#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Picking a Black SCOTUS Justice; White men shot at FedEx Driver, Basketball Coach Attire; Spades 101

Episode Date: February 12, 2022

2.11.2022 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Picking a Black SCOTUS Justice; White men shot at FedEx Driver, Basketball Coach Attire; Spades 101The vetting process on the next Supreme Court justice has officially begun, and President Joe Biden says he will start the interview process with the four candidates. Is this process pitting black women against each other, or is that just a distraction from focusing on each candidate's qualifications? Melanie Campbell, the President, and CEO of the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation, will join us for some insight on the process that could lead the sitting the first black female Supreme Court Justice.We'll tell you about Louisiana's plan to keep Black voters underrepresented in Congress. It's voter suppression at its finest.Also, the Louisiana House of Representatives is creating a select committee to investigate the death of Ronald Greene, the black man beaten by State troopers.When two white men began shooting at him, he was just doing his job. Tonight, the Mississippi FedEx driver and his attorney update us on the case.One of the Texas A & M coaches is getting criticized for what she's wearing on the sidelines. Really?! Ya'll won't believe the comments.The great resignation is hitting the education field. In our Education Matters segment, we'll look at what one man is doing to help slow down the rate of teachers quitting.Last night, I should you the video of the woman who said she got kicked out of her grandmother's house for not knowing how to play spades. Well, we found her, and she'll be here tonight.And another crazy-ass white person doing crazy-ass white people shit gets fired.  #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: Nissan | Check out the ALL NEW 2022 Nissan Frontier! As Efficient As It Is Powerful! 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/3FqR7bPSupport #RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfilteredDownload the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com#RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Turn it off, turn it on. All right, the vetting process, folks, for the next Supreme Court Justice is underway. President Joe Biden says he has it down to four candidates. Also, folks, on today's show, we'll tell you about Louisiana's plan to keep black.. But first of all, we discussed yesterday Louisiana's plan to keep black voters packed into one district. Also, the Louisiana House of Representatives,

they're creating a select committee to investigate the death of Ronald Green, the black man who was beaten by state troopers, and they covered up his death as well. When two white men began shooting at him, he was just doing his job tonight. The Mississippi FedEx driver and his attorney update us on the case where two white men have been. The fact the fine And when it breaks he's right on time And it's rolling Best believe he's knowing Putting it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rolling It's on go-go-royal It's rolling Martin Rolling with rolling now Yeah, yeah. It's Roland Martin. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Rolling with Roland now.

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begun, and he's already talked to Democrats on what the plan will be to roll the nomination out and to get this black woman confirmed. Also on today's show, we'll talk about a case out of Louisiana where the House of Representatives,

they're creating a special committee to investigate the death of Ronald Green, the black man who was beaten by state troopers. They covered it up. FedEx driver in Mississippi shot at by two white men. FedEx hasn't done a lot to help this brother. He will be with us along with his attorney to talk about this extremely strange case. So a brother on social media actually questioned the attire of a black female coach at Texas A&M.

A lot of folks have been talking about the outfit worn by Sidney Carter. Well, Sidney will join us for her first public comments about all of this drama. The great resignation is hitting the education field and our education matters segment will look at what one man is doing to help slow down the rate of teachers quitting. Last night, I showed you the video, woman who said that she got kicked out of her grandmother's house for not knowing how to play spades. Well, we found her, and we'll talk to her tonight. And also, another crazy-ass white person doing

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Rolling with Roland now He's punk, he's fresh says he will begin interviewing the potential nominees for the Supreme Court justice next week. Black lawmakers are wary of pitting the sisters against each other. They want the Democratic Party to focus on making sure the candidate is confirmed. The potential nominees, again, they have not actually released a list, but this is the names that are being talked about. Judge Katonji Brown-Jackson, Judge J. Michelle Childs out of South Carolina, Judge Candace Jackson-Akuwumi, Judge Holly Thomas, Leandra Kruger, who is also a judge out of California.

We should have a judge next to her name, too. Isn't she the one in the California State Supreme Court? Yeah. And also, here at the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, Sherrilyn Ifill. Those are some of the names we have heard talked about and bandied about. This, of course, will be an historic appointment, the first time in history that has actually taken place. Joining us right now is Melanie Campbell. She's president and CEO of the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation, also the Black Women's Roundtable.

So, Melanie, that was a letter that was sent out, signed by 13 black women in Congress, saying to Democrats, hey, don't sit here and pit one sister against another. And so they wanted people to understand that they stand strong on this point, too. Most definitely, Roland,

as you laid out the names you just called off, how many of them are judges already, with impeccable backgrounds? I do believe once we're able to, and then you have our civil rights organizations, especially our legal organizations who are also doing what they always do. They're checking those records out. So whoever ends up being, we need to be ready for, unfortunately, I think we're going to still have to be ready for a fight because folks are setting up to just make it very, very difficult for whoever is nominated.

And look, I mean, you already seen the starting where you have Republicans who are questioning who the nominee is going to be, suggesting that somehow they are an affirmative action hire. I mean, that's just the silliest stuff that they actually do. And so, you know, bottom line is this here. You know, they all will be absolutely qualified. It's amazing how we don't use the qualified, qualified when it comes to white folks. No, absolutely not.

And the other thing, Roland, you know, how long this fight has been, right? You know, when you think about, when folks talk about affirmative action, I say, well, I guess it was affirmative action for those 100, I think 114, only six weren't white men. So is that affirmative action for them? We kick that message right back to them. But I think the opportunity that we have here is to really make sure that we are organized, we know how things are always going to be. And it's also, at the end of the day, it's about power. And then to try to make sure

whoever gets nominated, whoever gets confirmed, that somehow they're not really, really good enough and they're not really, really supposed to be there. And so we really have to continue to work hard on that narrative and call people out. Oh, absolutely. And and look, it's also going to be important to use this moment to further discussion about, again, these these more than qualified sisters and and how there should be more in the system. Right. And then the one thing I will say the Biden administration has been doing is putting more Black women on the bench. And so that's critical, because at the end of the day,

if we're not sitting in those courtrooms, then we don't have the opportunity to have justice come our way the way it should be. It does make lived experience. Of course, it's not just black to be black. It's black. It's great.

But also to have the kind of backgrounds that you know the lived experience of being an African-American in this country. You know the experience of being a woman in this country. And being able to bring that with you is, I think, critically important. And also, of course, looking at those who have judicial records to look at that and see what that looks like.

All of that's fair game. What's not fair game is try to marginalize Black women, because it is about the image of saying you're not quite qualified or, like you said, the affirmative action, all of that, and then the setup for that. And we know even with all of that, get past all of that, and then the setup for that. And we know even with all of that, get past all of that, there's so much of a challenge for us when we end up being nominated for powerful positions as black people, black women.

We have the history. We have the receipts. So know that we have to be ready to fight. Indeed. And so I want to bring in my panel right now. Of course, we're joined right now on the show by some great folks. Michael Imhotep, African History Network. You can check his show out on his Facebook page each and every single day. Kelly Bethea, communications strategist.

Glad to have you as well. Matt Manning, civil rights attorney. Glad to have you as well. Matt Manning, Civil Rights Attorney, glad to have you as well. Matt, I'll start with you. You're in the courtroom. You're sitting here, you know, dealing with these cases. What's also important, and I keep saying this, people with lived experience. One of the things that we've had, we've had people, too many people who go to the Supreme Court

who were not practicing attorneys, who were not representing clients. And I think that also really is crucial. It's not just people who are coming from an academic point of view or who just work for justice, but who represented actual people. That's so important to To give you an example, the Justice Leandra Kruger, who's being considered, has presented 12 cases before the Supreme Court. I mean, that's just demonstrable experience. And to your point, as a lawyer who votes for judges in local elections, one of the first things I look at is how many cases has she tried? How many cases has she presented before the court? Because as an attorney, when I'm presenting a case, I want to be sure that the judge is not only going to consider

all of the evidence, but is going to give me the opportunity to try my case, is going to understand why I might be presenting certain arguments a certain way. So the lived experience is absolutely crucial, particularly as we fight issues like qualified immunity and other issues that are emerging in our society. So, you know, to imply that these extraordinary women are not qualified is purely racism and it's purely sexism. And it is unfounded when you look at their sterling backgrounds. And I think your point is spot on, Roland.

We need people who have actually practiced law and all of these women have done so at the highest level. And, you know, one of the things, Kelly, when we talk about looking at this here, I mean, look, I mean, as Melanie said, their records are going to be examined. You've got labor that, you know, big labor, very concerned about the cases that Judge Childs, that she represented when she was an attorney at a law firm, also her rulings. And so they're going to be looking at all of their records to get behind who they think is the best choice. And that's what you're supposed to do when you're vetting for a Supreme Court justice or any judge who is going to be appointed by another party. My only concern is like how other panelists said and other pundits

have said, do not hit these black women against each other because frankly, all of them are qualified for the position. I am excited to see who's going to be picked. But at the same time, we have a long way to go when it comes to equality across the board, especially when it comes to the judicial system. A main reason why people would possibly pin these women against each other is because so few Black people make these spaces, let alone Black women, in which none of these, no Black woman has ever entered into this space. So I understand the need for perfection. But at the same time, let's not put a bird, an undue burden on this panel of women who are already want to question anybody black. You've got Dr. Lisa Cook, sister of the appointed Federal Reserve. They are out here questioning her credentials, which are impeccable. I mean, this is the reality. Republicans are going to call

any candidate who isn't a hardcore Republican. They're going to question everything about them and question their competency. Well, they're going to do that, Roland, but it's going to be, unfortunately, because of white supremacy and racism and because of a lot of scared white men, it's going to be even worse for an African-American woman. But any of these women

that, any of them that are on the short list of four, I have full confidence in, and they will wipe up the floor with the likes of a Tom Cotton of Arkansas, punk-ass Ted Cruz out of Texas, southern fake country accent John Kennedy out of Louisiana, who said he wants a Supreme Court justice who knows the difference between a J. Crude catalog and the U.S. Constitution. But last time I checked at SupremeCourt.gov, when it comes to attending a law school,

does a Supreme Court justice have to attend a law school or something like that? You've had Supreme Court justices in the past who got confirmed, you know, and they didn't attend a law school. Now, they got the last justice to be appointed who did not attend any law school was James F. Burns, 1941, 1942. He did not graduate from high school and taught himself law passing the bar at the age of 23. Yes, that was a long time ago. But you've got a history of, you know, there's been 115 Supreme Court justices, only six have been non-white men. So they've had affirmative action since about 1789, 1790. So a lot of this nonsense, you know, we really need to push back on with the facts as well. People can go to supremecourt.gov and look at this

information as well, because there's a lot of disingenuous out here, just like that fake crack, just like that fake crack pipe story that was running on Fox News as well. OK, so we really need to push back on this also. Melanie, you made a point about what what the what the civil rights groups do. Explain to people who don't understand how, now granted, for whatever, for many reasons, this wasn't done when Elena Kagan was appointed under Obama. There was a whole bunch of pressure put on civil rights groups to get behind her appointment

because of some questions. But there's a process that is followed where the NAACP Legal Defense Fund goes through and does the analysis and then shares that with the other civil rights groups. Explain that. Right. And you're right, Roland. In the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, lawyers' committee, and in the other groups.

And so they take the time to really go through their records of what kind of cases have they prosecuted or defended, whatever the case may be, so that you have an idea about where they stand and how they look at the Constitution and how—and nothing is a 100 percent guarantee. But that—they take it very seriously, and it helps those of us who are advocates to have the facts and not just what we hear on Twitter or tweet or what somebody says, you know, on a soundbite, that we really have the kind of information

that we would need to know whether that person would be great for the bench. And I tell you, man, you had me having flashbacks. We're not going to go back to that. I'm moving forward. I'm glad that we're at this point. Well, look, I get it. But we also, it needs to be made clear.

