#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Rashad Robinson: From Presence to Power. Trump Targets Mail-In Ballots. Tuskegee Backlash

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

7.28.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Rashad Robinson: From Presence to Power. Trump Targets Mail-In Ballots. Tuskegee Backlash Civil Rights leader Rashad Robinson's new book "From Presence to Power: How to Take on the Fights that Matter-and Win" explains the difference between presence and power.  He'll be live in the studio.  Houston dentist, Dr. Letitia Plummer, wants to be the next Harris County, Texas Judge.  She'll be here to explain why she thinks she's the best person for the job.   The Trump Administration is going after mail-in ballots again.  We'll discuss how Tuskegee University's new dress code is sparking discussion about "anti-blackness."   And in tonight's Shop Black Star Network-Dot-com, COS-MOL-O-GY, a brand with a series of hair tools that make wash day feel effortless.  Black Star Network Partner: Chapter Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He led color change where he's. number of years and significant campaigns and wins. Now he has a new lookout when he talks about what really needs to happen in terms of how we move forward. The book is called Presence from Presence to Power, how to take on the fights that matter and when. So Rashar, glad to have you here. Everywhere I go, you probably get this as well.

People would say, I want to do something. I don't know what to do. And the average person says, I don't have any power. But you say they do. Yeah, I think that what the right wing has actually shown us is that they have totally changed how people can participate, how everyday people can engage. I mean, if you go to the gym, you see folks turning on Fox News and changing the channel, they're wearing their red caps and their jerseys. And as a result, shifting sort of the way that society works. What sort of happens in our schools and other sort of environmental spaces that we're living and operating?

in. And sometimes we're treating politics almost like it's a basketball game or it's theater. The folks are on the court, the players are on the court, the players are on the stage, and then we're watching from the outside and commenting. And I think one of the things that we have to recognize in it in this era, if we're going to get out of the mess that we're in, we're going to have to do some things to find our power. So part of what I've done in from presence to power, which is really a framework, a 21st century framework for how we understand taking on big tech, taking on Hollywood, taking on government, taking on all the forces that stand in your way, is that we're going to need more of us to find our power.

And I'm not just explaining it to you, I'm not just giving you concepts, but throughout the book, there are nine lessons, there are exercises in the book, take out a piece of paper, map sort of the things that you have in your disposal, and I ask really clear questions so that we can find our power in the singular, but also questions so that we can find our power in the plural. What I mean by that is finding sort of our ability to have, connect with the networks and finding our people and finding our tribe so that we can move forward in a different way. You cannot find your power, though, unless you understand the power of the collective. So what you described when it came to the right is what they've done,

they sort of all begin, how they move and operate, support one another, drive one another's content that builds this ecosystem, whether it's groups or with its media. You're absolutely right. I mean, the part of what they've done to be able to beat us in the media space is that they are. They're promoting one another. They're uplifting one another. They've built with their resources and money ways really for folks who are sort of emerging

content creators to be able to be monetized or not sort of afraid of their people being able to make money for reaching people and engaging voices. And so we are going to have to find new strategies and engage in new ways if we're going to win up against everything that's stacked up in our way. And so you've been such a pioneer role in in the media space, building an independent platform that has sort of launched other voices while at the same time reaching people in ways that few others are able to do. And we're going to need more Roland Martins, but we're also going to need to recognize that as we have these platforms, the ask and the demands and the political advocacy is also going to get better.

Far too often, we are not taking our fights to the corporations that are profiteering off of injustice. We are not taking our fights to the profiteers who are sort of gaining higher status through hierarchy in the face of our oppression. And so we're going to need more voices connecting and reaching. people more narrative infrastructure, we're also just going to need better campaigns. And what my book does is it walks through really clear essential lessons. But then I tell stories from the campaigns that I've been part of, the ones that I've won,

but many that we've lost along the way. And I helped to try to deconstruct those things. I mean, you covered very closely so many of the fights that I had with Mark Zuckerberg and Cheryl Sandberg, really fighting for change at Facebook because we weren't at a point where we could get the type of regulation at the federal level that was required. So I was going back and forth, and they would demand that I signed an NDA, and I refused. And they would put a big badge on my suit, and I would have to walk around their offices with that that said, no NDA. But because I didn't sign that NDA, I'm able to tell the readers how it actually works in those rooms.

How do you know whether or not you're in a dialogue versus a negotiation? Our opponents want to keep us in a dialogue. They want to keep us talking. They want to be able to say, we talk to those black folks. This is what they think. We're in conversation. We want to get to the point where we get to a negotiation, which means we have enough leverage to force them to do things that they don't want to do.

That means we can't take their money lots of times. That means we have to actually take on fights that sometimes might be uncomfortable. But if we're going to move the ball forward and actually get the type of change, it changes the circumstances that we're in, we're going to have to do some things different. And that's why I stepped back in this moment to write this book. And that's why I'm traveling the country to sort of offer a real intervention in this moment.

You also have the experience when it comes to fundraising. And let's just be honest. Part of this problem is that Democrats slash progressive donors have a totally different view than conservative Republicans. conservative Republican donors understand how you have to fund a movement. How significant is that being a problem in building this cohesive ecosystem? Because what the folks on the left don't, left or again, progressives don't like is they don't want dissension or disagreement. But that's just not how all of this works.

That's not how it all works. I mean, you couldn't be more right. I actually talk about in the book how the right wings billionaires, they're billionaires that fund their movement, are actually sometimes more radical than their activist. They actually want to push things even further. Ladies, we're kind of credit of y'alland, what y'all paying for home insurance in 2026? Free bed ranch.

And then, you know, sort of in our situation, on our side, our activists have to lead and sometimes drag our donors with us. And our, you know, if we go too far, sometimes the money will be removed. And so, you know, when we looked at all the money that came into racial justice movements in 2020, a lot of that money I simply didn't take because it came from corporations. And it came with the type of strings that, you know, made it very hard for us to make the unapologetic demands that we need. I think money is absolutely a part of the equation. But I think if we build enough power, if we build campaigns that are unignorable,

If we organize our people in ways that we are as consequential in election cycles or as consequential to corporations as we possibly can be, folks are going to have to find a way to fund us. You know, when I first started doing work around progressive prosecutors or doing work in the criminal justice system, there were very few funders that were actually funding that work. But over time, we became consequential in elections. We weren't just electing reform-minded district attorneys. we were actually turning out black voters who we could get to vote up and down the ballot. And as a result, donors needed to engage with us in a different way.

