but there was no diversity in what we're seeing in this picture that they chose to post and advertise. And so I don't think that they should be using this kind of pictures, particularly with specific faces and a number of things. But it just, it lines up with the way that the police in this country often feel like Black people are for target practice, and they're not human, and this is

just for shits and giggles for them. So it's appalling behavior. I'm glad that it's made public, but what are they going to do about it? That's the real question. Well, that's always the case. What are you going to do about it, Candace? And it goes to show you again what happens in police departments all across this country. It's amazing how it's all mistake and mistake and mistake and mistake and mistake. I'm like, man, y'all pretty damn good with the mistakes. Well, and this was very intentional, right? They bought a kit. So that's their defense. It was in a kit. This was a kit of diversity. Number one, what are these kits? I want to see what's in these kits. I'd

love to see some comments in the comment section about that. Where do you get them and what are in these kits? Number two, do these kits have any targets of a five foot three white woman with blonde hair? Probably not, is my guess. Number three, why would you even post this? This is why there's diversity, equity, and inclusion training, so that people know exactly when they're offending people and when and when to not have boundaries in what you do when it comes to different races, in the LGBT community, and so on in America. These are people who need training. And so this has to be the next step, that even if you had all your ducks in order, you had every diversity that was covered in this kit, you should not be posting just the African-American males. And actually, you should not have that a

target. Why can there not be a target that's just a silhouette? You don't need to train people to be triggered to shoot African-American men. And that's what's going on here. Correct. Yeah, Roland, I mean, I have to agree with Sister Kelly on that. I think you nailed that counselor.

Why can't they just be silhouettes? So, yeah, I love your suggestions. In fact, I agree wholeheartedly. Who's the company that manufactures them? What's the contract? And what does it look like? Are these wave after wave of the same suspect picture, so to speak, or person picture? Is it a bunch of white people and a bunch of Asian people and a bunch of black people? Because I tell you, I mean, you know, I thought about this as a Dave Chappelle skit. It could be when DEI goes wrong, because after all, it is diversity included. And he said, we have the other ones, as you see there, that just so happened that they started with the black ones. The other thing I would say is, and again, you know, one of my old

professors, Anderson Thompson, used to call this death white studies for what it's worth. But, you know, I'd be interested in looking at the targets themselves after they were finished and seeing where the hits were on the black targets as opposed to the non-black targets, just out of curiosity. Because after all, the problem here, of course, underneath all of this is the police. Indeed. All right, let's go to Florida, folks. Remember earlier I was talking about how Ron DeSantis now has a firm control over this hard right state Supreme Court. Well, that's absolutely the case in a six to one decision. They have determined that the prosecutor in the Tampa area, Andrew Warren, is not getting his job back. Remember, he was dutifully elected by the residents in that county. Ron DeSantis removed him from office because of comments that he made with regards to

transgender issues and abortion. Now, what's crazy, the state highest court says Warren waited too long to file a petition. Hmm. Really? Warren claimed DeSantis misused his power when he suspended Warren. DeSantis accused Warren of neglect of duty and incompetence after the Democratic state attorney signed statements and other prosecutors across the county country opposing criminal charges against abortion providers or women seeking abortions. He also said he wouldn't prosecute people for providing gender affirming health care and his office's policies didn't charge people with some minor crimes. Boy, I what happened, Candace, to local control, prosecutorial discretion? Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Well, listen, you've got the discretion of Ron DeSantis and his crew getting rid of prosecutorial discretion that goes against whatever he wants.

We know that the LGBT community and abortion rights, all of that is low-hanging fruit, and that's what's going on here. This is all a political football in order to entice people to come to the polls for whatever one issue they want to vote on. Look what happened to, was it Budweiser when we're talking about the beer company and how they use a transgender and the stocks plummeted. We know that people care about these issues. And that's what's going on here. He used his discretion, Ron DeSantis, in order to get rid of prosecutorial discretion that really worked in favor of people who are out there on the streets right now fighting for their rights in order to survive. People who are crossing lines. We still had

over 30,000 people who crossed state lines from one area to another in the country to find abortions that they were allowed to have by law. LGBTQ people, especially African-Americans, are being killed by the droids. It just doesn't go reported. So, again, this is something that Ron DeSantis is using in order to get people to vote. That is the bottom line. That's why he's playing with these particular topics. That is exactly the case, Greg. I just sit here and I just see these things unfolding and I see, Recy, I see what's happening here. And I just keep trying to explain to people, again, if you sit your ass at home, let's be real clear. In the last election, hundreds of thousands of black people in Florida just didn't vote.