I've talked about it, that the reality is the Obama administration, look, they didn't like black criticism when it came to their picks. But the reality is black organizations were there to fight for black people. And so, and I kept telling them. You know, we pushed a lot of, you know, we had we pushed on it. And it was one of the things that I said publicly that I won't back down from it. It was one of the disappointments that we had as black women that that never happened under the administration. But we're sure glad it's happening now. All right. Melanie Campbell, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you. All right then, folks.

Again, this is one of the things that people need to understand when we talk about the role of the president. Our responsibility is to put that pressure on them so they understand that, look, we're not going to sit here and take

things lightly. We're not going to sit here and not fight on behalf of African-Americans. And so we're glad to see that happening with all of these sisters. All right, y'all. Got to go to break. We come back. We're going to talk about a story of misogyny, sexism. This brother posts his comment on Facebook where he questions the attire

of a black female college assistant coach. Man, folks have talked about this story all over the country. It's been blowing up social media. Well, that sister, she will join us. Sydney Carter, Texas A&M University, publicly talking the first time about this. Can't wait to have this conversation with her. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered right here on the

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I didn't, because people say stupid stuff all the time, happens all the time. Then I was sitting, like I say, when I saw this dude, no, go back, this is some dude, his name is Wayne Walker, I think, something like that. Is that the actual one? Okay, all right. So he, no, no, no, no. No, that's not it.

That's not it. So he's on Twitter. He's also on Facebook. And so the initial post actually was on Facebook. And again, the guy's name is Wayne Walker. And so he posted this that particular image there. And let's see. So you guys, do you see my do you see my computer? OK, so this is the actual original post this guy Wayne Walker. Okay, so he posts this. And so

he goes, Sidney Carter, women's basketball coach, is her outfit appropriate as a basketball coach? That's the question he threw out. So I'm totally ignoring it. And then somebody hit me and they said, Roland, what you think about them talking about Sidney? I was like,

hold up. From A&M? Then it... Okay, so Sidney? I was like, hold up. From A&M? Then it, okay, so Sidney Carter played on the Texas A&M 2010 National Championship team. I was actually at the game. He was a supporter of them. So familiar with Sidney. Obviously, you see me rocking my Texas A&M gear. And so I hit her up, and I said, hey, would you like to talk about this?

Because a lot of folks have been weighing in, lighting into Homeboy. And he actually sent me a tweet. I can't believe y'all making all this noise, you know, because I asked a simple question. Well, that question has pissed a lot of people off. She has not talked publicly about this. She said she definitely wanted to come on. So welcome to the show, Sydney Carter. What up, Sydney? Hi. Of course, it's been a long time since I've seen you.

And of course, running with your running buddy, Sydney Colson, that crazy girl. So you're there in player development at Texas A&M with women's basketball team helping with recruiting as well and so so let's talk about this here a lot more people know you today than know the role you played on helping A&M win the national title in 2010 so let's first just talk about what your life has been like for the past few days. I mean, I honestly, I just wanted to wear my turtleneck and pink pants like I do every game. But it's been, I won't say overwhelming because it hasn't been overwhelming. I really have not really cared much about if somebody has anything to say about what I wear because I post every game outfit.

But it's been interesting to say the least because I just didn't think. I mean, this was something that I do every time, like I said, so I just didn't think that it would happen like this. I mean, I saw it happening and I was just like, I just got on pants and a shirt. And we're showing some of those collage of some of your outfits. And, yeah, if you look at your Instagram page and your Twitter page, I mean, you have photos of you wearing all kinds of different outfits. But what really bugged folks, a lot of people, and I'm talking about there that we were going to be having this conversation, I think it generated, you know, almost, you know, 1,500 comments all over folks who were just weighing in and who were talking and who were talking about, you know, this whole deal, and they would just say it makes no sense whatsoever. And you've had folks who said that, you know, this is, yeah, 7,498 hearts, more than 1,700 comments.

And a lot of people were angry because it's the policing of women's bodies, black women's bodies. That's what we heard a lot. Yeah, and, you know, this is not, the thing is, I'm not the first woman to wear heels on the sideline. I'm not the first woman to put on leather pants on the sideline. But, I mean, I just feel like, just take the fact that I'm black out of it. Just as a woman in general, no one's ever going to be satisfied

completely with what we do. I saw so many people saying she needs to be wearing sweats and tennis shoes on the sideline. Or, you know, people say all the time, women in sports, y'all are too manly. That's why we don't like to watch the women's game. But now I'm here I am, I'm dressing feminine and y'all are not satisfied with that either. Um, so, you know, I'm, for me personally, I'm, I'm just not in the business of doing things that if you're intimidated by my confidence and the fact that I'm unapologetically myself, that I'm not, I'm not going to diminish my light at the end of the day, because you're uncomfortable with the fact that I'm confident in myself. So that's just the reason that I felt like I haven't needed to say anything or to respond to anybody that has anything negative to say. Obviously, I appreciate the

support, the women's basketball community, and just women in general have banded around me. And I mean, it's been overwhelming for me to see but at the end of the day game 23 was yesterday and I came out with a full two-piece leather outfit on and my leather pumps because I'm not gonna change I mean today in practice if you go down my Instagram you'll see I even wear uh skirts and and tops and cute shoes just to practice because that's what I'm comfortable in I mean today I'm wearing since everybody had a problem with the pink pants, I got a pink skirt on today at practice. That's just what I do.

That's what I'm comfortable in. I'm not going to change my nails. I'm not going to change my hair. This is just me. The reason this is also an issue because the reality is women face this in other fields. Oh, okay, working in a law firm, watch what you're wearing, in television, in engineering. And so you have folks who are judging women based upon what they wear

as opposed to what they're saying, what they're doing. And to your point, look, I've watched women's basketball games. I've seen other head coaches in leather skirts, white women, not just African-American. And so, you know, I don't know whether this dude was going, ooh, the pants are too tight or whatever. And I've even had some people show photos of Cheryl Miller when she was the coach, you know, wearing baggy pants and jackets.

And here's the whole deal. OK, if she comes in that, that's her. That's her. Yeah. But I think, you know, to taking it back to just the fact that I'm a black woman, being a coach is being in a power position and people can't handle when a black woman is educated and actually looks good and is actually doing her job. So at the end of the day, if I'm wearing sweats or if I'm wearing my pink pants and my turtleneck, the job is going to get done at the end of the day. And the people that I work with and my university respect what I do. And I have never gotten a compliment. I mean, I've never gotten somebody say, you know, you need to stop wearing that or this is not a part of the dress code. I never intended to break barriers. I never intended to create a lane for people. I just wanted to wear what I am comfortable in at the end of the day.

So, you know, I just think people are intimidated by black people in power positions that are not afraid to be confident and stand on what they stand on at the end of the day. I'll pull my panel here, Michael Kelly, as well as Matt. Kelly, question and comment for Sydney? So when I first saw the picture, I didn't even understand what the issue was. And then I saw who actually posted it. And if I looked like him, I'd have an issue too, because really at the end of the day, the issue is not what you were wearing it's the fact that he liked what you were wearing and he can never even be at your level because he looks like a frayed q-tip and my other point being you know frankly if you were shaped like a crab leg this would not be an issue

thanks this would not be an issue so could you talk about how, and you and I both can relate to this, how instead of policing the creeps, they police our bodies instead, and how you dress doesn't have anything to do with your job. Yeah, I mean, I can't, at the end of the day, I can't leave my curves at home when I go to work. So it doesn't matter a box to work. You know, you're black women at the end of the day. We are built different. We have curves. And that's not a knock to any other race or anything. But at the end of the day, black people are known for their culture of being curvy women or, you know, just setting trends in general. But at the end of the day, my resume will speak for itself. And I have accomplished things, you know, from here to here when it comes to what I've done on the basketball floor.

So I've never felt like I needed to defend whether I'm credible in doing my job or not. So at the end of the day, like I said, it doesn't matter if I chose to wear a pair of Adidas sweats and tennis shoes on the floor, or if I decide to wear my clear heels at the end of the day, I'm going to get my job done because that's what I'm going to do regardless of what I'm wearing. Michael. Hey, Sydney, thanks for coming on and sharing this with us. So, yeah, you know, this is with with social media. It really feeds into this problem of judging women's bodies. It takes it to a whole nother level. OK, which is which really can cause self-esteem issues and body shaming, body issues with especially with African-American women. So you have, you know, I wasn't familiar with this story before seeing it, preparing for the day's show. You've worn a number of different outfits, suits, skirts, things like that.

So I think people really need to get over this. But I saw here that you're out. Is it true that your outfit was pink for breast cancer awareness? Is that true yes okay can you talk about that uh for a little bit and why you and wearing pink and what breast cancer awareness means to you if you don't mind yeah sure so i mean um typically every everybody knows um all around ncaa basketball we always have a week allotted for a team um and you wear pink in honor of uh breast cancer and breast cancer survivors. And I actually purchased these pants three years ago.

So thank God I can still fit into them. That's real. Yes. We're supporting the cause of bringing awareness to breast cancer. So I hope that, one, this has done that. But, I mean, breast cancer, obviously it hits home. And a lot of people actually don't know men can suffer from breast cancer as well. But, you know, I've obviously had being in a basketball program.

You've had a lot of people that are closely affected. I personally have not had any personal stories as far as breast cancer goes, but a lot of people around me, we actually had an assistant coach last year. His wife is a breast cancer survivor. So this wasn't something that I just said, okay, my pink pants might be a little tight, but I just said, these are my pink pants, and I'm supporting a cause at the end of the day. My nails, obviously, are supporting the cause as well. Nobody's talking about those. So, you know, that's all it was in my mind was, oh, I got a pair of pink pants in my closet, pink games coming up. I'm going to wear my pink pants. Right. Thank you, Matt.

Well, first, Sydney, I just want to apologize for the sexism that brought you here. This deserves no explanation. You shouldn't have to do it. Nonetheless, I commend your grace in doing so. The question I have is what message would you have for young women, you know, young girls, especially that are hearing this or seeing this and seeing this play out in terms of how they can continue to build their confidence and how you push past stupid people making stupid comments. And before you answer that, I also would like to ask how you live with yourself coaching out at that school way out there with the pigs and the hogs. Hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm going to need you to back your ass up, Matt.

Matt, okay, first of all, Sydney, you've got to realize Matt's silly ass live in Austin. Okay, that's the first problem, Matt. I couldn't resist. I couldn't resist. I couldn't resist. But, I mean, maybe I'm a little biased, but this is the best school to attend because nobody

does it like us. You talk about culture and tradition. Let them know! Let them know, Sidney! Let them know! Nobody's touching us. There is literally the spirit of Aggieland is a real thing. So, Matt, I invite you to step away from Austin and come get some real family atmosphere because you ain't getting there.

Whatever you got to tell yourself, Sidney, whatever you got to tell yourself. Because you know they ain't never concrete you in Austin. But as far as my message, I mean, so last night before the game, our social media actually posted a photo of me kind of like strutting out the tunnel. And then you will see my players kind of just like hyping me up and just kind of mimicking my walk, just in solidarity of the confidence that they knew I was going to have walking back out after all this stuff has happened. But I think the biggest thing is that I want people to know that like what I live is just a reality for me. I'm not going to say something and not live it at the end of the day. So if I have a message, it's just that if you see me, I hope that you understand that you can actually be yourself.