And so I think we have to be able to build campaigns and build efforts that we're not just going hat in hand with donors asking them what they want. Building efforts that are powerful enough that we force them to come to the table and try to fund and support and align with our work. But absolutely, resources are part of the table. But even if we have all the resources in the world, that's not going to cover up bad strategy. That's not going to cover up a power analysis

that doesn't actually understand that we have to take on profiteers, that we have to understand the role of perception, that we have to tell stories that are powerful enough to reach people, engage them, and activate them in ways that they're going to stay with us over time. So it does require resources, but far too often,

I've seen folks try to cover up bad strategy with money, and that doesn't get us anywhere either. Last question for you. I know you have to. Canadian women are looking for more. More out of themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are out of them. And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast.

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And I think what's happening is your point about accepting. appropriate our traditions. And I think what's happening is right now, people want a place to go. Yeah. People want a place to be involved with. And so they're asking, okay, but who do I join? Where do I join? And that to me, and being with all these organizations that we do have, frankly, a lot of them are risk averse and scared. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I mean, I give in the book some examples of the type of questions you can ask, the type of ways that you can kind of determine whether or not engaging in an activity or an effort is a good use of your time or engaging with an organization. The different types of organizations are good use of your time. And I think that's incredibly

important. Part of what the right wing has done is they have forced their organizations and their political leaders to respond and engage differently. And sometimes I think we're waiting for our organizations to do everything for us when we can actually force those to respond differently, or wondering where the Democrats are and why Democratic leaders aren't engaging. And I can think about so many moments where the right-wing, just line activists, have changed the incentive structure

for their elected officials. Politicians who were once considered institutionalists in the Senate are no longer institutionalists because they can't afford to be. And so we do have to change sort of what is expected, what the floor looks like, and what the ceiling looks like. I have a whole chapter on infrastructure in the book, which is not always a sexy term,

but I really do try to deconstruct it. I tell stories of the civil rights movement and talk about Bayard Rustin and Ella Baker going to Dr. King and building the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and why they built it. Not that we should build a new Southern Christian Leadership Conference, but they built it because they saw a gap. They saw that there were all these disconnected churches

and religious leaders, and they needed a stronger base of connected folks, and if they could get those folks aligned and engage, the sum total of that could be more than the individual parts. And that was a technology. It was an intervention at that moment. I think lots of times what happens on our side is we continue to look back at sort of the legacy of those moments and try to recreate them, not try to recreate the sort of strategic insight that came from it.

We need new interventions. You've been so powerful that sort of seeing the media landscape and not trying to create the old thing, but fighting the next war. And so our infrastructure of tomorrow is gonna have to be about fighting the next war. It's gonna have to be recognizing about what are the ways in which technology can be used

and what are the ways in which we need to recognize that it could be dragging us into the past. How do we use the tools of tomorrow? How do we build the infrastructure of tomorrow? And part of what my understanding is, entire career has been about, has been about using technology, has been about finding openings, has been about taking on campaigns where we have been David and we've taken on Goliath. And sort of in this next role, I want to go out and I want to make the interventions that help

us win more things. So this is a book that's also going to have a lot of backlash because I'm talking about corporations and I'm talking about corporate power. So I'm not going to be on every media outlet. And there's going to be a lot of places that are just not going to want to hear some of this. So I appreciate you always creating space for this. And I hope that those who are watching, those who are listening, recognize that in this moment, if you're tired of losing, and you win and win more things, that our opponents have a whole infrastructure for getting out our ideas. And so from presence to power is sort of my intervention in this moment, and hopefully an intervention for all of us that know that we have to do something different.

Well, as I sit here, the severe storm that is sitting over the nation's capital that's about to bring down some massive rain. There are severe storms happening all across this topic politically. And this is not the moment where we all run and seek shelter and never come out. We've got to get involved in this and be active because these people simply, if we do nothing, And as always say, if we're present, if we have no presence, then they're going to solidify the power. Y'all, the book is called From Presence to Power, How to Take on the Fights that Matter and Williamover, Chad Robinson. Shire, we appreciate it. Thank you, brother.

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entrepreneur author speaker out of dc as well and dr moustapulte i got leave former senior advisor for by the justice at the EPA, let them all three of you here. I mean, Cooney is real simple. What Rashad talked about is so important that people are going to have to understand that you can't sit on the sidelines if you want to see change.

And it's not going to happen just because it literally involves people doing the work. And I was so curious to hear what those principles that he had delineated were. But, I mean, I think you're right, Roland. I think every day we see people having to take up the charge to do the work. And I think his book is a really poignant example

of how we do that. Unfortunately, Randy, too many people have been sitting on the sidelines expecting others to do the work and thinking stuff is going to just magically change. Right. And I think everyone is looking for someone to lead them. Just as you said earlier about how we're looking

for an organization to join or someone to tell us what to do. And I really want people to be empowered that everyone can do something. even if it's by themselves, they can decide that they're going to help educate people about voting, or they're going to ensure that they can drive people to vote, or they are just going to, you know, I've been really thinking about building community and going back and just hosting dinners at my home on Sundays, where we get together and talk, and so people can feel as if, you know, they have a voice that's being listened to, and we can talk about action plans, but everyone has the power to do something.

And right now, it's very clear that we need everyone. Mustafa. Well, Ella Baker made sure to highlight for us that each and every one of us has leadership inside of us. We don't have to wait for some politician or some corporate leader or whoever it might be, that each and every one of us has not only a responsibility, but the gifts to be able to lead, to be able to make change happen. So we should make sure that we are continuing to follow the words of Ms. Ella, and others who have shared with us that we can get it done ourselves.

Well, to your point, the reason that was a conflict with Ella Baker and Dr. King, she believed in Pew to Pulpit. He believed in pulpit to Pew. And so that's how I think is also important because it was the people driving the agenda, not necessarily leadership telling folks what we're doing. It's the power of the people. Ella Baker always reminded us of that. And if you follow many of the grassroots leaders and others who I've worked with,

it has always been about the grassroots where many of the impacts are happening, but the opportunities also have to be a leading voice in the framing out of policy. That's one of the things I'm excited about reading Rashad's book, because real power, real change happens from the grassroots up. That does not mean that others are not critically important. process, but if it's not changing the lives of everyday folks, why are we doing it? And unfortunately, we have some folks who want all the attention, they want the glamour and the spotlight of leadership, but they don't want to do the hard work.