And listen, I get it. I get people who say I'm frustrated. I haven't seen anything change. But this is the same governor who said the hell with these black congressional districts. I'm creating my own. He ignored the legislature. And so this is an absolutely autocrat. And again, there's a lot of people we saw. We saw the numbers drop. Black Turner dropped. Black voter turnout dropped all across the country. South Carolina, we saw 75 percent of young people under the age of 30 in Texas not vote in the 2022 midterm elections. We've seen it over and over and over again. And I just keep saying to folk, hey, you're going to get the kind of politics that you're getting when we check out of the process.

Yeah, I mean, the onus is not on Black voters to save democracy, to save the country time and time again, when you have white voters who consistently side with white nationalism, and they consider that to be their self-interest as opposed to health care, as opposed to combating climate change, as opposed to economic equality and things of that nature. However, the onus is on us to fight for our survival. And one of those tools in our survival toolkit is actually our vote. And we need to exercise our capacity. The fact that we can't even appeal to people who are already registered to vote to just get their ass out and vote is continues to be political malpractice., continues to be political malpractice.

It continues to be citizenship malpractice because the reality is Ron DeSantis has been a brazen fascist authoritarian. I wrote two books on the midterm. Ron DeSantis played a prominent role in both books. And I went through point by point by how wrong he was for the state of Florida in terms of, again, denying Medicare, in terms of his anti-business policies, in terms of his anti-free speech policies, and so on and so forth. And people just flat out didn't give a shit that they were dealing with an autocrat because they wanted to party on South Beach while we had COVID-19. And so what the citizens of Florida are experiencing is the result of their indifference to fascism and autocracy from not just Ron DeSantis, but his in terms of a general election if he were to become the nominee, because his policies are so extreme that people will not sign up for that nationally.

But unfortunately, the people of Florida are still stuck with him and his increasingly ridiculous and anti-citizen policies. Well, again, we're seeing this all across the country we're seeing what happens how they're abusing their power and if folks if you want to sit here and say hey you're fine with it okay guess what we're gonna do more stories like this and they're gonna be wondering why uh we are having rights taken away and why we uh are being uh abused this is a This was a prosecutor who was elected by the people. And guess what? Republican governors across the country are trying to do the same thing in their states

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Hey, it's John Murray, the executive producer of the new Sherry Shepard Talk Show. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, ladies and gentlemen, cops gone wild. A Warren, Michigan police officer caught on camera assaulting a carjacking suspect during the booking process at City Hall. Officer Matthew Rodriguez, a 14-year veteran of the Warren Police Department, punched the 19-year-old suspect in the head, just unprovoked, slammed his head into the ground and continued to strike him. Video footage from the booking room released by the Warren Police Department showed the moments leading up to the assault and when Rodriguez threw the suspect into a cell. The officer did not have his body camera on at the time of the incident.

Rodriguez is facing assault and battery charges and is on unpaid administrative leave. The suspect was taken to the hospital for follow-up care after the incident. Rodriguez was arraigned in a 37th District Court and given a $5,000 bond. This right here is what we talk about, Candace, from a legal standpoint, where you have these cops who believe they can do whatever they want to do as long as they have that badge and gun. I mean, he just hauls off and just knocks the dude out and body slams him. And there was no protest. You know, what gets me about this is that even though he didn't have on his personal body cam,

he knew that there was a camera going, but that never seems to stop them. What do they think is going to happen? They have evidence of what happened. There was no provocation from the gentleman. Everything was going as planned in terms of the booking or whatever they were doing. Why would they do this? And see, that is the problem. It's in the why. Why do they continue to assault and batter young Black men, especially in these types of situations? And that's the question that police officers and captains and everybody who's going to come out and say now it was a mistake and we've got him on unpaid leave needs to figure out. What is at the root of the problem that they need to solve, why this keeps happening over and over again. You're simply collecting evidence and giving this gift to the prosecutor.

It's going to be easy to prove assault and battery because you've got the evidence right on the tape. I'm not sure what's going on here, but these are something that offices across the country and deputies and sheriffs and all the training programs need to address to get to the core of this question. You know you're going to get caught. You're being recorded. Why do you keep doing it? I'm still trying to figure out, Reese, why on the hell the body camera wasn't on? I keep saying the moment an officer goes on duty, camera should be on. The moment they get off duty, camera should get turned off. Well, absolutely.