And I'm not just saying that. And then you come around me and then you feel like you can't. I never want people to feel that way because, you know, I'm just very confident and I'm very unapologetic about who I am at the end of the day. And I just don't feel that anybody should have to diminish their light because people are uncomfortable with the fact that they are comfortable with themselves. So that message to just understand. I'm so sorry to understand that it doesn't matter what people have to say at the end of the day. If you're comfortable with yourself and who you are, people are going to have something to say regardless. At the end of the day, that shouldn't matter. I wasn't raised that way.

I wasn't raised to be concerned with what people think about me or what they don't think about me. So that would be my message, just to continue to be confident whether people have something to say or not because somebody's going to find something to say. This is the photo you were talking about as they were coming out. And so, yeah, you can tell in the photo you've got your strut on. It is.

And so we see that. Now, what often happens when these things do go viral, you have different companies and other folks all of a sudden who see it and all of a sudden like, hmm. So you've been getting phone calls from any clothing companies or designers since this story has gone viral? I mean, right now I'm still trying to funnel through all of my messages and everything. I have seen some where people have said like a lot of black-owned businesses where they're like, hey, we would love to make you a piece to wear to the game.

I would love to send you a pantsuit. So I just haven't gotten around to actually, like, get to people. But, I mean, I would love to do that, obviously. I would love to have Adidas reach out to me, you know, and say something about working or collabing with me. Well, especially since they've got a black female chief marketing officer. You know what? I might hit her on LinkedIn and say you might want to hit a sister up. Yeah, but I got to get through all of these messages because, I mean,

I can't count how many there are. But I got to get through them to see if people are actually wanting to do something nice for me. I hope so. And I'm knowing how locker rooms are. I take it you've gotten a little ribbing from your players. Yeah. So so they obviously are always like, well, yesterday the media was like, OK, we can't wait to gain 23. We know we got to win. But what you wearing for game 23? i'm like um so yeah i mean but every game every game they're literally like that's the one that's the one and i'm like okay every game can't be the one ladies

happy that like they've got somebody that they can actually relate to um You know, I'm still young. I can still relate to the younger generation now in college. So that's what makes me happy is that they feel when they look at me like some of them legitimately see themselves. They always say, when I'm a coach, I know I'm going to dress like that. So that's the kind of response that I get from our kids. And so, but can you please provide some help to my man coach Blair? I know it was his last year. He's retiring. But you know, he coached blast my man, but

I might need to send him a couple of Ascot's or something. Well, he has actually done really well. He will even come to me. Sometimes you be like, all right Carter, what do you think? And so he actually had a really nice um one of our assistant coaches bought him a really nice like velvet maroon uh blazer this year and he came out and he didn't ask me what would look good with it but he came out with it and he had some nice black pants on this year and i said okay now this i approve of so typically he'll now this I approve of. So typically he'll ask me how it looks and other times he'll just go on and say he's been doing it for 50 years.

He knows what he's doing. So he'll run it by you. And so these here are some of the other photos Sydney has posted y'all on her social media page of her various outfits. And so, and so, and see, now, you know, really that is that the Christmas dress, Sydney? Really? That's the Christmas one? Okay, gotcha. Well, I'm quite sure it's now definitely going to be a thing for the other Aggie fans who are at the game who beforehand hadn't really noticed or paid any attention.

But again, hopefully that there are women, there are young girls across the country who will gain confidence themselves in your confidence and tell folks, I'm not sweating what you think because it doesn't matter. And by the way, just so folk know,

because again, the dude who posted it, he was a little upset. He's gotten lit up so hard, y'all. Yeah. Y'all can go right here. He has protected his tweets. So he's gotten blown.

And, Michael, he's from Detroit. So his brother here, Wayne Walker, yeah, he has protected his tweets because y'all have been lighting him up. And so I'm going to just zoom in. Y'all can see his photo right there. So Wayne, hey, next time you ask a question, you might want to think a little harder before you hit that send button because you might go viral too. So Sydney, I appreciate it. It's good to chat with you. Thanks for coming on to talk with us.

Good luck to the – let my fellow Aggies know. And for all y'all who are watching, let me be clear, okay? I ain't no bandwagon. I was supporting the women's basketball team a long time ago, and Coach Blair was calling me to even talk to the team. I've been to practice, so trust me, this ain't new. Tell Coach Kelly Bond I said what's up, and hopefully I will see y'all in March Madness

and try to pay a visit when y'all take it to me and get back to the Final Four. Thank you for having me. This was fun. Thanks a lot. Gig'em. Bye. Sorry, Matt, you can't do me. This is fun. Thanks a lot. Gig them. Bye. Sorry, Matt, you can't do that. I don't want to do that. Yeah, you can't do that because you know black

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Writer Claude McKay. All right, folks, welcome back to Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, let's talk about this strange case out of Mississippi. Okay, earlier this week, we told you about this black FedEx driver from Mississippi who was chased and shot at by two white men while he was delivering packages. The father and son duo, Gregory and

Brandon Case, they face aggravated assault and conspiracy charges. But Demontario Gibson wants them to be charged with a hate crime. He joins us now with his lawyer, Carlos Moore from Mississippi. Glad to have both of you on the show. So DeMontario, let me start here, all right? Walk us through what happened. When did this happen? Where were you? What time of the day? And how did this even occur?

Okay. So it actually happened on January 24th, 2021, around approximately 730, somewhere around that time. 730 p.m. or a.m.? P.m was it was pretty dark out got it yes sir so i was actually delivering a package to this address for 17 journey trail but i put the wrong address in and i put in 427 instead of 417. so as i'm delivering a package i'm looking for 427 which obviously doesn't exist because it's the wrong address so i proceed to leave the neighborhood as i'm leaving i see i notice 417 on the mailbox to my left. I check my Leo, which is my work device, to confirm that the address was 417 instead of 427, which I did. After that, I turned around in the rental yard.

I proceeded back to the correct address. I hopped out of my van, delivered the package, and hopped back in. Once I hopped back in my van, I noticed a white pickup truck approach me from a house on the same plot of land in the background. And they got extremely close to me they started blowing their horn and i thought i was just in their way because like the the road was extremely thin and i was just trying to get out that way as i proceeded to leave the driveway they uh tried to cut me off and trap me in the neighborhood but my instance kicked in and i swept around them as i swept around them i started driving down i drive down i'm hitting the gas.

I'm trying to get out of the neighborhood. I drive down to about two or three houses. There's another guy standing in the middle of the street, pointing a gun at my vehicle just like this, emotionally making stops and, like, miles and miles stop as well as doing his hand like this. I shake my head no. I hide behind the steering wheel and hope that he doesn't fight his vehicle.

I mean, fight his weapon into my vehicle. And I swerve around him as well. Once I swerve around him, he starts actually firing shots into my vehicle. I heard about four or five shots, but we found more bullet holes than what I heard. As I'm approaching the end of the neighborhood, one of my managers actually called me. She heard some of the shots going off. And I told her that I was being shot at. She was like, did you shoot at you?

And I was like, yes, ma'am. And she was like, okay, just hurry up and get back to the station as fast as you can. And I was like shot at. She was like, did you shoot that? I was like, yes, ma'am. And she was like, okay, just hurry up and get back to the station as fast as you can. And I was like, okay. So as I'm leaving Brookhaven, as I'm leaving the city, like still panicking, still hitting the gas, I noticed a white pickup truck still behind me. They chased me all the way out the city, all the way into the highway. And after driving down the highway about 10, 15 minutes, I finally called my other manager and let him know what was going on.

He said we would file a police report in the morning, which didn't sit right with me. So I just took it upon myself to call the police myself. Once I was dispatched, I only got out about half of my story before they cut me off. He asked me, well, you at this address? I was like, yes, sir. He was like, we just received a suspicious person call from this address. I said, sir, I'm not a suspicious person. I work for fitness.

I was just simply doing my job. After that, I was trying to finish my story, and he just told me to save it till the morning because I informed him that me and my manager was coming. The next morning, he took my name down. He said he'd give it to the supervisor. He also informed that they were shooting at me. He told me they didn't tell him that, like, when they called, of course, they wouldn't, though.

After I got the phone, I made it back to the FedEx facility. The manager, who actually heard some of the shots going out, we checked the van. It was bullet holes in the back of the van inside the packages, like packages that was directly behind me. It was like, so I could have been shot or anything. We actually found the bullet fragment on the truck as well. And we took pictures of it. We also filed a report that night so we can go through FedEx security. The following morning, I had to go to the police station with a different manager. We filed a report. When I got to the police station, the police were not taking me serious at all.

I dealt with three officers. The first officer I dealt with, he had to take my statement down. So as I'm telling him what's going on, he changed my story about three or four times. I would say to him, like, this is what happened. And he'd be like, so this is what just happened? No, sir, this is what happened. We did that about three or four times before he finally got the statement right. After that, there was a second officer who was sitting there listening to me,

the whole conversation. He made a comment. He said, I'm going to play devil for the African for a second and asked you if you did anything to make them think you were suspicious, to which I replied, no, sir, I was just doing my job. They thought I was suspicious. They was on them. And like I keep saying, there's disrespect. Like, why would you even question me when I'm just simply out here doing my job? I'm going to do just doing my job. They thought I was suspicious. They was on them. And like I keep saying, there's disrespect.

Like, why would you even question me when I'm just simply out here doing my job? I'm going to do it for them. But I made them think I was suspicious. Even if I did, civilians can't take it long until they're on their hands. Carlos, let me ask you. So first of all, how was FedEx aggressive

in demanding that justice be brought against these two men? Not hardly. They were less than aggressive. Their response was less than optimal. Just today, after we did the press conference yesterday and demanded that they take this case seriously, they called and checked on my client

and offered to reinstate him, his pay, retroactively to January 31st. But this has been two weeks now. They were quiet as a church mouse until now, and they did not do what they should have done to look after their own employees. I'm sorry, when you say reinstate his pay, what does that mean? He's been sitting home unpaid. He almost came within an inch of losing his life,

and FedEx had him at home since February 1st unpaid. He's been on leave without pay because they sent him back to the same route the very next day after this happened. And they had him in the same route and it was too much for him. The anxiety overwhelmed him and he asked him to go home and they let him go home, but they sent him home without pay. Wow. DeMontario, what have the other drivers been saying? Because obviously you're out there. It's not like you're walking around with a bulletproof vest on. You're just trying to deliver packages.

The last thing somebody wants to happen is to be shot at. Yes, sir. A lot of them are actually proud about me speaking up because they face the same day. Some of them face the same day that I faced, and they were more concerned about me speaking up. So they can, because they, I guess they kind of feel where I was coming from, like they could have been numb as well. So they just told me, a lot of them told me they were proud of what I'm doing, and I'm going to just continue to speak up about it. So, Carlos, were these men,

what took so long here? Were the officers, were they dragging their feet? Were the cops dragging their feet? Yes, they were, and we were dismayed about that, and that's why the family contacted me, so that we could get some

true justice and not Mississippi justice. It took them eight days to arrest and actually they did not arrest the cases they allowed them to turn themselves in on february the first mind you this shooting uh this attempted murder took place on on january the 24th so february the first eight days they turned themselves in they were bonded out on the same day, $75,000 bond for a Gregory case on a conspiracy charge and $150,000 bond for a Brandon case for a shooting into an occupied vehicle. We believe the charges need to be immediately upgraded to attempted murder because that's what it was, attempted murder. Had the roles been reversed and Mr. Gibson shot at them, he would have been immediately arrested for attempted murder.

That is just shocking and stunning. To my panel, I'll start with you, Matt. Matt, any questions for Dean Monterio and Carlos? Yeah, the question I have is what explanation have the police given you for why they didn't recommend attempted murder charges to the district attorney's office? I read the Mississippi law, and this is textbook. If you do an act that would culminate in a homicide, particularly here where there's no interaction with them and Mr. Gibson whatsoever, it seems like it's purely attempted murder. So what have the police explained as to why they haven't brought that charge and why they have not submitted that charge to the district attorney's office?