I want to stay right there on that particular point. It is not about the glamour or the attention. Unfortunately, when Cooney, we're living in this attention economy, where that's what it's all about, where real work is not about becoming. a celebrity. It's really not, Roland, and I think a lot of people have missed that with the advent of social media, I think it has given so many people a platform. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, right? I think it's great that people have platforms, but I think what the issue is that, fortunately, my generation, we don't see enough people really step into the forefront to really

lean into what leadership looks like. And I think it's because of bystander effect, right? Roland, and everybody thinks somebody else is going to do something about the problem, and thereby nobody ends up doing anything at all. So I think we have to recognize that with an opportunity, and with a platform comes power, and I really call more young people to really step up to the pulpit and really start to gather the people behind them. Randy, I remember when we were in Shreveport, Louisiana,

and it was after that brother had shot and killed seven of his kids and two of the women. and there was a young man who stepped up to the microphone, and he implored those on the panel to pass the baton. And he talked about his big social media follow. And what I said to him was, hey, why don't you organize and mobilize your followers, your people, younger folks? I said, and then when you've done that,

when you come back to the table, you actually don't have to ask to pass the baton. You have created something. Well, he then goes back and puts a video out criticizing me for what I said. And I said, but you're proving my point. All you are doing is just putting out videos. I said, I said, you need to understand becoming a leader is not just about clicks and views. It's literally about building something.

You're right. I mean, there's a responsibility that comes with when you do get attention because you're on social media. and you are putting out videos, which is a form of activism. Hopefully in your people's videos, they're educating people, they are motivating people. But at the same time, what is the next step? What are you doing to actually make change and showing other people how to make change? And I believe oftentimes people get lost in the fame and the intention of things. We see a lot of social media presence where they are now.

you know traveling and showing what they're doing as far as their personal lives which is also fine but have you lost your vision have you lost your goal and if your goal is to make changes within the black community then you have to keep your eye on that prize folks numerous times you heard me discuss on this show why it's important for us to pay attention to local races so much attention obviously is on the building two blocks and where I sit. The White House also a few blocks from Congress, state capitals, governors and mansions. But we also understand that all politics is also local.

And so we encourage people to focus on city council races, school board races, DA races, municipal judge races, as well as county races. Well, Harris County is about to go through a leadership change. Lena Hidalgo opted not to seek re-election. When the Democratic primary took place, my next guest actually beat the former mayor of Houston. Anise Parker with the Democratic nominee, but she's in a tough fight.

You've got significant forces in Harris County, where Houston is, that are conservative, who want to take back the county judge. And so my next guest is a dentist, an entrepreneur, also former member of the Houston City Council, Dr. Latisha Plummer, Glad to have you here. You're running against Republican Orlando Sanchez.

He's served as a county treasurer. He's run for mayor. He's run for any number of positions. And look, you have a Blue County, Republican in Austin, Texas, the state capital, hate that. They would love to capture the county judge position. What are you saying to people over the next? a little more than two months, how they have to, just what we're talking about, maximize their power if they want to see a Democrat maintain that county judge position in Harris County.

First of all, Roland, thank you for allowing me to be here with you today. And so listen, no matter who you are, what side of the fence you're on, religion or culture you are, everyone wants a couple of things. You know, Harris County, we are known for our disasters. We don't want to flood every time it rains. We want to live in a safe environment. We want a level of economic opportunity for everyone. We want safe, you know, good schools for us to go to.

And so I'm really driving that affordability message as well. Just trying to stay on the issues that really affect almost 5 million people within the county regardless of what side they're on. And so we're just driving that message that's really resonated. And I truly believe what got us to this win. You talk about that. obviously it is a diverse county, frankly, it is larger than some states. And so what do you see, you know, what are your three or four issues that you believe will resonate with voters in Harris County?

So the number one thing is disaster recovery, preparedness and resilience. We flood every single time it rains here. And so making sure that we're putting infrastructure dollars in communities that struggle the most. looking at social determinants is something that we're focusing on. The economic opportunities here. We spend billions of dollars in terms of procurement. Oftentimes, the same corporations or companies get the bids every single time. So looking at how do we make sure that small to mid-sized businesses actually have an opportunity. Our public health system, Texas is the highest uninsured, and we do have Harris Health here, which is great.

We have over a million people experience our 16 community centers and our hospitals here. ensuring that they stay funded consistently. And then we're looking at environmental justice challenges. We've got cancer clusters across the county. We have air quality issues that really allow a lot of our low-income communities to have challenges. And so looking at their environmental justice issues as well. And then obviously everyone talks about public safety. Public safety is a big deal.

It's an issue, but I want to look at root causes. Our county jail is overpopulated. 80% of our inmates have mental health challenges. It's looking at our county jail system and seeing how do we, ensure that nonviolent offenders actually have a chance and a shot to lower recantivism and in trying to see how we can support our mental health residents so they don't end up in the Harris County Jail system. You talk about that. What places are you studying? Are you looking at where they've had a drastic reduction? Are you looking at Baltimore and looking at Mayor Brandon Scott?

Have you tried to communicate with him to get an understanding of what his plan was to bring murders to a 50-year low and dramatically drop crime in Baltimore? Absolutely. As a matter of fact, we are teaming up with creating a task force that will help us look at best practices across the nation and bringing experts to the table because, you know, a lot of the Republicans want to build another jail. That's their plan.

And we know that that's not what we want to do here in Harris County. You know, we spend about $50 million outsourcing 1,500 approximately inmates to Mississippi and Louisiana. and I would like to create a workforce to justice program, or rather justice to workforce program. And I am looking at best practices across the nation to see how we can lower sentivism and give those nonviolent offenders an opportunity to have a chance to take care of their families in the future. You talked about contracts as a relation to African Americans. What does Harris County currently stand?

Very low. As a matter of fact, the African Americans are almost the lowest in terms of their involvement with large county contracts. And a lot of that's capacity building, Roland. We don't do a really good job making sure there are mid-sized to small businesses are actually a part of the conversation. Oftentimes, you know, because there is a percentage that you have to use MWBE programs, oftentimes they'll get on the contract and they'll never get a job. And they just kind of sit on the line on that. And so really looking at procurement is something that I want to do.

When I was at the city of Houston, we used what was called co-ops, which large big box entities that will allow that get the bids. and then, you know, then they obviously have lower price. We've got to be careful about that because obviously, you know, oftentimes that really boxes out those small to mid-sized folks. And so I was able to do a carve-out at the city of Houston to allow our big box folks engage with our small to mid-sized businesses to be a part of the conversation. I want to do the same thing we get to the county. And I also put a rotation in place, whereas every single time a contract was, was one, you rotated out of the process, which allows another person, another company,

to be able to be a prime on that and then bring someone up. And so, you know, we spend billions of dollars in terms of procurement at the county, and oftentimes the same folks get the same jobs every single time. Well, again, that definitely is a way to actually build and grow capacity. Mustafa, your question. Dr. Palmer is good to see you. Thank you for raising environmental justice also. At the end of, let's say you win the election,

And at the end of your term, what changes will have happened in Harris County? What will be different? What will it look like differently? So much. Number one, our jail is going to look completely different. We're going to lower recidivism. We're going to handle the mental health crisis that we are experiencing Harris County, you know, really, really head on.