But he did this knowing that there were still surveillance cameras in the area because he just didn't give a damn. And he felt like, who was going to check him? Now, look, I don't know if this suspect was actually, in fact, guilty of the crime of carjacking. I could maybe understand knocking somebody around who was in the process of carjacking a car. But in the book at Rome, that time has definitely passed at that point. And so this is just more evidence of police brutality taking it too far and violating people's civil rights. You know, at that point, there's supposed to be an orderly process.

This person is not a danger at that point. And so this is excessive, but I'm glad in this case, we do see consequences coming for this police officer. First of all, administrative leave, Greg, no, that should be, no, your ass got to go. You fired. You fired. Right. And your name should be added to a national database and registry. There should be tracking of weight. That was in the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. Tim, mission accomplished. Scott made sure that that didn't happen. And we should never, ever let that traitor to our common humanity. Forget it. But like like like Richie said, I mean, you know, he didn't care whether his body cam was on or off, because at this point, videos, while, you know, we certainly prefer them than not having videos, is a form of trauma porn.

They get to watch, and I'm sure the video will be widely distributed, and other police, other hunters will enjoy watching it. You know, as Ice Cube said, F the police coming straight from the underground. Young brother got it bad because I'm brown. And not the other color. So police think they have the authority to kill a minority. And so at the end of the day, what they're basically saying, as Reese said, is I can do

whatever the hell I want to do. And so if he loses his job, hell, there might be more of a penalty for him for breaking that damn computer than beating up that brother. He'll just go to another municipality where he'll be greeted with open arms as a hero and continue to work. Now, if you take them cuffs on to continue to quote Ice Cube, you know, we can go toe to toe in the middle of a cell. And that's really what we're looking at here. This man and all of his comrades who act similarly, holding their little manhood in their hands, love to beat up on people

with handcuffs on, love to toss people around. And as you showed the other day, love to grab on whoever they can grab, including other cops as that white boy put his hands on the white girl when they were putting their brother in the back of the car. This is all about a warped culture where race is at the center and at the center of race's gender. These are white men and women, but white men whose image of manhood consists of seeing themselves at the top of a food chain when they got people in handcuffs. But see, you won't keep on until you snatch up on the right one. What do you always say, Roland? You won't hit up on the right one. What do you always say, Roland? You're going to hit up on the right one one day. Yep.

Now I'm done. Keep trying to let them know. All right, y'all. We had this family on our show out of Slidell, Louisiana. Now they are suing Calvary Baptist Church. This was after the 12-year-old's son, well, the principal allegedly questioned the student's decision to braid his hair, asking him if he was being a gangster. His parents, the parents of Dolan Thorne, Ashley and Damon, said the principal, Dr. Angeline Messman, her comments were racially insensitive and failed to promote inclusion. Lawsuit filed in Covington Names of School. The principal and Calvary Baptist Church defendants.

The suit alleges the principal's actions caused a student emotional distress and violated a state law passed last year prohibiting discrimination based on a person's natural, protective, or cultural hairstyle. The family seeks unspecified damages and advocates for inclusion and racial sensitivity training at the school. This right here, Greg, is why the Crown Act is passed. Absolutely. It should be federal law, blocked by Republicans.

It was just passed in Texas. It's there in Louisiana. They've gone state by state. This is precisely why. Absolutely. Absolutely. The sister we saw last week at the White House with the Juneteenth celebration, Adjua Batwe Osmore, who came up and gave you a big hug, who has been the architect and the force behind the Crown Act as it makes its way through local and state legislatures, is working on that federal legislation. And you're absolutely right. know what Reginald Martin Sr. would have done if you'd shown up at your house at that age with them braids on.

I know what Haywood Carr would have done. But the fact of the matter is, this isn't about cultural choice. This is about the ability to wear your hair however the hell you want. And it's quite a thing to now, at 58 years old, walk around in the world and see Black people with hair in whatever style we want. When there was a time when you couldn't wear your hair in braids, certainly sisters would be penalized, maybe not even higher, if they wore it the way that it came out of their head at birth.

But we're at a moment now where this is an inflection point. And, you know, folk need to back up off the fact, I don't care how the boy's hair is done. You're not going to read anything into it. And if you keep messing around, you might lose your job messing with us. So, yeah, advance the Crown Act. It continues to march full speed ahead. A lot of folks, again,

just don't understand this reality, Candace, of what black people have to face when we are being singled out because of our hair. They love to quote MLK content of character, but it's amazing how they love marginalizing us because of our hair. Not, they love to quote MLK content of character, but it's amazing how they love marginalizing us because of our hair.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I guess you're speaking to exhibit one, someone who's been told over the years, for the past 34 years, that my hair is inappropriate for the workplace. Or, oh, wow, you look like Raggedy Ann. Oh, when I had it big and curly. I mean, it really depends.