The police have given no explanation. We believe it's because the assistant chief of police, who has the same last name as the assailant, his name is Chris Case. So he is a case as well. We believe they are related and we believe there has been some home cooking. The lead investigator, I'm told, is also related to the cases. And so we have asked the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation to take over the state case and present the case to the district attorney. The district attorney told me yesterday that he will present the case as soon as he gets the file. And the earliest he's going to present it to a grand jury will be April.

And he's not going to recommend attempted murder. He's just going to give the facts to the grand jury, he said, and let them come back with whatever indictment they want to. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The district attorney is not going to recommend he's going to say it's up to y'all? That's what he told me. Wow. I couldn't believe it. So that's why we have asked the federal government to come in and prosecute this and investigate it as a hate crime,

because there is some home cooking going on here in Mississippi and so the Department of Justice, the Civil Rights Division and the FBI is taking this case very much more seriously. The FBI went to the uh, the Cabin Police Department yesterday and requested the file after I contacted them on Wednesday asking for them to open to an official investigation. Uh, Kelly. Um, you might have just answered this question, but just for clarification, has there been any sign of retaliation either from the police department and or even FedEx? I understand that you just said that he's been home without pay for this long. Has there been other forms of retaliation? Because that to me sounds like retaliation as well. Yes, we believe that FedEx had this man going into a hostile work environment. Surely, if you come within an inch of losing your

life, you know that that route is a hostile work environment to put him back on the very same, the very next day on the same route and have him perform in that job for two days with no protection. I mean, he could have been killed by those folks that were still out loose, just out on the wild, that he could have been dead. And so we're considering a claim against FedEx for putting this man in a hostile work environment. And then to have him sit at home without pay, with post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety anxiety it's just unbelievable but now FedEx is now singing the right tone but we had to make them sing that tune Michael hey thanks for coming on today Demontario and an attorney and I'm happy

that you're I'm happy that you're safe and And this could have been a lot worse. The question I have, and the attorney may want to answer this. So in researching this case, I was looking at comments from Police Chief Kenny Collins of the Brookhaven, Mississippi Police Department. statements on social media pushing back on people on social media who were making allegations that this was about racism, things like this in Brookhaven. And he said, we're not going to have outsiders coming in trying to stir that up. He said, Brookhaven is not a racist, prejudiced town. You can't judge a town by the actions of two individuals. Does it does it and he went on to say, say, people need to be careful what they post on social media.

If somebody is killed or hurt because of what you post on social media, you will be charged too. Did it seem like the police chief was stronger responding to people on social media than you all are in getting answers to what appears to be attempted murder. I mean, because they've shot a number of shots at him in the truck.

Can you comment on that? This seems really weird here. Very weird. And I just want to say from the outset, I consider Kenny Collins a clown. He has put on a clown show since this very incident. He has not taken it seriously. And he's a to that city and he needs to resign. I mean, he's more concerned about the protesters. Excuse me. He's black, by the way. He's black. All skin folk are not kinfolk. And so the puppet strings are being pulled

by somebody other than him. And he is just carrying masses water, and we are sick of it. He needs to resign. My dad was born and raised in Brookhaven, so I'm very familiar with Lincoln County. I spent several summers there. They have a history of racism. A civil rights leader was killed on the front lawn of Lincoln County Courthouse in 1955, and no one was brought to justice. So they will let you go. White men get away with killing a black man if you don't raise um holy hell and we have raised holy hell and we're going to get justice for demario gibson thank you all right then uh first of all um what is next uh for in this case uh demonterio well i'm just hoping that we receive justice to the highest level of law. Not only that, but like I've been saying,

we need to get laws in place specifically to protect Black people because it seems like the only thing these guys respond to is the law. That's why they always try to take it into their own hands. So once we get those laws in place, we can stop having situations like this happen because they won't be able to act on their emotions

without consequence. That's my main thing, as well as getting justice. Carlos, what's next on the legal side? On the legal side, we're continuing to demand an immediate arrest for an upgrade of the charges from aggravated assault to attempted murder. We'll continue to monitor things. We are planning to file a lawsuit against the case. It's a civil lawsuit. And we're also considering legal action against FedEx,

as well as Brookhaven and the police department, if we find out that they were complicit in the cover-up. Because just like the prosecutor in the Maude Iberi case tried to help the people out, the cellings, I believe that there has been some home-kicking in that police department. And we're going to get to the bottom of it, and we're going to hold everybody, every corporation, every city, a police department responsible. We're going to hold them liable and accountable. All right, then. Gentlemen, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you. All right, folks. Department of Justice, they have indicted a man on federal hate crime charges and another pleads guilty for threatening a black man in Kansas. Colton

Donner pleaded guilty in federal court for threatening a black man with a knife to intimidate and interfere with the man's right to fair housing. In September 2019, Donner was driving through a residential area of Paola, Kansas, when he saw a black man walking on the sidewalk. Donner stopped, got out of the car, and approached the victim while, of course, brandishing a knife. Donna threatened the victim, yelled racial slurs, and, of course, told him that Paola is a white town. In Maine, a man has been convicted for the December 20, 2020 fire that destroyed a predominantly black church in Springfield, Massachusetts. First of all, he was indicted by a federal grand jury. First of all, Dushko Vucev got hit with four counts of damage to religious property involving

fire, one count of use of fire to commit a federal felony. So we have quite the active Department of Justice there. So it sure is nice to have a DOJ that actually cares about hate crimes. That's what happens when you kick white supremacists out of the White House. So great job there. Folks in Louisiana, the Louisiana Hoppers representative, they're creating a committee to investigate the death of Ronald Green. Green was beaten in 2019 during a traffic stop by state troopers. Troopers initially told the family he died in a car accident. Yet two years later, when the body camera footage of the incident was released, it showed Louisiana state troopers beating, tasing, and kicking Green.

The Associated Press found a text message indicating Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards was aware of Green's deadly encounter with state troopers hours after it happened. Edwards, of course, denies these claims. As I said there, Matt, you know, when you look at these cases, when you heard what Carlos said there, when we talked about the case with Tanisha Campbell yesterday, this is why for people who don't understand the importance of voting. OK, you could sit here and be be pissed off all you want to at President Joe Biden for whatever he said, what he hasn't done, but here's what I do know.

There is a 180 degree change in the Trump Department of Justice compared to the Biden Department of Justice. To have Christian Clark leading the Civil Rights Division, to have Benita Gupta, former head of the Leadership Conference on Human and Civil Rights,

as a number two, these things matter. And so for the people, and again, people come at me all the time, oh, you sitting here, man, there's no big deal. Hell no, okay? Hell no. And yes, the Department of Justice, they are looking at the Tanisha Campbell, you know, following that particular case. They're following these other different cases. And so it's important to have a responsive DOJ that cares about civil rights. It absolutely is. It's important to have a responsive DOJ.

And it's important to have a DOJ that has lawyers that have been in the trenches that know not only how to prosecute these cases, but know how to investigate these cases and know when they've got evidence that they need to bring a case forward and need to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. Look, elections matter. Case in point, that prosecutor saying he's going to go in and not recommend attempted murder charges, I have presented to grand juries. The defense attorney has no right to be there. It's just the prosecutor. A prosecutor can literally say whatever he or she wants in the grand jury. The reason that's important is if you want an attempted murder charge, you go in and say, we think this is attempted murder. Please return a true bill for attempted murder. So when you have lawyers that

know that and lawyers that are actually committed to justice, you're going to have better outcomes. And that's why I'm encouraged that the DOJ is looking at all the cases that you mentioned, because we can have greater assurance they're going to find justice in those cases. We say it over and over and over again, Michael, elections have consequences. And so if people want to sit here and play games, I'm telling you right now, consistently, a Republican presidency will mean a Department of Justice that is going to side with cops and law enforcement over citizens, especially black people. Absolutely. Unless those cops and law enforcement are actually investigating the president, like the traitor in chief, Benedict Donald. Absolutely. And one of one of the biggest things that one of the biggest problems and we see this consistently, especially with African-Americans.

Some of them mean well, others are just social media pimps and whores. But I didn't mean to say that anyway. A lot of times people want something but don't know the process to actually get it. And there's a big disconnect. Like, if you talk to people who say they, we're not going to vote unless we get the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. Well, you do realize the only people that voted for the bill were Democrats, right, in the House of Representatives. That bill passed the House of Representatives March 3rd, 2021, by a vote of 220 to 212. All the Republicans voted against the damn bill. And the one Republican who

did vote for it said he made a mistake and he tweeted he was going to change his vote. So let me get this straight. You're going to let the people who consistently vote against your own interests take back control of the House and the Senate? See, we don't understand the process of follow through after the election is over with. And this is why I encourage everybody and my listeners of the African History Network show, go to congress.gov, congress.gov, because at congress.gov, all these bills that you say that you want passed, you can, one, read a summary of the bill. Two, more importantly, you can see who voted for the bill and who voted against the bill.

So if your members of the House of Representatives or your two members of the U.S. Senate keep consistently, overwhelmingly voting for bills that you advocate for, why the hell would you let them get voted out of office? Because most likely they're going to be replaced by somebody who's against your interests. And then if people, if you have members of the House or Senate that keep voting against your own interests, you've got to vote their asses out of office. So we don't understand a lot of these simple things. Yeah, a lot of folks don't get it, but that's one of the reasons why we are here because we're going to keep making it plain for people to understand.

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Here's the number to call, 202-890. Pull it up, please. Is it 1199? 202-890-1199. 202-890-1199. Hey, if you're a member of the Bring the Funk fan club, you can get priority to leave a comment. Hey, it's called membership has its privileges.

And so that's how we're going to do this thing. Let's go to, let's see here. Marcus Goodner, Dallas, Texas. What's up, Marcus? How you doing? Marcus? Marcus, are you there? Marcus there. Marcus, you there? All right, hold tight one second.

Well, let me know when we get to go to the, you know what, let's do this here. So y'all get the callers straight. Let me go to crazy ass white people. I'm white. I got you. Illegally selling water without a permit. On got you, Carl. Illegally selling water without a permit. On my property. Whoa!

Hey! Give me your ID. You don't live here. I'm uncomfortable. You know, Michael, Kelly, and Matt, I keep warning these folks, if you act a fool on these planes, it's not going to go well for you, okay? An unruly airline passenger, well, he ain't got a job today because he decided to call

a black Delta flight attendant the N-word. Chaos ensued after the Delta flight attendant asked the passenger to put on a mask. Witnesses say the request prompted a hostile response that left the attendant speechless. The unnamed man, who used to work with an Omaha software company, BuilderTrend, got fired. The company's CEO shared the following statement.

BuilderTrend has always been and will continue to be an inclusive and principled partner to our communities, customers, and people. Since Learning Monday of reports involving our employees, we have been actively investigating the incident with internal and external parties to learn as much as possible so that we can take appropriate action.

We take these accounts of unacceptable behavior extremely seriously based on actions that do not align with Builder Trend's values and standards of conduct We take these accounts of unacceptable behavior extremely seriously. Based on actions that do not align with builder trends, values, and standards of conduct, one employee has been terminated. We continue to investigate the incident and are working diligently to determine all requisite next steps. See, look, Kelly, I keep telling these folk, if y'all get on these planes and show your ass, we got all of this. And guess what? The moment they

show your picture, Twitter, Black Twitter, y'all, they better than Columbo. They gonna track your ass down. They gonna find your Facebook page. I mean, if you got AI, artificial intelligence,

I'm going to start calling this BI, black intelligence, because they're going to chase that ass down, going to expose you, and you're going to be out of a job every time. I mean, and it makes sense though, right? Because this is more than just you in a one-on-one altercation with someone and you move about your way.