So you're going to see that difference there. Environmental Justice is obviously a big conversation I have. I was able to drive down $1.5 million, working with nonprofit entities and cancer. clusters in Fifth Ward, I want to expand that and really look at the whole entire county. How do we work with TCEQ? You know, how do we look at permitting? How do we make sure that we hold these large industries accountable that are really focused and are in our low-income community?

So that's going to look way different. We're going to see another hospital in our East End area, in our unincorporated, two million people, unincorporated East Harris County. You're going to see a medical facility there that will allow us to take. take care of the folks that live in those unincorporated areas. And you are going to see a procurement department that looks completely different. It's going to be equitable and fair and you're going to see a rotation of building capacity. And then, you know, then finally, we are going to deal with disaster recovery and resilience in a way different way.

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and so it's going to look way different in four years. It may not have, it's definitely not going to happen overnight. But you know, I'm not really a politician by trade. I'm a doctor by trade, which means I heal people every single day. And we're going to heal these communities and make sure they were able to thrive. Randy? Dr. Plummer, what made you, what inspired you to say, I want to serve in this way? I want to serve my area in this way.

You know, thank you so much for that question. You know, I sat on City Council, did a group. great job, checked all the boxes. I felt like we had accomplished the goal. And then I heard Amos Parker was the only one in the race. And I just in my heart in my mind, I could not imagine how we didn't have an option. I always teach my boys up three sons. I teach my boys all the time. The best thing is to have options because you're not boxed in and making decisions. And so that's what we did. We brought a different option to Harris County voters. And we did it. We were outnumbered. We were outpolled. We were out raised, out named in every way. But our, our, our, our,

message resonated. And I'm just so honored and humbled, honestly, to be able to be the first African-American to ever hold this seat. And just excited to be able to help my community. Well, when, Coney? Thank you for that, Dr. Plummer. I love the notion of having options. And as you mentioned, health care has been at the center of your career. I'm curious about what lessons from the health care field have most influenced your work in public office. Yes, so I use it all the time. So as a doctor, I have to first listen to my patient.

My patient will always tell me what the problem is way before I look at any data. Then I look at the diagnostics. I look at my x-rays. I diagnose the problem from my scientific perspective. And then I ask the patient, I tell the patient, these are our options. What do you want to do? These are pros and the cons. And we bring specials in to have that conversation and make sure we give them all the information

that they need. Then they decide. They've got that level of autonomy and authority to decide on how they want to be handled and that we execute and heal. I do the exact same thing in politics. It's no different. And I think what we don't do as elected leaders is we don't listen enough. We just have to be quiet long enough to listen because our community has all of the answers. And I think that's really where it starts. And so I use that same type of platform or structure in making my decisions every single day. It's got us great wins at City Council and it's going to get us great wins at

Harris County. Money obviously is important. And so how is fun? fundraising going? Yeah, fundraise is good. I mean, you know, I will tell you, Roland, you know, we're never going to raise as much as Republicans, but I was outraised 10 to 1 in this race. And so, yes, money is important, but people are more. And that's what we approved in this race. We have got people that are ready to go.

I think over 400 people have already signed up to volunteer on our campaign. And I will continue to fundraise, doing our call time and driving those dollars in to make sure that we can do all the things that we need to let people know who I am, what I stand for and why I'm asking, um, humbly asking them for their support. And so, yes, it's coming in. It's, um, you know, fundraising is tough right now. It's a summer.

Everyone's on holidays, but it is consistent. People are having fundraisers over and over and over again for me. Call time is doing great. So we're excited about this. Um, I just had Rashad Robertson on. Uh, and he was talking about his book, uh, from presence to power, uh, how to take on the fights that matter and when. as you are traveling around Harris County.

I'm quite sure you're hearing people say, you know what? I don't believe I can make a difference. What do you say to those folks who have checked out of a process in terms of not voting, especially African Americans? You know, I tell them that everything is political, and I know that oftentimes they think that voting is the political answer, but everything in the life,

they're dealing with their kids is political, doing with their businesses is political, you have to find a way to advocate for yourself. And we do that really well, and we're just engaging people. But I'll tell you, Roland, the reason why people are disengaged is because they don't believe in the process anymore. You know, politicians say they're going to do something. You only see them when it's time to go vote. They don't show up any other time.

They make all these campaign promises, and there's zero execution at the end. And that's what we're trying to do, is that look what I did, look at my record, look what I did at city council, look at what we were able to achieve, trust the process. trust the process. I'm just trying to bring hope back to these communities, but we have to show it. We have to show it. And I'm taking that very seriously because, you know, voter apathy is going to increase if we don't actually do what we're going to say. And that's what my promise is to them. And we're just trying to just get them engaged and tell them we have to. People fought so hard for the opportunity to vote. We just can't let it not be something that we're focused on doing um technology is obviously critically important um and you know i'm constantly saying to folk uh that

when you when you are talking to uh the room um you actually are speaking to four more people uh so you're not just talking to the room when you're streaming how are using technology to drive your messaging because obviously ads were expensive and so um what is happening there because somebody may say hey, I couldn't come to your town hall, but is your team? Are y'all streaming those events? How are you driving social to reach low propensity voters? Do you have a strong digital campaign with TikTok and Instagram and Facebook and all the other social media platforms? We do. We do. We have an amazing team. And we're using the voting data to be able to drive that conversation. So it's incredibly targeted. One good thing about Texas is.

that we all do research, we knock doors, and we make phone calls, and all that goes into one database. And so we're using that. It's called VAN, and we use that system to make sure that we're touching people consistently and letting them know. I'm also everywhere. Every town hall is not only virtual, but it's also in person. So they can come personally meet me, but they can also, you know, watch and stream online. We've got people and influencers sharing our information all the time. We are definitely using our social media aspects to get to folks. But the other thing, too, is that, you know, we've got five million people, average age is about 37. We also have to talk about older voters, and older voters are churches, and they're at Bible studies.

And so we have to join, we have to meet people where they are. Many people live in unincorporated areas, and the county is massive. So I've got to go to those different neighborhoods and go to their civic club meetings and super neighborhoods and all of those things. So I am really busy. This is not anything that we're taking lightly, but we are using every single avenue to touch all of our voters. to make sure they know who I am and what we stand for. You talked about it being massive. People really don't understand how large Harris County is.

When you talk about running for statewide, I mean, listen, you're covering in 254 counties. You know, this, again, as I said, this one county population-wise is larger than several states. 24, to be exact. It's almost 5 million people and 2 million of them live in the unincorporated areas. It is massive. It is massive. But I will tell you this. I ran citywide for city-courge.

council. And so Houston, just Houston proper itself is large. And so, you know, it being large isn't such a, such a big deal to me. It's really touching people that didn't know who I was as a council member and really just getting my name idea up. And so a lot of effort, a lot of creativity, but our message is resonating. And so, and then we're building our surrogate base and we'll have surrogates. I'll be able to go to meetings and really speak on our behalf. And so I can't do this by myself. This has got to be a collective effort, collaborating with the Texas Democratic Party, with Harris County Democratic Party as well. And so really kind of doing coordinated campaigns, working with our down ballot candidates as well, top of the ticket, obviously, Tala Rico and Hinojosa.