And I've seen the whole trajectory change. As you said, people like Bonnie Watson Coleman and the other young woman that Dr. Carr mentioned, they are trying to push the Crown Act on a federal level. It hasn't happened yet. And you know why? It's because people do discriminate against hair. And this is a shame because this is a lawsuit that's going to be easily won because the Crown Act does exist in this state. This was a violation that was based on race because that's how his hair grows out of his head. And he can style it any way he wants to, the same way that a Native American should and can wear their hair long, the same way that a Hasidic Jew is allowed to wear their hair curly on the sides and also cover their hair. These are things that we don't look at.

But when it comes to African-Americans, especially African-American women, you better believe that there is a double standard even now with the Crown Act passed in states. I know women who straighten their hair for the interview, and then once they cross that hiring mark, then they go curly, or then they get braids, or then they do what they have to do. Because you might have that act on paper, but then you have to deal with that real person who is hiring you across the table.

And that is the issue. I talk to Black women all the time. I teach a class called, um, Natural Hair Entangled Politics, and we talk about the history of hair from the slave ship all the way up to 2023. And what's going on right now is that this young person is going to win their case. Why? Because there are laws on the books, and those laws specifically say what they did against him was illegal. And that is where we are right now.

It is unfortunate, but it is something that exists. You've got the violation of his civil rights, you've got racism involved, and you've got intentional infliction of emotional distress because how is this person going to exist in their classroom not even being able to be themselves? These are people who are discriminating against men and women because of the hair that grows out of our head. It's just like freckles. be themselves. These are people who are discriminating against men and women because

of the hair that grows out of our head. It's just like freckles. It's just like any other physical trait that people might have. And it is unfortunate that we have to force people to put laws on the books, laws that aren't even federal yet because it's being blocked by Republicans. This seems to be where the situation and the conversation this whole night has ended. The Republicans are stopping the progress. And that's what I have to say about that. Recy? Well, what I think is interesting is often when we have the discussion about the Crown Act, when we have the discussion about hair discrimination,

people automatically think that this is a Black women's issue. But we now have multiple high-profile cases of Black men experiencing this discrimination, too. I'm sure people remember the wrestler who was forced to humiliatingly cut out his locks in order to continue with the wrestling match, which was a violation of his. And now we see this situation in Louisiana.

There have been other situations in Texas before the Crown Act. And so what I would like to see is I would like to see solidarity within the Black community of recognizing that this hair discrimination is not a Black woman issue. It's not a Black man issue.

It's a Black issue. It's a social justice issue. It's an economic justice issue. And I'm so happy to see Black people getting more litigious because guess what? If people do us wrong, if you ain't gonna throw hands, at least you can sue their ass.

Uh, indeed. All right, y'all, hold tight one second. We'll be coming back. Lord, y'all, wait till I play this video. Uh, this... This white woman is beside herself that we got Juneteenth. But how do you know she's dumb? She clearly slept through and flunked every history class ever.

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What's happening to the white people? They have a black Miss America. They have a black college. They have a black month. What do we have? And now they have Juneteenth. Yes, I understand there was slavery. Don't get me wrong. But there was also a Holocaust, and that was more recent than slavery. But you don't hear the Jews saying, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. What's the point of Juneteenth? What is it?

I don't know. Okay. I'm gonna take this one by one. Um... Press play again. Bull. What's happening to the white people? They have a black Miss America. Go to the beginning.

Go to the beginning. Juneteenth is, excuse me, what's happening to the white people? They have a black Miss America. They have a black college. They have a black month. What do we have? And now they have Juneteenth. Stop right there. Stop right there. Stop right there. Stop right there. Stop right there. Okay. First of all, this child said they have a black college. Actually,

there are 107. They're actually called historically black colleges, but they're not actually black. 20% of the students that go to them are actually non-African American. You've got a couple actually that are majority white. So you're pretty much stupid right there. Then of course, I don't know why she's whispering her epitaph regarding June 10th. I mean, we know you're an idiot. Then she goes, they have a black Miss America. Do you know how many white Miss Americas that have been in this country long before we got the first black one? A whole bunch of them. How many white folks won the Heisman Trophy when black people weren't even allowed to go to major college programs? Then you hear her complain and talk about, oh, they have a month.