You have something within you that is so insidious, such vitriol within you that there's no doubt that that trickles into whatever line of work that you have. So it makes sense that a company would not want someone so toxic in the workplace, regardless of whether we know their name or not. So I applaud this company, because if I'm correct, this guy is anonymous. We don't know exactly who he is. But the fact of the matter is, he no longer has a job. And frankly, if you play dumb games, you get dumb prizes. But further, this also brings up the conversation about who should and should not be on a no-fly list. If you are on a plane and you are making that plane, the entire plane, a toxic environment for flying and a dangerous environment for flying because you're attacking flight attendants, flying is a privilege. This is

not a right. So if you are one of those people, keep in mind that, you know, we might be on the track to putting you on a no-fly list because you're acting that stupid and compromising the safety of more than just yourself, more than just the flight attendant, but the pilot and everybody else on board. So you know the minutes. I keep telling me for Matt hey got gone and act the full. I'm telling you every time is that I absolutely believe we can in black unemployment. Every time one of these white vote get 5 acting the full wishes have black folks flood the because the company with applications. unemployment. Every time one of these white folk get fired for acting a fool, we should

have black folks flood the company with applications. I'm with you. And let me first commend the sister that worked for Delta Airlines for demanding that the other passengers who made her uncomfortable also not return to the plane. Because it's my understanding

it was a group of people, and when they tried to get back on the plane, some of them, she expressed her displeasure, understandably, and they were not allowed to get back on the plane. So first, shout outs to her. Number two, you really have to be an idiot to wear your company's emblem on the mask when you're using the N-word. This person would still have a job if they weren't so brazen. And I think that ultimately speaks to the character of a lot of these people. Not only are they clearly racist, but they're so brazen to think that there won't be any consequences, despite your fact and your point that so many people have lost their jobs behind liked conduct

when black Twitter and black intelligentsia found out who it was and blasted their information all over God's green earth. So that brazenness here got them bit in the ass as it should. I'm saying let's go after all of them, Michael. Everybody. I agree. I agree. You know, keep your cell phones charged up. And, you know, in this situation right here, the other thing you see, this is that liquid courage. Alcohol is going to get you in trouble every time. OK, the person was drunk and allegedly called the flight attendant the N-word. The flight attendant was asked some of the people on the flight as a group of them to put their masks on.

OK, but there were some people with this idiot who used the N-word. They had to build a trend logo on their masks also, and this is how they were tracked down. But, you know, once again, this deals with this whole white supremacist culture where a lot of these people think they can just do whatever they want to with impunity, and no, no, you ain't going to get away with it. Yeah, absolutely. That's exactly what's going on.

So I just keep saying, y'all act a fool. Guess what? You're going to get jacked. You're going to get jacked. All right, go to the phone lines. We got everything taken out. So Marcus, Marcus Goodner from Dallas, you there? Sir, how you doing?

There we go. How you doing, Brother Roland? Doing great. What's on your mind? All right. I just had a question about the young man who got shot at by those nuts, the FedEx employees. Do you think it would be a good idea if the black employees nationwide that work was said is did like a sick out where they you know called in sick to uh to protest how they treated the young men

look i mean those things have actually happened uh you know we've seen examples matt where uh cops uh upset when one of them gets charged and they do sick outs. We've seen that Baltimore and Chicago. So it's about sending a message to the company. I think that's right. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't FedEx based in Memphis? So if that's correct, I think that could be particularly impactful right there in their central location, their headquarters. So I think that's a good idea. And I think if, you know, people galvanize behind and stand behind his brother, that would really get their attention because it's absurd that they sent him back on the same route after this happened. And, you know, it's demonstrated. That's just ridiculous. So I think your point is well taken, Marcus.

Annette in Indianapolis. Annette, what's on your mind? Annette, what's on your mind? Annette? Hello? Oh, this is still Marcus. Okay, Marcus. I appreciate it, Marcus. Thanks a lot for calling. All right.

Yes. Okay, Annette? Yes. Hi, Martin. I just want to tell you thank you very much. You're doing a good work. Keep up the good job. You and your co-workers and I love you so much. Bye. I appreciate that. Thanks a lot for calling. All right.

Thank you very much. Mark Easterling, Greensboro, North Carolina. Hey, Mark, you on Roland Martintered, on the Black Star Network. Hi, Roland. Hi. Yes, I wanted to say, Alex, thank you for what you've been doing. I've been listening to you from the days that CNN to TV One, and you just don't point with just about everything. And I think the story story when you was talking about the woman yesterday that passed into jail,

this is exactly why that we need to watch your show because you are very informative on every issue that you can think of. And I just love what you're doing

and just keep on doing it. Oh, yeah, my brother got to say something, too. Yeah, Roland? Yeah. Yeah, can you hear me? Yeah, we got you. Go ahead. Oh, man.

Roland, let's see. I, too, love your show, man. You know that new show you got, Rowan with Rowan? Yep, our one-on-one interview show. Yeah, I love it. Oh, yeah, I love that show. I love the interviews, man. But the thing is, yeah,

now there's a couple of people I wish that you've gotten to. One is Morgan Freeman and James Earl Jones. You think you can get to them? We're working on it. I've never and James Earl Jones you think you can get to them? we're working on it, I've never met James Earl Jones we did have Morgan Freeman on the show talking about a movie that he was in we had him on the show a couple weeks ago

but certainly definitely want to make it happen but we can do a much longer one on one the next Rolling with Roland is going to be on Wednesday I'm talking to Michelle Roberts, the first black woman to ever lead a professional players union. She's the former executive director of the National Basketball Players Association. She just stepped down, retired in January.

So it's a fascinating conversation. So be sure to check that out on Wednesday. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, we're going to talk about James O'Donnell because he's getting up there years. I know.

I want him to come in here and say, I want him to come in here and say before you get to him. I would love to get to him. I've never met him, so I would love to have the conversation. Mark, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. I appreciate it, Dirk.

Sir, thank you very much. Let me go to Kalinda Lee. Kalinda, we'll say North Carolina. Kalinda, you're on Roland Martin on the Black Star Network. What's up? Hi, I'm going to say thank you. I've been a fan forever, but I have two questions. One, have you ever thought about having moderators in your YouTube chat room? Because we have a lot of racist people in here. I do have, we do have a moderator, but we are looking at adding a couple of more moderators.

That's one thing we are looking at. But here's the deal, though. That's also a function of having additional staff as well. So, but that's one of the things that we are talking about. Yep. Okay. And the second thing is, have you ever thought about maybe a meet and greet for your Roland Martin fan club?

Of course. Yeah. We would love to do meet and greets. The problem is COVID has impacted that. And so we would love to do that. I've actually done in a couple of cities. This was when we first launched. But COVID has actually impacted that in a great way.

So as we are moving forward, hopefully the more people get vaccinated, the more people who are, you know, practicing safe distancing, we're seeing a drop-off that's going to happen. So absolutely, we want to make that happen. And so when we've done our show from location, like when we were in Chicago, people have actually come by the show and actually sort of participated in watching on the the live broadcasts. Okay, cool. Thank you so much. Okay, I appreciate it.

Thanks a lot. Let's go to Louis Lyon in Baltimore, Maryland. Hey, Louis, how you doing? How you doing? Uncle Ro, can you hear me? Yes, sir. You're on the air. Go ahead.

What's your comment? Oh, sir. You're on the air. Go ahead. What's your comment? Oh, yes. I'm... The last name is Len. I'm from Mississippi. I wanted to comment on the story you did yesterday about the young woman dying in prison.

Yeah, Tanisha Campbell. Only you. Yeah, only you. And only you will report on a story like that. I actually shared the whole clip onto my Melanated People page. And people are like, why didn't I know this? That is why we need to be watching. We're on the mark on something.

Screw the feelings and all of that. Look, you are the only news section I even give two cracks about. Thank you so much. Revolution. Lose. I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. You know, the thing here, Michael, when we think about a lot of these stories, part of the issue

is when you don't have one follow-up, but also, for mainstream media, it has to rise to a certain level. Basically, the Black outrage has to exist on social in order for

people to go, oh, maybe now we're going to cover that story. Yeah, and that's one of the reasons why African-American-owned media is so important, not just African-American-targeted, but African-American-owned media, so we can make those decisions. Somebody can call us and we can cover those stories, one. But two, this is why you have to have a two-pred strategy. Just can't be one strategy. This is why also you have to have African-American producers and executive producers at these networks, at these cable networks, not just hosts, but people who can determine content of these shows as well. So we can get that message out on multiple platforms. But this is extremely important. That's why it's important. All the people that say we need to build our own,

that's why it's important to support the Black Star Media Network. Absolutely. All right, we're going to take a couple more phone calls before we go to break. Cantus Mahan, Richmond, Virginia. Cantus, you're on Roller Martin Unfiltered. Good evening, Roland. Good evening, Piano. Hope everybody is doing okay.

Is that Candace or Cantus? It's Candace. Okay, gotcha. All right, go right ahead. Good evening. I hope everybody is doing well. I just wanted to say thank you so much for the stories you cover.

It really has been such a great enhancement to my life. I appreciate you. I appreciate all the contributors. Um, I want to give a special shout out to Dr. Malvo and Dr. Carr. I love y'all. Y'all can adopt me. Um, so I'm looking around the studio this morning.

I'm trying to see where can we make an HBCU wall? Like you have a wall for HBCU paraphernalia. You know, that was me on your Instagram. You were looking real good in that orange and blue. So we can keep that up. Well, we have a lot of murals up. And so wall space is taken. So there is a possibility if we do one. Well, one of the things I'm going to do, because I do have this here.

So we have different artifacts up here. So I've got a number of hats that HBCUs have given me. So probably what I can do is I can probably put some of those on the shelving here as well. Some of these awards, we've gotten it. When we did the tour in here in our kitchen, there are three of the honorary degrees that I've actually gotten six, but three of the ones that we have are from HBCUs. And so we have HBCU stuff sort of all over. So there's no one particular place. And so we've got awards down the hallway. We've got some other stuff on the wall there. And so we're still adding to the studio.

And so we're still adding pieces to it. So that's all possible. But remember, it's also why we're the gear. So we're wearing the gear on the show. You're also seeing it as well. That's true. All right. gear. When the gear on the show, you're also seeing it as well. That's true. All right. Well, keep up the good work, and I appreciate everything you do.

Take care. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Let's go to, let's see here. Richard Ware. Richard is in Dallas. Richard, what's up? Yeah.

Hey, Rowan. Yep. How you doing, brother's up? Yeah. Hey, Roland. Yep. How you doing, brother Roland? Great. How are you? Yeah, I'm in Dallas, Texas, but I'm from Detroit, Michigan, and I'm also a good friend of Wayne Walker. And I just got to come in and represent.

Go ahead. Because you guys dragged him through the mud there, especially the sister on your show talking about his appearance. Are you being kind? Yeah, I don't think she should be talking like that. He's a handsome brother and so am I. We're also educated

and we're very respectful of the sisters. We love our sisters. He can only be so respectful talking like that online. He only asked a question. He asked a question. It had nothing to do with him. What was inappropriate about it?

It's social media. It's free speech. You're a lawyer, right? Free speech or not, you are still policing a woman's body that you have no control over regardless. He didn't police her body. He didn't stop her from wearing whatever she wanted to wear.

She wore it and he commented on it. That's not what I was saying. And he asked the question. Free speech is a woman's body. But here's the deal, though. Okay, all right. So you say it was free speech. Yeah, yeah.

But here's the deal. Free speech also has consequences. Meaning, you can ask a question on social media and folk gonna respond. Absolutely. So what happened was he... Here's what happened.