So we are looking at this from a broad scale, but we're drilling down to. People got me here, and I'm never going to forget that. And those are the ones that are going to move the ground. enough to make sure we win. Obviously, when you look at the demographics, the reality is Harris County is a majority minority districts. Some 46% Latino, 20% African American, almost 25% white. And so this also is about part of coalition building. It absolutely is. And one thing that I love about my background is, you know, my mother is Arab and Yemeni and my dad is black American. So I really do understand kind of the cross culture that we experience in Harris County. And I think that's kind of one. one of my superpowers to be honest.

I'll tell you, you know, 79% of African Americans did not vote in the midterm in that March primary. And so we've got a base of vote. Hold on, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want you to go past that. Give that number again. Yeah.

Yes, 79% of black voters did not vote in the March primary. In terms of Harris County. In Harris County. And so this, the reason I want you to repeat that, because when I was trying to explain to people, people, Congresswoman Jasmine Jasmine Crockett, and what happened there, she needed massive turnout in Harris County to win. Folks, folks simply, you know, folks did not vote.

And people are like, I'm not understanding, I'm like, because you have to look at the actual numbers. Go right ahead. Yeah, so there are people, Roland, that we just need to touch again. And these are folks that voted for Kamala, right? We just got to bring them back. And so we've got very targeted messaging to folks and trying to to understand, you know, what is it? What is it about what made you stay home in this March primary? And there are opportunities there. And I love that. And so we're going to bring,

we're going to, we're going to ignite our base. We're going to talk to every voter across the county. But we really have to figure out how we can increase our black voter turnout. And not just for me, but for our down ballots. I mean, we've got some great down ballot candidates that could just do amazing things in Harris County. And so that's my job. I've got to deliver Harris County. And a lot of folks don't really realize that. But to win Texas, you have to win Harris County.

There are no options. And so I'm taking that job very same. You mean as a Democrat, obviously, Republicans do well in Texas. But yeah, if you don't win Harris County, you ain't winning nothing. You're done. Nothing.

It all stops here. Everything stops in Harris County. And so, and so, you know, I really do believe that it's a big charge, but it's something I'm taking seriously. And we're going to do everything we can to make sure that my Don Ballot folks have an opportunity to represent Harris County. Well, I've not decided whether we're going to be in the state in September or October. But I'm sure we're crossing paths as we broadcast from the Lone Star State leading to the midterm elections. I would love that. Thank you so much. All right.

I appreciate it. Letitia Plummer, good luck. Thanks a lot. Thank you, sir, for having me. All right, folks, got to go to a break. We'll be back. Roll the Mark Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Don't forget, support the work that we do. Join our Brain and the Funk fan club.

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So an appeals court actually spoke up about this. And give me one second. I want to pull this up. And so this was posted earlier today. And the laws for voters, the D.C. Circuit affirmed a lower court ruling, upholding parts of Donald Trump's executive order targeting mail voting, including allowing DHS to build a citizenship registry, the USPS to withhold mail ballots from states

that don't share voter data with the government. Now, on Monday, the Department of Justice asked the Supreme Court to free several lower court rulings that blocked Trump's March executive order from taking effect while the administration appeals. The executive order would only allow states to deliver mail-in ballots, again, to federal people and federal citizenship list

or eligible voters. The postal service could deny delivery of mail-in ballots, and federal funding could be withheld from states that don't comply with the new rules. In a statement, Solicitor General of the United States, D. John Sauer said, quote, and the injunction is especially indefensible because the agencies are still deliberating over how, if at all, to implement the order. Yet the district court preemptively decided that whatever the agencies may choose to do will necessarily be unlawful.

The administration is asking the court to approve this request quickly so that the new policies can take effect in time for the midterm elections. The reality here, Mustafa, it's not enough time. And you've heard Senator Tom Tillis and others say that. But again, what Donald Trump and MAGA is trying to do. We'll talk about rigging elections. This is rigging elections. Yeah, this is major voter suppression.

This is rigging elections. This is making sure that, you know, less people have the opportunity to fully participate. You know, I think, you know, what was it, over 150 million people voted in 2020. for a third of those were actually people who utilize mail in ballots because it's more convenient for a whole lot of folks. You know, there are elders who can't get out and want to make sure that they're still be able to be able to participate. There are others who are working and can't participate. So once again, this is literally taking away the opportunity for people who, whether the Democrats, Republicans, or independents, you know, from all kinds of communities, the ability

to fully participate in the civic process. And it just, you know, it is part for the course, once again for this administration, who knows that their policies are whack. They know that their policies are not something that the vast majority of Americans are interested in because they see that they're living under much harsher conditions. So once again, they try and do whatever they can

to lower the amount of people who want to vote so they can at least be competitive in the next election. The thing here, Winconi, that we have to really pay attention to, that's again, this is about theft. This is about limiting folk who vote. You've got some states like Oregon and Colorado, especially Oregon, Washington State, I'm sorry, where all voting takes place by mail. You on mute?

Yes, Roland. This is infuriating, but unfortunately not surprising. We've seen this administration time and time again try to stymie the votes of particularly black and brown voters, right? But mail-in voting is no different. Trump wants to limit mail-in voting, even though this is predominantly how he's. he's been able to cast his own votes. As Mustafa stated, 30% of ballots have been cast that way in the 2024 election. And so it makes sense to think that that, at least that percentage would use them again.

And let's really think about it. When we think about voter disenfranchisement, when you take away something like mail-in voting. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Hello. My gosh. Watch all your favorite podcasts from start to finish, right inside the free I-Hurt Radio app. Gets the blood going up.

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It also reduces election day congestion for people who actually want to go in and cast a ballot in person, which is fine. Some people love to do that, but it reduces election day congestion for people who are going to be. be able, who can't do that, right? Provides flexibility, allows ballot tracking. There's so many pros to mail-in voting. So it makes sense that, of course, our fascist in chief would want to get rid of it. Randy? It is so infuriating because all of this is based on a lie.