It's the shortest month of the year and you have the other 11. I mean, literally, we've got white history all over the place. Okay. Now, the next part is what I find to be really laughable. Hit play. Yes, I understand there was slavery. Don't get me wrong. But there was also a Holocaust. And that was more recent than slavery.

But you don't hear the Jews saying, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. That's the point of Juneteenth. Let's stop right there. Let's just stop right there. Did y'all see this story? First of all, before I even go to this here, and I think this is something that often happens in this country.

She mentions the Holocaust. First and foremost, the Holocaust didn't happen here. Nope. That was in Germany. The Holocaust did not happen in the United States. The enslavement of people of African descent, right here. We can we can actually go see what were plantations. Yep. All across the country. Right here. Then she says, the Jews are saying, give me, give me, give me. Here's a story that dated June 15, 2023. Germany to give $1.4 billion overall for Holocaust survivors around the globe for the coming year. Germany's finance ministry, and includes $888.9 million to provide home care and supportive services for frail and vulnerable Holocaust survivors. Additionally, increases of $175 million to symbolic payments of the hardship fund supplemental program have been achieved, impacting more than 128,000 Holocaust survivors globally, according to the New York-based Conference

on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, also referred to as the Claims Conference. Quote, every year these negotiations become more and more critical as this last generation of Holocaust survivors age and their needs increase, said Greg Schneider, the claims conference's executive vice president. It really does crack me up, Recy, how these folk are just beside themselves because they are having now to confront the reality of slavery with Juneteenth. And see, this is where a lot of people recently kept yelling, did anybody ask for Juneteenth? See, the reason why I like Juneteenth being a federal holiday is because you can't get around it. See, it's real easy.

It's real easy to go, oh, Dr. King, he loved everybody. He wanted us to get along and they could not cherry pick. It's a little hard to cherry pick slavery. It's a little hard just to push the slavery part out of Juneteenth. Now, they're going to try, but it's going to be a little... They are upset recently because they have to now confront the truth about slavery in America.

Just tell them. But they still not even really confronted it. They just mad because they think that black people got an extra day to go have barbecues and turn up and, you know, have a cookout or whatever. But the reality is that they don't, you know, she asked, where are the white people? The white people were the ones keeping black people enslaved for an additional two years after the Emancipation Proclamation.

So, bitch, pick up a book and read to find out what the hell this Juneteenth is even about. She doesn't even know what it's about, but she knows that it's Black. And because it's Black, she has a problem with it because she sees Black people in some ways rejoicing or in some ways, you know, having a sober reflection of what it meant to have slavery

in this country for centuries. She has a problem with it. I don't even know why is Miss America in it? Why is Black History Month in it? I don't know how any of those things have any relevance, except for the fact that there are white people out there that want black people to have absolutely

nothing. No recognition, no accomplishments, no citizenship. Just sit up here and be the mules of white America, and that ain't happening, Captain. And that right there, Candace, is it, which is why I wrote my book, White Fear. They don't want black folk to have nothing. I'll tell you what. I'm so glad that she said what she said. You know why? Because it allows us to see how people are thinking

on such an ignorant level. Because in my circles and in your circles on any given day, we don't actually talk one-on-one with people like her. So we have to be reminded of what is out there and what needs to be corrected. I mean, I will give her a little credit. She did at the end ask, well, why do we have Juneteenth? You better believe that when we talk about the $1.2 billion that was going to Holocaust survivors and other efforts, some of that's going to be spent on education, because people need to know the reason behind the Holocaust, the reason behind slavery. She doesn't understand how we transformed the world in terms of economics, in terms of the tobacco industry

and the cotton industry and forcing America to live up to the Constitution the way that it was written. So I will say this, that seeing her was actually just a good reminder, I think, for everybody to understand where we are. And this is why critical race theory, this is why history, this is why redactions, this is why all the books that people want out of the library is so important to pay attention to. Because if we don't get it right in the education system, they grow up and they become her. I am loving, Greg, how Juneteenth is driving these people crazy.

I agree with you. I mean, you know, I'm telling people it's like Juneteenth is like the Fourth of July meets Kwanzaa. All this red, black and green, all this. And, you know, I was talking about this with some students today, some high school kids in Philly, a Philly school student. We were looking at the debate over Martin Luther King's birthday. And, of course, your homie, the great Mickey Leland, Congressman Leland out of Texas, when they were debating that the King's birthday in Congress and they were saying we shouldn't have a day off. Let's put it on Sunday. And we put it on Sunday.