Richard, he asked a question. Yes, sir. Here's what happened. Richard, he asked a question. Yes, sir. He got an answer. Yes, sir. He got an answer. And guess what? It was a critique. It was a critique characterizing. And at the same time, you won't bring up the subject matter and you won't enlighten people or you

won't enhance people's knowledge of misogynism, as you call it. I don't think it was misogyny. Actually, Richard, here's where I disagree. Here's where I disagree, because y'all go ahead and pull it up. So I ask questions all the time, okay? And so one of the things that you do when you ask a question, you might want to add a little bit more to it so people understand why you're asking the question.

So I've done it. I've posted things. And so when you, no, that's not it, y'all. Thank you. That's it. So no, no, God, this is the wrong one. Okay, but that's the wrong one. So this one right here is the guy, Justin, he was responding to him.

So when he asked the question, he said, Sidney Conner, women's basketball coach, is her outfit appropriate as a basketball coach? Now, even if you can ask that question, the problem is when you write something on social media, no one knows tone. No one knows context. No, no, no, no.

So what you have to do is, you have to actually provide that in your question so people won't assume that you're judging. Okay. Well, you know what they say about assuming. Everybody has one. But Richard, again. Can I take this one? Yeah, I'm going to come right to you.

But Richard, again, my advice to Wayne, as somebody who does this all the time, when you're asking a question, never leave it so wide open where people will assume what your motive is. You better make it real clear. Kelly, go. For me, it's not even about assuming. As someone who is on social media all the time and gets into intellectual debates all the time, more or less because that's my job. The issue that I personally had with that post, because I saw the original post come up on my feed, and the issue that I have with it isn't the fact that it's just a question, it's that your friend thinks it's just

a question. She was dressed appropriately for the event that she was attending, which is her job. Why do you think that you have space or room to talk about a person's outfit in which you have no idea the context in which she's there for. And specifically when it comes to Black women in remotely stylish attire for work, it's like the minute that you see a curve, the minute that you see a hint of cleavage, the minute that you see anything that you might find sexually attractive on any level, all of a sudden it's inappropriate

because your mind went somewhere else. Not because it wasn't about it being, it wasn't about it being, it was a question. It wasn't about it being sexually attractive. Because the brother, and this, this brings me to that comment that you made saying that he looks like a Q-tip. The brother is handsome. My brother, I've been knowing him for all my life. We both, we all handsome and educated. That was an angry black woman.

Everybody don't think I'm cute either. If you want to use that, if you want to use that, that thread, that energy, I think that that comment was a black woman, an angry black woman comment. That wasn't appropriate to me. And the comment that your friend made was entirely misogynistic,

and that's why you get bread. He asked a question. He asked a question. It's not just a question. But Richard, but Richard, but Richard. And that is not just a question. It is a misogyny. But Richard, hold on, hold on.

Hold on, Richard, Richard, Richard, hold on. Hold on. Richard, Richard, hold on. Richard, Richard, Richard, hold on. Hold on. Richard, Richard, hold on. Richard, Richard, Richard, hold on. Richard, you're still talking. Hold on, Richard. I'm going to let you respond. Just hold on.

Here's the point that I think that you're missing. When he says Sidney Carter, women's basketball coach, is her outfit appropriate as a basketball coach? Here's what that says. So do you think it's not appropriate? So you're raising the question, why? Why are you raising the question? You're asking two questions.

No, no, no, hold on. You're asking three questions essentially because you said, is it not appropriate? So hold on. Then you can ask, is it appropriate? And then you can ask why. But here's the deal. Why is it appropriate or why not? So does he think it's appropriate or not?

Yes or no? When I spoke to him, he didn't really think much of it. He just asked because when he saw it, he was like, hmm. Okay, well, do you think that this is appropriate? Stop. Right there. Right there. Stop. Hold on. You said he saw it. He went, hmm. Do you think this is appropriate?

Which means... I mean, I'm not quoting him. No, no, no. And I wasn't there when he did. No, no, no. Richard, Richard. But speaking with him and speaking with him. I'm unpacking. It wasn't there when he did, when he put the... No, Richard, Richard, Richard. But speaking with him, speaking with him... I'm unpacking. It wasn't meant to be negative. But Richard, I'm unpacking.

It wasn't meant to be negative or bashful. Hold on, hold on, hold on. See, Richard, Richard, here's the deal, though. Here's how you flip it. I saw this photo. I think she looks great. But do you think it's appropriate? I think she looks great. No, no, no, no, no. I think she looks great. You didn think it's appropriate I think she looks great

No no no no Richard you didn't listen to what I just said No no no hold up Listen this is what he didn't do If he saw the photo and said Wow Look at this coach I think she looks great

Do you think it's appropriate Now what you've done is you provided context. Now what you're doing is you might be purposely asking the question to elicit a response. I have this thing called random question of the day where I'll do that. And so people respond. It's just a random question of the day, but it's how you ask. The point I'm stating, again, when people don't know your intent, social media will see it and then will assume, look, look, I

know what that's like when I cracked on a Super Bowl commercial in 2012 and I was cracking on it because it was a soccer player and it was taken as I was attacking gay people. I got suspended from seeing it for five weeks. People attacking me, all kinds of stuff, and had nothing to do with gay people.

But again, the difference with social media, you can ask something, but what you don't control is how a person infers what you mean. They can say you're implying this. And so that's what happened with Wayne. So I think he learned a big lesson. Yeah, well, I hope you give him the same platform at least at some point. Look, I sent him a tweet and said,

you know, to defend himself. Richard, I responded to him on Twitter. I said, do you want to come on and have a conversation about it? He didn't respond. I know, I know. He told me. No, no, no, to him on Twitter. I said, do you want to come on and have a conversation about it? He didn't respond. I know. I know. He told me.

No, no, no, but you said it. He told me, and he's pontificating that. He is. He's fine. He's thinking about it. Yeah, okay. But at the same time, when I saw this show, he hasn't seen it yet. He hasn't seen this show yet.

Well, here's the deal. He's going to watch it this evening because he's had a previous engagement. But he's going to watch this show, and he may respond to you. Well, here's the deal, though. Directly or indirectly. Here's the deal. I ain't afraid to have a conversation. All right.

Richard, I got to go. I'm not afraid of that smoke either. I appreciate it. Now, hold on. First, you said he ain't afraid of that smoke. Now, see, Richard, it's a whole different conversation. Because, see, Richard, see, Richard, let me help you right there. I said I ain't afraid to have that

conversation. You said he ain't afraid of that smoke. Richard, if I bring smoke, his ass should be afraid. My advice, he should accept the conversation. Now, if he

wants smoke, my advice, don't ask for an ass whooping, cause you might get it. So let him know, just let him know. So don't throw smoke, cause when you say smoke, it's like when Bernie Mac said, oh, you assuming a different position. He said, I know what that position is.

You don't want that one. Wayne might want to just have a conversation. All right, Richard. I appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot. I'm going to take one more caller. Let me see here. All right.

You know what? Okay, I'm going to hold the callers. I'm going to go to a break. I got one more break. Let me knock the break out, and I'll be back right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. ТРЕВОЖНАЯ МУЗЫКА The leverage that the players have is that we cannot be replaced. These are the best basketball players on the planet. The league can't say, okay, you're all fired.

We're going to get some more. Who's watching that, right? The dance is to make it not worth their while to lock us out. No one's making any money if you try locking these men out. And I said to Adam, you know, I don't mind a fight. That's what I do. Y'all wanna lose all this money.

Y'all want us waned? Right, let's do that. There's some things you can say are unacceptable, and I think I can probably believe it. But when I say that there's something unacceptable, you should also believe it. At the end of the day, I know my guys aren't gonna make any money

if you lock us out, but you know what else? You're not either. Good job, good pay, good life. Would you be willing to walk away from it to achieve real wealth? Well, that's exactly what this woman did. And boy, did it pay off. Once you make the decision that this is the direction that you're going to go in, I do believe that there's power in having a decided heart.

Hear her story on the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's Wealth Coach, on Blackstar Network. Hi, this is Essence Atkins. Hey, I'm Deion Cole from Blackist. Hey, everybody, this is your man Fred Hammond, and you're watching Roland Martin, my man, Unfiltered. CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY W-K-N-O, y'all. The whole lot of talk about the great resignation, and one of the professions being hit the hardest is teaching. Teachers are quitting at alarming rates for a variety of reasons,

which includes abandoning the classroom, burnout, lack of resources, low pay, and also, of course, all the back and forth when it comes to COVID. A new poll by the National Education Association, the country's largest teachers union, found 90% of teachers surveyed experienced burnout and 55% plan to leave the profession sooner because of the pandemic. Joining me now from Charlotte, North Carolina, is educator and author Dr. Tommy A. Watson.

Dr. Watson, how are you doing? I'm doing great. How are you doing, my brother? Doing great. All right, so how do we slow this down, stop it, reverse it? Because one of the things that I've heard, for example, my brother taught, an executive chef, working in the school, decided to teach, and frankly was frustrated because he wanted to get paid based upon his worth. And they literally said, well, you know, the system that is set up is really based upon seniority.

And like essentially you work for a number of years and you get your money down the line when it comes to pension. This generation ain't rolling with that. No, not at all. And it's a struggle right now. You know, Roland, even prior to the pandemic, the education enterprise was struggling with getting educators into the system. And now as we look and go up

and look at the education enterprise, we're seeing that more and more of our black teachers in particular are leaving the enterprise. And what you see is being a teacher is very very difficult because you know teachers do a lot with lesson plans grading they're asked to do a lot on top of that you throw covid in there on top of that as an african-american teacher that only makes up african-american teachers makes up seven percent of teaching enterprise in those schools typically african-american teachers have to be advocates for our black kids because those are the kids makes up 7% of teaching enterprise. In those schools, typically African-American teachers

have to be advocates for our black kids because those are the kids who are being suspended or often the other kids. Those are the kids who aren't getting access to the high level classes. So those black teachers have to become advocates for those black kids in those schools, which means it causes some dissension

between them and their colleagues. And what we're finding over and over again for the reasons many of the black professionals are leaving is because many of them are also feeling isolated in those environments, Roland. So there are a lot of things that we have to do to counter that. And when it comes to retention in our schools, we have to start providing opportunities for more diversity and cultural training, and we can't simply leave it on the black teachers. The black teacher can't teach everyone in the district or the building why it's important to love on black kids just like you love on the white kids.

Go ahead. I'm sorry. How do we fix it? How do we change it? I mean, how to make that adjustment? Well, you know, we have to, as a district, I mean, there's some districts that are doing this very well. The whole concept of cultural competence can't just simply be something that happens at the building level. It has to happen at the system level and be supported by everyone in the system. So, you know, those districts that are doing it and doing it well, we're seeing that they are becoming more open to hiring more African Americans. They're going to the HBCUs and recruiting from those schools and seeing the value of having our black teachers in the school. And we're going to those HBCUs. It's not just about going there, picking up kids, you know, to come be teachers, but creating a genuine relationship with those with those colleges as well.