He has pushed this narrative that there is fraud involved in mail-in voting, and every research has shown that that is simply not true. But he gets away with these lies because people don't do the research. says something and people believe it. And so it's so disgusting that his agenda is being pushed forward on nothing but lies. You know, this will affect so many people. And it's the people, like even the people who serve in the military. How do they expect them, how does he expect them to vote when they are overseas serving our country? In all ways, it cuts off what we consider

a democracy. A democracy should make voting the easiest thing that we do because we want everybody to participate. But someone who has to steal an election doesn't. All right, folks. So let's talk about this nutcase in the White House. During Monday's General Motors tour in Milford, Michigan, the twice impeach, criminally convicted kind of chief Donald Trump literally said something that was beyond stupid. Y'all, Michigan has been hit hard by his tariffs, particularly the automobile industry. Yet this dumbass claimed he, historic tariffs are reinvigorating. You know what?

I don't know why I'm reading all this. Just play it. I'll just fence at the back. I mean, this was really reading from a design perspective. They've come a long way. It's amazing what tariffs will do for General Motors and what the election has done. They're doing great. General Motors is doing fantastically.

The best year they've ever had. And I won't get into it, but there's a reason. We've been very good to General Motors. The rest of the world doesn't love me, but that's okay. It's called America First. Right. That's been amazing. Does anybody know Margo?

Like, how well do you know Margo? Y'all, that's General Motors CEO of Mary Barra. When Cooner is she know better? They've had slow job growth in Michigan. General Motors has lost more than $3 billion due to tariffs. They pretty much gutted their electric vehicles. their electric vehicle fleet because of Trump's hatred for EVs also impacting the bottom line. Every GM executive standing there knew his ass was lying.

That's why they had that look on their face, Roland. I mean, it's the same look any of us would have on our face. They're flabbergasted. I mean, the scary thing is people continue to allow him to come to their businesses and make a fool out of them because it really looks crazy. but let's get into the facts, like you said. We know that not only his tariffs have affected Michigan, but he's continued to tariff Canada right next door, who got so pissed off that they canceled the joint celebration that they were planning to have in conjunction with Michigan,

and they've continued to find issue with Trump's policies. And I think the one person who had it right was Curtis Hurdle, the chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, when he said, he's happy the president's here, campaigned, campaigning with the Republicans because it shows that the Republicans actually don't want to do anything but, you know, continue to kiss up to him and they don't want to stand up for him. And he's terribly unpopular. I think Curtis is the only one who had it right.

And unfortunately, he continued to make a charade out of himself at General Motors. It's a shame they let him do so. We're talking a state that right across the river there, Mustafa, is Canada. Significant trade with that country who Donald Trump has been attacking. Tariffs have absolutely wrecked the American economy. Oh, without a doubt. I grew up, you know, a part of my youth was in Detroit. So I have family who worked in the auto industry, still work in the auto industry, and used to go across the bridge to Windsor. So, I mean, I know both sides of that bridge well. You know, the tariffs have not been helpful to our country. Yes, there's been impacts to Canada,

He's talking about 50% tariffs once again in relationship to some of the products that are coming across from Canada. You know, as was stated as well, these tariffs have also had huge impacts on the auto industry. We've lost 20,000 jobs in the auto industry over the last two years. Let me say that again, 20,000 good, hard-earned money working positions have been lost over the last two years, thanks to the policies that this administration has moved forward on. And then you talked about the electric vehicles, you know, the vehicles of the future that actually help to make sure that folks breathe cleaner air, get better mileage for the charge. But he did not see value in that because he's so tied to the fossil fuel industry. So they continue to do all these missteps that one impact the economy, impact people's health, and then people stand beside him and smile.

I understand. You know, I've been out on, you know, and visiting with presidents at different locations and other leaders of. of federal agencies, but at the same time, there comes a point when you have to push back. You can do it respectfully. You can have signage there that tells the truth about what's actually going on, but we continue to allow this misinformation and disinformation that hurts our country. It's significantly going to hurt our country based upon the partnerships that we've had with folks who have been allies before, but it is really hurting the pocketbooks of everyday

Americans because now we're not making the money, the wealth gap is growing, and then, of course, people can't even get health care because he can't afford to go. So these are the things that are coming out of his tariffs. There have been nothing positive that have come out of the tariffs. And history has told us you have to be very selective of how you use tariffs. You do not put these broad-stroke tariffs in place because there are many, many impacts that will happen. But he continues to give these false narratives, continues to put veneers over things, and continues to hurt our country. Randy?

There is not one economist that says, these terrors have worked. But again, he is allowed to just keep pushing on. And it makes me literally nauseous that no one speaks up. No one seems to stop them. I have been shocked at the fragility of people, these people that we consider leaders. That GM would sit there and smile and have him there. It's disgusting to me. And I'm also struck, it takes a special kind of jacked up person, president, to ruin our relationship with Canada. Do you know how hard that was to do? But he did it. He found a way where we have no good relations, it seems, with almost anybody because he's such a disgusting creature that the entire world knows exactly what we know and talk about. But the people around him continue to just treat him like a petulant child and allow him to get away with doing whatever he wants to do.

And it impacts people every single day. Again, what you talk about, people losing their jobs. And when someone loses their jobs, we know that affects families. that affects schools, that affects the entire county and country. And so it's just sad that they're allowing this madman to run around and do what he wants to do, even when it has proven to be destructive to our economy and to our country. Well, that is absolutely case. And so I don't know what the hell these people are sitting here doing.

All right, let me go to break. When we come back to Skigi, boy, they've got people riled up regarding their new dress code. They said du rags, bonnets, and house slippers. Don't bring that bullshit on campus. We'll discuss next right here on Roland Martin unfiltered on the Blackstone Network. All right, folks, let me get personal for a second. My mom had questions about her Medicare, so she called Chapter, a Medicare advisory company, and she texts me right after saying it's a great benefit.

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President Dr. Mark A. Brown sent on a welcome letter to students outlined the new policy and behavioral standards for the academic school year. Dear's Tuskegee University students, we're excited to welcome you to Tuskegee University next month as you are arriving at an extraordinary time in the university's history. Tuskegee has entered its Renaissance era of transformation and renewal and we are expecting a 32 year new, a 32 year new student. enrollment high in August.

Tuskegee is focused on challenging you academically with resources to ensure graduation while preparing you for the workplace. You're required to find internships in their area of interest, identify certifications, to enhance professional skills and develop a resume. There are more than 30 certifications you can get at Tuskegee at no additional cost. You must also visit the University Career Center in Kenny Hall. It is there where you'll be able to connect with potential employers, internships and learn more about career opportunities long before your senior year.

You cannot wait until you are a senior to focus on your career options. The university has developed a new policy for student attire on campus, classroom attendance, and cell phone use in classrooms. Tuskia students now have a dress code for public and professional places. The student handbook requires students to arrive on campus with a business suit and proper shoes for a business meeting. Students are prohibited from wearing revealing clothing in class to the cafeteria or in official settings like convocation. They're also not able to wear bedroom shoes, bonnets,

or du racks to class or the cafeteria. Faculty will be empowered to respond to students who are inappropriately dressed based on these guidelines. Faculty will also be able to respond to a different classroom challenge, cell phones. Unless directed by the professor, students are no longer allowed to use their cell phones while in class. They should be turned off to eliminate any distraction from the instructor's lesson. We are attaching the attendance policy to minimize any confusion around attendance. Students are required to go to class.