It can just be a kind of commemoration. And Mickey Leland was like, yeah, somebody told me we should just make it on Sunday, Super Bowl Sunday. And then we can have the celebration right there at the Super Bowl, the halftime show. Then they shut up. When they passed, it was an hour debate in House of Representatives and consent. You didn't have consent in the Senate. I think they did it before they thought about it. And like you said, Roland, they done grabbed it now.

And you can't be digested. This is our holiday. Fourth of July was the 13 colonies versus Great Britain. about it. And like you said, Roland, they done grabbed it now, and you can't be digested. You know what I'm saying? This is our holiday. Fourth of July was the 13 colonies versus Great Britain. Juneteenth is us versus you. You can't be us. So now, but you know what? I think when the next edition of White Fear, the next

print edition, not the e-book, but the print edition of White Fear comes out, I don't know, Roland, maybe would you consider perhaps putting a blurb by her on the back? Maybe take those six words out. What do the white people have? And put that on the back, because just like Racy and just like Candace said, they want this whole thing to be about white people.

They don't want us to have nothing. But guess what? Juneteenth, as you know as a Texan, when we celebrate, we celebrate, we commemorate the end of enslavement. We commemorate the fact that 20 of the 26,000 soldiers who came into Galveston with them boys were black and that we freed ourselves. And we celebrate black self-determination. So listen, y'all, get this money for the Black Star Network. Let's stop playing with these people. Don't ask them. Come on. We can fund ourselves. That is in the spirit of Juneteenth. Jack Yates bought that property, created a man's park and celebrated black self-determination. That's the lesson from Juneteenth for us. Forget what they think. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I think they're not going, man, what the

hell did we do? What did we... They thought it was like renaming the post office. They're like, man, what in the hell did we do? They're like, man, they just killing them what they did. Can I say one more thing, Roland? I love that, you know, we have all, we usually have all the black

shit in January and February. We get MLK Day and they, you know, just completely whitewash his history. And then we get the shortest month of the year. And then they're done with the Blacks again until January rolls around. So I love that there is now this, this, this, this, this pause in the middle of the year that there's a reckoning again with us. And we, the blood has already been shed. It's not about being out in the streets to protest another Black person being killed by the police. You have to have a reckoning

with the history of Black people in America more than once a year, right smack back in the middle, before you get to Fourth of July. And I love that for us. Yeah, that's right. So I think we got to figure out how to make August 28th

Lenten Remembrance Day. So sit, because we got to figure out how to make august 28th um lynching remembrance day so sit because we got june so we got january we got february then we can we can do then we can boom we got june you know it's also black music month in june and so if we do august 28th we can tie that to emmett teal and then what the hell while we at it let's just go ahead and make it an annual deal where we focus on December 6th, which is when the 13th Amendment was ratified, abolishing slavery. And so, yeah, I'm down with coming up with something every month that we can sneak in. So let's figure that one out. Yeah.

Candace, Reesey, Craig, I appreciate it. So let's figure that one out. Yes. Yes. And there's Lacey Craig. I appreciate it. That's absolutely driving crazy. And, again, for us, listen, I love these advertisers who hit me. Roland, do you have a schedule of events that you guys are going to be doing? They go, do you have, like, for King Day and Black History Month? And I go, you know we do Black stuff every day. So we don't

actually, like literally, they sit here and they go hey, so, you know, what are your plans for, they ask me like, what are your King Day plans, your Black History Month plans, your Black Music Month plans, and I go we do Black every day. So we don't only discuss

Black music in June. We we do black every day. So we don't only discuss black music in June. We might do it in September. December. We'll mix it up. So it's always interesting in terms of how they operate. So I'm always trying to explain them. We're black 365. Seven days a week.

Period. There we go. We don't take a day off being black. That's every single day. That's what we do. Candace Reesey, Greg, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot for We don't take a day off being black. That's every single day. That's what we do. Candace Reesey, Greg, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot for joining me on today's show. Folks, that is it for us. Please support us in what we do. I can't tell you enough. I mean, I know y'all think I may sound crazy. And look, a bunch of y'all are watching. I appreciate all of you, the thousands who are watching online. But I really do mean it. We are out here fighting hard to get these advertising dollars. Media exists because of advertising dollars. All this stuff we do

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