You know, advertising those colleges to not only your black students in the district, but all students, all teachers should know about those things. And then, you know, we have to also increase opportunities for more African-Americans to be able to be in the pipeline of the education enterprise at the HR level, at the superintendent level, at the district curriculum level. So when hiring takes place, those folks are at the table. Because one of the things we're seeing at the NFL right now, Roland, is that not enough African-Americans are at the table when the hiring decisions are taking place. So we're losing out on a lot of talent because we don't have those African-Americans at the table. And then, you know, giving those

teachers a chance, Roland, to see that there are opportunities beyond the classroom is going to be very, very important. Because, again, like you just mentioned for your brother, teacher pay, unfortunately, is not very high. But as they evolve in the educational enterprise, the pay increases tremendously. So that can be very, very inspiring and hopeful to a lot of the educators out there. And then also, you know, you and I are both members of fraternities. Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Incorporated, shout out, you know, getting those folks in the school building. That's too little youth group. You know, we got to get those folks in the classroom. We

got to get the alpha men in the classroom to support those educators out there who are struggling. Because again, Roland, many of them are feeling very, very isolated in the system and burned out. Questions for panel. First up, Matt. So my question, Dr. Watson, is we've seen teachers and education become extremely politicized during the pandemic, just in a way that I think is ruinous. But notwithstanding that, my question for you is what have you seen unions do in response to that? How are unions supporting teachers and pushing back against a lot of that negative politicization that we see of the teaching profession right now? Yeah, that's a great question. And, you know, I think at this point, I think many of them are

still scrambling to try to figure it out. Because during the pandemic, we had the pandemic taking place. We had the social unrest taking place. So there's been a lot of scrambling taking place around the country. And I'm not sure that the districts and the unions have actually figured that out as of yet. Great question. Kelly. What do you think is going to be the next trend when it comes to teachers and education. Because what I'm seeing right now is a lot of pushback on, frankly, getting things taught that need to be taught, such as history, such as different ways of doing math. Common Core doesn't need to be the only one. And there's a reason why teachers are so burnt out. It's beyond just, you know, the COVID-related issues.

It's the overcrowding. It's the politics. It's the administration. It's so much. And frankly, I don't blame them. So what do you think is going to, is the next step after that? What is the trend to either combat this or get past it?

Yeah, you know, and that's a great question as well. You know, I think right now we have really pushed teachers in the midst of No Child Left Behind to focus so much on testing and the end result that there's been a strain in the relationships. So what I would like to see the next train to take place, Kelly, would to be more focused on relationships because we know that when those students have access to great teachers who actually care about them our students do well. Yes, testing is important. Yes, knowing math and reading is important. However, those relationships are just as important. So we're hearing a lot of talk about the social and emotional needs of the students being addressed. And I think that's very very very important because not only are those needs needing to be met for the students they also need to be met for the educators who are serving the students as well because when those kids come in the building with issues those issues become the issues of the of the teachers and support staff as well so I think that's going to be one of the trends that we have to move to a place where we're taking care of the mental health and social needs of both the students and the teachers, if that makes sense. All right. Let's go to Michael. Michael, your question.

Hey, thanks, Dr. Watson. My question, and Kelly and Matt hit on it a little bit, my question is dealing with critical race theory and this false attack on critical race theory, but especially during the month of February, which is African American History Month, is dealing with critical race theory and this false attack on critical race theory, but especially during the month of February, which is African American History Month, Black History Month, because I'm seeing stories like out of Alabama and other places where Black History Month lessons are being attacked and saying, oh, they're teaching critical race theory. How do we move forward with this? Because this can become very discouraging to people who may want to take up the teaching profession.

How do we move forward with this? Absolutely. I think we cannot let our foot up off the gas. I think we have to continue to teach it. We have to be willing to stand up and address those individuals who have an issue with it, because there are a lot of things that are taught in school that have been controversial. And this should even be controversial, you know, a matter of empowering young people, whether it be black and white across the board, they should know about this type of history. So I think what we cannot do is allow these political agendas to force our teachers to be, become afraid and stop teaching those things. And our teachers need the support of the outside communities. They need support of our other political figures who are supporting them in that.

They need the support of our teachers. Excuse me, of our parents, as well as our students to let them know, hey, we want to know about that subject matter, and we're not backing down no matter what you're talking about. All right, then. Well, look, we certainly appreciate it, Dr. Wilson-Watson.

If folks want to assist, want to help, how can they reach you? Absolutely. They can contact me at tawatson.com. We're going to be hosting a town hall meeting here on February 23rd to talk more about this issue. We're going to be hearing from students, parents, educators, employers, because this is an issue that doesn't just simply isolate itself to teachers. There's a lot of folks who need to be involved in this,

and we'd love to have people kind of go to my website, T.A. Washington.com, and reach out to us and participate in this conversation so that we can support all teachers in being successful and doing the work that they need to do. All right, then. We truly appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot. Take care.

All right, folks. Our final story of the day. Y'all remember last night we showed you this video of a sister who had a couple of words to say about her inability to play spades. Y'all remember this? To say one thing. Listen, if you that serious about the spades game, don't ask me to play. Now, I just got kicked the fuck up out of my grandma house, my own grandma house, at family game night

cause I didn't know I had a dime. Listen, I need y'all to understand, everybody don't know how to play that shit. Who even invented the game spades? They don't even play that at the casino. That's not even a real game. Motherfucker wanna un-cousin me now. Because I, first of all, what is even the word renege?

Like, where did that even come from? That sound racist as fuck to me. And the crazy part is, we ain't even playing for no money. We is playing for bragging rights. I said I wasn't never doing that shit again last year when my strong- ass cousin broke my table slamming the card down on the table. Because what you got to be so aggressive for?

Just ruined my goddamn life. Just made me so mad for real. Because how you that mad about a spades game? Everybody don't know how to play spades. I'm one of them people. And don't ask me to play again because I made plans.

Man, that shit is, that's, that's an abomination under God for y'all blood pressure to get that fucking high over a card game. Y'all don't even go that hard on Uno. Fuck they mean, get out, get out. This is my grandma house. I left though, but still, that's my grandma house. And she ain't say nothing. Straight up, for real. If it ain't deuces, don't ask me to play. I'm ain't playing space. I'm ain't playing catfish, goldfish, whatever the fuck it's called. I'm ain't playing nothing but deuces. That's it.

Or una. Like, I'm really trying to figure out what possessed my cousin to punch the wall. Why don't you punch the wall? What's the matter? You ain't see the, what led? What? What does that even mean?

Cards threw out the king of diamond. My other cards threw out the two of diamond. My other cards threw out the eight of diamond. I ain't had no diamond. I didn't think. So I threw out the three of spades. You snapped because I threw out the three of spades. Cards come right back, play another diamond.

I see, oh shit, damn, I did have a diamond. Boom. I put my diamond on the table. You know what I'm saying? This motherfucker flipped the whole table over. I don't even understand what we went wrong. The fuck? I mean that shit from the bottom of my empty heart. If y'all finna get real emotional about playing a game of spades, don't ask me to play. I ain't playing. But fuck. Shit.

Now I'm hungry. All the nachos over there. Chicken. Italian beefs. Ain't shit here for me to eat, y'all. Don't kick me out of my grandma's house. I couldn't even get a fucking plate. All right.

Joining us now, she goes by the name Funny Ass Tierra from Chicago. Hey. How you doing? I'm okay. Alright then, so let everybody know, okay, was that for real real, or was that one of your funny videos? So

it's somewhat for real. What does that mean? It was family game night. I did mess up playing spades, but they didn't kick me out. Everybody snapped, but they didn't kick me out. They everybody snapped, but they didn't kick me out. I'm not I was able to get us to go play. So so you you were you were doing your funny. You were doing your thing. Kelly

can't control herself. She can't control herself at all. Oh, when we played the, when I saw the video, Earthquake posted on his page. I posted up by him. We played last night. People in the chat are absolutely cracking up. And one of the reasons why they're laughing so much is because a lot of people identify

with it. Those of us who know how to play spades have run up against folk like you who's cleaning shit up. It's so embarrassing because every time I say that, even at different gatherings, people be like, you can't play spades.

And I don't know exactly where I get lost. I think I get lost once I get too deep into the game and I think I got this shit down and then I play something stupid and everybody mad and foaming at the mouth. So, but, but, but, but say, but if you truly deep into the game, then you fully are aware

of cards and how they move and what got played and what's likely to steal out. I mean, that's the thing you, you got to concentrate when you play spades. Obviously, obviously I'm telling you because me, what's it called, reneging, I almost had my cousin hit me and he a man. I said, you gonna hit me? Because if you hit, I'm calling the police. You're not gonna put

your hands on me. Not about no spades game, baby. But look, I'm telling you right now, space is a serious thing. I see. But wait, I don't understand when they say what led. Okay, I know

now, obviously, because put your shoulders back up, bro. Uncross your arms. You're getting worse than them. And my whole thing is how are y'all going to tell me, sit down, cuz. We going to show you, cuz.

We got it. And I'm like, y'all remember what happened last year? They're like, don't worry about it. We got it. I mess up, and y'all get all in your feelings box. Like, what's going on? My grandma didn't say nothing. She just let the whole house go in on me.

They calling me ball head. Like, all types of stuff. I'm like, y'all tripping, for real. It ain't even that serious. But talking trash is a part of spades. Yeah, I don't like that part. I ain't with that part. How the hell you a...

Okay, are you an actual comedian? I am. I'm a stand-up comedian, born and bred here in Chicago. So how you a stand-up comedian and you ain't... Talking trash in spades... Because I you ain't... Talking trash in space... Because I wasn't at work.

That was family game night. I was not at work. That was family game night. No, no, no. See, you don't understand. You don't understand. I might be at work. Here's a perfect example. I might be at work.

Other day, Brittany Ash was on her phone on social media during the middle of the show. I busted her ass in the middle of the show. I didn't wait until the show was over and then say, Brittany, come into my office. I said, Brittany, put that goddamn phone down. That's sad. Yeah, Brittany, put that damn song down. So even when we not on the air, I crack on. Look, I crack on people all the time. I don't understand, though.

Shit talking goes to a whole nother level when you playing space. Yes! Everybody get all strong. Testosterone, be it up, I'm fucking sweating in they pits. They slam the cards down. Yes! I'm telling you, my grandma wall got a couple holes in it.

And I guarantee they either came from Tunk, They slam the cards down. I'm telling you, my grandma wall got a couple holes in it, and I guarantee they either came from Tunk, Big Whiz, or Spades. Look, I don't hit walls, but if you're going to play Spades, get your ass a real table. And really, it should be a card table. So that way, when you slam it down, the table, like, jumps. Okay. I'm going to invest in one of those for my grandma.

But I don't know if I'm going over that no time soon. That shit really hurt my feelings. No, you need to go practice. Mm-mm. I'm ain't practicing. Hold up. Don't you sit in and work on your routine? Don't you get up and stay?

Hold up. Let me work through some jokes. Let me refine my jokes so they ready. I get paid for that. We ain't even playing. And that's the thing. You ain't even playing space for money. I understand.

Kelly, what you mean you understand? You can't play? Oh, no, I can play. But I can play. But because I'm ready to jump down your throat. Right? Right? Hey, look, I be snatching.

Look, I'm going to snatch your black card and your soul. But you know what? With me posting this video, this video got over 2.7 million views. And it's so many people in the comments saying that they can't play either. So I don't even feel bad about it. That means y'all need to go to no playing spades ass convention. Y'all need to have nationwide meetups. We probably going to have more fun than y'all.

No playing spades ass black people. We going to be meeting at Buffalo Wild Wings or we're going to be meeting at a soul food restaurant. And that's fine. And that's fine. We can play Keno. We can play Paquino. We can play Doofus. And her ass just. We could play Keno. We could play Pekino. We could play Doofus. And her ass just say Pekino.

Yeah, we could play. I mean, that's my favorite thing. I'm down for some Keno, baby. Don't let this man call you when he's showing bully you. We ain't got to play spades. Fuck that. I don't want to play spades. Hold up, hold up, Matt.

Can your ass play spades? That's not the point, brother. No, no, no, no, no. Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. Answer the damn question. Can yo ass play spades?

Can you? No. Oh, see? Right there. See? Oh, see, right there? I knew you were Mike McDaniel, brother. I knew yo ass was fraudulent.