That is the heart of all academic success, and we track attendance. The goal here is not meant to restrict you from enjoying the Tuskegee experience, but to prepare you with a solid foundation for the workforce you will enter once you leave Tuskegee. Employers are less forgiving and too often presentation may overrule

stellar preparation. Tuskegee University continues to prepare the best and brightest for a lifetime of success. With these changes, we want to ensure every student is as prepared as they can be. I look forward to seeing you in August. We reached out to Tuskegee University to have the president or representative on, but they were unavailable. We definitely want to have them on very soon. Now, this, of course, as usual, when you factor in threads, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and everything, Facebook. book and everything else explodes into a social media conversation now it's about

respectability politics it's about being anti-black conscious Lee said to Skigi passed a horrible policy as somebody with a master's in adult higher education policing how students show up the class will never lead to high higher class attendance and does not lead to higher graduation rates okay which means dress for success is a claim based in fallacy he's another post from no slino Dress for success has the same underlying tone as Massa coming to be. It just sounds coonish like why are you associating success with looks? Key Pee and two or two.

What about Yamakas, uh, kufi's and Eija, uh, I'm not reading the rest of these. Let me get to the panel. Randy, you're a Tuskegee graduate. I, I, I, I, here's my problem. Okay. They didn't link a dress code to attendance. The memo addressed attendance. Here's the other thing.

They did not say it, tell me if I'm wrong, I did not hear bonnets are banned from campus. I did not hear that house shoes are banned from campus. I did hear that du rags are banned from campus. What I read was you can't wear them to class or the cafeteria. What the hell is the problem? There should be no problem. As a Tuskegee graduate, a proud Tuskegee graduate,

I was there from 88 to 92. I was very pleased to see the changes that were happening. And of course, this is an overall change. They're not just talking about, you know, everyone's focusing on du rags and bonnets, where they also are talking about just a renaissance and changing things and improving what's happening at the university, which is what you want your leaders to do.

That's what you would want to happen at any corporation or a higher institution, where you look at it and say, how can we improve? So I'm sure the phones were disruptive to people's learning. I'm sure people coming to class who are scantily dressed could be distracting to higher learning. How do we get people to feel?

You can't learn if you're not attending classes. So it was an overall restructuring and a set of rules. And it's unfortunate that the only thing that they're focusing on and all this brouhaha is over bonnets and du racks. When you think about it, my mother sent me to school to be. Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are out of them. And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast. I'm Jennifer Stewart.

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She knew she wasn't going to take care of me later. I don't know a job right now, whether it be wrong or right, where I am allowed to wear a du rag or a bonnet. Now, people have been saying, oh, what if you work for home? Well, if you work from home, that's fine. But Tuskegee's job is to prepare me to work anywhere, to become employable, or at least go to another school to get another degree. There's always been a code of conduct anywhere you go.

And so why are you sending your child to Tuskegee or why are you going to Tuskegee if you're not willing to learn and to rise to certain standards? You know, I was thinking about many years ago, I had a meeting at a major tech company. And we were talking about, you know, DEI. And the woman shared with me, she said, I really wish, I should I meet, as a sister, should I meet a lot of brilliant black candidates, but it's almost as if they need a finishing school. Because sometimes, because of our state in this country,

these are first time people who are attending college, or no one has taught us how to write a resume, which is a part of the new program that Tuskegee, the new Renaissance that they are implementing, how to address what it means to show up on time that it's actually 15 minutes early. So attendance is important. They haven't learned those things.

So while, yes, these people may be brilliant, they have earned a degree, they don't know some of the things that you need to know to make it in corporate America. They don't know the rules. So what Tuskegee is saying is they're taking on their responsibility in saying, we're going to teach these children and prepare them for the workplace. We're going to set a standard, which I don't know where else they don't do that. And I just want to say one more thing. Well, I've heard two things.

One, people have said, well, I'm paying for my education, so I should be able to wear what I want to wear. And I'm saying, when you pay for your meal in a restaurant, it doesn't mean you can wear a bikini and show up. And secondly, what people are saying is that at white schools, they don't police your hair, your bonnics or duwrecks. And I don't believe white schools are even thinking about how to prepare our students to function

in a white racist society. How do we prepare our students, our black students, to be able to excel in this world as it is? They're not trying to liberate you. It's not because they want you to have more freedom, is that they're completely ambivalent to you and toward our cause. Okay.

When, Coney, here's what really bothers me. Folk, I'm automatically jump to, oh, this anti-black. First, Arbondi, it's only a black thing. Duwrags, house slippers. Man, I went to Texas A&M.

You know what? I couldn't stand the worst. Goddamn loud-ass-thonged slippers and sitting here and all you hearin is popping when somebody's walking in class. It's like it's smacking. I just, I sit here and I'm just like,

yo, what are we doing? Like, what the hell are we doing? All of these people are commenting on duwags, bonnets, and slippers, but they ain't got nothing to say about requiring them to have internships and get certifications. I'm just sitting here going, really? Really? Are we tripped? Really?

And you come to class? Like, that's a problem? saying, hey, yo, you can't, they didn't say you can't wear cargo shorts. They didn't say, oh, you must have, like, a country club a collared shirt. I'll go ahead. So, Randy, I didn't go to Tuskegee.

I went to Howard, and we got our own stuff to deal with right now, but what I will say on Tuskegee right now is that I don't see any problem with what Dr. Brown is implemented. And I got to say this as like the resident young person on the panel right now that I guess this is going to get people in a tizzy, but I do think that young black students need to embody rigor not only in how they show up for class and how they dress. How I was taught in my home was how you show up indicates a lot about how a the teacher is going to treat you, B, how your classmates are going to receive you, and

be what position and posture you're into learn, right? So if I show up in the thing that I went to sleep with, because we're not only talking about du rags and bonds, It's right. We're also talking about house slippers. If I show up to school in my pajamas, am I equipped to learn that day? Realistically, the answer is no. I'm still asleep. I haven't showered. I haven't brushed my teeth. I haven't really started my day. I haven't activated myself. Let's also talk about decorum in terms of honoring our professors. You know, one of the things I love is being on here with Dr. Carr sometimes because that was my professor at Howard University. Do you know how much of an honor that is, sometimes to share the stage with him?

I came from a tradition that we used to honor our elders, right? I would not show up and hug and kiss my grandmother with a bonnet or du rag on because I'm in the presence of someone that I consider an elder, right? So I'm in class with someone who's taking their time out to really dedicate themselves to the education of young black students. And I can't get dressed in a way that's considered redeemed appropriate. What am I really doing there, right? I think what Tuskegee University is trying to do is continue their tradition of excellence that was started by their founder, W.B. Du Bois. And if we really think about where, you know, what the policies that and the philosophies

that Du Bois embodied, this is not too far from it, right? All we're asking here, it's not about respectability politics. It's about how young and black boys and black girls are going to show up in the world and how they're going to be received. We already know Roland that we have to be twice as good. How are we going to be able to do that if we're not stepping up to the plate in terms of how we're showing up in the classroom? That starts with the outside and that starts with how we look when we show up to learn. So we really have to make sure that we're understanding the importance of this. It's not only about what the student looks like, but it's about their mind posture,

in their heart posture when they step in the classroom. And I just don't believe that it can be in the right space when you're not really dressed like you got up from sleep. So I really think we've got to think about that and evaluate that. But I know this is going to cause tensions within the black community. But I say let it because we have to get back to our standard of black excellence. Mustafa, this is the Virginia Union University dress code. The items below provide an overview of.

items prohibited by the VAU dress code but not limited to except in the residence halls and at designated university activities and events on and off campus pajamas bathrooms bras, lingerie and boxers shorts worn in public spaces and or as outerwear except in the residence halls bedroom slippers except in the residence halls pants worn in a baggy fashion mid hip with undergarments revealed undershirts wife beaters without a top shirt except in the residence halls, appearing in public spaces without a shirt, top, or blouse except in the residence halls, du rags, head rags, scars, and bonnets for men and women, except in the residence halls, caps and hats for men and women worn inside of buildings, except for

the residence halls or with permission from an administrator. Curlers, rollers, and other items used to groom hair, except in the residence halls. shirts worn as head. wraps except in the residence halls, hoodies with hoods over the head while inside a building, micro mini skirts, mid-drift shirts, see-through blouses, low-cut blouses, and or other such attire that revealed excessive cleavage in classroom buildings. Clothing, jewelry, hats, and other garments and or other accessories without obscene or offensive language, gestures, and or profanity, or the display allude to drugs, drug paraphernalia, and other legal substances. Students are expected to use good judgment in determining what to wear at a special

events. Examples of special events are new student orientation activities, fall convocation, Founders Day, Career Fairs, on-campus interviews, honors programs, and convocation. The attire for these events is outlined below. Dress pants, no jeans, business suit, dress shoes, shirt, tie, and dress shoes. Professional skirt, blouses, dress or two-piece suit, skirt or pants, and dress shoes. Students requesting special permission for head attire due to religious affiliation should give notice to the dean of students' office. They're setting expectations, right?

You know, instead of having the bare minimum, they're saying this is how we are going to show up on that particular campus. You know, my grandfather was a farmer and a cold. coal miner. And there was many times when, you know, he had the coal dust on him or he had dirt on him, but as soon as he could get that off of him, he made sure that he was always sharp. He was sharp because he had an expectation for our family and for himself that we would be honored and that we, he always pumped into us that we were special. And with that specialness, it was just the expectation that we were going to not only show up a certain way, but we were going to also make sure that we were well prepare. And I see so many of my folks who I love dearly not understand how truly special they are.

And with those folks who often talk about oppressors and colonizers, which is a real conversation, if you actually understood history, you would understand that when we presented ourselves in a certain way, when we dressed in a certain way, that's when they would call us uppity. That's when they would try and knock us down a peg. And they no longer have to do that in many instances now because we do it ourselves. We go to the lowest common denominator in the way that we present ourselves and then wonder why. You know, we're not exceeding in the way that we need to. Yes, there are policies.

Yes, there have been sets of actions that are out there. But we also have to make sure that we are preparing ourselves to be able to navigate all those things, to be able to get over the hurdles. And one of those is how we show up. So you have a right. But if you choose to go to an institution and they share with you what they're saying, set of expectations are, if you don't want to go to Tuskegee, you don't have to go to Tuskegee. You can go someplace else that might have a lower set of expectations, but you're also

missing out on the opportunity to go to a historic institution, and they should have a set of values. They should have a set of expectations because they are trying to prepare you to be as amazing as you possibly can be and to be able to navigate this world that when you step outside of those doors, you're going to have to deal with. This is Hampton's dress coat. Examples of inappropriate dress and or appearance. Durag, stocking caps, skull caps, and bandanas prohibited at all times on the campus of Hampton University

except in the privacy of the student's living quarters. Head coverings and hoods for men in any building. Baseball caps in hoods for women in any building. This policy does not apply to head gear considered as part of a religious or cultural dress. Bare feet, shorts that reveal buttocks, shorts, all types of jeans and programs dictating professional or formal attire, such as musical arts, fall convocation, Founders Day in commencement, clothing with derogatory, offensive, and or lewd messages either in words or pictures. Men's undershirts of any color worn outside of the private living quarters of the residence hall, sports jerseys without a conventional t-shirt underneath.

Men and women's pants that show underwear. They lay it out right here. And I guess just, I guess what drives me crazy, and you y'all can jump in, what drives me crazy is when

we resort to, oh, that's white folks. Oh, that's white folks. Oh, you try to do the work of mass. That's the part that's angry me the most is because people act as if it reminds me when people would say you're speaking, you're talking white because you're using proper grammar. And I'm like, why would you give white people that much credit as if we're the only, like we can't speak proper English? Everything black doesn't have to be

associated with something negative. To me, one of the things I've loved about us as a people is that we take pride in how we look. You know, I told a story about on Sunday mornings when I would, you know, all the grandchildren, my grandmother and grandfather would take us all to church, all their grandchildren, all the cousins, and we'd be dressed to the nines. And it was about black people gathering. And we weren't dressing for white people. There wasn't a white person in sight. But we took so much pride in how we looked. And even those of us who did not even have the money to buy something fancy, they would iron their clothes so well to ensure they looked as sharp as they possibly could. And it was a sense of pride.

Even now when we go around, black people always stand out because of how well we dress. We take pride in it. And we have actually talked poorly about unmelanated people, how they will wear the pajama pants and the sloppy ponytails and don't seem to care about how they look. Part of blackness has always been pride in your presentation. And to say that it's anti-black to say you should not wear something that you typically sleep in outdoors is absolutely the opposite. It's black pride, it's blackness, it's loving ourselves to say, I want us to represent

ourselves well when we're with each other. Because what do they think Tuskegee is but a campus full? I was there of black students with black professors who are sacrificing themselves. They're not there for the money. They're there for the purpose. To be there to teach us, to teach a generation, to make the black community even stronger. And we should take pride in how we look and go to class. And it's business.

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