Right there. Right there. Right there. All the damn law books behind you, and you can't play no damn spades. Hell, the Supreme Court ruled on that shit. I can't. I can't. I'm not going to do it. I am. No. Don't ask me to sit down and play.

Now, Michael, your ass in Detroit. Uh-huh. Can you play spades? I haven't played. I used to be able to. I haven't played. God damn. Oh, hell no.

What the hell is I used to play spades? No, Mike, it's a simple-ass question. Can your ass play spades or not? I used to play basketball, and I stopped running with cats when I was 35, so I didn't blow an ACL. But put the basketball in my hand, my ass can still hoop. Now answer the goddamn question. Can you play spades

or not? I'll probably let this man bully you, Mike. What'd you say, Mike? Stay strong. I probably can. I haven't tried to play spades in 20 years. Don't say no silly-ass shit like, I probably. First of all, how in the hell you ain't played spades in 20 years. Nobody say no silly ass shit like I probably. First of all, how in the hell you haven't played spades in 20 years? You ain't been to no black parties?

You ain't been to no black family gatherings? Where in the hell you been? I have. But I didn't play spades. I didn't play spades. I played Uno. I can play poker. I can play poker, okay?

But I ain't played spades. I can play chess. I. Mike, I can play chess. I'm a very strong chess player. Mike, the kiddie-ass table, play Uno. Mike, do you realize that Uno is the game? I can play poker. Do you realize Uno is the game? Let me put it like this. Let me put it like this.

Now, hang on. Mike, Uno is the game little-ass kids play when they can't play. Mike, let me explain to you the black escalation of games, okay, when it comes to cards. See, clearly, your ass don't know. I'm going to start a support group because this is ridiculous. I feel like we're being bullied right now. I haven't tried to play Spade.

No, funny-ass, Tierra, let me help your ass out too, okay? It's three damn card games. It's three. Let me hear them. That are universal black games. One, your ass start with uno, okay? Okay. Cards got you start with uno, okay?

Your ass then go to spades. When you grown, your ass go to bid whist. Okay? Here we go. So you ain't gonna call deuces in there nowhere? No, no, no, no. Say what? Deuces, don't nobody play deuces. Girl, that's like some shit you play

when it's just two of y'all. Spades is for y'all, okay? Okay? It's Uno. It's Uno. Spades. Be it whist. So what is this shit they was calling cutthroat? Because now they like, well, we're going to play cutthroat. What's cutthroat?

Because that's spades. No, that's some Chicago shit. I don't know. Oh, okay. Because I know it was like every man for they self. No, that ain't spades. Spades is two people. Matt, you know what the hell I'm talking about. Clearly, Michael, you having brain freeze. No, I played Spades years ago.

But I played poker. What kind of black gatherings do y'all have? What kind of who? They can play cards. I played poker. Now, I played strip poker more recently than I have spade. Michael, ain't nobody trying to see your butt in a ass. That was like 15 years ago.

Ain't nobody trying to see your butt in a ass playing no poker. Ain't nobody stripping in spades. No, I won. Ain't nobody stripping in Ben West. Ben West. Okay, if you playing strip uno, that's y'all weird ass family. That was a lot of information. That wasn't a family event. That was a family event. All I'm saying... That was a lot of information. That wasn't a family event.

That was a family event. All I'm saying here is this. Tia, I'm telling you right now. When we come back to Chicago, you know what? I'm going to go ahead. We need to... We're probably going to do a space tournament. I ain't coming to that shit. Y'all know. You need

to go sit your ass on black YouTube and just for the whole weekend, just watch some damn videos to learn how to play damn spades. I thought I was doing well. I didn't see the damn diamond. Hold on.

How you not see the diamond? Because it's the way my hands are. Hold on. Let me get my damn deck of cards. I'll be right back. I had all my reds right here and I had all my blacks. So I thought that's not way to organize your cards.

First of all, your ass just broke the damn rules right there. That's not how you organize your cards. Kelly, tell her ass again. You're supposed to separate. Kelly, tell her ass again. Tell her again. You don't organize it by color. You organize it by the symbols.

You know, club, spade, diamond. Kelly, what the hell are you talking about? No, you don't. That's how I do it. No, no. Kelly, Kelly. You do. Oh, by books.

Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. No, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. You organize by symbol and color. Matt, you don't know what the hell we talking about. So Matt, Matt, stop talking. Stop talking. So you know what? Let me go and help you out.

See, first of all, Tiara, you see, I got some damn cards with me, okay? Okay. So let me help you out, Tiara. You see this right here? Pretend we playing space. Let me come close to the camera. Come on. You see this right here? Pretend we playing spades. Let me come close to the camera. Come on. You see this right here?

Mm-hmm. Okay. These right here are spades. Right. Then what you do is you put your diamonds or your hearts, right, you go black, red. Then you go your clubs. You got clubs.

Black, then you go hearts red. See, red, black, red, black. You break that shit up. You don't put the hearts and the diamonds next to each other because your ass get them confused. You don't put the damn- No, no, no. You don't put the spades and the clubs next to each other

because your ass gonna get them confused. You go black, red, black, red. That's how your ass going to get them confused. You go black, red, black, red. That's how your ass put the damn cards together. That's why you didn't see that damn diamond. Look, look how much, look how, look how aggressive he is. See what spades do to black people? Y'all see what

spades do to black people? No, but you sitting here over here, I ain't know how I had a diamond. I didn't know. Because it was next to the damn hearts. I said I was sorry, shit I had a diamond. Yeah. I didn't know. Because it was next to the damn hearts. I said I was sorry, shit. It's okay. Okay, so here's my thing. Shout out to Bowie State University and HBCUs across the board,

because if it was not for them, I would not know how to play spades. Why? Your grandparent didn't play? I'm sorry? Yo, hold up. Where you from? I'm sorry? Yo, hold up. Where you from? I didn't grow up with spades. Where you from?

I didn't. I'm from D.C. I'm telling you, it's obviously a right to pass. I'm from D.C. I did not play spades. My parents didn't play spades around me. My grandparents didn't play cards around me. Oh, excuse us.

Hold up. What y'all play? Pekino? No, we didn't play games like that. We honestly didn't play games like that. What were y'all doing? Playing life? No.

We were playing all the time. I bet y'all had the sorry board game, right? No. What y'all do? I mean, we did everything except like die hard. What y'all do? Y'all play games? Not from my, from what I recall, not really.

Not like during cookouts and stuff. We were a football family. So like we watched a lot of football, a lot of sports, did a lot of cookouts, a lot of crab boils. Oh, no, we got all up. You can stop right there because y'all bougie. That's what it is. We were.

See, right there. See, I knew I was going to get to it. See, Matt, your ass probably bougie too. Y'all probably so bougie. We did P-Knuckle. I remember we did Double Dead P-Knuckle, but I don't know how to play that. probably so... We did P-knuckle. I remember we did double-deck P-knuckle, but I don't know how to play that. Did her ass just say P-knuckle?

That's crazy. Matt, Matt, Matt, go on with your bougie comment, Matt. Ten times on the air, I'm glad to throw bones with you anytime. You ain't mention nothing about no bones, Roland. That's what we play spades. Could we discuss the spades?

That's why. Well, you want to know what we play? It's not about being bougie. It's about throwing bones. We discuss the spades, Matt. Matt, can you play spades. That's why. You want to know what we play? It's not about being bougie. It's about throwing bones. We're discussing spades, Matt. Matt, can you play spades? Yes, but I'm not good. But that's not the point.

Uh-uh, right there. You ain't good. See? That's your damn problem. I'm so happy. That's the damn problem for going to the University of Texas. See, right there. I didn't go to Texas.

Where you going? I went to Howard. I went to Howard, where I learned how to play. I went to Howard, where I learned how to play. How'd your ass go to Howard and you know how to play spades? I'm not good. I don't know how to play spades like that, though. What in the world was happening at, damn it, I went to Texas A&M and know how to play spades? Probably because I went to Jack J's high school.

And probably because I had a black family where we played cards. We wasn't bougie like Kelly Faye. She's so mad. Tiara, look. I got to go. My barber waiting to cut my hair. I got to go to Nigeria tomorrow. Before you go, wait.

Before you go, we met before. I met you. I partied with you. We had a blast at a BET event like two years ago. And I took a picture with you. I sent it in for them to show it with you. We had a blast at a BET event like two years ago. And I took a picture with you. I sent it in for them to show it to you. But we had so much fun. The BET, I don't know, what event was that?

That was in 2020. What happened to all your hair? I cut it. That was a wig. What? She got long-ass hair. Whatever. Well, y'all, first of all, all y'all in the control room,

shut up, OK? Y'all in the control room, shut up. Okay? Y'all been messing up and shit the whole damn show, so I don't need to hear nothing from your ass, especially Lanny showing the wrong goddamn graphic. So be quiet. See? This is a black show.

This is how we do it. All right, Tiara. Look, so we're going to change your name to No Playing Spades-Ass Tiara. That's bad. I'm taking it. When you learn how to play Spades, we'll start calling you back Playing Spades Ass, Tiara. That's bad. When you learn how to play spades, we'll start calling you back Funny Ass Tiara, okay? That's bad. You come on back when you go to spades rehab. I'm going to start a support group.

I got us. Yeah, precisely. Do that. Hit me up. I'll help y'all out. DM me. I got you, baby. Thank y'all for having me.

You should reserve that domain name too and make some money off of it. Definitely. Michael, why don't you just stay the hell off of talking about poker? Why don't you just focus on goddamn space? Hey, I played space before. No, I played Jen Rummy. Mike, Mike, Mike. I played Jen Rummy

a lot more. Your ass just said Jen Rummy. That's the whitest game I can think of. When I was younger. Even bougie-ass Kelly said shit. We didn't play that. Michael, you embarrassing Detroit enough. That's it.

Funny-ass Sierra, we'll see you later. Please, we're going to lay hands on your damn suits. That's how you play spades, but damn it, we got to go. This is just embarrassing. It's just embarrassing. See y'all later.

Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. All right, y'all. We got to bounce. Y'all know how we – first of all, let me thank no-playing-spades-ass Matt. Let me thank bougie-ass Kelly when it comes to spades. And then let me thank – I don't know how he from Detroit, Michael. I need to reassess who – I haven't played how he from Detroit, Michael. I need to reassess. I haven't played Spades

in a long time. Because you ain't been a black people house in a long time. At least I can play, though. I'm bougie and proud. I'll own the bougie, but I can at least still play Spades. Thank God for Bowie State. Shit. All right. I'm going to have

to have a better vetting process for the panelists. I'm going to have to add Sp better vetting process for the panelists. I'm going to have to add spades to the list of did you watch all these black movies. All right, y'all. That's it. Y'all, here's the deal. I leave tomorrow for Liberia. I'm going to be there for the next 10 days. We're going to be broadcasting from Liberia for the covering of the 200th Bicentennial celebration.

It was a country that was founded by freed slaves in 1822. I will be there broadcasting. Half my team is already there. We're going to be leaving tomorrow night, so pray for us. We have our travels. We got some great things lined up. I'll be sitting down with the president of Liberia while we're there as well. We'll still have guest hosts while I'm here, so we'll be live streaming events all day when we're there, also i'll be broadcasting from there it's a huge event taking place on tuesday that we're going to be covering favor of uh and so we're looking forward to that and so folks it will tell us stay tuned to uh the black star network uh hey

i don't know anybody else who's doing it i know the other black owned media people not doing it so i don't know what they're doing but uh that's why we do what we do and so we appreciate it uh so again be sure to watch the show. My Michelle Roberts interview airs on Wednesday. We got new episodes next week, the Debra Owens show, Jackie Hill Martin show, Greg Carr show, Farage show every single day. A lot of things are happening here.

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